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unidentified		The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		because there's a war on for your mind years ago you did a measure black and some of the best corporate fraud investigator one of the top investigators of after that heating cracks and others yes and i'll send they got memos or they were talking about we want him dead and things like that
		Now the Ponzi schemes are even larger and more dangerous and he has a lot of courage to be doing what he's doing.
		But I wanted to play a little clip from Bill Moyers because to see this on national television, not just on our local TV show or on a syndicated radio, I mean that's big to have Mr. Black on with us now talking about this, but to have it on Bill Moyers caused a huge buzz and people really started realizing what we were facing.
		Here's a quick clip.
unidentified		...than Bill Black, the former director of the Institute for Fraud Prevention, now teaches economics and law at the University of Missouri, Kansas City.
		During the savings and loan crisis, it was Black who accused then House Speaker Jim Wright and five U.S.
		Senators, including John Glenn and John McCain, of doing favors for the SNLs in exchange for contributions and other perks.
		The Senators got off with a slap on the wrist, but so enraged was one of those bankers, Charles Keating, after whom the Senate's so-called Keating Five were named, he sent a memo that read in part, get black, kill him dead.
		Metaphorically, of course.
		Of course.
		Now he's focused on an even greater scandal, and he spares no one, not even the president he worked hard to elect, Barack Obama.
		But his main target are the Wall Street barons who are heirs of an earlier generation whose scandalous rip-offs of wealth back in the 1930s earned them comparison to Al Capone and the mob, and the nickname, Banksters.
		Bill Black, welcome to the Journal.
		Thank you.
		I was taken with your candor at the conference here in New York to hear you say... Yes, we were taken with it as well.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		...that this economic and financial meltdown... We were taken with it as well, and that's why we're going to go to Mr. Black right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Black, good to have you on with us.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you've got the floor for the rest of the hour and I don't want to take much more time than that because I want you to be able to complete the interview that you've been gracious enough to do with us there in your offices.
		But my big issue that I'd like you to speak about first is The same crew, the same ideas have built Ponzi schemes many orders larger and instead of even getting in trouble, they're being seen as our saviors and offering even bigger Ponzi schemes as their solution.
		So, is this leading us to rack and ruin?
william black ▲ ● ▼		It has already led us to there.
william black ▲ ● ▼		But you're right, unless we remove this ideology and these folks from power, They will produce recurrent, intensifying crises.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In layman's terms, what are we currently facing?
		Who's guilty?
		How do we stop it?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, in layman's terms, the FBI began publicly warning in September 2004 that there was an epidemic, their word, of mortgage fraud.
		And they said, if this epidemic is not stopped, it will produce an economic crisis at least as large as the savings and loan debacle.
		And then they said, but of course, we've learned the lessons from the savings and loan debacle, and we'll be all over this one, so it won't cause those problems.
		Well, you know, they were right about the first two things.
		Obviously, they weren't even close to right about the third.
		The FBI has said something else immensely important.
		And that is that 80% of the mortgage fraud is induced by the lenders.
		So think about that in terms of, you know, taxpayer revolts and things like that.
		You shouldn't be focusing on the individual borrowers as much, at least, as you should be focusing on the big CEOs of these specialty places that, as you said, ran Ponzi schemes.
		In order to get extraordinarily rich through their bonus compensation systems.
		And then, you know, in many cases walk away, and in other cases remain there, still in control, and being subsidized by all of us as taxpayers right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, you know, you talk about this being engineered fraud, or the term you use is this control fraud.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Break that down, and then let's get specifically into the fraud we're witnessing right now.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Control fraud is simply a term for what happens when you have a seemingly legitimate organization.
		In other words, as opposed to an obvious mob shop type of thing, where the person who controls it uses it as a weapon to defraud others.
		And if the CEO is the crook, he can Take care of all the internal controls.
		He can get rid of all the underwriting.
		And you don't defeat internal controls.
		You actually suborn them.
		You turn them into allies.
		And so these folks were able to get clean audit opinions from the most elite accounting institutions in the world, even though the places were massively insolvent.
		They were, of course, able to get grossly inflated appraisals.
		from top appraisers, and they were able to get AAA, that's pristine, that's supposed to mean zero credit risk, AAA ratings from the top three rating companies in the world for stuff that was known in the trade as toxic waste.
		And that allowed them to sell trillions of dollars, well over two trillion dollars
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now this has been described as a Ponzi scheme too big to fail and it's now a black hole and that the industry that engineered this understands that they can hold the population hostage and say just do whatever we say or we'll have a depression and then when we end up in a depression anyways from their activities they're going to be sitting there with all the assets.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, I call it the suicide strategy.
		I don't know if people have seen Blazing Saddles, but the sheriff is surrounded by hostile town folks.
		He takes out his gun, points it at his own head and says, you know, don't move or I'll shoot.
		And that's essentially what these big banks are doing.
		They're saying, you know, give us unlimited amounts of money or we'll fail.
		And if we fail, we'll take down the entire economy with you.
		Why we would believe any of these people is beyond me.
		Why we would leave in charge people that are willing to make that kind of obscene extortion is absolutely beyond me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, specifically, from your experience, tell the listeners a little bit about who you've investigated in the past, what you've dealt with, and you're one of the leading experts, really, in the world on going after these types of frauds.
		But the difference here is, the media's not saying the Keating Five are bad, or the regulators were bad that let it happen.
		Instead, they're saying these are our saviors.
		So, is this new territory where they're just a blank check to do whatever they want?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Now, the terrible shame about this This isn't simply a case of failing to learn from mistakes in the past.
		We've forgotten successes in the past.
		So during the savings and loan debacle, for example, we actually looked.
		God forbid, that would be a nice idea, wouldn't it?
		Look at what was causing the problem.
		We had a national commission.
		I was the deputy staff director on that.
		It concluded, after looking at all the major failures, that at the typical large failure, fraud was, their words, Invariably present.
		And they meant fraud from the CEO ranks.
		Right?
		So there we knew what was going on.
		We knew the pattern that these frauds followed.
		And it's very similar to the existing one.
		You gut your underwriting.
		You pervert your internal controls.
		You grow massively.
		And you make the worst possible loans.
		Because you can grow a lot faster by making bad loans.
		And trying to compete for good loans and because bad loans pay more in the short term in terms of higher interest rates and fees.
		And you make a ton of money as an absolute mathematical guarantee when you do that during the expansion phase of the bubble.
		And then, of course, it's also guaranteed that you'll produce a catastrophe.
		So I was at the staff level, the person leading the re-regulation.
		of the savings and loan industry.
		As a litigation director, I was suing the crooks.
		And as I said, unlike this crisis, we went after places like Lincoln Savings when they were still reporting they were the most profitable savings and loans in the country.
		We said, no, you're frauds, and went about trying to put them out of business.
		In the current crisis, the FBI did not even begin to investigate The big lenders.
		And remember, 80% of the fraud, according to the FBI, comes from the lenders.
		The FBI doesn't even begin to investigate them until March of 2007, when the entire secondary market in toxic waste shuts down.
		And of course, it's now two years later, and there is not a single significant indictment of any of these specialty frauds.
		And a whole chunk of these folks What they sold was known in the trade as liar's loans.
		Now how hard is it, as a prosecutor, as a regulator, to figure out that if the trade calls something a fraud, it's probably a fraud?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
		They even label it a fraud.
		I mean, look at Madoff.
		How, for nine years, was he telling the SEC this was going on, and then when the SEC is asked about it, they say, oh, he's not guilty, or he hasn't pled guilty yet when he already had, and then they arrogantly, you know, declare executive privilege?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, the SEC has been emasculated.
		It is utterly non-functional.
		What we now know, finally, Because finally, Congress started to hold some hearings last year into the rating agencies.
		And we learned the following things about the rating agencies.
		And the rating agencies were absolutely critical.
		If you don't get a AAA rating, you can't sell this toxic waste.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, stay there, sir.
		We got a break.
		Quick break.
		Come back with our guest, William K. Black.
		He is a Associate Professor of Economics and Law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law and one of the head honchos that went after the SNL barons successfully during the 1980s.
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barack obama ▲ ● ▼		We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright, William K. Black is our guest.
		We're gonna go right back to him.
		Mr. Black boiling it all down.
		But in your own words, both parties are bought and paid for by Wall Street.
		Obama got, what, four times Wall Street money McCain did.
		I'm not saying I was pushing McCain either.
		Obama's claiming he's fighting Wall Street when his whole administration, it seems, is filled with the very people that got rid of the Glass-Steagall Act and allowed this to happen from the 1990s.
		And, of course, the Bush people are willing accomplices as well.
		I mean, can you speak specifically to that?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
		Clearly, the Rubin-Sommers-Geithner wing of economic advice in the Obama administration is very, very similar to Paulson's views.
		In other words, there really is not much of a difference at all between the two administrations In their view, there was broad bipartisan support for getting rid of the Glass-Steagall Law, for example.
		There was broad bipartisan support for destroying Brooksley Bourne's effort to regulate credit default swaps, which are the things that blew up AIG.
		And at AIG, the taxpayers have already lost more money than the entire savings and loan cost, debacle cost.
		And by the way, you know, AIG, we weren't on the hook.
		It's not a federally insured depository.
		That was gratuitous giveaway of taxpayer money.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So this is a new level of Ponzi schemes, where they make hundreds of billions and trillions on the way up, and now, with the bailouts on their Ponzi scheme, they get even more money on the other side of it with the taxpayer on the hook.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, this will only encourage more fraud.
william black ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what we're trying to get across.
		You do this type of thing, You encourage businesses to be even more abusive going forward, because they can do the most outrageous things, get incredibly wealthy through the bonuses doing them, and even when they cause disaster, they get new bonuses and more compensation paid by the taxpayers.
		It is a system, you know, the movie The Gods Must Be Crazy.
		It's got to be the theme for both administrations.
		Because it is utterly insane policy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But isn't it crazy like a fox?
		I mean, they make money on building up the Pyramid Ponzi scheme, and then now, because they're in total control of both parties in the executive, legislative, judicial, to a certain extent, and they control the military and the police, and they control the media, and so it's crazy like a fox!
		I mean, they're making out like bandits!
william black ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't say it's crazy from a banker's perspective.
		It's perfectly sensible from a banker's perspective.
		But from any politician's perspective, yeah, we can understand how much they get in the way of campaign contributions, but this is a superb way to get thrown out of office.
		It's a superb way to have your reputation destroyed and to have your integrity besmirched.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is it not a superb way, Professor Black, to also cause a Weimar Republic type situation?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that we'll stop short of Weimar this time, certainly, but if you keep this up, you will take, you know, by far the top nation in the world in a whole host of dimensions, and you will reduce it to another case of crony capitalism, where you have utter socialism for the rich, in the sense of the failed bankers, paid for by all of us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that will be a very bad place to live in so let's all work together to prevent it from happening right let's turn this around now as opposed to waiting for it to become as bad as weimar wow that is You know, I try to explain that to people and they're like, it's liberal, it's conservative, it's socialism, it's fascism.
		And I'm like, no, this is corrupt pirates running inside scams, bankrupting everything, and then having the people pay for it.
		When Newsweek comes out and says we're all socialists now, isn't this, this is the opposite of socialism.
		This isn't them helicoptering money down on the people.
		This is helicoptering money to the offshore banks.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, if you wanted precedent to be closest to National Socialism.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I guess where they call it socialism, but really just give it all to the inner party?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a fascist arrangement.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then they call it socialist.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Right, well, you know, the Nazi Party calls itself National Socialist.
		I'm not comparing either of these to Nazis.
		I don't think that's, you know, that misuse of the phrase strikes me as Really diminishing what Nazis were all about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the economic system is similar.
william black ▲ ● ▼		But the economic system is... I think the best way to describe it is crony capitalism.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
william black ▲ ● ▼		And that's a terrible system.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Anybody who's ever lived in a nation like that doesn't want to be there.
unidentified		Okay.
william black ▲ ● ▼		It's like, of course, there's the crony capitalism.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, exactly.
		It's good for them, nobody else.
		Let's come back and talk about who's at fault, how we bring them to justice, so that we can stop them.
		Because they control the political system now.
		If we don't stop them somehow, as you said, it's going to lead to Weimar Republic or, I guess, Zimbabwe.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the limited time we have with William K. Black, top federal investigator of the SNLs, the Keating Five, helped send some of them to jail.
		and And they got memos out from Keating saying, we want to kill this guy, kill him dead.
		Clearly, very, very scary people.
		And a lot of folks ended up dying mysterious deaths, not just here, but in Australia, and BCCI, and Clark Clifford, and that whole CIA front.
		Mr. Black, Continuing here, I want to go back briefly and then get into who's culpable, what Geithner's up to, you know, how we stop him, because there's this key nexus point.
		As you point out, when you got Paulson, you got Geithner, it now comes out that even, you know, before Obama was elected and after he was elected, they were already working with Geithner on writing up the bailout, the banker takeover, when he was head of the New York Fed.
		And you've got the Chief of Staff, Emanuel from Wall Street, I mean, literally, it's this tight coterie, this group of people in there working together, Republicans and Democrats, like I've never seen before in modern history.
		But a lot of people email me and say, oh, don't bash Obama.
		This was Bush that did all this.
		And I'm like, yeah, Bush did it, and now Obama's going along with it.
		So can you break down what happened with the banker bailout from your own research?
		Is that bipartisan?
william black ▲ ● ▼		The banker bailout is fairly bipartisan.
		It's wrong, not even so much, frankly, because of politics directly, as because of very, very poor creation of the plan, originally by Secretary Paulson, and then eventually with the assistance of Geithner when he was still president.
		of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
		This really wasn't compelled on them by the politicians.
		This is more, they are so tight with the industry.
		Paulson in particular, after all, is the guy who came from Goldman Sachs, had run Goldman Sachs before he became Treasury Secretary, had gotten Goldman Sachs into toxic waste.
		He's the guy that got them into trouble with toxic waste.
		Then he comes out And AIG is in trouble.
		He appoints a group to give him advice and he puts Goldman Sachs, his own firm, on the advisory panel when it has a massive conflict of interest because AIG owes it billions and billions of dollars.
		And guess what?
		They advise.
		They advise Paulson to use, first to bail out AIG and then to secretly Bailout favored banks, and in particular Goldman Sachs.
		Goldman Sachs got $12.9 billion, the biggest single recipient of taxpayer money, through this kind of bailout.
		And then both Paulson, and then it continued under the Obama administration, Geithner, tried very hard to make sure that we the public would never learn That our taxpayer dollars had done that.
		What changed that, and this is why people should not give up, was political pressure from Congress.
		And political pressure not on the administration, which was, you know, let it roll off its back like a duck, but political pressure on AIG.
		And here's what the mantra was.
		Not a penny more.
		Not a penny more of taxpayer money It goes to AIG until we know how the money has been used.
		And that's pressure on AIG is the only reason we know about the Goldman bailout, or that the fact that $50 billion roughly of US taxpayer money went to bail out foreign banks.
		Foreign banks.
		Why would we do that?
		Including UBS, a massive Swiss bank.
		That at the same time we were bailing them out secretly with 5 billion dollars, the US government tells us that UBS was involved in defrauding the taxpayers of America.
		We hit them with a huge fine in a settlement of 780 million dollars.
		But you do the math.
		If we gave them 5 billion dollars and they paid us 780 million, who really paid the fine?
unidentified		The U.S.
william black ▲ ● ▼		taxpayers really paid that fine.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're paying them to steal from us, and you've got Bloomberg's reporting $12.8 trillion committed, and that's almost the gross domestic product of the country.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Am I right in saying this is the biggest fraud in history?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Oh, easily.
		And that's why I think our mantra should be, not a penny more until we have a PCORA investigation started.
		was the guy, experienced prosecutor that we brought in the Great Depression to say, find out the facts.
		And the Wall Street fat cats hated him, detested him, fought him every step of the way.
		But he found the facts.
		He found the widespread fraud.
		And it led to many of the statutory changes that for 50 years worked so successfully in America Until Wall Street, you know, finally got enough political juice to get rid of the laws right near the end of the Clinton administration.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now on record, it was the Clinton people with the Republicans in tandem in the 90s that gutted most of this, and then George W. Bush was a happy participant in the run-up to what we see now.
		Can you speak specifically to that?
		And in your own words, is this not a complete hijacking of our entire economy by Wall Street?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, I can't speak to that directly, and yes, it was at the, they were at the beck and call of the industry.
		The laws passed by overwhelming margins, but this was very much a Rubin, Summers, and Phil Graham working together special to get rid of Glass-Steagall.
		And then the shutting down of Brooksley Bourne when she was trying to regulate these credit default swaps that destroyed AIG, that again was Summers and Phil Graham working together.
		This is so bizarre.
		They not only passed a law that stopped her particular proposed regulation, The law said you can't regulate to protect the taxpayers at all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they are legislating protection of crime.
		For people that don't understand, can you explain what toxic... I mean, for those that may not be able to grasp it or who've heard it bantered around in the media but don't, you know, get exactly what it is, can you explain what these toxic, toxic waste assets are?
		I mean, am I right in saying they're just Fiat, fraudulent, Ponzi scheme, mining stock in Arizona type, you know, crud, that they then have big insurance companies certify, and then that becomes another toxic layer of debt.
		Those certifications are then traded, and then how many layers in the pyramid, you know, as they nest, like Russian dolls, these frauds within each other.
		I mean, this is This is the biggest, I mean, to my mind, it's just such a ridiculous scam on its face.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're right that it's layered.
		It isn't typically mining stock, you know, fake mining stock.
		It was typically what we call subprime or liar's loans, what we call the underlined.
		And that means, as it became in truth in 2006, 2007, Lending to folks where a very substantial number of people were going to default on the mortgages.
		We're talking maybe 25%.
		Typically default rates on prime mortgages run under 1% to give you a contrast.
		So something 25 times as bad roughly.
		And then you did create lots of elaborate, we call them financial derivatives, on top of them, some of which took the form of supposedly being insurance.
		They used the language of insurance, but in reality they were just pretty much open guarantees.
		That's what credit default swaps are in reality.
		And you're right that that not only layered, but if you think about it like those kids' games where you try to stack things on top of each other?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
william black ▲ ● ▼		And they can hold up and they can hold up.
		They start shaking and they become more unwieldy.
		And the bad news is, the longer it holds together before it collapses, the bigger the collapse and the more damage when it collapses.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So the old adage of the bigger they are, the harder they fall.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, now they don't fall at all, right?
		They're not allowed to fall.
		I mean, President Obama was asked at press conference now this is about six weeks ago and he said well you know hardly any banks are in trouble and he was asked well good are you going to close the ones that are oh no no we're not going to close any large banks well what happens when you give people immunity in advance it causes recklessness uh At best.
		Recklessness on a good day, outright fraud on most days.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So can you describe this then, if it's not even a Ponzi scheme that's meant to fail now, then what is it?
		A debt bomb?
		Or like a black hole that then is going to suck everything into it?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, it was a Ponzi dynamic.
		You had to grow and grow and grow much more rapidly, which is why people poured on the toxic waste.
		At increasingly fast rates in 2006-2007.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that's what I'm asking.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is a Ponzi scheme that then blows up and turns into a black hole.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		One institution, IndyMac, sold 80 billion dollars of liars loans in one year.
		In four and a half years, it sold far more liars loans than the entire savings and loan debacle.
		So IndyMac all by itself pretty much cost the same as the entire savings and loan debacle.
		See how intensifying, how much worse it gets if you don't fix the underlying problem.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So they knew though, I mean all along they knew this was going to implode and then devastate things.
william black ▲ ● ▼		They were selling liar's loans.
william black ▲ ● ▼		What was to know?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, I understand that.
william black ▲ ● ▼		How more transparent can you get?
		So, so clearly... Can you imagine coming to the regulators saying, hi, we've got a new strategic business plan.
		Great, what is it?
		We're going to make fraudulent loans.
		Oh, okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so this, this is key, Professor.
		You're saying that, I mean, just on record, That the people that remove these laws, because I remember seeing Senator Dornan and others say this was going to happen on the floor, but he was against it.
		They knew from setting it up, from running it up to running it down, they fully knew, and this was premeditated.
william black ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not saying that.
		I don't know that Congress knows.
		I'm telling you that in the trade, everybody knew that if you made something called a liar's loan, It was because they were frauds, overwhelmingly, and that it was going to produce a disaster.
		Now, Congress, of course, is paid not to know, right?
		The bankers don't go in front of Congress and say, hi, we want to produce a disaster.
		Please take our money.
		They tell Congress, hey, we have this wonderful new thing, financial derivatives, and everybody, which is to say us, you know, on Wall Street, says this is the greatest thing Since sliced bread, right?
		And everything's going to be wonderful.
		And, and we need it because unless we have it, we can't compete with the German massive, what are called universal banks that can do anything.
		So we have to get rid of every protection we've ever put in place in the United States so that our big banks can compete with their giant banks.
		That's how they sold it to Congress.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But obviously, somebody in Congress before knew it was bad, or it wouldn't have been illegal previously.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, yes, because we did an investigation and we found the facts.
william black ▲ ● ▼		So, I urge your listeners to join us in demanding an investigation of what caused the problem, and of course, that we then fix the problem as opposed to ignore it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright, in your own words.
william black ▲ ● ▼		We did fix it after the Great Depression, and it worked for You know, a whole two generations of Americans.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright, well we're going to get into solutions in the final segment coming up, but I also want folks to get your book, The Best Way to Rob a Bank is to Own One, by our guest, William K. Black.
		But, Mr. Black, specifically, you've been very critical, even though you were a supporter of Obama, of Geithner and others.
		Specifically, what has Geithner been up to?
		I mean, isn't he a central figure in all of this?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, and he makes it absolutely clear that Obama in this category, finance, was continuing the Paulson policies, because Geithner was Paulson's right-hand man.
		And you would have thought that would have disqualified him, but for some reason that was viewed as a positive by the Obama administration.
		And so he was not only kept on, he was promoted to Treasury Secretary.
		And of course he's continued these policies and in some ways he's actually made them worse.
		And that's saying something because the Paulson policies were horrific.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then Obama comes out and says, I'm fighting the CEO bonuses, and then it turns out he wrote the executive order and told Senator Dodd to write the loophole in the stimulus package.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that is a new level in arrogant lying.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, and it's not just that, because the press reports also show that Treasury is currently working behind the scenes With Wall Street to try to exempt them effectively from even the existing laws that were passed in part over the opposition of the Obama administration.
unidentified		Right?
william black ▲ ● ▼		In the stimulus bill, and this again, but you know, don't give up folks.
		In the stimulus bill, there was a revolt among Democrats.
		And in complete opposition to what President Obama wanted, They put some restraint on bonuses and compensation into the stimulus bill.
		But of course, as I said, the reports are that the Obama administration is now trying to work with Wall Street to help evade those restrictions.
		We need to re-energize both sides of the aisle to stop this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Black, what does it mean when they do these stress tests to the banks, and then say to the banks, don't tell the public what we found, and then it leaks that the banks are really in dire situation?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Oh no, it doesn't leak that they're really in dire situation.
		They're busy leaking the propaganda that everything's wonderful.
		And it's being picked up uncritically in places like Bloomberg and the New York Times.
		The stress tests are a sham, and I've said that.
		You know, people can go on the web, sites like Naked Capitalism, and see excerpts of my reasons why it's a sham.
		I predicted in advance it would be a sham, and it's obviously proven to be a sham.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's my next question, and we're about to break.
		Where can people find the body of your work?
		It's prolific.
		I mean, they can buy your book in stores, but how do folks find your writings?
		Just Google William K. Black?
unidentified		That will work, although you'll get many hits.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Or go to, you said, the nakedcapitalist.com?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Naked Capitalism is one of the financial blog sites.
		You can look at Huffington Post.
		You can look at Cato.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, stay there, sir.
		We really appreciate you being with us.
		An amazing individual, William K. Black, is our guest.
		We'll be right back.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's right, there is a war on for your mind, and we have somebody who's a great captain for Liberty in the fight to get people to open their minds and wake up.
		William K. Black, author of The Best Selling, wrote it three, four years ago, and it's best seller again, because he predicted everything that was going to happen.
		The best way to rob a bank is to own one.
		Be sure and get that.
		Because if we don't turn this around, you know, that's the big question, sir.
		If we don't turn this around, and they just continue the Ponzi schemes that are now getting Galactic in size, where is this leading us?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can already see where it's been leading, right?
		The savings and loan crisis, it was a miracle it was contained when it was because the political pressure there was even more severe than you had here.
		But you turned out to have this incredibly brave regulator, Ed Gray, who took on his own administration, took on Wall Street, Uh, and succeeded, uh, brilliantly.
		But there's been nobody like that in this crisis.
		So, you had the savings and loan at about $150 billion.
		Then you go over to Russia, and they tried out these ideas of Russian privatization.
		And it produced massive corruption and the rise of a few very, very rich multibillionaires.
		Uh, many of them connected with organized crime.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The oligarchs!
william black ▲ ● ▼		The oligarchs.
		And it, you know, when this happens, Look what happens politically in reaction.
		You get dramatic political changes as people become infuriated.
		So where did they hit next?
		This was the Washington Consensus, was their phrase.
		That we knew how to run life and it was the way Wall Street said.
		And so they did this through Latin America.
		And what did it produce there?
		Ten years of stagnation and incredible corruption and giveaways To the biggest, you know, their version of Wall Street, and what has happened politically, who's getting elected in Latin America?
		You know, people that now intensely hate capitalism and America in reaction.
		Well, we didn't learn any of those lessons from any of those crises, so we're currently in this one, and this one is big enough that it's global, and it's going to be the most severe recession In the lives of anybody under the age of 80.
		We can't afford to repeat it because you don't just repeat as I've been trying to get across.
		When you don't fix it, it doesn't just repeat, it comes back much worse.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we're going to get to solutions in the final segment coming up in a moment, but Madoff, you talk about organized crime, it's now in the Times of London and the Associated Press, I'm sure you've seen it, that Cuomo's going after one of Madoff's managers, and they're saying they believe there's organized crime, drug money, laundering going on.
william black ▲ ● ▼		In all of the really big frauds, you're going to find the other thing we haven't talked about, and that is the role of the offshore stuff.
		Right?
		Which is like UBS, we were talking at the giant Swiss bank, where very, very wealthy people evade taxes by putting their money in these tax havens, and that always leads to wide-scale corruption.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And doesn't it lead to selective enforcement, though?
		I mean, we see Geithner and all of them saying they're going to go after this, but then when you read the fine print, it's selectively, and that's what the Caymans and the Virgin Islands and the Swiss are saying.
		Is there any truth to that?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's certainly true, period.
		In other words, if you look, in the Bush administration, what's particularly terrible on this It largely reoriented its enforcement against poor taxpayers in a way for rich taxpayers.
		Actually, what we're trying to do on UBS might reverse that a bit.
		That would be good news.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to come right back.
		I want to finish up with that.
		Yeah, that's right.
		I remember seeing the numbers where they took almost all the FBI agents off the billionaire swindlers and put them on blue collar and white collar, you know, mid-level stuff.
		It's just amazing.
		Talk about Fox running the hen house.
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		That's just amazing, because I've studied this constantly and I have all these guests on.
		And to talk to Mr. Black, he just puts it all together.
		Okay, you were getting into what I've even seen in the New York Times and Washington Post.
		They admit that under Bush, they took most of the regulators and most of the FBI investigators off the big tax thieves and put them literally on mom and pops.
		I mean, if that is an open, conscious criminality, I mean, you'd think the government would want these tax revenues.
		Can you speak to that?
william black ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they throw away money.
		It's completely insane.
		They cut the overall number, even though they knew that they would cost them more in lost taxes that they would save by not having enough IRS people.
		And then they oriented the IRS people overwhelmingly towards not even middle class, but actually working class Americans.
		You know, it's a spectacular misuse of money.
		It results in far less tax dollars being, far fewer tax dollars being collected.
		There's nobody that can defend it, but it's part of the general piece.
		You know, white-collar prosecutions are down more than 25% under the Bush administration, when of course white-collar crimes reached An unprecedented level in history.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now it's accelerating under Obama.
		I mean, are we seeing an acceleration of that?
		I mean, I don't see them changing the enforcement.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Well, we certainly haven't seen it yet.
		I talked earlier that they first announced that they were actually going to investigate the big lenders, which they themselves, again, said were the key frauds two years ago, March 2007.
		Not a single major indictment.
		So, you know, Maybe they're having the most wonderful, most secret, most successful investigation of all time, and there have been no leaks.
		But that doesn't sound like America to me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, we've only got a few minutes left, sir, and then I'll let you take a break and do the interview with the guys.
		Again, we're very thankful and we'll have you back up soon because you can't do this in an hour.
		In closing, what are the solutions?
		I mean, for me, if we start grand jury investigations, not just federal but state, if we go after more of these Madoff crooks, get them to flip and expose the larger system, isn't the quickest way to end this is to have investigations and start arresting people?
		I mean, won't that point out how this is criminal and needs to be stopped?
william black ▲ ● ▼		But you won't get that as long as the failed bankers, often the fraudulent failed bankers, are left in positions of power.
		You need to put honest bankers in who will have the incentive and the orders to find where the bodies are buried and to make the necessary criminal referrals.
		The FBI cannot do this on its own.
		So, here's an action agenda.
		One, start the PCORA investigation immediately.
		2.
		Get rid of the bad bankers that caused the failures.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		3.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Put honest, competent bankers in.
unidentified		4.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Find the facts about the assets.
unidentified		5.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Make the appropriate criminal referrals with detailed roadmaps for the FBI so they can make a successful case.
		6.
		Indict them.
unidentified		7.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Look for the Achilles heel in the fraud.
		We don't have remotely enough people.
		We should, of course, increase Greatly the number of FBI agents, but you also have to do like an emergency in medicine.
		You have to triage.
		You have to prioritize.
		So go after the rating agencies.
		There are only three of them.
		With 20 competent regulators, you could rip that place out and build it in a competent, fresh fashion.
		And without the AAA ratings, this crisis Couldn't have become a global disaster.
		So there's my action agenda.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Very well done.
		And please talk to the guys in more detail about solutions.
		The problem is, though, the very corrupt elite that have engineered this are in control of both parties.
		And the fox is running the henhouse.
		So it doesn't look like that's going to happen, does it?
william black ▲ ● ▼		If we get the facts through a PCOR investigation, we will so embarrass them that they will not be able to block many of these reforms.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it is us or them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they're only going to make it worse if we don't do it, right?
william black ▲ ● ▼		That's the whole history that I just went through.
william black ▲ ● ▼		The policy is getting much worse.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Mr. Black.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you for spending time.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Obama's already fudging.
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		And I know we've got callers all over the map.
		I want to talk about a host of issues.
		Is this a current date of callers here, John, or have we even opened the phones up yet?
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		What's a fauxhawk?
		Oh, he's got a fauxhawk.
		My God, ladies and gentlemen.
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		I mean, there was a former top federal regulator and investigator telling you that complete criminals run everything.
		I mean, they consciously are running it.
		The Foxes run the hen house.
		Congress is bankrolled by these people.
		The Republicans are bankrolled by them.
		Obama's bankrolled by them.
		It wouldn't matter who he elected, they would have done this.
		But they wanted Obama because they decided he could sucker people a little bit better.
		And that's it.
		Period.
		And, you know, I try to laugh about this, but it's not funny, because your pension funds, your police funds, your fire funds, your teacher funds, your private funds, were all invested in this, and they've already stolen about half of it.
		And they're going to steal it all.
		That's what this hyperinflation means.
		And that's guaranteed with what they've done.
		Let me run over some of the other headlines here that are very, very important.
		This is all my global government stack I had yesterday.
		Where's the stack I had earlier on the show?
		I wanted to go over that.
		I can't keep track of it anymore, ladies and gentlemen.
		Well, what's happened is, and it's even happened to me, we've all gotten acclimated to live with corruption.
		To live with government out of control, and corporations out of control, and individuals out of control.
		I mean, we just put up with more crap than we should, and now criminals are just running over every facet of society.
		I mean, it's criminal when the police run a checkpoint without warrants, but we put up with it.
		It's criminal when they have the army out suddenly running checkpoints to acclimate us.
		Why do you think they're doing all of that?
		Because they're going to steal everything and take it offshore and they know people are going to riot and burn everything down.
		And they're going to march out the cops and military to have gun battles with you when you're doing it.
		And the banks even bragging their IMF World Bank documents that they love that because then they get to buy up what's left even cheaper.
		And I'm saying we don't want this to happen.
		And so I get newspapers attacking me because I'm calling for not having violence.
		The establishment is bold.
		They say, you want to murder cops.
		And I go, I just said we don't want this to happen.
		And they go, no.
		You want to murder cops.
		You cause cops to be murdered.
		And I'm going, the bankers are engineering a collapse.
		They're going to go after the people's guns.
		They've introduced the bills.
		It's going to be a bloodbath.
		We don't want violence.
		And they say, You know what?
	You're a cop killer.
	See, I mean, it's like, this is psychological warfare.
	They mean it to be crazy.
	They mean it to be wild.
	You know, why have they come out in the case of one Al Qaeda member and claimed he's been killed over 15 times and never retract the last time he was killed?
	Why do they do that?
	They never say he wasn't killed last time.
	Chemical Ali, they claim they killed him four times.
	Now they're saying they're going to execute him or something.
	And they would say, here he is, here's his dead body.
	Here's the dead bodies of Saddam's sons.
	And then they'd say a month later, oh, we killed Saddam's sons again.
	We killed Chemical Ali again.
	Oh, we killed him again six months later.
	Oh, we killed him again.
	And they never retract that we didn't kill him last time.
	They are practicing being caught as liars openly.
	It's a psychological tactic and psychological warfare to just be caught, and it's just... And then I remember the first time they said they killed him, they said, oh, here's their two dead bodies, bombed in a house, you can pull this up.
	And it said they've been reconstructed with wax and clay, so they're recognizable.
	And it's too... I mean, I could take a ball of clay and make a better fake head and stick a fake mustache on it.
	And I remember looking at the pictures on the news and saying, those are fake!
	Those aren't even people!
	And then they came out and the others said, oh yeah, it was reconstructed clay to show what their dead bodies looked like.
	That was in the news!
	Like they came out and said, uh, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed bombed all these buildings that were bombed four years after he was in custody.
	And the news just said, it doesn't matter if he was in custody, he bombed it.
	They just practice evil.
	They just practice lying constantly.
	But there's millions of other types of deception.
	Here's one.
	I'm on the treadmill this morning for 30 minutes, I didn't have enough time to be on there longer, and I'm watching CNN and Fox, I'm flipping back and forth, and it's Barack Obama's got a lot of rich Wall Street people in his administration, but David Gergen, a Republican, says that's a good idea because they're experts and know how to fix it.
	And the next piece was...
	He lost his arm in Iraq, but he's not even a U.S.
	citizen.
	How mean!
	But now he gets to become a U.S.
	citizen.
	That's meant to make you think it's okay that they're converting the majority of the force, from a big piece to a majority, to foreign or illegal aliens from all over the country, and all over the world.
	And then I was back there getting some coffee earlier, and it was another piece on another news channel, I think it was MSN, and we were recording it, and I'm seeing the propaganda.
	They got the same report on another channel!
	This is admittedly fake!
	To where, oh, I love the foreigners that make up our... They aren't bringing in foreign troops, though they've signed agreements to use purely foreign armies publicly.
	That isn't a rumor, that's mainstream news.
	Public agreements.
	Congress asked last year, what are you doing signing agreements to use foreign troops in the United States?
	And NORTHCOM said, have you read PDD 51?
	Shut up!
	Shut up, Congress, or we'll put you in a MIAC report!
	We run things now!
	Literally!
	Don't believe me.
	Guys, Google it.
	It was in the Toronto Star and a bunch of Canadian papers and one U.S.
	paper.
	Google this.
	Let me call up the exact headline.
	Hold on.
	Or close.
	I'll go to your calls.
	Because I keep getting emails saying they're not doing deals for foreign troops even though I've been to urban warfare drills where they're training to have foreign troops take your guns and admitting it's for America.
	Police State 2000.
	Let me think.
	Congress complains about not being notified about military agreement with Canada and Mexico.
	Congress complains about not being notified or not being included, something like that.
	And then you read the article, it just calmly says, oh, Canadian and Mexican troops signed deals in Canada today to, under NORTHCOM, police the United States during insurrection or terrorism.
	And then they come out in the Canadian paper and go, oh, the troops are going to be patrolling to stop drunks on the weekends.
	Same thing here.
	We're stopping drunk driving with the army.
	And then they announce it here.
	And the governor of Tennessee says, no, you're not going to use army on the streets of Tennessee.
	And they go...
	Oh, we aren't?
	Go to hell!
	Ha ha ha!
	That was last weekend!
	We're all, oh, we had a victory!
	The governor said no, and then we learned Monday, it's in the newspapers, the army was out, with highways shut down, quote, for over a mile, with the army searching people!
	And then I go, oh look, here's the Tennessee newspapers!
	And then I get national newspapers saying I'm a lying kook, and it doesn't exist!
	I mean, you know, it's reached a new level.
	Like Obama writing the executive order for the bonuses and then getting on TV saying, I'm gonna stop the bonuses, I'm outraged.
	I mean, they've introduced all these bills to basically ban guns in America.
	Unlimited banning is what one of the bills gives you.
	And then they just say to us, you're liars.
	I mean, I have newspaper reporters calling me, going, why are you putting out this disinformation that Obama wants the guns?
	And I go, well, let me give you some bill numbers.
	No, no, I'm not interested in that.
	You're not interested, you little... Man, I'm not gonna...
	I mean, folks, we're... total criminals run everything.
	We are screwed.
	And if we don't realize how bad it is, we have no hope of getting out of this.
	The house is caved in on us, you know, we're pinned, we're bleeding, and the American people are going, oh, it's a little cramped, but I... and I'm, like, in the rubble with them going, listen, this is really bad, we gotta work together to dig out of here.
	And, you know, and they're like, shut up, conspiracy theorist!
	Hold on, let me pull this two-by-four with nails out of my back.
	I mean, we're caved in here, and I'm saying, let's dig our way out, and the people are arguing, going, I don't know, the ceiling's supposed to be six inches from the floor.
	And there's those of us that have been trying to hold the house up, you know, we're down here in the mine, like the song Big John.
	And we're sitting around to hold this thing up together, and then the public's punching us in the stomach and chest going, stop it, conspiracy theorists!
	Stop being anti-government!
	You're evil!
	There's no new world order!
	There's no global bank!
	Everything's fine!
	Shut up!
	There's no one-child policy and no carbon tax!
	And they're just punching us.
	We're going, please, stop!
	They're just punching us.
	I'm going, please!
	We're trying to hold up things, you know, and they're just, bam, bam, bam, they're just, like, punching us as fast as they can.
	We're going, please!
	Please, we can't hold it much longer!
	My God, they're building FEMA camps!
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The government loves me!
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		They're just punching, punching!
		Number one, please, please!
		You know, please stop punching!
		No, no, the government's good!
		The government loves me!
		They're just punching, punching, punching, punching!
		The cops are reading Mayak reports and pulling Ron Paul supporters over.
		Get out of the car!
		And of course, then they're starting to buy guns and starting to go, whoa, we're going to have to fight!
		Do you see how this is a self-fulfilling prophecy?
unidentified		You understand this is real?
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Obama's already fudging.
unidentified		He's fudged since day one in this election.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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		This film documents who Obama works for, the lies he is told, and his real agenda.
		Get your copy of The Obama Deception today at InfoWars.com or download it in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		One of our sponsors just sent us all these little orange gorillas.
		Bring one in.
		I want to make a tinfoil hat for one of them.
		Because if you think the banks are corrupt and out of control, you're a tinfoil hat person.
		Look at that.
		Very evil.
		This is probably in a MIAC report.
		Ha ha ha, yeah!
unidentified		Ha!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ninja attack, anyways.
		You know what?
		I try to have fun.
		And I apologize.
		I need to be more serious.
		Let's just go to your phone calls right now, as promised.
		Joe in New Mexico, sir, you're on the air.
		Welcome.
unidentified		Hey, Alex.
		I'm getting kind of frustrated here, and I was listening to that William Black interview with you.
		And I watched his Moyers.
		People gotta go back and watch the third segment on that.
		This guy is, he's holding back.
		You know, you are a truth seeker.
		This guy, in my opinion, he's pulling his leg back.
		And the reason why I say that, Alex, is he talks about how these guys have good intentions and they were just frankly scared, and that's why they did the bailouts.
		You know, ask him what's up with the WAMU and JPMorgan, a solvent entity being sucked up by JPMorgan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, he's on this show saying that they engineered the thing knowing it would collapse and that they're criminals.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's one of the strongest voices out there at his level.
unidentified		He is, but Alex, the guy that's holding back, he knows more.
		He knows a lot more.
		And I just wonder why he's scared or holding back.
		He's not like you.
		He doesn't go full bore and say, these are the facts.
		You can just see it.
		There's more to this.
		And I think he's pulling a Glenn Beck and he's desensitizing people on the issue.
		And it's kind of following what I'm saying.
		I'm just frustrated.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I hear you, but instead of worrying about the bankers taking over and everything that's happening and admitting they're chemtrailing us now, just deny it all!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, because you don't want them to say you wear a tinfoil hat.
unidentified		I mean, the governments have always... No, but it's like the Tea Parties, Alex.
		They're talking about taxation.
		The problem is the stinkin' Federal Reserve!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I agree.
		But listen, more and more it's a process.
		More and more at those Tea Party meetings, they are talking about the private Federal Reserve and the New World Order.
		So what's happening, and that's the reason Fox News is having to at least pay lip service to FEMA, Cams, and New World Order and global currency now, is because Conservatives, Libertarians, and Liberals have been woken up by people like you and I and many others, and so they've lost all credibility.
		So you even hear a lot of this stuff on CNBC and CNN now, so they understand that we're effective.
		So, folks, you know, you should feel good to a certain extent that we've been able to reach as many people as we have been able to, but I appreciate your call.
		Will in Louisiana.
		Will, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hi.
		Yes, go ahead.
		or what I think planned by the IMF with the synthetic currency loans and how they plan to deface or devalue the currency.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, go ahead.
unidentified		What they're planning to do is take this currency loans, let's say the United States loans, Japanese, and then they pay us back that loan with Japanese yen in their exchange rate.
unidentified		So they don't have to hold American dollars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sir, there's no such thing as exchange rate.
		Hundreds of newspapers haven't announced that there's a world government.
		Everything is fine.
		I mean, no one's ever wanted to rule the world.
		There aren't global elites.
		The Council on Foreign Relations and literally hundreds of documents just in the last few years hasn't called for global governance.
		I mean, they actually have.
		But International Institutions and Global Governance Program World Order 21st Century, May 1st, 2008, with David Rockefeller saying they're going to engineer a planetary takeover by the UN by a world depression.
		I mean, that doesn't exist, sir.
		And if you think it exists, if you think the CFR exists, well, then you're an orange monkey wearing a tinfoil hat.
		That's all I can really say.
unidentified		But do you see how they don't have to hold American dollars now?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They can just pay us back in... But see, according to the yuppies, none of this even exists.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So why does it even matter?
unidentified		And then can I touch on one thing?
unidentified		The collateralized debt obligations?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure, go ahead.
unidentified		And how they don't have to pay tax if they're a multinational.
unidentified		They're exempt from certain taxes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		They pay less than 1% tax.
		Taxes are for little people.
		That's why the IRS has its investigators going after folks making 20 grand a year.
		They don't go after folks making a billion a year.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Basically, that's all I wanted to touch on.
unidentified		I wanted to touch on synthetic currency loans and more information needs to be looked into on the tax structure within these derivatives and these collateralized debt obligations.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, you're right, and they're all ready.
		Issuing the global currency and they admit that in major papers.
		But again, that doesn't exist according to the yuppies, who are actually a brainwashed cult of nuts.
		They're the tinfoil hat wearers.
		They believe the false reality because they're such cowards.
		And that's why they're going to lose everything they've got.
		But even when they lose everything they've got, they're such cowards, they're still going to worship the government and feel like they're members of the establishment.
		And the government's going to point them like a dangerous horde at us.
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barack obama ▲ ● ▼		We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Obama's already fudging.
unidentified		He's fudged since day one in this election.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Rob Dew, my producer, one of our producers popping in. - Real quick here on the show with us, and I'm going to your calls right now, here in just a moment.
		Got some key updates for folks.
		You found a 1930s newspaper editorial describing how the communists are actually in control of the banks.
		So the people knew what was going on.
		They're not really communists.
		They're criminals that tell the dumbed-down public, we're here to give you money and workers' paradise.
		And the first thing they do is steal all the money and set up a police state.
		But read for folks who are on the radio who can't see that on screen at PrisonPlanet.tv what it says.
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		So it's a picture, it's an editorial cartoon and it's got a guy, his name is, I can't even read it now, but he's, they're all in Harvard type graduate uniforms and they're running down on this cart and they're shoveling money out of it and then over here, this is I guess Karl Marx, is that who that is?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Karl Marx.
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		It says, uh, plan of action for U.S.
		Spin, spin, spin under the guise of recovery, bust the government, blame the capitalists for the failure, junk the constitution, and declare a dictatorship.
		And, um, it says, uh, young, it has a thing here, it says, young pinkies from Columbia and Harvard depleting the resources of the soundest government in the world.
		And this is from, uh, 1933.
		And there it is on, on there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And I printed the article, it's here in my stack.
		What is it, 49%?
		I'm going from memory, let me get it.
		49% of Americans say they want socialism because they've been sold on, that means you get the rich people's money.
		No, that means the rich people, the IRS, take you if you mow lawns for a living's money.
		And that's what we just covered earlier with Professor Black.
		And they give it to offshore banks.
		And this is not socialism.
		And socialism never exists.
		Elites always, the big foundations, the big money, push it because they want to steal what you've got and feed it right into their gaping mouths.
		Guys, pull up that InfoWars.com headline.
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		It's like history repeating itself.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's out of a major A major, major polling agency did it, and 49 percent, and I love the graphic Nemo put up for the story, it's a picture, I'm going to make a t-shirt out of this, it's a picture of a guy in blue, no in red, with a gun up to a guy in blue's head who's got the bag of money in his hand, and it says socialism, that's all it is, but that's my point on that.
		Now, we've got a lot of exciting stuff happening.
		Activists, if you want to be in the new Obama film, get the Obama Deception, it is the new film right now, but on July 4th, a new Obama film is coming out, and then I'm going to take a rest from that for a while, but it's so important to discredit him and show he's a fraud, we're doing that.
		We're sending folks, and now they've asked me to speak, but I don't know if I'm going to go.
		April 19th, up at Lexington in Massachusetts, where the Revolutionary War started in 1775, with the gun confiscation.
		Today, they would just come take the guns and say, we're not taking your guns, but we're taking them.
		And the Patriots founders would have said, oh, yes, you're taking my guns at gunpoint, but you're not taking my guns.
		You know, but they weren't mind-controlled drinking fluoride then, so it wouldn't work.
		So we're going to have cameras up there, you're going to that.
		We can't be everywhere.
		Shoot video of tea parties, because I want to show the solution, the activism, while we're at it, we'll probably do a little vignette exposing Beck as an operative.
		But tell folks about some of the great ideas listeners have, and I'm going to the calls.
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we got an email from a group in Arizona State University.
		Obama's speaking there on the 13th of May.
		And they're going to pass out, and I saw they showed the boxes of the Obama deceptions they've been copying.
		They're going to pass out 10,000 copies of the Obama deception.
		At the commencement speech, which, that's a great idea.
		Guys, and I think we're inviting, I invited the one guy who started this on the show.
		I sent him an email.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that will devastate them.
		And again, you can do this cheaply now, because at prisonplanet.tv, you can download DivX copies that play on almost all the new DVD players, and put the film in pretty good quality.
		It's not DVD quality, but it's close.
		You can blow up on the screen, it looks, you know, it's nice.
		It's not crystal clear like the, you know, high quality DVD folks can get, but point is, you can burn them to disk.
		Those things cost like 20 cents a piece.
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		And put them in paper sleeves.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so what's 10,000 times 20 cents?
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's $2,000?
		Is that right?
		Pretty good math.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're good.
		And then more fluoride, and you stopped being able to do that.
		Okay, I was wrong.
		I knew I was going from memory.
		Just 53% say capitalism is better than socialism, so 47% I just need to find the poll, because I'm reading it wrong.
		The point is, only 53%, that's the headline, say capitalism better than socialism.
		That's because they're being manipulated about what socialism really means.
rob dew ▲ ● ▼		That's probably the people that just have jobs.
		53%.
		Anyway, also the hostage dies as French attacks Somali pirates.
		This isn't the same ship that we were talking about, but...
		A French hostage and two pirates died Friday in a rescue operation off Somali's coastline, the French President's office in Paris said Friday.
		Four hostages, including a child, were freed from the hijacked yacht after almost a week in captivity, Nicolas Sarkozy's office said.
		So they decided to move in when pirates refused their offers and one hostage died and they killed two pirates.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So things are getting out of control.
		Okay, thank you so much, Rob.
		Do keep picking New World or Hiney there.
		Okay, who's up next here, John?
		Who should I go to next?
		Daniel in Alabama, sir.
		Welcome.
		He's listening to his radio.
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I'm here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hey, how you doing?
unidentified		I'm doing all right, sir.
		First, I want to say God bless you and thank you for all your hard work.
		The one thing I wanted to touch on, you're talking about gun control, Holder and Pelosi and all of them.
		They've got another ploy.
		I don't know how it is in other parts of the country, but I know down here it's getting hard as toenails to get ammunition.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Well, see, they put all these rules and harassment with regulators on the ammo companies and the military has been stockpiling and hoarding way over the amount they need.
		That is confirmed.
		And the military historically would always sell the brass.
		I was reading a Liberty Hill blog and they were talking about how Congress had shut all that down.
		millimeter to the major ammo companies they've now under order of obama refused to sell the millions and millions of rounds a month to uh... will be casings to complete the entire cartridge to in a liberty hill um...
unidentified		blog and they were talking about how congress had shot all that down i don't believe that i'm going to tell you why appear at the local hallmark my daughter one day some target shooting issues out of shells for her twenty-two and And they had told us they were going to get in a big shipment.
		And then three days before the shipment was supposed to come in, they tell us they cancelled it.
		I mean, it's getting that bad, you can't even get shells for a 22 down here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know, and they've been denying, denying, denying.
		They go, we don't want your guns, and I've seen the YouTube clip.
		We're trying to find it earlier and couldn't.
		Somebody emailed us.
		This is what he says word for word.
		He says, listen, we're not going to ban all your guns overnight.
		We're going to do it in steps, and we have a right under the Second Amendment to restrict your gun ownership.
		That's what it means.
		I mean, I've got the video.
		I've seen it of him saying that, but regardless, we have We have the state law he tried to pass in Illinois to ban all handguns.
		And he supported the D.C.
		gun ban for total ban of citizens.
		And now they've introduced the bills.
		And now Pelosi says they want national registration.
		That means a fine and a fee every year to have your gun.
		It's really a fine.
		And that you've got to go through federal licensing and it turns a right into a privilege.
		They are now pushing it!
unidentified		Another point I wanted to make, because I don't want to hold you long.
		I know there's got to be other callers because they need forever to get through.
		But what I also wanted to say was that, you know, people don't believe that the U.N. is involved in all this.
		I have it on good authority because I saw this with my own eyes.
		Our own national and state parks have been deeded over to the U.N.
		They don't even belong to us anymore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sir, that's Executive Order 12,986.
		I made my first film in 97 about that.
		America destroyed by design.
		And the U.N.
		came to the Kentucky legislature and told them under IMF World Bank rules that they basically were under their control.
		And the legislature said no and kicked them out.
		But now they admit, I'm sure it's been confirmed, China's demanded our lands and roads.
		for collateral on the debt, and it just came in today, that was in my stack.
		Congress did pass the bill to accompany Bush's executive order of last year to hand all the infrastructure, including the roads, over to the foreigners.
		They do this in third world nations.
		Here it is, Senate votes to end moratorium and sell off our highways to foreign toll operators.
		Bill's now going to the House.
		And this is out of the Texas Senate.
		I got another one of the Feds.
		Voted 29-2 in favor of reauthorizing private toll contracts that essentially sell our highways to the highest bidder.
		So there you go.
		I appreciate your call, sir.
		Yeah, and again, it's all about lying with these criminals.
		They came out two months ago and said, so people shut up at the legislative session they had, they said, look, Trans-Texas Corridor and NAFTA Highway is dead.
		AP headline.
		And then three paragraphs down.
		In fact, pull that up.
		Trans-Texas Corridor is dead.
		Dozens of publications have similar headlines.
		And then a couple paragraphs down, it says, but they're going to break the project up into subgroups and just give it new names.
		The whole thing continues.
		And then in Indiana, Texas, New Jersey, Florida, they'll take a roads that say is worth $30 billion over the next 50 years in the lease.
		They'll say, $1 billion, you get it.
		And then they run a scam where they then use taxpayer money to actually upkeep the roads, and the bankers give nothing.
		Yeah, look at this.
		Trans-Texas Corridor is dead.
		Dallas Morning News.
		Click on it.
		Put it up on screen for me.
		I can read it from here.
		Dallas Morning News is loading right now on screen, and when it loads, I will, uh, there it is, loading up for everyone.
		Hey Alex, how you doing?
		was a Coles ad.
		But anyway, let's go back to your calls.
		Oh, boy.
		I've got to do nothing but take calls this Sunday or something.
		I'm out of control.
		Bill in Connecticut.
		Bill, you're on the air.
		Go ahead.
bill in connecticut ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Alex.
bill in connecticut ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Good, sir.
bill in connecticut ▲ ● ▼		And how does it feel to be Sarah Connor?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean Sarah Connor?
bill in connecticut ▲ ● ▼		From the Terminator.
		You're out there trying to fight the whole thing, and it's great.
		I love it.
		I love listening to everything you've got going on here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, except I can't have a baby that will do it in the future.
		It's all of us out there, Sarah Connor, but we're not waiting for the Terminators to land.
		They're here.
bill in connecticut ▲ ● ▼		I got you on that.
		Hey, listen, several things.
		I was trying to reach you the other day.
		I hope you guys got it.
		When they were talking about the whole thing with the electric grid.
		That cyber thing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, where they said they've got to control the web and be able to shut it off.
bill in connecticut ▲ ● ▼		That's the legislation, but I tried to email you the link because I couldn't believe this.
		You were on there and I was trying to call in.
		I'm a stockbroker of 22 years.
		I've been working on Wall Street for 22 years.
		At any rate, on CNBC at 12.04pm, They turn around and all of a sudden there's a flash.
		Cyber spies are in the works from either China or Russia to shut down the electric grid.
		You know, this is all in line with Rockefeller's legislation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I did see it, and they're saying that China and Russia are doing it through the internet, and so he says we must get rid of the internet.
		That's a quote from Jay Rockefeller because of this.
		And again, right as this bill is introduced, right as they're taking the web over, Mother Jones admits it, so they can kill it in their own words for our safety, the Chinese and Russians attack.
bill in connecticut ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it makes me sick because I've never believed any of this stuff to tell you the truth.
		I mean, this last July, a year ago July, I went down to Washington, D.C.
		and saw Ron Paul.
		I went down and did the march down there.
		And, you know, none of that got on the air.
		But that was pretty interesting.
		But one of the things I thought was amazing was back in, you know, September 11th when that took place.
		I worked at 1 Penn Plaza.
		I was up on the 41st floor.
		I watched the whole thing from my office.
		I couldn't believe what I saw.
		And, you know, it was like, for me, I was sitting there going, you know, I can't believe this.
		I mean, I'm walking out of the office at 11 o'clock.
		I was the last one to leave the building.
		Pushed the elevator button, and I gotta tell you, this thought popped into my head.
		And the thought was basically, here, you know, Israel's got the United States in its back pocket now.
		And that was back then.
		You know?
		So I was just tripped out.
		I mean, this whole thing going forward.
		And one of the other things I wanted to mention was that, you know, this whole thing with the CDOs and the collapse of the financial system that we've been witnessing here.
		I mean, you know, 22 years ago, Michael Milliken created, you know, junk bonds.
		And the junk bonds that he created 22 years ago literally You know, wiped out the savings and loans, the thrift, the insurance companies, etc., etc., all the way up and took the market down from 87 to 91.
		This stuff that's going on today, it's the same thing.
		It's no different.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, and by engaging in the financial terrorism, saying we were going to have a depression, that destroyed confidence and then hit all the legitimate real stocks, so they can depress it and suck it up, and they write white papers about how they do this.
bill in connecticut ▲ ● ▼		What's happening here now, Alex, is that, if you go back to Michael Milken, okay, to me, that was like a test balloon.
		You know, it was like, here, let's see if this works.
		You know, let's throw this out there, let's see if this works.
		And they thought that it did work, and now it's like, you know, 22 years later, they turn around and say, okay, here, we're going to come up with these CDOs, CDSs, etc., etc., etc.
		We're going to sell them all around the world, and basically what that is, is I don't know if you're familiar with the collateralized mortgage obligation, but the bottom line is that what these guys would do is they take a loan, and then they break it up into various different pieces, or what's known as tranches.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they claim it has value, and they claim it's certified, and sell it as an asset when it's a debt.
bill in connecticut ▲ ● ▼		Imagine this.
		What they did, they went another step further.
		Now they turn around and they do fractional banking on all these assets.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, I know.
bill in connecticut ▲ ● ▼		They sell them, repackage them, sell them, repackage them, sell them, repackage them, sell them, repackage them, over and over and over again.
		So you're not talking about, you know, a $1 trillion problem, a $12 trillion problem.
		Some of the numbers I've seen are like a quadrillion and a half dollars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, that's what the experts we've talked to have said, because they would leverage banks and insurance companies and everybody engaging in fractional reserve banking, and create new banks with seed money from that, and then they would leverage, leverage, leverage, leverage, leverage seven times, and then leverage, leverage, leverage, and create another bank, and then leverage, leverage, leverage, leverage, and then they buy up the planet and then say, you're our slaves now!
		SWAT teams!
		They're our slaves!
		And the cops go, that's right!
		Bankers say they have the money.
		Good to hear from you, sir.
		Really appreciate it, Bill.
		Let's talk to Matt in Texas.
		Matt, you're on the air.
		Welcome.
unidentified		Who again?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Matt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the show.
unidentified		All right.
		Okay.
		I had a question.
		You know, the tea parties and everything.
		Well, I've gotten into that a little.
		We call ours Americans for Integrity and Government.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that sounds evil.
unidentified		That sounds evil?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm being sarcastic.
		Oh, yeah.
		Freedom.
		Integrity.
		Oh, my God.
		The government doesn't like that.
unidentified		But, you know, we are so far behind in education, I think, in what we know.
		As far as, you know, Republican, Democrat, we're pitted against each other and I just I'm kind of, I'd like to be able to offer a way to be educated and take action at the same time.
		That's what we want to do.
		And these people, I would say most of them are Republicans, but we're trying not to be a Republican.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree, that's healthy.
		Well, I mean, you know, it was mostly Democrats against Bush and now it's mostly Republicans against Obama.
		It's the partisanship in its very nature.
		But we've got to, that's what the Obama deception does, is it shows you they're all paid for.
		We've got to arrest the bankers.
		That's the key.
		You want a solution?
		Arrest the crooks.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Obama's already fudging.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		that number again 888 51 eat free a little knowledge makes starvation impossible i'm very thankful to all the listeners tuning in and hearing all the guests the information also putting up with me he will oh man has invented his You know, I'm normally been a lot calmer the last few months on air.
		But I'm kind of a loser in ways.
		I go back and forth smoking cigarettes, not smoking cigarettes.
		And the problem is, every time I quit smoking cigarettes and start really exercising a lot, I get crazed.
		Even more than normal.
		So I've been like that lately.
		I'm gonna go jogging right now when I get off air to hopefully settle down.
		So that's one reason I've been a little bit more obnoxious lately this week.
		But I know it's made for interesting radio listening.
		But, you know, this stuff is so real, folks.
		It's hard to get your mind around.
		It's hard to deal with.
		I'm going to take a few final calls.
		I'm tempted to go into overdrive, just so we can take all the calls that are here.
		But I'm not going to do it.
		We'll be back this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m., and of course back on Monday.
		And remember, this show grows because you spread the word about it.
		And as we reach more people...
		As we educate more people, we have a better chance of bringing these criminals to justice.
		Again, it's very bold and criminal what the globalists are doing.
		And if we can just get the folks to realize they have power and that they have a chance to affect things, and that their interest is to stand up and say no, and get past the left-right distraction, we can fix this.
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		I'll take one more call.
		Should we go into overdrive?
		But then I gotta have them call the other numbers.
		We're in the other studio.
		And then, as we decouple from the mothership in Minneapolis-St.
		Paul, and we're just out of our little operation.
		But I wanna get to all these people.
		Uh, who's up next?
		Who was up next, John?
		Josh in North Carolina.
		Go ahead, sir.
unidentified		Hey, Alex.
william black ▲ ● ▼		Good to be speaking with you again.
unidentified		So, I have several things that are actually of very high importance on the list that I want to bring up.
		I think I'm going to start off with the first being the NIAC document, which has been posted to the Prison Planet Forum by one of the moderators known as Anti-Illuminati.
		Now, being that... Well, I mean, we have the MIAC report, and we... Not MIAC, not in M, N. The National The N.A.S.
		Information Architecture Committee.
		Oh, okay.
		No.
		Okay.
william black ▲ ● ▼		This report is the exact detailed report of how they integrated the DOD's systems directly with the FAA.
unidentified		Okay?
		So that it went from being a one-way communication terminal in which they could only pull data to being able to push data.
		The culmination of this project And the sheer importance of this was demonstrated in Loose Change 2nd Edition when NASA flies that jet by remote control over ILS, and after landing it and taking it off, Um, is able to then use this system to completely get rid of all of the security and safety mechanisms in place in ILS to crash the planes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me stop you.
		Yes, I was aware.
		Remember when Bush was in a press conference in New York?
		And he says, hey, don't worry, no more hijackers.
		We got a remote control system that'll be able to, we'll be able to stop the planes.
		And he literally, the guy by him grabs his arm and he's like, stop it, puppet.
		And Bush is like, oh, excuse me, I'm a yes master.
		Somebody's got to find that footage.
		I was taping it.
		I've got it around here.
		It happened like the day after 9-11.
		Look, we're out of time, ladies and gentlemen.
		Retransmission, the latest on the pirates and the confrontation with the Navy going on.
		We had a top expert, Mr. Black, on the economy and, of course, Bob Chapman.
		Retransmission now, Infowars.com.
unidentified		Thank you for listening to GCN.
unidentified		Visit GCNlive.com today. .
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