Jesse Ventura joins Alex Jones to dissect government overreach, alleging 9-11 was an inside job and comparing current U.S. policies to Nazi Germany while discussing his new book. The conversation expands with Bob Chapman detailing financial collapses at IndyMac and Bear Stearns, predicting hyperinflation and urging gold investments against a globalist New World Order. Listeners report martial law fears in Australia and email censorship in Sweden, leading to a conclusion that authoritarian tyranny is globally escalating, necessitating off-grid retreats and monetary independence before an inevitable depression strikes. [Automatically generated summary]
Yeah, there's no, you know, it was interesting the other day, I was watching on television up here, and one of the local stations, they have a segment called where you can ask a question, and the question was, how do we make a strong dollar again?
How do we get the dollar strong?
Because obviously the dollar has fallen through the floor.
I mean, there's half a dozen countries now that have a higher value or more than that than us.
And so they went to Hamlin University here in Minnesota, and they went to the head of economics and, oh, I forget his other title, but it was appropriate.
Please excuse me, I just got done working out, so if I'm breathing a little heavy, I just got off the elliptic machine.
But anyway, he listed, in order to bring the dollar to be strong again, it's the exact two things that I've been harping on for the last month and a half.
Number one, to make the dollar strong, as Professor said, is the debt.
We must do something about the $9 trillion-plus debt we owe throughout the world now.
And he said the number two thing that is driving the dollar to its weakness is the war in Iraq.
So the very two issues that are highest on my board are the very two issues that this expert said it would take to bring the dollar back, but apparently our country and most of the people in it aren't that worried about it.
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And we don't seem to be heading back towards it, so I thought it was a wake-up call for the lemmings here in the country that march off the cliff and don't look side to side, they just do it.
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New book out on the New York Times bestseller list.
Don't start the revolution without me.
He's with us for the rest of the hour.
Coming up at the bottom of the hour, we're going to do something we haven't done on the other two interviews with him.
We've been lucky enough to have.
And that's take some of your phone calls specifically to the Governor.
about his take on what's happening in our society at 1-800-259-9231.
Governor, I want to pick your brain about the war, the economy, the Fourth Amendment under attack, all these issues, but obviously you know what I'm going to ask first here, now that we're into the interview.
And I've learned to not trust the mainstream media.
Last week, I called you at home and you said, no, I did not tell NPR that I had committed to run.
I'll announce that next Monday or Tuesday.
Sure enough, the ABC headline said, Governor will run.
I went and listened to the interview.
You said, if I decide to run, here is why I will run.
Then ABC had to retract.
No, I guess it's accurate.
Everybody tells me I will tonight.
I guess it's kind of out of my hands.
I don't want to go off what the news is saying.
Other news is reporting that you're going to announce either way tonight on Larry King.
You wrote a book saying, don't start the revolution without me.
I'm sure you've decided it's now the eve of, or the day of, you making the announcement, the eve of the deadline, to be technical.
And I'm going to make the guess, and it's not a wild guess, in fact I'm going to predict, you're going to announce you're running for Senate.
And this is why you're going to announce you're running for Senate tonight on Larry King, because you love this country.
You saw him shoot down the Fourth Amendment last week.
You see us about to go to war with Iran that will further tank the economy.
You know we need your voice in the Senate, and you love this republic, and so you're going to serve the republic one more time, and you know you've already beaten the sorry excuse for a human being for governor that's running for Senate as well, and so you've been drafted by the American people, and we're not going to start the revolution without Oh, Alex, Alex, you might be premature.
Don't go that far.
for the Senate, Jesse Ventura, and we all know it, aren't you?
It will be a total personal decision, and my family will bear in it a great deal, because you cannot do one of those jobs without the support of your family.
And if my family's support is not there, I will not do it, because... Well, I'll give you one example.
I'm not going to subject my children to be attacked by the media again.
That weighs heavily on me, so what my children say to me is going to have a great bearing on the decision that I make.
I don't talk to them because they attacked my children when I was governor.
The story and the way it went down was I had left to go on the largest trade mission in U.S.
history to China.
I led a trade mission to China from Minnesota.
And none of the media here bothered to send anyone on the trade mission.
It was the June before the following fall's re-election.
And so none of them chose to go on the trade mission.
And here I'm doing something that will directly benefit every person eventually in the state of Minnesota.
Instead, they went out and trumped up a big story on my son.
There was a disgruntled employee that we fired who decided to get his 15 minutes of fame.
And he accused my son of underage drinking in the governor's residence.
Well, first of all, my son was 22.
So I find that a bit peculiar because nowhere in this country are you underage at 22.
Second of all, the media didn't bother to question this employee at all.
They didn't ask him the very simple question, Alex.
He went home every day at 5 o'clock.
How would he know what went on at midnight?
They ran with the story, they trashed my son completely, they put the CBS investigative eye team onto his friends to try to dig up anything they could on my son, and then the day I got back from the trade mission from China, the headlines in the paper were nothing to do with the trade mission, it had everything to do with accusing my son.
Well, if I did run, I would run because we have to get some type of hold and bring the attention to this deficit.
You notice in the presidential debates right now, they avoid the deficit like the plague, because They're equally responsible for it, both Democrats and Republicans.
They want to pretend it's not there.
They don't want to talk about it.
They don't want to tell the public that they've put our country so far in debt that if they were in the private sector, they'd be thrown in jail and run and WorldCom ring a bell.
And that's the one reason.
And then now the war, the pounding of the war drums.
I mean, we are now a first-strike nation.
9-11 changed our entire foreign policy.
We will now attack another country before they attack us.
Which we proved in Iraq, because Iraq never did a thing.
If you believe the government story on 9-11, there wasn't one Iraqi involved in it.
So why did we attack Iraq?
And so throughout the world today, many places view us as the people to fear.
You know, many countries feel that the United States is the one you've got to be afraid of, because if you cross the United States, the United States is not above attacking you.
And I think that's sad.
And I think that as the leader of the free world, you should not lead with a big stick.
I think diplomacy is much better.
You notice the Chinese, other than their internal strife, they're not going out and getting involved in any of these wars throughout the world.
Why?
Because they want to become the economic power of the world.
That's their focus and they're vast becoming it very quickly because we're so stupid and we're out getting involved in all these wars.
Studying history, every time, I mean, nine times out of ten, Napoleon, Hitler, it didn't matter who, the aggressor, the Nazis, they always, no matter how big and bad, they always, in the end, tend to lose.
But also, not just parallels with Rome, what about two hundred and thirty-something years ago, the parallels with the British Empire, never been defeated, and the first place they get beaten is here in the United States, fighting five to one against the ragtag rebels?
Well, that's the point that I've been trying to make, is that Barack Obama, for outward consumption, said he would try to end the war, but then the elites that are backing him put out press releases saying, don't worry, he's our boy, and then his foreign policy advisor and several others were at a big summit in Canada on globalism and so-called free trade.
And you know, trying to end NAFTA and GATT, and Barack Obama's people said, don't worry, he's only saying that for the public.
And that's why I'm telling people Barack Obama is a Trojan horse.
Well, like I've always maintained, Alex, you're not going to see change with a Democrat, you're not going to see change with a Republican.
The only way change happens in this country is to elect an independent, and this country won't do it.
You know, they're too entrenched with the two-party system, and it's too difficult to break through that, because it's very hard, because not only does the two-party system, the two-headed snake, control our government, but they also control all the rules, and it's very, very difficult to beat anybody when they can change the rules at halftime.
When we come back to the full audience, I want to ask you about Ron Paul and how he was winning delegates in some states and the Republicans would just come out and say, you know what, it doesn't count.
We're just going to ignore the process.
So I want to get your take on that and also any other subjects you want to cover.
We're also going to take some phone calls for you as well, Governor.
We're coming back into the main broadcast right now.
During the breaks, we're just for the internet audience, so we don't waste any of your precious time.
Here we go.
Governor Jesse Ventura is our guest.
He's got us all in suspense, spellbound here.
He'll be announcing tonight on Larry King Live whether he's going to run for the U.S.
Senate or not.
He's got almost a double-digit lead compared to what he even had when he first announced against the same individual that's running for Senate.
He was behind the fellow in the past.
He's now ahead of him.
And I think even with some of the chicanery with the voting machines, Governor Ventura would win by such a margin, and his views are so popular.
You know, Governor Ventura, I actually disagree with some of what you said here today.
You keep saying that we're in the minority.
We are in the majority with our views.
Every poll shows that.
It's just that I guess you're right that we're in the minority when it comes to people in the power structure, because they are 180 degrees in the other direction of what the people want or what the Constitution and Bill of Rights has to say.
Well, you know, when I started, and I really didn't take the plunge.
I simply asked questions that That to me have not been adequately answered.
Uh, you know, and I consider myself a demolition expert because I spent, you know, four years on active duty in the Navy as a member of the underwater demolition team.
I was trained by the best demolition men the United States has.
And every time I watch those buildings come down now over and over again, and I look at a building that's been demolitioned, they're identical.
You know, when you watch them fall, but yet, if you bring that up or state that, right away you're considered crazy.
And how dare you make a statement like that?
How dare you be so un-American?
How dare you?
And it goes on and on and on.
I'll tell you what, Alex.
You take the line for a minute.
I've got to run across to my desk because there's something I want to read on your show.
In the next segment, we're going to take a few of your calls, but they need to be for the Governor about the issues we're discussing.
9-11, the war, the economy.
But here comes Governor Ventura back from his desk.
There's something he wants to read for us.
Think about it.
Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura, the former German Defense Minister, high-level members of the Japanese Parliament, the former Italian President, coming out and questioning the official story, or coming right out and saying it's an inside job.
I mean, you cannot downplay this, but the establishment trumps.
And when you hear it, it really, to me, parallels the last eight years of thought process here in the United States, where I've been saying that I'm kind of out of the loop now, or it seems that I am.
I'll just read it, okay?
Here it is.
Quote, Naturally, the common people don't want war.
But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy.
And it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, The people always can be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
I mean, even the... Hitler didn't just attack Poland, he staged an attack on their own military base, and later admitted it, or firebombed his own Reichstag to get his police state going, and we see last week the Democrats, supposedly are so good, no, they said, yeah, we're against the Fourth Amendment.
Yeah, and the Democrats voted last week to continue that policy, that they don't have to, that they could invade your privacy and literally disregard the Fourth Amendment.
Yeah, and the Democrats voted last week to continue that policy, that they don't have to, that they could invade your privacy and literally disregard the Fourth Amendment.
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And then, when he came on my show and talked about 9-11 being an inside job, you know, I'd met him before that.
When he questioned the official story of 9-11.
Really, his stock went up to 100% for me.
Right up there, really, even past Ron Paul.
Ron Paul has said that he thinks they may stage attacks, or may stage Gulf of Tonkins, or that they may have let it happen, but he just won't come out and say that it looks like a controlled demolition for political reasons.
I really respect Governor Jesse Ventura, and even if he doesn't announce he's running for Senate tonight on Larry King Live, you better believe I'll be watching.
Hope you're watching.
He's done his duty coming out on the show, Question 9-11, speaking out against the police state and everything else he's done.
Before we go back to your calls, Governor Ventura, you were speaking about the parallels with Nazi Germany and with what we're seeing in this country today.
Well, you know, Alex, it troubles me when you, for the last eight years, you can take a quote like I read from Herman Goering and apply it to the United States of America because that's exactly what we've been told.
We've been told we were attacked.
Which all of us saw, and of course, maybe we were, maybe we weren't.
Only they know for sure, I guess.
And second of all, this nonsense about, you know, people need to remember what Thomas Jefferson said.
He said dissension is the greatest form of patriotism.
And in our republic, that is true.
But yet, in the last eight years, we've had it pounded into our heads that if you dissent, you're unpatriotic.
That if you don't go along to get along, you're unpatriotic.
And then they try to hit you with, if you don't support everything we're doing, you're against the troops.
Well, that is not true.
I'm a veteran.
And to me, supporting the troops means not sending them in harm's way, unless it's vital or absolutely necessary.
And in my opinion, the Iraq War was certainly not vital and it certainly wasn't necessary.
And I support our troops by bringing them home.
Who, you know, to quote John Kerry after Vietnam, who will be the last man to die in Iraq?
We also have this hiding behind the flag, which is particularly despicable.
They always say the flag is the last refuge of tyrants.
Patriotism is the last refuge of tyrants and thugs.
And they're the ones that promised the troops they'd be home in six months and knew they'd be there for a decade in their own Pentagon plans.
They're the ones that want to just destabilize the region, not bring democracy, as they say, publicly.
And it's just so despicable to see them continue over and over again to get away with this and then have the nerve.
Bill O'Reilly goes on TV, it's a talking point on Fox and other places, and says, once the war starts you're to shut your mouth and you don't have any say when I thought the troops were fighting so that we'd have a say.
And then you have 75% or more of all the donations from the troops And you know what gets me to Alex?
Exactly what you said.
anti-war candidate.
I mean, the majority of the troops in major polls are against the war.
So how dare these chicken hawks claim that we're not allowed to criticize this illegal war?
And you know what gets me, too, Alex, exactly what you said, these chicken hawks.
Because the majority of the great war supporters of this country are the very people who they themselves would never put themselves in the line of danger, would never put a uniform on, and And I'm talking about our current Commander-in-Chief, George W. Bush.
He leads the way.
Dick Cheney with, what, five deferments during Vietnam.
Our own illustrious Norm Coleman, the senator from Minnesota, who was a huge war protester at Hofstra University when he was back in college, when his little Heinger was on the line, and when he might have to go to war, he wanted no part of it.
But today, this guy's rubber-stamped everything with the war, and he's got a kid who's of age to go serve.
Do you think his kid's in the military heading to Iraq?
I get very concerned and I get very confused in my country today when cheating on your wife is an impeachable offense, but going to an illegal war and killing thousands of people isn't.
I'm still trying to figure that one out.
See, that's what I mean.
I'm not mainstream.
Most people in this country had no problem when Bill Clinton got impeached for cheating on his wife.
Which to me, I don't condone it, but I don't care, just like right now.
The other reason that I probably won't fit in good is I'm not religious enough to hold office in this country anymore.
I don't have a minister, I don't go to church.
So, therefore, I probably don't have the type of values that they want to see in public office.
Well, at least you're not a fake, and that's what matters.
I mean, I'm sure you've read about the gay porn stars being shipped into the Bohemian Grove and into the White House mainstream news and how the Republican senators are always caught in bathrooms.
You and I are going to differ on that.
and of course they're all big church goers now i think people want a jesse ventura uh...
you know even if you're not religious like they are because they just want somebody who's a straight shooter they're tired of the crap you want to know to agree with that either alex company you and i have got a good job that i don't believe that people of this country to want the truth do you want a good example Tell me.
You know, in the words of Jack Nicholson and a few good men, I don't believe you can't handle, not you Alex, but the quote, you can't handle the truth.
Our ancestors built, you know, this continent, carved it out.
They weren't perfect, but they were sure, you know, daring and hardworking and piratical.
And then now, Uh, we got fat and decadent, and thought that evil and corruption was cute, and I think the people are going to find out now with the economy that it's not cute.
I'm happy that the people of America and their economy now are feeling some pain because of this war.
The problem with this war from day one was that it took five years for the pain to get here.
But now the pain has arrived because this war plays a big part in the horrible shape that our economy's in today.
And it's taken this long and prices of $4 to $5 a gallon for gas to finally reach home with the American people that maybe it'll wake them up and tell them that war is not a good thing, that war is not a profit maker, that it doesn't help your economy.
Well, I agree with you, and as you said, the top economist, it's very simple.
Dollar devaluation because of excess government spending and the banks creating too much liquidity, as well as the war driving speculation, Is what is bringing us down into what mainstream media is now saying could be a depression.
But still, you hear the neocons on radio saying, let's blow the hell out of Iran.
And I've talked to liquor store owners and pizza place owners I know.
They say that whenever there's a war, a bombardment, that they sell out of liquor and pizza.
And these men go home and like feel some manly extension off of seeing cluster bombs being dropped on children.
And actually I was thinking that this morning.
In a sick way, all these decadent people that love the lies, love being bullies, love being part of this evil, do they think the way the universe works that they can be supporting all this evil and that it isn't going to blow back on them?
I don't know, but I've always believed what goes around comes around, Alex.
And we're going to get our comeuppance, I think, pretty quick here.
If we don't change the path we're going on and start leading with diplomacy, that's the one thing I did like about Barack Obama, where he said that he would talk to our enemies, and yet he took all the heat for that.
I don't understand why you get heat for talking with your enemy.
You can always fight him.
Fighting him is always the option.
That's the last option and it always remains out there.
I want to take a few calls here with you, Governor Ventura, but in the 15 minutes we've got left, any other key points or things you want to impart to this audience?
now now hold on and i know how it is to be frustrated but and i'm excuse you you're the one voice out there you take a tremendous amount of heat yourself and i commend you for having the courage to continue what you do Oh no sir, I commend you, we appreciate you, but let me just... Oh no, Alex, you're doing just as much as me, because you're on the air every day.
i'm not on the air every day well i just want to say this there is a tide in the fortunes of men when they know taken at the flood or i'm getting that uh...
backwards there is a tide in the affairs of men when taken at the flood leads on to fortune that's a julius caesar quote there is a time the affairs of men when taken at the flood leads on to fortune the the fortune you and i are after is liberty and freedom for our children and grandchildren our prodigy uh...
our progeny to come And so I'm saying to you, you came early.
You came before this thing really came to a head.
Now, you are right at that flashpoint, Governor Ventura, and we need somebody, you know, who's intelligent, who is, you know, manly, who is strong, who is the archetypal leader type You know, up there with the chiseled jaw and the intellect and the gruff voice to be a leader during these times of crises.
And we've got Ron Paul and a few others.
And so that's why I believe you're going to announce for the Senate.
I hope your son says, Dad, do it.
I know it means six years in that nightmare pit of D.C., but you'll still be able to take some time off for fishing and going out and surfing.
and and and seeing your wife i mean i understand you've already given a lot i understand it was hellish being governor and being lied about and having your children being hunted by the uh...
you know uh... media uh...
but but all i'm trying to say is this is history this is history you can't turn history down or your whole life up to this point being in this position i think you're gonna make the right decision tonight well there is no right or wrong decision well you certainly already come out and talk about nine eleven and spoken out I mean, you've already done your duty.
I'm saying we need you to go above and beyond that.
It took me a while to get to that point, I think, because I was in denial.
I didn't want to believe it.
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Well, I don't think anybody did.
I don't think anybody did.
And I just want to say that whatever your decision is tonight, we respect you and we honor that decision, because I know family is a huge commitment.
I do also want to say that we are in a monumental period in history where we can either look back on this and say, you know, Man, I wish I would have done it, or we can look back and say I wish I had.
But look how much support Ron Paul got over $27 million.
I think you're going to get that same type of support.
I think most of that movement would get behind you.
And again, the media doesn't have the power it had six, seven years ago.
Remember how they censored you when you tried to do your TV show?
You're not going to be censored now because there's this huge alternative media now Wait a minute now, that's not true, because if you look at what's happening right now in St.
Paul, where they're going to have the Republican Convention, the police and the courts are already ruling that the protesters will not be allowed on any of the main streets, that they're going to be only to side streets, so that way they'll get them off.
My question is, are you aware of the National Incident Management System and how it pertains to the The breakdown of the chain of command and taking the powers away from local sheriffs.
Governor Ventura, you're aware that they're federalizing a lot of police.
The President, under his executive orders, is now saying Congress isn't allowed to see the emergency plans, but the declassified version says the President is a dictator.
That was one of the first things I disliked about Bush when he first got in office was that he flagrantly lied to me.
When we first got in office, of course, you have the National Governors Association that meets with the president, and you have the dinner on Sunday night, and then Monday morning you meet in the White House, and you talk domestic policy, what direction he's going to go, and what you can expect as a governor.
And George Bush, the first year he was in office, looked at all of us and said he was going to be an old Federalist-type president.
In other words, he was going to give power to the states, which I agree with.
I like that.
I like the idea of states being their own entities in this country to where then the state that most fits my beliefs, I can go live in that state because they will be parallel to what I believe in.
Well, Bush, what he did was just the opposite.
Once he got in power, he was the opposite.
He started taking all the power from the states, cases in point.
I believe 12 or 13 states now have passed the use of medicinal marijuana, where doctors should be able to prescribe it, and yet Bush and the federal government says, oh no, we won't allow that.
Oregon two times has passed the Dignity and Death Bill, where the people have voted on it, and yet Bush says, we don't care if you voted on it, we're not going to allow it to happen.
So it doesn't surprise me in the least that he would be federalizing most of our law enforcement because that's what our government has been heading that direction.
It continues to head that direction, and nobody seems to want to stop it.
Governor Ventura, getting back briefly to 9-11 and take a few final calls.
uh I mean, everybody who's in control of demolition, and I've talked to countless people on air, guests about it, say that's a classical control demolition.
We have firemen and police saying, we've been told to get back, they're going to bring the buildings down.
We have all of this going on.
I mean, how dumb does the government think we are to sit there and tell us that we're crazy to question the falling of those towers?
You notice there's no other investigations happening.
There aren't going to be any investigations happening.
You notice on the Democratic side, if it's brought up to people like Bill Clinton and even Bill Maher, They yell and scream at the people and tell them they're crazy.
There will be nothing that will happen on 9-11 in my opinion.
9-11 is a buried, done deal.
The history books has recorded it as such.
And it will take a monumental thing.
Because look at John F. Kennedy.
They still hold to the fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone assassin.
And anybody that can believe that hogwash, but yet the history books have stated that way, aren't they?
But, Governor, we now have the internet and other things, and the history books have finally been discredited, and it didn't take us 40 years to get 80-some percent of people thinking that 9-11 was an inside job, as 80-plus percent now know that Kennedy was an inside job.
Well that too, and also it'll make the Republicans for some reason even stronger because another additional war everybody's saying is going to help John McCain.
So don't think it's beyond the Republicans to get going against him to hurt anybody to Iran, and then they're going to sell us on the fact that even though the largest attack in U.S.
history happened on a Republican watch, you notice they're already blaming Bill Clinton for 9-11.
Hey Governor, we're back in 50 seconds and this is only a four and a half minute segment.
We'll come in, take two final calls, plug the book, and then I'm going to be praying all day that you are hoping above hope that you're going to run for the Senate because I see destiny in this and I really think there's going to be fireworks.
I am not going to hate you, absolutely not, and I would hope that is your decision before you leave in the fall to go back down to the Pacific Coast of Mexico that you'll come back on and talk about the tyranny, because you're speaking out.
A lot of people listen to you and respect you, so you've already done more than your duty speaking out, and we appreciate it.
I don't think anything, you know, remember these two political parties and the Republicans are in bad shape right now.
McCain's trailing.
Republicans look like they'll get slaughtered in the congressional races, and they're going to lose all their power.
So rest assured that some type of decision they will have to come up with in an attempt to continue to keep themselves in power, because that's what the two parties do, and that's their main objective.
The main thing is this nine plus trillion dollar debt.
Look at it like you'd look at your own home.
Economics.
If you've got a mortgage or a debt hanging over your head that's more than you make, that's more than what all the worth you have, Well, your economy is in big trouble.
Well, that's the same way because of the debt that our economy is in trouble today, and the devaluing of the dollars goes hand in hand with the high oil prices.
Just like when conservatives would see Bill Clinton handing over ports to the communist Chinese military they would freak out and think my god republicans must be good and then run join them see that's how the left-right paradigm works the left feeds the right the right feeds the left in their fear keeping the two groups separate but combined into the same false paradigm tied up together
And so, Republican policies reinforce the left, and Democratic, liberal policies reinforce the right.
Whether it's in Germany, or England, or the US, or Australia, it doesn't matter.
This is a dialectic.
This is a system of control.
And so everybody sees real environmental problems, people dying of cancer when they're 15 years old everywhere.
Leukemia is way up, all these other things way up, autism, people unhealthy, all these new diseases, all these toxicities, all these superfund sites, and then they hear of the solutions of global tax and they say, my God, I'm for it!
How do you approach somebody and go, look, here's how the trick works.
Bush comes out against it, and then you know he's a bad guy and wrong on every other policy, so you think, oh my gosh, it must be good.
I'm for a global warming tax.
You see, just like Bush is so bad, well the left all must be good, so maybe gun control is good if Bush is against it.
But in reality, he tripled the size of the BATF and is coming after your guns.
You see, that's why you've got to get out of the left-right paradigm.
We're not going to save the environment, and it's in trouble, folks, unless we can not let them co-opt us into their false solution of taxing greenhouse gases.
I hope all of this is getting through to you.
Okay?
They're going to tax your breathing while they engineer grasses, oaks, every food plant, every animal, crossing it with other insects and other animals, hundreds of human hybrids, goat hybrids, pig hybrids, cow hybrids, Horse hybrids, dog hybrids, jellyfish-humanoid hybrids.
I mean, type in human-animal hybrid into Google and all the National Geographic, AP, Reuters, BBC.
You tell the person on the street that, they don't believe it exists, because they've been taught to fear carbon dioxide, not Cross-species hybrids that give rise to super-viruses, that then go into bacteria and give you super-mutated bacteria, already killing bees, killing trees, killing the ocean, mutating plankton.
I mean, this is... Oh my God.
We can't worry about something real.
We can't worry about overfishing.
We can't worry about anything real, or chopping down rainforest.
We've just got to tax carbon dioxide.
Alright, we're going to Bob Chapman, and I've got all this other news here.
He'll be with us for the rest of the show, or until about 45 after next hour.
Your calls are coming up, I promise, at 1-800-259-9231 on any issue with Bob Chapman, but especially the economy.
Bob, I want you to recap what we've seen happen the last week with Indy Bank, with Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, And then walk us through the basics, recap the basics, and then look at what solutions to this would be, but we know that's not going to happen, so where this is going to go.
And so we can't have big solutions to fix the major problems, which you say is too late, and I agree, but to have a softer landing than what we can do individually.
Bob Chapman, The International Forecaster, thank you for joining us.
And if you'd like, you can comment on the environmental rant I was just engaging in.
Some of the things that you spoke about, I wasn't aware of, and I think you've got a great grasp on it, and I think the listeners should be happy that you're able to present it in a concise form that way.
As far as what's going on in the financial markets, we can reach back almost a year now.
When the exposure came, There was a credit crisis.
Needless to say, it had been building for the last couple of years prior to that.
And since then, they really accomplished very little in solving that crisis.
We've seen commercial and residential real estate fall in value in degrees, depending upon where you are and how much your real estate went up.
We've seen a tremendous fraud uncovered with the sale of mortgage bonds called CDOs and SIVs and the mislabeling them of AAA when in fact they were BBB with a difference between a 10 and a 4.
And now we're starting to see the Falling out of banking structure.
We saw the financial assassination of Bear Stearns.
They never had to go under.
That was the machinations of those on Wall Street in conjunction with the Federal Reserve, which Wall Street owns.
And we then saw beginnings of institutions going under, and that came with the mortgage companies first, And then there was some 235 or 50 of them that went down.
Then that was followed by IndyMac.
IndyMac happened on Friday after the close of the market.
That's usually when they do those things.
And they've known for a long time that there was a serious problem there, just like they did with Countrywide.
And they had one of their shareholders, Bank of America, step in and buy Countrywide.
And by the looks of things, The purchase of Countrywide may end up taking Bank of America down in time as well.
And so, IndyMac is, like Countrywide, become emblematic of the decline of, particularly, residential housing.
And it's got a long way to go.
I saw a couple of articles that said, in the last couple of days, especially one today in the Chicago Tribune, Uh, relating that the subprime alter mortgage problem will be over this month.
Not in their wildest dreams.
That particular segment of the market has got until the end of next June to go.
And all during that period it's going to be nasty.
I didn't want to interrupt you because I wanted you to go over all this, but that was in my list of things to ask.
This is the same group that told us six months ago with Bear Stearns that this was the end of the downturn, and they knew the whole time because I was reading some of their internal stuff that leaks out.
They were saying, get ready for curtains.
Meanwhile, they're telling the people everything's great.
That makes them lose more confidence, doesn't it?
Doesn't that make the people trust them even less?
That the fact that they can never tell us the truth?
And it brings more people to recognition of what's going on.
And it also... So why do they lie?
Because they have no other choice.
They have just decimated the financial and economic system.
Through their greed more than anything else.
And they also want to, as you explained when you talked about environmentalism, that they want to denude the Western nations of manufacturing capability so they can handle them better, bring them down to a lower level.
And it's the same thing in the financial and economic overall sphere.
And so We're looking at all these fallouts, and what if from here on out, you're probably going to see a few hundred banks go under, maybe even more.
And the FDIC is $52 billion in round figures, and this buyout saving of IndyMac is going to cost somewhere around $6 or $8 billion, so it's a good chunk of the money that they had.
I noticed that, and they didn't say how, but they said those who had more than $100,000 in their accounts would be compensated in time.
I don't know whether it's this century or the next, but anyway, we've been telling people to take any monies out of banks that were over $100,000, and to think twice about even keeping $100,000 in a bank, because I think many of them, because of this toxic waste in the form of mortgage bonds that they're holding and other loans as well, and credit card loans and everything else, that many, many banks are going to be under pressure.
Well, there are services that do that, and we have one that we recommend to people, and they charge a small fee, which I think is understandable and worthwhile to find out what their rating on such-and-such bank is.
and But I think the main thing is that you don't want to have a lot of cash around unless you've got a business or something like that.
And even if you've got a business, if you're using a bank, you're going to have to use several banks if you've got like a half a million.
You should have five accounts with 100,000 each of them just to protect yourself.
And people who don't need a great cash flow or money sitting there behind them, I think they should be considering gold and silver-related assets.
And for those who already have a lot of those or don't want any, the only alternative I can see is Swiss franc government bonds.
And they yield to 2.5%, the strongest currency in the world.
They do have enough gold to back their currency if they choose to again.
And so that is that alternative.
So I don't have many things to offer, just gold and silver-related assets and those bonds.
And there's not many places to go.
I think the stock market's going lower.
I think interest rates are going higher in the real interest rate market.
You said here in late 2007, you said in the seventh month and that's now what we're in.
You said in July you'll see banks start going under.
And I get confused.
I mean, I know you're the expert.
That's why I get confused.
But you're saying it's going to take longer, a couple more years for the depression to hit, but then you were right on about the earnings coming in, the news coming in now, this happening now.
I just don't see this going out another two and a half years.
Because all those guys... We're going to skip this break, Bob.
Stay there.
We're going to talk to Bob behind the scenes here.
May I?
Bob, continue.
Explain that.
I mean, obviously, but for somebody who's making $20,000 a year, they're going to be worse off in a bad market or a depression than somebody worth a billion bucks.
And then, in addition to that, they were very, very surprised at the mess that the Bush administration and
uh... the uh... blair and now uh... gordon brown administration in in london made of iraq and afghanistan it's it's just you know the corporate entity a couple years ago he said i mean this is a nightmare i mean uh... you know that uh... with all the work we did on this thing and these guys have made a mess out of it is it set back the The timetable for world government by 30 years.
He later said 50.
And I'm happy about that.
But how did they get in the mess they're in?
Those are the two factors.
They reached too far beyond.
And you've got to remember, one of the real problems that they have is they are very, very arrogant people.
They think they're the lords of the world.
The heads of the universe, if you might If you might.
And they're prone to make those kind of silly mistakes because they have a lot of people working with them 24-7 all over the world because they have endless supplies of wealth, working on their plans for the future.
And then, of course, Brzezinski and Kissinger and people like that take those plans and put them together and shape them into policy for these people, in which you've said, Alex, You can find all this.
All you have to do is be willing to read and do research.
I mean, Foreign Affairs is the house organ of the Council on Foreign Relations.
I was a subscriber since 1960.
And what they're going to do, they just print it right out and tell you.
To all the police, all the military, all the government people, the general public listening, everything that the patriots have talked about, everything we've talked about here, has come true and happened.
You know in your gut we're telling you the truth.
You know we're in deep trouble.
Everybody has this feeling of dread.
This great concern.
The media tells you that's your sixth sense.
Worried about Al-Qaeda.
Al-C-I-A-D-A.
But you know the dread is what's happening economically and militarily.
Your call's coming up in the next segment.
Bob Chapman, our guest.
The largest in the past gold and silver broker in the world, the largest newsletter in the world, and retired.
He's back in the last few years, I guess six, seven, eight years now, with International Forecaster.
And we're honored that he spends so much time with us each week during these crises.
He's one of our best experts we have on, one of many, but they all seem to be agreeing on the basics.
But his insight is even deeper than most, because he also worked in military intelligence before he got into the financials.
Bob, this is a quick segment, as you know, but I'm going to skip it for behind-the-scenes listeners, so we'll go straight through to the next segment and take calls.
Iran.
Bush said Friday, and I've got it right here, Times of London, he said, I support Israel going ahead and hitting Iran, publicly said go ahead and hit them.
Well, I think the main reason is to detract people's minds away from the economic and financial problems that not only beset the United States, but the world.
Because when the doggy, which is the United States, wags its tail, All the world thunders and quakes and trembles, economically and financially.
And so, I think it is a move just like Iran and Afghanistan were, to get people looking in the other direction.
I once met a man from Israel and I said, aren't you concerned about the economic climate that's there?
And he said, no, I'm more concerned about whether I'm going to get killed or not.
If you've got these wars going on, people are going to be thinking, well, gee, what's next?
The draft?
Maybe I'll have to go do that.
And so that's one of the reasons.
Of course, they want Iran's oil.
Israel wants to expand.
And they want Iran to be neutralized, just like they wanted Iraq neutralized.
And of course, there's the oil production, which the Western oil companies would like to get their hands on.
And that is clouded by the fact that Iran has treaties with and agreements with China and Russia.
And the big question is, are they going to get involved?
I would think that if anybody did, Russia might.
And, you know, Israel, if they attack, might get a surprise.
And also, Russia has said yesterday that they are contemplating now, even though Poland has backed out of the missile deal, putting those missiles ostensibly to shoot down Iranian rockets, when in fact it was to threaten Russia, they said, you know, if you go ahead somewhere over there and you do that, we're going to target all of the major cities in Western Europe.
I think it's going to stay in the same general area, somewhere between 125 and 150.
I think that is probably the zone for it into the fall.
And were we to have a conflict, who knows where it'll go.
Because it would depend on the conflict, number one.
And number two, are they going to sink all of the shipping in the Persian Gulf or in the Streets of Hormuz?
Are they going to blow up Saudi Arabia?
There's a lot of questions.
So, in oil, under those circumstances, it could be $200 to $300, I don't know, any number you want to make.
And so, on the downside, if there's no attack, anywhere between $80 and $120, picking $100 or $80 as a bottom on oil, Yeah, remember the good old days when oil was $100 a barrel?
But mostly, most of the prices were in the $13 to $15 range.
But still, it was very low.
And you know, you ask yourself, how do these things happen?
Well, there's a lot of manipulation going on, a lot of politics, and we're not behind the scenes, so we've got to get to what they're doing, we've got to back into their intentions.
Well, the worsening economic straits, I mean, remember the stock market started going down and then they staged 9-11 to kind of be an emotional rally around the flag opiate.
And I mean, do you agree with me?
I mean, I believe from the evidence that worsening economic straits encourages them to go ahead and attack.
To misdirect people, and that does push the odds from perhaps even money to 60-40, 60 that it would happen, or maybe 70-30.
Again, because we're not on the inside, we don't know, but those are probably the odds now because of the crumbling of the markets and the terrible problems of bankruptcies that we're seeing in the United States and in Western Europe.
They tried today to keep the market up, we've got about About an hour to go, 15 minutes, and the Dow is coming unglued again.
And, you know, every time it does that, they come in the market to try to keep it up, to holding off, you know, the inevitable problem of lower prices.
Lower prices are very important to them that they don't happen because the market is the last vistage, the stock market, of anything that is pliable that will I stand up for you, and that's not happening anymore.
The market has broken down from a fundamental and a technical base, and it should have broken down a long time ago.
But it is now, and so that adds fuel to the fire to have Israel and the United States go in and attack Iran.
But again, will the Russians get involved?
If they do, you get a third world war and it'll go nuclear.
Europe, the United States, Russia will have all kinds of casualties.
But the boldness to carry out a complex op like 9-11...
It shows these are very, very reckless, arrogant people and it shows they're into stuff that's spectacular.
By the way, ladies and gentlemen, we couldn't be in worse straits.
I mean, Bush has been totally unstable and a nice puppet for the elite, but now we face Barack Obama.
And John McCain, both of them equally as bad.
But this is another strike against Obama.
Arnold Schwarzenegger, Politico reporting, and they're a good source of news, a cabinet-level position, which if cabinet is in the succession, I believe that violates the Constitution with foreign-born being in the succession line for president.
Arnold, a very dangerous person, just insane with power lust.
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said in an interview aired Sunday that he would be open to an idea of serving as Energy Czar in Barack Obama's administration.
Of course, he ran in California on the advisory panel, the Enron scamming, and then posed and ran on a platform fighting Enron.
He's a very corrupt individual.
I mean, just another example of who could, Bob, who could imagine a comic book series where we'd be looking at 2008 with a son of a Nazi who says he wants to be a Nazi dictator, who's in gay porn, running around with some guy whose dad's a Muslim, named Hussein Barack Obama, with a nutcase Manchurian candidate who wants our guns for the Republican.
Well, those tattletale squads are really, really something that I don't listen to your program all the time, so I don't know how much you've covered it.
But they've got police and firefighters and paramedics and other people who are out among the public who are employed by government in one form or another.
They are now training them to look for suspicious things.
Well, and in fact they give children money to spy on their parents, and they have these neighborhood FBI meetings now for six and a half years.
They say, come to the meeting to fight Al-Qaeda.
And you show up and they say, okay, this is a week-long course, you're fighting Al-Qaeda, and then it's like an hour on Al-Qaeda, and the rest is, does your neighbor have pot plants?
Did they spank their kids?
And it's all how to get people in the system.
I mean, this is insane.
I mean, Bob, this is what you fought when you were in intelligence, isn't it?
You were fighting a real war with their operatives, but at the highest levels, we were giving them the nukes, the food, the money, letting them take over countries, because we couldn't be the bad guys then.
The bankers had to have somebody to go around and murder middle classes, but now we're going to be the bad guys.
Anyway, 1846, California, General Vallejo instilling tyranny, trying to steal the Golden Republic, and here we have Governor Schwarzenegger running around doing stuff that's a hundred times worse, and nobody does anything about it!
And, you know, again, it's back to the same thing.
The public aren't paying attention.
If they don't care, there's no evidence.
If they do care, there's no evidence of it.
I recognized some of the major problems in California where I lived for 36 years.
In the early 1990s, and I said, I've got to get out of here, because the tax base was eroding, they were overwhelmed with people who didn't pay taxes at all, and the economy continued to deteriorate, and most people couldn't see that.
But it's getting people to do things, and that's what the gentleman is asking.
Well, the problem is they're going to use nerve gas.
The problem is that the central government has said they're going to use nerve gas and just kill everybody.
That's right, cops.
If there's actually a civil war, they're going to nerve gas you with us.
Hope you enjoy flopping around for ten seconds while you die like a fish out of water.
Your God is going to nerve gas you.
Stay there.
I want to skip to Bob Chapman.
By the age of 60, half of all... Take me to Bob.
Bob?
We're going to come back and take calls in the full program, but we've got tens of thousands listening and watching right now.
I want to talk about that.
The Sunshine Project in 2000 was able to get the secret documents from Congress, only the cover sheets, but you know they have helicopters in every city under a continuity of government.
This goes back to Clinton with knockout gas, opiates, but we also know now they have nerve gas on them, and that they're planning, if there's ever a wide-scale revolt, to nerve gas from the air.
You know, they are wild and mad beyond description.
It's hard to get that over the people because, you know, they run around on television well-dressed and they seem like such nice ladies and gentlemen, when in fact they're evil malefactors.
And people just don't see it because they don't have time to get the depth of thought that we do.
It is accelerating, and the information that we're getting now because of the Internet, and because so many people are now looking into it, is really overwhelming.
And people say to me, you know, You write that publication.
How do you put up with all that negativism?
And I said, I don't have a problem at all.
You know, after 50 years, you get used to it.
But then again, you never get totally used to it.
It's just like war.
You never get totally used to watching people die.
What's negative is that people don't know we have this infection like gangrene, and we're trying to cut the rotten flesh off, and yeah, it doesn't feel good, but it's going to save the body.
And so to me, I don't get, quote, tired of it, because I know I need to basically lance the boil.
Do you have anything to say about what you've been hearing from Governor Ventura and Bob Chapman and others?
unidentified
Yes.
Well, I'm African American, and it's no surprise that our government has been corrupt for a long time, but facing the current dangers of everyone that's starving and hurt, I think it's time for us to really start focusing on what we can do to better America.
That's why I called.
We can start introducing you to some people that, I guess, of other nationalities and around the world that's Muslim.
I get mad at myself because I don't work hard enough, I'm not eloquent enough, I can't articulate my understanding.
Clear enough.
And I mean, I burn with desire to warn people.
I burn to reach new people.
I burn to warn people.
And it's because at an instinctive level, spiritual, whatever you want to call it, I know what comes around goes around.
And I know at an instinctive level, I can intellectually reason it out, and then you reap what you sow as a scientific fact.
I can intellectually, in the geopolitical realm, show you how it is a fact.
But just instinctively, I know killing a million Iraqis in the last seven years, last five and a half years, killing three million of them conservatively in the last eighteen, that is a great evil done in my country's name that besmirches my forefathers and besmirches my children in the future.
And that there's a law in the universe.
We're going to be hurt because of this.
We're going to pay for this.
And not just when we die, folks.
You pay in this life.
And so I'm trying to rectify that.
My instincts... Bob Chabon, do you see the point I'm making?
In Iraq, okay, how many, because we see 75% of the donations, a total of about 40% of all political donations from the troops went to Ron Paul, the rest mainly to Barack Obama because they thought he was anti-war.
We see polls of 75% of the troops against the war a year ago.
What is the feeling of the forces over there right now and how many people over there are aware of the New World Order?
unidentified
Well, you've got to understand is I'm actually in the Army, I'm a soldier, and I think most of his probably donations are probably Navy, Air Force, and Marines.
I'm in a special operations community, and they're completely compartmentalized.
If they are there, they're very silent.
I was kind of the only voice in my area, and telling you where I'm at right now, I went to that Ron Paul rally this past weekend, and I got to see how real this really is, and I finally got to be surrounded by people who think like me.
I know that there are out there in the military that understand what's going on, but where I'm at, I'm pretty much all alone, and I understand Mr. Ventura's frustration.
He probably feels like he's isolated, but I'll tell you, most of us soldiers have to give up so much time.
I know I lost my wife.
I'm divorced now.
I got two daughters, and I had to give up a lot of my own personal time, and I love Mr. Ventura.
I feel connected to all of you.
Because I think we're all brothers and sisters in God.
But I really wish he'd reconsider, because I really feel like you do.
He was kind of giving a hint that he's not going to run, but... Yeah, he kept saying, don't get mad at me if I don't.
Well, I didn't listen to Mr. Ventura, and so I don't know what he said, but I'll tell you one thing, he's better than anybody else that's got a shot up there.
And so with that said, it would be a good idea if he was able to run.
You need to tell all those men, join the rebellion against the New World Order, and they'll get their moral compass back, they'll get their strength back, and they'll have the moral initiative, and they'll stop killing themselves.
We appreciate you.
Alright, here we go.
Final segment with Bob Chapman.
Listen, the world's a real place.
You can't live in decadence forever.
We're going into very hard times, ladies and gentlemen.
Everybody, including people in this movement, need to have a gut check.
Need to put out the maximum effort right now against the New World Order.
I thought Ventura would definitely run.
It didn't sound good when he kept hinting about, well, don't get mad at me if I don't run.
Alex, I'll do another interview with you before I go back to Mexico.
If he's gonna run for the Senate, he's not gonna be going back to Mexico.
So many people are running to, and we'll find out tonight on Larry King.
Bob Chapman, we were just talking for the PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, because we do some of the behind-the-scenes talking, talking to that Special Forces officer that just came back, and his commander just hung himself.
And we have record suicides.
In fact, I saw a report, it is 14 times any previous suicide numbers.
14 times!
I mean, they are killing themselves in mass.
And even men, when it's a righteous war, tend to break down a good percentage of them.
Or, they die young of heart attacks, so they're real reckless.
You know, I had a lot of veterans in my family, and they were old guys, and you'd see them, they were always ready to get in a fight with somebody, always macho, not a fake macho, reckless, you know, crazy.
And that was one tour.
Imagine five tours.
Imagine three tours.
Bob, I mean, one tour would fry most people in combat.
Three tours in combat?
I mean, again, it's just the elites breaking all their own rules, Bob.
They're doing things that are destroying their own power base.
And you're also right about the tours and the breakdown of the individual.
And it doesn't matter how smart or how unsmart you are.
It affects everybody.
It's an emotional thing.
And for anybody that's ever been in combat, they know that you never want to be there again.
And when you're asked to go three times, that's a little much.
And so you're right, they are breaking down the structure that they've created, this essentially mercenary force.
Because there's no draft involved.
Maybe there's a better word for it, but they call it a volunteer force.
And, you know, that's a tough way to make a living in make-believe wars, where the President has to lie to get us into a war to kill over a million people.
And it's just terrible.
I do a program on Friday with Drew Rains, and most of the listeners are active and retired military people, and I do it because of that.
I'm a veteran myself and most of the Marines and Navy, but we get a lot of people listening from the State Department.
And it's amazing the things that go on.
I don't know if I ever told you, but they told me on the program from the State Department that all of the embassies have a copy of my report every time it comes out.
And Washington is very upset that I am printing what I'm printing.
All you're going to get is bad luck, and that isn't some physical threat.
You are foolish if you don't know that when you do bad things, and that means especially messing with somebody who's putting the truth out, that the universe doesn't like that, do they, Bob?
Let's talk to Chris in Montreal, Canada, then Tony and Peggy.
Go ahead, Chris.
You're on the air with Bob Chapman.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
Hey, Bob.
Good afternoon.
First, just a couple of comments.
I hope I'm not too off-topic.
First, I'd like to say that Truth Rising is excellent.
It's excellent.
The cinematography, the score, it's a beautiful, beautiful movie.
But my question was about legal militias.
Do they still exist?
I know that in the States and in Canada a lot of the militias have been absorbed either into the National Guard or in Canada, the Reserves, but I'm not really a hundred percent clear on it.
The organized militia wasn't set up until 1906 as the National Guards.
All the Federalist Papers, all the court cases I mean, that's why a sheriff could deputize, but you had to do what he said.
That was an instant draft by the elected representative, could say, you're coming with me, somebody just killed, you know, some kid, just raped some girl, we're going to chase them if it's across five states.
There was no jurisdiction, they went after them.
So that's when the people were the government, now there's the mistrust of the corrupt government of the people.
So militias are totally legal, totally lawful, It is your right and duty, 18 to 49, and in enduring emergencies they can call people out even 65.
The governor, the county commissioners, the sheriff, the city cannot call out the militia.
It's a state function and through state chartered institutions.
But the problem is they infiltrate militias and people try to set them up and then feds even try to become leaders to then send everybody to prison No, I think you've covered it fully.
That's just the way it is, and the government has done that, and they've tried to do that to me several times.
In fact, they've gone to friends of mine and told them that they want them to give all the information they can and spy upon me.
And I didn't know it until years later.
Of course, he didn't do that.
And before he died, he told me that they had come and threatened him and so on and so forth.
And and so they do do those things.
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Well, yeah, I'm fully aware of the undermining of any any effort like this.
Yeah.
And like I said, I was just wondering if I mean, I know I know they're illegal, but they've been demonized and... Yeah, but see, the Second Amendment is... Montana militia is renowned for being these kooks, but I know what a militia is.
I know they're not nuts, and I was just wondering why this isn't happening more en masse.
Like, you would think that as many organized militias as you can in as many places would be very... Chris, let me move on and explain what happened.
The militia movement had state representatives behind it.
Oklahoma passed an anti-UN law and called out the militia.
Then the feds went in there and blew a federal building to Kingdom Come to blame it on the militia.
People would try to form militias.
And then Feds would infiltrate and provocateur.
I mean, I've gone out to pro-Second Amendment meetings that the government here considers a militia, and we had Feds come to it, and locals, and say, let's blow things up and kill police, and then we'd follow them out in the parking lot, and they thought we were so dumb, they were driving unmarked police cars, and then we'd follow the cop home, and he'd say, leave me alone, okay, I was just spying on you.
I mean, they spy on anti-war groups.
They're criminal dirtbags.
And so, you know, the point is, is that when they attack your Second Amendment right, that's an attack on the militia.
Okay?
The militia is you being armed and having a few of your friends you've known for your lifetime saying, we're not going to a FEMA camp, and if anybody tries to take us and our family, we're going to stick together.
Yeah, they're getting used to no free speech, no nothing, yeah.
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Yeah, so what in effect is happening is that they've got all the procedures now in place, What people don't realize is if they can use the military to control aboriginal settlements, if they can put illegal aliens in detention camps and not provide adequate medical attention for the children, they can do it to anybody.
Yeah, and you can't even take your children to school unless you've been cleared and it's proven you're not a criminal, and very often Uh, they will assign a criminal background to somebody who's not criminal.
And then you have to go fight them to prove that you are not a criminal.
I've been listening for more than seven years now, dating the pre-9-11 era.
I was amazed when you were doing the prediction in June of that year.
I want to just move on quickly towards the emergency food here in Holland.
The New World Order has taken over, all but taken over.
You know, it's a lot of stuff that is being, you know, being placed on the Internet.
People are no longer free.
There's so much stuff that is happening right now and people are just sleeping while they should be preparing.
Last week I just ordered a large stock stack of food for at the food direct dot com and we are just you know i've been busy from two thousand four to prepare a big retreat for people to go away from europe into south africa to live off the grid over there it's something that we've been working off for years and years and finally it seems to give off some fruit and i believe you know that uh...
iran is going to be bombed I've got some information.
Bob is not sure.
I understand.
You know, Bob, I respect you very much.
Your analysis, I respect it awfully a lot.
But I do see in Daniel 8 that first Iraq was going to be bombed, and later on Iran will be bombed, and Israel will take much of the brunt of that attack that is yet to come.
Bob, I tell you what, you've got about three more minutes.
Let me hold you through, I mean, into this behind-the-scenes break, but at least folks watching on the web and on TV at PrisonPlanet.tv can hear me go to Peggy.
We're going to come back in the final segment with a recap of some newly developed financial news.
The banks, the private Federal Reserve, dumping our tax money in, you're going to fit the bill, can't even prop the stock market up.
I want to get Bob's take on that and then talk to Peggy for three more minutes, then we'll come back in the final segment.
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Okay, tell Ted Standby I want to talk to him in the final segment.
Right now, Bob, I wanted to talk to you right now.
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I want to spend four minutes with Ted Anderson.
I had him on for about five minutes in the first hour, too.
Ted is selling gold and silver that he bought, that he locked in this morning before it went up by 15 plus dollars.
Gold and silver.
And Ted literally makes no money on this.
He pays the brokers like 2% to take the order.
But Ted's doing this to introduce you to metals, physically holding them, and it's because you're my listeners.
You're going to pay $970 something if you buy gold anywhere right now, but Ted has it locked in, and it's somewhat numismatic.
It has collector value.
The coin he's offering, British sovereigns, European francs, Swiss and French francs, and the American silver dollars.
I don't know.
Each one of the coins he was selling, the silver dollars were at $1, or about 90 cents above spot.
You can't get them at that.
And that was at the cost this morning when he locked them in.
They're below spot.
The silver is an insane deal.
And I feel good supporting the network, but mainly supporting you folks when you hurt the New World Order and transfer some of your Federal Reserve notes, because you can pull your Federal Reserve notes out of the bank.
They're just going to devalue there, too.
It's an amazing feeling the little bit of capital we've got is there to fund the operation.
That's why I'm rushing to get the cameras, build the stage for the TV show, to spend the money we got from the money bomb before it's devalued the next year and a half.
You know, we are just last ditch.
We're not running off with our little nest egg.
We are expending it to fight the New World Order.
But that doesn't mean you shouldn't protect your nest egg.
Ted, I mean, we've seen the markets go crazy today.
They pumped billions Into the stock market, it still went down.