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The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is the highest degree odious, and is the foundation of all totalitarian governments, whether Nazi or Communist.
And then he gets into the concentration camps for American citizens that are mainstream, declassified, the secret arrest, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.
It is not rumor.
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And the Democrats have now been in office for over a year and a half.
They are actually intensifying all these powers.
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They are giving aid and comfort to the enemy of the Republic, George Bush and his criminal cohorts.
They have passed the warrantless spying against the American people.
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This is why I'm nonpartisan.
When I first woke up politically, I was a libertarian-style Republican until I figured out they were as bad or worse, depending on which administration.
We just had Ted Nugent on.
He means well, but he loves the police state on one hand and then hates it on the other, supporting the phony drug war, which is sad.
And then you have the left that loves liberty on one hand but then tries to take it away on the other on so many other issues.
We have to get a culture of liberty back.
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We're very honored for the next 15 minutes to be joined by the Congressman, Dan Hamburg, because a lot has happened in the last five months since he was with us, and I was amazed at his depth and breadth of knowledge, and wish he was still in the Congress.
You know, we love people that support liberty and freedom and understand what's happening, whether it's Dennis Kucinich or Ron Paul.
To us, it's non-partisan.
It's an issue of not going into total martial law.
Now the economy's imploding by design.
The dollar's being annihilated by design.
We're on the verge of attacking Iran or supporting an attack against Iran.
The White House has come out and said, make no mistake, we support Israel attacking Iran today.
And so joining us for the next 50 minutes is Dan Hamburg.
Your comments on the left-right paradigm, sir, it paralyzes us, in my opinion, as the elite co-ops, both the left and the right, and its agenda moves forward.
Your response to the left-right paradigm, and do you agree that it's hamstringing us or bogging us down in the muck?
Well, I think one thing that's happening is that the left and the right are finding the places where they meet.
Places where they share a profound disillusionment with the way the government is being run.
And that's why you see people, like yesterday, I was watching a clip of these hearings that John Conyers has convened, you know, at Dennis Kucinich's request, and I was glad to see Bob Barr.
You know, sitting right next to Elizabeth Holtzman and Bruce Fine, who's known as a conservative constitutional scholar, sitting there on that same table of witnesses.
And that was encouraging to me, that, you know, people as far on the right as Barr, who a lot of your listeners probably remember was a key figure in the Clinton impeachment, you know, sitting right next to a very liberal former Congresswoman,
Elizabeth Holtzman, And sharing the same idea, that idea being that if we, the people, don't stand up to this hollowing out of the values and the ideals that actually are the basis for the formation of this country, then we don't have much left.
And, you know, I'm encouraged that the right and the left can do that.
I totally share your chagrin at war, your disgust, your anger.
I feel the same way at what we've seen out of the Democrats over the last year and a half.
I saw a little clip this morning on Free Speech TV of Nancy Pelosi.
She was on this TV program called The View.
That's a very popular show.
And one of the women on The View said to Pelosi, you know, what is going on?
We're a year and a half into your regime of leading the House.
Nothing's been done to stop George I just think that things are getting to the boiling point here, where people are extremely upset,
I could see the possibility, though, that if Obama were to win the presidency and become president and were to continue to govern the country in a very similar mode to what we've been seeing over the past years, 30 years, that people, you know, may finally reach that point at which they say, hey, this whole thing is just not working.
We have Congress with a 9% approval rating, the lowest it's ever been.
That shows the people know the system is broken, and they think because they can put a brown face up there that that'll somehow fool people that it's a change.
The population could care less what color he is.
They want real change, and they're now starting to figure out, him voting for the warrantless spying, now saying he's for other military actions, that I do see the left faster than the right's woken up to Bush, becoming horrified.
Well, you know, one thing, Paul Craig Roberts, I'm sure you're familiar with the stuff that he writes.
You know, he's the guy who was an assistant treasury secretary under Reagan.
He was associate editor of the Wall Street Journal.
So there's a guy with plenty of conservative credentials.
And Paul Craig Roberts says You know what is really going to hit the fan about two years into Obama's first term when people realize that everything's the same.
That nothing's really changing except maybe interest rates will be raised because the United States is going broke and it's got to figure out a way to attract more foreign capital to keep this whole thing from just falling over.
The other thing, though, before we get to November of this year, is what are the neocons going to do?
And I wrote an article with Louis Seiler that was published pretty broadly in August.
No, wait a minute.
I guess it was in June, in which we laid out our belief that the neocons are not going to hand the keys to the car over to Barack Obama or anyone else who presents the slightest threat to them.
And we were raising the alarm.
That there could be, uh, there certainly could be an attack on Iran, uh, initiated by Israel, or initiated, you know, by a false flag attack, or whatever.
And also, we threw up an associate of ours, uh, Wayne Mattson, we began looking at what was going on, particularly at the port of Houston, and, uh, Carnaby.
high-ranking CIA agent, Carnaby, and trying to figure out what the hell was going on down there and what the reason was that a couple of Houston cops shot a CIA operative whose only crime seemed to be that he knew too much.
So, you know, there's two big things out there that I'm particularly concerned about.
One is the possibility of an expanded war in the Middle East, And the other is the possibility of a false flag attack, which really, you know, we know that the only polling data that looks good for John McCain is that which has to do with national security.
In every other category, you know, he's way, way down below Obama.
So, you know, his own guy, Charlie Black, said it.
He said, you know, the only thing, you know, it would really help our campaign if there was Another 9-11 between now and election day.
And I think he's right.
I do think they need something that extreme in order to ensure that John McCain is the next president and thereby ensure that their current program will not be interrupted.
And this is a very real threat when we have Gary Hart coming out And writing letters to Ahmadinejad of Iran saying, our government stages terror attacks.
Don't think for a minute that because 80 plus percent of Americans are against a war that we won't stage something.
And then we went and interviewed him.
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It's in my film, Truth Rising.
And said, you said the government stages events.
And he said, yes, the government may stage events.
And then Zbigniew Brzezinski went before the Senate, as you know, last year and said the same thing.
And then we have all these Republican memos coming out and saying it.
It's almost like it's an open secret now.
And I'll never forget in 2002 when there was a 9-11 investigation starting in Congress.
So they created the 9-11 whitewash commission to overshadow it and preempt it.
And Cheney on, it was meet the press or face the nation.
I've got the clip around here somewhere.
He says, well, there better not be an investigation of 9-11.
That will frustrate us in fighting terror, and then it will assure a nuclear attack, and then he made this threatening look.
Well, then, you know, when he says stuff like that, I start wondering about the, uh, you know, the disappearance of the six nuclear bombs that were flown from, you know, the air base in North Dakota down to Louisiana.
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And I want to go back to now, five months later, the article you wrote with just all the facts and links to the government admissions to this huge system of oppression that's being built.
And now I guess they're preparing to hand off the Democrats, but you're saying that may not even happen.
You know, my guess is that Dick Cheney and his little cabal will not...
go down without a fight.
I mean, I think there's a struggle going on within the administration.
I think that Bob Gates is on one side of it.
I think Cheney's on the other side of it.
And, of course, there's lots of other underlings on both sides.
But I think that both the Minot Air Force Base transfer of cruise missiles down to Louisiana, down to Barksdale, which is the staging base.
Yes. That national
intelligence estimate said that in fact Iran had seriously curtailed, if not stopped, their efforts in 2003 at that.
And then a third thing, this whole thing with Carnaby being murdered by the Houston police because it seemed like he simply knew too much about the security lapses that were happening at the Port of Houston, and that there were officers down there as part of the Joint Terrorism Task Force, which is the FBI and the CIA, Down doing security to the Port of Houston, there were agents there who were saying, why aren't we tightening security here?
Why on this 25 mile channel, which is one of the most explosive places on planet Earth, and one of the most easily accessed, I think it's the port into which more foreign goods come than any other port in the United States.
They say that the biggest man-made disaster in U.S. history, as far as material, was back in the 40s when that ammonium nitrate ship blew up down there.
And these agents down there, I mean, again, according to Matt, they're saying, why is there no security here?
And, you know, you start to wonder, well, why was there no security at the World Trade Center?
Why did all those squadrons of naval planes stay on the tarmac when Four planes were hijacked on the eastern seaboard of the United States on November 11th.
In June, in June, Cheney took the shoot-down power that the military had as a default since 57 and he took that power unto himself in order to stand down.
Well, Cheney is probably the most powerful and certainly one of the most malevolent creatures on the planet today.
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And then, of course, there's the whole issue, which we haven't really gotten into yet, which is what that February article that Louis Seiler and I wrote was about, which is that the United States is very likely, in its current form, in a continuity of government mode, which means that there is only one brand that the checks and balances have effectively been tossed aside.
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National Congressman.
And he's one of the good guys.
You know, I scream and yell about this all day.
PDD 51, amongst other things, the President has declared a unitary executive, saying that the other branches of government are not co-equal.
Now, that is even a more modern view.
They were co-equal.
You read that the Founding Fathers pretty much unanimously said there were debates about this, the Federalists, the Anti-Federalists.
The only person that wanted the President to have more power than anybody was Alexander Hamilton, and he wanted him to be a king.
But everybody else, and the federal court rulings, and how our government works, is the Congress, because you have more members there, and they represent their local districts.
It has the most power.
It passes the laws, and then the president executes those.
He is literally a gopher.
Okay, and then you have the courts that referee and decide if what the Congress is doing is constitutional.
And then the president is given power by nominating members to the court.
So it's all about separation of powers.
But have you really read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers and the debates of the time?
The Congress, because it was more separated, and it would be harder to get a dictatorship in the Congress, because they set powerful men against each other, and powerful interests against each other.
It was an ingenious system.
But it had faults, because the human condition has faults.
It has now been bought up by special interests and decadence and ignorance and blackmail.
And the Congresswoman can, of course, speak to that being up there on the hill.
I want to go to your phone calls, but Daniel, what I'm going to do is I'm going to give you the floor for about six, seven minutes to get into your article of five months ago and what it covered and the fact that the Homeland Security...
I mean, then it was just a member of the Homeland Security Board and the chairman had asked for it.
Now they've been told no by the White House, but just the cover sheet of PDD 51 that Congress isn't allowed to see, the Homeland Security Committee, highest level security clearance, They're not allowed to see that, but the cover sheet says the President is basically God for any reason.
So, you've got the floor.
I'm not going to interrupt you.
I want you to cover whatever you think is most important.
Well, you know, just taking off from what you're saying here, originally it was Peter DeFazio who was simply a member of the Homeland Security Committee of the House.
and when he wasn't allowed to read what I've seen called the addenda to this presidential national security, I think it's NSPD 51, National Security Presidential Directive 51.
And when DeFazio realized that he was being denied access to these documents, he went to Benny Thompson, who was the chair of the Homeland Security Committee, and Thompson was rebuffed the same way.
It was interesting to read also that many prominent senators, including Tom Daschle, who at the time was the majority leader of the Senate, Senate. Robert Byrd, the most senior Democrat in the Senate, and many other high-ranking members of Congress were denied access.
Now, when the President issues a directive, as he did in 2007 with this one, and then refuses to allow Congress to see the conditions under which they are being governed and the country is being governed, you know that something sinks to high
What Bush had done prior to NSPD 51, as I said, that came in in 2000, that was issued by Bush in 2007.
What a lot of people don't realize is that since 9/11, when Bush issued Military Order No.
1, he basically took control of the country at that point a state of emergency was declared on I believe it was September 14, 2001.
That state of emergency was continued every year since then all the way up until 2007 when I believe based on the research that that I've done and that I've done with Mr.
Seiler that NSPD 51 only gave the President, any shred of power he didn't have under the previous Declaration of National Emergency is now taking them on through NSPD 51. And that's why they won't allow any members of Congress to even see what these documents entail.
So basically we're in, I believe, a state of emergency under a continuity of government scenario.
And if people think that's too preposterous, I'd like to Uh...
Nixon having to cede power because of his violations of law.
And you remember what Nixon said when he was interviewed a couple years later by David Frost, which was that if the president does it, it is therefore legal.
Well, that's not the way the United States of America is supposed to work.
That's not in our Constitution.
But Rumsfeld and Cheney got together in the Ford administration, where Cheney was the...
Cheney was chief of staff to Gerald Ford.
Rumsfeld at that point was the youngest Secretary of Defense in the country's history.
Later, during the administration of George W. Bush, he became the oldest Secretary of Defense in history.
But anyway, when these two guys got together, their purpose was to figure out how to install an all-powerful executive and all the trimmings that go with it.
And what are the trimmings that go with it?
Things like torture, rendition, warrantless wiretapping, surveillance of others.
Okay. Which
said in their document dated in 2000 that what the people of the United States would need was another Pearl Harbor in order to wake them up to the realities of the current world situation and that the United States would not be able to maintain its preeminent position in the global power structure unless there was another Pearl Harbor type event that galvanized them Well,
of things that would have to happen.
And those are exactly the things we've seen happen.
We've seen this invasion of the Middle East.
We've seen the invasion of Afghanistan.
We've seen rendition, torture, et cetera, et cetera.
The whole national security state really taking total predominance.
Well, I think that, you know, when you talk about the detention camps, what the detention camps are really for, and you hear people like Dan Ellsberg say, They'd be glad to stick immigrants in these camps, but they're also very useful to detain people who are not, you know, going along with the program.
The original Rex 84 plan said they would use immigrants' detention as the cover to institutionalize and shell Uh, the mass arrest of the public, and then, and then now they even said in the Houston Chronicle, when they reported on it two years ago, uh, that it was for immigrants and dissenters.
Yeah, and how interesting that during the Iran-Contra hearing that was chaired by Senator Inouye, that Congressman Jack Brooks of Texas tried to dig into Oliver North's Rex 84, and Inouye quickly shushed him, and said, that is not something we can discuss in open session.
This is the nation being absorbed by the privately owned military industrial complex and now you have the big defense contractors with intelligence subdivisions Uh, right there, total conflict of interest, and they're saying, the people are the enemy, the people are the terrorists, we've got to spy and arrest and build more prisons.
Right, it makes work for them, it makes profit for them to, I mean, the more of us they can put into their database, the more they can bill us for in the form of these, these contracts.
I mean, companies like Science Applications International, Booz Allen Hamilton, CACI International, these are huge contractors with the United government to do the work that used to be done by people who were at least accountable to us because they worked for the government.
Yeah, and if Congress refuses to do a certain thing like this, remember when John Poindexter came out with his Total Information Awareness Program, and, you know, William Sapphire of the New York Times got all upset and said, you know, we can't have 300 billion Americans with dossiers with every purchase they make and every magazine subscription.
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you know they've they've got everything they need to go on any billion but it's completely criminal and then i have a cynical national debate about can't we listen to a phone call from bin laden to america when it has nothing to do with that it's everything down but it george carlin day you know he said that the american educational uh...
Well, we know why they've preemptively built their police state, their control grid, because they plan to completely destroy the middle class and transfer all the wealth into private offshore corporations.
And they inflated the dollar.
They bought real assets with it.
Now they're going to leave us holding the bag and the debt.
Well, it's been said by economists, this isn't a bubble, this is a tumor.
Congressman, I'll tell you this, I have a feeling that people are waking up, I have the hard cold facts and the numbers on that, so it's kind of a duality, or the best of times, worst of times.
At the same time, I have a deep foreboding, just from my intellectual analysis of what's happening, it appears That the elite is intending just to go to the wall.
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And I think we're going into something that's going to mix Joe Stalin and Hitler.
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And, um, uh, I would like to, they say that, uh, the police and army, you know, will stand by the citizens, um, and I believe, uh, in World War I, the veterans were, uh, awarded extra pay for combat, I believe.
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And they boycotted, walked on the White House, and the Army was sent in with tear gas and tanks and ran them off.
And it was the same, you know, they're fighting for their rights.
The bonus marchers and two young World War I vets, officers, did the attack and were promoted for it against their own soldiers who were promised the pay, and your government will cheat you.
It enjoys it.
Uh, and now we're being told General Motors, uh, retirees are not going to get their retirement.
Well, you know, I think governments will go to almost any extent in order to perpetuate themselves.
And, you know, as to whether you would have police or military units actually going against commanding officers and refusing to, you know, say in an urban riot control situation, fire on their own citizens, it makes me think back to Tiananmen Square.
Now, you know, I know that was in China, not in the land of the free, but in that case what they did was they, you know, they brought these guys in from a faraway province, you know, far away from Beijing, and they told them that they were
facing gangs of violent hoodlums, and they stuffed them full of methadrine and, you know, other kinds of drugs to get them in the mood, and then they set them loose on people, and you're damn right they fired their guns and, you know, used their bayonets and whatever they wanted to use.
And I think that it doesn't function that much different, at least in the kind of democracy we have now in this country.
I don't see a situation where the military will refuse to do what their commanding officers say, at least not on a, I don't think that's, We have over 100 million armed Americans and a 1% fight back.
That's 1 million lone wolf resistors and no army can stand against that, Congressman.
And I used to, you know, since I am, you know, sort of on the left and a liberal, I used to be much more into control of firearms than Than I am now because I don't you know stay there exactly all the liberals.
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During a break earlier, I looked at several different clips of Jesse Ventura yesterday on the Howard Stern Show, and Stern, instead of making fun of him, basically agreed on inside job to a certain extent.
But Ventura was more fiery than he's ever been.
You know, we woke Ventura up at the inside job a year and a half ago.
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I was talking to him just, what was it, last Thursday at his home about the whole New World Order situation.
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Yeah, I mean, it isn't that a lot of liberals, well-meaningly, thought, oh my God, guns are violent, they're bad, or they didn't grope around them.
They thought, we've got to control these, it's causing all these killings.
No, it's that America is a violent, piratical, cutthroat nation of criminals and explorers and slaves.
And native wars.
And so we're just violent, folks.
That's the way it is.
And so our guns get taken.
We just got a bunch of Nazis over us, killing us.
And that's why you can't get rid of the guns.
Because then only the crooks are gonna have them.
And everybody I know on the left, I mean, it doesn't matter if it's the Sheen family.
You think of them as liberal?
Uh-uh.
Or, you know, somebody like Willie Nelson.
Or, I mean, they believe in the Second Amendment.
Now more than ever, because people see that That you don't want the government with a monopoly of force.
Mr. Hamburg, you brought up an interesting point there, Congressman.
You know, I was saying my own evolution from someone who really wanted very strict control of guns, and now I really do question that.
But I think a lot of...
You know, you were talking about the violence of the society.
A lot of it comes from the top.
If the federal government is perpetrating violence, I think that creates an idea in the minds of citizens that violence is the way you get things done.
I mean, folks, you think I like gangbangers on the streets with guns when I have children?
No. Heck no.
But I know that if they take my guns here, I'll end up being like New York or Chicago with the highest crime rates, because then both criminal government and street criminals all flock there.
Just an amazing interview.
I wanted to go to Belleon and Harry and Chris, but we just don't have time with the Congressman.
We got about two minutes left, sir.
Plug your website, and in two minutes, anything else you want to add?
Yeah, well, www.voiceoftheenvironment.org, and, you know, I just want to Thank you, Alex, for having this program and for allowing me to be on it.
People go to our website.
They can see a number of articles that Lewis Seiler and I have co-authored.
The most recent was on this idea of the United States being in a state of emergency in reality because of these emergency documents and the NSPD 51, but also because we have Yeah, and women who are responsible for guiding this country over the next six months.
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All right, that said, we're gonna go ahead now and go to St. John Hunt, who I appreciate us joining the broadcast.
I know we have loaded phone lines from the previous guests.
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St. John, your book is so important, I couldn't put it down.
People need, because I got an advance copy online months ago, people need to get a copy.
Did you have a good response when you were on last week?
You know, Alex, I wanted to preface my time on your show with thanking not only you, but your very, very wide audience and all the people that responded so positively to my book.
I've gotten so many emails, and I will communicate with people.
They buy the book, and then I personally respond to every single email, notification of payment, and I personally respond to every person that buys the book, and I say, please give me some feedback on it.
Tell me what you think.
If you have any questions, I'd be more than happy to personally respond to each and every one of you.
I've spent a lot of time responding to a large number of your audience, and everybody has just been nothing but positive feedback from the book.
People can't put it down.
They love the book.
They love the story, although it's a very tragic story, but it's a very personal story.
It's a very important story, as you said, and I've just been having a great time responding to all the people that have Thank you very much.
support and have been about the book and uh...
actually uh...
adjusted a big favor to your to your listening audience i've lowered the price of the book uh...
down to five ninety nine for this day only and uh...
uh... my just uh...
you know your your audience is very a very intelligent uh...
group of people uh...
they're very there their questions are profound their interest is is uh...
serious they're dedicated uh...
Fans of yours, Alex, and I just don't want to ever downplay how important you are as a figure in the media and for the continuing fight of freedom and patriotism in this country.
That's what we're here for, is I have countless wonderful activists and people on, whether it's their website and their news stories or a film or a book.
I know you got approached by A lot of big publishers, they got scared of it.
We've had Paul Craig Roberts on, and you know, he's even had trouble getting stuff published.
He's a former Wall Street Journal editor of its anti-establishment.
Another Roberts, Colonel Craig Roberts, who had a bunch of best-selling books.
But as soon as he came out with the JFK book, the biggest publishers in New York said, we know it'd be a hit, but we're not going to put this out.
I mean, there is control.
And that's what we do here is we try to bring you the loose change when nobody heard of it first here on this show.
We try to bring things like your new book that's so important to be read.
I mean, we try to bring people things that are being suppressed.
That's what this radio show is all about.
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Give people your website so they can get the book.
It's fully realized, it's fully entertaining, and it's just an important document, an important DVD, and the information is just very professionally approached and professionally disseminated in a way that the average layman is not overwhelmed with one fact after another, but is drawn into the story.
Well, you know, it's really not that hard to understand what we have going on here.
The seeds were planted way back In the late 50s, I would say, and early 60s, one of the first acts of the shadow government was to assassinate President John Fitzgerald Kennedy in November of 1963.
This was what I would consider the first act in since then a long series of illegal, immoral, and almost fascist acts to wrest control Of course.
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Your father, talking to you, correct me if I'm wrong, E. Howard Hunt, really thought he was defending America from the leftists and the communists, never knowing that that was controlled by the big banks as well, and he was in the false left-right paradigm.
Before he died, was he worried about the police state?
Did he see the loss of liberty?
What was happening?
Or was he still caught up in that and went rah-rah George Bush?
Or today, if he could say, see my films, or if somebody could talk to him and explain how he was compartmentalized in the larger picture, do you think he would have been anti-New World Order, or do you think he would have still thrown his lot in with the system?
Well, that's a very interesting question, and of course, I'll never know the definitive answer for that.
But in my opinion, I think my father first woke up from his This is what I would call his state of comatose blind faith in his government because we have to realize that he was raised in a very different time and era when we just,
you know, he served in World War II and, you know, it was a different kind of society back then.
But he first woke up from his state of comatose blind faith when he was carrying out the orders of President Richard Nixon and was part of the secret plumbers team that worked for the White House.
Now, when he was left holding a bag, so to speak, he served 33 and a half months of his life in federal penitentiary, and I think that was the first time that he really realized that these men We're acting for their own self-interest, and that was a very harsh moment, a very harsh reality that he had to face.
But I think now, if he were still alive, I would be the one to try to get him to watch Truth Rising or Endgame, and I think in seeing those Those kind of movies and listening to the kind of work that you're involved in, Alex, I think that as an educated person, how could he not?
Absolutely. And I mean, the evidence is they blew your mother up when she was going around getting the money to take care of all of Nixon's men coming into Chicago there in the Midway Airport.
I mean, do you think that's why he leaked the information to you, or was it more he was proud of what he did to the Kennedys?
I don't know if I can say he was proud of his involvement in the assassination of President Kennedy, because he never really fully told me the true story.
uh... the complete story uh...
and that was what i meant to say but um...
i think uh...
toward the end of his life he he uh...
there was a certain amount of uh...
i'm gonna get even with those bastards excuse my language there uh...
it was a very tragic moment not only for this nation but uh...
but for but for us as uh...
as his sons and daughters I think we all have come to a point in our lives now where we are starting to wake up to what's really going on.
And what's important here is that instead of spending $20 at McDonald's or something like that, take that money, buy your film, buy Truth Rising, buy a copy of my book, and just give it a chance.
Because it's important now more than ever that we come to a fully uh...
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that people like yourself and uh...
and myself there are better trying to get these these troops out that have been turned down by the mainstream media after all my book uh...
my book made its way around the uh...
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60 Minutes flew me down to San Francisco for an extensive set of interviews where they went through all my documentation, all my father's handwritten memos.
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And one of the top executive producers of 60 Minutes called me and said, well, we can't run with the story because we've been told from at the very top level that this is not going to see the light of day.
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Hey, Alex and John.
Thank you for taking my call.
I know what your last guest said in regards to the possibilities of Israel and Iran having conflict.
I wanted to kind of bring it back more to homeland concerns as far as the avian flu vaccines that are probably going to be making their way to our shores very shortly.
Just like SARS, but it is dangerous because they could release one that did get into humans, and the government's done chemical and biological and radiological tests that have killed citizens thousands of times, so they're the number one terrorist.
They launched the anthrax attack, and they could throw a curveball in, like a bio-attack, a chemical attack.
I got a Newsmax propaganda story here today saying U.S. intel Iran plans nuclear strike on U.S. Just like they said about Iraq.
This just out today, I mean, they are really saber-rattling and putting out this info.
St. John?
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Yeah, I know it's definitely not something to take lightly, for sure, but I'm looking at the overall, what the overall goal, and in the Bilderberg meeting, apparently, the agenda, they weren't all keen on getting into a battle with Iran because of the way the oil price has been squeezing the American people and the angst that it's creating as well.
Now, my concern is you look at the overall, what the result of a pandemic would be fits their agenda completely, because you get compliance from the people, stay in your houses, take these vaccines, These kinds of things, right?
And they can shore up the borders real quick, too.
So my question will be, I'll leave it at this, is what can Canadians do, like me, that I'm on the border, I'm looking over, I can see farms, American farms here.
When and if martial law does get put into place, what would Americans need from Canadians as support?
You just better get the word out to everybody in your area that the government's gone bad, that it's rogue, and any Americans that they're after that make it across, you've got to take care of them.
You know, assess for yourself whether they're good people or not.
There's always some bad ones mixed in.
And that's what the globalists, you know, they do some good, but then they do more bad.
It's sophisticated.
It's not just...
It's not like they're against Iran, so Iran's good.
No, Iran's corrupt as well.
It's the good, the bad, and the ugly we're talking about.
Well, I'd like to add that, you know, the old saying, the pen is mightier than the sword, and that in many cases is true, but don't forget about the sword.
So I might suggest to anybody that's that's worried about martial law is uh...
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the best advice you can get ladies and gentlemen thank you chris jim in russia you're on the air with saint john hunt yeah hi alex can you hear me yes sir hello okay uh...
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Couple things.
Thank you, Alex, for all that you do, man.
You and Dr. Stan, I listen to you guys basically a few hours a day.
St. John, thanks for coming out with the information about what your dad did.
I guess the big question for me is, is there any point in going back to the States and trying to take this door-to-door to the American people, or is it too late?
I mean, you hear Jesse kind of saying, He thinks it's too late.
You know, we can inform people, or we can start organizing people.
When I was in my late teens, early twenties, I was an organizer in South Florida, Memphis, Tennessee, and the San Francisco Bay Area.
Is there a point to go back, or should we just try to, like, survive somewhere?
I would have to say that it's absolutely never too late.
Having that kind of thought mentality in your mind that, well, it's too late, so where do we go from here?
There's never going to be a place.
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so a lot of russians are aware of the new world order what they're up to what they've been up to in their country since the uh...
early nineteen hundreds and like that The question is, you know, is this the time to come back to the United States and fight the battle on the ground, door-to-door, there?
Or is it time to just, you know, find a place and bug out?
We need you to put it together in an article and to email it to Aaron at Infowars.com and have just the facts, ma'am, and we will post it on the Prison Planet message board.
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St. John Hunt, thanks again for making this information public in my lifetime.
I just wanted to ask, I've never actually seen a good picture of your father.
Was he 6 feet or so, slim, wiry build, prematurely gray?
Actually, he was about 5'9", kind of stocky, barrel-chested.
He was a very handsome man, and he was handsome when he was older, too.
If you go to my book, I have quite a few personal family photographs.
You can see seven or eight pictures of our family and my dad at different times in his career when he was, you know, conducting his black op missions around the world.
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I thought that might have been him I met playing good cop at the Irving shooting range, but it must have been somebody else.
I would like to point out that the military guy that was Pretending to be Oswald, who didn't really look that much like him, but vaguely.
It was young enough that he might still be alive.
I would love to find out who that guy was and somebody talk to him.
Okay, I'm going right into this Jesse Ventura interview.
These are some cuts out of an hour-long Howard Stern interview.
We're airing this to analyze it and critique what Stern's saying.
He's come a long way, and this is pretty exciting because Howard Stern is a cultural phenomenon.
Here it is, a barn burner.
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Did the Vietnam War not mean that?
I mean, in retrospect.
Totally. Yeah.
And Iraq is the same sort of situation.
Absolutely. All of it.
Well, I was teaching at Harvard in 2004 when McNamara come through.
Right. Well, they've now admitted the Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened.
Right. Well, that's the catalyst that got us in the war.
They said the North Vietnamese fired at two of our ships.
It's a declaration of war.
So that the entire war was based upon that lie.
So you would take us right out of Iraq.
Absolutely. Would you run for president?
Uh, have you read my book, Howard?
Uh, no.
Okay, well, I suggest go read the epilogue, because what I did in the book is I wrote factual all the way to the epilogue, and then without telling the reader, I went to fiction.
And I make a fictitious run for the presidency, and I'm assassinated.
Because I believe in my heart, Howard, that if an independent like me had a shot to do it, And it looked like I was gonna win, someone would get you.
Do you worry about...
Does that bother you when you say about this country?
Not anymore.
It doesn't bother you.
I don't believe 9-11 anymore.
Wow. Yeah, you've said that.
Well, we've talked about that.
You've said that.
You say, I live in Mexico now.
I mean, do you enjoy living outside of the United States?
Yes, because it gives you a new perception of the United States.
It gives you one from the outside looking in as opposed to the inside looking out.
And I think if hypothetically, We could get everyone in this country to have that opportunity.
I think you'd see a change in the United States for the better.
We're arrogant.
We have an arrogance about us that needs to disappear.
Because you know what the most popular shirt way down in Mexico is with all the little kids?
What is it?
It's a picture of George Bush on a t-shirt and it says weapon of mass destruction.
Yeah, we've got a real shitty image around the world right now.
And right now the rest of the world is fearful that if they cross the United States, we'll attack them.
It's because of Iraq.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because, and that's why...
Afghanistan, everyone was with us.
Do you want to know why I hate Iraq so much?
Because they destroyed my belief in America.
My mother and father are both World War II veterans.
As I said, my brother and I are Vietnam veterans.
And I never believed that my country would line up our military at the border of another sovereign nation without being asked.
We would invade that nation, overthrow its government, and occupy it.
That's what the Nazis did.
That's what the Communists did.
Now we've done it.
Why do you think Bush did it?
Do you think just for oil?
Or do you think because he was pissed off that Saddam Hussein was, you know, hanging out with his father and going to war with him?
I think that it falls to, have you followed that thing and read about that thing in 92 during Bush 1?
There was a document in the think tank that they had, the Center for the American Experiment, I forget what they called it, New Cent, something or other named that.
Well, it was made up of Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, the whole cast of characters.
Same guys.
Same guys.
And in 92, they were posed to go out and gather information and come forward with recommendations on How do we make the United States the sole superpower of the world?
Wow. And their recommendations was one of them, controlling Middle Eastern oil.
Because China and India are becoming industrialized.
If you control Middle Eastern oil, you control them.
Because of the oil factor.
And by the way...
Now, wait.
Now, the part that gets to me is that at the end in their summation, they list all the things required, but then they say right there, It'll take many, many years to implement this, unless a Pearl Harbor type of event were to occur.
That would be in nine years later a Pearl Harbor, when you had Bill Clinton then.
The problem was they were Bush one, Clinton one then.
So there was an eight-year hiatus and then these jokers came in 2000 and a year later we had a Pearl Harbor type of event.
So I find that a little bit more than coincidental.
So are you one of those guys that advocates that Bush should be put on trial for this?
Not yet.
But I think that the problem I have, Howard, is I was a member of UDT 12 for three years and SEAL Team 1 for two.
Now, do you know what UDT means?
No. Underwater Demolition Team.
Go ahead.
In other words, I was trained by the best demo man this country has.
To blow things up?
Right. How could those buildings fall at the rate of...
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How could those buildings fall at the rate of gravity?
With no resistance?
They fell as fast as a billiard ball in a vacuum.
How could there be no resistance, Howard?
So you really feel the government?
Well, how did building 7 fall?
5 hours later implodes into its own footprint?
And I've talked this over with some of my teammates, and we all agree.
There had to be something that assisted all of that.