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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
jason bermas
Alex Jones is taking the day off, folks.
I'm back.
I haven't been back since, really, the end of the summer.
I'm Jason Bermas.
unidentified
I'm going to be sitting in all four hours today, but it's jam-packed.
We're going to be playing a lot of the Willie Nelson, Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura conversations that we threw up on InfoWars.com in the wee hours of the morning last night, I guess.
I don't know.
3 a.m. is kind of a vague area.
I guess they started going up at around 11 to 1, but Last one got up there at three, but we're even going to have some more for you.
We're also going to have Willie on the bus exclusively in the second or third hour.
We also have Webster Tarpley on to talk about the elections and of course other things, and Ray McGovern will be on later as well, the 26-year CIA veteran, the intelligence analyst that would literally do the briefings for Dick Cheney and company during the Reagan administration.
So, big show today.
jason bermas
Right off the bat, there's a couple things I want to talk about.
unidentified
We're going to do a news blitz later.
We're going to talk about We Are Change, talking to Sarah Palin about 9-11 and the new investigation.
I've got to tell you, she gave a pretty generic, milk-toast, positive answer very quickly.
And I think that's because, A, she wasn't on camera, and, you know, she's on a campaign trail.
She's not there to ruffle any feathers right now.
She's sitting there and shaking hands with the audience.
And I'm sitting here staring at the Newsweek with a rifle over our arm.
jason bermas
I mean, let me just...
unidentified
Ah, it's in the beginning segment.
jason bermas
I don't want to go off on Sarah Palin too much, but what a joke!
I haven't really been able to vent, I guess, about the election too much.
unidentified
What a joke that this woman was even chosen as a vice presidential candidate.
Literally a heartbeat away from somebody who's not in the best health.
jason bermas
I'm sorry, but if you haven't seen McCain on the campaign trail the last 18 months, two years, he looks like death itself.
I mean, the man is a walking corpse!
unidentified
I don't think he can survive four years in office, quite frankly.
You know, not that it really matters.
Both of them are really severe puppets of the establishment.
jason bermas
Sarah Palin, I mean, she's got three kids.
You know how much time that takes alone?
And she's the governor.
Yeah, I guess she's a little career-driven.
unidentified
But, uh, you know, she's corrupt just like the rest of them.
She's a human being, and she'll just go along to get along.
I mean, she's already in this, quote-unquote, conservative party that's anything but conservative.
And when, anyway, she, she says she's in favor of a new investigation, but I, you know, she says it's to keep in the minds of people.
jason bermas
We'll play that clip later.
unidentified
Of course, we're going to talk about the, uh, quote-unquote, failed assassination attempt on Barack Obama.
jason bermas
That's pretty breaking.
unidentified
I'm pretty curious to see, you know, these guys apparently are white supremacists.
We're going to play a mainstream clip from CBS that we're going to try to shoot him with a scope rifle at 750 yards.
I'm not sure, but I saw some people in the media reporting something about a decapitation.
I didn't see anything about that in this one.
I'm wondering, you know, obviously there's racism in the world, folks.
I'm not advocating that.
Obviously there are people that It would have a vested interest in just killing this man out of hate, not because of what he stands for or anything like that, but just because of the color of his skin, and that's unfortunate.
But I want to see if these guys are in an organization, what kind of ties they have, because you know that these guys get caught all the time being coddled and prodded by feds.
jason bermas
It's the way it is.
unidentified
They infiltrate very quickly, and they put these ideas in their heads.
And then, lo and behold, it comes out it was a fed-up, and this and that, and to strike fear into people, or actually to carry it out.
jason bermas
So, let's see where that goes.
unidentified
I want to get Tarpley's opinion on that.
Obviously, he's weighed in heavily in the election in the last year.
jason bermas
And we're going to talk about Lou Dobbs doing, like, a nine-minute report, basically saying what we've been saying for years, what Alex has been saying for well over a decade now, that martial law ... is a very big concern here in the United States.
This is the Alex Jones Show, PrisonPlanet.tv, PrisonPlanet.com, and we're going to come back with a little Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura, and Alex Jones.
unidentified
May I have everybody's attention, please?
I've come with a message of information.
9-11 was an inside job.
luke rudkowski
Do you like being a puppet, sir?
jason bermas
Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
luke rudkowski
How do the American people know that 9-11 was a stage?
was engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR.
unidentified
The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of just patism to grow at our own door.
Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
An inside job?
How dare you?
I don't know.
If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.
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jason bermas
All right, folks, we are back.
And I'm just going to jump right in to a little bit of a conversation with Willie, Alex Jones, and Jesse Ventura.
unidentified
Jesse really recounts when he went down to the governor, and all of a sudden, he was asked to go downstairs.
And a bunch of people told him that they were from the CIA, and they wanted to talk to him.
And he said, well, you know what?
Let's let Jesse tell the story.
jason bermas
Because obviously, he can tell it a lot better.
unidentified
than I can.
music plays So I, being like a typical former service guy, felt that I guess it's my obligation to go down and, you know, talk to these guys.
So I went down, and being who I am, I got down there and, you know, in the bowels of the Capitol, right in the Capitol, I mean, it was in the basement.
I'll never forget it.
They were seated all in a big half circle and I got the chair in the center.
And that's where I was put, with this half circle group of 23 members of the CIA.
And I think the first thing that really made me Got my awareness up was as I looked at them all they were all your neighbors.
I Mean you weren't looking at James Bond here You know you went down there with the feeling you were gonna walk in and see all these Former Navy SEALs and former Delta Force guys who are now out and they're now working in the intelligence community and all this It was Grandma Jones down the street.
It was so-and-so.
I mean, they were of all ages.
You knew them?
No, I knew none of them.
They looked like regular people.
That's the part I didn't do, Willie, is the fact that when I looked at them, I saw my neighbors.
Not actually.
What I meant by that, Willie, was I saw My people just like my people you'd never suspect.
Because these are people in the Central Intelligence Agency.
They were of all ages, all colors, all looked like almost different categories of wealth.
What kind of training do you think they had?
I don't know.
This was part of it though.
I'm sure they get trained.
And actually I found out this was actually many of them's part of their training.
This was a training exercise that was likewise going on as well as fact-getting.
And so I sat down and I looked at them all because I wrote about it in my last book and so I don't mind talking at all about it.
I remember I looked at them all and the first thing I said, I said, well, I said, before you ask me any questions, I've got a few for you that I'd like answered.
I said, quid pro quo.
You know, if you ask me questions, I get to ask you questions.
And I said, my first question is, what are you doing here?
And the head guy, they were very formal, they were always governor, sir, very much that way, very respectful.
But I remember the head guy looked at me and he said, uh, what do you mean, governor?
And I said, well, what I mean is that your mission statement says you're not to be operational inside the United States.
What are you here for?
This is clearly inside the United States.
Well, I got hemmed and hawed and didn't really get an answer.
You know, double talked and all that.
Then I said, my second question, I said, I want to go around the room.
And I said, I want you to tell me your name and what you do.
Half of them wouldn't tell me their names.
Half of them wouldn't tell me what they did.
Who knows if they're really telling you their correct name?
No way of knowing.
And so I said, well, look, if you're not going to cooperate fully with my questioning, I said, I'm probably going to find it difficult to fully cooperate with yours.
It's got to be equal here.
So I ended up, and the amazing thing, like I said to Alex, or made mention to him, was that all of their questions dealt about how I won the election.
They wanted to know what we did, how we did it, did we think, da-da, da-da.
And so when I got done that day, I drove home, and all the way home, I kept thinking, it was on my mind, and I kept thinking, who would I call?
Who do I know that could answer these questions for me or help me?
And then the name popped up, Dick Marcinko.
Do you know who Dick Marcinko is?
Richard Marcinko is the author of the Rogue Warrior books.
He's a 32-year member of SEAL Team.
And Dick created SEAL Team 6, which is the anti-terrorist unit.
These are the guys that have hair like you, Willie, and beards, and you'd never suspect they're in the United States Navy.
They're deep undercover, you know.
And Dick created them.
He created Red Cell.
And Dick retired after 32 years.
He's a good friend of mine.
So I got home and I rang Dick up.
I told him what happened that day and I says, Dick, I said, you got any idea why the CIA 23 members would want to interview me?
And Dick starts laughing on the other end and I said, what's so funny?
He said, well, he said, I don't, he said, I've been out of it a few years.
So he said, I can't directly tell you why.
He said, I don't know directly why, but he said, I have an idea.
And I said, well, Dick, your idea is going to be better than mine.
I said, I had six years in the Navy, you had 32. I said, you got a lot more expertise.
I said, what's your idea?
He said, well, he said, here's what I believe.
He said, they didn't see you coming.
He said, and then it made sense.
He said, their job is to gather intelligence so that they can report that to the government and the government can then make decisions based on the gathering of that intelligence.
He said, clearly they didn't see you coming.
They wanted to know how you did it.
And they also wanted to know, are there more of you on the horizon?
Is this a trend we're missing?
Are we missing something here that could be happening within the United States like the next election?
Are we going to see four more independent governors win?
Or is Minnesota kind of an isolated incidence here?
And when Dick got through saying that to me, I thought he's right on.
That's exactly what it was.
Well, there you go.
Even more evidence that this shadow government, this conduit of government special interests, corporations have really taken over.
jason bermas
And, you know, I want to play this Dobbs clip.
I don't want to just play clips here.
But it's really important for people to understand how all this stuff has been integrated.
unidentified
And I'm going to go over this with Tarpley and really on a mass level on 9-11 as well.
jason bermas
I mean, this is really where they tested out whether or not they could get out with a massive military operation inside the United States, a false flag op here, using military drills, using continuity of government as a cover.
And that's what's brought us here today, seven plus years later, with Lou Dobbs finally coming around, finally coming around and saying, I mean, this is a big report right here.
This is on CNN.
unidentified
All right?
jason bermas
He's literally talking about, finally, posi commentatis.
unidentified
I want to let people know we're streaming over at PrisonPlanet.tv, so when we play clips like this, you're probably going to be able to see the video.
We got a little bit of a setup fix here.
There's no more humming on the laptop, so we can stream everything right from here.
It's a little easier on John Harmon up at GCN headquarters in Minnesota.
And I also want to get Tarpley's take on, you know, how far continuity of government has really come now with this bailout.
Because we're talking about a massive, now, economic takeover.
jason bermas
I mean, they've done it before.
unidentified
Like I said, Ventura mentioned to us this all happened in the 80s when they took over the farming industry.
And I believe that was also discussed on the bus.
We may have that in the second or third hour.
We're going to have a little bit of Willie Nelson on the bus.
jason bermas
1.30. 1.30.
unidentified
That's when that's coming on.
So that should be pretty exciting for everybody.
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Now, I'm gonna start playing some of this Dobbs, because I think it needs to be played.
We'll get into the Barack Obama assassination later, but here we go.
jason bermas
Here's the Dobbs martial law clip.
unidentified
This is Moneyline with Lou Dobbs.
jason bermas
Lisa Sylvester is the reporter.
unidentified
Questions tonight about an army combat brigade being trained to deal with civil disturbances in the United States.
The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 generally prohibits federal uniformed services from carrying out domestic law enforcement duties, except in cases expressly authorized by the Constitution or an Act of Congress.
Critics say the brigade's training goes against one of the founding principles of our country, separation of military and civilian government.
Louise Schiavone has our report.
They've spent 30 months on the streets of Baghdad.
Now the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division is back in the USA.
The Army Times reported, quote, they may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios, end quote.
The question arises, why?
And isn't that what the National Guard does?
Infantry Brigade is designed to engage an enemy with maximum effective force and destroy it.
That's not the sort of thing anybody wants to see.
In the streets of the United States.
Almost 5,000 strong, the brigade is based at Fort Stewart, Georgia under quote, the primary purpose of this force is to provide help to people in need in the aftermath of a WMD-like event in the homeland so that were they called to support civil authority, those governors or local state jurisdictions that might need our help, that they would be responsive and capable in the aftermath of an event like this, end quote.
On Capitol Hill, questions about how the Pentagon determined that a thinly-stretched military with two conflicts underway could spare these troops.
That's a misuse of assets.
Those assets can be deployed, I think, more efficiently somewhere else when you have a guard that you can call up on a moment's notice.
Historically, the posting is unusual.
In modern history, Army troops have been used at extraordinary junctures.
Under the first President Bush to contain the 1992 riots in Los Angeles, under President Lyndon Johnson in response to Unpopular presidents,
on edge about their capacity to lead, to invoke public support for whatever it is they think needs to be done.
Lisa, the Army Times journalist tells us that the story has generated intense public interest, and four weeks into a...
jason bermas
Intense public interest?
unidentified
Are you kidding me?
jason bermas
Did you just hear that, folks?
When was it there?
unidentified
Um, during the Depression?
Uh, during the riots?
And under Bush 1 in the 90s under those riots.
jason bermas
That's great.
Only now it's more of a permanent thing.
unidentified
They're building bases here.
jason bermas
It's the real deal.
Martial law.
Already in the United States.
unidentified
Imagine when they're on the streets everyday life.
jason bermas
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unidentified
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Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
unidentified
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jason bermas
Jason Burma subbing in for Alex Jones today.
unidentified
We're going to have Tarpley on in about 30 minutes.
jason bermas
And at 1.30 we're going to play Willie Nelson on the bus discussing a host of issues, you know, from the rape of the farmers in the 80s and where it's really gotten to today and, you know, the problems in the country today, 9-11 truth, the whole shebang.
And, uh, speaking of 9-11 Truth, I guess I should play this, uh, this Palin clip, or a little portion of it, and, uh, hopefully people will be able to hear it.
unidentified
It's in a, uh, very crowded...
You know, she's campaigning.
I mean, come on.
Let's... Let's be real here.
jason bermas
So, hopefully you guys will be able to hear it.
unidentified
Here we go.
Thank you for being...
And there's a story over at PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com by Paul Joseph Watson.
But, you know, again, she's on the campaign trail.
She doesn't know she's being taped.
You know, I doubt she has any idea what any of these host of issues there are on 9-11.
So, you know, again, how is this woman qualified to run the country when John McCain dies?
I mean, let's be honest.
jason bermas
He's an older gentleman.
He's not the pillar of health.
unidentified
We're not electing Jack LaLanne, or we're not electing anybody.
jason bermas
They're really selecting whoever they want with their Diebold machines and their corruption, which makes me sick.
unidentified
So with this first-hour news blitz, I guess I should get into these, uh...
I guess they're calling them skinheads, but I saw a couple of the mugshots and they both had hair.
Apparently one of them has a neo-Nazi tattoo.
I'm not saying they're not neo-Nazis.
There's plenty of racists out there, folks.
There's plenty of ignorant people.
jason bermas
So let's see what CBS has to say.
unidentified
And like I said, I want to see if these guys perhaps were provocateured, if they are part of some ridiculous Ku Klux Klan or neo-Nazi organization that has been infiltrated by the FBI.
jason bermas
Because the FBI loves that stuff.
It's called order out of chaos, divide and conquer.
unidentified
They like to stir up Conflicts with race.
jason bermas
Conflicts with religion.
unidentified
It keeps the masses ninnying about little things, and at the same time it becomes very real because people buy into it, and then it creates this conflict where they're able to put in their own rules and regulations, put them in their privatized prisons, and you know, the private corporations will use them to be a telemarketer for 39 cents an hour and ask you if you want to change phones or You know, perhaps get this new insurance plan.
jason bermas
Isn't that lovely?
unidentified
I love how America works, don't you?
Well, I'd like to change all that.
With an alleged plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Tonight four people are under arrest.
CBS 4 investigator Brian Moss has learned exclusive details just within the past few hours.
Brian, one man told the FBI there was actually a plan to shoot Obama Thursday night at Invesco.
That's indeed part of what we found out Jim.
Unsettling information.
And clearly federal authorities are taking this very seriously.
Tonight we've learned details about this apparent plot that has law enforcement now trying to connect the dots.
Early Sunday morning, police in Aurora pulled over 28-year-old Theron Gartrell on a routine traffic stop.
The driver of a vehicle was driving erratically.
The maneuver appeared to be going from one lane erratically into another lane.
It turned out to be anything but routine.
In his rented pickup truck, police found two high-powered scoped rifles, a bulletproof vest, two wigs, a spotting scope, two walkie-talkies, a wireless phone, three IDs in other people's names, part of a pistol, camouflage clothing, and 4.4 grams of methamphetamine.
One of the rifles is listed as stolen out of Kansas, according to the ATF.
Members of the agency are clearly on a heightened alert based upon the security that's involved with a convention the size of the one that's occurring in Denver.
And so, behavior like this can be characterized as highly suspicious.
According to an FBI bulletin shared with CBS 4, Gartrell told authorities the weapons belonged to a friend, Nathan Johnson.
Police arrested Johnson and his girlfriend at a Denver hotel on drug charges.
At the same time, the Secret Service hit this hotel in nearby Glendale early Sunday morning to talk to Sean Robert Adolph, an associate of Gartrell's and Johnson's.
But Adolph jumped out a sixth floor window to escape police.
He suffered only a broken ankle.
When he was arrested, the FBI says he had a...
Alright, folks, we'll be back with the rest of the Barack Obama assassination attempt.
Tarpley coming up and Willie Nelson on the bus.
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jason bermas
This is the Alex Jones Show.
unidentified
I am Jason Dermot.
Improving once again.
I am anything but perfect.
I'm a human being.
jason bermas
I just played a clip from the assassination attempt over at the DNC.
unidentified
But this is a whole new plot.
jason bermas
And it's over at the Drugs Report.
There's a couple articles about it.
Let me read it off here.
Skinheads and Obama assassination plot.
And it's wacky because they show a picture of...
Apparently they're going to wear top hats.
So they show a picture of Dumb and Dumber.
unidentified
Where they're in the stupid little tuxedos.
One of my favorite little movies.
I don't know why they'd associate that.
I guess it's a big joke.
Two white supremacists who plotted a killing spree targeting African-Americans that was to culminate with the murder of Senator Barack Obama have been arrested on a variety of federal charges.
jason bermas
According to the court affidavit sworn by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives agent Daniel Cowart, 20, and Paul Schleschman, 18, began discussing the murder plot after meeting online about a month ago.
unidentified
Okay, so these guys met in some kind of racist forum, perhaps?
In the ATF affidavit, a copy of which you'll find below, Coward and Chesswoman discuss the killing spree to include targeting a predominantly African American school, going state to state, while robbing individuals, and continuing to kill people.
jason bermas
Alright, yeah, that's realistic.
unidentified
Come on.
jason bermas
As soon as you start a killing spree in one town, you're probably gonna get killed.
unidentified
The pair's final act of violence would be an attempt to kill Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee.
In separate interviews with investigators, the men said they planned to spread their vehicle towards Obama while shooting at him from the windows, apparently befitting the historic assault.
Coward and Sussman stated they would dress in all-white tuxedos and wear top hats during the assassination attempt.
Jeez. Cowart and Stesselman were arrested last Wednesday night by Tennessee Sheriff deputies soon after the pair used chalk to write numerous racially motivated words and symbols, including a swastika, on the exterior of Cowart's automobile.
Cowart left and Stesselman are pictured in these mugshots snapped by the Crockett County Sheriff's Department.
As a result of this bizarre plot, the wannabe assassins were named in a three-count federal felony complaint, a copy of which you'll find here.
And then there's the affidavits pretty quick.
Uh, Brian A. Weeks, I'm employed with a Special Agents.
Um, da-da-da-da-da.
jason bermas
Pond conducting separate interviews.
unidentified
White power and skinhead views.
Killing 88 people and beheading 14 African Americans.
jason bermas
That's right, they were going to behead people as well.
This is just off the charts weird.
unidentified
Huh? I mean, when you see a picture of these guys, it doesn't look like they could be capable of any of this.
I-I mean...
Who knows, maybe these are just medded up kids.
You know, something like a, uh, mind control thing.
I don't know.
I don't want to venture off, but it's very bizarre.
jason bermas
They're very young.
unidentified
Uh, you know, these guys are just...
I can see that there is a swastika tattoo on the one guy holding a scoped rifle.
jason bermas
But think about that.
unidentified
They're going to kill 88 people, behead 14, and then kill the president in tuxedos and top hats?
I mean, did these guys have the tuxedos?
jason bermas
Obviously, they had the weaponry, and they're delusional, and they met on the internet, and they're a threat.
But, um, you know, where is it?
unidentified
I want to get Tarpley's take on it.
jason bermas
We'll go over it in about 25 minutes when we have him on.
You know, I've been on for about 35 minutes.
I really haven't promoted anything that we do here over at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlan.com.
unidentified
And I am a filmmaker.
I just put out a film called Fabled Enemies.
About two months ago now, and you can get it over at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, watch it in high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv, but, you know, being with Jesse Wintoura and Alex Jones, and of course Willie Nelson, all day two days ago, you know, we talked a lot about, you know, what was going on and how it was handled.
jason bermas
And Alex, you know, really I'm a six year old, Alex. And why this is important in this whole system, I mean, we're days away from an election.
Of course, we're going to talk about that later with Tarpley as well.
But it doesn't matter.
They've put in four establishment candidates.
And by...
Why do I say four?
unidentified
Two people are running for president, Jason.
jason bermas
Well, the other guys are really there.
I mean, again, McCain's a walking corpse.
And if somebody who is not quite as delusional and fairytale and much more psychopathic and sociopathic and racist Truly did want to try something on Obama for nothing but the color of his skin.
Who knows?
unidentified
You know?
jason bermas
I mean, game over.
I mean, chances are it would be the globalists if it was allowed to happen, if it wasn't foiled.
unidentified
But you never know.
jason bermas
So, those two candidates, McCain and Obama, I mean, you've really got to look closely at who they chose for Vice President.
And I went over Sarah Palin in a segment before.
unidentified
And, you know, if you guys want to call in, maybe we'll take callers next segment.
We can talk about anything you want, especially the election and what you think about these candidates.
jason bermas
But Sarah Palin is going to go any establishment route they want, and Lord knows, I mean, Lord knows who the VP there will be.
unidentified
And then there's Joey B, or Joey Biden.
And Joey Biden's in my latest film, Fabled Enemies, you know, cracking jokes and laughing about, you know, funding a 9-11.
jason bermas
The student scholars for 9-11 Truth got him on record saying there would be a lot coming out about 9-11 across the board as this administration left, which I think will be the case.
unidentified
However, he's a Council on Foreign Relations gentleman.
For new listeners, the Council on Foreign Relations is like this...
jason bermas
I don't know, I guess they call it the upper class, but really not the super upper class.
I mean, this is mid-level minions, but they're little think tanks where they begin to set policy with one another and hobnob and this and that.
unidentified
And he's been with them for years.
jason bermas
He's well aware of the quote-unquote New World Order.
unidentified
And these are the people that control the race.
I mean, they control your thoughts.
I hate to say it.
jason bermas
I don't want to sound so cynical and off-the-wall, but yeah, I mean, they project everything you see, hear, consume.
I mean, it's crazy!
They own the media.
I mean, think about it.
unidentified
You turn the television on, no matter what mainline station, they're talking about the election, somehow, someway.
jason bermas
And these four people who are campaigning.
unidentified
So going back to, you know, Alex explaining the New World Order to Jesse, and this will hopefully be posted in the next few days.
jason bermas
remember there's a lot posted right now over info wars He said, well, you know, for instance, Carol Quigley, who was a Georgetown professor, you know, inner circle of the elite, was given access to a lot of these roundtable members or basically the ruling, the Anglo ruling class that had consolidated a lot of power around the mid-1800s, early 1900s.
Okay. And this book is called Tragedy and Hope, and he talks about how they recruit people and massage them into it through Rhodes Scholarships and, you know, cars and women, the whole nine.
unidentified
I mean, he basically shows you...
How they how they recruit people and he also talks more more About their policies and how most of them, you know He's in favor of and he may not be in favor of their methods all the time But overall their their goals are goals that he would like to see Now he makes the point That Bill Clinton of course was a Quigley protege and for those that don't know on two separate occasions Bill Clinton, you know gave big ups to his mentor Carol Quigley.
jason bermas
So, Tragedy and Hope is the book.
G. Edward Griffin gives a stunning presentation on the quote-unquote New World Order and how it was formed and really, you know, he does that when he does the creature from Jekyll Island.
It's just amazing.
And this is open source information and it's really out there mostly, or was out there mostly, For the elitist, they did like a small print run and now it's been a cult classic and reprinted because more people are hip and aware of these things.
But this consolidation of power takes place and now we're left with Barack Obama who, come on, I mean, if you can't see that this man is a globalist, he's talking about a million and a half man youth brigade.
unidentified
A million and a half man youth brigade?
Sound like not to you?
Sounds like not to you to me.
jason bermas
Especially when you give the speech in Berlin!
I mean, God!
And Sky News, which is, you know, Fox News out in Europe, in London, they call it his New World Order speech.
And he talks about global citizenship.
unidentified
And, you know, that's another thing that's just, you know, again, great.
jason bermas
I don't know how much we got on camera with that, but Wow, that experience with Ventura and Willie Nelson was just off the wall.
I mean, you're in Willie's little luck town where they've shot, you know, movies and music videos and, you know, Willie's just chilling behind the bar and having a good time and riding around in his old Chevy pickup.
unidentified
I mean, he's not blinging.
And that's why, you know, I really admire somebody like Willie Nelson, who has the guts to step up and say all these things and jeopardizes everything.
His, you know, his family, you know, his stability.
I mean, obviously, he's Willie Nelson.
But, I mean, you know, you can get attacked, and he was attacked severely, especially by Fox News, O'Reilly, and all that.
jason bermas
But, I mean, he's got a beautiful place on land, but he didn't overdo it.
unidentified
He's not blinging like a rap star.
jason bermas
You know, I mean, this, that truck must have been 10, 15 years old.
unidentified
I mean, he's taking in stray horses so they don't die.
It's unbelievable.
jason bermas
I mean, the little room that, it was like this little I don't know, like a backdoor.
unidentified
I guess it would be like a shed.
jason bermas
Maybe a 20 by 40 room.
unidentified
I mean, it was nice, don't get me wrong, but it wasn't like decked out.
He didn't have fine art all over the place.
Just a simple man.
A great man.
jason bermas
A great musician with a great heart.
unidentified
It's amazing.
And then, I don't know, I really love that song, Simple Man by Leonard Skinner.
It was covered by, I think it was like Shinedown or something recently.
And I believe in that, you know?
I mean, I don't believe everything in the song, but You know, you gotta live simply.
You gotta try to take care of your own.
jason bermas
Be good to other people.
unidentified
I don't believe in this social Darwinism that this quote-unquote New World Order does believe, and that's what they believe in!
jason bermas
Okay? They are social Darwinists.
They're predators!
unidentified
And they use our apathy, our ignorance against us in a manner where we think...
jason bermas
You know, this is another thing, again, we talked about forever, and it's over at InfoWars.com.
unidentified
You can go check out the riding with Jesse.
jason bermas
But we talked about how We want to pick a winner and we're fooled into believing that we can't vote our hearts.
unidentified
Well, that's ridiculous!
Come election day, I'll be casting my vote for Green Party candidate, Cynthia McKinney.
jason bermas
Is she perfect?
Far from it.
Is anybody perfect?
unidentified
No. However, I really feel like, you know, she's open, she's a smart woman, she's savvy, she's a bulldog.
And, you know, Chuck Baldwin, great.
You know, I talked about Bob Barr with Jesse.
We all were just like, well, what about Bob Barr?
jason bermas
And I'm like, you know, Bob Barr, to me, although he's pretty good, he's soft on a lot of issues.
unidentified
He's played politics for a long time.
I don't know if I really trust him.
jason bermas
And he said, well, what about Nader?
unidentified
And I mentioned, well, Nader, again, he's really good on a lot of issues.
jason bermas
The thing is, I feel he's a little bit of a socialist and he's not the best speaker anymore.
unidentified
He's getting on in years.
He's like, all the speaking shouldn't count.
jason bermas
You should vote for the man.
unidentified
And I'm like, yeah.
But his presentation, you know, although it's solid and I like it, I feel like McKinney's got more fervor.
So that's the great thing.
jason bermas
You know, we could have an open debate in this country, but there isn't an open debate.
unidentified
The last three people I just named, you know, Bob Barr, Cynthia McKinney, Ralph Nader, Chuck Baldwin, four people.
jason bermas
They're not even in 95% of the public consciousness.
unidentified
Well, you know, 30 to 40% of the public consciousness isn't going to vote anyway.
jason bermas
Probably, actually, I think it's more than that.
unidentified
It's probably 60-70% isn't going to vote anyway.
So they're not even in.
jason bermas
So the people that do vote, out of that percentage, maybe 5% know those candidates.
And it's because the mainstream media wants to keep you in this two-party dictatorship.
And Jesse elaborated on that in length.
unidentified
So remember that when you're out in the polls, you know, this radio show has a substantial listening audience.
And I'm hoping that you're going to go out there and vote your heart.
jason bermas
I mean, another great thing about Jesse, Jesse's rocking a shirt when we go down to the backyard.
unidentified
And that great event there, Jimmy Vaughn, Willie Nelson, tons of other acts, you know, streamed it free on PrisonPlanet.com.
jason bermas
Just amazing stuff.
And it says, Obama, McCain?
Anybody but.
unidentified
And of course, anybody but is checked, and he really says, you know, remember he was talking, he was up on Barack Obama when he first came on this show.
He thought Barack was the real deal, he was saying the right things, and then he started to backpedal like a politician, and Jesse realized it.
jason bermas
And that is what he did.
That's what they do.
unidentified
Okay? That's what politicians do.
They backpedal.
They do what the establishment tells them.
And it's unfortunate because he's a really good speaker.
He's very charismatic.
jason bermas
He's got the people up in a fervor.
unidentified
Up in a fervor!
jason bermas
And that's why this story will be totally hyped.
unidentified
I mean, these two kids.
jason bermas
Think about that, folks.
unidentified
Obviously, you know, what kind of meds are these kids on?
They're not kids, they're young men, but I mean, you know.
jason bermas
But let me, let me repeat it.
They were gonna go on a killing spree that included killing 88 people and beheading 14 African Americans.
unidentified
Of course, you know, the beheading, that's gonna be really easy to do all that stuff.
Based upon my training and experience, the numbers 88 and 14 have special significance with the white power movement.
The individuals discussed doing home invasion robberies to fund their killing spree.
So they're just gonna rob all these people, kill all these people, then buy tuxedos, white tuxedos and top hats, and kill the president.
jason bermas
Or the would-be president.
Hyped up big.
unidentified
But, you know, again, we'll see where it goes.
jason bermas
I think you're gonna see a lot of that.
unidentified
There's a lot of delusional people out there.
jason bermas
I mean, people get death, you know, the presidents especially, get ludicrous death threats all the time.
I mean, this office alone has been visited by the Secret Service because people posting physical threats on message boards towards the president and other public officials.
They will show up.
And those people need to be dealt with.
They're absolutely sick in the head.
unidentified
That's not how you deal with these people.
You don't go out and go and murder them.
Okay? I'm sorry.
Or an attempted murder.
jason bermas
Or, you know, like that crazy guy at the Grove years ago putting on a Captain America mask and letting off all these rounds and doing crazy stuff.
That's not how you deal with people.
unidentified
You have to expose it.
jason bermas
You have to change the system.
And, you know, we got a shot at changing some systems, you know.
unidentified
Maybe not everybody out there.
You know obviously I said get out there vote your heart, but you know this isn't a You know a baseball game.
jason bermas
You're not trying to vote who's gonna win or you're not gambling on it.
unidentified
Hopefully. I'm sure Vegas is taking odds It's a sick society we live in Vegas is taking odds.
jason bermas
Oh man, but there are elections that do really matter.
I would love to see Cindy Sheehan take the seat I'm Nancy Pelosi in the house.
How great would that be?
Are you listening, California?
unidentified
Are you listening?
We need to get Cindy Sheehan into Congress.
And yesterday, you know, Jesse popped in already, on behalf of Dean Barkley, out in the great state of Minnesota, where GCN, John Harmon, and Ted Anderson are all located.
The great folks over there.
jason bermas
Let's get him elected senator!
Well, that's one in a hundred.
That might even be bigger.
I mean, those two are huge on two different levels.
Okay, you only get two senators per state.
unidentified
Now, a state senator's another thing, but that's not what he's going for.
jason bermas
He's going for the real deal, the whole shebango, the Senate.
Okay, but on the other level, you know, congressmen in New York and California tend to get a lot more press coverage than any other congressman in the country.
At all.
No matter what.
And Cindy Sheehan already has a huge name for herself.
unidentified
Huge name in the media.
For her to be elected to Congress would be a massive victory for the common sense movement, for the peace movement, and for the truth movement.
jason bermas
So things do matter.
Your vote can count.
I hope you're registered.
unidentified
God! Remember folks coming up?
jason bermas
We got Tarpley on the flip side of the hour.
And about the...
Hour and a half after that, we're going to have Willie Nelson on the bus.
It's InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
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I fell into a burning ring of fire.
I went down, down, down, and the flames went higher.
And it burns, burns, burns, the ring of fire.
The ring of fire.
Oh, Johnny Cash!
jason bermas
Man, I'm so greedy.
unidentified
Imagine getting to meet him.
You know, I just got to meet Willie Nelson.
jason bermas
That's not enough for me.
unidentified
I'd like to meet Johnny Cash from beyond the grave.
I do listen to a lot of Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson, though.
jason bermas
I mean, more than people would think.
unidentified
I'm really not that into country, but they have some really great songs.
They just really hit you hard.
jason bermas
And, uh, this is, you know, before we go to Tarpley in the next hour, this is a big story that, uh, just broke over at PrisonPlanet.com, but fluoride added to children milk in schools throughout UK City, so they're raping the economy,
unidentified
they're putting troops on the streets, uh, they're giving us a two-party dictatorship where really the elitists control the game, and now, now, They're going to add fluoride to children's milk in schools throughout UK City!
Not going to, they have.
Fluoride is being added to children's milk in 42 schools throughout the city of Sheffield in the UK, despite the chemical's proven link to liver and kidney damage, cancer and lowering of IQ.
A new strategy with the focus of preventing dental problems among children is to be introduced in Sheffield, reports the Yorkshire Post.
The move comes in response to figures showing that the state of the children's teeth in the city is slightly higher than the national average.
My God.
At present, fluoride is added to children's milk in 42 primary schools in the city.
This will continue, and the local NHS is also planning to begin talks on the possibility of adding fluoride to water.
The report continues.
jason bermas
Delicious! Let's put fluoride in everything!
Awesome! You know what?
I really like steak.
Can't we just inject into that?
I'm sure they're going to.
unidentified
Codex elementarius, anybody?
Anyway, while fluoride has been proven to have a minimal effect on the prevention of tooth decay, the negative effects of the chemical are legion according to several medical studies far outweighing any positive aspects.
A recent scientific American study concluded that fluoride can subtly alter endocrine function, especially in the thyroid, the gland that produces hormones regulating growth and metabolism.
The report also notes that a series of epidemiological studies in China have associated high fluoride exposures with lower IQ.
jason bermas
Literally the dumbing down of the populace.
unidentified
But that's okay, because I can go buy an iPhone for $300 at AT&T and my problems are solved.
jason bermas
Even though I'm a little dumber, I got a cooler little toy where I can sloth over and get my sports scores.
unidentified
You know, I'm on the plane the other day, coming into Austin.
jason bermas
And every...
unidentified
You too!
Woo! Let's score!
jason bermas
Oh, they're up...
They need to be up two possessions.
unidentified
Luckily, the guy I was sitting next to wasn't...
jason bermas
He was actually really interesting.
He was a smart guy.
He was into satellites.
He was just coming from overseas, and we had an awesome conversation.
unidentified
You know, not only about 9-11, government-sponsored terror, but the New World Order and globalization.
And we talked about the Bohemian Grove.
I mean, we got into some stuff.
And that was just great.
It shows you you can be a human being.
jason bermas
You can reach out to other people.
This was a total stranger.
I'm sitting next to him on a flight for two and a half hours.
unidentified
I gave him a copy of my film.
jason bermas
That's why it's so...
unidentified
That's why it's important to go to Infowars.com.
jason bermas
Go get Fabled Enemies.
unidentified
Go get Loose Change Final Cut.
Go get Alex's film, The Road to Tyranny.
jason bermas
The one that really woke me up to a lot of this stuff.
unidentified
Beyond 9-11.
jason bermas
Really showed a pattern.
unidentified
Showed me Oklahoma City.
Showed me the first World Trade Center bombing.
Showed me how the Feds had put those together as well.
jason bermas
And you gotta make copies.
You gotta hand them out.
Spindletown, USA.
unidentified
You know?
That's how we make a difference.
jason bermas
Sit them down.
Make them watch it.
Please, talk to these people.
unidentified
Let them know.
jason bermas
It's a two-party dictatorship.
unidentified
We need to change local government.
jason bermas
Cindy Sheehan, Dean Barkley, let's do it.
Infowars.com, PrisonPlan.com.
We'll be back after this break.
unidentified
Thank you for listening to GCN.
Visit GCNlive.com today.
david miller
On September 11th, 2001, along with hundreds of my fellow troops, I went to ground zero.
And we knew what to do.
Or at least we thought we did.
alex jones
Truth Rising is a breakthrough 9-11 film that finally gives first responders a platform to tell their story.
unidentified
Whitman, EPA.
The director on the 18th made a statement that the air was safe to breathe.
alex jones
This film follows the growing momentum of 9-11 truth as brave souls throughout the world take action against their global masters.
kevin mcpadden
He had his hand over the radio while he was getting a countdown.
He takes his hand off and you hear 3, 2, 1 and it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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If we don't expose the government-sponsored terror, they're going to commit more acts and bring in martial law.
unidentified
Waging war on corruption.
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome!
jason bermas
I am not Alex Jones, I am Jason Burmiss, sitting in on this Wednesday.
unidentified
Actually, it's not.
Is it Wednesday?
jason bermas
Yeah, it's Wednesday already.
unidentified
Right? No, is it Tuesday?
God, I'm getting my days mixed up.
Let's see, Sunday, Monday.
jason bermas
It is Tuesday.
unidentified
Geez, I'm out of it.
Tuesday, October 28, 2008.
jason bermas
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unidentified
You know, the populace is even more delicious.
jason bermas
That's awesome.
unidentified
Go read the whole article over at Prison Planet Infowars.
jason bermas
It's beyond belief.
unidentified
Tarp was coming up in about five minutes.
jason bermas
After the break, we're going to have him on for at least an hour.
We're going to discuss the election.
I really want to get in depth about these two candidates.
He's been very anti-Obama, and I'm anti-Obama as well.
unidentified
But, you know, I'm also anti-McCain, so it's just so hard for me to want any of it.
jason bermas
I did pull up a news clip And right now, there's another breaking story coming into our newsroom.
unidentified
Federal agents have disrupted an alleged plot to assassinate presidential candidate Barack Obama, as well as dozens of African Americans.
ABC7 investigative reporter Chuck Gowdy joins us with details.
Chuck? Linda, two alleged skinheads, according to federal authorities, met about a month ago on the internet.
They have been in custody since last Wednesday as authorities investigated what was behind the suspected plot against Senator Obama.
Last week, according to the authorities, they were driving around central Tennessee discussing a white power murder plot, their car sporting a swastika in window chalk, And other race hate symbols.
Federal prosecutors a short time ago releasing a copy of the charges in the plot against Obama that he was to be among 102 black victims targeted by a pair of young men from rural Tennessee.
Authorities say the suspects planned to kill 88 victims with gunfire and 14 people by decapitation.
Federal agents say there is significance to those numbers in skinhead circles.
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And 14, there are 14 words in the main marching orders of Neo-Nazis, we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
The men, allegedly led by this man, 20-year-old Danny Cowart of Bells, Tennessee, allegedly planned to go on a national killing spree with Mr. Obama as their final target.
They said that would be their last final act, according to a federal official.
That they would attempt to kill Senator Obama.
They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying.
We took these photos a little while ago from Cowart's MySpace page on the internet, a site loaded with pictures of guns that he claimed to own.
Cowart and a man named Paul Schlesselman, 18 years old, were arrested in Tennessee after Crockett County sheriffs received a tip from a neighboring sheriff's department.
The plotters admitted to investigators that they were planning to rob a gun shop to steal weapons for their killing spree.
Investigators say the men had several weapons at the time they were arrested last week, including a Fozzie.308 rifle and sawed-off shotguns.
According to the affidavit on file in Washington, The men plan to go on a nationwide killing spree, targeting an African-American school in Tennessee.
But they then plan to go to other states, and when they finally met up with Obama, according to federal investigators, they planned to drive their vehicle as fast as they could toward him, all of them dressed in white tuxedos and wearing top hats as they carried it out.
We're still looking into this.
It's just unfolding within the past hour out of Washington, and we will have much more coming up Later on the ABC 7 news.
jason bermas
So there you go.
Um, you know, were these guys recruited because they're nuts on MySpace?
Are they on medication?
unidentified
Are they just straight racists?
Obviously they didn't think they could do it.
Who knows?
jason bermas
We're going to get Webster Tarpley's take after the break.
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unidentified
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Bin Laden.
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Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
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jason bermas
Folks, we are back.
It is the Alex Jones Show.
I am Jason Bermas, sitting in for Alex.
I want to remind everybody to go to InfoWars.com and pick up a copy of my latest film, Fabled Enemy Stills, with really the intelligence ties with the Mossad, the Pakistani ISI, the Continuity of Government program here in the United States, and 9-11.
But right now we have Webster Tarpley, who of course is the author of Synthetic Terror, and of course, Obama, the Postmodern Coup.
unidentified
Thanks for being on, Webster.
webster tarpley
There's another book, an even newer one, called Barack H. Obama, The Unauthorized Biography.
So I've got two on Obama this year.
jason bermas
Excellent. Well, obviously, I mean, let's get right into it.
We're one week away from the election.
You've been very anti-Obama.
unidentified
I mean, I'm not saying you're pro-McCain, obviously, or not, but why, for our audience, why don't you give an overview of why you think he is the much more dangerous candidate?
webster tarpley
Well, the short answer is because he's a fascist.
Uh, and that is something unlike any other candidate seen so far.
And in order to get into this, you've got to really go back and look at what fascism was, which is not what Naomi Klein, uh, I'm sorry, Naomi Wolf, or Naomi Klein for that matter, or this guy Brit, or others are going to tell you, or for that matter, Jonah Goldberg.
There's a whole cottage industry to try to obscure what fascism was.
Fascism is not a top-down dictatorship that becomes more and more so-called Stringent and oppressive, and you get a complete police state from the top down.
For that, you wouldn't need a new term.
That would just be a police state dictatorship, or a tyranny, or despotism, or something like that.
Fascism has another component, which is a demagogic, pseudo-revolutionary, hyper-revolutionary mass movement.
And that's got to have grassroots cover.
It's got to be anti-authoritarian.
It's got to be radical.
It's got to be leftist.
It's got to be anti-establishment.
And the only candidate in the field right now who has that is, of course, Obama.
He's got this legion of Kool-Aid drinkers and fanatics, people who are devoted to a personality cult of Obama, and not to any set of issues.
And there's a kind of utopian, apocalyptic aspect to this, that what's going to come out of this is not just policies that might be better or might be worse, but it's a radical renewal of the world A renewal of the human personality and so forth, and this is the most dangerous stuff you can get.
So, I would say right now the biggest danger is a seizure of power by the Repo clique, by the Reed-Pelosi-Obama clique.
That would essentially be the Mussolini-fascist corporate state.
And again, corporate in this case means a guild.
It doesn't mean a modern corporation in the way that Mussolini used it.
And that would be pretty much, you've got the fascistization of the economy.
through the seven hundred billion dollar bailout for goldman sachs uh...
that is set up what amounts to a compulsory state-sponsored cartel to drive down wages to drive down production but to shore up this uh...
jason bermas
one point five quadrillion dollar derivatives bubble that we're stuck with let's get into the bailout in a minute and i want to talk about what you just said about obama because i can't help but agree with you that he does have like this Rockstar image where people do follow him.
I mean I've seen more artwork that spooks me out that reminds me more of like you know Maoist propaganda and these these you know portraits of him in like blue and off red.
It is spooky to me there.
And I do see where you're coming from on the fascist end as well, but are we really going to see that much of a difference than someone like McCain coming in who really looks like, I mean, no offense, but a walking corpse.
I mean, I don't think he's going to make many decisions except for that on behalf of the establishment.
I agree that he probably will not be able to coerce the people as easily.
unidentified
This guy Obama is definitely a charismatic guy.
jason bermas
He's a good speaker and he has been able to get away with, again, campaigning on almost nothing, just on his words and his personality.
I don't know of any campaign points such as, you know, getting us out of Iraq.
I don't see that happening.
People believe that, but it's just a de-escalation.
It will really never be.
webster tarpley
Quite the contrary.
If I may, Obama is the biggest warmonger in the field.
Obama is a bigger warmonger than McCain.
Obama is personally committed to bombing the hell out of Pakistan.
He's very, very strong on that.
And he started with that already a year ago this summer in Chicago, demanding the unilateral U.S. bombing of Pakistan.
And no two ways about it.
He repeated that in his Denver Convention speech, saying, we've got to go and get bin Laden at the cave where he exists.
Now, the world has changed.
Nobody, not even these characters, have any serious interest in this bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, 9-11, war on terror.
This is not what they're doing now.
They're attacking Pakistan because it's a Chinese ally.
The world has radically shifted.
And Obama, of course, is a key part of the shift.
We no longer have a neocon Bush-Cheney regime in Washington.
What we've got is a Rice, Gates, Mullen, Paulson regime, which is run by trilaterals, Bilderbergers, people like Goldman Sachs, Soros, David Rockefeller, and so forth.
And the target list has changed radically.
Pakistan is the target because it's a Chinese ally.
Biden is famous for his anti-Sudan tirades.
And it's not about Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, it's that you need a humanitarian invasion.
He says we've got to go in and save the people from genocide.
jason bermas
Now, of course, we could also sell the republic for that.
webster tarpley
Let me finish the point.
The point is that what they're after is to cut off the oil to China.
Everybody knows that China gets 6, 7, 8 percent of their oil from Sudan.
So the whole strategic map has changed.
The people that are caught in the left-liberal universe, They still don't understand this.
They still think that they're dealing with Bush-Cheney and the neocons and that there's going to be an attack on Iran.
I don't think there will be.
There's an attack on Pakistan that's going on every day.
There's an imminent attack on Sudan.
And above all, the whole thing has shifted with Georgia being played against Russia by these people.
We're now looking at confrontations in Central Europe.
So the short answer to your question is, which imperialist do you want to fight?
Do you want to fight a demagogic imperialist?
Imperialist of the type of Obama who promises a facelift for the Anglo-American policy, who can turn out 200,000 German lemmings in Berlin, who's got this legion of Kool-Aid cultists, or do you want a tired old reactionary, a lame duck, a transitional figure, someone who would be facing, like McCain, facing a Congress that would be very hostile to him because they would feel that they had been robbed of their one-party state?
I think What you really hope to get out of this thing, and it's a very modest program, is divided government.
We want gridlock.
We don't want bipartisan unity around new bailouts of the type that Goldman Sachs is demanding.
We don't want the Social Security Trust Fund to be looted in this attempt to prop up the derivatives bubble.
So Obama is simply more dangerous and more effective.
If you want to organize the third world war, you need Obama.
You're not going to get anywhere with McCain, because nobody in Europe is going to deliver money or troops to the U.S. based on McCain's face.
McCain can't go to Africa and say, brothers, join with me and kick out these Chinese interlopers.
Obama can do these things.
He's more effective for imperialism.
And I'm basically in the business of trying to make imperialism weaker rather than stronger.
unidentified
That's, I think, a way to approach the election.
Well, I hear you there, Webster, but I just feel in my heart I can't vote anything but my heart.
jason bermas
I can't vote for the lesser of two evils.
unidentified
Forget vote!
webster tarpley
What is vote?
Vote one wretched, miserable little vote.
What you've got to do is attack Obama.
Basically, expose Obama for what he is, and the people will do the rest.
Right now, Again, the worst possible outcome is Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.
That is a government that will, among other things, try to shut down this radio program.
The whole Genesis Network would be a target for hate crimes and for what they call the Fairness Doctrine.
unidentified
Do you think Cindy Sheehan has a shot against Pelosi in there?
jason bermas
I wish her well.
webster tarpley
I hope she does the best she can, and I hope she at least embarrasses Mrs. Pelosi as much as possible.
But the question of dictatorship, see, One thing is, you know, the FBI comes and harasses you.
That's what we've seen with the Patriot Act.
And it's clear that that has limits.
You get to a point where the police and the secret police are not enough, and the army cannot be relied on.
And that's the classic point where the financiers, the Soros, Rockefeller, Goldman Sachs types, turn to a mass movement of gutter snipes and hooligans and thugs and goons and fervently idealistic students.
Pretty much the Obama, this legion that he's got, the sort of left liberals who, they've been so blinded by their hatred of Bush and Cheney that they have imitated them in many ways, and they're now interested in suppressing free speech.
They want to shut you down if you criticize their idol, and they bring to this a religious fanaticism that you just don't see on the other side.
There's no group in this society That is, you know, a thousand percent devoted to McCain.
And this simply means that Obama is by far the most dangerous.
So, if you come out of it with McCain and a Democratic Congress, let them fight each other to a standstill.
That's the most you can hope for.
I don't know what else you can hope for.
And by the way, don't blame me for the situation, because I didn't create it.
jason bermas
Well, no one here is blaming you, Webster.
Absolutely not.
I don't know, I just see it as a lose-lose.
I mean, you put Barack Obama in, you're more likely to get a progression of this with the people really standing for it, because again, he's a charismatic guy, he's a good speaker.
unidentified
I haven't seen a speaker, a politician as slick as him since Bill Clinton, who was able to...
webster tarpley
Mussolini! Well...
jason bermas
I wasn't around when Mussolini was around, and I don't speak Italian, so I can't really speak to how charismatic he was, but, you know, Clinton I mean, he was smooth.
unidentified
He still is smooth.
I mean, he's really good, and I see that in Barack Obama.
jason bermas
He's able to smile and get around almost...
unidentified
Wait, wait.
webster tarpley
This is much...
Don't you think this is too superficial?
I'm talking about a fascist mass movement.
Clinton didn't have this in his wildest dreams.
And Mrs. Clinton, she had no such thing.
jason bermas
Well, I would disagree.
webster tarpley
Bush doesn't have it.
jason bermas
I would disagree that Bill Clinton didn't have that mass movement.
unidentified
By the time he was elected the second time, the country really did love him, Webster.
jason bermas
You know what I mean?
webster tarpley
That's not a fascist mass movement.
That's just a politician who is...
What can you say about Clinton?
He was better than Bush, the elder.
He was better than Dole.
And he was better than Bush, the younger.
So, on that basis, he got a lot of people to follow him.
And I think he did some things that were very bad.
There's just no comparison.
See, what you're doing is mixing apples and oranges.
You're saying, just another bourgeois regime, just another reactionary, just another...
and you're mixing that with...
It's a fascist mass movement and a one-party state.
unidentified
Yeah, but he's not even in right now, and right now the economy is being raped on another level with this bailout and the threat to congressmen.
You're right.
webster tarpley
Let's look at that.
jason bermas
Let's look at that on the flip side.
unidentified
I do.
jason bermas
I want to talk about the bailout.
I want to talk about the economy being raped.
I want to talk about the pension funds being gone.
I want to talk about the Dow just totally and completely dropping.
I think it went another 200 points yesterday.
We've got Webster Tarpley, Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, PrisonPlanet.tv.
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jason bermas
I'm Jason Bermas, sitting in with Webster Tarpley right now.
We're discussing the election.
We're discussing the bailout.
And before the break, I was trying to make the point that this, this rave of the economy has already really more than begun.
I mean, this bailout is huge, and this is under the Bush regime.
And now we're moving, probably, into, you know, Obama.
And to me, it's almost like the same people are heading both of them up it's just going to be a continuation Uh, you know, and I don't think that it's any less severe.
I mean, I still see an agenda in Eurasia.
I still see an agenda here at home.
But don't we already live in really a pseudo-fascist society right now?
unidentified
I mean, the corporations pretty much have a dominant monopoly on the arms industry, on the housing market, on the media itself, Webster.
jason bermas
And now, really, the banking cartel has gone just out of control.
So I understand you think it's going to go to another level.
unidentified
So here you go, Webster.
Go for it.
webster tarpley
You're making the mistake that people in Italy made in 1919, and they said, how could it get worse?
We've got people that are forgotten today.
We've got FACTA.
We've got SALANDRA.
How could it be worse?
And when Mussolini seized power with the March on Rome in 1922, they found it could get infinitely worse.
And the same thing was in Germany.
It was complicated by the fact that people by that time in the early 30s had been looking at Mussolini for a while.
And there were a lot of leftists and labor people in Germany who said, well, Brüning is as bad as bad can be.
He's already a fascist.
So this Hitler will not make a big difference.
And then, when they went off the cliff in January of 1933, they saw that there was a qualitative difference.
And this you can see in the memoirs and the memorabilia of the period.
The people had this idea that it was already as bad as it could get, but their imagination was nowhere near rich enough to grasp what was coming their way.
jason bermas
But Webster, wouldn't they need another big event, another big false flag either here or in Europe or Canada perhaps, or maybe in Mexico?
webster tarpley
Sure, but of what type?
Look, the whole scenario for Obama has now been blurted out by Biden in Seattle on the 19th of October.
He says basically two things.
One is a 12-month perspective where he says, our economic decisions to deal with this systemic crisis And breakdown crisis of the banking system.
These decisions that we will have to make will be sound decisions, he says, because he's a banker's boy.
But they will be so unpopular that our regime will collapse in the polls within 12 months.
So we want you to support us because we're making sound decisions even though everybody's going to say, wait a minute, what are you doing?
I didn't vote for this.
I didn't want this.
That's the 12-month perspective.
I mention this one because this is the one the Republicans Generally don't want to talk about, because they're going to try to do the same thing.
That's correct.
Now, the other side of it is the six-month perspective.
That there's going to be a generated international crisis, hooked up, and it's going to involve the Middle East, but Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, is the one that I would point you to, because that already represents a qualitative escalation of the insanity and the danger.
A country like Iran, basically defenseless, in the sense of International, intercontinental strategic weaponry.
They can do a lot in the Gulf.
They can do things in Iraq.
They can do a great deal.
But there's really very little way that they could strike the United States with any military means.
But when you're dealing with Russia and China, then everything changes radically.
You're talking about intercontinental ballistic missiles, hydrogen bomb warheads, things that are much better, in fact, than a lot of things that the U.S. has.
So Biden says, we're going to have a test in the first six months.
And then he points out the righteousness of the U.S. position will not be evident.
It won't be clear that we're doing the right thing, and I think it means two things.
The false flag question.
The old false flag will not be repeated.
I don't see just a repetition of the old false flag, because the targets are no longer Bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan.
That's over with.
What is the target now is Russia, Moscow, and it's somehow got to be a false flag that will get you A strike against an enemy of today.
Pakistan, maybe.
Sudan. Again, these are Chinese allies.
jason bermas
Alright, but let me stop you there.
Don't you think that they would use that same boogeyman, you know, bring out the General Mahmoud Ahmed connection, the ISI connection, the fact that bin Laden lived there to spook the American public?
I mean, you don't think they'll use that card again just to try to take with them the already, you know, somewhat conservative base that still believes in this war on terror?
webster tarpley
The whole war on terror is a totally discredited, used up, and useless construct at this point.
The intelligence community is not Johnny One Note.
They can't be.
You can't just go on till Kingdom Come, repeating bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, and all this other stuff.
This is discredited.
This gets you nowhere.
If you look at the two conventions, these things were hardly mentioned.
Biden was one of the ones who mentioned it, probably the only one at the Democratic convention.
And at the Republican convention, it was very, very much eclipsed.
The new target is Russia.
You've got to find ways to strike at Russia.
And that gets you into a different kind of false flag.
jason bermas
Alright, we'll come back to you right after this.
Webster Tarpley, Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
I'm Jason Burns sitting in for Alex Jones.
unidentified
We're on the march, the Empire's on the run.
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unidentified
The enemy struck America on September 11th.
But who is the enemy?
Bin Laden.
This is his M.O.s.
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We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
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So cool to be able to go up to Willie Nelson's house, interview him and Jesse Ventura, you know, having conversations about what's going on in the world today.
Right now we're discussing the election, the bailout with Webster Tarpley.
Webster, maybe you can explain this to me a little bit better, how this bailout is able We're good to
go. Why do you think that this conflict with Russia has to happen?
Do you feel that Russia is unhappy with their place in the world?
Do you feel like they don't feel like they're going to have, you know, first world status in this new global order?
webster tarpley
Explain. Russia is not the aggressor.
Georgia was the aggressor, egged on by Soros, Brzezinski, and others.
jason bermas
Well, I agree there.
I mean, absolutely.
I mean, what's his name?
unidentified
Not Soros.
jason bermas
What's the president's name?
I can't...
Saakashvili. Yeah, Saakashvili went on Glenn Beck.
And he basically said that Russia was against the New World Order right on television.
So obviously they want their place in NATO Georgia.
unidentified
They were under US direction with special forces there and Israeli special forces as well, probably Blackwater.
jason bermas
They were the aggressors, there's no doubt about that.
unidentified
But I mean, why do you think Putin can't get along?
Why do you think they sent Georgia in there?
webster tarpley
Who will have imperialist world domination for the next hundred years?
And what we have now is an unprecedented crisis of Anglo-American imperialism.
In other words, U.S.-British world domination has never been more threatened than right now because of pure bankruptcy, because of this $1.5 quadrillion dollar derivatives bubble, which is now destroying the banking systems of London and New York.
And these are the epicenters of the crisis.
The normal response of Europe under these circumstances would be Break off from the US and the British and do East-West trade energy deals with Russia and Eurasia and save themselves at the same time that the rest of the world runs as fast as they can from London and New York.
So, the Brzezinski calculation is something like this.
If you can smash Russia and China, above all, if you can get an endgame where you get Russia and China at war with each other in World War III, this is the ultimate goal for somebody like Brzezinski, a geopolitician, then the U.S.
and the British can rule the world for another hundred years.
But if they don't do this, the U.S.-British Empire is simply doomed.
So they're interested in doing this.
Now, from that we get the bailout.
Now, remember, if you go back to Nazi Germany, a lot of the fascist economic infrastructure was indeed installed before Hitler's seizure of power.
This was done by a guy called Schacht, S-C-H-A-C-H-T, Jalmar Schacht, who was the head of the central bank, and then he became Hitler's finance minister.
But the problem is you've also got to have a political structure that goes with it.
So here we have already the fascist corporate state, and again, that means the state-sponsored compulsory cartel for the purpose of crushing wages, driving down production, right, destroying industrial capacity, but shoring up the derivatives bubble, purely fictitious, bloated,
What we've seen so far is the situation where Bush taps your phone, the National Security Agency taps your phone violating the FISA law, or some FBI agents come to your house and harass you.
Fascism is when a mob of hooligans and goons and students and fanatics Come to your home, burn it out, you know, lynch you, rape your wife, and destroy everything that you've ever put together.
jason bermas
So this is really the nightmare scenario that you project in America.
unidentified
If he gets elected, you can see this coming.
webster tarpley
Look, it's also the idea of an extra-legal goon squad that operates with the tolerance of the police.
I mean, Mussolini's march on Rome in October 1922, militarily, was a joke.
There was no way they could seize control of Rome.
The army was told, uh, don't do anything.
The police were told, fine, let them in.
This is what we need.
The ruling class wants this to be the next government.
You've got this case up in Burlington, Vermont.
A guy goes up to a book table of middle-aged ladies tabling for Obama, asks a very interesting question.
What's the relation of Obama to Brzezinski?
The middle-aged, charming ladies call the cops.
The guy's thrown to the ground.
Threatened with a taser.
Kept in jail for 36 hours.
He's now got a court date.
In Missouri, you've got prosecutors and sheriffs who are saying, if you lie about Obama, we're going to come after you with criminal charges.
Anybody who's got a Federal Communications Commission license knows that they will be in big trouble if we get the Obama-Pelosi-Reid regime.
Larry Sinclair goes to the National Press Club in June, gives his charges against Obama, which you can see at his website, and then he's arrested.
With a hoped-up warrant by Beau Biden, the son of Joe Biden, the current Democratic vice presidential candidate.
So you're getting an unmistakable pattern of goon squad activities, where it's an illegal or extra-legal goon squad.
Another one, if Bush taps your phone under FISA, the left liberals, of course, will scream.
But you can go and you can hack into Palin's email, if you're a young fascist from Tennessee, and you put that up on the Gawker Thank you.
about the left liberals is normally they would be concerned about police state measures but the genius of fascism is that it allows the fascist uh...
mass movement to present itself under left cover and that's that's really the key thing uh...
obama has that right obama's got some left cover mccain of course has none so when it comes to strike breaking when it comes to imposing austerity obama's more effective mccain will say We've got to fight the war on terror and people will say, get lost, go home, we're sick of this tissue of lies.
Obama will say, I'm doing it for the polar bears, for global warming, I'm doing it for the third world solidarity, for people starving in Africa.
jason bermas
Well, I don't think there's a doubt that he's more worldly, he's more influential, he's more well-spoken, he's more...
webster tarpley
I don't know why you keep coming back to this.
I think the guy...
You really think so?
sure i don't know what sir and i was just a pretty interesting you know you can put together some people of these are with the right wingers right who are at least doing something they put together a You know, he stammers, he stutters, he hems, he haws, he gurgles, he gargles.
You know, you know, you know.
Whenever he's in deep water, you can hear him searching for the words.
I think, in terms of being a spontaneous speaker without the glass plate or the teleprompter, he's one of the worst we've seen in recent years.
It's a complete media facade of lies and distortions and above all, hero worship.
This is the other thing for people to understand.
If you want to know who Wall Street's candidate is, turn on any television network for the evening news.
You will know within 10 minutes.
Wall Street demands Obama.
If you don't want Obama, there's something wrong with you.
unidentified
Well, I agree there.
jason bermas
I mean, obviously, we've got more funding.
unidentified
So what do you do?
webster tarpley
How do you respond?
You want to fight back against Wall Street and defeat their candidate?
jason bermas
Yeah, I agree.
unidentified
I think that they've got the other guy in their pocket.
jason bermas
And like I said, McCain doesn't look too good.
webster tarpley
But he's a weak entry!
He's a weak entry!
jason bermas
I agree, but what happens if McCain...
webster tarpley
He's not going to be able to deliver.
In other words, he'll try to deliver austerity.
It won't work.
He'll try to deliver a coalition against Russia.
That won't work, either.
jason bermas
What if he dies, Webster, in office, and then they just put in Palin, and they put somebody in as the VP that they can, you know, more easily massage?
unidentified
Maybe people will...
webster tarpley
A much better bet than Obama-Biden.
At least the only person who's not an investment banker, not a banker's boy, not a millionaire.
I'd take a chance.
What else are you gonna do?
unidentified
Well, then, I'd also like to ask what you think the shot of Obama being assassinated in offices.
jason bermas
I mean, obviously you think it's ridiculous.
webster tarpley
This is one of the memes spread by the Obama campaign.
As a matter of fact, this is actually a turning point in the intelligence picture.
If you're listening to the news reports today, we've got these two pathetic patsies, two mythomaniacs, two white supremacist skinheads, one from Tennessee, one from Arkansas, and they had a plan.
They're going to rob a gun shop, go to a black high school, kill Determine numbers of people, cut the heads off some of them, jump back in the car, rob another gun shop, get white tuxedos, and then attack Obama with rifles from afar.
It's absolutely ridiculous!
This is in the same league with the Fort Dix Six, right?
The six who wanted, supposedly, to barge into It's a necessity because this is a meme of the Obama myth.
And one of the things the Kool-Aid cultists and lemming legions of Obama need to be told periodically That there are dark forces conspiring against their man, because otherwise it might begin to dawn on him that he is the candidate of Goldman Sachs.
Look, you have this guy, Kramer, who goes on CNBC in the afternoons.
Kramer speaks for the trading desk at Goldman Sachs.
Now, Goldman Sachs money is flowing to Obama at about 3 to 1 to 4 to 1. So for every dollar that McCain gets bundled for him from Goldman Sachs, Obama gets 3, 4, and maybe more.
The government, right now, this is not, again, it's not a Bush-Cheney government anymore.
Those are lame ducks, caretakers, groundskeepers.
They count for absolutely nothing.
unidentified
Alright, well then wait, I gotta ask this.
webster tarpley
If you look at this, Barack Paulson runs the government.
Paulson is the economic dictator of the US.
Gates is so powerful that he's gonna stay on into Obama, and he's a Brzezinski boy from the Carter administration, 77 to 79. Yeah, well, I gotta ask you.
jason bermas
For instance, the continuity of government program we've had.
It was revamped in the 80s under George Herbert Walker Bush.
You know, Cheney's pretty much been in the succession program since that.
Obviously, you know, he was part of it on 9-11.
Do you think his role in continuity of government or shadow government just ends?
webster tarpley
I think it's finished, of course.
He's washed up.
He counts for absolutely nothing.
jason bermas
Really? After 20-something years?
webster tarpley
Look, I'll give you a concrete case.
He didn't want North Korea taken off the terror list.
And he fought a big battle.
Condoleezza Rice walked all over him.
You've got Biden going to the Israelis and saying to them, Dear Israelis, there's going to be a nuclear-armed Iran, and you are going to do nothing about it, and you are going to like it.
Mullen goes to the Israelis and says, Don't you dare do anything vis-à-vis Iran.
We have our policy, and you will damn well do what you're told.
So this entire world, see, the world of Bush, Cheney, and the neocons is gone.
Finished. Kaput.
They're washed up.
If you're looking for covert operations, Obama is the covert operation.
It is a post-modern coup.
It's based on the Orange Revolution in Kiev, the Roses Revolution in Tiflis, Georgia, these other things that were going on during the Bush-Cheney years, the National Endowment for Democracy, the left wing of the CIA, the foundations, the Soros, Brzezinski, Human Rights, International Crisis Group, left-cover world.
If you saw You're focused on the top-down stuff.
Do you think the police state is coming from some building in Washington, D.C.?
It's wrong.
It's coming from a gutter near you with Obama fanatics coming up out of the sewer and coming after you with the connivance of the police and intelligence.
jason bermas
Kind of set up an indoctrination.
unidentified
I mean, he's talked about the million and a half man youth brigade.
jason bermas
I mean, do you think he's going to use more of the bureaucracies, maybe Homeland Security or something like that, to bring these into existence to indoctrinate youth?
I mean, that'll take some time, don't you think, Webster?
At least a couple years.
webster tarpley
But this is the Obama regime.
He's got five volunteer organizations.
He's got a Homeland Security Corps, a Green Corps.
That's great.
If they decide that you're a polluter, they'll come and burn you out and lynch you or do something like this.
The whole logic of Obama is stuff like, uh, you know, Mussolini had this youth movement called Baligula, this kind of stuff.
Nobody knows these things in the U.S. anymore.
That's one of the problems, is that, you know, fascism, the early phase of fascism is now 75 to 90 years behind us, so there's basically nobody left who remembers it, and the people who purport to write about fascism don't tell you, but the idea of having, you know, mass organizations of the government, uh, From somebody who comes into power with a movement of fanatics.
That's fascism.
That's Mussolini.
And it's not the conservative, reactionary kind of stuff with Bush.
For example, one of the criticisms that Obama has of Bush is he attacks him from the right.
He says, Bush, after 9-11 you should have decreed crushing austerity.
You could have cut the living standard by a third or a half and given that money to Wall Street.
Under the cover of the War on Terror.
You didn't do that, Bush.
That's what we're going to do.
And he does it with left cover.
Not Bin Laden, not Al-Qaeda, but again, the polar bears, global warming.
jason bermas
I listened to his acceptance speech, actually, when I was driving back to New York.
Well, hold on.
It was on NPR or something, and he mentioned Bin Laden, and he mentioned, you're right, he mentioned going into Pakistan, wherever it took him.
webster tarpley
Absolutely. This is the only place, though, and again, you've got to understand why they're doing what they're doing.
The Afghan war is now being run for the purpose of destroying Pakistan as a unified state.
jason bermas
Well, I'm wearing opium.
webster tarpley
Yeah, fine, but this has been going on forever.
Tell me something new.
The new thing is, instead of having one Pakistan with a government in Islamabad, it's going to be five or six mini-states.
This is the Brzezinski policy.
Micro-states and mini-states.
So, Pashtunistan, Beluchistan, Waziristan, Sindh, and they have these separatist groups that correspond to each of these.
the goal again being That it must be destroyed because in a strategic confrontation, Pakistan traditionally goes with China against India.
And the Anglo-Americans imagine that they'll be using India against both.
jason bermas
Out of that, don't you feel they still want to build some kind of Eurasian Union that's under their control?
I mean, you're saying Iran is probably off the table no matter what.
webster tarpley
Iran is on the table, but as a kamikaze puppet to be thrown against Russia in the same way that Georgia has been thrown against Russia.
There is a plan, and this is pure Brzezinski.
Brzezinski would say, look, I installed this government.
The mullahs were installed by Brzezinski.
I read about this at some length in Obama, The Postmodern Coup, The Making of a Manchurian Candidate that you can get from the Alex Jones Infowars stores.
I've also got Obama, The Unauthorized Biography.
Both of these reflect the fact that the overthrow of the Shah and the bringing in of Khomeini was a Carter-Brzezinski Project against the Soviets.
Remember, Brzezinski's world is determined by a fanatical hatred of Russia.
And in this void of ideas, and you could see it, this was, you could see this in public, the main public opponent of the neocons, in terms of an alternative imperialist strategy, has been Brzezinski since 2006.
2007, right?
And he even tried to stop them from attacking Iran.
Because he says, why do you want to attack Iran?
I have plans for Iran.
I can turn the Iranians against the Russians.
And look what I can accomplish.
Other possibilities, right?
You've got Poland and Ukraine.
This is Brzezinski country, par excellence.
Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, these places.
What they'd like to do this winter is to have a crisis where Poland and Ukraine could Cut off the flow of natural gas from Russia into Western Europe, so you get a hysteria in Western Europe.
People who are cold and sitting in the dark and can't cook their food.
And start blaming Russia.
So you play Europe, and above all, play these unstable dictatorships of Eastern Europe that are NATO, IMF puppet states.
Play them against Russia and try to get rid of both of them that way.
That's Brzezinski.
jason bermas
You know what, folks?
Let's take your calls on all these matters with Webster Tarpley in the next segment.
Hopefully we'll hold them over past the hour.
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jason bermas
We're with Webster Tarpley right now, the author of 9-11 Synthetic Terror, Obama the Postmodern Coup, and what's the latest one on Obama, Webster?
webster tarpley
I'm afraid the latest one I don't think you can get from InfoWars, but rather from Amazon.com.
Barack H. Obama, The Unauthorized Biography.
jason bermas
Hey, what's up everybody?
unidentified
I want to talk about 9-11 real quick.
There's a lot of photographic evidence from the day after the buildings collapsed, the beams, you know, the way the beams are cut.
When they do the control demolition?
Uh-huh.
You guys should have some kind of picture book or something for people.
jason bermas
Well, I would say this.
Richard Gage, who's Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, and Stephen Jones both have excellent PowerPoint presentations.
There's excellent YouTube presentations.
I believe we show that evidence in Loose Change 2nd Edition.
We show even more evidence on top of that in Loose Change Final Cut.
That's all available for free online.
And you really just have to look around for it.
I mean, obviously, that's compelling evidence.
I think that Stephen Jones is on the right track with some kind of a thermite, thermate basis to cut those beams in the manner that they were.
Thanks for the call, Eric.
Let's jump to Rick in South Carolina.
Rick, what's on your mind?
unidentified
Hi Jason, always good to hear you on the show.
Thank you.
And Wester Tarpley is an incredible intellect.
I want to jump back a little bit to the beginning of the show when you mentioned Dean Barkley and Cindy Sheehan, and we certainly want to get behind them and help them, but also I wanted to throw somebody else's name out, because what if we could get rid of Lindsey Graham?
And we're getting very close to it.
There's a guy running neck and neck with them.
Lindsey Graham has $4 million.
You run lots of ads.
This guy has done it on a shoestring with $100,000 so far.
jason bermas
Give us a website.
unidentified
His name is Bob Conley.
He's running as a Democrat against Lindsey Graham.
His website is aimhighwithbob.com.
jason bermas
Do you have any comments on the presidential election, Rick?
unidentified
Oh, I know I'm going to vote third party.
I'm probably going to vote for Chuck Baldwin.
I think Nader's a good one, too, and I think Cynthia McKinney is, too.
I think we should vote her conscious.
I think whoever we vote for, we should vote third party to let them know We're not eating the oatmeal anymore.
jason bermas
What do you think about that, Webster, and I thank you for the call, Rick, that maybe, you know, even if we can't get our candidates elected, if we get a substantial amount of people voting third party, just third party, you know, Nader, McKinney, Baldwin, Barr, that that does show the establishment that there is a large number of us.
webster tarpley
I think people should look at a vote as a strategic asset.
In other words, it's not a sacrament.
You're not marrying anybody.
You could get into strategic voting.
Again, I think a lot of people listening to this are actually opinion leaders who should be able to move 10, 20, 50, 100 votes, not just their one wretched, miserable, tormented little vote at the end of all this, right?
Use your influence to move the masses.
My points would be three.
First of all, you want to stop Obama at all costs.
That's the absolute imperative.
No Obama.
The second one?
You've got to punish people who voted for the bailout.
jason bermas
All right, come back with us after the break, Webster.
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Folks, we are back.
It is Tuesday, October 28th, 2008.
One week from election day.
And we've been talking to Webster Tarpley in the past hour.
We're taking your calls right now.
And in these last, in these five minutes before we go to the next segment...
Webster, and take more callers.
I want you to go over those three points.
Now, obviously, your agenda is to stop Obama at all costs.
What are the other two big points that we have to get by on this election?
webster tarpley
A few more comments.
First of all, no Obama.
Stop Obama at all costs.
If you don't stop Obama, you're going off a cliff.
You're leaping into an abyss.
And most people have very little idea of what fascism was and what this is going to look like.
Again, re-read that thing from Biden.
Tremendous, crushing, brutal economic austerity within the first 12 months, and an international confrontation, probably with false flag or some form of aggression in the first six months.
Secondly, anybody who voted for the bailout has to be punished.
You gotta vote against any elected official who supported that bailout.
Obama, of course, was the one who organized the whole Black Caucus with a conference call to switch their votes into it.
McCain, I think, vacillated because there were a lot of Republicans Who were against it.
You remember in the House it was stopped for the first time around with quite a few Republican votes.
The third one, you gotta come out of this with gridlock.
No one-party state.
We do not want the presidency, the Senate, and the House of Representatives in the hands of the same people.
The monstrosities of the Bush era are largely in the period of one-party Republican rule, which is from about January of 2003 To about January of 2007.
That's the Republican one-party state, and that's what gets you the Iraq War and a lot of other things going with it.
As far as these third parties go, Cynthia McKinney, Rosa Clemente is somebody that I've known from broadcasting in New York City.
She needs to develop a much more aggressive critique of Obama.
She could be very, very effective.
Nader has probably attacked Obama more Then others on the idea that Obama betrays the black community, doesn't care about them, uses them.
Bob Barr's running mate, Wayne Root, is somebody who graduated from Columbia in 1983, and points out that he was in the same year and the same department as Obama at Columbia College, and nobody ever heard of Obama.
There's no sign that Obama ever attended Columbia during those years.
This is the big mystery.
I think that's when he was recruited by By Brzezinski.
So, if you're in a state where it's clear that it's going to go one way or another, if you're in a state like, you know, I guess Texas is pretty much, you know, a lost cause for Obama, then you can think about trying to make a statement with these third-party votes.
You've got to do what's congenial for you, and some people, obviously, you know, are going to want to support them, and maybe out of that, some of these third-party Yeah, I mean, obviously.
jason bermas
I mean, the way I look at it, look, in New York, they're gonna vote Obama no matter what.
I don't see McCain getting the, you know, New York vote.
unidentified
I'm voting third party, and I hope other people in New York vote third party as well.
jason bermas
I mean, New York can show there's a lot of change.
I think California is the same way.
I mean, that's going Obama.
I mean, you don't think that John McCain has a shot in either of those two states, do you?
webster tarpley
No, but this is a very, very close election, and I do believe that any place where you have blue-collar workers, the group that's undercounted are the Puma Democrats, the Reagan Democrats, the Hillary Clinton Democrats.
It's about 25% of the Democratic Party who They will not vote for Obama, and I think it's going to be a surprise.
The whole Appalachian area in particular is fundamentally hostile to Obama because they have a class instinct.
They can see that Obama is a class enemy.
He's somebody who's coming to impose crushing austerity in the name of the Wall Street banks.
He's an elitist.
He's an oligarch.
He's a puppet.
He has no life of his own.
Everything that he's got has been given to him by these bankers.
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It's the Alex Jones Show.
I am Jason Bermas, sitting in with Webster Tarpley, our guest, and we've got callers on the line.
We're discussing the bailout, the elections, you know, Webster's books, Obama, the post-modern coup, and what is it, Obama, the presidency, H2O?
unidentified
What was it?
jason bermas
I'm sorry, man.
unidentified
What is it?
webster tarpley
Barack H. Obama, the unauthorized biography.
jason bermas
The unauthorized biography, kind of like your George Bush unauthorized biography, which is really a tradition.
webster tarpley
Let me just add one quick thing.
You know, one person from the 9-11 truth movement who has, I think, completely understood the profound change, the phase change that we've gone through, is Phil Berg.
And Phil Berg, I believe, will be at the Supreme Court here in Washington, the United States Supreme Court.
Attempting to argue his case, which has been defeated.
jason bermas
He's appealing it, right?
webster tarpley
Yeah, this is an appeal.
It's a direct interlocutory appeal to the Supremes that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.
That he was, in effect, born in Kenya and naturalized as a citizen of Indonesia, making him an illegal alien.
And people who are concerned about illegal aliens better start with this one, or it's going to be a lost cause any other way.
Bloomberg is waging a valiant struggle, and I urge people to support him.
He's got a website called Obama Crimes, and you can go there and give him a contribution, encourage him.
He's gotten tremendous media impact.
He's got 70 to 80 million hits on this website in about two months.
And this is an example of somebody who learned the lesson of 9-11, which is covert operations by the intelligence agencies designed to manipulate public opinion are bad.
Whether they're left cover, like Obama, or the right-wing racist war on terror stuff from 9-11.
jason bermas
Not to get off on a tangent before we go into calls, but you just mentioned the Kenya citizenship thing.
Do you think that's something that might come out after this man is already president and will, like, automatically amend the Constitution?
webster tarpley
No, I think there are a lot of things that are held over Obama's head for control.
In other words, the whole Resco complex, the whole Sewer and cesspool of corruption with Tony Resco, Nadhimi Ouchi, Al Samari, these characters from, well, from Chicago, but also from the Eastern Mediterranean.
They're all Levantine Arabs.
Obama's got these three convicted felons that are his godfathers.
I'm sure that the feds could indict Obama at any time, but they're holding that over his head.
If people are interested in Obama, the unauthorized biography, I do that in comparison to Harry S. Truman, who was controlled, among other things, in the same way.
With Truman, it was the Pendergast machine in Missouri that he came out of.
Truman could have been indicted at any point that the bankers decided that he wasn't obeying them.
And Obama will be the same story.
I'd rather think that the hope of the ruling elite is to keep the citizenship issue as yet another means to beat him over the head if he starts getting rambunctious in office.
jason bermas
All right, let's go to callers.
Let's take Aaron in California.
Aaron, are you with us?
unidentified
Yeah, hi Jason and Webster.
I just wanted to talk about, you know, Michelle Obama, when she gave that big speech where she was wearing that teal shirt of some type, right smack in the middle of her shirt was a sun symbol.
Sure enough, today on the Drudge Report, there's a picture of her from yesterday on Jay Leno, or maybe a few days ago, and sure enough, she's got a sun symbol right on her shirt.
I mean, is that a coincidence?
Because I don't think so.
jason bermas
Well, I'll say this.
You know, I'll say this.
You know, they're CFR.
They're obviously globalists.
They're obviously, you know...
Social climbers as well.
Are they into the occult?
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know if they go to Bohemian Grove.
I don't know how seriously they would take that.
If they did, I haven't seen a whole lot of evidence, but it does follow suit.
It does seem like a lot of the upper echelon elites do get into that sort of thing.
So is it a possibility?
Yes. Is it a probability?
You know, let me weigh in with some more evidence.
webster tarpley
These people, this is the deployment of the trilateral Bilderberg-Rand Chicago School right now.
In other words, this is what the Trilaterals and Bilderbergers are doing right now in our time.
It's not somebody else.
It's not like they want McCain or Hillary Clinton or, you know, John Edwards.
It's these people.
They are the prime deployment.
Now, that thing, I suppose, that's the old Solon Victor Smithra from the Byzantine Empire.
The other thing you've got to see about these people is the foundation milieu.
I haven't talked about that enough.
The mother of Obama worked for the Ford Foundation, top official.
Obama's whole life is working for foundations.
The Joyce, the Gamaliel, the Woods, the Annenberg.
His friend, the weatherman, terrorist, bomber, killer, butcher, cop killer, Bill Ayers.
He's got all sorts of money from the Annenberg Foundation.
Tens of millions of dollars.
Bernardine Dorn, another weatherman, terrorist, butcher, cop killer.
He comes with money from the MacArthur Foundation.
How does this happen?
Well, my explanation is, having known these people, I knew them personally, at least from a distance, in SDS 40 years ago.
Those were always agents.
They were always operatives.
They were foundation-funded terrorists in the middle 1960s, and Obama has bought into this mentality.
In other words, with Obama, you are, in effect, putting a weatherman terrorist into the White House, or someone who thinks Yes, Jason.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller, and I wanted to bring up the subject on why Obama supporters are so fervent over Obama.
Okay. Basically, I've found a pretty plausible theory as to why that's the case.
Basically, he uses hidden or covert hypnosis techniques in his speeches.
jason bermas
Let me say this before we get into hypnosis and things like that.
Orate and speak a certain way.
They move their hands.
There's a guy out in the UK that does a show.
It's not David Blaine-esque stuff.
His name is Darren Brown.
It's more how the mind works, how you're able to plant certain words.
So, you know, certain part of the brain activate to move a certain manner.
And these people are especially, you know, agents that are recruited by intelligence organizations like the CIA and the NSA.
When they're going to be speakers, they're taught these techniques That are there to basically corral people, to convince them, to persuade them to do things.
Isn't that correct, Webster?
webster tarpley
Yes. In particular, though, there's also the emotional need.
In other words, when somebody joins what amounts to a fascist mass movement or a neo-fascist mass movement of the Obama type, they're doing this for the satisfaction of immediate emotional needs.
In effect, they want to be duped.
Part of it is the hatred for Bush, Cheney, and the neocons.
Which I can understand, which in some ways I share, has blinded people, and that's where you have to part company.
They've lost all criteria of judgment, as long as you're something other than Bush-Cheney.
There's also this question of alienation.
The previous caller mentioned Michelle Obama.
The centerpiece of Michelle Obama's speeches during the primaries was this stuff about our souls are broken.
We all have broken souls.
We need the healing touch of the beatific Uh, personality, the one, the Messiah, the Mahdi, uh, Barack Obama.
Uh, there's a passage in Mein Kampf by Hitler where he talks about the fact that if you're a worker and you're in your factory, you're living an alienated life where nothing really belongs to you emotionally.
But if you go to a national socialist rally, then you feel fulfilled nationally, racially, and in all these other ways.
And there's a very similar dynamic in these Obama mass meetings, right?
The fact that he He prefers stadiums.
He prefers large crowds.
Again, read Mein Kampf.
Hitler says, the bigger the crowd, the more easy it is to control.
The more people that are there, the more you can brainwash them, and the more undifferentiated.
In other words, what you want is the massy mass.
Not people who are there as consumers, or workers, or housewives, but just the mass.
And when you've got the mass, especially at night, he says, at night is better because people are more irrational, then you can get them in the palm of your hand, and you're not convincing them with arguments, you're convincing them with an emotional experience which is irrefutable.
jason bermas
Yeah, like the hive-like mentality of being around all these things and just going with the flow.
webster tarpley
Yeah, but it's dangerous when you get a mass movement of this sort under depression conditions, after all the tremendous damage done to the society by Bush and Cheney, Yeah.
It simply doesn't work.
But right now, the main thing is to stop Obama so that you have at least a breathing space to try to get some kind of an alternative together, which you don't have right now.
jason bermas
Well, you were just talking about schools of philosophy, so I just got to ask you, have you seen the Zeitgeist Addendum yet?
webster tarpley
I'm not interested in this stuff because of this vulgar attack on religion, which I think is just useless and pointless.
You've got to remember, the British intelligence is running a huge attack on Christianity.
With Christopher Hitchens, with this awful Darwinian character, Dawkins.
jason bermas
Yeah, Dawkins, the god of delusion.
webster tarpley
Absolute reactionary imperialist...
I mean, just the most...
jason bermas
Well, there's some counter stuff out there, too.
Ben Stein just put out a movie called Expelled, the case for intelligent design, where he takes Dawkins and others on pretty hardcore.
He talks about social Darwinism and proteogenics, yeah.
webster tarpley
Here's the problem.
We live in a Leibnizian least action universe.
The problem with Darwin and the problem with Malthus and anybody who follows them is that it assumes that the universe is entirely random and that it's a matter of indifference whether there's development or higher energy states or whether there's not.
So, therefore, Darwin has to assume that all the progress in evolution, which undoubtedly is there, there's no doubt about evolution and the progress towards Thank you.
this is the blind watchmaker this is all a matter of just chance interaction and it could happen or it could not happen no it's wrong the darwinian malthusian universe is not the universe that you see the universe that you see is a gott free bill um...
light mix leading action universe Where there is, if you will, a built-in bias in the physical order of things in favor of development and higher energy states, because that's what you see.
jason bermas
Webster, can you stay one more segment with us?
Can you stay one more segment with us?
Sure. All right, thanks so much.
We're going to be back after this with more calls.
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unidentified
webster i respect uh...
your research and your uh...
the books And I agree with you that we want no Obama, punish those who voted for the bailout, and no to fascism.
But I think the suggestion that by voting for McCain is going to be anything but Obama is just falling into the false left-right dialectic of paradigm, left-right paradigm, that both candidates are puppets of the New World Order.
Chuck Baldwin, whether he gets in or gets not, at least you're voting for something that's not going to be more of the same, where there is no Obama is going to be defeated and that's going to be a difference.
They're going to be the same.
The idea that the big deal, that the New Deal worked as an answer to the economic problem of the past, I think is a fallacy.
If we just simply end the Fed and stop paying interest for use of our own money, that that would be an answer.
And I think there's a book Dan Hopsicker wrote that had a, called Barry and the Boys, the CIA, the Mob, and America's Secret History.
It had a picture on the photo, on the cover, of Barry Thiel, CIA drug pilot, that they were, it was in Mexico prior to the JFK assassination.
uh... he's seated with port-au-prince several other well-known cia agents port-au-prince of course was named director of cia by bush These people connect the Clintons and the Bushes right up through...
jason bermas
Your point, sir, is that this thing continues, that this leviathan has been around for, you know, 30 or 40 years at least, at least this wonton of the Bush regime and this shadow government continuity of government program, and you don't think it's going to end, right?
unidentified
Yeah, to say no Obama, anything Obama, as if that is any sort of an answer, misses the point of all this research.
jason bermas
Alright, Kevin, it's a good call.
I gotta give him a chance to respond.
webster tarpley
There's something of a counter-movement inside the Democratic Party.
It's the Puma Democrats.
You can go to Puma's Unleashed, just say no deal.
There's a whole complex of sites.
They vary in political quality, quite obviously.
But it is essentially the backlash out of the Democratic Party against the Obama-Howard Dean seizure of power.
And one of the benefits here is that there's an openness to New Deal.
Now, this candidate that you've mentioned, the problem there, of course, is that this Pure, reactionary, Republican, Herbert Hoover economics.
This is the kind of thinking that made the Great Depression as deep and as destructive as it was.
There is no debate, really, about what effective economics are.
It's New Deal economics.
If you're in a depression, you better get New Deal economics up and down the line.
unidentified
That would mean...
jason bermas
But let's get beyond that, because we only have a couple minutes.
I want to know what you think about his power structure comment that these guys have...
webster tarpley
I think this is misleading.
In other words, it's kind of...
It's clear that Wall Street has a very strong, decided preference.
If you don't know that Wall Street's the enemy...
That's a problem.
A lot of libertarians think that government is their main enemy.
I think that's extremely foolish.
Government is dominated by Wall Street.
If you look at, you know, look at somebody like Greenspan, is that the Federal Reserve is an independent power?
jason bermas
Aren't they, in essence, their operational arm, their think tank arm, where a lot of their ideas are...
webster tarpley
A lot of this is people looking for reasons not to mobilize, essentially to do nothing, and to say, well, I'll just vote for this one third-party candidate and leave it at that.
That's really choosing, I think, a very facile way out of it.
jason bermas
All right, let's certainly take another call then.
All right, let's jump to John in Ohio.
John, what's on your mind?
unidentified
Yes, I agree with very much of the valuable things that Tarpley is saying.
john in ohio
I really appreciate it, but I think my approach would be that we have to show the overlap between these neocon fascists of the Bush-Cheney group, the McCain group, and the Obama, because I think if I'm going to vote for somebody, it's going to be From a genuine left, a WSWS.org or a WorkersOrg type of real left point of view.
unidentified
The fake left has been the favorite of the CIA all the way back to the Vietnam War, where they preferred to have a fake liberal cover on right-wing propaganda, anti-communist, pro-Vietnam War propaganda.
What I'd like to say, though, is I think we can show the overlap I gotta let you go, John.
jason bermas
I gotta let you go.
Finish up, Webster.
I've got about 20 seconds.
webster tarpley
In other words, the new group around Brzezinski and Soros is worse.
Because the neocons have the elementary cunning of a bully, pick on defenseless countries.
With Brzezinski, you don't have that.
He's picking on Russia and China.
He's picking on states that have...
jason bermas
All right, Webster, I've got to jump.
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Thank you so much for joining us.
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I've been working every day.
We played Billy Bob's last night.
How many days a year do you work?
Do you perform?
Roughly? Well, concerts, probably a couple hundred.
Wow. A year?
Yeah, a year.
A year.
alex jones
Like you say, it's just working two hours a day.
unidentified
Yeah. And then the other 22, you do other...
alex jones
That's a gloss on the paper.
unidentified
Jesus, I'll tell you.
You're a...
You're supposed to be retiring, Willie.
alex jones
By the way, he does one song after another.
unidentified
Willie doesn't give up.
alex jones
He does one song after another, too.
unidentified
It's his favorite song.
Oh, I just saw him this summer.
Like I said, I was at Hinkley at the casino when Willie played up there.
It was great.
I gotta tell you, though, Willie, you need a new guitar.
Well, it's getting kind of holey.
alex jones
Yeah, that guitar is really great.
unidentified
I was looking at that guitar and I was going, my God, that's got to be Willie's first guitar he's out there with.
Look at that son of a gun, it's wore out.
alex jones
It's got a nice sound though.
unidentified
Yeah, it's got the best sound.
That's why you keep playing it, sure.
No, I had to laugh.
alex jones
He's the expert tributary.
unidentified
I look at that guitar and I says, I'll bet you that I'd like to have that, do an interview with that guitar.
If there's one state in America that embarrasses me, and I hate to say it, it's Texas.
On their voting turnout.
I mean, their last government election, 26% of Texans voted for their governor.
Well, I think this year there's more reason to vote.
People will get up and vote against something.
More than they will for something.
alex jones
well specifically this year they're voting against well specifically you were talking about uh...
you're trying to allude to They went too far with 9-11, but in your own words, because it has backfired with 84% in major polls believing they're being lied to about it.
In some polls, about 60% believing it's an inside job.
In polls five years ago, 36% saying inside job.
unidentified
Wait a minute, Alex.
I've got to interject.
Where are all these people?
I'm running into the opposite.
Nobody wants, everyone I run into does not believe.
alex jones
But you're trying to talk to the government.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
Even people on the street.
I got chewed out yesterday watching a football game.
When they asked me what I was doing, I said I'm investigating 9-11.
Oh, you're one of them crazies?
alex jones
These were regular people.
unidentified
These were not people up in high-end government.
alex jones
Jesse, you're asking me a question, let me tell you.
Angus and Reed poll, Wall Street Journal poll, 84% believe they've been lied to about the official story.
I could show you hundreds of polls.
All I know is I've done several thousand radio interviews.
Well, I had a lot of people that agreed with me, and I had a lot of people that didn't.
unidentified
I'd go on shows like Amy Goodman, and she wanted to hear my views, and her and a lot of her listeners agreed that there is something there, there is things to be answered, there are questions.
It's not a cut-and-dried situation.
Never was, to me.
So, is there a reason to investigate?
Well, yeah.
Are there anything...
Is there anything that they're trying to hide?
Evidently, or they talk to Jesse.
alex jones
Well, this is a paradox.
Because, because...
I mean, most people I run into, you know, privately, they'll say, you know, I know something's going on, or even publicly.
Now, I do run into kind of the neocon, 30%, you know, pro-war people, and You're watching a football game, aren't you?
With that kind of, I don't want to say football, but that particular group, that's your Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh.
unidentified
No it isn't.
These are people I grew up with.
Really? These are not Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh people.
alex jones
Well I'm guessing.
unidentified
I was at a football, I was at the Gopher game watching it yesterday with some friends that I've known since I was in 5th grade.
And a few of them there when they asked me what I was doing now, and I said I was investigating 9-11 They said, you're not one of them crazies that thinks that there was da-da-da-da-da-da to it.
There's a certain percentage of people who will not believe that their government will do anything.
Exactly. You have to admit that there are that certain percentage.
And they're bigger than you think.
But they will not believe that their government is capable of doing what we say it may or may not have happened.
Exactly. Willie's right on with that, Alex.
There is a...
alex jones
No, I'm not saying there isn't.
I'm not saying there isn't.
unidentified
It's bigger than my in-laws.
Wait, I told you about my in-laws.
They're elderly people.
I try to show them this.
They want nothing to do.
They will not.
They will not believe.
That our country, the great country that they all served and went through World War II and all of this, they will, they refuse to believe that our country could be evil.
alex jones
I can't believe it.
unidentified
And you can't, you're not going to change them.
I mean, I've pleaded with them.
There's a lot of them that are not going to change their mind.
They will not change their mind.
There's a lot of them that still love what's going on out there.
They love the Iraq war.
They don't know why.
Mainly because they don't have any kids over there.
It's your kids and my kids.
alex jones
Well, that's what I was going to say, is that there is over 30% of the public still believes that WMDs were found, and around 30% of the public believes Saddam Hussein carried out 9-11.
unidentified
I would say it would be higher than that.
alex jones
It was half.
unidentified
I would say it would be higher than that.
alex jones
It was 55% four years ago, but now it's about 35%, now 30%, depending on the poll.
But that's what I'm saying.
Is that you've got 30% that think WMDs were found, they think Saddam carried out the attacks.
So I'm not saying, Governor, that I don't understand that there's people out there.
But they're complete zombies living in total denial, and we know who they are.
I don't care.
If they say WMDs were found, I'm not going to agree with them.
Because we know they're...
I mean, it's delusional.
So yes, you've got 30% that if they were told the moon was made out of cheese by George Bush, they'd believe it.
unidentified
How do you get past that denial, Willie?
And I respect them.
They're terrific people, but they just will not accept that our government would be evil.
alex jones
How do you get past that denial, Willie?
I mean, how do you get folks to break out?
Well, some people break out of it.
unidentified
I don't worry about them.
I go on with my thinking and my job and let them live with their thoughts.
I don't have to be responsible for them.
alex jones
Do you think the truth of 9-11 will ever officially come out, like other things have?
unidentified
I don't know.
The truth about John Kennedy didn't come out.
alex jones
Exactly. I wanted to get you to talk about Kennedy.
Give us your view on that.
unidentified
I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened at 9-11.
I do know that a lot of investigations went on Kennedy that were stifled, just like what you're doing now.
They tried to hold that back.
And, you know, we know he was killed.
We don't know who done it.
The other argument of 9-11, We know those buildings fell down.
A lot of people think it was done this way.
We think it was blown up intentionally.
So we're never going to be able to convince everybody and we're never going to really know for sure.
No. And Willie's exactly right because the simple way they get to that is by the removal of all evidence.
All evidence is gone.
Like when John Kennedy was assassinated, the first thing Lyndon Johnson did was he set the limousine was where a homicide took place.
There should have been the yellow tape around that limo.
That limo shouldn't have been touched until investigators went through it with a fine-tooth comb.
Instead, LBJ orders it sent to Cincinnati.
It's cleaned and refurbished.
Not one person got to look at the actual crime scene, which is backwards to what normally is done.
That's what causes, for me, the light to go on, because when they start doing a crime scene the exact opposite of the way it's supposed to be, That's right.
it. The priority went to the removal.
The investigators were considered Well, they kept them out.
Hold off, Alex.
Black boxes.
That's the exact opposite of the way it should be.
The investigation should always take priority.
And even if they use the excuse, well, we were searching for bodies, there could have been alive people in there, which you can accept, it still doesn't relieve them.
They could have removed that metal and put it somewhere to where later...
And that's what we all assumed they were doing.
They were doing, but it turned out they weren't doing that.
They were destroying it all.
They were building a new ship out of it as a monument.
They were selling it to China and melting it down and doing everything.
And so it's come down to today, and Willie's exactly correct.
We will never know, because here's the reason.
Now we're all experts.
Because with no evidence, with no concrete scientific evidence to go to, all of our opinions are valid.
Whether they be for or against, because there's no way to disprove them.
But isn't it the same thing that happened at the Pentagon?
The very same thing happened.
They came in, they cleaned up everything, they took all the video cameras away, and they dared anybody to say anything.
Yeah, and so now there's no way to prove or disprove anything.
alex jones
Well, Willie, isn't that right there historically, especially in a criminal investigation?
cover-up is generally seen as an evidence of guilt or that there should be a massive investigation.
Can you speak to that?
unidentified
Well, I think that's true.
Anytime you cover up evidence or take evidence away, you have an agenda there.
You're trying to stop people from knowing what happened.
And I really do believe that's what happened.
alex jones
So I think the cover-up's the biggest piece of evidence that it is an inside job.
unidentified
That certainly plays a huge role in it.
alex jones
What's your take on how they blocked the funding for the firefighters and First of all,
unidentified
there's a long list of things that we could do.
Talk about what we don't like about this government and what it's doing and what it hasn't done.
And it goes backwards.
Further than the Bush administration, it goes all the way back to other administrations a long time ago when this country started going the wrong way and started doing things around the world thinking that we were the world's policemen and if also we were the world's resource gatherer, if there was something over there you had, we're gonna come get it.
We'll make you a deal you can't turn down.
So, that's been going on as long as I can remember, as long as I've been watching our government operate.
So, this is just one more time, I think, that they're stepped over the line doing things that they...
As far as I'm concerned, that's not what I hired them for.
they work for me, they work for you, they work for Jesse, and they're screwing up.
alex jones
Well, I think that, like you said earlier, the people are finally really getting fed up, and I don't think they're going to go back to sleep again.
I think the revolution's on.
unidentified
I do.
Well, let me do this.
I don't think they're going to go back to sleep.
Well, you can wait and go back to sleep.
We'll wake them up.
We'll wake them up, but I bet they go back to sleep again.
alex jones
Well, Willie, what are you saying?
I hope I'm wrong.
unidentified
I know.
I just, I believe some of them will go back to sleep because someone didn't want to get woke up.
But there are a group of intelligent young people out there Not very many of my age or your age.
Most of the people my age or your age think just exactly like what you said.
Things are the way they are.
Don't mess with them.
Go do your job, keep your head down, you know, don't stir up anything.
But there's some young people out there with a lot of guts, a lot of balls.
They're going to stir it up.
And they're going to elect Obama.
They're going to elect some government officials.
They're going to elect some senators and congressmen who will go in there and start doing the right thing for a while.
And then you're right.
In a little while, everybody will go back to sleep.
And the guys will say, all right, we're going to let them have it for four to eight years because look how we screwed it up.
Let's back out out of the way and let them have our problems that we created for a while.
And we'll go over here and we'll reorganize and we'll think it over and we'll raise some more money and we'll go get it again.
I agree fully because let's go.
Alex, we talked about history and how if you don't study history, the old cliche, you're deemed to repeat it.
Well, look at my generation and Willie's.
We're the generation of the 60s.
We were supposed to be the rebels.
We were supposed to be the ones who were anti-establishment.
The ones who learned from Vietnam.
The ones that saw all this stuff go down.
And yet, what has happened to all of us?
Where did we all go?
I was so proud of the peaceniks.
I was so proud of the guys who got out there and fought against the war and come home from Vietnam and say, hey, that's wrong.
But they went back to sleep.
That's right.
What happened to peace on Earth?
I remember growing up that that was what we were all taught was going to happen one day.
I go to church and they say, well, you've got the Prince of Peace, Jesus, he's going to come and there's going to be peace on Earth for a thousand years.
I said, I can't wait.
Where is it?
But that's essentially the problem.
We do it, and hopefully something will change.
But the problem is this.
Everybody lives in their own little world, and if their own little world is not affected directly, they will ignore it.
But right now, with the economy sinking, their world is affected.
I agree.
And gasoline, they are affected.
They're going to have to start growing their own vegetables again.
That's great.
I'm glad to see them having to get out and dig in that soil and plant a seed and sit back and watch it grow.
But that's America.
Where they've been is not America.
Living on, you know, eight or ten houses and six yachts and going off and starting these big corporations where they screwed me and you out of money and they grew over seeds.
That's not America.
Now, I want to see one of those guys get out there and have to grow his own potatoes.
We have to stop electing Democrats and Republicans.
And we have to start electing and destroying this system they've created that is so corrupt within itself that we're a two-party dictatorship now.
Politics in America today is identical to pro-wrestling.
And what I mean by that is, in front of the cameras and the public, we all hate each other.
I'm gonna kick my opponent's butt.
I'm gonna wail him from here to high water and beat the crap out of him.
Yet behind the scenes with all our friends going out to dinner.
Went to dinner together.
And it's all a work.
alex jones
All intermarried.
unidentified
Show business.
It's show business.
Up till 2006 you had a Republican Congress and a Republican President.
Then along came the election of 2006 which was the war in Iraq.
The U.S. people spoke clearly.
They said, get us out of Iraq.
So they elected the Democrats.
The Democrats took both houses.
And two years later, are we out of Iraq?
jason bermas
No! Alright, there you have it.
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Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
unidentified
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Final segment of the third hour.
In the fourth hour, we'll be streaming live via PrisonPlanet.tv.
We're going to have Ray McGovern, the 26-year CIA analyst, the veteran, on to talk about the current election, on to talk about his latest article where he really denounces the Washington Post, I believe, for their little editorial page.
Oh, it looks like the war with Iran is off the table with both us and Israel.
unidentified
How sad.
jason bermas
And he really goes over that, how that's not a sad thing, and he does hope it's the truth, and I doesn't understand their attitude towards it.
But in this segment, I want to read this article out of the National Post.
Now, this is a big paper out in Canada, and Jonathan Kaye, I guess, this guy who writes for them for many years, wrote something about the 9-11 truth movement, and then he had to write this.
Jonathan Kaye on the humbling frustrations of debating 9-11 truthers.
Want to fill up your inbox?
Write a column denouncing the 9-11 truth movement.
These are the people who dismissed the official 9-11 explanation as White House-filled lie.
One truther's sect believes the American government, or rogue elements within it, planned the September 11th attacks under a false flag.
Another concedes Al-Qaeda's involvement, but insists the plot was known to the warmongering Bush administration.
Other truthers favor more exotic explanations, featuring missiles, remote-controlled airliners, the Mossad, mini-nukes, and even space weapons.
What they all have in common, I've learned, is a hate-on for journalists who blithely dismiss them as nutbars, as I did a few weeks ago in a blog post about ex-liberal candidate and unapologetic truther, Leslie Hughes.
Normally, I confess these are the sort of correspondence I delete from my inbox without much guilt.
As with all conspiracy theorists, see this is what I don't like, debate is pointless, since they have no chance of convincing me, nor I them.
Why waste my time parsing their arguments?
But see, he admits he won't be swayed no matter what.
But something about the truth or email, I got aroused my interest.
For one thing, there was a lot of it, which perhaps should not surprise me.
As the Post's Adrienne Humphries reported last week, 39% of Canadians either reject or doubt the official explanation for the 9-11 attacks.
unidentified
That's 40%.
jason bermas
That's four in ten.
That's a major thing in Canada.
Major! Secondly, many of these messages, a majority in fact, were lucid and coherent, well-written even.
Some of the senders had letters after their names, and even email addresses contained the domain names of recognizable universities.
Conspiracy theorists they may be, but they're certainly not sub-human weirdos who try to convince me the Holocaust never happened, nor the anti-social paranoiacs who send me weekly updates about their decade-long litigation campaign against their ex-landlords.
So I like that too.
He at least admits, you know, we have a standing.
Thirdly, they have a point.
Something that hit home when I read this stinging comment in a message from Winnipeg area writer Dallas Hanson.
Take a look at the mound of evidence suggesting a blackout.
I'm sure you're a smart guy, but posturing as though you've got all the answers to 9-11 and defaming those who question the explanation we've been given is a little much.
September 11th wasn't a black op.
But Hansen is right, that, like mainstream journalists, I overplay my intellectual hand when it comes to 9-11 and just about everything else besides.
I could lie to Mr. Hansen and my readers and tell them I've read the U.S. government's 571-page 9-11 commission report.
Or a Popular Mechanics magazine authoritative report on debunking the 9-11 myths.
But the truth is that I haven't.
I never felt the need to, because on a purely instinctive level, I've always believed the truther's case was complete nonsense.
But he cops to it and he says he's going to read those things, while I send him an email urging him to watch Fabled Enemies and then the Loose Chain series, and I hope you help me out and do the same.
unidentified
I'd like to see him take a look at that evidence.
jason bermas
Ray McGovern coming up next.
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Music All right, folks, we're back.
jason bermas
It is the final hour of the Alex Jones Show.
I'm Jason Burmess sitting in.
If you missed any of the first three hours, the interviews with Jesse, the interviews with Willie on the bus, the Barack Obama discussion with his assassination attempt, the parent one that just sounded completely off the wall, the hour and a half we spent with Webster Tarplet.
Remember that gets re-streamed over at Infowars.com for free, all day, until the next broadcast.
It's really amazing.
Alex Jones just provides so much ammunition for the InfoWars, and I just want to thank him from the bottom of my heart for everything he's done for me, helping me put together Fabled Enemies, which I really do believe is an important picture, and I hope you go out there and pick it up from InfoWars.com, make copies, and hand them out.
But more importantly, today I'm not asking for a donation.
I'm not even asking for a vote.
I'm asking you to go to this NationalPost.com website, How are you doing today?
unidentified
Yeah, I wanted to speak.
I really was calling to speak to your last guest, but I want to speak on some of the points that you made from the back of Barack Obama.
First I want to talk about him saying that Ralph Nader was stepping up, saying that Barack Obama is duping the black community and things like that.
The first thing about that I want to say is that Ralph Nader doesn't speak up any time Well, when issues go on in the black community and injustice is done by people in this country, I've never heard Rob Nutter speak up.
jason bermas
Well, he's a bit of a gun grabber, I'll give him that.
I mean, he always talks about, you know, against automatic weapons in inner cities and stuff like that.
I'm not really for that, so.
I mean, I feel like that's a form of gun control.
It's kind of soft, but continue.
unidentified
Well, I mean, I'm not speaking black.
I'm black, so I'm going to tell you, like, I don't know if you know what will go on, but some of the things that go on, like with the Juniors 6, Sean Bale killing me, and just all kind of just...
jason bermas
So are you holding for Barack?
unidentified
Let me finish.
Sure. I've never heard him speak up, and he's been on Al Sharpton's show, so it's not like he hasn't had a chance to speak on those things, but when he's on Al Sharpton's show, and that's about as much in the black community, as much as you can get, I mean, as big an opportunity as you can get to speak to the black community, he hasn't done that.
And also, when it comes to Barack Obama, you know, not caring about the black community, Guys like Professor Charles Oventree, Dick Gregory, Martin Luther King III, these are some of the most prominent people in the black community, and they're not part of the New World Order.
Matter of fact, these people are some of the most anti-New World Order people you can get if you ever listen to Dick Gregory.
jason bermas
Yeah, but I don't know how that translates into Barack Obama being anti-New World Order.
unidentified
I'm about to tell you.
If you ever listen to Dick Gregory speaking, he speaks on Warren Ballantyne's radio show all the time.
He does the show like once a month, and he gives them a whole hour.
He's always speaking against the New World Order.
He's always breaking things down.
He's kind of like Jordan Maxwell.
He's like the black Jordan Maxwell.
All the people back Barack Obama.
So if Barack Obama is so much this globalist New World Order people, why are all these prominent people who are very anti-New World Order?
jason bermas
Well, first of all, there's a controlled opposition, number one.
Number two, did you listen to his Berlin, Germany speech about six months ago?
Listen, man, just go check it out.
Just type in Barack Obama in Berlin, Germany.
If you can't tell that this guy has a globalist perspective on the world, I mean, he's really literally talking about a million and a half man youth brigade.
He's also talking about global citizenship.
Hold on.
And his wife and him are open CFR members.
It's a globalist organization.
He's a total globalist, man.
And look, I'm voting for a black woman for president.
You know, to me, race doesn't have that much significance.
I like her policies.
I think that Cynthia McKinney is much more of a real person, much more of a bulldog.
She's the real anti-New World Order, black candidate, and I'm gonna vote for her.
I mean, I just don't see...
I don't see this revolutionary that they're portraying on the television.
I don't see the guy that's on the Zoomies t-shirt when I go to the mall as, like, this guy that's gonna help us.
I thank you for the call.
I thank you for the opinion, man.
I gotta jump because I got Ray McGovern coming up after the break.
We're gonna take your calls in about 30 minutes.
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The enemy struck America on September 11th.
But who is the enemy?
Bin Laden.
This is his MO.
We have to look to the Middle East.
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
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Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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Bin Laden's connections to the CIA.
The hijackers'ties to the FBI.
The Saudi Arabian connection.
The Israeli intelligence network.
Warnings and war games.
The shadow government.
And much, much more.
Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
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