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Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones, on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
jason bermas
Alright folks, it is the 25th day of August, Monday, 2008.
It is DNC time, it has kicked off.
Alex Jones is going to be live reporting, breaking in with all the hot news.
You can see live streams over at Infowars.com.
That should be starting in about a half hour, 45 minutes if it's not already up.
We've got a jam-packed show for you otherwise.
We have Alan Watt at 11.30, we have Marty the Soapman Schachter, a very lively character, Now before we get into that, over the weekend it was announced that Joseph Biden, Joey B as I like to call him, has been tapped to be the vice presidential nominee.
Now, Joey B is a longtime company man.
He was recently named in a Bush administration scandal where they're like, hey, you know, maybe, uh, maybe there'll be some good words in it from you for, uh, from Joseph Biden.
I think it was on Kurdistan or something like that.
I forget the, uh, the nation, but, uh, Aaron posted a story about it before he left.
What I don't like about Joe Biden is, is he obviously knows about global government, AKA the new world order, although it's in different forms.
He actually wrote an article Back in 1992 for the Wall Street Journal, you gotta remember this guy is a CFR guy, that's Council on Foreign Relations, doesn't hide it.
Anyway, he writes this article called, How I Learned to Love the New World Order.
and joey b has been trying to be president for quite some time now i believe he was in the two thousand four and two thousand eight democratic debates for that nomination failing both times He's also very aware of RFID technology.
going to be named to the Supreme Court, and they were having hearings for that, he asked him, he said, look, it's going to be decided on in your lifetime, what are you going to do when the government says it wants to chip the U.S.
population? Of course, Roberts said he would be against such a thing.
But just that he's aware of that shows you that he is a cunning politician.
Now, I have a movie coming out called Fabled Enemies that deals with the international intelligence ring that helped carry this out, showing the different roles of different nations.
And Pakistan's role was to be set up as the funding arm, the covert funding arm of the hijackers, so we could later blackmail them into using their nation as a launching base for the occupation of Afghanistan.
Yes, we did mass troops in all these other areas before that, but Pakistan was another strategic point where we wanted to use, and we did.
And Joseph Biden, Got on the floor on the 12th and started saying all these awful things about Pakistan.
They pretend to be our friend.
They're not our buddies.
We're going to have to deal with them.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Then Colin Powell gets up.
He says, well, we'll see what Pakistan can do to help us.
And then, of course, they give in to our demands as they are a puppet establishment.
Now, another interesting fact is that Joseph Biden is meeting with this guy who is covertly funding Muhammad and others.
from the Pakistani ISI, the Inter-Services Intelligence Organization over in Pakistan.
Basically, they're CIA, set up in the 80s by our CIA.
It is just another arm of, again, this international intelligence monopoly.
Now, Mahmood Ahmed is in DC the week before 9-11 meeting with Joey B, meeting with George Tenet, meeting with Porter Goss and Bob Graham on the morning of 9-11, having breakfast with them.
And those are the two guys that head up the initial congressional investigation into 9-11, where 27 pages are redacted, concerning the foreign government's, that's foreign government's, involvement in 9-11, and we go over that also, in Fabled Enemies.
Now we have a new teaser out, I launched on Saturday evening, after Joey B was named as the Democratic nominee, and he plays a vital role in this.
See, he admitted to knowing that the ISI was funding the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, And, uh, he later says that that information is classified.
Now, once again, we'll be playing this in the next segment, but it's important to note because he's just another cover-up artist.
He's another globalist.
He's another person on the payroll.
I guess he's bringing supposed, uh, what is it called, credibility and experience to the Obama campaign.
Give me a break.
Just another globalist, folks.
The Alex Jones Show, Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
unidentified
May I have everybody's attention, please?
I've come with a message of information.
9-11 was an inside joke.
luke rudkowski
Do you like being a puppet, sir?
jason bermas
Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
luke rudkowski
How do the American people know that 9-11 was a state that was engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the bilateral commission, the CFR?
unidentified
The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.
Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
alex jones
An inside job.
unidentified
How dare you?
If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.
All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.
And if the government has not told the truth in 5 years, we will be here on the 10th anniversary of...
alex jones
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jason bermas
All right, folks, I'm Jason Bermas.
I'll be sitting in through Thursday, and Alex is going to be with us in just a few moments, calling in live from the DNC.
Remember, we are broadcasting live from the DNC over at InfoWars.com via Justin.tv.
Nice little service there.
Before I go to this fabled enemies teaser, InfoWars has just posted an article called Joe Biden's New World Order speech.
You see, he doesn't just write about it, he likes to talk about it.
In his speech on the threshold of a new world order, this is his speech, a rebirth for the United Nations, hmm, gee, sounds a lot like world government to me, maybe I'm the kook, Biden called for meddling in the former Soviet Union and China, imposing a free economy on these countries, i.e. allowing the international bankers to freely loot and pillage, and expanding NATO and allowing it to operate outside of its territory.
You know, I called up my buddy, who is an ex-military guy, I guess he's still on reserve now.
He went to Iraq, and I hadn't talked to him in a little bit over a month, so, you know, I thought I'd catch up and I wanted to ask him if he knew what was going on in Georgia and Russia, and he's like, well, you know, from what I've heard, the Russians attacked, and I told him exactly what happened.
He's like, wow, and I told him the role of NATO forces surrounding Russia over the past few years, and he's like, yeah, NATO, okay, and he's like, yeah, they're far from peacekeepers.
They just do whatever they want, and, you know, The conversation furthered.
And I was like, well, did you know that, you know, Blackwater has started to open up publicly their own quote-unquote intelligence organizations?
And he's like, well, that's really no surprise to me.
He's like, you know, I've always considered going back to Blackwater if things get really bad because, you know, you got to choose a side.
And I'm like, would you really want to choose that side?
And he's like, well, I would never attack American citizens or do anything like that.
But, you know, when it comes down to it and, you know, I was just like, man, That is the wrong way to go.
So without further ado, let's expose Joey V on the Mahmood Ahmed ISI tie-in that he knew exactly about, has still really not exposed publicly, and has admitted is classified.
Take it away.
unidentified
Senator Joe Biden, who had also met with the head of the Pakistani ISI, would have harsh words on the Senate floor.
And the word should go out to those To pretend that they wish to be our friends, that they're going to have to make some very difficult choices.
Pakistan in particular is going to have to make a very difficult choice very soon.
Words will not be sufficient.
Actions will be demanded.
When Biden was confronted, he confirmed his meeting with Ahmed, saying Pakistani intelligence was indeed funding the Taliban.
luke rudkowski
Sir, sir, in the days following 9-11, you met with the head of Pakistani ISI, General Muhammad Ahmed.
It has since come to light that he ordered Shaheed Sheikh to wire $100,000 to Mohammad Ata.
Why was he allowed to go back to Pakistan?
And why was he questioned?
And why were you meeting with him?
unidentified
I met with him to deliver a message that if he didn't, if he didn't stop supporting the Taliban, we would take him out.
luke rudkowski
Why did we let him go?
We let him fly freely.
We never investigated him.
We never even looked into him.
unidentified
Look, first thing called diplomatic passports.
We did not arrest Khrushchev when he came.
But he financed the hijackers and you let him go and he's free.
luke rudkowski
He hijacked the hijackers.
unidentified
No one knew he financed them.
That's why I didn't say get awarded.
He would later state that the information was indeed classified.
luke rudkowski
How did you know the ISI was helping the Taliban, sir?
How did you know they were helping them out?
unidentified
Is it classified?
jason bermas
Well, there you go.
It dropped September 1st on DVD.
You can pre-order it now at InfoWars.com.
It'll come out a little early for the PrisonPlanet.TV members.
And DVD quality, it's really ready to go.
It is Fabled Enemies, and it is my latest and greatest movie.
I have wrote and directed this picture.
Of course, Rob Jacobson, Aaron Dykes helped me edit this.
Did the majority of the editing, thank God.
And, you know, I just want to thank Alex one more time for providing the assistance.
That I needed to make this picture, because this picture really delves into just more than the Pakistani operation.
Delves into the Saudi Arabian funding.
You know, the, uh, banking in this country.
Okay? The continuity of government program, which is the shadow government that so many people still insist does not exist.
You see, the shadow government isn't real, because only kooks and tinfoil hat, uh, people actually talk about it.
Well, no, I'm sorry.
Continuity government was in place on 9-11 through war games, including Global Guardian and others.
And we had these E4Bs in the air that just happened to be on the scenes of the attacks.
And people are still just not aware.
You know, Dick Cheney was given all this power on the morning of 9-11.
The shadow government was pretty much put into place indefinitely.
We've suspended all sorts of constitutional rights in this country.
We now have domestic wiretapping going on.
Nothing can be done.
Can't go after the government.
It's all under the veil of national security.
And it's quite disgusting.
Have I lost hope?
No. Am I upset with what's going on?
You bet your bottom dollar.
I'm very upset at what's going on and I feel like the only way that we can conquer this is to expose the lie of 9-11 in which all of our foreign and domestic policy is based on.
And with that I want to talk about some grand standards.
Well, I'll be down at Ground Zero, so will Alex, on September 10th to show Fabled Enemies and Truth Rising and then of course September 11th Good.
alex jones
I am here.
I'm just a mile or so away from the camp.
Coming up in about 15-20 minutes at PrisonPlanet.com and InfoWars.com.
We're going to go live with a live video feed there.
The video feed's dead right now.
It'll go live.
And we're also going to have several other cameras.
We're going to go up and investigate the camp.
You see they already have people out there.
So that's coming up in about 15 minutes.
We're going to move Ellen Watt back to noon.
And that means you'll still have some time with Ellen Watt.
Coming up today, we'll be doing this throughout the week, just preempting or moving guests.
As the schedule changes here, this is all a fluid situation.
We've already had feds coming up to us and asking us out of the blue, basically, if we want weapons or we want security.
I mean, it's just the classic thing.
There's black helicopters, army, black hawks flying around.
There's police and riot gear everywhere.
When you drive by these groups of clustered police, They just look at every citizen in every car, all over downtown Denver, Mile High City, with just disgust and hatred, with the ugliest looks on their faces, and just, just absolute, just disgust, and with the lowest forms of life.
We are just looked at with just abject hatred like we are, the lowest form of life on the planet.
They've obviously told the police Yeah, I'm gonna pick up 15 if you can.
Okay. All right.
So, again, I'm here navigating through checkpoints, police, all sorts of activities.
Now, there is an officer, the first one I've seen, actually not looking at people like their dog feces.
I was handing people little information sheets, and I think I have to go through this checkpoint.
It is a checkpoint, just to go down a main street here.
So they have large areas shut down.
Again, I'm driving on the cell phone and doing a radio show and being videotaped by the guys, so there's a lot happening here.
It's hard to focus in on the news, but bottom line, the anarchists Engage in another false flag, this time of acting like total scum.
Yesterday, there were thousands of peaceful demonstrators and protesters out, but Fox News knew how to focus in specifically...
jason bermas
On the provocateurs and violence, right, Alec?
alex jones
Hold on one second.
I've got to talk to the police.
jason bermas
Absolutely. I mean, Alex is down there at the DNC right now.
Hold on one second.
alex jones
Yep. Hold on one second.
Officer, what is this?
Where does it live on the radio right now?
Which one do is make a right?
Okay, gotcha.
unidentified
Which one do is make a right?
Left on the 15th or left on the plate?
alex jones
Okay, thank you.
What are those?
marty schachter
Not for you.
alex jones
Well, obviously I'm not royal.
I just didn't know what they were.
unidentified
Thanks. Not for you.
alex jones
They're, like, handing these little sheets out.
unidentified
I'm like, not for you.
alex jones
I'm sorry, it's all crazy here.
Let me just get to the bottom line.
The anarchists that Fox went up and talked to, ignoring the families and people with strollers and all the peaceful people, conservatives, liberals, you know, anti-war folks, people who want the Democratic Party to do what they were elected for almost two years ago, they all got ignored.
And Fox went up to all these 18- and 19-year-old Arrested development people that acted like they were 11, who screamed F-U and flipped the cameras off and acted like a bunch of monkeys, which was basically always their job.
We know in hindsight, back in the 60s and 70s, they would hire anti-war protesters to go into towns and break windows and cuss and yell to turn the people against the anti-war movement.
So, whether they're feds, whether they're paid, or not, that particular group that was on Fox News and CNN yesterday, they might as well be.
I mean, the worst possible image you could imagine Uh, these arrested development drug heads cussing and screaming at people, again, making the image of police in black uniforms and, uh, checkpoints and dogs and microwave guns and sound cannons look good, because after all, you know, now we've got these dangerous anarchists, uh, that are out there causing all these problems.
So I'm gonna let you get back to what you're doing in the next 10-15 minutes.
The next 10-15 minutes, uh, we will be down at the camp.
And I'll be calling in live via cell phone with audio backup.
I will have cameras rolling live and we'll be streaming over the web, Lord willing.
There's so many people using cell phones and these different wireless connections and sometimes it gets choked in the downtown, but we've got two different wireless cards.
So we'll try to get these reports out for you as well.
We're also going to stream live tonight.
I guess it's 7 or 8 o'clock.
It's kind of fluid at the big showing of Truth Rising at the...
jason bermas
The Oriental, I believe.
alex jones
Yeah, the Oriental Theater.
So that is coming up as well.
Again, I'm doing 50 things here in traffic, checkpoints, you name it.
In the next 10, 15, 20 minutes, we'll be calling in with a live transmission from the secret FEMA camp.
unidentified
Alright, there you have it.
jason bermas
Alex Jones live from the DNC on his way to the detention camps.
A complete police state down in Denver right now.
You can check it out live streaming at InfoWars.com.
The video will be broadcast shortly.
I'm Jason Bermas.
We'll be back after this.
unidentified
We'll be back after this.
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It's the Alex Jones Show.
They were just broadcasting live over at InfoWars.com.
They pulled the broadcast, but Alex is Shotgun, not even shotgun, really, riding right through everything.
I can't wait to see the footage.
They're going down to the DNC, checking out the detention camps, the total police state that they have put in place there.
It's just craziness.
Like you said, black helicopters, military is the police down there, checkpoints everywhere.
And the man still found a way to get a film crew down there, and he's going to be covering for it, covering it for you like no other.
And I'm just totally excited for him.
If I wasn't doing this right now, I would be there.
And just the fact that he's allowing me to do the show so much is really an honor.
I love getting up here for four hours and talking to you people, taking your calls, talking about the issues, the real issues, the issues that matter.
And I want to get back to this Obama-McCain-New York City deal.
Now this thing is going to be totally staged.
They are going to go through the questions with a fine-tooth comb beforehand.
I wonder if Biden is going to be their grandstanding.
I wonder if McCain will have picked his running mate by then.
I would assume so, since the RNC is coming up the week after the DNC.
I don't even know if it's a full week afterwards, but I think it's the weekend afterwards, actually.
That's when the Ron Paul event is going on and the other convention.
But these people are...
I'm sure it's going to be broadcast all over television.
It's going to be on every single major network.
And, uh, they're gonna tow the official party line.
I mean, John McCain is a master at towing the official party line.
I did like the look on his face when, uh, Luke Rudowsky confronts him.
And, uh, you can actually see him react when Luke says, Hey, wait a minute.
The 9-11 Commission said they were set up to fail themselves.
They said they were underfunded and that they were blocked in most of their, their, uh, investigation.
And McCain's eyes just light up.
Well, it looks like you got a good point there.
I'm just going to walk away.
You know?
Uh, McCain is so out of it that, you know, he's pulled up to 9-11 truthers and, to get a picture, seemingly investigating 9-11 science and still taking the picture.
This is the same guy that actually, uh, wrote the foreword to Popular Mechanic's Lie Fest, uh, debunking 9-11 myths.
Okay? Names, uh, loose change specifically.
And loose change was the, you know, topic of some of the, uh, the mainstream network's, you know, lie-a-thons, if you will.
After NIST came out with their report.
In fact, we're going to play that clip.
I'm going to get that up to John Harmon.
But basically, what happened was, you know, see, and it mystery solved.
Mystery solved.
We should play that earlier than Kevin Ryan because mystery solved.
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And no big deal.
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I mean, we're not going to let any real reporters ask any questions.
That's why when, uh, our guy...
Now, let me tell you about the motivation of some of these people, and I encourage these people to keep doing what they're doing.
This is what we need for InfoWarriors.
Somebody shows up to the office, says, hey, I really want to go to this.
I would really like to, uh, attend.
Can I get some press passes through you guys?
And we say, hey, you know, of course we'll support you in the press passes.
Give them a call, see what you can do.
So he calls up on behalf of InfoWars, gives them the office number.
They call back.
They say, is this guy for real?
And we go, oh yeah, he's for real.
The guy's pretty sympathetic on the phone.
Ben Stein.
Not THE Ben Stein, but Ben Stein was the contact information.
So this guy takes his own money.
Remember, we are a small operation.
We can't fund everything.
So he takes his own money.
He flies from here to Maryland to go there to ask a question, which does get covered by CNN for A split second, and they don't cover the fact that they turned the lights off on him.
Okay? They turned the lights off on the real questions.
Let's go over it again.
No science to these, uh, animation models.
Pure speculation.
They had to retract their statement that, uh, ten stories was scooped out of the building.
They said there was somewhat significant, but not as significant as they once thought.
They said, oh, You know, even without the damage, it would have come down from the fire.
Well, there was no massive damage.
It was just a complete and total hoax that they put on through Popular Mechanics Magazine, and it was the talking point of all these debunkers for the last two or three years.
Oh, a third of the building was scooped out.
A third of the building was scooped out.
Well, we showed in video evidence that a third of the building was not scooped out.
We have it in Fabled Enemies.
It's in Loose Change Final Cut as well.
I think it's described maybe a little bit better in Fabled Enemies.
But we literally have the South Face.
On video, we have people going in through the south face after at least one of the towers has collapsed.
And yeah, there's a couple broken out windows, and there's smoke coming from the building, but that's it.
No heavy fires.
It's just ludicrous to say that one of these beams detached on the 79th floor, they have no evidence for it, they just picked it out of the blue, and then animated something.
Applied no physics whatsoever.
Discredited explosives from the quote-unquote decibel levels on the tape.
You feel like you're being lied to?
Well, you are.
We're gonna play that CNN clip on the other side.
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I'm Jason Bermas filling in until Thursday as Alex brings you live coverage from the Democratic National Convention.
And they're not broadcasting right this second, but they will be.
They're on their way to the detention centers built for this event.
But as promised, we have Alan Watt of CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com.
Very educated, not only on the New World Order, but the esoteric symbols that we see in all of our lives.
Thanks for joining us, Alan.
alan watt
It's a pleasure to be here.
jason bermas
Alan, you know, just to kick it off, I kind of wanted to get your take on the Olympics.
You know, I watched a lot of the opening ceremony.
I saw how they blurred reality by putting in fake fireworks.
Obviously, they faked the little girl's voice.
But they made the image of God walking into the arena, basically.
They were putting off these fake fireworks of footprints, and then when it arrived, obviously there were these huge explosions, but then it goes right into a Chinese sundial.
And, you know, obviously everything was in Chinese, so I couldn't tell whether it was zodiac symbols or whatever, but I found it very interesting, and almost like the 36 Olympics in Berlin, when it was just such an obvious occultic ritual.
alan watt
Yeah. Well, it's always occultic rituals that they show us, and even the symbol that the Chinese gave us for this Olympic Games.
It looks kind of like a man, but it's actually a Chinese letter, which stands for the power, the sexual power of the male, basically.
But the one difference in it is that they cut off the penis, which was quite interesting in and of itself.
So they believe that the power comes from the kidney, even through, even for sexual potency, but they cut the penis of the man off, which is quite a telling statement.
jason bermas
Yeah, is that for their hermaphroditic androgynous symbolism?
alan watt
It's probably that, and there's no doubt about it.
I mean, China, every statistic they give you shows you that there's going to be 70% more males than females shortly, because they're doing away at birth with the female species.
And they're encouraging all kinds of alternate sexual release.
So, it's quite interesting.
jason bermas
Well, yeah.
I mean, on Friday I had somebody who was just so pro-China on.
It was unbelievable.
He was denying that they were taking the dissidents' organs and that, you know, China was this wonderland and, you know, all these things that were happening in the Eastern world are good.
And, of course, he was pro-world government at the end.
But, you know, I am not pro-world government.
I see a huge problem over in China with 1.2 billion people and having the military as the police.
I mean, there is no posse comitatus there.
You're guilty until proven innocent.
And although I've seen it geared towards a lot of Western things, you know, you've seen McDonald's, Coca-Cola come in there in the last 30 years and kind of westernize it.
You still have one-child policies and it's still acceptable, you know, that, you know, again, they're doing away with the female population.
You want a boy.
Which just doesn't seem normal to me.
Do you think that they're putting China out of...
Why do you think they're bringing China out on the world stage in this level?
alan watt
Because China, as the United Nations has stated already, because of its collectivist system, which is what the whole world is to become, China is the model state which we will all emulate.
That's why the United Nations has stated that a few times.
jason bermas
And that seems to fit.
I mean, it is a total police state there, and there is the slightest veil of You know, freedom under this dictatorship.
But at the same time, you know, again, our laws and our constitution and our Bill of Rights have been eviscerated so much that they become more and more like China's policies every day.
And I do see us gearing, you know, kind of coming towards one another.
They get westernized.
We take, you know, easternization, at least in our police measures, our military measures.
And that's very, very scary to me that now, you know, in front of the whole world, China has been like I don't think so.
alan watt
To be honest with you, we created, the West created Red China.
We funded them into existence.
Bertrand Russell was sent over the 1920s to introduce communistic ideas in the universities, and he wrote about that and stated that in those words, in his own memoirs.
He was one of many who was sent over.
And then we found in the 70s and 80s, with the 80s and 90s, you had the GATT treaties and so on.
Which allowed Western corporations, factories to be shipped over wholesale to China to set up China as the manufacturer for the whole planet.
So we funded China into existence.
We don't have nations.
We have a facade of nations.
But everyone at the top of all the countries for a long time now, these dynasties, these family dynasties, have been international.
And they have sewn up the world's economy into an international scale so much like a web.
You can't separate the countries anymore.
You have a handful of people, maybe 20 or up to 200 families who invest every day in the stock market, in the billions, and they can create or destroy countries overnight.
So we're all tied together.
We are interdependent financially.
And so China is only part of this.
If you go into the records of the Royal Institute for International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations, which is the same organization, From the 1930s, they talked about building China up to be the superpower that would eventually take over towards the end of the millennium into the new millennium, the role of world police after the US falters and is exhausted.
And that's what we're seeing today.
The US is doing its final push, and it will falter financially and so on and sink back.
And China is to take over.
jason bermas
Arnold Toynbee, that was the top I don't Yesterday.
Now, sure, it's awful that the employees in the Canadian Walmarts and the American Walmarts, that they're paid, you know, between $6, $8, maybe $10 an hour.
They don't get overtime.
There's no benefits.
That's awful, okay?
But what's even worse are the Chinese slave shops, where literal families spend nights in their Walmart dorms.
They live in the factory.
They're charged rent from the factory.
And even if they decide not to live there, they still have to pay for that room.
I think it's something like half the cost.
I believe It's not far, and here's how it works.
alan watt
You see, a hundred odd years ago, 150 years ago, when they set up the big foundations, That was to take over this new role of what they call governance, global governance.
They said that the duty, and this is in the Council on Foreign Relations' own mandate, they say that they're creating a world state where everyone will serve the state.
Now, when you look at the communist system, they're under the same facade as everyone worked for the state.
Now, in the Western idea, We, as camouflaged, you have the big international corporations, the Walmarts and so on, and technically they're producing, or they're, they give out all the stuff that we need.
So, technically, they're part of the big factory system, and we will all eventually serve the state, and all these big corporations, technically, are getting put over on us as being our benefactors.
They're part of our system, our global system.
we need them.
Therefore, we will serve them.
And therefore, we've all been reduced down to the common denominator as working for the state.
And those corporations will come under that facade.
Under the communist system, technically, again, it's all technically or appearance-wise, everything was owned by the state, the means of production and the outlets.
And the Western system has camouflaged the outlets and the means of production are in the hands of a few families, basically.
And we've all deserved that system.
The Council or the Club of Rome stated that they'd looked at all the different systems the world had.
And the one that was most efficient for their needs, for their use, in their view, was collectivism.
And that falls right in with the Cecil Rhodes Foundation, which created the role of international affairs in the Council on Foreign Relations, where everyone would live in a collectivist society with a ruling class of elite intellectuals at the top and aristocracy.
And the masses would be run on a communistic type system.
And their one duty would be to serve the world state.
That's what we're seeing.
And all of the means of production, and the outlets for production are in international hands, a few hands.
They're all part of this collectivist system.
That's why we're getting reduced with our wages and so on, down to the lowest common denominator.
jason bermas
And I also want to point out that our economy is being gutted here, and a lot of the money that we're borrowing from, the majority of the money in fact, is from the Chinese.
So if they call in their debt, I mean, God knows what happened.
Again, I want to warn people that our economy is about to falter, all these military conflicts Are just helping it and I mean, when do you see this happening?
Obviously, the United States seems to be trying to prolong their power by having Georgia invade South Ossetia with NATO forces, you know, surrounding Russia trying to coax Russia into a large-scale attack.
They've already fooled most of this country into believing the bear is back.
And that they, you know, attacked with no reason on South Ossetia when we know very, very different.
Is this what they're trying to do?
Are they trying to bring in a military conflict to bring in the end of the United States?
Or do you think that they're just going to drop the economy all at once?
alan watt
Well, again, they did, you know, through the big think tanks.
And the top think tanks for planning future strategy to attain this world system is the Club of Rome and their book, The First Global Revolution.
written by the two founders who are completely interlaced with all the other big foundations, by the way.
They all work together.
But the Club of Rome stated that they'd have to create a war situation, a prolonged war situation, because they could ramp their agenda through under the guise of war, because the public go along with it.
We take rationing, we take ID cards, we take uh...
limited travel all the things that come up come from war and that's why at after nine eleven it was stated this is going to be a hundred years war at the change all of society like carl quigley said that's what war's main function is is to create to change uh...
culture and society because government departments can multiply uh...
like cancers and take over all the functions of the citizens normally do themselves they take the power from the citizen under war And this is a war to change the entire planet.
It's not just the U.S. The U.S. has its role in it.
Its role is to bring it in, and once it's exhausted itself financially and through manpower and so on, it's to submerge, and then China is to take over.
It's so amazing to realize that China was a main enemy.
Communism, supposedly, was the antithesis of capitalism.
That's what the public were taught.
It's not true, because capitalism Thank you.
Individuality is destroyed under communist systems, and they wanted to bring the same system to the West and manage the whole planet in that way.
It's been very successful.
Individuality is frowned upon today.
In fact, you're down as a potential terrorist if you're an individual.
And they're teaching collectivism in the schools already, so that this generation growing up in the school system will merge easily with the communist-type system of China and the old Soviet-type union.
jason bermas
Well, let me give an example of that, actually, again with the Olympics.
I downloaded, because I missed it, the Australian feed of the Olympics, and it opens up with a young uh...
chinese boy talking about you know one world and then an australian girl coming on and saying one world together and then they're both on screen together and they're hugging and embracing and you know we can make this one world it's much like obama goes all the way to berlin to give his new world order speech where he talks about global citizenship and the fact that we will be are required to do more not less in the future as a global citizen you realize that folks are a lot of people out there i used to be one of them who works sixty plus hours a week how much more they expect Mm-hmm.
alan watt
What they mean by that is your life is dedicated to serving the world state.
That's what they mean by that.
That's put implicitly in the mandate from the Council on Foreign Relations and the Relationship for International Affairs.
Every citizen, in fact, you won't get born unless they have a duty for you to fulfill.
That's also in their mandate.
It's a controlled society.
It's global family planning on a large scale, and it's been taught.
It has been taught in the school for the last 15, 20 years.
Now it's on a roll.
They're really indoctrinating the ones even in kindergarten for the world they're going to grow up into.
So this is a scientific indoctrination planned for the next 20, 30, 40, 50 years.
jason bermas
I couldn't agree with you more, and really it is quite frightening.
A lot of the people that I went to high school and college with did end up becoming teachers in middle and grade school.
And, uh, you know, they just tell me these horror stories.
My one friend, Matt, was like, you know, he walked in one day and they literally had DNA swab kits for his kids.
No, uh, permission slips.
No one told the parents.
And he was expected to administer these to the children.
He said, look, I'm not giving these to my kids until I see a permission slip.
And I know that all the parents were called.
This is insane.
Another example of the surveillance society that we live in is my friend Amy.
She was teaching a fifth grade class and she also happened to be coaching softball.
She'd often go to her classroom after school to change.
And she was in there with her mother and her sister.
Her mom was the school nurse.
And they were cleaning up and they noticed in the center column, usually where the outlets are plugged in, there was a dummy spot.
And in the dummy spot was actually a hidden camera.
She got worried.
She couldn't believe what she had seen.
She put a post-it over it, and she went away.
It was on a Friday.
She came back Monday to school, took the post-it off, and magically the camera was gone.
Now, she didn't want to be accused of paranoia, so she went down to the superintendent's office, and she said, look, we saw a camera there.
I put a post-it over it.
My mother can verify it.
And the message is loud and clear for those who don't quite get it.
alan watt
The elite claim that they own us.
Now, lots of people in a socialized system are quite content being owned, as long as they can go and play.
But the playing is going to stop one day, and they're all going to freak out.
And that's why they've built up internal armies to take care of the fallout when it all comes out in the open.
But that's what the statement is.
You are owned.
You have no rights.
And the only way you can get your rights is to, first of all, and I'd really like the people to try this, try and be really indignant once in a while.
Just start with being indignant when you've been frisked or told to bend over or have little Johnny give his fingerprints at school or wherever else it happens to be.
Start with indignancy because your ancestors fought battle after battle after battle to have the right to be free so that they were not owned by the king.
And here we are, right back in the same place, and the people don't recognize it because they can still go out and play at the moment.
jason bermas
Well, they're too busy sucking down Jenny Light, getting home from work, watching their sports team, only to cuddle up at night and watch American Idol, which is just this total blasé mesmerization of the American populace.
We're with Alan Watt of CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com.
I'm Jason Bermas, in for Alex Jones.
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We're with Alan Watt of CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com.
Alex's live video feed is now up over at Infowars.com as they pass the DNC detention center.
He's going to be joining us shortly, and we're going to be taking your calls in this last half an hour with Alan Watt.
Alan, you've dropped some serious names and organizations.
One of them I wanted to talk about was Carol Quigley, who was kind of in on it.
I mean, he was part of the elite crowd.
They let him look at their documents, Cecil Rhodes and the Roundtable Group.
And he came out with a book called Tragedy and Hope, in which he described these guys as plans for world government.
And he wasn't down with all the means, but he was down with the end.
So he promoted it.
And of course, this guy was also, you know, Clinton was his protege.
And he talked about him in his inauguration speech and other speeches about Carol Quigley.
So, of course, Clinton is part of this group.
Of course, Bush is part of this group.
But I kind of want you to touch on the founding of the Council on Foreign Relations because, of course, you know, Obama speaks at the CFR.
His wife is a member of the CFR.
And they just picked good old boy Joe Biden, who is another CFR member, to run as the VP nominee.
alan watt
Well, the CFR is just the wing of the foundation that Cecil Rhodes began.
The Cecil Rhodes Foundation merged with the Milner Foundation, and they created the Royal Institute for International Affairs.
And in the 1920s, they opened their American branch.
They couldn't call it the Royal Institute, so they called it the Council on Foreign Relations.
It's one and the same thing.
It's the same organization.
And their goal from Cecil Rhodes and Milner through the Royal Institute of International Affairs has always been to create a world governmental system where the eugenic superiors would run the world.
A scientific elite would help the aristocracy.
run us all in a collectivist system.
And they state right on their mandate that everyone's duty will be to serve the world state, to serve the world state.
That will be your purpose in life.
jason bermas
It's unbelievable, and we're seeing more and more in that technology come out.
And instead of being used to free us as human beings, it really is being used to enslave us as human beings.
And, you know, some of these examples that I'd like to give out are these iPhones.
All right, they track and trace you.
AT&T was caught with the secret room.
There's nothing we can do about it, apparently.
National security is called.
We appeal that in a federal court and try to sue them, you know, not through federal court but through a regular court.
And they throw it out as well.
These guys are all protected under the National Security Act.
It makes me sick.
Meanwhile...
There's this guy out in Erie, Pennsylvania that not only cured his cancer with radio fields and precious metals, basically injecting himself with nanoparticles of gold and then running himself through these radio waves that kills the cancer, but he also found a way to make saltwater burn.
Now that's saltwater, folks.
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He literally has it burning at 1500 degrees centigrade Yeah, you're supposed to be interdependent.
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Independent is taboo.
It's forbidden.
Interdependence is the mandate for the world.
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
I am Jason Burmess, holding down the command center over in Austin.
Now, right now, we've got Alan Waugh on the line from CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com.
And we got a few callers, Roy, Scott, Jeff, and more.
And we're going to go to them into the next segment, but right now we're going to cut for about two minutes to this live coverage of the DNC that you can only see at InfoWars.com.
All right, let's go there.
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They've been piling out of this particular Baptist church vans all day.
They've also got things marked as food services, a lot of other things.
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Unfortunately, folks, he's on a cell phone, so he may be breaking up in and out.
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A week and a half ago, the news media was able to just, local CBS and NBC, were able to just walk in here.
But they've got it blocked off now.
But we've had police just swarming us all over the place.
See, and this is strategically located Folks, there is a large train station.
jason bermas
We're going to go back to Alex in a little while, but again, I want to take this opportunity because I don't get to talk to Alan Watt much.
This is my first interview with him, and I really became aware of your work, Alan.
I think it was winter of this year, somebody passed along some of the Cutting Through the Matrix MP3s and whatnot, and we were listening to them out in Naples, California, and you definitely have a unique perspective.
You're well-spoken, and you're a breath of fresh air, in my opinion.
in this movement because you're not somebody who tears other people down you really are just looking at this system of control and trying to expose others to it.
alan watt
Yeah, it's so old and Quigley himself in his other big book which is worth reading it's called the Anglo-American Establishment he claims that this particular group that makes your policy the Council of Foreign Relations has so many members in the US government And outside of the U.S. government and all through the bureaucracies of Washington, D.C., they create the policy for the United States.
And he says they've been behind all major wars for the last couple of hundred years, this particular group, Anglo-American group, that went through different societies, into the Cecil Rhodes Group, into the Council on Foreign Relations, and it's the same bunch that are running this show.
And their policy has always been to create a world governmental system Which is efficient for them to rule over.
And to do so, they must abolish, as they say, the main culprit, which is individuality, and make it a collectivist-type society.
That has been also behind the push for eugenics, and for literally removing certain genes, and...
jason bermas
Alright, Alan, I gotta interrupt you, just because Alex is talking to somebody on the video.
Let's cut to that really quick, John.
alex jones
And we're live-streaming still.
Excellent. Guys, are you there?
jason bermas
Yeah, we're here.
What's up, Alex?
alex jones
Okay, here comes a police van right here.
In there, inside the FEMA camp.
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Hey, I just saw...
alex jones
Hey, you waved at us.
jason bermas
Yeah, I just saw you talk to somebody in a van, correct?
alex jones
Yes, yes, we just talked to...
because it's a giant, like, half-mile-long warehouse, and there's still some...
I tell the media's gone in here.
And there we have one of the spooks just drive by.
Show great interest in us.
We're gonna go ahead and just go inside.
Here we go.
Going into Mordor.
jason bermas
Excellent, Alex.
And again, you can watch this live video feed over at Infowars.com.
If you can't get it to boot up, you just have to do a little bit of refreshing.
And this is really going to be real guerrilla journalism all week.
And then on Friday, we're going to wrap up the highlights.
This is groundbreaking, Alex.
I mean, we continue to break new ground every day in this InfoWar.
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And I just appreciate the great report that you're engaged in.
And I'm sorry to the guests this week, but all week they're going to be preempted and moved around.
I appreciate all the lobbying on the show.
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Absolutely. We'll be back with Alan Watt, Callers, and Alex Jones.
It is The Alex Jones Show.
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tom brokaw
Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
unidentified
The enemy struck America on September 11th.
But who is the enemy?
Bin Laden.
This is his ammo.
We have to look to the Middle East.
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
brit hume
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
jason bermas
Alright, folks, we are back at the Alex Jones Show.
Alex is live from the DNC.
We are with Alan Watt of CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com.
We're going to get back to Alan and your phone calls in just a moment, but we are going to go live to Alex, who on Justin.tv, you go to Infowars.com, it's embedded there, you can see the police officers.
He has just entered the facility in which they are detaining people unlawfully for protesting.
So let's go to that feed.
alex jones
You got me?
jason bermas
We gotcha.
alex jones
Okay, Bernie, you just keep talking, filling in things while I'm not talking.
I appreciate you and everybody else we are around.
80 yards, 60 yards from one of the little private prisons and the police have taken an interest in us.
So we're going to walk up and talk to them right now.
jason bermas
Yeah, I saw that.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen.
jason bermas
This is amazing.
It's absolutely cutting-edge broadcast journalism.
We're watching it live on the air.
Of course, Rob and Aaron and Richard Reed are doing a great job giving us all this info on video.
alex jones
Why would they keep this secret?
Why wouldn't they just admit what they were doing?
I was just kept secret.
Come on, guys.
jason bermas
As they approach, I can tell you that there's two large buses that look like they're there to detain people, and I guess those are the, uh, vans that they're gonna round people up to process them at this facility, correct?
unidentified
Well, he can't really- Well, leave their air conditioners to camp!
alex jones
They didn't- It wasn't gonna be air conditioned before.
They also removed the barbed wire and the sign that said electroshock.
Once the public found out about this, they put air conditioning in last week, removed the confettino wire on top of fences inside, and removed the signs that said electroshock devices in use.
unidentified
It was meant to terrify and terrorize people when they came into the camp.
jason bermas
Very interesting stuff, and he just showed you, um, the separate air conditioning facilities.
They look like they're mobile air conditioning facilities, as this is a mobile prison.
Remember, these are makeshift prisons to make sure that dissent isn't out of control.
Here we go.
alex jones
How are you guys doing?
jason bermas
Alex is approaching the police officers.
unidentified
What is this?
jason bermas
We got about five cops there.
unidentified
Okay.
jason bermas
It's hard to see what's going on.
alex jones
Denver County or City Jail after?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Why was this secret at first?
alex jones
Okay, thank you.
Thank you, guys.
Beautiful day, huh?
jason bermas
Oh, Alex and his charm.
unidentified
Absolutely amazing.
alex jones
Thank you, officer.
Can we have that number?
unidentified
Thank you.
jason bermas
And it looks like they have to leave.
unidentified
Look at how gorgeous these mountains are.
Just look at those clouds.
alex jones
I wish I was up in those mountains hiking right now.
unidentified
Instead of doing this, I think it's probably just a slide.
alex jones
Yeah, overlooking the camp.
unidentified
Here, let me see.
Overlooking the camp is some of the most beautiful scenery.
alex jones
The Rocky Mountains are off in the distance.
unidentified
And here you have all of this.
jason bermas
And you can take Alex's word for it.
Let's go back to Alan Watt.
But yeah, it is gorgeous there.
I've been out to Colorado.
The scenery is amazing.
Alex just talking to some of the police officers outside of this makeshift detention center, and Alan, they really drilled it up for this in the months coming.
I mean, they literally had black helicopters flying around, they broke out the microwave weapons, they even pamphleted the city with wrapped up American flags with orange light sticks and a little propaganda card as well.
So it's pretty outrageous the amount of preparation they've done for this event.
alan watt
Yeah, it is too.
It's also a way of getting the public used to this.
It's a psychic form of separating them from the people and putting a barrier between you.
Psychologically, subconsciously, you start to accept that's the natural order of things from now on.
And so the more that they do this, the more we'll get used to it and accept it.
That we're being ruled.
See, it's all to do with making you accept that you're being ruled, not really governed by elected people, but ruled by people who are chosen by an intellectual group above you.
That is what they call the natural order.
And it's true enough, they do give us the candidates to vote for.
The candidates are always hand-picked, as Carl Quigley said, because either they belong to the Council on Foreign Relations, or they have been in it, Or their wives are.
And in fact, I think even Obama's wife is in the Council on Foreign Relations.
So they're all connected to the same society.
jason bermas
Absolutely. It is total and complete acclamation of the population to be ruled by a global elite in the backdrop.
I mean, we are just so brainwashed and mesmerized.
Most people have no idea that there's even three branches of government, Alan.
They couldn't tell you that there's like, you know, supposed to be checks and balances.
That's why we have the legislative, the executive branch.
I mean, again, these They're there for us, but we don't know how to use them.
We don't know about the judicial branch in this country.
Just are so far gone, they think that these people on the television are there to tell them how to live and what to do and fix their problems.
They have no idea about this housing crisis.
They don't know what they're going to do when their banks falter.
I mean, we are in some real trouble in this country as banks start to go under, as houses are foreclosed on, as people are no longer going to live in this cushy society, which they have in the last 20 years, which has really made them blind to all these problems.
alan watt
Yes, and again, even the Council on Foreign Relations' own magazine, they put their own magazine out every month that gives you their long-term agenda.
And I think 20-odd years ago, they stated in one of them that the U.S. Constitution was such a nuisance, it was always in the way of this big plan, so they'd have to do an end-run around it.
In other words, through tradition, through gradual acceptance, Um, you won't need it anymore, and that's how you sort of gradually think about it in your mind if you thought about it at all.
You don't really need it anymore.
Things have changed.
Well, it was the only protection that you had to keep your sovereignty, and the whole idea was to demolish sovereignty.
And all of these characters that are presented for you to vote for are complete globalists in their makeup, their psychological makeup, and in their family traditions.
they're interwoven internationally with their own investments in fact and their own families are too they're all internationalists and carl quigley said it doesn't matter if there's republican elite at the top or the ones in the democrats he says it says they're always picked by the council and foreign relations and all you have to do is have your presidents and your advisors in the council and foreign relations the rest of the lesser politicians can have a form of competition between them but it doesn't matter the ones that the
The top always belong to the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission.
jason bermas
Absolutely. Let's cut back to Alex.
He just showed a shot inside one of these makeshift prisons where they literally had the Statue of Liberty, another hermaphroditic Illuminati symbol, actually.
But let's cut back to Alex right now.
alex jones
Yelling, screaming, cussing.
Fox News yesterday only went to the bad protests.
Only went to one little group of young people going, F you!
unidentified
Screw you!
alex jones
Ah! You know, looking like total scum.
Instead of all the women with baby strollers and the nice families.
This is how they demonize anti-war folks.
We're here at the DNC because the Democrats obviously swept into office almost two years ago in the Congress and the House and Senate to supposedly end the war.
You got over 90% of Democrats wanting to end the war.
About 65% of Republicans wanting to end the war.
unidentified
The vast majority of the American people, close to 80%, but it doesn't end.
alex jones
So that's why they're putting this police state into place, because they know it's All of these are used as drills, as training.
They admit they are.
We get them better and better at controlling populations.
I am just so angry we didn't show up five minutes earlier because we showed up here and the microwave gun was being wheeled out and I saw it.
I saw it.
It had the jack so they could jack it up.
It had the control system.
It's exactly what we saw in 60 minutes.
Rob, come over here.
Which one of you?
I want to get Rob on camera.
Rob, tell folks what you saw.
Did you get it on video?
See it's on this camera.
unidentified
As I saw the camera around, the car was moving.
alex jones
They came out, we're going this way, we were going that way.
marty schachter
So it was the vehicle.
unidentified
So I might have caught, like, on the corner of the screen, maybe half the fucking up it.
luke rudkowski
But I did see it.
unidentified
Like, by the time my brain was like, you've got to hold the camera.
jason bermas
Alright, let's let Alex go, we'll go right back to him.
Again, they're still right on the scene at that detention center.
Let's take some of your callers Calls for Alan Watt right now.
Let's go to Roy in Missouri.
Roy, what's on your mind?
Are you there, Roy?
All right.
If Roy dropped, let's go to Scott.
Oh, you're there.
Okay. What's on your mind, Roy?
unidentified
Hey. Anyway, what I was going to get out of here was that it seems to me that the resolution to our problems have already been clearly defined in 1776.
Which is, in the Declaration of Independence, it says it's our duty to throw off this government.
jason bermas
Well, absolutely.
I mean, that's why the Second Amendment's there, is that if this government ever gets out of control, the people are there to overthrow it violently if necessary.
I mean, I agree with you there.
I mean, absolutely.
I just don't see people attempting to do so, not even peacefully, because they're just not in tune with the issues, Roy.
unidentified
I'm curious about more than anything, maybe somebody can tell me, is that...
To properly do this, wouldn't we have to have, like, a representative from each state, you know, sign, like, a minorly rewritten Declaration of Independence to be produced to, like, Congress?
jason bermas
Well, let's ask Alan Watt.
Roy, thanks for the call.
What do you think, Alan?
alan watt
Well, it is true.
That's why, you see, that's why it has taken so long to brainwash the American public and to Basically amnesia, a state of amnesia.
You must create amnesia in psychological warfare and lack of will as well.
It's another factor that comes into it.
You do that by socialization and entertainment and keeping them busy with other things so they're not involved in their own self-determination.
So that has been a long psychological war that's helped this to happen.
It's only at the beginning, when you see it beginning to happen, that you can actually take it into your own hands and do something about it, because you still have the will, you still have the memory of what you're wanting to retain, and why you fought in the first place to try and get those rights.
That's gone with the general public.
Lincoln did state, though, that any one of the states, and so did Franklin, too, that wanted to withdraw from this confederation had the right to do so.
jason bermas
Yeah, I'm with you.
Apathy has taken over in this country, and it is very, very unfortunate to do something.
The people must have the will again.
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Alright folks, we're back again.
It is the Alex Jones Show.
I'm Jason Bermas filling in while he's down at the DNC detention camps right now.
We've got Alan Watt of cunningthroughthematrix.com.
We're taking your calls.
And we're going live to Alex Jones right now.
Let's see if Alex is on the line.
Alex, are you with us?
alex jones
They've cordoned it all off.
They basically tell us they're going to arrest us if we touch the police line or get involved in it in any way.
Let's go around the back and try to walk down there.
I just want to thank the great team.
I want to thank Bob up there at the office, one of my new IT guys.
I want to thank the other people.
I want to thank Trey, Kincaid, our producer.
I want to thank the GCN Radio Network, Jason Bermas, and all you the viewers out there for making this trip possible.
We left Saturday afternoon, drove in yesterday afternoon to Denver.
We left Texas, went to New Mexico up here.
And again, this is where the shadow government's really based.
Colorado's where the real government is sort of building the shadow government, the underground cities, the Adam and Eve facilities.
In 1947, when the government went underground, it was completely handed over to the foreign private banks.
And now, with NORTHCOM designating the United States as a theater of operations, we are literally living in a military coup, a military grid.
But it's high-tech, they're federalizing their local police, the feds paid for this secret prison, they lied about it so it didn't exist.
Again, what are local police doing running secret prisons?
What are they doing running secret facilities?
Why did they lie about that?
jason bermas
Why did they do that?
Alright, let's go back to Alan Locke, because I want to get his take on these underground cities over in Denver, Colorado.
For those that don't know, the Denver International Airport is just full of gargoyles, occultic paintings, sickles, hammers, all sorts of Weird symbolism, and like Alex just said, you know, this seems to be the home of the shadow government.
And the CIA, I think, is moving in one of their bases there.
It's going to be larger than the one in Virginia.
So this is a hub for this, quote-unquote, New World Order, isn't it, Alan?
alan watt
There's no doubt.
They've been setting this up for a long time.
That's part of this era we're going through.
They envisaged this time would come when it'd have to push with military might to take over.
The whole planet and the mind of every person as well.
And so they knew they'd have to start building up internal police forces, really militaries, to deal with the fallout when the public start to have their toys and their goodies taken away from them, and their economy is gradually basically inflated out of sight.
They're told money is worth nothing.
So they've been preparing for this for many, many, many years.
Uh, they're preparing for their own continuity of government as well.
They have bases for the United States, not only in the U.S., they have ones in Australia they've been building for 20 years for continuity of government, in case they have to move to Australia.
So, this is an international elite, remember, and the world is their playground, and they rule over us, even when they keep us under the illusions occasionally, when it suits them to bestow national sovereignties.
jason bermas
Let's go to Scott in Arizona.
Scott, what's on your mind?
unidentified
Hey, Jason.
One of my questions that I have for you is the 80% population reduction down to 500 million.
They've got to do this sometime soon.
I don't think they're going to hold off for many years to make that to happen.
The only way they can get this military where they're going to scrounge up in the camps is they're going to have to unleash some kind of bioterrorism on us.
jason bermas
Well, you know, I've heard that, you know, they possibly may use Codex Alimentarius, which is a food regulation to just, you know, basically make the population so sick because they don't have the proper nutrients that they will die on their own.
I thank you for the call.
What's your take on that, Alan?
alan watt
Well, people, I see people have already been dying on mass.
It's not all together at the same time, but we've been dying, increasing in numbers with the Pre-aging diseases for the last 30 years and it's escalating.
There's never been a time when there's so many tumors of all kinds hitting younger people, not just from the cell phones but from other means as well.
They've also denaturalized your food until there's hardly anything in it worth eating and they just two days ago passed a law in the U.S. that they can irradiate your vegetables as well to make sure that there's nothing worth eating.
The only thing that's worth eating, probably, is the E. coli, because it's the only source of protein left.
So, I'm not kidding you, they're basically making us so unhealthy and so unfit, which falls into the whole plan, because we have poor nourishment, poor nutrients, like Malthus said, the people can't think too swiftly, they're more obedient to do what they're told, they're always lethargic.
that falls right in with the line again of what they want to do.
Plus, the weakened immune systems make them wide open to die off from even simple viruses or bacterium, which normally would not affect them.
jason bermas
Absolutely. Alan, you are just a great guest.
We hope to have you on soon.
I hope to have you on maybe again this week.
It's Alan Watt, CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com.
We're going to be back with Alex Jones from the DNC and Marty the Soapman Shackler.
I'm Jason Bermas.
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Can we pull up that Alex Jones?
I don't know if you guys heard me.
unidentified
How's this going?
It's going well.
We've been up ever since we started a little while ago.
alex jones
I guess about 20 or 30 minutes.
unidentified
Got the camera exposure adjusted.
alex jones
Give me your analysis of what's happened since we left Austin Saturday afternoon.
We got prisoners.
Stand by.
We got prisoners.
unidentified
That guy in the Miata's intelligence bureau, he must have been spying.
He's going to file a report.
And what we're looking at here are, you know, the tensions.
alex jones
Sorry about the shaking.
We're about 300 yards away, folks.
God, I wish I had a tripod.
We should have brought a tripod.
unidentified
Bad call I made not getting a tripod out here.
jason bermas
Alex is always the biggest critic of himself.
All right, we're going to cut back to Alex.
As soon as we see any kind of action, we see a couple people being detained, but right now we have Marty the Soapman Schachter, and he has some great products of Cal Bend soap.
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Marty, are you with us?
marty schachter
Can you make your volume higher?
jason bermas
Yeah, I can try to have the GCN guys turn up the volume on their end.
Done. Can you hear me a little bit better now?
marty schachter
Barely hear you.
jason bermas
You can still barely hear me, Marty?
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jason bermas
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Absolutely, and they can buy this in bulk and really save about two-thirds to three Well, that's what I want to go over.
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It's unbelievable, and this stuff is non-toxic.
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And you know, I came out here, I washed my clothes for the first time, And I started getting itchy.
You get that sometimes when you use these detergents that they sell at the supermarket.
You don't get that when you go to 5starsoap.com, do you?
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Now why table salt?
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Would you wash your face?
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unidentified
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Well, I'm with you 100%, and it is an exciting product, and again, I mean, if you really look at the cost, it's only about $450.
You said that's less than some people's rent.
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jason bermas
Yeah, and that's for a five-year supply.
You're talking about something, you know, you spend that on rent a month.
It's pretty wild that you're able to get that much of a supply.
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And that's for a family too, isn't it Marty?
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marty schachter
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jason bermas
So if you're single, you're talking about, or you just have a girlfriend, you're talking about a 10-year supply for $450.
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That should be pretty exciting, but I'm telling you folks, the bar soap, the shampoo, it's amazing.
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And, uh, you're gonna want something that's healthy for you and your family.
I mean, if you have children, this should be a no-brainer, shouldn't it, Marty?
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At the DNC.
They're looking at one of the detention buses.
alex jones
Mass arrest forms in there.
unidentified
There's the diamond grip examination gloves.
Don't get too close.
Don't touch it.
alex jones
Don't touch it, Richard.
It looks like you're getting up close to it.
They're gonna misconstrue that.
Just come on over by me.
unidentified
Watch out, Richard.
alex jones
I know that cord gets in your way.
unidentified
Good job.
jason bermas
And there they are, folks, right outside of the detention buses.
alex jones
Let's go ahead and go.
jason bermas
Now being approached by the police officers.
Let's see what they have to say.
Just incredible footage live from the detention camps at the DNC.
Alex Jones, Rob Jacobson, Aaron Dykes, Richard Reeves doing an incredible job for the InfoWars team.
Alright, let's cut back to Marty Schachter.
And you can get all this great stuff at 5starsoap.com.
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jason bermas
Absolutely. If I may.
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the blood and keep it free of sludge and mud but now they tell us fuddled folks that fatty foods help ward off strokes the paradox has come to grips eat aspirin with potato chips ha ha ha ha Oh, Marty, always the showman.
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It's 5starsoap.com.
Thank you so much for joining us, Marty.
You are the man, and you have a great product.
marty schachter
Pleasure talking to you.
I appreciate that very much.
jason bermas
No problem.
We'll be back with more of Alex at the DNC and me, Jason Bermas.
It's InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
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No rest for the wicked, folks.
It's the Alex Jones Show.
I'm Jason Bermas, and Alex is out at the DNC right now.
And he was talking to a couple people by this makeshift detention center who were very well aware of provocatoring of state-sponsored tariff.
It says it's not broadcasting now.
I'm not sure if it is.
If it is, can we go to it, John?
It did cut out.
All right, it cut out on you too.
I think that actually their laptop power is done.
unidentified
So hopefully they'll be rebroadcasting after they power up that laptop.
jason bermas
And we will have more from you, or perhaps Alex will call in himself.
Well, let's take this opportunity to get to some of the other callers that have been holding on patiently for quite some time.
Now, let's go to Derek in Texas.
unidentified
derrick what's on your mind jason thanks for having me on sure uh... started a campaign of a couple years ago actually getting the truth out on national radio syndicated radio if the audience is aware each thirty seconds on the national syndicated show It's about three or four thousand dollars in advertising about, you know, money.
And I would like everyone that's listening to this show, because this show tends to be activists, to just take time out of your week to make one call to Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Medved, whatever.
Go in on the topic that they're talking about and immediately go to the NIST report.
Immediately go to the 9-11 commission report or whatever your particular item is.
And Jason, since you're now on talk radio, give your me or other listeners You got it.
jason bermas
Thanks for the call, man.
All right, Derek, this is what I would do.
First of all, you bring up the Molten Medal as fact, and you say, Uh, what do you have to say about the molten metal that was both taped on the scene of the World Trade Center collapse and then found in the days after under World Trade Centers 1, 2, 6, and 7?
Uh, this was denied by John Gross of NIST, but has been confirmed by the NASA thermal imagery.
And cut.
That is one of the many things that I would use.
I would also probably use the stance that NIST has retracted, that they had video and photographs no one else had, that suggested that one-third of the lower south face was scooped out, or one-fourth of the entire building, ten to twelve stories.
I would ask their opinion on that.
I would ask what their opinion is on the animations that they made from the blueprints, and the fact that they did no scientific analysis to actually Uh, inject those beams with the, uh, proper physics.
In other words, they should have certain physical properties.
They did no such thing.
They just animated what they felt happened.
So, those are three quick points.
Um, I mean, you gotta be quick on your feet.
You gotta be well-educated on the matter.
I'm not sure everybody should be calling up these shows, because some people just don't know how to talk.
But if you are a gabber like myself, or you do know what's going on, Derek's got a great idea.
I mean, uh, you know, John, uh, I'm sorry, Mark Dice, Formerly known as John Connor, he's calling for everyone to do this on September 11th, and I think we do.
I think 9-11 Truth has to have a huge showing nationwide, especially calling into national radio shows like Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, Gibson, all these, you know, right-wing neocons, neo-Nazis really, that continue to Hide the truth and misconstrue the truth and basically string along these zombified audiences that are like, Let's bomb the Middle East into a glass parking lot!
Let's take over Russia!
We can do it!
We're number one!
Woo! We need to, uh...
We need to get rid of that ignorant mentality.
Alright, let's go to Joe in Pennsylvania.
Joe, are you with us?
unidentified
Yeah, hey, what's up, Jason?
First, I wanted to say thank you for not...
for, uh...
Loose change, that is what woke me up.
I'd like to touch on what Scott was saying in Arizona.
jason bermas
Alright, we'll come back to you on the other side.
This is the Alex Jones Show.
We'll have Bob Chapman as well, and we'll come back to Joe in Pennsylvania.
Remember, you can get Fabled Enemies over at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.tv right now.
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jason bermas
And hopefully Alex will be joining us on the phone sometime soon.
We have Bob Chapman coming up on hold right now.
But let's go back to Joe in Pennsylvania and give him his say.
How you doing, Joe?
unidentified
Oh, pretty good.
I just wanted to touch on what Scott in Arizona was saying.
From all the research I've been doing over the past few months, it looks like our time is short.
I think they're going to probably use this Russia-Georgia thing to actually stage their next false start.
That's flag attack here on our soil.
That's what it looks like to me.
jason bermas
So you think that the new terrorists are going to be white, is what you're saying?
unidentified
Well, the old ones were, weren't they?
jason bermas
Well, not publicly, but now the Simon Wiesenthal Center is presenting these blonde blue-haired Al-Qaeda.
They're presenting architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth as a conspiracy theory group that's pro-Al-Qaeda.
So, you know, anything's in the making, but keep going.
unidentified
That's basically, you know, all the research that I've done, listening to Alex, watching all of your loose change editions, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, all of that pretty much says that we don't have years left.
jason bermas
I don't know if we have years left.
We may have a decade left of, you know, sparse freedom here and there, but you know what?
Let's take Bob Chapman's Opinion on the matter.
What do you think, Bob?
Do you think that a false flag terror attack is in the works to be blamed on Russia now?
bob chapman
Possible, but not probable.
I think they started to accomplish what they want to accomplish, and it backfired on them.
And that might sound like an idiom, but it's not.
Russia, over the weekend, told Israel if they continue to Send armaments of offense to Georgia that they're going to arm the other nations in their area with offensive arms and they have talks going on right now with Syria and that'll be the beginning so there's the escalation phase has begun and I as far as false flag attacks Based on Georgia and Russia.
I don't think so I think At this time, they're going to have a hard time pulling off some kind of a false flag attack because, you know, who do they blame it on?
jason bermas
Well, that's the question.
I mean, who do they blame it on?
Do they blame it on the traditional Al-Qaeda and try to say that Iran has something to do with it?
Do they blame it strictly on Iran?
Do they blame it on separatists or anarchists within the country?
Do they now blame it on, you know, Russian spies?
It's really wide open.
bob chapman
It is.
And, you know, how believable is it going to be after what you and others have done in the massive exposure of the scam that we just went through, which is 9-11 and terrorism?
I think it's like the boy you call Wolf.
He calls once too often, which in this case is only twice, if you want to call Oklahoma City one of them.
And it probably was.
And so I think that they just really made a mess out of things again.
And I think they'd like to start and prolong hostilities in Georgia and in the Balkans.
And I think that that will happen.
But I think even more importantly, the reason why they're doing that, in my mind, is that to take The heat off of Western Europe, Canada, the United States, and their terrible financial and economic problems.
And so, whatever the reason, there's going to be continued conflict, and now Russia will be involved, and quite frankly, I don't think, with the exception of high technology weaponry, we're no match for them right now.
jason bermas
It's Bob Chapman from TheInternationalForecaster.com.
We're going to be getting his opinion on world affairs in the next hour.
This is the Alex Jones Show.
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All right, folks, we're back!
It is the Alex Jones Show.
We are with Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com.
And I want to switch gears a little bit, Bob.
I want to get your economic forecast for the United States for the next month.
Where do we seem to be heading?
It looks like, you know, gas has gotten a little bit cheaper at the pump.
Doesn't seem like they're gouging food prices as much as they were perhaps two weeks ago, three weeks ago.
But what are we going to see now that the summer is ending and we're coming into the fall?
bob chapman
Well, I think prices are going to continue to move higher in food and probably in energy, because I think oil and the energy complex, as well as the agricultural complex, are basing out.
I think they're finding support.
It'll wallow around here perhaps for another week or two in gold and silver, and I think it'll take a little longer for Commodities to reset a bottom.
jason bermas
All right, Bob, I've got to interrupt you just because Alex is calling in live from the DNC.
I'm sorry about the preemption.
We'll go right back to you.
unidentified
Alex, are you with us?
alex jones
Yes. Thank you, Bob, for being with us.
How's my cell coming in to you?
jason bermas
Very good.
alex jones
Okay, I'm going to report by the end of the show, and I may have you go into overdrive.
If our new IT people can do that, if Paul and the other guys can do that, Paul and Bob.
Paul Hartman, by the way, awesome guy.
We need to bring him in studio someday this week so we can see one of our new IT guys.
Anyway, side issue, I want to thank the great crew that is there, everything that they're doing.
You might go into overdrive today because the anarchist little hirelings have blocked off the street again.
We are now rushing from a FEMA camp, recharging our laptop batteries to go live over there.
It's getting through traffic.
It's really hard to run the gauntlet, but we should be there.
The police are marching in now.
It started exploding yesterday with a bunch of people being arrested and being taken to the secret FEMA camp.
bob chapman
Bob. Well, what do you think about the DNC?
jason bermas
Obviously, you've been on in the past few months.
You know about the drills that they ran, the black helicopters.
You know that they set up detention centers.
You know that they're planning on using some of these microwave weapons.
You even know about Recreate 68 and their attempts to try to provocateur violence and really shut down any form of real dissent.
You know, we're trying to shatter the left-right paradigm.
That's why we're at the DNC right now.
What do you think the predictions are going to be for the weekend?
bob chapman
Well, I think that you will have the Jean Provocateurs there.
And not only in 68 did they do it in the United States, but they did it all over Europe.
If you remember Danny Cohen-Bendit, he's been in And the Bundestag in Germany for a number of years as an elected representative.
So it shows you how things can turn.
And obviously he was working in a secret capacity and doing what he did in Paris.
But yes, they will continue to try to do that.
I had a conversation with Tony Hilder in 1964 about what we're seeing today and what we saw in the 60s.
And what we were trying to do, and still trying to do, is bring the left and the right together, so to speak.
And it's working.
And we're all Americans, and we all want generally the same thing, peace and prosperity.
And the other forces, the Illuminists who run our government, they're not very happy about that.
And so, whenever they can get an opportunity to create havoc, toward their aims and goals they will do so and this convention is one of them.
Did you see this morning the filing of a lawsuit against Mr. Obama by an attorney who is, we'll call him, in the Hillary Clinton camp?
jason bermas
This isn't the Phil Berg one, is it?
Is this the Phil Berg lawsuit?
Phil Berg, I mean, he's been You know, he's dabbed in 9-11 truth, if you will, by representing some of the family members in an early lawsuit against Saudi Arabia.
And I did do Alex's Sunday show yesterday.
Someone did briefly bring that up, and it had to do with his citizenship, apparently, not being born in the States.
I think that's in both Corsi's book and Tarpley's book.
Why don't you elaborate on that for us?
bob chapman
Well, it's basically the way that you've said it, and there is a A reproduction of a document showing that he's an Indonesian.
I've seen the reproduction.
In fact, we had it in the forecaster as a link on Saturday.
I believe either it's in the next issue.
I can't keep track of it.
jason bermas
And that's apparently been corroborated by the Associated Press is what I've heard.
bob chapman
And that's right.
So what do they do at the convention?
You know, this ought to be interesting.
jason bermas
Well, absolutely.
bob chapman
I mean, you know, the Hillary fans are going to say, hey, wait a minute, this guy isn't qualified.
jason bermas
It's very interesting, and they've been promoting this guy.
What's your feeling on them taking Joseph Biden as the pick for VP?
Obviously, one of these globalist guys, one of the good old boys, member of the CFR, well aware of the New World Order, given several speeches on the matter, wrote about it in the Wall Street Journal.
What's your opinion of Joey B., as I like to call him?
bob chapman
Well, I think he is two things.
Number one, the strength, the real strength in the ticket from the Illuminist viewpoint because he's been involved for a long time.
And they, I guess, wouldn't mind having him as president if Mr. Obama were to be elected and stepped out of line that would be the Illuminati line.
And if they had to assassinate him, then they wouldn't worry about it because they could Biden in there.
jason bermas
That seems to be the case.
bob chapman
I think that's the way they look at it, and that's why he was chosen.
jason bermas
Well, you know, I always thought the emphasis was either gonna be on Hillary or Edwards, and then they burned Edwards with his affair scandal.
And then it was kind of up in the air.
It could have been anybody.
And then they started mentioning Biden.
And I guess I kind of lucked out because in my new movie, Fabled Enemies, I show Biden's ties to the Pakistani ISI and the fact that he was well aware that they were funneling money into the Taliban and al-Qaeda through this inter-services intelligence organization that the CIA created in the 80s.
And we get him to admit on camera that, indeed, General Mahmoud Ahmed was funding the hijackers and the Taliban, and later that that evidence was classified.
Now, he was a huge, tough talker on September 12th.
He went before the House.
He threatened Pakistan.
And as you know, Pakistan cowed down to all of our demands.
We were able to put troops there.
bob chapman
I don't know who killed his wife.
He's the next candidate.
First hand, that she was an agent.
jason bermas
I believe it.
I mean, she seems to be that way.
She did spread out that information.
A lot of people have tried to get me to pick up on where she was on the BBC and said that Omar Saeed Sheikh, who was actually facilitating these wire transfers, this money laundering by the ISI for General Mahmoud Ahmed, had killed Osama bin Laden and that he had It could be
bob chapman
right, but that's the way that line looks.
But getting back to Biden, He is just doing exactly as he is told to do and has been previously in his position in the Senate, and so he'll do what they want him to do, and that's why they want him there in case they have to remove Obama.
And, you know, we wouldn't be talking this way if we hadn't seen the assassination of John Kennedy among many, many other people in the interim, the thousands and thousands of people That they've suicided and all of these things and I've talked to Alex about this a number of times and that puts us, you and I, in jeopardy as well because there's going to come a time probably when they want to come along and whack us too.
jason bermas
Absolutely. If you don't think that, you know, people like Alex Jones, Bob Chapman, myself, Alan Watt, Kevin Ryan, the list goes on, are on some sort of a list.
Well, they're on public lists, folks.
I mean, when you see the Simon Wiesenthal Center presenting us as terrorists, white al-Qaeda, you better believe that we're on a list at Homeland Security.
You better believe that we're on a watch list for the FBI.
You just never know when they're going to decide to pull the trigger and say, that's it, we're going to round them up.
I mean, the Patriot Act gave them this right with Section 802, basically allows them to arrest you for anything, really just thinking about committing a crime or not even thinking about it, just, you know, maybe talking about something that might be illegal in somebody's eyes and they can detain you forever.
basically call you an enemy combatant you will get no trial and even if you do get some kind of a mock trial maybe a military tribunal it's highly controlled the media does not have access to you you can be sentenced to you know one to five years such as bin Laden's limo driver but then they can just turn around and say like well we don't know if we're going to be releasing him in one to five years we might just hold him indefinitely
bob chapman
It's really incredible, but what it tells people, if they've got any brains whatsoever, is that you now live under a corporatist fascist Dictatorial government.
It's already begun.
And you're seeing that in reference to what Alex is doing this week at the convention and the efforts that are being put into subduing anything that they don't want to happen.
I mean, you don't run around with people in combat outfits with combat gear and combat weaponry to put down people who are screaming and yelling in the streets.
jason bermas
Absolutely not, and that's why they had these organizations like Unconventional Action and Recreate 68 to try to get the lemmings to come and protest in shields with red paint and armor, and to provocateur these events, to destroy cameras when they saw them.
They want nothing but violence here so they can shut down any sensible, meaningful, peaceful protest.
We're going to be back with Bob Chapman of the International Forecaster on the other side.
This is the Alex Jones Show.
I'm Jason Bermas.
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All right, folks, we're back.
It is Monday, August 25th, 2008.
Kicking off the DNC exclusive video over at Infowars.com.
We're on the line with Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com.
We're going to go to some of your calls, so hopefully you've got a question for Bob or myself.
It looks like Rasheen in New York has been holding the longest, so let's go to Rasheen.
You with us?
right. Let's go to Joe.
We already went to Joe.
Let's go to Chuck in Indiana then.
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Thank you.
Hi Jason.
I've got a question for Bob.
I've been reading over the weekend that George is set to make another offensive against the Russian peacekeepers.
I just wondered what your thoughts were on that.
bob chapman
First of all, I didn't see that.
I certainly take your word for it.
I don't see that happening.
The Russian force will just come back in that's been removed, and this time they won't stop.
You know, at Gori and some of the other places in the country, they'll just take the whole place over.
And that could elicit NATO action, although Georgia doesn't belong to NATO.
I don't know how the U.S. will handle that.
They would perhaps have to do it unilaterally.
Outside of NATO.
But were that to happen, that would be the result.
And the Russians are perfectly, easily capable of taking over Georgia, and the Ukraine for that matter, without any great effort whatsoever.
Ukraine's making all kinds of noises about blocking the Black Sea Fleet from coming into Sevastopol.
And I don't think they ought to do that.
May end up as a Russian satellite.
jason bermas
Alright, let's go to Norman in North Carolina.
Norman, what's on your mind?
unidentified
I just want to take this opportunity to commend yourself and Alex and people like Bob who are fighting the good fight and doing it right.
And you guys are an inspiration.
I woke up in 2003 and I've been fervently Uh, pursuing the truth and sharing it with people and, and just trying to, you know, be the little bit of leavin' that loses the whole loaf.
And I'm astounded at NIST that they have chosen to continue down the road of pathological science in the light of all of the empirical data, eyewitness testimony, and just common sense information that we have now.
Um, we know that Building 7 was obviously a controlled demolition, and it just amazes me That they continue down this road when we all know that the United States American citizen is the highest authority in this land and we have valid questions and we deserve valid answers.
jason bermas
Well, we need to start acting like we're number one, Norman, and I thank you for the call and I thank you for all you've done.
You know, without you, you know, we're not able to spread this message.
Hopefully you're burning DVDs and handing them out.
But, you know, of course they couldn't say controlled demolition.
I mean, they didn't even do any tests.
No, I think you covered it.
bob chapman
I'm not an expert at it and I can't really add to it.
jason bermas
Oh, absolutely.
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I was watching television and I looked at my wife and I said, you know, that's a prepared demo.
This thing's a setup.
I knew right away.
jason bermas
Yeah, it's pretty incredible.
And, you know, people like me who just were not in touch with, quote unquote, the New World Order or globalization or false flag terror on 9-11 just were so dumbfounded at everything that was going on.
I think that we were just willing to accept any explanation that was given and things that went into the background weren't even thought about.
I mean, we were under attack and we knew who the enemy was and the enemy was bin Laden.
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And a lot of people out there still haven't given it much thought.
Seven years later, even though the Constitution and Bill of Rights are now down the drain, we're in two separate foreign nations as aggressors, Iraq and Afghanistan.
We're now helping Georgian troops attack South Ossetia and Russia.
I mean, the insanity has to stop somewhere, and I hope that it stops somewhere.
Well, that's pretty easy.
bob chapman
There's Midas, of course, at the TCN, and his deal is all over the country.
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And, uh, unfortunately there seems to be, uh, a little bit, or, or, or a large, um, uh, absence of, uh, lots of coins around nowadays.
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jason bermas
All right, we'll be back with Bob Chapman.
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It's the Alex Jones Show.
Of course, we got our time zone screwed up, and we only have Kevin Ryan on for this segment, and we'll go back to Bob Chapman later, but I really want to discuss this new NIST report with Kevin Ryan, formerly of Underwriters Laboratories, who certified the steel structure used at the World Trade Center.
Kevin, thank you so much for joining us.
kevin ryan
Thank you, Jason.
It's good to be with you.
jason bermas
It's good to be with you, and you know, we've interviewed you a couple times, the Loose Change crew.
You're a very gracious individual.
You've dedicated now more than, I believe, five years of your life to trying to expose the lie that is, you know, the controlled demolitions at World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7. Give us your thoughts on this latest NIST report.
kevin ryan
Well, this is a very surprising report.
It's really shocking in that it appears that This didn't really even try to come up with a legitimate story for what happened.
We were expecting a great deal more from them, and, you know, there's just so many points that it can be criticized on, it's hard to even know where to begin.
jason bermas
Well, let's start with the fact that S. Shyam Sunder, the head of this investigation, if you will, the mouthpiece, talked to Popular Mechanics some three years ago now for their first article on the subject.
I think it was in April of 2004 that they put this out.
And he was quoted as saying that up to 25% of the building was actually scooped out of the south face on the lower third, up to 10 stories.
And, you know, we provided video evidence and eyewitness testimony to the contrary, and they seem to have dropped that theory, if you will.
kevin ryan
Absolutely, and what he actually said was, as you said, 25% of one-third of the face, which is one-quarter of one-third of the foundation, or a twelfth of the foundation.
That was misstated in the major media as being a quarter of the foundation of the building.
But there's no way they could have proven that.
And the shocking thing, or the sterling thing, is that the buildings on adjacent sides of World Trade Center 7 were not really damaged at all prior to the fall of Building 7.
So just the probabilities that this one building could have this huge amount scooped out Buildings on either side, equidistant from the North Tower, did not have any damage.
That was incredulous, I think.
jason bermas
Absolutely. Now let's talk about the fact that they didn't even look at the molten metal evidence.
We know that John Gross of NIST has denied that there was molten metal on the scene of World Trade Center 1, 2, 6, and 7. Even though we have the thermal imagery, we have Ken Holden before FEMA talking about it, we have numerous firefighters talking about it, we have the quote-unquote World Trade Center asteroids, which is a combination of the steel, iron, and concrete that mesh together in one formation.
We even have, which nobody really talks about, the World Trade Center cross.
Now, this was two steel beams that were fused together in the form of a cross with iron hanging off the side.
All of it must have been moltenized for it to be able to become one solid state, isn't that right?
kevin ryan
Absolutely, and I've been searching through this report just this weekend, just briefly reviewing it.
I can't find any references to the comments that FEMA made about the sulfidation and the high temperature corrosion.
So I'm still looking for that, but I doubt they're going to have any satisfactory explanation for molten metal or sulfidation in the steel or the environmental data, of course, that we've recently put out.
jason bermas
And those are the microspheres in the thing that shows that this was moltenized?
kevin ryan
Right, so if we find microspheres that match the residue of thermite, as Dr. Jones has done, then that pretty much indicates that there's something other than clean-up operations, and the metal had to be molten at some point in order to form spheres.
So, yeah, molten metal is a key, and I doubt that they're going to have anything in this report that's going to explain any of that.
jason bermas
I doubt that as well, especially with them saying that the temperatures of the fire that supposedly caused thermal expansion and the detachment of one of the beams, I believe 79th beam or something like that on the 13th or 17th floor, I'm not quite sure which one it was, but they basically said it was hundreds of degrees below the temperature they first expected and instead of making a computer model where the steel beams Right.
They basically built their own computer model Based on the architecture of the building And the blueprints And then animated it to suit their needs Right And the whole thermal expansion idea is, interestingly, opposite of what happened in the towers.
kevin ryan
So, in the towers, the floor assemblies sagged, right?
They weakened and sagged and then pulled on the external columns.
In this case, it's the opposite.
Office fires, relatively small office fires, created rigidity in the steel and actually caused the steel beam to become rigid and expand and lengthen, is what they're saying.
And then somehow dislodged this column 79, which caused further collapse of floor segments.
It's just, it's absurd because it's not believable in itself, but also quite opposite of all the other stories they've given in the past.
jason bermas
Well, that's the thing about criminals and people that are guilty of something.
You know they're lying to you when they give you multiple versions of the same event.
For instance, it was originally reported 20 plus minutes before the building fell that it fell because of debris from the North and South Tower and fires within the building.
Later in the week, they said, well, it looks like the diesel fuel tanks must have exploded, bringing the building down.
Later, it was one third of the building was scooped out.
And now we're into a realm that is just Beyond Belief where they say small fires cause thermal expansion and one, let me count them, one column detaches causing quote-unquote a term they love and they have created global collapse.
Can you talk about global collapse for me?
kevin ryan
Yeah, global, the idea of global collapse is where one segment of the building fails and then the rest kind of cascades in a failure progressively then I think?
to the result of global collapse.
The whole building then falls.
And generally this is something that we see in earthquakes, for example, and never before in fire, and they admit that.
They talk about this extraordinary event, and everything is extraordinary suddenly.
The fire itself is extraordinary, although it doesn't heat up the steel very much.
But I think what's very important here is this hair-trigger column, which causes this...
Uh, eight second or six and a half second collapse of this building.
Uh, they're, NIST is now arguing over 40% difference on 18 stories as being significant.
But six and a half seconds or eight seconds total, um, that could never have been predicted by anyone, right?
And we can all imagine that.
If this is happening for the first time ever, and one column is like a hair trigger, you know, switch that causes the whole building to fall in on itself, nobody could predict that.
But yet, A number of people did predict it.
jason bermas
Yes. But it is really just completely ludicrous what they are expecting us to swallow.
And the mainstream media is now touting this as the final word on Building 7. I mean, do you expect follow-ups by popular mechanics?
Do you expect them to parade this report around now that we're close to the seventh anniversary of 9-11?
Are we going to see this in the news on 9-11?
What do you think?
kevin ryan
Well, I'm not really sure what to think, Jason.
This is...
The story is so weak, it makes me wonder.
And there's a couple of options that I can think of, either...
For example, it's just the anniversary and they need to say something quickly, or those of us engaging in the independent investigation are getting close enough where they'd just like to close the books on the whole thing and move forward.
I'm not sure what to think on why they would put out such a weak story and just leave themselves open to criticism, but, you know, there's a lot of things could be done.
That could be said.
There are several blatant lies in the story, and this investigation clearly took five years.
They've been saying three years, but they worked from August 2002 to June 2004, and they produced literally hundreds of pages of a detailed report on World Trade Center 7 that were part of either the report they put on the towers or was a preliminary report in 2004.
They'd worked on it for two years before they started their three-year new investigation.
That's one lie.
They also talked about how they were very open to discussing alternative theories, and that's a blatant lie.
There have been multiple invitations from independent investigators to discuss this openly with NIST.
They've never even responded to those invitations.
You know, my own story, being fired from a job just for politely and professionally asking questions of the NIST team.
jason bermas
Through the proper channels, might I add.
I mean, you were writing professional letters based on their research, contradicting what they were saying, correct?
kevin ryan
Absolutely, and being as respectful as I could possibly be, and never receiving any response other than termination within five days from Underwriters Laboratories.
And so, it's clear they were not very open to discussing alternative theories.
But, you know, I think this whole thing where they're now saying that they looked into explosives and And they say that the way they did this was they imagined that someone put a very large bomb next to column 79. And that is something that would have caused a sound that would be too loud.
And people would have remarked on this very loud sound.
That's their logic.
jason bermas
And they also said that the decibel levels on the videos would have disproven the use of explosives, when your main hypothesis over at Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth is that they use thermite or thermate, which does not make a large boom-like sound.
In fact, it just cuts through the columns rather easily without much of an explosive sound at all.
Isn't that correct?
kevin ryan
That's right.
And the only comment that Cheyenne Sunder made about the thermite Possibility was a little absurd as well.
He said that, you know, the thermite would have to be held close to the column, so that didn't make any sense to him.
And, of course, we've done some investigation and found out that there's a type of material called nanothermites which can be sprayed on or dip-coated onto things like steel.
And, you know, it just turns out that the NIST team has a lot of connections to these materials.
jason bermas
Yeah, please talk about that, because that never gets any play, and I know that Alex would love to hear it.
Talk about these NIST guys' connection to thermite and thermate research.
kevin ryan
Yeah, well, I started looking into this because I found a few stray connections, and there's an article at the Journal of 9-11 Studies just from last month called, The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nanothermites.
And it turns out that some of their directors, for example, The Arden Beamitt guy, who was nominated by George W. Bush just a month after September 11th, has a lot of connections to this kind of technology.
He was also director at Mattel, which is an interesting organization that manages national laboratories, including the Fort Detrick Laboratory, where the Anzacs came from.
But there's another director who replaced him, called Harach Simerjian, and he wrote Quite a few papers with the world's leading expert on nanothermites.
His name is Michael Zachariah.
There is Foreman Williams, who is quoted often by Popular Mechanics and is the lead engineer on NIST's advisory team, who is an expert on the ignition of porous energetic materials, and that's exactly what we're talking about with nanothermites.
It really goes on quite a bit, and if you read that paper I think you'll be startled to see That NIST would never have thought, somehow they would never have thought of these materials.
They don't know how thermite might be applied to this day.
They don't know that thermite can be explosive as well as incendiary.
And those things, those statements by NIST now just aren't believable.
And I think that people ought to call them on these things, and of course we will with our response to this report.
jason bermas
Well, they say that they're going to be taking alternative information or any information the public has until September 15th, I believe.
And I hope that everybody out there forwards them Barry Jennings' interview of explosions inside the building prior to either tower collapsing.
And he's not the only one that was there.
He was with Michael Hess, the City Corporation Counsel.
Both went on the news that day.
Both talked about these explosions inside the building.
We know for a fact that Barry Jennings not only talked to FEMA, because he is in the FEMA report, but he also talked to the 9-11 Commission.
So, this guy's testimony is on record.
He is one of the few people that was in the building, and I will bet dollars to donuts that he was not even considered in this final report, Kevin.
kevin ryan
Oh, I'm certain of that, yeah.
I wonder if they talked to him at all for this report, but I doubt it.
jason bermas
No, I doubt it as well, because if you saw that hack job on the BBC about a month ago, it was very apparent that Barry told the same exact story, minus the bodies in the lobby, as he was always saying, we, and he was talking about the many explosions, but they edited it in a manner to make it look like he was alone,
they did a reenactment of just him there, they took out any, any corroborating evidence that Hess was there, and then they distorted his timeline by going to other eyewitnesses, saying that they had evacuated After, I believe it was the second plane strike or the Pentagon being hit, which is totally ludicrous, because Barry puts himself there after the first plane strike before the second one.
kevin ryan
Yeah, your interview, the interview that you posted, Jason, the Loose Change crew posted, is really stunning.
And it contradicts the BBC approach quite clearly.
Jennings talks about looking out the window and seeing No evidence for any collapse of the towers after this explosion, right?
jason bermas
Yeah, absolutely.
He says that he looked both ways, and the towers were there, and then he says that as he was talking to firemen, they ran away as the first tower went down.
Then they came back.
Then he was talking to them again, and then the second tower fell.
Then they came back.
They didn't get him out of there for another hour, hour and a half plus.
And when they did get him out of there, they took him down to the lobby, and they had to make a makeshift hole.
And he said it looked like, you know, Explosives had went off in the lobby and he said he was listening to these explosions inside and outside.
He could feel them from underneath him.
Him and Michael Hess were almost killed by that initial explosion while they were in the 8th to 6th floor being blown back from that explosion from underneath them.
And I can almost guarantee you that his testimony was not even considered because it would cause an alternative hypothesis and they really have no interest in looking at the truth.
kevin ryan
I agree.
We see no evidence that they have any interest in pursuing the truth at NIST.
In fact, I'm starting to believe that there may be strong connections between those who were involved in the investigation and those who committed the crimes.
And I know that's a stretch to say that, but I can't imagine another reason why people would be so persistent in avoiding the truth as NIST has been.
jason bermas
You know, being a member of Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, I'd like to hear how you feel That the Simon Wiesenthal Center literally showed Al-Qaeda snuff films right before flashing Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth as a terrorist website.
I mean, how did...
First of all, you're an American citizen.
You have no ties to radical Islam, to terrorists of any nature from any country.
How does it make you feel when you see yourself being demonized and this group being demonized for doing nothing but applying real science?
kevin ryan
Well, it's troubling, that's for sure, and that's a smear campaign.
There's no question about that.
So I know some people may respond in ways where they're trying to protect themselves from assumed accusations, and there have been no accusations that I know of toward the Simon Wiesenthal Center from the 9-11 Truth Movement.
But the 9-11 Truth Movement, in my view, the people I've met, they essentially represent the American people.
That's who we are.
We're not, you know, we're not terrorists.
We're not connected to any political organizations per se.
We have no agenda other than just getting to the truth.
And I think it's abhorrent, really, that we would be smeared like that, just asking for the truth that we need in order to survive in the future.
jason bermas
Absolutely. Our entire way of life depends on it.
The future of our freedom in this country depends on it.
The future of our constitutional republic truly depends on getting the truth out about 9-11.
I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Our entire foreign and domestic policy is based on 9-11.
Kevin, any thoughts to wrap up?
How can people help?
kevin ryan
Well, I tell you what, you can go to Architects and Engineers from 9-11 Truth and there is something you can copy there and send to every architect and engineer you can find.
That's what Richard Gage is asking for.
jason bermas
Alright, Kevin, thank you so much, man.
Thanks for joining us.
This is Alex Jones.
We'll be back after this.
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All right, we're back at the Alex Jones Show having a little bit of fun in light of some of the more serious things that we discuss on this program.
jason bermas
Including the falsified NIST report, where fires 100 degrees below the once-thought temperatures caused thermal expansion and a complete demolition of a 47-story skyscraper that housed the largest CIA base outside of Langley, the largest Secret Service office in the world, the SEC, the DOD, the IRS, and of course the Office of Emergency Management.
But go back to sleep, it was just fire, of course.
Alright, let's take some callers.
Into the next hour, actually, we're going to be taking callers until we get Bob Chapman back on at around 2.30.
Alex should be popping in shortly, and we may even go into overdrive to bring you even more exclusive DNC footage.
All right, let us go to, I believe it is, Mark in Florida.
Mark, what's on your mind?
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Hey, how you doing, Jason?
jason bermas
Good, man.
unidentified
Good, good.
I just wanted to talk a little bit about the Trade Center, the Building 7. Announcement of Cheyenne Thunder, I think it's very weak.
Just even from a non-scientific point of view, if you just look at it philosophically, experimental science studies repeatable phenomenon.
Yes. So this is a phenomenon that has never before or since happened.
jason bermas
And it will never, ever be repeated in any type of a lab.
If it was a repeatable phenomenon in any way, shape, or form, they would have been able to build computer models with actual physics to demonstrate their point, and they were unable to do so.
They built computer models and animated them towards their conclusion.
unidentified
I thought he did say that he had some kind of a computer model to model this fire, but I think it's a very interesting kind of thing, but I might be mistaken in that.
jason bermas
No, they had a building model, which was based on the blueprints, but then they weren't actually able to apply the heat from the fire, as they said, that it would have been hundreds of degrees below what, you know, a computer model or anything they had tested.
Uh, would have actually done.
They kind of just had to hypothesize it.
And then they put this, this model looks so ridiculous.
I mean, one column starts to fall, then the surrounding columns start to fall somewhere near the middle of the building, and then they don't even show the facade of the building.
And they don't even show the thing come all the way down.
unidentified
What I, what I think they're doing, Jason, is I think that they're, have you ever, have you ever heard of, like, chaos theory where you have the butterfly effect and he flaps his wings in Australia and you get a tornado in Miami?
Sure. But if you put him 30 meters away, And he flaps his wings, nothing happens.
Six months later, he's in Miami.
Yeah. I think what these NIS guys are doing is working the thing in reverse and finding initial conditions.
You know, they work the program in reverse first, find some initial conditions, and then they put the butterfly exactly where they need him to flap his wings.
In this case, it would be fires, you know, or in the case of the towers burning, it would be like You know, they needed 42 inches of bend in the steel, rather than just 3 inches.
But then they worked their computer programs forward, and they say, wow, we've got evidence now that it just came from this one thing, because they worked it backwards first.
Oh, absolutely.
That's my opinion.
jason bermas
No, that's exactly what they did.
They did work it backwards, I think, for the call.
Again, they had the conclusion first, and they worked their models around that conclusion, applying no science to their actual computer models.
Let me say it again.
No science.
No physical properties.
All right.
Let's go to James in New York.
James, what's on your mind?
We dropped James.
Let's go to Greg in Detroit then.
Greg, what's up?
unidentified
Alright, I have two points to make if I can make them both.
One on 9-11 and one about Denver.
jason bermas
As far as 9-11 goes, I've heard that Georgia Tech Neil Bush was the head of Securicom, later called Stratasec, and his company did do security for both the World Trade Center and Dulles Airport prior to 9-11.
Not sure if they were involved on 9-11.
I think they were going through the process of kind of giving that over to Kroll, which is just really a CIA shell corporation.
We'll get your point on the DNC on the other side.
This is the Alex Jones Show.
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