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Big Brother, Mainstream Media, Government Cover-Ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Music Well, this is it.
alex jones
The big distraction, the big diversion, the big sucker punch to the American people's stomach, and a nice karate chop to the throat.
It is the staged election of 2008.
It is, of course, ladies and gentlemen, November 4th, 2008.
He joins us once a month for his scheduled interview, very timely.
Mike Rivero, a Obama supporter, at least in a lukewarm fashion, joins us coming up for his once-a-month scheduled appearance today in one hour.
Then Max Keiser, monetary specialist, syndicated columnist, international television news presenter, Max Keiser will be joining us from Europe, from London.
And then for about 10 minutes during the end of the show, I'm going to have Senator Dean Barkley pop in with how that closely contested Senate race is going on up there with Mr. Cullman, Mr. Comedian Franken, and Mr. Barkley.
So that is coming up as well.
And I do want to take a lot of your phone calls today.
Did a decent job of that yesterday on any issue you wish to discuss, but I mean obviously the election itself is important 1-800-259-9231 1-800-259-9231 will get you up and on the air Now I have a little rant and from that rant Paul Watson is going to do a story today About what this election really means and who Barack Obama really is and
the whole left-right paradigm So I can set the record straight about this radio show and myself and where I stand So that is coming up a million thoughts have gone through my mind the last few days about this wanting to Basically break this down on air, but I really haven't done it in its entirety so I want to briefly Coming up in the next segment.
Then we'll get into all of the false spectrum, hologram news dealing with the false reality that people live in and kind of sub-war and beneath reality, beneath the true reality.
Networks may call election before some polls close.
That's Reuters.
Rove, electoral prediction favors Obama win.
All these top Republicans are saying Obama's going to win.
Election guide, keep an early eye on Georgia, Virginia, and Indiana.
Election watchers won't have to wait for polls to close in West Virginia.
In the West, to know how things are going, the first clues will come early when voting ends in Georgia, Indiana, Virginia.
In the West, Democrat Barack Obama wins any of these three, he could be on his way to a big victory, maybe even a landslide.
All over the news, Barack Obama is being described as a messianic leader, a top bishop at an Obama rally described him as the great prophet, the great lawgiver Moses, and the great change that's coming.
Oh, I feel so sorry for you.
Oh, there's change.
There's change, don't you worry.
The eugenics and all of it will only intensify.
We got a McCain memo out saying, you know, don't go off the exit polls.
They're Not accurate in the last 10 years.
That's right.
They were always accurate before, but now, because of election fraud, you can have somebody winning by 15 points in the exit polls, but if they're an anti-establishment candidate, they'll lose by 10, 20, 30, sometimes.
Doesn't matter.
Suddenly polls don't matter anymore.
Suddenly exit polls don't matter.
Because the CIA runs our elections, ladies and gentlemen.
People don't want to hear that.
They want to be part of the big horse race and the spectacle.
He's sucked in by it, and if we don't wake up to just how bad things are, we're never getting it back.
We're never coming back.
And I'm getting criticized for posting video of Obama calling for a youth brigade in the U.S. to spy on Americans.
Oh, God help us.
We'll cover it all in a bunch of other key news on the economy.
When we get back, I'm Alex Jones.
PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com have continual matrix coverage on the fake election.
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From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones
Alright, Paul Watson is doing an article via the basic analysis that I'm about to go over, and he's welcome to add any points he wants to.
And I'm not making this quote staged election about myself.
I don't normally have articles written dealing with myself.
But this is a microcosm Of the majority of the American people, who in major polls say they don't like either party, they don't trust the system, they believe both parties are basically identical, and work for powerful special interests.
The Congress has a 9% approval rating.
That's 8 points lower than it had ever been in history previously.
And it just continues to drop.
And so, I want it clearly on record.
I don't want to be associated with a weak-minded, pathetic, sad people, who I really feel sorry for, who are sucked in by John McCain and Sarah Palin and Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
Do not associate me with your false paradigm, with your hologram you're living in, with the matrix you're living in.
Get that straight.
I'm not sucked into mindless football games that don't matter at the end of the day to my family and my future and this species.
And I'm not sucked into these staged elections.
Now, have we had a legitimate two-party system previously?
You could say, to a certain extent, before Kennedy was killed in 1963, yes.
Were there spectral interests?
Were there robber barons?
Did they try to buy off both parties?
Yes. Did we have other legitimate Third parties that became one of the big two parties and replaced other parties in our history.
Yes. But since the 1960s and the assassination of Kennedy, we had the shadow government, which was officially set up in 47, but that took over full operation of the United States.
In 1963, they set up voter news services.
To steal the votes and put out fake election results at the state and federal level?
And that's been done ever since, and I have done hundreds of radio shows, had hundreds of eyewitnesses and guests and congressional record on that.
And remember, back when, uh, you know, back ten years ago, they had polls where only about eight, nine percent of the American people, you can pull these up, believe that there was systemic election fraud.
Not voter fraud!
That's always there.
That's badly coordinated and low-level and...
Can't influence things on a national scale.
Certainly regionally.
You've got local fat cats stealing elections at the election level fraud, not the retail voter fraud.
And that's small compared to a unified, concerted system of fraud.
At the top.
Now, I remember 10 years ago, getting up on air and telling you that most elections were staged and stolen, catching the county clerk, stealing the election.
The state board admitted she falsified safety seals, broke safety seals, falsified signatures, double-counted ballot boxes, stuffed ballot boxes, and they said it was an accident.
We had eyewitnesses that saw her doing it.
Multiple eyewitnesses that worked for the county.
Some people lost their jobs over coming to me with this.
I didn't just go on air and accuse Dan and Deb Dubois of stealing the election.
You think I want to get sued?
You think I like to lie?
You think I like to stick my neck out there?
No, I went public.
I went to the Commissioner's Court in the state, and I challenged that election, and it came out.
She stole that sucker.
Stealing all sorts of races in there.
For Karen Sunlightner and others.
County Commissioners.
So don't tell me there isn't fraud.
I've caught people being paid out cash money in the legislature.
And that's been front page of the paper, and people have gotten in trouble with the Ethics Commission over it.
Every time I go down to the Capitol, I catch them doing something.
They're a pack of crooks!
Look, they get up on TV and violate state laws that are felonies and vote for each other and triple and quadruple, in some cases on camera, eight different votes.
They, in front of news cameras, will sit there, jumping all over, voting over and over again, punching buttons of different congressmen, different legislators, in the state of Texas.
That could go on and on.
You know what?
I'm already digressing.
The corruption is out of control.
We have a Group of criminals that run the government.
They tax you.
They regulate you to take the money and invest it in their own offshore bank accounts, in their own investments.
Your pension money, all of it, they've taken it and they've invested it in their own private operations.
It's openly corrupt.
The CIA in 47 set up the Chicago 1313 system to take 60 plus percent of the tax money and invest it in offshore corporations for themselves.
It's been totally corrupt since 47. That's when they completely took over.
And they've been dissolving the state power and local power ever since, knowing that could be a backdoor to defeat them.
Now they're bringing us under NORTHCOM control.
So let me explain something about this election.
The people that put sodium fluoride in your water, the people that put mercury in your vaccines, the people that get up on TV and lie to you and tell you it's the law, you've got to take vaccines when there is no law.
The people dissolving our borders, the same people that staged the terror attacks, the same people that are putting in the Pentagon surveillance grid over the American people.
They run things, not George Bush, not Barack Obama, not John McCain.
Instead, every time I criticize McCain on the website, we're being equal here, showing them.
People post, you evil liberal communist, you Barack Obama supporter.
Every time we post a story of the puppet, we always point that out, Barack Obama for carbon taxes, regulating your life, shutting down farms and ranches, youth brigade, spy forces domestically.
Hellish stuff, historically.
Bad as it gets.
Both of them proposing it.
There's comment after comment going, this is a John McCain site.
No, we've been the last few weeks going after Obama more because he's the apparent heir.
He's the new emperor, the new titular head, the new front man, the new Caesar.
He's got all the money and all the media behind him.
So of course.
So I had to deal with eight years of Bill Clinton being a right-wing Nazi fascist.
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Ha!
alex jones
And now, George Bush gets in office.
I've enjoyed seven and three-quarters years being called a hard-core Al-Qaeda.
Yes, I've been called Al-Qaeda.
I've had national publications say that I was probably secretly trained in Afghanistan and crap like that.
I've never even been there.
Never been to Central Asia.
The point is, now I've been called an Al-Qaeda Commie.
When the two, of course, are an oxymoron.
But the point is, now we get to be called fascist again.
When Barack Obama is for the banker takeover bills, the empowerment, the looting for trillions of dollars.
He's gotten four times the Goldman Sachs money of John McCain.
Three times the Wall Street money.
And I hear people that are Barack Obama supporters on TV, on radio saying, oh, all the big money's for McCain.
Lying! Now, it isn't that I'm saying either or matters.
The point I'm making is that they lie within those controlled paradigms to prop up their candidate.
People fix their own mental view They ignore the facts just because they can associate their personal power, their identity, like they do with a certain brand of pickup truck or a certain brand of soft drink or beer, Lone Star, it's a Texas thing, you know.
They have all these little brand things.
They sell you on it.
And you watch with Barack Obama.
There will be no repeal of Patriot Act 1 or 2. There will be no repeal of the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.
There will be no repeal.
Of the overthrow of Posse Comitatus to put military on the streets.
There will be no end to warrantless spying on the American people and the spy satellites being used against the American people by local police now under federal control.
There will be no reform in the direction the American people want less government, less regulation, less control.
It will be more of what the central banks, the social engineers, and architects want.
Taking our money and giving it to offshore corporations.
And what little is left here is used to regulate and control our lives where we can only get government jobs or jobs funded by government contracts.
You know, every show I go on and every TV show I watch, It's the same thing.
The American people want something done.
They want to see something done by Congress.
They want to see more bailouts.
They want to see more funding for government.
No, they don't.
In every poll, even the quote, mainline liberals hate the banker bailout, hate the open borders, hate the war.
Conservatives and liberals are together on almost every issue.
It's Republican and Democratic parties that ignore the will of the people, and it just so happens the will of the people happens to be what the Constitution and Bill of Rights states.
This is common sense.
But they hammer that in over and over and over and over again on TV.
We've got to have everybody come to the center.
The center means the globalist agenda.
We've got to have both parties work together.
The Republicans are going to be out of the Executive, the House, and the Senate.
And the Supreme Court justices generally vote with the, quote, controlled left.
So, you are going to see carbon taxes, and that's going to affect your paycheck, your job, your factory.
Everything that uses electricity, or natural gas, or coal, or gasoline, oil.
They openly state in all the UN documents, the Club of Rome documents, the CFR, that they want to get rid of the American middle class, that we're spoiled, that we're bad, that we'll be more easily controlled once we're destitute.
It is stated.
I've heard them for 20 years on NPR talk about how soon we'll lower the standard of living with the carbon tax to control our lifestyles.
It isn't about the carbon dioxide that plants breathe.
It is about enslaving you, and he's gonna do that, and gun control, and open borders, and taxes, and regulation, and everything else, and you're gonna see the whole agenda that George Bush was the front man for expand.
Just like everything Bill Clinton was for, George Bush expanded.
Stop being suckers!
Stop being idiots!
We'll be right back.
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Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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Thank you.
alex jones
This is how the controlled left-right paradigm works, and I know most of you know this, but you better educate your neighbors.
They're getting more informed, but not enough.
They get sucked in by the pageantry, the horse-race, ball-game atmosphere of these elections.
And all the endless, mindless, petty minutiae that they get everybody to focus in on.
That sucks in friends and family and neighbors, and people I respect.
It's so sad for me to see this happen.
Now, I really feel sorry for black folks because they are talking about him being Moses, this being the greatest change ever, oh they're going to be empowered and freed and it's going to be wonderful.
No. A lot of black folks have entered the middle class.
But it's going to hurt minorities who per capita the lowest incomes even worse under all these carbon taxes under all these regulations Kennedy cut the income tax by 50% and tax revenues doubled in his first two years in office into his third year when they killed him That's a historical fact.
Every time they cut taxes, more revenue comes in.
Because people make more money, the economy explodes.
This is about control.
We were brought into this recession, and now this deepening recession, going into hyperinflation by design.
We have the documents.
We told you they would call for world government, run by the banks.
We told you they'd call for a one world government currency.
The UN called for that today.
It's in Reuters.
They're calling for it in hundreds of publications every day.
Everything we told you!
We know exactly what's happening!
This show knows exactly what's going on!
And frankly, most of the other Patriot Talk shows don't!
The mainline liberals and mainline conservatives don't!
Because you don't read globalist documents!
We do!
Now, why do they want Obama?
Well, after eight years of Bill Clinton carrying the baton, carrying the ball so far, he was worn out, the public was upset, and Very angry with the Democratic Party.
Because, again, the party is owned by foreign interests that don't have our interest.
And so everything they do is unpopular.
And so then they say, OK, George W. Bush will save you.
And conservatives went and supported him no matter what he did, because they were so mad at Bill Clinton.
And then, it took people seven years to wake up.
Bush's approval rating went down to, what, 18% or something?
Cheney's at 9%, Congress at 9%, Hillary Clinton at 20-something.
Because both parties doing the opposite of what the polls say the people want.
They do the opposite of what the Bill of Rights and Constitution says.
And so, they finally, with a year-long campaign, get people tied into it, the primaries, and okay, okay, we don't, we hope, we hope there'll be change, we hope he'll remake things, Barack Obama, we'll vote for him.
And what scares me about Barack Obama, And it wouldn't matter, again, if McCain's in the same agenda, the same policies, just different rhetoric.
It's just that he would have no support.
He would be tied to that dead political animal, you know, politically dead, George W. Bush, the lame duck.
So the establishment needs Barack Obama.
And they are doing something I've never seen them do even with Ronald Reagan.
They are building him up like a messianic leader even mainstream news saying hope change he will change the world He is the president of the world Newsweek is calling him the president of the world And now we're going to go from the phony right-wing anti-terror what that's going to stay though all those policies are going to stay But just now they're going to be quiet.
They're going to depoliticize them So it's not fashionable to fight them the warrantless checkpoints the police state the face scanners the thumb scanners to buy and sell The federal checkpoints, the youth brigades, the tattletale squads, the FBI, spinally American people, regular army and defense intelligence, spinally American people.
I told you that it was a whole bunch of brigades.
If you read the bottom of the Army Times, it actually mentioned that the new brigade was joining all these other brigades and units.
Now the Air Force came out two days ago, mainstream news up on InfoWars.com.
Paul Watson wrote a story about it at PrisonPlanet.com, and announced, oh yeah, there's all these other brigades and units now joining, on top of all the others!
They're taking battle-hardened, psycho, 4-5 tour troops back here to America!
Gung-ho, over-the-top, the most hardcore killers from the Army!
The most savage, battle-hardened units they've got, they're bringing right into Rome!
They've crossed the Rubicon, they've openly brought him into Rome, they threatened Congress a month ago with martial law, they didn't go along with it, and Barack Obama says he supports it all.
He's going to expand it and have a million-plus youth brigade of young people in uniforms spying on their neighbors?
And now I'm a right-wing John McCain supporter because I don't like him doing that.
I don't like John McCain proposing the same thing and proposing, oh, let's have a military surge to fight crime with troops in America.
You people in the left-right system, wake up!
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Stop being such idiots!
alex jones
You understand, ladies and gentlemen?
I'll tell you why else they want Barack Obama when we get back and then take your calls.
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alex jones
There are literally hundreds of other reasons they want Barack Obama in there.
But the number one reason is...
And by the way, Roman Caesars would do this in Gaul, in Germania, in Judea.
In Alexandria.
They would send in a governor for four or five years who would squeeze and torture and kill and act like a buffoon.
They would even have the Roman heralds who would cry out the news of the government, bad mouth the governor in the name of the Caesar.
And then they would send the Savior later.
And the public would put up with even more tyranny just because they were well-spoken and would do a few public stunts to be nice to the public or let a few people out of prison.
Now, I didn't give you the full equation there.
This is in Roman handbooks.
This is in quite a few books.
I mean, I mention it a lot.
Battle for Gaul mentions some of that, but there's quite a few other books written on statecraft by Caesars and historians and others.
Explaining how they would do this.
But let's say they had rebellion in a province.
And they didn't have somebody who was hardcore enough.
They would then send someone even more vicious to say, crucify a third of the population.
You know, they would go into an area and round up tens of thousands of people over a year.
Crucifying them, hanging them dead out of trees, all over the area.
They would take incredibly expensive salt and ship it in and dump it into the fields so they couldn't grow.
And then they would send, again after that person had just crushed and slaughtered everybody, the Savior.
These are handbooks, ladies and gentlemen.
There are slave handbooks written in Rome, republished by the British and the French for the sugarcane colonies in the Caribbean, on how to set the women up over the men.
The housewomen.
With the men out in the barn.
And how to control that and how to raise the children up.
It's a science.
It was a science then.
It's a science now.
And they do everything they can to tell you government's inept and doesn't know what it's doing and they couldn't tie their shoelaces.
You know how complex a factory is?
Just an average factory that, say, makes glass?
All the huge systems are a steel mill?
How about NASA?
How about the CIA?
How about operations they carry out?
Now, down at the low level, they do have slimy, red-tape bureaucracy, but that's only to capture you!
Not them!
Alright, I'm digressing and I want to go to your calls.
So here comes Obama, shiny face, smiling, well-spoken, all the right mannerisms and gestures.
And the media does everything they can to build him up and Oh, Grandma gets sick right on time and Grandma dies.
I tell you, that stinks, folks.
It's like Clinton's mother was shooting her mouth off bye-bye mommy right when he got elected.
But she died the day before he got elected.
But whatever.
The point is, here comes the Savior, and they tell the world, He loves you, Europe!
He doesn't turn your back on you!
He doesn't turn your back on you, Arabs!
You know, America wants to be friendly, but We are going to stand up to Iran, and we are going to go ahead and go into Pakistan, and we are going to encircle Russia, and Joe Biden and others say he's going to do some really unpopular stuff for the left!
We're going to cut teacher pay, and we're going to increase the defense spending.
Why, a trillion dollar defense budget, 400 billion bigger than the last one, that's not big enough!
And we're going to do all these things, and open borders, and national ID cards, and all of it.
for all.
And they're going to have the House, the Senate, and the executive.
They're going to have the legislative and the executive.
And they're going to have the media firmly behind him.
And they'll probably stage a terror attack very soon after he's elected, within the first year, so he can grandstand and bomb some third-world country and conservatives.
unidentified
I didn't like him before, but I like him now!
alex jones
Because the good old boys will be getting homeland security jobs as they convert the economy over to that.
Oh, it's going to be government make-work, but it's not going to be building dams and bridges and rest stops and planting orchards.
No, it's going to be...
They say it's going to be domestic spies.
By the way, Obama didn't come up with that.
That was set up by George Bush, started by Bill Clinton, but actually executed.
I'll never forget the Philadelphia Daily News and other papers.
Describing freshmen, sophomores, juniors, and seniors in high schools across the country training in warrant service checkpoints, writing dossiers on their parents, and at the shooting range shooting M16s with the Army, the FBI, and the BATF.
unidentified
They're already all around you.
alex jones
Just like the 26,000 preachers hired to tell their flocks to accept martial law and turn their guns in.
This is a huge military operation by the foreign banks, looting everything.
So they're talking about change.
Yes. We've had one leg hacked off, they're going to hack another leg off and let us bleed out.
They're going to take the tourniquets off our legs.
Folks, you're going to see change like you never saw.
And I remember going on air, When George Bush was elected and saying, get ready, folks.
Get ready, you're gonna see tyranny.
You're gonna see staged terror.
You're gonna see a new world order because it's their job.
Republicans and conservatives were at the point of rebellion over Bill Clinton.
Here comes George Bush to pacify him.
Then the liberals are at the point of rebellion over George Bush.
The whole country woke up to him.
Not just liberals.
Here comes the liberal savior.
And, of course, we've seen massive election fraud, the Supreme Court appointing Bush, and then John Kerry taking the dive, and people going to prison for stealing the election in 2004.
Oh, but now, see, Barack Obama will be elected in a landslide, proving the machines are safe and work.
Meanwhile, stealing all the local elections from people the new order doesn't like, stealing governorships, stealing legislative seats of the states, unifying, cementing, quieting the debate about the voting machines.
Where we've gone from 90 plus percent not believing there's fraud to over 90 percent in major polls believing there is systemic top-down election fraud.
That'll kind of salve that.
And I've even heard the pundits say, oh, he'll bring people back into trusting government, back into working together as a country.
But we're not working together as a country.
We're going under their control.
When people wake up in four to eight years, they'll give us another sniveling fake Republican.
But lots of conservative talk, who will then triple the size of the government again, like George Bush did, and triple the size of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives.
Triple the size of the Department of Education.
Sign on to UNESCO and the UN Treaties.
Alright, I've ranted enough.
I want to go to your calls.
Max Keiser's coming up.
Mike Rivera's coming up.
I'm trying to get all the Webster Tarpaulin.
I want to get him on for 20 minutes or so to Debate with Rivero that make for good radio.
Interesting, thought-provoking.
You know, Rivero, a guy I really respect, he has fallen to his knees before Lord Obama.
And see, that'll create friction between us.
I like him.
I got him a show on Genesis.
I'm promoting him.
I think he's a great guy.
But I have to come out and say when I think he's wrong.
Notice my stories aren't linked on his website anymore, but that's fine.
Or maybe they are, I haven't seen them lately.
The point is, is that I have to tell the truth.
I have to come out and say it, tell it like it is.
And I will not be suckered into giving aid and comfort to Barack Obama, who's gonna quote, bankrupt the coal industry.
You know how many, close to a million jobs coal industry provides, conservatively?
You know what that's going to do?
49% of our power.
unidentified
But McCain was going to do it too!
alex jones
Jamel in Cleveland, Ohio.
You're on the air, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, so, hello?
alex jones
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, I've been trying to contact your radio station for a long time.
I've kind of purposely waited for Radio Day for a nice long day.
I'm a fan of your website to a certain degree, but I have a very different opinion of How you feel about Barack Obama, and I hope you give me time to express it, but first I want to clear something up.
That you said, along, well, back in the primary, you was talking about, around that Jeremiah Wright, when that whole situation was going on, and you had played a clip on your show, of Reverend Jeremiah Wright, what he was saying about the American government, and about them decreeing the AIDS virus.
alex jones
Yeah, and I said that I actually agree with him, and see, notice the media attacked Obama for the wrong reasons, through issues like that.
unidentified
What did I say?
alex jones
Now hold on, your phone's a little echoey.
What did I say?
unidentified
You said that Al Sharpton Hey, I saw Al Sharpton do it on Fox News, and I don't lie, sir.
alex jones
Hold on, hold on.
I don't lie.
I did see him say that, and I said he's New World Order, because he goes on TV with Pat Robertson pushing for a global carbon tax.
Al Sharpton has definitely sold out to the system.
I mean, he's all over TV now.
unidentified
Well, just because somebody do a commercial for me in a new world order, but first, but I want to say I was listening to Al Sarkin's radio show the day that, matter of fact, at the moment that...
alex jones
But he puts out different messages on different venues, my friend.
Can I please finish?
unidentified
Let me finish.
I've seen it on Fox News and I don't know which.
You called him out on somebody, but I don't know, maybe you misinterpreted what he said, but at the moment that Barack Obama was denounced on Reverend Wright, Al Sarkin said, and I listen to Al Sarkin every day, I'm black, so I'm very impressed with the black community, and Al Sarkin practices black liberation theology, and at the moment that Barack Obama was denounced on Reverend Wright, Al Sarkin's exact words were this, I'm not going to denounce Barack Obama, But, I agree with Webber White.
This is Black Warriors.
I agree with Webber White.
I practice Black Liberation Theology.
And he said on the air, three television networks just called me and asked me to come on TV and denounce Barack Obama.
alex jones
Okay, let me just stop you.
Let me just stop you.
I saw him on Fox News.
I'm going from memory.
I might have been CNN.
The point is, he's on there all the time, so I doubt we saw the same program.
And he said, you know, I don't think it's good.
But look, look, look, sir, I'm not going to sit here and debate all this.
It doesn't even matter.
It doesn't even matter.
You know what?
I want to see black leaders, but I didn't.
I saw a black state attorney out there telling black folks it was the law to line up and take shots, and then I had him on the show and he said, well, I don't give my own children the shots and it's not the law.
And so I supported Reverend Wright in saying that the AIDS virus was engineered, and I talk about real issues.
Let me tell you something.
You're not going to hear Barack Obama come out Against that, you're not going to hear him come out against Planned Parenthood.
He's actually for it.
Just like Margaret Sanger went, and we have the documents, went and hired black folks to sell blacks on going along with eugenics.
And so, just like white folks buying into, you know, the propaganda, black folks are doing the same thing.
Just watch and see, and just, just see what happens, my friend.
unidentified
Let me just make my point because I'm going to get into that also.
But the Al Sarkar interview was on CNN.
He was on Larry King's show that night.
alex jones
Talking about Al Sharpton coming out against Reverend Wright.
And I wouldn't have said it if I hadn't saw it.
Look, I gotta go.
I gotta go to other callers, sir.
I appreciate your call.
It doesn't matter.
Don't worry.
They're gonna keep spraying the skies with aluminum oxide.
They're gonna keep putting poison in your water.
They're gonna keep on shooting your kids up full of mercury.
They're gonna keep those death mills going in your community.
They're gonna continue the wars.
They're gonna continue the taxes and the regulation.
But it won't matter.
We can all get into the fake football game of Barack Obama versus McCain.
Okay? God help us.
Oh my gosh.
Patrick in North Carolina, you're on the air.
unidentified
How's it going?
alex jones
Pretty good.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Well, I wanted to talk about two things today.
The first thing was fluoride.
I was at my dentist the other day and I was asking them where fluoride came from and the first usage of fluoride.
And she didn't know where, uh, the first usage of fluoride was, but she said fluoride came naturally in water and, like, in the soil.
alex jones
Yeah, total lies.
Calcium fluoride...
Stop! Calcium fluoride does in small amounts of it's needed.
You need small amounts of arsenic.
Sodium fluoride's deadly enough, but it's a cover name for a bunch of other poisons.
Go ahead.
unidentified
But yeah, what they were saying on the National Cancer Institute's website was Sodium fluoride is found, but it's in such trace amounts that it's nothing.
They have to add it to water by usage of, uh, what is it?
Uh, phosphorus, I think it is?
Extract? Some sort of, uh...
alex jones
No, no.
Look, it's, it's, they take the total toxic waste...
unidentified
It's a fertilizer, though.
...
alex jones
from fertilizer and aluminum manufacturing, and they dump it in your water.
Yeah, and it's not even really what you'd call sodium fluoride.
That's a misnomer.
It's, it's, it's a group of three different Look, I've had top scientists on.
Folks, go research it for yourself.
It's deadly poison!
But we're not going to worry about that!
We're getting change!
Just like we got with George Bush.
Anything else?
So she told you that it was calcium chloride and wonderful for you, and then what did you say to her?
unidentified
No, she didn't tell me it was wonderful for me or anything like that.
I was just asking her questions.
She was giving me answers.
alex jones
Well, remember, most dentists, most doctors...
unidentified
I like to go around and ask general people questions because I like to get what...
What are they telling other people?
alex jones
They're compartmentalized.
That dentist isn't bad lady.
Doctors aren't.
They're compartmentalized.
They're compartmentalized.
They don't know why diabetes is up several thousand percent or cancers from 1 in 33 to 1 in 2 with males, 1 in 3 with females.
They don't know why they've gone from 1 in 25,000 with autism to 1 in 87. They don't know why there's kids dying all over the place.
But we do.
Because we go and read what the research scientists are saying, what the governments say.
They knew when they approved cell phones in the 80s they were going to give you brain cancer.
unidentified
Have you heard of getyouhome.gov?
Yes. Yeah, it's a new thing.
It's like the new NAU push that they've got going on.
alex jones
They're taking over all the major roads to tax.
That'll be the taxing authority to travel for the North American Union.
It's all publicly announced.
And the public is told it doesn't exist.
But don't worry, you're going to have change.
You're going to have Barack Obama.
unidentified
Wait, and your passport to get to these places?
alex jones
Yes, you're going to, well...
Yeah! You're going to have a North American Union...
Yes, it's a North American Union ID, that's what they call it.
And then on all the major 83 interstate federal highways, you will have to have that card to travel and you'll be taxed.
unidentified
Yeah, that's exactly right, yep.
alex jones
Oh, they got TV ads saying it now.
Everything I told you is right out of government documents!
Mayday! Mayday!
Mayday! The bankers run it!
The bankers run it!
Barack Obama and George Bush don't run squat!
How long have I been saying Bush is a puppet?
unidentified
Uh, forever.
alex jones
And being called a commie!
Okay, when he tripled the size of the government, now I'm gonna be a fascist racist!
So sick of it!
So sick of the public being so weak-minded!
unidentified
Nah, but really, people should get...
Take a look at getyouhome.gov if you really want to see a hardcore push for the N.E.O.
alex jones
John, a month ago I sent you...
Thanks, I appreciate your call.
John, a month ago I sent you, or three weeks ago, I sent you the national ID card, North American Union ID card.
I sent you a TV news ad for that.
I actually sent you a government ad for that.
You'll never find it.
I don't remember the title.
I think it was something like North American ID, North American Travel Pass.
That's what it's called.
Oh, help me.
You know what travel passes mean.
You know what carbon taxes mean.
It's on what you exhale.
The Club of Rome and the CFR say the state is organizing itself under a war economy to wage war on the individual and the family.
Mayday! Mayday!
Mayday! Mayday!
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tom brokaw
A day unlike any other in the long course of American history.
A terrorist act of war against this country.
unidentified
The enemy struck America on September 11th.
But who is the enemy?
Bin Laden.
This is his ammo.
We have to look to the Middle East.
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
brit hume
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
unidentified
Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli intelligence network, warnings and war games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
Phase one of the insider's plan for a one-world government has been initiated with a recent bailout.
International bankers and power brokers have engineered the current crisis to create a new currency and a new world bank to act as savior.
But we've only seen the beginning.
Their next engineered crisis will be on a scale never before seen in modern times.
Shortages and empty shelves will spread fear and panic across the land.
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Phase one is a one-world currency.
which we are currently being prepared to accept.
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*music* He's bounding down, loaded up and trucking!
alex jones
The global issues, tribalism, divide and conquer, balkanization to play us off against each other, Republican against Democrat, black against white, male against female, northern against southerner, American, you know, against Arab.
unidentified
Some never mind them breaks, cause we got a run to make.
alex jones
And there's beer in Texarkana.
I remember in the weeks before the election I was criticizing George Bush saying they're both bad.
Saying that Al Gore wouldn't be able to get the New World Order agenda through if people were wise to him because of Bill Clinton.
They were like you traitor you call me Now I got black folks emailing me going how much we liked you.
How come you don't like black people?
Oh Man I don't even care if people think about me anymore.
I know I'm right All I do is study this and I'm not a sucker I'm not gonna be sucker.
Keep going out there all you liberal Well-meaning idiots, black folks, everybody else, go vote for Barack Obama.
If the establishment didn't want him, he wouldn't win today.
There's election fraud.
You remember that.
When they didn't want Al Gore or John Kerry in there, they lost, even though they won.
You just remember that.
Alright, I want to go to Ed, Francis, Jake, Scott, And others, but I just can't help it.
I gotta play this last part.
Make no mistake, folks.
The New World Order is on your tail.
They are poisoning you.
unidentified
So you got to dodge them.
You got to duck them.
alex jones
You got to keep that decent truckin'.
unidentified
So get that hammer down and give them hell!
alex jones
Yeah, we're not gonna stop.
unidentified
We're not gonna get fooled by the...
alex jones
Presidential puppets legitimizing the fraud machines.
We're not going to get scammed by the New World Order.
Is that Bev Harris popping in later?
Max Keiser?
Senator Dean Barkley?
Mike Rivero?
Hey, here's a couple different TV ads, but here they are about your North American Union travel card.
Oh, your North American travel card.
Here it is.
kevin mcpadden
For spacious skies.
unidentified
For amber waves of grain.
For purple mountain majesties.
Above the fruited plain.
On June 1st, 2009, new document requirements will make getting home from Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean, by land or sea, more efficient.
Now isn't that beautiful, America?
Learn more about the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative at getyouhome.gov.
alex jones
When you go to the site, it's called the North American Travel Pass.
It's like a driver's license.
Now, that's the one they're going to give all the illegal aliens to make them legal.
See, they're going to end the illegal alien problems.
They're going to make it all legal.
It's going to be legal for you to go down there and back and forth.
No border, baby.
Nothing but those toll roads taxing the daylight side of you.
Every agenda of George Bush is going to be followed by Barack Obama, because it wasn't George Bush or Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan's agenda.
It was the New World Orders agenda.
It was the corporate bankers.
Every way they can tax you.
Every way they can regulate you.
Every way they can cheat you.
Oh man, all those years of being called a right-winger under Clinton, now to be called a hardcore commie for the last eight years, and now I'm gonna be a racist.
Because the public is drinking the Kool-Aid, and again, it's only about, what, 35%?
40%. They're saying 80% turnout, so I guess about 40% of the country, or more, is going to be voting for Obama.
So that's quite a group suckered back in.
9% approval rating for that Congress.
You can figure out they're a pack of criminals.
A thousand to one phone calls against the bank or takeover.
But they passed it.
I thought Obama was bringing change.
He was the biggest guy out there pushing it.
When 95% of us, didn't matter what color you were, were against it.
Well, get ready for a lot more.
unidentified
Thank you for listening to GCN.
Visit GCNlive.com today.
May I have everybody's attention, please?
I've come with a message of information.
9-11 was an inside job.
luke rudkowski
Do you like being a puppet, sir?
unidentified
Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
luke rudkowski
How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?
Was it engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the C.A.R.?
unidentified
The day that we stop asking questions, Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
An inside job?
How dare you?
If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.
All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.
And if the government has not told the truth in five years, we will be here on the 10th anniversary of the...
alex jones
Truth Rising.
Download the film at PrisonPlanet.tv right now.
Or get the DVD at InfoWars.com.
It's now time to take the revolution to the next level.
unidentified
corruption. Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
war on corruption.
Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
The amazing Max Keiser joining us in one hour.
Don't know who he is, you'll find out.
Mike Rivero joining us in about eight minutes.
Love open phones.
Lev Harris popping in.
Senator Dean Barclay popping in for the Senate race up in Minnesota.
It's all coming up here on Election Day.
And, you know, I'm tempted, as I'm already staying up here at the office, to go on International Iranian TV, International British Radio out of London, and some other news.
I might as well just maybe do a special report tonight on PrisonPlanet.tv and only on the internet streams, won't be on the AM and FM dial.
I don't know, I guess I could talk to Ted and have another board op coming tonight.
I guess I could go live in my rebroadcast slot on the network, cover the election.
See if we can make that happen.
All right, let's take a few more calls.
Ed in Colorado.
Go ahead, sir.
unidentified
My son Sean is a big supporter of you, and he's in trouble.
He's in Thailand.
alex jones
Who's a big supporter?
unidentified
My son Sean Fitzgerald.
He's a member of the 9-11 Colorado 9-11 Visionaries and We Are Change.
alex jones
Yeah, they're great folks.
What's up?
What's happening?
unidentified
well he's in thailand and he's been chased by uh...
paramilitary police he's taken refuge in a medical clinic in my south thailand to the he called me and asked me to call you he called me about an hour ago i called you immediately well how are we going to help him in thailand or in a medical clinic but he thought maybe there's some way you could call attention to his i got a sneaking suspicion he was videotaping things in a country that isn't so free
he's a stay-at-home dad with a No, I'm not saying your son's bad.
alex jones
I'm trying to imagine why they're after him.
unidentified
Yeah. Is there anything that anyone can do to...
alex jones
Well, I mean, what's the specifics?
unidentified
He said that last night he was chased by some paramilitaries and got injured and then was taken into the medical clinic where his wife works and now he's afraid to go out of there because...
alex jones
yeah it was chased by the youth corps i guess sir one of their local militia brigades uh...
but we want to tell people where the claim Yeah. No, I haven't.
unidentified
He asked me to call you first.
But I think I'll call them next.
Sean. S-E-A-N Fitzgerald.
F-I-T-Z-G-E-R-A-L-D.
His wife is a senior administrator for the medical clinic for Dr. Cynthia's well-known foundation, and he stays home and takes care of his seven-year-old son, and he teaches some English and does other things, but... Yeah, Thailand's totally brainwashed.
alex jones
They worship their king and queen.
Total police state.
unidentified
Yeah. He was doing fine for a year, and then I don't know what happened, but...
alex jones
Well, people ask why I haven't left the U.S. One reason I'm a stay-and-fight in the Info War, but the second reason is there's not a lot of places to run.
Yeah. Well, how do we help him?
What do we do?
unidentified
Well, I'll call the Embassy.
Can I email you about this?
Sure. Okay, then I'll email your website and I'll get more information and stay in touch, okay?
alex jones
Okay, thank you.
You need to call the Embassy?
And, uh, that's the first thing I do.
Okay, getting off the election there for a minute, but I'd love to be able to help you, Ed.
Um, we're going to take more calls from Francis and Jake and Scott and many others that are patiently holding at 1-800-259-9231.
It is November 4, 2008.
Americans are lining up, thinking that, uh, they're actually going to have some change with Barack H. Obama.
It would have gotten identical agendas, just different rhetoric from both men.
This will legitimize electronic fraud machines, and this will sucker the public, I guess, for four to eight years again, as the carbon taxes, the youth brigades, all of it unfolds.
All the people are saying, well, let's see if that's just rhetoric from Obama.
Obama doesn't run anything.
What are you talking about?
We'll be right back.
He's not going to run anything.
tom brokaw
Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
unidentified
The enemy struck America on September 11th.
But who is the enemy?
Bin Laden.
This is his MO.
We have to look to the Middle East.
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
brit hume
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
unidentified
Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijacker's ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connections Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
Hello, I'm Steve Sheck.
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Okay, I want to be clear about this because it's become quite an issue on the internet.
Mike Rivero is a great guy.
I really respect his political mind.
You know, I was teasing him earlier about, hey, not linking to my stories, but he actually has been.
He told me Watson hadn't been sending him as many, so I'm going to chastise him over at WhatReallyHappened.com.
But it is these types of political fights that do get friends, family, neighbors at each other's throats, and that hasn't happened with Mike and I. It's just that he gets emails trying to stir stuff up between myself and him and others.
I get emails and constant comments on the InfoWars.com pages about why is Mike Rivero supporting Barack Obama?
Why is he pushing his campaign on his Genesis show?
Why is he pushing on his website?
And look, I just want to make this point.
He's a smart guy and he's been right about a lot of things.
And my whole point is that I'm not supporting John McCain.
But I do agree with Webster Tarpley that John McCain would be a total lame duck.
He would have no support.
And then you'd have a Democratic House and Senate, and that would be a separation of powers.
And that then he wouldn't be able to get any of his agenda through, which is almost identical to Obama's on more wars and carbon taxes and all these other bad things.
So, I've had callers calling in.
You know, one earlier kind of mad at me for not supporting Obama.
And I've had people emailing me asking if I'm a racist because I'm not supporting Obama.
Folks, I can't do it.
Just like I couldn't support George Bush or Al Gore in 2000, or either one of them in 2004, John Kerry or George Bush.
I made a film about it called American Dictators.
I just can't do it.
And I've got my reasons for saying that.
I know Mike's got his reasons for saying he thinks Obama's the lesser of two evils.
He says there's going to be no honeymoon.
He'll immediately start going after Obama.
But when I see him being the heir apparent and the media being behind him and all of this, it really stinks to high heaven.
So we have to be able to agree to disagree and not descend on each other, though I do want to have Tarpley pop in in about 20 minutes, because that makes for lively debate on radio, to have a discussion with Rivero, first and foremost, because it'll be very thought-provoking.
But Mike, you've got the floor.
Why are you supporting Obama?
michael rivero
Well, again, it's not so much that I'm supporting Obama, because after he started moving centrists, he started saying a lot of things I disagreed with.
It's, as you said earlier, I see him as the lesser of two evils.
It's really more being opposed to John McCain, a.k.a.
Bush Light.
And I had a caller into my own show who really kind of nailed it.
What's really turned off a lot of people was the manner in which McCain ran his campaign.
Avoiding the issues, going for the personal attacks, the flood of emails that probably you've been getting as well as I do that, you know, Obama's real father was Malcolm X, and just this kind of nonsense.
And I think future history is going to look back at the McCain campaign and really point out the choosing of Sarah Palin was the big mistake.
Because it really made a lot of people question McCain's ability to make good decisions, and that's what we pay the President to do.
And I'll be honest, and I've said this on my own show, if McCain had picked Ron Paul to be his Vice President, I probably would have supported him over Obama.
unidentified
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michael rivero
like that, in the heat of the moment, then he cannot be relied on to make the right decision.
If something really bad starts happening to the United States, he'll lose his temper, he'll go with his first gut call, and that's a really bad way to run a country.
alex jones
But that's what the system did.
They ran a political corpse, a guy who statistically will be dead in a few years.
Most people don't even live a few years.
He's lived nine after that cancer, on average.
Ninety-plus percent die after ten years.
He's had a relapse.
I mean, they ran like Bob Dole against Bill Clinton, who you hated in 1996.
You know, you fought against Clinton.
Yeah. And so, I mean, I see them running this political corpse by design because they see Barack Obama as their heir apparent.
I mean, Mike, you're against the carbon taxes.
You're a Ron Paul supporter.
You are against Bill Clinton.
I mean, what's scary is they're going to have the House, the Senate, and the Executive.
They're going to be able to ram through whatever they want.
michael rivero
Yeah, you know, it's not a perfect situation.
And again, just like you and I don't agree 100% on everything that we talk about, there was no candidate out there that I 100% agreed with.
So it really came down to, you know, a numbers game.
And again, I think the reason we're seeing the election results that we're seeing start to emerge across the country, it's not so much that people were for Barack Obama.
They were just tired of what we've had for the last going on 30 years.
And change really was the buzzword.
Of course, the economy's starting to fall apart a little earlier than the Republicans hoped it would.
alex jones
And that's 28 years.
michael rivero
That was certainly a major factor.
alex jones
Just interrupt, and we'll go back to the economy.
28 years since we haven't had a Bush or a Clinton on the ticket.
So yes, people are saying, we want a change.
The problem is the very same interests that control those other two families ... are clearly in control of Barack Obama.
michael rivero
I'm not sure how clearly in control they are.
I know Obama's a professional politician and he says whatever he thinks he needs to say to win.
But, you know, if you look at the various issues that are kind of a push for both of them, it really comes down to enthusiasm.
And whereas Barack Obama talks about war in Iraq and Iran, although he's talking about bringing the troops home a lot sooner than McCain was, I really got a sense that McCain enjoys the idea of being commander-in-chief and sending people off to war, whereas Barack Obama, I think, is willing to do it if he perceives it's necessary, but he's not as in love emotionally with the idea.
And the bottom line is that...
I keep going back to Lyndon Johnson and this famous meeting he had with Dr. Martin Luther King in the White House, where we brought Dr. King and said, okay, how are we going to get this civil rights thing to work?
And Dr. King, after realizing that Lyndon Johnson wasn't kidding, said, you know, Mr. President, forgive me, I'm gratified to hear you making some serious plans about civil rights in this country, but it's so at odds with what you said during your campaign.
And Lyndon Johnson said, well, then I was campaigning, and I had to make my supporters happy, and now I'm the president and I can do what I feel is right.
And you know that old Negro spiritual, free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I'm free at last.
And, you know, I hate to be making my political choices on the basis of who I think is actually hedging a little bit more, but I think when Barack Obama finally gets into that Oval Office, I think he's going to be more inclined to follow his own lead and a little less do as he's told.
And I think that's one of the reasons there was such vocal opposition to him coming from a lot of the vested interest.
Now, as far as McCain being put up there in order to lose against Obama, I don't think that was the case.
I mean, McCain was all but gone when Joe Lieberman came in and said, I support him, and all the money and the media attention came in.
And I think the Republicans had a strategy that they were going to run McCain against Hillary, and that they could beat Hillary.
And I think McCain would have beat Hillary.
But I think that both Republican and Democrat Uh, strategists were paying so much attention to Ron Paul, they weren't really studying Barack Obama until he had already got himself a good, solid foundation.
And, uh, the bottom line is that McCain just keeps making mistake after mistake after mistake in his campaign.
Not only just Sarah Palin, but the way they approached the negative, uh, campaigning, the way they tried to manage the Internet, uh, with this top-down sponsored website approach, uh, versus Barack Obama.
Barack Obama got right into the social networking and just really comprehended how that was all working.
And again, it really comes down to, if you look at the speeches that we saw at the two conventions, you know, Barack Obama does have the ability to inspire his audiences with the idea that it's possible for things to be better.
alex jones
Yeah, and to sell us on a whole agenda.
of tyranny.
After eight years of Bill Clinton, Republicans wed themselves to George Bush, supported everything he did, and brought us all that tyranny.
It's dangerous.
That's why they staged 9-11, was to get all of this political support.
You've got Joe Biden clearly involved with the head of Pakistani intelligence, clearly involved intimately in the 9-11 attacks.
It's the same military-industrial complex that's in real control.
You don't see Barack Obama saying, repeal the Patriot Act, stop the torture, Well, you know, there is no ideal solution in this race since Ron Paul got, you know, blocked out.
michael rivero
And I've not been shy about saying that.
When Ron Paul was running, I absolutely supported and backed him.
alex jones
But, Mike, that's not the point I'm making.
I understand.
I understand you're saying you're going with what you've got.
My whole point is...
We have a 9% approval rating for Congress.
The people are finally getting it all controlled.
I mean, you always say the best way to bring down a dictator is to make him act like a dictator.
Instead, you're going to have 40-something percent of the public that's going to end up voting for Barack Obama, a record 80-plus percent turnout, who will now support whatever he says because he's their man and they had a, you know, tightly contested race and are wedded to him psychologically.
It's going to be horrible!
michael rivero
Well, I don't see it that way, obviously.
I mean, we saw the same phenomenon when Bush got into power, but, you know, obviously, I think because of alternative radio, because of shows like yours on our website, I think the political honeymoon for Barack Obama is going to be a heck of a lot shorter, because the American people are very upset, and Barack Obama's coming in at a time when the economy is in serious trouble.
You know, if he doesn't show positive results for everybody in the first couple of weeks, he's going to have a miserable, miserable...
alex jones
Mike, that's the thing!
He actually was against giving any of the bailout money to the American people, and I'm against socialism, but if you're going to only give it to foreign banks, you might as well give it to the people.
And he is for even bigger banker takeovers here.
unidentified
So that's what I'm saying.
alex jones
I mean, he's doing everything that's actually unpopular with the public.
They're just hoping things are going to be different.
Stay there, Mike.
We'll continue to discuss this and take phone calls whenever we have Webster Tarpley pop in with you.
That should be some lively debate and discussion when we get back after this quick break with Mike Rivero.
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alex jones
You know about the globalist agenda.
All I'm saying is that He's a front man for the same interest.
Carbon taxes, domestic spy forces, banker takeover, empowerment.
I mean, it's all the same thing.
And we've got the Democrats are going to be in control of everything.
We'll be going into some of the numbers and exit polls that are coming out in the next segment.
And then we're going to have a bunch of people, 40-something percent of the public, that Well, you know, basically what you're saying about Barack Obama can also be said about John McCain.
michael rivero
It really is a push between the two of them.
And so what you need to do is look at the places where they're going to be different.
And as I said before, the reason I started pulling away from McCain and leaning toward Obama was Yes, they're both in contact with the same movers and shakers.
It's a question of enthusiasm.
And McCain, I don't sense any hesitation on his part at all.
He'll just do as he's told.
And I think that Obama, once he's in office, he will drag his heels a lot more.
And I know that's a very subtle difference on which to base.
Uh, you know, uh, a choice like this.
But, you know, when you, when you talk about all this New World Order stuff and the influence and the buying of the politicians, and yes, it's on both sides of the aisle, it's on both sides of, you know, of the campaign, so you, you have to just say, it's a push.
It's a push.
Where are they different?
And let's look at that.
Now, again, I really wanted Ron Paul to be there.
alex jones
Listen, I understand.
They're going to have an inaugural bombing to make him look like a tough guy.
He's going to invade some country, probably Pakistan.
and I got a bad feeling.
Again, I'm not saying vote for McCain.
I'm just pointing out.
Get ready, folks.
We're going to get change.
It's going to be tyranny.
michael rivero
Well, I hope you're wrong, obviously.
But time will solve that mystery.
The bottom line is I'm convinced that McCain, because of the way he ran his campaign, that's the way he's going to run the country.
We're getting all these reports about vote fraud from across the country.
People are going into voters' lines and telling Democrats they're supposed to vote tomorrow.
We're getting this from all across the country.
This election is not the study in foregone conclusions the media is trying to pretend it is.
But I'm a great believer.
How the candidate runs his campaign is how they're going to run the country.
And looking at the way McCain ran his campaign, it's not a pretty picture.
alex jones
Well, all I'm saying looks like Barack Obama's going to win.
And so let's just start now saying we want to demand they repeal the warrantless spying on American people.
They've announced a bunch of other brigades that are going to be joining the homeland.
We need to tell...
I mean, Mike, you're not suddenly for troops on the streets because it's Obama, right?
michael rivero
No, I'm absolutely not.
And again, these new troops that are joining the current ones on the street, that's coming out of the Bush White House.
And remember, even if Obama wins today, And it's out of your and my hand anyway.
The voters are going to the polls.
alex jones
We've got three months more.
We've got three months more.
michael rivero
Yeah, we've got three months more of Bush.
And if Obama wins, he's going to want to set things up so that Obama and the Democrats take a huge, huge fall.
So, you know, we could see the corporate giveaways go until there's just absolutely nothing in the Treasury when the Democrats...
alex jones
Wait a minute.
Barack Obama has been...
He helped get it passed in the House a month ago.
On that Friday, he went in there.
He went on TV.
He said, I'm the champion of the bailout.
Mike, let me ask you this question.
Who's got more Wall Street money, 3 to 1?
michael rivero
At the moment, Barack Obama, but the reason for that is it's been obvious to a lot of insiders that he is likely to win, and everybody wants to give money to the winner so that they're owed the favors.
The same people who gave money to Barack Obama also gave it to John McCain.
And originally, when Barack Obama was just starting out, most of his funding came from the grassroots, and the big money people were going to Hillary, and they were going to John McCain.
As soon as Obama won the primary and took it away from Hillary, that's when all the Wall Street people said, oh, this guy could really do it.
We'd better get on his good side.
And, you know, the whole rationalization for allowing funding of the candidates instead of, you know, a flat public grant The campaign is, the ability to raise money is supposed to be a measure of popular support.
And it's crooked and it's corrupt and there's a lot of problems with it.
But it's, you know...
alex jones
That's my next question, Mike.
We know there's election fraud coast-to-coast going on by different, you know, little local viceroys, and there's also fraud orchestrated nationally by how they announce their results through Voter News Services, now under a new name.
This is going to cement, in people's minds, the left has seen it as they've been cheated.
So, if it was really George Bush who stole two elections, how come they can't steal it again for John McCain?
Won't that be an endorsement by the electronic fraud system of Barack Obama?
michael rivero
Uh, vote fraud only works when the races are close.
It can't reverse a landslider, it's too obvious, and I think that's what everybody believes is gonna happen today.
The margin is gonna be too great to reverse it in the courts or in the machines.
alex jones
And regardless, it's going to legitimize the voting system, and people that were awake are gonna go to sleep, and we'll all just dance down the yellow brick road with our savior, our lord, Barack Obama.
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folks, we are back live.
Thank you for joining us.
Let me introduce our two guests with this piece of audio for everybody out there who is tuning in to us today.
Millions watching on RTL Listen, it's always thought-provoking to have somewhat of a debate, and I just put this together today.
In fact, we finally got a hold of Webster Tarpley about 30 minutes ago.
I wasn't even sure I was going to have him pop in with Mike Rivero today.
Mike's a great guy who I really respect.
You know, I met with Willie Nelson for about four hours with Jesse Ventura.
Ventura's against both candidates and the false left-right paradigm, but, you know, even Willie Nelson, who's anti-New World Order, has a lot of courage.
He's just so sick of George Bush, he says, well, let's just give Obama a try.
Let's see what happens, and then it turns out bad will come out against him.
And you know, he wants to support a black guy.
He wants to, you know, have good civil rights.
He wants to go, he wants to see black folks have that pride.
He, you know, he wants to see wars end.
He wants, he wants to hope.
I'm just sorry.
What I see from Barack Obama is actually the whole new order agenda that every president for 40 years has been following for 45 years, intensifying.
And the Republican that comes after him, it'll be even worse.
So I wanted to bring up Webster Tarpley for the next 30 minutes, maybe 5 minutes to the next hour with both of them, so we have a full half hour.
Webster Tarpley, who is of course what I'd call a progressive, kind of a mainline liberal in the whole system and thought of Mr. Roosevelt during the Depression, which I actually really disagree with overall.
But I respect him as well, so I disagree with both these men fundamentally on some issues, but I also respect them and believe that they have great intellects and positions that need to be looked at to have a full debate, not be closed-minded.
So let's bring up Webster Tarbley.
We've had Mike Rivero on for the last 25 minutes or so, telling us why he's for Obama, that he's not giving him a honeymoon, but he hopes.
Tarbley, just in a nutshell, and I want to go back, you know, tit-for-tat, back and forth with you and Mike Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com, of course.
Now, we have Webster Tarpley of the unauthorized biography of George H.W. Bush and the unauthorized biography of Barack H. Obama.
He dislikes both men.
To tell us what we're really dealing with here, with what looks like a huge landslide for what is being called the new president of the world, the savior of Earth by mainstream media, Barack Obama.
webster tarpley
Alex, you have to stop calling me a liberal.
I'm not a liberal in any sense of the word.
Liberal means two things.
That you think that bankers rule the world.
I don't.
And you think there's no such thing as right and wrong?
And I don't agree with that either.
I am an American system traditionalist.
You want to call me something?
I'm a Hamiltonian.
alex jones
Okay? Well, I understand the Hamiltonian.
My goodness.
I'll call it that.
webster tarpley
Alexander Hamilton.
That's the American mainline.
alex jones
Yeah, I know who Alexander Hamilton is.
Whatever. You support...
Roosevelt. And in my book, that's classic, mainline, you know, U.S. Democrat, whatever you want to call it.
webster tarpley
This has nothing to do with somebody like Pelosi.
In other words, Roosevelt and Pelosi are polar opposites.
And that's also the problem with Obama.
Roosevelt is somebody who fought the Wall Street finance oligarchs and defeated them repeatedly.
He got re-elected four times by the American people.
This indicates something profound.
Obama, of course, is a puppet, carefully prepared, By the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group.
One of the reasons he was chosen is that his blackness gives a kind of cover.
alex jones
Left cover.
webster tarpley
Left cover, if you like.
Radical cover.
alex jones
Let me just stop you, Tarbly.
I don't want to get into an argument over little issues.
But fine.
American traditionalists, you've said that.
And absolutely, he's got the heavy hitters.
He's got the real global elite behind him.
Finish up.
You've got two minutes and I'm going to go to Mike.
webster tarpley
All right, I think Obama's the most dangerous presidential candidate that we've seen.
He is in the same tradition as Jimmy Carter, but he's about a hundred times worthy.
He's similar to Carter in the sense that he was a carefully chosen creature of the trilateral commission, Bilderberger Group, Rand Corporation.
We have decades and decades of right-wing reactionary rule in this country, punctuated every now and then by these abortive interludes where we have a left-wing demagogue who comes in and uses slightly different slogans.
Generally, human rights slogans to try to relaunch imperialism in the world.
This is what Obama will do, try to give imperialism a facelift, try to convince people that American imperialism is not what they've learned that it is, but rather that it's something fresh and new and progressive.
His main tasks will be kicking the Chinese out of Africa, if he can, and courting confrontation with Russia and China.
And naturally, since Big New Brzezinski is running the show, they will be using Proxies.
They'll be using pawns and puppets and kamikaze states in the same way that they used Georgia against Russia.
They'd like to use Iran for that and really any other place that they can dupe and mobilize on the internal front.
And really all I'm saying is what Joe Biden said in Seattle.
Biden said two things.
There'll be a confrontation with Russia in the first six months.
The righteousness of the US position will be in doubt.
It means that Obama reopens the door to false flag Operations for them.
And then also supporting aggression like Saakashvili.
The other perspective that Biden gave in Seattle was a 12-month perspective that Obama will be so hated because of his economic decisions, which will be those of draconian, crushing, brutal austerity.
Not to redistribute the wealth.
The Republican propaganda is crazy on this point.
Obama's not going to redistribute the wealth to the little people.
The wealth goes to his owners.
To Rockefeller, Soros, Goldman Sachs, the people who pay for him.
He is a Wall Street deployment in every way.
Two other things.
In terms of fascism, you have to think about human rights in this country.
In other words, free speech.
Will we be able to broadcast?
Under Bush-Cheney, I don't know about others, but I've been broadcasting, and I know Alex has, and And I think Michael...
alex jones
No, they've been openly discussing, and Democratic senators and House members are on record talking about the Fairness Doctrine.
Right, and we have the Obama police in Missouri on record themselves saying, if you lie about Obama, we'll arrest you.
Stop there.
I really want to go to Mike Rivera.
Mike, you want to go back and forth here?
michael rivero
Well, I want to respond to some of the things that Webster was saying, and my first comment is that the Bilderbergers and the Trilateralists and, for that matter, the CFR and the rest of those groups, They play the game very much like the Wall Street financiers.
They tend to back all of the people they think have the potential of pulling off a run for the White House.
So it's not a case that they're in a position to say, okay, you're it and you will automatically win.
Because the whole country right now is really badly factionalized.
And there is no one group that is unquestionably in power.
As you say, you've got the Rockefellers on one side, and they're fighting against this group over here, and they war amongst themselves, and we get to sit on the sidelines and watch it.
So the bottom line is, my read of the situation was that the groups that Webster is talking about really did pin their initial hopes on Hillary Clinton, because she was a woman, she was going to carry the woman's vote, and you know, we saw a lot of vote fraud during the Democratic primaries that, you know, was favoring Hillary.
So I think You know, if you get into the realm of secret backers, I think they were leaning really more toward Hillary than Obama.
But Obama pulled off an upset in the primaries, and at that point everybody started saying, well, let's get on his good side, let's buy his interest.
Now, that's not to say that Barack Obama is not owing a lot of favors to a lot of the same people that Bush did, Hillary did, and McCain does.
But I don't think he was the number one choice of the people behind the scenes.
And again, this gets back to the issue that once he's in office, he may very much turn out to be like John Kennedy.
John Kennedy went into office owing a lot of favors.
He owed a lot of favors to organized crime for Chicago.
He owed a lot of favors to various other groups.
And once he was in office, he said, OK, I don't have to really take care of them anymore.
And he sicked his younger brother at the Justice Department against organized crime.
He basically started saying, okay, I don't need the CIA anymore, and he really angered a lot of people, which unfortunately led to the tragedy in Dallas.
alex jones
We don't see that, Mike, coming out of Obama.
He's talking about youth brigades, supporting groups in America, supporting this whole agenda, but Tarpley, what about his point that they did clearly, in New Hampshire, and we had eyewitnesses there and people that were non-partisan covering it, they did cheat Paul, and they did cheat Barack Obama, they tried to cheat him, You know, they vote fraud all the time by all sides, and the result of the election is a vector sum of vote fraud, as I said at the time.
webster tarpley
Today, the biggest vote fraud is in favor of Obama.
The intelligence community is pro-Obama.
The FBI and the CIA love Obama, and they will go down the line for Obama, because that is the order coming out of Wall Street.
However, the idea that Obama is some kind of a free agent with free will, I think is tragically wrong.
My finding is that Obama has been brainwashed, if you will.
He has been fostered and prepared since his time at Columbia, 1981 to 1983, which is likely when he was picked up by his big new bridge in...
alex jones
Yeah, he's been under deep globalist tutelage.
webster tarpley
Absolutely. That's probably when he met Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorn, the weatherman, terrorist, bomber, killer...
alex jones
Which, again, are foundation-protected.
webster tarpley
Pardon me?
alex jones
Foundation creation.
webster tarpley
Yeah, these are funded operations of the foundations.
If you look at Obama, everybody in his personal life is a provocateur of some kind.
You've got the foundation-funded racist provocateurs, Jeremiah Wright and Flager and Meeks and Dwight Hopkins and Otis Moss at this so-called church.
You've got criminal elements.
alex jones
Of course, you've got Rescoe, Ouchy, and Altamari in this state of That's only his foundation left cover, as well, because of where he came from.
webster tarpley
Well, he's also then got the fact that the foundations are his family business.
His mother worked for the Ford.
He's from the Gamaliel, the Joyce, the Woods, and the Annenberg, above all.
And his friend Bernardine Dorn gets money from them.
alex jones
Look, I can't vote for either one of these guys with conscience.
I mean, I mean, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran, McCain stumbling around, Palin, the entire shoelaces, I mean...
webster tarpley
Which is the stronger imperialist?
In other words, which is the more formidable imperialist enemy?
In other words, you're going to be fighting either one of them.
alex jones
No, I agree.
They're going to be able to get a lot more through on Obama.
40 plus percent of the country, it looks like, is actually going to vote for him.
And that's a total of 80 plus percent turnout.
And then they're not ever going to want to admit they were wrong.
Now, Mike, if it turns out, you know, He's wrong.
I mean, Mike has said he's going to come out against Obama.
michael rivero
Mike? I'm sorry.
Yeah, if once Obama is in the White House, he can't expect any favors from me because, you know, I'm going to hold him right to the fire and say, OK, you're in there.
You got to do what you promised you were going to do and only what you promised you were going to do.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
unidentified
And he's already broken every promise he's ever made before the election.
alex jones
Now, hold on.
michael rivero
I want to go back.
I want to go back and talk about a couple of things.
First of all, the vote fraud that is being reported, at least to my show and my website, and certainly on the media, is overwhelmingly going from the Democrats to the Republicans at this point.
webster tarpley
How about ACORN?
michael rivero
ACORN, that has come and gone as an issue.
Now I want to get back to this other issue here about the Whether Obama is a puppet or whether he'd be his own person like Kennedy was, if Obama wins with a significant landslide, he's going to look at that surplus of popular support and figure that he can take it out for a test drive, and that will give him the political strength to be able to go out and say, okay, let's renegotiate what the plan was going to be.
unidentified
And, you know, again, this is going back to what Kennedy did.
webster tarpley
Or is he not a completely controlled puppet, 1,000% owned and controlled by these financiers?
michael rivero
It's impossible to say at this point until he's in office.
webster tarpley
So you have no evidence whatsoever that he's been in office?
He's been in the Senate.
Has he ever done anything to buck the establishment?
michael rivero
Every time we put a new president in office, we put him in on the basis of the promises that are given to us by the mainstream media, and then we have to wait and see what they're actually going to do.
Mr. Carpley...
alex jones
Hey, Webster, let me finish for one minute, and we'll go back to you for two minutes.
Go ahead.
michael rivero
Okay. Yeah, I don't cut you off, and please accord me the same result.
The bottom line is, I agree.
When we elect a president, we're not really going to know what they're going to do until they are in office.
Sometimes it's a very unfortunate shock, as it was in the case of George Bush.
Sometimes it's a pleasant surprise, like it was with Kennedy.
But the bottom line is, when they walk through that door of the Oval Office and realize for the first time it's theirs, it's going to have an effect on them.
And, you know, with McCain, the sense that I get is that he's perfectly happy with the world as it is right now.
He voted along with George Bush, you know, 95% of the time.
With Barack Obama coming in from a less-than-traditional background in American politics, I think that The possibility is definitely going to be there that he may just sit there and say, OK, we promised change.
What can we change?
And it's a very...
Webster's turn.
alex jones
Webster, go ahead.
webster tarpley
This reproduces all of the pathetic illusions and delusions about the presidency that people have had.
The U.S.
presidency is a puppet position, and if you don't want to be a puppet, you've got to fight for it, and you've got to have some track record.
Obama is controllable.
The Resco indictments, the Chicago-Illinois bipartisan combine, mean.
that he can be put in jail within seventy two hours at any time he's also not born in the united states he's born in kenya natural i don't think you need a lot and we have you know i'm going to be thrown out of the country and put in jail at any time therefore the control mechanisms are clear i think you're blinded by hatred of hillary clinton and you're so blinded by hatred of bush and cheney which i can understand That you're not able to see what Obama actually represents.
It's like you have a desire to be duped.
You're inventing stories that have absolutely no basis in evidence.
In fact, we do know what Obama will do.
We know exactly what he'll do because we can study his backers, his controllers, his, uh, the people who make policy for him.
We can tell, you know, what Richard Holbrooke will do at the State Department, what Mark Brzezinski will do at the National Security Council, and so on down the line.
Then there is this question of fascism.
The Obama supporters, the Kool-Aid drinkers, the lemmings, the cultists, and the personality freaks are the closest thing to an actual fascist mass movement we've ever had in the United States.
They come with left cover.
People do not understand fascism.
They think it's top-down.
It's not top-down.
It's grassroots and bottom-up.
We had Schumer this morning saying, talk radio is pornography.
Pornography is regulated.
We're going to regulate talk radio.
That means they're going to come after...
alex jones
By the way, I saw that on the stair-stepper.
webster tarpley
They're going to come and try to come after people like us.
The situation of civil liberties under Obama will be dramatically worse.
alex jones
Okay, let's just stop there.
We're going to come back after the break and try to be even here with the time.
This is all very informative and thought-provoking.
Yeah, Mike, the Fairness Doctrine, I mean, it's on record.
They've got a whole nest of top Democrats saying they're coming after Talk Radio.
michael rivero
I can imagine.
The issue is the Fairness Doctrine has not been enforced for quite a long time.
I'm trying to remember when that was actually rescinded.
I think we need to get the Fairness Doctrine back in.
That's the reason why Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage dominate the airwaves.
alex jones
Mike, it's all selectively enforced.
They don't allow anybody to have a real editorial program.
It's all just got to be milquetoast reporting what AP says.
You understand this is targeted at us, bro.
michael rivero
Well, I'm not feeling that.
I mean, I think the Fairness Doctrine, if it went back in, would open up opportunities for the rest of us.
alex jones
Alright, stay there.
Stay there.
We got a break.
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And I looked at him and I said that line to him.
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And he had these seashells in the walls of his log cabin.
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Talking about the sun will burn into a cinder, and maybe I should tell more of that story some other time.
I've spent a lot of time with both our guests.
Okay, we just ended up, I believe, at the end of the last segment with Tarpley talking when we're Well, I just want to go back and remind everybody that there's been a lot of swift voting, a lot of absolute misstatements made in this campaign.
michael rivero
And the one that I can personally deal with is this idea that Barack Obama was not born in Hawaii.
Now, about a week ago, a week and a half ago, WorldNet Daily ran a story by Jerome Corsi that said the governor of Hawaii had sealed Obama's birth certificate to prevent anybody from looking at it.
Now, I live here in Hawaii.
I know Governor Linda Lingle, who, by the way, is a Republican, not a Democrat, not likely to be covering anything up, and she built Basically, her office issued a statement.
The Jerome Corsi article was completely fraudulent.
She did not seal Barack Obama's birth certificate.
All birth certificates are confidential because of the problem of identity theft, but she set it up so that any media that want to contact a state official, I forget which one she designated, will confirm the birth certificate for them in terms of the content in there.
We found the birth announcement in both Honolulu newspaper archives.
We've located a witness who saw the family there at the hospital at the correct time.
This is one of the issues that we know has been an absolute, complete fraud.
I mean, does it really make sense that the Democratic National Committee would let Barack Obama get into the presidential contest at all without, you know, checking the bonfire?
alex jones
Well, they could use it as leverage, but briefly, Tarbly, you say it's true he was born in Kenya.
To me, it's a bit nebulous that you have his grandmother saying he was born there.
webster tarpley
Where is the birth certificate?
If I am Obama, I am asking to get my hands on the thermonuclear button.
And we've had Jimmy Who in 1976 was a catastrophe, and now we've got Barky Who, and we don't even know where he comes from.
If Obama had any regard, a scintilla of respect for the American people, he would say, American people, here is the full, detailed, vault copy.
In other words, the answer to all of this is, Where's his birth certificate?
He doesn't publish it.
michael rivero
It's been on the web for weeks.
unidentified
You're not putting it forward.
webster tarpley
He doesn't have it.
michael rivero
It's been on the web for weeks.
alex jones
Okay, let's end this show with Mike.
Let's end this show and come back with Webster Tarbley.
You've got the last minute.
michael rivero
It's been on the web for weeks.
The people who are trying to get a live birth, they keep saying it's a fake, it's a fake, it's a fake.
And it's a return of the Napoleonic Code.
They keep saying the birth certificate he's provided is a fake.
He has to prove that he didn't fake it.
That's the Napoleonic Code.
webster tarpley
We have the Napoleonic Code.
If you want to be president, you want to get your hands on the...
alex jones
You're going to have time in a minute.
unidentified
Finish up.
...
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alex jones
Mike, finish up.
michael rivero
Okay. Basically, you know, Barack Obama has provided his birth certificate.
This is a non-issue by a campaign that doesn't want to talk about the wars.
Doesn't want to talk about the economy, and I think what has really turned off most voters in the United States, it's not that they're voting for Obama, they're just sick of politics as usual, they're sick of swift voting, they're sick of Karl Rove-style campaigning, and it's turned them off.
alex jones
Yeah, well it's certainly a rejection of the neocons and the staged terror and the rest of it.
We'll just see what happens with this new bunch, and we'll be there together.
Mike Rivera, WhatReallyHappened.com, thanks for coming on with us.
My website's InfoWars.com.
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alex jones
I like Mike, and I've tried to build him up.
I got him a show here on Genesis.
I invited you over here a long time ago, but the point is that it scares me that he's giving Barack Obama so much of a benefit of the doubt, when clearly they're saying they're going to stage some big event for him.
He's going to do things that are unpopular with the Democrats.
He's talking about cutting teacher pay.
My point is he isn't, you know, the mainline liberal.
He claims he is.
He's saying bigger corporate bailouts.
I mean, McCain was for actually bailing out Ford and GM.
He is against it, just like Bush is, or Barack Obama is.
He is for none of the money going to the American people.
He has four times the Goldman Sachs money, three times the Wall Street.
And, you know, when I bring that up to Mike, Mike, just based...
I've heard him on his own show saying that McCain's gotten more money in the day.
You have to admit that wasn't the case.
I mean, this is an example of people hating George Bush for eight years and then not understanding that at a primitive level, they are just being manipulated here.
And like you said, Obama is a complete puppet.
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I think it's partly being blinded by hatred.
Hatred of Bush, Cheney, and the neocons.
And again, this is all understandable, but it's never good to be blinded by hatred.
Christianity actually has a good point on these things.
The other thing would be hatred of Hillary Clinton, which also, he seems to think we're back in the primaries and not in the general election.
alex jones
Well, I tend to agree with him that she was the anointed one, she's the one Limbaugh tried to get elected, she's the one Rupert Murdoch gave money to.
They did want to have Hillary in there.
webster tarpley
Yeah, but look, look at the mainline, trilateral, Bilderberger, Rand Corporation, Rockefeller, Soros.
That was Obama the entire time.
Naturally, they have to bet on several horses because there is this possibility That's the problem of getting through the primaries and so forth.
alex jones
Well, what does scare me is I'm getting threats and things, and people saying I'm a racist because I don't like Obama, and that has nothing to do with it.
I mean, I post the video of his youth brigades, and people call up saying, what's wrong with youth brigades?
And then you heard Mike, what's wrong with the fairness doctrine where you can't have any political editorial comments on any radio?
I mean...
webster tarpley
I found that astounding.
Look, there are two things working.
The arguments about the Obama birth certificate.
Again, the only thing I want to see is the full, detailed, vault copy of Obama's birth certificate.
Until I see that, he is an illegal alien.
And Phil Berg is still waiting for his response from Judge...
alex jones
Well, I'm sure I disagree with you that...
That that's the biggest issue.
For me, it's the carbon tax, the eugenics.
webster tarpley
No, there are many issues.
We could, we would go through, you know, we'd need several hours to name all the issues, and we can do them in priority order.
Here's the question.
It's the Annenberg fact check that is out there arguing that Obama has put this issue to rest.
Now, Annenberg...
alex jones
He worked for him.
webster tarpley
This is a foundation, and that is, that is what Bill Ayers worked for.
The main power inside the Annenberg is the terrorist bomber Bill Ayers.
And again, These weathermen don't go away so easily for me.
I saw them destroy SDS.
I saw them destroy the student movement.
I saw them destroy the peace movement.
Other foundation provocateurs destroyed the Martin Luther King movement after King had been assassinated.
These are wreckers.
These are the grave diggers of any popular movement.
And if you put somebody like Obama into a position of leadership, he will destroy any potential.
He's already destroyed the impeachment movement.
And the peace movement.
Obama has already accomplished that.
So, I want to say, Alex, I don't get money from any foundation.
I think it might be useful for people to make a formal declaration.
Are you foundation-funded?
Because a lot of our left-liberal friends, right?
A lot of the people who write about fascism, right?
The various Naomi Wolfs and Naomi Clines of the world.
These are people who I believe are funded by foundations, certainly quite a number of them are.
The other question is the emotional need that is satisfied by being part of what I regard as a fascist mass movement.
In other words, it makes you feel good to be a part of a big social movement, a fused group if you like.
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Alright, we've got Webster Todd for another five minutes or so.
I'm going to play a clip from Max Keiser on international television.
He'll join us for an hour.
We're going to have Beth Harris pop in briefly.
And then, of course, we're going to have pop in briefly I mean, I said I'd take phone calls.
I'll definitely take your calls for Max Keiser, I promise.
I've just got so many guests, so much analysis.
But I will take your phone calls at 1-800-259-9231.
But I hope it's on the economy or the wars or the election.
And, you know, not on chupacabras or anything.
Webster, I agree with you.
I see the whole establishment behind Barack Obama.
I see him announcing Total carbon taxes, bankrupting our energy systems.
Those are his words.
He represents the Club of Rome, the CFR, the Trilateral Commission.
He's surrounded by insiders.
He is slick.
They use Bush as kind of their bad guy, their front guy.
Use the neocons as their birdcage liner.
Now they're putting a new birdcage liner.
They're getting all the liberals ready for huge quote disappointments.
He's saying massive increases in defense budget.
So they're going to have the right wing supporting him and all the war mongering, and the mainline limousine left, the poverty pimps supporting him.
And well, I mean, let's play this clip.
This is the audio, not just in the Chicago Tribune, but the audio.
First time they ever endorsed a Democrat, by the way.
See, they're an establishment.
They're Wall Street.
They're the mercantile.
They endorsed him.
All the big boys.
So let's go ahead and play this clip.
of the youth brigades, and you read the fine print of this, you can read more into it.
This is literally domestic spies in uniform spying on you.
Here it is.
barack obama
We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set.
We've gotta have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.
alex jones
Now let's stop right there.
$1,055,000,000 defense budget this year.
It's actually bigger than that, but that's the supplemental in the main package.
$1,055,000,000.
Now, he said just as big, just as strong domestic.
Well, that's what they've been setting up since continuity of government in 1984, even before that.
And then the youth brigades as part of Secure Corps, part of AmeriCorps.
And, you know, McCain proposed similar things.
The point is, is that Folks, you're going to get changed.
It's going to be hellish.
And it wasn't Webster Tarpley who said this.
It wasn't Philbert.
It wasn't Alex Jones.
I've tried to stay out of this until I just couldn't ignore the facts anymore.
It's amazing!
And don't think we're trying to get him to win today.
I know Tarpley hopes so.
But it doesn't matter.
The point is, maybe we need total tyranny.
Maybe this is the medicine all you idiot liberals need.
Who are going to suddenly love wiretaps and police state and torture.
All the things he's going to continue.
And more wars.
Not less.
They're just going to depoliticize it and not make it left right anymore in the world, just be forgotten about.
That's what they said they're going to do.
But this is true fascism that I see materializing, as Webster saw before I did.
And it's coming in the form of a black man.
He isn't going to run a single thing.
He's going to be the titular head, the figurehead.
Webster, I could rant and rant about this all day.
The own people on my owninfowars.com.
In the stories we post about him calling for this giant, and if you read more, it's a youth brigade.
They're on there saying, so what?
What's wrong with that?
What's wrong with the Fairness Doctrine?
What's wrong with having spies everywhere?
I mean, my God!
I mean, you know, people are so sold out to hating Bush, just like they were sold out to hating Clinton, they supported Bush.
Now it's the same psychology, but worse, Tarpley.
webster tarpley
Paid bloggers from Bangalore, India and the Gaza Strip, they're third-world sweatshop bloggers that Obama has hired to send in.
Now, obviously one of the things that fascism does is it says that the one-party state is going to control everything.
The political party, the trade union, the women's group, the sports club, the bowling league, all of this has to be brought under the national fascist party.
And then you have a youth organization.
Mussolini had one called Balila.
Of course, the squadristi, right, was how he got into power.
Hitler had the Sturmabteilung, and he had this other organization, Hayat, Hitlerjugend.
alex jones
Yeah, we're going to see if Naomi Wolf and others suddenly don't like the police state when Obama gets in.
Because they're all saying martial law under Bush.
No, no, no, no.
Martial law through the continuum of the military-industrial complex system.
webster tarpley
I would say it's fascism through a gun.
It's a gutter movement of hooligans, thugs, fervently idealistic students, and hysterical, crazed left liberals.
And the way out of it is, defeat Obama today, defeat anybody who voted for that bailout, come out of this with divided government.
You have two gangs.
One is more powerful and more dangerous than the other.
The only hope is to play one gang against the other, institutionalize that for four years, and try to get a breathing space To work out an actual programmatic alternative, which in my view is going to have to be New Deal measures to crush Wall Street and bring on an economic recovery.
alex jones
Webster isn't going to happen.
They're Messiah.
They're calling him President of the World in Newsweek.
The Messiah, the leader, Jesus.
They're calling him Moses.
webster tarpley
Think what a wonderful thing it'll be if he's defeated.
People, that will be regarded as a victory for the American people.
alex jones
I'll tell you why I know he's going to win and why I know he's the establishment man.
Fox News for two days when I watch you on the treadmill on the stair-stepper in the garage.
Keep saying, well, I guess Palin's going to be back home now.
She's going to be happy.
Well, you know, he's going to lose.
And they have Rove coming out saying he's going to lose, McCain.
They have all these other strategists, you know, the focus group people who have been caught staging him, saying no way McCain can win.
And then, so I see the neocons even supporting Obama.
webster tarpley
Of course, they're a bunch of unemployed adventurers and they're trying to attach themselves to Obama for jobs and careers.
alex jones
But how can the left not see that?
webster tarpley
Because of what I said before, joining a fascist mass movement fulfills immediate emotional needs which these individuals have.
They feel that they're alienated, they feel that they're isolated, and they feel that by becoming a part of the mystical body of the nation and partaking of the mystical authority of this charismatic leader, that they can somehow become whole.
alex jones
And that's what gives the government...
webster tarpley
in the springtime was we have broken souls and it is the messiah obama who can touch our broken souls and make us hold again in other words we can overcome alienation now this is right out of mine comp there's an entire not clear chapter in mind comp that talks precisely about this so nothing new under That's what Hitler did, is he energized the grassroots, but Webster, you're absolutely right.
alex jones
I mean, even Mainline News is implying he's world leader now.
and he's looting everything stealing everything but because he's the anti bush it's okay when he's really lockstep with all of it the idea that bush is the worst that the uh...
webster tarpley
that the world holds is a very very superficial point of view people should let their imaginations run wild a little bit and think about how things could get ten times worse than bush a hundred times worse than bush one is under obama brzezinski we got a confrontation with russia and you get a topo and i see the end on your stack which So far under Bush, you have not had.
And forced labor, and hyperinflation, and kinds of economic sacrifice with this cap-and-trade idiocy, this global warming hoax, things that Bush and the Neon Cards never dreamed of.
Bush said, go to the shopping mall and buy things and support your country that way.
The Obamazoids say that was obscene, that was a scandal.
They want austerity, sacrifice.
They want to cut the standard of living in half.
Remember, you can't set your government where you want it.
alex jones
You can't do what you want.
they put the police state apparatus in under bush now they're bringing in the savior and i feel so sorry for everybody because folks it's going to get bad i really feel sad for black folks that are trying to have some pride in this and i don't blame them but they have no idea this is a eugenicist yeah this is a evil very very very wicked system webster i want it get you back up tomorrow for about thirty minutes in the aftermath of all When is it good for you tomorrow?
webster tarpley
You tell me, anytime, but the same time as today, if you like.
alex jones
Yeah, let's just have you on at noon for 30 minutes tomorrow, and the annoyed one's going to be put in one way or the other with the voting machines, and then that will cement to the left that the voting machines are supposedly legitimate.
It's just on every front.
This is it.
This is New World Order trickery 101.
Webster Tarbley, thanks for talking to us.
webster tarpley
I wouldn't count the American people out just yet, but remember Obama, the postmodern coup, and Barack H. Obama, the unauthorized biography at Amazon.com, as well as at your store.
alex jones
I'll see you at the North Pole, Tarbley.
We're up there in a FEMA camp.
webster tarpley
North Pole, Alaska.
I've actually been there.
alex jones
Take care, pal.
Oh, man.
Unbelievable. I went through this four years, eight years ago with the Bush thing.
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All these Republicans, we thought you were good, we hate you now.
Now the liberals, we thought you were a liberal, what's wrong?
alex jones
Oh, come on folks.
I mean, what, is there not anything you won't buy?
Let's go ahead and play Max Keiser, part of it, on international television.
We'll come back to him after the break.
Here it is.
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Well, joining me now on the phone is Max Keiser, the journalist and broadcaster live from Paris in France.
Max, Goldman and Morgan now subject to regulation.
Isn't this what critics of their highly geared dealing have been demanding for years?
I'm not so sure, Ashton.
I think this is a great way for them now to hide any close examination of their books.
I think this is actually in the cards from the beginning because, as you know, Morgan and J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs have been involved in a tremendous amount of, let's call it euphemistically, money laundering over the years.
And now by becoming a commercial bank, I believe that this is going to insulate themselves from any real close examination because they're going to be behind the firewall, behind Hank Paulson's firewall.
You know, Hank Paulson has effectively hijacked the U.S. financial system.
He's no different than the 9-11 hijackers, as far as I'm concerned.
He's a financial terrorist.
And he's taken the U.S. banking system to the edge of the abyss, all for the benefit of the shareholders and his cronies at Goldman and J.P. Morgan.
The U.S. taxpayer, the U.S. citizen, unfortunately, is going to get the short end of the stick.
But doesn't the new regulatory provision, because they will now be holding companies, mean that we can expect loads of SEC, U.S. Treasury officials all flying around the world to Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs' offices, checking all the records, interviewing the staff, checking on probity?
Yes, but at the same time as this coup d'etat has taken place and given Hank Paul some dictatorial powers to determine what is fact, the information that should be disclosed or not disclosed, combine that with Bush's dictatorial powers to declare a state of emergency at the drop of a hat, I don't think we're going to see any of this information is going to see the light of day.
It's just like, you remember Building 7 on 9-11 is where they had all those Enron records and those Twin Towers collapsing was kind of a cover to keep those records We're good.
up at nothing to keep their dirty laundry a secret.
Even all the auditing companies, all the auditing companies.
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We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, with Max Keiser himself.
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He's a TV presenter, radio host, entrepreneur, broadcaster, and journalist.
Some of the biggest networks in the world.
He's a presenter for Al Jazeera English and a blogger with Evan The Post.
He's also the host of a weekly radio show, The Truth About Markets.
And he's been listening for the last hour while we've been attacking Lord Obama.
And I was talking to him in the break.
I said, let me guess what your whole view on this is.
It doesn't matter.
It's the big international banks running it all.
Presidents are basically puppets, but we'll get his specific take on that right now.
Max Keiser, thanks for coming on with us.
max keiser
Alex Jones, nice to be here.
alex jones
You bet.
We're going to be talking for the next hour, and we're opening the phones up in 20 minutes, I promise.
But Max, your whole take on this.
I mean, you're against the bailout, the banker takeover, Lord Obama's for it.
max keiser
Yeah, Alex, I mean, you know, before I get into the Obama thing, You know, let's look at the economy for a second.
You know, since I was on your show last time, there's been some news events.
You know, the thing about it in the U.S. is you have to understand that it's a different kind of a gulag than a gulag are used to.
You know, when people think of gulag, they think Chinese gulag.
They think forced labor.
But the American gulag is forced consumption.
Seventy percent of the economy is consumption.
It's a forced consumption.
It runs on people overindulging.
And it runs on cheap money.
Now, this whole banking crisis that started a year and a half ago was the result of that cheap money spigot being cut off for a number of reasons.
And we've had a period now of this so-called deflation, which is really just a hoax, if you will.
A deflation hoax.
And just this past few days, Alex, I don't know if you've seen this or not, But the inflation spigot is being turned on once again to fuel the consumption gulag in America.
We've got something like $500 billion in new U.S. Treasury notes that have to be sold immediately to fund the deficit.
So the hyperinflation that, you know, you were talking about 18 months ago, and Peter Schiff was talking about, and Jim Ryders was talking about, you know, there was a break, there was a pause during this Deflationary period when we saw oil collapse from $147 down to the $60 range, but now that's all going to reverse.
And we're going to go back to this hyperinflationary scenario, which is horrible for the U.S. dollar.
It's horrible for the American consumer.
And lastly, you know, sign up to this casino gula consumption state, as I'd like to think of it or refer to it as.
So those all those bets are back on the table.
So, going forward, just so your listeners keep that in mind, the idea of buying gold and silver to protect yourself, that's still very much in play.
And don't get fooled by this big deflation that we've seen in the last couple of months.
And the reason for it has to do with the big geopolitical workings out there.
You know, Russia invaded Georgia, Russia was getting too big for its boots, and they decided that, you know what, you might be making a lot of money, but we don't want Russia making much money or Venezuela making a lot of money.
So they took these markets down.
They took these markets down in anticipation of trying to help the Republicans.
Let's face it, the Republicans are supported in part by big oil.
But now that the inflation, now that the election looks like it's finished, basically, today you saw oil spike $7 in a single day.
That's a historic spike!
Because they can't keep the genie in the bottle anymore.
hyperinflation story very much back in play You haven't talked about it recently, Alex, because you had a fake rally in the dollar.
But I think that's fake rally in the dollar is coming to a close.
alex jones
Yeah, that was other currencies falling.
And also not just manipulation.
You had a lot of speculators dumping their stocks, dumping things liquidating so that they could cover their margins.
That's another reason we saw some of the bubbles burst.
But you're right.
They've signaled only a total devaluation of the dollar.
So how fast do you see the hyperinflation setting in?
max keiser
Well, it's going to happen with a big bang, because they are the money supply numbers, M3, M2, M1, or MGM, which is money at zero maturity.
These numbers in the last two weeks and three weeks have absolutely historically skyrocketed.
so it doesn't take a lot about the filter to a into the general economy And, you know, the story that you've carried on your show with guys like Peter Schiff and others.
And that primary story of the hyperinflation that was interrupted by, as you point out, the currencies were dumped, and there was a spat of what's being called deflation.
But that's ridiculous.
All that's going to happen is that all the bankers that got bailed out with your taxpayer money in America, they've got your money, now they're going to buy gold.
So you're going to be left without any gold because you were challenged, you maybe had weak hands, maybe you sold some of your gold.
And now who's going to be buying that gold at the cheaper price?
alex jones
Well, exactly.
We have gold.
Gold dropping while people can't buy it hardly anywhere.
Talk about free market.
This thing's totally rigged, where people are grabbing it and snatching it up worldwide.
You can't find it, but its price is plunging.
Max Keiser, let's talk about that with you when we get back.
He's also a former Wall Street broker.
I mean, this guy has just been involved in everything, and we're really honored to have him with us.
And your phone call.
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Here's Max Keiser on international television talking about 9-11 and the financial dictatorship.
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Yeah.
Yes, but at the same time as this coup d'etat has taken place and given Hank Paulson dictatorial powers to determine what is in fact the information that should be disclosed or not disclosed, combine that with Bush's dictatorial powers to declare the state of emergency at the drop of a hat, I don't think we're going to see any of this information as going to see the light of day.
It's just like, you remember, Building 7 on 9-11 is where they had all those Enron records and the...
And those twin towers collapsing was kind of a cover to keep those records from being examined.
You know, these guys will stop at nothing to keep their dirty laundry a secret.
Even all the auditing companies, all the auditing companies that now these banks will have to be scrutinized by under federal law?
To what auditing companies?
The ones that have been discredited for the last ten years and gone out of business, like Arthur Anderson, who's auditing Enron, for example?
The auditing companies, the rating agencies, the Treasury Department, the Federal Reserve Bank.
This is a criminal syndicate.
This should be investigated under RICO.
These guys are wholesale thieving of trillions of dollars.
alex jones
All right, that's Max Keiser.
Max, let's get into what's really happening with the economy and Wall Street.
And the reason I bring up Obama is because He's certainly in their hip pocket, so is John McCain.
Do you see any changes in policies?
unidentified
Yeah, Alex, I'm going to have to ask you again.
max keiser
I mean, if we can just pick up on this thread for a second, on the gold and silver market.
Just as we went to break, you were talking about how gold, the physical gold prices double with the paper gold prices.
And the paper price has been manipulated down by these so-called deflationistas.
And you can't get gold and silver for anything less than 50%, 60%, and sometimes 100% price.
Premium. Now, this is what I hear is going to happen in December.
My understanding, Alex, is that in December, the Comex in New York is going to be busted.
The Comex in New York is short, gold and silver, beyond what they can deliver.
Come December, there's going to be a raid on the Comex from some very large international players.
And as you know, we do a lot of international press, you know, all over the world.
I'm hearing this from a lot of people around the world.
They're going to do a raid on the Comex and bust the Comex and demand delivery of silver that they do not have.
At the Comex, they've sold short bullion that they do not have.
When that happens, when that story gets out, gold will double in a day.
Gold will double in a day.
If you don't have the gold now, it'll be too late, because it'll be doubled in a day.
I'm hearing this in December.
There's gonna be a massive, and I'm hearing it, it might come from Russia, because Russia is not happy with how the The Bush administration has manipulated the price of oil down to the $60 level to help their buddy McCain.
And they're hurting.
Now they're saying, OK, what the hell with you?
We're going to bust open the Comex in December because we know they're short silver and gold.
They can't deliver it.
They've sold short more than they could possibly deliver.
And they're going to shut that market down.
And that's going to be a massive dislocation of these markets.
So again, I urge people, position yourself ahead of that.
The dollar is absolute toast.
On that clip that you just played, you know, that whole Building No.
7, you know, the Comex Building No.
7, all that stuff down on Wall Street is completely corrupt to the bone, to the absolute core.
You know, it's ironic about the whole thing, about the 9-11 event, is that I was talking to brokers two weeks before the event, and they had heard the rumor of exploding airplanes, and they were buying puts on airline companies.
So you've got brokers who are actually working in the Twin Towers We're speculating on exploiting airlines.
I mean, that's what these bankers are all about.
alex jones
Max Keiser, let me stop you.
max keiser
They don't speculate on their own demise.
alex jones
Max Keiser, let me stop you right there.
I mean, you're a prominent guy.
You have an international television show, an international radio show, a very popular website.
You don't make stuff up.
I've been following you for a long time.
I know that you've always been very, very accurate in what you say.
Specifically, you were on Wall Street, you were working where?
As much detail as you can, because we have a lot of other mainstream reports where people on Wall Street were warned the towers were going to be blown up, there was going to be a disaster, there was a FEMA drill there the night before.
You're just another one of these witnesses.
Tell us specifically.
max keiser
The rumors are out there two weeks in advance, and you can see it in the trading pattern on the airlines.
alex jones
No, no, no, I understand the way they put options against American United.
You specifically, go back to where you were, what these people said to you.
max keiser
Well, if you look at those options, they were skyrocketing in a private volume.
There was a rumor on the street that these options were taking a different airplane that had already blown up.
So there was a rumor.
Well, how can that be?
There's no airplanes that have blown up.
Now you do a little research, And you find out that a lot of these contracts are going through the offices of Alex Brown, down in Maryland, in Maryland.
alex jones
Buzzy Croninger.
max keiser
Who was that Alex Brown in Maryland?
Oh, a guy named Buzzy Croninger.
Buzzy Croninger then moved over to CIA, worked with George Tenet.
So now there's a pipeline with the CIA, Alex Brown, where all these puts were traded two weeks before the event.
And I used to work at Alex Brown.
I worked there in 1990.
I know by now I've met these guys.
I was working on Wall Street at the time.
alex jones
Not just the record puts.
I hear rumors all the time.
Max Keiser, not just the puts.
Specifically, you're saying you were on Wall Street and you heard guys in offices going, yeah, something about exploding airplanes.
Let's put puts not just on airlines, specifically on American and United.
What did you hear?
max keiser
At the time, I was in Europe.
I talked to brokers all day long.
there is a rumor on the street all the action to put options wouldn't play is getting people's attention and uh...
looking at it afterward you see that all of that and went to alex brown out proud of the stone so from washington indicate you look type of buddy kronkart and google and you know if the story of the start to come into focus there was information out there two weeks in advance A lot of, about, look at the puts.
unidentified
I understand what you're saying specifically.
max keiser
Look at the action in the puts themselves.
The 9-11 report says, based on the puts, the volume in these puts, it suggests that there was insider trading.
However, we are not going to pursue that in any great detail.
Well, why not?
It's a clear case of insider trading.
When you see actually anytime there's a merger or insider trading, there's a huge spike in the volume of the puts or the options or the stock.
And that's investigated immediately because that's a telltale sign of insider trading.
If you look at the action on those options, it's a telltale sign, clearly, that information above and beyond random information.
alex jones
No, I understand.
It was record put options, record put options on American and United.
We're very well versed.
I put a film out six months after the attacks that covers that road to tyranny, 9-11 road to tyranny.
What I'm asking you is, as a financial analyst, as a financial consultant, as an expert, you yourself say you remember asking, hey, why are there record puts on United and American?
And your colleague said something about blowing up airplanes.
max keiser
That was the rumor.
That was the talk.
I mean, yeah, it makes sense because you think about it.
It's because they acted like you saw After an explosion, that's where the volume and the price action was after an explosion.
So the comment you heard was, well, why would it happen like this now?
There's no explosion.
You think?
People were asking that question.
Why now?
And then you talk to brokers, and it's the ridiculous and absurd thing is that you're talking to actual brokers on the street who were speculating on ultimately what became their own demise.
alex jones
Amazing. Okay, let's get back to gold.
I mean, they're admittedly manipulating and suppressing it.
Why are they so afraid of gold?
max keiser
Gold is the banker's worst enemy, because gold represents real money, and it's a limited supply, and you can't run up huge, multi-billion, trillion-dollar debts like you can with a fiat money currency if you have a gold standard.
It's a check and balance that would prevent the bankers in the world from engaging in what we've just seen over the past 20, 30 years, this huge Ponzi scheme based on fiat money and debt.
You know, everyone has seen the film Money is Debt.
Everyone understands, I think now, that the Federal Reserve and the Treasury, they simply issued trillions of dollars worth of debt.
it's not money in a sense that it has any value And this creates wage slaves or the casino consumer gulag state in America, where people are way...
...and cheap money.
And right now, the economy, after going through a heart attack because of the credit seizure from 18 months ago, they have ramped up another half a trillion, trillion, two trillion, three trillion, five trillion dollars with a fresh credit, fresh debt, and it's going to restoke the consumers, and they're going to be back buying their iPods and back buying their, you know, cheap food at cheap prices, and they're going to get that consumer gulag casino state ramped up again.
And this is going to take the value of the dollar down as it was going down up until six months ago.
The dollar index was sitting post-World War II low.
It got down to 70 on the index.
Now we have this rally, a bear market rally, into the 85, 86 range.
It's topping out now.
It's going to resume its downward trend, break through 70, All right.
You've got a guy on your show, Peter Schiff, he's an excellent analyst, he's an excellent writer, he's got a book on us.
And I would also point out that Peter Schiff has said something.
Let's get into the Obama situation a little bit, if I might.
unidentified
Go ahead.
max keiser
That's okay.
You know, okay, the Obama situation, Obama coming on as President of the United States, you know, even guys like Peter Schiff, who are fiscal conservatives, I think is a fair statement.
He has suggested something, and I want to bring it up with you.
And I agree with Peter Schiff on this.
You know, millions of Americans out there have been shafted by the bankers, and they're sitting on negative equity in their homes.
Right now, there's a legislation in America to convert non-recourse mortgages into recourse mortgages.
In other words, instead of being able to walk away from your negative equity home after having this predatory loan forced down your throat by unscrupulous bankers, You're not going to be able to walk away from that loan anymore because of a non-recourse loan.
It's going to be converted to a recourse loan, which means you're going to be on the hook.
You're going to have your pay garnished.
You're going to be in debtor's prison.
You're going to have to face that mortgage debt head on.
What Peter Schiff is saying, and I agree with it, is people should just walk away from that debt anyway and stage a massive civil disobedience.
No, I agree.
alex jones
Let me just stop you, Max Keiser, because you're great at breaking down the basics.
We have this international consortium of private banks and intergroup.
They terrorize the public, and they threaten Congress with martial law through the executive, that if they don't pass it, they say, we've got to have the money this week.
Now, a month later, they haven't given any of it out to any, you know, troubled mortgage securities.
Instead, the banks are on record in the New York Times bragging, oh, we're keeping the money and giving each other bonuses.
You know, tens of billions of bonuses at Goldman Sachs alone in each division in each country.
I mean, just no transparency.
Corruption like we've never seen before.
And then, as you said, they've changed the law so we can't declare bankruptcy.
They're moving to try to say we can't get out of mortgages and we can't even walk away.
I mean, this is unbelievable.
I mean, how much do they plan on squeezing us?
So, give the listeners, from your expertise, the basic breakdown of what we're dealing with.
max keiser
Well, you're dealing with the banking establishment has really It's gotten full of itself, beyond anything I think anyone could have possibly imagined, even during the most excessive period, even during the Mike Milken phase, even during, you know, the Corporator phases, even during, you know, the greatest excesses of banking, largesse, the JPMorgan phase, you know, going back a century.
This is really the most unbelievable wealth confiscation by a small group of bankers, On Wall Street that we've probably ever seen in the American history, and quite possibly, you know, I've looked through history in other countries, other periods, this is disranked as one of the most unbelievably egregious wealth confiscations by, uh, confiscation by a small group of bankers.
unidentified
And they're just getting started.
max keiser
Well, they have, it's very difficult for America, see this is why, this is my point with Obama, and with a, you know, the point is this, American people, no matter who is going to be president tomorrow morning, it's still incumbent upon the American people to take action for themselves.
And I say, you know, they say Obama's going to be tested.
Is it going to be a showdown with Iran?
Is it going to be a showdown with this country?
The showdown for Obama is a showdown with the American people.
The American people still need to stand up.
And as people have suggested, including Schiff, I think this is a great campaign.
There should be mass civil disobedience, mass Uh, walking away from these mortgages, and sticking to the bankers.
Say, look, we're not going to pay these bankers.
alex jones
But see, that's why they're putting Obama in as a puppet, so that everybody thinks there's been change, when the very same financial institutions that really run things are going to continue.
So for Obama lovers, you need to realize he's a puppet, just so your precious Obama doesn't get the blame.
I agree he's a puppet, and he's not going to deserve the blame that's coming, but Max, I agree that the financial crisis is the biggest thing we face, but what do you think Biden and Powell and all of them, Brown, Merkel, Barroso, what is the crisis with them naming the date, the 21st, the 22nd?
Powell, on Meet the Press, it sounded like a financial crisis.
With all the others, it sounds like a military crisis.
You've got your ear to the ground in a lot of high places.
What are you getting told?
them.
max keiser
I'm hearing about a currency devaluation.
The U.S. dollar gets devalued.
the U.S.
dollar gets devalued in one shot, just like you saw in other South American, Latin American countries.
alex jones
And they've been holding that up for the election, which would show the establishment really was for McCain.
max keiser
Well, you know, that's one, That's one narrative.
You know, I just look at the numbers, and the numbers are that the U.S. dollar can no longer function as a world reserve currency.
Our creditors in America are demanding payment in their own currency.
Chinese Yuan, Japanese Yen, they don't want to play this game anymore.
alex jones
Explain that to the listeners, because you're international, you're in Paris right now covering all this.
The billions that the shareholders are getting and the billions that the CEOs are getting Poor company in the bailout money for themselves as bonuses.
They're converting that to other currencies.
They're buying real assets, aren't they?
max keiser
Well, there's two questions.
Yeah, number one, that's right.
I think this pullback in gold and silver have given those people who amassed, who are taking the bailout money, and they've basically trashed the precious metal market.
And I think they're going to be the biggest buyers of precious metals right now with America's bailout money.
So as they devalue the currency, And that could be the big news coming out in two weeks' time, is that, okay, the U.S. dollar is devalued.
That means that stuff like precious metals are going to be jumping in price.
And guess who's now going to own all the precious metals?
Because all the suckers who got scared by the deflation scare sold out.
I own a ton of gold and silver.
I, myself, was questioning my own belief in my own work, because the stock market Sell-off was so bad.
I mean, and I've been looking at it for 25 years.
Think of all the people out there who are not, you know, professional, who are thinking, God, this stuff is not going to work.
I'm getting out.
I'm going to go back into the dollar.
I'm going to go back into some of these other things.
Now they're going to get wiped.
They're going to get their clocks cleaned as the dollar gets devalued and these metals go a lot higher.
The other question you're talking about, I think you're asking about, is the role of the dollar at the World Reserve currency.
Is that another question?
alex jones
Yeah, that's it.
max keiser
All right.
Since World War II, since Bretton Woods, and you hear leaders all over the world saying, we want a new Bretton Woods.
What does that mean?
That means a new world currency order, backed by gold.
But since World War II, the Bretton Woods has established a system where all the world's currencies are convertible into the dollar, and the dollar was convertible into gold.
This went on until 1971, and then all the currencies became free-floating, and they all became fiat currencies.
But still, all the world's commodities, like gold, Uh, for one.
But oil, for another, they're priced in dollars.
So if you live in another country, you live in China, you live in Japan, you live in Venezuela, you live in any other country in the world...
alex jones
Stay there, Max Keiser, got a break.
So, when they announce the new world monetary system, which the UN and the IMF have announced, they will then announce it's no longer the dollar, that will be the signal, and then we will be completely enslaved and totally bankrupt.
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alex jones
All right, look, I want to go to your calls on the election and what's happening on the economy.
Max Keiser is going to speak to all of it.
Well versed guy.
But Max there going out to break.
Do you think they're going to announce the 21st or 22nd?
I guess they're already announcing it.
They say a new world order run by the banks off the dollar.
The very banks that engineered it now.
I guess it bought up the world with our currency and they want to leave us holding the bag.
I guess we'll have to pay for it in taxes and in inflation.
And I guess we'll just be left with Obama's youth brigade to make sure we pay up.
max keiser
Yeah, it looks like the talk around the world and in Europe is You keep hearing this phrase, the new Brentwood.
That means a new monetary order to have to accommodate, they have to incorporate the fact that the dollar is just too weak.
They've got to recalibrate the global economy in such a way that the dollar is going to be the big loser because there's too many of them.
The money supply is just too great.
There's no production in America.
There's no jobs in America.
alex jones
Yeah, the bankers took our money, devalued it to buy up real goods and services for themselves, built their new world order, and now they're going to leave us holding the bag.
Max Keiser, how bad is it going to get?
max keiser
Well, I mean, the U.S. in terms of what?
In terms of how bad is it going to get for I mean, think about it.
The money in your pocket is going to be cut, the value is going to be cut in half.
I mean, so you can do the math and figure it out yourself.
Whatever you have at hand.
alex jones
Yeah, well, if you think it's bad now, notice GM's about to go under, they're saying, and the government says, no money for you.
unidentified
But all these foreign bankers, oh, here it is, it's all for you, baby.
max keiser
Well, it just, they're simply, the way that they're going to get out of this, the way that they're going to approach this, with this new Brentwood Agreement.
It's going to effectively devalue the currency.
Look at the history of countries like Argentina, for example.
It's a brilliant example.
America's going to go through the same thing.
America's been telling the world, through the IMF and the World Bank and all these organizations, how to run their economy.
Accept these conditions.
Accept us managing your economy.
And while they take all the resources and they destroy their economies, now the chickens are coming home to roost.
Now the world is telling America, we don't want your stinkin' U.S. Treasury government bonds anymore.
We don't want your dollars anymore.
But you know, if you want to borrow money, you're going to have to borrow it in Chinese or Japanese or European currencies.
We're not going to take any more of your dollars anymore.
alex jones
Max Keiser, the bottom line is this is going to get crazy.
unidentified
Go ahead.
max keiser
Well, it's the, uh, it's, you know, the U.S. lifestyle that has been developed over the post-World War II era is coming to a close because you You know, getting back to the World Reserve currency, how it works is that the U.S., when the U.S. needs money, they sell these countries bonds, and when the interest is due on the bonds, they simply sell them more bonds.
So it's like you've got a checkbook, and anytime you want something, you write a check, but the deal is the person who you wrote the check to never cashes the check.
And this has been going on for decades.
Now the rest of the world is saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
We're not taking your bad money anymore.
You can't voucher check anymore.
We've seen the Hollywood movies.
We know what you're about now.
We don't want their bad money.
alex jones
But Max, let's go one layer higher.
Let's go one layer higher.
Sticklets all of them, going a new world order.
The international banks will set the world's Uh, you know, prices, the currencies, the stock rules, the banking rules, the brokerage rules.
They're the ones that engineered all this and used America as their engine and as their bad guy and as their muscle, and then they're all up there smiling like Cheshire Cats, posing as savers when they engineered it all.
max keiser
Right, well, that's why I'm saying to the people in America who listen to your show, You know, why not stage a revolt?
You know, it worked in the 1776 period.
Why shouldn't it happen again?
You know, as Jefferson said, democracy has to be refreshed every 50 or 60 years.
You know, no matter what it takes.
unidentified
And I'm saying everyone should band together and say, you know what?
max keiser
We're not going to pay our mortgages to the bankers.
We're going on a strike.
We're not paying these mortgages.
unidentified
To hell with you!
alex jones
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Mott& Klein stuff's gonna get rocky.
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