Alex Jones and Bob Chapman dissect a Rand Corporation report alleging Pentagon lobbying to engineer war with China or Russia for economic salvation, linking these claims to Illuminati control since 1207 and Jeffrey Saut's recent CNBC assertions. They analyze Vatican and Fabian Society involvement in the New World Order, critique Goldman Sachs executive bonuses post-crisis, and expose alleged gold market rigging by hedge funds. The discussion extends to "vampire cops" in Austin, Australian internet censorship, and heavy metal toxins, ultimately promoting preparedness against global depopulation while challenging establishment narratives through InfoWars and PrisonPlanet. [Automatically generated summary]
First of all, they've broken the world financial system.
And this isn't the first time they've done it.
They've done it through the centuries many times.
But this is probably one of the three most serious breakdowns in history.
And that leaves the Depression out, which was not that bad considering.
Of course, if you lived through it, it was.
And being in this position, they have to create the diversion.
The diversion would bring them more power, more wealth, and more control over the people.
And that diversion, again, is war.
In fact, back in the early part of this century, And that's not so long ago.
We predicted the war and invasion in Iraq and Afghanistan and the event that would trigger it.
We didn't know what the event was, but we were pretty close in the timing.
We were within 33 days.
And so if you read history, you can see that they have done this over and over again.
So it's not anything special to be able to predict what these people are going to do.
All you have to do is find out what they did before.
And so, with that said, they have done Iraq and Afghanistan, and now, because their system is falling apart, they have to have a bigger and better war.
And that's what Paul Watson was talking about.
And one of the things I'm curious about is, how did the word leak out as to what Rand Corporation and the Illuminati was up to?
And I'd like to see if Paul has a comment on that.
Let's play that clip for those that didn't hear it.
The video's up on PrisonPlanet.com, but here it is.
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At least you're getting back to the point where you can start to look at fundamentals, and that's good news.
What happened?
I think you're in a liquidation phase.
I think Kirsten had it exactly right.
I think there's a bunch of wrong-footed moves by Hank Paulson and the Illuminati of the country, if you will, and I think we're paying for it right now.
Then they went over to England, set up their system there.
Then they got control of the British Empire in 1815, the U.S.
in 1913, and they are a murderous lot.
Bob Chapman's our guest.
Back after this quick break, for your phone calls.
Stay with us.
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You know, as a father and a husband, one of the enjoyable things in my life... John, just IM me, uh, the caller, since it was late.
Okay, you got it.
...making sure she has the things she needs, but mostly providing for my family and knowing that they are secure, that they feel comfortable every day in their little skins.
They don't have to worry about the oddities of the world taking over and wrecking their lives.
I've always wanted to be a good provider, and I'm not going to change that now just because the economy's in upheaval and because there's a lot of political and social uncertainty, and I hear about global famines, and I see the escalating prices in gas and food and oil...
Electricity's gonna go way up, I'm told, this winter.
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I don't gotta worry, okay?
I do hope that you'll join me in this new sense of American security.
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The last two pubs have called for world government, New World Order, merger of all the religions, and that's, we know, caused masses of conservative Catholics, or Christian Catholics, to leave.
But at the same time, there's a whole Israeli branch, and the Israeli government, we know, funds people to go around and say it's a Catholic-only program, a Catholic-only conspiracy.
And that's a way that they've tried to basically balkanize the awakening of the New World Order.
Every major group, you know, a huge institution is New World Order, or the establishment goes and takes them down.
You know, Iraq, countries like that we're not even saying are run by good people.
The point is they're not in the New World Order, so they're taken down.
And so, you know, so much of our energies are wasted on who's at the top of the pyramid.
We know it's the New World Order system.
Clearly the Vatican's involved.
But then we also have folks who are Israeli-funded, and they've been exposed, who run around trying to stir up fights, demonizing good people in the anti-New World Order movement, way overestimating the power of the Vatican by claiming everybody but them are secret Vatican agents.
And it's just asinine.
And then now we've tracked it directly back to the Israeli government.
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...publishing, and she said that, I mean, she's done pieces, I mean, obviously, of the Vatican they've had.
Very corrupt popes and very good popes.
As far as John Paul went, I mean, we don't have to go into this debate.
You tell that tree by its fruit, I think he did far more good than bad, and I wonder, actually, if there's a battle within the Vatican as well as a battle within our government.
Well, yeah, there's struggles, exactly, there's struggles on our streets, there's struggles, you know, in the cities, there's struggles between good and evil every day in everybody's life.
But, listen, I appreciate your call.
Listen, Carolyn Kennedy, I mean, who cares?
I'm not bashing her call, but who cares about these people?
They're all a bunch of establishment people.
Who cares about... I mean, all of this.
We know evil's in high places.
I expose and oppose the New World Order policies.
Whatever the New World Order's for, I'm against.
And that's why we're effective here, is about taking action, not breaking into a million different camps with every little weird strain of anti-New World Order.
Well no, that's what, listen, they said it was a bailout for the people and then they, but you notice the fine print so they can just keep it all and not even discuss it.
And so now they're saying, you know what, we're keeping all the money personally.
I mean, you know, the execs are saying it's ours, shut up!
And if you don't like it, the Army's standing by.
unidentified
Well I called my local bank just yesterday.
I've been dealing with them for, oh, seven, eight years.
I spent a lot of money in that bank.
And I talked to some of the tellers and stuff, and I threw up to them about this bailout that they're getting.
In fact, the big banks, the only thing that isn't going to bonuses to CEOs and people is buying other banks.
And then the little banks don't have a choice.
Because the big boys, the big banks control the regulators, they come in and hand them over.
Just like Bob said a couple months ago with Bear Stearns, Bob called it, he said, or was it Lehman Brothers, I forget now, he said, this is a takeover.
And Lehman Brothers was so far gone, they had messed that company up so much They had to let it go down.
But in that process, if you notice, the settlement on the derivatives was not announced.
All that was said was it was done with expediency.
That meant the government came in and come up with the money and lent it to the people who went naked on the derivatives and got caught outside for goodness knows how much money.
And my guess is anywhere between $5 billion and $270 billion.
And then they've got AIG, where they're stealing all the money, where they were bankrupt.
I mean, it's just incredible, and this gentleman can't get a loan to expedite the performance of his business.
And after speaking with tellers, they said, oh, we're not getting a bailout.
But what I've read, that they are getting a bailout.
And I had questioned some ridiculous fees that were on my account and said, hey, help us out here.
Well, as I started moving up the line talking to heads up in the bank, as they had mentioned this bit, they kind of giggled at me, almost like I had, like, who are you to have the audacity?
And the reason those rates are up is, particularly in U.S.
paper, like U.S.
treasuries and agencies.
In fact, the agencies are now guaranteed by the government and they're selling for a point to a point and a half, and they're AAA above the Treasury paper.
So obviously everybody around the world who is into buying those kinds of things is saying, hey, we don't want them, no matter whether you guarantee them or not.
So you've got to take that one step further.
If they're doing that, why are they doing that?
They're doing it because they think the United States is bankrupt.
Yeah, the Fabian Socialists set up in the 1850s in England to gradually bring in socialism and to consolidate the wealth of the middle class into the hands of the elites.
With the, uh, the saying of Omar Khayyam, uh, dear love, goodest.
Anyway, I think this is the key to the whole secret here of what's going on.
What they're going to do is shatter the world to bits, because as the Carnegie Foundation and the Ford Foundation said, war is the best way to remold society.
War, it will shatter society to bits, break it apart, and then they can remold it nearer to their heart's desire.
Which is a giant eugenics extermination camp, scientifically controlled, with men in black uniforms and psychiatrists, slaughtering and ripping human souls to pieces, in a giant charnel house of death and destruction.
Huge rotting piles of dead bodies, a new world or wonderland.
I'm skipping this break.
For the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, stay with us.
Continue Ed in South Dakota with the points you're making.
Yes, they want to order out of chaos.
They've said create a world banking crisis to then offer their world government, world banks running everything, setting world currencies, openly announcing new world order.
I mean, so much of war, info war, physical war, is making the enemy decide they can't win and breaking their spirit.
If somebody won't give up, they're basically, you can't beat them, unless you were like the Romans and then just killed everybody, but that was hard too.
And I guess that's what the population reduction is about, is they understand that, and they want to go ahead and just wipe most of us out.
Bob, with all your great insight there, Paul, all your hard work, I have a statement, a link, and a question.
With all this talk of the crisis, you know, especially nuclear aspect of things, I really want to know what prevents any public awareness and Well, those were conditioning programs to make people think there was this big threat.
Kind of like anti-terror drills they have now is to create the illusion or SWAT teams freaking out on cardboard boxes to give us, or local police trained by the feds for IED removal.
It's all about creating fear, but they've gotten rid of the civil Isn't that really important now?
I heard a lot of World War III talk today on the show.
people being the answer or the posse so so they've gotten rid of that uh...
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but i can go ahead but isn't that really important now would like com i heard a lot of world war three talk today on the show uh...
went back rather than you know back then isn't that really important you know to the american people nowadays to be like informed you know i expected by you know maybe more more of those type of programs after after the attack of nine eleven you know There's a really good layer... No, they don't want the people involved because it's a fake attack by the people running the government.
Well, I'm not as up to speed as you are on these underground bases, but the gentleman bringing up population control is important.
It's part of the reason why they do what they do, having wars to do away with people.
And to keep economies going and for people not to keep their eye on the financial and economic problems that exist not only now in the United States, but throughout the entire world.
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There's a link on YouTube.
If you search We The Altar, there's a lot of links to, you know, fallout shelters and how to prepare yourself for all this, you know, and I think it's pretty informative if you just search for that.
So I just wanted to add that, you know, I just think it's crazy that we're not preparing for that, you know.
In the story up on PrisonPlanet.com about the Pentagon looking into starting World War III, there's a link here to the Air Force Times from January of this year talking about similar things.
So, we know they've been wargaming all of this out, but this isn't a hypothetical scenario.
They're saying, let's go ahead and start a war to maintain our power.
Let's go ahead and take another call.
Bob, if you've got to go, I'll let you go, but I'm really enjoying taking these calls.
That'd be a great idea because we really haven't touched any of that stuff today.
We could do it briefly, just take two or three minutes, where I think things are going.
And the fact that, you know, we got blindsided on this downside in gold and silver and commodities and didn't realize how bad or how extended the hedge funds were at 30 to 200 to 1.
But this is nationwide, so people everywhere need to know.
They're federal funds that run these checkpoints to take your blood.
So we'll cover that too when we get back.
Again, Bob, what I'm doing with these breaks is we're not on the AM and FM, shortwave or satellite, but on my huge internet audience and PrisonPlanet.tv viewing audience, we skip a lot of these breaks here and just give the viewers kind of the behind the scenes as we have these discussions.
That's like three months ago when Cheney wanted to have Navy SEALs stage attacks on U.S.
ships in the Strait of Hormuz.
The White House leaked that, and that was confirmed to be, MSNBC reported on it, and so did, well, the first person to break it was Cy Hirsch, Seymour Hirsch.
White House sources, we wouldn't give the source out, but you know if Hirsch is reporting it, it's accurate.
As a matter of fact, my favorite stock is Agnico Eagle, and I see this evening at 6 o'clock Eastern Time that Shawn Boyd from Agnico Eagle is going to be on the Mad Kramer Show.
Fred and Philly, you're on the air with Bob Chapman.
unidentified
Okay, I have a question, Bob.
The Lehman Brothers bankruptcy, $639 billion bankruptcy that was declared.
People lost money that were debtors, and I don't understand how that was A hundred times bigger than the world, than the Enron stated figure for their bankruptcy of $6 billion.
They're just giving each other billions of dollars.
I mean, they're just stealing everything.
unidentified
Alex, I just want to, and Bob, I just want to say that I have, I don't have it in front of me, but I have a reference book that talks about the establishment of hedge funds as early as 1948.
And they started small, but the secrecy has kept these things alive.
And then they started getting into the options and futures and derivatives.
You have the real government, the real economy, guarded by men in black uniforms who do whatever the hell they want, and you've got all of us down here, the schmuck slaves.
That's got to change.
Alright, Ruth in North Carolina, you're on the air.
Go ahead, Ruth.
unidentified
Yes, Alex.
I've got a big complaint.
For three weeks, I have not been able to hear your program, 12160 in the afternoon.
It's just horrible.
And then when it's repeated at night, I can occasionally hear part of it, but never all of it.
The sun, in the 300 years they've been recording it, over 100 with devices, is the coolest it's ever been.
And so those solar flares do weird things, where you might hear an AM from China sometimes over here, or you might be able to hear shortwave great somewhere and then not hear it great.
Now, there has been jamming.
You know, usually when our website goes down, everybody says, we've been hacked.
Most of the time, it's not that.
We have been hacked before.
But nine times out of ten, it's not.
We have.
People have recorded it, where one show is clear, and then my show comes on and it goes Or they put a tone over it.
And we know that's been happening on the WWCR.
And I guess I could just quit being on there if that's what folks want.
I mean, I don't have the money to go lease other shortwave stations.
You know, we need somebody in your area to get us an Amorath affiliate or somebody with the internet to hook it up to a micro, you know, 100 water and broadcast to the whole town.
I mean, stuff's so bad now, the lawless government.
Yeah, and ma'am, what happens is you just call Vonage or another company, they come put it in, and then you have unlimited, and it's like $50 for the phone, okay?
And that's just making a phone call.
Let me give you a number, okay?
And if you can pay to call, because we can't pay for toll-free, this cost me $2,000 a month just to do this with 180 lines.
180 lines.
512-646-5000.
512-646-5000.
512-646-5000. 512-646-5000.
We've put in 188 lines, is it?
188 lines for people to listen free.
Now, I'm paying to put this out, but I can't pay for toll free.
I'm going to have to pay for your call, but I'm paying for you to be able to call it.
I mean, you know, they're shutting the web down, too.
Got big articles about that up there.
I mean, play the first 30 seconds of Australian TV.
Play it, John.
This is yesterday.
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And Senator Xenophon, who has an anti-gambling agenda, has said that he wants the system used to block out...
But first, making news this morning, the federal government will make internet censorship compulsory for all Australians.
The Daily Telegraph says controversial websites on euthanasia and anorexia could be banned, and that would put our level of net censorship alongside places like China, Cuba, Iran and North Korea.
A poll on Sunrise this morning asked, should the government censor the internet?
Now, 20% said yes, a whopping 80% said no.
Dale Claperton is from Electronic Frontiers Australia.
Point is, the same hubs to censor the web, and put it in the US, put it in England, put it in Canada, put it in New Zealand, put it in Europe, and they're turning them on.
That's only one way they're censoring.
Already, if you're on Time Warner Cable, you go through their hub.
If you do a wrong URL, you'll be on their site, you'll notice.
Yeah, actually, Alex, thanks for waking me up to all this.
I've been listening to you for about two years now.
And Robert David Chapman, I just wanted to get some... Well, I listen to G. Edward Griffin a lot, and he explains how when they print out more greenbacks and more Federal Reserve notes, That it's a form of taxation, and I think a lot of people don't really understand how that works.
I'm just having to go to you briefly because we've got to end this soon with Bob Chapman and have a little mini guest on real fast.
I just want to make it clear here that as bad as this stuff sounds, you know, we're just telling you the facts as we know it and meeting the threat and being honest about the threat is the best way to counter it.
But the reason I think Bob may be right just about how quickly things may degenerate is that They're going for broke.
I mean, when it's in the Associated Press that they are taking the trillion plus bucks they put out first as bonuses and to buy up other banks as a consolidation and a vertical integration, and they admit that we were lied to about what it was for.
We told you that day one.
We could read the bill.
The fact that they just don't care shows they've made the decision to just go all the way.
I agree, and that's where we're headed, and people have got to wake up, and they've got to wake up fast, and they've got to try to do something about it.
Now they're down to $215 to $230, and as soon as the election's over and the money starts to really hit the economy that they've injected into it, then the commodities will go back and retrace 50% of their losses, as will gold and silver.
And at the same time, the stock market will be under pressure and it will go down and plumb new Recent lows, if you may.
All right, got to let you go, caller, because Bob's got to leave, and I've got a mini-guess coming up about fighting these checkpoints.
Bob, and we'll talk to the break, too.
I don't want to waste any time.
Things are so serious.
But for the full audience right now, folks can get a free copy of the newsletter.
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Let me go to Bob now.
Did you get this Bush person on, John?
John Harmon.
Yes, sir.
Go ahead and get John Bush on.
Yep, I got him on the line.
Alright, alright.
I want to bring him up in a minute here behind the scenes, but I want to say bye to Bob Chapman.
Bob, appreciate you coming on, but here, just for the internet audience, gold's gone back up some this week.
I know, and it's a two-tiered market.
One is controlled by the powers behind government, which is the ComEx and the CBOT markets.
bought three weeks ago and then it drops 150 bucks i mean it's just la la land i know and it's a it's a two-tiered market uh one that's controlled by the powers behind government which is the comics and the c-bot markets and then there's a real market which is a physical market where there's virtually nothing available Yeah, gold's plunging in price, but you can't find it anywhere!
That's right, and so you can see the proof of the manipulations going on.
They've got gold down in the December month today, $20, but that's nothing.
You get an election coming up, and they'll want gold to sit still or be slightly weaker, and they'll want the market to go up, as I explained a couple of weeks ago.
And after the election's over, the things will change and Goal will take a run, along with Silver to the upside, and the market will start to filter back down again.
I want to talk to somebody behind the scenes real fast.
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Okay, I'm going to get you back up to 30 minutes tomorrow.
This is a big subject.
I had the police chief in here who I like overall, but he's wickedly taking money from the feds for warrantless blood sucking.
We've had lawyers on.
These are fake group warrants.
Tell us what's coming up in Austin and also under federal grants nationwide on the high holy day of Samhain tomorrow.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Well, on July 1st this year, KXAN published an article titled, Austin Police Chief Wants to Take Your Blood.
There's a quote from AltaVedo in which he states, My intent in the future is to make it so there is no such thing as a refusal.
You can refuse all you want, but we are going to aggressively seek search warrants.
So we caught wind of that.
We stormed a downtown area commander's forum with over 200 people, and we started questioning them.
They played dumb.
They said there's not going to be any major change in policy.
We got all the documents.
It turns out that Chief Acevedo has already applied for a federal grant from the National Highway and Traffic Safety Administration, which would train the DWIA.
Hey by the way cops do you have any idea the liability they've tried this in other states and had to stop first the nurses won't then they make the cops do it then the cops jab it in diabetics arms and others and can't get the blood people go into shock plus it's dangerous for the officer with these needles you're out of your mind say no.
unidentified
I've been talking to police officers they're against it they don't want to have to get that liability but you know there's some of those jackbooted thugs that are you know they're fiending for that blood the vampire police.