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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, here's what's happening.
		I'm going to be on World Wide Iranian TV via audio.
		We're visual on our side, live at PrisonPlanet.tv.
		They just called.
		The show starts about four or five after.
		So they're going to be calling back in the next few minutes.
		And then I will air them live here.
		And then they will take control of the interview for this simulcast.
		And so you'll hear whatever background news is going on.
		And then as the guest will be interviewed, I will be in the interviewee position here on air.
		Okay.
		And so for stations out there, the ads will still play.
		You just won't be able to hear what's going on on Iranian TV.
		But John will take control from there.
		And John, I'm going to turn down the ISDN once that happens so that you can be in control from Minnesota.
		So I'm in Texas.
		The Genesis Network is in Minneapolis, St.
unidentified		Paul.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're in Burnsville, a suburb to be precise.
		We're going to be talking to international press TV out of London, England, which is satellited back into Tehran.
		And this is English language, so you'll be able to understand them as soon as they call.
		And I agreed to do this today.
		I've said no a few other times because it's always on gold or oil or government terrorism or other subjects.
		Today it's on U.S.
		elections?
		Who could win?
		What happened to third parties?
		U.S.
		electoral system?
		How democratic?
		The future of U.S.
		and world under John McCain or Obama?
		What's at stake?
		Bush legacy.
		So, that is what we're going to be discussing today on Iranian international television and press TV is on some U.S.
		cable and satellite systems.
		Again, it is also on around the world so that is coming up and again you'll be able to watch it all uninterrupted at prison planet dot tv i have to Multitask a lot with what I do to be able to maximize getting the word out.
		Would I love to go speak in your city or go speak in England or go speak in Croatia or Russia or Japan as I've been invited?
		Would I love to be able to take my children to the Pacific Northwest and see whales as my wife dreams of doing?
		Yes.
		But every day I can sit here in the bunker reading, researching, doing radio interviews, doing TV interviews and having a huge effect.
		And so that's why I'm doing this and that's why I can't come up to say Kansas City, KCXL invited me up there to speak to crowds.
		Last time I was there was about a thousand people.
		I can't do the things I want to do because we are affecting the biggest amount of change here over AM and FM, over the interviews I'm doing, over PrisonPlanet.tv, and with all of you that are taking the audio of this show and putting it all over the internet, on the file sharing networks, everywhere else.
		Okay, I'm ready to go ahead and go to him.
		Uh, hello?
unidentified		Hello, this is Gail from Press TV.
unidentified		How do you do, sir, Mr. Jones?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am ready to go live, so I sit here awaiting whenever you guys are ready to go to me.
unidentified		Yes, the show just started in four minutes, sir, so you're ready, I think, but I want to have your brief sound check as usual.
unidentified		So, is the cable too, sir?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I didn't quite make out.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		So could you please start counting from 1 to 10 very slowly, sir?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		It's 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1.
		Thank you.
		Thank you.
unidentified		And something else, I put you through the studio.
		There's the news brief.
		If you can hear, let me know, sir.
		Thank you.
		...government from power, unless it held direct talks on his demands.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sounds good.
unidentified		Could you?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sounds very good.
unidentified		Perfect.
		Perfect.
		So you're ready for our show.
		Have a great show.
		Good luck.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		And you were asking if I could be in studio for a video interview on Wednesday.
		I want to make sure you guys know I'm happy to do that.
unidentified		Wow.
		Perfect.
		Perfect.
		So if you want, you can talk with Shida, okay?
		Our coordinator.
		So please.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Mr. Alex Jones, hi sir!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hi, how are you doing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me on your show.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Well, you know, we're so happy for having you on the show.
		Not just me, like everybody here is so happy.
		And the other day I was talking to Mr. Trey and I was telling him how wonderful you are and how we really appreciate your being on our show.
		Thank you very much.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well absolutely, I'm happy to do it.
unidentified		Thank you, thank you.
		We really enjoy your comments and every time you come to one of our shows, I mean all of us here, we sit down and we watch.
		Like the last time I remember, it was Four Corners and like we were all watching it and it was amazing.
		It was absolutely amazing.
		Thank you very much.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well thank you for having me on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I would love to do it more, just I'm usually on the radio at this time, but I'm glad that we could do it today, so thank you.
unidentified		Perfect, perfect.
		Thank you.
		So please stay with us and we're going to start the show in about a few minutes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you.
unidentified		Okay, thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Really nice folks there.
unidentified		Mr. Alec Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I'm right here.
unidentified		By the way, by the way, about the show that we have on Wednesday, I have to talk to the transmission department, and then as soon as we know that the, I mean, the, I mean, we can, we'll be able to book a studio, I'll let you know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Fantastic, just whenever you need me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Sure, definitely I'll let you know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Hello and welcome to Fine Friends.
		The double scrutiny of the story and its coverage with me, Amir Afraf.
		First as always, we'll start with a quick check of the big print.
		Big print call. Big print call.
		McCain and Obama embark on last-ditch tours of spring states.
		Presidential candidates make appeals in key states.
		Presidential candidates make appeals in key states.
		Candidates sprint towards finish line.
		Obama is up.
		Infant fear.
		That jinxes it.
		Thank you.
		Obama leads McCain in six of eight key states.
		Obama in command on either U.S.
		Obama leads McCain in six of eight key states.
		Obama in command on Eva's U.S. vote.
		World closely watching U.S. presidential elections.
		If the world could vote in the U.S. election.
		Stop us track the fine print.
		We're joined from London by Dr. James Boyce, assistant professor of international political studies at Richmond.
		The American International University in London and founder of the Resolute Group from Austin, Texas.
		We're joined by Wayne Slater, author and senior political writer with the Dallas Morning News, co-author of Bush's Brain, How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential.
		By the phone, we're joined from Austin, Texas again by Alex Jones, investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker, owner of InfoWords.
		Welcome to the show, but straight to our first pick, Agence France-Presse, Obama in command on eve of U.S.
		vote.
		Barack Obama is huge on the threshold of history on Monday, as polls gave the Democrats a solid lead over John McCain on the last day of campaigning for the most dramatic U.S.
		presidential vote in a generation.
		But McCain, who has no room for error in the tense battle for a handful of toss-up states About to confound the pollsters and wrench victory from the African-American Obama's grasp on Tuesday.
		The 47-year-old Democrat stressed the historic nature of his quest to be America's first black president, striking an optimistic tone as thresholds gave him a white leap and heaped further pressure on McCain.
		He said, quote, This is a defining moment in our history, Obama wrote in an article published Monday in the Wall Street Journal.
		Tomorrow, I ask you to write Our nation's next great chapter.
		If you give me your vote, we won't just win this election together.
		We will change this country and change the world.
		McCain, a 72-year-old former prisoner of war in Vietnam, was defiant.
		My opponent, he said, quote, is measuring the drape to the White House, he said, as he wrapped up a frenzied day of campaigning with a midnight rally in Miami.
		The Mac is back, he said, quote, and we're going to win this election.
		And of course, the polls give it all to Obama.
		New Wall Street Journal NBC News poll put Obama at 51% of 43%.
		CNN's latest poll on Sunday had Obama with a 53% to 46% edge.
		The Washington Post ABC News poll gave him 54% to 43%.
		Rasmussen said he was at 51% of McCain's 46%.
		So let's go straight to Texas.
		Wayne Slater, take a look at your crystal ball.
		What do you see?
		Well, I think the polls really indicated Barack Obama's year.
		I just got off the plane, I spent almost a week with Barack Obama, before that a week with John McCain, and the Obama campaign is very, very confident.
		What we're seeing here is a remarkable, not only campaign by Barack Obama, if he happens to win tomorrow, and I think the expectations are he probably will, but we're seeing a redefinition of who votes for Democrats in America.
		Barack Obama is actually winning right now in some Southern states, something that no one has done and no Democrat has done since 1976, when Jimmy Carter, a fellow Southerner, won.
		You see Barack Obama challenging in a state like North Carolina, part of the Old South, where 40% of the registered voters have already voted, most of them are Democrats, and if Barack Obama wins there and in Virginia, as well as the other states that he's expected to pick up
		It not only will be a victory for the first African-American, an historic victory, but also a rather astonishing reconfiguration of the electoral map, which shows that the South, long Republican territory, might become part Democrat territory starting tomorrow.
		Reuters agrees with you.
		Obama leads McCain in 6 of 8, a key state.
		Democrat Barack Obama leads Republican John McCain in 6 of 8, a key battleground state.
		One day before the U.S.
		election, including the big prides of Florida and Ohio, according to a series of Reuters, Zogby polls released on Monday.
		Alex Jones, your look at your crystal ball, and do you see any surprise with all these polls going to Obama?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't.
		The incredible support that we're witnessing for Barack Obama in almost every poll with leads of 10%, many of them, the smallest only about 5%, show that people don't like the policies of George W. Bush.
		The problem is, and most pundits are predicting a very short honeymoon, including his running mate Joe Biden, For Barack Obama, because he's going to come in, he wants more defense spending, he wants more wars, he wants to go into Afghanistan and expand things.
		Pakistan, he's for the warrantless Fourth Amendment destroying, wiretapping, spying on the American people.
		He's gotten three times the Wall Street money that John McCain has gotten, four times the Goldman Sachs.
		So he's going to be put in tomorrow by the public's outrage and by a media that's been giving him most the attention.
		It's clear that the establishment knows they've ridden their Republican pony as far as they can.
		They want a new, fresh horse, Barack Obama, to give them left cover, to pacify the left, so he can move in, bring in a global carbon tax, acquiesce to the banks who are literally just looting the country of not 800 billion, but trillions of dollars, giving it to themselves in bonuses.
		Barack Obama is probably going to be elected tomorrow, but he's also going to be a huge disappointment for the American people.
		You have a lot of conservatives voting for him because they're so sick of George Bush, but you also have about 30% of the U.S.
		population saying that they're not totally decided, that they don't like either candidate.
		You have Congress with an 11% approval rating.
		Both parties are universally hated now at higher levels than we've ever had in history.
		And so what's going to happen is Barack Obama is going to come into office probably, 95% chance I would say, all the polls show that, and then people are going to see that it's a different face, different rhetoric, a better speaker than George Bush, but that the global corporate institutions that control our executive branch are really in control, and so you're going to see a major crisis here in the United States as things intensify.
unidentified		All right, you covered a lot of ground.
		We'll be talking about that, the choices American people have, whether or not the two are true agents for change, either Obama or McCain.
		No other choice, as facts speak for themselves.
		But New York Times goes, Obama is up, and fans fear that jinxes it.
		Let's get a doctor's voice for his speculation.
		Plus, do you see any of this jinx could be nothing Other than the Bradley effect.
		Do you see the Bradley effect simply people not voting black on election day despite all the polling?
		Well, certainly the Bradley effect is something which the Obama campaign are greatly fearing.
		This idea that people could be saying one thing to the pollsters and something else to themselves in private.
		It's certainly got to be fighting away the heart of darkness at the Obama campaign.
		I think, however, that as your polls have revealed, there is enough of a gap between the two candidates at this point.
		There should be sufficient to see Barack Obama coast to victory tomorrow.
		Whether it will be the landslide, which some people had forecast, I think is unlikely.
		We will have to wait and see exactly what the figures emerge.
		But I think it's telling today that we see John McCain very much on the defensive in states that he should have sawn up months ago, and Barack Obama very much on the offensive, campaigning in those states which George Bush took relatively easily in 2004.
		We see John McCain traveling some 3,000 miles today to try to shore up his base, whereas Barack Obama appears to be taking it relatively easy, traveling just under a biome, all reckoning some 700 miles, very much to try to energize the Democrats and get them out to vote.
		Wayne, well, of course, we have McCain saying Obama is perhaps measuring the drapes of the White House Well, he should be, according to the polls.
		But do you see that broadly affect the race factor, changing all the polls come November 4th, that is hours away?
		Yeah, I think Dr. Boyd has it exactly right.
		If this were a close race, if in fact Barack Obama were leading in the polls, In the battleground states and nationally, by one or two percentage points, then I think the potential of the Bradley effect, where people, as he said, might telepolster that they would vote for Barack Obama, but secretly, when they actually go to vote, would not vote for an African-American, then I think the Bradley effect might have an effect.
		But all indications are that even though this race is narrowing to some extent, and is expected to narrow in terms of the voter turnout, that the The margin of victory by Barack Obama, in the key battleground states especially, where he is expected to win by more than 2 or 3 or 4 percent, probably obligates the Bradley effect here.
		If that happens, if in fact some voters are going to not vote for him because he is black, there's no question about that.
		But if he's able to overcome that, it will be a rather remarkable moment in American politics.
		We had slavery in this country 140 years ago.
		That's when we abolished it.
		And now that we have an African-American who could win the presidency of the United States, you know, 140 years since the 15th Amendment, which allowed the former slaves to vote, is an extraordinary moment.
		So while few Americans may vote against Barack Obama because he is black, The indications are that there is a phenomenon here which is bigger than that, and that it's likely, though I'm not going to predict absolutely, but likely to sweep him into office tomorrow.
		All right, let's take a look at this C-word of change.
		Both campaigns have been talking about change.
		Obama says the change we need, that their change is not authentic, and well, here is what he wrote.
		Again, in the Wall Street Journal, this is a defining moment in our history, and then he said, tomorrow I ask you to write our nation's next great chapter.
		If you give me your vote, we won't just win this election together, we will change this country and change the world!
		Alex Jones, last time Bush said, I'll change the world after 9-11, we need to change.
		What change does Obama really mean, both inside the U.S.
		and outside?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's going to be real change, and it's the exact same change we would have seen with John McCain.
		These guys on the issues aren't any different.
		You just get some different rhetoric.
		And Barack Obama has openly called for a million-person youth corps, youth brigades, out-enforcing as intelligence spies.
		He's called for a three million-person environmental squads.
		He's called for shutting down, quote, bankrupting the coal industry that supplies forty-nine percent of all of our power.
		Yeah, he's going to bring in big government.
		I mean, he's talking like he's the Messiah.
		He's running TV ads where he's already sitting in the White House.
		And so what he's going to bring is a lot of grassroots support just because the public thinks they're getting political change because he looks different.
		But instead they're going to get change, the whole George Bush agenda, on steroids.
		And so that's the bottom line here.
		That's why You have Barack Obama unpopular on almost every issue.
		The only reason he is popular with the people is because he's from a different party and they're hoping for some type of real change and they're not going to get it.
		What they're going to get is what his running mate called for twice last week, a new world order where the very private banks that have orchestrated the derivatives collapse for a vertical integration, a consolidation They are now openly calling for a world government run by a select group of banks out of London, England that will set and control world taxes, world regulations, stock markets.
		We will buy our carbon credits directly from a private group of central banks.
		And so that is the change that Barack Obama is talking about.
		He is talking about Bringing in more control, more of the same.
		That's why he's getting more corporate contributions and more defense contributions and more big money contributions than John McCain.
		The establishment positioned John McCain to win the Republican primary because they knew they were basically running a political corpse just like the system ran Bob Dole in 1996 against Bill Clinton.
		And so we're all talking about Oh, the first black president.
		While we're all talking about these little side issues, we should, as an American people, talk about the fact that Barack Obama has lied about every major issue.
		He has turned around and stabbed the American people in the back.
		He got the nomination claiming he was going to end the spying, end the police state, end the war, and now Biden and others.
		Has come out and said, guess what?
		We're not going to end any of it, basically.
		It's going to be very unpopular, but this is what we're going to do.
		We are going to see more of the New World Order, Neocon agenda, and we document it all at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
		And so you're going to see massive resistance form in the next few years.
		After the honeymoon is over, and as the United States goes into this orchestrated depression, you're going to see Barack Obama become incredibly unpopular, and we're going to see all sorts of resistance at every level here in the United States, and that's what I'm concerned about, because the left was all against George Bush and his globalist agenda, but now, because Barack Obama is set
		to be launched in there with this whole messianic you know vision talking about he is the one he is coming to save the earth Newsweek calling him the president of the world you know the whole world saying he's this wonderful sweet loving person if you look at what he really is doing he's bringing tyranny and an end to the free market, a crony capitalist system where a select group of interbanks and corporations loot the United States like we saw with Boris Yeltsin and the oligarchs in Russia.
		The United States is being looted from pillar to post by the transnational criminals.
		Joseph Sticklitz on CNBC yesterday called for a world government run by the banks.
		They are coming out against the people.
unidentified		All right, let's see if James L. London agrees.
		Well, can I just add, as a political scientist, it's a real honor to be on the show with Wayne Slater tonight, but let me see if I can add some sort of political dimension to that from an international perspective.
		You're going to hear an awful lot over the next 24 hours and moving in through the interregnum until the inauguration about change.
		Change is what we've heard from Barack Obama, of course, over the last 22 months or so.
		But history will dictate that in every presidential election, whilst people talk heavily about change, what you get a great deal of is actually continuity.
		any president coming into office is going to be forced to continue a whole raft of issues.
		And what often changes is the rhetoric.
		Now the rhetoric, as I'm sure many people realize, is important.
		The rhetoric of George Bush really put people's backs up here in Europe, in London, and his whole tone was very aggressive and his demeanor was seen to be very much at odds with the European perspective.
		I think Obama, the change he will initiate, will be one of tone and of an approach, a much more inclusive, multilateral, almost Clinton-esque, I think, approach to foreign policy, which will be much more in keeping with a European perspective.
		And as a result, I think, very much ease America's position in the rest of the world vis-a-vis the countries with which it is tempting to form alliances, both militarily and financial.
		Whoever becomes president has got a series of uphill challenges to face with.
		One could almost ask who would want to be president at this point.
		You've got the war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, and a financial crisis, which is clearly going to dominate their time in office.
		So whatever the candidates promise or pledge on the campaign trail, they're really going to face an uphill struggle in just trying to manage on a day-to-day basis And all these promises about spending and youth movement, I think, will take a secondary place once Obama, if he is installed in the White House, comes to pass.
		Of course, you've been in the planes of both campaigns, but you have had the chance of being in the planes of the two only major campaigns.
		Now, we will be talking about the third parties as well, but does this change?
		Both are talking about the change.
		Any difference between the two?
		If... Let's have a preview of the difference.
		We'll get into the details in the second half of the show.
		Wayne?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We have Wayne?
unidentified		I'm sorry, I thought you were going to break there.
		No, look, there's going to be a change.
		Now, it may not be the kind of change that Alex would anticipate, but there's going to be a change.
		There's a difference between Barack Obama, Democratic Party, this approach, and John McCain.
		And part of that change, as Alex said correctly, was this nation is sick and tired of George W. Bush, eight years of the Bush administration, and by extension, the attitude that the rest of the world has about America.
		Americans don't like it.
		That much of Europe, much of the rest of the world, doesn't particularly have use for us.
		That the preemption policies with respect to the war of George Bush administration, the economic policies at home, which both Democrats and Republicans have shared to cause big problems, that all of that together has created an environment for significant change.
		You're going to see in a Barack, we'll talk, as you say, more specifically later, but we're going to see an approach in terms of an outreach to Europe and the rest of the world that is more robust than we have seen certainly under the Bush administration.
		But we're also going to see an effort to deal with the economic crisis in a way that is somewhat more sensitive to middle-income Americans, not simply low-wealthy.
		At the same time, there's going to have to be a recognition that capital in the United States, which was part of the problem in terms of a few greedy operators, is going to have to be tended to.
		So there's going to be an element of continuity in the way the Barack Obama administration, if there is one, You know, runs the White House.
		But it's going to be different.
		It's approached internationally.
		It's approached here in the United States.
		I should say that one area where it will be exactly the same, I think, is if in fact Barack Obama is challenged.
		And Iran is a perfect example of what some Republican conservatives and John McCain and Barack Obama's own running mate suggest.
		Could be an early challenge, a testing of this young president.
		In the event something like that happens, I don't think people ought to be fooled.
		This president would act pretty much like John McCain would act, George Bush would act, a traditional United States president would act, and that would be very strongly to protect United States interests.
		So we have only just a few seconds left to the end of the first half, but something people haven't heard, over 20 parties, third parties, so-called third parties, running.
		But even Americans haven't heard the names of most of these, and they do not know the candidates.
		When we come back, we'll discuss the third parties, why it's only blue and or red, and then the change on the lips of both Barack Obama and his rival, John McCain.
		We'll be back after a short break.
		Thank you.
		Pakistan warns U.S.
		missile attacks inside its soil can spark a violent backlash.
		Pakistani officials told visiting U.S.
		Commander General David Petraeus missile strikes could severely hamper efforts to curb extremism.
		Petraeus is the new head of the U.S.
		US Central Command.
		Iraqi President Jalal Taliban rejects the notion of the US setting up bases in the country's Kurdistan region.
		Salabani's remarks came after a Kurdish leader said the U.S.
		US military could have bases in the north if Washington and Baghdad failed to sign a security deal.
		The Democratic Republic of Congo has placed the city of Goma under curfew.
		The order came after rebel chief Lauren Nakunda threatened to drive the government from power unless it held direct talks on his demands.
		The government has rejected the rebels' call for direct negotiation.
		The race for the White House ended its final hours.
		Polls show Barack Obama holding a solid lead in his historic quest to become the nation's first African-American president.
		Meanwhile, John McCain is grasping for a last-minute comeback.
		Wall Street opens on a courteous note a day before the US presidential election.
		The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose by 3% about 45 minutes into the trading day.
		A survey of top economists shows the majority believe the U.S.
		will experience a recession through 2009.
		The Kenyan family of the U.S.
		Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says they're looking forward to celebrating after the U.S.
		election.
		The idea of a first-like US President was in the minds of many Kenyans.
		And Obama-mania helped businesses in Kenya sell their Obama products.
		And a NATO warship has escorted a merchant vessel chartered by the World Food Program to deliver humanitarian aid to Somalia.
		Escorting operations are designed to protect WFP-chartered vessels from piracy in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes.
		Those are the latest here on SCV.
		We're back with
		Fine Friends just hours before the first Tuesday, after the first Monday in November, constitutionally when the Americans are supposed to go to the polls and choose the 44th president of the United States of America.
		We're taking a look at all the controversy surrounding the election, how the world views the election.
		From London, we're joined by Dr. James Boyce, Assistant Professor of International Political Studies at Richmond, the American International University of London, and founder of the Resolute Group.
		From Austin, Texas, we're joined by Wayne Slater, author and senior political writer of Dallas Morning News, co-author of Bush's Brain, How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential.
		By the phone, from Austin, Texas, by Alex Jones, investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker, owner of Infowars.com.
		Gentlemen, once again, our pleasure.
		But let's take a look at the website of a few other parties called third parties in the U.S.
		Constitution Party, the Socialist Party USA, the Peace and Freedom Party, the Party of Principle against the Libertarian Party, the Green Party, And of course, the Green Party says the real difference between Democrat and Republican parties.
		Do they represent your interests and values?
		The Democrats talk about the different policies, positions, and priorities we'd see from a Democrat in the White House versus a Republican.
		Most Democrat and Republican politicians, including Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and Bush, hold Similar positions on major issues, and that's why we need a real choice to oppose a party that gives power to we the people instead of powerful corporations.
	Then, the site brings up a list of different issues and say where they happen to be the same.
	It says issue, Green Party, Republican, Democrats.
	And it talks about major issues like invasion and occupation of Iraq, where it says Green Party opposes, but Republicans and Democrats both support.
	And when you go to the details, it says even invasion of Iraq, most Democrats, if not Barack Obama, they supported that, they actually signed the authorization, and also still support the Patriot Act, invasion of Afghanistan, these are what Republicans, Democrats, they're all the same, Kosovo War, military budget, Israeli occupation of West Bank and Gaza, global warming, reduction of greenhouse gas emissions, a right to choose, national health,
	Insurance, it goes on and on and on, simply saying they're both the same.
	We've had Alex Jones already saying that, but Alex, back to you, if you have any more comments on whether or not to protect Republicans.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I have a lot of comments.
		At the end of the last segment, I was unable to finish what I was saying, so I'd like to finish that, but that dovetails, that connects in to your latest question.
		You know, both your guests are admitting that we're seeing continuity.
		Whether John McCain gets in, or whether Barack Obama gets in, you're going to see continuity.
		And that's because the big multinational corporations, the globalists, who openly own both the major parties, are in control of both of these men.
		And until the 1990s, you could get a third party in the debates.
		You could get other parties in the debates, and then the people could make a choice watching the presidential debates.
		That's why you had Ross Perot getting close to 30%.
		Since then, this private corporation, the Debate Commission, at the pressure from the Republican and Democrats, has closed the debates.
		And so, we need to have larger debates.
		The first debate should have 5, 6, 7, 8 different candidates.
		They should be real debates, not just questions and answers.
		You have the mainstream media here in the United States gives almost no attention to third parties or alternative parties, especially if they have any clout.
		And so we have a constriction in the amount of choices the public has by the controlled corporate press, you know, that's owned by the same banks and bomb makers that own the two major parties.
		And so that's the issue we're dealing here with.
		And Barack Obama He's only different from John McCain and George Bush cause medically and that's why Wall Street's giving him more money than anybody else because they believe he can neutralize the left to support these wars.
		He's talked about needing to have conflicts with Russia.
		He came out against Russia with what happened in Georgia when Georgia is now admitted in the State Department admits snuck attack the Russian held area of Ossetia and Abkhazia.
		We have all of this going on, and we have Barack Obama, no different from Bush when it comes to the banker takeover bill, known as the bailout.
		So the point I'm making here is Congress has an 11% approval rating.
		Now, in fact, that was a few months ago.
		Now it's a 9% approval rating.
		The lowest in U.S.
		history.
		I go back to that point.
		I'd like to hear your guest speak to this.
		The reason they have the lowest approval rating in history in the United States is because the people have figured out that both parties are controlled by the same interests.
		They just hate George Bush so much that they're giving Barack Obama a chance.
		And I'm telling you, Go ahead.
unidentified		Let's put the question across to Wayne Slater.
		Wayne, of course, the only body less popular than the President right now in the U.S.
		happens to be the Congress.
		So does that mean that the Americans are, right now, aware of the fact that Democrats and Republicans, as Alex suggests, well, simply are no different, and they're not the ones they want in office?
		That's part of it.
		I think that there are not distinct differences between the parties.
		Both candidates tend to, in this great race, tend to run towards the center.
		But instead of being a recognition, as Alex suggests, by the American public that they're owned by corporations of the corporate global elite, I think it's more the fact that Americans are simply not happy with their political institutions at all because they didn't do anything.
		They basically have become more polarized.
		The institutions of government, the way we elect people, the shape of our districts, producing different candidates and different office holders, And the rest of it has invited a kind of polarized, gridlocked, deadlocked in places like Washington, where you have, certainly under George W. Bush, a polarized environment where very little gets done.
		There's not a sense of compromise, there's a sense of my way or the highway.
		And for normal Americans, who are looking at their savings at home, or looking whether they can pay their mortgage, or they want to send their kids to college, And they watch these guys up in Washington, whether it's in the White House or in Congress, simply having such difficulty solving problems.
		That, I think, is more than anything else what has contributed to the lowest rating.
		Let us also take a look at the so-called third party.
		Why is it just Blue and red.
		How would you explain the Electoral College?
		Now, people voting November the 4th, but the real vote for President cast on December 15th when 538 people decided at the end of the day.
		Canadian press goes off to Electoral College, how Americans choose a new president.
		Quorin.com goes, Electoral College, our ballots should matter more.
		Forbes goes, the Electoral College, why Obama and McCain probably don't care about you?
		That means the voters.
		And we have another headline, popular vote versus Electoral College.
		This, of course, back in 2000 was quite notorious.
		So the electoral system in the U.S., is that really democratic?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I would like to comment.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		I'll get back to you, Alex.
		Let's have Wayne end this and then I'll get back to you.
		Very, very briefly, it is democratic in a sort of small way, but you're right.
		Institutionally, it works against the interests of a truly vigorous Yeah.
		different approach, which a third-party candidate has to do.
		And as Alex said, the most recent example of a vigorous third-party challenge, Ross Perot, happened because he was offering something truly different from the other two.
		You saw Teddy Roosevelt a century ago, who was offering something really different.
		In neither case did they win.
		But the institutions, I think Alex is right, the institutions, the mechanisms of the way we do it, including the Electoral College, which has been with us for a long time, does militate against the advantage of a third, more inventive, vigorous, interested, and different more inventive, vigorous, interested, and different approach to our government.
		Alright, now a challenge for Alex.
		Hold on just a few seconds while I go to Alondra.
		Doctor, I'd like to have your take on the democratic nature of the U.S.
		electoral system.
		Thanks very much.
		I'd like to come back, actually, to what Alex was saying, because I think there is a popular misunderstanding about the American political system.
		We talk about two parties, but I think you could make a very valiant claim that there are actually 50 parties, because the national party system in the United States is very, very different than it is here in England, for example.
		People are much more powerful at a local state level, which allows someone like Barack Obama to come forward and to defeat the sort of like the candidate of choice for the party, which would have been Hillary Clinton, for example.
		I'd also pull issue with this idea that third parties are not important in American politics.
		As Wayne rightly points out, we can think about the progressive movement, the Bull Moose Party of Theodore Roosevelt in the 20s.
		We can come forward to think about the Dixiecrats in the 40s.
		Alex talked about this idea that only until the 1990s could you have a party of a third party coming through to challenge me.
		But Ross Perot, of course, actually challenged in the 1990s.
		And if Alex is worried about the influence of big money in American politics, well, the only reason that Ross Perot was able to stage his remarkable third party success in which he achieved 19% of the electoral popular vote in 1992 was because he was a billionaire.
		So if Alex is worried about big money in America, I think Ross Perot is an interesting and perhaps contradictory choice to hold up as an example.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, let me counter that.
		What I'm saying, that's a misrepresentation.
		I was talking about the last time there was a true, strong third party challenge.
		I wasn't discussing Ross Perot's money or how Ross Perot got into that position.
		I was talking about the attempts since then to further freeze third party Candidates and parties out of the larger discussion and out of the media and a circling of the wagons by the two-party dictatorship that we have in this country.
		Now, let me just be clear here.
		The American people, it isn't that nothing's being done in Washington.
		Thousands of pieces of legislation are being passed, okay, at the state and federal level.
		The people are frustrated because 91% in every major Gallup poll want to control the border.
		Both parties say no, because the corporations want cheap labor and to drive down the wages.
		The American people, 75% or higher, don't want these wars.
		But both parties are still for it and still push it.
		On issue after issue, the Congress only has a 9% approval rating because the people understand that special interests are in control of the process more and more.
		They've always been there, but more and more, that's happening.
		So that's why this country is moving towards revolution.
		That's why the Army Times reported they have NORTHCOM, regular army brigades, pull it up yourself on Google, ready to, quote, deal with American insurrection.
		Because the American people understand that both parties are controlled.
		And you're right, they're hoping Barack Obama will do something different.
		They're hoping that it's all just rhetoric, that he's basically going to be lockstep with what George Bush did.
		Because George Bush was lockstep with what the last president did.
		Because it's a military-industrial complex that is using America as the engine of world government And the engine of empire for the Anglo-American establishment.
		So that's what we're dealing with here and so instead of just talking about the horse race, Barack Obama and of course John McCain, the supposed maverick, I'm pointing out that it's like a Don King boxing match where he owns both the fighters.
		Or it's like a horse race where all ten of the horses are owned by the same person.
		They're going to end up winning.
		I'm saying our system fundamentally is breaking down and is corrupt and we need gridlock in Congress.
		By the way, on the subject of the Electoral College, I'm all for it.
		Why am I for it?
		Our senators, until the 17th Amendment in 1913, were appointed by the state.
		They were appointed by the legislatures.
		Because the Senators were creatures of the state, so you couldn't have an all-powerful federal dictatorship.
		And so now our popular vote is counted at the state level, and then it goes up for the number of electoral votes that that state has representing its congressional districts.
		And then, and they've never gone against this, the Congress then goes with the popular vote.
		So it's the same system of state power, and that's what we're dealing with here, and that's why I am against a, quote, popular vote, because that allows more federalization and more control.
		Imagine if our senators were still creatures of the states.
		The states are being turned into vassals of the feds.
		This is empire, and we need to turn this around.
		We need to turn this around today.
unidentified		All right.
		Now, Alex, we need to move on to a very important issue.
		AP goes, the world closely watching U.S.
		presidential elections.
		And op-ed news is if the world could vote in the U.S.
		election.
		And of course, many believe Obama's international experience would go a long way in helping repair damage caused by the unpopular U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, with recent opinion polls from more than 70 nations favoring him, a resounding 3-1 over Republican John McCain.
		So Wayne Slater, what to say for the world's three-foot broad?
		Basically, I have to tell you that many American voters, if they knew that the rest of the world wanted Barack Obama, it would not be a positive for Barack Obama.
		On the other hand, there is a general sense, and I think Barack Obama is going to pull the troops out of Iraq.
		I think he's going to reposition some troops into Afghanistan, as he promised.
		And there is going to be a very active effort to reach out to the rest of the world in a way the Bush administration has not done.
		This is going to be a change, a difference.
		Now, maybe some critics don't think that's enough, but this administration is going to do that.
		I have great confidence that if Barack Obama is elected tomorrow, you're going to see a different America in terms of its relationship with the rest of the country, including the Middle East.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wayne, let me ask you this then, real fast.
		What is going to... Why, then, is Joe Biden and others saying, get ready for him to do something internationally?
		What is this crisis?
		You know, you're kind of an insider of the Democratic Party.
		I mean, you've been flying around with Obama.
		All these leaders, including in Europe, have said a major crisis on the 21st and 22nd of January when he is inaugurated.
		Colin Powell said it on Meet the Press.
		Can you please enlighten us and tell us what this major international crisis is going to be that Joe Biden says his running mate is going to be very unpopular with the left?
		Sounds like going into Pakistan to me.
unidentified		Wayne?
		That's entirely possible.
		Pakistan is a more aggressive approach to Pakistan.
		It's a possibility.
		What Biden said was that the new president, whoever it was, would be challenged, would be tested.
		Especially if it's a new president like Barack Obama.
		I don't know what it's going to be, Alex.
		It's going to be something.
		Somebody's going to rattle their sabers somewhere.
		But I do think that most forces, whether they're in the Middle East or elsewhere, whether it's North Korea, understand that there is a continuity, whether you like it or not, in the United States.
		And any challenge of this president, whoever it is, is going to be met by this government.
		Absent that, we're going to see a different approach and attitude.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree, it's going to be a velvet glove and that's why the corporations want him, because he can sell the world on accepting a couple more wars.
unidentified		Let's talk about continents right now, of course, the Middle East as well.
		Let's talk about transatlantic relations, let's talk about Latin America, let's talk about the Middle East, Iraq and Afghanistan, of course, briefly, but broadly.
		Well, I think it's interesting that the article you initially referenced talked about Barack Obama's international experience.
		I would have thought that if Barack Obama had a weakness, it was his lack of an international experience.
		I do hope the paper wasn't referring to his brief but glorious European tour, which saw him come to London and Berlin earlier in the summer.
		No sort of experience to debate upon whatsoever.
		John McCain arguably has a far greater international experience in dealing with the press and with the international leaders, so I think that's a little bit of a misnomer on that account.
		In terms of how he's going to deal with things, as I said earlier on, Tony's going to have an awful lot to do with this.
		I think he will be more prepared to take an aggressive stance with Pakistan and their perhaps inability... Does that mean a new war?
		Does it mean a new war?
		No, I don't think it means a new war.
		I think it means taking on a slightly different approach with regard to Pakistan.
		I think what Obama will do will be to shift quite rightly the focus away from Iraq towards the battlefront in Afghanistan and to hopefully try and alleviate the pressure which is on the British troop contingent in that part of the world.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But only on the surface.
		They're going to stay in Iraq.
		They're going to leave at least 50,000 troops there and bring in more?
unidentified		That's the question.
		Dr. Boyd, how about Iraq?
		Do you see just residual forces left in Iraq according to Barack Obama?
		What does he mean by that?
		50,000, 60,000 on a permanent basis?
		I mean, you know, I'm not an insider of the Pentagon.
		I can't comment upon exactly what figure is going to be there.
		I would agree with Alex that America, where it goes overseas, tends to remain.
		And this is one of the main arguments against it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so they're going to depoliticize it.
		Oh, it's a liberal, it's a Democrat.
		It's okay to keep the troops there, and then we'll just forget about it.
		Hang about.
unidentified		Not at all.
		I think one of the main complaints against American foreign policy is the idea that it doesn't have an exit strategy because it doesn't intend to ever leave.
		And I think there is a major problem there.
		I think the main shift is going to move away from Iraq towards Afghanistan.
		But I do think that as Armies after armies and centuries after centuries have discovered, the British included, Afghanistan is very much a black hole into which a number of Western powers have sunk, and I fear the United States is just going to be the latest in a long line.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I agree with you.
		It's collapsing right now.
		The forces are already pinned down in what, two or three major cities?
		I mean, Mohammed Karzai is really only the mayor of Kabul.
		And the rest of the troops are there just guarding the opium fields to make sure that gets shipped out to America's breakfast tables.
		But bottom line here, ladies and gentlemen, get ready for the New World Order.
		Get ready.
		They have announced that they're going to have a small group of private central banks running the world's finance, controlling everything through new international agreements, and Bush's legacy is going to be to demonize true conservatism, demonize the United States, And then basically set us up for the next phase of the New World Order globalism based out of Europe.
		And so, you know, basically I want it on record that George Bush is not from Texas.
		George Bush is not a real conservative.
		George Bush was a globalist puppet who was put in there to make everybody have rage and hate the United States so the establishment could then give us their new savior, their new world leader, their new world president, as Newsweek calls him, Barack H. Obama.
		And he is there to fool the world, and I'm telling you, we're in for hard times, ladies and gentlemen.
		Just get ready, and Afghanistan, and Pakistan, and encircling Russia, and that sneak attack that NATO and the U.S.
		did through their proxy in Georgia, and the nerve of our media, that shows how reckless they are, to come on our TV sets and say Russia snuck attack them.
		I mean, we're in a lot of trouble, and I'm telling you, They have told us, Powell listed the days this is supposedly going to happen.
		And I'm telling you, they're going to try to make him look like a tough war hawk.
		They may even do some more stage Gulf of Tonkin stuff to basically christen, have an inaugural terror event or something so that Barack Obama can pose as a savior.
unidentified		All right, we have about a minute left.
		We'll have a minute later.
		I'd like to have more from you on Obama and the international scene, if he's president, if polls are proven right.
		Thank you.
		The Palestinian issue, the Latin American issue... He's already promised in this camp.
		Yeah.
		He is going to be much more open in dealing with Latin America.
		He's going to be much more open, frankly, in dealing with Iran.
		In an effort to deal and to reverse the attitudes of the rest of the world.
		Bad attitudes about the United States.
		This is going to be a very different administration.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Good cop, bad cop.
unidentified		And with respect to going actively again war, the American people have no appetite for an active military expedition now after this debacle in Iraq.
		This administration will be governed by an American attitude in terms of the public.
		It will really be designed in engaging the rest of the world in a positive At least in a communicable way.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		corporate PR.
unidentified		The instinct is what we're going to see.
		All right.
		That's pretty much the time we had for another edition of Find for the very special one hours before November 4th, U.S.
		presidential election, what's at stake for the U.S.
		and the world.
		We'll have a special coverage of that.
		From London, we're joined by Dr. James Boyce, assistant professor of international political studies at Richmond, the American International University of London, and founder of the Resolute Group from Austin, Texas, by Wayne Slater, author and senior political writer of Dallas Morning News, co-author of Bush's Brain, How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush Presidential.
		He's also been in the playing of both campaigns for the past Thanks for having me on.
		Really appreciate it.
		Thank you, gentlemen.
		by Alex Jones, investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker, and owner of InfoWars.com.
		Gentlemen, thank you for your time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me on.
		Really appreciate it.
		Thank you, gentlemen.
		Enjoyed talking to you.
unidentified		Steve and to our viewers, always watch out for the fine print right here.
		Press TV with me.
		I'm here.
		Alex?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes?
unidentified		Thank you.
		You were so perfect, gentlemen.
		I wish to have you in our shows on Wednesday.
		I'm going to talk with you again.
		Thank you and have a great time.
		Enjoy yourself.
		And you were really perfect, gentlemen.
		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God bless.
		Sorry I got so fired up.
		Take care.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Thank you.
		Bye-bye.
		Bye-bye, sir.
		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bye-bye.
		Okay, we're back on Genesis.
		John Harmon, that all go good for the last 50 minutes?
unidentified		Yeah, it was excellent.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Come up on air, tell us what you thought of that.
		It was quite interesting to be on, you know, international... Yeah, I'm on Russian, I'm on British, I'm on Japanese every week now, pretty much, and a lot of these things they have me on by phone, so that's good.
		They're driving me down to the studios all the time.
		But I found the Iranians are just incredibly fair to the United States.
		I mean, people think of Iranian TV as just America-bashing.
		It's usually two-to-one.
		Against me, well not usually, it always is, where there's like pro, you know, nuke Iran stuff, you know, with the U.S.
		people, even on their own shows.
unidentified		Oh yeah, they think all foreigners are, you know, terrorists and whatnot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, Iran even puts on the American view, and so it's not fair and balanced.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They give the Western BS view two-thirds of the time.
unidentified		That's completely true, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I mean, but then meanwhile our Fox TV or CNN's like watching Looney Tunes or something.
		It's so biased and so full of lies.
		Ladies and gentlemen, I'm glad we could do that simulcast here on the Genesis Network to our AM and FM affiliates, Global Shortwave, Satellite, the Internet, and the rest of it.
		If you're listening at InfoWars.com or watching on PrisonPlanet.tv, you would have been able to see and hear the entire Transmission.
		By tonight, they'll also have one of their top new shows, worldwide and in Iran, will be up there in their archives.
		It'll just be in the programs.
		Click on the fine print and you can go and watch the video.
		Of course, you can see it at prisonplanet.tv.
		We're piping it in.
		But you can also watch it there with their feed without cutting into my video feed here in the studio.
		But great technology.
		Well, thank God for it.
		It's really hurting the New World Order.
		That's why they're trying to shut it down.
		I'm in Austin.
		Genesis is up in Minnesota.
		They're in London and Tehran.
		And you heard that all Nexus in.
		They were dialed in to London.
		They were dialed in to Austin.
		They were dialed in all over.
		That is definitely very, very interesting.
		Listen, we're going to have four hours of election coverage in your phone calls tomorrow.
		And then, of course, on Wednesday we'll cover election fraud and whatever happens.
		I hope there's no rioting or problems.
		But we'll keep following this.
		The point is, Barack Obama is a puppet and nothing's going to change but the rhetoric.
		They play good cop, bad cop.
		It'll be all the same policies, a different rhetoric.
		And so we'll see what happens.
		The torture, the secret arrest, the Military Commissions Act, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, the end of posse comitatus, the Patriot Acts.
		You're not going to see any of that repealed despite the fact that they're going to have the House, the Senate, and the Executive.
		Now that's the point.
		God bless you all.
		Rebroadcast starts in one minute at InfoWars.com on the streams and at the podcast, downloaded by millions every week.
		God bless you all.

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