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Prepare yourself for a talk radio experience like no other.
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This is the Alex Jones Show.
Call Alex now, toll free at 877-590-5525.
Now live from Austin, Texas, here's Alex Jones.
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Thank you.
alex jones
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome.
Thank you for joining us.
I guess this will be the last show in the first month of the year here on the Sunday edition.
January is almost over.
Hard to believe.
And we're going to be live here for the next two hours.
I want to open the phones up to everybody out there.
The toll-free number to join us is 877-590-5525, 877-590-5525.
And I'll be going to your phone calls coming up in the next segment.
If you're listening across the country on the AM and FM dial, theinternetatinfowars.com, on the streams, or Global Shortwave, You'll want to call the toll-free number 877-590-5525.
If you're listening locally in Texas to our affiliate 590 AM that I originate this transmission from, it's 836-0590.
And we will get you up and on the air.
I want to go through Barack Obama and his first five days in office.
What is it?
Five days to date.
He has pulled a stunt claiming he's closing Guantanamo Bay sometime in the next year, but saying they'll still have indefinite secret detention of the individuals that are being held there.
Now, he did in his executive order say that they were going to move in the next year to look at ways, that's what his order really says, you can go read it, to close ghost sites around the world, but most of those ghost sites are secret.
Those are the real torture camps.
So on the surface, it's a good thing, because at least the new president is being forced, because of his constituents' demands, to on the surface pay lip service to the fact that a parallel legal system was created under the Military Commissions Act and the Patriot Act, where U.S.
citizens can be secretly designated as terrorists and be secretly arrested and secretly taken to camp, secretly tortured, Secretly executed.
And also in there, it states that even if they have a kangaroo military commission trial, and the president or his designates don't like what the military court has to say, the president or his designates can override that.
And that has been done lately in some of the military commission trials they've had where the commissions have said, This person isn't a terrorist, and we have no evidence to hold them, and the White House and the Defense Department say, well, we're going to even supersede our own kangaroo court that happened to do the right thing.
So what Barack Obama has announced, ABC News had a headline about secret sites in the United States, and all he's saying is in the next year, we're going to look At closing Guantanamo, and then moving people to bases like the military brig, the navy brig they've got in Charlton, South Carolina, and many others around the country.
So it's lip service, but at least it's not the continual arrogance we've seen from George Bush.
On every other subject, Obama wants a larger than trillion dollar defense budget, the biggest ever, passed for fiscal year 2009 last year, with his support, by the way, in the Senate.
and Bush's support as the president.
Now he's talking about an even bigger defense budget, and this new domestic 1824 forced military service domestically, with a new domestic corps just as big, just as strong, in his words, as our million-man army.
And they have now moved 20,000 Marines, as of yesterday, the Associated Press is reporting, out of Iraq, and they're moving them in the next week to Afghanistan, along with tens of thousands of Army soldiers.
So definitely an escalation there and Hillary Clinton just signed a new deal Friday with the leader of Israel, the Prime Minister of Israel, to in the next year either have Iran buckle to giving up their peaceful nuclear program Or to be physically attacked.
So, on the war front, Obama is actually expanding things.
That's why the neocons and Pat Robertson and others are coming out and endorsing him now.
But the bigger issue is, we're hearing that Obama wants a new banking bailout.
But if you read the banking bailout passed October 3rd of last year, that he cheerleaded the passing of, along with Bush, Again, it unified both parties to do this, despite the fact that Congress reported 1,000 to 1 phone calls against it, and polls registered 98 to 99% against it in major publications.
Major scientific polls conducted by major publications.
They just went ahead with it.
And in there, I read it on air over and over again, the subsection where it said no court, no branch of government, no agency can review
What the private fellow reserve does with the money and that it's not seven hundred billion that that is just a quote really big number they arrived at and uh... it's now eight point five trillion as of six weeks ago again for six weeks previously every week we hear a trillion three hundred billion on average was being stolen and they wouldn't say where it was going since then since uh... the a p other publications ran that headline eight point five trillion they just are saying it's all completely secret now so
I can't wait till someday, maybe in my grandchildren's grandchildren's time, we find out what the private banks sucked out of the country.
But I'm being facetious.
I'm sure we'll find out soon enough because they've got to tell us as taxpayers that we have to pay this back to the very private banks that are being loaned the money.
Because all this fiat currency, all this liquidity, all this credit, it's packed up by our name, our credit, our faith, our taxes.
Meanwhile, on the economy, gold soars above $900 on safe haven demand.
This out of Market Watch.
Also, Citigroup raises $12 billion in FDIC-backed bond sale.
They're having to dip into the Federal Depositors Insurance Corporation.
And it goes on to say that they have a shortfall alone in payments on investments coming up to investors of $42.2 billion.
And that's only one of these big banking behemoths.
Continuing, California's first centennial bank shut down by regulator.
Bloomberg reports the first centennial bank of Redlands, California was seized by a state regulator.
The third U.S.
bank to fall this year as the recession deepens and the slump in the housing industry sends home foreclosures to record highs.
So on the backdrop of this, Obama is saying we need an even bigger banking bailout.
This is the only way to unfreeze credit markets and subprime mortgages and the credit card markets and all of it.
And bank, interbank lending, institutional lending.
It's not just in the service banking sector.
The real problem is in the derivatives at the institutional level.
They're saying, you know, we have to have a new Bank of the United States.
Now, they claim the private Federal Reserve is governmental and that it's the Bank of the United States.
But all this is, is the Federal Reserve is creating a new entity.
The New York Times reported a month and a half ago that they're issuing to institutions Federal Reserve bonds, quietly, they won't give details, it's all basically secret, to governments and large institutional investors and groups, conglomerates, and that now they're going to transfer the remaining power out of Congress and out of the Treasury to this new body that will be part of an international body and that you will then pay your taxes.
You already write your paycheck, your tax check to the Federal Reserve Bank.
Notice that, those of you that don't just do withholding and who actually have employees or self-employed and pay taxes.
You already write that to the private Federal Reserve that's predominantly owned by foreign shareholders.
Now,
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just like... ...like just like... ...like
alex jones
Congress signed over in the mid-90s their authority over trade to the private World Trade Organization to create the taxing mechanism. - Yeah.
Not one red cent of your income tax goes to run the country.
Well, as they're creating the new open world bank, They have to create the tax system so that you can be taxed by them.
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alex jones
It is the 25th day of January, 2009.
Hard to believe it's 2009.
unidentified
I keep saying 2008.
alex jones
Almost a month into it.
unidentified
Okay, we're going to your phone calls here in a moment at 877-590-5525.
alex jones
2008.
Almost a month into it.
Okay, we're going to your phone calls here in a moment at 877-590-5525.
Joseph, Dan Steele, Steve, many others that are patiently holding.
unidentified
You know what?
alex jones
Last night, just a side note, KRS-One, about two weeks ago, called my office.
They were coming through Austin.
They wanted to come and be on my radio show.
They were huge fans.
And then they got here to town late, so they just wanted me to go to the show last night.
Invited me there, so we went and interviewed KRS-One after he played at Mohawks.
And literally, it blew me away.
Because I don't go down to 6th Street a lot.
And just as not bragging about, oh all these people know me, it's a gauge of how big the show's getting.
And I could go down to 6th Street ten years ago and have maybe one out of six, seven people that walk past me say, hey Alex Jones.
But we had to park probably five, six blocks north of there, because 6th Street was really full last night, to go down to Mohawks.
Myself and my camera crew, and the whole way to Mohawks was probably every other person was, Hey Alex Jones!
Hey, give me an autograph!
Hey, let me take a picture!
So I could barely get there.
And then once we got there, here's this huge hip-hop crowd, a mixed crowd of black folks, white folks, Hispanics, Asians, just really well represented.
And uh of everybody and it was more than half of them were Alex Jones and all these other hip-hop people and other well-known hip-hop folks and I was backstage and I was in the VIP area and it was like literally and then KRS-One gets up on stage After the other groups had played and was like, I'm down with Alex Jones.
I'm not down with Barack Obama.
Barack Obama's a New World Order puppet.
You watch.
And then he started going into all these raps and putting me in them and everything.
It was just... Yeah, he's not down with the... And then I interviewed him over the phone last Friday because he couldn't make it to town until Saturday.
On the radio, and he said a lot of that.
He said, hip-hop is behind you.
But then after the show, I got to interview him for about 30 minutes, and he was telling me just how many people, I mean, the icons of hip-hop are huge fans of this radio show and the films and what we do.
And expanding from there, you know, I talked to my buddy who does a major TV show in Hollywood, not Charlie Sheen, somebody else, and he told me, you know, the whole cast of the show basically You know, in their dressing rooms, listening to the radio show, because they'll sit there for hours having their makeup put on or reading scripts.
And then I talked to Joe Rogan, who was in town.
I had dinner with him last night before I went to meet with KRS-One, because he was here for his comedy routine.
And he was telling me, he goes, oh yeah, a whole bunch of people, a whole bunch of the biggest names he was listing.
I'm not really up on Ultimate Fighting.
uh... but he was telling me like all the be like the big guys in it were like huge fans of us in the show i mean it is getting exponential so i'm not just one guy fight the new rule or there's a lot of other prominent people so think about that just everywhere i go every genre every group and i could be in the streets of canada the streets of england i can be on the streets of uh... honduras i was uh... down in uh... honduras last week uh...
And people are coming up to me.
So it is just incredible to know that we are reaching this many people and it's very exciting.
That shows that the establishment media propaganda is not working.
When quote someone as radical as myself is, as I would say, going supernova.
And that's what all of our numbers show on radio, on internet, on everything.
It's just exponential.
The number of people checking out what we're doing and resonating with it is Just massive.
And it's really kind of scary.
And then, at 2 in the morning, I tried to leave Mohawks.
And it was a gauntlet of just everyone stopping, because the bars were letting out about 2.15.
And there were people just pouring out.
Didn't matter if it was a punk bar, or a rock bar, or a country bar.
And it was a gauntlet, those 5, 6, 7 blocks, trying to get back, you know, in the freezing cold night, with just people pouring out, shaking our hands, and taking pictures.
I mean, it's amazing.
Yeah, we should have just had our cameras and shown all that.
I mean, we did catch it at the KRS-One event, but again, I just spent five minutes on this only because it's an indicator of how many people we're touching, and it also is daunting in a way because everybody's paying attention to every word I say.
I mean, everything I do is being gone over with a fine-tooth comb, so I better do a good job.
We better do a good job.
Because as things get tougher, as the New World Order closes in around us, as everything I've talked about comes true, and that's why this is happening.
For 13 years I've been hammering and hammering and hammering and laying out what would happen when and how it would happen, and it's all happening.
Now people heard me three years ago say they were going to pop the subprime mortgage by design and bring in a huge banking crisis and then openly set up a World Bank.
And roll the private federal reserve into it and set up carbon taxes and it's all being announced.
Everybody heard me say there'd be youth brigades and 18 to 24 serving domestically in a domestic army.
Not overseas, it's now being announced.
Everybody heard us lay out all this stuff about how there'd be troops on the streets, how they'd build FEMA camps.
Now they're announcing it on the news but saying it's a good thing.
And really, we don't deserve much credit.
At least I don't.
I'm just somebody who found out about this agenda, could read government documents, could interview experts.
And who found out about this and decided I was going to fight it.
And because we've gotten the word out, and listeners have spread the word, and other people in alternative media have spread the word, the mainstream media is losing all credibility.
Now for a brief time, the system's going to be able to fool some of the public, a large sector of the public, a large cross-section, that Obama's different, he's going to change things, his rhetoric's different.
But as soon as they figure out it was a betrayal, the rebellion against tyranny is just going to explode that much faster.
And so that's the basic news I wanted to bring up as well.
So we're going to go to break here in a moment.
Then we're going to come right back to after the news to all of your calls.
Also, some of the other news coming up later.
Ebola may have passed from a pig to a human.
International Herald-Tribune, why is this so important?
Because it's a new strain of Ebola and well, Ebola kills what?
Close to 90% of the people that get it.
So that's a serious issue.
Unrented, unreturned library book leads to woman's arrest.
Oh yeah, if you forget to bring a library book back in Williamson County, they take you to jail.
This is Independence, Iowa though.
A $13.95 value book.
FDA says no to GMO labels.
GMO, of course, has been proven with rats and other things that have been tested on genetically modified organism food to really cause reproductive problems and cancers and things and all the major studies.
But they could argue and say, oh no, we say it's good for you.
But why not let us know if a product's got GMO in it?
Well, the FDA says, no, you're not allowed to know that information.
And that dovetails in with the fact that a few years ago, they tried to stop organic milk companies from just saying on the label, there was no bovine growth hormone in there.
That's the reason your five-year-old girls are going into puberty and your boys are eight feet tall and you're only six foot tall.
I mean, this stuff is screwing people up.
Oh, and another big story that is out of England, but similar things are happening here in the U.S.
This goes in the same category as most public schools have banned first dodgeball, then running at recess, and then jungle gyms and swings.
This is all part of enslaving the public.
Coast Guard can't start a rescue until they fill out a health and safety assessment.
So they have to wait like 30 minutes when somebody's fallen off a boat and freezing to death or there's been a wreck out on the high seas.
They have to wait and fill out a weather report, a risk assessment, where it is, if it's safe for them to go.
So we're going to go over that as well today.
But first, some of your phone calls and I'll break down this bank nationalization.
It's not really that.
Stay with us.
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Openly, private offshore banks have taken control of the government, both parties.
Obama is their man, four times the Wall Street campaign donations than any other candidate in history.
Five times the Goldman Sachs money.
And Their operations are all secret, but they're saying that... Well, they'll tell Congress it's secret.
I have those articles this week when Geithner, now approved to be Treasury Secretary by the Senate Committee, said, well, it's all secret what we're doing, but it's international in scope.
But separately, in the Bretton Woods II agreement, they said it will be a private world bank that you pay taxes to.
Again, that was in Newsweek.
You can just Google, uh, New World Bank Newsweek a few issues ago.
Let's go ahead and go to your phone calls.
Let's talk to, uh, Joseph in California.
You're on the air, Joseph.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
alex jones
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I would like to give you a most sincere thank you.
If it weren't for you, I wouldn't be awake right now to the horrible things that are occurring.
I really, really do thank you.
I would definitely like to get in on the subject about how Obama wants animals to be able to sue people.
Now, we're pretty close to that as it is, with all these animal rights movements and laws.
I dealt with something in Florida where when the economy went downhill, I lost work, I lost my place, and living out of my car, and we had two cats and my girlfriend, and looking inside for a job off the internet.
Cops went out there and ticketed us for $285 apiece on tickets and then we had to have our cat's papers.
So no longer can we, we have to leave the house with our papers before taking our pets.
We have to have our pet's papers too.
For their shots.
Like they're going to have rabies or something.
These are house cats.
alex jones
Well there's also, under the Animal ID and Primus Society, there's a lot of hobby farmers that have 10, 15, 20 chickens, a couple pigs, a few cows.
You're going to have to register all those.
The chickens for $20 apiece, the cows for $100 apiece.
But then all the big farms and big agribusiness, they're all exempted.
So, it's not about animal welfare.
In fact, his new head of regulations, who wrote these papers about animals being able to sue you, says the government will represent the animals.
And they say that then in a democracy, the animals will outvote the people.
But again, it'll be the government saying they represent animals.
That's a way to get around the quote, people's popular will, and say, well, we're representing these animals.
It's the same thing where they'll, all over the country, they've been caught planting, and I appreciate your call, planting endangered species.
Just Google environmentalists caught planting endangered species.
There was a famous case in South Dakota where they were caught planting cougars.
They've been caught planting birds.
The government's been caught planting fish in ponds that, again, regionally are endangered.
It means in that area there's not a lot of them.
They've been caught planting cave bugs in Central Texas.
So again, it's not about saving the environment, it's about, well take the case of the city of Austin, stole tens of thousands of acres, claimed it was going to be parkland, turned around and built million dollar ranchette houses all over it.
And it turned out it was all these different city council people involved with the very banks that would then finance selling the property once they had control of it.
So it's bad.
It's all about regulation and control.
Dan in Connecticut, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, how are you today?
I actually have good news for you.
You know that case that got Barry Cooper into Odessa, Texas?
I actually talked to Yolanda Madden's father and I got a case narrative and I talked with one of your previous guests about it, Randy Kelton, he does a show called... Let me just stop you.
alex jones
A lot of folks that call in, we don't screen your calls, think we're having a private discussion and so a lot of people don't know that Barry Cooper is a former narcotics officer that has reported that 85% of narcotics officers plant drugs on people, he's done stings, now that he quit being a police officer, Of the police doing things like this or not having warrants.
And so now you've brought people up to speed.
unidentified
Okay, excellent.
Aside from the merits of the case, which I'm sure you're familiar with, the due process violations alone should be enough to get Yolanda out of jail.
alex jones
Yes, well let me tell people specifically about Yolanda's case.
unidentified
Well, Yolanda actually had a judge interfere with counsel And basically what happened is the judge ordered the counsel that she'd actually fired to file motions on her behalf anyway, did nothing through the trial, said file a motion for continuance, and the guy did it anyway and the judge denied it anyway.
alex jones
Well yeah, I mean routinely in these court cases, that's just one specific one, they cheat and violate every rule and that's why the judicial system is so corrupt now.
I appreciate your call.
Let's go ahead and talk to Steve in Pennsylvania.
Steve, you're on the air.
unidentified
Good afternoon, Alex.
alex jones
Hi.
unidentified
In just seven days, on February 1st, 2009, in Tampa, Florida, they'll be playing the Super Bowl.
Steelers will be going after the sixth Super Bowl ring.
Years ago, a movie came out called The Sum of All Fears.
alex jones
Yes.
unidentified
And to get the people's minds off the banking crisis, Well, I hear what you're saying.
The globalists like to brag before they do something.
That's why I talked to the producers of the X-Files.
or they say Osama had a ticket to the Super Bowl.
Wouldn't that be their perfect opportunity to get our mind off the banking crisis and for the new world order to take a major step forward?
alex jones
Well, I hear what you're saying.
The globalists like to brag before they do something.
That's why, and I talked to the producers of the X-Files, that they were approached by the CIA, had plots planted on them, and six months before 9-11 they had an episode where a hijacked jet is hijacked by the Pentagon They use a drill to make the rest of NORAD stand down, saying it's a drill to fly it into the World Trade Center by remote control to blame it on Afghan terrorists.
But when we start seeing every plot in a movie or television and thinking then, I mean, it's true on FX, they had a show called Oil Storm that even had the mayor of New Orleans in it.
Where the city floods and exactly what happened in the film Oil Storm, that aired on FX one year before it actually happened in New Orleans.
So it is bizarre.
Is it coincidence?
I don't know.
What we do know is it's declassified that elements of the Pentagon have staged hundreds of terror attacks worldwide and proposed staging terror attacks in the United States in Operation Northwoods As a pretext to get people's minds off political things that are happening and to motivate the people to unify around the government's unpopular policy.
And just a few months ago, it was all over the British and French and German and Chinese press, but the Rand Corporation document leaked a big Pentagon private think tank that they had a huge theater war, bigger than the Iraq War, as a diversion for the economy.
So what you say has a lot of validity.
You just can't put a name or a date or a time on it.
But do I think that the establishment to get the people to go along and to be distracted from the foreign banks taking over or openly the U.S.
going into receivership to private banks and a world government bank openly being set up Will they stage a terror attack?
Will they provocateur something?
I had Congressman Ron Paul on the radio show Tuesday.
Literally during the inauguration, he was on the show, and he agreed and said he believes it's a very serious danger, that they will stage some type of event.
And he said in the past, a Gulf of Tonkin style event is what he thought Dick Cheney would do to go after Iran.
He said that about two years ago, then it came out about eight months ago in New Yorker magazine.
Cy Hirsch gave an interview and admitted That White House sources... Seymour Hersh, Pulitzer Prize winner, doesn't lie, folks.
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Back to Vietnam.
That the White House wanted to stage a terror attack in the Strait of Hormuz.
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But people leaked that out of the White House and it didn't happen.
So a lot of this evil stuff doesn't end up happening because there's a lot of good people in government as well.
Let's get to some more calls here.
Taking a lot of calls today.
Eric in Austin, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
How are you doing?
alex jones
Good, sir.
unidentified
Well, I just wanted to talk about a possible civil war in the United States.
and I guess I wanted your input on it.
I was on the internet last night and apparently there's a former KGB agent who was under, who 10 years ago he claimed, because everyone laughed at him.
alex jones
More than 10 years ago, he said it in 92.
He said that the United States will collapse and break into six parts, and that it's part of the New Order plan.
That's the piece of the issue you don't hear in our news.
But it's not just him.
I didn't hang up on you, sir.
Your phone disconnected.
You can call back if you want to hear more of what you have to say.
But to fill folks in on that.
The Army War College came out a month ago and said the United States could break up unless they put troops on the streets, basically.
The British Ministry of Defense report in late 2007 said the same thing.
The RAND Corporation, speak of the devil, said the same thing as well.
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Yeah, I do a four-hour radio show Monday through Friday from 11 to 3 central.
That isn't enough, because so much happens on the weekend and the new week before us.
I come in for two hours, 4 to 6 p.m.
with the abbreviated final edition here.
I'm taking your phone calls right now.
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FDA says no to GMO labels.
But first I'm going to get into what's happening on the financial front in the United States.
As you're noticing, the establishment's known for many years they were going to implode the economy.
They just keep lying to you saying, go along with our next policy, our next plan, and everything will be okay.
And a few months later, give us even more power.
Give us even more anonymity and secrecy, and everything will be okay, and then it just gets worse.
That is being done by design, and they hope their frontman, Barack Obama, can fool the public long enough where they stand down, so that Congress doesn't rightfully take the power back from the executive, which has been sold out to foreign offshore banks and financial institutions.
It's really that simple, and Congress has been threatened with martial law if they try to do their job and say no to all of this.
Going back to your phone calls, Let's go ahead and talk to Rob in Pennsylvania.
Rob, you're on the air.
unidentified
How you doing, Alex?
alex jones
Good, sir.
unidentified
I appreciate all the hard work that you do.
alex jones
Thank you.
unidentified
I wanted to report here in Allentown, PA, we have digital billboards through the Adams Outdoor Advertising Company, and I am seeing a plethora of these billboards.
They are rotating advertisements.
I will see, in one instance, I'll see this artsy blue and red kind of Obama hope advertisement.
And in the next rotation, I will see Operation Never Forgotten where they are glamorizing this support the troops kind of thing.
And I was wondering...
alex jones
Which means support the agenda of starting more wars and keeping them in harm's way.
I've been talking about this all week.
this is what's happening and it's totally illegal Well, They're taking the Ad Council money, that's tax money, and then most stations run them for free, but the production costs money.
It's billions of dollars a year.
And Obama has set up usaservice.org, which is non-governmental.
It's private under him and the Democratic Party, but they run the ads as if it's governmental, saying, come sign up with us to volunteer.
And then separately, they're going to have compulsory service within the government.
So they're setting up their own domestic squads.
And they're now running Obama propaganda ads.
And Bush got in trouble for this, but this is a lot more than what Bush did.
And we criticized it then with the fake newscast and stuff, but this is overt.
With these Obama ads, all about Obama, all over the government paid for billboards, all over TV, all over radio, all over newsprint.
And again, that's not what happens in free societies.
They have lots of propaganda about how great the leader is in North Korea, or even in Iran.
This is not what a free society does or has.
And so, yeah, it's just incredible.
unidentified
Yeah, and this is what I've been trying to convey to some people who I try to relate the information to, I try to, you know, report and just disseminate some of the things that I learned from you and I'm beginning to understand more and more fully.
A, it's creeping me out because it's such overt propaganda, and B, it's pissing me off because the American taxpayer is footing the bill for these billboards.
alex jones
Absolutely, and it's not even pushing people I mean, literal giant... They started paying for signs about two years ago that would just say, George W. Bush, our leader, like we were in North Korea or something.
Again, in a free society, there aren't big billboards with the leader's face.
I mean, if the party wants to pay to put those up during campaigns, it's still a little creepy.
But now there are billboards, TV ads, billions of dollars.
of our tax money to put these up and then to recruit people into his own private army.
I mean, I'm telling you folks, we're in a lot of trouble.
Let's go ahead and talk to Hilde in Vermont.
Welcome to the Airwaves.
unidentified
Hi Alex.
alex jones
Yes.
unidentified
Hi Alex, this is Hilde.
How are you?
alex jones
Good.
unidentified
Good, good.
I really wanted to talk to you about the FOCA Act that is coming up, the bill.
It's really in opposition to human life.
It's a radical threat to human life.
It's in opposition to all of... Well, tell folks specifically what it is.
alex jones
A lot of people... And I just wanted to... A lot of people won't know what the acronym is.
Tell them.
unidentified
Well, it is the Elimination of Regulations to Protect Women from Unsafe and Unscrupulous Abortionists.
It forces American taxpayers to fund abortions.
Yeah, what's happening is... And also, too... All the Planned Parenthood... Let me just tell you, we watched a movie, which I recommend, Judgment at Nuremberg, and it was about five judges Yeah, they said I was just following the law, I was just following orders, and it's based on the transcripts from the Nuremberg trials.
Yes.
alex jones
That's excellent.
unidentified
Yes, and this FOCA is doing the same thing and is taking away human rights from people.
alex jones
Well, that's the first thing Obama did was double the amount of funding for forced abortions in China and abortions and eugenics operations known as family planning in Africa and Latin America and Asia.
Great points.
I'm just moving quicker to get to everybody.
Let's go ahead and talk to Pam in Canada.
Pam, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi.
alex jones
Hey, Pam.
unidentified
Welcome.
Hi.
Good to talk to you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Alex.
Thank you for taking my call.
alex jones
You bet.
unidentified
Let my dog go to the room.
There you go.
There you go, love.
I'd like to say I have been listening to you for about two years, and I've only had a computer for that long myself.
alex jones
I'm a... So you're listening on the Internet?
unidentified
Yeah.
Exactly.
alex jones
Okay, what's on your mind today?
unidentified
Well, I'd like to talk about microcosm tyranny in that I lived next door to a person who worked for the city of Edmonton for 33 years.
alex jones
And they're on a power trip?
unidentified
And got away with everything.
And I was harassed.
alex jones
Well, that's what tyrannies do, is they empower all these little petty nobodies that don't have skills, that don't have ideas, who can't operate in the free market, and they just run around parasiting on the public.
unidentified
Exactly.
Like, I was threatened for years, five years, because of this man who worked for the city.
He didn't like me because I wouldn't talk to him.
It was amazing because when he almost died he went to the hospital and the police actually guarded his house.
They sat five houses across the street from us and guarded the house against all the riffraff which would visit him.
Which previously before visited him for two years.
alex jones
I hear you ma'am.
You ought to write it up in the email and send me the story.
We don't really have the time to get into all the problems you're having with your With your neighbor.
You just popped in my ear and said something and I didn't understand it.
Okay, good.
We're going to have Bob Chapman on The Economy with us.
I've been having him on a lot lately because his track record of predicting what's happening in the economy has been more accurate than most.
I'd say 95% accuracy.
Of course, he's had one of the biggest financial newsletters in the world until he retired.
And he was the largest private silver and gold broker as well.
And he's been fighting the globalists for 45 years.
He helped produce and publish an undercover conspiracy with Gary Allen, his partner.
Worked with so many other leaders in the fight against the globalists.
I wanted to get him on to get into the economy and what this bank nationalization, which isn't really nationalization, it's privatization, hijacking really means.
But let's go ahead and go back to the calls.
Let's talk to Nate in Maine.
Nate, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
Good to talk to you again.
alex jones
Okay, good to talk to you.
Go ahead.
unidentified
I just wanted to congratulate you on that interview with KRS-One.
That was a groundbreaking interview.
Very, very informative and insightful.
The other thing I wanted to talk about was Barack Obama's inauguration when he swore in.
I noticed that George Bush Jr., when he did his inauguration, he messed up a part of it too.
I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton messed his up.
alex jones
Yeah, for those that don't know, the inauguration isn't official, the swearing in, unless they do it properly.
And we pointed that out, so Obama then, two days later, because he didn't do large parts of it, he then was sworn in again, but this time they said secretly.
But they had one camera person there, and secretly he wouldn't let them record it, and he didn't swear in on a Bible.
And that was in the mainstream news.
So they did that on purpose, so he could then go have a private one and not do it on the Bible.
I guarantee you, there was all these big debates about would he swear in on a Bible, you know, was he really a Muslim, all this other stuff, and I kind of poo-pooed that.
But now you gotta ask yourself the question.
I mean, he messes it up once, then they have it again, and they let a White House pool photographer You know, I mean, in-house White House photographer was the only person allowed to take photos and there's no Bible.
And they say, well, we just didn't use the Bible.
And they put that in the newspaper.
So, he can't get it right twice.
Didn't get sworn in on George Washington's Bible.
unidentified
My theory also is that, uh, I think they do this on purpose so that that'll negate the oath, so they don't have to stand true to the Constitution.
alex jones
Oh, most police and government bureaucrats now don't even do their oaths, and there's big lawsuits about that because they're not duly sworn officers if they don't.
Good to hear from you, appreciate the call.
Here comes the news, ladies and gentlemen.
And after the news and important messages, we'll come back with the second hour of Bob Chapman, your phone calls and a lot more.
Stay with me.
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alex jones
It didn't matter if 98% of Americans in every major poll, some or even 99%, were against the banker bailout.
They did it, but it wasn't a banker bailout.
See, they'll call it one thing, it's another.
It allowed unlimited amounts of money, now over $8.5 trillion and growing, to be given to offshore predominant banks, to whoever they want.
Remember, they said, oh, we're passing it, October 3rd, threatened Congress with martial law, on record.
The White House did it, they didn't pass it, and said, we've got to have it for, or we'll have a depression by next week to unlock credit.
And the subprime mortgages.
And then, on October 4th, Secretary of the Treasury Paulson said, you know what?
We don't need it for that, but it's secret what we do need it for, and we're not going to tell you where it's going.
But that gave them unlimited criminal power in that bill.
Now they're saying, Obama's saying they've got to have another bill.
He helped cheerlead the last one.
He's saying we've got to have it.
He's got Timothy Geithner, who engineered a bunch of the scams we're seeing, doesn't pay his taxes.
He's now been approved out of the committee, at least, to be Treasury Secretary.
And it's the same group.
Very same group of people.
And they're saying, well, we need an even bigger bailout.
It's going to be international in scope.
Well, you read the fine print of what they're saying.
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They tell Congress it's secret.
We can't tell you.
But then they're in Newsweek.
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Now, we're the guys that told you this years and years and years ago and said it would start with derivatives, start with subprime mortgages.
And it's now happened.
And I've got a New York Post article of all places, you know, that's Rupert Murdoch, endorsing Barack Obama and saying his plan Is the right one to fix the economy and then they mislabel it saying that it is a bailout of the banks to stop the implosion.
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I had him on Friday, but he's back with us today.
Bob, can you succinctly explain what's happening to people with this Wall Street coup, as Dr. Paul Greg Roberts, the former head of the Treasury, has said, and many others?
This is a Wall Street coup.
Explain, in basic terms, what they're doing, where this is going, how bad this depression is going to get, and where you see all of this ending.
I mean, boil down for people, basically, talk to us like we're fifth graders, and explain to people exactly what's happening.
bob chapman
Well, first of all, two years ago, we said that we were entering recession, and several economists came along about a year ago and said, yes, we're going into a recession.
And government discovered it about a month ago.
And government didn't discover it because the government didn't want to.
And so you say to yourself, well, why did that happen?
Well, it's because it was engineered that way.
It just didn't happen.
The money that has gone to the banks, as Alex has said, has gone offshore.
Some of it was used to pay dividends.
A bonus is to these people who run these banks and brokerage firms and insurance companies.
And what it is, is it's a private consolidation of power.
They're just rolling everything together.
And the scandals that we see, such as the questioning of Mr. Gittler by Congress, The Madoff Affair, where somewhere between $50 and $100 billion disappeared, and all of the losses that are being taken by companies with no explanation as to why.
And so, this is a conglomeration of information that's come forward, and the intention of the powers behind government Is that they want to show the public that finances, that includes insurance, brokerage, as well as banks, have been mismanaged.
And we have to have regulations worldwide in order to not make that happen again.
alex jones
And remember, folks, this is the group that engineered all this and changed the laws in the mid and late 90s to do this.
Now they're saying we're the saviors.
Give us unlimited power.
Openly in Newsweek, let us have a world government that sets taxes and regulates all of you.
Openly by the banks.
bob chapman
And that is part of it as well.
And so, I think you're going to see, starting this coming month, talk in Washington, Wall Street, about these new regulations, which have been banted around Europe for the last three or four months.
Sarkozy, the President of France, And also Mrs. Merkel, who is the Chancellor in Germany, Kevin talking about it as well as Gordon Brown, the PM, in London.
And so, they kind of get the ball rolling, get the door open.
Now what they're after here is, once they get consolidation nationally, and of course in the case of the European Union, It'll be in two segments.
One, the non-members.
There's 27, I think, members in the European Union, of which 16 belong to the Eurozone.
And that's the group that uses the currency, the Euro.
And they will fit in and go along with the regulations.
The next step will be A devaluation of all currencies, or almost all currencies.
And don't ask me to give you a time frame, because it's too difficult.
People are talking about next month.
alex jones
Yeah, they're just saying they're planning to do it on record, but they won't say when.
And they're also very secretive.
Please continue.
So globally, a private group of banks operating as a government through a treaty with nations, setting
bob chapman
Well, once they get these regulations in place, and it'll take them at least a year to do it, and it could take as long as two, but let's say it takes a year, then what they will do is say, well, the US dollar has come down substantially
Which I expect it to as well.
And so the dollar is going to have to be devalued.
And rather than face default, we'll have everybody else devalued too.
And the key to that will be the sovereign nations throughout the world have foreign exchange balances.
And they are keeping 64.5% of those balances in US dollars.
So, if the dollar gets devalued, they can hit pretty hard too.
So, they're all in it together, so to speak.
So, I think most all of the currencies in the world would be devalued at the same time the dollar would be.
alex jones
And that's what globalization is.
They get everybody tied in to their fiat system and they implode it and say the only way out of this is giving us these private consortium of banks operating as a world government, a regulatory agency.
Give us unlimited power, we can fix it.
bob chapman
Well, the next step, of course, is the hue and cry that, oh, goodness gracious, we've had this terrible worldwide devaluation because of what's gone on and lack of regulations.
So they get the regulations passed, and then all of a sudden they say, well, we've decided, us people in the financial business and these governments have decided that it would be much better if we had one currency.
And that's what they're after.
And there's no constituency in the world who'll go along with it.
unidentified
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Come on in the next segment.
I'll be with your phone calls on a host of subjects, any issue you want to call in about.
But I wanted to get Bob Chapman up here today, because, and again, I've had former Nobel Prize winning economists on, I've interviewed them all, and they're all saying the same thing.
This is an engineered crisis, and the very group of offshore banks that engineered it are the ones now terrorizing the public, saying, well, I have a depression.
If you don't do what we say, well, they've already had tax incentives to move offshore.
This was all done by design.
Bob, they're openly announcing they plan to start stealing pension funds.
Well, a lot of companies are already doing it.
They changed the law a few years ago where they could do that, but saying they can do it and being able to get away with it is another thing.
They're openly announcing that they want to use regular army against the American people.
They're announcing they're going to use the Patriot Act against non-terror-related cases.
I mean, this is a worst-case scenario that is Unfolding.
Can you speak to, just briefly, the real state of the economy right now with all of this news coming out about Citigroup raises $12 billion, loses $42.2 billion, just having to pay their dividends on investments.
So now they're having to raid the Federal Depositor's Insurance Corporation fund for that.
California's first centennial bank going under.
Meanwhile, we have all these neocom publications endorsing Obama and quote, nationalization.
When it's not nationalization, it's the private Federal Reserve using taxpayer money to buy Ford, buy Chevy, to go in and buy up infrastructure.
People get mad if they knew our tax money was going for private banks to buy these upper pennies on the dollar.
So they just call it nationalization when it's the opposite.
This is privatization, isn't it?
bob chapman
Yes, that's exactly what it is.
And I've given you the train or the chain of events That I expect that will be attempted over the next two to three years.
One of the things that I've learned, and this is my 49th year now, and one of the things I've learned in business, one of the things I've learned is that things never happen as quickly as you think they do or will.
And so you tend to be a little bit calmer and more patient Then when you recognize the same things when you were 35 years old.
And so, it's going to take a while, but they're not going to be successful.
They think they are, and they're going forward like it's just another coup for them.
And that just isn't going to happen.
alex jones
That's a key point.
They've done this to hundreds of third world countries, this exact same takeover profile.
bob chapman
Well, they don't want any part of it.
I mean, if you go to different countries in the world and talk to the people on the street, they say, no, I don't want that.
You know, we experienced that before with this or that, or look what's happening to the euro.
I mean, we've got four countries in Europe that are on the edge of bankruptcy.
alex jones
Well, what are folks going to do when they start... I mean, it's one thing to lose your job.
What are they going to do as the government seizes people's 401ks to, quote, protect them?
bob chapman
Well, let's back into that.
You spoke about it a couple of minutes ago.
And you spoke about the legislation which allowed these corporations, about 19% of people are covered under conventional pensions, we'll call them.
Not the 401k variety.
And they were allowed to adjust or eliminate their pension plans.
And they're doing it.
The excuse is, well, The companies from offshore don't give any benefits to their employees, and they treat them like slave labor, so let's do that to Americans, too.
So anyway, that's been underway for about, actually, almost three years now.
And I gotta just sidetrack for a second.
You said something about the monies being put offshore by transnational corporations.
This is nothing new.
If you go back three years, you'll see that there was legislation to allow these transnationals, who are the ones under free trade and globalization, who are offshoring and outsourcing over five million American jobs over the last eight years.
And what they do is they make this money by having goods made cheap, say in China, And then have them sold to the United States.
But the money is not coming into the United States.
It's going to their subsidiary, perhaps in the Cayman Islands.
And three years ago, because they needed an infusion into the American financial scene, and under the guise of creating employment, all these offshore corporations were allowed to bring as much money back To the United States as I want it.
alex jones
And that's why Halliburton and others have moved offshore.
And I want to take you into the next segment and talk briefly about that.
But before this segment ends, I want to bring Ted Anderson, the owner of the Genesis Network that syndicates this radio show on, because he also owns Midas Resources, 30-year gold brokerage and silver brokerage.
Because Ted bought gold when it was $815 an ounce.
Now it's over $900 right now.
He has it in store.
And he also wants to, you've let us at his company, give people a free introductory copy of your latest hard copy newsletter, The International Forecaster.
They can also go to internationalforecaster.com.
So before this segment ended, I wanted to briefly bring Ted in so he could, well it's 800-686-2237, so they could call and find out about that, but also find out about the gold and silver deal that Ted's got going that only goes until midnight tonight, folks.
because then he's going to be out of this position and have to buy gold at the new higher price.
Most places don't even have gold and silver.
Ted's been in it so long.
But, I mean, Bob, bottom line, would it be a smart move for people to physically have part of their 401k in gold or silver so they just trust the government and leave it in there?
bob chapman
Well, I recommend gold and silver-related assets very strongly, because as far as I can see, after all my years of experience, this is the only place to be.
alex jones
How good of a deal is it if Ted bought gold at $815 an ounce and he's selling it at that price, priced into the market, when it's at $900?
How good of a deal is that?
bob chapman
Well, it's terrific.
It goes without saying.
I mean, coins that he purchased probably for $100,000.
Say $45 he was selling them at that level.
They're now $160 or whatever.
alex jones
Let's bring Ted on.
bob chapman
They're higher in the marketplace than what Ted bought them at.
alex jones
Ted, take a Frank or a British Sovereign.
What you bought, you said some of the Sovereigns at $205 and right now they're selling for $245.
You're still selling them at $205?
What was the number you told me?
unidentified
No, what I have is I have the Frank right now.
They're at $202, but repricing them.
They're at $225 at the current market price.
I also have the British Sovereign.
They're at $2.50.
Currently right now, if I went back to the marketplace, which I will be having to do tomorrow, they'll be at $2.75.
I mean, the prices have gone up over 11% just within the last week.
And the reason why that's happening is because we have so many foreigners right now trying to buy gold and they're pushing the marketplace.
alex jones
Yeah, that's on the news.
A bunch of them on the newswire.
Just Google gold.
That all over the world, the markets are sold out of physical gold.
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What about silver, Ted?
It's made a major move up.
unidentified
Silver's in the same position.
I just haven't had a chance to see what the new prices are going to be on that, because silver's gone up two bucks an ounce.
Presently, right now, I'm still working on a supply of Walking Liberty halves at $8.40 apiece, but the silver dollars have shot through $20 apiece, and the halves are up, too.
And I just have to revise them.
I know that'll be in the market in somewhere around $8.
alex jones
But for folks that don't know, right now they can get last week's prices 11% cheaper, $800.
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Okay, I know we've got loaded phone lines.
We're going to go through your calls, but I promise to break down what's happening with the banking.
Ladies and gentlemen, they're stealing the value of your paper.
They're terrorizing you and saying, oh, we'll protect your investments.
Just give us unlimited power.
Let us set up this world government system.
But you read their own documents.
They have no intention.
They intend to steal it from you.
That's what the police state's about, in case you try to go take control of the government.
Again, this is Bloomberg Financial reporting.
Congress has been told they're under war powers.
Separate Fed Governors have been told you're not allowed to even know what's going on in the private Federal Reserve.
Only the New York Fed is running this.
I want to go back to Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com.
Bob, specifically, why do we even have former Fed Governors and current Fed Governors complaining in the press that everything's secret?
I mean, I guess in this final round of risk here, it's so criminal what's going on they've got to keep it secret from their own people?
bob chapman
That's right.
They've been left out of the loop.
And they were upset about that because they thought they were insiders.
And, you know, they're excited about their past affiliations with the Fed.
And their ego has been hurt.
And that's why you're getting the comments you're getting.
And you'll continue to get them until, finally, people within government and behind government will tell these individuals, you either shut up or you've got a serious problem.
alex jones
How many, I mean, looking at the trillions of dollars I'll briefly finish up what we were talking about.
They allowed these international corporations to bring back $360 billion and pay a 5.25% tax on it when the normal tax would have been 33%.
What's going to happen to somebody's retirement?
Somebody, say, has a million dollars saved or $500,000.
bob chapman
I'll briefly finish up what we were talking about.
So they allowed these international corporations to bring back $360 billion and pay a 5.25% tax on it when the normal tax would have been 33%, another sweetheart deal.
And so, you know, everything goes to the corporation and nothing to the worker because they want to do everything in manufacturing and other things offshore.
because it's much cheaper.
alex jones
Now, let's be clear.
The trillions that they're secretly spending, they're admittedly using a lot of that to buy up more raw assets, infrastructure.
They're not spending them, so they're still operating to blow it all out.
They're not trying to fix anything.
bob chapman
No, that's correct.
And, so let's get back to the corporations.
And so they've cut back on the different benefits of the pensioners.
You know, you don't have to pay for half your medical, or you don't get any medical.
And we may have to cut back on your retirement because of the contracts that we've had to sign.
And they go one step further.
and that is that about seventy percent right now of the s_p_ five hundred companies underfunded for their pensions And that ranges anywhere between about 65% and 100%.
alex jones
And that's not just the plunging economy, it's because they may have said it had $50 stock, now it's $1.
bob chapman
That's correct.
They own stocks and they own bonds.
The Dow has come down from $14,100 to approximately $8,000.
You know, my question is, and this is what I believe, I think the market's going to 4,000.
And if I'm right, they're not going to have a heck of a lot of money left.
And if that's the case, your benefits are going to get cut by 50 or 75 percent, whatever the case.
And by that time, we'll be fully into depression.
We've started depression now.
This week is the beginning of the depression.
alex jones
Why did The Economist two weeks ago say we were in a depression?
That's pretty bold.
bob chapman
Well, I didn't hear it.
A couple of them alluded to it.
They were afraid to say it.
alex jones
Well, that was the headline.
The Economist came out and said, we're in a depression.
bob chapman
You know, when you're an independent, you can say what you feel like saying as long as it's based on facts.
alex jones
Bob, briefly, I'm moving quicker because I want to cover a lot with your expertise.
Why are you now saying?
Because, I mean, you said six months ago that by this time we'd be at 8,000.
You're right there.
You've been right all along, almost on everything you've said.
I've been saying depression by the middle of this year.
You've said no, Alex, two years.
Why are you now revising?
bob chapman
Because the damage has been so done and the expeditious action that they've taken.
The unemployment is going to be unbelievable.
The amount of foreclosures are far greater than what is being admitted to by the banks.
The system is far worse off.
We're looking at what the government calls U6 unemployment, which is medium unemployment figures.
And they're putting them out at around 13 percent.
I'm calling them 15 and a half.
alex jones
Okay, how bad then, physically, on the streets of the United States and worldwide is this going to look?
And when do you see the bottom of this?
bob chapman
Well, the bottom's a long ways away.
And I think during this year, that 15 and a half figure We'll climb up over 20 to 22 and the following year it should go up over 30.
alex jones
What's going to happen when the public finds out that they've been hoodwinked by Obama and that he worked for the very same bankers that Bush worked for and that it's all been a screw job?
bob chapman
Well, they're going to be deeply disturbed, but what's going to really call the public to action is my house is gone, my cars are gone, I don't have a job, I'm living in a shelter someplace like a beast, You know, all of our belongings are in the shopping cart, and the only thing I've got left to protect myself is an AR-15.
And this is when it's going to pop.
And when is that?
Probably a couple of years down the line.
alex jones
But that's what we're headed for.
That's what the Pentagon says in their New Army War College report.
So the Pentagon agrees with you, but they work.
A lot of great men and women in there, but they work for the bankers that have done this.
I mean, the FBI training manuals, the media, the demonization by Hollywood of patriots that talked about a New World Order and a banking collapse, and the FBI training manuals I have that they give local police saying the New World Order doesn't exist.
How are they going to square that propaganda saying it doesn't exist, while Henry Kissinger and every other globalist, including Obama, is on TV saying this is the New World Order?
bob chapman
Well, they can't.
And, you know, they've opened a window.
That's the window of opportunity for themselves to institute this new world order.
And when you open the window up, you allow other things to fly out, like the patriots.
And so they're going to have their hands full, because the public of the world, and specifically we're talking about America, people are going to be searching for answers that aren't listening to a program like this.
Later on, they'll say, gee, how did this happen, and what do I do about it?
My court system doesn't work anymore.
All the people I get to vote for, for the most part, are people who are put up and funded by these international bankers.
And so, what can I do?
And, you know, the answer is, well, not very much.
And they'll say, well, gee, I can't feed my family.
So they get out of the store, if there's still food there, and they have to take food for their family.
And that starts the problems.
alex jones
Well, that's the issue.
I still see all these yuppies that think they're part of the elite, and I meet them on the street and stuff.
They still believe in the system.
They say, oh, we've got to do another bailout.
We've got to do the first bailout.
That small minority that believes in the system, they don't understand that it's a bunch of kleptocrats that are in control.
Ted Anderson, 30 years in financing gold and silver, a trader.
I mean, we're not happy.
I know that this is a bull market for gold and silver.
We wish we'd been wrong about all this.
Any comments you've got to make on what Bob Chapman's saying?
unidentified
Oh yeah, well I'm just listening to the whole conversation and how it's going and I know a lot of people are getting lost with the information because they just don't understand what it all means.
Right now we're looking at, I mean, wealth is disappearing.
I shouldn't say wealth.
Money supply is disappearing.
I was talking to Bob earlier and he was saying between 13 to 15 trillion dollars has gone out of the economy just like evaporated into thin air.
alex jones
I've looked at other... And again, allowing the globalists to set up a worldwide fiat system.
People said, oh, let it be fiat that, you know, they care about the economy.
No, we gave criminal bankers the power to loot everything.
They did it.
Bob Chapman.
bob chapman
They did it.
And, you know, Ted, you had that special book there.
The Creature from Jekyll Island, you should talk about that, because people who don't know anything about this, once they read that book, they'll understand what's being done to them.
alex jones
By the way, for folks that don't know, Ted offers the book at cost.
You get a free silver dollar that's over $20 in the market, with the book that's $24 for... for what, Ted?
unidentified
Yeah, well, the book is $24 if you buy it in the bookstore.
The silver dollars are now about $22.50, and then the shipping is $6.40.
I sell the thing for, I think it's $24.45.
So you're losing $30 on that?
Oh yeah, I'm selling it for less than cost.
But the thing about it is, Alex, people need to understand, that's the biggest problem right now.
We've got a lot of people listening to this show, and they're very interested in hearing what they're hearing, but they can't put all the pieces together in their mind as to how it works.
And if they knew how it worked, they'd be going, oh yeah, I could finger write on it.
It's reading like a mystery novel, you know?
alex jones
Yeah, well folks can call and get that book and that silver dollar together as a combo or the free newsletter, International Forecaster, 800-686-237.
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All right, I want to say bye to Ted Anderson and Bob Chapman.
Appreciate them both popping in.
And I got almost cut off by that break.
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Ted, closing comment, and then the Bob Chapman closing comment.
I'm going to blitzkrieg through these calls.
unidentified
Yeah, I can just say real quick.
I mean, the market has just been crazy.
If you're interested in now getting into the precious metals, you should call now.
But mainly, more importantly, educate yourself.
Say, understand.
I mean, this economic system that we're in is heading towards a collapse.
And if you can see the telltale signs and you know what they mean, you can take some precautions.
alex jones
Well, it's not even telltale now, is it, Bob Chapman?
bob chapman
It's not even what?
alex jones
It's not even telltale.
I mean, it's a huge brass band right in front of you.
It's so loud.
bob chapman
That's right.
Absolutely.
And, you know, you don't get deals like this in this kind of a market very often in the inventory that Ted has.
You know, whether it was a professional acumen or luck, it doesn't make any difference.
He's got the product.
He's got it cheap.
and, or should I say inexpensive, and very few others have.
alex jones
Yeah, most people are sold out of gold and silver because that's a whole other show.
The big central banks have been trying to suppress the price, where for the first time in modern history you have the real gold market at 1,000 an ounce, and they had driven it down to 750 an ounce, and even mainstream papers admitted it was rigged, and now they just can't hold it down anymore because the demand has sold out all the gold and silver, 99% of it, and Ted's even having and now they just can't hold it down anymore because the demand So, Bob Chapman, we'll have you continue to pop in as things unfold.
and you too, Ted.
Thanks for the time.
unidentified
Yeah, thanks for having us.
alex jones
You bet.
Take care, man.
All right, now listen.
Here's the deal.
I've got, what, like eight phone calls here?
And I want to go to them.
And I'm going to take them.
But have your question, your comment ready.
I'm giving each of you about one minute, OK?
We'll go to Pam, Tom, Ollie, Scott, Russ, Steve, and one other.
Let's go ahead and go to Pam in Canada.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
bob chapman
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Come on, Pam.
You're on the air.
Welcome.
Okay, there she goes.
I don't know what's going on.
I guess people sit there for 30 minutes.
They're kind of out of it.
Tom in Pennsylvania, you're on the air.
Welcome.
unidentified
Alex, what is going on?
alex jones
Worldwide transmission, sir.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, did you say on your show the other day that you're going to launch a website where you're proving things like point by point?
I think that's what I heard you say.
Did I hear right?
alex jones
I'm not quite sure what you're saying, sir.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Expand it.
Expand what you're saying.
Explain to me specifically what you're asking.
unidentified
No, I'm asking you.
I mean, I thought I heard you say on your show the other day that you're going to launch a website where you're proving things point by point, like you're going to give the background information on each subject and then prove things point by point.
Did you say that?
No.
You didn't?
No.
alex jones
But we have done that.
I mean, we do that all the time.
We write articles all the time, and every comment we make, every statement we make, is backed up by links to legislation, government documents, you name it.
My film, Endgame, whatistheendgame.com, endgamethemovie.com, we'll take you to the URL, has a complete bibliography of every second of the film as you go through it.
So it's all right there for you.
The film, Terror Storm, Uh, has one of those.
So does my Phil Marshall law.
So everything we talk about is documented.
I mean, if I sit there and I read an article about Coast Guards can't start a rescue until they fill out a health and safety assessment, after first filling out the data timeline, the lead rescuer must outline the reason for the journey, detail any risks the team may encounter during the rescue, including both current and forecast weather conditions.
And it goes on to say that when the Coast Guard was first shown this, they thought it was a joke.
They say, uh, But they didn't believe it when they first saw it.
I'm trying to find that quote here.
I mean, that's out of the mail online.
We have a link to it.
Very strange call.
Another very strange call.
Ollie in Canada.
You're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm glad to be on the show.
And I just wanted... I have a lot of questions to ask you, but if you're going to give me one minute, I'm just going to ask one question.
Alex, you said at the beginning of the show that this show is very expanding on people, are becoming really, really, really aware.
Now, my question is that once it reaches the boiling point, which I'm pretty sure the so-called predators have already anticipated, what will they, in your opinion, be on their shoes What will they do to consolidate or maintain their noose or jaw on the prey?
What will they do?
So, just answer me that.
alex jones
Okay.
Very important question.
My job is to point out the corruption, the evil that's going on.
That's a full-time job.
And then I do have solutions, like fight for the Second Amendment, fight for national sovereignty, abolish the Federal Reserve, kick the bankers out, or they'll take over, which they've now done.
Fully.
Gibbonage will take it a million miles.
The criminals running government will stage terror attacks every time people rebel, to then blame it on the people and say, oh look, you're a terrorist, or the provocateur terrorist, to have a pretext, an excuse to attack the public.
They will always stage new crises, outside threats to unify the public around them.
But that's not going to work forever.
But overall, they would stage terror to begin with to get through Agenda 3, so it's better that we be awake and know what we're going into.
Let's continue with your phone calls.
Let's talk to Scott in Seattle.
You're on the air.
Welcome.
unidentified
Yes, thank you for taking my call.
I was kind of interested in your take on this.
I'm wondering who their golden boy or girl is going to be to introduce this National Service Act into Congress now that Carolyn Kennedy has stepped down.
alex jones
Yeah, that's right.
For those that don't know, how are they going to roll out what Obama has officially said he'll do as Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel?
18 to 24, first compulsory domestic military service is a new separate arm under him.
Then they're also going to have big public volunteer groups that do PR, like soup kitchens and things, which sound great as the front for having them as tattletale squads, environmental land grabbing squads.
what they've admitted.
And, yes, they're going to have golden boys.
They're going to have pitch people.
They're already running private ads for Obama and his own private army at taxpayer expense through the Ad Council.
unidentified
Well, you know, it's kind of curious because I don't think most people are aware, but Carolyn Kennedy sat on the committee for the National Service Act along with his former foreign policy advisor, Samantha Power.
alex jones
That's right.
unidentified
So I just thought that it was kind of curious that they would tap her to replace Hillary's seat.
alex jones
Well, now they've got a more conservative pro-gun lady, a Republican, that they're tabbing as the governor can appoint whoever they want.
That's a big controversy, but Carolyn Kennedy had so much baggage not paying taxes and things that she had to step down, like Bill Richardson with weird lobbying deals, and Blagojevich, who came up under Rahm Emanuel.
Rahm Emanuel handled Obama and Blagojevich, and I mean, just look at it, and then Gessner not paying taxes.
I mean, look at these people.
I mean, they are just a pack of weasels.
Thank you, great call.
Great point.
That's what we like here.
Russ in California.
You're on the air.
Go ahead, Russ.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Alex, thank you for having me speak on your show.
You bet.
You are the tip of the spear.
You are the commander.
And you keep going the direction you're going.
I'd like to see sometime on your show, in your new studio, you bring together Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Webster Tarpley.
These gentlemen are so close together.
in their antithesis of fixing the problem, there are probably only 3% to 5% difference between how to fix it.
And I'd also like you to make a comment on, I'm pretty excited here being on.
alex jones
We have Peter Sheff.
We have everybody on.
unidentified
Do another big Willie Nelson, Dixie Chicks, as many.
You are rolling over the Rush Limbaugh's of the world, and we are grabbing a hold of people from the right and left every day.
You keep going forward, get another concert, get another big thing.
Everybody will be... Hollywood is behind you.
Everybody is behind you, Alex.
Go to it.
alex jones
No, I appreciate you, my friend.
The left-right paradigm is being shattered and You know, this isn't just Alex Jones.
It's all of us doing things that are going to wake folks up.
One big thing you can do is tell your friends and family, neighbors about the show, whether it's AM, FM, shortwave internet, satellite, that you listen.
Tell them how they can listen.
That's how we can do the free podcast every day at InfoWars.com.
Listen to how you want, where you want, when you want.
We're on Flycast and a bunch of other systems.
You can listen on your iPhone or Blackberry or your cell phone.
So, yes, it is exponential.
That's why they're trying to shut down the web with net neutrality and taxation.
That's all coming in right now.
Because the establishment can't fight us on a level playing field.
That's why YouTube's erasing 9-11 Truth videos left and right, including some of ours that have millions of views on YouTube.
People say, well then leave YouTube.
No, that's where the crowd is.
That's where we get viral videos.
That's one of the places we spread the word more effectively.
So we will infest YouTube more and redouble our efforts and fight their censorship.
That's what we'll do.
I do want to tell all the other callers, sorry we don't have time to get to Steve and Bill and everybody else that they're patiently holding, but I'll be back tomorrow live on the radio.
Of course, if you don't have an AM or FM in your area, you can always listen at InfoWars.com.
If you do have an AM or FM, spread the word.
And we'll be back, of course, next weekend, 4 to 6 p.m.
with this abbreviated Sunday transmission.
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They can't operate and get away with this if we expose them.
It's so brazen.
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Have a great week.
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