Alex Jones and Kevin Ryan dissect the 9/11 collapse, alleging fraudulent NIST reports and controlled demolition via nanothermites while exposing alleged Port Authority cover-ups. The discussion expands to student censorship in Minnesota and Austin, where youth face punishment for questioning official narratives, alongside filmmaker Tommy Pallotta's critique of studio control and government internet rating systems. They debate the New World Order, David Rockefeller's alleged role, and President Obama's betrayal, concluding that listeners must self-educate and organize against a corrupt surveillance empire to resist tyranny. [Automatically generated summary]
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We're joined for the next 50 minutes by Kevin Ryan.
Kevin Ryan, of course, was an engineer working in underwriting laboratories and discovered internal studies that had been done by the underwriters, which is underwriting laboratories of the Towers.
That clearly showed that fire could not have brought those buildings down the way that the government was claiming.
So he tried to get them to go public.
They wouldn't.
He wrote a letter to them publicly about it and they fired him.
So I think it's better for Kevin Ryan to introduce himself, some of his background, the saga he's been through, and the amazing research he's done, not just in a thermite and thermate and explosives, And the testing of that, but who at NIST is involved in the cover-up?
They just so happen to be thermate experts in their own right, with NASA and other groups for missile coupler separation seals.
And a lot more.
And it's been about six months since he dropped those original bombshells here on air.
He, of course, works with architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth and other groups.
And we are very, very honored to have Kevin Ryan on the show with us today.
I was, as you said, fired from Underwriters Laboratories and that was over four years ago in 2004.
And I had been questioning them for about a year or so about the fire resistance testing that they did.
Um, 40 years before, um, for the World Trade Center Towers, they had done fire resistance testing of the steel components used to build the World Trade Center Towers.
And the CEO had told us about it.
And I had spoken with the fire resistance testing manager at the time about it.
And they were reluctant to share that information publicly.
So we were asking Myself and one or two others in the UL about that testing and why the towers could possibly have failed from fire as a result.
And couldn't get any answers from the upper management.
So I went ahead and wrote a letter to the National Institute of Standards and Technology after I saw one of their draft reports, which I think we've seen now over the years leave a lot lacking than this.
Reports are completely false.
Each one of them has been false, and they've contradicted each other.
But when they first put out a draft report in October 2004, I wrote them a letter that got me fired from Underwriters Laboratories, where I was laboratory manager and the top manager for one of their divisions.
I've since done a lot of writing and research on 9-11, become the co-editor of the Journal of 9-11 Studies with Stephen Jones.
A few years ago, I am a member of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truths.
We also have a local group here where I live called the 9-11 Working Group.
And so I do a lot of writing and research, presentations around the country, and whatever I can to get the truth out about 9-11.
Why did you first question the collapse of the towers as an engineer, and then let's walk through the evidence of cover-up, trying to suppress you and others, and kind of a recap of the evidence that has come out that continues to make a compelling case for controlled demolition, and then the new research that's been developed that is, well, in a whodunit sense, bombshell But then this isn't a whodunit.
This isn't some PBS mystery theater.
This is the real world.
This is inside job material, and this shakes the very foundation of our world to its core.
Well, yeah, and the reason I first started questioning it was for, I think, a number of the reasons that you do what you do, Alex, and trying to get the word out, getting people prepared for a Pretty big transition here in society and, you know, it's coming.
There's nothing we can really do about it, but it is important to be aware of the facts of what has happened over the last few years and try to prepare ourselves for the future.
And so, you know, the first things that I noticed were if a steel has been tested for fire resistance for a number of hours, in fact, in furnaces, At temperatures that exceeded the temperatures that we all agreed actually existed in the towers, then how could the towers have failed from fire?
Those questions were not answered and they still have not been answered.
The NIST group has done a lot of tap dancing about The issue, and they've given us a number of false stories.
So, you know, ultimately they do have to admit all those things, but there was a presentation that was occurring since 2002 when they started their report.
They're investigating, and then this year, when they finally put out the World Trade Center 7 report, it was always kind of a piecemeal presentation, almost as if they were asking us, do you believe this?
They'd have a public media presentation, and they'd say, what about this?
You know, and some of us, like myself, would speak up and say, hey, that's not going to work.
And then they'd come up with something different.
And with World Trade Center 7, it's nothing more blatant than that.
The diesel fuel story.
It was certainly the diesel fuel and all of the major media reported this over and over again.
Or it was the scooped out theory, the towers had fallen.
And they've now reversed themselves on all of that.
Then it was shoddy construction when the building was overbuilt, as you know.
Have you seen the new video with Brian Williams on there interviewing the Deputy Fire Chief, one of the commanders, who says, well, we were ready to bring it down.
You know, there was talk of us bringing it down ourselves.
I mean, how many videos does it take of police and firemen saying the feds were getting ready to bring it down?
I mean, not just Silverstein.
I mean, do we have to have like a footage of Bush with a plunger?
The extent of the cover up is really so incredible.
And I think that's part of the value of 9-11 Truth.
You know, I'm interested in how this much deception could have been carried on for so long.
And how each of us as the listeners of this story, you know, kind of participated, or some of us, in allowing it to be just a huge lie for so long.
So I'm interested in that sort of thing as well, but mainly the physical research that we're doing now has to do with the alternative hypothesis, and now really the only, not only hypothesis, but theory, since it's got so much evidence.
The demolition theory, or what I call the deceptive demolition theory, So that people don't forget that it's really based on deception.
It's been proven, but they kind of call it a law, but it started out as a theory.
The public thinks conspiracy and theory, that number one, there's no government conspiracies, though history's full of them, and Nixon got in trouble for a government conspiracy.
And then they said there's no such thing as theories.
Well, we know the official theory of why these towers turned into matchsticks and dust.
We know that's a fraud.
So we set about going, OK, what does the evidence show is the most probable hypothesis?
And it's going to be it's not going to be extremely simple.
It's not going to be simply the question of whether planes brought the buildings down or somebody just decided to do a typical demolition of the World Trade Center towers.
That's not the question.
The question is, did the planes bring the buildings down, which we know is not true, or did somebody fly planes into the buildings in order to present the idea that the planes brought the buildings down while doing a deceptive demolition?
And so, if we keep all that in mind, part of the deception is having fire exist where it would not have otherwise existed.
Other parts are creating fire.
In the elevator shaft that is so extreme that would weaken the core of the buildings and also very likely From what we've heard from testimony, explosions in the basements as well.
Those were way before the main collapse was initiated with the towers, with the top-down demolition versus the classical, or more classical, bottom-up situation with Building 7.
I want to come back with Kevin Ryan.
And Kevin, have you walk through that and then all the new thermite information.
That you have, but I mean, stepping back from this, do you ever wake up at 3 a.m.
at night, sweaty like I do, or freaked out?
You know, consciously we know it's an inside job, the evidence shows that, but to like come to grips kind of like, you know, when you're not conscious and awake and psychologically dealing with it, when it kind of floods in of, oh my God, people run the government that really killed 3,000 people and I mean, these are wild men to pull off something of this daring in front of everyone.
I mean, these people, what else are they capable of?
Yeah, that's a good question, but I'd like to think that we're still in the majority, Alex.
The American people and the people of the world who are generally honest and interested in survival still have a chance, in my opinion, so we need to get the word out.
I mean, about every few weeks I'll wake up 3, 4 a.m., covered in sweat, thinking about 9-11.
And I'm like, oh my God, I'm this prominent person fighting murderers who will just kill 3,000 people like that to get power and to be able to launch wars.
And I've got to just literally cry out to God for support or I couldn't continue on.
Stay there, Kevin Ryan.
We appreciate your courage.
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I see Betty, Don, and many others that want to speak to our guest, Kevin Ryan, formerly with Underwriting Laboratories, an engineer, who found out about all this stuff.
And look, I mean, you can't, dealing with reality, you can't just say, well, it's too scary to know it's an inside job.
So Dr. Jones came on the scene in 2005 and was just a very strong scientific, credible scientific speaker in terms of what he was finding.
And since then, Dr. Jones and myself and others have proven beyond question, I think, and others before us, That the towers and World Trade Center 7 were brought down with explosives.
There's no question about that.
The additional information was the development of the thermite or thermate theory from Dr. Jones.
And that's because he was able to find residues and test them and show that they were chemically identical to the residues from thermite.
And by the way, separately, the government's own reports buried in the data was the sulfidation and other chemical interactions that he had separately found in his own research.
So a lot of what you guys have done is seconded in the real government research, not just the official spin they put out.
It's supported by official reports of various kinds.
But then we started looking into what are called nanothermites, and these are More explosive versions of thermite that are built around components that are on the nano scale.
So nano aluminum and sometimes also nano metallic powders, metallic oxides that are mixed with the nano aluminum.
And there's one reason that these are very useful in my view.
They ignite at much lower temperatures.
They are explosive, very much so.
And also, they create fire, as I suggested, where fire would not otherwise have existed.
They're also applicable to this situation in that if you look at where the fireproofing upgrades and the elevator work was done in the two years before 9-11, you find out that the floors where fireproofing upgrade was done match up very well, almost exactly, if not exactly.
With the floors of impact and fire and failure or so-called failure in the towers.
And so that just, you know, it becomes an easy path almost when you look at that and you say, well, a very strong part of the theory now is that nanothermites were Which are sprayable, can be coated.
I think it's very possible that the idea is that they could be told that it's intumescent paint, which is a fireproofing type of paint, or other types of fireproofing materials.
And even the Port Authority's consultant Burl Happold, an engineering company from the British from the United Kingdom suggested to them at the time when they're doing these upgradings that they use alternative materials.
So they didn't explain what those alternative materials are.
Yeah, so we look more into these nanothermites, and I've been making them, actually.
I've been making them now, I made a couple of formulations that were published by Lawrence Livermore National Labs, and I've been examining a lot of the World Trade Center dust samples, and looking in surprise, I guess, at how similar these materials look When you look at them under a microscope.
And then NIST, and we're going to come back in a long segment, and I want you to break this down slowly, sir.
It just so happens that NIST has been acting like they don't know what you're talking about, but they happen to have some thermate, nanothermite experts working there.
Well, since they're such explosive thermite experts with NASA, why don't we... I mean, have you had a chance to talk face-to-face with these nice people?
Uh, because, uh, I know you go to some of these events.
I want to hear about this with Kevin Ryan, the engineer, who's bringing down the New World Order lie.
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We know the Pentagon's worked with this, NASA's worked with this, and the folks at NIST should know all about it, because it just so happens, of only maybe ten experts in the world, you've got a couple of them that just so happen to be given the investigation.
So I would imagine they want to work with you, since this is their line, their specialty, their signature.
We know they want to help America capture the terrorist, So, Kevin, continue with the spheres themselves, and then, lo and behold, top experts in the world involved running the cover-up, I mean investigation.
Kevin, Ryan, please continue, because we're really getting close now, aren't we?
And if you go to the Journal of 9-11 Studies, I published a paper, one of my own papers was published there, called The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nanothermites.
And I think the paper is from July of this year, but it steps through an explanation of nanothermites and it talks about how NIST was working with Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories as early as 1999.
I believe earlier than that, but that documentation It's important, but you can get all the references from this paper.
You don't have to take my word for it.
Step through it and see that NERC is very closely working on nanothermites.
They had people like Forman Williams, who was their lead engineer on their advisory committee and also was the biggest engineering expert for popular mechanics.
And he is an expert on just these sorts of materials.
We always joke and say in the encyclopedia next to the word dumbass there's a picture of you, but literally in the encyclopedia next to yellow journalism is a picture of them!
Well, you know, they're Science Applications International, which is a very large engineering consulting and other defense consulting company that was very heavily involved in the NIST investigation and they're experts on this sort of material.
They also first investigated the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and it was their analysis that kind of produced the official story.
They were also responsible for helping out with the security upgrades at the World Trade Center in the late 1990s.
So this Science Applications International, SAIC, company is connected in every possible way.
Through their former employees, Jerome Hauer and Stephen Hatfield, to a number of things like the Anthrax incidents and the Rudy Giuliani administration.
But these directors of NIST are most interesting to me.
One of them is Arden Beamont, who is a materials expert and metallurgist.
I mean, this is right up his alley.
He's a former Deputy Secretary of Defense and former Director of DARPA's Materials Office.
former executive at TRW.
And there's just all sorts of connections.
Battelle, he's a director at Battelle, which is an organization that manages the national laboratories, including Fort Detrick and Lawrence Livermore.
October 2001, right after the attacks, is when George W. Bush nominated Beeman to be the head of NIST.
When Beeman was Ready to move on, which is a few years later, Bush nominated Harach Simerjian to be his replacement.
He was the director of NIST's chemical division and he is somebody who is a nanothermite expert and wrote 10 papers With the world's leading nanothermite expert, Michael Zachariah, used to be a NIST employee as well.
You know, Alex, to be serious, it's really apparent that these people were hired and brought into the investigation because they knew what not to look for.
They knew what to avoid looking at, and they certainly did that.
There was no testing per the national standard for fire investigation.
Well, I'm really interested in also people who were working on novel fireproofing, right?
So we're talking about what alternative fireproofing may have been involved.
And how they could be related to nanothermic coatings.
So Richard Gann, who is the guy who actually did the final editing for the NIST report, he was one of the top people, was working on a novel fireproofing project for a couple of years before 9-11.
And he involves some of the world's leading experts on nanothermites.
It's a very strong theory at this point, and if your listeners go to 9-11 Blogger, I put up a blog piece that has a slideshow of Twenty-six microphotos are from a microscope, and you can see that half of them are nanothermite residues from materials I've made and ignited.
And then the residues look identical, or very nearly identical, to the magnetic portion of the World Trade Center dust.
So there's these red-orange chips, there's all these spheres, there's other types of molten formations, These vesicular formations, clearly the remnants of an explosion.
So, if you look at this slideshow at 9-11 Blogger, I think it'll be, you know, people like pictures, so we're unfortunately, to some extent, becoming almost an image-only society.
So I'm trying to reach out to the people who are more compelled by images than all the writing I've done, which is something for people who do a lot of reading.
These are long essays that I write, but they are interesting.
But the photos are just really compelling.
If you take a look at those, I think you'll see what I'm trying to say here.
Apart from the photos and the writing, there's a large group of scientists now around the United States and in Europe, in several laboratories in Europe, That are doing chemical and physical tests on the World Trade Center dust particles that we're finding.
And you know, there's some fairly well conclusive papers being written, led by Stephen Jones at this point and others.
Some newer, younger research scientists and some in Europe.
Well, Kevin Ryan, I want to get into that and take some calls, but I'll tell you what really let me know two years ago that you guys were on to something.
The way the media attacks you and the way operatives, who I was already watching in the 9-11 Truth Movement, savagely went after you and Jones, they really showed who they were.
The establishment is scared to death of this thermite, thermate research, and that now as you dig deeper in, and the who's who of explosive thermite and special fire coating are all bivouacked, you know, cloistered around this, acting suspicious, and the NIST reports are all frauds.
I mean, my God, we're dealing with some hardcore individuals here, and I just want to say from the bottom of my heart, you've got a lot of courage, my friend, and the people involved with you do, because Because, I mean, this is the biggest whodunit ever, and you, I mean, we know now, I mean, this is, I mean, there isn't a grand jury out there that wouldn't call for a further investigation of this.
I mean, these people are just wicked.
I mean, to know that you guys have done the research that's got you one step away from having your hands on the perpetrators, that has got to really be bracing.
Yeah, just take a look at a three-way crossroads, and that is who had access to the buildings, who had access to the technologies, and who was involved in the cover-up.
If you look at those three groups and try to find connections, you'll find a good deal of connections.
Well, I mean, what's so incredible, folks, we're on the air right now giving you just proof on a silver planter.
And this is just the scientific evidence and then these former deputy defense heads and all these spooks in a spook building, Building 7, all of this going on.
Then you've got the firefighters and police saying, get back, we've been told they're bringing it down, and Silverstein slipping up and saying, we gave the order to bring it down, and gave the order to watch it come down, to pull it.
You know, we have all the videos of cops live saying, get back, not just the eyewitnesses now saying, yeah, I was a cop, or I was a firefighter, or I was an emergency worker, and they said, it was on the radio, a countdown.
And then I remember hearing on the news they were going to blow up 7.
They go, no, we never said that, it fell on its own.
I mean, this is incredible!
Kevin Ryan, I mean, this is amazing!
We have them!
We have them!
And I guess they're just counting on the public not being able to deal with the horror.
And believe me, it horrifies... I mean, how did you deal with this?
I know you're a scientist and engineer, but how did you deal with it as the evidence just piles on the evidence?
And then you know you're dealing with mass murderers here.
Yeah, it was an incredible shock for me in 2003 when I got it.
Yeah, I started working very heavily on investigating it myself and asking a lot of questions of people I knew, and of course it was a serious blow to me to get fired from my job, and I had to take some time and take care of my family first before continuing.
But it's been recently in the last year or two just something that I know needs to be done, okay?
We know we have to figure out what happened.
We have to communicate as much of it as we possibly can.
And that's what we can do, and okay, you know, like you said, you ask God for help, and if that helps you and it does help me, then that's what you do.
No, literally, I would collapse if it wasn't for the higher power, and people can laugh at that out there, but I guess they haven't been in this type of psychological adversity to be coldly looking at the facts.
I mean, Kevin, as you know, there's over 200 declassified examples where Elements of the government have admittedly staged terror.
So, I mean, they do it over and over again.
They just did it so big on 9-11.
And people say, well, let's just forget about it.
It's too horrible.
If we leave these people in power, they're unstable.
First of all, we have to take responsibility For the deception in our lives.
That's what we're trying to do here.
We take responsibility for that.
Then we start building a new society.
That has to happen.
I'm afraid it has to happen.
So, you know, the most positive approach we can take, but definitely moving forward for ourselves and not expecting the government or whoever, powerful entities to take care of things for us, because they're going to take care of things for us.
But as you say, They're not necessarily on our side.
You know, people need to go get... You guys have now done peer-reviewed studies as well by major scientific journals, have looked at your findings and found them to be accurate, and more are now being reviewed.
You put a lot of work into this, you and Stephen Jones and other physicists and architects and engineers.
I guess it's now up to the listeners to get these scientific reports and give it to other engineers, friends and family, you know, that are in these fields.
Because I really think it's the fact that this scientific debate is what's going to lead to really this being forced out into the open.
We're going to come back and go to Betty, Don, Dan, and a few others specifically.
Poor Kevin Ryan, he's an engineer.
He saw their internal reports about the towers.
He tried to go public and they fired him.
Well, thanks to this hero, we're very close to identifying those who were involved in the master planning of the 9-11 attacks.
The investigation continues.
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I just wanted to remind people that the nanothermite theory is only part of the demolition theory, and that the World Trade Center is only part of the 9-11 truth movement, so there's a great deal of information people need to continue to investigate and there's a lot of good books and movies out there that help us with that.
Yeah, it definitely looks very much like a classic demolition.
So it was done differently, I would be sure of that.
We need to just get to whatever clues we can find.
So when I'm looking at the intersection of people involved and people who had access to technologies in the buildings and nanothermite residues, we're looking for clues and we're going to dig those out and expose them as much as possible and then move on.
Well, I think the bigger issue here is, too, psychology.
People don't understand a military mind, a commander-level mind.
We're going back thousands of years ago.
A general would put, you know, 500 of his cavalry or his ground troops to be captured to bring an enemy in so they could then destroy the larger force, knowing that the pawn's sacrifice would be killed.
And, you know, that's how back in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, they had operations like Shad and others, where they would nerve gas our own troops to death.
And they found a group of doctors who would do that because they believed the end justifies the means.
And so out of that mindset, they've created military cadres that will do this.
Well, America needs to get tough and we need to stage a terror attack to get the people straight.
I'm sad we've got to kill 3,000, but it's for America.
You know, it's for Israel.
And, you know, that's really how you get this type of thing going on.
You know, they'd tell them, we've got to nerve gas our own troops, because the Russians may use it, and the knowledge we gain here may save millions.
And so they'd kill our own troops.
But really, the test was about creating cadres of Army doctors that would do this type of crap.
So let's go to the calls here.
Betty in Wisconsin.
Betty, you are on the air.
Welcome.
Hello Betty.
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Yeah, hi.
Thanks for Alex Jones Show and InfoWars and Prison Planet for being there.
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My question is, I'm reading this on the website for Kevin Ryan, a former UL manager.
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We've got a young man fighting for 9-11 treatment at the public schools, being persecuted for that.
Coming up, and then Tommy Pallotta of the last 40 minutes, good friend of mine, a Hollywood film producer, an expert on new media, to talk about that with us today.
Don in Texas, you're on the air with a real American hero.
That's right, it's not some football player, though that's enjoyable and fun to watch.
This is a real hero risking his life, his name, losing his job to blow the whistle on the 9-11 inside job, Kevin Ryan.
Don from Texas, you're on the air with Kevin Ryan.
unidentified
Yeah, Kevin, Alex, God bless and keep you both for what you're doing.
I saw the Trade Center collapse live on television, knew it for what it was by virtue of my military training in demolitions.
And Kevin, you just asked what we can do as individuals.
You know, and you and Alex, you're doing it.
We're all called to be therapeutic messengers, and we have the individual power To visualize at a cellular level and resonate what we know to be truth beyond technological means.
Well, we've just got to get the word out, period, and there is that whole hundredth monkey that's been proven scientifically where you'll have a research island with monkeys, and as soon as a few of them learn it on this island, they spontaneously pick it up 20 miles away.
But, you know, regardless, we're physically getting the info out, and I appreciate your calls, Don.
Dan in New York, a final call for Kevin Ryan.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey Alex, I was wondering what would be the reasoning for the 9-11 attacks?
I know one of them is imperialization of the Middle East, but... Actually, Zbigniew Brzezinski and the Grand Chess Board in 97 that was then plagiarized by the PNAC document September 20, 2000, Rebuilding America's Defenses, penned by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, they're attributed to writing it on their own website, says, trillions in no-bid weapons contracts, trillions in oil, unifying the people behind a Pax Americana or global empire, there's got to be an outside threat on the order of Pearl Harbor.
Pearl Harbor killed 2,890-something people, so did 9-11.
Coincidence?
And then we have all these other government documents, like Northwoods, where they explain, we stage terror attacks, we blame it on foreign enemies as a pretext to take control of society, even declare martial law in America.
Yeah, I think you're right, Alex, and I think we just have to recognize, although it's difficult to believe, that there are people whose greed and whose thirst for power is just more than anything that they can than they can deal with, and that they ended up just destroying everyone else around them.
So that appears to be part of the situation with 9-11.
Well, I would guess that Barack and his administration, Senator Obama, is probably not going to be much different than Senator McCain or Senator Biden or the Bush family.
They're largely, I think, the same people.
They appear to be nominating the same types of people as have been in power before.
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All right, coming up in 15 minutes, we've got my good friend, Hollywood movie producer, artist, writer, director, Tommy Pallotta in studio with us for just 40 minutes.
I want to have this young man back for a full hour to talk about activism in the future, but we've only got him for this one segment today.
Robert Wannick is a 15-year-old high school student and 9-1-1 Truth activist.
He has fought against indoctrination and censorship in his schools and runs the website knowneocons.com.
I love that website!
I didn't know that was his.
And Robert's YouTube videos have received tens of thousands of hits, more than that.
And not only did his principal tell him he couldn't wear a 9-11 truth t-shirt, well, then they blacked it out in the school annual, censored it when everybody else was allowed to have messages on their shirts.
Then their textbook tells them that New World Order's good, world government's good, but then when he complains about it, they tell him it doesn't exist.
But then he has videos with the textbook, and we've checked out the textbook.
It does have that chapter.
So classic double thinker, taught psych warfare.
Oh, it says that, but you're not seeing that, Winston.
So I want to play a little clip of him from YouTube up on screen, and we're going to go right to him.
Here it is.
unidentified
The teachers and the faculty laugh.
They literally call it a conspiracy.
Even though it's been admitted, it's a conspiracy.
But now I'm taking American History.
Here's my book.
American History.
And as I was looking through it today in class, I came across something that we will be learning about.
America in the New World Order.
You can see that I hope.
Nope. 1970 to the present.
They talk about how NAFTA is a big part of the New World Order.
The one thing they should talk about is the NAFTA Superhighway, but they don't dare mention that in our history books.
They also try to promote the already failed War on Drugs by saying it promotes extreme violence.
And we all know that the War on Drugs is a massive failure, but they're trying to drill it into kids' heads that it is being a success.
There's more there and he was also told that you could have any non-violent message you wanted on your shirt, but his 9-11 inside job wasn't allowed, so that got censored as well.
Let's go ahead and go to Robert.
Robert, it's great to have you here with us, my friend.
unidentified
Yeah, thanks Alex, I appreciate you bringing me on today.
I mean, look, you're not allowed to talk to other people in prison.
You're there to be indoctrinated and learn how to get on Prozac, Ritalin, or how to go into the military, or how to go to prison.
It's to institutionalize you.
We have our own documents.
Tell folks where the government re-education camp is located that you attend.
unidentified
Well, I go to school in Breckenridge, Minnesota.
It's a small town in Minnesota, about three hours away from the big Twin Cities, and that's why they think they can get away with this, this unconstitutional indoctrination of the students, this brainwashing.
They know that it's just a perfect opportunity for them to drill the New World Order into our heads.
If they refuse to accredit it, you need to sue them for that.
And I would make a huge deal out of it, and I would take that school over through the First Amendment, and I would, you know, create a student union, which is your God-given right, to basically let them know that you do have value, and that you do not leave your rights at the door, and that you're not going to be taught that you're a slave or a prisoner.
unidentified
Absolutely, because schools are really in place.
Any person that's thinking creatively knows that schools are really in place to keep you from learning about the real issues.
No alternative theories.
When you bring one up, they're just going to go out of their way to shut you up.
How long have you been involved in the fight against the New World Order?
unidentified
I've been involved for about a year and a half now.
Started off with 9-11 Truth.
When I was just your average kid, not involved in any politics, and it wasn't hard for me to see that the lies don't add up, and that the science, it's proven.
Well, the thing that triggered me waking up was when I was in science class, we watched a video on the physics of 9-11, and I noticed that things don't add up.
I researched 9-11, came across films like 9-11, The Road to Tyranny, 9-11, Loose Change.
Specifically you were saying you're not allowed to talk about 9-11 truth there in the prison, I mean the school.
unidentified
Yes, exactly.
You're not allowed to talk about it, and if you do, they'll give you in-school suspensions where you're sitting in a room the whole entire day without contact.
They'll give you detention.
And when I mentioned free speech last year, this video has almost 100,000 hits.
When I mentioned free speech last year, they called the police into the school and they detained me for explaining my rights to them.
They had the police come in and detain me.
And that's where the police state starts in schools.
So you've been given leave from the camp for a few days.
Let me set you up in the next two days to come on for a full hour, because I wasn't aware it was this bad.
I've seen... Well, there was another case of youth getting in trouble in Austin schools for even mentioning 9-11 Truth, and then they threatened to take them to jail, and then actually suspended one young man.
So, I mean, they call the cops on you for this now, huh?
The Republic is being defended by our young people.
I'm going to skip this break for PrisonPlanet.tv.
We're just part of it.
Here we go.
Alright, that's good.
I just, in closing, want to get Aaron, who's producing right now, to call you, Robert, and set you back up for the show for a full hour later this week.
Because I want to hear this whole story, and again, I really appreciate what you're doing.
unidentified
Alright, if it wasn't for sites like InfoWars and We Are Change, and people out there like you, Nathan Bolton, Luke, Rudowsky, everybody out there, the youth wouldn't be waking up.
When we come back, Tommy Pallotta is going to be in studio.
Stay with us.
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So I think it uses Shoutcast to do that.
And my idea for you was that you create your own little application, or one of your listeners creates an application for you that would allow you to stream just your show, because you still have to search through that application to find your show.
And I thought it'd be great to have an InfoWars application, where You could kind of look at the New York Times application as well, that they're able to push articles and stuff like that on it, but also to stream your show.
Um, you know, I think we've got to be really careful.
And one of the main problems is that there's so much disinformation going on.
And, you know, I have hope that technology, or the people who really understand these new technologies, are going to work much faster than anybody trying to destroy that sort of flow of information.
So, you know, the levee's been open, and that information's coming out.
And they can make it harder, but it's hard to stop it completely.
They're trying to eat around the edges with taxes and regulation.
Internet rating, where the government runs you through their servers to put a rating up.
Australia's proposing the same system, but admitting it's Chinese-style censorship.
That's the headline.
So just the filter itself, they're predicting, will slow the web down by 75 to 85 percent, and then you'll go through a government server, which also snoops on everything you do.
Now, they're already doing it, but now they're being public about it.
Yeah, but again, I think that there's always going to be a way around that, and I think the great thing about your show is that I see it in many different ways.
I mean, it's on BitTorrent, it's on YouTube, you know, however much they're trying to stop it, you have redundancy even within your own websites.
So they can try to, you know, stop InfoWars.com, but people are going to take that information, you know, and disseminate it in other ways, which is always good.
I mean, you know, I started with independent film, and now the sort of independent boutiques have all pretty much shut down.
So, again, it's, you know, it comes and goes in waves, I think, that right now it's pretty much all just a studio-type way to make films in America only, but I think more and more I'm looking at the European model of making movies where you're actually calling together financing from multiple sources, multiple countries and things like that.
And I think that everybody's going to have to get really creative in how to finance and distribute movies.
In the past, there was always kind of a one-stop shop.
You get money from one source, you go to one studio, they distribute it, and they pretty much had a cookie-cutter way to get that film out.
Those days are over.
I mean, I think that now you just have to be creative not only in the filmmaking aspect of it, but also in the distribution aspect of it, the financing, and just the marketing of it.
Again, folks, in stores you can get Scanner Darkly.
you can get, you can get You know, films like Waking Life.
I was in a Best Buy last week and happened to see somebody literally there, you know, getting a copy of Scanner Darkling and then right next to it I saw a copy of Waking Life.
So, those both have serious political messages.
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That's what Willie Nelson said on the show when he heard that music.
He was like, he just stopped talking and he went... Tommy Pallotta's with us for another 25 minutes in studio.
I hope you come back through town sooner.
We'll do two or three hours here on air.
If you're a fan of Waking Life, or a fan of Scanner Darkly, or any other films that Tom Issa produced, or some of the other films that he's directed, or if you'd like to talk to him about the media, the alternative media, what it's like making a really independent film of that big of stars like he did with Scanner Darkly, you're welcome to call in.
Phone calls about the new media, the attempts to censor the alternative media, 1-800-259-9231.
And the weird thing, I think, for us and maybe most of the listeners is that we're not really at the same morality level as these people that are doing these crimes.
I mean, the kind of morality that it takes to swindle billions of dollars is kind of foreign to me, and I bet most people.
Um, and how they can go ahead and do these things.
And they're just, they're working on different moral principles, I think.
And so that's a really difficult thing to sort of combat against because it's really hard for me to understand the psychology behind the kinds of crimes that these people are doing.
Yeah, and I mean, the one thing that always kind of shocks me is just the lack of value for human life.
You know, I think you go out in the street, you talk to people, and people have a certain value, an inherent value on life, and these people don't seem to have that.
I mean, projecting forward into the future, what do you see happening with the media itself?
This war between the alternative and the kind of old dinosaurs, because really that is how the people communicate with each other.
That's what sets the cultural parameters.
And I mean, you're an invited guest in Tokyo, Austin, Texas, LA, all over, particularly to speak on the future of the media, because you've been cutting edge in a lot of areas there.
I mean, here on air right now, where do you see things going in the next 5-10 years?
You always hope that people are going to educate themselves more and more.
I mean, unfortunately, right now, I would say that television is one of the main culprits for mind control.
But that doesn't mean that it's inherently evil.
It's just that, for the most part, it's being used in a really negative way.
And the great thing about the internet is that the potential is really great and all these other things like Twitter and ways to communicate and sort of organize people.
I mean, I think after World War II, we won the war, we were the good guys, we beat the bad guys, we can do no wrong, and then the evil just, it was already there, just exploded.
I think we have to come to grips with the fact that we really do have a corrupt evil empire.
I know a lot of stuff is in embryonic phases, so you don't want to Well, right now I'm doing a sort of series of portraits of people that are documentaries.
And one that I'm doing on is on Stephen Prince, who was a friend of Martin Scorsese's.
And Scorsese made a film of him in the 70s.
And I'm kind of visiting him 30 years later.
And another thing that I'm doing is I'm developing a Philip K. Dick short story called Electric Ant.
I'm working with some comic book writers to make a graphic novel out of it.
Yeah, it's all, you know, I'm really interested in science fiction and thrillers for the most part, and I'm always kind of amazed at how a lot of these Uh, big mainstream movies almost have interesting ideas and they're kind of skirting around these things, like Eagle Eye.
I don't know if you saw that, but it's... No, is it good?
No, it's not that good.
But, you know, it kind of deals with surveillance and artificial intelligence and, you know, computers to... So the idea is interesting, just it's not executed well.
I've got a suggestion I'd like to make to both of you, and it's an idea I've had solely to further the cause of exposing the truth of 9-11 and the other truths which are directly or indirectly related to it.
And that is actually a movie, and I would call the movie, perhaps, Alex Jones the movie.
I would call the movie a day in the life of Alex Jones, where he's starting out first frame on the treadmill.
Basically, Alex, it will require perhaps a speaking tour, a global speaking tour, to promote the movie, and you've always been interested in doing that.
I know times are the essence these days, and both of you gentlemen have to allocate your time to the greatest effect, toward exposing the truth that needs to be exposed.
Um, but I wanted to suggest that I thought it would be something you could ponder on in the future, both of you, and Alex knows enough people that are associated with... No, no, no, let's make a movie about a day in the life of Tommy Pilata.
Trying to explain this, look, Discovery Channel, and I'm not going to get into it because they asked me not to say too much, but some of it's been in the news now so I can talk about it, made a $3.5 million film.
Because Discovery was going to go the way of a BBC or an HBO.
They wanted a name for real filmmaking.
So one of the top filmmakers in the country in documentary, he's like the number two guy, he spent three and a half million dollars.
I was one of the main characters.
And then he wouldn't make it a hit piece on me.
And so it was shelved.
And this is the first film he's ever made that just went in the toilet.
I mean, it's on the Discovery, and then the person, the new person they brought in to totally change Discovery, they got sacked over it.
So see, you have to understand, folks, bomb makers own Hollywood.
Bomb makers, you know, private banks, people that run wars.
And so you can even have the president of a company wanting to put you in a movie or TV.
So, I mean, I'm always happy to see... Well, you don't like to whine and bitch, but there was some pressure that was bucked, and you guys didn't go along with it with Scanner, but I guess you don't want to get into that?
Well, I mean, I think... Like they didn't want the cop blowing the guy's head off?
Yeah, I mean, there's... you always get these studio notes when you're making a film, and you always are kind of wondering, are they even watching the same movie that you're making?
And, you know, it's a process, and you have to sort of argue passionately to keep the things in that you want to keep in.
And you have to justify it, which is alright, because most of the time I feel pretty firmly about what I believe, and I'm willing to argue about that with anyone.
Folks, we're playing a YouTube clip of Scanner Darkly up there.
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I've talked to a lot of folks in Hollywood who want to make films like you're making, Tommy.
They just, I guess, don't have the I don't want to say skill, things don't line up for them to ever get, I mean even big names, to get to make something that's truly independent like you've been able to do over and over again.
I mean it's not that it's a, you know, sometimes it's being in the right place at the right time and sometimes it's just being able to go with opportunities, you know, at the time that you see them, you seize those opportunities.
Well, you know, I was just thinking, you know, was there really a choice for a presidential election?
I mean, we had two candidates and, you know, I was in Amsterdam during the elections and I think like 90, 85 or 90 percent of the people were for Obama in Amsterdam.
But I mean, obviously, gay marriage, marriage, all that's a football issue, but then he goes and appoints the big anti-gay guy to give his inauguration.
I mean, it's like, and he appoints the warmongers, and he appoints the, I mean, my whole point is, regardless of where you are on those issues, he's going 180 degrees from his base.
Um, you know, I think economically there's only, it's only going to get much worse.
And I'm sure that you're talking about that all the time here.
And you know, it doesn't, you don't need a crystal ball to see that.
And I think as soon as, but I mean on the flip side, I think once people really start to suffer, then they'll start to become much more proactive and they'll start to educate themselves.
Well I mean I agree, but then he'll act again as a diversion as people realize he betrayed them, they're going to think he's actually running something and blame him when the guy's a puppet.
So in a way I'm even defending Obama, I'm saying we need to depoliticize him.
And, you know, I'm also thinking about making a documentary that sort of goes down to the history of the prison systems and torture and how that relates to sort of modern day.
This is Arnie, and I go to school in Washington, and I just wanted to sympathize with Robert, who you had on earlier.
Yes.
I know how it is.
We have cameras everywhere, and it's insane how, if you think outside of the box, especially with regards to drugs and 9-11, Yeah, they're training you how to be a prisoner.
It would be better for your child to not even be in school.
I've been looking forward to somebody coming out with a basic template, done in the format of a movie, maybe, just for entertainment.
But, basically, to stop Web 2.0, and expose it worldwide and offer us ways of combating it and then translating it into a bunch of different languages, keeping it simple stupid, basically, so that it's easy to translate.