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It is the 14th day of January 2009, Wednesday, and yesterday we told you Bernanke said that more bank bailouts were needed.
Well, today it's pretty much going to be, I give it a 48 hours until Citigroup folds.
Citigroup's death throes may take Pandit too.
You see, Paulson also told you after you handed over 700 billion dollars, which really is He was still going to close some banks.
Some of them weren't going to make it.
And, uh, Citigroup, it's over!
I mean, it was less than six months ago that they started talking about that they were going to have problems, and then I think it was two weeks after that that they said they were going to need the bailout, and these packages were put forth.
some people in Congress stood up to them at first, and then they were threatened with martial law and bamboozled by Obama.
Some of these guys were actually told by Obama that if he was elected, he would make sure that this money is going to go towards mortgages and the people.
Well, I don't see that happening.
Let's read some of this.
It's off MSNBC.com.
As Citigroup nears the end of the decade-long experiment.
To create one-stop shopping for financial services, its chief executive, Vikram Pandit, may be running out of time to turn the company around.
It'll probably be absorbed by Chase Manhattan.
Give Rockefellers a little bit more power.
I could definitely see that happening.
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CNBC's Charles Gasparno reported Wednesday that Pandit is coming under increasing pressure from the bank's Giants board and from the federal government for quick results.
Yeah, they're gonna get quick results by taking your money.
So, Expect some banks to close this week.
I expect that.
That'll probably put just enough fear into the Congress that they'll pass another bailout.
And only Representatives Paul and Kucinich will dare speak out against it, in truth.
I'm not giving everybody credit.
There were a few others that did speak out against the bailout.
But when Kucinich, you know what, I want you to pull up the Kucinich Federal Reserve as Federal Express.
That's just a golden couscous line right there.
By the way, I believe in the second hour, top of the second hour, we're going to have Michael Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com on.
We're going to be doing that via webcam, so all you PrisonPlanet.tv subscribers can tune in and see that live via the web.
You know, a little later on, I guess I'll introduce the story now.
I want to talk about human microchips, and I've been talking about this For quite some time.
But one of the positions I've taken is that I don't think it's going to be like, oh, they're going to put microchips in you forcibly, at least not at first.
I don't think they're going to line everybody up.
Oh, here's your chip.
They're going to make it fashionable.
It's the cool thing to do.
And I've always thought that the easiest way to do this was to go after your children, your kids, the teenagers, people like myself who are into technology.
Who like to sit down and play Halo or Mortal Kombat or video games in general.
We were talking earlier about Citigroup, and it appears that they're already merging with Morgan Stanley.
So, I mean, it's already dead.
The question is, when is it going to get to the point when people start running on their banks And under collapse is imminent.
I mean, Paulson told you more banks were going to go under after the bailout.
And I guess after the bailout, Whamu did go under.
It might have been a little bit before.
I can't remember.
Whamu was bought up.
I guess you haven't seen any really faces of banks and your money being taken outright yet.
But it's really being taken because we're supposed to pay back this bailout, which isn't $700 billion.
It's really in the trillions and trillions of dollars.
understand that, More intricately, I suggest you listen to the Chodosky interview that Jones did a couple weeks ago.
I know it's up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.
Bernanke, CNN Money yesterday, more bank bailouts needed.
So, again, I predict more mergers will happen, more banks will go under, and they'll take more of your money.
But you know what?
President Bush says this is not the main thing that the administration should be Worrying about the most important job I have had and the most important job the next president is going to have is to protect the American people from another attack.
And of course that was Bush yesterday on Larry King, but I have other video of it all over, where he basically says that the next administration is going to do the same thing.
Don't worry.
Newsweek is promoting how Obama shouldn't give up any of the executive powers that were given to him under the Bush and Cheney administration.
Don't worry, we can...
We can trust the Obama administration.
And less than a week out, from the end of the Bush administration, official, Guantanamo detainee was tortured.
And this is out of Fox News, by the way.
Fox News is now reporting that there's actually torture going on at Guantanamo Bay.
Really, Fox?
It seems like you're only about seven years behind the curve.
But of course, you know, they spin the article, they needed to torture him because he was involved in the September 11th plots.
I hate to tell you, but honestly, um, your buddy Chaney there?
The guy who's supposedly the second commander in chief?
No, no, he was involved.
At a captain's type level in the 9-11 attacks.
It's just unbelievable.
All right, I said I would play that clip of Kucinich calling the Federal Reserve nothing more than federal expense.
See, some people are getting hip to their tricks, and Dennis Kucinich is one of them.
Let's play the clip.
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In 1913, the money power of the country was taken away from the people by constitutional privilege.
It belongs with the Congress, but it was given up in the Federal Reserve Act.
The Federal Reserve is no more All right, there you go.
Why are we only talking about just giving bankers money?
That doesn't seem like a great idea.
No, I don't think it seems like a great idea either, Dennis.
I think it's a Morbid and terrible idea in some of the more mainstream news.
I thought I'd go over today Court okay sex between teachers and 18 year old girls.
Now. What's the problem with this?
Well, let's just start off by saying it's a huge problem You know when you get into college, I guess it gets a little more blurry I mean these are 18 year olds they're adults when you when you meet them But these are kids that you've known sometimes since they were in kindergarten and smaller school districts Okay, so at the very least I think that teachers that you know have affairs with their students 18 or otherwise should be fired and Under 18 they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
I Don't think that's too much to ask it happens a lot more than you would think and now that the court has okayed This is out of AAP, Washington State law does not bar teachers from having Consensual sex with 18 year old students and appeals court ruled Tuesday in dismissing a case against a former high school teacher Unbelievable.
Of course, the teacher had three kids, you know, and a wife.
But no big deal.
No big deal.
He's having sex with 18-year-old students.
Come on.
And chances are that this was taking place before she was 18. Just my two cents.
We're going to take your calls after 30 minutes, and then remember, at the top of the second hour, we're going to have Michael Rivero on PrisonPlanet.tv via webcam.
I really want to get his take on the Obama I don't And
yesterday I heard him on his radio program saying that he was already unhappy with a lot of the picks.
Yeah, me too.
He's keeping Robert Gates on.
He's talked about putting more troops into Afghanistan.
You see, it's just going to be a redistribute.
It's a redistribution of troops from Iraq into Afghanistan.
That's all it's going to be.
Our presence in the Middle East isn't going to go anywhere.
Man, on a global scale.
But you know what people are really paying attention to?
They're not paying attention to this, you know, geopolitical We're good.
her virginity online for $3.7 million.
And you know what?
I'm going to talk about it for a second because, number one, it's absolutely ridiculous.
The girl's not doing anything illegal.
It's going to be held at the Bunny Ranch, so everything's sanctioned.
But first of all, she's 22.
Now, do you really believe that a 22-year-old virgin is going to be the type of girl to sell it on...
I don't know what auctioning network it is, for $3.7 million?
The guy that pays, you know, $4 or $5 million for it gets what he deserves.
I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous.
It shows you how degraded the entire society is, when that's one of the top stories.
And yeah, she's being bashed in the media, but just the fact that somebody's willing to pay millions and millions of dollars for that should let you know that there are sickos out there that are willing to pay even more for child snuff films or even worse, you know, to be with a child, Barney Frank, you know, and then still stay into Congress and push the bailout, you know.
You know what?
Barney Frank really does need to be exposed.
More and more and more.
I mean, when you're running an underage male brothel out of your home through your prostitute boyfriend, and then you threaten Congress, when it becomes public, that if they don't back off, you're gonna out everybody.
I mean, I don't think this is the type of guy we should be listening to.
I don't think we should be, you know, listening to the types of guys and administrations that plant other, you know, male prostitutes in the White House.
James Guckert, James Gannon.
And have them pose as members of the media, fake right-wing blogs under assumed names, and then, you know, be on 4 or 5, you know, a.m. tours of the White House.
What's going on there?
Well, it's pretty obvious what's going on there.
But the public can see that on the mainstream.
It can be on, you know, CNN headline news and in the news, but, you know, it's a big joke.
No one can put two and two together.
Boy, those reporters are pretty dumb when they want to be, huh?
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You know, if you've got two rating or a one rating, you're not for real.
We know that.
But there are plenty of people with, you know, ratings in the hundreds that are bidding on this.
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We'd like to hire some more staff here at the InfoWars office.
We'd like to put on more programs.
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But, uh, it's a short-staffed operation, and the money bomb really helped.
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Tyranny Crusher 1. Somebody's going to get it.
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It really is a piece of history.
This story also caught my eye today, man, really blitzing through the news in the first 20 minutes.
Courts try to decide what to do with Manuel Noriega.
Now remember Manuel Noriega, 26-year CIA veteran, helped us ship in the cocaine from Panama and South America.
That guy.
And then as soon as it started going public, what did we do?
We went in, we got him, we treated him like the enemy.
As soon as he tried to really get under the grips of United States control, he held a couple summits with other South American leaders and basically was saying, you know, how can we get away from these guys?
What can we do?
And the U.S. didn't like that and now he's been demonized and he's been held for about 16 months longer Then, uh, then his sentence commanded.
But they're asking what should they do with him.
Well, number one, they probably never want to let this guy speak in a public forum again because he knows too many of the American players.
I'm surprised they haven't killed him.
He's 74 years old.
In fact, have we ever seen Noriega on television ever in any type of trial or hearing since they got him in the 80s?
You know, I'd love someone to call me in and call into the show and let me know, because I don't think we have.
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Noriega was captured in Panama by U.S. military forces, completing his prison sentence for drug trafficking and money laundering in September of 2007, but remains in prison until the courts can decide where he should go.
But they don't want him to openly speak about working with U.S. intelligence to ship in cocaine.
I'm sure that's not on the agenda.
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I think anybody with half a brain who realizes what's really going on in that region of the world, them trying to build a Eurasian Union, much like the North American Union here, only they're trying to get the North American Union,
Hey, um, have you seen the January's edition of Newsweek where it says the new global elite and it has Barack Obama in the center of that portrait?
You know, I was looking at the cover there.
I was looking for maybe some Masonic and cultic symbols because, you know, after all, the new global elite.
And I couldn't really find anything.
But then it struck me.
There's two big globes above Barack Obama, the eastern hemisphere and the western hemisphere.
And the decorations they use, if you look at it from a distance, it's a perfect owl, like Moloch.
He's the center, his face is the beak, his body is the mouth, and the globes are the eyes, and if you look at the decorations on the page, it's the shape of an owl.
It has the feathers, it has that diagonal sort of shape of an owl.
Very interesting, I thought, haven't heard anyone put that out.
Really? What are they saying, that it's an eyesore on the lawn or it's against some kind of code?
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You know, they brought in trailers down the road from me into a park and they were just all over my property with automatic weapons and all that stuff.
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I thank you for the call.
Folks, that's a good way to get the message out.
Other than the bumper stickers, putting up signs, I wish people would plaster their neighborhoods more with the bumper stickers.
A lot of people put a bumper sticker on a car.
Yeah, people read those, but...
I find them so much more effective on lampposts, city style.
I mean, you really get somebody's attention.
And that's what we need.
We need people to pay attention to what's going on.
We need people to take a look, you know, not just buy into what the media has to say about the matter.
Or, you know, the bailout, for one.
Or the war.
You know, because everybody's like, Barack Obama's gonna end the war in the Middle East.
He's not ending anything.
Anything. It's still going on.
He's not going to give back any powers.
He just had Rahm Emanuel named as his Chief of Staff.
This guy's talking about conscription.
We got a book coming out a week before Obama takes office calling for conscription.
In fact, we're going to play those conscription clips again.
Tom Blankley, Washington Times.
Saying, hey, we need mandatory military service from everybody in this country.
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So I pulled up this new Global Elite Newsweek cover.
I can definitely see what he's talking about with the Moloch resemblance and the two eyeballs, but it has a lot of duality.
Basically, it's a mirrored image.
The left side is the right side, mirrored.
Um, Tex Mars would probably have a ball with it.
And I hope he checks it out.
You know, someone shoot him an email.
I'm not a huge expert.
I do read, you know, I read the books they carry here.
I've read Codex Magicka, Mysterious Monuments is in my bathroom right now.
Another great way to support us, get a copy of those books.
I think Tex does great work.
So later on we'll be showing that Newsweek cover.
It is awfully bizarre.
But right now, before I go back to your calls, I'd really like to play, let's play this MSNBC clip first, and then we'll play what was on Fox& Friends two days ago.
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The constitution of the military draft should be considered, and has always been an option on the table.
A Pentagon spokesman frankly rejected the idea today, saying that the military is giving the idea, quote, absolutely no consideration, unquote.
But is it time to revive conscription for the first time since Richard Nixon?
Back to discuss it are Democratic strategist Stephanie Cutter and editor of the Washington Times editorial page, Tony Blankley.
Tony, it just seemed to me political year.
Nobody's going to recommend a return to the draft.
But is the draft a good idea or is a partial draft a good idea?
We've got 5,000 troops in the Army.
It is breaking, according to the Army Chief of Staff, on the basis of two small guerrilla wars.
Now, is the U.S. Army big enough and strong enough to handle all the commitments this country's got?
First of all, it's not going to happen on Bush's watch, because there's not time for that debate to occur.
But the military clearly is not big enough to do the job that's going to be required of it in a world that we live in today and into the foreseeable future.
All right, right there he says, not going to happen on Bush's watch, because it's not time for that debate yet.
No, the time has come when we have Obama saying that everybody needs to give a new service, a new sacrifice for the United States of America.
And now our good buddies at Fox and Friends are now promoting this man's book, which is on the shelves two days ago, a little over a year later.
And it's called Grit, I believe.
And I'm sure it's going to be a New York Times number one bestseller.
And what's he calling for?
Let's hit the clip.
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Seven minutes before the top of the hour.
Can America's power last forever?
And how do we achieve a new nationalism that puts our country's survival first?
Those questions and more are addressed in a brand new book by Tony Blankley.
It comes out today.
It's called American Grit.
What will it take for America to survive and win in the 21st century?
And joining us for his first TV interview about the book is Tony Blankley.
Tony, good morning to you.
Good morning, thank you.
You know, if you read some of the European papers, they're talking about America is finally in decline.
They're getting what they've had coming to them all along.
Do you believe that?
Well, it could be so.
We have it in our power not to be in decline, and that's what my book's about.
I do believe that for the first time in our history, if we don't do a lot of things smart and tough, we could get overwhelmed by the rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of radical Islam.
We've failed to exploit our energy.
We're not paying enough attention to what our kids are learning.
Bill Ayers is actually a senior person in guiding the curriculum design of America.
That started just this last week.
Yeah, Tony, your book's going to get a lot of attention because there are some controversial, bold suggestions.
The first one, obviously, that caught my eye was that you were calling for a universal draft, which would mean that all 18-year-olds in America would have to serve for two years.
Yes, look, I don't like it.
I love the Volunteer Army.
I've got a son who's a second lieutenant in the Volunteer Army.
I know the young men and women who serve, they're the greatest young kids we've ever produced.
But we don't have enough troops, and it's manifest that we don't by several magnitudes.
For instance, when George Bush wanted to have the surge, he was told by the senior generals...
I'd rather have that, but we just can't surge and stop wars without more people.
No, it's never going to be enough.
There's always going to be these backdoor excuses.
It's total doublespeak.
We could have been in and out of Iraq at any moment.
Any moment.
But that wasn't the plan.
The plan is to build a Eurasian Union.
So we're going to stick it out.
And as we...
De-escalate troops over there.
We're just going to re-escalate troops in Afghanistan, maintaining our United States military presence in the Middle East.
I mean, it's so simple.
And then you're going to have goons like this go, I wish we could keep that same military in the cover story of the regular Newsweek, not the new global elite issue, with Obama and all this symbolism on the cover.
Is the article we covered here yesterday Obama's Cheney dilemma.
It's his Cheney.
Oh, you know, we just admitted on Fox News that we torture people in Guantanamo Bay and maybe these powers aren't the best thing ever but Don't worry.
The Obama administration is gonna use these powers.
Well, we're not gonna get rid of any of them And that's literally what this three-page article is talking about it's It's probably even more in the magazine Um, but it, you know, it's unbelievable.
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It is a liberal shibboleth that torture doesn't work.
I guess, I guess it's not, I guess it's not surprised it was called on this show.
But, you know, they're like, oh, he's going to have to face these difficult choices, and we really need Obama to face these difficult choices with all these powers, because these powers are important.
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
All right, we're going to go back to your calls.
I mean, of course the Obama administration is not going to get rid of this stuff.
Of course the wars are going to keep going in the Middle East.
Of course there's going to be more of a consolidation of power by the bankers.
All right, let's go to Mike in Ohio.
Mike, what's on your mind?
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Okay, Manuel Noriega.
Let me tell you what I recall about all that.
I was serving in the military at that time.
Here was somebody, now keep in mind, I've studied this thing, the globalism, since about 1983 is when I had a look at things and started looking at things oddly.
He was a sidebar player and all this.
I can remember looking, watching NBC News Uh, the news media ramped up on him about, uh, ten days prior to their invasion, which means troops were already getting ready to go down there.
Uh, it was an evening, uh, a weekday evening, uh, maybe a Monday evening.
He was on, uh, they showed him, uh, behind a podium giving a speech to his people, and he was waving the saber around.
You may recall seeing that, and he said, I'm going to tell the world what George Bush is about, who he really is.
He got up the next morning, turned on the television, there were 27,000 troops on the ground.
They're in Panama.
And that's how they went.
No, you've never heard anything out of him.
They've stuck him in a prison in Miami somewhere.
You've never heard him up in front of a judge telling his side of the story.
Yeah, so what do you think is going to happen now?
I mean, France is asking for his extradition.
They're claiming that the Geneva Conventions entitled him to this.
Of course, his liars are saying, hey, he just served his sentence and this is a non-wartime And he served his sentence, so why isn't he being extradited home?
Of course they don't want his story out.
What do you think will come of Manuel?
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I think that he'll probably go to Europe, be let go there.
Just like other people it's happened to in the past.
He'll be in France, they'll turn him loose, you'll never hear anything about him because the news media will not cover him.
He'll be, as I said, given some sidebar status in the media, and you'll never hear from him, period.
You might hear something about him in the European media.
Most of the people here in this country only speak a single language anyway, so it won't matter anymore.
Well, they said that there were known felons there.
Okay. And the church, it's a registered, you know, church and everything, is run by a kind of radical local guy and it was just basically, as it turns out, just a shakedown to scare him.
After the riot, the Chico Police Association posted on YouTube a propaganda video saying how Proposition 215 causes crime and how they need more police officers because of the local riot.
You know, on my way over here, I believe I was listening to the fact that now they're trying to pass a ruling where there'll be a new marking on meat, and no longer will it just be USDA-grade beef.
It'll be beef from all over, or produce from all over the world, and it'll just have a new sticker on it saying it's other country.
And if we're going to start shipping in other countries'meat, which I think is a completely insane idea, number one, because it'll kill the farm here, and number two, it probably won't be as healthy, folks.
I can totally see that.
It's unreal what we've done.
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Okay, now I've been following Mr. Paul, and I'm a big supporter.
I've read his book.
I've actually lent out his book to several people to read for themselves to hopefully get them to realize, you know, I mean, a good politician and what a good politician stands for.
But I was just looking around on YouTube this morning, and I seen this video about Ron Paul and Freemasonry.
Now, I know there's a lot of disinformation out there, but I try to continue to do more research on All right.
I've never seen him interacting with somebody else and throwing up a sign.
I mean, apparently he's got some arthritis in his hands.
I mean, I've thrown up the Hook Em Horns.
And not because I'm a Texas fan.
Because I was an ignorant kid at rock shows, you know what I mean?
I'm not Masonic at all.
Yeah, you know, when I see world leaders doing it, you know, when I look at, you know, Tex Marr's information that I plugged earlier today, I give him about, first of all, he comes at it from a massive Christian perspective, you know, I don't think that he is able to come in from a, you know, kind of like a blind perspective.
He does take the Christian route, but at the other end of it, he does know a lot of these Babylonian symbols, these Masonic symbols, these mystery religions, things that You know, I'm not as familiar with, so I take that stuff with a grain of salt.
I think there's no doubt when you see somebody like Pat Robertson on the cover of Time Magazine throwing up the bear claw that he's throwing up the bear claw.
You know, and I think a lot of these George Bush and family rocking the hook'em horns at the inauguration ceremony ain't the hook'em horns.
I don't think, you know, Ron Paul is on the team of the Masons.
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I'll send it to you an email but it definitely has the well it's got the big worlds on the top right hand side I saw it it's also it's a mirror image from the middle which is kind of popular right now in t-shirts and even you know artwork and you know again I mean just the outline of Obama himself you know, I mean, they're promoting this.
I just don't like how somebody who's unproven, somebody who is a state senator, For most of his career.
Somebody who comes out in 2004, gives the Democratic National Convention keynote address.
He's then put into the actual Senate, and he serves less than four years in the actual Senate in 2007, is when he actually, and believe me, it was planned before 2007, he was going to be running for president, but he announces it in 2007, and he wins.
And it's not just, vote Obama, vote Obama.
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Well, unfortunately, I think we're heading into a very, very dark time economically and politically and what you said about more and more people tuning into the alternative media, Genesis Communication Network, our various websites and the blogosphere is a continuation of a trend as more and more American people and basically around the world come to understand that the corporate Media is really a disinformation channel.
They're turning away from it.
They're turning to the alternative media to try and find out what's going on.
In a lot of ways, this mirrors what we saw leading up to the decline and fall of the former Soviet Union, where the Russian people became very dissatisfied with what they were getting from Pravda and Izvestia.
They began to realize there was a lot of lying and deception going on.
They created their own populist media, the Samizdat, to get information around.
And ultimately, Where do you think all this bailouts going?
I mean, we had Bernanke yesterday saying, look, we need more bailouts.
Before that, Paulson said, the bailouts that have come through, we're going to have more banks closed down anyway.
And we still have not heard what the Obama stimulus package is going to be.
We're now six days away from him coming into office.
I mean, personally, I'm not too thrilled with his Chief of Staff pick, Rahm Emanuel.
This is a guy that's calling for mandatory conscription of 18- to 25-year-olds.
So, I mean, when you saw his speech and he said, you know, this is going to be a time of great sacrifice and service for you, the people, do you think that that's in the cards?
Do you think that we might have conscription?
And where do you think all this banking mess is going to go?
Well, as far as the conscription is concerned, it should be very obvious that Israel is trying to kick off a major regional war in the Mideast in which the United States will find itself mired in once again young American men and young American women I think?
to be playing bullet catchers for israel's expansionist policy so that's definitely in the works ram emmanuel is very much in favor of that he's very supportive of israel uh he's one of these individuals where we have to ask where do their true loyalties lie and if it's not with
the united states why isn't he in such a position of power as far as the economy and the bailouts uh it is it's it's running absolutely out of control but you need to understand that the whole point of the bailouts isn't so much where the money is being spent it is merely that it is being borrowed and and created because if you look at the way our federal reserve operates money does not exist until somebody is there to borrow it.
When you sign that loan document at the bank, the bank literally creates the money you've borrowed out of thin air.
That's how the Federal Reserve System works.
So what happened this last year is that the American people prudently Prudently stopped their borrowing.
They slowed down because as our manufacturing jobs left to other countries, Americans realized we don't have the money to pay these debts, so we're not going to borrow as much.
Yeah, and we'll be paying it back, but we're not going to have any jobs to pay it back.
So we're going to be in an interesting situation.
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I mean, obviously, you know, Kerry was a front in 2004 to throw the election to Bush.
I mean, he won the election, he didn't demand a recount, he didn't demand they even really count the votes at all.
And then his new climate czar, his pick is global warming czar, because we need a czar for global warming.
Carol M. Browner, one of the 14 leaders of the Socialist Group Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for global governance.
Of course, when the Washington Times printed this article and people got wind of it, it was taken off within hours.
Really not impressing me so much with the cabinet.
I mean, he actually cracked jokes during the debate that he was going to have Hillary Clinton on his squad.
Then him and Hillary snuck away together in DC.
Snuck away together in DC on the weekend of the Bilderberg meeting.
And Gergen actually talked about that meeting.
You know, they said there was a secret meeting.
First it was at Clinton's house, then later they said it was at Dianne Feinstein's.
My guess is that it was probably with members of the Bilderberg Group.
I kind of want to get your opinion on that too, Michael.
But Gergen called it and said that they were probably talking about what her position was going to be, whether it was going to be Secretary of State or possibly somewhere else in the administration.
What do you think about these backdoor secret meetings with Hillary Clinton?
Do you think that they were over at the Bilderberg Group?
I think at the point where Hillary realized that she was not going to be able to win the nomination, she wanted to make the best deal for herself with Barack Obama and held over his head the nuclear option of getting her supporters to back John McCain.
And I think up until the point that McCain picked Sarah Palin as his running mate, it was a credible threat.
But I think John McCain erred on that, or maybe he was just looking at the way the country is headed and decided at the last second maybe he didn't want to be president after all.
And I said, let's get a vice president that will end my candidacy graciously and I'll take the rest of my campaign war chest and retire quietly.
Yeah, there's obviously been a lot of deal-making going on.
Barack Obama obviously has made a lot of deals, which is why we have so many of the old Clinton cronies showing up in his administration.
And it is very distressing for people who wanted to listen to his message of change that we can believe in because we're not seeing change.
Yeah, the guy in the Oval Office is different, but everything around him basically harkens back to the 1990s.
And I'm very distressed by Hillary Clinton coming out and saying that she's just not going to negotiate with Hamas because, like it or not, Hamas is the elected government of another country and that's the Secretary of State's job, is to talk to the elected government of other countries.
And Hillary's starting out saying, I'm not going to do my job, let's just drop bombs and get it over with.
I mean, Obama's openly talking about a redistribution of forces into Afghanistan.
I mean, yes, we're going to see a de-escalation in Iraq, but he says we're going to send more troops into Afghanistan.
I mean, I feel like all they're doing is keeping their presence there as more stabilization occurs in Iraq.
I feel like the big plan is the Eurasian Union, obviously.
You know, Israel is our ally.
Saudi Arabia, we're still pretty much doing positive dealings with.
The only rogue in that region is really Iran.
I mean, Pakistan and India, you could argue, but Biden's out in Pakistan trying to smooth things over this week after the Mumbai attacks.
Well, I feel like he's over there basically to see how much he has to cover up for our end.
I mean, obviously, you know, Biden is well aware of the ISI.
He knew about the funding of the hijackers.
We covered that in Fabled Enemies.
There's no doubt about it.
He was on the floor on the 12th talking about pretending to be our friend in Pakistan.
Yet he's meeting with the head of the ISI at that point.
He knows of the dealings there.
And so he goes there now after the Mumbai attacks.
You know, lead back to an ISI asset, a CIA asset, and the governments of India are openly saying that Pakistani intelligence was involved, so he has to go over there.
I don't think that we really want to bomb Pakistan, although that's been in the news lately too.
I think we're probably going to go into Pakistan or we're going to support India going into Pakistan because if you look at the geography of the region, you have got Afghanistan to the north which is pretty much under US control nominally.
You have India which is very much an ally of the United States.
For China to be able to send pipelines through to Middle East oil, they must go through Pakistan.
So if we can turn Pakistan into a war zone, then that cuts China off from one of the resources This is
Prevent Russia from supporting Iran, but when that war didn't work out so well I think that's when the push to invade Iran began to wane when they couldn't keep Russia out of the region So they shifted over to Pakistan now Israel's talking about a bombing attack on Iran's nuclear infrastructure again It's definitely a lot of chaos and as I like to tell my own listeners We're in a very awkward stage in our planet's history and Where all of our immediate future is basically being determined by whichever world leader is the least
mentally stable, and we've got some real nutcases in power right now.
So you think that Iran is relatively going to be put on the back burner, and that the real conflict may be in Pakistan.
I hope you're wrong.
I hope that installing a new dictator will at least, you know, wave that off.
You know, I figured that's what they were trying to do, do it diplomatically.
But the rhetoric is there.
I mean, They're talking about them being the new big enemy, and I think that just one type of terror event, either here or in Europe, being blamed on Pakistan could be the catalyst to send, you know, our forces or NATO forces or UN forces in there, and that would be a total and complete nightmare.
That might be, you know, most people are saying the Iran conflict was what was going to spark, you know, World War III, but a conflict with Pakistan could very well do the same.
And the issue here isn't whether we want to go into Iran or we want to go into Pakistan.
There are numerous players and numerous factions and each has their own agenda.
Israel still wants us to attack Iran.
The U.S., I think, has decided they can't do it because they can't keep Russia from intervening militarily.
So now they're looking at Pakistan, if for no other reason than to block off China's access to Middle Eastern oil and force them to come do business with the United States for their petroleum.
And, uh, you know, again, it's that chessboard around the oil fields that's really in play.
You think that Russia is unhappy with its place in the world?
I mean, obviously there was a play, like you said, in that South Ossetia-Georgian conflict to see what kind of a world power they still were.
Do you feel like they feel like they don't want to be a second world nation in this global order?
I mean, that's how I feel like the play is, you know?
I mean, you had Putin and Bush sitting next to each other At the Olympics, as this conflict's going on, I don't think that Putin is very happy with the way that he was treated, and I don't think that he's very happy with, you know, the U.S. basically trying to build a North American Union here at home, and I really do believe trying to build a Eurasian Union right around the corner from their home.
Well, I don't think it's a question of whether Russia wants to be number one or number two.
I think Russia, certainly looking at what Putin was doing right after he got rid of the oligarchs, I think he wants peace and prosperity for his people because his own political fortunes are dependent on that.
But he lives, unfortunately, in a time when there are some very belligerent nations who see their own fortunes greatly improved by major warfare.
I mean, setting aside for the moment Israel's obvious push for for war in Lebanon, war in Iran, war against Syria, war against Jordan, the list goes on.
We have in the United States a large number of people who are looking at our economic problems and thinking that a major war at least will disguise the symptoms, give them something to blame it all on.
I mean, Americans will put up with the lack of food, lack of clothes, lack of fuel if they think there's a war going on and they have to rally around the flag.
And if you look back at the history of America's participation in major wars, Each one happened just as the United States was dealing with a major depression.
There was a depression in the early 1900s.
We got out of that by going into World War I, with that whole deception over the Lusitania.
We were in the Great Depression just before Roosevelt got us into World War II with the Pearl Harbor deception.
So now we're in serious economic trouble.
People are saying, this is a new depression.
And sure enough, we have the US government that's out there saying, let's kick off a major war and crank up the defense industries and make bombs and just, you know, at least everybody will be distracted from how bad things are because there's a war on and we've got to rally around the flag.
And I think that's their thinking.
And it's not going to work this time because first of all, Because of the alternative media, the American people know they're being lied to about these situations.
They're not going to trust the government's story about any new war.
Second of all, the United States is not the industrial powerhouse it was for World War I and World War II.
We can't sustain the kind of manufacturing output it takes to support a major global war.
And our economy is already in a shambles.
I think a new major war will be the end of the United States.
I think it very well could be because if you look at the historical precedent for the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, Rome began to decline when they spread their legions so thin they only had to lose one up in Germany and then they could no longer police their global empire and the little fringe nations began breaking away and the revenues to Rome dropped and Rome sank into debt and collapsed.
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Let's try to keep it on topic.
I'd appreciate if we could keep away from the spooky hand signals and the race wars.
Some people, man.
I mean, they're just unbelievable.
We got real, real issues to talk about here.
We got a new administration coming in in six days.
We've got people like Colin Powell, Joe Biden, and Madeleine Albright all warning us about a crisis.
Now, at first, I didn't give much credence to this.
I thought it was political rhetoric, especially on Biden's part, to try to get him elected.
And, you know, I didn't take much stock in what Albright said.
But when Colin Powell gave a date of the 21st or 22nd, it definitely spooked me out.
Some people have tried to point to the fact that he said that before the economic crisis hit television.
But I really, I don't know.
Do you give any credence to that, Mike?
Do you think that there's going to be something coming up on the 21st or 22nd?
I mean, it could just be The announcement of more bank collapses, who knows?
I'm very hesitant to name a date like the 20th or the 21st and again this gets back to the comment about so many different factions right now each pushing their own agenda and I am certain that there are some people who are thinking that a new 9-11 is going to advance their particular situation.
They are being balanced by, I hope, a larger majority who are saying that the American people are already suspicious of the first 9-11 and a second one is going to be a very reckless I don't know.
and risky proposition.
But again, it's not like the government is operating in a united, monolithic sense.
There's a lot of different players, and they're all doing what they think is going to be in their own best interests.
You know, I agree with you there, and, you know, people say, well, why do you keep bringing up 9-11?
It's because the mainstream media constantly brings up 9-11.
Today on Fox News, foxnews.com admitted that they torture people at Guantanamo Bay, but of course, the guy they were torturing was a suspect in the 9-11 attacks, and he later confessed that he was involved, so it's okay.
And then you've had those military tribunals that have made the news in the past couple months of these supposed 9-11 suspects outside of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
Of course, we'll see nothing more than transcripts.
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Mickey Rourke just won the Golden Globe for uh...
the wrestler actually watch it i like the movie i think he actually might even deserve an Oscar for it but then he gets interviewed and what what's the headline it's not all Mickey Rourke wins the global Golden Globe no Mickey Rourke says bush did the right thing after 9/11 to the terrorists Of course, Mickey Rourke is going to weigh in.
And the sad thing is, Mike, more people are going to listen to him because he's in the movies and on television than are going to listen to you or me, because that's the kind of society we live in.
Well, I think that was the conventional wisdom a long time ago, but I'm not certain that's true anymore, first of all, because I think thanks be to people like Paris Hilton and her ilk.
People are realizing that celebrities may look very good and make a very hot weekend, but they're not necessarily really up to date on what's going on.
And to balance them, of course, you have people like Charlie Sheen and Willie Nelson and Rosie O'Donnell who have laid their careers on the line to speak truth to power.
And these are being viewed as modern-day heroes and heroines.
And so I think Mickey Rourke may ultimately in the long run have marginalized himself with that comment.
But, you know, I just, it leads me to the sheeple-like mentality of people that, you know, they're more interested.
I mean, Paris Hilton can have how many, like six or seven reality shows, and people still tune in.
She still makes money on television just being her regular idiotic self.
And people worship that and glorify it.
And I think that's why we're in the situation we are with the banks in the Middle East, is because people aren't paying attention.
I was impressed that most people weren't for the bailout, but when I'd be in a bar and I'd be talking to the local Republican business owner, oh no, man, if we don't have this bailout, we're going to go under.
It's explaining every single great thing about the bailout that the news media was using as talking points three months ago.
And now when the news media says, oh my God, we're in the worst economic situation since the Great Depression, they're still saying, well, we need another bailout.
Well, you have to remember that the Republican Party was actually emailing these talking points out to business owners because I own a small business and I actually got one of these myself.
And it is simply propaganda because everyone is always debating about who's going to get the tax burden in the next administration.
So the GOP wanted to keep the tax breaks George Bush gave them.
The Obama supporters want the tax breaks to go to them this time.
And what they need to do is unite and say, look, taxes on everybody are too high and we need to back off.
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I mean, the reality is Hamas is the elected government of Palestine.
Hamas had basically followed the ceasefire for the last six months.
Israel now admits Hamas was not firing rockets into Israel at the time when Israel broke the ceasefire on November 4th by attacking Gaza.
So Israel is clearly in the wrong here.
And again, if you go back to United Nations Resolution 242, Israel is supposed to be out of the occupied territories, not building new settlements and going in and just behaving very rudely.
So they can't win on points of international law.
They can't win on morality.
They can't win on the facts.
So they're going to drag out bin Laden and use him to basically tarnish anybody who is speaking out for peace.
The problem with that is that more and more people are well aware that, oh, Well, Osama bin Laden appears to have actually died in December of 2001, and every Osama since then appears to be some permutation of Wag the Dog video production.
And yeah, they're using the dead guy one more time.
Yeah, it's unbelievable, and you know, there's a movie out there about Jimmy Carter, and I'm not a huge Jimmy Carter fan, but Jimmy Carter came out with a book not so long ago called Peace, Not Apartheid, and it was all about the Israeli and Palestinian conflict, and there's a documentary that just goes through his book tour, and it's something very palatable for the mainstream, for somebody like your uncle or your aunt or your cousin that doesn't really know about this stuff, but knows who Jimmy Carter is, and I suggest people get that.
All right, let's go to calls.
Let's go to Paul in Florida.
Paul, what's on your mind?
Paul, are you with us?
Yes, sir.
unidentified
I'm so happy to be able to get through today.
I'm a first-time caller, but I've been listening since the beginning of Alex Jones way back.
I've listened to Genesis before he was on.
Awesome. What I want to talk about is the first thing you mentioned with this new guest is conscription.
It says, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for a crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Well, yeah, the way they get around that is during the military draft, there's a point where they say, all of you who choose to serve the United States, step forward.
And they construe this to mean that you are volunteering, therefore the 13th Amendment does not apply.
But yeah, we have a government that is absolutely ignoring the Constitution, which in my point of thinking, delegitimizes them already, along with all the obvious lies.
So, and we also need to go back to that little brochure that the FBI has distributed to police departments around America that anybody who's talking about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights needs to be reported as a potential terror suspect.
So obviously our government really isn't paying attention to the Constitution.
It's just something, as George Bush says, it's a blank blank piece of paper.
Absolutely. And, you know, it reminds me of the days that my, uh, my history teacher used to carry a pocket constitution around all the time and he was very proud of this fact and he would whip it out whenever, you know, there was a question.
He'd say, well, actually, this part of the constitution says that I don't have to do that.
And now he's supposedly a potential terrorist.
Geez, I just thought he was trying, someone who was trying to help.
All right, let's go to Rocco.
Rocco, what's on your mind?
You there, Rocco?
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm here.
I'm here.
How are you?
Good. Hey, listen, I just want to remind the folks out there, you know, about this new administration coming in and what their future plans are for this country.
And, you know, I'm extremely, I guess, hopeful and optimistic that Obama is not going to end up being who he is.
You know, everyone fears he might be, but you never really know until, you know, you guys in office and you give him a try and you see what he actually does.
Sure. But, you know, one thing that I'm really concerned about is, you know, a loss of freedom and a loss of rights in this country.
And, you know, I mean, how much freedom did we have against the terrorists of 17-17?
People were actually, you know, on the streets shooting themselves.
And then we forget that in the 1800s, the British actually came and burned Washington, D.C. and didn't have the Patriot Act.
We didn't have all of our rights taken away.
We weren't having our phone calls listened in on and everything else.
So, you know, I feel like there's a bigger agenda going on.
I think that is a very, very dangerous article that came out.
It's a very dangerous idea.
I think if Obama really wants to bring about change we can believe in, he has to start reversing many of those executive orders.
Because this whole idea that, yeah, these orders are dangerous to the liberties of the American people, but trust your leaders, they won't abuse them.
I think that's absolutely ridiculous.
The whole reason for having a Bill of Rights and a Constitution was the recognition by our founding fathers that People in positions of power are just human beings and they're subject to human frailties and weaknesses, and power attracts the very kind of people who ought not to have it.
And so, in point of fact, it is dangerous to allow these executive orders to stand.
Yeah, I wish that he would rescind them all immediately.
What really gets me is the tone of the article, where they're defending torture in many cases, where they're saying, You know, it's basically making every excuse in the book to keep these orders, and because it's a new face, it's not a problem.
No, it's a problem because it gives people in the executive branch an obscene amount of power when we were supposed to have checks and balances in this country.
That's why there's three branches of government, folks.
Okay? Judicial, executive, and legislative.
But the executive has just gotten so out of control with its powers, I mean, the line is not only blurred, it's gone.
It's myspace.com slash Jason Burmess, because Aaron does get quite overwhelmed.
I do try to read all the messages that I get.
I may not reply to all of them, but I'd love to see it as well.
Yeah, I mean, it's pretty much in the open.
Even, you know, Dobbs, one of the few people that actually reports what's going on in this country, recently did something about the Securities and Prosperities Partnership, and the Obama administration is opening talks again.
You know, it's just like the Trans-Texas Corridor gets reported last week that it's dead.
No, they just renamed it.
It's under a different project.
They're not going to tear the road down that they've built.
They're going to continue to build it.
I'm Hey Jason, nice to talk to you.
unidentified
I wanted to thank you and the Lose Change crew for turning me around about three years ago.
I'm calling from prison camp Iowa State.
They recently had a protest going on against the Gaza invasion, and yesterday they had it going on in front of the Memorial Union, I guess, and one of the administrators came out and told them, sorry, you can't do that here.
If you do not move to one of the designated free speech zones, you will be arrested.
Mike, why don't you talk about these designated free speech zones?
Because most people think, oh, we have free speech in this country, we can talk about whatever we want, but as soon as we talk about anything that matters in this country, or anything that matters about Israel and Palestine, all of a sudden we don't have those same rights, do we?
It's a slap in the face of every American who ever died defending the Constitution and the Bill of Rights through all the wars we fought up to this point.
And basically what it means is you have freedom of speech, but the government reserves the right to put you in a special free speech zone, which means you're away from the press, you're away from the public, and you can say whatever you want.
As long as you're in these places where nobody can hear you.
And it's a very disingenuous way of handling the situation because the whole point of free speech is that you are to be heard.
It isn't necessarily the right to speak out what you're saying.
It is a right to share your thoughts and your ideas with your fellow Americans.
whether that's in the public square, on TV, in the newspapers, or here on the Internet.
And this was really born right before the 2004 elections when the Democratic National Convention, the Republican National Conventions were coming to big cities like Boston and New York, and they didn't want a visible protest outside.
So they create these pens, you know, miles away or two miles away.
It's unbelievable.
I thank you for the call.
And that's why Alex Jones has used his bullhorn, Tyranny Crusher 1, to circumvent these kind of things.
When they won't let you near him, well, you're going to hear his voice anyway.
And we're happy to say that that is Reached over $50,000 on eBay, and today is the last day you can bid on that.
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Alright, let's go to our next caller.
Let's jump to Fred in Philly.
Fred, what's on your mind?
unidentified
Hey, it's good to hear from you again.
What do you think about the possibility that there's no country in the world that really isn't bankrupt at this point?
First of all, countries that still make things, that have factories, they're not really bankrupt because they can still make goods and have goods and services in that country.
Secondly, some countries still have precious metals that are always going to retain value.
Not so much the countries, but the leaders of those countries and the elites in those countries.
Silver, gold, platinum, this is stuff that's retained value for thousands of years, so that's not going to go anywhere.
As far as countries already being bankrupt, What's the debt rate?
What's the deficit in this country right now, Mike?
Yeah, it absolutely is, and it's going to be way more than that next year.
And I think what the caller is talking about is the fact that when you have a monetary system that is based on debt, as we do in the United States with the Federal Reserve, the problem with such a monetary system is that more money is owed than actually exists.
And so the system will work as long as there's always a new young generation of borrowers coming in at the bottom of the pyramid to prop up the system.
But what happened here in the United States and is happening around the world is You don't have those new borrowers coming in and so the whole system's beginning to collapse.
You thought Bernie Madoff had a really ugly pyramid scheme but the entire Federal Reserve System is a pyramid scheme as well because it can only exist and perpetuate as long as there are always more and more borrowers coming in at the bottom of the system to allow the creation of new revenue.
I wanted to follow up on something Mike Rivero said about getting around the 13th Amendment, which was true as far as he went.
Basically, you do volunteer in, I heard this from an old Air Force buddy of mine, the way you get around it, at least in the past, and I think this is still probably valid, when they ask you, alright, everyone who volunteers, you know, take two steps forward or whatever.
You do an about face and take three steps backwards.
And probably you're going to have a sergeant in your face for the next 48, 72 hours barking at you and trying to make you feel like you're the scum of the earth.
But they can't force you to volunteer is the bottom line.
You know, I just don't say, you know, I think it's just like that argument of common law and the IRS, the people that are out there.
I mean, there is no real law in the book for the, you know, federal income tax, but you know, they're going to come after you with the IRS and the military.
I'm just saying if they come out with a mass conscription for people where they say conscription's happening, and you get in line and you say, I'm not going to do it, they're going to throw you in the brig, man.
I mean, I find it hard pressed that they're just going to let you go.
And we know that they want to build a domestic civil force.
I mean, that's what Homeland Security was about, being brought in after 9-11.
You know, that's just one facet of it.
We have Homeland Security offices right around the corner of the new office.
I mean, it's an expanded bureaucracy.
So I can see them giving you the choice of whether you want to serve in the armed forces or you want to serve domestic surveillance at home.
But I don't think they're going to give you the choice to just walk away.
It won't be just...
I don't believe like they're just going to try to, you know, convince you to take one or the other.
I think that they're going to Basically say you do this, or you're going to jail, or you're going to military prison, or you're going to regular prison.
Yeah, I think looking back at the case of Aaron Watada, he was absolutely legally in the right to refuse to serve in a war that he felt was illegal.
That was a principle.
It's in the U.S. Uniform Code of Military Justice.
It is the principle that came out of the Nuremberg war trials, and yet they kept prosecuting and prosecuting and prosecuting him, just trying to wear him down.
Exactly. They have unlimited funds, and it doesn't matter to them if you're going to have to spend your car payment or your house payment to try to fight these guys.
They'll fight you tooth and nail.
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With us, Michael Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com, streaming live from the web over at PrisonPlanet.tv.
Again, I love the new office.
I love how we're expanding.
It's just the coolest I get to sit in for Alex Jones for a week anyway.
Then we get to have these great guests on, and the technology just keeps getting better and better and better.
Mike Rivero also in my latest film, Fabled Enemies.
You can get that over at InfoWars.com or if you're a PrisonPlan.TV subscriber, you can watch it free, streaming the web, download it, burn it to disk, hand it out to your friends.
I think it's an important film.
It really lays out the International Intelligence Agency that carried out 9-11.
You know, it goes away from the physical anomalies.
It shows that there's another story out there other than controlled demolition in World Trade Center Building 7, although that's obviously part of it.
Mike, in the final segment we have you here, I'd really like you just to go over the Gaza situation, the latest updates and what's happening there and, you know, basically how we can put pressure on our government to really try to solve what's going on there instead of just taking the side of the Israelis blindly and promoting all this expansionism and imperialism.
Well that is a very very difficult question because I think it's been made very clear to the United States people that Congress is not listening to us anymore.
They certainly didn't with the bailout this last week.
Both houses of Congress stood up and nearly unanimous, it was unanimous in the Senate, voted approval for what Israel is doing.
And the bottom line as far as Israel and Gaza is concerned is Israel likes to pretend they own that land in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.
They do not.
It belongs to the Palestinians.
United Nations Resolution 242 has ordered Israel out of the occupied territories, and Israel does not want to go because they covet that land.
Now, the bottom line is, for the last 60 years, we've had all of this tremendous misery, war, killing, tremendous upset coming out of the Middle East, and it all comes down to one and only one cause.
Israel demands for itself the right to exist and the right to a state, but denies that same right to its neighbors.
And that is really the heart of this entire conflict.
Israel will not grant to others that which it demands for itself.
All Israel has to do to bring peace to the Mideast is simply grant to the Palestinians their right to exist and their right to a state.
That was the original plan in the United Nations partition plan for there to be an Israeli nation and a Palestinian nation.
And Israel said, we will not go along with that.
David Ben-Gurion then proclaimed Israel to be in existence and said, we do not acknowledge Palestine's right to exist.
Whereupon the other Arab nations said, well, if you're not going to acknowledge Palestine's right to exist, we don't acknowledge your right to exist.
And that is the root cause of all of the How do you see it all ending?
Do you think it's going to be a global conflict in the Middle East where a Eurasian Union is born and really Israel has the central role in governing that area?
I know that's certainly what Israel would like to see happen, and I think Israel would not mind at all if the United States and Russia got into a mutually destructive war, which left Israel with its nuclear arsenal able to project power over that half of the world at least.
So, as to what's really going to happen, time alone will solve that mystery.