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unidentified		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
		It is the 14th day of January 2009, Wednesday, and yesterday we told you Bernanke said that more bank bailouts were needed.
		Well, today it's pretty much going to be, I give it a 48 hours until Citigroup folds.
		Citigroup's death throes may take Pandit too.
		You see, Paulson also told you after you handed over 700 billion dollars, which really is He was still going to close some banks.
		Some of them weren't going to make it.
		And, uh, Citigroup, it's over!
		I mean, it was less than six months ago that they started talking about that they were going to have problems, and then I think it was two weeks after that that they said they were going to need the bailout, and these packages were put forth.
		some people in Congress stood up to them at first, and then they were threatened with martial law and bamboozled by Obama.
		Some of these guys were actually told by Obama that if he was elected, he would make sure that this money is going to go towards mortgages and the people.
		Well, I don't see that happening.
		Let's read some of this.
		It's off MSNBC.com.
		As Citigroup nears the end of the decade-long experiment.
		See, the bank is an experiment now.
		Your money is an experiment.
unidentified		It's funny.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		It's funny to them.
		To create one-stop shopping for financial services, its chief executive, Vikram Pandit, may be running out of time to turn the company around.
		It'll probably be absorbed by Chase Manhattan.
		Give Rockefellers a little bit more power.
		I could definitely see that happening.
unidentified		CNBC's Charles Gasparno reported Wednesday that Pandit is coming under increasing pressure from the bank's Giants board and from the federal government for quick results.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, okay.
		Yeah, they're gonna get quick results by taking your money.
		So, Expect some banks to close this week.
		I expect that.
		That'll probably put just enough fear into the Congress that they'll pass another bailout.
		And only Representatives Paul and Kucinich will dare speak out against it, in truth.
		I'm not giving everybody credit.
		There were a few others that did speak out against the bailout.
		But when Kucinich, you know what, I want you to pull up the Kucinich Federal Reserve as Federal Express.
		That's just a golden couscous line right there.
		By the way, I believe in the second hour, top of the second hour, we're going to have Michael Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com on.
		We're going to be doing that via webcam, so all you PrisonPlanet.tv subscribers can tune in and see that live via the web.
		You know, a little later on, I guess I'll introduce the story now.
		I want to talk about human microchips, and I've been talking about this For quite some time.
		But one of the positions I've taken is that I don't think it's going to be like, oh, they're going to put microchips in you forcibly, at least not at first.
		I don't think they're going to line everybody up.
		Oh, here's your chip.
		They're going to make it fashionable.
		It's the cool thing to do.
		And I've always thought that the easiest way to do this was to go after your children, your kids, the teenagers, people like myself who are into technology.
		Who like to sit down and play Halo or Mortal Kombat or video games in general.
unidentified		The video game generation.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		It's my generation.
		And I always thought that the next-gen systems would try and incorporate microchip technology and this was reported, what was this, December?
		So over a month ago I noticed this so I just remembered it today and I wanted to print it out.
unidentified		Interested in microchip implants for gaming?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Sega's Yu Suzuki is.
unidentified		Venerated Sega developer Yu Suzuki, you know the guy who did Virtua Cop, hang on, changed the way people played.
unidentified		His titles have been revolutionary regarding how players interact with arcade games and arcade game cabinets.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		But Suzuki thinks there's more that can be done.
		Like? Like arcade game players getting chipped, as in getting some sort of motion-controlled implant.
		It'll be more than just motion control, by the way.
		It'll read your thoughts.
		At least somewhat.
		While interviewing Suzuki for Arcade Mania, he told us about the interest in new ways of interacting with games.
unidentified		In medicine, you have artificial hearts, or people that have some sort of chip in their body to be able to keep track of vital signs.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So it's a scary thing, but not that scary when you want a game.
		Alright, it's the Alex Jones Show.
		I am Jason Verma, sitting in all week.
unidentified		please go to Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.
		May I have everybody's attention, please?
		I've come with a message of information.
		9-11 was an inside job!
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Do you like being a puppet, sir?
unidentified		Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Was it engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR?
unidentified		The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.
		Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
		An inside job?
		How dare you!
		If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.
		All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.
		And if the government has not told the truth in 5 years, we will be here on the 10th anniversary of 9- Truth Rising.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Download the film at prisonplanet.tv right now.
		Or get the DVD at infowars.com.
		It's now time to take the revolution to the next level.
unidentified		Phase One of the Insiders' plan for a One World Government has been initiated with the recent bailout.
		International bankers and power brokers have engineered the current crisis to create a new currency and a new World Bank to act as savior.
		But we've only seen the beginning.
		Their next engineered crisis will be on a scale never before seen in modern times.
		Shortages and empty shelves will spread fear and panic across the land.
		The Insiders have discovered that they must control two things to seize total power.
		Phase 1 is a one-world currency, which we are currently being prepared to accept.
		Phase 2 of their insidious plan is complete control of our food supplies.
		Go to www.foodshortageusa.com for the details.
		That's www.foodshortageusa.com.
		To learn how to prepare for the unthinkable, don't wait for empty shelves.
		Learn how to make your own survival foods for pennies on the dollar.
		Go to foodshortageusa.com or call 877-327-0365.
		That's 877-327-0215.
		I can't seem to remember anything anymore.
		What? Seriously, my memory and attention span is terrible.
		I read something and forget.
		I forget people's names.
		I hear all this great information on the radio and I want to tell people, but I forget.
		I... Okay, slow down.
		Poor attention and memory loss is not your fault.
		Factors like fluoride in the water, aluminum in deodorants, genetically modified foods, the way the education system taught you.
		It's all meant to dumb you down.
		You know, I can remember everything now.
		Even entire books.
		What? How?
		There is this website called School of Phenomenal Memory.
		Their online course is a real breakthrough in the field of memory improvement.
		In fact, they guarantee that every single person will be able to memorize any type of information.
		Wow. What's the website?
		Now, don't forget, it's pmemory.net.
		The letter P, memory.net.
		The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents The Alex Jones Show.
		Because there's a war on for your mind.
		The Genesis Communications Radio Network Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		We were talking earlier about Citigroup, and it appears that they're already merging with Morgan Stanley.
		So, I mean, it's already dead.
		The question is, when is it going to get to the point when people start running on their banks And under collapse is imminent.
		I mean, Paulson told you more banks were going to go under after the bailout.
		And I guess after the bailout, Whamu did go under.
		It might have been a little bit before.
		I can't remember.
		Whamu was bought up.
		I guess you haven't seen any really faces of banks and your money being taken outright yet.
		But it's really being taken because we're supposed to pay back this bailout, which isn't $700 billion.
		It's really in the trillions and trillions of dollars.
		understand that, More intricately, I suggest you listen to the Chodosky interview that Jones did a couple weeks ago.
		I know it's up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.
		Bernanke, CNN Money yesterday, more bank bailouts needed.
		So, again, I predict more mergers will happen, more banks will go under, and they'll take more of your money.
		But you know what?
		President Bush says this is not the main thing that the administration should be Worrying about the most important job I have had and the most important job the next president is going to have is to protect the American people from another attack.
		And of course that was Bush yesterday on Larry King, but I have other video of it all over, where he basically says that the next administration is going to do the same thing.
		Don't worry.
		Newsweek is promoting how Obama shouldn't give up any of the executive powers that were given to him under the Bush and Cheney administration.
		Don't worry, we can...
		We can trust the Obama administration.
		And less than a week out, from the end of the Bush administration, official, Guantanamo detainee was tortured.
		And this is out of Fox News, by the way.
		Fox News is now reporting that there's actually torture going on at Guantanamo Bay.
		Really, Fox?
		It seems like you're only about seven years behind the curve.
		But of course, you know, they spin the article, they needed to torture him because he was involved in the September 11th plots.
		I hate to tell you, but honestly, um, your buddy Chaney there?
		The guy who's supposedly the second commander in chief?
		No, no, he was involved.
		At a captain's type level in the 9-11 attacks.
		It's just unbelievable.
		All right, I said I would play that clip of Kucinich calling the Federal Reserve nothing more than federal expense.
		See, some people are getting hip to their tricks, and Dennis Kucinich is one of them.
		Let's play the clip.
unidentified		In 1913, the money power of the country was taken away from the people by constitutional privilege.
		It belongs with the Congress, but it was given up in the Federal Reserve Act.
		The Federal Reserve is no more All right, there you go.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Dennis, bravo.
		I really wish we could get the couscous on.
		I mean, he's on the floor.
		He's the one saying, you know what?
		We don't need the Federal Reserve.
		And this is part of the problem.
		Why are we only talking about just giving bankers money?
		That doesn't seem like a great idea.
		No, I don't think it seems like a great idea either, Dennis.
		I think it's a Morbid and terrible idea in some of the more mainstream news.
		I thought I'd go over today Court okay sex between teachers and 18 year old girls.
		Now. What's the problem with this?
		Well, let's just start off by saying it's a huge problem You know when you get into college, I guess it gets a little more blurry I mean these are 18 year olds they're adults when you when you meet them But these are kids that you've known sometimes since they were in kindergarten and smaller school districts Okay, so at the very least I think that teachers that you know have affairs with their students 18 or otherwise should be fired and Under 18 they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
		I Don't think that's too much to ask it happens a lot more than you would think and now that the court has okayed This is out of AAP, Washington State law does not bar teachers from having Consensual sex with 18 year old students and appeals court ruled Tuesday in dismissing a case against a former high school teacher Unbelievable.
		Of course, the teacher had three kids, you know, and a wife.
		But no big deal.
		No big deal.
		He's having sex with 18-year-old students.
		Come on.
		And chances are that this was taking place before she was 18. Just my two cents.
		We're going to take your calls after 30 minutes, and then remember, at the top of the second hour, we're going to have Michael Rivero on PrisonPlanet.tv via webcam.
		I really want to get his take on the Obama I don't And
		yesterday I heard him on his radio program saying that he was already unhappy with a lot of the picks.
		Yeah, me too.
		He's keeping Robert Gates on.
		He's talked about putting more troops into Afghanistan.
		You see, it's just going to be a redistribute.
		It's a redistribution of troops from Iraq into Afghanistan.
		That's all it's going to be.
		Our presence in the Middle East isn't going to go anywhere.
		Man, on a global scale.
		But you know what people are really paying attention to?
		They're not paying attention to this, you know, geopolitical We're good.
		her virginity online for $3.7 million.
		And you know what?
		I'm going to talk about it for a second because, number one, it's absolutely ridiculous.
		The girl's not doing anything illegal.
		It's going to be held at the Bunny Ranch, so everything's sanctioned.
		But first of all, she's 22.
		Now, do you really believe that a 22-year-old virgin is going to be the type of girl to sell it on...
		I don't know what auctioning network it is, for $3.7 million?
		No, she's probably a liar!
		And you know what?
		The guy that pays, you know, $4 or $5 million for it gets what he deserves.
		I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous.
		It shows you how degraded the entire society is, when that's one of the top stories.
		And yeah, she's being bashed in the media, but just the fact that somebody's willing to pay millions and millions of dollars for that should let you know that there are sickos out there that are willing to pay even more for child snuff films or even worse, you know, to be with a child, Barney Frank, you know, and then still stay into Congress and push the bailout, you know.
		You know what?
		Barney Frank really does need to be exposed.
		More and more and more.
		I mean, when you're running an underage male brothel out of your home through your prostitute boyfriend, and then you threaten Congress, when it becomes public, that if they don't back off, you're gonna out everybody.
		I mean, I don't think this is the type of guy we should be listening to.
		I don't think we should be, you know, listening to the types of guys and administrations that plant other, you know, male prostitutes in the White House.
		James Guckert, James Gannon.
		And have them pose as members of the media, fake right-wing blogs under assumed names, and then, you know, be on 4 or 5, you know, a.m. tours of the White House.
		What's going on there?
		Well, it's pretty obvious what's going on there.
		But the public can see that on the mainstream.
		It can be on, you know, CNN headline news and in the news, but, you know, it's a big joke.
		No one can put two and two together.
		Boy, those reporters are pretty dumb when they want to be, huh?
		You know, that's why we need your help here.
		And right now, Tyranny Crusher 1 is over the $50,000 mark on eBay.
		This is the last day that you're going to be able to bid on it.
	I think it's about 13 hours away from total doneness.
	Now, there's probably going to be a lot of fake bids on there because people think they're funny.
	You know, people want to hurt this operation.
	And, you know, the guys that are running it aren't the most savvy on eBay, so they don't know how to just immediately block somebody when it's obviously a fake bid.
	You know, if you've got two rating or a one rating, you're not for real.
	We know that.
	But there are plenty of people with, you know, ratings in the hundreds that are bidding on this.
	And we hope that you guys can take it to the next level.
	We'd like to hire some more staff here at the InfoWars office.
	We'd like to put on more programs.
	We'd like to make more movies.
	But, uh, it's a short-staffed operation, and the money bomb really helped.
	I mean, the difference in the two offices here are night and day.
	I mean, night and day, from what they were only six months ago, when I first, you know, came down to Austin, Texas.
	So, you know, help us get to that next level.
	Tyranny Crusher 1, on sale on eBay.
	Right now, it's your last chance to bid on it, today.
	Tyranny Crusher 1. Somebody's going to get it.
	Somebody's going to get the sign Tyranny Crusher 1. It's going to make a great mantelpiece.
	It really is a piece of history.
	This story also caught my eye today, man, really blitzing through the news in the first 20 minutes.
	Courts try to decide what to do with Manuel Noriega.
	Now remember Manuel Noriega, 26-year CIA veteran, helped us ship in the cocaine from Panama and South America.
	That guy.
	And then as soon as it started going public, what did we do?
	We went in, we got him, we treated him like the enemy.
	As soon as he tried to really get under the grips of United States control, he held a couple summits with other South American leaders and basically was saying, you know, how can we get away from these guys?
	What can we do?
	And the U.S. didn't like that and now he's been demonized and he's been held for about 16 months longer Then, uh, then his sentence commanded.
	But they're asking what should they do with him.
	Well, number one, they probably never want to let this guy speak in a public forum again because he knows too many of the American players.
	I'm surprised they haven't killed him.
	He's 74 years old.
	In fact, have we ever seen Noriega on television ever in any type of trial or hearing since they got him in the 80s?
	You know, I'd love someone to call me in and call into the show and let me know, because I don't think we have.
unidentified		Noriega was captured in Panama by U.S. military forces, completing his prison sentence for drug trafficking and money laundering in September of 2007, but remains in prison until the courts can decide where he should go.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So many people want a piece of him.
		But they don't want him to openly speak about working with U.S. intelligence to ship in cocaine.
		I'm sure that's not on the agenda.
		It's the Alex Jones Show!
		I am Jason Burma, sitting in all week.
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		As many people know, ever since President Nixon took us off the gold standard, the U.S. dollar has been devaluating.
		What people don't know, however, is how this directly affects your personal finances.
		Is there a way to prevent your portfolios from losing value?
		The answer to all of this is gold and silver.
		They have both maintained their purchasing power for 6,000 years.
		If you had had $100,000 in cash and $100,000 in gold and silver back in 1913 and kept them both until now, your cash would actually have the buying power of only $4,800, but your gold and silver would have the buying power of $3,000,000.
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tom brokaw ▲ ● ▼		Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
unidentified		The enemy struck America on September 11th.
brit hume ▲ ● ▼		But who is the enemy?
unidentified		Bin Laden.
		This is his ammo.
		We have to look to the Middle East.
		We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
		Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
brit hume ▲ ● ▼		Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
unidentified		Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
		Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
		The headlines are clear.
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		Coming up at the top of the hour, we have Michael Rivero of...
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		WhatReallyHappened.com and later in the show, we have Ray McGovern.
		You know, I want to get McGovern's take on Robert Gates sticking around for at least another year and the movement of troops over into Afghanistan.
		So, you know, I could see McGovern almost being pro that move of putting troops in Afghanistan.
		You know, buying into the fact that we have to have more of a stronghold there, but I think we should be getting out of the Middle East altogether.
		I don't know about you folks.
		I think anybody with half a brain who realizes what's really going on in that region of the world, them trying to build a Eurasian Union, much like the North American Union here, only they're trying to get the North American Union,
		Ted! Hello?
unidentified		Am I on?
unidentified		Yes, Ted.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		What's on?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you're on.
unidentified		Oh, sorry about that.
		Hey, um, have you seen the January's edition of Newsweek where it says the new global elite and it has Barack Obama in the center of that portrait?
		You know, I was looking at the cover there.
		I was looking for maybe some Masonic and cultic symbols because, you know, after all, the new global elite.
		And I couldn't really find anything.
		But then it struck me.
		There's two big globes above Barack Obama, the eastern hemisphere and the western hemisphere.
		And the decorations they use, if you look at it from a distance, it's a perfect owl, like Moloch.
		He's the center, his face is the beak, his body is the mouth, and the globes are the eyes, and if you look at the decorations on the page, it's the shape of an owl.
		It has the feathers, it has that diagonal sort of shape of an owl.
		Very interesting, I thought, haven't heard anyone put that out.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you can get us an image of it, I have not seen the latest Newsweek, this is the cover you said?
unidentified		Yeah, it's covered.
unidentified		Just Google it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, well, we'll try to do that.
		And if you can, if you can Google it, send us the image and send it over to erinainfowars.com.
		Maybe we can put it on the PrisonPlanet.tv later.
		Thank you for the call, Ted.
		Alright, let's go to Roy in Michigan.
		Roy, what's on your mind?
		Hello? Yes, Roy.
unidentified		Yeah, you know, in front of my house I have a billboard, which has got inforars on it, but along with who did 9-1-1 and all that.
		But it's a 12-foot high and 61-foot long, and I would like to take it and send a picture of it.
		But right now, when you're over the target, you're going to get heated.
		I've been getting a lot of heat.
		They're taking me to court on it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Really? What are they saying, that it's an eyesore on the lawn or it's against some kind of code?
unidentified		It's been up, I've had the billboards up and they've added to them over the years.
		They've been up for about 12 years.
		And, you know, they fly me with helicopters and they do all that stuff.
		At one time they had a, they had camped about me here.
		You know, they brought in trailers down the road from me into a park and they were just all over my property with automatic weapons and all that stuff.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, why wouldn't they SWAT team you when you're trying to get the message out of truth?
unidentified		Well, they'd never SWAT team me.
		They just, uh, they would get off my property and take the fire off guns, or off to the back of my property and fire off these automatic weapons.
		And then they'd fire me from time to time with, you know, these jets, which are, they're amazing to me.
		They'll fly right down to where my bunker is at, which is a distance from my house.
		It'll take a stop and turn around and fly right back out again.
		How they do that is beyond my imagination.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, Roy, you're an enemy of America.
		How dare you promote Infowars.com, but we need more people like you.
		I thank you for the call.
		Folks, that's a good way to get the message out.
		Other than the bumper stickers, putting up signs, I wish people would plaster their neighborhoods more with the bumper stickers.
		A lot of people put a bumper sticker on a car.
		Yeah, people read those, but...
		I find them so much more effective on lampposts, city style.
		I mean, you really get somebody's attention.
		And that's what we need.
		We need people to pay attention to what's going on.
		We need people to take a look, you know, not just buy into what the media has to say about the matter.
		Or, you know, the bailout, for one.
		Or the war.
		You know, because everybody's like, Barack Obama's gonna end the war in the Middle East.
		He's not ending anything.
		Anything. It's still going on.
		He's not going to give back any powers.
		He just had Rahm Emanuel named as his Chief of Staff.
		This guy's talking about conscription.
		We got a book coming out a week before Obama takes office calling for conscription.
		In fact, we're going to play those conscription clips again.
		Tom Blankley, Washington Times.
		Saying, hey, we need mandatory military service from everybody in this country.
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		So I pulled up this new Global Elite Newsweek cover.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		We'll be showing it later when we broadcast on PrisonPlanet.tv.
		Remember, we have Mike Rivero coming up in less than 30 minutes.
		And we also have Ray McGovern in the following hour.
		Now, I guess this isn't, you know, the regular weekly issue.
		It just has Obama in it.
		I can definitely see what he's talking about with the Moloch resemblance and the two eyeballs, but it has a lot of duality.
		Basically, it's a mirrored image.
		The left side is the right side, mirrored.
		Um, Tex Mars would probably have a ball with it.
		And I hope he checks it out.
		You know, someone shoot him an email.
		I'm not a huge expert.
		I do read, you know, I read the books they carry here.
		I've read Codex Magicka, Mysterious Monuments is in my bathroom right now.
		Another great way to support us, get a copy of those books.
		I think Tex does great work.
		So later on we'll be showing that Newsweek cover.
		It is awfully bizarre.
		But right now, before I go back to your calls, I'd really like to play, let's play this MSNBC clip first, and then we'll play what was on Fox& Friends two days ago.
unidentified		The constitution of the military draft should be considered, and has always been an option on the table.
		A Pentagon spokesman frankly rejected the idea today, saying that the military is giving the idea, quote, absolutely no consideration, unquote.
		But is it time to revive conscription for the first time since Richard Nixon?
		Back to discuss it are Democratic strategist Stephanie Cutter and editor of the Washington Times editorial page, Tony Blankley.
		Tony, it just seemed to me political year.
		Nobody's going to recommend a return to the draft.
		But is the draft a good idea or is a partial draft a good idea?
		We've got 5,000 troops in the Army.
		It is breaking, according to the Army Chief of Staff, on the basis of two small guerrilla wars.
		Now, is the U.S. Army big enough and strong enough to handle all the commitments this country's got?
		First of all, it's not going to happen on Bush's watch, because there's not time for that debate to occur.
		But the military clearly is not big enough to do the job that's going to be required of it in a world that we live in today and into the foreseeable future.
		As you say, two small wars.
		Alright, stop it right there.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, right there he says, not going to happen on Bush's watch, because it's not time for that debate yet.
		No, the time has come when we have Obama saying that everybody needs to give a new service, a new sacrifice for the United States of America.
		And now our good buddies at Fox and Friends are now promoting this man's book, which is on the shelves two days ago, a little over a year later.
		And it's called Grit, I believe.
		And I'm sure it's going to be a New York Times number one bestseller.
		And what's he calling for?
		Let's hit the clip.
unidentified		Welcome back, everyone.
		Seven minutes before the top of the hour.
		Can America's power last forever?
		And how do we achieve a new nationalism that puts our country's survival first?
		Those questions and more are addressed in a brand new book by Tony Blankley.
		It comes out today.
		It's called American Grit.
		What will it take for America to survive and win in the 21st century?
		And joining us for his first TV interview about the book is Tony Blankley.
		Tony, good morning to you.
		Good morning, thank you.
		You know, if you read some of the European papers, they're talking about America is finally in decline.
		They're getting what they've had coming to them all along.
		Do you believe that?
		Well, it could be so.
		We have it in our power not to be in decline, and that's what my book's about.
		I do believe that for the first time in our history, if we don't do a lot of things smart and tough, we could get overwhelmed by the rise of China, the rise of India, the rise of radical Islam.
		We've failed to exploit our energy.
		We're not paying enough attention to what our kids are learning.
		Bill Ayers is actually a senior person in guiding the curriculum design of America.
		That started just this last week.
		Yeah, Tony, your book's going to get a lot of attention because there are some controversial, bold suggestions.
		The first one, obviously, that caught my eye was that you were calling for a universal draft, which would mean that all 18-year-olds in America would have to serve for two years.
		Yes, look, I don't like it.
		I love the Volunteer Army.
		I've got a son who's a second lieutenant in the Volunteer Army.
		I know the young men and women who serve, they're the greatest young kids we've ever produced.
		But we don't have enough troops, and it's manifest that we don't by several magnitudes.
		For instance, when George Bush wanted to have the surge, he was told by the senior generals...
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, stop it right there.
		See, look at all these excuses.
		I love the Volunteer Army.
		I'd rather have that, but we just can't surge and stop wars without more people.
		No, it's never going to be enough.
		There's always going to be these backdoor excuses.
		It's total doublespeak.
		We could have been in and out of Iraq at any moment.
		Any moment.
		But that wasn't the plan.
		The plan is to build a Eurasian Union.
		So we're going to stick it out.
		And as we...
		De-escalate troops over there.
		We're just going to re-escalate troops in Afghanistan, maintaining our United States military presence in the Middle East.
		I mean, it's so simple.
		And then you're going to have goons like this go, I wish we could keep that same military in the cover story of the regular Newsweek, not the new global elite issue, with Obama and all this symbolism on the cover.
		Is the article we covered here yesterday Obama's Cheney dilemma.
		It's his Cheney.
		Oh, you know, we just admitted on Fox News that we torture people in Guantanamo Bay and maybe these powers aren't the best thing ever but Don't worry.
		The Obama administration is gonna use these powers.
		Well, we're not gonna get rid of any of them And that's literally what this three-page article is talking about it's It's probably even more in the magazine Um, but it, you know, it's unbelievable.
unidentified		It is a liberal shibboleth that torture doesn't work.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		That suspects will say anything, including lies, to stop the pain.
unidentified		But the reality is perhaps less clear.
		Obama, keep the torture.
		It's unreal.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I guess, I guess it's not, I guess it's not surprised it was called on this show.
		But, you know, they're like, oh, he's going to have to face these difficult choices, and we really need Obama to face these difficult choices with all these powers, because these powers are important.
		Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
		All right, we're going to go back to your calls.
		I mean, of course the Obama administration is not going to get rid of this stuff.
		Of course the wars are going to keep going in the Middle East.
		Of course there's going to be more of a consolidation of power by the bankers.
		All right, let's go to Mike in Ohio.
		Mike, what's on your mind?
unidentified		Okay, Manuel Noriega.
		Let me tell you what I recall about all that.
		I was serving in the military at that time.
		Here was somebody, now keep in mind, I've studied this thing, the globalism, since about 1983 is when I had a look at things and started looking at things oddly.
		He was a sidebar player and all this.
		I can remember looking, watching NBC News Uh, the news media ramped up on him about, uh, ten days prior to their invasion, which means troops were already getting ready to go down there.
		Uh, it was an evening, uh, a weekday evening, uh, maybe a Monday evening.
		He was on, uh, they showed him, uh, behind a podium giving a speech to his people, and he was waving the saber around.
		You may recall seeing that, and he said, I'm going to tell the world what George Bush is about, who he really is.
		He got up the next morning, turned on the television, there were 27,000 troops on the ground.
		They're in Panama.
		And that's how they went.
		No, you've never heard anything out of him.
		They've stuck him in a prison in Miami somewhere.
		You've never heard him up in front of a judge telling his side of the story.
		Nothing. That's how far back they put him.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so what do you think is going to happen now?
		I mean, France is asking for his extradition.
		They're claiming that the Geneva Conventions entitled him to this.
		Of course, his liars are saying, hey, he just served his sentence and this is a non-wartime And he served his sentence, so why isn't he being extradited home?
		Of course they don't want his story out.
		What do you think will come of Manuel?
unidentified		I think that he'll probably go to Europe, be let go there.
		Just like other people it's happened to in the past.
		He'll be in France, they'll turn him loose, you'll never hear anything about him because the news media will not cover him.
		He'll be, as I said, given some sidebar status in the media, and you'll never hear from him, period.
		You might hear something about him in the European media.
		Most of the people here in this country only speak a single language anyway, so it won't matter anymore.
		And besides that, it's 20-some years in the past.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you know what?
		It still matters in the fact that we can expose it and let people know.
		There's still a lot of people in denial.
		They don't realize that the United States government runs the hard drugs in this country.
		I thank you for the call.
		I'm glad somebody did call.
		On topic today.
		What do you know?
		On topic phone calls.
		And, uh, I have to agree with him.
		I think that he might get extradited to another prison in France, though.
		France might just get their turn at him.
		And what the French will do, they'll purge him for intel that they don't have.
		They'll try to piece some of the pieces together on the lower levels that happened in the 80s.
		Not that it isn't an international intelligence organization at the top, because it completely and totally is.
		But yeah, I don't think you're going to hear from me either.
		I'm kind of shocked that this is even in the news.
		It was updated just before I got into the studio.
		Alright, let's go to Brad in California.
		Brad, what's on your mind?
unidentified		Hey, shout out from Chico here in California.
		I just wanted to update you guys on some things that are going on here.
		Yesterday's show reminded me of this, about the farm people getting raided.
		About a year and a half ago, I lived on the property of a church here in Chico that was raided by the police for no reason.
		They had no warrant.
		Fifteen to twenty armed men came on the property, some of them dressed in riot gear, roused us all out of the house.
		Took our IDs and just scared the crap out of us, basically.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And why did they do this?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		What was their excuse for coming here?
unidentified		Well, they said that there were known felons there.
		Okay. And the church, it's a registered, you know, church and everything, is run by a kind of radical local guy and it was just basically, as it turns out, just a shakedown to scare him.
		He was running for Congress at the time.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Really? So nobody actually got charged with anything?
unidentified		Nobody got charged with anything at all.
		Wow. They took all of our information, took all of our IDs, made us all come out of the house.
		They didn't come in the house.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Probably because they didn't have a warrant.
unidentified		Yeah, it was a 50 acre property and they came and took all of our info.
		And that's just one incident.
		I mean, recently there was a riot here at Chico State with the students.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I didn't hear anything about that.
unidentified		You can see it on YouTube.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Really? And what were they rioting about?
unidentified		Well, it doesn't stop there.
		The police, the city council passed a local ordinance here prohibiting large gatherings of people.
		And so what they went and did is broke up all the parties around campus all at one time.
		So they flushed about 1,500 drunk college students into the street all at one time.
		And lo and behold, they showed up all in riot gear with the fire truck spraying everybody down and everything.
		What a coincidence.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Really? And it's on YouTube?
unidentified		Yeah, it's on YouTube, Police Riot.
unidentified		Yeah, just check Chico Riots and you'll see.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're definitely going to check that out.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we can have Aaron do a story on it.
unidentified		Yeah, look here, it doesn't stop there.
		After the riot, the Chico Police Association posted on YouTube a propaganda video saying how Proposition 215 causes crime and how they need more police officers because of the local riot.
		But look at it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So basically they're trying to turn this incident into more funding for them.
		Not a shock.
		I thank you for the call, Brad.
		Hopefully Dice can take a look at this.
		Hey, how's it going?
unidentified		Just to, yesterday I was listening to your show and at the end a gentleman was talking about buying a cow.
		You're right.
		I live near Ann Arbor.
		If you live in Ann Arbor in an apartment, you can't have a cow.
		You'd know if he got on your couch.
		Exactly. But what they did here in Washtenaw County is you owned a cow in Indiana.
		And then when you paid for the milk, you didn't buy the milk.
		You were just paying for the feeding and care of the cow.
		You got the milk and the cheese for free.
		And they got raided and busted by the USDA because of interstate commerce.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, they'd have been in Michigan, they'd have been alright.
unidentified		But because the cows were in Indiana and they crossed state lines, the ICC and the USDA got involved in the whole thing.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You know, on my way over here, I believe I was listening to the fact that now they're trying to pass a ruling where there'll be a new marking on meat, and no longer will it just be USDA-grade beef.
		It'll be beef from all over, or produce from all over the world, and it'll just have a new sticker on it saying it's other country.
		And if we're going to start shipping in other countries'meat, which I think is a completely insane idea, number one, because it'll kill the farm here, and number two, it probably won't be as healthy, folks.
		I can totally see that.
		It's unreal what we've done.
		Hello? Hey, Jason. I wanted to call...
unidentified		You know, I appreciate you, Cory, and Dylan, the work you guys did on Lose Change.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		You guys are great Americans.
		That's the first thing.
		My question, though, is kind of a two-part question.
		Now, do you know a whole lot about Ron Paul, in particular?
		Sure. I hate to get off topic here, but...
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, that's all right.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Sure, yeah, I know quite a bit about Mr. Paul.
unidentified		Okay, now I've been following Mr. Paul, and I'm a big supporter.
		I've read his book.
		I've actually lent out his book to several people to read for themselves to hopefully get them to realize, you know, I mean, a good politician and what a good politician stands for.
		But I was just looking around on YouTube this morning, and I seen this video about Ron Paul and Freemasonry.
		Now, I know there's a lot of disinformation out there, but I try to continue to do more research on All right.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I've heard this rumor too.
		It's been posted on my YouTube page.
		And, you know, I don't give much credence to it.
		I've seen the videos.
		I've never seen him interacting with somebody else and throwing up a sign.
		I mean, apparently he's got some arthritis in his hands.
		I mean, I've thrown up the Hook Em Horns.
		And not because I'm a Texas fan.
		Because I was an ignorant kid at rock shows, you know what I mean?
		I'm not Masonic at all.
		Yeah, you know, when I see world leaders doing it, you know, when I look at, you know, Tex Marr's information that I plugged earlier today, I give him about, first of all, he comes at it from a massive Christian perspective, you know, I don't think that he is able to come in from a, you know, kind of like a blind perspective.
		He does take the Christian route, but at the other end of it, he does know a lot of these Babylonian symbols, these Masonic symbols, these mystery religions, things that You know, I'm not as familiar with, so I take that stuff with a grain of salt.
		I think there's no doubt when you see somebody like Pat Robertson on the cover of Time Magazine throwing up the bear claw that he's throwing up the bear claw.
		You know, and I think a lot of these George Bush and family rocking the hook'em horns at the inauguration ceremony ain't the hook'em horns.
		I don't think, you know, Ron Paul is on the team of the Masons.
unidentified		He's done too much to fight.
unidentified		The power structure.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Campaign for Liberty is an ingenious idea.
		We've got Mike Rivera coming up on webcam.
		I can see him right now.
unidentified		It's going to be on PrisonPlanet.tv.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jason Bermas.
unidentified		We'll be back after this.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		It's the Alex Jones Show.
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unidentified		The enemy struck America on September 11th.
		But who is the enemy?
		Bin Laden.
		This is his MO.
		We have to look to the Middle East.
brit hume ▲ ● ▼		we have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
brit hume ▲ ● ▼		Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the Some US investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the US.
unidentified		I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
		Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
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		We don't need no education.
		We don't need no thought control.
		No dark sarcasm in the classroom.
		Teacher, leave them kids alone.
		Hey, teacher, leave them kids alone.
		Alright folks, we're back.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		It's the Alex Jones Show.
		In only five minutes, via PrisonPlanet.tv, we're going to have Mike Rivera live, split-screen.
		I love this new studio.
unidentified		It's so much cooler than the old one.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You can actually see somebody when you talk to them, and they can be in another...
		I mean, he's in Hawaii, for God's sakes.
		I mean, I thought it was nice in Texas.
		I guarantee it's gorgeous out there.
		So I'm going to shoot through a couple more of your calls.
		Mike Rivero next hour, then we have Ray McGovern in the following hour after that.
unidentified		We'll save the final hour all for phone calls, so if you want to ask me whatever, you can ask me whatever.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Although I do like the on-topic phone calls.
		The Noriega call was great.
		All right, so let's go to, I believe we are on Joshua in Florida.
		Joshua, what's on your mind?
		All right, let's go to Vic in Michigan.
unidentified		All right.
		Hey Jason, how's it going?
		Oh, not too bad.
		Hey, I was just playing in Photoshop with that download from Newsweek, and I did some pixelization distortion.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I'll send it to you an email but it definitely has the well it's got the big worlds on the top right hand side I saw it it's also it's a mirror image from the middle which is kind of popular right now in t-shirts and even you know artwork and you know again I mean just the outline of Obama himself you know, I mean, they're promoting this.
		He's on the cover of everything.
		Did you see the Rolling Stone cover, by the way?
unidentified		Yeah, it's amazing.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		They made him out to be God.
unidentified		I mean, that's what he is.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		He's in the clouds.
		He has like a lightning ominous glow.
		I just don't like how somebody who's unproven, somebody who is a state senator, For most of his career.
		Somebody who comes out in 2004, gives the Democratic National Convention keynote address.
		He's then put into the actual Senate, and he serves less than four years in the actual Senate in 2007, is when he actually, and believe me, it was planned before 2007, he was going to be running for president, but he announces it in 2007, and he wins.
		And it's not just, vote Obama, vote Obama.
		It's again, you see this stuff in the hip-hop stores, and I'm glad you said that, because I had a One of these guys I talk to on MySpace, he does custom artwork for shoes and hats and stuff.
		So he does painting and stitching.
		And he's getting tons of Obama orders.
		And he's like, look, Jason, I can't turn this away.
		This is how I make my living.
		And he was telling me how one of his associates just charged $400 for a pair of Obama custom Converse.
		It's insane!
unidentified		Just amazing.
		But hey, I'm also, I just want to let you know, Electronic engineer.
		I think I talked to you on Monday.
		But anyways, I know you guys are building a new studio and I would like to offer my services to you guys.
		I am an electronic engineer.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Tell you what, send your information over to AaronInfoWars.com.
		He's the one that's going through all that.
		I thank you for the call, Joshua.
		AaronInfoWars.com. I mean, I know that Aaron gets a ton of stuff, but he really is the conduit for which all this takes place.
		All right, last caller before the break.
		Let's go to Tom in Colorado.
		Tom, what's on your mind?
unidentified		Tom, are you with us?
		Right after the inauguration thing.
		Obama's supposed to be tested.
		I'm wondering whether they're going to test him or go ahead and kill him off and go ahead and start the race for him.
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		Folks, they're not going to start any race war with Obama.
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michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well, unfortunately, I think we're heading into a very, very dark time economically and politically and what you said about more and more people tuning into the alternative media, Genesis Communication Network, our various websites and the blogosphere is a continuation of a trend as more and more American people and basically around the world come to understand that the corporate Media is really a disinformation channel.
		They're turning away from it.
		They're turning to the alternative media to try and find out what's going on.
		In a lot of ways, this mirrors what we saw leading up to the decline and fall of the former Soviet Union, where the Russian people became very dissatisfied with what they were getting from Pravda and Izvestia.
		They began to realize there was a lot of lying and deception going on.
		They created their own populist media, the Samizdat, to get information around.
		And ultimately, Where do you think all this bailouts going?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we had Bernanke yesterday saying, look, we need more bailouts.
		Before that, Paulson said, the bailouts that have come through, we're going to have more banks closed down anyway.
		And we still have not heard what the Obama stimulus package is going to be.
		We're now six days away from him coming into office.
		I mean, personally, I'm not too thrilled with his Chief of Staff pick, Rahm Emanuel.
		This is a guy that's calling for mandatory conscription of 18- to 25-year-olds.
		So, I mean, when you saw his speech and he said, you know, this is going to be a time of great sacrifice and service for you, the people, do you think that that's in the cards?
		Do you think that we might have conscription?
		And where do you think all this banking mess is going to go?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well, as far as the conscription is concerned, it should be very obvious that Israel is trying to kick off a major regional war in the Mideast in which the United States will find itself mired in once again young American men and young American women I think?
		to be playing bullet catchers for israel's expansionist policy so that's definitely in the works ram emmanuel is very much in favor of that he's very supportive of israel uh he's one of these individuals where we have to ask where do their true loyalties lie and if it's not with
		the united states why isn't he in such a position of power as far as the economy and the bailouts uh it is it's it's running absolutely out of control but you need to understand that the whole point of the bailouts isn't so much where the money is being spent it is merely that it is being borrowed and and created because if you look at the way our federal reserve operates money does not exist until somebody is there to borrow it.
		When you sign that loan document at the bank, the bank literally creates the money you've borrowed out of thin air.
		That's how the Federal Reserve System works.
		So what happened this last year is that the American people prudently Prudently stopped their borrowing.
		They slowed down because as our manufacturing jobs left to other countries, Americans realized we don't have the money to pay these debts, so we're not going to borrow as much.
		We're not going to use our credit cards.
		We're not going to buy the bigger, flashier car.
		So the government is borrowing on our behalf.
unidentified		That's what the bailout is.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and we'll be paying it back, but we're not going to have any jobs to pay it back.
		So we're going to be in an interesting situation.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks, we are back.
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		And a couple of other key appointments that we should really mention in the Obama administration that have occurred over the past couple of days.
		The fact that John Kerry is on board as the head of the Foreign Relations Committee.
		And, you know, some people might think that's the greatest thing since breakfast.
unidentified		I don't know.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's the greatest thing ever.
		I mean, obviously, you know, Kerry was a front in 2004 to throw the election to Bush.
		I mean, he won the election, he didn't demand a recount, he didn't demand they even really count the votes at all.
		And then his new climate czar, his pick is global warming czar, because we need a czar for global warming.
		Carol M. Browner, one of the 14 leaders of the Socialist Group Commission for a Sustainable World Society, which calls for global governance.
		Of course, when the Washington Times printed this article and people got wind of it, it was taken off within hours.
		Really not impressing me so much with the cabinet.
		I mean, he actually cracked jokes during the debate that he was going to have Hillary Clinton on his squad.
		Then him and Hillary snuck away together in DC.
		Snuck away together in DC on the weekend of the Bilderberg meeting.
		And Gergen actually talked about that meeting.
		You know, they said there was a secret meeting.
		First it was at Clinton's house, then later they said it was at Dianne Feinstein's.
		My guess is that it was probably with members of the Bilderberg Group.
		I kind of want to get your opinion on that too, Michael.
		But Gergen called it and said that they were probably talking about what her position was going to be, whether it was going to be Secretary of State or possibly somewhere else in the administration.
		What do you think about these backdoor secret meetings with Hillary Clinton?
		Do you think that they were over at the Bilderberg Group?
		What's your opinion on that, Mike?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		I think at the point where Hillary realized that she was not going to be able to win the nomination, she wanted to make the best deal for herself with Barack Obama and held over his head the nuclear option of getting her supporters to back John McCain.
		And I think up until the point that McCain picked Sarah Palin as his running mate, it was a credible threat.
		But I think John McCain erred on that, or maybe he was just looking at the way the country is headed and decided at the last second maybe he didn't want to be president after all.
		And I said, let's get a vice president that will end my candidacy graciously and I'll take the rest of my campaign war chest and retire quietly.
		Yeah, there's obviously been a lot of deal-making going on.
		Barack Obama obviously has made a lot of deals, which is why we have so many of the old Clinton cronies showing up in his administration.
		And it is very distressing for people who wanted to listen to his message of change that we can believe in because we're not seeing change.
		Yeah, the guy in the Oval Office is different, but everything around him basically harkens back to the 1990s.
		And I'm very distressed by Hillary Clinton coming out and saying that she's just not going to negotiate with Hamas because, like it or not, Hamas is the elected government of another country and that's the Secretary of State's job, is to talk to the elected government of other countries.
		And Hillary's starting out saying, I'm not going to do my job, let's just drop bombs and get it over with.
		So, that's a warning sign.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad you brought up the Middle East.
		How do you feel about the policy?
		I mean, Obama's openly talking about a redistribution of forces into Afghanistan.
		I mean, yes, we're going to see a de-escalation in Iraq, but he says we're going to send more troops into Afghanistan.
		I mean, I feel like all they're doing is keeping their presence there as more stabilization occurs in Iraq.
		I feel like the big plan is the Eurasian Union, obviously.
		You know, Israel is our ally.
		Saudi Arabia, we're still pretty much doing positive dealings with.
		The only rogue in that region is really Iran.
		I mean, Pakistan and India, you could argue, but Biden's out in Pakistan trying to smooth things over this week after the Mumbai attacks.
		Well, I feel like he's over there basically to see how much he has to cover up for our end.
		I mean, obviously, you know, Biden is well aware of the ISI.
		He knew about the funding of the hijackers.
		We covered that in Fabled Enemies.
		There's no doubt about it.
		He was on the floor on the 12th talking about pretending to be our friend in Pakistan.
		Yet he's meeting with the head of the ISI at that point.
		He knows of the dealings there.
		And so he goes there now after the Mumbai attacks.
		You know, lead back to an ISI asset, a CIA asset, and the governments of India are openly saying that Pakistani intelligence was involved, so he has to go over there.
		I don't think that we really want to bomb Pakistan, although that's been in the news lately too.
		What do you think?
		You think we're going to bomb Pakistan?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		I think we're probably going to go into Pakistan or we're going to support India going into Pakistan because if you look at the geography of the region, you have got Afghanistan to the north which is pretty much under US control nominally.
		You have India which is very much an ally of the United States.
		For China to be able to send pipelines through to Middle East oil, they must go through Pakistan.
		So if we can turn Pakistan into a war zone, then that cuts China off from one of the resources This is
		Prevent Russia from supporting Iran, but when that war didn't work out so well I think that's when the push to invade Iran began to wane when they couldn't keep Russia out of the region So they shifted over to Pakistan now Israel's talking about a bombing attack on Iran's nuclear infrastructure again It's definitely a lot of chaos and as I like to tell my own listeners We're in a very awkward stage in our planet's history and Where all of our immediate future is basically being determined by whichever world leader is the least
		mentally stable, and we've got some real nutcases in power right now.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that.
		So you think that Iran is relatively going to be put on the back burner, and that the real conflict may be in Pakistan.
		I hope you're wrong.
		I hope that installing a new dictator will at least, you know, wave that off.
		You know, I figured that's what they were trying to do, do it diplomatically.
		But the rhetoric is there.
		I mean, They're talking about them being the new big enemy, and I think that just one type of terror event, either here or in Europe, being blamed on Pakistan could be the catalyst to send, you know, our forces or NATO forces or UN forces in there, and that would be a total and complete nightmare.
		That might be, you know, most people are saying the Iran conflict was what was going to spark, you know, World War III, but a conflict with Pakistan could very well do the same.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		You're absolutely correct here.
		And the issue here isn't whether we want to go into Iran or we want to go into Pakistan.
		There are numerous players and numerous factions and each has their own agenda.
		Israel still wants us to attack Iran.
		The U.S., I think, has decided they can't do it because they can't keep Russia from intervening militarily.
		So now they're looking at Pakistan, if for no other reason than to block off China's access to Middle Eastern oil and force them to come do business with the United States for their petroleum.
		And, uh, you know, again, it's that chessboard around the oil fields that's really in play.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You think that Russia is unhappy with its place in the world?
		I mean, obviously there was a play, like you said, in that South Ossetia-Georgian conflict to see what kind of a world power they still were.
		Do you feel like they feel like they don't want to be a second world nation in this global order?
		I mean, that's how I feel like the play is, you know?
		I mean, you had Putin and Bush sitting next to each other At the Olympics, as this conflict's going on, I don't think that Putin is very happy with the way that he was treated, and I don't think that he's very happy with, you know, the U.S. basically trying to build a North American Union here at home, and I really do believe trying to build a Eurasian Union right around the corner from their home.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think it's a question of whether Russia wants to be number one or number two.
		I think Russia, certainly looking at what Putin was doing right after he got rid of the oligarchs, I think he wants peace and prosperity for his people because his own political fortunes are dependent on that.
		But he lives, unfortunately, in a time when there are some very belligerent nations who see their own fortunes greatly improved by major warfare.
		I mean, setting aside for the moment Israel's obvious push for for war in Lebanon, war in Iran, war against Syria, war against Jordan, the list goes on.
		We have in the United States a large number of people who are looking at our economic problems and thinking that a major war at least will disguise the symptoms, give them something to blame it all on.
		I mean, Americans will put up with the lack of food, lack of clothes, lack of fuel if they think there's a war going on and they have to rally around the flag.
		And if you look back at the history of America's participation in major wars, Each one happened just as the United States was dealing with a major depression.
		There was a depression in the early 1900s.
		We got out of that by going into World War I, with that whole deception over the Lusitania.
		We were in the Great Depression just before Roosevelt got us into World War II with the Pearl Harbor deception.
		So now we're in serious economic trouble.
		People are saying, this is a new depression.
		And sure enough, we have the US government that's out there saying, let's kick off a major war and crank up the defense industries and make bombs and just, you know, at least everybody will be distracted from how bad things are because there's a war on and we've got to rally around the flag.
		And I think that's their thinking.
		And it's not going to work this time because first of all, Because of the alternative media, the American people know they're being lied to about these situations.
		They're not going to trust the government's story about any new war.
		Second of all, the United States is not the industrial powerhouse it was for World War I and World War II.
		We can't sustain the kind of manufacturing output it takes to support a major global war.
		And our economy is already in a shambles.
		I think a new major war will be the end of the United States.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you and I think what it'll do is restructure us, Canada and Mexico together.
		My fear is, alright, let's say that the dollar totally and completely collapses in the next six months and it's no longer the world reserve currency.
		That alone could probably start some real military conflicts.
		And like you said, we don't have the factories that we once had.
		We can't just take a factory and take the workers there and suspend whatever product they were making because they don't make anything here anymore.
		You know, you can't make weapons in a factory that's not fit to make shoes, because we don't make anything.
		The last thing we made here were cars, and that's about to go under as well.
		I mean, we're spread so thin militarily, is this going to be like the first United States military defeat?
		I mean, people could argue Vietnam and everything, but I'm talking about on a global scale.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		I think it very well could be because if you look at the historical precedent for the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, Rome began to decline when they spread their legions so thin they only had to lose one up in Germany and then they could no longer police their global empire and the little fringe nations began breaking away and the revenues to Rome dropped and Rome sank into debt and collapsed.
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		We're going to take your calls after this segment.
		Let's try to keep it on topic.
		I'd appreciate if we could keep away from the spooky hand signals and the race wars.
		Some people, man.
		I mean, they're just unbelievable.
		We got real, real issues to talk about here.
		We got a new administration coming in in six days.
		We've got people like Colin Powell, Joe Biden, and Madeleine Albright all warning us about a crisis.
		Now, at first, I didn't give much credence to this.
		I thought it was political rhetoric, especially on Biden's part, to try to get him elected.
		And, you know, I didn't take much stock in what Albright said.
		But when Colin Powell gave a date of the 21st or 22nd, it definitely spooked me out.
		Some people have tried to point to the fact that he said that before the economic crisis hit television.
		But I really, I don't know.
		Do you give any credence to that, Mike?
		Do you think that there's going to be something coming up on the 21st or 22nd?
		I mean, it could just be The announcement of more bank collapses, who knows?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		I'm very hesitant to name a date like the 20th or the 21st and again this gets back to the comment about so many different factions right now each pushing their own agenda and I am certain that there are some people who are thinking that a new 9-11 is going to advance their particular situation.
		They are being balanced by, I hope, a larger majority who are saying that the American people are already suspicious of the first 9-11 and a second one is going to be a very reckless I don't know.
		and risky proposition.
		But again, it's not like the government is operating in a united, monolithic sense.
		There's a lot of different players, and they're all doing what they think is going to be in their own best interests.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You know, I agree with you there, and, you know, people say, well, why do you keep bringing up 9-11?
		It's because the mainstream media constantly brings up 9-11.
		Today on Fox News, foxnews.com admitted that they torture people at Guantanamo Bay, but of course, the guy they were torturing was a suspect in the 9-11 attacks, and he later confessed that he was involved, so it's okay.
		You know, and...
		It just blows my mind.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I love it.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		We've tortured him into confessing, therefore it must be true.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And then you've had those military tribunals that have made the news in the past couple months of these supposed 9-11 suspects outside of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
		Of course, we'll see nothing more than transcripts.
		about that and people will buy into it you know uh...
		Mickey Rourke just won the Golden Globe for uh...
		the wrestler actually watch it i like the movie i think he actually might even deserve an Oscar for it but then he gets interviewed and what what's the headline it's not all Mickey Rourke wins the global Golden Globe no Mickey Rourke says bush did the right thing after 9/11 to the terrorists Of course, Mickey Rourke is going to weigh in.
		And the sad thing is, Mike, more people are going to listen to him because he's in the movies and on television than are going to listen to you or me, because that's the kind of society we live in.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that was the conventional wisdom a long time ago, but I'm not certain that's true anymore, first of all, because I think thanks be to people like Paris Hilton and her ilk.
		People are realizing that celebrities may look very good and make a very hot weekend, but they're not necessarily really up to date on what's going on.
		And to balance them, of course, you have people like Charlie Sheen and Willie Nelson and Rosie O'Donnell who have laid their careers on the line to speak truth to power.
		And these are being viewed as modern-day heroes and heroines.
		And so I think Mickey Rourke may ultimately in the long run have marginalized himself with that comment.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I hope you're right.
		But, you know, I just, it leads me to the sheeple-like mentality of people that, you know, they're more interested.
		I mean, Paris Hilton can have how many, like six or seven reality shows, and people still tune in.
		She still makes money on television just being her regular idiotic self.
		And people worship that and glorify it.
		And I think that's why we're in the situation we are with the banks in the Middle East, is because people aren't paying attention.
		I was impressed that most people weren't for the bailout, but when I'd be in a bar and I'd be talking to the local Republican business owner, oh no, man, if we don't have this bailout, we're going to go under.
		It's explaining every single great thing about the bailout that the news media was using as talking points three months ago.
		And now when the news media says, oh my God, we're in the worst economic situation since the Great Depression, they're still saying, well, we need another bailout.
		That's what the news told me.
		We need another bailout.
unidentified		How are we going to get past that?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well, you have to remember that the Republican Party was actually emailing these talking points out to business owners because I own a small business and I actually got one of these myself.
		And it is simply propaganda because everyone is always debating about who's going to get the tax burden in the next administration.
		So the GOP wanted to keep the tax breaks George Bush gave them.
		The Obama supporters want the tax breaks to go to them this time.
		And what they need to do is unite and say, look, taxes on everybody are too high and we need to back off.
		That's how you save the economy.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be taking your calls in this segment.
		Myself and Mike Rivera of WhatReallyHappened.com.
		We're going to go to Paul, Rocco, Todd, and others.
unidentified		But there's a new Bin Laden audio tape that's hitting the waves in the media.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I read about it this morning, but I couldn't get a hold of whether it actually hit the news media, whether it was an audio or a videotape.
		And of course, it's an audio tape.
		And he's unhappy about what's going on in Gaza.
		And hell, I'm unhappy about what's going on in Gaza.
		The problem with that is, you know, of course he's probably taking the Palestinian side.
		And that automatically demonizes people like myself and Mike that try to point out that the Palestinians aren't really the ones in the wrong here.
		It's Israel that is encroaching on their space.
		They're the ones that have the military on their borders constantly.
		And are one of the main causes of the civil unrest over there.
		But now, Bin Laden has a new audio tape.
		We haven't seen him in years.
		I think the last time we actually saw him was Blackbeard Bin Laden.
		And that was just such poor video quality.
		It's amazing.
		I'd like to get your take on the new Bin Laden tape prior to us going to calls, Mike.
		What do you think?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're absolutely correct.
		The whole reason for dragging Bin Laden or Bin Laden Lite, in this case, out of the closet is to tar anybody who's speaking against Israel in this situation.
		I mean, the reality is Hamas is the elected government of Palestine.
		Hamas had basically followed the ceasefire for the last six months.
		Israel now admits Hamas was not firing rockets into Israel at the time when Israel broke the ceasefire on November 4th by attacking Gaza.
		So Israel is clearly in the wrong here.
		And again, if you go back to United Nations Resolution 242, Israel is supposed to be out of the occupied territories, not building new settlements and going in and just behaving very rudely.
		So they can't win on points of international law.
		They can't win on morality.
		They can't win on the facts.
		So they're going to drag out bin Laden and use him to basically tarnish anybody who is speaking out for peace.
		The problem with that is that more and more people are well aware that, oh, Well, Osama bin Laden appears to have actually died in December of 2001, and every Osama since then appears to be some permutation of Wag the Dog video production.
		And yeah, they're using the dead guy one more time.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's unbelievable, and you know, there's a movie out there about Jimmy Carter, and I'm not a huge Jimmy Carter fan, but Jimmy Carter came out with a book not so long ago called Peace, Not Apartheid, and it was all about the Israeli and Palestinian conflict, and there's a documentary that just goes through his book tour, and it's something very palatable for the mainstream, for somebody like your uncle or your aunt or your cousin that doesn't really know about this stuff, but knows who Jimmy Carter is, and I suggest people get that.
		All right, let's go to calls.
		Let's go to Paul in Florida.
		Paul, what's on your mind?
		Paul, are you with us?
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I'm so happy to be able to get through today.
		I'm a first-time caller, but I've been listening since the beginning of Alex Jones way back.
		I've listened to Genesis before he was on.
		Awesome. What I want to talk about is the first thing you mentioned with this new guest is conscription.
		Can I read you the 13th Amendment?
		It's one sentence.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, go for it.
unidentified		It says, neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for a crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
		Does this not make conscription illegal?
		Is that not involuntary servitude?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I would say it makes it constitutionally illegal.
		Unfortunately, the people that are running the show right now could give a damn about the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
		What do you think, Mike?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, the way they get around that is during the military draft, there's a point where they say, all of you who choose to serve the United States, step forward.
		And they construe this to mean that you are volunteering, therefore the 13th Amendment does not apply.
		But yeah, we have a government that is absolutely ignoring the Constitution, which in my point of thinking, delegitimizes them already, along with all the obvious lies.
		So, and we also need to go back to that little brochure that the FBI has distributed to police departments around America that anybody who's talking about the Constitution or the Bill of Rights needs to be reported as a potential terror suspect.
		So obviously our government really isn't paying attention to the Constitution.
		It's just something, as George Bush says, it's a blank blank piece of paper.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely. And, you know, it reminds me of the days that my, uh, my history teacher used to carry a pocket constitution around all the time and he was very proud of this fact and he would whip it out whenever, you know, there was a question.
		He'd say, well, actually, this part of the constitution says that I don't have to do that.
		And now he's supposedly a potential terrorist.
		Geez, I just thought he was trying, someone who was trying to help.
		All right, let's go to Rocco.
		Rocco, what's on your mind?
		You there, Rocco?
		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, I'm here.
		I'm here.
		How are you?
		Good. Hey, listen, I just want to remind the folks out there, you know, about this new administration coming in and what their future plans are for this country.
		And, you know, I'm extremely, I guess, hopeful and optimistic that Obama is not going to end up being who he is.
		You know, everyone fears he might be, but you never really know until, you know, you guys in office and you give him a try and you see what he actually does.
		Sure. But, you know, one thing that I'm really concerned about is, you know, a loss of freedom and a loss of rights in this country.
		And, you know, I mean, how much freedom did we have against the terrorists of 17-17?
		People were actually, you know, on the streets shooting themselves.
		And then we forget that in the 1800s, the British actually came and burned Washington, D.C. and didn't have the Patriot Act.
		We didn't have all of our rights taken away.
		We weren't having our phone calls listened in on and everything else.
		So, you know, I feel like there's a bigger agenda going on.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You're kind of cutting in and out, so we're going to let you go.
		But I also feel like there's a bigger agenda going on.
		And in fact, the cover story of Newsweek is Obama's Cheney problem.
		And Newsweek is pointing to all these executive powers that the Bush administration has passed over the last eight years.
		But they're making a case that Obama will not misuse these powers, so there's no reason to get rid of them via executive orders.
		What's your take on that?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		I think that is a very, very dangerous article that came out.
		It's a very dangerous idea.
		I think if Obama really wants to bring about change we can believe in, he has to start reversing many of those executive orders.
		Because this whole idea that, yeah, these orders are dangerous to the liberties of the American people, but trust your leaders, they won't abuse them.
		I think that's absolutely ridiculous.
		The whole reason for having a Bill of Rights and a Constitution was the recognition by our founding fathers that People in positions of power are just human beings and they're subject to human frailties and weaknesses, and power attracts the very kind of people who ought not to have it.
		And so, in point of fact, it is dangerous to allow these executive orders to stand.
		And Obama should rescind them all immediately.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I wish that he would rescind them all immediately.
		What really gets me is the tone of the article, where they're defending torture in many cases, where they're saying, You know, it's basically making every excuse in the book to keep these orders, and because it's a new face, it's not a problem.
		No, it's a problem because it gives people in the executive branch an obscene amount of power when we were supposed to have checks and balances in this country.
		That's why there's three branches of government, folks.
		Okay? Judicial, executive, and legislative.
		But the executive has just gotten so out of control with its powers, I mean, the line is not only blurred, it's gone.
		All right, let's go to Todd in Florida.
		Todd, what's on your mind?
unidentified		Hey, Jason, what's going on, bud?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Not much, what's happening?
unidentified		Nothing, I actually had to send a picture from a camera phone to Aaron.
		Okay. And I have somebody that's very close to me that is in the postal service.
		And they recently had to deliver, they had three or four of these packages on their route, but I'm pretty sure they're mass distributed.
		Big huge package and it's a survey and on the front of it and big huge letters.
		It said 2009 national survey for North American Union and NAFTA super trade highway now and it's It's a survey.
		It's a mass survey going out.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I'm not really sure.
unidentified		I sent the picture to him.
		He might be able to pick it up off the picture.
		I wasn't there at the time.
		had to take the picture and drop it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		Send it to my MySpace, too.
		Can you send me a link to my MySpace?
		It's myspace.com slash Jason Burmess, because Aaron does get quite overwhelmed.
		I do try to read all the messages that I get.
		I may not reply to all of them, but I'd love to see it as well.
		Yeah, I mean, it's pretty much in the open.
		Even, you know, Dobbs, one of the few people that actually reports what's going on in this country, recently did something about the Securities and Prosperities Partnership, and the Obama administration is opening talks again.
		You know, it's just like the Trans-Texas Corridor gets reported last week that it's dead.
		No, they just renamed it.
		It's under a different project.
		They're not going to tear the road down that they've built.
		They're going to continue to build it.
		I'm Hey Jason, nice to talk to you.
unidentified		I wanted to thank you and the Lose Change crew for turning me around about three years ago.
		I'm calling from prison camp Iowa State.
		They recently had a protest going on against the Gaza invasion, and yesterday they had it going on in front of the Memorial Union, I guess, and one of the administrators came out and told them, sorry, you can't do that here.
		If you do not move to one of the designated free speech zones, you will be arrested.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Mike, why don't you talk about these designated free speech zones?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Because most people think, oh, we have free speech in this country, we can talk about whatever we want, but as soon as we talk about anything that matters in this country, or anything that matters about Israel and Palestine, all of a sudden we don't have those same rights, do we?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		No, we don't.
		This free speech zone, it's an absolute joke.
		It's a slap in the face of every American who ever died defending the Constitution and the Bill of Rights through all the wars we fought up to this point.
		And basically what it means is you have freedom of speech, but the government reserves the right to put you in a special free speech zone, which means you're away from the press, you're away from the public, and you can say whatever you want.
		As long as you're in these places where nobody can hear you.
		And it's a very disingenuous way of handling the situation because the whole point of free speech is that you are to be heard.
		It isn't necessarily the right to speak out what you're saying.
		It is a right to share your thoughts and your ideas with your fellow Americans.
		whether that's in the public square, on TV, in the newspapers, or here on the Internet.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And this was really born right before the 2004 elections when the Democratic National Convention, the Republican National Conventions were coming to big cities like Boston and New York, and they didn't want a visible protest outside.
		So they create these pens, you know, miles away or two miles away.
		It's unbelievable.
		I thank you for the call.
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		Alright, let's go to our next caller.
		Let's jump to Fred in Philly.
		Fred, what's on your mind?
unidentified		Hey, it's good to hear from you again.
		What do you think about the possibility that there's no country in the world that really isn't bankrupt at this point?
		Well, first of all, hold on before you get there.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		First of all, countries that still make things, that have factories, they're not really bankrupt because they can still make goods and have goods and services in that country.
		Secondly, some countries still have precious metals that are always going to retain value.
		Not so much the countries, but the leaders of those countries and the elites in those countries.
		Silver, gold, platinum, this is stuff that's retained value for thousands of years, so that's not going to go anywhere.
		As far as countries already being bankrupt, What's the debt rate?
		What's the deficit in this country right now, Mike?
		Is it almost a trillion dollars?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it absolutely is, and it's going to be way more than that next year.
		And I think what the caller is talking about is the fact that when you have a monetary system that is based on debt, as we do in the United States with the Federal Reserve, the problem with such a monetary system is that more money is owed than actually exists.
		And so the system will work as long as there's always a new young generation of borrowers coming in at the bottom of the pyramid to prop up the system.
		But what happened here in the United States and is happening around the world is You don't have those new borrowers coming in and so the whole system's beginning to collapse.
		You thought Bernie Madoff had a really ugly pyramid scheme but the entire Federal Reserve System is a pyramid scheme as well because it can only exist and perpetuate as long as there are always more and more borrowers coming in at the bottom of the system to allow the creation of new revenue.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's jump to the next caller.
		Let's go to Mike in Wyoming.
		Mike, what's on your mind?
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		Hello, gentlemen.
		I wanted to follow up on something Mike Rivero said about getting around the 13th Amendment, which was true as far as he went.
		Basically, you do volunteer in, I heard this from an old Air Force buddy of mine, the way you get around it, at least in the past, and I think this is still probably valid, when they ask you, alright, everyone who volunteers, you know, take two steps forward or whatever.
		You do an about face and take three steps backwards.
		And probably you're going to have a sergeant in your face for the next 48, 72 hours barking at you and trying to make you feel like you're the scum of the earth.
		But they can't force you to volunteer is the bottom line.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, but the thing is that they're going to file charges against you.
		It's just like...
		No, no, no, no.
mike in wyoming ▲ ● ▼		They're not going to file charges against you.
		They may try to get you into some kind of other...
		Other, you know, conscientious objector type status and do some kind of charity work, but they can't force you to volunteer.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You know, I just don't say, you know, I think it's just like that argument of common law and the IRS, the people that are out there.
		I mean, there is no real law in the book for the, you know, federal income tax, but you know, they're going to come after you with the IRS and the military.
		I'm just saying if they come out with a mass conscription for people where they say conscription's happening, and you get in line and you say, I'm not going to do it, they're going to throw you in the brig, man.
		I mean, I find it hard pressed that they're just going to let you go.
		And we know that they want to build a domestic civil force.
		I mean, that's what Homeland Security was about, being brought in after 9-11.
		You know, that's just one facet of it.
		We have Homeland Security offices right around the corner of the new office.
		I mean, it's an expanded bureaucracy.
		So I can see them giving you the choice of whether you want to serve in the armed forces or you want to serve domestic surveillance at home.
		But I don't think they're going to give you the choice to just walk away.
		It won't be just...
		I don't believe like they're just going to try to, you know, convince you to take one or the other.
		I think that they're going to Basically say you do this, or you're going to jail, or you're going to military prison, or you're going to regular prison.
		Mike, what's your view on that?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think looking back at the case of Aaron Watada, he was absolutely legally in the right to refuse to serve in a war that he felt was illegal.
		That was a principle.
		It's in the U.S. Uniform Code of Military Justice.
		It is the principle that came out of the Nuremberg war trials, and yet they kept prosecuting and prosecuting and prosecuting him, just trying to wear him down.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Exactly. They have unlimited funds, and it doesn't matter to them if you're going to have to spend your car payment or your house payment to try to fight these guys.
		They'll fight you tooth and nail.
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		Then we get to have these great guests on, and the technology just keeps getting better and better and better.
		Mike Rivero also in my latest film, Fabled Enemies.
		You can get that over at InfoWars.com or if you're a PrisonPlan.TV subscriber, you can watch it free, streaming the web, download it, burn it to disk, hand it out to your friends.
		I think it's an important film.
		It really lays out the International Intelligence Agency that carried out 9-11.
		You know, it goes away from the physical anomalies.
		It shows that there's another story out there other than controlled demolition in World Trade Center Building 7, although that's obviously part of it.
		Mike, in the final segment we have you here, I'd really like you just to go over the Gaza situation, the latest updates and what's happening there and, you know, basically how we can put pressure on our government to really try to solve what's going on there instead of just taking the side of the Israelis blindly and promoting all this expansionism and imperialism.
		How is it that our voice can be heard?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		Well that is a very very difficult question because I think it's been made very clear to the United States people that Congress is not listening to us anymore.
		They certainly didn't with the bailout this last week.
		Both houses of Congress stood up and nearly unanimous, it was unanimous in the Senate, voted approval for what Israel is doing.
		And the bottom line as far as Israel and Gaza is concerned is Israel likes to pretend they own that land in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.
		They do not.
		It belongs to the Palestinians.
		United Nations Resolution 242 has ordered Israel out of the occupied territories, and Israel does not want to go because they covet that land.
		Now, the bottom line is, for the last 60 years, we've had all of this tremendous misery, war, killing, tremendous upset coming out of the Middle East, and it all comes down to one and only one cause.
		Israel demands for itself the right to exist and the right to a state, but denies that same right to its neighbors.
		And that is really the heart of this entire conflict.
		Israel will not grant to others that which it demands for itself.
		All Israel has to do to bring peace to the Mideast is simply grant to the Palestinians their right to exist and their right to a state.
		That was the original plan in the United Nations partition plan for there to be an Israeli nation and a Palestinian nation.
		And Israel said, we will not go along with that.
		David Ben-Gurion then proclaimed Israel to be in existence and said, we do not acknowledge Palestine's right to exist.
		Whereupon the other Arab nations said, well, if you're not going to acknowledge Palestine's right to exist, we don't acknowledge your right to exist.
		And that is the root cause of all of the How do you see it all ending?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what do you think it's going to be?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Do you think it's going to be a global conflict in the Middle East where a Eurasian Union is born and really Israel has the central role in governing that area?
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		I know that's certainly what Israel would like to see happen, and I think Israel would not mind at all if the United States and Russia got into a mutually destructive war, which left Israel with its nuclear arsenal able to project power over that half of the world at least.
michael rivero ▲ ● ▼		So, as to what's really going to happen, time alone will solve that mystery.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, Michael Rivera, thank you so much for spending an hour with us.
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