Kevin Booth and Alex Jones dissect California's Proposition 5, exposing how the prison-industrial complex, backed by massive unions and private banks, profits from conflating non-violent drug offenders with violent criminals. They detail government conspiracies involving CIA-created crack cocaine, fake urine tests like the "Wizenator," and alleged corruption among law enforcement officers who fuel arrests while pushing dangerous prescription drugs on children. Ultimately, the discussion reveals a systemic design where financial interests drive societal control through mass incarceration and chemical dependency, challenging the narrative of voluntary drug policy reform. [Automatically generated summary]
For the next 52 minutes, we're joined by documentary filmmaker, musician, good friend of mine, Kevin Booth, also Bill Hicks' producer.
His program, of course, American Drug War, has aired, I don't know how many times, forty times or something, last time I heard, on Showtime.
It's getting ready to air again.
Very, very popular.
Created a huge buzz.
We happen to have the DVD available at Infowars.com.
Two-hour film and three hours of extras for $19.95 and you fund the filmmaking work of Kevin Booth.
But he's here because we've got the election coming up and there's different initiatives around the country to try to decriminalize Some of the drugs the government uses to get involved in our lives that they tend to ship in as well.
And we also have an expert joining us later in the interview, friends with Kevin.
We've got the founder and executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance, a New York City based non-profit organization working to end the war on drugs.
He's considered one of the most outspoken advocates of drug legalization.
Kevin, I appreciate you sub-setting him up for the show today.
When is he scheduled to join us on the transmission?
As soon as he gets out, he's on an Amtrak heading for his office right now, so as soon as he can get off of the train, so it'll be in the end of the hour.
Well, this is Proposition 5 here in California, and it's basically just, it's
Put it this way, the drugs are, the prisons, the massive prison guard unions, which I don't even cover in my film, which are very powerful out here, are working hard to stop this thing because what they try to do, which they've been very successful with in my film covers, is they make one single category out of non-violent drug offenders and rapists and murderers and they try to make it
So if you get caught growing a pot plant that you're gonna go and sit in jail with some guy who murdered and raped everybody.
Yeah, that was like one of the things that Bush did, you know, right around the creation of the Patriot Act, and coming out with that campaign that's in my film, the Nick and Norm campaign, where if you buy marijuana, you support terrorism.
What's funny about it is that I actually got the copy of that film, because I think the guy that plays Nick is actually a struggling actor out here in L.A., and some guy from an editing studio had his actor reel, and we were like, look at this actor's acting reel, and he was like Nick from Nick and Norm, and like fell over, dying laughing.
Tell the story about how you're flying around the country on the speaker's circuit, all these universities, institutions, people want to hear from you, with your award-winning film, and how they're trying to stop you from coming to the universities.
Well, first of all, I want to say the biggest conspiracy right now are the people making money off bottled water.
If you travel as much as I do, the biggest scam going at the airport right now is, uh, give us your bottle of water on this side of this thing, and then you cross through this thing, and then you go, here, you can buy another bottle of water from us, and then they throw all these bottles of water in this giant thing, and they probably Move them around back and re-consolidate them and sell them to you.
I swear, I was like, what are you going to do with all that water?
Are you going to give it to prisoners or something?
Or give it to Doc?
What do you guys do with all your bottled water?
But I mean, tell the story about... Oh yeah, so I was going to a university in Florida.
Where was this?
Fort Myers.
And somebody there on the faculty, some woman on the faculty started passing around an email to everybody Telling them that she was very upset that they were bringing me in as a speaker and that the young students didn't need to be exposed to something this controversial right before an election.
I mean, it's you and Bill Hicks acting stupid, you know, acting like you're going to ninja Ninja bachelor parties is like, that's my own Bill Ayers moment, right?
I do this little 15 minute set that's like a multimedia presentation with a monologue and then the Q&A.
You get to this section where I'm like, you know, how many kids smoke pot?
You know, half the room, you know, raises their hands.
You know, how many people are stoned right now?
Everybody's laughing and joking.
So out of the corner of my eye, there's this one other guy, a young black guy dressed in a pinstripe suit.
Doesn't really look like he fits.
So I get up and leave, and he's the next speaker.
He comes up out after me.
It turns out he was a narcotics officer.
And so...
The kids come to my show later and they thought that I had set them up because I'm like the cool guy that gets up there and I'm like, how many people in the audience do drugs?
Yeah, and those guys are totally sold into their system.
It's their career, so they've got to defend it.
And they'll argue, well look at all these unsavory types that are involved with drugs.
Yeah, because you make it illegal.
Now you've just given the criminal element something to make a lot of money off of.
But they've got a problem.
There are these bigger and bigger organizations forming, filled with former narcotics officers and others, that go in public saying it's all complete bull.
What is the system going to do when, like, 98% of the public has smoked marijuana at one time or not in their life, but they're still putting everybody in jail for it?
I think they're getting ready to have the 20 million man march somewhere, or something like that, that's going to mark the 20 millionth marijuana arrest or something taking place in March.
Meanwhile, it's really in the histories that they grew tons of not just hemp for rope and sails and cloth, but they grew the type of marijuana that actually has THC in it all over the colonies, they exported it all over the world, and that for stomachaches, all the same things it's medically used for today, that was one of the apothecaries that they gave to the barbers or the doctors.
But barbers were like, for those watching, kind of like mainline, general, kind of like a nurse that you'd go to.
Then they had doctors that were few and far between.
But that was one of their favorite remedies was marijuana.
And you can go read online.
They've got copies of the old manuals where it talks about have them smoke the bud, the sexual organ of the plant, That has the better effect.
Smoke it.
And then you can read where, even when he was president, you see George Washington's doctors for toothaches saying, smoke this in your pipe.
Listen, you know, you basically, I guess you could say God left us with three categories.
You've got cocaine, and then you've got the poppy opiates, and then you've got the THC drugs.
Now, we should get the more powerful ones that can kill you, that can shut down your breathing, that can stop your heart.
Those things are legal.
You can get those through a prescription.
Have been forever.
You know, you get dental surgery.
They give you liquid cocaine.
You get your tonsils out.
Liquid cocaine.
Pharmaceutical grade.
You know, opiate derivatives.
That's everything from Vicodin to Tylenol-3 all the way to Oxycontin.
All of that.
The whole opium-based category.
And then you move into the The cannabis thing, and they're like, oh, we got this Marinol pill, or it's like taking one would be like, you know, it's just nothing.
Well, remember Rush Limbaugh over and over again said he would defend those cocaine laws against blacks, where if it was crack cocaine, you get 20 years, but if it was a lawyer with powdered cocaine, you get a month or whatever, or probation.
And Limbaugh still defends that, even though he was caught taking 100 plus Oxycontins a day.
Let's get into the numbers, and they vary year to year, but it's always massive, of what prescription drugs and alcohol kill and cigarettes kill versus the devilish Mary Jane.
You know, and then marijuana, basically, It is physically impossible for marijuana to shut down your heart or to stop your respiration.
If somebody could physically, you couldn't smoke enough to OD.
Suppose like you melted it down into some substance and you drank it down like cough syrup, 10 pounds of marijuana.
The worst that would happen is you would fall asleep.
You'd probably wake up and maybe like trip and crack your head on the refrigerator while you're trying to like... The worst you're going to do is raid 7-Eleven for Blue Bell Dutch Chocolate.
Yep, for me it's like this.
I go to Trader Joe's here, they've got this cherry chocolate, forget about it, I'm hooked.
It's a way of, so it's not so much smoke, but vapor, and it's better for your lungs.
It just puts it in this superheated chamber, and then a lot of these higher end vaporizers, what it does is it shoots the vapor into a plastic bag, and then you inhale the vapor from the plastic bag, I actually tried that in Amsterdam, and it's just very, very cool, because really, smoking anything is not good for you.
The whole war on drugs, for those that don't know, is about cutting out their competition at the border and sending troops in to kill growers of coca and other things in Columbia.
And then domestically, it's about putting you in jail.
It's a business.
They're cold-blooded.
They think it's real funny.
I've even heard G. Gordon Liddy laughing on radio going, eh, we're spraying your weed with poison, go ahead and smoke it, you're going to get cancer.
But that's, I mean, but really that's what anybody who thinks this is either a conspiracy theory or that thinks drugs are like, but drugs are bad, but drugs are bad, you know, this is not funny to joke about.
You just need to keep telling, you gotta know though that the people that are doing this are getting rich off of it, and that's what's propelling it all.
And somehow they convinced the public that didn't exist and that government was loving and didn't have any avarice or any, you know, bad aims.
I mean, have you been watching the news where they're just announcing world government to be run by the private banks and it doesn't matter, they're the ones that engineered it and it's all over the news.
Even the New York Times reports they're just keeping the money for the shareholders and $500 million bonuses for CEOs.
Well, they believe that that actually secures their power.
They want to hurt people.
They want to make us all poor.
Because that makes us easier to manage.
They don't want upright, strong, good people with good morals.
They want just a bunch of, you know, globalist controllers and a bunch of evil, backstabbing scum down on the bottom all fighting with each other over diminishing resources.
Yeah, so is Cheney, where they can, you know... Well, Cheney likes girls, he likes boys, but... I'm serious, I mean, you know, for a Michael Jackson win, it's where you can do what you want.
Do you think she's for real, or do you think they just picked her knowing that she was going to make everybody just so... I mean... No, no, she's meant to make McCain lose.
I'm just saying, though, that do you think they created Sarah Palin, or do you think they just picked her because knowing how it was really going to go over?
Well, that's how they pick you, is you've already been compromised, you've already gone through the system, they already know your modus operandi, they already know your type, and then they select you.
So the answer is both, Kevin, in my humble opinion.
Kevin, I actually... If I close the door on a gecko... Well, you've lived in Texas.
You know, the geckos are running in and out of your house.
I mean, you're constantly finding them, little cute little pink things.
And I really like them.
I watch them eat bugs up in the light at night.
And, you know, I'll close the door and cut one in half and I can pick up its little bloody body and dig a little hole and bury it, put a little cross there, you know.
I mean, I don't like... As I've gotten older, And more maternal, I guess.
I don't like things.
But at the same time, people will say, don't hunt, it's evil.
But then they go get a hamburger when the cow was tortured to death.
Well, no, people have tried that and the cops show up and say, you're not allowed to do that, boy!
You ain't got no freedom!
I mean, how do they get that in their head that they can shove cameras down our throats and put them in restaurant bathrooms, but we're not supposed to film them?
Well, that's what they're doing over Dallas and other places with all these big flying saucers.
If you look at the phenomenon, most of those are high-powered holograms, which the Pentagon even admitted in the 80s they were developing to fool people.
Look, I guarantee you, they're going to have Jesus pop up and tell everybody to take the microchip and they're going to do it.
It'll be like in Monty Python, a big, TAKE THE CHIP!
I know, actually, I've got a friend of mine, T-Sean, he's a writer at Saturday Night Live, and I kept telling him, I was like, you guys should do a, you guys gotta do like a Ben Laden press release skit, you know, it would be perfect, you know, but have it where they're in a cave and it looks just like the White House press room with an official Al Qaeda flag, an official Al Qaeda logo behind them and everything like that.
And you could have the McCain character dressed up in a tribal thing, I don't know.
Well, I mean, when the Intel Center that uploads these keeps uploading the video with their logo in the same video layer as Al Qaeda's logo... They really think we're stupid, Kevin, I tell you.
You know, we laugh about it, but The big thing is they're getting ready for bioweapons releases.
And if people don't think people running our government won't kill 30, 40 million of us, you've got another thing coming.
I mean, he's all for the New World Order banking system taking over.
He's all for youth brigades.
It's going to be bad.
Get ready.
It's going to be real bad.
But the American people have never seen a scam they didn't love, so you know.
I mean, Kevin, they're openly taking all the bailout money and giving it to none of the in trouble institutions and just hoarding it all and giving it to themselves as bonuses.
And the New York Times even reports, I've got the quotes right here, New York Times Came out yesterday.
I'm not talking about legal insider trading by corporate officers that financial press follows.
I'm talking about the ministers and executives and it just goes on into all of it.
And it's got the New York Times here with the quotes.
It's got them recording the Goldman Sachs executives just bragging about how it's a great opportunity for them to consolidate and buy up more banks and give themselves record bonuses.
No, I mean, I'm here reading all this stuff, Kevin.
It's just unbelievable.
And so now they're saying, OK, maybe we'll take $50 million of the multi-trillion, it's not $100 billion, and maybe we'll give $50 billion to banks that actually have mortgage trouble.
Here's the JP Morgan CEO as recorded by the New York Times in a banking teleconference.
And they're all over the news saying this.
He says, What we do think is it will help us is perhaps a little bit more active on the acquisition side or optimistic side for some banks who are still struggling.
That means buying up banks.
And I would still assume that we are Done on the acquisition side, just because of the Washington Mutual or Bear Stearns mergers.
I think there are going to be some great opportunities for us to grow in this environment, and I think we have an opportunity to use the $25 billion in that way, and obviously depending on whether recession turns into depression, or what happens in the future, you know we will have that as a backstop.
And then he goes on to say they're not going to give any of it to people in loans.
We've got to do this to get credit going, and they're literally just giving themselves bonuses.
Goldman Sachs England, just that division, is giving $14 billion in bonuses to their executives.
Out of the money directly that England gave.
And then in the U.S.
they just say, we're keeping the money, but all that's secret.
Read the bill Congress passed.
You're not allowed to look at it.
Meanwhile they've got cops raiding our houses looking for marijuana when the government ships in all the real drugs.
Do you think, though, that if it comes out and everybody finds out that Obama was a big scam or that everybody becomes quickly disillusioned with the whole Obama thing?
Don't you think now with all these younger people motivated that We could be closer to some sort of revolution.
I mean, look, the British used drug prohibition in China to bring it down, because they could ship the opium in and then buy off the cops and locals.
Again, folks, all these drugs would be dirt cheap and be looked down on societally, but you make it illegal and all the bling, then everybody wants to do it.
I mean, they know what they're doing, folks.
When they lost alcohol prohibition, they then criminalized drugs.
I'm going to have to have you back up next week, briefly, Kevin, with the guest, because the guest you wanted to set up, Ethan Nadelman, probably got his time zone scrambled, so he never called in.
You know, everybody asks me to come out there, Kev.
I need to come out there and see, before he moves, he's going to Europe, Tommy Pallotta, I need to see Sheen, I need to see you, I need to see a whole bunch of folks out there.
Hey, I'll be back live this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m., and I am going to shift entirely into election coverage.
The abbreviated Sunday transmission, and Monday, and Tuesday.
Had a pretty good first three hours.
I was pretty hardcore and intense.
Kevin said he was listening.
Sounded pretty angry.
It was pretty good radio and I've been kind of relaxed in this hour.
You know, talking about Mary Jane.
I don't have time to get any more of your calls.
I apologize.
We'll have open phones again Sunday and Monday.
The rebroadcast is about to begin at InfoWars.com.
I hope you will.
Just keep fighting.
I know we get really negative and sometimes I even kind of get gloom and doom on air.
It's like so over the top how dirty and corrupt this government is.
I mean, it's disgusting.
And all the delusional, fake do-gooders that back it up in everything they do.
When they really trashed out a good country, and I've just had enough of it.
This financial looting thing has really gotten me.
I hope folks will go to Infowars.com and get American Drug War, filmed by Kevin Booth.
Two hour film, three hours of extras, really about two or three films in one.
Endgame, Terror Storm, just all the great films we carry and have made at Infowars.com or 888-253-3139.
Uh, Kevin, in the last few minutes, tell me about the proposition out in California so the criminal goons that run the government can't grab the people and the non-violent marijuana heads and put them in the slave systems.
Okay, well, it's known as NORA, the Non-Violent Offender Rehabilitation Act.
It's, uh, Proposition 5 will cut state costs and it's, um, It's being backed by a lot of good people and it's being fought against by some really bad people.
Absolutely, and really, they are going to lose a lot of money if they can't keep all these Um, non-violent drug offenders behind bars for years and years and years because that's how they make their profit.
If you don't live in California, but you know someone who does, make sure that, tell them to vote yes on Proposition 5 because I'll tell you, Uh, you know, if you just watch mainstream TV as I do, uh, it's kind of getting its butt kicked, in my opinion.
No, it is, really, and it has that, uh, that Feinstein woman on here, who's actually, you know, she's actually on the right side of several issues, so it's a very, very sneaky... Demonstein?
The government made all the stuff, the base ingredients of meth illegal, so the scum that makes it has to then find all these other sub-ingredients, so then it's full of all these toxins and poisons.
Everywhere I go is scum trying to menace me with their dog.
And it doesn't scare me.
I want to physically attack them and their dog.
And then the rest of the time, these people always get a dog and always attacks their niece or attacks the dog or kills the neighbor's cat or kills their own dog.
And then they make excuses for it.
And the fact is, is that it is genetics.
Not all of them.
But it's like Russian roulette.
And I'm just getting tired of these people with their dogs attacking all of us and then making excuses about it.
Well here in California what you have is that people have a pitbull that attacked or killed something or somebody and instead of putting it to sleep they don't have the heart so they take it to one of these rehabilitation shelters and then some unlikely dumbass comes and he adopts it And then takes it to an off-leash park where it comes and practically kills you.