Paul Craig Roberts and Bob Chapman analyze the Georgia conflict as a U.S.-orchestrated ethnic cleansing operation rather than Russian aggression, warning that missile deployments in Poland and Ukraine threaten World War III. The episode details alleged weather modification programs under Senate Bills 1807 and 3036, which callers claim serve eugenics goals and disease control via chemtrails. Promoting films like "Truth Rising" and "Fabled Enemies," the hosts argue that neoconservatives pursue a New World Order through 9-11 conspiracies and preemptive nuclear doctrines, suggesting global instability stems from deliberate government manipulation rather than natural events or foreign threats. [Automatically generated summary]
Music by Ben Thede All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back for the very first time It is Wednesday, August 27, 2008.
I am Jason Burmess, sitting in today and tomorrow for Alex Jones, and then Friday we're going to do a best of and play some clips that we did not play on the radio show from it.
Alex's adventures over at the DNC, another jam-packed day.
Yesterday, Jones got on Russia Today, which is just a huge, huge show all across the world.
He did numerous radio and TV interviews.
And he took over MSNBC for around three minutes, and we're going to be playing that later on.
But coming up right after this short break, we're going to go to Paul Craig Roberts and get his take on the Georgia-Russia situation, where it's going, if it's going to escalate, if it's going to de-escalate.
If we're going to see another Cold War-style era, I don't know what to think.
You know, obviously, Saakashvili is NATO-hungry.
He's been trying to get into NATO for quite some time.
He is a globalist.
He had the third largest amount of troops in Iraq.
Highly pro-US.
And he's a good speaker.
You know, I keep going back to this, but when I watched him, and I watched him pretty much that whole week, but the Glenn Beck interview with him really, really stood out.
And you know what?
Maybe we're going to play some of that, too.
I do want to play that.
But, he's sitting there with Glenn Beck, he's talking about how, you know, they're living in this Orwellian world, and Russia's lying, and you can't trust them, and they're for freedom and democracy, you know, classic doublespeak, even uses the term, uh, doublespeak.
And, lo and behold, all of a sudden, in the third segment, after he's been talking to Glenn Beck for, uh, you know, twenty or so minutes, he's like, you gotta understand, Russia is against all this stuff.
This is about the future of Europe.
This is about the future of the New World Order.
You know, the New World Order that does not exist.
So yeah, I'm gonna have to send that clip over to John Harmon and we're gonna play that for Paul Craig Roberts when he comes on.
And Paul Craig Roberts has really done some amazing work over at Counterpunch and other publications as of recent.
I mean, he's quite old school.
He has a huge body of work, but I've been reading his latest stuff and he's He's not really pulling any punches at all.
And thank God, because we need people to tell it like it is.
Tell the straight dope.
Because 90% of the media is still parroting that Russia is the aggressor.
Poor little old Georgia.
How dare Russia go into South Ossetia and then into Georgia.
No. They went into South Ossetia when Georgia began ethnically cleansing the citizens there after they had run some drills.
Basically, before they'd run the drills, we're moving in radar equipment, other military equipment.
Then U.S. Special Forces are there, Israeli Special Forces are there, they start running these drills.
Now, to counteract these drills, Georgia starts running drills on their border as well, kind of figuring that there will be some kind of an altercation or aggression.
And sure enough, you know, and a lot of people, we had a caller yesterday call in and say, well, how do you know that Russia isn't setting this whole thing up?
Well, a 12 year old girl from San Francisco gets on Fox News It says that she's in South Ossetia.
And all of a sudden, they're attacked by the Georgians.
They had to spend the night in her grandfather's basement.
And then the next day, the Russian troops are the ones that got her out of the country, into Russia, and onto a plane into the United States, and they cut her off!
That accompanied with Sokovsvili's little New World Order slip-up.
You know, make me about 99.999999 percent certain that Russia, in this case, is not the aggressor.
And we have Pat Buchanan!
One of the most mainline politicians out there.
One of the better Republicans, I guess.
But he's done a huge piece on Georgia being the aggressor.
It's the Alex Jones Show.
We'll be back after this with Paul Craig Roberts, Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, and PrisonPlanet.tv.
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Well, you know, it's not the fact that I was targeted.
My people has been targeted and I couldn't care less whether I was targeted.
The worst thing was that I was standing there with my people.
They were bombed and I was just targeted like them.
And as elected president, officially in charge of their protection, I couldn't do anything about it.
But the point here is, it's not about me, it's about the idea of freedom.
It's about the future of the whole region.
It's about the future of Europe and the New World Order.
And what I think is that, no matter what Russians do, I told them, and I was asking what would be my message to the Russians, and I kept it until these days.
Sack is really blatantly talking about the New World Order, the New World Order that doesn't exist, this idea of globalism, this idea of global government, and joining us now to comment Well,
There you go!
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I'm just telling the truth.
We are being led rather rapidly into a nuclear confrontation with Russia.
For no reason, no purpose other than an insane policy of the neocons for American hegemony.
And this is why I've never really thought much of the new world order because the only world order that the neocons who control American foreign policy are interested in is American hegemony, American rule.
And the United States It doesn't have the military or financial power to impose itself on the world.
We have to understand Russia is a big place, and it's heavily armed, and China is another big place, and they're our bankers.
We're totally dependent on Chinese financing of our consumption and of the daily operations of the federal government in Washington.
So you believe this could be it, that they really do want this global nuclear insanity, really, I don't know, depending on how you look at it, World War III, World War IV, just like an apocalyptic conflict, you really think this could happen?
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Yeah, I think we're very close to it.
I would give it almost total certainty if John McCain gets in office.
The neoconservatives uh...
is everyone should know by now are insane i mean remember now that uh...
the invasion of iraq which was orchestrated him on lies and deception it was supposed to be a six week war and it's now in six years uh...
the war in afghanistan What do you think about these latest proposals where they're saying that in 2012 now is going to be the complete de-escalation, but then when you read further into the policy they say that they're going to just slowly start retracting troops there, and it'll be over another three-year period.
So now we're looking publicly at being in Iraq until 2015.
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Well, I don't think that will happen.
What the Iraqis have done is to stop their...
Fighting among themselves in order to undermine the Bush regime propaganda that our troops are necessary there to prevent a bloodbath.
So, having already cleansed each other from their neighborhoods, the Sunnis and Shiites, they've decided, hey, we're stopping this.
Al-Sadr was told by the Iranians To stand down his militias and to create the absence of the kind of conflict that the Bush administration was using to justify its continued presence.
So that is the policy, and we can see that our puppet present there is less and less a puppet, more and more a spokesman for the Shiites and for Iraq, and is insisting on the time schedule withdrawal.
And so I think if we try to stay there this opposition, that the war will start over.
And this time, most of the fighting will not be the Shiites and the Sunnis killing each other, but they will both jump on us, and we will be driven out.
The only reason we weren't driven out is that we never had to deal with more than a few thousand insurgents, because Iraqis were mainly fighting each other, cleansing other of neighborhoods, and gave us very little attention.
So you think our policy of divide and conquer is eventually going to fail, and that these people are going to unify and really try to drive us out?
But, I mean, when do you think that could happen?
We just keep pushing the date back.
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No, it doesn't.
Look, we're deluded.
We said it was going to be a six-week war.
We're deluded.
We've been deluded about the war.
We're deluded about a surge.
And all that happened is what I said.
They had finished cleansing the neighborhoods.
And the Sunnis, the Sunni insurgents, were all put on the American payroll.
We have 80,000 of them now that we pay.
And so that stopped their interest in fighting.
And the Shiites are now unified with Iranian advice and backing to stop the conflict so that it deprives Bush or the Americans in general of the propaganda that if we aren't there, there'll be a bloodshed, there'll be a bloodletting and so on and so on.
So, as long as that is the situation, there's no excuse for the American troops to be there.
And therefore, if we try to stay and stay and stay, I think we'll see that the Iraqi government and the Shiites will turn against us.
And we never were faced with much opposition from the Shiites, because That's the vast majority of them.
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And they didn't really oppose us because they knew they were going to inherit the power from the Sunnis, from our presence.
And they have.
And essentially, we have ended the check on Iran that the Sunni secular government of Iraq presented.
And we've now put Iraq in the hands of the Well, where is Iran right now in this grand chess board?
I mean, obviously focus has kind of shifted away with this conflict out in Russia, but I mean, we had Cheney, it just came out with Hirsch about a month ago, saying that he was prepared to Yes, we're still trying to provoke a war
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with Iran, but now I think they're more interested in provoking Russia.
Because the Russians have rejected the attempt by the Americans and the Israelis to exercise hegemony over them in Georgia.
And they've made it quite clear that they've rejected this, and they've now recognized the two separatist provinces.
There's nothing we can do about it.
And what we will attempt to do is to proceed with putting missile bases in Poland and Czechoslovakia and Kosovo and the Ukraine.
And we will now take the efforts that were defeated by the Russians in Georgia to them into an American puppet state with missile bases on Russia's border.
And the Russians are probably not going to put up with that either.
And so what we have is a very belligerent, aggressive American toward Russia, which has thousands of nuclear weapons, and has already made it clear that they don't have the smart weapons and electronic warfare of the Americans.
We saw that in Georgia when they moved in those two SS-21s.
Those are nuclear-capable missiles.
So the American government, with its insane policy that somehow it has to have a hedge enemy over Russia and boss Russia around, is Borrowing a course of action is going to provoke a nuclear confrontation with Russia.
And there's no reason for it.
It's pointless.
It's an insane thing.
It's like the old conquerors of, you know, a thousand years ago.
How do you think the globe is going to slice up, though, and who will be whose ally?
I mean, I'd obviously think that in Europe, allies, you know, Britain's obviously going to be our ally, but I could see maybe France and Germany not siding with us.
I mean, what do you think?
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Well, obviously Russia and China will be allies, and that neutralizes us right there.
The question then is, what will Japan do?
Will it eventually desert us, remembering that they were nuked?
And here we are threatening more nuclear devastation somewhere else.
In Europe, the leaders are bought.
We buy them.
Whoever they elect, we make them rich so that they do what we want.
They always desert their own people.
They betray their own people because they get money from us.
So they are likely, unless they, The fear of war with Russia breaks that, which it could do.
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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I'm Jason Bermas subbing in until Thursday and then Friday we're going to do a Best of the Week.
Alex down at the DNC is going to be joining us shortly and we have no shortage of news clips of Alex Jones.
We're going to be playing After Paul Craig Roberts leaves us, we have actually Alex on Russia Today, yesterday.
We have Michelle Malkin, basically on Fox News, ripping into Alex, the 9-11 Truth Movement, and others.
And Alex is probably going to be on Inside Edition today.
You know, he's been non-stop over at the DNC.
You can watch live video streams over at Infowars.com right now.
But we're talking to Paul Craig Roberts, and we're talking about this global conflict with Russia.
And how the rest of the world is going to decide, you know, if this does become, quote-unquote, World War III, World War IV, whichever one you want.
You know, it's so hard to go over these things, predict these things, but...
Well, I mean, obviously the outcome is going to be the end of American dominance, don't you think?
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Yes, and the end of life on Earth.
You have to take this seriously.
This is a far more serious situation than anything.
That we ever faced with the Soviet Union.
Because there was mutual assured destruction.
Neither side had any world dominant claims.
And they were sitting there as checks on one another.
What we have now is the United States with a world dominant claim.
And a war doctrine that supports that claim.
The Bush administration has already altered American war doctrine, enshrining preemptive nuclear attack.
They have broken the agreement Reagan had with Gorbachev and are building anti-missile defense systems and are installing these on Russia's borders in an effort to negate the Soviet nuclear deterrence so that we can bully them and make them No.
what we want.
Now, Russia will not stand still for this.
This is moving very rapidly.
This isn't something that's going to happen in the next 50 years.
It's going to happen in the next two or three years.
It's moving very rapidly toward a confrontation.
Now, the idiots in Washington thought they were going to get away with ethnically cleansing Russians out of those two Georgian provinces.
actually thought that Russia would simply let this happen, and they didn't.
They stopped it.
And now...
And what was the American response?
It very quickly gave more money to the Polish morons and got the agreement that the Poles wouldn't give them to put missile bases in Poland.
Russia has announced that, well, that may mean the end of Poland.
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Today the headline is, Russia warns of military response to US missiles.
Russia, angry with the U.S., takes up the Afghan attack at the U.N., you know, where we've murdered another 60 Afghan kids and 30 Afghan women, claiming they were Taliban.
And now it's all been proved that we did do that.
And the Russians now want us condemned.
So they've become aggressive in response to our aggression.
The neocons are the kinds of people who say, what was Billy Crystal's statement, didn't he?
Isn't he the one who said, what's the use of having nuclear weapons if you can't use them?
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So many things going on in the world.
Mothers crying How much old this one human life was What happened to peace on earth No kidding, what happened to peace on earth?
Folks, if you missed that interview with Paul Craig Roberts in the last two segments, that's a reason to hit the rebroadcast at Infowars.com after the fourth hour right there.
There's 10-minute clips, 8-minute clips, 3-minute clips, different versions of it, where we chatted at InfoWars.com and Chris Matthews was live with a bullhorn and about 100 9-11 truthers at point-blank range.
We had him threatened to arrest us again, but we were on the city sidewalk right up against it, so they couldn't.
That happened.
We got two more days of major reportage here for you, ladies and gentlemen.
The Malkin thing has just exploded.
She went on Fox News and attacked me.
Talk radio and blogs are misrepresenting everywhere that I said killer, but we have a major investigative breakthrough.
Inside, or is it extra, is about to show up here at the condo we're staying at.
We'll see if it's a hit piece or not.
We have a major investigative breakthrough.
Now, with local newspaper photos we've seen, and the video that we've found, we now know that there were several people with Malcolm.
The big bodyguard, another guy with a mustache who was a photographer, and then some frat boy bloggers who were with them, who were talking to them, who were getting what looked like orders from them.
They would come over and pose behind me and say that they were with me.
And then some of them and some others start screaming, kill Michelle Malkin, kill Michelle Malkin, kill Michelle Malkin, and then they start saying, why are you saying kill Michelle Malkin over and over again in just a massive, massive setup here.
And then, we caught the same guy following us yesterday on the street.
And we said, hey, that's the guy.
And this was all streamed live on the web, so everybody saw it.
It's posted at InfoWars.com.
He ran off.
The incredible thing about this is we now have footage of them saying, kill, kill, kill.
We now have the footage of them then going to the police and saying, Alex Jones says he wants to kill Michelle Malkin, kill Michelle Malkin.
So we have the type of dirty tricks they play on video for everybody.
And this is a big test to see whether we can expose what they've done, whether we can, you know, basically show the world what's really happening here, or will they have another propaganda victory.
It's kind of like a German talus.
Gary Talus was out there peacefully and got beat up, and then the Fox News said he beat up somebody in a wheelchair.
Well, we didn't have any footage, so we couldn't defeat that lie.
This time, we have the footage, and I have IM to Curt Nemo, local newspaper photos that show exactly what we talked about.
We also have the video ourselves.
We're just so busy.
We haven't had time to dump from our hard cameras.
All we have was the feed live.
And, you know, that's a limited perspective.
But from our other two cameras, you really get a clear picture of all these guys together, all of them working in unison to, in their words, punk me.
You know, to set me up.
And this is just absolutely unprecedented here.
It's not just about Alex Jones or Fox News or Michelle Malkin.
This is about disinformation and how these people operate and the types of pricks that they traffic in.
Uh, but, um, just unbelievable.
Unbelievable to see this happening, but I really think that the...
And meanwhile we had the NBC security saying, or NBC security, stop that or we're going to have you arrested.
And they went and told the police to arrest us.
And they moved in around us but did not arrest us.
So a lot more restraint than what we've seen in New York City and in Ottawa and other areas around the world.
But I'm just so excited when I call in the show because I'm in here.
In the condo with the guys, and I'm watching them for the first time review the live, you know, crisp, high-definition video.
It is unbelievable how we caught these people in an elaborate setup.
And it turns out a day before, Malkin was in another confrontation with people, and their folks tried the same deal.
So, you come up to Michelle Malkin, and you say, how dare you write books about putting Americans in camps?
How dare you be for torture?
How dare you say Alex Jones is a liar about the Marines killing the puppy?
You come up to her, For any reason, they will have people start shouting out, kill Michelle Malkin, kill Michelle Malkin, and then that albatross will be hung around your neck.
They're trying to diffuse the situation of truth being spread among the people.
It's the same thing as, you know, the people that are getting the media attention are dressed up like Mickey Mouse from Fantasia.
It's to discredit dissent.
It's to make the protesters look like fools.
For instance, I don't know if you've seen the clip yet, Of the two Fox News reporters in the middle of about, I don't know, 30 or 40 protesters, and they're physically getting attacked.
Then, once it's proven that I didn't say kill Michelle Malkin, I was on John Gibson's radio show yesterday.
Malkin was on before me.
And he says, well, so what if they were with her?
You influenced them.
You mind-controlled her people to say kill Malkin.
So he's saying it isn't a setup.
He's saying I mind-controlled them.
Uh, like the Emperor from Star Wars to start screaming, kill Michelle Malkin.
So, so they've been caught red-handed, so then they fall back on.
Well, you were yelling and screaming at her only after her bodyguard bumped into me, pushed on me, and I did push him back.
They love to clip that out and just put that on the web.
We've got all this on tape.
Everybody trying to discredit us, you're going to be discredited.
We have all the proof.
Listen, I want you to move the chemtrail lady back 30 minutes.
I want you to cover it for the rest of this hour and 30 minutes of the next hour, playing the, or select clips, of the MSNBC Hardball Chris Matthews playing the Michelle Malkin Fox News clips.
We've got a bunch of other TV networks calling us.
But it looks like these are hit pieces.
It looks like that we are really Really under attack here.
They've been waiting for their chance to go after me in the national media.
And it looks like this is their attack pattern right now, folks, but I think it's going to blow up in their face because of the new information.
But I need Curt Nemo, I need Paul Watson, I need Steve Watson, I need you full-time blogging after the show to analyze every facet and create a master, you know, set Alex Jones and 9-11 Truth up page so that people can see all the intel, all the data together.
And more and more of this is going to be coming out.
More and more information.
I mean, this is damning, Jason.
We have them shutting me up, shutting 9-11 Truth up, saying we said, kill, kill, kill, when their people were doing it.
This is big.
I mean, we have them.
And then we have the national media engaged in a hoax against myself and the 9-11 Truth movement.
But we're not going to stop.
We're going to go blow horn other live TV events today.
We're going to go cover Rage Against the Machine in the next two hours, down at the Park Civic Center.
We are going to be doing other live radio interviews.
We are going to be throwing it into absolute high gear here in Omaha City with continual coverage at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
We'll also be going live again later today and this evening on our JustinTV channel that's linked up on InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
We are on the front lines of the InfoWar, ladies and gentlemen.
All right, thank you very much, Alex, and God bless.
All right, let's cue up that Malkin clip right now.
And play that before we go out in the next segment.
And then we're going to push Rosalind Peterson back to 1230 so we can cover more of this.
I'll say this, I'll take callers for Rosalind Peterson, so if you're going to call on topic, because she was a huge guest, and we're only going to be able to have her on for half an hour, let's take your calls on topic for that.
So if you want to talk to her, you might want to call in a little early.
She'll be on in less than an hour.
Alright, let's queue up, Malkin.
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Fox News contributor Griff Jenkins was the only one in Denver targeted by protesters at this week's Democratic National Convention.
Remember, he was swarmed.
Look at what conservative blogger Michelle Malkin had to deal with as she sought to cover an attempt by anti-war protesters there to levitate the Denver Mint.
For sure we are on the second night of the Democratic National Convention out here in Denver.
We've got some demonstrators out here.
This is a free country, as you can tell.
We've got bullhorns and everything.
We're going to try to ignore some of the crazier elements and hear from the people that are here to cover the convention and are paying attention to it.
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You know, I guess it's the old question of character's thick.
Last night, I never saw so much character.
The charm of Michelle Obama, she was downright fetching as a family member, as a mother.
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It was father-nosed badger, rather, it was the Huxtaples.
Also, there was a great sentimental moment with Senator Kennedy.
Like, you didn't realize the Democrats were not getting you out of the war two years ago when you voted them in?
And nothing happened?
And Pelosi said impeachment was off the table?
Pelosi was part of the initial congressional investigation into 9-11.
She's the problem.
She's openly New World Order.
When she was, uh, namespeaker of the House, she talked about Novos Ordo Seclorum on the back of the dollar bill.
And how it was, uh, you know, she brings the Founding Fathers into it, and blah blah blah blah blah.
And then she did it again.
She's New World Order.
Okay? It's not just a wrestling tag team group, folks.
It's the real deal.
It's what all this is about.
It's about globalism.
And that's why I really hope that Paul Greg Roberts is wrong.
Because, uh, personally, I don't want to be blown up.
I don't know about you.
And, uh, if you missed that first, uh, segment interview, it'll be in the refeed.
He's right.
We're all going to that spirit in the sky.
Not most of us, though.
Because we're all too greedy.
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Too apathetic.
We don't really care what's going on.
All right, we're going to come back.
We're going to play Alex on Russia TV today and a bunch more from the DNC.
Remember, he's streaming live over at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv.
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And, you know, you ain't good if you go down to the DNC and start pushing around Fox News reporters and just I'm glad that there aren't 50,000 people out there acting like morons.
Good! It only makes us look bad.
People with real issues, with real dissent.
mentioned earlier, Alex Jones was on Russia today on the situation in Georgia, and we probably have just enough time to play that clip for you in this segment before we come back for the second hour.
So let's hit that clip.
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While the shooting may be over, the war of words continues.
Russia has criticized the Western media for what it has called its biased view on the conflict, but not all journalists blame Russia for the conflict.
Alex Jones from the InfoWars.com website claims American viewers have been deceived by the coverage.
First off, let me say I am ashamed as an American.
I'm a loyal American who loves my country, but my country has been taken over by a private international military-industrial complex, and they launched a sneak attack on the Russian enclaves of Abkhazia and other areas, as you know, on 888.
Using the cover of the Olympic Games and a dastardly sneak attack on the Order of Pearl Harbor in World War II.
And I'm just so ashamed that our country's been hijacked and is being used to do this.
I was watching foreign news and I knew that the U.S.-backed Georgians, the Israeli and NATO-backed Georgians had snuck attack viciously and were hunting down and killing civilians, attacking the peacekeepers.
Just unprecedented crimes in our modern age, the 21st century.
And then I would turn on CNN and Fox and even BBC.
And they were reporting that Russia, it was headlines, Russia invades Georgia, Russia sneak attacks.
And our leaders went on television and said that we would have to have a new Cold War.
It was such an insult to the American people's intelligence that the United States backed Georgia.
And I apologize as an American that we want our government to be taken over like this.
This is not The United States that I grew up in, the neocons in NATO, in the U.S. and Israel want to have a new Cold War.
I just hope Russia keeps troops in Georgia so no more sneak attacks can be launched because the dictator, and we know he was elected under fraud there in Georgia, has said that he plans, he said it last week, to attack again as soon as he can.
So please, Russia does not need to leave these areas that have been part of Russia for years, Abkhazia, Alex Jones telling it like it is over on Russian television folks.
You know, I've seen a ton of positive commentaries on some of the message boards about what he's been doing in the DNC, but there are always those backbiters, those haters, you know, those people that are raging with jealousy or just insanity, in my opinion.
Alex is getting a ton of news coverage.
9-11 Truth is getting a ton of news coverage.
You know, he's making the international media.
Provocateurs are trying to set him up.
Of course he's being effective.
He's the most effective thing out there.
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He's on John Gibson, who has him on often, actually.
You know, John Gibson trying to get the ratings and trying to, you know, say that Alex is a kook and this and that.
But he is one of the few people that will actually give him a forum to speak, as pompous as John Gibson is.
And Michelle Malkin, we just played that clip.
You know, she tries to equate Alex Jones and, uh, you know, the 9-11 truth movement with these people who were trying to quote-unquote levitate the mint.
No, that's not us!
We're in a place called reality.
We're not going to go levitate the mint in a Fantasia outfit.
Someone really...
I don't even know if they need to get, you know, slapped in the mouth.
They're grown men.
They should...
The guy looks like he's like 55, 60 years old.
I mean, is that really gonna help that guy?
Maybe he just needs to be put on a gurney and Be hospitalized for the rest of his life if he thinks he's gonna levitate the mint.
You know, I guess you'd want to be a moron and help set up, you know, other dissidents to make them look like morons and, you know, misguided people look like anarchists and put on masks and try to incite violence.
That didn't work, so you couldn't get your thousands and thousands of people to, you know, ruin the streets.
So now let's just Make us all look like idiots.
Let's try to levitate things and wear clown outfits.
Alright, I haven't done this in the whole first hour.
We had a riveting interview with Paul Craig Roberts.
Very scary interview.
There's an article up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com about his view on the Russia situation and it is a grim view.
I'm not gonna lie.
I mean, he was...
I've interviewed him like three or four times now and that was about the most hardcore interview I think I've ever done on this show.
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The relationship between Bin Laden and the CIA was essentially He was one of the assets, one of the people they could turn to.
They wanted something done, they went to Bin Laden.
In the early 1980s, Bin Laden worked with operatives from U.S. intelligence, the Pakistani military, and Arab states.
Is it not true that the United States government paid $300 million to the Bin Laden family for the construction of the military camps?
At basis, though, I really think that these were more CIA assets, people that were recruited, like all of the folks I had been issuing visas to.
Then we have that mysterious suitcase with all of the hijackers' names and all of this incriminating evidence.
Why put a Koran?
Why put flight manuals?
Why put all this incriminating information if it's supposedly going to get burned up?
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And that family that took off, that's a f***ing crime.
I was surprised at the evidence that there were foreign governments involved.
Most of that information is classified, I think overly classified.
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And a few months back when I was sitting in, we had a guest on named Rosalind Peterson, and she's really the foremost expert on chemtrails, in my opinion.
And I just got a huge amount of email, I got a huge amount of MySpace messages saying how much they love the guest.
So we're going to do one segment here with her, and then we're going to take your questions on topic for her.
Well, starting in 2002, I began to realize that there was persistent jet contrails showing up in the skies over Mendocino County in Northern California, where I live.
And starting from that period on, I began to really become interested because my background is in agriculture.
And I worked for the Mendocino County Department of Agriculture.
I grew up and was born and raised on a working farm where we had fruits and vegetables and walnuts, different types of crops.
And so then I went to work for the United States Department of Agriculture in California at the Farm Service Agency as a certified agricultural crop loss adjuster.
So I traveled all over the state looking at crop losses and making determinations about those for a period of time where I traveled about 50,000 miles a year.
So that was quite interesting for me.
And then when I realized that the skies were beginning to have man-made clouds, which according to NASA is when persistent jet contrails persist, they turn into man-made clouds, and that these man-made clouds, according to NASA, were exacerbating global warming.
And when I realized that we were on a drumbeat across the nation and around the world to do something about global warming, I was wondering why we didn't step up to the plate and stop these persistent jet contrails, because they were becoming more and more problematic in NASA studies over the past several years.
In other words, in weather modification, because NASA even says that these man-made clouds change our climate.
They will negatively impact natural resources now and in the future, according to their studies, which you can go on the NASA website and just take a look.
The studies are there.
I mean, they're not covering this up or anything.
They're pretty forthright with this.
And what I'm thinking is that when you add that these change our climate, that contrails are warming us up, they begin to keep direct sunlight from hitting the ground, which means that we're going to have a lack of vitamin D, which is critical for human health, and we're going to have a lack of photosynthesis.
That's correct, and that's why I believe that Ricketts is on the rise, because as more and more of these man-made clouds prevent direct sunlight from hitting the earth, not only does it lower crop production from a lack of photosynthesis, but it's beginning to show up in more and more recent studies from Kaiser and UC Berkeley really alarmed about the increase in rickets in children in the United States and other related diseases.
so why don't you tell people where they can find all this information what's your website and what can people do because a lot of people still today tell me oh you're crazy they're not really putting clouds up into the sky i can tape it and i can tape it for like two hours and show how it's a straight line how they do crosshatch patterns and how it you know it basically becomes clouds over the next hour hour and a half
And you see the mist, you can tell it's man-made, and I'm still crazy, so why don't you tell people where they can get this information and how they can spread it to others?
Okay, my website is CaliforniaSkyWatch.com and you can email me for more documentation if you like at info at CaliforniaSkyWatch.com, that's all spelled out.
And you can go to the NASA website.
You can go to the NOAA website.
You can go to the U.S. Air Force website.
And they talk about these programs.
I mean, a lot of them, some of them are classified, but the majority are not.
And on my website, you can find a listing for the last five years of all the weather modification programs that are ongoing in California.
And across the western states, Homeland Security started modifying hurricanes.
Actually, this month, the first of this month, they got the money.
And they're in the business now of modifying hurricanes, and that article is online as well.
So, what happens is that if you start to look for it, you will find it.
And people don't want their weather modified and their crops disrupted from weather modification programs.
They need to speak up.
Even in Southern California, there's going to be a new one.
The City Council of Los Angeles voted to put in a new weather modification program in the San Bernardino Mountains.
And when I raised the question about how this would impact surrounding states, and also the agricultural crop production that's in that area, and in surrounding areas, dead silence.
Because they don't want to talk about it.
But KTVU, John Fowler had a program that aired on July 28th that was talking about all the weather modification programs in California and that private companies, private individuals, anyone can modify the weather in your state or your county without your consent, without any prior notification.
The National Weather Service never tells you that your weather is being modified by these programs, and the listings are available of over 60 of them that are ongoing every year, and each state, each of the western states is increasing the number that they do each year.
So the programs are there.
I'll be happy to send you the NOAA documents, but they're up on the website so you can look at them.
Excellent. But if we, if we start to look at Weather modification and know that there's no government oversight.
Private companies, private individuals can modify your weather.
If they pay a company, a weather modification company to modify your weather, they can just go do it.
And if it disrupts your agriculture or puts you in a drought, well, so what?
Because no one answers.
There's no U.S. Congress Bills that say that anyone has to get permission or notify anyone about these programs.
Um, there are, uh, one regulation says that you have to tell NOAA, but I don't believe that the states and everyone that's, and private individuals that are doing these programs are notifying NOAA because there's a lot missing from their records.
So, um, this is what's going on, and it's no secret.
You can look at the, um, John Fowler program on KTVU by going in and clicking on ktvu.com and then go just put in John Fowler weather modification and the program will come right up.
Do you think that we're going to see a lot more of these weather modification programs in the future and do you think that they'll eventually be revealed to the public or do you think that we're just in such a stupor they're probably going to be able to get away with doing whatever they like Like you said, you know, a private corporation modifying the weather wherever because there's no law against it.
Do you think that we're just going to see that over the next 15 to 20 years, just complete denial?
Or do you think it's just going to be revealed, yeah, we're doing it, no big deal?
Well, if they, when they start, we know that they're doing it now.
And so the problem is that agriculture, water supplies, watersheds, everything is suffering the impacts of these programs.
And so we do know about it already, and if we don't say no, Senator Kay Bailey-Hutchinson's bill, U.S. Senate Bill 1807 or U.S. House Bill 3445, will pass this year, and then they're really going to add military weather modifications.
There will be no oversight in this bill.
You can read the bill, it's real simple to read, and you can go to GovTrack.us and just put in U.S. Senate number 1807, it will come right up.
And then there's U.S. Senate Bill 3036, which is Senator Barbara Boxer's Climate Security Act, but it's not a Climate Security Act.
It's got weather modification in that bill and weather mitigation in that bill and no public oversight.
No congressional oversight, and anyone that wants to start experimenting can go right ahead.
So, Senator Lieberman's bill, U.S. Senate Bill 2191, they only need five votes to pass them, and that legislation will be damaging to us, because it's even going to gut the Clean Water Act.
You can look them up on GovTrack.us, You can even type in weather modification and come up with about a hundred bills that all have weather modification or mitigation within the text of the bill.
So there's a lot of interest, but there's no interest in public oversight.
There's no interest in protecting our agricultural crop production.
And you see if someone, some private company, wants to put water in place X over your county, that's great because you might wind up with flooding.
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And or some other place that's nearby will wind up in drought.
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In the morning you go gunnin' For the man who stole your water And you'll fly till he is dawnin' But they catch you at the border All right, folks, we're back at the Alex Jones Show.
And as promised, I'm going to take your calls on topic for Rosalind Peterson, an expert on weather modification.
She's really just done a bang-up job putting all this information together.
She was featured on local NBC News when it came to Comtrails, Chemtrails, whatever you like to call them, in one of the only mainstream news pieces about it, where they again said that this was happening to fight and combat global warming.
All right, let's jump to Kevin in Canada.
Kevin, what's on your mind?
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That's why I talk about the whole chemtrail thing.
It's been out for a while, but there's a lot of people, like, I go into different chat rooms to try and discuss it myself.
I mean, the government's come up with all kinds of admitted documents that they've been doing this.
But I'm not sure about the weather control thing.
Right now, the number four or five killer, something like that, is death by respiratory disease caused by unknown illness.
And they've basically proven most of these chemtrails are filled with barium.
I do know that our water supplies are spiking in aluminum, barium, manganese, magnesium, and some other heavy metals.
And I'm very much questioning now throughout California why we're having these spikes.
And I do know that some atmospheric heating and testing programs are ongoing which use barium and lithium and strontium-90 in these tests.
And I'm concerned about the canisters that they shoot up loaded with those chemicals into the atmosphere.
And then when our government on rockets or on the space shuttle Uh, puts them up and superheats them.
We do know that there's a chemical reaction, um, when barium, strontium, lithium, um, manganese, magnesium, and those chemicals are put together.
We do know that they create, um, these, um, uh, in other words, these chemical, um, research vehicles for us to figure out what's going on in the ionosphere.
But these chemicals do come back down.
And so from Alaska across the United States, we're getting a lot of these chemicals in our drinking water supplies spiking way over state and federal standards.
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Are you aware of the planes that had to change direction that were taking the Alaskan route because too many of their stewardesses and that were coming down with his illness?
Um, wow, that's, that's pretty crazy if those people are, uh, becoming ill, but it would make sense.
I mean, if we have these spikes and they are putting something into the air, I mean, in that little NBC report, don't they, uh, it was you that was testing the water, right?
And the guy said that all of the, uh, All of the compounds that would make for weather modification were found there, correct?
Yes, and what we're looking at is not my own personal test.
Anyone can get a CD from the California State Department of Health going back into the 1970s with every single water test that was taken in the state of California under EPA laws.
And those tests are taken in every single drinking water source in California, whether it's a vineyard, a winery, a water district, a well, it doesn't matter.
Anything that's used for a public drinking water source is tested and tested several times a year.
So when I went back and I researched the data that was sent to me by the State of California Drinking Water Division, that's when I began to find these unusual spikes in our drinking water.
And I began to try to correlate it with what I could find that was known about what was going on with atmospheric testing, and I think there is a correlation there.
And other states are seeing the same types of spikes in their drinking water supply, so it's not just a California issue.
Rosalind, I spoke to you last time that you were on the air, and I mentioned that up here in Humboldt County area, and all up into Oregon as well, we're seeing fewer and fewer insects and wildlife, and especially birds.
At this point now, in the morning, I don't even hear a bird.
I used to be able to hear one or two.
I had mentioned that last time, and I'd also since then spoken to Alan Watt on this epic, and he said that he noticed In Ontario, Canada, the forests are much more silent.
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All at the same time with live birds just dropping out of the air.
And this incident has occurred several times.
So, we know that there's a decline.
And bee decline, if you go to my website, you'll find a lot of articles on bee decline across the United States.
And if we don't have our bees, we aren't going to have a food supply, except for four or five crops that don't need bees for pollination.
So, it's really critical that we right now determine why we're having bird deaths and bee declines.
Even in England, they just came out with an article just this month that one-third of the bees died over the last winter, and half the bees are missing in some areas in California.
In the last year or so, beekeepers are going out of business, and that means that your food crops are not going to get the pollination they need because of declines in bumblebees and other pollinators.
Sure. I had also spoken to Alan Watt and Dr. Nick Begich about the same thing.
Nick Begich is up in Alaska, and Alan Watt's in Ontario.
And they both mentioned that they've seen a big decline in, particularly songbirds, but also insect population to some extent.
Here, the insect population is almost down to zero, and it's continuing to stay that way.
I've continued to leave my doors and windows wide open with lights burning and stuff, and rarely see a fly.
Matter of fact, I saw the first, honest to God, the first blue bottle fly I'd seen in three years a couple days ago, and I just stood and looked at it in amazement.
That's how crazy it's getting up here.
So, aside from the weather modification aspect of it, there seems to be some sort of a wide-ranging poisonous effect that most people aren't noticing.
Well, it could be and we don't know, but the one thing that I'm saying is why don't we make all of this public and let the public decide on what they want to decide on.
Whether they want these weather modification programs or not, whether they want these atmospheric programs, I think that this should be up for public debate and discussion and the public should be informed and then we can make the decision.
I don't think that private individuals and government should make this kind of decision.
I think we should.
And so there's the rub.
And I think if there wasn't something wrong with it, it would be openly discussed more than it is now.
I just think that you're very, very cautious in saying what you can and cannot prove, which is, I think, a huge plus.
And you've been able to accumulate all this data, so anybody with a brain who looks at all this stuff can see that it has a negative impact, and it very well not, more than likely, is not what they're saying it is.
I mean, we've been fear-mongered with global warming now for almost 30 years.
I mean, it was in my schools as a kid.
We're all going to die.
It's going to get too hot.
The ocean's going to rise.
We're going to have mass flooding.
We're all bad.
Even today, they're pushing for a carbon tax, saying that our carbon footprint is what's wrong, and you're going to need to pay this tax based on how many cars you own, how big your house is, how much energy you use.
So it does seem like the environmental movement has been completely and totally hijacked.
All right, let's go to James in Ohio.
James, what's on your mind?
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It's a pleasure to talk to you guys.
Thanks. I was wondering, if I remember correctly, didn't they do something for the Olympics in China to make it rain or something?
If you go and Google up China and weather modification, there's a lot of articles.
And they've been modifying the weather for some time.
I've been kind of following it.
And so, yes.
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And I remember they...
They were saying about the haze or whatever that was hanging over the city and they felt if it rained it would help out the climate, not the climate, but just the atmosphere right in the city right there.
Also, my main question was, what other countries are doing this kind of stuff?
And is there any countries that are against it and trying to stop?
Because, you know, like I said, if China does something, it's in the air and it's eventually going to get to us.
The United States weather modification companies openly admit that they're modifying the weather in over 50 countries around the world.
That was on the Discovery Channel in 2007.
And the other issue becomes that as we modify the weather more and more, we perfect it down to where it becomes the weapon of war, which is talked about, the military talks about owning the weather.
In 2025, and they talk about that it will be one of the most powerful weapons of war.
However, they have to experiment to make it.
In other words, to control the weather.
So I think the American population and other populations around the world, especially in NATO countries, are being experimented upon to do the weather modification program.
And openly, a lot of private companies are doing these programs.
They did a bait-and-switch tactic on that, and made claims that some of us who talk about these experimental programs, that we were some sort of believers.
But other than that, there was some interesting information on it, because they did talk about modifying the weather.
They talked about persistent jet contrails.
NASA Patrick Minnis was on there.
And what he talked about was these man-made, persistent contrails that turn into man-made clouds that can persist for hours and change the climate, modify the weather.
And he talked about one contrail that, in other words, that they were looking at in specific that lasted, that expanded and lasted for about 26 hours.
And they can cover 4,000 square miles, one contrail.
So when you put up a lot, you realize that we're dimming the amount of sunlight and making man-made clouds all over the United States.
Also, I would recommend that any listeners from Texas look up the Texas Weather Modification Program and find out if you're in a drought area produced by one of those weather modification programs.
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I spend my summers in Alaska and I usually drive, I've driven to Alaska and back in the spring and the fall ten times and I spend a lot of time in British Columbia and Alaska and the denial that they have up there towards the chemtrail issue, I think that when you're in a beautiful place like Alaska and you have so many things to do with your spare time that you You don't bother concerning yourself with a lot of subject matters that they're finally starting to have to come to grips with.
I sat and talked to some people up in Alaska and they all, 90% of them basically thought I was crazy.
But the thing is, I've been following this for over 10 years.
The very first one I ever saw with my own eyes, I knew something was wrong and dove straight into it.
And I've been in the middle of it and I've got samples I read Rents.com one day where they talked about these polymer fibers with desiccated blood cells attached to them, and I couldn't believe that was true.
I'm playing golf, December 15, 2005 in Fort Worth, and all of a sudden I see these spiderwebs falling from the sky, and you can't collect them with your hands because this stuff is heat sensitive, so you grab these twigs Uh, where it was collecting on bushes and I collected this stuff, took it home, went and bought a microscope and it's exactly what was on rents.com.
So I mean, you know, this, this is, this should be at the front of the, this should be at the top of the heap as far as what we're talking about here concerning our government and everything else.
I mean, you know, the, the, I think we're coming to, I think we're coming face-to-face with the brainwashing of the denial people are in with this subject.
I don't know because I have never had any to test.
And I know that the southern states from Florida, Louisiana, Georgia, Texas, all of those states, Arkansas, are all having problems.
And so, and other areas in the United States as well.
And I haven't ever had any to test.
And I don't advocate anyone sending me those because I don't want to, if there's a problem, I don't want to spread whatever's going on around either.
So I can't tell you too much about it.
I've heard about it, but I don't know.
But I do want to say is that everything has been put under the Chemtrail conspiracy wording.
And what happened is I even talked just this past week to a staff member for a U.S. Congresswoman, and what happened was is that when I started to raise the issues about the water test, I started to raise all the issues about the document.
He's the one that brought up the conspiracy theory.
And, uh, in other words, it's almost dismissive.
Um, you know, the United States Air Force declares chemtrails a hoax.
NASA, NOAA, government agencies.
And what happens is our elected officials don't want to touch that word because they figure it's, it's like, they don't want to be branded in believing or thinking about a conspiracy theory.
And so I, I really refuse to use it, and what I've done is I've gone in and I put the documents in front of them, I put the reports in front of them, and I hammer away that we're not talking about conspiracy theory.
What we're talking about are real tests, real results, real studies by NASA, real weather modifications listed by NOAA.
And you see, I drive home the issue that the tree decline, the bee decline, all of these things are real.
The legislation on weather modification programs are real.
So I hammer away at this, and this is where I'm starting, and people that are doing this, too, are starting to make inroads on this subject.
And those that just talk about chemtrails and loop everything into a belief system, it doesn't work well.
Final segment with Rosalind Peterson on the other side, and we're going to finish up with your phone calls.
We've got TJ, Scott, and others holding.
We'll get to them after this.
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I've come with a message of information.
11 was an inside job!
Do you like being a puppet, sir?
Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
Okay, Rosalind, I commend your feminine view on this Spray plane problem we've had for about nine years here in the upper Midwest.
I think your narrow approach might be very well constructive to the masses, wherein they won't believe all of the realities surrounding this diabolical operation.
They can't deny bad weather, and so I commend you for that approach, and it remains to be seen if we'll win this battle against these flying bastardos.
But I want to tell you something.
There's a Clear Channel radio station in north-central Iowa, and in the past three or four months, before they give a weather forecast, one of their own boys, it's interjected into a weather forecast on radio, amplitude modulation, AM Clear Channel, and it says, Weather Modification.
And then it goes on to say, What's in store for you today?
And I called the radio station and made an inquiry, and they acted like they hadn't even heard their own programming.
Good. Okay, well I've researched this, uh, the chemtrail thing for a long time, and I have the real answers of what, um, to give proof to the media to actually, you know, just like Rosalind's talking about, but there's a program I haven't heard her mention.
It's called the Atmospheric Radiation Measurement Program.
That's the ARM program, and it's part of the DOE, Department of Energy.
And in that program, it's directed with universities and Pacific Northwest National Labs.
They have their own website.
In there, they talk about how they put the stuff in the air.
It's called Indirect, Semi-Direct, Indirect Aerosol Campaign.
You can Google all that stuff.
I brought this up to Alex.
He checked it out, and he flipped out over it.
And he said this guy, he wanted me to write a story.
You know, I'm not the kind of computer savvy as far as writing stories and stuff, but I haven't done that yet.
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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With Alex Jones's adventures from the DNC already making national news all over the place.
I think it was Inside Edition, not Extra, that was coming over today, but I'm not quite sure.
He was on Russia Today.
We aired that clip.
He broke through on MSNBC for about 40 minutes chanting 9-11 was an inside job and Infowars.com.
Of course, he had that altercation with Michelle Malkin.
And it's so funny.
I'm sitting here and I'm reading some of these bloggers and Mashable.com is calling Alex a You know, not only did he call for a death, but he's an ultra left-wing hardcore leftist and he was there to levitate the mint.
No he wasn't.
He was walking through the crowd.
None of us are dumb enough to dress up like wizards and think we're going to levitate the mint.
No, he was trying to get press attention to the monster that is Michelle Malkin.
Somebody who literally calls for internment camps for Americans.
Someone who literally lies about the soldiers Killing innocent animals and people, unfortunately.
I mean, you know, some of the people over there are lost folks.
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Anything. They enjoy it.
It's sick.
Okay? And, uh, this little propagandist gets confronted by Alex and then her little neocon bloggers run over.
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And, uh, you know, kill Michelle Malkin!
Kill Mich- Alex is saying kill Michelle Malkin!
No, he wasn't.
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And I guess Bill was up and white somewhere up in the gallery.
I didn't see it.
But, you know, it's all a show.
As we know, the candidates will be What the Illuminists behind the scenes want them to be and who they will be and us people will get to vote for them.
In fact, I cover that in briefly in today's International Forecaster.
And so I think what we got to aim at at Congress in this next election and with the exception of a few people get rid of them all.
We don't need them.
Let's get some new people in there.
Some ladies and gentlemen who want to really represent their constituents and not the banking sector or Wall Street or corporate America.
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I think a good test to see if we'll be able to actually do that is whether we can elect Cindy Sheehan or not.
If we can get Sheehan in office over Pelosi, I think there might be hope that others may take her lead and run for Congress, not on behalf of the special interests, but on behalf of we the people.
We'll be back after this.
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It is my latest, my greatest, and I think in the next segment we will play, uh, uh, the Israeli operatives chapter.
Or, I'm sorry, trailer.
And right now we have Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com on with us, and we were just discussing, you know, how we need to get rid of 90 plus percent of, uh, the congressional members in this country.
The House.
Let's get rid of the House.
And I was saying, you know, a good test to see if we're willing to do that is if we can get, uh, Cindy Sheehan in there.
I mean, a woman who has literally sacrificed one of her sons overseas in this war has been relentless in the last, I'd say, what has it been, like five, six years in trying to end this war, and she's come out for 9-11.
Truth, folks, she's very smart, she's very hip, she's very savvy in what she says.
I think that would be terrific, and I think you're right.
I think if it looked like she had a real shot at it, I think even in this election, it would encourage people to get rid of the likes of Pelosi in other parts of the country, and all of the rest of them that continue to get re-elected because they have the funds to do so, and then don't represent their constituency.
They go right to the alumnus and get their payoff, which is campaign contributions and all the favors that are supplied to their friends, corporate friends, and personal friends, And let's stop there for just one second.
It would really be the first step in my eyes At restoring the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
I mean, I think we really have to take the special interest money out of it, because like you said, when there's no cap on it, it's kind of like, you know, they're the Yankees and we're the Brewers.
You know what I'm saying?
We don't have a shot to even make the playoffs, but they can just buy any pitcher, catcher, anything they need.
And if you can run, you know, a $50 million campaign for somebody else, and the other candidate can spend $500,000, gee, I wonder who's gonna win?
Unusual personal lifestyles does not begin to tell people what these guys are into.
Last night, I was actually, I spent most of my time scanning in Alex's Bohemian Grove annals so I can put it into PDF format and throw it in my next film, Invisible Empire.
And we're talking not only the Owl God, the Cremation of Care ceremony, but guys in drag everywhere.
I mean, it seems like this is like their most fun thing to do is get dressed up in drag and pretend they're a Broadway star, Bob.
Well, they call them cross-dressers, and they've been around for a long time, and many, many of them practice pedophilia and other things that most people in society don't do.
And when they get into Congress, Uh, the powers behind Congress, if they know that, and they usually do, will approach him and say, look, you know, if you don't want anybody to know that you chase little girls or little boys or whatever, then I think you ought to vote for this issue and that issue and this issue and that issue.
And case in point there is a guy like Tom Foley, who's actually heading up the government CPS department.
He's on TV saying, we're going after these predators, we're going to make sure that they pay.
And then it comes out that he's...
And I'm sure it was a lot more hardcore than what just came out in the mainstream media, but he is giving quote-unquote inappropriate text to his 16-year-old page at a high school.
His mail page, by the way.
You know, so the guy at the top who's supposed to be protecting children from predators is preying on children, Bob.
Because another thing that really, really bothers me about the Illuminists, this elitist organization, Is that many of them pose as Christian conservatives with a happy family, they believe in Jesus Christ, and the people that follow them are often, you know, just mindless Christians that go to church, they think their church tells them the truth, they think that George Bush worships Jesus Christ, and then you find out that these guys, and I'm not a religious guy, I just can't stand the deception, that these guys are into the occult, like the exact opposite.
And what he's doing is he's pulling the chain on all of his co-religionists, you know, getting them sent off to camps, and they either worked to death, or whatever happened, they died, most of them.
And, uh, and here he's running around, uh, splitting the tank with the, with the Gestapo, and it's sickening.
And here today, he is the one through his, uh, non-governmental organizations, NGOs, as they're known, he's the one who, uh, ten years ago, with, uh, his Open Society funds, and funds from the UN, infiltrated all these former Soviet Union countries, such as Ukraine and Georgia and many others.
And they infiltrated, they wormed their way into those governments and took control of them.
Exactly. And he's there with George Soros, so they will line this guy up for years.
And now the failure of what they did, they're blaming on him.
Whether he was the cause of it remains to be seen, but I don't think so.
It was, again, another poor planning event.
Both by Brzezinski as well as the White House.
I mean, you know, these are truly the guys that can't shoot straight.
I mean, they can't do anything right.
I mean, they had over 1,000 Blackwater advisors, over 1,000 Israeli advisors who were training them for a long time.
They've been giving them munitions for over five years.
And they set up this attack, and then they get defeated.
And another thing, too, is that they had to have thought that the Russians were going to run in terror or not participate, or sorry, you guys can come in here and take this over.
But they underestimated Mr.
Putin and their new president, and so they turned around and kicked their butts for them.
In fact, the Georgians just ran in terror I don't know how they could have actually expected a lay-down.
Do you think that was because of, you know, all the NATO forces that have surrounded Russia in the previous years?
Do you think that maybe it was the United States kind of in their ear going, well, you know, you go take South Ossetia, maybe you'll be a part of NATO right after that?
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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I want to remind people that Alex and myself will be in New York City on September 10th to show Fabled Enemies and Truth Rising, and then we will be down at Ground Zero on September 11th talking to people, and there's events on the following weekend.
Bob, I kind of want to get into your intelligence service.
It's something we really haven't talked to too much on the show.
And most of what I did was in communications counterintelligence.
And so I wasn't running around with a cloak and one of those big black hats and a dagger and a gun because I didn't do that sort of thing.
I used to work in communications.
We would intercept all of the things that the Russians and what was then the East Germans and the Poles and And one of the reasons I'm so familiar with so many of these regions is we would go in and we would listen in and copy the transmissions of the NKVD or the KGB or some mechanized army unit
that was stationed in Georgia or outside Wausau or wherever We did a lot of work with the units in the caucuses.
We copied the mainline diplomatic operator out of Moscow.
And we had great success in breaking their codes.
But I rather suspect that they were equally as proficient as we were.
And that's basically what I did.
But it was an enormous education because The amount and kind of information we came across was very unusual, and we learned how to back into things that you wouldn't be able to find out what they were doing otherwise.
In other words, if there's a train coming from that direction carrying cement, and there's one coming from the other direction carrying steel, and they're both going to Vladivostok, Obviously they're going to build something, so let's find out what.
And, uh, the thing all got messed up, but because they were drunk, and they all, we found out later, were reprimanded and were reduced in rank, and some of them were put in jail for doing what they did.
But, They let us know how successful their counterintelligence was in Western Germany.
Really? You know, when you're young and you're well-trained, You know, you like to mix it up.
And, uh, you know, anybody that gets into that kind of situation will tell you that.
And, um, uh, one of the people who did the same kind of work that I did was Parter Goss, who became, uh, later head of the Central Intelligence Agency.
Good news for you Alex Jones fanatics, it looks like we're going into overdrive, past four hours today.
And we might just have a special little interview for you, uh, straight from the DNC there.
I don't wanna...
I don't wanna preclude what's gonna happen, but, uh, definitely gonna have a special guest on in the, uh, final segment.
In overdrive, and if you missed my Paul Craig Roberts interview earlier today, I mean, he really thinks that this could lead to a nuclear altercation like no other.
One where, I mean, the United States is physically wiped out and the majority of us are killed.
Before we go to that and to your calls, what's your take on a guy like Porter Goss?
You know, a lifelong intelligence guy, like I said, heads up the congressional investigation into 9-11.
Becomes CIA head, I think it was less than a year he actually held the position, but what interests me about him becoming the head of the CIA is that Michael Moore's people actually got an interview with him for Fahrenheit 9-11 that they didn't put most of it in,
but he actually says that, well, I'm really not qualified to be the head of the CIA, I don't even know how to run email, I can barely use the internet, I really don't have the today skills that the head of the CIA would need to be, and then Of course, he gets named head of the CIA, so Moore plays that clip on Jay Leno.
Well, I think that he spent his early years with the agency in Central and South America working against Cuba.
So his perspective probably was relatively narrow.
But I think that in his experience, he decided to go along with the program.
He didn't get out of it.
And as you know, the Iran-Contra episode was drugs for guns.
And there was a major drug-running operation.
And for those of you who have not read into that, there's a book called Compromise that was Written a number of years ago.
It really explains it in detail by someone who was involved in the whole thing.
And so that was really Goss's background.
It wasn't an administrative type of background.
And I think people who run agencies of any kind, they're better off training And working inside and working up within that structure rather than being pulled out of the field.
It's two different lifestyles.
And I think probably that's what he was trying to say.
I'll tell you one thing.
In intelligence work, I never ran into anybody who was dumb.
And maybe Goss didn't have the tools to run the CIA because he'd never been involved in No, he seemed to be very successful at what he did and you know he's still around today and they still put him into positions of power and he's still kind of a talking head here and there so
obviously he's kind of maintained a relationship with these guys yeah it's been his whole life and um It's just like my business and finance and social and political issues have been things that I've worked in and talked about for many years.
I consider investment part of a mosaic and a lot of what happens in investment and where you go and what you do is based on psycho-political warfare.
And when you can see things that are developing like you referred to just Now in relation to what Paul Craig Roberts had to say in your program and when he and I were on recently and that is what is happening today in regard to Russia is extraordinarily important.
It's a major move by the Illuminati powers to put Russia in its place and it's not working and at the same time They know that they're not going to be able to save the financial system, and they want a diversion.
And the diversion is another Cold War and conflict here and there, like in Kosovo and Georgia, and perhaps the Ukraine and other places.
And then again, we'll have a bona fide enemy, and that enemy in this case will be Russia, may even be China as well.
Well, I mean, like I said, you couldn't get more depressing than that first segment.
I mean, I was literally like, well, so what's going to happen?
I mean, are we talking about a uh...
new conscription force a new mandarby he's like no we're not talking about that we're talking about you wake up and there are cities gone that most of america is dead and i'm just like wow i mean i that is that's craziness to me but you know this is a guy who's been around for you know forty plus years is very smart his recent articles for counterpunch have been really pulling no punches and he's come out a little uh...
Well, just before you get to that part, I want people to know that the Book of the Law is a book that he wrote that he was supposedly channeled by, uh, separate, uh, deities, entities, demons, whatever you want to call them, correct?
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Yeah, he took his wife to, uh, Egypt back in, uh, 1903, uh, he, uh, was taking a ritual, and, yes, uh, according to him, he was, um, he got, uh, The Deity Horus, no,
the Deity Nuit, the Deity Hadith, Nuit, the Sky God is Hadith, the Earth God, and Hor Por Krat or Horus, Book of the Warring Child, the three books, the three deities.
So your basic point though is that these guys don't even follow their own occultic beliefs?
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No, they aren't in here.
Like, in chapter 12, Crowley even stated he doesn't, he doesn't, uh, he wouldn't like, if he was still alive, he wouldn't like what they're doing today.
In chapter 12, it's the chapter that all the people that say he's a child killer are, like, killing 120 people.
No, he was partaking in a sexual magic, sex magic ritual with his partner.
He had sex 120 times with his partner, and he sacrificed, in a sense, All right, Elliot, I thank you for the call.
I've read a great deal about him, and his thought process lurks at the base of what Illuminism is, and it's the sort of thing that The black nobility in Europe have been involved in for centuries.
And he wrote a book about it.
And had he not, we wouldn't have known his thoughts and the thoughts of many others who shared his viewpoint.
Which, to me, is just pure Satanism.
And like yourself, I don't have anything good to say about him.
And, uh, you know, I think that these guys do their own flavor of whatever feels good.
That's what the ultimate root of Luciferianism is.
Do as thou wilt.
So they're probably, no matter, you know, what writings, teachings they've learned, no matter what secret societies they're in and, you know, what level they are in Masonry or Knights Templar or any of these organizations, you know, I think it comes down to the bottom line that in their brain, and that this goes for the majority of them that are in power, they do what they want.
And it doesn't matter who's in the lane.
The ends justifies the means and the ends are for them.
It's not for humanity.
Alright, let's jump to another caller.
Let's go to Elizabeth in Maryland.
Elizabeth, what's on your mind?
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Congratulations to you, Jason, on your film.
This is Elizabeth Border from the Divided Kingdom, the other GCN program that's on in the evenings.
And I really originally called in to talk to Rosalind Peterson about the chemtrails.
But it all fits together, and as Bob knows, I've interviewed him various times, and I have great respect for his incisive mind and his judgment.
And what occurs to me, I'm very glad that you both brought up the Bohemian Grove situation.
And I believe this is really, as Bob said, what lurks at the bottom of the Illuminist ideology.
It really is Satanism.
And I think for that reason, what I wanted to say, I do hope that people, this is not self-serving, I get no money really from this at all.
I hope that people will go to Radio Liberty and get my books.
With much, much more information than weather modification.
Again, I think there's an underbelly to this, and from my book, one of the little facts that shows all of this is a global plan, there was the fact that the Chemtrail Springs of the Croatian town of Raica, R-Y-I-K-A, Bob, I hope I'm pronouncing that right, but anyway, the springs there started the next day after Croatia entered the Partnership for Peace.
So this writer observing this, concluded that NATO is the executive branch of the real chemtrail spraying operation.
And I want to make one other point.
There really are chemtrails.
There is no conspiracy because Dennis Kucinich introduced a bill in 2001 called the Space Preservation Act 2977.
It listed chemtrails as one of the space weapons.
But you know what happened some time later?
As Bob says, sometimes these people get messages, they've gone too far.
That word was removed.
So I want to commend you both for what you're doing, and of course, Alex Jones for what he's doing.
I have been following him since June 2, 2003.
That was the first time I ever turned on Alex.
And what do you think, guys?
He was talking about how the elite of the world kill the children, torture them, and so forth and so on.
And from that day on, I knew part of my destiny had to be to speak out against the evil.
And yeah, I mean, when I started to come to that realization that these guys were into not only torture and bizarre rituals, but child killing.
I mean, read the Franklin cover up.
Go check out Conspiracy of Silence online.
It'll take you 45 minutes.
It's ultra sickening.
But yeah, that's one of the reasons I'm in this.
I mean, If your heart is dark enough to take advantage of a child, your heart is dark enough to do just about anything, and it is very, very, very disturbing.
Bob, what is your take on the chemtrail issue?
We had Rosalind Peterson on for an hour.
She is very cautious to not use that word, but use weather modification and then the actual metals that are found from this weather modification.
After we've ingested it and, you know, cancer's gone up another 35% and respiratory illness has gone up and our immunity to certain things is no longer there, they'll say, oh, well, we're helping you because otherwise the planet would be too hot.
By the way, have you paid your carbon credits this month?
It's absolute and complete insanity, total acclimation, and it just shows how easy it is It is to trick the American sheeple into just not paying attention and denying its existence.
It's so easy, once the main line says, this doesn't exist, for other people to parrot that same line, no matter how much evidence is right in your face.
Some US investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the US.
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I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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Well, the problem with your laptop actually today, Alex, is that I need an administration password to get on it and I've been using my laptop, so I can't even get on your laptop right now unless you've got the password.
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