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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
jason bermas
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome!
I am not Alex Jones, I happen to be Jason Burmess, and I will be filling in today, Sunday, and then all the way through Thursday as Alex begins to venture off to the DNC.
Very exciting stuff.
In fact, he was promoting that on, I believe it was Peter Boyle's radio show.
Maybe able to get that on a stream later today, and we'll be playing that, hopefully, in the third hour or fourth hour, but basically he got on with Luke of WeAreChange and Jonathan Ellenhoff of WeAreChange, who will be joining us later today as well, against one of the founders of Recreate68.
And apparently it got very heated, so I'm very anxious to hear that.
We're going to be talking about Building 7. It's all over the place.
Made CNN last night.
Of course, the mystery is solved.
The mystery is solved.
Apparently, you know, it wasn't scooped out.
Uh, the fires weren't that hot, uh, but a center beam expanded, and, uh, there was a disconnect, I believe, on the 13th floor, just one, of these many, many columns, and, uh, zero resistance, just everything began to fall inward, and that's why the facade of the building fell with the internal structure, apparently, according to S. Siam Sunder and his ragtag band of NIST cover-up artists.
Uh, the CNN piece does show Our InfoWars reporter Shane Geiger, who's going to be joining us as well today, asking part of his question, what they don't show, is where they turn the lights off on him and basically do not answer his question.
I mean, you can tell they don't answer his question from this New York Times article where they basically say that, first they lie and say no one died in World Trade Center 7. We've just proven that on several occasions.
There's mainstream reports of a couple people dying, but we all know Barry Jennings' first account, which is in Fabled Enemies.
And you can check that out.
I think most of Barry Jennings' interview is posted with a little bit of context for a preview of Fabled Enemies right now.
And remember, you can pre-order that at InfoWars.com.
It's going to be available at PrisonPlanet.tv on August 31st.
But they say it was ridiculous, and there was no way, so they didn't even look at it.
You know, it's...
Skeptics have questioned If explosives were planted in at 7 World Trade Center as well as the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, the Pentagon, you know, why do they even bring the Pentagon in?
It's ridiculousness.
As the Bush administration was seeking a justification to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, what started as a small number of such conspiracy theorists has only ballooned into a movement of sorts, largely fed by internet sites that promote the theories.
And then they try to say, you know, one in seven Americans just make up a number.
I love how they just make up a number.
Well, we're going to get into that big time today.
I mean, man, you know, Wolf Blitzer gets up there and he's so smug and he's like, mystery over!
We know why 7 fell.
They didn't even have any steel from 7 to use in these tests.
These are computer models made to do what they want.
You know, I took 3D modeling and I'll bet anything That they did not rig any kind of physics into these things.
It's just a model and it represents, I guarantee it's an animation.
It's nothing more.
unidentified
Because the physics wouldn't disprove it!
jason bermas
It's wild.
But you know what?
The debunkers will now harp on this.
This is the, I believe, the fourth or fifth version of the story.
And this will be the new talking point for the debunkers of Thermal Expansion.
Coming up in the next segment, we have Benjamin Fulford, the former Forbes editor.
An expert of, uh, really, the Eastern ways, I guess.
Uh, it's gonna be interesting to talk to him after, of course, China having the Olympics out there.
I don't know if everybody out there caught the, uh, opening ceremony, but very bizarre, very much blurred the, uh, line between reality and fantasy, uh, by them superimposing things on the screen, such as fireworks.
I mean, we've all, we've all seen the, uh, lip-syncing.
That's kind of, you know, blase.
But they took it to another level.
Plus, I want to get his take on the situation over in Georgia and Russia.
It's Benjamin Fulford on the other side.
This is the Alex Jones Show.
Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
unidentified
The End.
david miller
On September 11th, 2001, along with hundreds of my fellow troops, I went to ground zero.
And we knew what to do.
Or at least we thought we did.
alex jones
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unidentified
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The director on the 18th made a statement that the air was safe to breathe.
alex jones
This film follows the growing momentum of 9-11 truth as brave souls throughout the world take action against their global masters.
kevin mcpadden
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He takes his hand off and you hear 3, 2, 1 and it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
jason bermas
All right, folks, we are back.
I am not Alex Jones.
Once again, I am Jason Bermas, one of the creators of Loose Change.
You can get that over at Infowars.com, and we got a new film coming out called Fabled Enemies.
We'd like you to get that, too.
It really goes into the international intelligence organization that carried out 9-11.
It doesn't really focus on the physical anomalies, but it really does trash the report from Building 7 yesterday.
Right now, joining us, we have Benjamin Fulford.
He was the former Asian Bureau Chief of Forbes Magazine.
He's also written for the South China Morning Post and a variety of other high-profile publications.
We're going to talk to him about global affairs today.
How are you, Benjamin?
benjamin fulford
Fine, fine.
How are you?
jason bermas
I am very, very good.
unidentified
So, right into it.
jason bermas
I want to get what the Japanese people's take is on this Russia-Georgia situation.
I mean, people are really, in this country, still believe that, you know, Russia is the demon and they Well, I mean,
benjamin fulford
you know, the situation in Japan is a bit similar to the U.S., where you have a large, brainwashed public that just believes what their media is telling them, and you have A significant group of people who know the truth.
And the people who know the truth know that this was an American provocation.
That, more specifically, they know that what's happening is we're dealing with a very, very dangerous situation where we have a group of neo-Nazis who control the U.S. People are in deep trouble, and they're trying to dig themselves out of this trouble by starting World War III, or trying to.
And so the government and the elite people are aware that these people are cornered, they're dangerous, and they're trying to somehow create a provocation to start World War III and give them an excuse to impose martial law on the U.S. Well, that seems to be what it's coming down to.
jason bermas
I really hope that they do not achieve their goals.
It seems like there might be a de-escalation there, but what you're telling me is that the general population over there also thinks that Russia is the aggressor in this situation, and are really just not aware of what's going on?
benjamin fulford
Well, I think the aware segment is larger than in the U.S., but unfortunately the mainstream newspapers and television are Following the U.S. line right now.
I mean, in terms of, you know, the major media.
jason bermas
Well, I mean, you've had Fujito over there, who has, you know, gone before his parliament and basically brought up 9-11 truth.
I was wondering what the situation is with that.
Has that progressed any?
I mean, obviously, the World Trade Center 7 NIST report came out yesterday.
Of course, they said it was fire.
Uh, even though it was hundreds of degrees less than they had previously thought, and they said that the damage to the building didn't really matter, and it was only one beam that detached after thermal expansion, but this caused a perfect symmetrical collapse.
benjamin fulford
I mean, look, you know, the people who are totally brainwashed will clutch any straw they need to, you know, keep their illusionary world around them, right?
Mm-hmm. But...
Anybody who knows what's going on knows, and has known for a long time, this is a bunch of BS.
jason bermas
So do you think there will be any progress over there on the issue of 9-11 Truth?
benjamin fulford
Well, what's happening over here is that we have a government that was set up by the CIA and the remnants of the military regime of World War II.
And that regime is coming to an end.
They're delaying, they can delay the next election until September of next year, but our opinion polls show that they are on their way out.
So what's happening is, we're headed for a major regime change here in Japan, and so the opposition party that has support of the majority of the population, they are aware of the situation, and there will be truce commissions and all that sort of stuff once this regime is out of the way.
jason bermas
Well, what kind of power do you think will be given to those kind of commissions?
I mean, obviously, we won't have a war crimes tribunal much like The Hague.
I mean, I just don't see that happening.
unidentified
I mean, what do you think?
benjamin fulford
Oh, there'll be a truth commission like they had in South Africa.
jason bermas
So basically, people will be named, but nothing will be done?
benjamin fulford
Well, you know, they'll be named and shamed, and when you say nothing will be done, I mean, you have to look at it this way.
I mean, they won't be able to do this anymore.
But here in Japan, The same people who were behind 9-1-1 have been financing certain right-wing groups who function much like the German brownshirts did.
And they've been murdering politicians and members of the media, as well as industrialists, in order to keep their control over this country for the past 60 years.
And that will be exposed.
jason bermas
Well, I certainly hope so, because we've only seen more censorship.
I mean, in the last few weeks, InfoWars and Prison Planet have been blocked in large segments of the United Kingdom.
Alex actually did a big contest to make viral videos to make people aware of this.
And, you know, I see that crackdown happening in this country a little bit soon.
I don't know what it's like over in Japan.
How censored is the Internet right now?
benjamin fulford
Well, not very.
I mean, the current regime It's sort of like reluctantly following U.S. orders to the minimum necessary with the greatest delay possible.
That's sort of their policy.
They try to appear like they're following their official line without really wanting to do it.
You know, that's what's happening here.
You've got to remember, the U.S. is sort of like the heart of darkness.
Things look worse from the point of view of within the United States.
I didn't know today was not gonna, uh, Alec Jones was not gonna be here, but there was an issue I wanted to bring up with him.
Because I feel that he has been manipulated by CIA propaganda when it comes to China.
jason bermas
Well, how so?
benjamin fulford
In particular, I wanted to discuss Falun Gong.
Falun Gong is not a typical religious organization, okay?
It's a psyops.
A very big one.
And it's run by a guy called Elliot Abrams, who's a convicted criminal in the Iran-Contra affair.
And you can prove that Falun Gong is a psyops just by looking at their financing.
Look at their bi-monthly, called Epoch Times, and see who publishes it, and why it's published in seven languages.
You know, they have Sound of Hope.
It's a radio that they broadcast, which is helped by the Broadcasting Board of Governors.
These are the same people as behind Voice of America, Radio Star, Radio Marquee.
In other words, it's a CIA front, and put in place by Elliott Abrams.
And then we have a television thing called New Tang Dynasty.
And again, it's also CIA financed.
So, whenever Al Jones says, you know, The Chinese are a fascist regime and the U.S. is headed for the same path.
He is unwittingly, you know, spreading CIA propaganda.
jason bermas
Well, I mean, I certainly don't want to be more like China.
I feel like, you know, China is somewhat of a police state.
The military and the police are one and the same.
benjamin fulford
Have you been to China?
jason bermas
I have not been to China.
benjamin fulford
Well, that's why you don't understand.
You go to China, okay, and hang out in the street with the Chinese, and see what it's like to live there, and then talk about it, okay?
The fact is that when it comes to the average Chinese now, they are freer than the average American.
Now, it is true they don't have this big parade and this big fake show called Democracy Unlearned in the U.S., but you're aware enough now that it's a totally rigged BS show.
In the U.S., right?
jason bermas
Oh, absolutely, but I just think that there has to be some kind of a separation between the military and police, and once you lose that, I mean, you get into dangerous territories.
I mean, they openly sell dissidents' organs on the open market in China.
benjamin fulford
Okay, the thing about this whole, for example, Falun Gong dissidents' organs thing, okay, that has been proven to be false, okay?
There was a U.S. CIA fake story about that.
And the Chinese invited the international media to visit the hospitals where this was supposed to be taking place or whatever.
It is true that for a while they were selling the organs of condemned criminals.
unidentified
Okay? Yeah.
benjamin fulford
And this became a source of major criticism and they put an end to it.
Okay? But the idea that they're taking fallen gong people and just selling their organs and torturing them, that has been proven to be false.
jason bermas
Well, I'll have to look into it.
I mean, I'm looking at the Epoch Times right now.
They're talking about Oregon harvesting China's labor.
benjamin fulford
Yeah, Epoch Times again.
I mean, when you're reading a CIA paper, of course you're gonna read shit like that.
I mean, stuff like that.
I'm sorry.
jason bermas
Okay. Well, you know, again, I don't know enough about it, and you kind of put me on the spot here for that, so I'll have to look into it.
I gotta tell you, I can't see Myself comfortable in a more eastern eye society.
I see both cultures kind of gravitating towards one another, which scares me.
I mean, in the last 20 to 30 years, I mean, we're talking about blue jeans, Coca-Cola over there, obviously, a lot of, you know, westernized eateries or whatever.
And over here, I see more of a police state.
And I'm sorry, I just don't know if I would be comfortable with, again, the military being the police, especially The way the military is set up in this country.
I think that's a very thin line.
And I know that China has kind of been endeared over the past ten years being beginning to be accepted in global organizations, you know, NATO, the UN, and now, you know, hosting the Olympics.
So, you know, obviously, my beef is not with every Chinese citizen, and I truly don't know how much freedom a Chinese citizen has on the street, but I do know that they do have a lot of one-child policies.
benjamin fulford
Well, the one child policy is being phased out, but the other...
unidentified
We'll come back to you on the other side.
jason bermas
I'm going to give you the floor.
We'd love to hear from you.
I love your perspective.
This is the Alex Jones Show.
You go to InfoWars.com right now and check out Loose Change, Final Cut, or Fabled Enemies.
We'll be back after this.
unidentified
We'll be back after this.
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unidentified
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Don't want no shackles.
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It is the Alex Jones Show and ask and you shall receive Benjamin.
Alex has called in.
He just can't get away from that radio.
He loves to listen in.
So Alex, you have the floor.
alex jones
Hey guys, so I'm the one that told my producer to get Benjamin back on.
I like Mr. Fulford.
And I'm here getting ready to go to Denver, packing up and taking care of business with a show on the background.
And I think it's been misrepresented what I say and what I do.
A similar thing as what Tarpley did last year when I had former CIA section chief and black op commander E. Howard Hunt's son on St.
John Hunt, and he released that tape on our show, and the Rolling Stone also covered it, just saying as far as he knew, the chain of command went all the way to President LBJ.
And people said, oh, Alex says it went to LBJ and no higher.
No, that's a misrepresentation.
With our witness and the tape and the written transcripts and affidavits, he's saying that's as high as his chain of command went.
So that's as high, like in a mob organization that we were investigating it, as high as our investigation went.
Obviously, we know LBJ was a puppet to big banks and Texas oil a lot more.
Now, on the subject of China, China has medical firms that advertise they sell organs, they carried out the attacks in Tiananmen Square.
Now, it's true China doesn't have as many face-scanning cameras, though they're putting in national ID cards.
The Chinese government's announced that people's daily.
And so the West has a bigger grid in place, a police state grid and secret police.
They just haven't started the mass arrests and executions.
But, I mean, you can go to Chinese government websites with the public executions and the lining the people up and shooting them in the work camps.
Now, is China generally as bad as?
we're told?
Certainly not.
I've never been to China.
I've just interviewed hundreds and hundreds of experts, people who are even pro-China.
I've had a lot of guests on, like yourself, Mr.
Fulford, that tell us all about it.
You know, us troglodytes over here that have never been around the world.
The point is, is that instead of this, I mean, I understand you are the authority, but you're a guest here, and so we just have you here to give to your website and what you're doing.
We're not spreading CIA disinformation.
I mean, I say Putin's bad.
I say China's bad.
Iran does a lot of bad things.
Most governments are evil and corrupt, so we're not saying U.S.
good, China bad here.
And so, you know, that's my bottom line.
You said they're not Harvesting organs?
I mean, that's just not true.
benjamin fulford
Well, no, they used to be doing it, okay?
That's a fact.
And they investigated it once it was reported, and they put an end to it.
But their original thinking was, well, this guy's gonna be executed anyway, why don't we take his organs?
But then there was some corruption, and there was an investigation.
You gotta remember, it's a country of 1.3 billion people, and a lot of funky stuff will happen among that many people.
alex jones
I know, and the Chinese government says Mao was bad, and evil, and his wife was bad, and imprisoned her, and most Americans don't know that.
For killing 60 million.
I know China's gone through changes.
unidentified
I know your buddy's well.
No, no, no, no.
benjamin fulford
I think, imagine if you were, okay, during Mao's era, okay?
You could not choose what you wore.
You could not choose what you read or information.
And you could not choose where you lived or what job you did, okay?
That was how, it was a real police state.
alex jones
And that- No, no, no, I'm just saying I know history.
I knew you'd say that, and that's true.
So our modern image of China is the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, the Little Red Book.
They're becoming a more high-tech grid like we are.
You're right, for a while, in many, I mean, they've had riots there, as you know, when they put surveillance cameras in.
The farmers with pitchforks are beating armed police, so I'm not disagreeing with you.
I don't know who told you that I was saying that...
benjamin fulford
Okay, anyway, look, the fact is that it is not a democracy.
However, the people who now run the show, okay, they're the direct heirs of Deng Xiaoping and Zhou Enlai, okay?
Now, Zhou Enlai was a member of the Secret Society, and they have beliefs They're very, very similar to Christianity.
And they want to help the weakest and the poorest.
And the fact is that, you know, for the vast majority of the Chinese, life has gotten a lot better over the past 20 years.
unidentified
No, it hasn't.
alex jones
And are you saying that it's the same secret society that launched the Boxer Rebellion?
benjamin fulford
Well, yes.
I mean, what you have in China, it's a very interesting situation.
They've always had an official public like the mainstream media have in the U.S.
But they've also had a secret worldview that has been opposed to it.
And they've had this for thousands of years.
And so when the official view becomes too out of touch with the people, there is a massive peasant revolt that has been throughout history.
alex jones
And it also happened in the Middle Ages in Europe, peasant revolt.
That's what castles were built, of course, to protect against the local serfs for the nobility.
Look, I'm going to let you go, Benjamin.
I just, you know, all I've done is help you out.
So I guess I'm evil.
benjamin fulford
I really want you to China.
I'll arrange for you to have most of the access if you ever decide to make a trip to China, okay?
alex jones
Yeah. Well, listen, I'm going to let Burma take it back over, folks.
You guys take care.
unidentified
All right.
We'll be back after this.
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jason bermas
All right, folks, we are back.
It's the Alex Jones Show.
I'm Jason Bermas sitting in with Benjamin Fulford.
And, Benjamin, I want to get your take on I was obsessed with the idea as a youth that World War III would be between the West and China.
benjamin fulford
I was sure of it.
That's why I came over here when I was 19. That was 28 years ago.
So I've been living in Asia.
I speak Chinese and Japanese, and I've been visiting China.
I went all over, you know, and talked to their leaders and leaders in Japan.
After all that time, I have come to the conclusion that China is not a threat.
You've got to think of China like a beautiful woman or a handsome man who wants to have children with you and make love to you, and they'll only hurt you if you hurt them first.
And that is something that, you know, I didn't come to over 10 years ago.
You know, immediately.
It took me decades of studying the place and being there to understand this.
So, from that perspective, and I think if you talk to anybody who's been out here for 20 years or speaks a language, they'll agree with you.
They're not a threat.
They really are not.
And the regime that was under Mao was a New World Order-type regime controlled by the Illuminati, and the current regime is not.
That much, also, I guarantee you.
I'm not saying they're perfect, you know, there's a lot of problems there, but right now, I'll be honest with you, I'd rather live in China than I would in the U.S. Well, things are getting pretty scary in the United States, there's no doubt about it, I mean, we'll see what happens at the DNC, but it looks like it's going to be martial law there.
Well, here's what's happening with the United States, and this is very, very important, this is one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you people, is that on September 30th, okay, that's about a month from now, The United States government is going to go bankrupt, according to many sources of mine.
It's the end of the fiscal year for the U.S. government, and the Bush regime and the neo-Nazi faction that we know as neocons are cornered, okay?
They are in deep trouble.
They have been isolated from the rest of the secret government of the West, and they're saying to them, look, you've stolen a bunch of money from England, you've stolen a bunch of money from Europe, you've stolen a bunch of money from the whole world.
And you have until September 30th to pay back.
They don't have that money, and they're hoping to use that occasion of bankruptcy to start martial law in the United States.
And they have 190,000 mercenaries working for Blackwater, who earn $1,000 a day, who are going to be the troops who are supposed to impose martial law in the United States.
Now, the whole world is concerned about this, and I am very concerned about this.
And there are a lot of forces who are lining up to try to stop this from happening in the U.S. Now, they tried to start World War III over Iran, and that didn't work.
Now, the talk is that they're going to try to provoke Russia into attacking Poland.
And they put these outdated Patriot missile defenses in Poland as a provocation.
But the real story is they want the Russians to attack so that they can unleash They're Star Wars weaponry they have in space.
And they want a few Russian nukes to get through before they start this whole, you know, operation of pulverizing Russia.
But in other words, they are people who have survived by fomenting wars and selling weapons.
And they are cornered, and the only way they can think of getting themselves out of the hole they're in is to start World War III.
So the important thing is not to give them any excuse to start World War III We have to get them to step aside peacefully.
And to all those Blackwater mercenaries, I would like to say right now, uh, if you really want to kill your own people, go ahead and do so.
But we'll offer you twice the pay.
Twice what they're paying you to stop them.
That's an offer.
You come to China, Mr. Head of Blackwater, whatever, we'll pay your mercenaries double.
Not to impose martial law on behalf of the British people.
jason bermas
Well, it's definitely going to be a privatized military faction that does so, if they do declare martial law on this country.
You know, I'm quite alarmed by the fact that Halliburton moved their main base of operations out of the United States and into Dubai.
Do you think that these people will start to leave the country before this disaster happens?
You're saying September 30th?
benjamin fulford
September 30th is a date a lot of people have been telling me is a crucial date because of this Apparently the BIS, the Bank for International Settlements, which is based in Switzerland, which has always been known as Headquarters Central, the secret government, has split with the Bush faction and the Nazi faction that control, Well, they control the U.K., Canada, the United States, and Australia at this point.
jason bermas
So you feel like the continuity of government program, the shadow government, bunker government in this country has now parted ways with the Bush faction, even though in the 80s, you know, George Herbert Walker Bush is the one that restructured the entire COG program through the National Programs Office into CIA, FEMA, all these other agencies, and it was really the birth of the sole source contract, only instead of actually just, you know, putting it out there like Halliburton did, it was kept under wraps.
benjamin fulford
Well, what I'm saying is that there's a significant group within the United States, inside the intelligence establishment, that are opposed to these people.
And they're very concerned.
They've been telling me that they have either arrested or killed 20 Air Force generals in the past month.
And they're worried about a similar purge at the Pentagon.
So, in other words, a lot of these people at the super-secret programs, who've been off, you know, exploring the universe and doing whatever they had, and not being too concerned, are suddenly very, very worried and opposed to these people.
And they've been asking for help from the rest of the world.
So, what I'm saying is that the secret government of the U.S., the black ops people, are split now, between what you could call the white hats and the black hats.
You know, enough of them are really, really worried about September 30th, and they really have had enough of these Nazis, and that's what they are.
They discovered documents at the end of World War II, written by the Nazis, which said, for us, the war never ended.
And they've been plotting this, turning the U.S. into a fascist Nazi republic ever since.
And, as you know, Bush's grandfather was a major financer of the Nazis, and they brought over all the Nazis After World War II in an operation called Operation Paperclip, the ones who couldn't be brought to the U.S. were sent to South America.
They've been planning this for a long time.
jason bermas
Well, you're correct on that.
There's no doubt that through union banking and others, Prescott Bush funneled Nazi money before and after World War II into this country.
He was arrested under the Trading with the Enemies Act by J. Edgar Hoover.
And yeah, you're correct again on Project Paperclip, which is still not all the way declassified.
I mean, our entire, you know, Yeah.
So, you know, I don't really put anything past these guys.
I just, you know, obviously September 30th is not that far away.
We're talking about a really a two-month, not even a two-month, a one-month time frame here.
benjamin fulford
I mean, the good thing about having this day is that it's a clear measure, I mean, you know, indicator.
Like, it's not something vague, right?
But the same people have been warning me since last summer, right?
Last summer there was, you might recall, constant sort of screaming about Iran.
And they were stopped by the people in the Pentagon from attacking Iran.
And now they're still trying to provoke something, but this time it's with Russia.
But I believe that there is actually a majority in the CIA, the NSA, all these black ops people who basically are sick of these Nazis.
So I do believe that there will be a coup d'etat against them.
And that's the people who've been contacting me who want to stop these people before they do their crazy stuff after September 30th.
jason bermas
So do you believe, you don't even think there's going to be an election this year then?
benjamin fulford
It all depends.
I mean, apparently the United States is in a very deep financial crisis, and the people who cause this crisis and bankrupt the United States do not want an election.
They want martial law, they want to put Chertoff in as a dictator, and they're looking for an excuse.
And if these people are allowed to get their way, there will not be an election.
But if the majority within the intelligence communities and the Pentagon stuff stop them, then there will be an election and eventually we'll have these people arrested and there'll be a, you know, the brainwashed masses will finally Well, my worry is even with an election, I don't see Barack Obama saving us, man.
jason bermas
I see him as another side to the same coin.
I mean, he, you know, he went down to Bilderberg right when it happened.
He snuck away from the press corps for this.
He's got Brzezinski, or had Brzezinski on his team, you know, of advisors.
I think he's slick.
He doesn't really say a lot.
He seems to toe the party line, and I feel like he wants expansion in Eurasia.
And his speech in Berlin Was downright scary where he said that the global citizen would be expected to do more, not less, in the future.
benjamin fulford
Well, he's definitely a hired actor reading a script.
Now, he works for the left wing of the CIA, which is the people under Brzezinski and their crew.
But I don't think, in the end of the day, it really matters, because The U.S. is no longer going to be able to call the shots.
You see, the reason why the U.S. is over or finished as a superpower is very simple.
If you look at history, any superpower that relied on debt ended quickly.
The Spaniards, their empire was based on debt and it collapsed.
The Swedish empire was based on debt and it collapsed.
The United States has been asking the rest of the world to finance them for 40 years.
Now, there was a long time when they believed the U.S. was a benevolent force.
They liked the Americans and they were happy to pay for them to be the world's police.
But that situation has ended.
They don't want to keep financing these people because they have become the world's number one source of terrorism.
I mean, the United States is a rogue state.
That's how the rest of the world looks at them.
And they're saying, why should we finance these guys when they're out there creating diseases?
Creating fake terrorist crises all over the world.
They have 800 military bases.
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I mean, they're a country gone berserk.
benjamin fulford
And they rely on us to pay for it.
And we say, well no, let's not pay for it anymore.
Let's ask them to straighten themselves out.
That's what's been happening.
Seen from outside of the United States, the world is very, very different.
jason bermas
You know, the only problem with that is, and I totally agree with you, that obviously the world no longer wants to finance that, is that we now live in an age which is very different than 50 years ago.
I mean, our military power has really surpassed that of anything that has come before it.
And like you said, we have private mercenary forces, and we also have a lot of technology at our disposal that other countries do not.
Obviously, Russia is a nuclear power and would give us a run for our money, but You know, I don't see much of Europe being able to give us a run for money.
I'm not even sure that, when it all comes down to it, someone like China could give us a run for our money.
I mean, I'm pretty scared at what these people will do when their back is right up against that wall, and there is no more funding, and there is that threat that they might actually have to go to an international tribunal.
You know, will they just pull out all the stops with their military power?
benjamin fulford
Well, here's the, you know, the point of this is that, unlike the case of the Nazis, nobody's going to be arrested for following orders.
And they're not facing a death penalty or anything, they're just facing a loss of power.
And what these people, you know, their secret flaw is this, is that their organization, this sort of Luciferian group that is behind the Neo-Nazis, who call themselves Neocons, is that they have a very, very highly centralized system of authority.
So, at the end of the day, all you have to do is assassinate about five old men.
Maybe 50 to put an end to it.
So, nobody's gonna fight their hired mercenaries.
They're gonna go straight for the eye.
We're talking Papa Bush, Bill Clinton, we're talking Chertoff, Cheney, Blair, the Black Pope in Rome.
We're talking just a few people.
So, you know, it's At the end of the day, you've just got to take down those men, and it's finished.
jason bermas
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I always see power, you know, corrupting itself, so say you take those guys out, I mean, this organization spans out.
I mean, if you just look at, say, the Billerberg Group, that kind of thing, that's 144 people.
Now, those 144 people meet for a weekend.
Now, a month or two later, they go to Bohemian Grove, at least a month or two later.
A large portion of them do, and they disperse their agenda to 3,000 others.
You know, and of course this is compartmentalized, and, you know, nobody knows the entire plan, but I see those other 3,000 people as clawing for power, and after, say, the top 50 or top 100 are no longer with us, you know, they'll just gravitate towards that power as well.
I'm not so sure that's the way that we'll be able to defeat this thing.
benjamin fulford
Well, you know, that's an interesting point, and I think that you have to understand, and here's where I want to get back to the Chinese system, Mike, where ideally, and I'm hoping this is how the Chinese system will continue evolving, but it'll evolve in this way, it'll be a little bit like, you know, one of these contests they have to find the best singer or whatever?
Anybody can try for it.
And they can fight their way up to the top, sort of like a sperm fighter's way to get into the egg, right?
There's a hundred million sperm per ejaculation, only one gets to get into the egg, right?
But they're each given the same chance to get there.
If you have a situation where people can put out their ideas, this is how I think we should run the planet, this is how we should run the country, and it's free and open, and it's chosen in that manner, I think that is the future of democracy.
It'll be a system where, sure, There will be an elite of a few thousand at the top, but it'll be a transparent area where we can see them, and they can agree with them and follow them, or else they can fight them and have a chance to take over and kick them out of place.
That is the sort of system I'm hoping will replace the one where they do it in secret and you don't know what they're debating, what they're thinking.
And that's the problem.
jason bermas
Well, obviously I want as much transparency as possible, and I think that these meetings Like the Builder Bear Group are quite treasonous.
I mean, they violate the Logan Act and everything else.
But those are the ones that we know about.
I mean, we don't know about all the think tanks out there that sit in an NSA room and they're just like top-level generals and they sign off a piece of paper and they put out all these ideas.
And then those ideas, say they come up with 20 of them, it's one guy that basically says, you know, I think that one's good.
I mean, if you look at the Northwoods proposal, for instance, I mean, they had about 13 or 14 different proposals.
None of them were actually used for what they wanted.
You know, Kennedy was then killed less than a year later.
But they proposed a lot of things.
Had they gone through with Northwoods, I highly doubt they would have done everything there.
So, I mean, I'm with you, Benjamin.
I want more transparency.
You know, I don't think that they should be able to hide behind the veil of not only secret societies, but national security and classified documents.
But how are we going to get there?
I mean, a lot of people are going to propose that the only way we can get there, Benjamin, and I'll get your take in the last segment after this, is through one world government.
I mean, that's what I'm sitting here fighting.
I don't want to see one world government.
I don't want to see more power to the United Nations or a global body like that.
I'm sort of a nationalist.
But we'll come back and get your take.
Fulford.com, InfoWars.com.
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I am Jason Burmess, subbing in for the rest of the week.
I'll be on the Sunday show and I'll be through Thursday at the DNC with Alex reporting live.
We are in our final segment with Benjamin Fulford of BenjaminFulford.com if you want the English version, it's slash indexenglish.html.
And really I just want to get your final, I mean you've said a lot here today, I mean, if what you say happens on September 30th, We could be in for an entire global restructuring, really.
And it's pretty scary, but why don't you just wrap it up for us?
What are your predictions for the next six months, Benjamin?
benjamin fulford
Well, I don't want to predict it right now because we're headed for some very turbulent times, and it's not exactly clear how it will work out, but my overall understanding is that we're going to come to an end of the secret government of the West ruling the planet.
Now, you talked about a world government, and I'll be honest with you, I'm actually in favor of a world government.
However, I don't want a world government controlled in secret by a bunch of inbred European and American families that, you know, manipulate the rest of humanity for their own personal ends.
But we do have some problems On this planet that can only be solved if we think of us as living on one planet and not as separate.
jason bermas
Well, what do you think those problems are?
benjamin fulford
Well, for example, we've had something like 20 to 30 percent of all living species on this planet gone extinct in the past century.
That's a problem.
You have these oceans that nobody has authority over, being overfished, and so we're sitting around fishing the oceans.
We have 50 million people dying a year of starvation.
We need a very minimal structure so that, for example, countries where they have a problem with each other, they don't go to war, they sue each other.
There's an international court where you can sue if they think they're messing with you, and you can trust that court.
And then you need an international organization to take care of the environment.
And finally, something to step in when people are dying in large numbers in order to stop them from dying.
Very minimal.
jason bermas
Well, let me just take issue with the environmental thing.
You know, first of all, I'm not, you know, one of those guys that thinks we should pollute the environment all over and do whatever we want.
There should definitely be regulations.
But over the last 20 years, I mean, I can say in my personal life, I was fear-mongered as a child into, you know, global warming and all these horrors.
And by the time I was going to be 30 years old, it was going to be 10 to 20 degrees hotter and maybe even worse than that.
And now they're talking about a carbon footprint and us paying this carbon tax and limiting our water and saying, you know, if you have too much garbage or you have two cars, you're going to be paying taxes on those.
Okay, well, you know, the global warming thing is a great con job by the nuclear industry, okay? To create the image that nuclear technologies Green and environmental-friendly.
benjamin fulford
And they have hijacked the environmental movement for very sinister ends.
Look, the amount of carbon dioxide that humans have added, so-called added, to the environment since the beginning of industrialization is 100 ppm, which is 1 ten-thousandth of the atmosphere.
So anybody out there who wants to, they can do this experiment.
Take a thermometer, go to a bar, Light a cigarette, okay?
That's CO2 that's coming out of the end of that cigarette.
And see if the bar gets hotter.
It won't, okay?
So, I don't subscribe to that CO2 nonsense, okay?
And I deeply regret the environmental movement has been hijacked by these nuclear...
jason bermas
90% of them are into that.
That's the problem.
benjamin fulford
Yeah, what I'm talking about is a third world farmer who has a choice, whose only choice is to burn down a rainforest, All right, Benjamin, you can't be accused of being boring.
jason bermas
Thank you for joining us.
This is the Alex Jones Show.
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jason bermas
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
It is the 22nd day of August 2008, a Friday.
And, uh, what an interview there, boy.
alex jones
Fireworks flew.
jason bermas
You know, I'm just not a one-worlder, I guess.
I just, you know, I guess the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and I just don't see how global government is going to work without being totally tyrannical and corrupt at some point.
It may start out nice, who knows?
Uh, but it is not going to end up nice.
It's going to end up on a crazy technocratic society, in my opinion.
I mean, I'm sitting here, and let me, let me go through this little article, because it's just totally ridiculous.
We were just talking about the carbon footprint, and we are totally being conditioned to live, uh, with less and pay more.
Okay. Eco-communities living the green life.
It's out of CNN Technology, it's out of London, England, and they're going to tell you it's not so bad, it's great!
And show you a couple pictures.
Your houses are right on top of each other, just like any little community.
Little, uh...
Suburban area.
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But as today's urbanese become more concerned about the reducting their carbon footprints...
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So they're gonna mandate how you live, how close your house has to be to another one.
There'll be no private property, it just totally makes me sick.
That's just one example, you know?
And as far as there not being an election, I'm sorry, I really do believe there is going to be an election.
I believe they're going for broke with Obama.
Alright, and now they're putting out his short list of candidates.
He's got a short list now.
Some of the people I recognized to be his VP were Carbon Footprint guy Chris Dodd.
You know, he's proposed it.
People like Wesley Clark, who Alex ranted about earlier this week.
Not a good guy.
Of course, Joe Biden.
Bill Richardson, who was in a lot of the Democratic debates there.
At a New Mexico.
Uh, Sam Nunn, Chuck Hagel, we're all big buddies of Chuck Hagel, Chet Edwards, and that Bane gentleman they've been talking about.
I guess Kathleen, uh, Sibelius is another one too, but we'll see.
Actually, is Kathleen Sibelius?
Yeah, she's the Kansas governor.
I'm pretty sure she's the Bilderberg chick.
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You know, he might shock the world, and instead of, uh, Evan Bay or Joseph Biden or Tim Kaine, go with Kathleen Sibelius.
jason bermas
That wouldn't, that would not shock me.
I could see that happening.
Of course Hillary's on the list, I forgot to say.
Of course Hillary is on the list.
So for the next hour, folks, I'm going to be taking your calls and playing some clips.
Maybe talking a little bit of 7, but before I talk a little bit of 7, we're going to play a clip out of Terror Storm in the next segment.
We're also going to play this clip where the CNN reporter has to criticize the TSA because he's on a terror watch list, and then he goes through three other gentlemen Who obviously should not be on a terror watch list.
And they're always going, Oh, we're so inept!
Oh, we just can't do anything right.
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jason bermas
Chertoff will sit there and be like, Oh, we just can't, we can't really make sure.
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Unless we have some biometrics.
jason bermas
I mean, it's so evil.
It's like, well, you already took the one step.
You're already going through the TSA.
You already have to have an identification.
But now, you know, we're going to train you to be on the, uh, The good time fly list, you know?
The frequent flyer, the not-a-threat passenger list.
And, uh, that'll be easy.
All you gotta do is give us your fingerprints and maybe just a little bit of DNA and a retina scan, no big deal.
And if you wanna just forego the whole process together, all together, and just go through a little boop and drop off your luggage, you don't have to go through the whole thing and be screened.
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Maybe, maybe you'll take this nice little chip we'll put in you.
jason bermas
So we'll be back with that CNN report and a little bit of Terror Storm on the other side.
It is the Alex Jones Show.
I'm Jason Burmess.
Fabled Enemies is dropping September 1st.
That's when we're going to be mailing them out.
And folks, you can see a little sneak peek on the internet right now.
You can see two of the trailers.
We're going to be releasing more as the week goes on.
I'm Jason Bermas, InfoWars.com.
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I'm Jason Bermas.
tom brokaw
Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
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The enemy struck America on September 11th.
But who is the enemy?
Bin Laden.
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Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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Alright, folks, we are back.
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I'm Jason Burmiss.
You can get at me at myspace.com slash jason burmiss or you can add my film, Fabled Enemies, myspace.com slash fabled enemies.
Of course, we have a couple trailers out there.
We'll probably play one or two of those later in the show, but I want to play this clip where a CNN reporter is on the terror watch list.
It's about four and a half minutes, and not only is he on the terror watch list, but so is a three-year-old child.
See, they kind of make it funny, but really, listen.
unidentified
Because they want more and more and more.
jason bermas
And their excuse is always, we're inept.
So let's go to that clip.
unidentified
Just crossing the half hour, the next time you find yourself at the airport ticket counter, you might be in for a surprise because you could be on the terror watch list.
The new ACLU report says one million people are on it.
One of them, Drew Griffin of CNN's Special Investigations Unit.
And as he tells us now, while the threat posed by many of those on the list is imaginary, the half hour The hassle that they go through is all too real.
Washington attorney Jim Robinson is a former assistant attorney general.
He's a former U.S. attorney from Michigan.
He holds a high-level government security clearance, and he's a former law school dean, a husband, a granddad, and American.
And he gets delayed, if not stopped, every time he gets on a plane.
Why? Because Robinson is also one of the estimated 1 million names now on the terror watch list.
So it seems, for years now, despite my best efforts to get off.
This week, Robinson joined the ACLU in Washington to mark what the group calls a ridiculous milestone.
A million names the government believes match known terrorists.
And according to the ACLU, 20,000 new names, like Robinson's, are added every month.
That means there must be about 950 to 75,000 people who don't belong on this list who are somehow caught in the mire of doing this.
What does it mean?
It means because of his name, he can't check into flights electronically.
He can't check bags at the curb, can't check in at one of the new speedy airport kiosks.
Every time he travels, he and a million others need to wait in line.
And see somebody who then has to make a call and determine that apparently I am not the James Kenneth Robinson who is the cause of my being on the watch list.
I'm going to Chicago this morning.
Don't think it can happen to you.
It's happening to me.
I'm on the watch list.
My watch list?
So how did I get on this list?
Well, the TSA is adamant it's not even me, even though it is me getting stopped at the airports.
The TSA says it's the airlines fault.
The airlines say they're just following the list provided to them by the TSA.
And coincidentally, this all began in May, shortly after I began a series of investigative reports critical of the TSA.
Eleven flights now since May 19th.
On different airlines, my name pops up, forcing me to go to the counter, show my identification.
Sometimes the agent has to make a call before I get my ticket.
It's a hassle.
What does the TSA say?
Nothing, at least nothing on camera.
Over the phone, a public affairs worker told me, again, I'm not on the watch list, and don't even think that someone in the TSA or anyone else is trying to get even.
So if there's any thought or shadow of a thought that TSA somehow put you on a watch list because of your reporting, it is absolutely fabricated.
Jim Robinson, who served two Democratic presidents, says he's trying not to think politics is involved either.
I don't feel safer because I have to go through this hassle, I can tell you that.
The ACLU's technology chief, Barry Steinhardt, says the list is so secretive and yet so shoddily put together, it's hard to tell how it's being used or abused.
The truth is we really don't know how much is bureaucratic ineptness and how much is political retaliation.
Even more frustrating than being on it is trying to get off.
According to the TSA, you fill out a form online, which I did on May 28th.
You then copy personal documents, fill out another form, and send them to Homeland Security, which I also did on May 28th, and then apparently you wait.
Robinson has been waiting now three years.
On May 2nd, 2005, I filled out all their forms, made a copy of my passport, my driver's license, my voter's registration card, put it in a package, and sent it off to TSA.
jason bermas
All right, cut the clip.
unidentified
Never heard back.
jason bermas
See, there you go.
He did everything they asked him.
See, this is a clip before the Chertoff one where they followed up, and the guy is still on the TSA's phone.
Hello? Yeah, fine, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
You know these biometrics, they, under Hitler even, I mean, they checked in Tibet, they checked humans for all their facial characters and stuff, and then they were breeding the Aryan race.
Which is, I think, they're clowns, the whole thing, you know, Bush and, and, and the lot, and the, um, the, um, English Queen.
I think it mainly comes from the English Queen, which has spread her own following.
You know, there are people I used to live in England.
I also lived in America, you know.
There's people that are definitely different.
jason bermas
So you're saying that they're using biometrics?
I mean, that's the plan.
Thank you for the call.
I mean, obviously they want to expand biometrics to everywhere.
Over in London, I think it's something like 300 plus cameras a day that photograph and tape you.
It's probably more than that.
I think that was like a 2006 number.
And you're seeing that expansion now in the States.
You know, Alex had the, what was it, the Austin Sheriff in here, Acevedo, and he was talking about, you know, plate scanning cameras.
Let's put them in.
You know, we're just going to get speeders with them.
Yeah, right.
Come on.
They're going to take a database.
On the Discovery Channel, all the things that happen in Europe, how they use the facial recognition over there.
So it's done quite a lot.
It's expanding.
And I see it coming into the airports rather quickly.
I mean, we already have these.
Basically, you're shown naked.
I mean, it's an x-ray, but it's not an x-ray that sees your bones.
It's an x-ray that goes around the entire contour of your body, whatever clothes you're wearing, whatever devices are on you at the time.
Alright, let's jump to J.D. in Texas.
What's up, J.D.?
unidentified
Uh, Jason?
Uh, is Benjamin still with you?
jason bermas
Uh, no.
He dropped after the hour.
What were your thoughts on that interview?
unidentified
Well, uh, when I heard him speaking, all I could think about was, um, Senator, um, Trader McCain.
jason bermas
And why's that?
unidentified
Well, I just wanted to tell him if I decided to betray my country, I could live very comfortable in China also.
Just like McCain did when he was in North Vietnam.
He lived like a king compared to the other prisoners out there.
And it's very obvious that Benjamin is not a Christian, and because He has no compassion for the thousands of and millions of Christians that was murdered and persecuted in China.
jason bermas
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I guess that he has this whole, you know, perspective of China living there for so long is kind of endeared by the beauty of the country.
But I'm sorry, I just can't get down with their government, although it's been more westernized.
Again, the police Well, that's the reason I say, evidently, Benjamin is not a Christian.
unidentified
He'd be bringing these things up and he wouldn't be living in China.
jason bermas
Alright, J.D., I thank you for the call.
Let's jump to Elliot in Ohio.
Elliot, are you with us?
unidentified
Yeah, Jason, how are you doing?
jason bermas
Good, man.
What's popping?
unidentified
Well, I remember actually watching one of Benjamin's little lectures or just Just, you know, there's a video he posted online and maybe on his website, and he was explaining how he's researched and been a part of, or at least been able to participate and get firsthand, like, observations of the secret societies of the East.
And in China, apparently, he was saying that the Chinese and the Eastern secret societies are now Uh, vying for power, really, with the West, with the Rockefellers, with the Rothschilds, because the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, and all the secret societies that boil down from them are now trying to, in a sense, engulf and take over and achieve more power than secret societies in the East.
So what he said when he's like, uh, we'll pay you, like, double, you know, for the mercenaries, yeah, it may be good.
I mean, just, you know, for a quick fix to get us out of, you know, martial law.
And again, you have to be careful, because if they are vying for such a power, if they still want one world government, and you have mercenaries now working for China, Now you got Chinese mercenaries in the U.S. government, so...
jason bermas
Yeah, definitely.
unidentified
I mean, like, it's just...
You know what?
I will agree with him on this.
It would be nice to have some help if Martial Law ever came in to play and civil unrest took form.
It would be nice to have some assistance from Black Ops, you know, ex-military-like people versus us just being, you know, a militia.
We can have some military men in there.
But then again, right afterwards, you gotta crack down, you gotta make sure you are prepared to fight against them, because I don't trust Mercenaries.
Mercenaries, no.
jason bermas
No, me neither.
Elliot, I thank you for the call.
We'll be back after this.
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We'll see you after the break.
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Alright, we are back at the Alex Jones Show.
I am Jason Burmas, sitting in for Alex for the rest of the week, doing the Sunday Show going through Thursday.
But remember folks, he's going to be down at the DNC.
And, uh, not only is he doing the DNC, but he's also doing a couple screenings of Truth Rising with Luke Rudowsky.
I mean, it's gonna be huge at the DNC, and like I said, Alex, uh, today earlier debated, uh, the head of Recreate 68, and hopefully we can get a clip of that.
If we can't get a clip of it, uh, today, we will definitely get a clip of it for the Sunday program.
And I am just psyched up for the DNC.
I think there's gonna be big fireworks there.
I mean, they have geared up for a total police state down there.
Uh, we're talking Beyond rubber bullets, beyond riot gear, we're talking microwave weapons, we're talking black helicopters, we're talking detention centers, much like the RNC in New York.
But, you know, Jonathan Elenof, as crazy as he is, was able to get a permit at the park right across the street, so hopefully we will not be put into some lame free speech zone.
In fact, hopefully, we will have our voice heard at this conference.
From what I hear, Nader's gonna be there, and a ton of other people.
Just a ton of other people.
I mean, obviously, Kucinich is going to be there, which is interesting.
I know that McKinney is going to be down in New York.
Another event Alex is going to be going to is New York City this year.
And before I take some more callers, I want to let everybody know that, yes, John McCain and Barack Obama will be in New York City, probably close to Ground Zero.
I'm not sure where it is yet.
But they will both be in New York City on 9-11 to grandstand.
Let me read it.
U.S. presidential candidates Barack Obama and John McCain have agreed to speak at the New York City Forum on Public Service to be held on September 11th.
The organizer said Thursday.
You know, Manny Baddio, if you're listening, try to get tickets to this.
You're a family member.
You need to be there to ask some serious questions.
You know, McCain's dodged every single one.
Luke did get on really good in Truth Rising.
It's also a YouTube clip where he asks him, what do you think about the 9-11 commission report, seeing as they came out and said, yeah, we were set up to fail.
And he just gives a little, oh, wow, he got me there.
All right, let's jump to some more callers.
You know, we know about the McCain-Obama grandstanding, the big show.
It kind of makes me sick that they're going to go down to New York, but maybe I'll get lucky and see one of them get them on camera.
All right, let's go to Eric in Philly.
Eric, what's on your mind?
unidentified
And...
Hey Jason, big fan buddy.
I really think Alex made a good decision having you fill in for him.
I went to the InfoWars store.
And I saw something very outrageous.
jason bermas
Let's hear it.
unidentified
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jason bermas
What's that, $20 off?
unidentified
Those films on DVD, the quality, man.
People, if you haven't seen them on DVD, man, I'm telling you.
Especially if you have like a home theater or something, you really get into the film.
jason bermas
Well, thanks, man.
I mean, you know, those movies are really good, and I'm a huge fan of Truth Rising.
I didn't have a lot to do with it other than getting some footage and just being down here while they were editing it.
I got to do the cover art or whatever.
But, I mean, it's just an excellent way to bring other people in.
I mean, some people aren't going to be as receptive to a road to tyranny, but when they see, hey, wow, this has Rosie O'Donnell and Martin Sheen and George Carlin, and they're all expressing these views I've never heard before.
And it's just edited together really well, and you have family members, and it's just an awesome movie.
And, you know, Loose Change Final Cut, I mean, it's the end-all be-all on the physical anomalies and other things on the World Trade Center.
I mean, we take the official story apart in a way that had never been done before, even with the second edition.
We didn't have as many interviews, we didn't have as many documents, we didn't have, you know, as much from the 9-11 Commission.
And now Fabled Enemies really goes into the international spiring, folks.
It really goes into the Israeli operatives, the Saudi Arabian funding, the funding from within this country, the continuity of government program that was in place in drills on the morning of 9-11 and then put into power that day.
You know, I talked a little about the National Programs Office with Benjamin Fulford, but all that stuff, man.
Thank you so much for promoting the flick.
What else is on your mind, Eric?
unidentified
Alright, also, uh, I go on Skype and I do Skypecasts, you know, talk to people around the world, and there was a Skypecast yesterday that was parading the new NIST report, saying how, how, mystery solved, you know?
So I went on there and I started debating with the guys, and then they started sending me the link to NIST.
Oh, you gotta watch the video, which, the proof, and I mean, I posted it on your MySpace, but you look at these videos, and I mean, it's like, come on!
jason bermas
Yeah, well...
unidentified
How phony do they think we are?
You look so phony!
jason bermas
You see in the...
You know what I'm talking about.
This is the 3D model we're now showing where the one column snaps off and then two of the sides on the other things begin to cave in internally.
And they basically say that the bottom Middle of the building is what went first.
But there's no physics applied to the actual models.
It is simply an animation put together.
I thank you for the call, Eric.
We're going to get deep into Building 7 later with Shane Geiger, who went all the way to Maryland to ask a question, only to have the lights turned off on him.
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The enemy struck America on September 11th.
But who is the enemy?
Bin Laden.
This is his M.O. We have to look to the Middle East.
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
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Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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I just want to thank Alex for all the opportunities he's given me over the last few months.
From hosting the show, to helping me put together this film, Fabled Enemies, that you can order right now at InfoWars.com.
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Of course, World Trade Center 7 NIST is a hot topic.
Elenov will be on at the top of the next hour.
We're going to have Geiger on about a half hour after that.
Of course, Bob Chapman will be popping in for his economic forecast for the next few weeks.
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All right, let's go to Guy in Florida.
Guy, are you with us?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
How are you today?
jason bermas
Good, man.
What's on your mind?
unidentified
Hey, man.
I just wanted to first thank you for Loose Change.
I mean, that is one of the greatest videos ever made, you know?
jason bermas
Well, thank you, brother.
unidentified
But I also just wanted to mention, Alex was on the show maybe two days ago.
He was bringing up the IMF, talking about economic depression is definitely imminent.
Can you speak upon that?
jason bermas
I mean, it's a definite possibility.
I mean, when you borrow all of this money and you continue to get into these international conflicts, I mean, let's just break down the Georgia situation right there.
In order for that to happen, we first, like Paul Craig Roberts said, we had to surround Russia.
Alright, so we've been doing that over the past few years with our NATO allies.
You know, NATO is supposed to be this peacekeeping force.
No, they're puppets of this globalist structure.
So on top of that, we bring in all this radar equipment.
Then we bring in U.S. Special Forces.
You know, I mean, we're thinning out on how much we're actually going to be able to afford in these military conflicts.
I mean, you look at Eurasia and we're trying to provoke an attack with Iran.
On top of that, the housing market here is no good.
We're building a trans-Texas corridor.
So yeah, I can see them pulling the plug.
I think they want to do it in a...
in a elongated period of time.
I don't think that they want to have a 1929-style crash.
I highly doubt that on September 30th the world is going to change and we're just going to have no money in this country.
But I think that we will see a gradual slide down this road.
You know, I think Alex is correct in his analysis that they'll throw us a few bones here and there.
I don't think so.
Uh, Mexico is going to be brought up, and obviously that'll be the merger for us, Mexico, and Canada, and possibly a parody on currency.
I mean, for those that don't know, our dollar is now worth less than the Canadian dollar after years of dominance, and the peso is creeping up.
Uh, so, you know, I hope I, uh, answered your question, guy.
You got anything else in your mind?
unidentified
Uh, no, brother, thanks.
Appreciate it.
jason bermas
You got it, man.
Alright, let's jump to Andrew in Oklahoma.
Andrew, you with us?
unidentified
Hey, Jason, how's it going?
jason bermas
Good, man.
unidentified
Yeah, I listened to your segment there with the CNN reporter, Drew Griffin.
And that's, in fact, my name, Andrew Griffin.
We're Radio Free Oklahoma up here in Oklahoma City.
And I went to the airport here within the past month.
And when I got to the counter, I was flying to Michigan.
And there were some eyebrows raised when my name came up.
And I was just wondering if that has anything to do with Mr. Griffin's, you know, investigation of the TSA, and then my name popping up, and then they're having to cross-reference my...
jason bermas
It could be, or you got a Patriot Radio show, it could be just that.
I mean, I don't get flagged at the airport, but then again, similar names do, and then, you know, in the follow-up segment, they talk about how, well, if I want to get around it, I sign in as D. Griffin or, you know, I put in my middle name and sometimes I don't get flagged but other times I do.
So, you know, it's very possible.
In the follow-up to this story, too, there were three James Robinsons, one of which was a five-year-old boy.
I mean, can you imagine?
And the woman actually, the mother actually says, you know, I have found a way to get around it rather quickly.
And they're like, well, what's that?
Well, I just tipped the guy.
I just give them a 20, and then they just move on.
I mean, not that it isn't ludicrous enough for them just to move on because he's a child, but then you have to tip him.
I mean, it's disgusting.
unidentified
No, it is.
And ironically, one of our fellow patriots here in Oklahoma with Tulsa Truth, Jim Robinson is his name.
And I was just wondering if that had any connection to it either, because, you know, we're pretty outspoken in the patriot community here in the Sooner State.
And so these things are disconcerting to say the least.
jason bermas
Well, when you have a million people on that list, there's no way that all of them are quote-unquote terrorists or even Al-Qaeda or extremists.
You know, they're average people and they're probably people that are threats to the system.
I thank you for the call, man.
I mean, God knows who's on that list.
I mean, I would be foolish to think that if my name wasn't on a list or Alex's name wasn't on a list, But, again, I don't like to live in fear and paranoia.
And I think that they put a lot of people on that list that they know are not only not dissidents, but have no way into terror just because they make it that inconvenience.
And they say, oh, well, in order to fix the system, everybody's just going to have to give their blood.
Or their thumbprint.
Or their eye scan.
You know, for this new surveillance society.
They're basically acclimating us to it.
All right, let's jump to Mike in North Carolina.
Mike, are you with us?
unidentified
Yes, I'm right here.
I want to comment on that you and Alex are doing a great, fantastic job.
I've been involved in this for about two and a half years, and the one thing that really, really did it for me wasn't either one of the trade towers, but it was World Trade Tower number seven.
Number seven did it for me.
I accept that the planes were used as diversions for the implosion of both of the other trade towers.
Now, the one plane that was shot down in Pennsylvania, I kind of think, I haven't really dug in deep yet, I think it was supposed to hit World Trade numbers.
jason bermas
All right, let me answer that for you.
A lot of people speculate that that other plane was on its way to seven.
Well, in Fabled Enemies, I show you that there was not just the World Trade Center and Pentagon as targets, but there were up to 11 targets.
targets that day they got a list uh...
at the maryland police department that morning before any attacks that occurred the world trade center the pentagon sears tower on it the baltimore world trade center of course some of those actually came through we know that because paris blending the governor got on fox news and talked about it in the film on top of that they had hijackings coming out of alaska coming out of canada all over the place they thought there was a bomb on board delta nineteen eighty nine uh...
there was a serious threat against Air Force One that morning against the White House and in fact in early reports they let it go that the quote-unquote hijackers or terrorists or whoever committed this were actually decoding all of the top code words for the White House, the Pentagon, the CIA, the FBI that morning.
So I would say this could World Trade Center 7 have been a target?
It's a possibility.
Is it a probability to me?
I don't think so, because it's kind of low on that skyline.
It would have been a very tough hit, even with, let's say, a remote aircraft.
Now, am I saying that's not a possibility?
No. I think they thought they were going to get away with it, because again, this was a huge spook house.
We're talking the largest CIA base outside of Langley, Virginia.
The largest Secret Service office in the world.
And I think that they thought that they were just going to be able to bring it down, that there would be enough damage, enough smoke, That they could blow it up.
I mean, there is the possibility of that plane hitting the building, but I think it's a low one.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Dr. Cheyenne Sunder, I watched it yesterday for World Trade Center #7 report, and his report and final conclusion about the office furniture burning in the buildings, in that building, which caused thermal reaction on, I think it was #78 of the core.
Core actually gave way and bought the tumbling down of World Trade Center number seven.
I think that is the lowest low as anybody can go on that conclusion.
jason bermas
Oh, it's terrible, but I'll say this.
He's the same guy that went to Popular Mechanics, said they had photographs and video that no one else did, said that a quarter of the building was scooped out.
Again, in Fabled Enemies where he said about 25% of the building or 10 stories was scooped out of World Trade Center 7. Well, we bring you inside World Trade Center 7. We show you the south face of World Trade Center 7. Didn't happen.
They had to retract it.
They even had to say that the damage caused by the Collapse of World Trade Centers 1 and 2 had little to no effect on why the building actually went down.
And if you honestly believe that thermal expansion of the interior columns for one column on the 13th floor to detach caused a symmetrical vertical collapse in under 7 seconds, well I have about 5 or 6 bridges that I'd love to sell you after the show.
Thank you so much for the call, Mike.
I'm glad that Building 7 woke you up.
It's what I carry around on my phone.
When I go to tell people about 9-11, it'll be on my phone this year at Ground Zero.
Remember, I think it's, what is it, 2008nowornever.com?
You go to that event.
Fabled Enemies, Truth Rising, both gonna be playing on September 10th.
Alex and I will be speaking.
And then there are events, obviously, on the 11th and after.
So, support the first responders.
Come down to New York and help us out.
Let's jump to Adam in Ohio.
Adam, are you with us?
You there, Adam?
Hello? Yes, sir.
unidentified
What's up, Jason?
Good to talk to you, man.
Just ordered fabled enemies this morning.
Really appreciate all the work that you do.
jason bermas
Thank you, man.
unidentified
Got a couple things I wanted to mention to you I thought you might be interested in.
One on the notion of like militarized police.
You ever heard of a company called Global Asset Tac Group?
I have not.
You should check them out sometime.
Just GlobalAssetTacGroup.com It's like a security firm, and it says on their website that they draw their expertise from current and former special operations personnel from the U.S., Israel, and other nations, and it says that they have a five-day law enforcement, you know, American law enforcement training program in Israel.
So, I thought that was pretty interesting for people who doubt...
jason bermas
Oh, that Israel's a part of this?
I mean, come on, not only that.
I mean, first of all, you know, Israel is an intricate part because they are in Eurasia.
They are our centerpiece in the Middle East right now.
I mean, now that we do have Afghanistan and Iraq, obviously, you know, we have a little bit of an expansion there, but things like Blackwater are now opening up quote-unquote CIA-type wings.
They're not just mercenaries anymore.
They're opening their own private intelligence services, and that's what this sounds like to me.
unidentified
Yeah, well I just thought it's a good way for people who doubt it, you can just show them to the website and tell them, no, our police are being trained by special ops people, even from foreign countries, on foreign soil.
So, you know...
jason bermas
Well, we had Acevedo in here, you know, the Austin Sheriff's Department, the head of the Sheriff's Department, admitting that they have these kind of programs where they bring in Israeli officers and all this other stuff.
I mean, it's in the mainstream news, but people just don't want to own up to it.
They don't want to see it as negative.
Well, they're just sharing information and tactics.
That's a good thing.
No, they're getting ready to globalize.
They're getting ready to join forces against we, the people.
unidentified
Totally. Well, it's just a concrete example for people who disagree.
You can just tell them to go and read it from the horse's mouth.
All right, man.
jason bermas
Go ahead, go ahead.
unidentified
You remember that big cyclone that hit Myanmar a little while ago?
Did you know that there was a military exercise going on in Thailand right then?
jason bermas
At the same time?
It wouldn't shock me.
I'm not one of the guys to get into all the HAARP stuff and, you know, whether the tsunami was engineered years ago or even Katrina.
I do look at the evidence.
It is compelling, obviously.
Alex has had, uh, the father of, uh, what is it, uh, weather warfare on the show.
I forget what his name is.
Ben Livingston is his name.
And, uh, you know, literally back in the seventies they were creating these storms in Vietnam.
So the technology's been around for a while.
HAARP is very advanced.
There's a lot of stuff that's shrouded in mystery, but I wish that people would crack that mystery.
I thank you for the call, Adam.
Let's jump to the next caller.
Let's go to Mike in Illinois.
Mike, you with us?
unidentified
You there?
jason bermas
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Okay. Actually, I have a few things I want to touch base.
First of all, how dare these guys bring up, after seven years, World Building 7. I mean, come on.
I mean, who do they think we are?
I know we're dumbed down, but...
jason bermas
Well, man, I'm going to play you a clip.
I'm going to play you a clip right before we have Shane Geiger on, where Wolf Blitzer tells you a mystery solved.
It's over.
It's over.
unidentified
You know what?
There was somebody earlier that said, well, we need a militarized civilian, I guess, group.
Not to get into specifics, but I'm ex-military myself, and I have plenty of people who are just ready.
For a peaceful revolution, so to speak.
But, you know, if these guys want to push, I'm telling you, we can push a heck of a lot harder.
And I'm just very thankful for you guys.
I'm thankful for a lot of people who have helped open up my eyes, along with...
I swear, every day I'm probably talking to at least one person a day and waking them up.
And I work a lot with We Are Change Chicago.
We do a lot of broadcasting and shows, personal shows with public access and so forth.
And I just want to thank you guys as well, but man, these guys are pushing hard and we need to push back.
jason bermas
They're just doing this because, again, right now we're in the last week of August, okay?
September 11th is now less than a month away.
It has been kept out of the news ad nauseam.
September 11th was not mentioned.
Barely at all this year.
I remember the 5th anniversary, just like I predicted, was going to get a lot of media coverage.
So will the 10th anniversary.
But, they want to put this information out there, kind of under the radar, not really have you think about it.
You'll see a couple stories about the anniversary of September 11th, maybe the week of, but they're not going to give us our podium.
They're going to try to keep it out of the public's eye that there is this big dissent in this country that we do know that The government's version of what happened on 9-11 is a total bust.
It's a total lie.
For instance, this New York Times article that features Richard Gage in it, it tries to distort the issue by saying that, first of all, explosives were planted in the Pentagon.
That's not a popular theory.
I don't agree with that theory.
On top of that, they say that only 1 in 7 Americans thinks that World Trade Center 7 was a controlled demolition.
I have never heard 1 in 7. No, 16% were pulled Thinking that World Trade Center 1 and 2 were controlled demolition.
Right. We have 84% who don't believe the official version of 9-11.
We have 36% that basically believe that the government not only let it happen on purpose, but helped it along.
This 1 and 7...
It's just a total distraction, man, and it kind of makes me sick.
Mike, I thank you for the call.
We're going to be taking callers in the next segment, and then at 1 o'clock, the top of the hour, we're going to have Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change Colorado to tell you about the DNC event coming up.
I am Jason Bermas, and you can check out all our good stuff over at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
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Man, we just shoot through this show.
I am Jason Burmess.
I'm subbing in for Alex Jones.
I'm going to be with you on the Sunday show all the way through Thursday while Alex reports live from the DNC, the Democratic National Convention.
Man, talk about a busy guy.
Not only is Alex going there, but he's going to New York for the September 11th events.
He's going to be speaking with myself while we preview, not preview, but show Fabled Enemies and Truth Rising the night before 9-11.
Oh wait, the seventh anniversary.
And again, you know, the media's being real quiet about this anniversary.
They're also really quiet about how, uh, Thomas Kean...
Thomas Kean.
Thomas Kean travels the country now, telling, uh, teachers and faculty how they're supposed to teach 9-11, because it is becoming, um, more of a historic event that children are going to have to learn about, and God forbid they don't, you know, believe the official story.
That's funny to me, because my movie has been shown in so many high schools and colleges You know, a lot of my friends are teachers and have shown it to their students.
So, you know, I think it's going to be hard for them to put a cap on that.
I think that a lot of schools are going to ban my films, which is sad because, you know, our films are so far the best attempt of truth that I've seen.
All right, let's jump to another caller.
Let's go to Richard in Texas.
Richard, are you with us?
unidentified
Hi Jason, just a couple of quick comments regarding weather and HAARP and that sort of thing.
I think it's been very interesting what's been going on with that tropical storm Faye.
It actually formed an eye after it made landfall the first time, which is bizarre, and the way it's moved and all that sort of thing.
And the other, one other comment just quickly is with regard to all these players on the world scene right now, it's just hard to know how deep the rabbit hole goes, but whether it's Russia or Chavez, Virtually us, or all the key players with the exception of maybe directly Israel in the UK right now, this oil price thing has funded all of these guys.
And, you know, the amount of money that's floating around in that and the ultimate impact on geopolitical issues is just hard to even figure how to get to the bottom of it.
But now on to WTC7.
I called Michael Newman this morning at NIST.
Got him on the line and told him that I used to be in the insurance business, insuring commercial buildings, which I did.
And, you know, we must be in a whole new world now and the insurance market should go berserk that this could happen and raise rates on these properties as a result of the ability of buildings to collapse in this fashion.
And I said, you know, we're in a whole new world, aren't we?
And he says, well, it was just, you know, You know, an unusually constructed building with long spans in these beams and that sort of thing.
And I said, that makes no logical sense.
And I said, what about the molten steel at the bottom?
Oh, first of all, he said, you guys, in speaking to me.
And I said, look, I'm just a concerned American.
I'm not a you guy.
Don't group me into anything.
But in any case, when I mentioned the molten steel thing, he says, look, I don't have time for this.
And hung up on me, which was just an interesting experience.
jason bermas
Yeah, well, yeah.
I mean, they don't want to address the real issues.
Again, their computer model, they didn't apply any physics to that.
And they can, by the way.
That's how these computer models work, is that they can apply, you know, physics and physical properties to things you design in 3D.
This is how it's done.
This is how engineering works now.
They often build these computer models to see what's going to happen before it actually does.
And they did nothing of the sort.
They built these 3D wireframe models, an animated A-collapse.
Richard, I thank you so much for the call.
We're going to have Jonathan Ellenhoff on the other side.
Don't worry, we're going to be taking your calls all day long, especially through Ellenhoff and Geiger.
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We're topping off the third hour of four hours of unadulterated, true radio.
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Not going to be talking about Britney Spears on the MTV Music Awards.
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Well, more than likely, folks.
But dropping that subject, and again, we're going to be taking your calls throughout this interview, but we've got Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change Colorado with us.
He's just done so much to set up this Democratic National Convention.
He was on the radio earlier today with Alex on the Peter Boyles program against Recreate 68, a provocateur group in which Jonathan almost single-handedly exposed.
He's also a good friend of mine and he really knows how to put on an event.
Jonathan Elinoff, how are you, sir?
jonathan elinoff
Excellent, as always, my good friend.
How are you?
jason bermas
I am excellent.
Why don't you throw out the website right now so people can go there and check out what you got going on.
jonathan elinoff
They can always go to wearechangecolorado.org and on the site we set up a DNC page Where they can click the link titled DNC and find out everything we have planned for the DNC.
Our event, our park, our parade we have set up on Tuesday.
We have a custom parade.
We have a permit for with big floats with replicas of the World Trade Center and everything.
It's going to be one hell of a beautiful time out here for the DNC and we want to get all the truthers out here.
Be present and have a strong presence.
jason bermas
Excellent, Jonathan.
Now, for those that don't know, why don't you tell them about the two screenings of Truth Rising.
Luke Rudowsky and Alex Jones are both going to be there.
And then, that is the first day of the DNC, I believe, and you're going to have some merch down there so that if people want to be identified as 9-11 truthers or a tyranny response team, you're going to be able to provide that with them for the second day, correct?
jonathan elinoff
Yes. So, Monday at 7 p.m. and 10 p.m. at the Oriental Theater here in Denver.
Uh, you can buy tickets online at theorientalfuture.com or you can go to wearechangecolorado.org.
Click on the DNC link and the tickets are available there.
And, uh, we are, we are screening Truth Rising.
Alex is going to speak.
Luke will speak.
And, uh, yes, we will be selling shirts, DVDs, everything, and just kind of preparing for, um, all the events that we'll be following.
You know, there's, uh, the event, the DNC goes until Thursday and we have stuff lined up every day.
We need as many truthers out here as we can.
If you know anybody out here in Denver, tell them about Truth Rising Screening.
Get them out here.
If you know delegates or attendees or anybody you can get to this showing, get them here.
Because this is the moment they can learn about the truth movement.
We are a legitimate movement.
We're a large movement, and we're growing.
And they can see it, meet us, and learn about 9-11 too.
jason bermas
And I mean, you got permits.
For the park that's only a thousand feet away from the convention center, I mean, you've worked really, really hard to make this an event where our voices can be heard, where we can shatter the left-right paradigm, because a lot of people think that somehow Obama is going to save us all,
he's changed we can vote for, and he, you know, he is the new savior, he is the new anointed one, and I think that we do need a strong truther presence out there to show, hey, We're not going to be fooled by this guy on the other side of the supposed spectrum.
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Exactly. We're going to have pretty much everything set up.
The park is the Gates Crescent Park.
We're going to be there the entire time, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
We have the permit for it.
And we're going to be congregating there every day with booths, tables, everything, tents, handing out information, flyering, bannering.
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We are joined by Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change Colorado.
I mean, this guy has done so much, folks.
First, he was confronting people like Mitt Romney and throwing it on the web.
I mean, he's got TruthAlliance.net.
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He even blogged a little bit over at LooseChange911.com.
Some of our best stories come from there.
But he's also a ground reporter.
He went down to the detention camps at the DNC.
He's the one that brought you that story.
He's the one that brought you the story of the DNC drills.
Although they said it wasn't for the DNC.
Give me a break.
Black helicopters, them throwing out little American flags wrapped in orange glow sticks and propaganda.
I mean, we're living in some interesting times, don't you think, Jonathan?
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Oh, to say the least.
I also wanted to make an announcement that we also have, if you go to TruthAlliance.net, we are going to be streaming four live video feeds from the DNC.
This is live.
And, uh, people can get the embeddable player right there at shookalliance.net, and we will be streaming, uh, pretty much every day of the, uh, event.
Now, for a lot of people who do not know this, uh, even though Monday is the beginning of the DNC, Sunday, there will be the end of the Occupations Rally downtown, set up by a couple of the groups.
Um, they don't have permits for this, and this is the one that's been talked about for the last, oh, four months or so.
That is controversial.
They don't have permits for this.
We don't know what's going to happen.
They've been threatened with arrest.
They're planning roadblocks.
They're planning surrounding cars and stuff.
jason bermas
They're planning pure provocateur violence.
They're trying to incite a riot without any semblance of sanity.
And I'm kind of surprised that they're doing this the last day.
I think it might be because it's the first day.
jonathan elinoff
It's Sunday.
jason bermas
Oh, that doesn't shock me at all.
Of course they want to do it on Sunday.
They would like to do it so that they can cut off any kind of dissent after that fact.
It's unbelievable.
jonathan elinoff
It is unbelievable.
And we just don't understand, while we're starting to learn now, what's really going on.
jason bermas
Well, let's elaborate on that a little bit.
Number one, we're also going to be having streams all over InfoWars.com.
We'll be streaming live, so everybody's going to be able to see this.
It's going to be on the web everywhere.
People are going to be taking hard recordings, so whatever goes down, They're not going to get away with it.
But earlier in the day, you, Alex, and Luke actually debated one of the guys from Recreate68, correct?
jonathan elinoff
Yes, and just to be clear, the articles are very clear.
I wrote three articles about Recreate68, ReimD, Uncommercial Action, all the different groups.
I've always defended it with sources.
It's well backed.
You know, we have recordings, we have articles, everything.
And, uh, you know, these guys are very upset because I was successful at breaking up their group.
But the thing is, is they were setting up actions that were going to get protesters arrested.
There's no real debate on this.
unidentified
Well, there's no debate.
jason bermas
They had a shield book, Jonathan.
They wanted people to show up in armor and to have shields and bring red paint and destroy cameras and destroy property and be a nuisance.
They had no reason for that other than to get people arrested and make us look like vile creatures.
jonathan elinoff
Well, and they also had, they actually canceled one of the actions that they were planning, which was called Shake Your Money Maker, which is a protest, as far as I know, they canceled it, at least, where they were going to surround the Denver money mint and attempt to levitate the building.
And Glenn and all those guys were going to hand out bags of money symbols on them.
And we didn't understand what the message was for this.
This is a coin mint here in Denver.
And we talked to the security guard there.
If you touch or vandalize that fence or congregate around it, they can actually, like, shoot you, is what he said.
And it's a serious facility.
This is where money is stamped.
Coin money is printed.
And they wanted to surround the Denver mint and levitate the building.
jason bermas
Levitate the building.
In other words, new age nonsense to get people hurt.
How ignorant are we?
I mean, let's be adults and let's see what works.
You know what doesn't work?
Breaking the law.
Okay? Obviously, civil disobedience is a good thing.
It's been around for a while.
This is uncivil disobedience.
This is felonizing protesters.
This is insanity to me, Jonathan.
And I am just so thankful for people like you that exposed, you know, the masses to this, including myself.
I mean, I had a friend call me up from Portland, who I went to college with, one of my really, really good friends.
And he's like, well, what do I do?
He's like, well, my buddy is actually going down to the DNC this year with the Recreate 68 folks.
And I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, Recreate 68. And he's like, yeah, what's up?
And I sent him the website, and I sent him the shield book, and he's like, oh my god.
And he's like, this is terrible.
And I'm like, yeah, it's terrible.
And like, they're provocateurs.
Just like at the WTO in Seattle in 2000, you need to tell your roommate this.
And he told his roommate, and he showed him the stuff, and his roommate was blown away.
And you know, they want a huge leftist presence there.
I mean, obviously Rage Against the Machine is going to be there.
The Flowbots are going to be there.
The Coup is going to be there.
A couple of those bands, obviously, I'm very enamored with and I like a lot, but they also stay in that paradigm.
And I do remember the last time Reach Against the Machine threw a concert, I think it was at the LA Convention Center in 2000, on behalf of the elections then for Al Gore, and it was just a rubber bullet barrage by the cops.
I worry about that.
jonathan elinoff
We worry about it, too.
You know, they set up big detention facilities here in Denver for mass arrests.
And, yeah, and the thing is, is some of these other groups, like Unconventional Action, are open on their website about property destruction.
I totally agree with it, and roadblocks, even though these are arrestable offenses.
And the most important thing to remember is that, you know, these people are open about, you know, I'm not making accusations.
I can't source.
They're open about it.
It's all right there.
People can look at it and they can see with their own eyes.
jason bermas
It's downloadable, Jonathan.
They've put it out there in the public eye, but because it's not parroted in the mainstream as something bad, and it's only heard kind of in the backdrop when Rush Limbaugh talks about saying he's dreaming of riots in Denver.
Well, that's a talking point.
unidentified
It is.
jonathan elinoff
What's funny about it is they dug their own hole here.
And, you know, with all these accusations being thrown around, the important thing to remember here is, you know, people cannot just look up this stuff online and see it right there, and it's all available, it's all sourced, but it all boils down to one thing.
There's no way, and this is the irony of it, by the way, Jason, Is it just a coincidence that the Denver Mint is catty-corner to the police headquarters that's set up downtown?
Is it just a coincidence that it's right next to, literally across the street from the Denver Courthouse where all the court cases are?
jason bermas
Where they can process you in less than 20 feet.
jonathan elinoff
Exactly. I mean, we're talking about, and that was one of the first things I noticed is, These actions were designed to not just rile up the protesters and get them all pissed off, but to put them at arm's length away from cops, waiting right there.
I mean, it was...
We're talking about direct confrontation here.
And, you know, I saw this six months ago, and I was pretty much the first person who blew the whistle on all of this.
And I immediately put two and two together, and I saw two trains headed toward each other at, you know, 100 miles an hour.
And it's pretty simple if anyone sees it.
Now, I've been accused, like I was this morning, of lying, and this, that, and the other, and they actually completely misquoted me about a bunch of stuff.
The reality of fact is, is I've stuck with my story the entire time.
Everything's been said online.
And, you know, if I wasn't telling the truth, I couldn't be held accountable for that.
But the reason why they don't go after me is because it's fact.
They're open about it.
I was actually praised by the local paper for the work that I did.
And the most important thing to remember Is that not only did I get respected for what I did, Recreate 68 broke up.
A whole bunch of their members created a new group called Alliance for Real Democracy.
They broke away from Recreate 68 because they agreed with my article.
They came out and said, yes, the name is Recreate 68. It sounds like they're going to recreate the violence.
It sends the message of recreating the violence that happened in 68. It's a horrible thing.
They needed to distance themselves from the groups.
They created this new group, Alliance for Real Democracy.
They did that because I was right and they agreed with me.
And what did they do?
They banned We Are Change from being a part of Alliance for Real Democracy because we hurt the progressive relationship that they had.
jason bermas
Well, that's tough.
It's too bad that when you want to tell the truth and you don't want to be put into this, again, false left-right paradigm, this false conservative liberal paradigm, this False.
You know, you have to be for Barack Obama or you're against Change Paradigm.
They don't want you to take part in it, Jonathan.
Jonathan, the website is wearechangecolorado.org, correct?
Yes. And all the information is there, correct?
jonathan elinoff
Everything's on wearechangecolorado.org for the DNC.
They can still get all my articles on truthalliance.net.
And everything's been available since all this went down at the very beginning.
jason bermas
Alright, let's take a couple callers.
We got a couple ones holding.
Let's go to Jameson in Florida.
Jameson, are you with us?
Hello? Hey man, what's on your mind?
unidentified
Oh yeah, I'm down in Florida and Fage has hit.
And the continuity of government thing, it's really like a preview, I think, of what we're going to see in the future.
jason bermas
Well, absolutely.
I mean, Continental Government's been around for a while, and even in your state of Florida, on September 7th, you know, martial law was declared in 2001 before the attacks, and it went on throughout the attacks.
And, you know, isn't it a coincidence that Jeb Bush is the governor of Florida, and his daddy is the one that revamped the entire COG program?
unidentified
Yeah, but, like, it's like what they do here with the flooding, like, they let the The drainage systems deteriorate and then they put up roadblocks and they pretty much have a control grid on the whole city.
jason bermas
Well, obviously they're trying to control, you know, I mean, just look at Katrina, whether you think, you know, they bombed the levees or anything like that, the police reaction was unbelievable.
Unbelievable! They literally warded them off at the bridges and would not let them cross, would not let food or water get to them.
Why is that?
It's because it's all about control.
Jameson, thank you so much for the call.
Jonathan, thank you for popping in.
I know you've got another interview to do right after this.
We are ChangeColorado.org.
I'm Jason Bermas of the Alex Jones Show.
We'll be back after this.
unidentified
We'll be back after this.
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But before that, I want to play a little segment.
And by the way, we're going to keep taking your calls all day long.
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unidentified
It's amazing.
Amazing, incredible, pick your word.
For the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before when a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down.
alex jones
We have the owner of the World Trade Center complex admitting on tape that he ordered the building demolished on the afternoon of 9-11.
unidentified
Listen, you know, we've had such terrible loss of life.
Maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.
And they made that decision to pull.
then we watched the building collapse.
alex jones
During our on-the-ground investigations in New York City over the last five-plus years, we've talked to scores of eyewitnesses who had claimed that police and firemen told them to get back from Building 7 because it was going to be brought down or, quote, explode.
unidentified
Building 7, while I was listening to live feed from our local public radio station later in the afternoon, they talked about Building 7. Building 7 was fine.
There was no airplane that hit it.
And then they even began to ruminate on the air about demolishing the building.
I said, well, I don't know.
I mean, you can put out fires.
You know, why would you talk about demolishing a building that, you know, wasn't hit by anything?
You know, the fires weren't bad or anything like that.
I will say that I spoke to a cop on 9-11 who said that it was going to come down.
I don't know how he knew that.
alex jones
Now, archived CNN footage has surfaced showing video footage of a New York City police officer telling cameramen and civilians to get back from Building 7 because the building was going to blow up.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
You hear that?
Keep your eye on that building.
As we come down.
Building is about to blow up.
Moving back.
All right, guys?
We are walking back.
This is a building.
About to blow up.
Don't clean.
Just in the last few seconds another building, building number seven, one of the buildings in support of the World Trade Center towers has collapsed.
This is no small building, as you can see.
At 47 stories, it would stand out in most American cities.
alex jones
And then, in late February of 2007, 9-11 researchers reviewing archives of live news coverage from September 11, discovered to their shock that BBC World had reported that Building 7 Also known as the Solomon Brothers building had completely collapsed over 20 minutes before its actual implosion.
First anchors at the London News Desk reported it.
unidentified
Now, more on the latest building collapse in New York.
You might have heard a few moments ago I was talking about the Salomon Brothers building collapsing, and indeed it has.
Apparently that's only a few hundred yards away from where the...
alex jones
They then cut to BBC reporter Jane Standley in New York, who also reported that the Salomon Brothers building had fallen.
All the while with a building clearly visible behind her through the window.
unidentified
Our correspondent, Jane Stanley.
Jane, what more can you tell us about the Salomon Brothers building and its collapse?
Well, only really what you already know.
Details are very, very sketchy.
There's almost a sense downtown in New York behind me, down by the World Trade Center, of just an area completely closed off as the rescue workers try to do their job.
But this isn't the first building that has suffered as a result.
We know that part of the Marriott Hotel next to the World Trade Center also collapsed as a result of this huge amount of falling debris from a hundred All right, folks. I think you get the gist.
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It's the Alex Jones Show.
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Came down to the office last week in Texas.
We are in Austin, Texas, folks.
Said, hey, I'd really like to go cover this.
Can you guys help me out with some press passes?
And Aaron talked to him for a little while and he said, you know, of course, you can go on behalf of us.
We'll see what we can do.
He then contacted NIST.
NIST then contacted us to make sure that he was with us.
The guy from NIST was actually pretty sympathetic and had heard of InfoWars.
I was kind of shocked.
And he went down there.
I mean, it is no small trip from Texas to Maryland and actually was I'm Wolf Blitzer, You're in the Situation Room.
unidentified
Thank you.
The Twin Towers of the World Trade Center weren't the only buildings that crumbled on September 11, 2001.
A neighboring building, the World Trade Center Building No.
7, also came down, but no one was sure why.
Until now.
Let's go to Deborah Farrack.
She's working the story for us.
Deb, what are the experts now saying?
Well, Walt, there's a new report and the findings come after three years of studying the collapse of Building 7 just across from the North Tower.
This was done using complex computer models, detailed analysis and eyewitness accounts.
So why doesn't everyone buy it?
It has been a mystery since 9-11.
Why did World Trade Center Building 7 collapse nearly seven hours after the Twin Towers fell?
Was it diesel fuel in the building?
...
or planted explosives, a controlled demolition of government offices as conspiracy theorists allege in films like Loose Change.
A team of scientists and engineers authorized by Congress says there's only one answer, and it's conclusive.
The collapse of World Trade Center 7 was primarily due to fires.
This is the first time that we're aware of that a building over 15 stories tall has collapsed primarily due to fire.
Shyam Sundar, the study's lead investigator, says fires ignited by falling debris from the towers burned so hot, they created a phenomenon in which steel and concrete floors failed, causing floors to buckle and a key column to cave.
For the first time we have shown that fire can induce a progressive collapse.
Fires burned out of control on six of ten floors in Building 7, where New York City's multi-million dollar emergency command center had recently been built.
And because the city's water main was cut when the towers fell, sprinkler systems in the building did not work.
Still, conspiracy theorists and others were not swayed by the new findings.
I hear quite a number of bare assertions here today.
Investigators say they did consider certain so-called conspiracy theories, but none held up.
alternative theories are really none of them have been found to be credible fire expert glenn corbett analyzed the trade center collapse and says the new report could be used to make high rises it's safer i'm hoping that the next steps will be to actually Yeah, my pleasure.
Thanks for having me.
jason bermas
Well, absolutely.
Well, why don't you just take us through it.
First of all, the trip to Maryland.
You drove, I assume?
unidentified
No, I booked a flight last minute.
One of the techniques that NIST was employing to keep people from, you know, coming and showing up and criticizing them, apparently, was to, you know, publish the actual date and time of the meeting at the last minute.
jason bermas
Yeah, it only came out like a day and a half before the actual thing, right?
unidentified
Two and a half, two and a half days.
I think it was maybe Monday night or Tuesday night when I got the email about this.
I kind of molded over and decided, yeah, I want to go.
But thanks to Brave New Books, the really awesome bookstore in Austin where I've met a number of nice people and discussed 9-11.
jason bermas
Yeah, Matt Conner is a really good guy over there.
unidentified
Yeah, Matt Conner, Harlan, John, all great guys.
jason bermas
Absolutely. And I gotta ask you, now you get in there, okay?
Because we only got you until 2 o'clock.
Now, you were talking about the Bear Assertions.
Now, they said that the fires were hundreds of degrees below what they first suspected could do anything like this.
That's in there like a little official spiel.
Then they also say that they didn't even have any steel from the World Trade Center 7 to test, correct?
unidentified
Right. Yeah, in NCSTAR 1-3, you can just Google this.
They state that they don't have any of the World Trade Center 7 building steel.
They had some charts at the front of the room yesterday, and I was just asking myself, how in the heck is it that they drew these charts?
These are not actually based on physical evidence.
These are just imagined Boeing trusses.
You know, there's so many bare assertions that don't have evidence to actually back them up.
You know, when you do science, the idea is you do experiments to, you know, test your hypothesis.
jason bermas
Exactly, and this computer model that they did, they did not apply any of the physics or physical properties of these steel beams to that.
It was indeed just a computer animation.
In other words, something that somebody had predetermined and then animated, not based on actual physics.
Again, correct?
unidentified
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah, you can make a simulation, do anything, you know.
You can make a donkey talk, like, you know, this is how this is aged in Hollywood.
Like Shrek.
jason bermas
Yeah, it could be like Shrek.
unidentified
Exactly, exactly.
It's ridiculous to think that this is a proof.
However, there are some bits of evidence that are being found in the World Trade Center dust that you can actually verify.
You can go to the USGS website and see pictures of the iron-rich spheres.
Which are evidence of temperatures of 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit, you know, in excess of that.
In fact, these are the temperatures necessary to liquefy iron.
And the National Institute of Standards and Technology report on the Twin Towers, and apparently also the one on Building 7, state merely that the temperatures got up to roughly 1,100 C, or 2,012 degrees Fahrenheit.
Temperatures that are merely hot enough to weaken steel.
But the problem is, you know, we've got some liquid iron, you know, this is a major component of steel.
We've got this at the scene of the crime.
jason bermas
And on video, pouring out of the building, by the way.
Not just on the scene of the crime, not just mobile.
unidentified
They made the bare assertion concerning that the video, the Peter Jennings broadcast shows it on nationwide television.
You've got this orange metal flowing out of the south tower minutes before it collapses.
And they state in their FAQ Uh, that, you know, this is probably, um, molten aluminum mixed with organics or something else.
jason bermas
And it was absolutely disproven by Stephen Jones.
There is no way that molten aluminum would have, would have glowed that way, would have reached that far, far down without solidifying, or given that kind of texture.
It was completely disproven, and then the, uh, the debunkers had to jump on that and say, well, if it isn't molten aluminum, it's got to be batteries from the building.
I mean, these guys will say anything!
unidentified
Right. Yeah, or throw the fly ash in there, or the other things for which they have no substantiating experiment.
You know, this is so ridiculous.
You see this over and over again.
I like to tell people, you know, this is the way you can tell whether or not, you know, 9-11 was an inside job.
You see, you look with the scientific method, you know, at who's doing science, and you can see NIST, you know, is ignoring evidence.
They're making claims about experiments.
And Kevin Ryan, by the way, we're going to have on on Monday, and Richard Gage is going to be joining us at 2.30.
jason bermas
I'm trying to get a hold of Steven Jones.
James Gourley, actually, I'm a good friend of, and I actually did a screening out in Dallas a few months ago with him.
He's a good buddy of mine.
You know, a very smart person, man.
I mean, they're trying to put this together in a legal format, which they can no longer ignore.
And they are having to back off certain things.
Certain things they'll just straight up lie about, such as there was no loss of life in Building 7, but S.I.M.
Sunder went to Popular Mechanics years ago and said they had evidence that 25% of the building, or 10% I'm kind of thinking,
unidentified
Jason, that those photos, the videos and whatnot, that NIST is holding hostage for $19,000, might shed some light on all of this.
But of course, we're not so likely to see that unless we cough up at least $19,000.
The upper limit is whatever they decide it is.
jason bermas
That's a lot of money to pony up to when you're an individual guy like me that's lucky to make that in a year and has to struggle and work 40 to 60 hours a week just to do that.
But they do that on purpose.
They want the slave class to just shut up and accept what they say.
I mean, literally, Wolf Blitzer is on there saying, mystery solved!
Well, I'll give Debra Farrick a little bit of a...
You know, I'll give her a little bit of an op.
She... She's the one that came out to our house and interviewed us a couple years back.
She was rather sympathetic.
She's one of the few reporters that even put in the alternate hypothesis, that even dared put you on the TV screen, that dared to mention loose change, and she was the one that actually did contact us to tell us that they were doing this news story.
So, you know, a little bit of a shout-out to Debra Farrick.
I hope you come around even further.
I understand you work for CNN, and it's highly corporatized, and there's only so much that you can say, but Please keep trying to bring the people some semblance of the truth.
All right, we've only got like 15 minutes, so I want you to describe what happened when you actually asked a question.
I remember you mentioning yesterday that they shut the lights off on you.
unidentified
Yeah, this, uh, you know, I, I, I know what's going on here.
And so when I booked this flight, I knew there was a chance that I wouldn't get to speak, you know, that they'd be reading the question.
They asked me to actually send the question in the day before so they could preview it, you know, just to make sure that I don't.
Ask anything they don't want me to ask.
And so I was sitting there in this presentation, and I heard time and time again the most outrageous lie about finding no explosives, which implies that they looked for explosives.
And so I just pulled up in my notes the exchange of information between Dr. Jones, Kevin Ryan, James Greeley, and others.
With NIST concerning the experiments that they've supposedly done under the Data Equality Act, you are allowed to submit a request for correction to the federal agency if you have some reason to suspect that information is wrong, some information that might affect, for instance, how you build buildings or something like that.
So anyway, the Data Quality Assurance Act was the means by which Jones, Ryan, and others got this admission from NIST that they didn't do any experiments.
Of course, this didn't hit the mainstream press at the time.
You know, an outrageous thing to make statements that you didn't find explosives when you didn't look for explosives.
And I was sitting in the room yesterday with Uh, you know, people from the mainstream media, you know, all the big groups, and, uh, you know, these people heard what I said, and they did gather around after, uh, the meeting and talk to me about this a little bit.
But, uh, I saw their reports today, and they didn't follow up on that.
So, you know, I'm gonna contact them.
I'm gonna see if I can get them to, uh, see this correctly.
But, you know, I realize these people, what, were there as, you know, career reporters.
jason bermas
Oh, absolutely.
unidentified
Absolutely. Something on the line, yeah.
Oh, there was no way they were going to try to crack the case.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
jason bermas
Well, let me ask you, when did they shut the lights off?
That's what I gotta know.
Like, were you in the middle of the question?
Alright, go with that, go with that.
unidentified
So, just after the, you know, the blurb that you heard on CNN, you know, where I said there were a lot of bear assertions, I mentioned the beams, you know, the graphics that they had on these charts at the beginning, at the front of the room, and then I started Uh, into the, uh, information I had on the Data Quality Act request, you know, and missed submission.
Um, and, uh, I believe it was a little, uh, there's a bit of a pause in my, uh, presentation, and somewhere along the lines there, uh, the light went off just a little bit, my pause.
And then, um, what, in the middle of the, uh, Data Quality Act, uh, request, uh, portion of my presentation, I saw a, a, Quickly looked forward in the room I saw two people off to the side uh...
waving their hands their hands their arms were fully extended.
jason bermas
Oh God forbid you try to see the truth!
unidentified
No! No!
alex jones
No! The cover up!
Hey Shane I want you to finish the story about a spot by the office and I'm gonna leave.
This is Alex Jones popping in.
I was just listening in the car when I pulled to the office uh...
to you and uh...
Jason talking about how Wolf Blitzer is saying this is it!
Case closed!
Same thing with they announced for a whole day Case closed.
We're going to show the plane at the Pentagon.
Case closed.
And they show some white blur.
It's like they want to keep it going or something.
And listen, we need to get Paul Watson or Kurt Nemo or somebody now to do a headline about NIST.
You know, NIST backs off a false claim of 25% of the building scooped out because that's another big deal.
And we need to just point out that this is another complete collapse of what they're doing and the fact that they kept Backing this off and off and off, but listen, I'm gonna get out of here, but Jason, just make sure somebody does a story on this.
Because I'm seeing all the other rundown stories, they're really not going over that.
jason bermas
No, that is a big thing.
They literally said a quarter of the building was gone, and now that's retracted, and he said that they tested for explosives, but if you watch the official NIST three-minute video, he simply says, well, the explosions that would have had to occur for a controlled demolition would have set off major decibel levels.
And those decibel levels were in none of the actual videos or eyewitness accounts.
alex jones
But they are!
Boom! Boom!
unidentified
Boom! I know!
You can hear it!
jason bermas
And I'm sure...
alex jones
Listen, bottom line, Cy Hirsch now comes out and says Cheney was planning to blow up her own ships, confirmed.
Gulf of Tonkin, all this stuff's coming out.
It's their criminal murderers, and they're not going to stop.
And I want to tell all the debunkers something, because I woke up this morning at about 6 a.m.
thinking about this.
I know I've said this before, but it really came home.
It really hit me.
I almost came in today just to talk about this.
Yes, I did.
And Willie Nelson, and governors, and all these people, and they all had the courage to come out and say it was an inside job, and we've defeated the bastards.
The majority of people, I mean, it's not common knowledge on the street.
I want all the government debunkers and all you scum that work for the New World Order to know, you really have failed, bastards.
And now people understand false flag terror.
The top Russian general, number two, general comes out and says NATO's planting false flags in Georgia, dressed up like us.
I mean, the cat's out of the bag, your little favorite toy of murdering us and posing No!
No! No!
No! It's hit the end of the line.
No, that's government propaganda to make you think.
And people go, oh, I guess the war's over.
I'll go home.
It's bigger than it's ever been.
jason bermas
Meanwhile, they try to insert ridiculous theories like no planes, bombs everywhere.
alex jones
None of it's going to work.
Look, they're onto your crap, murderers.
It's over.
I'm leaving.
I'm going to get ready for Denver.
Denver, you're doing a great job, Jason.
And you are too, Mr. Geiger.
All right, well, just come back and finish up your story.
No, don't say it!
Cut the lights off!
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Little Fight Club background music here at the Alex Jones Show.
I am Jason Bermas subbing in for Alex.
Alex just popped in.
We are in the final segment with InfoWars freelance reporter Shane Geiger.
And Shane, I really hope that you write an editorial, not only about this subject, but about your experience.
I mean, literally trying to get no independent media there by announcing it a couple days over.
It doesn't stop you.
You still get on a plane.
They still want you to submit your question.
It doesn't stop you.
You submit your question.
You get in there.
You get to ask your question.
They turn off the lights.
It still doesn't stop you from getting some mainstream coverage.
So I think that, you know, you have a very unique perspective.
We want to thank you from, you know, all of our hearts over here at InfoWars.com for doing what you're doing.
In the next five minutes, why don't you just give me a wrap-up of the whole experience?
unidentified
Well, gosh, I'm flattered.
Thanks so much.
And, you know, I do have more to say on this.
I wish I had your video editing skills.
I really have some things to say.
I'm just kind of bursting.
I talk about this with people.
All the time.
I think it's really important for people to realize that 9-11 is really not the past.
9-11 is what created what we have today, you know, with the passing of the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, all these sorts of things.
So I think it's, you know, I really love what Alex does with, you know, gosh, I love Terror Storm.
Great film.
And, you know, I think it's important for people to see the historical context.
I think it's, you know, it's, I mean, who of us really wants war with Iran?
And Russia, you know, especially not nuclear war.
jason bermas
Not anybody who has any sanity left in their brain.
unidentified
Exactly, right.
Yeah, I mean, the people that want this, they're like, you know, these rats that have some virus or something in their brain, you know, and they want to be attacked.
jason bermas
Well, they're so far removed from the quote-unquote slave class because they truly do believe that they are better than us, that we are chattel to be willed to their desire.
And, uh, they're the ones that are trying to just, you know, kick off World War III.
They're the ones that have used 9-11 as this pretext to end America.
And you're right, it is an ancient history.
Our entire foreign and domestic policy, right now in this country, is based on the events of 9-11 and the way that the government and the mainstream media told us it happened.
It is the Patriot Acts.
It is the Military Commission Act.
It's the fact that we can't even sue the government or the private organizations that wiretap us illegally.
I mean, these things are all real, they have progressively gotten worse in this country, and with privatized mercenaries like I talked about in the first segment, we are in big, big trouble.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, Blackwater, yeah.
I really want people to realize that it's important right now to look at 9-11 Truth.
The physical evidence is my favorite starting point, because there you can know there's something absolutely wrong here.
And I, you know, at the very end of the conference yesterday, I, uh, you know, I think, I think if you can hear what I said in the, uh, in the webcast, I haven't actually had the time to watch it myself, but if you can hear it, you can see that I was not attacking anybody.
I mean, I was saying he was making bare assertions because he was, and he had every opportunity to rebut me, and instead he didn't say anything.
So, uh, you know, at the very end of this, I was surrounded by reporters talking to me, And I talked to them for 10 or 15 minutes, something like that, and then I saw Dr. Sunder was still standing in the corner talking to some people.
So I got my video camera, and I walked over to this guy, and I started videoing him a bit.
And I kind of went there just to see what these creeps really look like up front, you know, in person.
I wanted to see what it looks like.
Feel the evil.
Yeah, I wanted to see.
I mean, this is kind of a cool thing.
You know, I mean, this is...
You know, this is a work of art, you know, from the perspective of the evil people that did this kind of stuff and that are taking part in the cover-up.
So I just thought this was going to be very interesting.
jason bermas
It's a Machiavellian masterpiece for those guys.
unidentified
Yeah, Machiavellian, exactly, beautiful.
So I went over there and got some video of this guy and, you know, eventually...
jason bermas
Listen, we need you to post that video, send it to Aaron at InfoWars.com.
I want to thank you again, Shane.
You know, we need more people like this guy that are willing to get a press pass, ask an intelligent question, be a part of the press.
It's InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
Remember Fabled Enemies, September 1st.
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