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alex jones
Here's the headline, here is the New York Times, a new world order, a world in need of a new order.
Again, they create the crisis, they offer the solution.
The Times of London reports that G20 summit Europeans demand threatens to wreck deals.
They're acting like there's a fight going on here.
They demand that the global government have strong controls and global taxation systems so no one can escape high taxes, regulation, control of banking, businesses, everything.
And we've got a clip I'm going to play later.
And get Economist George Humphrey's take on it, where we have Tim Geithner, who doesn't pay us taxes, as the head of the Treasury, telling CBS News That, oh yeah, we're going to go after other corporations and companies, not just the head of GM.
So, I mean, if that isn't tyranny, I don't know what it is.
Where they say, you do what the government says or we'll order you to step down.
No judge, no jury, no grand jury, no court order, just the president says so.
That's dictatorship.
So you let the foreign banks take over your industry.
You hand everything over.
This is what the IMF and World Bank do in third world countries they're in control of.
And just a really huge story that came out yesterday.
Washington Post, Senate legislation would federalize cyber security.
Everything's being seized.
Rules for private networks also proposed.
Now, this bill's been out for a few weeks.
This is why the head of cyber security resigned.
Three weeks ago, this was the head of the program for the federal government, said this is a Pentagon takeover of all private industry involved with computers.
With how computers are built, the back doors in them, how everything operates.
He said a threat to democracy.
You mean a threat to the free republic.
Senate legislation would federalize cyber security.
Now, this also brings in federal funds, just like they did with the 96 Telecommunications Act, to put NSA snooping floors, whole floors, in all major telecommunications companies so the internet all runs through them already.
This is so they have back doors into all the hubs to shut the web down, and that's what the Pentagon admits they're drilling for.
And what they're going to do is, say China did it, Shut down the web, then relaunch it as Internet 2 with total controls.
And you watch, that's a big false flag terror attack, a financial and free speech attack they're planning to launch.
And I've done the analysis on that.
Here's UPI, U.S.
Cyber Security headquits, citing growing role of spy agencies.
For those watching on the Internet, I apologize.
My printer ink was running out when I printed this one, so it's hard to read there on screen.
In fact, guys, just pull this up.
Just Google U.S.
Cyber Security Chief Quits and we'll just punch that up from the web itself.
That's United Press International.
You'll get AP Reuters, too, when you do that.
And we're trying to get him on the show, but...
So people say, oh, we don't see any whistleblowers on this takeover, like you say, Alex.
That's all we see.
Fox Fallon refused to attack Iran and refused to let Dick Cheney have Navy SEALs attack their ships, acting like Iran did it.
Source MSNBC, New Yorker Magazine.
And Fox Fallon, the head of CENTCOM, quit.
We'd already be in World War III, folks.
It is the whistleblowers.
We've had NSA whistleblowers come out and say they listen to Americans having phone sex and sit around the NSA laughing.
And now over 70% of phone and internet security has been handed out to private security firms owned and run by people like felon Admiral Poindexter, the Total Information Awareness Network.
So most of it's being done by private groups now.
It says the official in charge of coordinating U.S.
government cybersecurity operations has quit.
Saying, expanding control of the National Security Agency over the nation's computer security poses threats to our democratic process.
Even from a security standpoint, Rob Breckstrom, the head of the Department of Homeland Security's National Cyber Security Center, told United Press International, it is unwise to hand over security of all government networks to a single organization.
Well, yeah, it's dictatorship.
But then it goes on with the new bill, and he talks about the private takeover, total takeover of everything!
They've announced Senator Rockefeller, Jay Rockefeller, went on TV last week and said, if we'd be better off without the web, we've got to get rid of it.
New York Times says, we've got to get rid of the old Internet, have Internet 2, where you have a sub-domain on somebody else's government site or private industry.
50 corporations get it, 50 universities and 50 agencies.
That's Internet 2.
And then you'll have 150 domains for each nation, you'll have a sub-account, and they'll have rules and say you can't post.
This is openly, publicly stated.
This is Internet 2, and they're going to end that neutrality, start taxing the web.
It's already happening.
This is it.
Stated.
And here's the bill.
Senate legislation with federalized cyber security.
It says over private industry.
I mean, you can go read it for yourself.
They just tell you how great it is, though.
People say, well, why do you use mainstream news?
Well, a lot of times they tell the truth.
They just spin it.
They're admitting what they're doing here.
They just say it's a good idea to keep it safe from China.
So you understand folks, they're openly saying they want to shut down the web, how terrible it is, the newspapers are imploding, the establishment is losing all credibility.
They have to shut it down.
And believe me, when they set off a nuke or release smallpox or whatever these jackasses are planning, you better believe that they're going after the web first and they're going to claim that China or Russia did it.
Meanwhile, clear evidence that the computer cables to Russia and the Middle East and places keep getting cut by deep submersibles, and only Russia, England, France, and a few other countries have.
So they're busy trying to chop those as well.
Here's the Geithner on ousting CEOs, reviving economy.
We're going to get into that.
Here is an important story.
Deep solar minimum And it says the sunspot cycle 1995 to present.
And if you go up to NASA's website, for some reason our one on Infowars.com, we posted this but it links to the wrong thing.
It links to Bilderberg stories.
We need to get that fixed.
Deep solar minimum.
Now you can see the 12-year sun cycle.
And the highest sun cycle on record Well, it's right here.
You can click on it and look at the graph going back for over 60 years with scientific, very high-tech scientific instruments.
Now this is in 2000, 2001, the super peak, global warming throughout the solar system.
And then over here, You can see where we currently are down there in the dip, 2009.
And if you see that, there is almost no solar activity.
Look at the last dip in the cycle in 1997.
Look how much higher sun activity was at the last low point.
I mean, this is a record low point.
The sun is putting off no solar flares right now.
They appear as sun spots to the naked eye, giant Coriolis ejections.
Hundreds of times the size of the planet Earth that shoot out, that disrupt satellites, all sorts of things.
There you have it.
Now, when is it set to peak again?
2012.
Isn't that interesting?
Everything's 2012.
I don't put much stock in that, but a lot of folks do.
Look at that.
That's from NASA, and they've got a bunch of other graphs in here showing what's happening with that on that front.
You know, I mentioned this yesterday, but it really needs to be covered again.
And that is a Bloomberg article.
It was everywhere else.
Three days before, we posted a George Washington blog spot story.
The guy does great research, great analysis.
And he showed the Congressional Budget Office's own numbers that the current spending was approaching the size of the gross domestic product of the United States.
Just the bailout.
He gave a number of $11 trillion and two days later it came out, oh no, the government admits it's worse than that.
It's $12.8 trillion, $200 billion short of the entire GDP of the country.
But I noticed the comments of the trolls under it were, that's a lie, he's making this up, it's not that big.
And then now it's all admitted.
Just denial, denial, denial, denial.
I had that story here in my stack.
It doesn't matter.
I covered it yesterday.
It's just there is so much going on.
We posted a story yesterday.
John Yoo arrested, and we documented the fact that they have not arrested him, that that was a rumor.
But what is not a rumor is that he has been indicted along with eleven others in Spain for war crimes and crimes against humanity for writing memos ordering the torture of children.
So I thought I would let you know that.
That's where that rumor came from and we tried to whack-a-mole and try to stop that rumor, but of course we're not that influential, so who knows what will happen with that.
Another White House would-be official is in trouble for not paying back taxes.
Sebalenis, if I'm pronouncing it right, held the name of Secretary nominee Kathleen Sebales, recently corrected three years of tax returns and paid more than $7,000 back after finding unintentional errors.
Now see, that's nothing compared to all the other ones in the administration where it's hundreds of thousands of dollars, free limos, not paying taxes period like Geithner and saying he didn't have to and then fighting it.
Another story here out of the Associated Press.
Promises, promises.
Obama's tax pledge goes up in smoke.
And it talks about how he promised no new taxes of any type except if you made over $125,000 a year.
Every time I say that I get emails.
They go, it's $250,000!
With a couple.
That's $125,000.
I get emails.
They go, it's 250 with a couple.
That's 125,000.
Anybody making that or more?
And that's your lower middle class, folks, in the real scale of things.
And that's who actually buys things from you locally.
But don't worry, the elite will get rid of that for you and see how you're doing out there poor.
One of President Barack Obama's campaign pledges on taxes went up in puffs of smoke Wednesday.
The largest increase in tobacco taxes took effect despite Obama's promise not to raise sales taxes on any kind of families earning under $250,000 or individuals under $200,000.
This is the one tax that disproportionately affects the poor, and it goes on.
Oh, that's okay, he broke his promise on cigarettes.
No.
They're raising all these different taxes, and they're getting rid of the loopholes, as they call them.
It's really just tax write-offs for your house, or for your mortgage deduction, or for education.
They're saying they're getting hundreds of deductions.
So, and that's on everybody.
Just massive, massive tax increases on everybody, and it all goes, not to the nation, but to foreign bankers.
Your call, straight ahead.
More news, straight ahead.
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alex jones
In the New World Order's war against humanity, Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.
barack obama
We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
alex jones
The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
Well, Obama's already fudging.
unidentified
He's fudged since day one in this election.
webster tarpley
If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascism.
alex jones
It's not about left or right.
It's about a one world government.
This film documents who Obama works for, the lies he is told, and his real agenda.
Get your copy of The Obama Deception today at InfoWars.com or download it in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.
The Obama Deception.
The people strike back.
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alex jones
Coming up, when George Humper gets here in studio, I'm going to break down the latest G20 news.
I've got a big stack of it here.
They have agreed on the regulatory changes to the world system.
A new global regulator over all the nations, in the words of Time Magazine in an article titled The New World Order, to knock the heads of the American people, to punish us.
Taxes will be paid directly to them, and they've wanted a 500 million dollar deal, that's not enough.
It is a trillion and a half dollars of tax money to be given from the American people and the people of Europe to the private banks to set up their new global super currency.
That's Reuters.
I've also got MSNBC right here.
I mean, it's all happening, ladies and gentlemen.
It's all happening in our face.
Let's go ahead and talk to Maureen in Virginia.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, how are you?
I'm all right.
I've got something.
First of all, thank you for everything you do.
Now, so much that is said absolutely sounds scary.
We need to remember we serve the Most High God.
These other idiots are serving Satan.
He only took one-third of the angels with him.
It's going to be a two-against-one fight.
Go read chapters 1, 2, and 3 of Hebrews and just see.
We are told That they are all ministering spirits sent forth to minister to the heirs of salvation.
That is us.
And I put a website up, citiesforrefuge.info, and God has shown us that he is setting up cities of refuge, and I know so many people have been called to different places to set up places for other people to go to when things get bad.
alex jones
Well, I mean, I agree that this is a fight against good and evil, and we need to ask God for his guidance and help.
My problem is most of the Christian churches and other religions have been bought off by the government, by the World Council of Churches, by the UN, and they're telling people, stand down, go to the FEMA camps, you know, that tyranny is good, and that Romans 13, out of context, Hitler's favorite Bible passage.
So, you know, the solution is in the church, but it's also, the problem is the phony church.
I appreciate your call.
Chris in Florida.
Chris, you're on the air.
chris in florida
Yeah, go on YouTube and just see a parody of the Queen.
You'll really enjoy it.
From modern-day minstrels called Basements of Jax.
J-A-X-X.
Called You Don't Know Me, letter you don't know me.
And it's funny how the Queen goes around abusing her own servants in the public after she goes on the run.
But there's a quote, it's my little tribute to liberals to have it come out on 666 end quote.
She's quoted a saying in USA Today and she's talking about her Her book, which I'm sure was full of very pressing matters, Ann Coulter, the quick change agent you were talking about, recently wrote a book entitled Godless, the Church of Liberalism, released on 6-6-2006.
And so I also wanted to ask you regarding Obama, were you aware that he also, one of his broken promises was that his
His $3,000 tax cut that he promised to businesses if they were to hire any new employees, and it's not in the stimulus bill, and other indicators that show that his acts, that he is on the side of the bankers, suggesting that the 401k and the IRA participation should be mandatory if your employer offers it.
And it's kind of like Bush Jr.' 's idea of investing the Social Security.
alex jones
Yeah, make you give your money to a 401k that's given to the derivatives bankers to basically steal it.
I appreciate your call.
Speaking of bizarreness, this is up on InfoWars.com.
Kurt Nimoy did a story about it.
No, but it's mainstream news and he links to Queen Elizabeth's gift to Calderon, the President of Mexico.
Guess what he gave her?
George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four.
People think, oh, she's exposing the police state.
No, they're the ones putting in the cameras and the control grids that are doing all of this.
And so that's why Hillary says her favorite book is Nineteen Eighty-Four.
For them, it is a blueprint of control.
For them, it is a way to control society and to limit the language and to pass all these hate speech laws and to train the children to be spies on their parents.
Felipe Calderon gave the uh... well he gave the Queen of England a uh... marquee tray but the Queen gave Calderon a collector's edition of George R. Wells' dystopian novel 1984.
Calderon received the book as he bowed and scraped at Buckingham Palace.
On its face the gift presented to Calderon seems rather strange but when you think about it not really.
It's a novel, Oceania, has a strict social class arrangement With the inner party at the top, 2% of the population representing the big brother.
The outer party of bureaucrats in the middle and the large number of proles at the bottom.
The inner party believes that the proles are inferior and expendable and strives to make certain they live in misery.
We're on the march, the empire's on the run.
who lives under the grinding poverty while a small predatory and parasitical class, represented by Calderon, steals the country's wealth.
And the article goes on.
Great writer.
Curt Nemo at Infowars.com.
George Humphrey, in studio, economist, author, filmmaker, good friend of mine.
Stay with us.
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In the New World Order's war against humanity, Barack Obama is the tip of the spear.
barack obama
We've got to give them a stake in creating the kind of world order that I think all of us would like to secure.
alex jones
The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
Well, Obama's already fudging.
unidentified
He's fudged since day one of this election.
webster tarpley
If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
alex jones
It's not about left or right.
It's about a one world government.
This film documents who Obama works for, the lies he is told, and his real agenda.
Get your copy of The Obama Deception today at InfoWars.com or download it in super high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv.
The Obama Deception.
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alex jones
Well, I've got George Humphrey, my good friend, in studio with us.
He is an economist, a very successful businessman, author, lecturer, filmmaker, and former Austin City Councilman.
And back when I was first waking up in, like, 94, 95, I was involved in politics a little bit in Austin.
I would run into George Humphrey, and he was talking about the New World Order and all this stuff, and I'd read some books about it.
So he was instrumental in a lot of my formation of my ideas as well and here we are 14 years, well that'd be 16 years later, but you know here we are 14 years after I got on air and he's got his own local TV show he does from time to time, very busy man, George Humphrey, and today we're going to leave and go do more interviews with him for the second Obama film.
I haven't decided on the name yet, I'm very close and because Obama Deception has been so successful and so up to date, it's actually worse than we thought with the They've introduced another bill for compulsory service, so I'm going to go down the list with you, George, just on issue after issue.
Next hour, we're going to put the phones up for all of your calls.
But, George, you were ranting during the break, raving, and I appreciate the rave reviews.
You're in the Obama deception, but you're in a few of my other films.
You said they were good, but I didn't get this excited, so you're not just saying it's good because you're in it.
Break down the film like you were breaking down for me during the break.
george humphrey
Well, Alex, I don't rant that much, but I'll tell you what.
We had a bunch of people over at my house last night.
And to a person, everybody was totally, totally impressed.
And I have been in some of your other films, and your other films have been excellent and positive and good information.
And in my opinion, the presentation, the professionalism on this, the people who were the guests, Celente, KRS, unbelievable.
And if you have not downloaded this, or more importantly, buy some copies from Alex.
Because as you buy the copies from Alex, then he can do more stuff.
unidentified
And this is a big deal, friends.
george humphrey
And it's hard to be objective about a film that I'm in, and I'm in it for maybe six or seven minutes.
And it was my total, complete honor to be of service to this film.
What we are facing right now is so, so much bigger and coming at us so much faster than 98% of the patriots in this country have any idea about.
And I am just so pleased that I have been of help and that you have been a good friend of mine for so long.
And I'll tell you what.
The game's on, friends.
The game is on.
It's not about ten years from now.
It's not about 2012.
It's about right now.
And the choice is whether you're going to go down the path of the New World Order, whether you're going to go down the path of fear, whether you're going to go down the path of materialism, or whether you're going to make the choice and realize that you and every single one of you, black, white, Hispanic, Oriental, is that we're all part of God's creation and that we can all make things better.
And if we see this thing with clear eyes and a full heart, Then we can have some love in our hearts and realize that we don't have to go to this materialistic gulag that is being prepared for us.
And I'll tell you what, our opponents right now, people like Obama, and remember, Obama is only a puppet.
He is a puppet.
It's not about Obama.
It's about something much bigger, just like it wasn't about George Bush, because it's about something much, much bigger.
It is so good to be in body right now.
It is so wonderful to have this freedom to be able to speak about this issue, and there is no greater time to be alive and speak about freedom, to speak about love, to speak about God, to speak about the Republic.
I love this country, and I'll tell you what, I know that if you're listening to this, you do too.
So listen to what Alex has to say, and we're going to give you a whole, whole bunch of information today.
alex jones
I've got a lot of questions for you.
We're also taping for the film, the new Obama film, while you're in studio with us right now.
There's a whole host of things going on.
I've been looking around for it.
I covered it yesterday, and then I saw it back in my stack.
Well, you guys in there, Google Bloomberg 12.8 trillion, and it is a Bloomberg article about how the real number now is $12.8 trillion approaching the gross domestic product of the nation.
Since you're an economist and a successful one at that, I want to get your breakdown of what's happening.
But first, they have announced that it's going to be a trillion and a half bucks for the bankers, but that's really the sideshow.
As Dick Morris said on Fox News on Monday night, shockingly, he said, oh, the new world order is real, the conspiracy theorists were right, there's a global government where banks will rule the United States and the rest of the planet.
And that they're talking about the money on one level, but they just issued that.
The real issue is the regulatory power.
This quote, bank of the world that will rule everything.
Can you, in your own words, speak to all of that and why suddenly we're seeing mainstream news have to admit we were right about all this?
george humphrey
Well, clearly money has always been the strings of the puppeteers on the slaves.
And the people, whether we call them the Illuminati, the black hats, the oligarchy, the plutocracy, the rascals, whatever we want to call these people who are living in separation consciousness, they have used fiat currency to As a manipulation.
It's not money that they're after.
It's what they're after is power.
Cold, ruthless, total power.
And they've been planning this for a long, long time.
Incrementally, since the days of Weishauf.
And now they're in their final chapter.
And the amount of money that you are talking about, and that is truly out there, most Americans think that this bailout, if they pay any attention, is three, maybe four trillion dollars.
They don't have any idea what that, most people don't know what that really means.
Three or four trillion dollars is an amount that staggers the mind.
Staggers the mind.
But however, the reality is, is that the Federal Reserve, with no accounting, with no supervision, is putting out another eight and a half to ten trillion dollars so far.
They are not informing Congress or the people of this country where that money is going.
And so the real number that is part of this, quote, bailout, and let's just get straight, this is not a bailout.
This is financial terrorism.
This is not a bailout.
This is financial terrorism.
And because Adam Weishauf, when they started the Illuminati, their motto was, out of chaos is order.
Out of chaos is order.
And when they went in to create the French Revolution, they created this chaos, the murders, blood was running in the street, they destroyed the economy so that they could get power.
And they're doing the exact same thing here in the United States.
This wonderful, wonderful nation is being destroyed, is destroyed, I shouldn't say is being, it is destroyed economically by the Federal Reserve, by the Treasury, And by these absolute rascals that are creating the greatest and most significant transfer of wealth in the history, not just of our country, but in all of Occidental history.
The middle class, the productive peoples of this country, Black, White, Hispanic, Oriental, Christian, Jewish, the whole group, we're all being robbed as we speak.
You cannot create wealth by creating more debt.
You cannot create wealth by robbing and hindering the people who create the wealth.
The state cannot, by definition, cannot create wealth.
And the amazing thing is, is that 98% of this bailout money is going to financial institutions.
Where, oh where, oh where, is it in the Constitution of the United States that the taxpayers of the United States should bail out corrupt Failing and wrong financial institutions.
The very institutions that created and profited by this, starting in 1998 with this ending of the Glass-Steagall Act, and they took not millions, not billions, but trillions and trillions of dollars from the people, from the economy, Between 98 and now.
And these very same people who planned this, who participated in this, are now getting the bailouts from the people of this country.
That means you and me, your family and your friends.
And that can only mean one thing.
Extremely high taxes coming at us.
More government interference.
And eventually, mass inflation.
Now, we're going to be in a significant debt deflationary period for a longer period of time than most people think.
This bailout doesn't even come close.
Let me repeat, this bailout doesn't even come close to sopping up these toxic derivatives.
You know, and nobody really knows the exact number of the toxic derivatives out there.
Whether it's $300 trillion, whether it's $500 trillion, or whether it's $800 or $900 trillion.
It really doesn't make any difference.
Because the problem cannot be fixed.
This bailout money doesn't even pay the interest.
on these toxic derivatives.
Friends, the game's all over.
Using the rules of the Federal Reserve, Fractional Reserve Banking, fiat currency, the game was fixed many, many, many, many years ago.
But now we're at the endgame.
And most people don't even realize what fiat currency is.
They don't understand what fractional reserve banking is.
And most, many Americans, I'm sure that most people who are listening to this realize their founding fathers knew very, very clearly that to have a free nation is that we had to have our banking system controlled by the people, that we had to have a hard currency so that money had value.
Money had value, but the large bankers came in.
And they created fractional reserve banking.
They created fractional banking and fiat currency.
And since the beginning of this country, as I'm sure you've heard over and over again, has been the battle between the people and the populace who want to help the people of this country through a hard currency, through true money that has value, as opposed to the oligarchy, the small handful of people who control the strings and who make money a commodity.
It doesn't take a PhD or even a Masters or even a degree in economics to figure this out.
If you just take a few minutes, they are creating money out of thin air and then multiplying it and multiplying it and multiplying it.
And then they are able to take your collateral, your business, your home, your auto, take it as collateral, and then you have to pay interest to them.
It is the biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of this world.
And because it is unsustainable, we are at the endgame right now, and Brother Obama and all of his buddies, like Geithner and the others, are just cutting the necks Of all the good people, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, rich, poor, everybody.
And friends, this is what Alex and what other people have been sharing with you for the last 15 years.
And the time is right now.
And we can either see it with fear, or we can see it as a time of change, a time of shifting.
And if we organize, if we organize, we can turn this thing around.
alex jones
Well, that's very well said, George Humphrey Economist, here visiting with us today.
I've got a whole list of questions I want to go through with you.
We can do this on-air part of it, and then off-air later for the film I'm making.
They're going to be a big part of it.
It'll be a lot more than the six or seven minutes you're in the previous film, because this one's going to be a lot more of you and Tarpley in it.
Specifically, for people that don't understand fractional reserve banking, I mean, they know it's fiat, they know it's made out of nothing, but when we hear that When the public hears that trillions of dollars are being given to central banks, or that central banks are giving trillions of dollars to private banks, those private banks are the public component of the very same private bank, the Federal Reserve.
It's a consortium or a combine.
So they take our tax money to give their fiat value, they pay it to themselves, and to pay them our tax money, we then have to pay interest.
So we're not just paying in the money we give them for nothing, then we have to pay interest for the pleasure of giving them I mean, this is a Ponzi scheme of all Ponzi schemes to the power of infinity.
george humphrey
It's absolutely amazing.
And it's happening right out in front of us.
And they realize that they can do this because, as Adolf Hitler said, the bigger the lie, the easier it is to pull it off.
And this is right in front of us.
The Federal Reserve Board has the Treasury, orders the Treasury to print up, quote, money.
And the Treasury takes paper and ink and prints this stuff up, and then the Fed pays the Treasury about two and a half or three cents on the dollar.
And then they lend it to the Federal Reserve Regional Banks and then they lend it to the other banks and now they're not even doing that because they're starting to monetize the debt which we'll go into in a little bit.
But these banks get money from the Fed And then they can lend it out at a ten to one level.
So let's say that they get ten billion dollars so that they then can lend out a hundred or ninety million dollars.
Billion dollars.
And then when they get some of that money back... Start over on that.
alex jones
Start over on that.
george humphrey
Okay.
So let's say that a bank gets a hundred billion dollars from the Federal Reserve.
And then they start lending that out at a nine to one level.
So it's nine hundred billion dollars that they can lend out that's on their books.
But then they get the money back and they put that in their quote reserves and then they can lend that out again.
So their book value is not a hundred billion.
It's not nine hundred billion.
It's seventy two times the original amount that they have in.
And this all starts with nothing.
Paper and ink, and then they get the interest from the industries, from the small businesses, from the auto dealers, from the people cutting lawns, from you and me, that comes back.
And it is money out of thin air.
And the multiplication factors on this are so monstrous.
And the multiplication factors used to be much smaller.
It was still wrong then, but then they upped it, and upped it, and upped it, and upped it.
And now, for every dollar that comes into a private bank, they can multiply, if they do their work properly, by 72 times.
This is true insanity, considering that there is nothing there to begin with.
alex jones
And that's where derivatives come in.
They need to keep pumping the bubble so they can skim the money off the top and buy real assets.
And when it finally implodes, they leave us with the black hole of debt.
They run off with all the real assets and say, we'll save you.
We'll bring in a complete world tyranny and regulate every facet of your life and give you hundreds of new carbon taxes on everything you do.
This is how we're going to fix everything.
I mean, just amazing.
So let's talk about where this is going, what this is going to do, how this is going to end, when we get back with George Humphrey, economist, author, lecturer, former Austin City Council member, and most important, my good buddy, coming up.
He's in the current Obama deception, but he's also going to be in the new Obama film that's out July 4th.
Stay with us.
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The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
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George Humphrey with us until the end of the transmission today.
And I got a million questions for you, George.
So, we were getting into the point of explaining.
And I know most of the audience knows this, but your neighbors, your friends, your family, they just think the bankers screwed up, and, boy, we've got to give them all this money, and it's financial terrorism.
They say, give us all this power, or everything's going to end, everything's going to fall apart.
When they're all rubbing their hands together, laughing, giggling, writing white papers how they engineered it, laughing at how they're going to destroy the middle class.
I mean, this is how we knew all this was going to happen, because these guys all bragged about it.
We'd say, look at this book!
Look at this document!
They wrote it!
They're going to do this!
You know, wrote books about this 12 years ago.
And now it's all here.
And he said, the derivatives, the derivatives.
I mean, I remember listening to books on tape you made, you know, in 1998, driving around in my car, and hearing you talk about derivatives, derivatives, and you're an economist.
So they knew they were setting this up.
So let's go back to George.
Break down how this fiat system works and how it's going to end.
What they want to set up through making us dependent.
george humphrey
Well, the fiat system is a system of theft.
And it's been around for a long, long time.
And that's why in the Bible is that there are 17 references not against usury.
But the reality is, is that the central bankers realize that by using fiat currency is that they can create so-called money out of nothing.
They can create so-called money out of nothing.
And if they can convince the people that they have something of value, which they have done, and a fiat is simply means the declaration of the king or the president.
And so that's why we call it fiat currency.
And so what was done is that in 1913, with the creation of the Federal Reserve Banking Act, is the Federal Reserve was created.
And of course, all of you I'm sure are aware, the Federal Reserve is not federal, there's no reserves, and it is owned by European bankers for the most part.
It's never been accounted.
The GAO has never been able to come in and take a look at it.
And what they do is that they, and according to Greenspan, they are a completely independent agency that is above the law of the United States.
And Greenspan just said this last week on television.
It's just truly amazing.
And so what they do is that they order the Treasury to print up money.
Now money for them is just basically paper and ink.
Then they take this so-called money and lend it to the Federal Reserve regional banks in Dallas and New York and San Francisco and Denver and around the country.
And then they lend that money to the, quote, private banks, which at this time are becoming nationalized very, very quickly.
And so when they lend this money to the private banks is that they get a certain interest back.
But then the private banks can put that on their books.
And let's say that they borrow a billion dollars.
They can lend out ten billion dollars.
And then as the people start paying that money back, and let's say they pay that money back, then they can lend that out again at another percentage.
And so after a period of time, the bank that has borrowed one billion dollars, which is out of thin air in the first place, which is basically paper and ink,
has assets on their books of seventy two times so a bank that has borrowed one million dollars after let's say a year and a half or two years has up to seventy billion dollars on their books now clearly there's nothing there as far as real value however for all the many many thousands of people that they have lent the money to they have to pay back the principal
alex jones
Alright, stay there.
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All right, George Humphrey is George Humphrey is our guest.
Your calls are coming up at about the 20 after.
I have a lot of questions I want to go over with George.
So it's all fiat currency.
About 1.5% of all the fiat money they've got out there in zeros and ones and computers is physical paper money.
You've got people then who lose their houses, their cars, their lives for just made-up fiat, but it's a contract they've signed, so it's through contract fraud.
So this is a institutional fraud.
This is an institutional fraud that makes Madoff, who was one of the top guys in this, look like a choir boy.
George, I want to go through a whole section of important questions here, but we've just witnessed...
Well, I would call one of the most important dates in the march of world government, this world tyranny.
They're openly agreed today, 1.5 trillion for this new international body to issue their own monetized IMF World Bank super currency that the United States will now fully go under the control of this system as every other nation will.
They're calling it a world government.
They're saying and suddenly Yeti N. Davignon, in the EU Observer, gave an interview, this is up on InfoWars.com, and he bragged, it says, suddenly they're admitting world government, Bilderberg.
They say, oh, at a meeting in June in Europe, the Bilderberg Group, an informal club of leading politicians, businessmen, and thinkers, chaired by Mr. Davignon, could also improve understanding on future action, the same way it helped create the Euro in the 1990s, he said.
And it says, he goes on to say, when we were having debates on the Euro, people at Bilderberg events could explain why it was worth taking risk and others, for whom the formal policy was not believed in it yet, we were not obliged not to listen and had to stand up and come up with real arguments.
So, we've gotten some Bilderberg documents before where they admit they set up the Euro, but here they are admitting it.
This is the group behind the European Union, the American Union, North American Union, You know, all of these things that are happening.
So that's my question for you now, and then what will this system look like if they're successful?
Why now is Fox News and CNN coming out and saying, it is a world government, we will be ruled by a group of private bankers, but it's good.
Or some of the shows say, it might be bad.
You know, all these years, all these years they knew this, so what does it mean now to have them emerging and admitting it?
george humphrey
Well, quite clearly the G20 meeting that is taking place right now is the vortex of energy for the movement toward a total World Bank and thus, and very shortly, a world government.
They realize, the Illuminati realize, that with the impetus, with the momentum of the election of Barack Obama, And he is just one of the most amazing actors in the history of Western politics.
He's much ahead of Ronald Reagan, is that they have to act very, very quickly, because very, very quickly also, the people of this world are waking up to the reality of the facade and the deception of Obama and his administration.
And you and I have been aware of this for a long, long, long time, is that their tentacles are going out further and further and further, and that this G20 meeting is nothing more than creating a world bank right now.
Now if that happens, And the United States dollar no longer is the reserve currency of this world.
Katie, bar the door for all the families, for all the businesses, for all the people of the United States.
We have prospered for the last 50 years because the U.S.
dollar was the reserve currency.
And because of massive, massive greed, because of massive incompetence, because of theft, And because of every sort of shenanigans you can think of, the U.S.
Treasury and the Fed have completely and 100% debased not only the economy of this nation, but the retirements and the future, economic future for the people of this country.
This is really, really big stuff, friends.
And this situation is so, so much bigger.
than 99% of the people in this country understand.
alex jones
Well, the elite admit this is a world revolution, a sign of a dictatorship.
Let's come back, run through a laundry list of important questions I've got for you, then take calls for the balance of this transmission.
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alex jones
George, you've studied the New World Order, their own writings, their own statements.
What will life be like under the New World Order if they're able to get the full system in place, this global regulatory micromanaging system?
george humphrey
Wow, that's a big question Alex.
And it's one that is, we really don't know, but we do know this, that power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
This we know.
Now the question is, is whether our slave masters would be Liberals, in which they would just allow us to be and they would have full control of us, but they would cut off all of our freedoms and give us things like sports and entertainment to keep us occupied.
alex jones
By the way, as you know, they have open discussions about that in major globalist publications.
george humphrey
Absolutely.
Or whether they're going to be more tyrannical in which they have repeatedly said that they need to cull the population down to less than a billion.
That means that five out of every six people of this planet would be eliminated.
Now when you think about these concepts, They seem so far out.
How could somebody like Barack Obama, who seems to have such kind eyes, be part of this?
But all we have to do is go back in history, not 5,000 years or 2,000 years or even 500 years, but just in the last century.
When Stalin came in, he eliminated over 25 million people of his own nation.
He completely closed off the Ukraine and starved to death 14 million Russians because they weren't going along with his policies.
Mao Zedong, another very, very charismatic guy, comes in and promises a new way, a better life.
Five years later, 55 to 60 million educated and working Chinese people have been exterminated.
So to believe that this cannot happen is just denial.
Now that's why Alex is here, that's why I'm here, that's why you're listening.
My intention and my focus is not to let us go down that path.
An ounce of prevention, it's going to take a lot more of an ounce of prevention right now, is worth a pound of cure, but it's going to take the combined efforts of everyone
Not just Alex and myself or David Icke or whoever, but you, the people listening out there, to first get yourself informed and to realize the real severity, the real seriousness, the reality of this point of time in our world.
And all the prophecies for the last 4,000 years have pointed to this period of time.
Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Hopi Indians, Nostradamus, the whole group of people.
But it doesn't take a prophecy to understand of the incredible first economic, then political, then cultural danger or changes that are taking place.
Now if we react in fear, then we're going to go right down their path.
Because quite clearly, they have more money, they have more guns, they have more organization.
But we have the secret weapon up our sleeves.
And that is the universal truth.
That is what many of us call God.
Because God doesn't create junk.
And the universal creator of this planet doesn't want us to wipe ourselves out.
We don't need to go down this road.
And we have plenty of brain power.
We have plenty of courage.
We have plenty of ability to turn this thing around.
But we have to do it right now.
And it starts with correct information.
Then it takes a determination that you are going to stand up for what is right and just, and to connect with your friends, your family, your co-workers, to educate them.
And then it is to organize people.
And we have the Constitution, the Republic, history on our side.
We are not the bad guys in this situation.
alex jones
That's right.
The globalists have been able to take over Russia with no history of freedom, China and others.
It's going to be a lot tougher.
That's why they've moved slower.
They've incrementally tried to federalize the local areas.
They've tried to slowly twist us, and I don't see them getting away with this too easily.
Can you speak specifically to the issue that so many people before us and then today and what we've been doing for the last 15 years or so, you longer, the fact that we did read the globalist documents, we did warn people, the power of the fact that we planted those seeds, they're now sprouting.
There's never been such an awakening, and planting seeds now, people, some of them won't listen.
But as the next phase of what we say comes true, because we have their own blueprint, Then our credibility gets even greater, and that in that is going to be our victory.
It doesn't mean we're not going to go deep into the battle in the arena.
It doesn't mean a lot of us aren't going to make it through this.
It means that you have to understand this is part of destiny, humanity, a human choice, bigger than even the individual, in the whole development of the human species.
This is what makes us strong.
The wheat from the chaff, the gold from the lesser metals, This is the purification.
This is the great test.
This is the great culmination, the great battle, as humans prepare to become a Type 1 civilization, meaning survival of the species off planet.
As we prepare, you know, literally like a caterpillar about to turn into a butterfly, the globalists don't want that going to the next level.
george humphrey
Well, absolutely, Alex, and you say it so well, and quite clearly, this is a A situation that has been going on for a long, long time.
People such as George Washington, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Mr. Ford from the Ford Motor Company, Charles Lindbergh, John Kennedy, Barry Goldwater, all were very clear about the dangers of globalism and the New World Order.
And that's why our founding fathers, to a person, wrote about the decentralization of power, the keeping power in the states, and returning power to the individuals.
That's why we have the Bill of Rights.
And is our Constitution perfect?
No, but it's probably the best constitution and the best republic that has ever been created on this planet.
And I for one am 100% behind the concepts and the higher ideals of our republic.
Now the question is, is what are we going to do about this?
And the first thing is that we have to wake up.
There are clearly people out there, there are clearly these souls out there that have what I consider to be a vampire consciousness.
They believe that the only way that they are going to survive is by sucking the blood or the nutrition or the life force from others.
And it is actually that bizarre at one different level.
Now clearly, then there are the other people such as Alex and myself who realize that this universe is infinite.
There is infinite love.
There is infinite abundance.
There is infinite ability for all of us on this planet to live a healthy, A positive, meaningful life, if we work together with cooperation and under the rule of law.
Laws that are equal and just for all people, just like in the Republic.
And that is what we, we are on the side of real law.
The people who are in Washington, who have all the guns, all the money, are breaking the laws right in front of us.
Now, in the vampire consciousness, they also have a rule that they have to tell us what they're going to do before they do it.
And there was a movie about ten years ago called Wag the Dog, in which it showed about how President Clinton had to create a war to get out of a situation with his intern.
This movie was in the can six months before Bosnia or any of the other escapades took place.
They always, these people in the Illuminati, are under a very deep secret societies that have their own laws.
And they do tell us what they're going to do.
And Alex and others have read these things and we know what they want to do.
It is not just about money.
It's about power.
Let me repeat that again.
It's not just about money.
They're taking our money and they've got our money now.
Now it's about power.
Now the question is, is that they can only take our power is if we give it to them.
And clearly I and many, many other hundreds of thousands of people and maybe millions of people are becoming aware and saying, no, you're not going to do that.
This is my life.
This is my state.
This is my country.
This is my world.
And we're not going to play your games.
And friends, when I first became aware of this, it scared the heck out of me.
But then, as time went on, I found all these wonderful and vibrant new people.
People who were alive in their spirit, who had beautiful hearts, who were so much... Instead of just talking about, how about those Longhorns, or how about those Rangers, or how about, you know, whatever it was, all the dra... You know, and I'm a sports fan.
I'm a total sports junkie.
But there's bigger and more exciting things to talk about also.
And there is no better game in the world right now.
And I say game in a very fanciful way.
alex jones
It's life and death.
george humphrey
It's life and death.
This is a very serious situation.
alex jones
Well, that's what the British overlords in open books, they write, call how they play countries off against each other, how they control both parties, the manipulation.
They call it the great game.
george humphrey
Absolutely.
And it is a great game.
It's like a chessboard game to them.
Because for them, human life has no value.
Again, for them, most of the people who are in the epicenter of the Illuminati, the power elite, are basically atheists.
They are materialistic, secular atheists.
And I have a different point of view about life.
I believe that life is divine.
I believe it is spiritual, I believe it is loving, and I believe that there is purpose.
And every single person on this planet has a purpose and a reason for being here.
alex jones
I need you to take up that destiny to truly go to the next level.
You're not truly living until you do that.
We've got a break.
Come back.
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The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
Well, Obama's already fudging.
unidentified
He's fudged since day one in this election.
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If you have a demagogue with a fanatical mass movement of personality cultists who is imposing the program of a group of extreme bankers and finance oligarchs, that's fascist.
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Okay, Ravel, Nathan, Brian, Mark, Sean, and others are going to your calls right now.
Then folks will have to wait until the second Obama film comes out to hear all these questions.
I've got about 50 of them here for you, George.
We're going to rock it through after the show.
But Ravel in Pennsylvania, you are on the air.
unidentified
Welcome.
We went through this the last time I called.
alex jones
Oh yeah, I forgot to give George headphones.
Is there a pair there on the ground for you, George?
They must have run off with them after they had them plugged in.
Will somebody get George some headphones?
Okay, Ravel, go ahead and ask me a question while we're getting him headphones.
unidentified
Okay, the census, they're putting millions of dollars into refining the census, fencing us, because people are homeless and the foreigners, you know, whatever, immigrants, whatever, and they're trying, they said that they were going to take the stimulus money and take millions of dollars I have the complete answer for you since you asked the question.
alex jones
Yes, I know.
unidentified
While you're talking trillions of dollars, no one's going to notice a few million going into a census.
That might be a very huge deal.
alex jones
I have the complete answer for you since you asked the question.
Would you like me to tell you exactly what's going on?
Yeah.
Okay, well, your instincts are correct there.
Remember the big battle in 2000 when they said the census now isn't just how many people live in your house, but it's a 54 question deal and then one out of six families got a multi-hundred one saying, do you own firearms?
What type of toilet do you have?
What stocks and bonds do you have?
And then they started doing a business census and a farming census And in the Constitution they can only ask how many people live here to apportion the states to decide how many members of the House of Representatives your state get for representation in voting.
That's why California has the most members of Congress, they have the biggest population.
Texas has the second amount, and Florida and so on and so forth.
That's all the census is for.
Now the census is this Fifth Amendment violating.
You're not supposed to be able to answer questions even under torture.
And they just mail you it, and then I got the big 54 question.
I think every three homes got that, every six homes got the multi-hunter.
When I was here, everybody talking about it, I got in the mail the 54 question.
And I said, me and my wife live here with my girlfriend at the time.
We're now married.
I said, there's two people here.
And I filled it out and mailed it back.
And a young punk came to my door.
And I'll never forget, he parked halfway out in the street, kind of blocking the road over there where I lived.
I told the story on air.
I even have video of it somewhere, never aired it.
I got a video camera.
I go to the door and go, what do you want?
He goes, listen, he has a little badge.
He goes, you're going to be arrested if you don't fill this out.
Go show me the law.
He goes, what's the law?
And I said, no.
Here's the census form.
It says you've only got to answer this question.
And it threatens you with law.
Up at the top of the form, it's illegal fraud.
But down here, there's all these questions.
I'm not answering it.
Get out of here.
And he wouldn't leave.
And I stepped out and I said, did you hear me?
I'm going to call the police.
But see, most people buckle, and so now they're saying it's going to be first a yearly census, now a monthly census, and you're just going to have constant questions from the government.
They threaten, and just like there's no law to take vaccines, but they say, we'll arrest you if you don't do this.
George, you want to comment on that?
george humphrey
Well, it's in the Constitution, and the Constitution is very clear, and you can't ask any other questions about who lives in your household.
Period.
Paragraph.
End of sentence.
And either we have a Constitution or we don't have a Constitution.
And it's like if you're playing a game of cards, does four of a kind beat two pair?
Of course it does.
But if they change the rules in the middle of the game, you get cheated.
And I personally like the rules of the Constitution that are equal and just for all people.
alex jones
It's dog training.
They just constantly, with peer pressure and with a badge, with a uniform, you know, just say, this is the way it is.
george humphrey
Well, it's absolute intimidation and it's also mind control together with ignorance.
And I really want to stress the fact that the people of this nation are far, far more controlled subconsciously than they have any idea about.
And this has been going on for years and years and years through the television, through our schools, through the food we eat, through all the political correctness, and the people of this country don't even realize how enslaved they are.
alex jones
Absolutely.
Ravel, your instincts are correct.
Anything else?
Okay, Nathan in Seattle.
Nathan, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Alex, thanks.
I was calling because I wanted to plug, wanted to know if you ever had Ellen Brown on.
And next thing was that I'm also calling because I don't really agree with George.
I'm an atheist patriot.
And I think the kind of rhetoric he's talking about is not really helpful because... Well, sir, he wasn't saying... Hold on a minute.
alex jones
He wasn't saying you are New World Order.
He was saying how the globalists identify most of themselves.
Correct, George?
george humphrey
Correct.
And part of the Constitution is freedom of religion and beliefs.
And if that is your belief, so be it.
That's not my belief, but if I believe in the Constitution and real freedom, I allow you to be a Lutheran, or a Catholic, or a Jew, or an atheist, and we can all live together.
alex jones
Nathan, do you want to come back and make any more comments?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Alright, I'll put you on hold.
We'll come right back to you after this quick break.
Long segment coming up.
Tons of time to take your calls and a lot more with George Humphrey.
But yeah, don't let me forget in our extended interview we're gonna do about mind control.
Because this film's gonna talk about how they program people.
You know, all the different levels of programming.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
A left-right paradigm.
You know, all of this that's going on that gets people in the dark.
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The Obama deception completely destroys the myth that Obama is working for the best interest of the American people.
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Let's go back to Nathan.
Okay, your issue with Georgia saying the elite claim they're atheists, they're really Luciferians, they don't want us being on the spiritual side.
But he wasn't saying all atheists are with the New World Order.
Go ahead, sir.
unidentified
Oh yeah, I mean I agree with that completely, because there's this mindset that atheists don't have morals, and when you really get down to it, morals Yeah, but who's going to set that health?
alex jones
Every time a European country votes to say, we don't want to be part of the European Union, they say, no, we're not letting you leave because you don't know, you're not educated, we know best.
So there's this attitude of the elite are saying what their morals are, and if you look at what their morals are, death, destruction, enslavement, with a nice sugar coating.
So, all I'm saying is look at, and people say, well look how Christianity's been used for mass murder, or Islam, or any of this.
That is, again, always these people using that for that.
unidentified
Yeah, well, but that's the point.
It's that morality is outside of religion as far as I'm concerned.
But, you know, even if you don't consider it to be outside of religion, the main thing is, it's not really hard to find.
You don't have to tell your kid, you know, don't stick dirt in your mouth.
You know, that's part of morality, too.
It's not very complicated in a way.
Either it's helping people or it's not helping people.
alex jones
Yeah, but I mean, sir, there's all these other dimensions the mathematics experts, the mathematicians have proven.
There's this very narrow spectrum that we live in.
I mean, just to say that, you know, I don't believe there's any higher power or anything greater.
I mean, if you've studied where the Earth is, how it's positioned, you know, its moon is just the right size, and all these other mathematical... and they say, well, that's just because we're alive here because we're the one spot in the universe where this, you know, one out of fifty trillion actually happened.
I mean, the numbers are greater than that.
All I'm saying is, Look, you could be an atheist all day long or an agnostic.
And I don't blame people looking at mainline churches and, you know, becoming atheists because they're so evil.
But the larger issue here is the elites really do believe in spiritual systems and they are always attempting to get people to not look at that or to go into kind of the mainline paradigms.
George, you want to talk about it?
george humphrey
I completely agree with you, and there's two points.
First of all, listener, I think the most important thing, as a patriot, you agree that all people in this country have the right to their own beliefs, whether they believe in God, whether they say they're a Christian, or a Jew, or a Buddhist, or an Atheist, and that in a republic, we should allow that, and we should be able to work together, and I think you and I are together on that.
Is that correct?
unidentified
I'm not together with you on it, but you know, the gold standard, that seems to have a religious You know, pseudo kind of thing behind it.
And when you look at it, it's, you know, if a guy shows up in town with a silver dollar and the silver dollar makes it all the way back to the guy, it doesn't really matter whether it was a silver dollar or, you know, seashells or whatever.
alex jones
Yeah, but see, a seashell doesn't have a real inherent value.
Silver and gold has always, you know, has a value for industrial means and many other things.
unidentified
Alex, even on our air show, when you were on there, when you were the Money Masters guy, you said that you weren't necessarily down for the, you know, silver or gold deck.
alex jones
No, no, no.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying we could have a fiat system, and I'm open for debate on that.
I'm just saying, to say that gold and silver don't have an inherent value, they do.
unidentified
I'm not saying that either.
I think they have a good long-term value.
alex jones
Let me just stop you because we made a mistake during the break and quit taping.
We're taping in there, aren't we?
We're taping on that deck.
Then it's not a crisis, don't worry about it.
Okay, sorry sir, go ahead.
unidentified
They have a long-term value, and I think any system that has a financial system in it, that you should have gold and silver for long-term, but I think also...
alex jones
It makes sense to have... I gotta move on.
So much of what happens is we end up arguing with each other over these side issues.
And I'm not saying gay marriage isn't a side issue or abortion isn't a side issue.
I'm saying for the elite they are.
They want us fighting all day over all these issues that Aren't in the overall plan of, we have a tyrannical world government run by a bunch of murdering eugenicists.
And you know, all these people I've talked to, oh the bankers are corrupt, I agree things are getting bad, but Obama's gonna fix it when he's bought and paid for by them, George!
george humphrey
Well, there's no question is that Obama is a perfect Trojan horse for these people.
He is the most charismatic, he's the most articulate, he's just awesome.
He was the perfect pick by the Illuminati to carry their water.
And that just makes the game a lot more interesting.
And it makes a lot more dangerous, because if Brother McCain had gotten elected, it would have been easy to pick him apart.
And I agree with Alex.
At this time, we need to set our priorities, and we need to stay focused, and we need to keep on track of what's really important, because survival is what it's all about right now.
alex jones
Absolutely.
Let's take another call.
Brian in Colorado.
I've got to hurry through these.
We'll never get to them all.
Brian, go ahead.
unidentified
Hey Alex, long time listener since 2002, also Prison Planet member, TV member.
Thank you.
Hey, I've got a theory here, and I think it's credible, and if you give me a minute to connect the dots and put out all the dots out there.
Now, you've talked about the 80% of the world population reduction, what they want to do.
And I believe, personally, that if this is what they're going to try to do, they're going to do it through an airborne virus type thing.
Now, what if 20% of the population was resistant to that airborne virus?
You've had a doctor on your show that she stated that these airborne viruses are fairly vulnerable and they're short-lived in the air.
Now, this is where I'm getting into my theory.
What if those airborne viruses were to enter into the body into a toxic environment, such as a smoker's lung?
Now, nicotine has been used as a pesticide for many years, and there's been this war against smokers.
I mean, we got this new tax, and they're trying to...
They're trying to get us to quit smoking for whatever reason.
So, do you see where I'm going with this?
alex jones
Oh yeah, cigarettes are a magic elixir.
I don't agree with you.
Certainly, look, look, look, the establishment is going to carry out controlled bio-attacks that are smaller to lock us down and train us that they're our saviors and are going to protect us from the next bio-attack.
george humphrey
Well, they're already doing it right now.
All you have to do is look up in the air and look at the chemtrails.
I mean, I was just out in California two weeks ago and I was outside.
The weather is exactly the same every single day.
Day one, totally clear.
Day two, totally clear.
Day three, totally clear.
Day four, the planes are spraying all over.
Uh, all over.
unidentified
And I get, I look at the people, look up, look up, look up.
george humphrey
The next day, clear, clear, clear.
The fourth day, the next fourth day, it's all tic-tac-toe.
And you can see it.
alex jones
And it's at like 5,000 feet on a hot day, and it's not ice crystals, it doesn't dissipate.
And then there's all these universities now admitting they're doing weather modifications.
Sir, they want to go after smoking because they want to put taxes on it and control it, and it sounds good to have socialism to take our rights for a good issue, a good cause.
They're going to hit us with cocktails of things.
Sodium fluoride in the water, cancer viruses in the vaccines.
They're hitting us at a lot of different levels, but I appreciate your call, Brian.
And no question is a bad question.
I just don't think smoking is protecting us, so they don't want us smoking because they're going to do that.
A lot of studies show you actually get more airborne things in your lungs when you do smoke because it breaks them down.
Let's talk to Mark in Oregon.
Mark, you're on the air.
mark in oregon
Hello, George and Alex.
Great to speak with you.
George, thank you also for your great heart and your great articulation of the important issues through the years.
George, as Alex has so recently well documented, We have mass graves being dug for us around the country.
And there are millions of plastic coffins being delivered to FEMA storage areas, which have been ordered by the Centers for Disease Control.
And the federal government has prepared enough bird flu vaccinations ready and waiting to use on all of us.
George, in your view, how do these activities by the federal government fit into their overall plans for the American people?
And what do you see as the time when they will use their biological warfare on us all relative to their overall agenda of this country's total destruction?
george humphrey
Well, first of all, thank you for your kind words.
Boy, nobody knows the exact dates, but we do know that the federal government, which is not really our government, this is not a government, it is a corporation controlled by the Federal Reserve, has already been poisoning us intentionally through the vaccines, through the chemtrails, through the fluoride in our water, through the misinformation, and on and on and on and on, to weaken the people.
And as Thomas Paine said, The beacon of freedom in the United States can be the beacon of freedom for the whole world, and the Illuminati do not want this.
And so they are smart enough.
Now the neocons were really pushing the schedule.
I don't know how fast they're going to go because they're going with the financial implosion.
They're going with the financial crisis.
You know, in this situation, we are going to have massive, massive debt deflation for a much longer period of time than what we're being told.
Because there is no way in the world that even if they issue twenty or twenty-five trillion dollars of this bailout money, can they sop up all of this debt derivative debt.
And that's just a fact.
And they're just putting plasma into a dead man right now, trying to get this thing going.
Unless they get the toxic elements out of the system, the economy cannot recover.
That's just a fact.
Now, when the real Shinola is going to hit the fan, it's hard to tell.
But right now, today, as we speak, the G20 countries are meeting and they're planning on a world currency, a world bank, and world government.
And this is not theory, as you know.
I mean, it sounds like you've really, really done your homework.
And the question is, is that we know that it's coming.
All you have to do is extend the lines of what's there.
The question is, is what can you and I and Alex and the others do to derail this train?
Because we believe in something better for our families, better for our grandchildren and our children, but also for ourselves.
And I guarantee you, Absolutely.
That if enough good people come together, we can derail this thing and that we can shift to a higher level of consciousness.
alex jones
But the biggest issue is we have to face the horror.
It's hard for people to admit we have this criminal of an elite.
george humphrey
Absolutely.
alex jones
And that this is really happening.
It's hard to believe as a parent that there are really people who want to kidnap your kids and go torture them.
george humphrey
Well, the mind control is just so amazing.
And there is a psychological term called cognitive dissonance.
And it is a very, very real psychological thing that when a person invests their time, energy, or money into a concept and then they see it's wrong, is that physically they have a very difficult time of changing courses.
It's just like in the movie The Matrix when Neo goes into the construct and he realizes this is all an illusion and that this is all just You know, it's not what it appears, and he comes out, he gets physically sick.
And I remember when I first became aware of the New World Order, I became physically ill.
It was that big of a shock to my system.
And as Winston Churchill said, almost every man at some time in their life is knocked down by the truth.
99% of them get up, dust themselves off, and walk away like nothing has happened.
1% will really figure out what's going and do something about it.
And it sounds like, my friend, that you are aware of what's going on, and you and your friends are doing something about it.
And it's going to take the combined work of the people all over this country, all over this world, to say no to this insanity.
alex jones
Absolutely, okay.
Thank you so much for the call.
Sean, we've got to hurry here.
Sean in Minnesota, go ahead.
unidentified
Hey there, good day to you Alex and George.
You guys made a profound remark about how under the globalist system of thought they believe that they are obligated to warn the public and And I want to ask both of you guys, have you seen this comic series that's been published in the London Telegraph called Blackjack?
alex jones
Yeah, Steve Watson's written a three-part series on Blackjack, where the New World Order stages all the terror attacks, nukes going off to bring in world government, and they won't say where it came from, just a major paper just publishes this in a way of letting you know, we're going to set off nukes, we're the government, and the government's going to stage the attacks.
unidentified
Absolutely true.
I find it very strange that the paper does not disclose the name of the author.
alex jones
And they do on all the other times.
Guys, pull up Blackjack during the break after we show some of the visual ads for the sponsors.
We'll come out with Blackjack, the comic.
It's not a comic, it's just a visual thing.
Martial Law, too.
They show you Martial Law going to FEMA camps.
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No All right, let's try to get in as many callers as we can right now.
alex jones
Let's talk to Shane in Denver.
Shane, you're on the air.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Hello, Alex.
Thank you so much for having me.
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alex jones
There's actually a video of surfing... No, I've seen it, but do you have any comments or questions for George Humphrey?
unidentified
Actually, my main concern with the G20 Summit is Uh, and they're, they're producing, mass producing, uh, terminator seeds and providing them to third world countries in Africa.
And it's going to cause a mass starvation.
On your video with the Obama deception, I know it's on Rockefeller's car.
He was talking about ethanol.
That's going to cause mass starvation throughout the United States as well.
It's not an alternative.
It's horrible.
You have to harvest the organs of the plant.
alex jones
This caller is real low.
Can you guys boost him up for me?
Maybe he's fine on air, but I'm having trouble hearing him.
Interesting, sir.
I don't mean to cut you off, but I have a caller who disagrees.
They go to the head of the line.
Mark in Colorado.
You're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
I think you and George are doing a wonderful job.
I think you have a huge hole in your intellect.
You compromise way too much with people who claim to be atheists, gnostics, and agnostics.
Both of you need to buy and read a book called The Answers Book 2 from answersingenesis.org.
alex jones
And quit the compromising.
God bless you for your work, and I'm hanging up.
Alright, look, we're not compromising, but I always have a group call me up and say, you gotta bash Jews, or you gotta bash Catholics, you gotta bash Blacks, you gotta bash Hindus, you gotta bash this.
I got a news show, and I'm here doing a news show.
It's not one of these little specialty shows where people just cover one thing all day.
I'm here covering world government being set up, and cancer viruses in the vaccines, and chemtrails spraying, and giant FEMA camps being built, admittedly with plastic coffins, and people in denial, and a guy called up saying that we were saying that all atheists were running the New World Order.
We said, no, we're saying the elitist claim they're atheist.
So, I mean, you know, there's so much intellectual dishonesty out there, or simplicity, it's like People always email me and they say, you have a sponsor selling tasers, but you say it's wrong when the police taser people.
No, I'm saying it's wrong when a pregnant lady doesn't move quick enough and they taser.
Or the guys on the ground going, don't taser me bro, it's the misuse of it.
It's like people that are anti-gun say, we gotta ban all guns because people get killed with them.
No, it's the misuse of the gun.
I mean, I'm not against police having guns.
I don't want to miss using them.
I'm not against citizens having guns.
I don't want to miss using them.
That's the whole issue, and so I get that.
It's like, there's no psychological differential to, you know, because the other guy thought we were saying he was part of the New World Order, and the other guy thought we were endorsing atheism, George.
I mean, you can't win.
george humphrey
Sometimes.
And the point is, is that if we do live in a truly free constitutional republic, we have to allow different points of view.
And that's just the way it is.
And that's a great thing.
Having these discussions and these debates are great.
And at the same time, as Alex says, we've got more important fish to fry.
There's a bunch of folks out there who are getting ready to create a world government and try and really stuff us.
And that's where I've got my attention.
alex jones
Now, we're out of time.
Jason Bermas will be sitting in tomorrow from 11 a.m.
to 3 p.m.
And then he'll be back tomorrow night, 9 to midnight.
He'll be on tonight, The Info Warrior, 9 to midnight.
Be sure and join him for that.
Please tell folks about Jason's show.
It's getting really popular.
There are quite a few stations picking it up.
If stations are listening, pick up my show, pick up The Info Warrior.
Check it out, 9 to midnight central at GCN, up there on the Star Guide satellite.
Details at TheInfoWarrior or InfoWarrior.com.
George Humphrey, I want to thank you for coming in, brother.
george humphrey
Alex, it's so great to be here, and I'll tell you, all your friends, go and get the Obama deception right now.
alex jones
I really am proud of it.
Get the DVD at InfoWars.com.
God bless you all.
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