Alex Jones and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts dissect government overreach, contrasting Austin police warrantless child removals with Rockwall narcotics corruption to illustrate how propaganda seduces citizens into tyranny. They critique "Neocon Obama" for recycling Clinton-era figures like Robert Rubin while proposing a domestic Stasi, alongside manipulated unemployment stats showing a 15% real rate since 2006. Roberts dismisses staged terror threats but warns of a new Bretton Woods currency basket, concluding the U.S. is a financially dependent nation run into the ground by incompetent leaders, ending its global domination. [Automatically generated summary]
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, former editor at the Wall Street Journal, best-selling author, head of Policy, Department of Treasury under Ronald Reagan, is going to be joining us in about two minutes.
I wanted to go back to John in New Jersey, a 9-11 detective.
He sponsored Richard Gage, architect and engineer.
Now I remember hearing about him to come in and speak.
And he's asking, why do you call us jackboot thugs?
He's asking, we're now live at PrisonPlanet.tv.
I've got to turn the lights on in here for the camera.
He's asking, why do you say that?
I'm talking about a government that's building FEMA camps and admitting it in the newspaper.
I'm talking about a government that's saying they're going to have youth brigades and tattletale corps.
I'm talking about a government under social engineering control that is turning America into a police state and throwing the Bill of Rights out the window in non-terror related cases.
And so the system, we're saying, is a jackbooted And I mean, in Austin every day, police take kids from homes without warrants, without indictments, without due process.
And they go, well, I'm just following orders.
And I've had Austin cops walk up and say, turn your camera off or stop talking on a street corner.
You're not allowed to.
And I go, but Austin's lost hundreds of lawsuits for this.
And they say, we don't care.
Turn your camera off.
Get off the street.
So that's who I'm talking about.
And that's what I'm discussing.
So yes, I need to differentiate better.
But the way the police have been organized, the way they're being trained, what's happening in this country, I mean, it's an us-against-them mentality.
They say it's an us-against-them, and I know there are a lot of good police, and I know that I don't handle it right when I blanket, just spew things, but I mean, I'm freaked out, folks.
You know, I'm straight-laced good guy, and I've had all sorts of stuff done to me by the police.
Now, I've had the Austin Police Chief in here, and he claims he's a fan of the show, and I know people that know him privately that he didn't know know me, and he talks about me at dinner parties and at radio stations, behind the scenes, and does an Alex Jones imitation.
I understand that cops are just normal people, but I'm telling you, the cops and the firemen witnessed them take the black boxes off the pile.
The cops, you know, see all this evil going on.
And I'm tired of hearing we're just doing our job.
And now it's all coming to a head.
The foreign banks are looting the country.
But finishing up with what you were saying, John.
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I mean, Alex, the way I've seen it now, I had a mandatory evidence collection class sponsored by the state troopers, the New Jersey state troopers.
And it was, uh, given by, uh, I guess you can Google it.
His name is, uh, Jerry Lewis.
Um, and the opening salvo to the class was, uh, um, I think, uh, I believe it was the, uh, Luftwaffe, uh, interrogator, the head interrogator.
And, uh, I think it was Hans Schrapp.
I think that was the name, but he gives the opening salvo.
It was a two-week class.
Now, I'm the only one sitting in the class going, What is... I mean, he looked like a fan.
It was like, it wasn't, okay, well, we appreciate the technique.
It was like, he looked like a fan of the guy.
Now, what, some of the, I mean, are we becoming fans of, you know, interrogators that got shot down?
You know, they, I mean, pilots got shot down after they survived that flight because you never put a hand on them?
And this is the kind of, So he's telling you how great the Nazi interrogators are.
Well listen, I'd like to get you on as a guest sometime on the show.
so he's telling you how great the Nazi interrogators are well listen, I'd like to get you on as a guest sometime on the show, okay John?
yeah, absolutely alright, I appreciate it you know, I've just had police do so much horrible stuff to me I grew up in Rockwell, Texas, where the police and the sheriff's department delivered the cocaine, the heroin, the marijuana.
Now, I was never into drugs, but I lived in an upper-class neighborhood, you know, upper-middle-class neighborhood, and witnessed the police delivering drugs.
And then I'd see the same cops doing drug raids at the school.
And I mentioned to them, hey, you know, I was one time at a party and saw one of you guys delivering drugs there, and they said, we're going to kill you and your family, and we had to move out of that area of Dallas.
So, my dad had one of the local lawyers call him and say, you need to get out of here or your son's going to be hung in a jail cell.
And then later, the Sheriff Jack McWhorter went to prison for flying heroin and cocaine and marijuana into the Austin, the Rockwall Airport.
But listen, I got Dr. Roberts holding.
I'm going to get into that.
The point is, I can tell you a million stories.
It's in the Denver Post that cops provocateur.
Now, we told you that in Denver.
Cops dress up, they go hit innocent people, the news cameras catch it, and they use that to then demonize the crowds.
Well, you know, he had to be elected because the Republicans It's the only way to hold the Republicans accountable.
I mean, we can't simply let the Republicans escape accountability for their crimes against the Constitution and human rights, for their violations of U.S.
and international laws, for their lies and deceptions and all their financial crookedness.
We can't just re-elect them and say, well, you know, we forgive you for all those crimes Concentration camps and police state and all the rest.
So he had to be elected because it's the only way the people can hold him, can hold the Republicans accountable.
But the establishment... That's the only reason I ever supported the Democrats or Obama.
You know, it's, it's, it's, Pravda put it, after the election, an editorial in Pravda, the Russian newspaper, the old Soviet newspaper.
Here's what they said.
Only Satan Would have been worse than the Bush regime!
Therefore, it could be argued that the new administration in the USA could never be worse than the one which divorced the hearts and minds of Americans from their brothers in the international community, which appalled the rest of the world with shock at all tactics that included concentration camps, torture, mass murder, and utter disrespect for international law.
Well, if we didn't hold the Republicans accountable for that, what would the world think of us?
You know, Obama's a showman, and his victory speech was magnificent, and the cameras scanning the faces of the audience, you could see the hope and the belief in people's faces that propelled him to the presidency.
But he can't bring change to Washington.
Who can he appoint?
There's nobody in the Washington crowd capable of bringing change.
It's the same crowd.
You know, we'll have all the Clinton retreads will be there.
The people who bombed Serbia and committed war crimes in Serbia.
Robert Rubin The Clinton Secretary of the Treasury who got Glass-Steagall repealed and is responsible as much as anybody for the current financial crisis.
Holbrooke, Dennis Ross, these are all the criminals of the Clinton administration.
They'll now simply be recycled in the government.
And even if Obama knew anyone capable of helping him bring change, He wouldn't be able to get them confirmed by the Senate.
The powerful interest groups would go in and block the appointment.
The only way you'll ever get change in Washington is a revolution.
I think what's going to bring change is not the election of Obama, it's the fact that the United States has run out of money and run out of credibility.
...and has annoyed the world, and the world is organizing against us.
We see the statements out of China, out of Russia, out of India, out of Brazil, out of Venezuela, out of Germany even, that they want a different kind of international community in which America isn't the ruler, it's just a member of the community.
Yeah, look, I'm not attacking you saying, oh, you were saying maybe Obama's good.
I mean, obviously we couldn't on paper say, well, let's just go for John McCain, because worldwide that would have been seen as a national endorsement of the neocons.
But now they're bringing in The slicker neocons, I mean, people who are literally from the very, very same crowd.
I mean, his new Chief of Staff alone is just an absolute nightmare.
And so we have all of that going on.
And then you talk about credibility.
If McCain would have come in, internationally and nationally, he would have had no credibility.
And so now that He's in there, he has been able to mesmerize, get more credibility internationally, and now he's saying, okay, we got some big event coming up, the 21st, 22nd, okay, we're going to go ahead and get tough on Iran and Russia, okay, we're going to do all these things, okay, I'm going to appoint a bunch of Israelis and other people to my cabinet.
I mean, there are people in the New York Times saying, if I can pull the article up if you like, saying, you know, he wants a youth brigade, he wants a domestic Stasi, and then I went to change.gov, his new transition website, And it's in there.
They say environmental brigades, brigades in the schools.
It says turning the kids into, I mean, I can read it to you right now, his national service.
We're going to have domestic spy forces, environmental enforcers.
But at the moment, they've got two wars, maybe two more, because they keep blowing up things in Pakistan, and now they've crossed Syria's border, and they're still going on about Iran and Georgia.
And we're talking to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts today.
Continuing with the discussion of the economy, as the former head of the Treasury had a policy, where is the economy really right now versus the mainstream corporate press saying that we're not really in a recession yet and using all of this cooking of books?
And then the added question, why were they more honest in the past about unemployment and recession and things.
They still cooked at some.
And then why do they just lie so much about that now?
It would seem to me, reading Joseph Goebbels on propaganda, he said that sometimes too big a lie is too long.
Once people know it's a lie, it discredits you, so it's better to tell some truth.
Well, what they did with the employment and inflation statistics is that over time each administration monkeyed with it a little bit to make themselves look better.
And any particular change didn't have much effect.
But over, you know, 30 years, they've become cumulative and big effects.
And the biggest things happened in the Clinton administration.
He did two things.
One, he ceased, well I can't say he, but the government during Clinton's administration, cease to count discouraged workers as unemployed.
If you're not actively seeking for a job, you're not considered in the labor force, and therefore if you're discouraged and said, "Well, I've been trying to get a job for five years and can't get one, and I'm just staying home, I'm giving up," they don't count you anymore.
And what they did to inflation, they changed the way they measure it such that comparisons of pre-Clinton and post-Clinton aren't possible because what Clinton they changed the way they measure it such that comparisons of pre-Clinton and post-Clinton aren't possible because what Clinton did in order to cheat the Social Security recipients whose retirement checks were indexed to inflation, they wanted they were in the
To understate inflation.
And one of the ways they did that was, for example, if the price of steak goes up in the index of all the weighted commodities in the basket of goods that they're measuring, the price of steak goes up, it doesn't reflect anymore as inflationary.
They simply assume people don't buy steak, they buy hamburger.
So anytime the price of something goes up, they assume people switch to something To a cheaper substitute.
So the basket of goods is not constant, so you don't even know what you're measuring anymore.
John Williams, a statistician who measures the unemployment rate the way it was traditionally measured by government prior to these changes, has it at about 15%.
And the inflation rate is around 14%.
So already, these are terrible.
This is a terrible situation.
And of course, since the inflation rate is so understated, you know, in the one that the government uses now, it makes it look like you've got real gross domestic product growth.
But John Williams points out that When you measure inflation the way, say, it was measured in the Reagan years, you don't have any.
We've been in a recession since 2006.
Because by understating the inflation, any kind of GDP growth looks real.
But if you put the real measure inflation in there, there's no increase in real growth.
Yeah, let's jump to another topic and we'll go back into the economy where you see it going in the final segment coming up.
What is this big, I'm asking all the experts we have on, what is this big international crisis that the head of the Navy and the head of the Army and Joe Biden and Colin Powell all say is coming on the 21st and 22nd but they can't and won't tell us what it is but they know A lot of our experts are saying they're going to launch some type of embargo against Iran, or Israel's going to threaten to go ahead and attack, or may go ahead and attack.
Well, I don't know what exactly you're talking about, but supposedly on the 15th of November, It's supposed to be an international economic summit because our European allies have demanded a change in the international financial system.
Let's come back and talk about that on the other side of this quick break with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
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We fired our guns... Alright, final second with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
Appreciate him joining us today.
Take some final phone calls at the end of the show.
Cover some other news we haven't gotten to.
Gonna cover the economy a little bit after he leaves us.
Here's Bill Gertz today, Washington Times.
Mullen, military is ready to respond to a transition terror attack.
They believe Al-Qaeda or other countries, you can read all his quotes here.
It's up on Infowars.com.
We have a link saying we're going to probably have another September 11th attack.
We're going to test our president.
Biden says there's going to be something happen right when he gets inaugurated, and that it's going to test him, and it's not going to be popular with Democrats.
You heard about Colin Powell on Meet the Press, you know, two weeks ago, I'm sure, saying that, you know, it was when he endorsed him, he said he will be tested when he's inaugurated on the 21st or 22nd with an international crisis that's manufactured.
I don't see the point of staging one unless they're going to use it not to let him be inaugurated.
But since his government won't really be much different from the one that's in office now, I don't know why they would care whether he's inaugurated or not.
It's going to be the same crowd, the same group, the same interest groups doing the same thing.
Alright, shifting gears back to the new Bretton Woods Agreement, they're openly saying, small group of international banks setting world policy, Stiklitz is saying it, they're all saying it, basically world government of and by, that's their words, the banks setting global carbon credit taxes paid to them.
Do you think they're going to be able to get that coming up at this series of meetings?
No, because The United States and Europe no longer are undisputed leaders.
The United States is busted and totally dependent on foreigners, primarily Asians and Arabs, to finance their consumption and the daily operation of their government, their wars, the defense budget.
The Chinese and the Russians are not going to let themselves be put under the thumb of some kind of Banking group, it's not going to happen.
I think that what this November 15th meeting is about is the rest of the world serving notice on the United States that it's no longer going to be the one that calls the financial terms because the dollar It needs international support.
And Wall Street has shown that it's irresponsible and incompetent, and so its credibility is gone.
So I think you're going to see people, what they're going to say is, look, we need to move to a reserve currency that's a basket of currencies, in which the dollar plays a role but is no longer the dominant in which the dollar plays a role but is no longer So I think that's what's going to start.
So I don't think the banks are going to take over.
The Chinese are not going to let some stupid European bank conspiracy take over China or And certainly the Russians aren't.
They almost had that, you know, after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
They were struggling.
They almost got taken over, but Putin ran them all out of the country, and I don't think he's going to let them back.
And there's going to be so many problems here, from unemployment, from tent cities, from whatever the ridiculous policies that Congress passes, that they're going to just have their hands full with troubles.
Why do they keep saying, because you worked in the White House, you headed up the Treasury, you've been part of different international bodies studying the Russian-U.S.
relations, so you've got your finger somewhere on the pulse of this better than I do, they keep saying to the liberal press, get ready, he's going to do things you don't like, He's going to do things internationally you don't like.
He's going to do things militarily you don't like.
And the press says, well, what is it?
Well, we can't tell you.
What is it they're talking about?
Or what do you think it may be they're talking about that they're worried and getting the media and the population ready for it?
Because that's all they talk about.
There's probably 25 articles a day With even Merkel and Brown and Sarkozy.
We've got a lot of stations out there, but I guess you're the former head of the Treasury, so whatever.
The point is, I'm even hearing this kind of talk on NPR now, so I guess things are changing.
My point is, here's another example.
I go on Russia Today, just like you do, I talk to Russians, they're trying to be free market, they hate communism, I talk to them, but then I go on Russia Today, I say it's wrong that we attacked Georgia, Russia through Georgia and South Ossetia as a proxy.
And then I have all these idiot neocons emailing me going, you work for the Russians, you're KGB.
They're so childlike.
You worked out some of the deals with the Russians there at the end of the Reagan administration to help bring down the Berlin Wall and the rest of it.
Would you like to explain to them, from your perspective, who the Russians really are today, instead of just claiming they're a bunch of commies?
Well, that's my last question, sir, and then we're going to let you go and we appreciate the time.
I remember reading the Banker Bailout Bill, and by the way, the final version had it, just in more legalese terms, about no one can review this, no one can look at this, it will be secret, no court can review it.
Bloomberg reported correctly, Ron Paul's reported it's more like five trillion, they've already sucked about a trillion out, and now even the New York Times reported the head of Goldman Sachs in a conference call
with another one of the big brokerage firms saying, oh this is great we're going to use this for bonuses and to buy other banks and insurance companies and other corporations and no we're not going to loan it out to the people and get the economy going and they're so arrogant just in front of reporters they'll brag about it it sounds like insane hubris and then Goldman Sachs England took a seven and a half billion pound bonuses fourteen plus billion In dollars?
Again, every time I think I can't be shocked, it just goes to a new level of insanity.
It's the same people, but still, where are they going to get the money?
The economy's in recession.
I mean, you saw what the job report was today.
Another 200,000 down.
And even the rig way of measuring unemployment, they say now it's the highest in a couple of decades.
So it's not a situation that's propitious.
uh... for them and uh... the more they the more they do this i think uh... the more they'll be to pay at some point but you know you can't say you're going to be a world power while you run the country into the ground.
They had the greatest engine even if we were going to have a corrupt new world order system we had the you know the big empire the wealth the power and they just like a third world country uh... they're just looting it So even from a position of wanting to have long-term power, it looks like what they're doing is bad.
And I don't know, you know, the things that have happened don't make a lot of sense, and they don't really lead to any good result, even for the people doing it.
So, you know, whether it's hubris, arrogance, hubris, stupidity, you know, Why in the world did Napoleon march off into Russia?
Well, I guess it's because, like the PNAC said, we got the power, why not go for global domination?
And that's what they're doing, and I think they're just so arrogant with all their hookers and money and power and all the yes-men that I think they really still think that they're unstoppable.
I mean, the dollar's going to be saved by being reduced.
It can't go on like it is.
I mean, the Chinese themselves said, you know, one of my columns a week or so ago, quoting what the Chinese had to say about the dollar and all this, and they said, Why in the world are we lending to the Americans so they can go on forever deeper in debt?
And so everybody sees it, and I think the financial crisis has sort of made them think that it's time for them to rein it in.
Obviously the Americans aren't smart enough or willing to, so the rest of the world is going to rein it in, I think.
I think that's what is And it'll take a while.
It won't happen immediately and people will be excited.
The Bush is gone and they've got Obama and he's the first black American and this proves the Americans aren't as racist as we thought and maybe they're better in other ways than we thought and maybe We need to give them a second chance.
So, you know, I don't think Obama will bring change, but I think the Financial deterioration of the United States will bring change, and I can't say what that change is going to be, whether we're going to pull our boots up and get to work in the right way, or whether we're going to end up in some kind of a worse pickle.
I think the financial deterioration of the United States will bring change, and I can't say what that change is going to be, whether we're going to pull our boots up and get to work in the right way, or whether we're going to end up in some kind of a worse pickle.
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By the way, this stuff gets worse and worse with Obama.
We're discovering by the minute, we should have done more research on this, we knew it was bad, even the Albuquerque Examiner has the headline Rahm Emanuel wants compulsory service for your kids.
That's on the Obama website now.
It says your kids are going to have to go serve the government, youth brigades, tattletale squads.
I mean, you can't make this stuff up.
And see, they know, though, they're going to have the brainwashed kids wanting to be part of it.
Let me tell you, look, teenagers with guns, just stay away from them, you little thugs in your little black uniforms.
I mean, just stay away, you anti-American trash.
This is total New World Order Nazism slash Communism.
Folks, the news I'm looking at at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
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But if I have guests and take calls, I won't have time.
There's just hundreds of incredible things.
This is all off the chart.
We've got about four minutes left.
I want to bring Ted Anderson up with a gold and silver offer.
And folks, understand, most people can't even get it at a 20, 30, 40, 50 percent premium.
Ted has the national and international sources to get gold and silver because he buys it in bulk at spot.
And then he even buys it when it's down, like it was a week ago, and now it's way up.
And he sells it for what he got it for when it was down.
You cannot find deals better than this.
Believe me, I've looked.
He has Indians.
He has... Well, Ted, real fast, tell them what you've got.
Well, you know, a lot of the times they're here till midnight, but, you know, at least till 11 o'clock central time, you'll get somebody live to answer the telephone.