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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
Thank you for joining us on this very important 20th day of August, 2008.
We're going to be live here for the next four hours.
Guess who we have joining us today?
In 30 minutes from now, Congressman Ron Paul on a host of vital issues.
Paul Joseph Watson on the war in the frontiers with Russia on the Russian front, on the police state in England.
On a host of other issues, Jonathan Alanoff.
We are Change Colorado as we give you some lead-up reporting on what's happening in Denver, this giant NCAP, or promotional event, for martial law for the rest of the country.
Wayne Madsen, a former NSA officer, and Peter Dale Scott, top professor on government narcotics trafficking and government-sponsored terrorism.
So Ron Paul, Paul Watson, Jonathan Elinoff, Wayne Madsen, and Peter Dale Scott today for you.
I am going to be here live tomorrow.
I haven't decided whether I want to run a best of of a whole bunch of the wonderful interviews we've done the last few months on Friday because I'm not going to be able to leave town Friday night if I don't take off Friday.
I may just have Jason Burmiss sit in But he's busy with the fabled enemies website and some new trailers and a bunch of work He's doing but he wants to do the show Friday.
You'll probably hear Jason Burmess on the show Friday I know he's doing the Sunday show and Jason will be doing next Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday here on air while I call in live From the DNC also, we're going to have a live video feed at least one hour a day up on InfoWars.com Free to the public,
and when I go down to the FEMA camp, probably Monday or Tuesday, we'll have a live video in case the police start shotgunning us, or beating our heads with clubs, or murdering us, or God knows what, and saying that we, you know, pulled out weapons on them.
We'll have video of us defenselessly being bludgeoned by demons of hell, unleashed to destroy the country.
That's what it is.
So we're going to be there.
With the live video rolling out, this technology is devastating to them.
Devastating to enemy forces!
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We can show their lies and show you who their father is.
I'd love exposing your evil.
alex jones
NATO suspends formal contacts with Russia.
Merrill Lynch, Wachovia, endangered of failing.
You that have helped the parasites will now reap the whirlwind.
You have sowed it.
MSNBC reports Bush is creating an embryonic police state.
Well, if it's embryonic, then an NFL lineman is an embryonic male.
Or a 35-year-old woman is an embryonic female.
No, it's not embryonic.
It is glistening, armored, all around you, constantly scanning everything, building giant death camps, bringing in hardened felons to join the police force and military, building giant forces of darkness all around you.
Embryonic. Embryonic.
They're just now getting around to telling you.
And admitting it's all being passed.
It's all oiled and loved and machined and all being passed to the Democrats, the new guardians of evil, if they're to be elected.
Or the new guardian of evil, John McCain, there's nothing new.
Don't worry, all of you that have served evil, you're gonna get to see real evil very soon.
Everything you love, everything you want, everything that attracts you like a moth to the flame.
NSA security officer, we should just kill these people, speaking of bloggers.
That from Lane Madsen, who's really turned out to be an accurate source.
I hope he's wrong on this.
Man arrested and locked up for five hours, also physically attacked, and we're taking photo of police van that was going the wrong way down the street.
Cop just came out and said, You don't take a photo of God!
You kneel to me, flame!
unidentified
You kneel to me, flame!
david miller
On September 11, 2001, along with hundreds of my fellow troops, I went to ground zero.
And we knew what to do.
Or at least we thought we did.
alex jones
Truth Rising is a breakthrough 9-11 film that finally gives first responders a platform to tell their story.
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Whitman, EPA.
The director on the 18th made a statement that the air was safe to breathe.
alex jones
This film follows the growing momentum of 9-11 truth as brave souls throughout the world take action against their global masters.
kevin mcpadden
He had his hand over the radio while he was getting a countdown.
He takes his hand off and you hear three, two, one, and it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
alex jones
This is an emergency transmission worldwide.
Download Truth Rising at PrisonPlanet.tv and aggressively spread it worldwide, or order the DVD at InfoWars.com.
If we don't expose the government-sponsored terror, they're going to commit more acts and bring in martial law.
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He's the T-Rex of political talk.
Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones
All over Europe, all over England, all over the United States, just like Communist China.
Cops are beating people up.
You videotape them a hundred yards away, they come over and beat you up and charge you with assaulting them.
You try to just peacefully videotape them, they come over and arrest you and charge you with attacking them.
On video, you don't touch them.
They just commit crimes right on video.
Evil and corruption is now authorized.
They are rewarded in most major departments for this now.
Darkness is descending quickly, and then I see the very same case out of England.
This cop should drive down the wrong way of the street park.
Of course, this fella had been ticketed before for doing a similar thing.
He lives there, so he gets out and takes a photo, and the police run out, and the cop knocks the camera out of his hands, grabs him, slams him down, and then charges him with assaulting the officer with the camera.
You know, every day I see a report about Swat teams going to the wrong house every day.
I'm not even looking for them.
Every day!
Now, I might not see one for two days, but then I'll see two or three stories in one day.
Uh, it's about every day where they go to the wrong house.
Not the right house, the wrong house.
And you only hear about it when it's the wrong house.
And they shoot the family Chihuahua, Beagle, Chained, Labrador.
The dogs will run and they will gun them down, uh, shooting them in the hindquarters.
I mean, these guys are the type that you take deer hunting, and they call it buck fever, and they can...
I've known deer hunters back when I had a lot of time to deer hunt many moons ago.
Well, I guess I went deer hunting again two years ago when I had time, but the point is that they would hunt for years in areas just full of big deer.
Nice racks.
They could never shoot one.
They were great shots at the range, too.
You know, they had a little range there at One Deer Camp.
They were great shots, but when they saw a buck, they'd start shaking and...
And it's the same thing with these SWAT team guys, especially in the middle-sized towns where they're really not well-trained.
They just...
they just dogsy run, and they just...
You know, I want to kill something!
And they defend that.
They defend the killing of the dogs, but then...
If you yell at a police dog, you get jail time.
I have seen at least three national attention stories.
The first one was eight years ago in Newcastle, Pennsylvania, Associated Press.
I have the story memorized.
I must have covered it on air 20 times.
I'm covering it 21st time right now, or whatever it is, 50th time, I don't know.
And the guy's walking through a parking lot, and, uh, A police dog, the window's down, it's in the summer, and the police dog's head lunges out, snarling and trying to bite him, and he screams, oh my god, oh my god!
F-U dog.
The officer's walking out, sees it, runs, grabs him, tackles him, takes him to jail.
He was charged, he was convicted.
And he was given, uh, you can go pull the article up, I believe it was a two-year sentence, but I think it was cut down for yelling at a dog.
That was called assault by the court.
That's how fraudulent these courts are, what criminal jokes they are.
Now that just so happens to have happened to me five or six times, even eight years ago when I first heard of that happening.
I had had that happen to me, I think it was in a Target parking lot one time with a big dog.
One time it was even a shepherd in the back of a, um, Cab of a pickup truck?
I'm sure it's happened to all of you.
Most of you out there have been in parking lots, and the dog's asleep in there.
You're walking in a restaurant, you're walking in a mall, you're walking in a grocery store, and all of a sudden, it's on a short chain, but...
Over the side, and you're like, oh my God!
And then, yeah, I'm frankly, I'm a primitive human.
I scream back, you piece of filth!
I'm just walking through the parking lot!
You don't do that to a God's dog, because that...
a dog of King Zeus...
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He is a god to you.
alex jones
I've seen people get 20, 30, 40 years in prison for shooting a police dog when they send it into the house.
And in Houston a few years ago, they had this thing with helicopters and giant parades for some police dog.
And the point is, is that they can hold two opposite, completely different ideas.
Your dog is a piece of filth to be gunned down in the back.
But their dog is a god because it's about setting a precedent that you are beneath their animals.
Next time I get the awesome police chief in here, I'm gonna actually print up some of those articles asking me if a police dog is better than a human.
I've seen cases of where a police dog just goes crazy walking down the street with cops and starts biting some innocent person and the person kicks it in the mouth and is charged and gets jail time.
Because they are officers.
They... See, police, when a cop gets killed, 90 plus percent of the time, they hunt down who killed the cop and they go to prison and get the death penalty.
I know the conviction rate's above 90 percent.
When a slave human, a bond slave of the government, is killed, they solve less than 10 percent of murders.
So when a god is killed, they catch the mere mortal 90% of the time.
But when a mere slave mortal is killed, they only catch them 10% of the time.
Now the police have gotten a little upset, and it's kind of like Robby the Robot cannot compute.
In California, in Texas, in Nevada, in Arizona, in New Mexico, where every couple days I read about a cop, an FBI, federal, state, local being killed by an illegal alien.
Who runs back to Mexico, and Mexico won't even extradite them up here.
And then in a lot of cases, they let them go.
If they're connected to drug cartels, that's who runs Mexico.
And the police are like, well, we can't have this.
Well, why?
When it happens to us, the dirt-level citizens, it's alright.
I mean, I don't want cops getting killed.
I think it's horrible.
I wish no police were killed in the line of duty.
Maybe they wouldn't be so militarized and crazy and act like when they pull old ladies over that they pulled over Godzilla.
But I don't like your dogs being better than me.
And I don't like you treating our dogs like they're worth nothing.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
I went to one time for an AXS TV show we did years ago.
About nine years ago, I went to one house where the police came in, the chained lab was in the kitchen, chained up on his bed, he growled at them like any dog would do, and they shot the dog a whole bunch of times, blew its brains all over the wall, and I was there, I saw the brains, they'd removed the dog, and then fired through the wall wildly, and a bullet went through the wall and lodged one inch above the baby crib.
Just down off First Street, right down by the river.
That was the Austin SWAT team.
Just wildly spraying bullets when they come in the back door of some little hippie house.
Looking for marijuana.
God help us.
And there are all of these surveillance grids, they're federalizing local police, building the command centers, many of them are already built, building secret prisons, then denying they exist when they get caught, saying you don't have a right to know citizens about secret local prisons.
The military-industrial complex is eating the United States.
And what does Keith Uberman do?
Keith makes it a partisan issue of George Bush.
But then he goes on to admit that The Washington Post reported it's all being Standardized and transferred over to whoever comes in next in office.
Bush is a puppet.
This has been growing for decades.
Let's go ahead and play part of that MSNBC piece to analyze it.
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Worst persons and also my special comment on Mr.
McCain's ambition ahead.
First time for Countdown's number three story tonight.
The headlines breaking in the administration's 50 running scandals.
Bush.
Number three, support the Troopsgate.
Remember, that is a brand name, not actual support.
Twenty soldiers at the Army Wounded Vets Medical Center at Fort Sill in Oklahoma, telling USA Today that the facility there is just like part of the Walter Reed Center for Wounded Vets in Washington was.
Infested by mold.
Ventilation ducts were reported encrusted with the mold.
Ventilation ducts in two of the barracks.
Each is made up of 48 rooms filled with wounded soldiers and their family.
The commanding officer at Fort Sill says they're working on it now.
Number two, that's why they call it Counterintelligence Gate.
The Pentagon has a new unit.
The Defense Intelligence Agency Defense Counterintelligence and Human Intelligence Center.
it will have within it an office dedicated to strategic offensive counterintelligence operations.
As part of the cardinal tenet of American law, such operations spying on people who are known or suspected to be foreign intelligence officers or connected to foreign intelligence or international terrorist activities, that will of course be carried out abroad, also in this country.
Now that the Democrats were nice enough to fold up on FISA, the issue is all contained now, right?
Not exactly.
The Justice Department wants to revise the federal government's rules for intelligence gathering by state and local police, making it easier to share anything those police find about U.S. citizens with the federal government and all the intelligence agencies.
But let all those federal agencies retain all that information for as much as a decade.
Not that the local police would be able to do anything about it if they didn't like it, since this would apply to all 18,000 local agencies who get any kind of funding for the feds.
The point of this?
To increase our security and counter terror threats?
Nah. To pass these changes before Mr. Bush leaves office so that the next president can't do a damned thing about unraveling this disaster, which is, appropriately enough, an embryonic police state.
If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier.
alex jones
Just so long as I'm the dictator.
Let me explain to the police out there what this is for.
This is so they can take your grandmother and grandfather's pension fund.
It's so they can take your pension fund.
It's so they can enforceably inject you, as they tried five years ago, a smallpox vaccine.
But they gave 4,000 people and a whole bunch of them died of the 4,000 that took it, so the cops said no.
The firemen said no.
It's so they can make you do it.
Do you understand You are building your own cage.
You are going along with all of this.
This isn't freedom.
This isn't liberty.
Now, they always tell you about the domestic spying after it's already been in place.
Look, in 1978, the state police in Texas were caught with files on over 100,000 Texans.
Prominent preachers, politicians, spying, listening to everyone.
This is nothing new, ladies and gentlemen.
And these criminal groups use this intelligence gathering for business, for blackmail, for narcotics trafficking.
I mean, even Fahrenheit 9-11 that came out four years ago reports the local peace group that bakes cookies once a week, they had the local sheriff's department with a federal grant spying on them.
You understand?
And trying to get them to carry out violence, of course.
tom brokaw
Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
unidentified
The enemy struck America on September 11th.
But who is the enemy?
Bin Laden.
This is his MO.
We have to look to the Middle East.
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
brit hume
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
unidentified
Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
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Hey, Clyde!
What's up, Bonnie?
Well, I got a question about those shielded Secure Sleeves from Identity Stronghold.
Yeah, the sleeves that block us from stealing account numbers from the new credit cards with RFID chips.
What about them?
Well, I mentioned them to our friends and they went in for purchasing the Secure Sleeves.
Oh, Bonnie!
If everyone starts hearing about the Secure Sleeve, it'll destroy our plan to steal credit card numbers at the mall with my new RFID reader.
I know, but these are our friends, Clyde.
They promised not to tell anyone else.
I guess you're right.
That's what friends are for, I suppose.
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johnny cash
Will it make it easier on you now?
alex jones
But you got someone to blame.
unidentified
Got someone to blame.
johnny cash
You said, one love, one life, when it's one need in the night, one love we get to share it, it leaves you baby, If you don't care for it.
unidentified
Did I disappoint you?
Or leave a bad taste in your mouth?
alex jones
You act like you never had love And you want me to go without NATO suspends formal contract with Russia Brussels, Belgium.
NATO holds its punches against Russia on Tuesday, suspending formal contacts as punishment for the Georgia invasion.
Did you hear that?
That NATO is pulling its ambassadors from Russia?
I mean, that's the next step before war.
But bucking US pressure for more severe penalties More severe!
The Russian ambassador to NATO played down the impact of the emergency meeting of the Western Alliance.
The mountain gave birth to a mouse, said Dmitry Rogozin.
Although the Allies said they would not convene any more meetings of the NATO-Russian Council until Russian troops were drawn from Georgia, they bound the concerns from Europe, which depends heavily on Russia for energy, and stopped short of adopting Specific long-term steps to punish Moscow for its actions.
You gotta love that Associated Press headline.
It's every headline.
It's punish Russia, Russia's preemptive out-of-the-blue invasion, Russia attack Georgia.
Man, are we gonna let Russia get away with the crime they've committed?
But they know it's a gullible public.
And so they can blame Russia for what they have done.
and move weapon systems, even more weapon systems in all around them, escalating things.
Meanwhile, Merrill Lynch-Wachovia in danger of failing, says top strategist.
Merrill Lynch-Wachovia and other financial companies are at risk of failure as the cost of raising capital soars at a time when the banks need to pay settlements over auction rate securities.
David Kodak, chairman and chief investment officer of Cumberland Advisors, told CNBC today.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
I think the financial problem is halfway through the cycle.
There's another shoe to drop ahead of us, and it could be more severe, Kodak told Worldwide Exchange.
We have the video clip up on InfoWars.com right now.
And it goes on from there.
The cash companies need to shore up bad investments.
It's up to about $500 million.
We'll probably top $100 billion before it's all over.
Billion? They've already pumped in something like $900 billion.
And he went on to say that it's Merrill, Lynch, and Wachovia could go under basically at any time.
Meanwhile, repossession of houses was up 55% last month alone.
We just got those numbers on Monday.
Bankruptcies are way up.
These are the worst economic numbers we've seen in decades, and we haven't even begun to go down into the trough yet, according to all the experts.
I mean, they're all agreeing on this, and then Meanwhile, the dollar that dropped, you know, to 60-plus percent, it gained a couple pennies back, and they're saying, oh, dollar's strong again, everything's fine.
Well, all the fundamentals show it's going to go down even further, as they print more currency, as they issue more liquidity, as they pay off more debts through the national debt.
That is, private banks are bailed out, foreign companies are bailed out on the taxpayer dime.
We're shouldered with that.
As they race to build more prisons, race to militarize police, race to roll out microwave guns and sound cannons in secret detainment facilities, as they race to hire felons and set the precedent for private mercenary forces to engage in gun confiscation, as they announce the National Guard's door-to-door gun confiscation in Illinois, as they do knock-and-talk gun confiscations coast-to-coast, just there, they are heating up the police state as fast as they can, getting you ready.
Because you're not going to like what they're going to do to you.
Only politically exposing them, only showing their agenda will stop them.
If they're able to pose as the saviors, they've got their ear to the ground.
If they think you're going to buy it, they're going to launch it.
If the crooks think they can fool you, They're gonna drop the hammer.
Do you understand?
That's why we've got to expose government-sponsored terror.
Expose what they've done with the banking system by design.
Another controlled system.
If we don't, they're gonna win.
Ron Paul's coming up.
A lot of other big guests.
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Stay with us.
unidentified
We're on the march.
The Empire's on the run.
Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones
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alex jones
Carol Paul, the wife of Dr. Ron Paul, you know, had three emergency surgeries and was in critical condition.
She's a little bit better now.
He is at the hospital with her now.
We even have the hospital room number.
We can call it, but I'm not going to call.
We've got Jesse Benton as backup.
Ron Paul's supposed to be calling any time now.
But he's got to get away to a place in the hospital to come on the show.
We really appreciate that.
And if he has to come on in the next hour, we'll push Paul Watson back, because we've got to get Ron Paul's take on what's happening with the economy, what's happening in Georgia, what's happening with the Iran attack.
The intel he's getting, and what a great guy to come on this show, even when his wife has been fighting for her health, to put it lightly.
So Dr. Paul is scheduled to be joining us right now.
We'll see when he makes it.
Paul Watson in 30 minutes, Jonathan Ellenhoff in a couple hours, Wayne Madsen with Big Breaking News, Professor Peter Dale Scott, author Peter Dale Scott, as well today.
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And we helped him make it at his request.
And I really like Jason.
I have to say he's my favorite of the trio.
I like the other guys too, but he really is a great guy.
And his film is excellent.
It turned out better than I thought it would be with his directorial debut, Fabled Enemies.
It's a very good documentary.
Our past films covered how they blew the towers up, and how they did the bombs, and the NORAD drills, and the stand down.
The fact that they were caught lying or they had the motive and and and but the history of government-sponsored terror That's what my films have covered.
They've been very effective But fabled enemies Gets into the hard-cold facts How the hijackers in detail were trained at US military bases how they were really decoys hired by the US government With mr. Springman the head of the embassy Visa division going public about how he was ordered to let him in and basically told their CIA assets their terror designation as a cover Got
Ray McGovern in it It's got a Cynthia McKinney.
It's just an excellent film fabled enemies.
We went interviewed him Also, it shows you Israel's involvement.
It shows how Israel Was shadowing the whole thing and deeply penetrating intelligence and how they got the codes How only Israel could get the daily White House top, ultra-secret, above-top-secret codes for the stand-down in Washington.
And how they got the transponder code for Air Force One.
Remember all that?
Well, that supposedly happened because Al-Qaeda had penetrated the White House.
Yeah, right.
So, I mean, it just covers so much more.
It covers a lot of areas that aren't well-known, that is some of the most powerful information.
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It's not as good, but it's almost as good.
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forgetting to plug the films and plug PrismPlanet.tv, and that's such an effective part of our arsenal and what we do in the fight.
And with Truth Rising and now with Fabled Enemies, we have DivX versions, which most, I keep saying half, but most of the new DVD players And so, that means you can put it on a normal CD.
On a normal CD, you can put a whole bunch of films.
Depends on their size, but scores of them.
Well, you can just take cheap, regular disc and burn a DivX version that looks amazingly clear.
I mean, we've been watching it here on big screen, 40-something inch TV that we have, you know, in our editing suite.
So we can check the quality.
We need a big screen TV that'll be able to blow it up to make sure stuff looks good on a big screen TV, because that's where they really test the resolution and the pixelation.
And our DivX looks almost as good as a regular DVD.
I mean, not as good, but almost as good.
Obviously, a lot of our footage is shot in high def, and then when you see it crunched to DivX and blown up on a high def plasma screen TV, it doesn't look as good.
But it's very watchable, very nice.
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Well, I'm done babbling about it.
alex jones
Bottom line, people need to get a PrisonPlanet.tv membership.
I mean, it just gets better and better.
I want to thank all the members that were members four years ago, and we had one little server, and it would slow down at night when you were on it, and then we had two fancy servers, and then four fancy servers, and then we graduated in the 21st century and got a CDN about a year ago.
Now we have two CDNs, and so it's just rip-roaring.
And so we just continue to invest in making it better and better, because it is a huge conduit in getting the truth out.
And I've already said that, it's just any subject you want, Any topic you want, you can burn it to disk, give it to people, make a file, email it to somebody.
It's just a labyrinth of information.
One thing I want to do is hire another person to work on PrisonPlanet.tv to better categorize all the videos, better promote them.
I mean, there's just so much there.
And my book, uh, 9-11, Descent into Tyranny, is about to go out of print.
There's about 200 left of those, by the way.
In fact, I need to tell my Shopping cart guy.
I need to go ahead and just jack the price up on those because it's worth it and it raises capital for us.
When the last hundred and like sign them and number them is the last hundred.
It's kind of sad and then plus people deserve the value of the last hundred.
People want that collector so we'll do that.
I know Tex Marsh just ordered 200.
I think we're almost down.
Actually, I better run in there and do an accounting of that before they're gone.
Because when Descent into Tyranny is gone, it's gone.
No more Alex Jones books.
For about a year, Paul Watson's book has been out of print.
Ordered out of chaos.
We printed 7,000 of those.
And they're all gone.
Took like four or five years to sell them.
They're gone.
And that is an e-book.
The Scent of Tyranny is an e-book on PrisonPlanet.tv.
That's my whole point in getting off into that.
John, I guess Ron Paul obviously hasn't called, has he?
Yeah, let's not call the hospital number even though we're authorized to.
I just, you know what?
He's so professional, he wouldn't be calling unless Carol is having a bad time.
I almost feel guilty even having him on, though they've been asking us to have him on because they've got their big event coming up.
I know this is a big show, I want to promote it.
I almost don't even want to bug Jesse Benton about this, but I also want to get Ron Paul's take on Georgia.
We haven't had him on in about three weeks.
He was on right before all this started, about three or four days before it started.
I guess he was on the Monday before it all started.
And I really want to get his analysis on that because, not just because I want his take on it, his analysis, but because then whatever he has to say on the show will get a lot of attention and then people will For some reason, I mean, Ron Paul says something somewhere else that doesn't get a lot of attention.
They know, the stuff he says here on this show, because it's so big.
Thank God we're in this position, and the show's just exploding, that things are actually able to get out to a larger audience.
And that's why we shouldn't take any of this for granted.
Any of the time we have to warn people before the globalists stage a nuke attack, or buy a weapons release, or before they pull the rug out and there's a complete depression.
Or before they start a war with Russia or Iran and people email me and say, oh, you're a fear monger.
How? Is it fear mongering when we know the government, the criminals that run it for 50 plus years, have been testing deadly biological weapons, radiological systems, chemical weapons on the American people and the troops and the police and the military?
For some reason, their most dutiful servants Their most loyal dog-like servants, that's actually a compliment, are the ones they enjoy hurting the most.
It's so sick.
Well, the New World Order has a weird philosophy.
They say, if you're dumb and let us do it to you, you're fair game.
I mean, how is it not scary that there are thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of separate programs Some may have a dozen, some may have 5,000 people, 1,000 involved, some may have 110,000 involved.
We've listed them, we've covered them, it's in Endgame, all mainstream news admitting that they strapped down children and stuck ice picks in their brain in front of classrooms thousands of times.
Oh, you don't believe me?
Just type lobotomy ice pick.
You can watch black and white films from the 30s and 40s as a crying child going, look how they're insane, look how they're irrationally scared, and they just jab the ice pick in to the front of the lobe and laugh as the demonic psychiatrist students laugh and giggle and snicker.
See, these are professions which they're allowed to carry out their black ops.
It's psychopaths creating criminal guilds.
Or just type in Government footage of shock therapy.
Or type in children radiated to death in atomic experiments.
I mean, go look at it!
Go look at the photos of a two-year-old in a chamber about to be radiated to death.
What is that?
Is that fear-mongering?
You bet!
We better be concerned and scared of these people and fight them!
And stand up against them, and just vomit on them, basically, and say, we vomit you out.
We are not part of you, and we don't trust you or anything you do or say, because you've committed millions of crimes we know about.
500 plus thousand women from the 20s until 1987, last state to publicly stop doing it, and it still goes on, was Oregon.
And they'd go grab teenage girls out of class that made bad grades, and they'd take them and sterilize them.
And if they complained about it, they would just grab them and drug them for a few years.
And where do you think psychopathic people that want to rape people go?
They go get jobs at mental institutions because they can say, oh, they're just crazy.
Where do you think pedophiles go?
They go to become CPS workers and truancy officers.
That's in criminology.
That's just a fact.
Don't roll your eyes, police.
You must not have taken any criminology.
So this is the type of stuff we deal with.
And the crimes go on and on and on.
Just in the last few years, New York Daily News and a few others have reported they take children and they test pesticides and drugs on them till they die.
And we know about that because even the sicko CPS workers who were taking the children and then selling them to the state to private medical firms, even they freaked out.
When they saw them killing the children and said, and went and said, is this authorized?
I mean, does it concern you that our criminal government snuck attack Russia two weeks ago?
Does it concern you that our criminal government is so evil that they actually have convinced the public through deception that Russia attacked Georgia premeditatedly?
AP today!
It says, NATO has withdrawn its ambassadors from Russia.
That's a big deal, to suspend diplomatic links.
That always happens right before a war.
In punitive steps to punish Moscow for its actions.
See how everything's, it's actions, it's actions.
Oh, and people just hear that, oh, Russia's being punished for its actions.
Over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.
I mean, I don't know what's bigger, the sneak attack on Russia, or the media, the dominant media lying.
I mean, does that make you sleep good at night?
People who work for the government?
People who rationalize the neocons that tune in and make jokes and talk about how they want to kill me on their websites all day?
Or now the liberals calling me a fascist because I'm telling you Barack Obama's a complete warmongering fraud just like John McCain I mean, I won't buy into your delusions Does it make you feel good knowing the corporate media lies that bad and twist and spins I mean our country's in a lot of trouble When The lies are that blatant and they're just getting worse and worse more and more Obvious.
And you know why it's happening?
Because the establishment is going for broke.
They have thrown in all their force behind the New World Order.
They know they're in trouble.
That only encourages them.
That's only the hellfires licking at them.
Lashing them as they pull this carriage over the cliff.
That only makes the froth fly out of their horses' mouths that much thicker.
The veins bulge out on their chest and legs.
Imagine them as four black horses drawing a carriage with us in it over the cliff.
It only intensifies their lying and twisting and spinning and every form of disinformation and forgery and fraud.
But as above, so below.
You look at the general public below?
More fraud, more scams, more cheating, more laziness, more...
And you've still got a lot of hard-working, good, decent people that keep this nation together and keep it moving forward to some degree.
We are a nation in massive decline.
We are a nation imploding on every front.
And we have to admit how bad we are before we can set about fixing it.
We have to admit we have a problem, like a drug addict, like an alcoholic, And we have to admit that what we're doing is wrong, but instead we're just lying to ourselves, and we want the delusion.
We want to be lied to.
We don't want to admit what we've done wrong.
And that's why we're in a lot of trouble.
All right, we're going to come back.
Ron Paul should be popping in later.
This happens quite often between Congress, his wife being sick, the campaign for liberty, but he's scheduled, so is Paul Watson.
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A day unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
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The enemy struck America on September 11th.
brit hume
But who is the enemy?
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Bin Laden.
This is his M.O. We have to look to the Middle East.
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
brit hume
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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Bin Laden's connections to the CIA.
The hijackers'ties to the FBI.
The Saudi Arabian connection.
The Israeli Intelligence Network.
Warnings and war games.
The shadow government.
And much, much more.
Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
alex jones
The preacher man says it's the end of time In the Mississippi River she's a-goin'drive Ron Paul is calling in in the next 10 minutes.
He just called us.
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The interest is up and the stock market's down.
And you're only getting mugged if you go down.
alex jones
I'm going to treat you to a minute or two of a junior.
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I live back in the woods, you see.
A woman and a kid and a dog and a man.
Bye. Bye.
I've got a shotgun, a rifle, and a four-wheel drive, and a country boy can survive.
Country folks can survive Oh, yeah I can plow a field all day long.
I can catch catfish from dusk till dawn.
Make our own whiskey and our own smoke too.
Ain't too many things these old boys can't do.
We grow good old tomatoes and homemade wine and country boy can survive.
Country folks can survive.
Because you can't starve us out.
Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.
Because when the old boys raise don't shotgun.
alex jones
We say grace.
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We say grace.
We say a minute.
Ain't in the back.
We don't give a damn.
We came from the West Virginia coal mines and the Rocky Mountains and the Western skies.
alex jones
I'm We can skin a buck, and we can skin a buck, and we can run a trot line, and And the establishment doesn't like that.
They want you gilded, neutered in the city.
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I had a good friend in New York City.
He never called me by my name, just he'll be.
alex jones
You want to beat the New World Order?
Make the countryside survive.
Why do you think they're banning all forms of hunting in England?
To destroy that culture.
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They hate anyone who's self-sufficient.
alex jones
Why didn't the British government in 97 launch the foot-and-mouth bio-attack?
Oh, they were caught!
They don't want you being able to stand up and be independent.
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They want you in the city where they can suck off you.
alex jones
And now they've got the Animal ID and the Premise Society to shut down the farms.
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We've got to stand up against them.
Can't let them win.
alex jones
You don't like that, do you?
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We say great, we say man, if you ain't into that, don't give a damn.
We're from North California and South Alabama and little towns all around this land.
We can skin a buck and run a trot line and a country boy can survive.
Country folks can survive.
Country boy can survive.
Country folks can survive.
alex jones
Man, I never played the whole thing.
This here, Hillbilly, stump-jumping, tobacco-chewing, what's that thing Willie always says?
I just love it once I start playing it.
Maybe we need to queue up later.
The old eastbound and down, that little Smokey and the Bandit for you.
Yeah, we're not going to stop.
We're not going to back down from anybody.
You pick a fight with the American people, you pick a fight with me, you're going to get one right back.
So don't sit there and whine while you get your butt kicked.
Just realize you're a punk.
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brit hume
May I have everybody's attention, please?
I've come with a message of information.
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9-11 was an inside job.
luke rudkowski
Do you like being a punk?
Yes, sir.
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Do you like being a puppet for the New World Order?
luke rudkowski
How do the American people know that 9-11 wasn't staged, wasn't engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR?
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The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.
Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
An inside job.
How dare you?
If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.
All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.
And if the government has not told the truth, in five years we will be here on the 10th anniversary of...
Truth Rising.
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It's now time to take the revolution to the next level.
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alex jones
It's hour number two.
Jonathan Ellenhoff is going to be joining us in one hour to talk about the latest police state developments in Denver, ahead of this giant police state promotion that is the DNC.
Then Wayne Madsen, 30 minutes after that, dealing with threats to bloggers.
The NSA reportedly talking about killing bloggers.
Why don't we just quote, kill them?
That's what they do in Iraq.
They just kill alternative newspaper people.
And Peter Del Scott in the fourth hour.
Ron Paul scheduled to be calling in in the next five minutes.
And also Paul Watson at the bottom of this, our 4.30 as well.
We've got Steve coming on.
I'd like to, later in the week, I'd like to have them pop in and visit with us.
Really, the big news is, on the military front, is that NATO has suspended formal contacts with Russia, kicking their Russian ambassador to NATO out.
That is always a foreshadowing of intensifying physical conflict.
It's always been in the past, a very Serious move, and they say because of Russia's unwarranted sneak attack on Georgia.
That's why they're doing that, knowing that the public think that Georgia, USA was attacked.
Meryl Wachovia in danger of failing.
Top Strategist says huge news there.
Also, MSNBC reporting a police state is being set up.
Also, New York City settles With anti-war protesters for two million dollars.
They would not allow anyone in the city to have anti-war signs anywhere.
The city would not, quote, issue permits.
See, first they say, oh, you gotta have a permit to protest and be on the sidewalk.
Permits were just first for parades blocking streets, which sounds reasonable in big cities.
But then it's, well, you gotta have a permit, period, and we're not issuing them.
And then they arrested thousands and beat them and everything else.
And they've lost a whole bunch of lawsuits there.
They just lost another two million dollar lawsuit.
But don't worry, they'll just squeeze it out of slaves on the streets of New York.
Continuing with this amazing report here in front of me, the FBI admits it has no case against Dr. Ivins.
The FBI has admitted it has no case against Ivins, as summarized in an article in the Washington Post, and they also accidentally destroyed the only samples of anthrax from the government lab.
But they had to do that, because then they couldn't Have proof and link it up to the anthrax that was sent out that was weaponized in the U.S. government.
So they have to claim someone else made this in their basement.
I mean, just incredible lying.
And even my mother-in-law, who's smart but, you know, somewhat establishment, believes in the system, calls up yesterday going, oh my God, the government's covering up what really happened with the anthrax.
What do you think?
You think they did it, basically.
I mean, you know, everybody's waking up.
I mean, this is getting too obvious.
Then they said he's always been the only suspect.
They knew he did it four years ago, but they were busy just six months ago, still persecuting Dr. Steven Hatfield.
See, there's some people still have a memory.
Some people still pay attention and are going, wait, the lies are just getting so thick here.
Meanwhile, the government weapons expert who broke in after he'd been fired a four day drink into the area with the anthrax, he's working in another bioweapons lab in New Mexico.
And no one is even talking about him, Dr. Philip Zack, but we are, and it is covered.
Oh, I forgot.
How timely!
Fabled Enemies, Jason Burmess' new film that comes out in just ten days.
We're going to release it a little early on the 31st, but officially it'll be out September 1st, at presentplanet.tv.
There is a whole, I'd say, 15-minute segment in the two-hour film On the anthrax, and guess who one of the presenters in the film is?
One of the experts interviewed on the Israeli connection, also the anthrax and the rest of it.
That is good old Mike Rivero of WhatReallyHappened.com.
So I had forgotten to let you know that we also in the new film cover the anthrax attack, and who really launched that?
We'll be right back with Congressman Ron Paul, who just called in from the hospital with his beloved Carol.
And we really appreciate him taking the time out to do that.
We'll be back in three minutes with the congressman.
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We'll be back in three minutes with the congressman.
Bye.
tom brokaw
Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
unidentified
The enemy struck America on September 11th.
brit hume
But who is the enemy?
unidentified
Bin Laden.
This is his M.O. We have to look to the Middle East.
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
brit hume
Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. I'm aware that some Israeli citizens have been detained.
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Bin Laden's connections to the CIA, the hijackers'ties to the FBI, the Saudi Arabian connection, the Israeli Intelligence Network, Warnings and War Games, the shadow government, and much, much more.
Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.
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alex jones
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
We have Congressman Ron Paul with us.
We'll be posting this interview in full at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
He joins us to give us an update on his wife, Carol.
Wonderful person we're all praying for.
Then the Russia-Georgia situation, the economy, and the upcoming police state.
situation with the microwave guns, the secret FEMA camp now exposed in Denver.
We've got him for one segment because he's obviously got to be there at the hospital in South Texas with his wife, Carol.
Congressman, thank you for breaking your silence after the last week of your wife being so ill here on this radio show.
Thank you for joining us.
ron paul
Well, it's good to be back with you, and I feel a lot better even though we had some tough days.
She was on a breathing machine for 12 days.
And she got off the machine yesterday, and they got her out of bed yesterday.
So I'm feeling a lot better, and I appreciate everybody's concerns.
alex jones
Well, you're a medical doctor, but for those that don't know, getting someone off a respirator and getting them up, this is huge news.
ron paul
Yes, it is.
It really is.
It's a big, big step, and you can imagine what it's like to lie flat on your back for 12 days.
One thing she said was, wow, I'm weak.
So, but she's doing well.
alex jones
Well, I've talked to people that have been on respirators.
It's also very painful to have it pushing your lungs full of it.
ron paul
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Wow, she's a trooper.
Well, I'm sure the prayers had a great effect.
And folks, keep those prayers up.
Now, to kill any rumors, you are currently going to be at the big rally for the Republic with Jesse Ventura and all these huge musical guests.
You're going to be there barring some turn for the worse.
ron paul
That is right.
And things are looking better there for a couple of days.
I didn't know.
What I could do or would do if you were like that.
But she isn't.
She's getting better and she'd want me to be there.
So I have all the plans.
I've been talking to staff more now about the details of the schedule and it's all coming together.
And you know, throughout the campaign, I was worried about the rally.
Some days we only had three days to put things together.
And yet, the people always showed up.
So I'm optimistic that the people are going to show up.
You want to see your crowd and you want to feel it because You know, if it's slightly less full than it could be, you know, then maybe, yep, I didn't show up.
Well, I mean, you don't have a lot of that sort of thing.
alex jones
There's 14,000 tickets.
I mean, you don't have many more to sell here, do you?
ron paul
No, a couple thousand, and we're going to probably get...
The students come back into town that day, I think September 1st, and that's where we get a lot of support.
You know how many young people have joined us.
I think the young people, when they come back to town and realize that there's still some standing room positions, they're going to come.
alex jones
Well, there's no doubt that it's going to oversell.
I mean, it's going to be a barn burner, and people always wait until the last minute.
Ladies and gentlemen, you know, a week and a half out, they've only got about 20% or 15% of the tickets left.
You're not going to get them if you don't buy them very, very soon.
Uh, so, um, and before the Congressman leaves us, we'll tell you where to get those tickets.
Now, let's get into the really big issues here.
You have been talking about How the West has been encircling Russia, moving weapons systems in, the neocons, Israel-NATO moving advisors in, clearly ordering the sneak attack.
That's now come out.
The media spinning it, saying that Russia attacked.
I mean, total contempt for the public and the facts.
Can you give us your geopolitical analysis, Congressman, on what we're looking at here with Georgia, and now the Russian ambassadors kicked out of NATO this morning, according to the Associated Press?
ron paul
Well, you know, I think this is a good example of why we argue the case for non-intervention.
We are in places where we shouldn't be and it just leads to a lot of problems.
But also, it shows you how the two parties are just thinking exactly alike.
Both McCain and Obama says the same thing.
Send them more money.
Send them more support.
Send them troops if necessary.
And being very aggressive, that to me is just so tempting.
Typical of the problems that we face.
And you were right in your opening statement there that it was the Georgians that started the military attack.
And yet, when you think about what's happened in the last week or so from the media, how many reports have we heard even suggest that maybe there was a balanced position on this?
It was 100% essentially said, you know, it was all the Russians' fault.
And all they should start thinking about is, how would we react if the Russians were in Mexico, stirring up trouble on the borders and claiming New Mexico as part of Mexico?
You know, something like that.
We'd be livid and infuriated, and yet we are up, butting against the boundaries all around the Soviets.
We're taking that oil from the Caspian Sea and running it through Georgia, and we have a puppet government there.
And these are the unintended consequences, maybe intended by some people, who knows?
But it's about oil, and it's about our empire, and it's about the establishment running roughshod over the American people.
alex jones
What do you think the New World Order crowd, because it's not just the neocons, NATO's behind it, Israel...
Uh, their foreign minister and their defense minister are not even Georgians, and are Israel bragged and Haratz.
They had 1,000 troops involved, 1,000 Israeli mercenaries.
I mean, what were they thinking to gain from launching a dead of night sneak attack on South Ossetia, and even having, this is confirmed, Georgian peacekeepers in with the Russian peacekeepers, actually stabbing them in special forces maneuvers in the back?
ron paul
Well, obviously they condoned it and encouraged it, and why, you know, because it doesn't work out so well, even from their viewpoint, you wonder why they do it.
I mean, I guess they deceived themselves.
I mean, look at the mess they...
They probably actually believed that they could conquer Iraq and solidify power there, permanently control the oil, but it didn't work out exactly that way, and I'm sure they are just distorted thinking.
But now we, the people, We'll have to suffer the consequences.
I mean, when Obama comes up and says, well, what we need to do is immediately send him a billion dollars.
I'm all for that.
Did he ever say, where are we going to get the billion dollars?
How are we going to squeeze it out of the American people?
How are we going to take it out of the pockets of the American people?
And they're all in big trouble.
Oh, well, we'll print the money.
Oh, we'll print the money.
Oh, then all your bills are going to go up because the dollar is going to go down.
They never talk about that.
That's why our revolution that's going on now just has to be successful, because I think there's a growing number of us who are just sick and tired of what we're getting.
alex jones
Absolutely. What would you do as president?
I mean, you're no longer running now, but what would you advise?
If they would listen to you, and obviously our listeners can then go out on the campaign trail and call the media, and then this can be put in an article, and then we can push it to the public.
What would you do in a relationship with Russia?
What would you do in hindsight, but now currently, since this new Cold War has been started?
ron paul
Well, we should talk to the Russians, and we should deal with them, and be friends with them, and trade with them, and tell them that we have no intention of intimidating you.
We don't want To put missiles right up at your border, claiming that we're going to protect Europe against the Iranians.
The Iranians don't have missiles.
They have no nuclear weapons.
They can't even make gasoline for themselves.
So it's just a farce for us to say that we're there.
And I tell the Soviets or the Russians that we have no intention.
We're going to take those missiles out, and we're getting out of NATO.
We don't even care about NATO.
Instead of expanding NATO and trying to get Europe to intimidate you and surround you, I would say that we ought to just back off if we don't get out of NATO the first week.
Just say, look, we're not going to keep pressing to get all Eastern Europe to belong to NATO.
Fortunately, the other European nations didn't accept the membership of Georgia or our problems would be much worse.
alex jones
All right, a few final questions, moving quickly here.
The economy.
They're talking about MSNBC, CNBC, Top Analyst, about Merrill Lynch collapsing, Wachovia collapsing.
They're saying now, after telling us six months ago that the worst was over, that the worst is to come.
We have a respite in dollar plunging, but it's still low.
Where do you see all this going?
ron paul
Well, I think we have a long way to go.
They can prop things up and they can sort of fool the markets and, you know, the plunge protection team can get in there and buy and sell.
And manipulate markets, but ultimately the market is all powerful.
I would say that at the very, very most, we've only had 25% of the correction that is necessary.
So I think we have a long way to go.
And as long as government does everything to prop up bad investments, it makes it that much longer.
And the longer they wait for these corrections to make, the worse they are.
And I think this is what we're witnessing right now.
Instead of a small number of companies and banks going bankrupt now, They're going to prolong this, and it's going to be very, very painful.
I think this could last a decade or longer before all this correction.
Japan took a long time.
Their market collapsed in I think it was 1989.
They still essentially haven't recovered the financial benefits of their markets yet.
alex jones
So this is going to worsen the long term?
ron paul
Pardon me?
alex jones
You think this will worsen the long term?
ron paul
Oh yeah, I think it's going to get much worse.
Uh, even though in the short term they may be able to prop up and fool some people, but I think what they're doing is just prolonging the agony.
To me, it's sort of, and I use the analogy of a drug addict, you know, they just keep giving the drug addict another fix.
It feels better, but eventually the patient dies if you do that, so...
alex jones
Do you think that this is...
ron paul
We're going to kill the dollar.
alex jones
Is this being propped up for the election?
ron paul
Oh, yeah, I think they always do that, and also I think maybe this Georgia Uh, incident could be, uh, part of the goal of, uh, the most radical neocons, uh, claim that, uh, McCain benefits from this.
alex jones
Congressman, we only have a minute and a half left.
Uh, folks need to go to rallyfortherepublic.com or to, uh, the other Ron Paul websites, link through and get tickets.
Keith Olbermann admits we're now going into a police state.
The Justice Department is now announcing they want to turn local police totally into federal spies, spying on Americans.
They've now discovered a secret camp for 5,000 people in Denver, with local police running a secret camp.
And now MSNBC says we're going into a police state.
Everything you've been warning us about, what should we do on that front?
ron paul
Well, we have to confront them, and this is difficult, because if you confront right now, with all your rights guaranteed by the Constitution, You're liable to end up in prison.
You know, if you protest the tax code, which, and you know the way they collect taxes, unconstitutional, and they have all the guns, they put you in prison.
Same way with the monetary system.
So I have resorted to doing what I do.
I mean, I've been fighting for the enforcement of our Constitution through the legislative process, and hopefully we can have a change.
That's why I'm working so hard with the Campaign for Liberty and putting this organization, you know, throughout the country so that we can galvanize and energize an army of people to bring about changes peaceably.
But if it doesn't happen just because of what they're doing, I'm afraid it could lead to violence.
alex jones
Should we physically stand up instead of going to a total Nazi Germany if that happens?
ron paul
Well, no, I think eventually we will, and I probably will be talking about this at the convention.
Hold on, Congressman.
alex jones
Hold on.
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Ron Paul's campaign manager died of pneumonia, working himself to death.
His wife has had a pacemaker put in and now fought for her life.
No doubt the campaign trail is grueling.
He's sacrificed so much for us.
Finishing up in one minute, because you've got to go back to your wife.
Finishing up with the idea of if they ignore the Constitution, Bill of Rights, our votes, the states, what do we then do?
Do we stand up physically?
ron paul
Well, there's always that possibility that that time will come.
I am working hard to try to avoid that, but I do believe that in the near future, many of us will have to make a decision whether we'll practice civil disobedience.
And of course, I believe in that.
I believe that Gandhi and Martin Luther King did bring about positive changes, and they weren't violent people.
But when the state goes off track, you usually do have to stand up.
alex jones
And you're going to be talking about that at the Rally for the Republic?
ron paul
Well, yeah, and just when civil disobedience should be practiced, it's an individual personal decision.
But yeah, this is a historic event coming up September 2nd, and I expect that we're going to have a grand rally.
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Thank you very much.
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He just came back to the airwaves last night and today.
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Hello, it's good to be back.
All right, give us your analysis, your take on where the Russia situation's going.
Let's get into the economy, the police state, all of it.
paul joseph watson
Well, the Russia situation basically started for me when a couple of Fridays ago, um, we were updating the websites in the morning and we read stories about Georgian forces attacking and killing Russian peacekeepers.
But by the time we went and, uh, Looked at the news again in the afternoon.
It became the fact that Russia had attacked Georgia, and the original stories about Georgia attacking the Russian peacekeepers had all but disappeared.
And of course, that was timed to coincide with the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics.
So, by the time that Saturday morning came around, it was the evil Russians that had started the war, killed civilians, They were being painted as the villains of the entire piece by the Western media.
alex jones
And that's ongoing now.
Break that down.
paul joseph watson
Well, there's numerous examples.
BBC, Sky News, CNN have all used footage of the ruins of the South Ossetian provincial capital, which was destroyed, 70% destroyed.
They've all used footage of that destruction and said in the narrative that the footage represents the aftermath of the Russian attack on Gori, the Georgian town of Gori.
alex jones
Yeah, they're not liberal, they're not conservative, they are pentagon run and that's come out.
Right, and I mean, it's not as if we haven't seen it before with the fake concentration camp in the Bosnia situation back in the mid-nineties,
paul joseph watson
where ITN, which is another British news organization, filmed a refugee camp From the inside looking out and then splashed across the newspapers next day that it was a concentration camp and that of course started the massacre of the Serbians which was a NATO operation.
But from the perspective from outside the US in this Russia-Georgia situation is that it's basically the decline and the next stage in the decline and fall of the Anglo-American Empire.
Because every time that Bush And now the unprecedented move.
alex jones
I mean, this normally is a prelude to war.
They have kicked the Russian ambassadors out of NATO.
paul joseph watson
Right, so it's basically a redrawing of the lines.
It's the emergence of Russia and China as the new empire, and the decline and fall of the Anglo-American empire.
alex jones
But even during the Cold War, Russia had ambassadors to NATO.
That's part of detente.
Part of talking.
This is unprecedented.
This is a message, as they roll weapons and troops into the region surrounding Russia.
And now we have the number two general.
In Russia coming out and saying that they are getting intel that you reported yesterday at PrisonPlanet.com that a false flag attack may be in the offing.
Tell folks about that.
paul joseph watson
Yeah, that was Russian General Staff Anatoly Nogov, difficult to pronounce, but yeah, he's a top general in the Russian military, and he said on Monday that Georgia was possibly planning to commit false We're good to
alex jones
go. And let's be clear, there's already been a false flag attack, an attack on Russia, and then the media claiming Russia did it.
That is a false flag right there, and so when they say they're getting intel, that they may blow stuff up and blame it on the Russians, I mean, this is getting really serious.
paul joseph watson
Yeah, well, I mean, the original attack claimed it was indiscriminate in targeting civilian areas, universities and hospitals and so forth.
Killed over, I mean, the conservative estimates, Well, that tells us right there,
alex jones
the Western media is completely evil, the governments are completely criminal, And we already knew this, but it's just more validation that you can believe nothing they say or do.
It is a criminal enterprise going for broke.
paul joseph watson
Exactly, and I mean, it was exemplified when they had that 12-year-old American girl on the Fox News who was talking about how the Russians were the aggressors and, I mean, how the Georgians were the aggressors, and she was saved by the Russian troops.
And they just cut her off.
I mean, Sky News and others have used actual clips of South Ossetian civilians screaming and crying and mourning their loved ones and said that they were Georgian citizens mourning the loss of their loved ones after the Russian attack.
So they'll completely flip it around.
alex jones
They've even shown Georgian And then another thing that's
paul joseph watson
dangerous is the fact that you've got this Sarkashvili character is so clearly mentally unstable.
There was footage of him which we posted on Monday where he's on live television.
He's talking to Bush or Condoleezza Rice on the phone and he literally starts eating his own and And it's not as if it's, you know, it's not a clear thing.
He's actually eating his tie on live television.
alex jones
It was like a Monty Python skit of showing a crazy person in a mental institution.
He crams the red tie in his mouth and then like a child with a crazy look starts chewing on it and just keeps going on live TV going, I mean, just nuts.
paul joseph watson
Exactly. And then there's that other footage of him scampering away after a plane flies over.
And it's just pathetic.
And the people behind him are pathetic that, you know, NATO and the Anglo-American Empire, every time they make a statement and Russia ignores it, it just makes them look weaker.
So it's the next stage in the collapse of that empire, and the advance of a new one, and that's obvious for everyone to see.
alex jones
Well, I mean, the Russians aren't good, their government's corrupt, most governments are bad, the Chinese government's horrible, but the point is, when we're worse than them, And when we have leaders that are...
I mean, Condoleezza Rice is a complete moron.
Bush is a complete joke.
And we're all being blamed for this, ladies and gentlemen.
We... The world knows we're lying.
It's all over foreign news.
Look at the American media.
They are congenital liars.
Look how dumb their people are.
You know, they say Russia attacked Georgia.
I mean, we are a laughing stock, ladies and gentlemen.
paul joseph watson
Yeah, I mean, there's been global polls about, you know, which side people believe, and the overwhelming majority believe the Russians, and it's not as if the Russians haven't been, you know, fingering the fact that the entire Western media is engaged in...
I mean, Lavrov came out, the Russian foreign minister, and he called it a propaganda scam that is attempting to present an aggression on the part of the Georgian army.
alex jones
I mean, what do they expect Russia to do?
They came in, they pushed the military out, the Georgians kept firing while saying, cease fire, cease fire, begging for help, and announcing that Russia had invaded, and then the Russians have pulled back.
folks. Oh, man.
paul joseph watson
I mean, yeah, exactly.
Then you've got, I think it was last Friday, repeated about Russia attacking or advancing towards, in preparation to attack, the Georgian capital, Tbilisi, and other areas which the media was reporting that they were attacking.
The next day, that news completely disappeared, it was completely made up.
The Russians were trying to point this out, and, you know, nobody mentions it the next day when it disappears from the headlines.
alex jones
What we are is a delusional country.
And what extent is it in England?
I know your media is almost worse than the US media.
I have to say on this subject, you know, later they'll claim they weren't part of it.
It's a little bit slicker in England, but at the time they're just as, just as or worse at twisting and lying.
Are the British people buying it?
paul joseph watson
Um, not as much as the Americans, that's for sure.
I mean, there were headlines in the newspaper the day after it happened saying, you know, the pipeline war, and people began to learn that it was about this BTC pipeline that passes just underneath Russia.
But what's good about Britain is that Russia Today, which has carried all the most precise news about this entire conflict, is on the satellite broadcasting system along with Sky News, BBC and all the others.
I mean, we've been accused of parroting Russian propaganda, but the fact is that Russia Today have had on, for interviews, Paul Craig Roberts.
You know, people from LewRockwell.com, RayMcGovern.com, people like that, who are on your show regularly.
alex jones
Well, I have to say, I mean, Russia Today is incredibly accurate.
I mean, it's thought-provoking.
I mean, I wish we had TV like that here.
I'm watching it, and I've got research from other sides.
I'm not even just believing it, and it's accurate.
I mean, it blows me away.
paul joseph watson
Yeah, to say that the Russian media is more independent than the British or the American just highlights how much trouble we're in.
alex jones
Because, I mean, they'll even, quote, show both sides, but there isn't really any both sides about it.
I'd say I'm worried, Paul.
It's just, it's getting crazier and crazier.
paul joseph watson
Exactly, whereas, you know, everybody in America, or if you take Yahoo.com as the News Agenda in America, they're concerned about a plastic monkey suit that people claim is Bigfoot, and that's been top of the news all this week.
I mean, what is going on in people's minds?
alex jones
And you've got two scam artist corrections officers running around with this monkey suit that I identified in five minutes.
Exactly. They want to know about a monkey suit.
I'm sorry, the Russian media, the people there, they don't want to know about monkey suits, folks.
The Japanese, we have Well, in my own private life, I deal with people making up stuff about me that's just whole cloth made up, and our own movement buys it.
And it's like, answer for this, answer for that, and I'm like, it's not even true, I'm, you know, it's just so incredible.
I mean, we really, I keep repeating it, but it is, it is a wanton delusion.
People are delusional, Paul.
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paul joseph watson
It gives them refuge, doesn't it, from facing real issues, doesn't it?
I mean, it's been that way for a while.
But the level of wanton mindlessness, which is evident when you read the news every day, and what is top of the news is just baffling.
When a fake monkey suit can be top of the news while we may be on the verge of World War III, or at the very least, you know, a future nuclear conflict, people are obsessing about a plastic monkey suit for an entire week.
alex jones
Well, over that weekend, 888-889-8810, the top story was celebrity hairdos and a car wreck by some Hollywood star.
I just don't...
I mean, folks, this is life and death.
This isn't a game.
This isn't a game having a criminal media that tells you Russia attacked Georgia.
It isn't a game having a criminal media...
The government staged terror attacks, folks!
It's now come out in mainstream news that Dick Cheney wanted to stage more and blow up our ships.
They're not playing games!
We're all in danger here!
I'm sorry, monkey suits aren't important!
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And as Ron Paul was talking about earlier, both McCain and Obama I'm fully behind the US-NATO client state, Georgia.
Today, people are tipping...
I don't know if it's being announced yet.
It was set to be announced today or tomorrow.
Hillary. The favorite, or one of the favorites, apart from Hillary, Biden, is this guy from Indiana, this senator, Evan Bayh, who is the most virulent neocon you could ever imagine.
He was actually on the Liberation...
the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq with John McCain in 2003 which propagandized for the invasion of Iraq.
alex jones
Oh, so you're talking about who McCain's about to tip?
paul joseph watson
No, I'm talking about Barack Obama's...
alex jones
I didn't know that!
He's looking at...
Oh my God!
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The U.S. News and World Report said yesterday, quote, top Democratic Party officials are expecting Barack Obama Barack Obama to select Indiana Senator Evan Bayh as his running mate as early as midweek.
I don't know if it's going to be him, but it says that he's the favorite.
And he voted for the reauthorization of the Patriot Act in 2006.
He's repeatedly said that Iran has got a nuclear weapons program, despite the fact that the National Intelligence Estimate and the CIA said that's not true.
He's a keen supporter of AIPAC, the pro-Israel lobby group.
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And he's potentially going to be Obama's running mate, but...
alex jones
Stay there, let's talk more about it with Paul Watson.
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Somali, I'm going to put a letter in the next hour of Annalisa Rice on CBS News demonizing Russia and lying, and I've been reading during the break every comment.
These are people in the U.S. who are saying you're complete liars.
Russia attacked no one.
Georgia attacked them.
And you're saying you're a pack of liars.
I mean, I think the New World Order, I mean, is really, really starting to destroy all their credibility.
But going back to Paul Watson, Paul, you were bringing up the neocon that Barack Obama, I've got the U.S. News& World Report here, it certainly does say that, that he's probably going to pick a neocon warmonger as his VP.
I mean, that's just par for the course.
Go ahead.
paul joseph watson
Yeah, and there's a quote, which is from Whitehouse.gov, which says, on October 2nd, 2002, I joined President George W. Bush and Congressional leaders in a Rose Garden ceremony announcing their agreement on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War and was thanked by Bush and Senator John McCain, Obama's supposed adversary, for co-sponsoring the resolution.
And he also brought into force these resolutions against Iraq.
I mean Iran, sorry.
But most of these Democrats who voted for the Iraq War You know, later recant, or supposedly recant, but Senator Bayh didn't even recant in February 2006.
He refused to renounce his support for the war in Iraq in an interview with the Washington Post, and he also voted for the reauthorization of the USA Patriot Act in 2006, having also declared his, quote, lifelong affection for the state of Israel at an AIPAC luncheon in the same year.
So he's a complete neocon.
He sat on the commission with McCain to propagandize for the invasion of Iraq in 2003.
And he's also a Bilderberg member who gave a keynote speech at the 1999 Bilderberg meeting in Portugal.
And this is the person that they're tipping to become Obama's potential future VP. So this empty platitude of change is once again, you know, revealed for the reality.
alex jones
So see, now the Democrats, oh, you better not talk about 9-11 truth.
I mean, there's just no difference.
paul joseph watson
Boy, I read the news that McCain's five points ahead, and I couldn't care less, to be honest, because Obama would be more dangerous.
You know, we had a fresh-faced, young contender here in 1997 who promised change, and his name was Tony Blair.
Look what happened after that.
And the same kind of mindless idolatry of Blair is what I'm seeing now with Obama in 2008.
So if he's the man, then you can only expect things to get worse because they'll bring in...
the left fist of the socialist encroachment on your private lives, just as they have in Britain.
alex jones
And the Democrats are piling on to strengthen all the police state.
And I want to see what liberals are going to do.
Are you just going to now hail it and go, yes, it's, you know, it's good, but it was bad when Bush was doing it.
Oh man.
You know, I'm tired of being called a right winger, then a left winger.
Now I'm going to be a right winger again if Obama gets elected.
I just can't imagine McCain, I mean, the vast majority...
I've seen the statistics, it's 90 plus percent of those that get that type of cancer that McCain had, they end up dying within ten years.
And he had it nine years ago.
And his head, his cheeks are always swollen, his neck's always swollen, he looks like he's about to die.
Oh God.
And it's all this evil scum running everything.
It just never is going to end, these people.
Paul Lawson, stay there.
I want to do five more minutes with him.
We're going to get Jonathan Ellen off.
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We had Ron Paul on in the second hour, let's say.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're talking to Paul Watson right now.
Paul, I'm about to get into the microwave guns and the sound cannons and secret FEMA camps and local police saying, oh, we built a secret 5,000-man camp, but we can't tell you about it.
Now, our local police are secret.
Even Keith Olbermann admits they've been secretly federalized.
I mean, it's fake media, nothing but lies.
Four-plus trillion missing from the Pentagon.
I mean, it is...
Completely lawless, the government's completely illegitimate, and it's only getting worse, and then meanwhile I read about England with the frisk, the checkpoints, stopping your brother, putting him in a terror database.
I got stopped when I was over there.
Just tattletales everywhere.
More and more police.
It's total control.
You take a picture of the cops, they come and beat you up.
I mean, the whole Western world is sliding into tyranny, especially England and the US.
paul joseph watson
The latest round of the police state in Britain was started with the aid of a media scaremongering campaign about knife crime, which the official figures show that violent crime is in fact down.
alex jones
Notice how they call it knife crime and gun crime.
Go ahead.
paul joseph watson
Yeah. And now, on the back of this supposed epidemic of knife crime, Which on the news at six o'clock in the evening they show people running up to other people on CCTV cameras and violently stabbing them in the chest and so forth.
alex jones
And that's what the cameras are used for, to show you and scare you more, yes?
paul joseph watson
Yeah. So in response now, they've got random police checkpoints where police will just randomly show up en masse in riot vans to a train station, for example, which happened in a Yeah, so the police will turn up en masse and just start frisking people and harassing people in the name of stopping knife crime.
It's completely random.
it would have no effect.
And now they've actually brought a law in which says that if you are caught possessing a knife, it's instantly three years in prison, which came into effect the Monday after I got back from Switzerland where I had bought my dad a Swiss Army knife as a gift.
So if I'd have been going back a week later, I could have been locked up for three years for the crime of possessing a Swiss Army knife.
alex jones
And don't think we're joking.
One guy had been robbed three times.
He had an old shotgun and shot one of them.
He spent more than a decade in prison.
They got his farm in lawsuits.
He didn't want them raping his wife.
People have used a butcher knife against attackers.
paul joseph watson
And exactly as you said, they don't want anyone being able to defend themselves.
They don't want any form of self-sufficiency.
You know, in England, England now, they've got adverts on the TV threatening people with jail time if they don't get a license for their fishing rod.
Not just that you have to have a license to fish in certain areas, but you have to have a license just to own a fishing rod now in England.
That's how bad it's getting.
alex jones
Just total control, total scum government.
I mean, the Soviet Union was never this bad.
Just humiliation, domination, just the opposite of freedom.
Fat, stupid, evil cops stumbling around everywhere.
Armed felons in the military just urinating and defecating all over us.
Just laughing and smiling and giggling as everything goes to hell in a handbasket with a pack of media liars and criminals sucking the currency dry, blowing everything out.
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That's what we're up against.
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Oh, dear God.
Paul, stay there.
We'll get Elinor on the line, but I want to cross over with you and Elinor for a segment about any other police state news in England.
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Gotta have a license for a TV set, a license for your fishing rod.
England has now implemented a license to be able to change baby diapers to hug your children or be able to take them to events.
That's right, it's pedophilia to hug your child.
Your child!
Of course, the pedophiles that run the government are the ones doing that, and I'm not joking.
That's who runs the New World Order.
Uh, it's the total destruction of the family.
They're a few years ahead of us in England, but they're trying to push all the same things here.
Paul, some of the other fun things, uh, these scumbag criminals that rule over you in England, uh, where you're a subject, are now doing to you.
paul joseph watson
In England over the past two years, there's always been a big controversy about bins, which is trash cans, because now they're moving less and less towards collecting We're good.
the lid on the trash can is slightly ajar I mean I had this happen to me personally I put an extra you know bin in the trash can and the lid was slightly ajar so they slapped a sticker on the bin saying if you don't close the bin lid we won't collect Well, wait a minute.
alex jones
People are being arrested for that now, but this is the point.
Petty, tiny, small things now, you're going to go to jail.
That's the new order system.
paul joseph watson
Yeah, and they've got these environmental crime units with hundreds of tattletales running around waiting for people to drop tiny pieces of food so they can slap fines on them.
alex jones
Oh yeah, who was the guy that dropped an apple core and got arrested?
paul joseph watson
Yeah, there was a guy that...
Well, he didn't even drop an apple.
They claimed he dropped an apple core, even though he said he didn't.
So then they pursued him halfway across the town, and then finally arrested him and held him in a cell for hours on end for the crime of allegedly dropping an apple core.
alex jones
And this was at an outdoor cafe.
It was found off the table.
I mean, when I go to a restaurant, I got little children.
There's always something under the table.
That's it!
Jail time!
paul joseph watson
And there was a woman who was Now again,
alex jones
when you're in England, you'll see hordes of third world people doing whatever they want, but when you see citizens They just run over and harass you.
It's to let you know.
Because they know you pay the taxes.
They know you're the cow.
They know you're the milk cow.
And they're letting you know.
You work for us now.
I'm not kidding, folks.
paul joseph watson
Yes, to send a message.
Same way as the Bostoners.
As you mentioned before, it's like the panopticon.
People are told and it's reinforced constantly that they're under surveillance.
That they're harassed.
And so they self-regulate their own behavior so people just don't go out anymore and they don't talk to their neighbors in the fear that they might say something suspicious or whatever.
alex jones
And now in England, they pull up with vans and make people randomly walk through them looking for weapons.
They make you register with a thumbprint at almost all the big bars in London.
And then, uh, quote, uh, uh, tissue test you for drugs when you go in.
I mean, think of a science fiction movie 20 years ago where they DNA test you to go in a bar.
But see it's just, it's commonplace now.
Like that guy at the Hard Rock Cafe in London, he said, I don't see those cameras, they don't exist.
He wasn't joking, he said I choose not to see them.
paul joseph watson
That's right, people just try and live their lives without the knowledge that eventually all of this is going to impact them directly.
alex jones
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That's why you got 25, 35-year-old women all getting cancer, the numbers exploding, people dying everywhere, and it's just the government's still inject, inject, inject, inject...
Eugenics, eugenics, we've killed tens of thousands of you in other tests we've been caught doing, but trust us now, Alex Jones is lying, take the shots, we love you!
Russia really did attack Georgia, and there were WMDs, everything's fine!
paul joseph watson
What's happening now in the UK is that The parents are so suspicious of the vaccines that governments are openly saying, right, we're going to start an education campaign about the fact that the MMR shot, it really is safe.
So they're openly saying that they're going to start a PR campaign because they know that people are skeptical of the vaccines now.
So that's a benchmark of our success.
alex jones
Yeah, because the child takes it and goes into a convulsion and never comes back.
Then they swat team you for that.
I'm sorry, what were you saying?
paul joseph watson
Mass fluoridization of British drinking water supplies.
You know, people are eating the MSG-filled crisps and chips and all this kind of stuff, so...
It's an attack.
It's an attack on the mind.
alex jones
Well, here's an example.
Big Red chewing gum.
Wrigley Spearmint.
They all have aspartame, even if they're not sugar-free.
Everything has it.
You can't find gum.
I challenge you, go to a store in the U.S., and if it's a big candy aisle, you might find one gum that doesn't have it.
Maybe. Before, it wasn't there.
Now, MSG admittedly attacks the brain, causes inflammation, retardation over time.
It's in everything.
And the sodium fluoride, they haven't fluoridated your water until now.
And they even have studies in England where they first started fluoridating some cities 30 years ago.
20% IQ is lower, I mean, in the city than to a town right next door that doesn't have it.
Same thing with Amish communities.
I mean, it is a fact, and that's why we're so dumb in this country.
And soon, Paul, you're going to be joining us.
paul joseph watson
There's a stereotype in Britain which says that Midlanders, people who live around Birmingham, that area, are the most dumbest people in Britain.
Coincidentally, guess who's had fluoridated water for decades?
Midlanders, people around that area.
But it's a multiple-level attack.
As you said, Wrigley.
Chewing gum.
They've got a monopoly in Britain.
You can't get any other brand of chewing gum and it's filled to the brim with aspartame.
alex jones
Well, you know how I discovered that?
I'd always thought Wrigley's didn't have it.
About five years ago, I was eating some and I got a headache.
And I went and looked and it was a double-blind.
It wasn't placebo.
It wasn't psychosomatic.
I went, man, I've got a headache, like I'm gonna die of coke, and I looked, and it was aspartame.
paul joseph watson
Yeah, I had the same experience.
I used to chew it all the time.
Now I've finally found some on the internet that I have to get in bulk, on mail order, just that doesn't have aspartame in it.
But it's, I think it's slowly, people are getting educated about it.
alex jones
I mean, it was even in the film Shooter, where the guy makes the joke about I don't
know. If I walked up to you and hit you in the head with a hammer and brain damaged you and you lost 20 IQ points, you'd be pretty mad at me, wouldn't you?
But your loving government puts in your water that you breathe, goes through your skin, and you drink something that hurts you and your children.
And I know you don't care about yourself, and you've bought into the evil, so you're going to deny what I'm saying is true.
But at least for your children, check into what I'm saying.
Thousands of government university studies, on average a 20% IQ reduction.
I mean, you don't want to do that to yourself.
I mean, even if you're really stupid and already had a low IQ and drank a lot of fluoride so you're borderline retarded, please, please don't do it to your children.
I'm going to talk slow to them and I'm being serious.
There is a bad thing in the water.
The water you drink.
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The tap water.
alex jones
It is bad for you.
It was put there to make you stupid and easy to control, to fool you.
You have children, those little ones.
Don't Give them the tap water.
At the grocery store, the water for babies and children has had fluoride put in it.
By design, the studies By the scientist.
Clearly show fluoride is more deadly and causes greater per capita.
Let me use two big words.
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alex jones
Don't hurt your baby.
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alex jones
I get mad at you because you don't Listen!
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Please! Paul, would you like to talk to him the same way?
paul joseph watson
Well, yeah, you need to.
It's not even...
alex jones
That's too fast.
I'm not joking.
Slower. That's how politicians talk to us now.
Go ahead.
Talk to neocons and liberals.
paul joseph watson
Alex is correct.
Listen to Alex.
He is your friend.
Sodium fluoride, bad.
MSG, bad.
Organic, good.
But seriously, I saw the...
Saturday Night Entertainment, which was on the BBC.
Because obviously I don't watch it, but my parents came round and they do.
You know, they drink their fluoride.
And the Saturday Night Entertainment is literally, it's either children's birthday party level, or old people's senile home level, happy, clappy, karaoke sing-along entertainment.
And it's shocking.
To me, it was absolutely shocking, because I hadn't seen anything like that for years and years.
But it's aimed at people who are getting dumber, and the news is being dumbed down.
Everything on television is being dumbed down, to the point where it's almost like that film, what was it called by the guy who made...
alex jones
Idiocracy. Idiocracy, where you have things like...
paul joseph watson
You know, Ow My Balls and programs like that actually do exist now and they're being shown.
alex jones
Oh, that's nothing.
In that video, the guy in Fayetteville, Arkansas, asking police why there's a warrantless checkpoint, they go, he knows how to talk!
Take to jail!
Paul Watson, thanks for the great job you're doing at PrisonPlanet.com and also PrisonPlanet.tv.
We're going to bring Jonathan Ellen up right now.
But stay there, Paul.
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alex jones
And I don't care that it's our story without credit.
It's just interesting.
George Washington blog, great blog.
Advisor to Anthrax Investigations, his attack was false flag terror.
He reported that over a year ago on this show.
Of all places, Hustler published the transcript of the radio show.
You can laugh at it.
It's like the ninth largest magazine in the world.
We all know that the bioweapons expert who actually drafted the current bioweapons law, Francis Boyle, has said that he is convinced that the October 2000 attacks...
I'm gonna get him back on.
They killed five people, were perpetrated and covered by the criminal elements of the U.S. government.
The motive was to foment a police state by killing off and intimidating opposition to the post 9-11 legislations of the Patriot Act and later Military Commissions Act.
And you click on it, and it's after DowningStreet.org has the article, and it's Paul Watson's article, No, linking to us.
I don't care.
Fine, have fun.
Hey, in fact, if people want our news, you can just take our names off of it and use it.
I don't care.
As long as the information gets out to everybody, that's what matters, and that's what we're here for.
The problem is, is I've had cases where people take our stories and others say we took it from them.
It's kind of a reverse deal, so...
It's a little funny, but I'm glad that's out.
Speaking on the anthrax story, Paul, and then I'm gonna go to Jonathan Elinoff.
I mean, that's waking up the general public.
Even the fluoride heads here in the U.S. Well, yeah,
paul joseph watson
a lot of people in this country woke up to there being a wider agenda behind that after they murdered Dr. David Kelly, of which the evidence for his murder and his link to those bio-weapons programs was so It's obvious that it woke a lot of people up, as well as the fact that there have been dozens and dozens of top microbiologists around the world who have died in mysterious circumstances.
alex jones
Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds.
And now he dies in government hands, but the media buries that.
I mean, they murdered him, bottom line, folks.
98% chance.
What do you do when they're just such criminals?
All right, well, Paul, I know you're gearing up at PrisonPlanet.tv for the release of Fabled Enemies.
unidentified
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Can't hint for my listeners, really, the evening of the 31st, but I get back from Colorado that day, so I want to be able to coordinate that.
But in the evening, or guaranteed on September 1st, Fabled Enemies, the new film, The Anthrax Attacks, the Israeli connection, the Pakistani connection, how it all ties together, the shadow government running the attacks.
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And you get three months free signing up for a year.
Paul, thanks for the great work.
Take care.
unidentified
All right.
paul joseph watson
Thanks, Alex.
alex jones
You bet.
I apologize for having Ellen on hold the last ten minutes or so, but we got him on a bit late, and I wanted to keep Watson on for those other issues.
Bill will be with us for the rest of the hour.
Jonathan's one of the most prolific We Are Changers out there, just like Luke Rodowski.
He's got 500 and something members, I think he was telling me, last week.
And they're all over the place in Colorado taking action.
He's gotten all over the Denver Post and international media exposing provocateur plans at the events.
And what I've got him on today about is the secret camp, new developments there, the fact that the police lied and said it didn't exist and then were proven wrong.
But more importantly, we don't have a lot of time, but I've got this idea.
To not just have We Are Change, 500 members, and myself out there, but we need people covertly sitting back, videotaping provocateurs, videotaping the anarchist, following the anarchist home, and really exposing their government operatives.
We've done this before, but we can really have a big victory here.
Jonathan, what do you say?
unidentified
Absolutely. We've had meetings for like the past year planning for this.
Um, all of my members are prep ready.
They've gone through training for this.
Um, we have hidden cams, pen cameras, tie cameras, button cams, pinhole cams, you name it.
Uh, plus cameras on our back.
Uh, we have four cameras that are going to be hooked up to laptops streaming live on the, uh, internet on wearechangecolorado.org.
Also on the We Are Change Hub site.
Um, and we have teams that are set up.
We even give them walkie talkies, uh, because we're not sure if cell phones are going to be used.
alex jones
Stay there, stay there.
And the mere fact, I'm glad you guys are doing this, see great minds think alike, the mere fact that we're even announcing this, they may not launch false flags there.
We've already caught them in a bunch of other places and made mainstream news.
It's really hurting the criminal murderers of America.
The criminal murderers of America are going to be brought to justice.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
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How do the American people know that 9-11 wasn't staged, wasn't engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR?
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Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
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You know, Jonathan Elanoff is such a great guy.
We're going to have him back up for a full hour on Friday if he can do it when Burmese is sitting in.
We'll talk about everything that they're going to be doing out there at the DNC.
We are Change Colorado.
We have Wayne Madsen in the wings.
We double booked some guests.
We're going to let Jonathan go here in a few minutes.
But Jonathan, you've seen provocateuring.
You've seen the local anarchists wanting to stir up trouble.
You've stopped them.
Uh, you've gone out to a little FEMA camp.
I mean, you guys are really having a big effect, and I salute you.
unidentified
Thank you, yes.
We, uh, I went into the, uh, two of the core meetings out here of the groups, I think, that are going to be starting up most of the problems.
And, um, when I arrived, I had a hidden recorder, um, because there weren't many people, uh, videotape.
And, um, what was being discussed was property destruction, uh, roadblocks, uh, surrounding cars, Uh, disguising people's faces, uh, shields, basically a complete nightmare.
And, um, that was, uh, that was months ago when I first wrote an article up on Truth Alliance about, um, provocateuring at the DNC, and from there the entire Denver community just split, and it became open, which up until that point was, uh, quiet.
It was being kept secret.
It was being kept under wraps.
Um, and we broke that out and got people talking about it.
Educated them about provocateurs, handed out martial laws, educated people about Info Wars.
Tons of people found out who you were.
It just created this huge war, basically, in the activist community out here.
And we ended up getting a lot of members, and two of the groups basically broke up, but they're still going to be down there this Sunday, as a matter of fact, at the end of the Occupations Rally in Denver.
Which is the one we're really concerned about because they don't have a permit for it, the groups that are doing it.
They've been asked to stop.
They're continuing to do this demonstration.
They're going to continue marching on to the Pepsi Center, and this is before the DNC even starts.
And so we've got members that are going to be at our park with us, but most of our members want to be in the crowd videotaping and on the ground because they really, really, really think The stuff is not going to go down.
alex jones
And you've got all the details on your websites.
Give people the websites.
unidentified
Yes, we are ChangeColorado.org.
They can find out everything we're setting up for the DMC.
They can go there and sign up.
We need money.
We need help.
We need supplies.
We're trying to get signs.
We're trying to get big models set up.
And we also have all the information about the streaming video there.
And we also are going to be showing Truth Rising here in Denver the week of the DNC.
Tickets are on sale there as well.
So we're going to try to really, really have a large 9-11 Truth presence.
We're inviting everyone to come out and join us, stand with us.
I know Willie Nelson is going to be in town.
I know a lot of artists are going to be in town, Rage Against the Machine is here, Dead Prez.
And many of these people are truthers.
So they invite us to everybody.
We have no idea who's going to come.
We don't know who knows about what we're doing, but we know it's a large event here in Denver, and there's a lot of people here, and many of them are truthers.
alex jones
Well, I'm going to be there in an RV out at your park, and I'm going to be getting there Sunday afternoon, and we're going to talk to you again on Friday.
I'm going to have you on longer, but Jonathan, we'll talk to you then.
Thank you.
unidentified
Absolutely. No problem.
alex jones
You better take care.
Okay, going to Wayne Madsen now.
NSA security officer, we should just kill these people.
And I don't think Wayne Madsen makes things up.
And he's got a lot of good sources, put out a lot of good information in the past.
And he's saying he now has this information from a good source.
And not surprisingly, his name is on the list.
He didn't give out the entire list.
He said there were more on the list.
Wayne, what is going on?
wayne madsen
Well, this is a story I was covering for a couple of years now.
I discovered back in 2005 that there was a database maintained by NSA that had the code name, First Fruits.
alex jones
Your phone's really breaking up.
I want you to start over.
NSA database, First Fruits.
You obviously worked with the NSA before.
unidentified
Go ahead.
wayne madsen
Right, right.
It was called First Fruits and it was a database that Originally it was a database that contained newspaper articles written by individuals who were writing about NSA, signals intelligence, communications intelligence, but apparently it's expanded since 2005 to now include signals intelligence intercepts, wiretaps of journalists' phones to find out who their sources are, who they're talking to.
So this has become quite a Well, let's say hi to those listening.
alex jones
They're violating federal, international, common sense law.
You're enabling a criminal government, a criminal media to continue its activity.
And I don't care if the criminals above you say it's okay.
What you're doing is wrong.
Wayne Madsen, what do you want to say to those listening right now?
wayne madsen
Well, I think everyone should realize that journalists who have been investigative journalists have never had it easy in Washington.
As a matter of fact, Jack Anderson, there was a plot being discussed back during the Nixon White House by Gord Liddy.
They were talking about killing Jack Anderson, but I mean, you know, whether they were serious or not, who knows?
Liddy probably was.
But it looks like we're back to the future because I understand that there was a discussion when this database was first revealed in an article I wrote, No5, that someone in NSA security just glibly stated, why don't we just kill these guys?
And for those kinds of individuals to be working in an agency like that, I think is rather chilling, to say the least.
And yeah, I mean, I heard my name was in there, but also, you know, the usual people you could imagine are the usual suspects for them.
Cy Hirsch, Jim Bamford, Jim Risen, who is facing a grand jury investigation right now for leaking the information about the warrantless wiretaps being conducted by NSA and the FBI.
It's obvious the Bush administration doesn't want anything else.
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
You leak that they're committing crimes and then they criminally come after you for trying to stop crime.
wayne madsen
That's essentially what they're doing.
The database itself is illegal.
And they're trying to say that anyone who leaked that information has committed a national security offense.
I understand that the level of the investigation of the leak is being called That's high treason.
alex jones
Now, isn't it high treason to be spying illegally on the American people for political control, to block their free speech and First Amendment?
I mean, they are the tyrants.
They're the traitors.
They're the people destroying America.
And then, you know, look, all they can do is hire Crud now.
And they hire these bully boys.
I ran into them bad in Chantilly, covering Vilderberg.
And I mean, they would come right up and threaten you.
And I mean, these guys...
wayne madsen
Absolutely. Absolutely.
with a bug uh...
unidentified
the uh...
wayne madsen
other that the except i i i i I've always faced a lot of pressure in doing the kind of writing, you know, investigating that I do, but, uh, here's somebody saying, why don't we just kill these guys, uh, when in fact there have been many journalists killed by our side in Iraq and in Afghanistan and other places.
alex jones
Well, let's talk about that, but let me stop you, Wayne Madsen.
You've seen No Way Out with Kevin Costner, right?
wayne madsen
Oh, absolutely.
A long time ago.
alex jones
Remember when he's saying, who are these gentlemen?
And they're saying men formerly associated with special forces in the suits.
You know, like 45 years old, that is exactly what the guys in Virginia look like.
I mean, it was like out of Central casting.
wayne madsen
Well, I also remember the movie, there was a movie, I think it had Robert Redford in it, about the NSA, and there were some NSA agents going around killing people.
Then there was, of course, Enemy of the State, which was the same thing.
And having worked at NSA, I said, oh, come on, you know, having worked there, I know they don't have people that go around and kill people.
Well, let me just change that now, because from what I understand now, there are people, at least one individual who works there, who entertain the notion of killing.
the journalists who were on their database.
alex jones
Now, you don't make, I mean, again, when you're a very credible source, you've been reporting on these security issues since you got out of the NSA and consulting for others.
I mean, I'm all the time watching Capitol Hill videos, and there you are in the background, you know, with your notepad.
Why are they so mad at you?
I mean, obviously, Cy Hirsch, they want to know who in the White House knows, you know, and reported that Dick Cheney was planning to blow up Navy ships two months ago and blame it on Iran.
I mean, obviously, that's why they're so upset.
Right. And I know you don't want to give away your...
Mote, you know, your ways of doing things, but it's certainly not just going to the park and meeting with them like you did back in the 60s.
How are you guys still getting your information when you're constantly being followed?
wayne madsen
Well, now it's very, very difficult because of the technology that we have.
I have conversations with sources where we just, it's agreed, battery's out, which means the battery comes out of the cell phone.
When that happens, it can't be used for the transmission.
Uh, transmitting device, but also the GPS is disabled, so it can't be used as a tracking device.
So, you know, and yeah, the lengths to which I'm going now to meet with people are much different than what I, you know, the precautions I used to take.
I will stagger my travel.
And, you know, in the event that I'm being followed, which I have to assume is probably taking place.
alex jones
Well, we talked to Cy Hirsch a week and a half ago, and he said he's coming on when he breaks something big in early fall.
But he told us, I don't want to go into too much detail, he didn't say don't tell it, but the point is he says he's having to literally slither around and sneak around to meet his sources now, constantly being followed.
wayne madsen
I can empathize and sympathize with him because that's exactly what I have to do myself.
And obviously the people in the Bush administration are trying to find out who's talking about these illegal surveillance tactics and they'll go to no end.
I know one individual in the NSA who wrote a report that Saddam had no WMDs and they trumped up charges against him.
He's playing a classified document in his house, and he's serving a six-year prison term up in Lewisburg Federal Prison in Pennsylvania.
unidentified
The guy's innocent, but it doesn't matter.
wayne madsen
This is what they're prepared to do, to send a message to anyone who's thinking about disagreeing with this administration.
It's the most thuggish administration I've ever seen.
These guys make Richard Nixon look like Snow White.
alex jones
Well, it's come out in the mainstream media about one of the top generals got in the car with a two-star general investigating Abu Ghraib and said, basically, we're gonna get you, boy.
And, you know, he said at that time he realized that this was not a military, this was a mafia.
And the White House just brags that they don't just make donations to people's countries, they pay people off.
And pay leaders off.
And now I've learned that all over the country, they are paying off mayors and county commissioners and sheriffs and police chiefs With millions in cash apiece.
And I confirmed this back in the late 90s, but now it's widespread, Wayne.
I mean, these people aren't playing games, man.
This is a completely criminal, rogue government.
wayne madsen
Well, the other thing that I'm picking up also is the fact that with this surveillance technology, warrantless wiretaps, it's quite apparent that our members of Congress, one of the reasons they've been Extremely silent on impeachment and bringing this administration to justice is because they're being blackmailed.
Some of their phone calls have been listened in on.
Whispering campaigns have been launched by these people.
Obviously, these whispering campaigns are launched against those who are their political enemies as a way to neutralize them.
alex jones
Six months ago, it was reported that every member of the parliament is being spied on by the, quote, MI6 Queens branch.
Where you just have the military-industrial vested interest that is not just waging war on the people, but also the legitimate government.
wayne madsen
Absolutely. And for what I gather, there was a Bible in the NSA after the abuses of the 60s and 70s.
It's called the United States Signals Intelligence Directive 18. Use it 18. People can find it on the Internet.
There's excerpts.
It was classified, but there's excerpts.
But it basically says, it always said, look, this is what you can do, this is what you can't do, anytime you run across a U.S. person subject to NSA surveillance, you've got to minimize that, which means the name has to be removed.
Well, I get the impression from people I speak to, I'm not cleared anymore, I'm not there, I don't know, but I've talked to people who know that that U-SID-18 has basically been torn up and shredded.
There are no controls.
Uh, checks on, uh, on the surveillance, uh, being conducted by NSA.
And a lot of this happened under the, uh, regime of General Michael Hayden, who is now the CIA director.
So, because of what he did at NSA and his violations of the, uh, of the law, uh, he has been promoted to the CIA director.
So he's been rewarded quite nicely for what he did for this administration.
alex jones
Let's talk about the compartmentalization, which I know a lot of even the employees at NSA and National Reconnaissance Office and the 15 other big ones that we know of and now the private ones that they have go, you know, dial into the systems and spy and then shin that to higher-ups, you know, they're using contractors for that more and more.
I've seen some estimates that more than half is now private contractors gathering intelligence and making up intelligence that they then stovepipe in or cherry-pick in.
But the average person in NSA, let's say, has the job of listening to my phone calls, which we know they do, and listening to your phone calls, because they want to know who's calling.
I mean, do they know they're traitor criminals, or are they just trying to get their pension?
They're scared.
They've seen other people murdered.
wayne madsen
They're scared to death, because what has happened with these security departments and divisions within these intelligence agencies is that these security groups are acting like the Stasi.
In other words, those who are conducting the surveillance are also being surveilled.
So you've got a really East Germany type situation here.
Even if they say they don't want to do what they're doing, well, they dare not say anything or complain about it because they're going to find themselves subject to an investigation.
And it's not pretty when they get called.
throw all kinds of charges at you.
It's very similar to the scene in, uh, the first, uh, you know, the first, uh, Matrix movie where, uh, Neo's there and the guy's saying, well, you know, we know you help your landlady out with the trash and you pay your taxes, but we also know who you've been, you know, dealing with.
So, um, and this is what's going on.
And it's, uh, it's an, it's an incredibly, uh, um, um, morale lowering situation within these agencies for, uh, Well, that's where I was going next, but isn't that part of the method of the madness?
alex jones
that that'll run out the good people and they can roll in, you know, the hunchback gorillas?
wayne madsen
Yeah, yeah, many of the good people either run out or they've retired, you know, and they know, they see the abuses.
Even once they're out, they're afraid to talk because they know they could be sanctioned.
And these political U.S.
attorneys...
I have no problem with trumping up charges against dissidents and then I'll do some judge shopping and find a judge who will go along with whatever they plan to do.
alex jones
What's that movie, the true story about the East Germans spying on people and he stops doing it and they basically shell him?
And then, you know, kill some other people?
wayne madsen
Exactly! You know, I forget the name of that movie.
It's a very good movie, yeah, but it showed how East Germany was a total surveillance society.
And, at least in that case, they had a high-ranking person in the Stasi, you know, basically help out the dissidents.
And I think we have those people here, too, but...
We're in a very similar situation in East Germany when it comes to that type of thing.
alex jones
Just stay there, Wayne Madsen.
This is riveting, power-packed info.
Folks, they want to kill us.
Stay with us.
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Today, unlike any other in the long course of American history, a terrorist act of war against this country.
unidentified
The enemy struck America on September 11th.
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But who is the enemy?
unidentified
Bin Laden.
This is his M.O. We have to look to the Middle East.
We have to look to Osama Bin Laden.
Fabled Enemies is the first 9-11 film to take a close look at the terrorist ties to intelligence networks inside the United States.
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Some U.S. investigators believe that there are Israelis again very much engaged in spying in and on the U.S. Either you
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Rogue government is the only way to describe it.
Completely hijacked by foreign interests.
I have to say, Wayne Madsen, the Democrats, as Keith Olbermann said, are going to go along with every bit of this, cheerlead it.
Barack Obama.
I mean, do you see George Bush, mister, this would be much better if it was a dictatorship, leaving office?
And then what do you see happening with the election?
wayne madsen
I think they're going to...
I'm the one guy I'm worried about is Dick Cheney, of course, and what I'm concerned about is if the Democrats come in and there's this feeling like, well, we want to look to the future, let's not go over the past, and that means all these criminals are going to get away with, you know, literally with murder.
I think there's got to be something akin to a truth and reconciliation commission, more the truth and the reconciliation with these guys, because I do feel they've committed treason, and I think they should be I'm accountable.
So I think that we should try to resist efforts by the Democrats to try to say, well, we don't want to go over these old flaws and look at the past eight years.
I think it's absolutely necessary to look at the past eight years or otherwise the Obama administration is going to have a very tough four years ahead of it.
alex jones
Well, Wayne, living in Maryland, hanging around all these people, working with them, The ideologues, the gung-ho, I'm fighting for America, I've got to kill American citizens and spy on them and be evil to protect America from the godless cretins.
It doesn't seem there's as many of those now in the administration as there are just pirates, mercenaries, just guys that don't care.
I mean, what's it made up of with their core operatives?
wayne madsen
Well, I'll tell you what we see now.
We do see a mass exodus of the political appointees, especially in the Justice Department, because they're all trying to land a nice job.
They know their time is limited.
What that's doing in the Justice Department is that some of the career attorneys, the career prosecutors, are now getting some authority that they've not had since Bush came into town.
A little bit more of a movement there, like the prosecution of Ted Stevens, this cook from Alaska.
I'm not sure that would have happened deep within the Bush administration.
I think we see a little bit more of this movement now because the career guys are starting to become acting in these what normally would be political appointment jobs.
alex jones
And for those that don't know, Ted Stevens was just robbing and stealing in front of everyone.
He wasn't even hiding it.
He was, like, robbing the bank with the jewels dripping behind him.
I mean...
wayne madsen
Great. And the other thing is that Secretary of Defense Gates, I think, deserves some credit because he has basically fired the entire Air Force leadership, including suspending the Air Force Cyber Command, which I had reported Earlier this year was the alternate chain of command for Dick Cheney to start moving nuclear weapons around, including those six MOOCs he authorized the movement of out of North Dakota.
alex jones
So the evil, but more restrained, James Baker, George Shultz types are actually hacking up some neocon tentacles?
wayne madsen
Well, definitely Gates is.
I know Gates is basically, you know, old man Bush's guy within this administration.
alex jones
That's what I meant.
wayne madsen
To provide some adult supervision for the boy.
And Gates has put his own people now, at least people that were loyal to him, in charge of the Air Force.
So I think we can breathe a little bit easier about that alternate chain of command.
That doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
It's just had its wings clipped a bit.
alex jones
Wayne, I want to come back in a final segment with you and talk about WayneMadisonReport.com and what you're doing there.
your great material, how folks can get That's what I meant.
And also the DC Madam, some kind of closing chapters in that in the Carnaby situation.
Five minutes left with our guest.
Then we've got Professor Peter Del Scott on the Russia situation, government narcotics trafficking, the police state, death squads, secret camps.
He is quite a fount of knowledge.
We'll be talking to him.
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Wayne Madsen, Absolutely, and I wasn't the only one on the list.
wayne madsen
Certainly other names mentioned were Sy Hersh, Uh, Jim Bamford, uh, uh, Jim Risen of the New York Times, uh, uh, and this was 05. I have to assume that this list has been, uh, added to, uh, especially with people, probably people like Ron Suskin,
who spoke about the, uh, you know, Cheney is out now, and, uh, people like Tom Ricks, uh, all those people who had sources, uh, about how, uh, you know, how, how foolish, uh, this administration was with Iraq and how foolish they Maybe soon with Iran and these other issues.
alex jones
What do you think of their little Russian foray?
wayne madsen
Absolutely ridiculous.
I mean, here we have this regime in Georgia installed by George Soros, which has neocons all throughout this Georgian government.
And they talk about poking the Russian bear, and now they're upset because the bear used its claws to swipe them back.
I think it's incredible.
alex jones
Yeah, they ran up to a grizzly bear and jammed an ice pick in its rear end, and it just simply swatted them off, and they're whining and bellyaching.
It's just unbelievable.
The D.C. madam, Geraldo, set me back up for the show and then canceled me while I was about to go live.
They killed that.
I've had detectives calling me.
It's come out that her lawyer says that she said she wanted all her material to come out, and they said she was suicided.
She told me if she was ever suicided, it would be murder.
She told everybody this, she told you that, and then magically some crime reporter she never talked to says that she said she was.
In hindsight, what happened there?
wayne madsen
Well, I don't believe...
First of all, I know how much she was worried about her elderly mother who had a heart condition.
I just don't think she would have put her in a position having to find her body hanging there.
The other thing is where she was found hanging from, it was one of these cathedral-type roofs.
She wasn't tall enough to reach that center beam.
So obviously she would have had to have some assistance, and I believe she did have some assistance.
alex jones
And they did that even to be mean to her mother.
She told the condo guy, I'm paying six months ahead, I'll be out in a few years, I'm going to fight this, I'm going to write a big book.
And they're like, no, you're not.
I wish she'd have just let out all the names, and they wouldn't have killed her like Jennifer Flowers did, but she didn't, and they killed her dead in a hammer.
wayne madsen
Right, right.
But I think, you know, if there are some papers, I've spoken to her attorney also, But he needs to not wait with a book.
alex jones
He needs to release that right now.
wayne madsen
Well, I agree, but, you know, I guess it's one of those things where I'll try to struggle to stay afloat financially, but I think, I have been told that when it comes out, it's going to have some amazing revelations in it.
alex jones
Well, yeah, maybe after they're gone, but, you know, that's like jumping into the water with 50 bowling balls tied to your legs.
I mean, the guy is, he's got to let out the key info and then say a book's coming out later.
I mean, I know you know that.
I don't think these people realize, I mean, his client's been murdered.
Do they realize how dangerous this is?
wayne madsen
I, you know, I absolutely, I'm just sitting on the wire now.
Well, Congresswoman Stephanie Tubbs Jones from Ohio did so much in trying to get to the bottom of the election fraud in 2004, and her state has now suffered an aneurysm, and she's in critical condition in a Cleveland hospital.
So, you know, the police said they stopped her because she was driving erratically.
So you've got to wonder about these kinds of things in this kind of society.
alex jones
And Carnaby, where the police gun him down in broad daylight.
wayne madsen
Exactly, and that one's not over by any stretch, so there's a lot more, I think, that's going to come out on that one.
alex jones
Well, Wayne Madsen, I want to talk to you again in the near future at TheWayneMadsenReport.com.
WayneMadsenReport.com.
Thank you so much, sir.
wayne madsen
Good to be with you.
alex jones
You bet.
We'll be right back with Peter Del Scott.
Stay with us.
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