Webster Tarpley joins Jason Bermas to dissect the 2008 election, labeling Obama a "fascist" leader of a "Mussolini-fascist corporate state" backed by a "Rice, Gates, Mullen, Paulson regime." They allege a "$1.5 quadrillion derivatives bubble" fueled the bailout and claim Obama employs "weatherman terrorist" tactics and hypnosis to brainwash followers into a "neo-fascist mass movement." The discussion covers alleged CIA summonses of Jesse Ventura, white supremacist assassination plots involving the numbers 88 and 14, and broader accusations that the two-party system serves a globalist dictatorship. Ultimately, the episode argues that both candidates are puppets of the New World Order, urging listeners to reject the false left-right dialectic. [Automatically generated summary]
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I'm going to be sitting in all four hours today, but it's jam-packed.
We're going to be playing a lot of the Willie Nelson, Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura conversations that we threw up on InfoWars.com in the wee hours of the morning last night, I guess.
I don't know.
3 a.m. is kind of a vague area.
I guess they started going up at around 11 to 1, but Last one got up there at three, but we're even going to have some more for you.
We're also going to have Willie on the bus exclusively in the second or third hour.
We also have Webster Tarpley on to talk about the elections and of course other things, and Ray McGovern will be on later as well, the 26-year CIA veteran, the intelligence analyst that would literally do the briefings for Dick Cheney and company during the Reagan administration.
I'm pretty curious to see, you know, these guys apparently are white supremacists.
We're going to play a mainstream clip from CBS that we're going to try to shoot him with a scope rifle at 750 yards.
I'm not sure, but I saw some people in the media reporting something about a decapitation.
I didn't see anything about that in this one.
I'm wondering, you know, obviously there's racism in the world, folks.
I'm not advocating that.
Obviously there are people that It would have a vested interest in just killing this man out of hate, not because of what he stands for or anything like that, but just because of the color of his skin, and that's unfortunate.
But I want to see if these guys are in an organization, what kind of ties they have, because you know that these guys get caught all the time being coddled and prodded by feds.
And we're going to talk about Lou Dobbs doing, like, a nine-minute report, basically saying what we've been saying for years, what Alex has been saying for well over a decade now, that martial law ... is a very big concern here in the United States.
This is the Alex Jones Show, PrisonPlanet.tv, PrisonPlanet.com, and we're going to come back with a little Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura, and Alex Jones.
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music plays So I, being like a typical former service guy, felt that I guess it's my obligation to go down and, you know, talk to these guys.
So I went down, and being who I am, I got down there and, you know, in the bowels of the Capitol, right in the Capitol, I mean, it was in the basement.
I'll never forget it.
They were seated all in a big half circle and I got the chair in the center.
And that's where I was put, with this half circle group of 23 members of the CIA.
And I think the first thing that really made me Got my awareness up was as I looked at them all they were all your neighbors.
I Mean you weren't looking at James Bond here You know you went down there with the feeling you were gonna walk in and see all these Former Navy SEALs and former Delta Force guys who are now out and they're now working in the intelligence community and all this It was Grandma Jones down the street.
It was so-and-so.
I mean, they were of all ages.
You knew them?
No, I knew none of them.
They looked like regular people.
That's the part I didn't do, Willie, is the fact that when I looked at them, I saw my neighbors.
Not actually.
What I meant by that, Willie, was I saw My people just like my people you'd never suspect.
Because these are people in the Central Intelligence Agency.
They were of all ages, all colors, all looked like almost different categories of wealth.
What kind of training do you think they had?
I don't know.
This was part of it though.
I'm sure they get trained.
And actually I found out this was actually many of them's part of their training.
This was a training exercise that was likewise going on as well as fact-getting.
And so I sat down and I looked at them all because I wrote about it in my last book and so I don't mind talking at all about it.
I remember I looked at them all and the first thing I said, I said, well, I said, before you ask me any questions, I've got a few for you that I'd like answered.
I said, quid pro quo.
You know, if you ask me questions, I get to ask you questions.
And I said, my first question is, what are you doing here?
And the head guy, they were very formal, they were always governor, sir, very much that way, very respectful.
But I remember the head guy looked at me and he said, uh, what do you mean, governor?
And I said, well, what I mean is that your mission statement says you're not to be operational inside the United States.
What are you here for?
This is clearly inside the United States.
Well, I got hemmed and hawed and didn't really get an answer.
You know, double talked and all that.
Then I said, my second question, I said, I want to go around the room.
And I said, I want you to tell me your name and what you do.
Half of them wouldn't tell me their names.
Half of them wouldn't tell me what they did.
Who knows if they're really telling you their correct name?
No way of knowing.
And so I said, well, look, if you're not going to cooperate fully with my questioning, I said, I'm probably going to find it difficult to fully cooperate with yours.
It's got to be equal here.
So I ended up, and the amazing thing, like I said to Alex, or made mention to him, was that all of their questions dealt about how I won the election.
They wanted to know what we did, how we did it, did we think, da-da, da-da.
And so when I got done that day, I drove home, and all the way home, I kept thinking, it was on my mind, and I kept thinking, who would I call?
Who do I know that could answer these questions for me or help me?
And then the name popped up, Dick Marcinko.
Do you know who Dick Marcinko is?
Richard Marcinko is the author of the Rogue Warrior books.
He's a 32-year member of SEAL Team.
And Dick created SEAL Team 6, which is the anti-terrorist unit.
These are the guys that have hair like you, Willie, and beards, and you'd never suspect they're in the United States Navy.
They're deep undercover, you know.
And Dick created them.
He created Red Cell.
And Dick retired after 32 years.
He's a good friend of mine.
So I got home and I rang Dick up.
I told him what happened that day and I says, Dick, I said, you got any idea why the CIA 23 members would want to interview me?
And Dick starts laughing on the other end and I said, what's so funny?
He said, well, he said, I don't, he said, I've been out of it a few years.
So he said, I can't directly tell you why.
He said, I don't know directly why, but he said, I have an idea.
And I said, well, Dick, your idea is going to be better than mine.
I said, I had six years in the Navy, you had 32. I said, you got a lot more expertise.
I said, what's your idea?
He said, well, he said, here's what I believe.
He said, they didn't see you coming.
He said, and then it made sense.
He said, their job is to gather intelligence so that they can report that to the government and the government can then make decisions based on the gathering of that intelligence.
He said, clearly they didn't see you coming.
They wanted to know how you did it.
And they also wanted to know, are there more of you on the horizon?
Is this a trend we're missing?
Are we missing something here that could be happening within the United States like the next election?
Are we going to see four more independent governors win?
Or is Minnesota kind of an isolated incidence here?
And when Dick got through saying that to me, I thought he's right on.
That's exactly what it was.
Well, there you go.
Even more evidence that this shadow government, this conduit of government special interests, corporations have really taken over.
I mean, this is really where they tested out whether or not they could get out with a massive military operation inside the United States, a false flag op here, using military drills, using continuity of government as a cover.
And that's what's brought us here today, seven plus years later, with Lou Dobbs finally coming around, finally coming around and saying, I mean, this is a big report right here.
Questions tonight about an army combat brigade being trained to deal with civil disturbances in the United States.
The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 generally prohibits federal uniformed services from carrying out domestic law enforcement duties, except in cases expressly authorized by the Constitution or an Act of Congress.
Critics say the brigade's training goes against one of the founding principles of our country, separation of military and civilian government.
Louise Schiavone has our report.
They've spent 30 months on the streets of Baghdad.
Now the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division is back in the USA.
The Army Times reported, quote, they may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios, end quote.
The question arises, why?
And isn't that what the National Guard does?
Infantry Brigade is designed to engage an enemy with maximum effective force and destroy it.
That's not the sort of thing anybody wants to see.
In the streets of the United States.
Almost 5,000 strong, the brigade is based at Fort Stewart, Georgia under quote, the primary purpose of this force is to provide help to people in need in the aftermath of a WMD-like event in the homeland so that were they called to support civil authority, those governors or local state jurisdictions that might need our help, that they would be responsive and capable in the aftermath of an event like this, end quote.
On Capitol Hill, questions about how the Pentagon determined that a thinly-stretched military with two conflicts underway could spare these troops.
That's a misuse of assets.
Those assets can be deployed, I think, more efficiently somewhere else when you have a guard that you can call up on a moment's notice.
Historically, the posting is unusual.
In modern history, Army troops have been used at extraordinary junctures.
Under the first President Bush to contain the 1992 riots in Los Angeles, under President Lyndon Johnson in response to Unpopular presidents,
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And, uh, speaking of 9-11 Truth, I guess I should play this, uh, this Palin clip, or a little portion of it, and, uh, hopefully people will be able to hear it.
And like I said, I want to see if these guys perhaps were provocateured, if they are part of some ridiculous Ku Klux Klan or neo-Nazi organization that has been infiltrated by the FBI.
It keeps the masses ninnying about little things, and at the same time it becomes very real because people buy into it, and then it creates this conflict where they're able to put in their own rules and regulations, put them in their privatized prisons, and you know, the private corporations will use them to be a telemarketer for 39 cents an hour and ask you if you want to change phones or You know, perhaps get this new insurance plan.
With an alleged plot to assassinate Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Tonight four people are under arrest.
CBS 4 investigator Brian Moss has learned exclusive details just within the past few hours.
Brian, one man told the FBI there was actually a plan to shoot Obama Thursday night at Invesco.
That's indeed part of what we found out Jim.
Unsettling information.
And clearly federal authorities are taking this very seriously.
Tonight we've learned details about this apparent plot that has law enforcement now trying to connect the dots.
Early Sunday morning, police in Aurora pulled over 28-year-old Theron Gartrell on a routine traffic stop.
The driver of a vehicle was driving erratically.
The maneuver appeared to be going from one lane erratically into another lane.
It turned out to be anything but routine.
In his rented pickup truck, police found two high-powered scoped rifles, a bulletproof vest, two wigs, a spotting scope, two walkie-talkies, a wireless phone, three IDs in other people's names, part of a pistol, camouflage clothing, and 4.4 grams of methamphetamine.
One of the rifles is listed as stolen out of Kansas, according to the ATF.
Members of the agency are clearly on a heightened alert based upon the security that's involved with a convention the size of the one that's occurring in Denver.
And so, behavior like this can be characterized as highly suspicious.
According to an FBI bulletin shared with CBS 4, Gartrell told authorities the weapons belonged to a friend, Nathan Johnson.
Police arrested Johnson and his girlfriend at a Denver hotel on drug charges.
At the same time, the Secret Service hit this hotel in nearby Glendale early Sunday morning to talk to Sean Robert Adolph, an associate of Gartrell's and Johnson's.
But Adolph jumped out a sixth floor window to escape police.
He suffered only a broken ankle.
When he was arrested, the FBI says he had a...
Alright, folks, we'll be back with the rest of the Barack Obama assassination attempt.
Tarpley coming up and Willie Nelson on the bus.
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According to the court affidavit sworn by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives agent Daniel Cowart, 20, and Paul Schleschman, 18, began discussing the murder plot after meeting online about a month ago.
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Okay, so these guys met in some kind of racist forum, perhaps?
In the ATF affidavit, a copy of which you'll find below, Coward and Chesswoman discuss the killing spree to include targeting a predominantly African American school, going state to state, while robbing individuals, and continuing to kill people.
As soon as you start a killing spree in one town, you're probably gonna get killed.
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The pair's final act of violence would be an attempt to kill Obama, the Democratic presidential nominee.
In separate interviews with investigators, the men said they planned to spread their vehicle towards Obama while shooting at him from the windows, apparently befitting the historic assault.
Coward and Sussman stated they would dress in all-white tuxedos and wear top hats during the assassination attempt.
Jeez. Cowart and Stesselman were arrested last Wednesday night by Tennessee Sheriff deputies soon after the pair used chalk to write numerous racially motivated words and symbols, including a swastika, on the exterior of Cowart's automobile.
Cowart left and Stesselman are pictured in these mugshots snapped by the Crockett County Sheriff's Department.
As a result of this bizarre plot, the wannabe assassins were named in a three-count federal felony complaint, a copy of which you'll find here.
And then there's the affidavits pretty quick.
Uh, Brian A. Weeks, I'm employed with a Special Agents.
We'll go over it in about 25 minutes when we have him on.
You know, I've been on for about 35 minutes.
I really haven't promoted anything that we do here over at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlan.com.
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And I am a filmmaker.
I just put out a film called Fabled Enemies.
About two months ago now, and you can get it over at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, watch it in high quality at PrisonPlanet.tv, but, you know, being with Jesse Wintoura and Alex Jones, and of course Willie Nelson, all day two days ago, you know, we talked a lot about, you know, what was going on and how it was handled.
And if somebody who is not quite as delusional and fairytale and much more psychopathic and sociopathic and racist Truly did want to try something on Obama for nothing but the color of his skin.
The student scholars for 9-11 Truth got him on record saying there would be a lot coming out about 9-11 across the board as this administration left, which I think will be the case.
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However, he's a Council on Foreign Relations gentleman.
For new listeners, the Council on Foreign Relations is like this...
remember there's a lot posted right now over info wars He said, well, you know, for instance, Carol Quigley, who was a Georgetown professor, you know, inner circle of the elite, was given access to a lot of these roundtable members or basically the ruling, the Anglo ruling class that had consolidated a lot of power around the mid-1800s, early 1900s.
Okay. And this book is called Tragedy and Hope, and he talks about how they recruit people and massage them into it through Rhodes Scholarships and, you know, cars and women, the whole nine.
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I mean, he basically shows you...
How they how they recruit people and he also talks more more About their policies and how most of them, you know He's in favor of and he may not be in favor of their methods all the time But overall their their goals are goals that he would like to see Now he makes the point That Bill Clinton of course was a Quigley protege and for those that don't know on two separate occasions Bill Clinton, you know gave big ups to his mentor Carol Quigley.
G. Edward Griffin gives a stunning presentation on the quote-unquote New World Order and how it was formed and really, you know, he does that when he does the creature from Jekyll Island.
It's just amazing.
And this is open source information and it's really out there mostly, or was out there mostly, For the elitist, they did like a small print run and now it's been a cult classic and reprinted because more people are hip and aware of these things.
But this consolidation of power takes place and now we're left with Barack Obama who, come on, I mean, if you can't see that this man is a globalist, he's talking about a million and a half man youth brigade.
I don't know how much we got on camera with that, but Wow, that experience with Ventura and Willie Nelson was just off the wall.
I mean, you're in Willie's little luck town where they've shot, you know, movies and music videos and, you know, Willie's just chilling behind the bar and having a good time and riding around in his old Chevy pickup.
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I mean, he's not blinging.
And that's why, you know, I really admire somebody like Willie Nelson, who has the guts to step up and say all these things and jeopardizes everything.
His, you know, his family, you know, his stability.
I mean, obviously, he's Willie Nelson.
But, I mean, you know, you can get attacked, and he was attacked severely, especially by Fox News, O'Reilly, and all that.
And of course, anybody but is checked, and he really says, you know, remember he was talking, he was up on Barack Obama when he first came on this show.
He thought Barack was the real deal, he was saying the right things, and then he started to backpedal like a politician, and Jesse realized it.
I mean, people get death, you know, the presidents especially, get ludicrous death threats all the time.
I mean, this office alone has been visited by the Secret Service because people posting physical threats on message boards towards the president and other public officials.
Oh man, but there are elections that do really matter.
I would love to see Cindy Sheehan take the seat I'm Nancy Pelosi in the house.
How great would that be?
Are you listening, California?
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Are you listening?
We need to get Cindy Sheehan into Congress.
And yesterday, you know, Jesse popped in already, on behalf of Dean Barkley, out in the great state of Minnesota, where GCN, John Harmon, and Ted Anderson are all located.
He's going for the real deal, the whole shebango, the Senate.
Okay, but on the other level, you know, congressmen in New York and California tend to get a lot more press coverage than any other congressman in the country.
Hour and a half after that, we're going to have Willie Nelson on the bus.
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I did pull up a news clip And right now, there's another breaking story coming into our newsroom.
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Federal agents have disrupted an alleged plot to assassinate presidential candidate Barack Obama, as well as dozens of African Americans.
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Chuck? Linda, two alleged skinheads, according to federal authorities, met about a month ago on the internet.
They have been in custody since last Wednesday as authorities investigated what was behind the suspected plot against Senator Obama.
Last week, according to the authorities, they were driving around central Tennessee discussing a white power murder plot, their car sporting a swastika in window chalk, And other race hate symbols.
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The men, allegedly led by this man, 20-year-old Danny Cowart of Bells, Tennessee, allegedly planned to go on a national killing spree with Mr. Obama as their final target.
They said that would be their last final act, according to a federal official.
That they would attempt to kill Senator Obama.
They didn't believe they would be able to do it, but that they would get killed trying.
We took these photos a little while ago from Cowart's MySpace page on the internet, a site loaded with pictures of guns that he claimed to own.
Cowart and a man named Paul Schlesselman, 18 years old, were arrested in Tennessee after Crockett County sheriffs received a tip from a neighboring sheriff's department.
The plotters admitted to investigators that they were planning to rob a gun shop to steal weapons for their killing spree.
Investigators say the men had several weapons at the time they were arrested last week, including a Fozzie.308 rifle and sawed-off shotguns.
According to the affidavit on file in Washington, The men plan to go on a nationwide killing spree, targeting an African-American school in Tennessee.
But they then plan to go to other states, and when they finally met up with Obama, according to federal investigators, they planned to drive their vehicle as fast as they could toward him, all of them dressed in white tuxedos and wearing top hats as they carried it out.
We're still looking into this.
It's just unfolding within the past hour out of Washington, and we will have much more coming up Later on the ABC 7 news.
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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He's the T-Rex of political talk, Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
I want to remind everybody to go to InfoWars.com and pick up a copy of my latest film, Fabled Enemy Stills, with really the intelligence ties with the Mossad, the Pakistani ISI, the Continuity of Government program here in the United States, and 9-11.
But right now we have Webster Tarpley, who of course is the author of Synthetic Terror, and of course, Obama, the Postmodern Coup.
Excellent. Well, obviously, I mean, let's get right into it.
We're one week away from the election.
You've been very anti-Obama.
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I mean, I'm not saying you're pro-McCain, obviously, or not, but why, for our audience, why don't you give an overview of why you think he is the much more dangerous candidate?
Uh, and that is something unlike any other candidate seen so far.
And in order to get into this, you've got to really go back and look at what fascism was, which is not what Naomi Klein, uh, I'm sorry, Naomi Wolf, or Naomi Klein for that matter, or this guy Brit, or others are going to tell you, or for that matter, Jonah Goldberg.
There's a whole cottage industry to try to obscure what fascism was.
Fascism is not a top-down dictatorship that becomes more and more so-called Stringent and oppressive, and you get a complete police state from the top down.
For that, you wouldn't need a new term.
That would just be a police state dictatorship, or a tyranny, or despotism, or something like that.
Fascism has another component, which is a demagogic, pseudo-revolutionary, hyper-revolutionary mass movement.
And that's got to have grassroots cover.
It's got to be anti-authoritarian.
It's got to be radical.
It's got to be leftist.
It's got to be anti-establishment.
And the only candidate in the field right now who has that is, of course, Obama.
He's got this legion of Kool-Aid drinkers and fanatics, people who are devoted to a personality cult of Obama, and not to any set of issues.
And there's a kind of utopian, apocalyptic aspect to this, that what's going to come out of this is not just policies that might be better or might be worse, but it's a radical renewal of the world A renewal of the human personality and so forth, and this is the most dangerous stuff you can get.
So, I would say right now the biggest danger is a seizure of power by the Repo clique, by the Reed-Pelosi-Obama clique.
That would essentially be the Mussolini-fascist corporate state.
And again, corporate in this case means a guild.
It doesn't mean a modern corporation in the way that Mussolini used it.
And that would be pretty much, you've got the fascistization of the economy.
through the seven hundred billion dollar bailout for goldman sachs uh...
that is set up what amounts to a compulsory state-sponsored cartel to drive down wages to drive down production but to shore up this uh...
one point five quadrillion dollar derivatives bubble that we're stuck with let's get into the bailout in a minute and i want to talk about what you just said about obama because i can't help but agree with you that he does have like this Rockstar image where people do follow him.
I mean I've seen more artwork that spooks me out that reminds me more of like you know Maoist propaganda and these these you know portraits of him in like blue and off red.
It is spooky to me there.
And I do see where you're coming from on the fascist end as well, but are we really going to see that much of a difference than someone like McCain coming in who really looks like, I mean, no offense, but a walking corpse.
I mean, I don't think he's going to make many decisions except for that on behalf of the establishment.
I agree that he probably will not be able to coerce the people as easily.
If I may, Obama is the biggest warmonger in the field.
Obama is a bigger warmonger than McCain.
Obama is personally committed to bombing the hell out of Pakistan.
He's very, very strong on that.
And he started with that already a year ago this summer in Chicago, demanding the unilateral U.S. bombing of Pakistan.
And no two ways about it.
He repeated that in his Denver Convention speech, saying, we've got to go and get bin Laden at the cave where he exists.
Now, the world has changed.
Nobody, not even these characters, have any serious interest in this bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, 9-11, war on terror.
This is not what they're doing now.
They're attacking Pakistan because it's a Chinese ally.
The world has radically shifted.
And Obama, of course, is a key part of the shift.
We no longer have a neocon Bush-Cheney regime in Washington.
What we've got is a Rice, Gates, Mullen, Paulson regime, which is run by trilaterals, Bilderbergers, people like Goldman Sachs, Soros, David Rockefeller, and so forth.
And the target list has changed radically.
Pakistan is the target because it's a Chinese ally.
Biden is famous for his anti-Sudan tirades.
And it's not about Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, it's that you need a humanitarian invasion.
He says we've got to go in and save the people from genocide.
The point is that what they're after is to cut off the oil to China.
Everybody knows that China gets 6, 7, 8 percent of their oil from Sudan.
So the whole strategic map has changed.
The people that are caught in the left-liberal universe, They still don't understand this.
They still think that they're dealing with Bush-Cheney and the neocons and that there's going to be an attack on Iran.
I don't think there will be.
There's an attack on Pakistan that's going on every day.
There's an imminent attack on Sudan.
And above all, the whole thing has shifted with Georgia being played against Russia by these people.
We're now looking at confrontations in Central Europe.
So the short answer to your question is, which imperialist do you want to fight?
Do you want to fight a demagogic imperialist?
Imperialist of the type of Obama who promises a facelift for the Anglo-American policy, who can turn out 200,000 German lemmings in Berlin, who's got this legion of Kool-Aid cultists, or do you want a tired old reactionary, a lame duck, a transitional figure, someone who would be facing, like McCain, facing a Congress that would be very hostile to him because they would feel that they had been robbed of their one-party state?
I think What you really hope to get out of this thing, and it's a very modest program, is divided government.
We want gridlock.
We don't want bipartisan unity around new bailouts of the type that Goldman Sachs is demanding.
We don't want the Social Security Trust Fund to be looted in this attempt to prop up the derivatives bubble.
So Obama is simply more dangerous and more effective.
If you want to organize the third world war, you need Obama.
You're not going to get anywhere with McCain, because nobody in Europe is going to deliver money or troops to the U.S. based on McCain's face.
McCain can't go to Africa and say, brothers, join with me and kick out these Chinese interlopers.
Obama can do these things.
He's more effective for imperialism.
And I'm basically in the business of trying to make imperialism weaker rather than stronger.
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That's, I think, a way to approach the election.
Well, I hear you there, Webster, but I just feel in my heart I can't vote anything but my heart.
I hope she does the best she can, and I hope she at least embarrasses Mrs. Pelosi as much as possible.
But the question of dictatorship, see, One thing is, you know, the FBI comes and harasses you.
That's what we've seen with the Patriot Act.
And it's clear that that has limits.
You get to a point where the police and the secret police are not enough, and the army cannot be relied on.
And that's the classic point where the financiers, the Soros, Rockefeller, Goldman Sachs types, turn to a mass movement of gutter snipes and hooligans and thugs and goons and fervently idealistic students.
Pretty much the Obama, this legion that he's got, the sort of left liberals who, they've been so blinded by their hatred of Bush and Cheney that they have imitated them in many ways, and they're now interested in suppressing free speech.
They want to shut you down if you criticize their idol, and they bring to this a religious fanaticism that you just don't see on the other side.
There's no group in this society That is, you know, a thousand percent devoted to McCain.
And this simply means that Obama is by far the most dangerous.
So, if you come out of it with McCain and a Democratic Congress, let them fight each other to a standstill.
That's the most you can hope for.
I don't know what else you can hope for.
And by the way, don't blame me for the situation, because I didn't create it.
I mean, you put Barack Obama in, you're more likely to get a progression of this with the people really standing for it, because again, he's a charismatic guy, he's a good speaker.
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I haven't seen a speaker, a politician as slick as him since Bill Clinton, who was able to...
I wasn't around when Mussolini was around, and I don't speak Italian, so I can't really speak to how charismatic he was, but, you know, Clinton I mean, he was smooth.
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He still is smooth.
I mean, he's really good, and I see that in Barack Obama.
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And before the break, I was trying to make the point that this, this rave of the economy has already really more than begun.
I mean, this bailout is huge, and this is under the Bush regime.
And now we're moving, probably, into, you know, Obama.
And to me, it's almost like the same people are heading both of them up it's just going to be a continuation Uh, you know, and I don't think that it's any less severe.
I mean, I still see an agenda in Eurasia.
I still see an agenda here at home.
But don't we already live in really a pseudo-fascist society right now?
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I mean, the corporations pretty much have a dominant monopoly on the arms industry, on the housing market, on the media itself, Webster.
You're making the mistake that people in Italy made in 1919, and they said, how could it get worse?
We've got people that are forgotten today.
We've got FACTA.
We've got SALANDRA.
How could it be worse?
And when Mussolini seized power with the March on Rome in 1922, they found it could get infinitely worse.
And the same thing was in Germany.
It was complicated by the fact that people by that time in the early 30s had been looking at Mussolini for a while.
And there were a lot of leftists and labor people in Germany who said, well, Brüning is as bad as bad can be.
He's already a fascist.
So this Hitler will not make a big difference.
And then, when they went off the cliff in January of 1933, they saw that there was a qualitative difference.
And this you can see in the memoirs and the memorabilia of the period.
The people had this idea that it was already as bad as it could get, but their imagination was nowhere near rich enough to grasp what was coming their way.
Look, the whole scenario for Obama has now been blurted out by Biden in Seattle on the 19th of October.
He says basically two things.
One is a 12-month perspective where he says, our economic decisions to deal with this systemic crisis And breakdown crisis of the banking system.
These decisions that we will have to make will be sound decisions, he says, because he's a banker's boy.
But they will be so unpopular that our regime will collapse in the polls within 12 months.
So we want you to support us because we're making sound decisions even though everybody's going to say, wait a minute, what are you doing?
I didn't vote for this.
I didn't want this.
That's the 12-month perspective.
I mention this one because this is the one the Republicans Generally don't want to talk about, because they're going to try to do the same thing.
That's correct.
Now, the other side of it is the six-month perspective.
That there's going to be a generated international crisis, hooked up, and it's going to involve the Middle East, but Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, is the one that I would point you to, because that already represents a qualitative escalation of the insanity and the danger.
A country like Iran, basically defenseless, in the sense of International, intercontinental strategic weaponry.
They can do a lot in the Gulf.
They can do things in Iraq.
They can do a great deal.
But there's really very little way that they could strike the United States with any military means.
But when you're dealing with Russia and China, then everything changes radically.
You're talking about intercontinental ballistic missiles, hydrogen bomb warheads, things that are much better, in fact, than a lot of things that the U.S. has.
So Biden says, we're going to have a test in the first six months.
And then he points out the righteousness of the U.S. position will not be evident.
It won't be clear that we're doing the right thing, and I think it means two things.
The false flag question.
The old false flag will not be repeated.
I don't see just a repetition of the old false flag, because the targets are no longer Bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan.
That's over with.
What is the target now is Russia, Moscow, and it's somehow got to be a false flag that will get you A strike against an enemy of today.
Don't you think that they would use that same boogeyman, you know, bring out the General Mahmoud Ahmed connection, the ISI connection, the fact that bin Laden lived there to spook the American public?
I mean, you don't think they'll use that card again just to try to take with them the already, you know, somewhat conservative base that still believes in this war on terror?
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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So cool to be able to go up to Willie Nelson's house, interview him and Jesse Ventura, you know, having conversations about what's going on in the world today.
Right now we're discussing the election, the bailout with Webster Tarpley.
Webster, maybe you can explain this to me a little bit better, how this bailout is able We're good to
go. Why do you think that this conflict with Russia has to happen?
Do you feel that Russia is unhappy with their place in the world?
Do you feel like they don't feel like they're going to have, you know, first world status in this new global order?
Who will have imperialist world domination for the next hundred years?
And what we have now is an unprecedented crisis of Anglo-American imperialism.
In other words, U.S.-British world domination has never been more threatened than right now because of pure bankruptcy, because of this $1.5 quadrillion dollar derivatives bubble, which is now destroying the banking systems of London and New York.
And these are the epicenters of the crisis.
The normal response of Europe under these circumstances would be Break off from the US and the British and do East-West trade energy deals with Russia and Eurasia and save themselves at the same time that the rest of the world runs as fast as they can from London and New York.
So, the Brzezinski calculation is something like this.
If you can smash Russia and China, above all, if you can get an endgame where you get Russia and China at war with each other in World War III, this is the ultimate goal for somebody like Brzezinski, a geopolitician, then the U.S.
and the British can rule the world for another hundred years.
But if they don't do this, the U.S.-British Empire is simply doomed.
So they're interested in doing this.
Now, from that we get the bailout.
Now, remember, if you go back to Nazi Germany, a lot of the fascist economic infrastructure was indeed installed before Hitler's seizure of power.
This was done by a guy called Schacht, S-C-H-A-C-H-T, Jalmar Schacht, who was the head of the central bank, and then he became Hitler's finance minister.
But the problem is you've also got to have a political structure that goes with it.
So here we have already the fascist corporate state, and again, that means the state-sponsored compulsory cartel for the purpose of crushing wages, driving down production, right, destroying industrial capacity, but shoring up the derivatives bubble, purely fictitious, bloated,
What we've seen so far is the situation where Bush taps your phone, the National Security Agency taps your phone violating the FISA law, or some FBI agents come to your house and harass you.
Fascism is when a mob of hooligans and goons and students and fanatics Come to your home, burn it out, you know, lynch you, rape your wife, and destroy everything that you've ever put together.
Look, it's also the idea of an extra-legal goon squad that operates with the tolerance of the police.
I mean, Mussolini's march on Rome in October 1922, militarily, was a joke.
There was no way they could seize control of Rome.
The army was told, uh, don't do anything.
The police were told, fine, let them in.
This is what we need.
The ruling class wants this to be the next government.
You've got this case up in Burlington, Vermont.
A guy goes up to a book table of middle-aged ladies tabling for Obama, asks a very interesting question.
What's the relation of Obama to Brzezinski?
The middle-aged, charming ladies call the cops.
The guy's thrown to the ground.
Threatened with a taser.
Kept in jail for 36 hours.
He's now got a court date.
In Missouri, you've got prosecutors and sheriffs who are saying, if you lie about Obama, we're going to come after you with criminal charges.
Anybody who's got a Federal Communications Commission license knows that they will be in big trouble if we get the Obama-Pelosi-Reid regime.
Larry Sinclair goes to the National Press Club in June, gives his charges against Obama, which you can see at his website, and then he's arrested.
With a hoped-up warrant by Beau Biden, the son of Joe Biden, the current Democratic vice presidential candidate.
So you're getting an unmistakable pattern of goon squad activities, where it's an illegal or extra-legal goon squad.
Another one, if Bush taps your phone under FISA, the left liberals, of course, will scream.
But you can go and you can hack into Palin's email, if you're a young fascist from Tennessee, and you put that up on the Gawker Thank you.
about the left liberals is normally they would be concerned about police state measures but the genius of fascism is that it allows the fascist uh...
mass movement to present itself under left cover and that's that's really the key thing uh...
obama has that right obama's got some left cover mccain of course has none so when it comes to strike breaking when it comes to imposing austerity obama's more effective mccain will say We've got to fight the war on terror and people will say, get lost, go home, we're sick of this tissue of lies.
Obama will say, I'm doing it for the polar bears, for global warming, I'm doing it for the third world solidarity, for people starving in Africa.
sure i don't know what sir and i was just a pretty interesting you know you can put together some people of these are with the right wingers right who are at least doing something they put together a You know, he stammers, he stutters, he hems, he haws, he gurgles, he gargles.
You know, you know, you know.
Whenever he's in deep water, you can hear him searching for the words.
I think, in terms of being a spontaneous speaker without the glass plate or the teleprompter, he's one of the worst we've seen in recent years.
It's a complete media facade of lies and distortions and above all, hero worship.
This is the other thing for people to understand.
If you want to know who Wall Street's candidate is, turn on any television network for the evening news.
You will know within 10 minutes.
Wall Street demands Obama.
If you don't want Obama, there's something wrong with you.
This is one of the memes spread by the Obama campaign.
As a matter of fact, this is actually a turning point in the intelligence picture.
If you're listening to the news reports today, we've got these two pathetic patsies, two mythomaniacs, two white supremacist skinheads, one from Tennessee, one from Arkansas, and they had a plan.
They're going to rob a gun shop, go to a black high school, kill Determine numbers of people, cut the heads off some of them, jump back in the car, rob another gun shop, get white tuxedos, and then attack Obama with rifles from afar.
It's absolutely ridiculous!
This is in the same league with the Fort Dix Six, right?
The six who wanted, supposedly, to barge into It's a necessity because this is a meme of the Obama myth.
And one of the things the Kool-Aid cultists and lemming legions of Obama need to be told periodically That there are dark forces conspiring against their man, because otherwise it might begin to dawn on him that he is the candidate of Goldman Sachs.
Look, you have this guy, Kramer, who goes on CNBC in the afternoons.
Kramer speaks for the trading desk at Goldman Sachs.
Now, Goldman Sachs money is flowing to Obama at about 3 to 1 to 4 to 1. So for every dollar that McCain gets bundled for him from Goldman Sachs, Obama gets 3, 4, and maybe more.
The government, right now, this is not, again, it's not a Bush-Cheney government anymore.
If you look at this, Barack Paulson runs the government.
Paulson is the economic dictator of the US.
Gates is so powerful that he's gonna stay on into Obama, and he's a Brzezinski boy from the Carter administration, 77 to 79. Yeah, well, I gotta ask you.
He didn't want North Korea taken off the terror list.
And he fought a big battle.
Condoleezza Rice walked all over him.
You've got Biden going to the Israelis and saying to them, Dear Israelis, there's going to be a nuclear-armed Iran, and you are going to do nothing about it, and you are going to like it.
Mullen goes to the Israelis and says, Don't you dare do anything vis-à-vis Iran.
We have our policy, and you will damn well do what you're told.
So this entire world, see, the world of Bush, Cheney, and the neocons is gone.
Finished. Kaput.
They're washed up.
If you're looking for covert operations, Obama is the covert operation.
It is a post-modern coup.
It's based on the Orange Revolution in Kiev, the Roses Revolution in Tiflis, Georgia, these other things that were going on during the Bush-Cheney years, the National Endowment for Democracy, the left wing of the CIA, the foundations, the Soros, Brzezinski, Human Rights, International Crisis Group, left-cover world.
If you saw You're focused on the top-down stuff.
Do you think the police state is coming from some building in Washington, D.C.?
It's wrong.
It's coming from a gutter near you with Obama fanatics coming up out of the sewer and coming after you with the connivance of the police and intelligence.
I mean, do you think he's going to use more of the bureaucracies, maybe Homeland Security or something like that, to bring these into existence to indoctrinate youth?
I mean, that'll take some time, don't you think, Webster?
He's got a Homeland Security Corps, a Green Corps.
That's great.
If they decide that you're a polluter, they'll come and burn you out and lynch you or do something like this.
The whole logic of Obama is stuff like, uh, you know, Mussolini had this youth movement called Baligula, this kind of stuff.
Nobody knows these things in the U.S. anymore.
That's one of the problems, is that, you know, fascism, the early phase of fascism is now 75 to 90 years behind us, so there's basically nobody left who remembers it, and the people who purport to write about fascism don't tell you, but the idea of having, you know, mass organizations of the government, uh, From somebody who comes into power with a movement of fanatics.
That's fascism.
That's Mussolini.
And it's not the conservative, reactionary kind of stuff with Bush.
For example, one of the criticisms that Obama has of Bush is he attacks him from the right.
He says, Bush, after 9-11 you should have decreed crushing austerity.
You could have cut the living standard by a third or a half and given that money to Wall Street.
Under the cover of the War on Terror.
You didn't do that, Bush.
That's what we're going to do.
And he does it with left cover.
Not Bin Laden, not Al-Qaeda, but again, the polar bears, global warming.
Iran is on the table, but as a kamikaze puppet to be thrown against Russia in the same way that Georgia has been thrown against Russia.
There is a plan, and this is pure Brzezinski.
Brzezinski would say, look, I installed this government.
The mullahs were installed by Brzezinski.
I read about this at some length in Obama, The Postmodern Coup, The Making of a Manchurian Candidate that you can get from the Alex Jones Infowars stores.
I've also got Obama, The Unauthorized Biography.
Both of these reflect the fact that the overthrow of the Shah and the bringing in of Khomeini was a Carter-Brzezinski Project against the Soviets.
Remember, Brzezinski's world is determined by a fanatical hatred of Russia.
And in this void of ideas, and you could see it, this was, you could see this in public, the main public opponent of the neocons, in terms of an alternative imperialist strategy, has been Brzezinski since 2006.
2007, right?
And he even tried to stop them from attacking Iran.
Because he says, why do you want to attack Iran?
I have plans for Iran.
I can turn the Iranians against the Russians.
And look what I can accomplish.
Other possibilities, right?
You've got Poland and Ukraine.
This is Brzezinski country, par excellence.
Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, these places.
What they'd like to do this winter is to have a crisis where Poland and Ukraine could Cut off the flow of natural gas from Russia into Western Europe, so you get a hysteria in Western Europe.
People who are cold and sitting in the dark and can't cook their food.
And start blaming Russia.
So you play Europe, and above all, play these unstable dictatorships of Eastern Europe that are NATO, IMF puppet states.
Play them against Russia and try to get rid of both of them that way.
Let's take your calls on all these matters with Webster Tarpley in the next segment.
Hopefully we'll hold them over past the hour.
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I believe we show that evidence in Loose Change 2nd Edition.
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That's all available for free online.
And you really just have to look around for it.
I mean, obviously, that's compelling evidence.
I think that Stephen Jones is on the right track with some kind of a thermite, thermate basis to cut those beams in the manner that they were.
Thanks for the call, Eric.
Let's jump to Rick in South Carolina.
Rick, what's on your mind?
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Hi Jason, always good to hear you on the show.
Thank you.
And Wester Tarpley is an incredible intellect.
I want to jump back a little bit to the beginning of the show when you mentioned Dean Barkley and Cindy Sheehan, and we certainly want to get behind them and help them, but also I wanted to throw somebody else's name out, because what if we could get rid of Lindsey Graham?
And we're getting very close to it.
There's a guy running neck and neck with them.
Lindsey Graham has $4 million.
You run lots of ads.
This guy has done it on a shoestring with $100,000 so far.
What do you think about that, Webster, and I thank you for the call, Rick, that maybe, you know, even if we can't get our candidates elected, if we get a substantial amount of people voting third party, just third party, you know, Nader, McKinney, Baldwin, Barr, that that does show the establishment that there is a large number of us.
I think people should look at a vote as a strategic asset.
In other words, it's not a sacrament.
You're not marrying anybody.
You could get into strategic voting.
Again, I think a lot of people listening to this are actually opinion leaders who should be able to move 10, 20, 50, 100 votes, not just their one wretched, miserable, tormented little vote at the end of all this, right?
Use your influence to move the masses.
My points would be three.
First of all, you want to stop Obama at all costs.
That's the absolute imperative.
No Obama.
The second one?
You've got to punish people who voted for the bailout.
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
If you don't stop Obama, you're going off a cliff.
You're leaping into an abyss.
And most people have very little idea of what fascism was and what this is going to look like.
Again, re-read that thing from Biden.
Tremendous, crushing, brutal economic austerity within the first 12 months, and an international confrontation, probably with false flag or some form of aggression in the first six months.
Secondly, anybody who voted for the bailout has to be punished.
You gotta vote against any elected official who supported that bailout.
Obama, of course, was the one who organized the whole Black Caucus with a conference call to switch their votes into it.
McCain, I think, vacillated because there were a lot of Republicans Who were against it.
You remember in the House it was stopped for the first time around with quite a few Republican votes.
The third one, you gotta come out of this with gridlock.
No one-party state.
We do not want the presidency, the Senate, and the House of Representatives in the hands of the same people.
The monstrosities of the Bush era are largely in the period of one-party Republican rule, which is from about January of 2003 To about January of 2007.
That's the Republican one-party state, and that's what gets you the Iraq War and a lot of other things going with it.
As far as these third parties go, Cynthia McKinney, Rosa Clemente is somebody that I've known from broadcasting in New York City.
She needs to develop a much more aggressive critique of Obama.
She could be very, very effective.
Nader has probably attacked Obama more Then others on the idea that Obama betrays the black community, doesn't care about them, uses them.
Bob Barr's running mate, Wayne Root, is somebody who graduated from Columbia in 1983, and points out that he was in the same year and the same department as Obama at Columbia College, and nobody ever heard of Obama.
There's no sign that Obama ever attended Columbia during those years.
This is the big mystery.
I think that's when he was recruited by By Brzezinski.
So, if you're in a state where it's clear that it's going to go one way or another, if you're in a state like, you know, I guess Texas is pretty much, you know, a lost cause for Obama, then you can think about trying to make a statement with these third-party votes.
You've got to do what's congenial for you, and some people, obviously, you know, are going to want to support them, and maybe out of that, some of these third-party Yeah, I mean, obviously.
No, but this is a very, very close election, and I do believe that any place where you have blue-collar workers, the group that's undercounted are the Puma Democrats, the Reagan Democrats, the Hillary Clinton Democrats.
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You know, one person from the 9-11 truth movement who has, I think, completely understood the profound change, the phase change that we've gone through, is Phil Berg.
And Phil Berg, I believe, will be at the Supreme Court here in Washington, the United States Supreme Court.
Attempting to argue his case, which has been defeated.
It's a direct interlocutory appeal to the Supremes that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.
That he was, in effect, born in Kenya and naturalized as a citizen of Indonesia, making him an illegal alien.
And people who are concerned about illegal aliens better start with this one, or it's going to be a lost cause any other way.
Bloomberg is waging a valiant struggle, and I urge people to support him.
He's got a website called Obama Crimes, and you can go there and give him a contribution, encourage him.
He's gotten tremendous media impact.
He's got 70 to 80 million hits on this website in about two months.
And this is an example of somebody who learned the lesson of 9-11, which is covert operations by the intelligence agencies designed to manipulate public opinion are bad.
Whether they're left cover, like Obama, or the right-wing racist war on terror stuff from 9-11.
No, I think there are a lot of things that are held over Obama's head for control.
In other words, the whole Resco complex, the whole Sewer and cesspool of corruption with Tony Resco, Nadhimi Ouchi, Al Samari, these characters from, well, from Chicago, but also from the Eastern Mediterranean.
They're all Levantine Arabs.
Obama's got these three convicted felons that are his godfathers.
I'm sure that the feds could indict Obama at any time, but they're holding that over his head.
If people are interested in Obama, the unauthorized biography, I do that in comparison to Harry S. Truman, who was controlled, among other things, in the same way.
With Truman, it was the Pendergast machine in Missouri that he came out of.
Truman could have been indicted at any point that the bankers decided that he wasn't obeying them.
And Obama will be the same story.
I'd rather think that the hope of the ruling elite is to keep the citizenship issue as yet another means to beat him over the head if he starts getting rambunctious in office.
I just wanted to talk about, you know, Michelle Obama, when she gave that big speech where she was wearing that teal shirt of some type, right smack in the middle of her shirt was a sun symbol.
Sure enough, today on the Drudge Report, there's a picture of her from yesterday on Jay Leno, or maybe a few days ago, and sure enough, she's got a sun symbol right on her shirt.
Let me say this before we get into hypnosis and things like that.
Orate and speak a certain way.
They move their hands.
There's a guy out in the UK that does a show.
It's not David Blaine-esque stuff.
His name is Darren Brown.
It's more how the mind works, how you're able to plant certain words.
So, you know, certain part of the brain activate to move a certain manner.
And these people are especially, you know, agents that are recruited by intelligence organizations like the CIA and the NSA.
When they're going to be speakers, they're taught these techniques That are there to basically corral people, to convince them, to persuade them to do things.
Yes. In particular, though, there's also the emotional need.
In other words, when somebody joins what amounts to a fascist mass movement or a neo-fascist mass movement of the Obama type, they're doing this for the satisfaction of immediate emotional needs.
In effect, they want to be duped.
Part of it is the hatred for Bush, Cheney, and the neocons.
Which I can understand, which in some ways I share, has blinded people, and that's where you have to part company.
They've lost all criteria of judgment, as long as you're something other than Bush-Cheney.
There's also this question of alienation.
The previous caller mentioned Michelle Obama.
The centerpiece of Michelle Obama's speeches during the primaries was this stuff about our souls are broken.
We all have broken souls.
We need the healing touch of the beatific Uh, personality, the one, the Messiah, the Mahdi, uh, Barack Obama.
Uh, there's a passage in Mein Kampf by Hitler where he talks about the fact that if you're a worker and you're in your factory, you're living an alienated life where nothing really belongs to you emotionally.
But if you go to a national socialist rally, then you feel fulfilled nationally, racially, and in all these other ways.
And there's a very similar dynamic in these Obama mass meetings, right?
The fact that he He prefers stadiums.
He prefers large crowds.
Again, read Mein Kampf.
Hitler says, the bigger the crowd, the more easy it is to control.
The more people that are there, the more you can brainwash them, and the more undifferentiated.
In other words, what you want is the massy mass.
Not people who are there as consumers, or workers, or housewives, but just the mass.
And when you've got the mass, especially at night, he says, at night is better because people are more irrational, then you can get them in the palm of your hand, and you're not convincing them with arguments, you're convincing them with an emotional experience which is irrefutable.
Yeah, but it's dangerous when you get a mass movement of this sort under depression conditions, after all the tremendous damage done to the society by Bush and Cheney, Yeah.
It simply doesn't work.
But right now, the main thing is to stop Obama so that you have at least a breathing space to try to get some kind of an alternative together, which you don't have right now.
The problem with Darwin and the problem with Malthus and anybody who follows them is that it assumes that the universe is entirely random and that it's a matter of indifference whether there's development or higher energy states or whether there's not.
So, therefore, Darwin has to assume that all the progress in evolution, which undoubtedly is there, there's no doubt about evolution and the progress towards Thank you.
this is the blind watchmaker this is all a matter of just chance interaction and it could happen or it could not happen no it's wrong the darwinian malthusian universe is not the universe that you see the universe that you see is a gott free bill um...
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webster i respect uh...
your research and your uh...
the books And I agree with you that we want no Obama, punish those who voted for the bailout, and no to fascism.
But I think the suggestion that by voting for McCain is going to be anything but Obama is just falling into the false left-right dialectic of paradigm, left-right paradigm, that both candidates are puppets of the New World Order.
Chuck Baldwin, whether he gets in or gets not, at least you're voting for something that's not going to be more of the same, where there is no Obama is going to be defeated and that's going to be a difference.
They're going to be the same.
The idea that the big deal, that the New Deal worked as an answer to the economic problem of the past, I think is a fallacy.
If we just simply end the Fed and stop paying interest for use of our own money, that that would be an answer.
And I think there's a book Dan Hopsicker wrote that had a, called Barry and the Boys, the CIA, the Mob, and America's Secret History.
It had a picture on the photo, on the cover, of Barry Thiel, CIA drug pilot, that they were, it was in Mexico prior to the JFK assassination.
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Your point, sir, is that this thing continues, that this leviathan has been around for, you know, 30 or 40 years at least, at least this wonton of the Bush regime and this shadow government continuity of government program, and you don't think it's going to end, right?
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Yeah, to say no Obama, anything Obama, as if that is any sort of an answer, misses the point of all this research.
A lot of this is people looking for reasons not to mobilize, essentially to do nothing, and to say, well, I'll just vote for this one third-party candidate and leave it at that.
That's really choosing, I think, a very facile way out of it.
I really appreciate it, but I think my approach would be that we have to show the overlap between these neocon fascists of the Bush-Cheney group, the McCain group, and the Obama, because I think if I'm going to vote for somebody, it's going to be From a genuine left, a WSWS.org or a WorkersOrg type of real left point of view.
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The fake left has been the favorite of the CIA all the way back to the Vietnam War, where they preferred to have a fake liberal cover on right-wing propaganda, anti-communist, pro-Vietnam War propaganda.
What I'd like to say, though, is I think we can show the overlap I gotta let you go, John.
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well specifically this year they're voting against well specifically you were talking about uh...
you're trying to allude to They went too far with 9-11, but in your own words, because it has backfired with 84% in major polls believing they're being lied to about it.
In some polls, about 60% believing it's an inside job.
In polls five years ago, 36% saying inside job.
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Wait a minute, Alex.
I've got to interject.
Where are all these people?
I'm running into the opposite.
Nobody wants, everyone I run into does not believe.
Jesse, you're asking me a question, let me tell you.
Angus and Reed poll, Wall Street Journal poll, 84% believe they've been lied to about the official story.
I could show you hundreds of polls.
All I know is I've done several thousand radio interviews.
Well, I had a lot of people that agreed with me, and I had a lot of people that didn't.
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I'd go on shows like Amy Goodman, and she wanted to hear my views, and her and a lot of her listeners agreed that there is something there, there is things to be answered, there are questions.
I was at a football, I was at the Gopher game watching it yesterday with some friends that I've known since I was in 5th grade.
And a few of them there when they asked me what I was doing now, and I said I was investigating 9-11 They said, you're not one of them crazies that thinks that there was da-da-da-da-da-da to it.
There's a certain percentage of people who will not believe that their government will do anything.
Exactly. You have to admit that there are that certain percentage.
And they're bigger than you think.
But they will not believe that their government is capable of doing what we say it may or may not have happened.
That our country, the great country that they all served and went through World War II and all of this, they will, they refuse to believe that our country could be evil.
Well, that's what I was going to say, is that there is over 30% of the public still believes that WMDs were found, and around 30% of the public believes Saddam Hussein carried out 9-11.
Exactly. I wanted to get you to talk about Kennedy.
Give us your view on that.
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I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened at 9-11.
I do know that a lot of investigations went on Kennedy that were stifled, just like what you're doing now.
They tried to hold that back.
And, you know, we know he was killed.
We don't know who done it.
The other argument of 9-11, We know those buildings fell down.
A lot of people think it was done this way.
We think it was blown up intentionally.
So we're never going to be able to convince everybody and we're never going to really know for sure.
No. And Willie's exactly right because the simple way they get to that is by the removal of all evidence.
All evidence is gone.
Like when John Kennedy was assassinated, the first thing Lyndon Johnson did was he set the limousine was where a homicide took place.
There should have been the yellow tape around that limo.
That limo shouldn't have been touched until investigators went through it with a fine-tooth comb.
Instead, LBJ orders it sent to Cincinnati.
It's cleaned and refurbished.
Not one person got to look at the actual crime scene, which is backwards to what normally is done.
That's what causes, for me, the light to go on, because when they start doing a crime scene the exact opposite of the way it's supposed to be, That's right.
it. The priority went to the removal.
The investigators were considered Well, they kept them out.
Hold off, Alex.
Black boxes.
That's the exact opposite of the way it should be.
The investigation should always take priority.
And even if they use the excuse, well, we were searching for bodies, there could have been alive people in there, which you can accept, it still doesn't relieve them.
They could have removed that metal and put it somewhere to where later...
And that's what we all assumed they were doing.
They were doing, but it turned out they weren't doing that.
They were destroying it all.
They were building a new ship out of it as a monument.
They were selling it to China and melting it down and doing everything.
And so it's come down to today, and Willie's exactly correct.
We will never know, because here's the reason.
Now we're all experts.
Because with no evidence, with no concrete scientific evidence to go to, all of our opinions are valid.
Whether they be for or against, because there's no way to disprove them.
But isn't it the same thing that happened at the Pentagon?
The very same thing happened.
They came in, they cleaned up everything, they took all the video cameras away, and they dared anybody to say anything.
Yeah, and so now there's no way to prove or disprove anything.
What's your take on how they blocked the funding for the firefighters and First of all,
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Talk about what we don't like about this government and what it's doing and what it hasn't done.
And it goes backwards.
Further than the Bush administration, it goes all the way back to other administrations a long time ago when this country started going the wrong way and started doing things around the world thinking that we were the world's policemen and if also we were the world's resource gatherer, if there was something over there you had, we're gonna come get it.
We'll make you a deal you can't turn down.
So, that's been going on as long as I can remember, as long as I've been watching our government operate.
So, this is just one more time, I think, that they're stepped over the line doing things that they...
As far as I'm concerned, that's not what I hired them for.
they work for me, they work for you, they work for Jesse, and they're screwing up.
I just, I believe some of them will go back to sleep because someone didn't want to get woke up.
But there are a group of intelligent young people out there Not very many of my age or your age.
Most of the people my age or your age think just exactly like what you said.
Things are the way they are.
Don't mess with them.
Go do your job, keep your head down, you know, don't stir up anything.
But there's some young people out there with a lot of guts, a lot of balls.
They're going to stir it up.
And they're going to elect Obama.
They're going to elect some government officials.
They're going to elect some senators and congressmen who will go in there and start doing the right thing for a while.
And then you're right.
In a little while, everybody will go back to sleep.
And the guys will say, all right, we're going to let them have it for four to eight years because look how we screwed it up.
Let's back out out of the way and let them have our problems that we created for a while.
And we'll go over here and we'll reorganize and we'll think it over and we'll raise some more money and we'll go get it again.
I agree fully because let's go.
Alex, we talked about history and how if you don't study history, the old cliche, you're deemed to repeat it.
Well, look at my generation and Willie's.
We're the generation of the 60s.
We were supposed to be the rebels.
We were supposed to be the ones who were anti-establishment.
The ones who learned from Vietnam.
The ones that saw all this stuff go down.
And yet, what has happened to all of us?
Where did we all go?
I was so proud of the peaceniks.
I was so proud of the guys who got out there and fought against the war and come home from Vietnam and say, hey, that's wrong.
But they went back to sleep.
That's right.
What happened to peace on Earth?
I remember growing up that that was what we were all taught was going to happen one day.
I go to church and they say, well, you've got the Prince of Peace, Jesus, he's going to come and there's going to be peace on Earth for a thousand years.
I said, I can't wait.
Where is it?
But that's essentially the problem.
We do it, and hopefully something will change.
But the problem is this.
Everybody lives in their own little world, and if their own little world is not affected directly, they will ignore it.
But right now, with the economy sinking, their world is affected.
I agree.
And gasoline, they are affected.
They're going to have to start growing their own vegetables again.
That's great.
I'm glad to see them having to get out and dig in that soil and plant a seed and sit back and watch it grow.
But that's America.
Where they've been is not America.
Living on, you know, eight or ten houses and six yachts and going off and starting these big corporations where they screwed me and you out of money and they grew over seeds.
That's not America.
Now, I want to see one of those guys get out there and have to grow his own potatoes.
We have to stop electing Democrats and Republicans.
And we have to start electing and destroying this system they've created that is so corrupt within itself that we're a two-party dictatorship now.
Politics in America today is identical to pro-wrestling.
And what I mean by that is, in front of the cameras and the public, we all hate each other.
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We're going to have Ray McGovern, the 26-year CIA analyst, the veteran, on to talk about the current election, on to talk about his latest article where he really denounces the Washington Post, I believe, for their little editorial page.
Oh, it looks like the war with Iran is off the table with both us and Israel.
And he really goes over that, how that's not a sad thing, and he does hope it's the truth, and I doesn't understand their attitude towards it.
But in this segment, I want to read this article out of the National Post.
Now, this is a big paper out in Canada, and Jonathan Kaye, I guess, this guy who writes for them for many years, wrote something about the 9-11 truth movement, and then he had to write this.
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Want to fill up your inbox?
Write a column denouncing the 9-11 truth movement.
These are the people who dismissed the official 9-11 explanation as White House-filled lie.
One truther's sect believes the American government, or rogue elements within it, planned the September 11th attacks under a false flag.
Another concedes Al-Qaeda's involvement, but insists the plot was known to the warmongering Bush administration.
Other truthers favor more exotic explanations, featuring missiles, remote-controlled airliners, the Mossad, mini-nukes, and even space weapons.
What they all have in common, I've learned, is a hate-on for journalists who blithely dismiss them as nutbars, as I did a few weeks ago in a blog post about ex-liberal candidate and unapologetic truther, Leslie Hughes.
Normally, I confess these are the sort of correspondence I delete from my inbox without much guilt.
As with all conspiracy theorists, see this is what I don't like, debate is pointless, since they have no chance of convincing me, nor I them.
Why waste my time parsing their arguments?
But see, he admits he won't be swayed no matter what.
But something about the truth or email, I got aroused my interest.
For one thing, there was a lot of it, which perhaps should not surprise me.
As the Post's Adrienne Humphries reported last week, 39% of Canadians either reject or doubt the official explanation for the 9-11 attacks.
Major! Secondly, many of these messages, a majority in fact, were lucid and coherent, well-written even.
Some of the senders had letters after their names, and even email addresses contained the domain names of recognizable universities.
Conspiracy theorists they may be, but they're certainly not sub-human weirdos who try to convince me the Holocaust never happened, nor the anti-social paranoiacs who send me weekly updates about their decade-long litigation campaign against their ex-landlords.
So I like that too.
He at least admits, you know, we have a standing.
Thirdly, they have a point.
Something that hit home when I read this stinging comment in a message from Winnipeg area writer Dallas Hanson.
Take a look at the mound of evidence suggesting a blackout.
I'm sure you're a smart guy, but posturing as though you've got all the answers to 9-11 and defaming those who question the explanation we've been given is a little much.
September 11th wasn't a black op.
But Hansen is right, that, like mainstream journalists, I overplay my intellectual hand when it comes to 9-11 and just about everything else besides.
I could lie to Mr. Hansen and my readers and tell them I've read the U.S. government's 571-page 9-11 commission report.
Or a Popular Mechanics magazine authoritative report on debunking the 9-11 myths.
But the truth is that I haven't.
I never felt the need to, because on a purely instinctive level, I've always believed the truther's case was complete nonsense.
But he cops to it and he says he's going to read those things, while I send him an email urging him to watch Fabled Enemies and then the Loose Chain series, and I hope you help me out and do the same.
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It's really amazing.
Alex Jones just provides so much ammunition for the InfoWars, and I just want to thank him from the bottom of my heart for everything he's done for me, helping me put together Fabled Enemies, which I really do believe is an important picture, and I hope you go out there and pick it up from InfoWars.com, make copies, and hand them out.
But more importantly, today I'm not asking for a donation.
I'm not even asking for a vote.
I'm asking you to go to this NationalPost.com website, How are you doing today?
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Yeah, I wanted to speak.
I really was calling to speak to your last guest, but I want to speak on some of the points that you made from the back of Barack Obama.
First I want to talk about him saying that Ralph Nader was stepping up, saying that Barack Obama is duping the black community and things like that.
The first thing about that I want to say is that Ralph Nader doesn't speak up any time Well, when issues go on in the black community and injustice is done by people in this country, I've never heard Rob Nutter speak up.
Well, he's a bit of a gun grabber, I'll give him that.
I mean, he always talks about, you know, against automatic weapons in inner cities and stuff like that.
I'm not really for that, so.
I mean, I feel like that's a form of gun control.
It's kind of soft, but continue.
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Well, I mean, I'm not speaking black.
I'm black, so I'm going to tell you, like, I don't know if you know what will go on, but some of the things that go on, like with the Juniors 6, Sean Bale killing me, and just all kind of just...
Sure. I've never heard him speak up, and he's been on Al Sharpton's show, so it's not like he hasn't had a chance to speak on those things, but when he's on Al Sharpton's show, and that's about as much in the black community, as much as you can get, I mean, as big an opportunity as you can get to speak to the black community, he hasn't done that.
And also, when it comes to Barack Obama, you know, not caring about the black community, Guys like Professor Charles Oventree, Dick Gregory, Martin Luther King III, these are some of the most prominent people in the black community, and they're not part of the New World Order.
Matter of fact, these people are some of the most anti-New World Order people you can get if you ever listen to Dick Gregory.
Well, first of all, there's a controlled opposition, number one.
Number two, did you listen to his Berlin, Germany speech about six months ago?
Listen, man, just go check it out.
Just type in Barack Obama in Berlin, Germany.
If you can't tell that this guy has a globalist perspective on the world, I mean, he's really literally talking about a million and a half man youth brigade.
He's also talking about global citizenship.
Hold on.
And his wife and him are open CFR members.
It's a globalist organization.
He's a total globalist, man.
And look, I'm voting for a black woman for president.
You know, to me, race doesn't have that much significance.
I like her policies.
I think that Cynthia McKinney is much more of a real person, much more of a bulldog.
She's the real anti-New World Order, black candidate, and I'm gonna vote for her.
I mean, I just don't see...
I don't see this revolutionary that they're portraying on the television.
I don't see the guy that's on the Zoomies t-shirt when I go to the mall as, like, this guy that's gonna help us.
I thank you for the call.
I thank you for the opinion, man.
I gotta jump because I got Ray McGovern coming up after the break.
We're gonna take your calls in about 30 minutes.
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Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
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