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unidentified		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
		Welcome.
		We've got the, uh, I don't know, four or five million albums sold.
		Hip-hop.
		Spoken word!
		Rap icon Paris joining us coming up in about an hour and a half from now.
		In about 20 minutes in studio we're going to have Webster Griffin Tarpley who's down here with me for an interview for my new film about the economic collapse and Barack Obama being a puppet frontman and what we're going to see come from him and his betrayal of his supporters that we've already seen.
		He's also going to be discussing in studio though particularly what his whole analysis on the Mubai Formerly Bombay attacks in the Financial Center of India.
		And the clear false flag evidence therein.
		So that is coming up in about 20 minutes with Webster Griffin Tarpley.
		And then we have Jeffrey Smith, the expert on GMO foods and crops.
		And just the genocide against humanity and the planet Earth that is going on.
		Dealing with that later in the last hour of the show today.
		The artist Harris, joining us from San Francisco, in studio, Epstein Tarpley, and Jeffrey Smith, coming up on GMO.
		The melamine in the milk, all of it.
		The deadly toxins in the plastics.
		We, of course, have been talking about this for decades, but Scientists said don't use that type of plastic back in the 50s because it would sterilize not just mammals, but amphibians, reptiles, and that's exactly why they put it in the plastic.
		And now it's finally breaking major news, so we'll talk about it.
		Because what's old to us is new to the public.
		The public doesn't believe anything until the mainstream media finally has to admit it.
		So, we'll be discussing that coming up today, trying to get people to consciously become aware of what's happening.
		Myself included, even though I know all this stuff, I still slip up a lot and drink fluoridated water or eat and drink out of that type of plastic that's widely used.
		I still eat some GMO food to my detriment and I'm really trying to focus myself and others on not using cell phones as much, not having them around my children.
		That's radiating your brain.
		Massive studies on that.
		Giving you brain tumors.
		And a lot more, so we'll be discussing that.
		I'm going to blitz through the news in the next segment.
		The Rocky Mountain News is on the verge of going bankrupt if they're not sold, they're saying.
		30-plus major papers, including the Austin American-States, from where I live, around for 150-something years.
		It's on the verge of, well, being sold and in financial trouble.
		And this is a perfect storm of the mainstream media being discredited, the internet, most people getting their news from the web and not the horse and buggy pulp papers, the wood pulp papers.
		And it's also that the economy itself is imploding, and so there's less ad revenue at a time when newspapers, most of them are already hanging on by their fingernails on the cliff over the abyss of bankruptcy and extinction like the great dinosaurs.
		You know, I'm not really happy about the newspapers going bankrupt and being sold and being downsized everywhere, because as bad as they are with corporate propaganda, you still get some local news out of them.
		And some of the multinational conglomerates are actually hailing all of this and cheerleading the fact, praising the fact this is happening, for further consolidation and vertical integration.
		You've got about six families own over 90% of the newspapers in this country, four conglomerates own over 90% of the TV, cable, and film production.
		And you're only going to see a greater consolidation of that as well as the government comes in worldwide, governments worldwide, in unison to restrict the First Amendment on the web.
		So don't hail the death of the newspapers because the death of the net, the free web, is also ongoing.
		It's already begun.
		The websites are PrisonPlanet.com, InfoWars.com, InfoWars.net, JonesReport.com, TruthNews.us.
		We'll be right back with a news blitz and then Webster Griffin-Darby.
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david miller ▲ ● ▼		On September 11th, 2001, along with hundreds of my fellow troops, I went to Ground Zero.
		And we knew what to do.
		Or at least we thought we did.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Truth Rising is a breakthrough 9-11 film that finally gives first responders a platform to tell their story.
unidentified		Whitman, EPA director on the 18th, made a statement.
unidentified		That the air was safe to breathe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This film follows the growing momentum of 9-11 truth as brave souls throughout the world take action against their global masters.
kevin mcpadden ▲ ● ▼		He had his hand over the radio while he was getting a countdown.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is an emergency transmission worldwide.
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		If we don't expose the government-sponsored terror, they're going to commit more acts and bring in martial law.
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		The T-Rex of political talk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Paris joining us coming up at the bottom of the next hour.
		Webster Tarpley in studio coming up in the next segment about the Mumbai situation, Obama, and a lot more.
		The Supreme Court is privately having a hearing amongst themselves today to decide on whether they are going to go forward with a court case dealing with Barack H. Obama.
		Was he really born in Kenya or Hawaii?
		As his mother claims, why won't they release the original copy instead of a receipt?
		Uh, of live birth, so we're going to be watching that as it develops as well.
		In the news today, again as I mentioned, will Supreme Court take on Obama's citizenship?
		The U.S.
		Supreme Court will consider today whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama's U.S.
		citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's election.
		The meeting of justices will coincide with a vigil by the filer supporters in Washington on the steps of the nation's highest court.
		The suit originally sought to stay the election and was filed on behalf of Leo Donfrio against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Michael Wells.
		Legal experts say the appeal has little chance of succeeding despite appearing on the court schedule.
		Legal records show it is only the tip of the iceberg of nationwide efforts seeking to derail Obama's election over accusations that he either was born in the U.S.
		citizen or that he later renounced his citizenship in Indonesia.
		I personally think this is going nowhere.
		The establishment is fully behind Obama.
		Both the Democratic and Republican parties.
		But we will certainly see what happens there.
		Gulf Oil CEO says gas could hit $1 a gallon by next year.
		Gulf Oil CEO.
		Joe Petrosky said on Wednesday that the price of oil could sink to $20 per barrel and there is a chance gasoline prices could drop as low as $1 per gallon by early next year.
		Speaking at the South Shore Chamber of Commerce breakfast, The Brockton native said that after speculators drove oil prices up, there's a chance that the market will overshoot on the way back down, resulting in much lower prices at the pump.
		Only about 30% of oil price increases up to $150 a barrel, five months ago, six months ago, was speculation.
		The rest was dollar devaluation.
		There has been a global currency devaluation.
		In the last six months, not just the dollar being devalued, but all major currencies were devalued.
		The IMF and World Bank honchoed that.
		And so you've had all currencies dropping.
		That's why it's appeared that the dollar has stayed its freefall.
		In reality, again, they are all dropping.
		Milwaukee neighborhoods could print their own money.
		The Chicago Tribune reports two neighborhoods consider printing own currency for exclusive use in local stores.
		And it goes into the fact that the barter system is now being looked at.
		Residents from Milwaukee neighborhoods on River West and Eastside are scheduling to meet to discuss printing their own money.
		The idea is that the local cash could be used in neighborhood stores and businesses, thus encouraging local spending.
		The result, supporters hope, would be a bustling local economy, even as the rest of the nation deals with recession.
		I think that's beautiful, and the feds can't stop that.
		If neighborhoods, and then towns, and then cities, and then regions, and states begin doing this, this was very popular in Europe, still popular in some areas of Europe, very popular in this nation's founding, and before its founding, and has been basically extincted by the foreign banking cartel, the money changers.
		Really important news, Canadian Prime Minister wins suspension of Parliament.
		This is out of Reuters today.
		It's up on Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
		We have a link to it if you want to find it.
		And buried in the article is the key.
		Every time I get up on air and say that Australia, Canada, Scotland, and 20 plus other Commonwealth nations are owned and run by the Queen, Canadians, Australians send me emails and laugh at me or go on the message board at PrisonPlanet.com and say I'm a liar.
		Because they don't even know how their own form of government works.
		Your parliaments are ceremonial.
		And anytime the witch wants to suspend the parliament, she can do that.
		And I've studied the British government.
		Now, in 1215, for a while, there was, of course, some liberty by the middle class.
		And a balancing towards freedom.
		And in the last 400 years, there were some periods where the Parliament in England did have the power.
		Those were times when they seized the king and chopped his head off.
		That happened several times.
		Or imprisoned the king or queen.
		But in the last 200 years, the monarchy has been in full control.
		The Queen owns most of the oil, most of the timber, most of the gold, most of the diamonds, and the natural resources.
		Of course, this is all done illegally through fraud, but they love to advertise that they have no power, that they're a bunch of boobies, a bunch of maroons who can't get anything done, and have to have their noses wiped for them.
		But, if you read this article, The Parliament was moving to remove Stephen Harper, the Canadian Prime Minister.
		And the Queen stepped in, because she likes what he's doing, and has frozen the Parliament.
		And if you read the legalese, it has been dissolved.
		Now she may re-configure the Parliament.
		And I would challenge Canadians that aren't aware of how their government works.
		Everyone serves at the Queen's pleasure.
	If the ceremonial parliament does what she wants, then she stands down.
	She's not just on your money, there's not just crowns on all your highway signs.
	When you're over in England, no matter where you're at in England, routinely in every major town, they will just shut down large parts of the city roads and tell you that it is the Queen's pleasure.
	If she wants to boat up and down the Thames, she will shut it down and make thousands of international ships and millions of dollars free, sometimes for weeks.
	She does what she wants, when she wants.
	Last time I was in England, they shut down large parts of the city and they would announce on loudspeakers and on the tour buses that Her Majesty has chosen to shut down part of the city today.
	That is part of an exercise of power.
	You know, the Queen doesn't want billboards up nationwide in England, so there are no billboards outside the cities.
	It's all about an exercise of power.
	But this is not advertised.
	It's not put out in the media very often, but on the ground floor, they let everybody know.
	The entire British Parliament is spied on by the illegitimate MI5, MI6 that serves under the direction of Her Majesty.
	And that's why the Queen, through the executive powers that are again totally illegitimate, Hitler had total power but it was illegitimate, Has been ordering government ministers arrested under terrorism charges for exposing government corruption.
	So we're seeing tyranny, not just in England, but in the United States and worldwide.
	Here in the United States, the president, the executive acts as a king now.
	And you're hearing them say the governors are now federal officers serving at the pleasure of the president.
	They can put troops, tens of thousands, on the streets.
	They are going to do it.
	But here is Reuters for those that are ignorant.
	Canadian Prime Minister wins suspension of Parliament.
	Suspension of Parliament!
	And she can expel it as well.
	Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper won a rare suspension of Parliament on Thursday.
	Managing to avoid being ousted by opposition party anger over the Minority Conservative Government's economic plans in an attempt to cut off party financing.
	Governor General Michelle Jean.
	Governor General.
	Now that's a... We're under a Governor General under Northcombe that serves at the discretion of the Executive.
	Same thing.
	That's what I keep telling Canadians and others.
	It's that you're governor generals.
	You're in a commonwealth.
	Just like we have the 1776 war here, that started in 1775, when the governor general came in and started removing governors, appointing puppet governors, removing legislatures, putting in puppet legislatures, removing judges and magistrates, putting in puppets.
	This is how imperial rule works.
	Face where you live, face what you're under, and then you can take your countries back.
	But as long as you continue to live in denial, we can't change anything.
	Reuters.
	Governor General Michelle Jean, representative of Queen Elizabeth, Canada's head of state.
unidentified		See?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Queen Elizabeth, Canada's head of state.
		It didn't Harper.
		Agreed to Harper's request to shut down Parliament until January 26th.
		Parliament was reconvened just weeks ago of the October 14th election.
		Harper's request for suspension was unprecedented.
		No Prime Minister had asked for Parliament to be suspended to avoid a confidence vote in the House of Commons.
		But see, that power is always there.
		If the little puppets don't do what they're told, if the ceremonial legislatures and Parliaments and Congress... What happened seven weeks ago?
		Congress did a no vote on giving the bankers unlimited total power to steal all the money they want with no review.
		That was in there.
		We read the bill.
		And so, the banker representative of the Private Bank of England, via the Federal Reserve, a local governorship, the Governor General of the banking elite, Bernanke, went in there with his puppet, Paulson, and said, and Senator Inhofe's on record now, and said, martial law will be declared and we'll just do it without you if you don't do this.
		And they said, okay.
		Under PDD 51.
		Now, again, you're not hearing about this in the news, This is why we're under martial law.
		We're already under martial law.
		The government is illegitimate.
		But they want to fool people with, oh, we got a brown face up there.
		This puppet, he'll fix it.
		It's a bait-and-switch.
		It's a new paint job on the same New World Order machine.
		What a betrayal.
		With so many delusional Obamanoids.
		Obama zombies.
unidentified		Obama!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Minions!
		I've been talking to them.
		They'll walk up to me in restaurants, you know, a waiter or somebody and say, what do you think of Obama?
		And I go, well, he's another puppet.
		Same agenda.
		And he goes, oh, come on, Alex.
		I used to love you.
		Come on.
unidentified		Be positive.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, hey, man, I deal in reality.
		So the Queen of England has openly shown everyone that she runs Canada.
		Okay?
		Got it.
		There it is.
		Reuters.
		They're right back with Webster Griffin Tarbley.
		Stay with me.
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tom brokaw ▲ ● ▼		A day unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
unidentified		The enemy struck America on September 11th.
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brit hume ▲ ● ▼		Some U.S.
brit hume ▲ ● ▼		investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S.
unidentified		I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is Friday, December 5th, 2008.
		For the next 50, well, no more than an hour, we're going to have Webster Tarpley in charge.
		studio with us and we're going to be talking about what really happened with the Mumbai attacks, all the evidence of false flag there with Western intelligence trying to get the two nations fighting with each other and talk about Barack H. Obama and what his presidency is really going to mean to this nation.
		Also with the Supreme Court meeting today to consider further hearings on checking his U.S.
		citizenship and demanding his original birth certificate.
		We'll talk about that as well.
		Webster Tarpley in studio.
		But he was listening out in the green room During the break, when I was covering Canadian Prime Minister Wynne's suspension of Parliament, and we just went live at PrisonPlanet.tv, so I'll recap that for the viewers out there.
		Canadian Prime Minister Wynne's suspension of Parliament, and it says, Governor-General Michelle Jean, the representative of the Queen Elizabeth, Canada's head of state, Agreed to Harper's request to shut down Parliament until January 26th.
		Parliament was reconvened just weeks ago after October 14th election.
		Now, he lost control of the government, became the minority party, but was refusing to allow elections within Parliament to have a new Prime Minister seated.
		That's how Parliamentary systems work.
		Our country was much more similar to this until 1913 with the 17th Amendment, when states' legislators stopped appointing senators.
		That was their trump, with states' rights over total federalism.
		But this is imperium here because she is the head of state, and Canadians and Australians and others in the 20-plus Commonwealth nations always say, oh, well, that's just figurative, that's just ceremonial, her as the head of state.
		No, no, no, no.
		If you read the charters of these commonwealths, it is the parliaments that are ceremonial, and it is the Queen's governorship, or through her governors, that is actually the power.
		So there it is in Reuters, and every time I mention these, Thank you for inviting me.
		It's wonderful to be here.
		Believe me.
		And Webster Tarpley's written books on the British Imperium, written many articles on it in its form of government.
		So in the time we have left in this limited segment, Webster, I would love to, well, first off, welcome you to the studio, but then also give you a chance.
		You bet.
		Give you a chance to break down the article.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Alex.
		Thank you.
		Thank you for inviting me.
		It's wonderful to be here.
		And congratulations to you for everything that you're doing.
		This is the first I've heard of this.
		There was supposed to be a vote of no confidence against Harper by the Parliament.
		Now remember, under the Canadian and indeed British Commonwealth system, the Queen is the head of state of all of these places.
		And it's about 70 countries.
		It's a huge group.
		And in the case of Canada and Australia, we have these Royal Governors General.
		And the Royal Governor General is the guy who's just done this.
		This guy, Governor General Michel Jean.
		So he's the personal representative of the Queen, and you can see that he has more power than the Parliament and the Prime Minister, meaning that we had this agitation in Canada in the 1960s and 70s, saying that the Constitution had to be repatriated, right?
		They wanted to bring the Constitution home to Canada, and it turns out that was not done.
		I would say for people who have trouble with this concept, there are two examples.
		You can see that the Queen actually runs the show.
		One is, in the Canadian NAFTA debate, in other words, to get the North American Free Trade Agreement passed, the Queen named new senators to the Canadian Senate to stack it, to pack it, to make sure that there was a majority.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's right, they're supposedly going to be elected, but as soon as they didn't know the way she wanted, she came in.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And then the other one is maybe even more spectacular.
		In Australia, Gal Whitlam, about 1975, was the Prime Minister of Australia.
		And he said, look, there's an oil crisis.
		I'm going to make direct deals with Arab oil producers, oil for technology.
		Australia will produce technology for them.
		We'll get our oil guaranteed.
		And London and New York said no.
		And at that point, the Governor General of Australia intervened to overthrow Whitlam and impose Malcolm Fraser.
		And it was a complicated thing because the The Australian Parliament immediately voted no confidence in the new puppet, Fraser, and tried to get Whitlam back, and there was a period of about six months of tremendous chaos.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who won that fight?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		The Queen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Again?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Because, see, what the Queen represents, the Queen is not, she's not somebody like Stalin, but she doesn't have all power.
		She represents the oligarchy as a whole.
		In other words, she's the spokesperson.
		She's the doge, if you like, of the dogeressa.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But she does have Stalin-esque.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		She just doesn't want to use the power because then that reveals that these parliaments are really ceremonial, but there's still danger within the ceremonial parliaments because they truly have been voted in, so they hold the true, organic, rightful power and then could rally the people with their bully pulpit to throw out the oligarchy.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right, and the question of rallying the people is the absolutely critical thing, because if you don't rally the people, then the oligarchs are going to run wild, and we see that they're running wild.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		It also shows that the entire Anglo-American world is now descending into a form of chaos, emergency rule, Because they're having to now take the veil off, the velvet glove off the iron fist, and really show people the true machinery.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just like here in the U.S.
		they're announcing, yes, we're going to use regular army against the people.
		Yes, the governors are now puppets of the president.
		Yes, you're living under martial law.
		They're throwing the gauntlet down.
		Webster Tarper, let's finish up with this riveting information when we get back, and then get into a lot more.
		Stay with us, ladies and gentlemen.
		More straight ahead.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		England and 20-plus other Commonwealth nations are truly governed by the Queen as the head of state.
		Her Governor Generals control the bureaucracy, they control the intelligence agencies, they push through all of the attacks on the internet, free speech in Canada.
		It is the Governor General, if you read deeply into the last six months, they're saying, we're only going to let you have a few thousand websites you can visit, they've all got to be certified, We're talking Chinese Communist level censorship or even greater.
		China allows millions of sites to be visited and restricts millions.
		Canada's talking about just a few thousand and it's not being done even by law.
		They're the regulators because again the Governor General controls the commerce.
		And if Parliament doesn't do what they want, they just remove them.
		As they've just done, they suspend them or expel them.
		And that'll be the next move if they don't play ball, as you talked about them winning a fight decades ago in Australia, similarly.
		And so, that's why you see Australia announcing, what, two weeks ago, that they are going to only have a few thousand websites that you can visit.
		Headlines!
		You know, web to have Chinese-style censorship.
		In Australia.
		Google that.
		Hundreds of headlines.
		And the news was saying, this is good.
		Because obviously they're the mainstream media.
		They also want to team up, like for like, with the establishment to restrict the burgeoning, exploding alternative media.
		Now, here in the United States, as Webster was just saying, they're trying to bring in a similar system of total executive power.
		Dictatorial power over the states, over the Congress, threatening them with martial law, North Com, trips on the streets.
		The question is, from the onset of this nation in 1776, that was a rebellion, as I said earlier, against the very same Saxe-Coburg-Gothas, the very same German family that had just been in for two generations by then in England.
		Uh, you know, King George the third removing governors, removing legislators, appointing governor generals, bringing back in this type of system.
		And we had a war over it because the British soldiers were coming to then disarm the people and to put troops on the streets of the 13 colonies.
		So same families, same players.
		Same nations, same groups.
		Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
		And that's why it's so important to study history, and now in Canada.
		She just says, you know what?
		Parliament, you're no longer in authority.
		I'm keeping Stephen Harper in power because he's honchoing the North American Union.
		He's honchoing letting the banks loot Canada and changing the rules.
		He is going along with all that, and Webster Tarpley is just an amazing historian and written papers and books on this subject.
		So Webster, I want to get him to move by, but let's get back into this and flesh it all out because this is so, so vitally important.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say the only adequate answer to what the Queen and her Governor General have done would be a nationwide open-ended general strike, saying bring the Parliament back together and let them vote.
		And we don't accept dictation from London or any place else.
		But as soon as you say that, you see the predicament of the Anglo-American world.
		In none of these countries do we have organizations that would be interested in mass struggle or even capable of conducting a mass struggle.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's due to the propaganda through the media.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's due to the atomization.
		I mean, political parties used to exist.
		They're largely gone.
		They largely exist on television.
		They don't have organizations.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's infiltration.
		It's infiltration of the labor unions, the media.
		Everything has been commandeered.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right, but that's the question now for all of us is we've got to find ways to create new institutions.
		And that means institutions.
		I mean, it means Ultimately, the end of this, you know, offices in cities, right?
		If you had an organization with offices in 500 or 1,000 American cities, let's say, you could mount a protest against the things that Obama is going to be doing.
		I mean, we've got to look ahead now to this period of the 20th of January, the inauguration, till about May 1st.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I want to do that.
		But I want to put bookends on the discussion of the shadow government, roundtable group, governor general, maritime or administrative law system that the British Imperium, the Anglo-American establishment is using.
		Finish up breaking down how this shadow government operates in the commonwealths, how they're trying through executives to set one up here and across Europe again.
		And finish up, because that's key, how they're doing this because they're under attack, they're losing their power, they have gotten into a crisis, and then let's get into Mubai, and then into Obama.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Just in terms of the British system, the British system is a copy of the Venetian system.
		The British monarch is the doge, or in this case the female doge, of the entire oligarchy, and this was copied.
		The French model of a monarchy is a little bit different.
		Something like Louis XIV.
		That's absolutism, and that's a step beyond, although that also has positive features.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the divine right of kings.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, pretty much.
		And that was tried in England, that was tried by James I and Charles I, and as you mentioned before, Charles I got his head cut off back in about 1640.
		And since then, you've had these things, the rise of the Whig Party, the English Whig Party, of the great nobility, who are about equal to the king, and the king or the monarch becomes a spokesperson for that group.
		So, the British model is, the monarch expresses the collective will of the oligarch.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, there have been times... And they only ceded power because of 1215 and then other struggles in 1640, when they found that the middle class, the upper middle class, the gentry, continued to overthrow the monarchy, so the two interbred and combined forces.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, the outcome of all that process, and it's a complicated one, is that by 1688, by the so-called Glorious Revolution, you have the oligarchy in England putting in William of Orange, William and Mary, and that's a Venetian doge system where the oligarchy picks the king, gets rid of one king, gets rid of James II, brings in William and Mary, and from about 1688 to 1832, you've got this perfect oligarchy.
		And it's gotten, you know, they've had some rocky times since.
		The one example that you want to point to, King Edward VII is an example of somebody who really did combine in himself this kind of power, because he had been the Prince of Wales under Queen Victoria.
		So that meant he had about 50 or 60 years where the mother was the queen.
		He called her my eternal mother.
		She never decided to leave the scene.
		So the Prince of Wales, Edward VII, created this unparalleled network, and he created the alliance system that brought on World War I.
		In other words, if you wanted to say one person who did most to cause World War I, that would be King Edward VII, because he created this triple entente, right, to crush Germany between Russia, France, and the British, and even he detached Italy from the German-Austrian coalition.
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webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		And with the British monarchy, you're getting very close to bring him in and also become king of England.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And he was brought in out of Germany.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		And then go against Louis XIV.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here's a question, and I've studied this quite a bit, but you probably know more obviously.
		Was it just that there had been so much interbreeding with the original Normans and the French and others that the British line were having trouble having children?
		Is that why?
		Because they had all those little states in Germany?
		How did the German royal line, which hadn't been dominant previously, end up populating all the major royal thrones by 1750?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say maybe a little bit later.
		A lot of these people are the... Well, the Germans were in control by 1700.
		The nieces and nephews of Queen Victoria.
		That's, again, Edward VII was known as the Uncle of Europe because all of the, you know, the Tsar of Russia was his nephew, the German Kaiser was his
		The big thing is that Queen Victoria had a lot of children and the intermarriage there meant that you have a kind of a merger of many or most of the European royal houses with the British one because the British of course had the, you know, they had naval supremacy, they had financial supremacy, they had kind of a pecking order supremacy.
		I mean the Kaiser Wilhelm, poor guy, Emperor William II of Germany, was obsessed with the idea that Edward VII of England was, you know, much more prestigious and much more You know, he had much greater rank in the world oligarchical universe than he did.
		So, it's basically a united thing and that's what you see today.
		But again, what the Queen is representing here is the decision that comes from the City of London, it comes from the Toronto Financial District, it comes really from Wall Street too because there are a lot of people there who are sort of dual You know, loyalty people are looking to the British as the homeland.
		Also notice that the $700 billion bailout that we fought against and tried to stop.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Which is now $8.4 trillion.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		That was a British model bailout.
		The whole idea from that came from Gordon Brown, Alistair Darling, and Mervyn King.
		He was the big inspiration of that.
		Now we've got a funny situation.
		If you look at Citibank, City Bank got $25 billion, I think, under the first round of the bailout, the Gordon Brown British model bailout, and began to go bankrupt the second time, right?
		So now City Bank had to get a second bailout.
		This one was done under the Swiss model.
		This was done under the bad bank model, where you create this separate bank and put all the toxic derivatives into that one.
		And now they're going to go bankrupt again.
		So what do you do when they go bankrupt for the third time?
		You've tried the British model, it failed.
		You've tried the Swiss model.
		I think it's clear the Citibank is a candidate for Chapter 11 reorganization and wipe out the derivatives.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me digress, then we'll get more into the bailout, the banker takeover, and then moving to Mumbai, because I want to spend time on that, and then Obama coming up the next hour.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Isn't it extremely dangerous, they don't do this a lot, to have the Queen go ahead and come right out in the open and basically show Canadians and the world that these commonwealths are really governed by the shadow government and that their parliaments do serve basically at the pleasure and ceremonial legates?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		It's dangerous and I think the question there was who's going to do something about it?
		Now you have this left-wing thing called the New Democratic Party.
		Are they going to do anything?
		How about it, New Democrats?
		Are you going to fight for some notion of Rule of law?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the question.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Why is the Queen and Harper going after the Liberals?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a combination of two things.
		It's on the one side the idea that they think that nobody will fight.
		Is there a Canadian Trade Union Federation?
		Are there Quebecois?
		How about the Quebecois?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Will the Canadian media tell people what this is, what they're saying?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's unlikely.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		But there might be, again, the challenge is if somebody pulls a coup d'etat, this is a cold coup by the Queen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, it's a coup.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		The only answer to a cold coup of any kind is an open-ended nationwide general strike.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And there should be a million Canadians right now protesting in Ottawa.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		And that should be a general strike.
		In other words, shut it down.
		The model for all this stuff is the Kapp Putsch in Germany in, what, 1920, 1921.
		A group of sort of proto-fascist civil servants and officers took over the government.
		And the answer to that was the Social Democratic Party and the trade unions said, we're shutting it all down.
		Nothing moves.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And Hitler tried that with the Munich Putsch a few years later.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right, that's a second attempt at the Cop Putsch.
		But the Cop Putsch is a case where they actually did seize the government in Berlin and then had to give it up because the ruling elite got scared.
		And they said, oh my God, somebody's fighting.
		We better back off and we'll try again another day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because they understand something that causes random explosions can be dangerous to them.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right, but in this case, it was that they had an organization which we don't have.
		And it was we don't have a Social Democratic Party or anything like it.
		We don't have a trade union.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We don't have a real liberal arm.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's all infiltrated.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Well, we don't have mass organizations.
		That's the biggest thing.
		There's a complete atomization of the U.S.
		population.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's infiltration by the left gatekeepers and by the right gatekeepers into any organization.
		I mean, if we try to have a meeting of 200 people, a provocateur shows up and tries to cause a problem.
		So that gets into the whole other area of the science of dealing with them and throwing them out.
		I mean, I let very few in my office because I've had folks show up randomly, you know, with a videotape and then try to claim we did something to them, you know, then run around.
		There's major COINTELPRO in this town, Webster.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Well, the only way you fight the arrogance of secret intelligence agencies and people who do this is with mass organization, and it's got to start with mass.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's got to be more organizations, too, not just even... You say mass.
		Those are easy to infiltrate with the tools the enemies develop.
		What about a general manifesto of liberty and thousands of groups then joining together spontaneously in what the enemy is most worried about in their own military projections, and that is flash mobs.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Well, uh, a united front.
		In other words, a united front, because right now we don't have such an umbrella organization, so we'd have to, it would only, the only thing we could do right now that would be realistic is to say, let's have a united front.
		I've talked about calling something like Americans against fascism.
		I believe this is an anti-fascist country.
		I think that's the one thing we can still say about the U.S.
		The American people are opposed to fascism.
		And the stuff with Obama, it comes from the crimes of Bush, Cheney, and the neocons.
		A lot of people thought they were voting against the devil they knew.
		Unfortunately, they didn't know the devil they were getting, who is several circles deeper in the inferno than Bush and Cheney.
		He's not the bottom.
		He's not quite the bottom still.
		There's something even worse than Obama coming from the wings.
		But a lot of people thought they were voting against that.
		And of course, a lot of people are voting because they see a depression.
		And they say, well, you know, let's get these reactionary Republicans out of there and let's get a Democrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But meanwhile, the enemy had already seen that people were going to rebel after eight years of this.
		So years ago, they had groomed and prepared this foundation front with all of these Stalin-esque and Lenin-esque cover points.
		When really, he's a corporatist to the core.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right, and he's a Mussolini, and certainly he does have these overtones of Soviet-style totalitarianism, beyond any doubt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the ultimate thing is... They're borrowing from every... I mean, the most horrible pieces from every machine of dehumanization and combining it here.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		It's a cookbook, and that's the cookbook of the CIA people power coup, or color revolution.
		It's the Kiev 2004 cookbook.
		It's the Tiflis, Georgia 2003-2004 cookbook.
		They've tried it someplace else.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They've even tried in north of Israel, in Lebanon, to come in with these color revolutions, but it seems like the color revolutions are blowing up on every front.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but see, that was the Lebanon one is interesting.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Because there they tried to do the Cedars Revolution with the rich Christian Maronites and so forth and they ran right up against, in this case, a real mass organization.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hezbollah!
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		You can say what you want about Hezbollah, right?
		You wouldn't want to endorse everything they do.
		But that is an authentic mass organization and they stopped it cold.
		And they showed that they could put more people into the streets than the hysterical Mass media and the U.S.
		Embassy and all their paid shills.
		So that's a real good example.
		We don't want to found a Hezbollah here, but a mass organization stops them.
		Right now we don't have it.
		So what we've got to do is, during the phase that we're in now, up until January 20th, The main thing, I think, is to educate people, right?
		To denounce these people as they come forward, right?
		Oh, Robert Gates.
		Who's he?
		Well, that's Zbigniew Brzezinski's office boy from 1977 to 1979.
		That's a guy who was up to his neck in the October surprise.
		Up to his neck in Iran conflict.
		He's the founder of Al-Qaeda.
		The founder of Al-Qaeda, Robert Gates, is getting continuity at the Pentagon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's a great doorway into, let's talk about the founder of Al-Qaeda and then dovetail into Mubarak.
		Because, you know, all weekend we're going to be here talking to you about Obama himself for the film.
		But let's cover Mubarak because I don't know your view on that yet, but I bet I can guess.
		We'll be right back.
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		Are we going to do what they say can't be done?
		We've got a long way to go, and a short time to get there.
		I'm East County, I don't plan to run.
		Keep your foot hard on the pedal, some devil mind him brake.
		Let it all hang out, cause we got a run to make.
		The boys are thirsty in Atlanta, and there's beer in Texarkana.
		And we'll bring it back no matter what it takes.
		He's pounding down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, we are back live.
		Here is the cover to Webster and Garfleet's Japanese edition of Obama the Postmodern 2.
		And here is the cover to another version of this.
		Which one is this?
		German?
		This is Deutsch.
		And we've got one of his books sold at Infowars.com.
		He's got two books on this subject.
		Okay, before we leave, we'll plug that Webster.
		Webster, let's continue right now with where we've gotten to with what Al-Qaeda is, how it was created, how the establishment created, radicalized Muslim groups that were already there, but funded them, expanded them to run around the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s.
		This just didn't begin with Brzezinski to menace ...governments that the establishment didn't like, and then after they let the extremist Muslims take over, then the West has a new enemy and recycles that.
		But the point of Robert Gates, the Secretary of Defense that Obama has said he's keeping over, being literally the Brzezinski man at the Al-Qaeda desk with its founding, its organization, in the late 1970s.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		I think Gates sets the stage from a couple of points of view.
		Last Wednesday, I got up in the morning, go outside, get the Washington Post, Gates will stay at the Pentagon.
		Reading this thing in the afternoon, reports coming in, Mumbai terrorism.
		So, the same day that the world learned in the papers that Obama had essentially accepted the dictation of his handlers to keep Gates at the Pentagon, Throw out all this stuff about hope and change, change, no more change.
		Gates stays at the Pentagon.
		Now, Robert Gates, who is this person?
		Robert Gates, first of all, was, as Brzezinski says, from 1977 to 1979-80, when Brzezinski came to the National Security Council of the Jimmy Carter Trilateral Administration every morning, The first person he saw in the morning was Robert Gates, and the last person he saw in the evening when he left was Robert Gates.
		So Robert Gates was his right-hand man, his girl Friday, his office boy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		His gopher, his minion.
		And we see this with these apprentices, with these Sith Lords, just like Kashkari is Paulson's long-term servant and minion.
		Now handing out the 8.4 trill.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So Gates is a clone of Zbigniew Brzezinski.
		They say he's a Republican.
		It just doesn't matter at all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Former CIA director.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get to it.
		His career was sponsored by Zbigniew Brzezinski.
		Now, recently, Gates signaled to all of us what he's going to do.
		And he gave a speech.
		I don't know if you saw this.
		It's the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		With Jessica Matthews.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The real think tank that really makes a lot of policy.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		It's a pretty high-level one.
		It's older.
		Jessica Matthews, of course.
		This is the daughter of Barbara Tuchman.
		This is the daughter of Kuhn Loeb, Warburg, all this stuff.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The attempted Nazi coup in the 30s.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So she's there.
		And Gates is in a mood of nostalgia.
		And he says, hey, Jessica.
		Speaking to a gathering at the Carnegie Endowment, he says, Jessica, do you remember when both of us worked for Zbigniew Brzezinski at the National Security Council?
		And we got this invitation to go to Algiers in Algeria on April 1st, I believe it was, of 1978.
		Because that was the National Day, and there was an opportunity to meet with the Iranian leadership.
		In other words, the Khomeini acts.
		The Khomeini guys.
		The Khomeini Prime Minister, the Khomeini Defense Minister, and the Khomeini Foreign Minister.
		That guy was Yazdi.
		He was the most important of these.
		And he says, Jessica, you remember how Zbigniew gave a speech, and he laid it all out for the Iranians.
		And he said to them in a private meeting, look, Iranians... Stay there.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're getting into right now the real Obama administration, the real players and individuals that he is putting in place and if it is possible it's an even more cold-blooded wicked group of Anglo-American oligarchs.
		But now with left cover, and we were getting into just one person of countless, Robert Gates, that he is bringing in to continue on as Secretary of Defense, meeting with the Comaniacs in 78, right as they're about to be installed there in Iran.
		So let's continue with the founding of Al-Qaeda, and then that will be a perfect segue into Mubai, that just happened in India.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		So Gates is a clone of Brzezinski.
		He was his office boy at the National Security Council 1977-79.
		And then you get Brzezinski coming out with this proposition that Islamic Fundamentalism is the greatest bulwark against Soviet Communism and Soviet Imperialism.
		So Brzezinski plays the Islamic Fundamentalist card with a vengeance.
		Brzezinski is the founder of modern Islamic Fundamentalism.
		He's the one who made these people great.
		We have then the secret meeting and I cover this in in Obama the Postmodern Coup.
		It was actually so hot that there was some some some of the additions around the world say hey wait a minute can you prove this?
		Well in the meantime I can because Gates has come out and said it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So Gates meets- But that's in so many historical records I mean I mean I knew that 15 years ago and I didn't know one- Yeah in general but the specific meeting and here's- The specific meeting, okay.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		...comes to the hostages, because here we have Brzezinski meeting with Yazdi.
		Now they're in power, the Khomeini exercise power.
		They're running Iran.
		The Shah has fled.
		He's in the US at this point.
		So Brzezinski talks to the foreign minister Yazdi, who's an environmentalist wacko.
		He's a crazy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Eugenicist.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		He's a Paul Pot.
		He's a Paul Pot of Iran, is the idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A life-hater.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So, he... they're talking.
		So Brzezinski...
		And this is Gates telling the story.
		So Gates is telling the Carnegie Endowment.
		You know, Brzezinski laid it all out.
		He said, "Look, we don't like Khomeini, but we're going to give you all the weapons that the Shah had ordered." Everything the Shah wanted, we're going to give you.
		We're going to give you all the weapons, right?
		The Hawk missiles, the, uh, you know, every, uh, spare parts for your airplanes.
		Because we have a common enemy.
		It's the Soviets to your north.
		The Soviets are our common enemy, so we're going to arm you.
		So the intent is clear.
		What Gates is trying to do is to say, remember that our basic approach to Iran over decades is to play Iran against the Russians in a war centered on the Caspian Sea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's why we're in the Middle East to begin with.
		I mean, it's not just about weapons contracts or oil.
		It's not so much even about Israel, though that's a part of it.
		It's really about, and this is stated by the Pentagon, the encirclement of Russia.
		the containment of china right world power of which these other things that you mentioned the oil and the israelis are subsets but it's about world domination because when you're dealing with the right that's always good when you have subsets because that gets all the power blocks together when you have them unified uh with gain right which is what bush failed to do which is now what obama will try to do so so that is the nuance We're hearing there's going to be nuance, and that's going to be a more nuanced, more serpentine, Byzantine deployment.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the nuance is instead of you bombing Iran, you pry Iran against the Russians and get rid of both of them that way, rather than ending up bogged down in a war yourself.
		So what Gates says then, Brzezinski tells the Iranians, look, we're going to give you all the weapons you want.
		And they say, fine, give us the Shah.
		And Brzezinski gets all huffy and says, no, we can't give you the Shah, because that would have been a tremendous political suicide for Carter.
		So out of this meeting, then, comes the idea of doing what?
		Let's get some hostages taken.
		This is not the part that Gates will tell you.
		Gates will not admit to this part.
		But the whole business with the hostages in Iran was to say, we want the Comaniacs to take the U.S. embassy personnel as hostages, because with that, the whole U.S. bureaucracy has an excuse, a cover story.
		If anybody says, why are you shipping weapons to Iran?
		They could say, we're doing it to save the lives of these poor hostages.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we know they did give them the armaments.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		And they did.
		And that's Iran-Contra.
		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, we got a break again.
		We're going to come back and have plenty of time in the long segment.
		Then let's get into what happened in Mumbai.
		Different place, same story.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Webster, let's get right back into how the Islamofascists, as the neocons like to call them, were actually put into power by Zbigniew Brzezinski and, of course, Secretary of Defense Gates at the time, who was the man
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Handling Iran-Contra, and this is a historical fact, and you bring this up to conservatives, and I mean, I had a Special Forces guy, Black Ops guy, who's now a lawyer, you know, with the Terrorism Center, and he's saying we've got to have basically World War III, because the Iranians are going to nuke us and kill us, and oh my God, the Islamo-fascists, when it's a fact that there were already, you know, these extremist Muslims, and they were energized by the West, so continue.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		So the basic idea is that Brzezinski, Gates, and Carter, and Cyrus Vance, trilaterals all, overthrew the Shah.
		Not only did they overthrow the Shah, but they insisted on bringing in Khomeini.
		Not a general's coup, not this guy Bakhtiar who was around, but it had to be Khomeini.
		Because Islamic fundamentalism was the great bulwark against Soviet communism.
		So, after this April 1978 meeting in Algiers with Brzezinski and Yazdi, There was agreement that the U.S.
		is going to continue to deliver weapons, and then there's a side agreement between Brzezinski and Yazdi that nobody talks about, I believe, in which they say, all right, we're going to have a taking of hostages.
		And there's a lot of stuff, and I go through it, and I got a part on the Carter administration in this book.
		Now, the October surprise was then the freeing of the hostages, right?
		And the trick was to try to make sure that the hostages were not freed under Carter before November 1980, because that would have gotten Carter re-elected, or by the... And then as soon as Reagan's elected, they release him.
		Right.
		There were then hearings.
		This guy, Gary Sick, you may remember him.
		Gary Sick from the State Department or wherever he was.
		He promoted these hearings about the October Surprise.
		And back in my book, George Bush, The Unauthorized Biography, 1992, I read about the fact that there were lots of reports that George Bush, the elder, personally flew to Paris one night in a private jet to meet with some Iranians and then come back.
		We know that Kissinger was reported to be negotiating with Iranians and others.
		Dick, whatever his name was, the other guy in the Reagan National Security Council, the thing that Barbara Honiger has written about.
		But now, when those hearings started, the Soviet government, Moscow, sent a whole bunch of information to the Senate committee, actually the House committee with Lee Hamilton, our dear friend Lee Hamilton, who's such a good investigator, as we know from 9-11.
		And it said, look, here's all the information about Robert Gates up to his neck.
		In Iran-Contra, or what was then going to be called Iran-Contra, and above all, the October Surprise.
		So this guy is dirty.
		Now, the other dimension on him is, as he writes in his own memoirs, and this I read about in 9-11 Synthetic Terror Made in USA, Gates wrote his memoirs and he said, we considered creating an Arab Legion Of fighters from all the Arab countries to go into Afghanistan, which is not Arab but Muslim, and fight the Soviets.
		But we decided not to do it.
		Yeah.
		Bunk, you did decide to do it, and it's called Al-Qaeda.
		So Robert Gates is fighting his own...
		Illegitimate child, we might say.
		Robert Gates at the Pentagon is directing the worldwide struggle against Al-Qaeda, which he founded.
		And when he was named back in 2006, I put out a short release about this saying, this guy should not be the head of the Pentagon because he's the founder of al-Qaeda.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's expand on that.
		They're not fighting al-Qaeda.
		As we know, five years ago, I reported in Cy Hirsch three and a half years ago.
		And then last year, the White House at WhiteHouse.gov puts out a press release saying, we are funding pro-democracy forces.
		Here are the four groups in eastern Iraq into Iran, and they are these Wahhabist groups.
		And there was one little Kurd group tacked on.
		And then it turned out the guy commanding the largest group was the number three listed by the FBI, number three in al-Qaeda.
		And they're staging terror attacks all over Iran.
		And Iran is now suing the United States for blowing up mosques, schools, police stations.
		And then Bush, I remember last year with Mohammed Karzai in the Rose Garden said, we need to go into Iran because Iran is funding Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Karzai, even though he's this puppet, unicoil, you know, narcotics trafficker, he says, excuse me Mr. President, this was on TV overseas, this was like saying that, you know, Spider-Man really lives or that Santa Claus is real.
		He said, Iran is Shiite.
		And they're actually helping us fight the Wahhabis, which are Sunni, and we're friends with Iran.
		And Bush said, no, that's not true.
		Iran is Al-Qaeda.
		And we saw many other people say this.
		So, of course, Bush knows that's not the case.
		They're talking to the public like they're complete morons.
		And so Al-Qaeda clearly is just this catch-all for Muslim groups they don't control.
		But then when they have real terror attacks at stage, let's now get into Mumbai.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Well, we know Obama, first of all, is the greatest packy basher of all time.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		In other words, Obama is the guy who ran for president saying, I'm going to bomb the hell out of Pakistan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then magically the crisis appears.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		And the crisis appears.
		Now, let me stress again, I do not believe there's going to be an attack on Iran.
		No.
		Because, not that I can see.
		I'll be very surprised, OK?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But Israel says they may go in.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		I think this is a lot of bluster, and so there's a negotiation going on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But is Iran still part of this, or are they broken off from the neocons?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		You look at... It's not the neocons.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I know it's the... I know it's the liberal schools.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Brzezinski is the guy.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand, it's just... The difference is that... It's the Harvard PhD, but I'm not... The Harvard Boutique.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's that office, but what I'm saying is... I'm saying, did they break off during the neocon time?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did they break off before?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		There's been a period of bad relations, okay?
		And, you know, there's mass politics and other things that go into this, but right now, Obama ran on a Brzezinski platform, which is to say, I'm gonna bomb and destroy Pakistan, and I'm gonna negotiate with Iran.
		What are you gonna negotiate with Iran?
		You're gonna negotiate the terms by which Iran becomes a cat's paw for the U.S.
		in the Caspian Sea against the enemy to the north.
		And that's, of course, it's still Russia.
		Bust up the Baku-Caspian Sea oil thing.
		Get an Iranian fleet in the Caspian Sea.
		An Iranian fleet with nuclear weapons.
		If you look at Brzezinski's track record, his track record is delivering very advanced military hardware.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Why did the West help deliver the components, England and the US, to Iran?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because that was geopolitics then, and it's geopolitics now.
		This geo-strategic, as he likes to say.
		Now, if you look at what Brzezinski writes, he goes as far as he can.
		He says, once we normalize relations between the US and Iran, Iran could resume its usual role of being a positive factor in regional stability.
		Now, there used to be this thing called CENTO.
		Remember the Central Treaty Organization?
		I think it was Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan.
		It fell apart, really, in the 60s.
		It fell apart during the Vietnam War.
		But they'd like to get back to this.
		The idea would be, play Iran against the Russians.
		Now, moving to Pakistan, this is a totally different story.
		The whole business in Afghanistan is now being run for one purpose and one purpose only.
		Break up Pakistan.
		Destroy it.
		With Iran, you want to negotiate.
		You'd like to have a different government, but for the moment, it's going to be a puppet.
		Ultimately, they're scheduled to be carved up into six or seven parts as well.
		But the front burner, let's say, the hot topic is Pakistan.
		Now, why Pakistan?
		Because it's a Chinese ally.
		It has a border with China.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And China needs the pipelines that come through it, and China has said in an Indian-Pakistan conflict, they are now siding, they said two days ago, with Pakistan.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and this is a long-term thing.
		Remember the Sino-Soviet split?
		India went with the Russians, but Pakistan went most decidedly with the Chinese, because they have a common border.
		If you look at Pakistan, it goes from the Arabian Sea and it joins with China above India.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Then you've got Nepal and all that.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but the main thing is that there's a common border between Pakistan and China and there's this port, Gwadar.
		You've got to get rid of the old map of the Persian Gulf and get a really big Brzezinski-style map.
		Gwadar is this deep water port at the Arabian Sea.
		So it's southwest Pakistan, not so far from Iran.
		But above all, the Straits of Hormuz are there.
		So the idea with the Chinese is if they could get tankers coming from Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, from those tanker terminals, coming out of the Straits of Hormuz, they could build a pipeline that would go up Pakistan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's a pipeline.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		It's not there yet, but it could be built.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But they need that.
		Now let's stop.
		That's their only avenue except for Russia.
		But Russia doesn't have big terminals near there.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		And it's landlocked.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Therefore, you get away from the...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you've also got the Himalayas, so they can't get it from Russia.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can maybe go around it, but the main thing is the Anglo-American fleets, the Anglo-American naval domination of the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea, you want to work around that.
		And if you're China and you make Pakistan into your energy corridor, you can do two things.
		You can have a pipeline that goes directly from Iran to Pakistan to China.
		There you have your guaranteed oil supply with no Anglo-American air fleet.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then you can develop the railways, cities, and then have China dominate the region.
		Now let's stop right there because we're almost out of time, Webster.
		We have a little bit left in this segment and a five-minute segment.
		Now, how does the Mumbai-Bombay situation play into all of this, and what is your analysis of what really happened there?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		First of all, basically it's coming as if on cue, right?
		It's just when they need it.
		Remember, there's an Indian-U.S.
		nuclear accord that was approved in October in the Hurley-Burley and Brouhaha presidential campaign.
		We might have missed the fact that India has now become the spear point of the U.S., the British, and the Israelis in Eurasia.
		It's what the British used to call a continental dagger.
		India is a continental dagger.
		It's 1.2 billion pieces of cannon fodder from the point of view of the US the British and the Israelis so the idea is to play them against China play them against Russia play them against Pakistan play them to to bust up any possibility of Eurasian coalition coalition so the other side of it is this port of Gwadar That has become operational this year.
		And they can begin, they could build a pipeline up there that would go straight into China.
		It would cut about 25% of the cost and would save them about $12,000 a month.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I understand.
		I understand why it's happening.
		But what, I mean, looking at the attacks... Let's look at who we have.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Let's look at the attacks.
		You basically got five or six indications, right?
		First thing is, anything happening in the Indian subcontinent, the British are always the prime suspect.
		Always look for the old colonial power.
		The British were there for 200, 250 years.
		Anything in India, Pakistan, look to the British.
		What do we find?
		The initial reports were that they were British citizens.
		They were Pakistani origin.
		British citizens were some of the killers.
		Those were early reports that then somehow disappeared.
		So what do we got there?
		Brixton Mosque?
		Finsbury Mosque, maybe?
		They have an operation up in Leeds, in Yorkshire.
		They can recruit Pakistanis.
		They get them out of Her Majesty's prisons.
		They can brainwash them.
		They can send them over.
		That's number one.
		Secondly, the Israelis.
		Israel and India have this tremendously developed special relationship.
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		Well, I'm not the kind that can send you to the house.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, we've got Jeffrey R. Smith joining us for an hour and a half after Paris joins us for about 45 minutes.
unidentified		Nothing less than a nine.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Coming up in the next segment.
		So I'm going to bring Tarpley back at the last 30 minutes of the show because he's already going to be here recording with Genesis in another room, his Sunday show.
		And Webster, tell folks when that is on here on the GCN Network.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		This is Radio and it's available of course on demand like all the shows are but for me it's a whole week.
		It's a weekly show.
		I tape it on Friday afternoon and it comes on Saturday afternoon two o'clock eastern so one o'clock Central.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Folks can hear that.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		On demand.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, in a little bit of time we have Leverett bringing back in on the Mubai attacks because it's so important.
		They say they're going into Pakistan.
		They say there's going to be a crisis there.
		And then on cue, it starts.
		And you were talking about the Israeli situation.
		And this could be a reverse false flag.
		It could be a setup.
		But they were wearing the large Hindu sect Zionist wristbands.
		They had LSD, cocaine, classic mind control.
		You have the intelligence chief who had just caught them months ago, the Indians.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		He busted a... Harkari.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		They killed him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		Well, let's get into that, because the evidence, there's hundreds of pieces.
		Only terrorism chiefs that had exposed the Indian government were staging terror attacks.
		They all died within minutes.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So, basically, the British, we've done.
		The Israelis, General Mizrahi, the head of the Israeli Armed Forces, Ground Forces, goes to the disputed area of Kashmir.
		That's a big affront to the Muslim Pakistani side of it, right?
		The whole Kashmir issue is something that we should go through.
		It's basically India is occupying Islamic populations.
		The UN resolutions on Kashmir is that they're supposed to be free elections.
		Who's blocking the free elections is India, not Pakistan.
		So, the Israelis are very big.
		You could also say, look at the ineptitude, look at the stupidity of the Indian Special Forces.
		They were trained by the Israelis and now they're screwing it all up.
		That went on for 65 hours!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They stand down and don't shoot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Five of the terrorism chiefs and deputies who'd all criticize the government, they are the ones that only magically get triple-tapped apiece.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Impossible.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		But now, concerning this, the US, let's not forget the US, in these so-called federally administered tribal areas, in other words, the northwest frontier, the northwest area of Pakistan that's along the Afghan border, The CIA, in addition to flying these predator drones, they also have stations.
		I mean, they have strong points, right?
		They have centers of operations among the federally administered tribal areas, and we can assume that they're busily recruiting patsies, fanatics, crazies, mercenaries, hooligans, whatever, to also become terrorists.
		One of the things the Pakistanis ought to do is to kick the CIA out of those federally administered tribal areas, not let them in there anymore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, in the few minutes we've got left.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Two more.
		The Hindus, the RSS, okay?
		There's this thing.
		The RSS is a Hindu extremist racist organization with strong fascist overtones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They killed Gandhi.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in effect.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		They have been, they're the descendants of the killers of Gandhi, exactly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because he wouldn't kill Muslims.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right, because he was not in favor of religious war.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		So here we have the religious war party, and sure enough the US and the British are backing them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they're the ones tying in with Israel.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		That would be, as far as I can see, the ones with this blue, sorry, pink, the pink armband that the one guy was wearing.
		But see, the RSS has been killing people all over India for years and years.
		You never hear about them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's RSS infiltrators that keep doing false flags and killing the Muslims.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Look, you have a terrorist swamp, then you have the RSS provides the ideology for that.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Then you have the BJP, which is the governing party, and they are now bidding fair to take over the government again in the backlash to what has just gone on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they give the conduit, or the tunnel, for the people to be brought in, but putting an NCAP on this is because it's about them, we're going to come back.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		NCAP is the RAW.
		R-A-W.
		You heard about the ISI, right?
		Everybody knows the ISI.
		How about the RAW?
		The Research and Analysis Wing of Indian Intelligence.
		the research and analysis wing of Indian intelligence.
		They are up in Afghanistan recruiting crazies from Afghanistan to bring them down and have them engage in terrorism against Pakistan.
		So the Indians have a real dirty aspect.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's the same group setting off bombings the last few months trying to overthrow the Pakistani government.
		And they're admittedly Western-backed.
		And the Pakistani government has been saying the West is staging this as a pretext.
		And that was the final point, to bring pressure in on Pakistan or even overthrow them.
		So when you come back in a few hours, we will break down that.
		But in the last minute we have to talk about that.
		What is the point of all this?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		The point of it is to play India against Pakistan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bring in a radical government.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bring in a radical war government into India.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		And if you play India against Pakistan, you destroy both.
		In other words, the Indian military would inflict grievous damage on Pakistan.
		But, India is a country with 1 billion Hindus, but there are 200 million Muslims.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That'll cause tribal warfare around the time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So it's just like Iran-Iraq being played off against each other, both sides being funded by the U.S.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		We're on the march.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The empire's on the run.
		60 million and 20 million.
		It's not 60 million and 20 million.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		And nuclear weapons on both sides.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's hundreds of millions against a billion plus.
unidentified		And nukes on both sides, which in the case of the Middle East, you absolutely...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then that's the Brookings Institution and others coming out and ran a few months ago saying we need a world war, something on that scale.
		Okay, Webster, thank you.
		We'll talk to you in a few hours back in studio.
unidentified		We're on the march.
		The empire's on the run.
		Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
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brit hume ▲ ● ▼		Some U.S.
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		Hard Truth Soldiers back again.
		P-Dawg, I evolve.
		I drag pigs to the slaughterhouse, but I never eat hog.
		At the Fed, in the World Bank, seesaw.
		We keep y'all in deep awe, cause we rough.
		Like uncooked crack by the government.
		Hit like a bass rock.
		Listen to the bass knock.
		Free em in, Tina, by any means they walk.
		Let's see who ready to squeeze.
		Giving power to the people and take back America.
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		As it showers.
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		We got medicine, we've never been.
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		Death to the mini-men, checks to the immigrants.
		We still feeling it, we still killing it.
		We still slaughtering hosts, feed the innocent.
		Read the imprint, guerrilla funk was birthed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that is the new single, Don't Stop the Movement.
		And Paris, quite a bio, you can check out his website.
		We've got a link to it up on InfoWars.com.
		This is from Gorillafunk.com, his official bio.
		Paris Hills from San Francisco Bay Area was catapulted onto the national hip-hop scene in 1990 with his hit single on the album, The Devil Made Me Do It, after earning a degree in economics from the University of California at Davis, originally released on Tommy Boy Records.
		His first single from the album, Break the Grip of Shame, was banned by MTV.
		And it goes on from there.
		He's worked with some of the biggest and most successful hip-hop groups out there.
		Sonic Jihad was released with strong sales and critical acclaim.
		Again, in 2003, he returned with a vengeance.
		It goes on and on.
		I tried to read this whole bio.
		Thanks for having me again, Alex Jones.
		But, Paris, it's great to have you back.
		For some of my listeners who may not know who you are, why don't you tell folks a little bit about yourself?
		You're also, of course, a 9-11 truther.
		Way back in 2002, you went public, or maybe even earlier, I saw some posts by you day one dealing with that.
		So you've definitely got a lot of courage, and I enjoy your music.
		So thanks for joining us again.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me again.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones, how you doing, man?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, busy.
		Super busy.
		I bet you're busy as well.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I am.
		I've got to congratulate you on the birth of your child.
		I know that I haven't spoken with you since.
		So, good to talk to you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hey, it's great to talk to you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But for those that don't know who you are, I mean, Breakdown, you what, sold three, four million albums, worked on a lot of other huge albums?
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've basically been making counter-establishment hip-hop that challenges the system.
		It's life-affirming music that I've been making For the entirety of my career.
		I started in 1990 and have been on a lot of different labels and am now completely independent.
		And well, completely independent, but distributed by Universal, ironically enough, because they have noticed the fact that there are people out here who hunger for this kind of material.
		You know, I have produced Public Enemy, Dead Prez, and The Coup, and a lot of other groups that are out there that represent these same sentiments, and I'm still doing it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go back to 2001 and then look at what happened there and your views and take on that, and then let's accelerate forward to what's happening today geopolitically, what's happening in different sectors of the world, and your take on somebody like Barack H. Obama.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Well, in 2001, my current company and my last record, which was Sonic Jihad, which I guess got on your radar a while ago, Occurred as a result of our response to 9-11.
		And, you know, after doing a lot of independent research and actually viewing some of your films and soaking up a lot of the information that was available online, I came to the conclusion, as have you and most of the people listening to you, that 9-11 was a self-inflicted wound, as you like to put it.
		And seeing the response, seeing the erosion of our civil liberties, seeing the shredding of the Bill of Rights, seeing the increase in intolerance, seeing the increase in Racism and racist wars around the world led me to want to become more involved in making the protest statements and to endorsing material that reflects that viewpoint.
		So, Guerrilla Funk was formed and my first record, Signing Jihad, came out.
		It was pretty much assailed by a lot of the mainstream press outlets, MSNBC, Fox News, the whole thing.
		And it was embraced by people who recognized truth.
		And they did well enough to get on Universal's radar to allow me to be able to sign other artists to kind of rally.
		The people around that, you know, felt the same, who were also disenfranchised and unavailable, you know, unable to come out through traditional outlets.
		And, you know, I've seen the whole thing kind of, you know, in some respects things have gotten worse, in some respects things have gotten better, at least from the outside looking in.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, before we get into what's happening currently, just I mean, I have to say, I mean, I like some hip-hop, I like some rap, you know, I grew up listening to a lot of it in Dallas, but even then, I only liked certain people and others that sounded terrible.
		I mean, it's the same with every genre.
		Classical, country, rock and roll, but particularly, I don't know...
		of really anybody else who when I listen to the music it sounds a hundred percent in my mind like I can't imagine it sounding any better with the beat your voice you know bringing in that the choir like you do with what would you do I mean just all of it so I mean I am really a fan just of your sound and then why it's a hundred percent then the message is Especially in some of those songs you did in that album after 9-11.
		That's why I say I think it's really the anthem for 9-11.
		I mean, I like Immortal Technique and a lot of other folks, and he's great and has a really great sound as well.
		I just don't think that it's consistently as powerful as yours.
		I mean, hey, I'm not trying to two-side.
		I'm just saying... No, no, no, no, no.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there are really only two real sides to choose.
		That's what I like.
		The difference between me and Immortal Technique, those aren't the choices, you know.
		But I appreciate that, man, really.
		I do.
		I just always said that I was going to make music that I wouldn't be ashamed of in a few years.
		years.
		That's really kind of my litmus test.
		Like when I'm doing things, I want to treat each project as though I'll never get the chance to do it again, which is, you know, that's pretty legitimate.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's how life really works.
		That's how life really works.
		Now, shifting gears, everything is nuanced in the workplace.
		Like, I just had Webster Tarpley in here with all the documents.
		The United States funded the Iranians to come to power, gave them the weapons.
		That's on record.
		Gates and Brzezinski admit it.
		Now, they're the guys behind Obama.
		And whereas I want to, I mean, I hate George Bush, call for his arrest, you know, terrorist.
		And and and but you know people see this two-dimensional like well you're against Bush you must be for Obama or if I'm against Obama I must be for McCain when I'm against McCain I'm saying no they're all bought and paid for but then I look at who will be able to carry the new world order agenda further who will neutralize the left to stand down and say Yes to war, yes to a police state, and then who will actually pacify the public so the abuse of black people, minorities, everybody can continue.
		And nine, ten months ago I said, oh I like Obama.
		He says he'll get us out of the war, he won't spy on the American people without warrants, and then now he's gone back.
		I mean, I'm just setting the table here, and then I want you to take a lot of time going over this.
		And so now, with horror, I'm seeing this.
		Now, whereas I like seeing people happy and relations being good, and black folks I see everywhere, really, I mean, you can see a visual, you know, feeling good, hey, white people aren't all racist, they elected a black guy.
		Whereas I wish that was a good, beautiful thing, I know that in the end, it's going to be a huge betrayal, and it's going to be designed to actually make everybody, in a way, even blame black people, in the end, when Barack Obama is a New World Order frontman.
		Now, if you disagree, that's fine.
		But, I mean, breakdown, I mean, I've laid that out.
		It's so nuanced.
		And the public only sees it, you know, in shades of black and white, pun intended.
		Where do you see this going?
		You know, just like in Mumbai, CIA, Mossad, MI6 are publicly funding the radical Hindus, the radical Muslims, bringing them in so that they can get a radical group in control of India to then attack Pakistan.
		And I mean, right there, see, that's nuanced.
		I'm not against the Hindus.
		I'm not against the Muslims.
		I'm not against any... I want them to see how, through tribal control, they're being manipulated.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm hoping that's not the case.
		I do.
		I really do.
		I hope that's not the case.
		The one thing that causes me to have great pause about Obama is the fact that the establishment immediately embraced him when he came out.
		That's the one thing that, you know, so this whole idea of him being an agent of change and some kind of a freedom fighter for social justice is pretty much scratched off the list for me.
		In terms of him being perhaps You know, a lesser of many evils.
		That's probably how I look at him at this point.
		As a black man, of course, it does make me feel good to see me being reflected in a position of power.
		I'm not gonna lie about that.
		But by the same token, you know, as a somebody that has progressive values, man, you know, I am disheartened by some of the things that I've seen and some of the things that I've heard him say.
		A lot of what he said during the campaign, I wanted to chalk up to him needing to say.
		To be able to get elected, but now, you know, this whole idea of reaching across the aisle and, you know, I'm somebody who has pretty hard left-leaning positions, man, and I'm actually out for blood.
		I don't want to reconcile with anybody.
		You know, I don't want to see everything swept under the rug and everything be forgiven and, you know, us try to kind of forge this new path and this new direction with people who I am, you know, ardently opposed to.
		I want to see things happen the right way for change.
		And whether or not he's going to be the one to do it, we still don't know yet.
		But I do know that I'm not in a reconciling mood.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've seen the establishment say that Obama will bring the people back to trusting the government.
		And then look at who he's appointing.
		It's all the same people.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Now, as far as the people trusting the government, I don't know if that will ever happen again.
		I think that...
		First of all, this economy has to turn around, if it is to turn around, before anybody pays attention to what anybody in the government has to say.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that's it, Paris.
		This is a designed... and I want you to speak to this.
		I have all the documents, and I know you're a well-read guy, and you've got an economics degree there.
		But, I mean, what's happening is, the people under Clinton, and the Republicans support it, it's all one group, they changed the Glass-Steagall Act, they made the laws where the banks could do this, they have designed this to implode markets, So the establishment can then come in, cut off liquidity to everybody else, have the real economy implode, and the banks over-capitalize on the quote bailout with now $8.4 trillion as of December 5, 2008, and then buy up what's left of the real economy.
		And Obama is the biggest cheerleader for that, and when the bailout wasn't about to happen, he got up there and got on his bully pulpit and said, we need this.
		So that's what I'm saying, Paris.
paris ▲ ● ▼		So what are your feelings about this auto bailout then?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I see it as a distraction because $25 billion, $40 billion, compared to $8.4 trillion, according to Bloomberg and AP, in seven weeks.
		You know, the whole debate about should we bail the autos out, that's a diversion.
		But I'm against socialism.
		But if we're going to devalue the currency and turn up the printing presses, I just say give every American $50,000.
		That's basically what this $8.4 Interesting.
unidentified		Well, I know they just came out with the jobs report today.
paris ▲ ● ▼		So, something over half a million jobs lost today, and that's almost two million jobs lost since January of this year.
paris ▲ ● ▼		So, it's definitely rough out there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And it's accelerating.
		So, I mean, specifically, what I'm saying here is, in studying the world, what I do is I just go to what the truth is.
		And I go to what the real policy reports of the elite say.
		And then I go diametrically opposed to them.
		And so, and so my job's easy.
		Well, let's bring a woman.
		I'm just against their agenda because I know their agenda is bad for humanity.
		Here's another one.
		I'm not against the tens of millions of people by Chase Manhattan City Bank displaced in Mexico, driven off their ancestral lands through phony environmental movements using the left.
		to force them into Mexico City, then into the United States.
		I don't blame them wanting a better life.
		I am against them being abused.
		I've gone out and protested out at the FEMA camp north of Austin where they keep them without due process.
		But at the same time, I understand the globalist plan is to dissolve borders, to drive down wages.
		So, Paris, shouldn't I be totally against something that is the cornerstone of the big banks against the United States?
		See how that's nuanced?
paris ▲ ● ▼		Which would be what?
paris ▲ ● ▼		Well, all I'm stating... immigration.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I mean, I know you bring that up, and that you're certainly against the oppression of these people, but at the same time, I'm going to the next level, and I know you can grasp all this.
		You're probably smarter than I am.
		I've been more successful in business than I am, so I'm asking you the question.
		If the New World Order wants open borders, And then actually wants to stir Americans up with third world populations they bring in to divide and conquer.
		What should I do?
		Should I go along with what the big foundations and the money wants?
paris ▲ ● ▼		To divide and conquer?
		I just know that it's easy to scapegoat a population.
		And I know that this plays directly into the hands of America's racist legacy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
paris ▲ ● ▼		You know, so just in terms of looking at a particular group of people and, you know, kind of galvanizing this Jodah Plummer public against him, I'm opposed to that now, in terms of what the end result is going to be, like this dissolution of borders and all that.
		I don't know if I even look into it that far.
		You know, from where I'm sitting, I see a group of people who want a better life, who are pretty much the end result of America's foreign policy.
		economically depriving people.
		And so when you see people who want to come here to kind of, from what they think anyway, 'cause first of all, I don't necessarily know that America gives you a better life.
		Let me say that out the gate, because I've traveled a bunch of other places where things seem to be a lot easier and a lot more people.
		And they're not, at least right now, they're not in any kind of danger of being invaded by America.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, let me throw this in.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Paris, Paris, let me throw this in.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Talk about nuance.
		That's what I'm saying.
		As you know, everything is five or six.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that anything occurs on the global stage by chance.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is what I'm saying.
		Exactly.
		But I want your take on this.
		I want your take on this.
		And we'll come back and talk about it after the break.
		And we're going to plug your new record and the website and the rest of it, which is great stuff.
		Exactly.
		They are announcing they're going to put 20,000 U.S.
		troops on the streets of America.
		The Army document says it's going to be against the American people for civil insurrection.
		But then they put out public press releases that it's going to be stopping the illegal aliens on the border.
		But I know, because they already did that two years ago, that that stage, and they're not even going to do that.
		So you're right.
		It's nuanced.
		They are using it as a stereotype catch-all false galvanization to get people to rally around Accepting a police state.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I guess so.
		So what are you thinking that there's going to be some kind of a national event that really brings this immigration debate to the surface?
		Because, honestly, that's kind of been squashed lately.
		I haven't heard that a lot.
		I know that people become more intolerant as economic times get harder.
		I didn't know that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, we'll get your take on this when we get back.
		I may not have fully made my point.
		My point is, yes, They work both sides.
		We'll be right back.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Up on PrisonPlanet.com right now is a big story posted last night by Paul Watson dealing with the new attorney general, his deputy AG at the time, covering up the murder of an Oklahoma City bombing, a person they thought was a government agent that they were trying to get rid of.
		They killed people involved with the trial, exposing it.
		That Jesse Trinidou story is up on PrisonPlanet.com.
		I could do a whole show on that and we are next week with Jesse Trinidou again for two hours.
		Huge information.
		We have the government documents that the federal government did carry out that bombing.
		Paris, the point I was trying to make is that yes, Uh, the, the global architects do all these evil things in the name of America and oppress populations, then they go in with Ford Foundation money and others, and we have the Carnegie documents and all of it on this, congressional hearings, and then they foment rebellion and, and, and then basically, you know, the average white guy, you know, uh, you know, taking his You know, two-year-old for a walk down the street gets the blame as the evil New World Order mastermind.
		And, you know, just like, you know, black guys get blamed for supposedly being murderers because people think O.J.
		did something.
		You know, it's this lowest common denominator.
		And yes, they're going to use the huge social crises of 30 million people in this country, you know, who will work for almost nothing, you know, because of what was done to Mexico by our own government, by the globalists.
		They then come in here and the government then uses that, the name of going after them, to actually oppress the entire population.
		That was the point I was trying to make.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, well, I got you.
		In that regard, I got you, man.
		As a rule of thumb, I take a contrarian stance when it comes to what the government has to say to, you know, when I'm told something in a particular way, I choose to look at it the other way too, just based on the history.
		You know, based on the history of oppression, based on the policies and how they've affected people over time.
		So, yeah, I know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, there's a lot going on.
		We've got about 30 minutes left with you.
		And instead of myself sitting here guiding the interview, what do you want to get into now, Paris?
paris ▲ ● ▼		I look to come on your show and have you guide the interview.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh absolutely, absolutely.
		What I'm saying is, I've got a million questions, but is there anything really eating at you right now?
		Something you want to tell millions of people?
paris ▲ ● ▼		for nothing that you haven't heard over and over and over again.
		You know, I'm always just, I feel good to be in the presence of people who feel the same for a change, you know, Ordinarily, when I do interviews, I come on and there's a pretty strong chance that they'll be adversarial.
		And to know that I can be a part of a community where people do question what the government has to say, where people Look at the events that have taken place on the day of 9-11 and everything that's occurred since 9-11 and can digest that and know exactly what's happening.
		I mean, it feels good to be a part of that community, really.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, absolutely.
		We all are together in our fight for liberty.
		And speaking of that, we're about to come back and start the next hour.
		You know, as being what I would call a black leader, not just, you know, a leader of folks that want freedom, but particularly a black leader.
		I mean, here's an example.
		I see on the New York Daily News that they're grabbing black children, the CPS is, and testing pesticide on them until they die.
		And then I ask, why aren't black leaders talking about that?
paris ▲ ● ▼		I don't think anybody knows about that.
paris ▲ ● ▼		That's my first time hearing of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So there you go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The problem is, is that people don't know about it.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's just, it's not, it's disinformation.
		There's a lot of disinformation out there, but there's also just a lack of information.
		You know, a lot of people don't know where to turn and most people do get their news.
		I mean, you know, most people do get their information, you know, wrong as it often is from TV.
		Nobody reads, you know, that.
		I mean, it wouldn't be so easy to pull the wool over America's eyes if people read more.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What is it, 9% of the American people read one book a year?
paris ▲ ● ▼		Is that it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Twilight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's unbelievable.
		The website is GorillaFunk.com.
		My website's InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
		Check out a lot of great videos and books.
		Let's talk about some of the films you're producing, Parris, because you're branching out into just all sorts of areas.
		Let's talk about some of the things you're working on.
		We'll get back in 70 seconds.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The website, again, is GorillaFunk.com.
		He is Paris, I don't know, three, four million.
		How many records?
		I know it's more all the time.
		How many records have you, uh, gotten out there to the people, Paris?
paris ▲ ● ▼		Uh, four million.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Just about four million, exactly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so now it's four million.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Since the last time I had you on the show.
		Yeah, you're also branching out into filmmaking and, and, and producing films and distributing films.
		Uh, quite a, uh, eclectic, uh, group of, uh, films, uh, last time I checked.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's the final frontier for me, is to branch out of just doing music alone and start doing films and putting out messages in the visual medium.
		The first project is called Sounds Like a Revolution, and it'll be out third quarter of next year.
		It's a film about musicians who We want to make a difference and kind of detail the consequences that we've all faced as a result of our beliefs in this post 9-11 environment where dissent is stifled and the media outlets that we have come to rely upon self-censor.
		It features me and Michael Franti and Antiflag and the Dixie Chicks are in it.
		Henry Rollins.
		The Coup, I believe, is going to be narrated by Erykah Badu.
		It's a pretty involved undertaking.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So that's one of them.
		You know, another one is called Nation Building, which is kind of along the same lines, but it's more hip hop centric.
		And, you know, there are some other films that are kind of already in stages, various stages of completion.
		I don't really want to start films from the beginning.
		I know when you make your films, you pretty much do them from start to end.
		I'm looking really to buy into existing films.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I understand.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's great.
paris ▲ ● ▼		People kind of haven't, you know, they can't, you know, finish them because of economics.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's shift gears.
		Now, should prospective filmmakers run stuff by us?
		Should they email you at Gorilla Funk or send you a trailer?
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yep, please do.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Please do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you're going to be putting these out?
unidentified		Go ahead.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Well, because ordinarily, you know, people who are making films, most people who are independent filmmakers, you know, have money issues.
		So if they can send their films in whatever stage of completion that they're in to us, You know, I review it and see if we can fit it into what we're doing over here.
		And of course, the message has to be consistent.
		And, you know, my film deal is actually with Vivendi through Universal.
		And the record side is through Fontana Universal.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow, that is exciting.
		I know we got close to doing that and I had the baby, my wife had the baby the last 8 months and I just couldn't give your great offer a proper consideration so I apologize but hopefully in the future we can do something.
		Now, Paris, we're about to break and come back in a long segment, so there won't be all these breaks in front of you, but briefly, get into the new single and when are new records coming out and how folks get that?
paris ▲ ● ▼		The new single is called Don't Stop the Movement.
		The video, believe it or not, just got added to MTV, which was kind of a surprise, because the video is pretty much kind of a very visual interpretation of the people rising up and overthrowing the government.
		The album is available everywhere online for sure.
		I have partners with Best Buy and Virgin Music and all the traditional brick and mortar outlets, but in order to ensure that you can find it, it's just best to order it online and you can go anywhere.
		The other thing that's interesting about this project in particular is that there is a scholarship and housing Awesome!
		But this isn't your daddy's Willy Wonka.
		a golden ticket type of a contest where there are three chances to win $10,000 towards higher education or housing for anybody that happens to find one of these tickets in the CD.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Awesome.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		But it's only available in the CD.
		You can't participate by buying it online.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But this isn't your daddy's Willy Wonka.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks, we are back live.
		That's an oldie but a goodie from seven plus years ago.
		Check it out at GorillaFunk.com.
		Jeffrey Smith coming up in about 25 minutes up.
		Paris, continuing our discussion about activism and media, you know, Universal approaching you, getting your stuff out that way, more and more alternative, powerful, anti-establishment information is being allowed out because the old media, as you know, the establishment media is having trouble selling their tired old propaganda, their products, and it's kind of, if you can't beat them, Join them.
		I'm seeing this everywhere, where even, you know, I am accepted, not on big national TV shows, but on mainline radio, international media, by liberal conservative journals.
		They're having to admit that everything I talked about, you talked about, and others talked about, is coming true.
		Can you speak to that?
		The fact that this struggle of awakening, I really see a chance of us turning the corner here.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I agree with you.
		I think that You know, at least in my experience, it's amazing.
		I went on Hannity and Combs and I was being broadcast from a satellite feed in San Francisco because I'm from the Bay Area out here in California.
		And the people that worked at Fox, new to music and were warm, man, and really embraced the message.
		And they were like, man, we can't stand working here, which was not what I expected.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've had CNN and Fox people behind the scenes tell me the same thing.
		I've had hosts call me at the office after I was on a few times and saying, we got record ratings the last two days you were on, but you are now banned.
		This wasn't from programming, this was from the business office, from the board, said do not put him back on.
		So exactly, we've got the people on the inside, more than anybody know, and it's all staged.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and they, you know, and people just appreciate it when somebody comes out, you know, like you or me, comes out and says what needs to be said, and can Put out material that people can relate to, man, that reflects their real life existence.
		I think that the success that I've had is that I've really kind of taken pains to endear myself to the public so that people understand that I really do care, you know?
		I mean, this is not like a fast track to riches doing what we do, by any stretch of the imagination.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you've got incredible talent and had plenty of chances to sell out, and I'm not saying I've got some great talent, but I've been approached, I mean, I've been approached many times.
paris ▲ ● ▼		But, um, you know, this is, this is like, uh, this is taking the hard road, you know, and, uh, and sticking with it and remaining consistent, man.
paris ▲ ● ▼		That's just kind of been my focus.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Does that make it that much sweeter to be as successful as you are over and over again, uh, taking the, uh, taking the road, being self-made, creating your own distribution system, everything you did?
paris ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
		I mean, being able to do what I want to do kind of when I want to do it and, you know, to work with the people that I want to work with, because I'm at the stage of my career now where I don't want to do just anything, obviously.
		I think the lowest point in my career was producing a Tony Braxton record.
		I don't know if you know who that is.
		But it was like I was going through the motions, man.
		And the music was like something you would hear in the dentist's office.
		And to me, music is only really engaging when it moves you emotionally.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, your music certainly moves me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I see it more as poetry with the music in the background, really.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Speaking of the way the world's changing, you know, I witnessed urban warfare trips and the Marines and Army training to take over our cities, arrest our citizens, confiscate our guns.
		And that was really the wake-up call for me in 96-97 when I physically saw this.
		And I'd always heard the stories, but then found out it was true.
		And now they're announcing, yeah, troops on the streets of America.
		The governors won't be in charge.
		The executive branch is above Congress.
		Congress was threatened seven weeks ago with martial law if they didn't go along with the Banker Takeover Bill.
unidentified		Hmm.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And, I mean, I think one reason people are waking up now is because it is late in the game, and the establishment is really, I mean, the Queen of England just abolished the parliament in Canada because they were about to throw her people out and said, I am the head of state, and then pulled out her director general.
		That's in Reuters, who really is the dictator.
		And so they're even having to admit now that Commonwealth nations never got out from under the Queen.
		That's in Reuters today.
unidentified		Interesting.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can you speak specifically just to the expanding police state?
paris ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know that, for example, the Patriot Act is not going to be repealed.
		I know that a lot of people thought that that was going to be the case when Obama came into power and there was going to be like this large cash infusion in the social programs and, you know, an immediate pull out of Iraq and that kind of stuff.
		It's unrealistic to think that that would be the case.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They just said tribes for three more years are going to be there.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they just said yesterday, three more years of the main force of 160,000, and then a permanent force of 50,000, basically forever.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I think the way that we can frame this moving forward is to look at this economic downturn, which is probably the worst in this country's history.
paris ▲ ● ▼		It will be as being the 2008-2009 9-11.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Financial 9-11, I agree.
paris ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		And so when you look at it that way, and you look at, you know, you say a traumatized mind is a susceptible mind, like you can mold public perception and have the public be behind whatever you want them to be behind when they're traumatized.
		You can look at this economic violence being visited on the American people as having the same effect as 9-11.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, I don't even blame Obama.
		He is a complete and total puppet.
		I'm sorry to tell folks, just like every other president since Kennedy.
		But he is going to end up, they're not going to be able to blame all this on Bush, even though he's a puppet as well.
		That's what I'm saying, Paris.
		They're going to set him up.
		Uh, the people really believe he's gonna bring change and change things.
		Uh, it's like Bill Hicks said, you know, basically take the president and show him the Sabruder film and then say any questions.
		And so that's my whole point is I want people to get it out of their heads that there's gonna be any change other than the fact that this guy can string a sentence together and Bush couldn't and this guy is eloquent and, you know, and has a nice smile.
		Uh, yeah, I mean, he's...
		So it's not as insulting to have Obama because, you know, he is slick and smart compared to Bush up there.
		It's kind of insulting to have this, you know, monkey up there every day.
		So with Obama, it's going to be a lot better.
		But that's it in packaging.
		I mean, I guess they're going to kind of dress themselves up when they rape us instead of, you know, doing it with just no clothes on.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're both pessimists.
		So, you know, I can't even say that I'm cautiously optimistic anymore.
		I'm just a pessimist about the whole thing.
		You know, hopefully I'll be proven wrong, but chances are I won't be and we'll both still be doing this a few years from now.
		You know, when I can do party music and you can make comedies, then we'll all be cool.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Man, you know, actually, I would love to make weird documentaries, you know, about subcultures and things.
		And I'd love to make, you know, things about nature.
		I'd love to make documentaries about whales.
		I like whales.
		I like, you know, Hoosian, they're running the shows looking at me weird.
		Did you know that there's a whale called the Bowhead whale that lives about 250 years?
paris ▲ ● ▼		I do now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm looking at my guy and they're looking at me like I'm a weirdo.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, man.
paris ▲ ● ▼		That's not weird, man.
		You think I hate to say this because it's hella cliche, but you think outside the box.
		And I do too, man.
		You know, there's very little in mainstream media that speaks to me.
		You know, and that's why I stay in my lane doing what I do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the point I was making is that I have all these other thoughts and all these other dreams.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's other things, but you feel like that, you know, you don't want to waste time with any of that when there are more urgent things to discuss.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, that's the point, is actually I'm sick of this, but the fire in my belly just drives me to do it because I have no future if I don't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		My family has no future, and so I'm kind of mad like my life's been stolen, in a way.
paris ▲ ● ▼		It will, yeah.
		And then that happens once you become enlightened.
		That's the truth.
		It's difficult to sit by and just, you know, take what's spoon-fed to you when you know better.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's the point that I've been making for quite a while now.
paris ▲ ● ▼		When you know better, man, and none of this is acceptable.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I would love to take three vacations a year and spend more time with my family.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I want to.
		And I can't disengage because there's always a hundred more stories, a hundred more crimes, a thousand more.
		It just, it's driving me nuts.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Somebody got to keep the torch burning.
		So there it is.
		You have this network set up, man.
		Don't waste it.
		That's how I look at it.
		I'm now finally in the driver's seat to be able to reach people globally doing what I do in a way that is a little bit more comfortable than it's been in the past because I have this relationship with Universal where they manufacture and they distribute everything.
		So, you know, I treat it very seriously and I treat each project as though, you know, I won't, as though it's my last.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, people always look at folks that have been somewhat successful, and it's like, even though we're doing good work, sometimes they get mad at us, and I just say to them, hey, I want to see you do well, get in there, do the decades of hard work.
		But so many people come into this, the enlightenment movement, or whatever you want to call it, and they want instant success.
		Does life work that way, usually, Parrish?
paris ▲ ● ▼		Well, I usually got to work for it, like anything else.
		But I do know this, I do know that, You know, there are a lot of hip-hop artists and musical personalities that I want to work with whose abilities I really respect, but more often than not, what they have to say doesn't jive with what I'm doing, you know?
		It's like, you can't make messages that are degrading to people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And again, let's talk about that in the final segment.
		It's come out, as you know, in documents and programs that the establishment wants to put out this degrading message, not just in hip-hop or rap, but in rock and roll and everything.
		And that's been done by design.
		The CIA has been involved in that.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow, an hour has gone by fast. .
		Last five minutes with Paris.
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		I'd share with about three people, and that way you can give yourself a gift of a PrisonPlanet.tv membership, burn the films to disk, give them to people, get them out to folks.
		That's how we're really affecting change, and the people are ready to hear the truth now, like they've never been before, because other patriots before us, myself and many others, warned people, laid the groundwork, hit the barbed wire for everybody else in this fight, in this war, and so now the public is very receptive.
		You know, going into break, I didn't write a note.
		What was the point I said I was going to ask you when we came back?
		It was something really important.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
		As soon as you leave, it'll pop back in my head, but I had some really important question to ask you, but hell, it doesn't matter.
		I'm busy running around behind the scenes, lining up a bunch of other stuff.
		In closing, I mean, there's so much going on out there.
		Where do you see things going in the future with so many people waking up?
paris ▲ ● ▼		You know, who knows?
		Who knows?
		Man, I can only hope that it doesn't it doesn't get violent and bloody and out of control.
		You know, I know that that's probably that's probably an optimistic statement right there.
		I know that things have to change.
		You know, I know that all the wealth can't be maintained by, you know, such a small portion of the population.
		I know that things can't remain as unequal as they've been.
		I know that times are harder than they've ever been, and I know that people are going through it, man.
		And, you know, there are all of these artificial things in place to keep people in line, to keep sheep, like sheep, sheeple in line, you know?
		You know, kind of lockstep with what the government has going on and what the agenda is.
		And, you know, people are waking up.
		The only real way to make them wake up, though, is by doing what we do, by hitting them with Information and entertainment sources that provide information that goes against the grain of what they see on TV all day long.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I remember what it was.
		It was a great segue here at the end.
		Government wanting to push MTV in the past, choosing what it wanted to push.
		Oh, right.
		I talk to so many people in the music industry who say, You know, something that is unpopular, but anti-human, anti-liberty, anti-woman-man.
		The establishment will push that while trying to block things that are socially responsible.
paris ▲ ● ▼		But we've seen that happen in hip-hop alone.
		I mean, if I just take hip-hop, I mean, because that's obviously my genre and that's what I started in.
		When I first started in the early 90s, the groups were, you know, me and Public Enemy and Boogie Down Productions, X-Klan, and all of these groups that reflected this Afrocentric sensibility that wanted to see the community advance.
		Right?
		It wasn't an anti-white sensibility.
		It was something that we really wanted to see people do better overall.
		And those types of messages have been squashed for the most part.
		And, you know, the rise of gangster rap, you know, we see a direct correlation between the messages and the outcomes in our community.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Which just prepares the black males to go into the prison system.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		Exactly.
		Exactly.
		You know, that's big business, you know.
		In the same way that there are college towns, and I don't have to tell you or your listeners this, but in the same way that there are college towns, there are towns where the entire, you know, economy is driven by prisons.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's a completely different story.
		There you go.
		They arrested 56 black people in one month, none of them with drugs, with no evidence, because the only business in that town was a prison, and they put the black people in the town in the prison.
paris ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it turned out it was all a setup.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It turned out none of them were using drugs.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Yep.
paris ▲ ● ▼		But when you see, you know, like, you see the same thing with any corporate enterprise.
		Now that's really large.
		Like there are certain towns that I've been to, for example, in, uh, I have in-laws in North Carolina and Walmart is the main employer in some of these small cities, you know, Boardsville, Statesville, North Carolina, those kinds of spots, you know, um, where the Walmart is huge, man, you might see a Walmart that's, you know, hundreds of thousands of square feet.
		And they have Walmart social events and, you know, calendar where basically your entire life is dictated by this corporation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who has taken over the market with Chinese slave goods?
paris ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, mom and pop enterprise, man, depending on what it is, it's a hard sell right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's why it's important to support alternative music, film, farmers markets, anything alternative, anything that's made by a smaller organization or group is so important.
		And Paris, I want to have you back sooner than a year.
		I'm glad that we've dropped out of contact.
		I've been busy.
		You've been busy.
		I'm glad that you emailed us about your new album.
		I'm glad to have you back on.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it.
		Thank you.
		Please visit GorillaFunk.com.
		The new album is Acid Reflex.
		It's available in stores now.
		Thank you, Alex.
		I appreciate everything, man.
		As usual.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Acid Reflux in storage now.
		Paris, we will talk to you soon and have you back up soon if you'll do it.
paris ▲ ● ▼		That'll work, man.
paris ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jeffrey R. Smith, one of the premier experts in the world, author, documentary, filmmaker, researcher, testifies to governments all over the planet about GMO foods, toxins in food, the melamine in the milk, the plastic estrogen mimicking ingredients.
		Enderken Disruptors will be joining us in about three minutes, but I wanted to hold Paris over because I had him on for an hour and hardly plugged the new album, Acid Reflex.
		Again, great social commentary, very thought-provoking.
		He may not even agree with it all, but the point is, is that it's not establishment propaganda milquetoast.
		And he also has a golden ticket prize in the new album out in stores everywhere.
		You can also hear it online, but the contest is there for scholarships, so I briefly wanted to have Parris finish up telling folks about that.
		Parris?
paris ▲ ● ▼		Yes, what it is, and I appreciate it Alex, it's three chances to win $10,000 towards higher education or housing.
		Those are the specific stipulations with the prize, and it's only available in CD form, in the physical CD that you can buy at retail, or through Amazon or Best Buy.
		Amazon and Best Buy are your best bets, even more so than Gorilla Funk, because we run out of them pretty quickly, I'm sure.
		I'm sure I'm out of them now, as a matter of fact, as a result of being on your show.
		But those prizes are transferable, too.
		That's the other thing.
		So if you're not interested in going to college, but you know a college age teen that's thinking about it then, you know, you can give them the gift.
		But it's three chances to win $10,000 and in this environment, man, everybody I'm sure needs a leg up, you know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		By the way, I'm watching the video for the first time.
		I'm a big fan.
		I've just been so busy.
		I hadn't seen it yet of Acid Reflux.
		We're playing a little clip of it on PrisonPlanet.tv on screen right now and it looks really good and this looks like The director, or the animator, of the guy that did the big video for some other folks right before the election in 2006, is this the same director of the Eminem video?
paris ▲ ● ▼		No, no, you're thinking about Ian Denava and Guerrilla News Network.
		No, this is not them, although I have worked with them in the past, and I narrated that Aftermath 9-11 movie of theirs.
		No, this is a guy named Corey Shaw.
		From a company called Bill Destroyer down in L.A.
		does world-class work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this video is... Oh, this blows away the Eminem video.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm watching this, and it is awesome.
paris ▲ ● ▼		And it's painfully expensive.
		So, everybody go buy a copy of Acid Reflex ASAP.
		I appreciate it, man.
		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm honored to be here.
		Listen, since some of this came out on air, since you mentioned it, I'm really honored that you were offered to put me on the universal label.
		And I was just looking at the contracts.
		They were a great deal.
		Best deal I've ever been offered.
		And I just didn't even, I was trying to finish something, having a new baby.
		I know it didn't matter.
		But I wanted to, since I couldn't talk to you behind the scenes, I wanted to apologize for not getting on the ball with that.
		But I'll work on that, Paris.
		And I've been honored to talk to you.
		Everybody get acid reflex.
		And we'll talk to you soon, my friend.
paris ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate it, man.
		Thank you.
		I'm honored to be here.
		Take care.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		There he goes, ladies and gentlemen.
		Yeah, great guy.
		Look, I trust Paris, but I'm a little bit scared of Universal.
		And that's just one of the many offers I've had.
		He brought it up earlier, so I went ahead and talked about it.
		I mean, I probably had 60, 70 offers in the last 10 years.
		I mean, I have been in the office, in the big glistening building in L.A., offered a radio show to be as big as Rush Limbaugh, with the contract in front of me.
		But in that case I had to be controlled what I said and I said no with the Paris thing whatever I wanted say whatever I wanted and I knew it would put it really out there in a big way and I'd try some other distributions or another outfit who's a lot smaller and that was alright.
		It's just that then I can't put them out for free.
		I can't say make copies.
		I can't leave it up on Google Video.
		And so I, you know, turned down tens of millions of dollars.
		That's just how it works here, folks.
		And then I get screamed at and yelled at for trying to sell a few thousand copies myself to be able to maybe make a film.
		And the films do lose money.
		I pay for stuff with advertising and I pay for it, you know, a few other ways.
		And I got a small inheritance a few years ago.
		I really want to know.
		Side issue, but it doesn't burn me.
		It doesn't get in my craw.
		I feel sorry for people that have no idea how many deals I've turned down and what I've turned down.
		You have no idea.
		I mean, most people say they wouldn't sell out, and I'm not saying that would be that evident with Paris.
		It's just that... I can't... Even if something might have some of that involved, or might lead down a road, because to me, the fact that I've put out 21 films, the fact that I've made 20 myself, and I've made 19 and produced two, no, I've made 20 and produced two, the fact that they reach Hundreds of millions online for free that we can track.
		That is what I want instead of money.
		That's what I want.
		And the death threats, everything that comes with it.
		And that would have all pretty much ended if I did that.
		So it wasn't selling out that I refused because whatever I wanted I could say.
		It was that it would be a sellout because the video wouldn't be available everywhere.
		But that's Universal's end.
		I shouldn't even be getting into it, but he brought it up on air, so hats out of the bag on that.
		I'm actually a pretty darn good guy, is the whole point here, folks.
		I mean, I don't know anybody else, even in this movement.
		I won't take questionable advertising.
		I won't be involved in any of this stuff.
		Because it doesn't mean anything to me.
		Who I am is what is valuable.
		What I stand for, what I believe in.
		I mean, I know they've approached alternative news people, alternative health people, wanting to buy them out.
		Uh, and I know a lot of people out there have said no.
		Because, you know, they're not going to be involved in poisoning children, but a lot of people will sell out, and that's why we've seen a lot of these things happen.
		Uh, but that's a side issue.
		They're separately.
		Paris is somebody who never sold out and has made it big repeatedly.
		All right, I apologize to Jeffrey R. Smith for making him hold five minutes.
		We're really honored to have him, and I've got his bio here, but I hate to make folks talk about themselves, but it's better if you just describe yourself and introduce yourself.
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jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Alec.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Great to be here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Good to have you here.
		You know, I never ask you this.
		Have you ever been approached to sell out?
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		No, I haven't.
		I've often thought if Monsanto's willing to give me millions of dollars to stop talking about them, I could just funnel that into anti-GMO activities and maybe I'd sell out.
		But no, I have never been asked to sell out in any form.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's when you know the New World Order's real, buddy, when they come at you over and over again.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Um...
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		So far, so far, I protected myself.
		In fact, I knew that other people that had written books before I published Seeds of Deception, some friends of mine published a book against de Grey and they were about to publish it and three days before it came off the printer, a threatening letter from Monsanto's attorney forced the publisher to stop the presses and cancel the publication.
		So they were eventually able to print it somewhere else, but I decided to turn down an offer to buy a publisher to publish my book so that I could publish it myself, because I knew that they couldn't stop me.
		So you also didn't let them... Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's why I haven't gone with big film production companies that have wanted to bring in professional teams, all those folks and do TV series and a bunch of other stuff folks don't know about, because exactly by signing on to that, then it brings other people into control, and then you could lose control.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's a lot of people that have been wanting to option my first book, See the Deception, for a film, but I'm very cautious about, you know, losing the control because they might just flip it so that it may make Monsanto out to be benevolent.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that happened to Jesse Ventura.
		I think he got like three million bucks to do a year TV show on MSNBC.
		It was a three-year contract, a couple million a year.
		I'm going from memory here, what he told me in the car.
		He's also talked about it here on Airsum.
		But when he was here visiting us, and they didn't tell him You know, he had golden handcuffs in there, and they said right after he signed it, it's like, alright, now you're out of the game for the war we're about to have.
		And they just basically bought his contract out, and he sat there for three years.
		And then that's why he finally now was able to go public in the last year and a half, because that contract was up, saying he could do no other media.
		So, I mean, they do it.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
		What I do is I try, like you, getting information out there on YouTube and on my website.
		In fact, just four weeks ago, I got an email from India saying that they found that the genetically engineered Bt cotton is causing massive deaths and reproductive failures in buffalo and cows.
		And that hundreds or thousands of people in the region who are touching the cotton that's genetically engineered to produce this toxic pesticide are developing allergic reactions like itching.
		So what I did is I said to them, please, let's document this.
		Let's get it videotaped.
		And so we were able to raise money to get an investigative team in there with a video camera and two veterinarians and a reporter and a project leader so that that will be able to be put out for everyone to see what's really happening there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Now, let's go back and I'm really going to try to give you the floor.
		So, you're going to be running here.
		What you think is most important, the melamine, the estrogen mimicking endocrine disruptors in the plastics, the GMO, the India situation.
		I mean, because you really are one of the leading experts.
		Tell folks who you are.
		Then about some of your books and videos we have available at InfoWars.com and also on your own site.
		Give folks that.
		And then you've got the floor, sir, whatever you think is most important to tell people because this is a public service announcement is what this is in the truest sense so people have a chance to know what's in their food and their water and ways to try to protect themselves.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Great.
		Well, my expertise is really on the genetically engineered foods and crops.
		That's where you take genes from one species and you force them into the DNA of other species, causing massive collateral damage, in fact, in the DNA and lots of unpredicted side effects.
		Now, these were originally introduced in our food supply widely in 1996.
		Now it's because the first Bush administration I believe that genetically engineered food, largely produced from the Monsanto company, would increase U.S.
		exports.
		And what happened was they told the FDA to promote the biotechnology industry.
		The FDA then created a new position for Michael Taylor, Monsanto's former attorney and later Monsanto's vice president, to be in charge of policy.
		The policy came out with a blatant lie claiming that the agency wasn't aware of any information showing that GMOs were significantly different.
		GMOs means genetically modified organisms.
		As a result of that lie, they said no safety studies are necessary.
		Come on, Santo and others don't even have to tell the FDA in order to put these foods on the market.
		Well, we know now seven years after that policy came out in 1999, 44,000 internal secret memos from the FDA were made public because of a lawsuit.
		It turns out the overwhelming consensus among the FDA's own scientists were, in fact, that genetically engineered foods could create allergies, toxins, new diseases, and nutritional problems, that it was different from normal foods, and in fact the scientists were appalled that it was going to be put on the market quickly and had urged their superiors, and in fact the scientists were appalled that it was going to be put on the market quickly and Now, I'll footnote this by saying Michael Taylor is now on the Obama transition team overseeing agriculture,
		And that concerns me, although hopefully he's reformed.
		But what's happened since then, GMOs have been out on the market since 1996, there's now eight commercialized genetically engineered food crops, we'll go over them in a minute, and what I did is in my second book, Genetic Roulette, I documented, with the help of more than 30 scientists, all of the known health risks of GMOs.
		And we've linked GMOs to thousands of toxic and allergic reactions in humans, thousands of sick, sterile, and dead livestock, and damage to virtually every organ and every system studied in animals.
		And that came out last year, but last month two government studies came out, which I blogged about on my Huffington Post blog, and it turns out an Austrian government commission study showed that when parent mice were fed genetically engineered corn, which is currently approved on our diet, That it had a reduction in the number of offspring and in the health of the offspring, as judged by the weight of the offspring.
		So it caused a level of infertility and damage in the next generation.
		And the Italian government commissioned a study, which also came out last month, showing that the corn creates an immune response, suggesting that it might create allergies or inflammatory responses or immune responses in humans.
		So, we continue to pile on information showing that genetically engineered foods are unsafe.
		Now, I realize I didn't really talk about myself.
		Now I can talk about myself in the context of my work.
		I've been working on genetically engineered foods for about a dozen years.
		I worked at a GMO detection laboratory.
		I was the Vice President of Marketing.
		I ran for U.S.
		Congress to raise the awareness of the issue.
		I published Seeds of Deception and Genetic Roulette.
		I have a film out, which is available online for free, called Your Milk on Drugs, Just Say No.
		Another one called Hidden Dangers in Kids Meals.
		And I've been traveling to about 30 countries, counseling senior political leaders, speaking to the media and the public about the dangers.
		And more recently, my Institute for Responsible Technology has put together what's called the Campaign for Healthier Eating in America.
		It's a campaign designed to achieve the consumer rejection tipping point of genetically engineered foods in the United States, and we think we can do this before the end of 2009.
		Now, a tipping point is something where we turn the use of the genetically engineered ingredients into a marketing liability, forcing food companies to take it out of their products or face reduced sale.
		Now, this happened with bovine growth hormone, genetically modified drug, inserted into cows to increase milk supply.
		We had a kind of a tipping point against RBGH by consumers because of the obvious health dangers, which I'll tell you about in a minute.
		And that occurred about two and a half years ago.
		And since then, more and more dairies and retail stores and chains have taken out of their products.
		The most recent one to take it out was Subway.
		They announced it two weeks ago.
		Walmart earlier this year.
		Starbucks the end of last year.
		Kroger in February.
		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Even Borden's is now.
		I mean, you can't hardly find the growth hormone milk now.
		So this is one area where we're having massive victories against these global crime cartels.
		This is so exciting what's happening.
		So we're having victories.
		Consumers can vote.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		In fact, our organization was part of the group of organizations that engineered this tipping point.
		It wasn't just random.
		We started educating people about the health risks of the bovine growth hormone.
		The milk itself has more pus.
		It has more antibiotics, it has more growth hormone, it also has more of a hormone called insulin-like growth factor 1, IGF-1, which in high levels in humans can cause, is linked to cancer and high rates of fraternal twins.
		And it's in much, much higher levels in the milk that comes from these treated cows.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's why we see all these twins suddenly everywhere.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in fact, there was a study that came out in the Journal of Reproductive Medicine where they compared the fraternal twin rate in the United States to the UK.
		Now, the UK, they banned the use of bovine growth hormone.
		In fact, it's banned in most industrialized countries, in all of Europe, Canada, Japan, Australia, New Zealand.
		But it was put through in the United States when Michael Taylor, Monsanto's former attorney, was in charge of policy.
		It wasn't Monsanto drug until they sold it off.
		Eli Lilly this fall because they saw the writing on the wall that it was going down.
		But we know that the white paper that Michael Taylor wrote while he was the Deputy Commissioner of Policy stated that not only were they not going to require labeling of dairy products that contained RBGH, he was even suggesting that if some
		Well, they tried to threaten dairies.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They tried to threaten dairies, as you know, to stop doing that with a bluff.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		And there's something going on in Kansas about that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, stay there.
		When we come back, we're going to talk about this.
		But the key here is, with the estrogen hormones in the mimickers, in the milk, in the plastic, we can have a tipping point.
		We can have a tipping point on the melamine, on all of it.
		We'll be right back.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jeffrey M. Smith is our guest, one of the preeminent experts on GMO, and not just GMO foods, but the policies around the world and the fight against them. but the policies around the world and the fight against Overwhelmingly, in every poll, it's 85, 95, 99, some polls, against these people know they're bad, especially the cross species.
		Genetically modified organisms where they put cockroach genes in tomatoes or some reason they use the cockroaches one of the favorites is such old genetics or in Salmon, I mean pig genes Human genes and pigs approving cloned milk approving cloned animals Milk from cloned animals the list just goes on and on we're gonna go back to him in a moment.
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		These are well done.
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		In fact, uh, for, uh, What is it, 1995?
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		That's probably the best deal and most people don't read, they watch things.
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		This is a short segment, but let's continue, sir, with where you left off about tipping points.
		We're having victory after victory worldwide when we're actually able to reach out and educate the public.
		This is very encouraging.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		With genetically modified foods, the tipping point of consumer rejection in Europe happened in April of 1999 because there is high-profile media coverage on the food safety aspects of GMOs.
		As a result, within a single week, virtually every major food company committed to stop using GM ingredients for their European brands.
		So the tipping point caused a swift rejection of GMOs there.
		Now what's needed here in order to create the tipping point are two fundamental pieces.
		The first is knowledge of the health dangers of GMOs, and the second is information on how to avoid them.
		So we have a new non-GMO shopping guide, and I'll be happy to link that over to InfoWars.
		I'll deal with that after the show.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, plug your site.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		People should buy it right now.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		It's actually free to look at, and you can also buy it at cost in bundles of 50 so you can give it out to your friends.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So it's free online where you can print it off, but I recommend buying it in bundles.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It saves the work and the time, yes.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Yes, so responsibletechnology.org.
		You can go to our shopping guide.
		The Non-GMO Shopping Guide.
		You can look at it online.
		You can print it out.
		But we also, we can ship it.
		We recommend getting these brochures that also talk about the GMO health risks.
		When you give them out together, the health risks brochures tell people why to avoid GMOs, and the Non-GMO Shopping Guide tells people how.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Very simple.
		Very simple.
		Only 14 pages long.
		Very well done.
		Everybody should get these.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		And what it does is we're asking doctors to give it out as patient education materials.
		We're asking religions to give it out to their congregations.
		Parent teacher organizations to give it out to children so that all the parents know what to buy.
		And also it's being made available for free through natural food stores as well.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And there's a new film, and there's a new film out available, The World According to Monsanto.
		We're going to be back in one minute, or 70 seconds to be precise, with Jeffrey M. Smith.
		And let's talk about this, your milk on drugs, just say no with our guest when we get back in one minute.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We are live with Jeffrey Ann Smith.
		Jeffrey, let's get into this incredible new film, and let's get into a wide spectrum of just how bad GMO is, and then the melamine, and the hormones, and the estrogen endorphin disruptors that are in many types of plastic, and how it's being changed worldwide, but we haven't reached the tipping point here yet.
		But this new film, tell us about the world according to Monsanto.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is an amazing film.
		I think that if this film was widely seen in the United States, the tipping point would follow soon after.
		So we're actually recommending for individuals to host home showing parties and to host free public showings.
		And we have handout materials that you can give to people.
		After they see this film because of the level of outrage and the level of motivation to be anti-GMO campaigner is greater in the 30 minutes after seeing the film The World According to Monsanto than any time in a person's life.
		It shows, first of all, the background of this company, Monsanto, whose intention is to replace nature with its genetically engineered, patented creation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they brag!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, tell the listeners, they brag that they mean to take everything over so that we don't have a choice.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		No, it's absolutely true.
		I talked to someone who had come back in 1999 from a conference where Arthur Anderson Consulting, who had been Monsanto's consultant, they were also Enron's consultant, of course, They had bragged about how they had worked with the Monsanto executives, first asking them to describe their ideal future in 15 to 20 years.
		And the executives described a world in which 100% of all commercial seeds in the world were genetically engineered and patented.
		And Anderson Consulting worked backwards from that goal to create the strategy and tactics to achieve it.
		And so their intention is to replace our food with nature.
		Now I've talked to a number of people who used to work at Monsanto.
		One person I spoke to this year, he said about the bovine growth hormone that changes our milk, he said that the three scientists that he talked to who were doing the actual food safety studies on the drug themselves switched to organic milk, which doesn't allow the drug, because they were concerned about the potential influence on their health of increased levels of IGF-1, which is linked to cancer.
		He also told me that other scientists were indicating that they had found adverse effects of feeding their genetically engineered crops to rodents, I don't know if it was mice or rats, and were trying to figure out how to describe it in such a way that the adverse impacts were not apparent to anyone who might look at the study.
		And another person told me that he was originally recruited to go to Monsanto, and he looked at the documents that were done by the former CEO, Robert Shapiro of Monsanto, that glowed about the positive impacts of genetic engineering for health and feeding the world and all that.
		So he decided to take the job, and when he was in St.
		Louis, he actually I stood up at a meeting of all these new recruits and described all these great things that Robert Shapiro wanted for the world and how great it was that they were working for genetic engineering.
		He was pulled aside after the meeting by a vice president of Monsanto.
		And he told me that the vice president said to him, now wait a minute, what Robert Shapiro says is one thing, what we do is something else.
		He's the face man that tells a story we don't even understand what he's talking about.
		We're here to make money.
		Then he discovered that the genetically engineered cotton that was being fed to the dairy cows down the street from him that was from Monsanto's field trials, that it had a potentially dangerous protein that had been the result of this kind of random, primitive way that they genetically engineer crops.
		He tried to complain and say this could be endangering the cows and the food supply, and no one in the company listened.
		Instead, they ostracized him.
		He tried to blow the whistle to government officials in California, to university professors.
		No one listened to him, so he left the company saying he's not going to be part of this disaster.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's covered in the film.
		Long segment coming up.
		Plenty of time to get into this.
		And the big key here, and we'll talk to Jeffrey and Smith about this when we get back, is this is a fight for our lives.
		There are hundreds of GMO foods, but what, eight or nine big main staple crop ones?
		They're about to go into hundreds and hundreds, where basically everything will be GMO.
		So we either stop it now, it's already been devastating to all of us, a lot of us are gonna probably already die from this, or they take over.
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		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We carry several of their videos and books at infowars.com or you can call 888-253-3139.
		Two films and an audio CD for $9.95 in one package.
		I don't have this new film, but I've seen clips of it online.
		Incredibly powerful story.
		Jeffrey M. Smith, tell folks where they can get it.
		CD package is also available at a deep discount at infowars.com.
		I hope you'll go there and get it or call toll free 888-253-3139.
		But this new film, I don't have this new film, but I've seen clips of it online.
		Incredibly powerful story.
		Jeffrey M. Smith, tell folks where they can get it.
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		And I want to be clear here.
		Uh, uh, I mean, I'm somebody who does my research.
		When I was first on air 13 years ago, I was more of a mainline, but only for about a year, kind of libertarian Ron Paul conservative, and I still am on many issues, but Ron Paul now is concerned about GMO, because he's researching, he's a medical doctor.
		I, over the years, went and read the case studies.
		I had Nobel Prize winners on.
		I had executives and genetic engineers who headed up companies and made millions a year.
		Who, where their rats would die, or their rats would be sterile, or the animals would get sick, and they would go say, we've got to go back and fix this.
		They'd say no, because they fire with these gene guns in randomly and get mutations, and then take the mutation they like and breed it.
		There's a lot of stuff science.
		The point is, I have done, oh, probably 300, 400, 500 hours.
		I probably read 20 books on the subject, probably watched 20, 30 films, hundreds of talks, had hundreds of guests on.
		Jeffrey M. Smith is one of the leading figures in fighting this, one of the most successful.
		He is very conservative, and he'll admit that.
		It's frankly far worse than he's even saying.
		Let me explain something to you.
		This is devastating us.
		There's a reason that 1 in 3 has cancer from 1 in 33 now, just 50 years ago.
		There's a reason diabetes is up several thousand percentage points.
		There's a reason the sperm counts down by 80 plus percent on average.
		There's a reason women are infertile.
		There's a reason melamine and all of this, separate from genetic engineering, is hurting us.
		And aspartame.
		And I will tell you it's by design, it's eugenics.
		It's like Bayer Pharmaceutical shipping out over a million doses of Factor VIII, every one of them filled with HIV and hepatitis A, B, and C, knowing it would kill everybody that got it or make them very ill.
		That's on record now, even on MSNBC.
		This is real.
		You need to get this film.
		Jeffrey Smith, where's the best place for folks to get it?
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Well, online, MonsantoFilm.com is the way to get it.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		It'll be on your site, I'm sure, very soon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I meant to carry it.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you'll be getting it soon from us, I think you put an order in today.
		But, my fans, the world record of my fans, I've got to give you the backstory on this.
		I've been interviewed dozens of times by filmmakers, about 14 film crews have come to my little town in Iowa, and I got a call from this French woman, Marie Monique Robin, and you know, it was kind of standard for me to start giving filmmakers the background about GMOs and who to speak to and what the story was.
		The discrediting and the disruptions and the deceptions.
		It turns out she had been studying this so solidly for so many months.
		She knew more than any other filmmaker I had ever spoken with.
		In fact, more than most anti-GMO activists that I've seen around the world in my 30 countries of travel.
		She was so well prepared and she was going to visit the people that I had just written about all over the world, all over the country.
		And so I was excited about this film.
		I actually went to Paris and saw the run-through of the film before it was done.
		and arranged to have it available in the United States because I did not want it to be, you know...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's very well done.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's very well done.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's incredible.
		It's incredible.
		It leaves people absolutely shaking.
		One reviewer said, it will freeze the blood in your veins.
		And what it does is it talks about the history of Monsanto and all of the dealings that they had with Agent Orange and the lies and the apparently rigged research...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And dumping toxic waste, dumping toxic waste in poor neighborhoods.
		Absolutely.
		And earlier I didn't finish my point, I never do, just briefly.
		What I'm saying is I didn't believe that GMO was bad.
		I bought the propaganda that it was going to save everybody and feed the world, when in truth it actually destroys farmers and is designed so they're dependent so agribusiness can take over.
		So my point is I really researched this and found out that I was wrong.
		13 years ago, but go ahead.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Exactly what happens with people is that there's so much money has been spent on convincing people that it's going to feed the world, when they realize how dangerous it is, that the average GM crop reduces yield, that it actually destroys farmers, it's quite a wake-up call.
		And this comes out in this beautiful film.
		We talked to someone from the EPA whose colleague was basically trashed when she discovered Apparently rigged research by Monsanto.
		We talked to a whistleblower at the FDA who lost his job when he tried to get proper studies done on bovine growth hormone.
		It shows how Monsanto's claims that their Roundup herbicide is biodegradable was declared false and illegal by judges in two countries.
		How there's possible cancer effects, it was being covered up, bobbed about their herbicide.
		And each time when this is discovered, somehow Monsanto gets the upper hand and stifles the research and ends up booting out the researcher or keeping him quiet.
		Now, with GMOs, this is all a lead-up to GMOs, which is much worse than the Agent Orange, the DDT, the PCBs in Anniston where they said they didn't want to lose a dollar of business so they weren't going to inform the people locally that they were being poisoned year after year.
		But the GMOs is absolutely the worst.
		And the work that this movie does, it makes it absolutely clear that it was political collusion, industry manipulation, lies and deception that allowed these very dangerous genetically engineered crops.
		In fact, there was one point where she's doing this rare interview with a former FDA pro-biotech manager.
		And he's trying to argue for the safety of GMOs, saying there's absolutely no question that these foods are safe.
		And then she pulls out, from her own notes, a 1991 memo in which he himself admitted that GMOs, that the genetic modification might have been responsible for a deadly epidemic in the 1980s that killed about 100 Americans and caused 5 to 10,000 to fall sick.
		From a genetically engineered food supplement called L-tryptophan.
		And he was like humming and hawing, he just caught absolutely off guard, not realizing that this woman has done her study, done her research.
		She also talks to Dr. Arpad Poosthai from Scotland.
		I think he's been on your show.
		He actually was fired from his job after 35 years and silenced for threats of a lawsuit when he found that genetically engineered crops are inherently dangerous and cause massive damage to rats that were fed a genetically engineered potato.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, he was the head guy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He was the head guy there.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he was actually, he was the guy that had been given a $3 million grant by the UK government to create the ideal testing protocol for GMOs that was going to be instituted into EU law.
		And he had been studying it, you know, with a team of about 20 or 30 people in three different institutes.
		So he was like the leading person in the world doing the most official research on GMOs and was canned because he discovered that they were bad.
		Now when he went public with his concerns initially, He was a hero at his prestigious institute, but then allegedly Monsanto called Clinton, or someone at the White House, someone at the White House called Blair, and someone from the Prime Minister's office in the UK phoned the director of the institute where this guy worked, and the next morning he was fired from his job.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, he was a topogenic engineer.
		He told me on air several times he believed in it.
		He wanted it to work.
		But he couldn't engage in mass murder.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		He was concerned because he realized that the potatoes that had caused such damage, and they caused potentially pre-cancerous cell growth, smaller brains, livers, and testicles, partial atrophy of the liver, damaged immune system.
		I mean, this is after 10 days of feeding a genetic-engineered crop.
		He realized that if his potatoes had been submitted to the same flimsy, superficial, terrible research safety studies that had gotten other products in the market, the potatoes would have flown onto the market and assumed faith.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want to stop you.
		I want to stop you.
		In 10 days in rats, in rodents, which they study because physiologically or the way their metabolic system works, they're the closest to humans next to pigs, but rats are cheaper.
		And from the scientists I've talked to, that's not my opinion.
		That's a fact.
		Uh, that's why they test mice and rats, and other rodents, skinny pigs, uh, that in ten days, devastating effects!
		I mean, this is, imagine, we're all eating other stuff like this right now.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		You know, even, there's some studies that didn't get onto this world according to Monsanto.
		She got a lot of beautiful stuff on.
		But there was this woman, a senior scientist at the Russian National Academy of Sciences, who fed rats genetically engineered soy that we do eat, the mother rats, and more than half of the offspring died within three weeks, and compared to only one out of ten death rate when the mothers were eating non-genetically engineered soy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You understand, we're eating this, this is deadly, that's why there's... I mean, I was talking to a medical doctor the other day, she talked about how when she was going to the Albert Einstein Medical Institution, now Dr. Harvard Medicals as well, You know, we were graduating 30, 40 years ago.
		They would, if there was a child in the ward that had cancer, it was like going to look at, you know, you know, the last right whale.
		I mean, it was so rare that it was like, oh my God, and now there's just kids all around in the neighborhood dying, people dying everywhere.
		I mean, this is a holocaust.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's interesting, this particular scientist, she was harassed, she was set up and attacked, she came to her office once and there was a paper that had been burnt on her desk, she had samples stolen, and she was eventually taken off the ability to do any more GMO research because her director was pressured by his director.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		So another scientist at this institute went up to her and tried to comfort her by actually saying, well, maybe the genetically engineered soy will solve the overpopulation problem on the Earth.
unidentified		Oh!
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		He was supposed to comfort her.
unidentified		Now, another team in Italy... Stop, stop, stop, stop, sir.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is too... I've got to have you back next.
		This is too incredible and we're running out of time.
		We've got one minute before this break ends, this segment.
		Specifically, the name of this lady, where this was.
		Oh, don't worry.
		The overpopulation.
		Because I've actually found, sir, it's all by design.
		I know you don't go that far.
		You stick with the, you know, this area.
		But it always comes up.
		Go back to that little story, a little more specifics.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
		Alright, her name is Dr. Irina Ermakova.
		And, uh, there was some interesting things about her, about her research.
		She had, she had done this research three times when she fed mother, uh, rat genetically engineered soy.
		And each time, there's a huge death rate and also smaller offspring, really runt-like offspring.
		And, uh, a very interesting twist happened after she did her three research studies, which I'll tell you about after the break.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What I'm going to do, because in the interest of time, I'm going to skip this break for the internet blisters and video, folks watching at PrisonPlanet.tv, and we'll come back and get into all the other areas when we return.
		Our time is too valuable.
		Stay with us.
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		Alright, finishing up.
		Jeffrey, I know it's a little bit skilted when I've got you behind the scenes talking when we come back.
		You were finishing up with these rats that had been bred together, that had been fed GMO.
		The embryos themselves were different genetics.
		Finish up with that and then recap any more specifics you've got about she goes to him and they say she's distraught and they say don't worry this will contribute to world overpopulation.
		Which, of course, she was compartmentalized.
		She wasn't told that that was the whole point.
		I know you won't go that far.
		I will.
		I've made the film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
		Then let's get into the $64 billion, or trillion dollar question.
		The fight is now, they are proliferating GMO into everything, and now is the time to stop them.
		Go ahead.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		All right, let's just talk about the reproductive issues, because there's more about reproduction and the failure of animals who've been fed GMOs to reproduce.
		It's actually not just in the laboratory, we're seeing it among livestock, and I'll tie it all together right now.
		So we left off with Irina Ermakova.
		It was at the EU Parliament offices.
		We had just given a talk, and she tells me that she can't do any more studies because She's been taken off the job and that someone tried to comfort her saying that maybe it'll solve the overpopulation problem.
		Now, at that conference, she also showed a slide of testicles of rats that were fed genetically engineered soy and compared to the testicles of rats that were fed regular soy.
		The testicles of rats that were fed regular soy were pink.
		Those that were fed GM soy were blue, a completely different color.
		She showed slides of the cells.
		They were a completely different structure.
		In mice, in Italy, they were fed genetically engineered soy from a different group.
		They looked under an electron microscope and found damage in the young sperm cells associated with the mice that were fed genetically engineered soy.
		They looked into the DNA or the cells of the embryos from the offspring of mice that were fed GM soy and they functioned differently.
		There's a temporary disruption in the production of RNA from the DNA in these mice compared to when the mothers and fathers were fed non-GM soy.
		Now let's, we fast forward to last month, and mice that were fed corn that was genetically engineered also showed infertility issues and damage in the offspring.
		Now we look at what's happened in Iowa and around the world, around the country, a few years ago, when certain varieties of genetically engineered corn appeared to be causing sterility in pigs and cows.
		I talked to one farmer, Jerry Roseman, and he said, you know, he tried everything, couldn't figure out what was going on, and then he found some other people that also had sterility in their pigs, and it turns out they were feeding the same genetically engineered corn.
		So he went to the company, Garst, and said, your corn, they went as a group, all three of them, and said, your corn may be causing our pigs to become sterile.
		So they gave him a sample of corn, and Garst never got back to him.
		No, they had one of the Garst reps call the headquarters and he said, you're never going to believe this, Jeffrey, Jerry, they lost your sample.
		So they claim that they lost the sample.
		And so Jerry called back and said, don't worry, I've been saving 20,000 bushels of corn to do research on.
		You're welcome to come to get more.
		And they never did.
		When it hit the papers a year later, Garst immediately went on television and the radio and papers and said, we've done our studies and it wasn't the corn.
		The same study that's supposedly on this missing sample.
		Every time it was broadcast on radio, television or newspaper or magazine, Jerry would get more calls from more farmers that said, you know, I'm having the same problem.
		No one was willing to do the research on his corn to see if that was causing the problem.
		In fact, supposedly a USDA or a university group was going to get together and try and create a study that was specifically designed to disprove that it was the corn, because they weren't even going to test his corn.
		Well, he had to do his own study, and he took his own corn, and he fed it to his cows and his bulls, and immediately they got sterile also.
		And there's more.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is the biggest story.
		Let's come back in our final segment with you, Jeffrey Smith, and again, talk about the proliferation of all of these systems and how we stop it.
		And of course, humans are also becoming sterile or infertile, right in line with the other mammals that are eating this.
		Ladies and gentlemen, this is by design, make no mistake.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I would volunteer for a study of eating GMO for several years and watching my spur count drop to nothing.
		Good night.
		I've seen the studies.
		Testicles shriveling.
		Everything.
		People can laugh at that.
		This is life and death, folks.
		This isn't a game.
		You can't do it with a young because they can't opt in.
		How do we do controlled studies on humans?
		I know there are volunteers who want to save humanity from this.
		The genetics of sterilization of mammals is getting out in the open air, cross-species naturally into other food crops.
		As you know, Jeffrey, Answering those questions.
		How do we get human studies?
		What human data do we have from populations that have been eating GMO?
		The West is where the sperm counts are dropping, where we do eat it.
		I mean, I think that's evidence right there.
		But I mean, you understand the wide question.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		There's actually three or four questions embedded in that.
		First of all, what kind of evidence do we have from human studies that have already been done?
		And there's only been one human feeding study.
		And it showed that genes that are inserted into genetically engineered soy, in this case, transferred into the DNA of the bacteria living inside our intestines and continued to produce these genetically engineered proteins long after the person had stopped eating the GM soybean.
		Now this means that if we eat genetically engineered corn chips, genetically engineered to produce a pesticide called Bt, If that also were to transfer to our bacteria inside our intestines, it might turn it into living pesticide factories, possibly for the rest of our lives.
		Now, if it does disrupt the gut bacteria, which is involved in immune defense, and digestion, and protecting against intrusions into the blood, then we would end up seeing digestive problems, allergies, immune problems, gut leaky gut, and other things, which is what we're seeing.
		When I give talks to medical groups, they say, you know, we've seen a lot of gastrointestinal problems.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Maybe this gene transfer... Quick example, Crohn's didn't exist 50 years ago.
		Now it's prolific.
		Somebody in my office has got it.
		Every time they eat GMO, they have to only eat at Whole Foods.
		Every time they don't eat GMO, they have to go to the hospital.
		Just people's guts are disintegrating, and they use Crohn's and other names as catch-alls.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		So it certainly could be GMO related.
		Now, in terms of what's been happening to the population associated with GMOs, there's very little surveillance.
		In fact, Health Canada said that they would actually do monitoring of the Canadian citizens to see if eating GMOs was going to cause problems, and within a year they abandoned the study saying it was too difficult.
		We do know that soon after GM soy was introduced to the UK, soy allergies skyrocketed by 50%.
		There's many reasons why that may be the case due to genetically engineered soy.
		Now, so we can't particularly look at the whole issues of the United States in terms of statistics.
		We see migraines going up.
		We see low birth weights going up.
		We see allergies going up.
		We see gastrointestinal problems going up.
		These certainly might have a contributor in the genetically engineered cross.
		But in terms of how do we actually do studies on GMOs with humans, we know when we put a drug on the market, there's a four-phase You do clinical trials, you do post-marketing surveillance, you do sick populations, you do healthy populations.
		There's a whole protocol that's never been done with GMOs and GMOs offer a special problem.
		Because it's not a particular chemical that's always the same when you test it.
		They are actually living organisms that change dramatically as a result of the process of genetic engineering.
		And so therefore, the levels of toxins or allergens and whatnot might be completely different if it's grown in one climate.
		...versus another, or picked at a different time, or happens to be a different subspecies within that particular plant.
		So, you really can't do a properly controlled study with genetically engineered organisms.
		They typically grow it under ideal conditions, and then the other thing that they do is they isolate the ingredient that's been produced by the inserted gene and just use that in their animal feeding studies.
		But you see, the whole plant is different when you genetically engineer it.
		Two to four percent of the DNA is different.
		Hundreds of thousands of mutations are lined up and down the DNA, any one of which can cause a deadly toxin or carcinogen, and it's never tested for when they put these things on the market.
		So, right now, we don't have a proper testing protocol, but what we do have is a bunch of false assumptions that allow these industry-funded studies that basically test nothing to be rubber-stamped by regulatory agencies around the world, and then put into our food supply, where then, well actually, first they put into the environment where it cross-pollinates, and the self-propagating genetic pollution can easily outlast the effects of global warming and nuclear waste.
		And then they put it in our food, where they're feeding the products of this infant science to millions of people.
		So, it's a huge uncontrolled experiment, which can be devastating to the health and life of the population, and maybe already has.
		And the way to get rid of it, the way to stop it, it turns out to be easier to stop than any of the most Many of the big problems we're facing.
		We think that as little as 5% of U.S.
		shoppers, U.S.
		consumers, 15 million people conscientiously avoiding brands that contain GM ingredients.
		By avoiding them, it creates these products which carry no consumer benefit.
		There's no advantage to using GMOs by these food companies.
		If they see they're losing market share, we can easily get them to remove it.
		We need that many people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jeffrey, I'm gonna let you go because again I got behind today.
		You have agreed graciously to join us coming up and that is of course next Friday at 11 20 central standard time for a little bit over an hour and so we look forward to Well, actually, it'll be about an hour and thirty minute interview to continue to break down the facts, giving people the sources.
		I would point people at InfoWars.com in the Alex Jones Recommend sections of books and videos to get the GMO video and audio trilogy for 1995 and the other books that are excellent that you have written.
		So, in summation, though, just spend about two minutes if you can.
		Please, sir.
		Specifically, explaining the latest numbers.
		I know they're always changing.
		How many staple crops have it?
		And then how they're trying to roll it out, basically, into everything.
		I mean, I've spread even tea, even different essential oil plants.
		Just basically, strawberries.
		I mean, everything.
		And so this is a make it or break it.
		It's already at Armageddon level.
		And then they're about to go, you know, to Alpha Centauri's at warp speed.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		Right, so there's eight commercialized genetically engineered crops for food.
		The four major ones that have been in our diet for years and years are soy, corn, cottonseed and canola oil.
		There's also Hawaiian papaya and a little bit of zucchini and crookneck squash.
		Starting this year, just harvested, will be sugar from genetically engineered sugar beet And also for the first time in our diet, white corn.
		It used to be just yellow corn, but a little bit of white corn has also been introduced this year.
		There's been between 100 and 200 different species, I've heard the number 173, different species that have been field trialed around the world, including 50,000 different field trials in the United States.
		Now these are species that are experimental, that have not yet been introduced into our food supply, that are awaiting approval.
		There's also genetically engineered salmon.
		The company wants to introduce that, and the FDA may fast-track rules that allow approvals of that salmon before Obama steps in.
		And there's also even a company that wants to introduce genetically engineered insects, and eventually mosquitoes.
		And so imagine trying to do a recall there.
		Now, what we've identified with genetically engineered crops are a long list of derivatives, particularly of the soy and corn.
		They don't carry the name soy or corn in them, but you have to know that they're created primarily from soy or corn.
		Like multidextrin and dextrose and things.
		We've got that list on ResponsibleTechnology.org.
		Sign up for the Campaign for Healthier Eating in America.
		You can either be a free member or you can be a donating member.
		You can get all sorts of information.
		You can sign up for a free syndicated monthly column.
		You can also go onto my blog at Huffington Post.
		We want to keep people aware as this moves forward, not only with what to avoid, but what steps people can take to prevent it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I want folks to make a commitment because, you know, the social engineers know that we habitualize using a cell phone that radiates our brain, thousands of studies.
		We habitualize drinking out of cheap plastics with the endocrine disruptors leaching out of them.
		We habitualize smoking.
		We habitualize ourselves to the GMO, which is far worse, as you know, the studies show, than even smoking.
		So, of course, you're now trying to have GMO tobacco.
		So, they are moving into every level.
		Now is the time.
		We have to habitualize.
		You know, it's like getting in shape.
		Not that I'm good at that.
		You have to totally commit to it and make it your life or you can't just do it halfway.
		There are no half measures.
		This is the biggest issue out there overall for health, for our society, for our world.
		And this GMO revolution is so wild now and so dangerous.
		We've got to put the genie back in the bottle.
		And I just want to commend you and thank you for all your work.
		And we'll talk to you next Friday, coming up in seven days, sir.
unidentified		Great.
jeffrey m smith ▲ ● ▼		See you then, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Take care.
		And by the way, I would add, folks, if you don't want to buy the DVD, The World According to Monsanto, it's on Google Video.
		It's on YouTube.
		But I would buy it from them and go to MonsantoFilm.com and just get this sucker.
		I'm not selling it.
		We just bought some.
		It will be soon.
		So later you get it at Infowars.com.
		You're watching this on, you know, And we need money.
		I mean, you send us money, you buy our videos, our books, our materials.
		We'll just have more guests on and warn people and do more radio shows.
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		Popping in to finish up on the Mumbai situation.
		He was with us for the first hour or so today.
		That's about to rebroadcast at InfoWars.com or restream, retransmit.
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		For the balance of the show, of the 14 minutes or so we have left, Webster Griffin Tarpley for round two.
		We ran out of time.
		We covered Obama.
		We covered the Queen taking over Canada today.
		Yes, it's in Reuters.
		We're not kidding.
		Showing she rules.
		When it finally comes down to her being thrown out, she says, I rule.
		Boom.
		Parliament, you're gone.
		Huge.
		So when we rebroadcast coming up, you'll hear that the first hour.
		We got into Mumbai.
		You've got the floor.
		Break down why this is a clear intelligence operation.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's the Obama policy of bashing Pakistan, dividing it into five or six parts.
		Remember, Waziristan, Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan, Pashtunistan, and, and, and.
		More and more.
		The immediate framework, the U.S.-Indian nuclear deal, so the U.S.
		has a nuclear alliance with India.
		On the other side, the urgency to get out there and stop the Pakistani-Chinese alliance, which is building up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They were getting friendly, making deals for the first time in decades, just magically.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		So that's got to be stopped.
		The other thing is the Pakistani military fed up with the constant Obama policy, because Obama's the one who demanded it.
		The bombing and killing of Pakistani civilians by these predator drones in the northwest area.
		I mean, imagine.
		Suppose they came around here and started killing people.
		You'd get your backup pretty soon.
		So, the Pakistani military had cut the supply line at least once.
		Saying, look, you want to get your truck convoy up into Afghanistan?
		We're stopping it.
		No trucks for the next two or three days.
		This was a big shock for the Anglo-Americans and for NATO.
		And finally, Gates.
		Gates in position at the Pentagon.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Founder of Al-Qaeda.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Founder of Al-Qaeda.
		Part of the conspiracy to take the hostages in Iran.
		And part of the October surprise.
		So as dirty as can be.
		And this guy's now confirmed.
		The new face of Hope and Change is Robert Gates.
		Now I would say it's five or six components in the Patsy operation, because this is obviously a false flag.
		The British, colonial power with British presence reported.
		People from Brixton Mosque, Finsbury Mosque, British prisons, Leeds, Yorkshire, whatever it is.
		The US, the CIA outposts in the federally administered tribal areas, recruiting patsies, recruiting terrorists there.
		The Israelis, big Israeli-India special relations, General Mizrahi's visit to the Jammu and Kashmir.
		Very, very... That's a little bit like Charon going on the Temple Mount, something like this, right?
		Big provocation, get them all riled up.
		There's also the fact that the Israelis are apparently training Indian special forces, which may be why they did such a poor job.
		Then you get into the raw, right, the raw story, the research and analysis wing, the Indian intelligence organization.
		Everybody knows the ISI.
		They've been demonized.
		U.S. media have never talked about the raw.
		R-A-W. Raw deal is what you're going to get from them.
		And they're going into Afghanistan, picking up crazies there, Mujahideen, what are they are, Taliban fighters, and getting them into Pakistan so that they can essentially wage armed civil war against the Pakistani government.
		So those guys are terrorists, but not the way you'd normally think.
		Now, the raw leads us then to this world of Hindu terrorism.
		And this is very, very big.
		U.S. media never interested in this stuff.
unidentified		Happens every week.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Happens every week.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But you never hear about it?
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		In particular, the guy that you're mentioning, right?
		I think this guy, Karkare.
		Karkare, the anti-terrorism boss of Mumbai, I think is the hero of our time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who busted a Hindu extremist group army captain really staging the last train bombing, blaming it on Muslims.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So he goes in there with his commanders, they all get killed in the first minutes.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		It's clear that there were snipers who were given the specific task of eliminating Karkare and three, four, five of his closest associates.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because he'd been on the news saying the government's staging the terror.
unidentified		Saying in particular that this was being done through Hindu Paxes.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Not Islamic, but Hindu Paxes.
		This is a big thing.
		There's a whole world of Hindu terrorism that they wanted to knock.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And he's killed during the melee.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, let's continue.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'll be live this Sunday from 4 to 6 p.m.
		Central Standard Time.
		Back and forth live next week.
		Rebroadcast starts in T-minus 5 minutes 43 seconds.
		Uh, Webster Tarpley is going to be with me here this weekend until tomorrow, doing some interviews for the Obama film that we are making, and about the financial collapse.
		We're going to go do interviews at the new office after this.
		One of the last shows here in the old office, you get to see both.
		We appreciate you being down here, Webster.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		It's a pleasure, thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
		And of course, your book's available everywhere.
		In fact, before we end with where you see all this going, why they want to get the two countries fighting with each other to destabilize the whole region, Uh, your new, uh, book is available.
		We've already shown it in the earlier hour.
		We've had a three-hour, 40-minute Prison Planet dot TV show today.
		That'll be, if you missed any of it, it'll be posted for Prison Planet dot TV members.
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		Here's the Japanese version of his new, uh, book, the cover of that.
		Let me see the Deutsch.
unidentified		Here's the, uh, Deutsch, the book.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I won't put that phone number up.
		There we go.
		And there you go.
		You have a sticky pad on there.
		And there's the Deutsch issue of his new book, The Postmodern Coup.
		We just, we saw one of his books at Obama at Infowars.com.
		Okay.
		That said, Webster, you've got about three and a half minutes.
		Go ahead and finish up with where this is going.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's going to be a new phase of world confrontation.
		See, the Anglo-American Empire is collapsing financially.
		Everybody can see this, right?
		What's going on in London and above all New York is a total financial collapse.
		We seem to be in a phase of deflation and strength of the dollar.
		But I think this is an illusion, and it's only a passing phase.
		It's because a lot of people are trying to deleverage.
		They're trying to pay down debt, which is largely dollar-denominated debt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's dumping their assets right now.
unidentified		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So there's a glut of all commodities.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		The hedge funds are in liquidation mode.
		Everybody's selling, selling, selling to try to get dollars to pay off debt so you don't go bankrupt.
		But with this $7 trillion and some odd injected, We can, I think, look forward to a phase of hyperinflation in 2009.
		In other words, we're going through a valley of deflation.
		We had hyperinflation already clearly beginning in July, August, with the oil price, you know, up to $100 billion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're now seeing the depression of Main Street and a real economy that will now soon be an overlay of hyperinflation.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Right.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		So, phase of deflation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hyperstack inflation.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Actually, yes, exactly.
		The worst of both.
		Hyperinflationary depression.
		Hyperstack inflation.
		We're going to need a new term.
		You're exactly right.
		And that's what we should do.
		So, the point is now, when the Anglo-American banking system and currency collapses...
		The entire Anglo-American ruling elite goes nuts, and that's what we saw with the Queen.
		The Queen is expressing that her oligarchy over there is not happy campers.
		They're going nuts, because they've got Northern Rock, they've got Gordon Brown, Alistair Stalling at the Exchequer, and Mervyn King at the Bank of England, trying to keep this thing together.
		They can't do it.
		So they said, we've got to have outside events.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's what Rand said, as you know, a month ago, and this was all over foreign press.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Rand Corporation said we need a war bigger than Iraq, bigger than Iran, we need something of World War proportions, and Obama says it's going to be Pakistan.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		And remember that Brzezinski is the big power at Rand.
		In other words, if there's a bleeding ideologue of the Rand Corporation, it's big news for Brzezinski.
		So now look at what we've got.
		U.S., British, and Israel against the world was bad enough, but now it's U.S., Britain, Israel, plus India, most likely, plus Georgia, That's not much.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's showing India never really got away from England.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The crown is showing its power again.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's oligarchy.
		The oligarchy, unfortunately, is based in the religion.
		That's an unfortunate fact.
		And then the British occupation.
		But now, in addition to Georgia, Ukraine split, but Yushchenko wants to go with the U.S.
		and the British and the IMF and NATO.
		Poland, reliable NATO puppet, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia.
		And we're headed into a Polish missile crisis, and there will be an attempt to cut the Russian gas deliveries from Russia into Western Europe.
		They've got to get some anti-Russian hysteria in Europe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that'll be blamed on Russia, even though the West is talking about cutting it off.
webster tarpley ▲ ● ▼		Even though it'll be Ukraine and Poland cutting it off and stealing the gas for their own purposes and publicly selling it.
		And you've got to think about the Kaliningrad exclipse.
		Thank you for listening to GCN.
		that's separate from the rest.
		It's basically East Russia.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's right out on the ocean.
unidentified		Hold on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're out of time, Webster.
		I have to have you back next week.
		This is too important.
		But Webster will be back on the Internet streams right now at Infowars.com.
		He's with us in the first and second hour.
		So we'll be right back with Webster Tarpley.
unidentified		Thank you for listening to GCN.
unidentified		Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.
tom brokaw ▲ ● ▼		A day unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
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brit hume ▲ ● ▼		Some U.S.
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