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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
I'm sorry.
alex jones
We have one of the most prominent members of the Native American Indian Movement, Russell Means, joining us in T-minus 20 minutes to chime in on the parallels between what happened to Native Americans and what's happening in Gaza.
I saw a clip of him earlier this week on YouTube, which was very accurate, because I too have read the official Nazi histories.
Hitler gave speeches about it, wrote about it.
He got his policies for death camps and rounding up populations, non-Aryan groups in Russia and all over Europe from the American Indian program here in the United States.
And of course that adopted a lot from those that invented it, the British, the concentration camp.
It was Andrew Jackson who turned around and did some of the same stuff to Native Americans Who lost his mother and brother through a British concentration camp.
So Russell Means is joining us, then Bob Chapman for his once a week visit on the economy.
And boy, is that timely today.
And then for two hours, ladies and gentlemen, we have Alan Watt joining us.
Folks, really love it we have Alan Watt on.
We appreciate him coming on the show.
And we'll go over a host of issues with Alan Watt today.
On this Friday, The ninth day of January 2009 edition By the way the Alex Jones tyranny crusher one bullhorn Auctioned on eBay Only a couple days into a seven-day bid is over $50,000
right now Now somebody put in one for five million And then bragged that it was fake.
We just googled their handle and found out that it was part of a government group, government-affiliated group, laughing openly, saying they wanted to screw it up.
But we just cancelled their bid, and it's a legitimate cancellation because we have their own handle, their own admission, where they're admitting that they are, and even posting their bidding details on the web.
Posting the evidence of their felony.
We went and looked it up.
Memory told me it was a felony.
Above $10,000 federal.
In Texas, it's above $6,000.
For a state felony, but I don't know what state this individual's in.
You can always subpoena those, but it looks like we'll be able to handle those problems.
We've talked to eBay now, and they did say that if these people did succeed, that there would be criminal charges.
So, if they're not going to be successful in their criminal activities, They're admitted criminal activities, but they're doing important work, of course, for CENTCOM, so it's okay.
It's alright.
Yeah, and if you didn't know that you've got some CENTCOM and FBI guys in there with you.
I know some of you are just fellow traveler, lobotomy-type folks.
Fluoride heads, your mother didn't breastfeed you and then you drank fluoride, so your brain's tiny and got rotholes in it.
Oh, you didn't know that?
Of course, you'll just laugh.
You'll go, well, my mom didn't breastfeed me.
That's true.
But you won't Google and read the BBC and Associated Press about your brain being 15 to 30 percent smaller, depending on the study, if you weren't breastfed.
You'll just laugh and say that's not true.
But I guarantee you, mama puts you in a crib in dirty diapers and didn't take care of you.
And that's your problem.
And I'm sorry they savaged your mind so that you couldn't connect your intellect with your soul.
Alright, I'm already digressing here.
Now, you can escape with some of the fluoride and still have an intellect, but if mama doesn't give you that milk, and I'm not bashing women here that believe the system and gave their babies formula.
I'm saying this so women will think about their children in the future and give them what those mammary glands, those beautiful mammary glands, were designed for.
The guys in the control room got a kick out of that little comment.
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Yeah! Fired up!
alex jones
This transmission has just lifted off.
Huge news blitz straight ahead.
Right here on the one, the only Infowars.com radio network.
Stay with us.
Hello, friends.
This is Alex Jones.
I've told you for a long time it's important to be self-sufficient, and today that's more important than ever.
We need to be independent, and food and water is the key.
You'll never have to stand in a bread line if you have your own bread.
You'll never have to go to the Superdome and beg for FEMA to take care of your family in any emergency if you simply prepare.
Our elected representatives wanted a good old boy bailout for the special interest, so they ignored your screams not to do it.
They turned off the telephones and email.
They voted to print $850 billion at least out of thin air.
This money now owns the American and European banks.
The exploding inflation that is now guaranteed will slash your life savings to nothing and blast the cost of necessities, particularly food beyond many Americans'reach.
In pre-Nazi Germany's superinflation, the cost of a loaf of bread doubled every two days until it reached over 4 billion marks.
The private banks merging with our government are refusing to loan grocery stores enough money to restock their shelves.
The stores have less food, but jack up prices to stay in business.
Whatever happens in America, we need to be prepared and be ready.
Everything is zeroing in on food.
One-third of Americans have to choose between buying food and paying for other necessities.
My friends, whatever it takes, get prepared, get self-sufficient, get food.
For everybody out there listening, it's very important for you to understand that by having a supply of storable food, the government, the New World Order, has a lot less control over you.
And so it's a mindset, a mindset of self-sufficiency and preparedness.
No one is going to take care of your family in the final equation but you.
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*BOOM* From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones
It really is a Central Texas Command Center now.
I'm going to visit family for a few days next week.
So Jason Burmas is going to be sitting in some.
He's down here in the Central Texas Command Center and he's saying, man, you've got to give people a tour of this place and show them what you did with the support people gave you.
And, you know, really, we've just been so busy.
So busy with all the other projects we're doing and this Barack Obama film.
We were up here until about 11 last night and we went and got a hamburger afterwards with Rob's cousin who's down here visiting from New York.
That was fun.
But I digress.
Maybe since it's quick and easy and later we'll do a video tour.
Just take some photos around the new Central Texas Command Center.
Kind of a photo tour.
And then at some point I need to walk around with a camera in here and videotape the place and put it out for the viewers out there at PrisonPlanet.tv so they can check out the command center.
But we're in the next phase.
Trying to expand our operations and so we're so busy that it's hard to get around to that, but we will we will do it That is a guarantee if the creek don't rise as they say Yeah, I usually get about 637 in the morning I slept till about 9 o'clock this morning as I didn't get home till about 1 and I'm here with this huge stack of news in front of me,
and I'm actually in a relaxed mood Which is rare.
I mean, I'm normally relaxed when I'm not on air.
But for some reason I've gotten the habit over the years, I guess when I first got on radio it was so exciting that I was just exploding with information that I would get into this overdriven mode and that became the precedent.
But right now I'm feeling like my normal self and I don't even know where to start because I have all the serious news and I almost hate to plow through it all.
And bum my happy vibe, as they say.
We won't have a free society.
We won't have any future if we let the criminals come in and eat us out of house and home and our societies.
That's the whole point about corruption.
It must be stopped.
It must be resisted.
Really serious news on the financial front.
This is UBS closing U.S. clients' offshore accounts.
New York Times reports, and this is a Reuters story itself, under pressure from the U.S. tax authority, Swiss Reuters.
Wealth management giant UBS is closing all the offshore accounts of its rich U.S. clients, the New York Times said Friday.
Now what's happened is the really big money's moved offshore.
The get-out-of-the-United-States date I've been told and read about was about two years ago.
And they've moved their money to Mumbai, they've moved their money to Dubai, they've moved their money to Luxembourg, they've moved their money to the Bahamas, they've moved their money to Portugal, they've moved their money.
And then you have the OECD, the Organization of Economic Cooperative Development, that was the official name of the Marshall Plan in Europe.
And now it's this international management consortium that really sets a lot of the policies for the private IMF, World Bank, International Bank of Settlements and others, and they're the ones that have been pushing for decades to, quote, get rid of tax havens.
But they only get rid of select, quote, tax avoidance havens.
And they only go after the smaller fish, people with a million, two million, five million, a hundred million, even a billion, if they're not in the inner circle of elitist.
So this is all about selective enforcement.
The big Trillionaires of the world, the super class, the handful of families that control trillions, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, they use governmental taxing authorities to come in and suck the middle class and the nouveau riche and the upstart super rich dry through taxation.
I mean, you see these reports all the time, where Goldman Sachs paid less than 1% taxes, that was in the New York Times, in the United States, because they're offshore, and they've written all the federal and international laws where it's allowed, it's kosher for them to do that, but nobody else, except for that small super class.
And so that's all this is, is nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, unless you're a select group Allowed to go into the bank accounts in other areas of the world.
So this is a robbing of the middle class, a robbing of the nouveau riche, and some upstart super rich.
The looting.
UBS, which the U.S. authorities say helped wealthy Americans hide cash in offshore bank accounts, will shut down 19,000 offshore accounts, the paper said, quoting unnamed U.S. clients.
A UBS spokesman in Switzerland was not immediately available to comment on the report.
The Swiss bank, one of the hardest hit in the credit crisis, decided in July last year to stop offering offshore accounts to U.S. citizens as it was targeted by a U.S. tax investigation which challenges Switzerland's famous banking secrecy laws.
Really what happened is the Swiss joined the European Union a few years ago, and they have agreed to phase out their own currency and their gold-backed system, so it's over for them.
They're being absorbed by the board.
As part of the investigation, U.S. authorities indicted UBS's Wealth Management Chief last year.
UBS is progressing with its closing.
In ordinary fashion, UBS spokesman Karina Byrne was quoted as saying in the U.S. paper, And it says it helped U.S. clients hide $18 billion of untaxed American money.
I mean, there are globalists that are making $18 billion a day, folks.
But they love these illusions and these giant hoaxes that Bill Gates is the richest man in the world.
Bill Gates' father, who headed up Planned Parenthood, is still on their board, and was tied in with IBM Eugenics Operations.
IBM is a trust.
When the old man died in the, was it late 40s?
Set up a trust that IBM be used to carry out, setting up a world state to carry out eugenics, and that's on record.
And to get around trust laws, and those are still being somewhat enforced, I'm digressing.
Look, I've covered one article here, and I've probably got 50 or 60 important ones.
It's just all a giant stinking fraud.
And so he was set up as the IBM frontman.
IBM has thousands of fronts that we know of.
So there you go, ladies and gentlemen.
A lot of these low-level government people and bureaucrats and corporate shills, you don't get to keep your money.
And the general that you stole, many of you, or that you earned, and then many, of course, the mainline middle class that may have a half million dollars saved after 30, 40 years of working, Well, you're just going to lose all that value, too.
That's what this is about.
You think the elites are going to just let you invest in the system and they are not going to steal from you?
You think they're setting up FEMA camps and NORTHCOM command because they want to give you a pedicure or, you know, they want to wash your rock and roll hair because they care about your bling and your escalade?
They'd like to see you dead.
You understand that?
Henry Paulson's a big eugenicist, heading up a bunch of land-grabbing operations.
He's a human hater, openly calls for population reduction.
I mean, this is a sick group.
So again, all of you that think you're a part of the system, just get ready.
Get ready, because they're going to work you over, and they're not going to stop until you stand up against them.
You understand?
They'll push you all the way to the wall and past it if you keep sitting there with your thumb in your little mouth sucking on it and acting all elitist.
All these wannabe nouveau riche who are arrogant and full of themselves out there.
You know who we're talking about.
From all these little pampered families in places like Dallas and Houston and Long Island and L.A. and I mean there's communities of them everywhere who think they're gods and think they're the elite.
Get ready.
The elite is going to take everything you've got.
And then probably shove a gun in the back of your head and splatter your brains down into a pit before they kick you into it.
The last thing you'll do before you die is crap yourselves.
Bill Gross, we've got a Ponzi-style economy.
Bill Gross is managing director of the world's largest bond fund, PIMCO, which manages some 700,000 $190 billion in assets.
PIMCO is managing the commercial paper assets for the Federal Reserve.
It's part of the government's commercial paper funding facility.
And he wrote in the January 2009 Investment Outlook that it's not only Madoff who ran a Ponzi scheme, but the entire U.S. economy in a Ponzi-like scheme.
He calls it our Ponzi-style economy.
And we have a link up on prisonplanet.com to the rest of the article, but you've got a lot of these insiders now acting like they weren't part of it.
You know, he's now blowing the whistle.
All a Ponzi scheme, while the Ponzi scheme still had value because of people's perceptions.
They bought up all the defense contractors, all the major media, all the major infrastructure.
Now they don't need you anymore.
They pumped you full of yourself and told you you were the elite and got you all arrogant and slack-jawed and smiley-faced.
You know the spirit I'm talking about?
The attitude, the cowardly attitude of these little metrosexual men out there today and all of these preening, psycho, worldly women.
Who have had more abortions than they've, than they've, I don't know, bought cars in their lives.
You know, they get an abortion every two years, they get a new car every two years.
You didn't care about that baby?
Well, the elite doesn't care about you either, honey!
That baby wasn't a human being?
Well, you're not either to them.
You're not either.
Speaking of that, Baby selected without cancer gene.
And this is out of the Associated Press.
The first British baby genetically selected to be free of breast cancer gene has been born, doctors have said.
She grew from an embryo screened, that means the other embryos were thrown out.
She grew from an embryo screened to ensure, that means little baby, To ensure it did not contain the faulty BRCA1 gene, which passes the risk of breast cancer down generations.
But you see, I've read the geneticist studies.
A lot of these cancer genes are tied to other genes that actually help us.
So you watch.
These people that are designer, they're going to have all sorts of problems.
Just watch.
Just watch.
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Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
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The enemy struck America on September 11th.
brit hume
But who is the enemy?
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Bin Laden.
This is his M.O. We have to look to the Middle East.
brit hume
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
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Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
brit hume
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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alex jones
Russell Means is our guest for the next 35 minutes or so, and when I get back to town, I want to get him back for a full hour.
We tried to go over his whole bio, it would take hours.
He's well known for being in a lot of big Hollywood movies, but he's more proud of the fact that he's been one of the main leaders of the American Indian movement, and of course as a writer, and involved in a lot of other important work, he was Born on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, both his parents had been educated in government re-education camps.
And he, of course, is trying to get the people around the Dakotas area to secede, not from the U.S. It's now totally New World Order.
It's not even the United States.
It's this global empire that's Taken over even the little empire that was called the United States here, and that's got international attention They've had some success, but I saw on his YouTube channel a few days ago And it was very touching where he was laying out because I've studied the history as well the fact that Well really what happened is the British invented concentration camps Andrew Jackson's who then put Native Americans in camps himself his mother and his brother died in In a British concentration
camp during the Revolutionary War.
So the British invented it.
They actually did it to the Scots first.
You see some similar things in the movie Braveheart that's somewhat historical.
So people are always doing this to their neighbors.
This is what happens to the more technological groups come in and dominate and kill.
And then he ties it in with Hitler who bragged that he learned everything he knew off the American Indian model with what the army did.
Especially out west but also in the east.
And Israel brags.
And I had Ray McGovern, top CIA former officer on, saying he's been in Israel with them bragging.
Hey, we're using your American Indian model.
What's wrong with this?
So it's on record.
That's what's happening.
So Russell Means, it's good to have you back on with us.
russell means
Thank you.
Great to be with you.
alex jones
Go ahead.
You've got the floor.
Start breaking down the parallels here.
russell means
Well, first of all, I want to I know that people listen to your show quite regularly, and they heard me back last year when you had me in, after we withdrew, we didn't secede, we withdrew from our treaties with the United States of America and re-established our free and independent republic, the Republic of Lakota.
And the update on the Republic of Lakota is that Number one, we have devised four strategies for the rebuilding of the foundation of our Republic, and that's politics, health, education, and economics.
And economics, as we all know, is those that control the energy control the economics.
We live in the Republic of Lakota, which also goes into two states of Dakota.
And that part of Dakota is called by the experts the Saudi Arabia of wind energy.
And, of course, the coal companies hold hostage the energy in the West.
Consequently, you have to get permission from them if you want to put up a windmill.
However, we're going to build our own grid.
And we begin our endeavors, and we've started that already in the Republic, as a single-house windmill.
Independence and community independence from wind turbines.
Wind turbines will allow our communities to be free and because of that, investors will be drawn to The Republic of Lakota to invest in building our own grid, which we can then mother in with the other grids, but we control our own grids and costs and profits.
That is one of the endeavors we're doing.
The other endeavor is to be putting up working with the international community and international corporations.
we are going to be putting in a computer calling center that is going to be expanding within five to six years to a $600 million a year operation.
Insofar as our health is concerned, we're bringing in naturopathic doctors as well as MDs from different parts of the world.
We are presently arranging Medical training for Indian students who are not allowed or into medical schools or once they get in there They're okay.
alex jones
Stay there.
We got a break Russell means stay there.
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We'll be right back We're on the march the Empire's on the run Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network It is a big idea a new world order In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.
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They have all the money they need.
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That's what they're after these years.
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Before you slip into unconsciousness, I'd like to have another kiss, another flashing chance.
Another kiss, another kiss The days are bright
and filled with pain Enclose me in your gentle rain The time you ran one Till we'll say we'll
alex jones
I promised that Russell Means on for a full hour if he can do it to talk about since last time we had him on eight, nine months ago, the progress of their withdrawal, their canceling of treaties that have never been followed.
He's right.
It's not a secession.
Glad he corrected me on that technical point.
But I want to shift gears in the time we have left with him on the parallels between what's happening to the Gazans because they're dead and dying.
Right now, Gaza children found with mother's corpses, the New York Times.
The International Committee of the Red Cross said Thursday it had discovered shocking scenes including small children next to their mother's corpses.
Well, at least with a wounded knee, they killed all the kids too.
When its representatives gained access for the first time to parts of Gaza battered by Israeli shelling, it accused Israel of failing to meet obligations to care for the wounded in the combat area.
Israel founded Hamas.
That's on the record.
People keep emailing me saying it's not true.
They founded it to counter the PLO.
That's on record.
See, they didn't want a mainline secular group.
That's why they overthrew Saddam.
They want radicalized groups so that they'll fight back with their sticks and stones so they have a pretext to come in and slaughter them.
But then the argument is, well, then they're just putting camps and, you know, basically their wells are poisoned, so what's the point there?
And that's why the other groups say, let's go ahead and fight.
Les Russell means his take on that.
He's certainly been involved fighting.
And Pat Buchanan says, Israel turning Gaza into a concentration camp.
Then MSNBC jumped on him and said, how dare you compare this to Hitler?
And he said, hey, the British invented concentration camps.
I didn't say death camp, but it is a death camp.
Also, Obama saying to face Iran nuclear crisis in the first year.
Israel saying Obama saying they may attack Iran.
U.N. accuses Israel of hurting 110 Palestinians into a house and then shelling it, leaving 30 dead.
There's scores of witnesses and survivors.
Well, first of all, it just It's a caveman mentality, all this violence.
russell means
You know, the United States, every patriarchal regime in the past, over 6,000 years that patriarchy has been in existence, has made the same mistake over and over and over again.
Patriarchy is a fear-based society that, because it's fear-based, it believes that it's always under attack.
The individual patriarch I don't In
fact, the entire money system is collapsing as we speak.
You'll see them revert to this caveman mentality.
That's why I've always said we have to take an honest and truthful look at patriarchy and come up with another way of not allowing men to be solely in charge, because they blow it.
Every time.
What happened to the Roman Empire is now happening to the American Empire and the Industrial Empire around the world.
For instance, if China and Saudi Arabia were calling their treasury notes that they've bought from the US so they could bankroll their wars, America would go broke.
It would go bankrupt right away.
They cannot pay up their obligations.
The fact that the banking system, now that the Queen of England is broke, she used to be the richest, along with the Rothschilds and the Bildenbergers syndicate, and the Trilateral Commission members, all of those people are now,
and the world is collapsing, so it's going to be everything we've feared, everything those, oh, I forgot this, survivalists, Back in the 70s and 80s we're doing when they were training and doing all sorts of Idiotic things out of fear they were pressing might become true You've got you've got the United States of America Buying its own money from
the Fed the truth it blows my mind that We as a people are so stupid That's stupid.
alex jones
I call that paying to be a, Russell, I call that paying to be a slave.
russell means
Right. But here's what Meyer Rothschild said back in the 70s, 1700s.
He said, let me see, I'm trying to find it.
I don't have it.
Oh, here it is.
Give me control of the nation's money, and I care not who makes her laws.
That's Rothschild.
Now, the Rothschild banking system is what gave birth to all banking systems, and now they're all one.
So that's why, now with Obama in there, and he's just said a couple of days ago in his news conference that Over a trillion dollar deficits will be here for years to come.
Printing phony money.
It's going to eventually, and the sooner the better, that this collapse happens so that we can face reality and get on with life.
But to strangle us to death like they're doing, with their greed and their monetizing everything.
They monetize prisoners in prison.
They've monetized every entity.
Do you know that the reservations, the Indian concentration camps are monetized?
Yes. If you look on Dun and Bradstreet...
alex jones
Now listen, Russell, I would tell people this ten years ago, or longer, that they had bonds, that they were selling derivatives on the people in the prisons, that they have bonds on the number of children cps now native americans went to this first millions of native children taken many times killed sterilized now they're doing that to the white children uh...
and suddenly a whites are upset about it because uh...
again now this predatory system isn't even so much racially based it's money-based by this international elite and they are just savaging everyone uh...
russell means
yes and and and But what gets me, in their bookkeeping, if you call it that, they call it quasi-money.
All this value brought out of thin air.
And they put it into financial packages.
And it's not based on anything real.
It's an imaginary value.
And yet they sell it around the world in these derivative packages and other financial packages.
alex jones
I mean, at least the glass bead wampum had some visual value, but was still a scam to sell New York.
Now, they just show you an empty box and say, look at how beautiful it is, and we sell our whole souls, sell our future, so people make fun of the Native Americans, you know, buying the pretty blue and red glass beads and nails and knives and hair combs.
But, I mean, we've sold our souls for nothing!
russell means
That's exactly right.
And, you know, the United States utilizing Israel as their shock troops in the Middle East, that is so pathetic.
I've never understood that as soon as there's a scarcity of a natural, um, uh, some natural resource, they go military.
They start the bombing and, and the, uh, they taking the prisoners and the slaughters and all of that.
Only because of the scarcity of a natural resource.
It is, instead of creating trade, instead of, but it doesn't change with patriarchy.
That's the sad part.
And that's the dangerous part to our very existence.
It continues.
alex jones
Well, Russell, there's a quote I saw on YouTube by a famous chief, isn't it?
Can you give us that quote?
You got memorized?
russell means
Yes, that's just before Chief Seattle and the Suquamish people of the Suquamish Nation in and around the state of Washington, just before they were marched off from their homeland to a concentration camp slash reservation, he gave a speech.
And in that speech, and in part, he said, he was talking to the commissioners from, the treaty commissioners from Washington, D.C., the government.
He said, your time of decay may be distant.
It's like the waves of the sea.
It is the order of nature, and regret is useless.
Your time of decay may be distant, but it will surely come.
For even the white man's God who walked and talked with him as friend with friend could not escape our common destiny.
We may be brothers after all.
We shall see.
That's Chief Seattle.
alex jones
What a prescient statement, understanding that the very evil you're carrying out is going to come back and bite you in the butt.
russell means
There you go.
What goes around comes around.
alex jones
We're going to be brothers in being murdered and enslaved.
russell means
Exactly. And it's sad that when Kerry, and I have no respect for Kerry, the former presidential candidate at the Democratic Senate, when he was caught saying words to the effect that If you're poor, you're going to end up in Iraq, and worse to that effect.
And he was chastised by the national media and forced to apologize, but he's virtually correct.
As long as they can keep federal control of the schools and dumbing down America and keep you so dumb and poor that you'll be willing to risk your life for For a few crummy dollars that aren't worth anything anyway.
alex jones
Well, I mean, the public schooling as we know it, with the re-education, the shaved heads, the control, the federal public schooling began for natives.
Why don't you briefly explain what the reservation system, what the boarding schools really were, and that's what our public schools with fences and drug dogs and zero tolerance are turning into, and tie that in, as you did eloquently to...
You know, to the Native American experience.
And again, Israel's saying they're carrying that out now against the Palestinians.
russell means
Exactly. Every policy.
And that's why I say the American people are the American Indians of the 21st century.
Because everything that the United States does has been bred and born and practiced on an Indian reservation before exported to the world.
And now it's been brought home to roost on the backs of the American people.
All these policies, health, education, land policies.
Don't you think this credit crunch is getting rid of the family farmers and family ranches?
They are the backbone of America.
And yet we're allowing that to happen because this credit crunch, that's all farms and ranches, family ranches and family farms run on.
So consequently, they're going to be squeezed out and the corporate farming is coming in.
I don't care.
Right wing socialism eventually comes around and meets left wing socialism.
It's one in the same.
It's just a different application.
I don't Now, it's really just domesticating.
alex jones
I mean, they claim it's socialism, but it's only so big corporations get control, and then say, here's socialism, have a poison blanket, you know, have a smallpox blanket.
Now, it's have a MMR shot full of cancer viruses.
russell means
Very, very definitely, yes.
And the boarding school system instituted upon my parents and the Indian people up until, and still, there's some boarding schools going on.
in america today with the indians.
alex jones
Sir, as you know, it just came out a few years ago in Canada that they're killing the native americans up there and sterilizing them still.
russell means
Exactly. And you know, in a four-year period in the seventies, the federal government was caught by the American Indian Movement and a woman by the name of Dr. Connie Urey sterilizing 42% of American Indian women in that four-year period.
of childbearing age.
Unbelievable. 42%.
At the same time, they did 35% of Puerto Rican women in Puerto Rico.
So this is the policy America has fostered on Americans.
And now everybody's getting that.
the populations are going, these manufactured flus forcing us to take I'm And now, you know, we were just absolute slaves with that birth certificate and social security card now.
alex jones
Well, that's why I know you are succeeding and I hope you succeed big time so there is a place to go to when everything collapses.
But then we know they'll probably just bring military in, but you guys will have a legal right if they try to get violent to say no because you, you know, you're allowed to pull out of a treaty that's been broken.
russell means
Right, but there are other countries that are not wholly a part of the IMF system, the World Bank system of finance.
And those countries like Russia, those countries and others that are not part of the banking system wholeheartedly in the world, are going to have something to say as the United States continues to disintegrate and become part and parcel of the United Nations, you know?
That's why they hang on to the United Nations, and another reason is that's where they've been shunted.
Their empire has been shunted into the United Nations.
alex jones
Well, it's not just decay.
These worms of corruption Exactly!
russell means
You know, as much as unions have been vilified, they were the first to see what was happening.
And no one listened to them.
They said, as soon as they, you know, the powers that be in Wall Street, And, uh, in other places, they, financial places, they, they're the ones who emptied out America.
We have nothing to fall back on.
alex jones
Nothing. Just as they did to the Native Americans, it's for total control.
Stay there, Russell Means.
Again, they want you broke back.
They want you controlled, institutionalized, in the modern reservations slash plantations.
But now they're entering a new phase where they just want to exterminate 80% of us.
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alex jones
Anyway you cut it, the Palestinians were driven out.
They were living in peace with the Jews and Christians.
And they were driven out, their markets being shot and bombed, their wells being poisoned, to the edges of what is Israel today.
And then when they're under siege, they try to respond as a bargaining chip with these rockets.
And Israel broke the ceasefire, bombing them.
And our media just lies, because it isn't our media, it's a globalist corporate media.
We're going to have Russell Means, one of the chief leaders of the Native American movement here in the United States, back on in the near future.
In the four minutes we've got left, sir, Yes,
russell means
first of all, the What's going to happen in the forthcoming years, and because we're not coming out of this, is that the United States of America, under Obama, is going to continue to try to hang on by their fingernails to their quasi-power by printing phony money.
And eventually, we're going to end up like Germany did after World War I. And that is We're going to take a wheelbarrow full of paper money to buy a loaf of bread.
That actually happened in Germany, and it's going to happen here.
You cannot continually cheapen the money without the house of cards falling down on you.
And that's exactly what's going to be happening.
And it's just going to get worse.
They're not going to really Look at Obama's plan and it's not about the people.
It's only about strengthening the already failing business system.
You can't have a consumer society when the consumers have no money.
It's idiotic.
It's insanity.
Obama and his henchmen and women are insane.
And that's all there is to it.
Men, patriarchs are insane.
My websites are republicoflajota.com and russellmeansfreedom.com.
alex jones
Russellmeansfreedom.com and republicoflajota.com.
And for those that don't know how to spell lajota, would you spell that for people please, sir?
russell means
Well, lajota is spelled L-A-K-O-T-A-H.
You can spell it without an H or with an H, but L-A-K-O-T-A-H.
alex jones
And I promise, sir, if you'll do it, we'll have you back up in the near future to go more into Obama and separately more into what you sovereign folks are doing out there in your area of the lower 48 with those four states that are clearly your land.
and glad to see what you're doing out there because the United States doesn't even exist anymore.
We're a holding of the internationalists, and that was the final caveat I would add, is that just like Germany also had a Versailles Treaty, we're being blamed for the...
Yes, that's for sure.
russell means
Bank robberies are already What's the term in your native tongue for collapse?
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alex jones
Alright. Russell, let me say bye to you during this break and we'll talk to you again soon.
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We've got Alan Watt for two hours, and open phones with him coming up in T-minus 60 minutes.
After the next break, we're going to have Bob Chapman, who joins us every Friday for about 50 minutes, TheInternationalForecaster.com.
I'm Alex Jones.
My websites are Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
But I wanted to play part of a Russia Today interview with Peter Schiff, where he really boils it down and likens the collapse of the United States that's coming to what happened to the old Soviet Union.
Remember, though, this is all orchestrated and engineered, and we have the documents.
That's something that, unfortunately, Mr. Schiff and Mr. Means and others I don't think understand.
But we'll talk more about that with Bob Chapman straight ahead.
Here is Peter Schiff on Russia Today.
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Buying trillions and trillions of dollars in government debt, and the dollar's just going to implode.
Nobody's going to want it, not even Americans.
When the dollar implodes, what does it mean for Americans living in this country consuming with the dollar?
Well, they're not going to be consuming anymore.
I mean, because the dollar's not going to buy anything.
Remember, the only reason we're able to buy stuff now is because foreigners will send us all the stuff they make in exchange for our dollars.
When they don't want our dollars anymore, we're not going to get their stuff.
And we don't have the factories to produce the stuff ourselves.
And so we're going to have a bunch of money, but we're not going to buy anything.
Are we talking bread lines?
I mean...
Well, if the government imposes price controls, which is something I think is coming, I think under the Obama administration, inflation is going to get so bad that I believe the government is going to follow the misguided footsteps of Nixon and impose price controls on various consumer goods, including food items, energy items.
And if we do that, yes, there will be long lines for everything.
And people will start trading on the black market.
If you want to buy something, you won't be able to buy it officially.
You'll have to buy it in the black market.
And what will the black market currency be?
Will it be the euro?
Will it be silver coins?
uh... what will americans be trading in illegally uh...
to try to procure the things that they need because we are on a collision course uh...
for massive inflation so what do people do to prepare for
Honestly the doom and gloom that you're describing right now what individual Americans need to understand is if they've got dollars invested in in government bonds and municipal bonds and treasuries if they've got insurance if they've got a cash value in that they've got bank accounts they've got CDs all that wealth is going to be wiped out unless they act quickly to get out of US dollars and to move their wealth into foreign currencies into bonds issued by foreign governments or foreign corporations they can buy stocks common stocks traded in I
think. When it comes to foreign policy?
Oh, no doubt.
I mean, America is going to lose its role as a dominant player in the global economy, whether it's economically, whether it's militarily.
I mean, you know, I mean, at one point, the Soviet Union was this giant superpower.
But ultimately, it collapsed because it couldn't finance it anymore, because it never really had the economy.
And once it could no longer support the empire, it collapsed around it.
And it was very quick.
I mean, the Soviet Union was reduced to practically nothing.
In just a short period of time.
And, you know, people wouldn't even believe that it was possible.
I think you have a similar situation where the United States, our entire military presence around the world, could come to a very abrupt end when we can no longer afford to support the empire.
I mean, we only can afford to support it now because of the overvalued dollar and the fact that we're able to borrow so much money from it.
Thank you.
But I think once the dollar collapses...
Our military might is going to follow our economic might, and we're going to be increasingly marginalized.
We're still living off of the reputation that we once had, and we're still squandering the wealth that was handed to us by our grandparents instead of really creating the new wealth.
The new wealth creation is taking place outside the United States.
It's taking place in Asia.
And I think as America falls from grace, you're going to see new economic powers born.
And I think as the American consumer dies, you're going to see consumers in Asia The President wants Obama away.
alex jones
Hello, friends.
This is Alex Jones.
I've told you for a long time it's important to be self-sufficient, and today that's more important than ever.
We need to be independent, and food and water is the key.
You'll never have to stand in a bread line if you have your own bread.
You'll never have to go to the Superdome and beg for FEMA to take care of your family in any emergency if you simply prepare.
Our elected representatives wanted a good old boy bailout for the special interest, so they ignored your screams not to do it.
They turned off the telephones and email.
they voted to print eight hundred and fifty billion dollars at least out of thin air this money now owns the american european banks the exploding inflation that is now guaranteed will slash your life savings to nothing and blast the cost of the sessions particularly food beyond many americans reach in pre-nazi germany super inflation the cost of a loaf of bread doubled every two days until it reached over four billion marks
The private banks merging with our government are refusing to loan grocery stores enough money to restock their shelves.
The stores have less food, but jack up prices to stay in business.
Whatever happens in America, we need to be prepared and be ready.
Everything is zeroing in on food.
One third of Americans have to choose between buying food and paying for other necessities.
My friends, whatever it takes, get prepared, get self-sufficient, get food.
For everybody out there listening, it's very important for you to understand that by having a supply of storable food, the government, the New World Order, has a lot less control over you.
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He has predicted almost every trend and development we've seen.
Very accurate history, and that's the type of guest we bring you.
People who've proven themselves, whereas the mainstream media, the federal government, the Federal Reserve has been lying to you for years saying everything's wonderful, we're sound, having a debt-based economy is good, go into debt deeper, the whole time they were setting up the public.
And we have the IMF and World Bank documents on this.
We have the Bilderberg sources on this.
Three years ago they were planning to pop the subprime mortgage in the next year and a half, which they did.
And then you can argue that it's gotten out of control for them.
I don't know if I agree with that, but regardless, they are going to organize and control the response and out of the crisis, we see government expanding, we see a consolidation of power, vertical integration, a massive destruction of wealth in that transfer, but again, a greater centralization of wealth, this is no doubt happening.
So we'll be taking your calls for Bob Chapman in this hour at 1-800-259-9231.
Bob, we've had the Chief Strategist at the Bank of England come out and say within two to five years the dollar will be completely devalued and dumped.
That's what you've been saying, two to five years.
You say two to three.
Others are coming out and saying similar things.
We have one of the biggest Fund managers in the world coming out today and saying the entire economy is a Ponzi scheme.
I want to get into that.
And then we have UBS and the federal government going around shutting down people's Swiss bank accounts.
But these are the small fry Swiss bank accounts.
This is selectively being done.
It's only 18 billion of these 19,000 accounts.
Sounds like a lot.
It's nothing.
We know it's all really going to Dubai and Luxembourg, so that's all part of selective enforcement as well.
I'm going to get your analysis on that.
But first off, we're suddenly seeing The Economist and all these other publications signal depression.
I had Paul Craig Roberts on.
He said no way to avert the depression now.
He said it will be a He agreed with my term, as you have, hyper-stag inflation.
He said the most devastating combination ever seen.
Nothing like this has ever happened.
Bob Chapman.
bob chapman
Well, let's start off with Peter, and he put it eloquently.
I agree with him.
There's only one thing I disagree with, and he believes that by going into other markets and investing in those places, That you can avoid some of or these problems in America and perhaps what Western Europe and others are going to experience and what in fact the whole world is going to experience dreadful economic and financial experiences.
Nobody is going to be left unscathed and to think that there'll be a decoupling I don't think that's going to happen and that's what Pete is talking about.
I think the only true place to be for safety is gold and silver related assets.
And if you are a wealthy person and you want to have 20 or 30 or 40 percent of your assets in another safe place or a relatively safe place, I have recommended Swiss franc treasuries.
Other than that, I don't have anything to offer other than the fact that's where I disagree with him.
But the rest of what he said is absolutely correct.
alex jones
Well, I mean, when you go into a Mad Max, Beyond Thunderdome type crisis, you only want what you can physically hold.
And all the main analysts are saying this crisis is a black hole that is sucking the world in, and whereas the globalists like to blame the U.S. for this, it's the globalists that did it, and they've run the same Ponzi schemes in every major nation.
bob chapman
And what's happening now, I saw an article this morning from Europe, And they were talking about clients of banks demanding gold coins and gold bars, etc.
They haven't seen that in Switzerland since probably the late 1980s.
And generally, you know, and throughout Europe.
alex jones
Yeah, let's explain.
Swiss bank accounts and other safe havens are saying, we don't want your paper.
Give us gold or we won't hold it.
bob chapman
Well, they're not going that far, but...
alex jones
I've seen reports of that.
Go ahead.
bob chapman
Well, the clients are saying, we want gold.
I mean, that's just the bottom line.
It's as simple as that.
I'm sure that there are many pro-gold Swiss bankers today.
As 10 years ago, there weren't.
20 years ago, there weren't.
There were in the late 70s because I used to spend a lot of time over there.
But, you know, things change.
But anyway, as far as the accounts that you mentioned earlier, yes, that is kind of a shovel of sand into the ocean.
There's a lot more accounts over there than that.
But in October, what happened was that the Swiss banks did agree Why are they going after UBS?
alex jones
Why are they closing 19,000 accounts?
I mean we know that the OECD has been saying they don't want any tax havens.
They want world taxation in every nation.
Under this new global government run by the central banks, the elite banks, where every nation has on average an 80% tax rate, they say France is the model, they call the United States a tax haven, and now the United States has been empowering worldwide the OECD to go out and try to shut down these accounts, but we know it's selectively being done.
Why? I mean, do they just want the money?
Are they setting a precedent?
bob chapman
Exactly, Alex.
They want to control Everybody's money.
And they want to make sure they get every bit of tax that they're supposed to get so they can steal it.
That's really the bottom line on this thing.
And this has been underway for the last eight years under Bush here in the United States.
I mean, I've talked to heads of government who have told me right straight to my face over dinner that they came in here, they told us you're going to do this, this, this, this, and this.
And if you don't, We're going to cut off your internet, all your communications, all your banking connections.
We're going to make it so miserable you'll have no tourism.
You either agree or we'll destroy you.
alex jones
It's just total mafia.
And to explain, the ultra-hyper-rich use government as a vacuum cleaner with the umbrella of force to go around the world, including the United States, Taxing the middle class and the nouveau riche and the new wealth, sucking it into government, then it goes offshore to these globalist combines that are outside the logs.
Example, Goldman Sachs paid less than 1% in corporate taxes in 2008 and in 2007.
So they pay basically nothing.
And then average citizens, let's say you try to own a car dealership, you try to own a restaurant, you try to own a real estate company, you try to own a clothier, anything, they're going to squeeze the daylights out of you.
And then now, let's say you're some middle class person or nouveau riche person who got money offshore.
Even money you had earned.
A lot of these things are people's money they earn.
They just put it overseas.
They don't trust U.S.
banks. Maybe they want to retire in Europe.
They're saying, no, we're taking that money too now.
So literally, this is the mafia government.
bob chapman
And that's why it got to be stopped.
And if it's not stopped, America is going to be pauperized.
Peter brought out, and Paul Craig Roberts and I have brought out before, is free trade and globalization which has led to the destruction of the manufacturing industries in the United States.
One of the ways that we could stop this that's going on, not financially, and there's a reason I'm telling you all this, but for the American worker, is simply to invoke And I think it's coming.
Invoke trade barriers.
Things that we've had since the year 1800.
Tariffs on goods and services.
That would reverse this whole thing.
Now I brought this up because all those transnational corporations are making money by manufacturing goods in China, selling them in America, and the profits go to the Cayman Islands.
Now if you remember three years ago, What they did was the U.S. Congress, which is bought and paid for, they passed a law which was supposed to insert money into companies in the United States so they could hire more people, increase employment.
And that money was to come from these transnationals that had all this money offshore that had never been taxed.
And instead of paying 33 percent, they paid five and a quarter.
What a sweetheart deal on $360 billion.
Now, we should have got 33% of that.
We, the American government.
And that bears out exactly what you're talking about.
Two sets of rules.
One for us and one for them.
alex jones
And they're going for broke by debasing all the nations of the world.
They make us weak, bankrupt, easily controlled.
Meanwhile, they are internationalized.
They aren't beholden to the same set of rules because they're the internationalists.
They're the global government, openly, with the private central bank families, setting world law.
I mean, this is the ultimate tyranny.
This is like a science fiction nightmare.
bob chapman
And that's why Alex is going to only be one answer.
And it's going to be in the streets.
Because these people are not going to give up.
Every nation is going to have the same problem America's going to have.
They're all going to be on the verge of revolution.
That's why I don't think we'll ever see foreign troops brought in to quell anything in America.
I mean, let's say that Brazil was asked to send troops in to America to help put down insurrection.
Well, the minute they do that, they're going to have insurrection of Brazil because there's no troops around.
alex jones
Well, look at Greece.
Look at San Francisco.
The cop cold-bloodedly kills the guy.
They say the cop's going to go free.
He did a good job killing him.
And so the people riot.
What do you expect them to do?
bob chapman
That's right.
alex jones
Thank God they've still got some humanity in them, some anger.
And the media decries it.
They should just sit down and enjoy the fact this young man's dead.
That officer did an excellent job.
That's sick.
And then they lied about it and said there weren't any videotapes.
It turned out there were.
I mean, just unbelievable.
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But briefly, Bob, dealing with the nature of the overlords that are carrying this out, they're not invincible, they're not God, they have a lot of systems of brainwashing and control and deception, but once people lose confidence in them, You know, they'll try to set up new dummy institutions to get confidence.
That's what Obama is, but people are already seeing through that facade rather quickly, and we see that degrading fast.
So I predict within six, eight months, you'll have a 50% approval rating, 40% approval rating instead of 60 plus right now, and then it'll plunge down to about 15% within a year and a half.
Congress still has a 9% approval rating, but Bob, when you read the PNAC documents or Brzezinski's The Great Chess Board or Between Two Ages, You know, they say, we're the world empire, we've got to make this move, it's risky, but we've got to try to enslave everybody.
They're very honest about it.
And so I guess it's the position of, we've got the power, we've got to use it, and so they're overreaching.
I agree with you, I don't see this new world order going too well.
bob chapman
Yeah, I think they've made a lot of mistakes, particularly in the last ten years.
And Brzezinski, three and a half, four years ago, said that, particularly in It's Uh,
in his three minutes on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange a couple of days ago, telling us that Obama's going to usher in the New World Order.
He's letting everybody on Wall Street and corporate America and banking and government know that the program's still on and we're in there and we're going to make it happen.
alex jones
And he's saying you better toe the line.
bob chapman
That's right.
It was essentially a threat.
And I like threats.
Because it makes me more steadfast.
And let's do what they want.
We're going to beat them, Alex.
It's going to be very painful, but we're going to beat them.
alex jones
I agree.
Now we see Pat Robertson saying socialism will save us.
He says other people will accept it.
He says Obama is unstoppable.
Just submit to him.
bob chapman
He's been talking to God again.
Why don't we ever have that opportunity?
Why is it always him?
alex jones
Well, hey, Bob, why do we see all these top real estate brokers, bond brokers, and other Adolf Merkel, one of the world's richest men, mysteriously...
Well, I can't answer why, because I don't know.
bob chapman
They said it was a suicide, but who knows?
You know, I've seen suicides where people have shot themselves in the back.
You know, they've got this thing, this system, so controlled that, Yeah, they confiscate people's cell phone cameras.
alex jones
And it turns out people on another train did get video of it, and now they're in a lot of trouble.
But they're so arrogant, they say, yeah, a cop goes free, nothing we can do about it.
Yeah, this guy threw himself...
bob chapman
But that vein goes entirely through this upper echelon of, we can never be wrong.
We get two sets of rules, one for us, one for you.
And that's the way it's going to be.
Well, I get news for them.
We're going to change it, Alex, aren't we?
alex jones
Well, we don't have any choice.
We've got to.
These people are giving us no quarter.
Let's go ahead and go to a phone call for Bob Chapman.
Don in Canada.
You're on the air.
Hey Don, you want to be on air?
Yep, go ahead Don, you want to be on air?
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey Alex, I just wanted to ask a couple of questions.
One was Marvin Bush.
I'm sort of, I like your movies like 9-11 Truth or Lying, but I'm sort of surprised there's no Marvin Bush footage.
alex jones
I was just wondering, This is a call out to the truthers to get footage of Marvin Bush.
We do talk about how he was running security in the World Trade Centers.
And then the debunkers say that's not true.
It's in mainstream news articles, and his mother wrote about it in her memoir three years ago.
That's how we know about it.
unidentified
Yeah. But...
I just want to say something to the Juthers.
They're doing a great job and keep it up.
And one last question is about Arnold Schwarzenegger wearing the Nazi deathbed belt buckle in the magazine with Bloomberg.
And actually, probably a year ago I saw him with Bloomberg on another cover wearing the same belt buckle.
You know, I'm just shocked that no one's ever asked him a question about that.
alex jones
Because, again, there's rules for us and then rules for them.
He can say he loves Hitler.
He can say he wants to be a dictator.
That's good.
If you say he's a Nazi, the ADL calls you a Nazi.
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Bob Chapman's our guest.
We're continuing with your phone calls.
Sean in New York.
You're on the air with Bob Chapman.
Go ahead.
unidentified
How you doing, Bob?
Um, but I wanted to ask, Bob, pretty much, is it even worth us paying, um, I know it's pretty stupid, but I mean, just asking, since the money's pretty much gonna amount to nothing, is it pretty much even worth paying, like, most of these bills and credit card debts and all these sort of things that the American people are gonna be having to deal with?
I mean, if the money's pretty much gonna be worth nothing at all.
bob chapman
You've got to understand that the people that you owe the money to are still going to be within the system.
There is going to be some kind of a system.
Maybe it'll break down from time to time, but you're still going to have to pay it off.
Just because the value of the dollar goes down, it still means that you have to pay those bills.
The way you protect yourself is to call MIDAS and purchase gold and silver coins.
alex jones
Sir, let me break down the basics of this.
It's a very sophisticated, nuanced question.
Here's the deal, and they've announced this.
England is actually bringing back debtor prisons where they're going to put you in jail if you haven't paid debts, where they're going to allow Repo men, bounty hunters in the U.S. and England, this is now being announced, to come in your house to knock your door down and come in and literally take your jewels, whatever they want.
This is already happening in England, they're proposing it here.
And so what's going to happen is if you don't pay your credit cards, if you don't pay your house, if you don't pay for things like that, when they put us onto a cashless society, And this is already starting to happen.
That means even if you're trying to pay cash, they're going to demand you swipe your card or you pay with a check.
Instead of the check or the credit card scan to see if you've bounced checks, they're already adding to it, do you have bad credit?
Have you ever not paid a credit card off?
And they say, sorry, we're not accepting even your debit card or even your check.
And then they're talking about not even your cash.
So talk about the beast system.
They are saying that you won't be able to buy or sell.
In these major mega-marts which are taking over.
They're actually getting more profitable during the crisis as Main Street dies even further.
And now all over the nation they're raiding watermelon stands, egg stands.
They're raiding people that slaughter their own lamb and sell it at a local co-op.
They are massively increasing bureaucracies to shut down the family farm, animal ID, premises ID.
And so, as they squeeze you, they're then going to make it very hard for you to be in the underground black market or free economy, and they're going to force you into a National ID card where there's no economy left, and they dump credits onto your card that you can barely live on, but then you have to, quote, be part of the National Compulsory Service Brigades.
They're going to have eight separate groups, they've announced, at Change.gov.
So, again, Yeah, the banks, they don't have to pay their bills, but you do.
Now, at a certain point, if it comes down to feeding your families, yeah, don't pay the bills anymore, but that's a moral decision you have to pay.
Don't screw the guy that fixes your car on credit.
That's immoral.
But if it isn't paying a credit card to a private bank that created out a fiat, I see nothing immoral about that.
You just have to understand the consequences of how they're going to use this cashless grid to squeeze you.
People say, I don't care if it's a cashless grid tracking me.
Why do I have to hide?
That grid is meant to rape you financially.
It's run by criminals, genius level people who revel in control.
bob chapman
Absolutely. I couldn't say it any better.
unidentified
Perfect. And one more thing, Alex, I just wanted to ask you.
I know you keep putting out statistics of people really waking up, and I really believe it, but then there's still a lot of time that I can talk to old people and, you know, even people I'm only 24. And I can just still ask some questions and there still seems to be this Obama daze of just not nowhere near understanding half of what's even going on or what's about to come.
alex jones
Well, what did Russell Means just say about Obama?
He says he's pure evil.
And anybody who really knows history knows Obama is a front man.
I mean, as racist as this New World Order is, they didn't put a guy that's half black in there because they wanted to.
They put him in there because they own him, and he's going to sucker people.
unidentified
You know, my confidence, you know, diminishes sometimes because I like, you know, to be intellectual with people and converse back and forth.
That's how actually you can get information across when you're conversing with people back and forth about what's going on.
But old people, even Chinese people, I talk to them, all different, you know, groups, but nobody just still seems to just know what's going on.
alex jones
Well, here's some good news.
Here's some good news.
I went to the mall, because the lady that cuts my hair is in the mall.
I don't normally go to the mall.
I don't really like that culture.
But I'm in there, and I had three separate black guys, two of them working at Little Kiosk, stop me and go, you know, I always liked you for years, but kind of got upset at first when you didn't like Obama.
But I want to basically apologize.
You were right about Obama, and I can see his betrayal.
So give him some time.
The people who won't wake up is white yuppies because they're just so arrogant, they're so trusting in the system that...
Bob Chapman, you want to comment on that?
bob chapman
No, no.
It's perfect.
It reflects exactly what's going on.
And he's just a front man.
And we, you know, we have Team B went in for Team A. And they're all Illuminati, they're all CFR, etc.
And they're going to keep on doing exactly what they were doing before.
alex jones
Yeah, I mean, I say this a lot, but I want listeners to understand something.
This isn't a game.
This is life and death.
I get death threats.
Bob gets them.
Bob's had to leave the country.
Okay? I mean, this is the real world.
We have people attacking us last night that I'm not even going to get into on air.
I mean, it's off the charts.
But again, that's a blessing.
We know we're having an effect.
But for those that are doubting if any of this isn't real or we're exaggerating, we're holding back the severity, Bob.
bob chapman
You're right.
Absolutely right.
alex jones
Anything else?
bob chapman
You know, I'll tell you something.
We are hurting them very, very badly.
And by going to the sponsors of these kinds of programs and helping them keeps us on the air.
Absolutely. There's others like us as well.
We've got to get the word out.
And as Alex just said, people are coming up to him and saying, gee, You know, at the first I didn't believe you, and now I do, and I'm glad you said what you said, and you're truthful, and people desperately need the truth.
alex jones
Absolutely. You were trying to say something else, Sean?
unidentified
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And, you know, I just appreciate you guys coming on every single day, because we tune in every day to learn what steps we can do, advanced steps, to probably fight this thing.
And you guys' information, it's vital to us.
alex jones
Sean, God bless you, and I appreciate that, and that's how we keep going on.
I want to be clear, though, because this is a reflex, this is an instinct you need to have.
I'm not lying to you.
Everything I tell you is documented.
I had a guest on yesterday, and he said, they haven't announced yet that a world government run by banks will control us.
And I said, yes, they have.
And I pulled up Newsweek and a few other articles and put it on screen.
So everything I cover is...
Bob, this is what I just had a huge flashback.
I learned that there's a bill introduced, the Democrats have a good chance of passing, to where the Attorney General is given carte blanche, letter of mark, to ban any guns he wants, and this is the former Clinton Deputy Attorney General, and they are already saying that they will ban most rifles and handguns.
Now, I have the bill number, I've read the bill.
And I'm so busy covering everything else and I'm so subconsciously acclimated to the belief that I really know they're coming after our guns that then I don't even ring the alarm bell because I've been so deep in this fight.
Can you speak to that psychological danger we have that, or do you ever get into that, where you get so acclimated to these horrors that it becomes second nature and you even lose your capacity to become upset by it?
You almost become accustomed to this devilishness because I have the bill right here and I haven't even given the bill number out in two days.
I keep forgetting to get to it.
bob chapman
Well, I think you better give it out right now.
Do you have it?
alex jones
Yeah, I'm going to pull it up in a minute.
I had it up on screen and that's my plan.
bob chapman
Well, I want to say this to answer your question.
You know, after these many years I've been involved in this, the sensitivity is still there to what's going on.
But what you have to do, and I call it compartmentalization in your brain.
You have your field of knowledge, and then you have what the bad guys are doing, and then you have the new events that are coming along.
And you have to first discern what part of the new events that are coming along are important and must be reported on.
And Alex, you're doing the same thing.
And then it becomes...
But you don't lose your sensitivity, and we can see that on the program when you start talking quicker, and we can feel the emotion in your voice.
It's the same with myself.
So you and I, at least, haven't been desensitized.
alex jones
Well, anybody's desensitized.
bob chapman
It's hard to handle it, but we've got to do it for them, all those people out there.
unidentified
Well, I mean it's more nuanced.
alex jones
I guess I'm articulating it right.
I'm more sensitive than ever, but it's like I'm a batter-up with a thousand baseballs coming at me and Just incredible things come on the scene now that would have shaken the whole situation ten years ago, and now there's so many mega-bad things happening that it makes my head spin.
You see what I'm saying?
bob chapman
Yeah. And that is the truth.
I mean, I say to my wife, should we rename the International Forecaster to the International Financial and Economic, Political and Social Inquirer?
I mean, there is no good news out there that I can find.
alex jones
I'm looking for the article right now.
It's just...
Here it is.
Proposed law would allow Obama AG holder to ban guns at will.
Now, when I saw this in WorldNetDaily, I believed it because they're a pretty good source on things like that, but I wanted to go read the bill.
So, this was Monday night, now.
I can't believe, no, Tuesday night.
I can't believe it's all these days I haven't gotten to it.
And it says, Proposed law You know, in a way it's so horrific, I think in a way I psychologically suppress it.
You know, people think I want to get up here and bash cops.
90% of the time I don't even cover the articles I have because it makes me sick.
You know, it's not like we're here even trying to give people all the bad news.
Bob, do you ever kind of just cringe as all the info's coming in because you don't even want to have to analyze it because you're sick of it?
bob chapman
You better believe it.
You better believe it and, you know, it just gets nastier and nastier.
Especially when I see people like Kissinger on television, on CNBC, and in Brzezinski, and people like that.
They're so, so evil.
alex jones
And relishing.
He's saying this crisis is wonderful.
The economic, the military.
He was getting happy.
His eyes twinkled.
He said, this is going to help us.
This is good.
This is going to bring in a new world order.
What a sick bastard.
While those children in Gaza are dead everywhere.
bob chapman
That's right.
And they don't care how many people die.
They're above that.
alex jones
Here it is.
Nemo did a detailed story on it, but he sources World Net Daily and AP here.
Proposed law may allow Obama AG to ban guns at will.
Now, this is the same thing.
Congress cedes unlimited, no oversight, complete power to the private Federal Reserve.
And the Treasury, separate and above government.
Greenspan goes on air and brags, we're above you all, no one can even investigate us.
It's the same thing here.
It's like ceding imperial, god-like, right-of-king power.
It says, it looks like the gun-grabbers may have a field day when the new Congress convenes, according to Bob Unruh, writing for World Net Daily.
Obama's AG nominee, Eric Holder, is a big gun-grabber, I would add, may have the ability to ban guns at will.
They cite H.R. 1022, sponsored by New York Democrat Carolyn McCarthy, and 67 co-sponsors.
And it goes on to say that when the new Democrats are seated in the new House, which I guess has just now happened, they have a good chance of passing it.
And then we have the bill sections here where it just says, at will, he can ban any firearms he wants.
So no longer is there laws.
It's just a blank check, Bob.
And here's Obama, who in Chicago supported total gun bans and said that was reasonable, and who supported the D.C.
total gun ban.
And he says, don't worry, I believe in your Second Amendment.
We can't just carte blanche ban them all at once, but we can, by law, prescribe and ban a lot of them.
I mean, the son of a bitch is on record, and the people are still in denial.
bob chapman
No. you They just don't get it.
And it's part of the brainwashing process.
Half of them are out to lunch.
And whether we'll get them back or not, I don't know, but we will get them once they're in the street, when their house is gone and the cars are gone and the debit card has no credits in it anymore.
That's, unfortunately, when they're going to wake up.
And if they pass this legislation, you better bury your weapons and your ammunition.
Because if you turn it in, you're duck soup.
alex jones
And I apologize for using a little bit of that French, but I mean, that just came out of me.
I mean, this is, they're getting ready to take your guns.
This is America!
And then the FBI's got all these manuals, Bob, saying we're terrorists because we believe there's a new world order and they want our guns.
And then now they're all over the news saying world government, World Newsweek, world government run by a private bank.
And then still the FBI says, no, you're crazy, it doesn't exist.
I mean, how dare them?
They openly work for a bankrupt criminal system!
Absolutely. I mean, how does that double-think work, Bob, to separately say none of this world government exists while they openly announce it?
bob chapman
Again, they do what they want.
They do it the way that they want.
And, you know, there's nobody to stop them except Your program and programs like it.
alex jones
I mean, this is the last hope.
I mean, I want to ask the FBI and people that are involved in all this.
I mean, you like being the guys that are coming for our guns.
You like being the guys that support the Madoffs that are looting the country.
You like being the guys that work for the people that run the child kidnapping rings that are in mainstream news.
I mean, you really like...
Or you deny and say, oh no, it's not criminal.
No, you know it's criminal.
It's bankrupt from pillar to post.
And you say, well, I'm not involved in that directly.
Yeah, but your silence and being part of the system, you are guilty.
You are accessories.
Bob Chapman.
bob chapman
Well, I agree with that completely because they know what's going on.
And it's situation ethics, if you may.
And they justify it by the paycheck.
And you get the same thing with law enforcement.
And they better wake up, because if they come after us, they ain't gonna go home.
alex jones
Well, who could imagine they'd actually get away with this?
I mean, they're coming for the guns now.
They've introduced a bill where they can ban whatever they want, whenever they want, a blank check, and the Federal Reserve Governor is in Bloomberg saying, That even the regional Fed isn't involved in decisions, that a group above Treasury and the Fed New York has implemented war powers.
War powers!
Folks, that's martial law.
That's a hoity-toity name for martial law.
Over the Congress, over the system.
Bob Chapman, stay there.
We'll come back, take more phone calls.
I want to keep you five minutes into the next hour on this Friday edition.
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I'm going to come back in the next little segment, take a few more calls.
But right now, briefly, I wanted Bob and Ted Anderson to have a chance to talk, because I know the Midas Resources also offers a trial copy of the International Forecaster.
But Ted is doing Gold is Up Again Today, but Ted bought it a few weeks ago at the $7.60 level.
So he's, again, the price is close to, I guess, $90 under what it is right now.
So he factors that into the savings.
Ted, tell folks out there about today and throughout the weekend the gold offer, and then I don't know what Bob's going to say.
I want to see what he's going to say, because he's a great analyst on this, of how good a deal he thinks it is.
So Bob Chapman and Ted Anderson, you guys talk.
ted anderson
Yeah, well basically what I have right now Alex, I mean gold did edge up again today and seen a peak of 868.90 which means it is getting stronger.
The unemployment figures came out way low.
I mean way higher than what it was.
So I mean it's just the whole economy here is melting down.
What I did is I picked up some francs here just a short while ago at that price level that you're referring to and they're currently at 204 where the British sovereign is at 252.
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I just can't think of a better time for people to be getting involved in the gold and silver.
Plus, also having the support of rising market prices, you know, the...
Just, you know, the whole thing.
I mean, that gun issue that you're talking about earlier on should make people's blood boil.
But, I mean, it's all tied together.
This whole New World Order thing, this Democrat versus Republican, right versus left, and you're talking about how it's this team or that team that has to win.
I mean, it's like in a football game here in Minnesota.
It's the Vikings versus the Green Bay Packers.
It doesn't matter.
It's still the football game that's being played.
And that's exactly what's going on here economically.
alex jones
Well, let me break this down and get Bob's take on this.
Look, we've got the head strategist of the Bank of England saying the dollar within two to five years will be gone, maybe even faster.
All these other world leaders are now saying it, I guess trying to signal that.
There may come a time when you can't buy gold and silver with Federal Reserve notes.
Folks, you need to move into gold and silver right now.
Bob, A, is this a good deal, Ted's offering?
B, why is gold and silver important to hold?
bob chapman
Well, first of all, gold and silver is important to hold because it's the ultimate money.
And when you have a devaluation, the value of what you own in gold and silver is going to go up in value versus the paper currency.
As far as the francs are concerned, they're an excellent buy.
Excellent. In fact, it's an extraordinary buy.
But the point is, even after the francs are gone, they're sold out.
You've got to continue to keep on buying.
It's the only safe place for you to be.
alex jones
By the way, that's the next point.
You know, Ted's been doing this 30 years.
You've been doing it even longer than that.
But, you know, as a broker, just analyzing it, not on the hard sales side.
Ted, even though most of his competition can't even find Franks and things, they're now sending him.
Most of them are uncirculated, meaning they're getting down to their last stores, Bob.
bob chapman
Well, that is not surprising with the reports I hear coming in from all over the world that it's extraordinarily difficult to get gold and silver, and particularly in coins.
I mean, you know, this is everywhere.
alex jones
Let me fire the number out.
800-686-2237.
800-686-2237.
And there'll be brokers there until midnight Friday.
And Ted, does this deal go through the weekend?
Yeah, we'll hold it right through the weekend.
800-686-2237.
Folks, we're going to start the next hour and I want Ted to be able to finish up his one minute comment, then I'll take one or two final calls for Bob Chapman.
But again, that number, 800-686-2237.
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alex jones
All the callers that have been holding.
If you want, you can talk to Alan Watt.
If not, you can hang up.
But we're going to go to Andrew in London in a moment.
That's all we have time for with Bob Chapman because we've got Alan Watt coming up.
Everybody else will get to you.
We just wanted to talk to Bob.
You can hang up, as I said.
But, Ted, do you have 50 buffaloes to offer today as well?
ted anderson
I didn't get enough time to say that.
I do have the buffaloes as well, and they're currently right now at 1,036.
I am, again, going to limit that supply just to 50 because it's trickling.
alex jones
Those have huge premiums everywhere else.
That's a lot more per ounce of gold than the Franks, but that's more of a collectible because they're very scarce.
The Franks, the Sovereigns, you've got them all, 800-686-2237.
What was the final point you wanted to make, Ted?
ted anderson
Well, the final point was you're talking about at some point in time paper currency can't buy gold or won't buy gold, and that's already occurring.
The supplies of gold in the physical market with the coins are drying up, and you're trying to trade paper for gold.
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I mean, think about it.
ted anderson
Paper for gold.
Why would paper be worth gold?
And the only reason why it is is because the United States government has been, you know, living on a legacy that paper was once exchangeable for gold.
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And since then, we've lost all fiscal responsibility, and there's no budget that's being held with any kind of containment.
ted anderson
And the printing press is just merging on, and obviously paper will not buy gold in the future, and I suggest that you do it now while it can.
alex jones
800-686-2237.
You're not going to find a better deal on those francs and sovereigns anywhere else and that's a great deal also.
out of them, what, six, eight months ago.
Thank you, Ted Anderson.
ted anderson
Yeah, thanks for having me up, Alex.
alex jones
You bet.
That goes throughout Sunday evening, I guess into Monday morning.
Bob Chapman, we're going to take a call from London, Andrew.
But in closing, anything you want to add to what Ted said?
bob chapman
No, I think he covered it pretty good.
alex jones
Andrew in London, you're on the air with Bob Chapman, theinternationalforecaster.com.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi guys.
I know you guys recommend gold.
I think that's great.
I wanted to ask you about Treasury Inflation Protected Securities, the Treasury bonds linked to inflation.
What's wrong with that as an idea, in addition to gold?
bob chapman
Well, a major problem is the linkage on the CPI figure is bogus.
So if you have a 2.5% yield Right.
year note and inflation in reality right now is probably somewhere in the vicinity of 11%.
Why would one want to do that and have a guaranteed loss and pay taxes too?
unidentified
I was just thinking as, you know, if you don't want to put everything into gold, then you might try some of these as well.
bob chapman
Well, I steer away from the U.S. currency.
There's not a lot of people who agree with me, but that's normal for me.
And I've been recommending Swiss franc government bonds.
For the whole lot, that to me is the best shot.
But the best shot among currencies, if that's where you have to be.
If you don't have to be there, you've got to be in gold and silver.
unidentified
Right, and how do you recommend buying currencies then?
Right.
bob chapman
I essentially don't.
unidentified
I think the bonds are a better vehicle.
bob chapman
usually yield about 1%, and if you must be there, I think that's the best shot.
unidentified
Okay, great.
alex jones
Thanks. Sir, I mean, if you have tremendous assets, I would be greatly diversified, but for the average person, gold and silver is the way to go or to have paid off property, but with property taxes, you really don't own it, and they can take it that way too, right, Bob?
bob chapman
That's right.
So you got to have some of those Federal Reserve notes available in order to pay that tax.
It's extraordinarily important.
alex jones
All right.
Bob Chapman, I want to thank you folks and get a free copy of the International Forecaster when they call Midas Resources at 800-686-2237.
800-686-2237.
I want to thank you for coming on.
We'll talk to you again next week, Lord willing.
bob chapman
Okay. Thank you, Alex.
Bye bye.
alex jones
Thank you, Bob.
There he goes.
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