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Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
Music We have a very important broadcast lined up for you today.
I tell you, this radio show gets more and more focused, more and more on target.
I am really proud of the work that we're all doing here, my team, my producer, the folks in the office, John Harmon up at the Genesis Communications Radio Network.
I'm very, very thankful to be on the air with all of you.
We're going to be talking to Dr. Doug Rockey, the former head of the Pentagon's depleted uranium program, studying it, deploying it, using it.
He'll be joining us in one hour because he's put out a new report on the dead and dying intensifying from wars all over the planet where it's been used and testing grounds.
Their own admitted manuals on it say that if the troops come in contact with it, it will kill them.
But in the new system, in the last 18 years now, they just say that, well, it is deadly, but we're going to use it and you're going to live and sleep in areas that have been bombed by it.
So, get ready to die.
So many have already died or barely survived having scores of cancers removed.
This is how the globalists operate.
You know, they use the image of the troops and the police and the firemen to get glory for themselves and the establishment, to carry out their policies and operations, and then if you ask for any health care or any support, you get zero.
In fact, you even get your Second Amendment attacked.
That's what you have to look forward to from your New World Order Masters after you're done serving them.
And then I like to have him up at least once a month.
He's going to be on with us for two hours.
He is Alan Watt cutting through the Matrix, and I want to open the phones up today for pretty much the full two hours with Alan Watt.
We'll also open the phones up for Dr. Doug Rocky next hour.
I want to take a lot of calls today.
We'll also take some of your calls in this first hour at 1-800-259-9231.
I also like to hear from listeners throughout the broadcast, because I know you've been chomping at the bit to call in.
I've got your emails, and I open the phones up Sunday, and more than half the callers called in saying they'd seen the new film, Truth Rising, and really loved it.
I want to hear why you like it or why you don't like it, what you think the most important facets of the film, Truth Rising, are.
So, Dr. Doug Rocky and Alan Watt coming up today and your phone calls 1-800-259-9231.
Now, let me go ahead and run over some of the news we have here in front of us today that I will cover in this first hour.
OPEC chief warns of unlimited oil prices if Iran is attacked.
Unlimited oil prices.
We'll break that down.
Rice warns Iran, U.S. will defend Israel.
Translate that through the Galactic Translator.
And what does that mean?
It means, if Israel blows the living daylights out of hundreds of sites in your country and kills tens of thousands of your citizens in a premeditated fashion, while menacing you with 400 nukes, we will nuke you as well.
You will not defend yourself.
This is a new rule in warfare.
You lay there and you take it.
Scum. Bush's secret army of snoops and snitches, a great story out of the progressive, uh, you know, major magazine.
The problem is they call it Bush's secret army.
Uh, this stuff was set up long before George Bush came into office.
Barack Obama or McCain will both use it.
They run nothing.
They're puppets.
And you just had Barack Obama and Hillary vote for unlimited, warrantless spying on the American people, the public end of the Fourth Amendment, and sanctioned all the criminal activities.
It's unbelievable.
Just stop believing in the left-right paradigm.
It's what's defeating us, for heaven's sakes.
Also, there's video of police beating the daylights out of a woman, and then the news calls it a tussle.
Every time the cops premeditatedly knock somebody's teeth out, it's called a tussle.
We'll be right back.
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A new world order.
In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.
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It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
Put their objective being world domination.
alex jones
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From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
The GCN Radio Network.
alex jones
Yeah, in the last segment I talked about another video coming out of police beating a woman up for asking questions politely.
And the video's been released, and the news calls it a tussle.
And time and time again, when the police assault you, that's the term that you use.
Instead of saying, paramilitary thugs brutally assault with deadly weapons an innocent person for asking questions.
No, it's always, oh, there was a tussle and the neck got broken, or there was a tussle and he died of being, well, he was tasered, but we don't know if the taser killed him or her.
Or, oh, she was handcuffed behind her back in solitary confinement at the airport, but she choked herself with the, uh, with the handcuffs.
No. And it's even wrong to call, I guess, the TSA cops.
I guess they're glorified federal security guards.
No. They've never really, I guess, grew up getting in fights or haven't read any history or don't know anything about criminology.
When you start piling on people and jumping on their heads, they start dying.
See? And then you get to be big and macho and somebody gets to die.
And then you kind of brag at the bar later about, man, I'm feeling pretty powerful.
I just murdered somebody.
They're like, darn killer.
Don't mess with Bob!
You see how you hear that crack when he jumped on his head?
I mean, that's what this country's turned into.
Don't you feel bad?
They'll murder you in England for asking questions.
They'll murder you in Canada.
You're tortured with Taser in Canada if you're caught on a bus or train without a ticket or can't get it out fast enough.
The police chief, when he got criticized in one set, he said, yeah, we punish you on the spot.
You will be tortured.
By the way, I saw in a message board story, or in one of the postings in the article, Steve Watson wrote for InfoWars.net that was posted on InfoWars.com.
You want to read the comment?
And the guy said, I like this Alex Jones guy, but he goes a little far.
Some of what he says is true, but the auxiliary police in England didn't stand by while a kid drowned in the river.
Uh, he's just making that up.
Uh, we have mainstream news articles and the police defended it and said, uh, our auxiliary officers are not trained in water rescue.
And by the way, it was slow moving, you know, river just there on the side.
There were just small children were in.
One small child went in, the brother went in to save a small sister and got, went under and died.
And they sat there like complete cowards.
And then they got commended for not saving the Child.
So don't you tell me it's not true.
Don't just sit there and go on my website and then you hear me on the radio show talking about it and then you just decide that sounds unbelievable so you just say it isn't true.
I am tired of that.
I got emails yesterday again saying, quit lying about testing of chemical weapons on our troops, it never happened.
That would be in the news.
Well listen, it was in the news Ryan, whoever you are that sent me this email, it is all over the news.
You just can't get your mind around it because it'd be scary if you found out there was a shadow government that thousands of times murders U.S. citizens, police, and military, poisons them millions of times, and then covers it up, but that it would be admitted later.
See, then you'd have to do something about that.
You'd have to admit there was scary, murderous people in control, and that would scare you, and you're a coward.
And so the ultimate coward just lies to themselves and says, it doesn't exist.
You know, when I get up here and read all the cases of the family courts that aren't real courts, with no due process, no evidence allowed to be entered, not even real courts, private agencies, seizing small children, and how they're five times more often killed, tortured, abused, and how it's in every state and federal code that the CPS And that the courts cannot go after CPS workers?
They are allowed to rape and murder and kill and they do?
You're not going to believe that because you don't want to!
You don't want to know that for 90 years they've been federally chartered and given immunity since they were originally set up to carry out eugenics against those that didn't have good racial hygiene.
You don't want to know all these horrors are going on all around you.
That'd be too scary.
It'd be too scary to know that millions of pedophiles have gone and joined the Child Protective Services.
Then criminals have joined the elder services to steal money and grab assets and exercise power.
It'd be too scary to learn that roidheads and gang members and thugs have filled the ranks of the military and convicted felons are now being hired by sheriff's departments everywhere.
It'd be too much of a concern for you.
It'd be too scary for you to admit to yourself.
But nevertheless, that reality is there whether you face it or not.
Whether you admit to it and make preparations to face it or whether you decide to say it doesn't exist.
A man with courage only dies a single death.
You die a thousand deaths.
Every single day.
Okay, let's get into the news.
Again, OPEC chief warms of unlimited oil prices of Iran attack.
Bush's secret army of snoops and snitches, TSA versus passenger tussle caught on tape, new focus of lawsuit, and you watch the video, and the woman is just saying, why are you yelling at me?
Why are you in my face?
And so they just take her and slam her head on the ground and start stomping her.
I mean, it'd be no different if I just walked up and mugged a woman.
But see, if I walked up and grabbed one by the hair and slammed her head in the wall and stomped on her on the ground, I would get in trouble.
But not Some power-hungry little troll.
You know, I better watch myself every time I fly out of Austin.
Doesn't matter which TSA person it is, they say, oh, Alex Jones, hmm, have a nice trip.
And, uh, I know some are fans because I run into them on the street.
I don't know the others, but every one of them, oh, Alex Jones, have a good trip.
Alex, where are you going?
Have fun.
And they just kind of step back and I've even been in Canada and I've been in New York and I've been in LA and run into them who know me.
Sometimes with bad effect in LA I got to be laughed at and called names and it was a celebration of evil and a celebration of tyranny and abuse and just sick.
A lot of sick people want power and they know to get a uniform.
But you can watch them beat the daylights out of this woman.
And then they call it a tussle.
No, a tussle is when two people get into a light fight.
Here, that's a tussle.
I would say, I would guess the Oxford Dictionary would be a fight that doesn't get too extreme or a fight that doesn't cause serious injuries.
Here, let's go to Google and let's type in tussle.
Let's get the definition.
Tussle. Sometimes my internet connection gets a bit slow.
T-U-S-S-L-E.
TUSSLE. Let's look at the definition of TUSSLE.
I am on the dictionary.com.
And let's look at it.
To fight or to struggle energetically.
Middle English.
Tussin, to pull.
The act of fighting.
Any consent or contest or struggle.
A fight broke up by a hockey game.
There was fighting in the streets.
The unhappy couple got into a terrible scrap.
I think of the common use of it as a lighter fight, but I guess this is associated with sports.
Fighting or a struggle in a confused way at close quarters.
The drunken man started to scuffle.
This is a fight.
This is two people hitting each other, is what it says here.
So, next time, I guess, even if you want to assault somebody, just beat the daylights out of them and the cops show up and say, what, I was just tussling.
TSA versus passenger, tussle caught on tape.
Versus passenger.
See, not just tussle, but versus, like it was a fight.
A fight, a prize fight, like they were both on equal ground.
That was a bunch of men beating the hell out of a woman, for no reason!
Legitimized by the supine, prostitute, willing accomplices in the media.
They say she was obstructing justice by arguing with them.
And so they beat the hell out of her.
Go read what they have to say.
Go read them defending beating a woman up to a pulp.
She's lucky she didn't hang herself in her cell.
Because it's about them showing you who's boss.
It's about their little ego while they're drinking sodium fluoride, while they're shooting their kids up and watching them have seizures and go into convulsions from mercury.
It's about them dying of cancer.
It's about their families dying young.
It's about being losers.
It's about being lied to.
It's about having credit card debt.
It's about living in a huddle, shoving other people around.
It's about being losers!
That's what America's about.
And that's what they want.
They want lies, and they want fraud, and they carry out lies and fraud every day, and it's carried out against them, and they love it!
They love the fact that the government hurts them, and abuses them, and allies with them, because they're spiritually dark and wicked.
What else do you call it?
I mean, you can say, oh, the team had great spirit.
You know, don't believe it?
And I'm saying the aura, the idea, the mindset is a nation begging to be plundered.
And don't worry, the new old order will give you everything you want in spades.
You like $145, $147 a barrel?
How about $200 a barrel oil?
How about $8 at the pump?
Because they know there's nothing you won't take.
They know you're there.
You're there to be pushed around.
You're there to grovel.
The troops are there to be nerve gassing, flop around dying, loving their government while the government murders them with pleasure.
The government's here to ship the heroin and cocaine in, then SWAT team your kids if they're dumb enough to use it.
Big sick joke.
It's all about corruption, all about abortion, all about corrupt prisons, all about evil.
You want evil, you got it.
unidentified
May I have everybody's attention, please?
I've come with a message of information.
9-11 was an inside job.
luke rudkowski
Do you like being a puppet, sir?
Do you like being a puppet from the New World Order?
How do the American people know that 9-11 wasn't staged, wasn't engineered by you, David Rockefeller, the Trilateral Commission, the CFR?
unidentified
The day that we stop asking questions is the day that we have allowed the seeds of despotism to grow at our own door.
Seven years after the attacks of September 11th, a global awakening has taken place.
An inside job...
How dare you?
If you know that there's treason going on, you can be held accountable for treason yourself.
alex jones
All hell is breaking loose on 6th Avenue.
unidentified
And if the government has not told the truth in five years, we will be here on the 10th anniversary of...
Truth Rising.
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You hear that guitar?
That's in tune.
I think Genesis is the place where anybody who has an untuned guitar cuts these ads.
The guy with the untold story needs to tune his guitar, and so does the Hemp USA guy.
I mean, it's like a joke.
unidentified
I can't help anymore.
alex jones
I mean, hell, bring me a guitar in here.
I can't even play it.
It tortures Weldon in there, because he's a pretty good guitar player and got his own band.
Tortures me, too.
I'm just joking, folks.
unidentified
I just...
alex jones
It really does disrespect the show, though.
It does.
There's no standards.
God help us.
unidentified
Alright, alright.
alex jones
I'm out of control.
I realize that.
Just listen a little bit to this song.
I scream and yell at people.
It's because I'm upset, folks.
We got hardcore crooks running things.
Our whole society's going into deep tyranny.
And tyranny isn't cute, folks.
Millions of dead bodies and piles of, you know, rotten bodies and men in black ski masks dancing around isn't fun.
So just go ahead and listen to this.
unidentified
This is for you, CIA, FBI, Secret Service, who's over here every week.
alex jones
Just listen to it.
unidentified
I ain't no millionaire, son.
It ain't me, no.
It ain't me, no.
I ain't the fortunate one.
Some folks are not.
And here it starts playing the line.
Only to send you off to war.
And when you ask them, how much should you get?
alex jones
They say more!
unidentified
They tell you more and more.
More, more, more!
alex jones
Give me five tours!
I want you to breathe, D.U., and take deadly shots.
We're going to spray nerve gas on you.
I want you to die!
I'm your government, I love you!
Serve me!
There's nothing you schmucks won't give me!
unidentified
I'm the New World Order, and I drink up your substance!
it out!
alex jones
Shippin' the drugs into our kids!
unidentified
Get off our backs!
Stop pushin' and pushin' and pushin'!
alex jones
Your masters have got you in a trap you can't even figure it out.
They plan on us killin' each other instead of uniting!
Against the New World Order.
Yeah, this is Real Talk Radio, ladies and gentlemen.
I had some twit last week send me an email going, that's the name of somebody else's show.
No, that person absconded with my name.
I have ten-year-old t-shirts with Real Talk Radio on it.
unidentified
That's the name of my radio show!
alex jones
A show dedicated to fighting the New World Order!
A radio show dedicated to not pulling punches, and not mincing words, and not holding back.
I gotta settle down.
I gotta stop getting mad.
I just, I'm calm all day.
I research this stuff all day.
I study it.
I learn more and more.
I see what's happening in our society, and then I get on air, and I blow up.
And I need to stop doing it.
This is not good for me.
Plus, I got a lot of stuff I want to cover.
But, I mean, you read this.
OPEC chief warns of unlimited oil prices if Iran attacked.
The head of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries warned Thursday that oil prices would see an unlimited increase in the case of a military conflict involving Iran because the group's members would be unable to make up the lost production.
We already cannot replace Iran's production.
It's not feasible to replace it.
Abdallah Saleem Al-Bahari, the OPEC Secretary General, said in an interview...
By the way, did you go read that full press release a new one put out last night by them?
And it says, the dollar is continuing to drop, please shore it up.
We are doing you a favor, holding your dollars.
Go read it!
But you'll never see it in the media here, because you can't let the slave cattle in their slaughter pens know.
The stupid cows licking the hand of the black glove in the New World Order, loving those, they're gonna be butchering them.
Iran, the second largest production country, In OPEC, after Saudi Arabia produces about 4 million barrels of oil a day, out of the daily worldwide production of close to 87 million barrels.
The United States is using 20 million plus a day, by the way.
The country has been locked in a lengthy dispute with Western nations over its nuclear ambitions.
In recent weeks, the price of oil has risen higher on speculation that Israel could be preparing to mount an attack on the country's nuclear facilities.
The Sabre Rattling intensified this week with missile tests by Iran.
Come back, get into all the war news, the financial news.
It's all completely linked and excrepably merged.
We'll be right back.
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unidentified
I wish your butt was still silver.
It was back when the country was strong.
Back before Elvis, before the Vietnam War came along.
Amen.
Before the Beatles and yesterday.
When a man could still work, still would.
Is the best of the free life behind us now?
And are the good times really over for good?
And are we rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell?
With no kind of chance for the flag or the liberty bell.
I want to go I wish a Ford and a Chevy would still last ten years like they should.
It's the best of the free life behind us now.
And all that good time's really over for good.
Thank you.
I wish Coke was still cola in a joint.
It was a bad place to be.
And it was back before Nick's light news all on TV. Before microwave ovens when a girl could still cook and still would.
It's the best of the free life behind us now.
Or the good times really over for good.
you I like the last line by Merle.
alex jones
Quit rolling downhill.
Well, we gotta stop it.
unidentified
And watching cops beat a woman up...
alex jones
For no reason.
And then say that she was tussling with them.
Insulting your intelligence.
You know, you wish Fords and Chevys wouldn't fall apart.
How about you wish they wouldn't go out of business or move to Mexico?
See how it's getting worse and worse?
I mean, Merle thought it was bad back in the 70s?
This is nothing.
Folks, the dollar is dying.
They're going to use military conflict to cover that, either the threat of military conflict or conflict.
Rice warns Iran, U.S. will defend Israel.
French news agency, U.S. Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, warned Iran on Thursday that Washington had beefed up its security presence in the Gulf and would not hesitate to defend Israel and other allies in the region.
We will defend American interest.
In the interest of our allies, Rice said, answering a question on an Iranian threat to set fire to Israel.
Notice how even the French News spends that.
If you read the quote, they took two words out of it.
They said, if you attack us, Israel will burn.
If Israel attacks us, we will strike back with a blitzkrieg attack and they will burn.
Doesn't matter the average French person, the average Brit, the average American.
Here's... Man, Iran for no reason said they'd set fire to Israel.
Meanwhile, every day, I have a stack of news here, mainstream news, where the White House again is running four different Sunni al-Qaeda groups in Iran with U.S. Special Forces commanding them.
U.S. Special Forces for five years have been shooting and killing and bombing inside.
They have real terrorists in Iran.
And, of course, it's the people from our nation.
I mean, and Iran is suing the U.S., begging, please stop, don't do this, don't attack us with thousands of fighter-bombers, flights by fighter-bombers, thousands of flights.
Iran sent an open letter to the United States, to the Congress last night, saying, listen, you're running terror attacks in our country, please stop bombing our mosque, please stop attacking our dams, please stop shooting our police and military.
Listen, Your inspectors have been here.
We don't have nukes.
Everybody knows that.
Besides, Israel has them.
Why aren't we allowed to have them, even if we were?
But we've submitted to you.
You know, they had a moderate government that had the UN totally running them, which gives into the New World Order, whether you like it or not.
And that's why they put in a more extreme government, because the U.S. said, we're going to attack you.
We're going to go ahead and still come after you, even though you've done everything we said.
And they said, but that's not reasonable.
The people running our country said, we've overthrown you several times.
We put a government in that tortured more than 300,000 of you to death with Savak.
Shut up!
Shut up!
You will submit and we will bomb you and your kids will take the inoculations, we say, and you will let our central bank run you.
Either you let us kill you that way or we'll kill you this way.
You are gonna die just like the Serbs.
Just like the Afghans.
Just like our people are being poisoned right now.
You will lovingly lick the barrel of the gun and cram it in your mouth and beg us to pull the trigger.
Do you understand, scum?
You will be slaves just like our scum.
You will learn to be ignorant morons.
We will break your family up.
We will kidnap your children with CPS and we will rape them like we do in Serbia now.
You will be our slaves.
We will make snuff films with your children.
We are the demon force.
We are the Satan force.
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We are the Satan force.
alex jones
Now ladies and gentlemen, gold has exploded more than $15 today in opening.
All the major gold news from CNBC to Bloomberg say this looks like the beginning of the run up into the thousands.
I don't know.
I just know the dollar is plunging.
I've got it all right here.
Just the news is all too insane.
Congress passes warrantless wiretapping.
No Fourth Amendment.
I want to bring Tim Larson up, who's up in the Genesis studios, and Ted, who is outside the office right now.
Ted Anderson, owner of Genesis and Midas Resources, the parent company.
I guess they're interlocked together.
One is the parent of the other.
They're twins.
But you could say Midas gave birth to Genesis.
That's... That's, uh...
So I guess parent is the proper term.
Uh, but, uh, and, uh, Tim Larson there for more than a decade.
He is, of course, their chief, uh, metals analyst.
Writes a lot about that.
Great info.
And we've got them both up for the next ten minutes on the economy.
Then I'm gonna take your calls, and Dr. Doug Rocky's gonna be joining us about the troops dying of depleted uranium.
He wrote the book on it, so I want everybody to hear this.
Uh, but let's go ahead and go to, uh, Tim Larson.
Tim, gold is up.
Last time I checked up, 15 bucks.
Where is it right now?
unidentified
Last I looked, it was up about 13. And silver is up another almost 20 cents again.
You know, it's just with what's going on with the credit markets out there, you can't keep it down.
They can try and manipulate it as much as possible during the summer months, but it's just not happening.
alex jones
And for those that don't know, the summer months are normally the downtime, but now Uh, we are, uh, I mean, we've never seemed up like this in the summer.
Let's bring Ted Anderson in.
Ted, what do you think's gonna happen here?
unidentified
Well, I can tell you right now, Alex, I'm sitting here in, uh, Central America, and people are South American.
People are trying to get away from the dollar here.
They're no longer accepting the dollar in a lot of the transactions.
And you know, it used to be that these countries were, were hurting, and, uh, and they wanted to turn to the dollar.
right now they want to be for many of the transactions or didn't take it the world currency you've had to take the dollar in reserve world currency is really come to an end and that means that the united states that is going to continue to grow we have to continue to finance it through the federal system to expect it was bad news for the u_s_ economy That's right, Ted.
alex jones
You're down in Buenos Aires right now.
And that's why I wanted to get you on.
They are running from the dollar there.
New York City, Chicago, L.A. are now advertising they take Euros.
They want Euros.
unidentified
Well, you know, and the Argentine peso, you know, that currency alone, I mean, it's just obviously we've seen the destruction down here.
I mean, the inflation is just ridiculous.
But now they're looking at the United States dollar.
We're having the same problems.
The United States dollar is losing that attraction by the world.
And that's what's going to cost, you know, the United States has been living on this 20, 30 year extended period of time where we could, you know, deficit spend and then just sell our U.S. government securities to foreign nations.
And we're not doing that now.
The United States government is turning to printing money to solve the problem rather than selling it to foreigners.
And rather than having earned money coming into the system, Money is being dumped into the system and commodities are going up.
Gas prices and oil prices are going up here as well.
So, you know, there's no question about it, Alex.
Right now, at this time, the United States dollar is in big trouble.
alex jones
Well, you're absolutely right.
Tim Larson, how fast do you see the bottom falling out of this?
unidentified
No, it's falling off awfully quickly.
I mean, let's look at the credit markets right now.
I mean, they're in shambles.
You've got just the S&P in itself.
There's 85 financial components in the S&P, and they've lost $1.4 trillion since last October.
And that's all by itself.
You've got shares of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that lost over 20% on Monday itself.
Now, yesterday, Fannie Mae was down 13%, Freddie Mac was down 23%.
I mean, over the past 12 months, they're both down almost 90%.
And this is all money that's coming from bad loans.
And it's not going to stop.
So now, the government still has to print that money to finance all of this.
Now there's talk that the government's gonna try and bail out Freddie and Fannie.
Well, it's not gonna happen.
alex jones
And that means further devaluation, only putting off the inevitable, while devaluing the currency, driving up prices, as oil and every other commodity from corn to gold skyrockets.
Ted, specifically, you're down there in Argentina, you're down there in South America, right by Brazil, and that's what I'm seeing in the news, is that they're running from the dollar, which was absolute king there forever, for the last hundred years, How are they behaving?
What are they doing?
What are they saying when you talk to them?
What are they saying when you try to pay for things with it?
unidentified
Well, that's the thing.
I mean, half of the transactions, they'll still take U.S. currency in many of the transactions.
But now, as it changes things, some of the transactions are no longer being accepted in U.S. dollar.
You have to go to the Argentine peso, which that currency is just, you know, we all know that's just toilet paper.
And the United States dollar has taken on that same position.
Obviously, the euro is gaining a lot of strength while the dollar is losing a lot.
But like Tim was saying, every time we have an economic problem, the United States government is turning to try to solve the problem by turning the Federal Reserve System.
And we have this unconstitutional paper system.
You know, people call it the U.S. dollar.
It's not the U.S. dollar.
It's Citibank's dollar.
It's Chase Manhattan's dollars, Wells Fargo.
It's this private cartel of bankers that basically set up a system that put us into perpetual debt.
And now we're seeing the consequences of it, and it's compounding.
It's getting worse.
And it's getting worse fast.
In the United States, we cannot get off on this credit binge.
We keep on turning to our politicians to solve our problems, and they keep turning to the Federal Reserve.
alex jones
Well, when Ted gets back from his trip with his fiancé to Argentina, I want to have you in studio next week, Ted, to really break down what's happening with the dollar when you were down in South America.
But getting back to what's happening with gold right now, again, dead time of the year, always in the middle of summer, normally the doldrums.
Flat as a pancake, we're going down in history, skyrocketing right now, and now all the majors are talking about gold exploding even further.
Ted, you've got gold again locked in at what it was a week ago, lower than it is now.
I don't know how long you can hold at this, but people need to call Tim Larson at Midas Resources in the same building as Genesis right now because you can get semi-numismatic coins at very near melt for bullion prices That's a deal you can't beat.
What's the offer today, Ted?
unidentified
Yeah, currently right now we have gold.
I'm locked in at $9.26 an ounce.
Right now I'm looking at gold at $9.48, and silver's at $18.34.
$17 silver I have in here, too.
I'm selling those Walking Liberty hats for the same price I was last time I was on the air with you.
They're at $189.20.
That's a great buy on the silver.
And we also have the British Sovereign at $257.
And we have the French Swiss franc, Belgium franc, there's a mixture of European countries that make the franc coin, and they're at 205.
Again, this stuff is priced at the level when gold was sitting down at 926.
I mean, if you take a look at that French franc, I mean, it's practically right at spot.
So is that British sovereign.
Those rolls of silver halves are, you know, Just a short time ago, I couldn't even get Rolls Silver, have Silver Dollars, all these different things.
Silver was basically gone.
It was done.
I know we're heading toward this fall, and it's coming up fast, and usually it's August that things start picking up, but we're sitting here in July, which is typically a slow month, and it is going hot.
It's hot as a pistol right now.
alex jones
Ted, I know you're always careful, and you really go conservative with your statements.
I want to ask you, and then Tim Larson at Midas.
Do you think gold is going to crest above $1,000 by September?
unidentified
I'll go ahead and add my two cents in.
I would say October.
We're going to get over gold at $1,000 an ounce by October, and I'm being conservative about that.
I would not be surprised at all if we have $1,000 an ounce gold, even by the end of August.
And that's just because watching what had happened last year, and it's all about the speculators.
When are they going to be coming in?
How much are they going to be buying?
How tight are the supplies of gold and silver?
And how far will it be, you know, pushed up?
Let's be clear.
alex jones
Let's be clear.
For the last couple of years, we have had the IMF and World Bank dumping hundreds of billions of gold in the market at underpriced, trying to drive it down.
And, Tim, they're out of bullets, just like they're out of bullets with cutting interest rates.
They can't suppress the price of gold anymore.
Do you agree with that statement, Tim?
unidentified
Most definitely.
I mean, it was back, like, in 1999 when the Bank of England said they were going to dump 410 tons of gold onto the market.
Well, they never did that.
I mean, basically, they make a statement like that.
First of all, it disgraces gold because the central bank is no longer using it as a monetary instrument, and they think 410 tons is going to flood the market.
So gold dropped.
Oh, I'd say it would drop $45 in three days.
And that was back when it was at about $2.60.
Now, last year, you had the Bundesbank say they were going to dump 600 tons onto the market.
Well, they don't even have 600 tons.
But gold dropped about $8 in one day, and it was back up $12 the next day.
The tricks they're using aren't working any longer.
alex jones
Final segment with both of you.
Ted Anderson from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Down there at the bottom of the world, close to Antarctica.
I'd love to be able to travel.
Dad's never been there.
He's there now, though.
I'd love to go down there myself.
I've seen some travel video down there, just so gorgeous.
Tim Larson, Ted Anderson will come back and wrap up our discussion of what's happening with the economy.
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I can jump up and down, pull my hair out, stand on my head.
If you don't get into precious metals and physically hold them, and at least convert some of your Federal Reserve notes, some of your stocks and bonds, I mean, gold has crippled in price the last five years.
Close to quadrupled from what 260 something dollars an ounce that it's low and You've got the stock market all inflated, but it's even down though people are buying stocks with inflated dollars We are sitting on top a powder keg that basically the Great Depression was one stick of dynamite We're sitting on an entire warehouse of dynamite every indicator every societal input Everything
you put into the equation, it is dire straits.
And I hate the New World Order.
I love having people not put their kids in government training camps.
I love people stop drinking fluoride.
I love to get people to buy firearms and learn how to use them.
I love to expose a corrupt government.
And I also love to put gold and silver in your hands, and I love to bring you great offers like the one Ted's bringing you here.
This is a great deal.
Ted, I think, gets about 3%, 4% on these coins, just enough to pay his brokers.
These are loss leaders, you know, things to get you introduced to precious metals.
And so Ted can send you out a newsletter.
Just give Ted a call at 1-800-686-2237.
1-800-686-2237. And they've got about, what, about a week turnaround shipping you this stuff out.
A lot of places don't have this in their holdings.
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Ted has it in stock, the offers he's making to you today.
1-800-686-2237.
In closing, Tim Larson, with everything you've seen, do you think we're going to be able to avert a depression, or do you think we're just going to go all the way into it?
unidentified
No, we're going to go straight into a global depression.
As a matter of fact, I mean, the BIS has been Warning people about that since the middle of last year, for God's sakes.
I mean, we've got the plunge protection team right now with the financial markets the way they are.
You've got the plunge protection team having to put in money.
Constantly. Every day.
You've got the dollars lost 40% of its value in the last three and a half years.
People in the stock market right now, they're not gaining on that.
They're losing money.
You're going backwards, because you've got inflation at 13-14% a year right now.
alex jones
But we're a nation of denial, and so people don't want to believe it.
Basically, we're like a rowboat in the ocean, and there's a hole in the boat, and people are...
You know, the Federal Reserve is basically dumping more money into the boat, but that's water out of the same ocean.
It's really just going to sink us that much faster.
I mean, this is just unbelievable.
And, Tim, do you run into anybody in Minnesota that knows the dollars devalued?
I do every now and again, but I start with a simple question.
unidentified
I ask these people, what do you think inflation is per year?
And they look at what they buy, and they look at everything that they buy.
They look at electronics.
And vehicles.
Well, nobody's selling vehicles.
They can't go up in price.
Electronics, they're coming down in price because those are all coming from China.
Now you've got all the things you have to have to live off of.
You've got food, energy, insurance costs, you name it.
All of that is skyrocketing.
Now you can give people a challenge and say, go through your checkbook three years ago and write down everything you paid for you had to have to live.
Now do it from last year and they're going to see that inflation.
alex jones
They're going to see 20, 30, 40 percent if they're looking at fuel.
Exactly. I mean, we've seen a doubling the last year and a half and a doubling before that.
1-800-686-2237.
Ted, give them those coins again.
Tell them the coin offers.
unidentified
Again, it's the Walking Liberty half.
They come in rolls of 20. They're at $189.20.
With the British Sovereign coin, it's $257.
The franc coin.
This one's an easy one to do the math on.
It's $2.05.
alex jones
Stay there.
One minute.
We'll be back.
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alex jones
The head of OPEC and the Associated Press says if something happens here, nobody will be able to solve it, referring to war involving Iran.
He said oil could go to an unlimited level.
Thousands and thousands of dollars per barrel.
And notice our government, using environmentalists as their front, won't let you have the oil out of the Gulf, out of Alaska.
They're giving out limited permits in the Gulf.
We are swimming in oil, but they have artificially suppressed it.
And now they are raking us over the coals in the perfect storm.
Can't get more oil.
Devaluing the dollar.
And it is now completely unraveling our economy.
And the world is holding dollars.
It's a time bomb in the hold of all of their Uh, ships of state, you know, seeing countries as, you know, floating economic, uh, communities upon the, uh, world's ocean of trade, and in the belly of all their ships they have a huge time bomb sticking called the dollar.
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Tell your people you're destroying it!
Meanwhile, the American people smiling, have no idea what's going on, stumbling around talking about speculators.
Yeah, maybe 25% of the oil increase is speculation, but that's because everybody's running, dumping their dollars.
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And I'm not trying to scare you folks, this is the facts.
Our government is run by crooks that are forcibly bringing us into World War III.
They want to bring the world down in a world crisis, just like the engineered World War I and World War II, Carol Quigley, Bill Clinton's mentor, said.
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And those two got them two steps of the way.
The final step is now being implemented.
Order out of chaos, is their motto.
I want to go back to that offer one more time, but Tim Larson analyzing this for decades, working at Midas for 10 years, Chief Metals Analyst.
Ted said he thinks it'll go above 1,000.
That's very conservative, folks.
That's sure thing.
By October, where do you think sure thing gold is going to go?
I mean, in your gut.
I know you can't say officially.
You don't have a crystal ball, but I mean, where do you see it going?
I mean, Bloomberg saying 5,000.
I don't believe that.
unidentified
I see seven, eight thousand, but that's after the banks fail, but I'm seeing probably a thousand dollars by the end of maybe August.
alex jones
When does the Titanic break in two?
I mean, when does it go fully under the water?
unidentified
Well, like I say, as soon as these countries do not want dollar-denominated assets any longer.
They don't want to buy our debt any longer.
alex jones
Let's be clear.
They begged and begged for us to sure it up.
We didn't, but overnight, I'd say the last six months, they said, okay, dump it, dump it, okay?
You want it?
We're getting out of it.
Do you agree with that analysis, Tim?
unidentified
Oh, most definitely.
I see that happening on a constant basis.
And they don't want it.
And, you know, like I say, there's going to be panic selling in our debt instruments, which is our bonds and treasuries, etc., etc.
It'll create panic selling.
It'll collapse the banking system because the money's not there.
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And that's why they're gearing up for martial law, and they'll give you a terror attack to emotionally make you think that they're the good guys while they rape you.
Ted, give out that last offer, that last gold coin again.
unidentified
Again, it's the, Frank, it's that 205.
If you think about it right now, gold's at $9.50.
alex jones
You can't be there.
unidentified
And you multiply this one by four, you get a, this coin is at 205 right now, and you multiply that by five, and that gets you to $1,000.
It's only $50 above the spot.
I mean, that's just a fabulous buying gold, and it's small.
I don't know why anybody would want to stay in the paper currencies.
It's crazy.
I think people should be getting...
alex jones
Well, it's an easy coin to get in at 205.
You get a fifth of an ounce of gold or get the British quarter ounces.
Can't beat it.
I mean, that really is the coin right there.
1-800-686-2237.
Hey, Ted, it's a win-win situation.
We're throwing them a life raft.
Helps us out a little bit.
Keeps the network going.
I mean, if they won't take a life raft when the Titanic's going under the North Atlantic, I don't know.
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Tim Larson, Ted Anderson, thanks for talking to us.
unidentified
Thanks, Ellis.
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We'll be right back with Dr. Doug Rockey.
Ted, thank you.
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I played a TV clip out of Australia Mainstream news Where in the 60s, the United States government, offering IMF and World Bank funds and loans and military assistance to Australia, said if you want this assistance, we want you to start off by spraying sarin and VX nerve gas on 200 troops.
We want you to kill them.
Now they've done this in the US, they've done this in England.
They had thousands of tests.
Some cases, they'd have gas masks on them.
Some cases, they'd have a faulty gas mask.
Other cases, no gas mask.
Other cases, they'd have a cloth mask to see what would happen.
And they'd never tell the troops what it was for.
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We're just testing a flu bug or a cold bug.
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And these guys thought their countries were good.
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Now, in other cases, US troops didn't even sign waivers.
They just did it.
U.S. citizens in the subways in the 60s, 68, and the 70s being sprayed.
Citizens died that have army doctors posing as regular doctors at nearby hospitals to help cover up what was happening, but also get readings on what the, in that one case, the unclassified that just report people died.
Biological agent released from light bulbs, fake light bulbs, released a mist.
They look like light bulbs.
You know, releasing repeated bioweapons hundreds of times.
One of their favorite places is the San Francisco Ship Channel.
They love releasing it there, 45, 46, 50s, 70s, 80s.
Again, they had a bioweapons test and chemical weapons test.
We knew the Army was in town.
They did psyops of fake nuke spills.
They hit the downtown cops with something, and they passed out and collapsed.
Then they hit the state police office.
And that bunch of them got sick.
I mean, they're just doing it all around us.
And I thought, why not have Dr. Doug Rockey on?
Because I had seen him with a new article that was up on Infowars.com.
And we'll tell you, the original site, it was posted on by him.
So you can visit there and see his other papers and reports.
He was the head of the Pentagon's depleted uranium program.
I mean, he ran the studies.
He wrote the books.
You know, he was their nuclear physicist, PhD, medical.
Uh, I mean, he's got a bunch of degrees.
It goes on and on.
And, uh, he was their expert.
And then he went in, and was ordered to clean up the stuff in Iraq, and was ordered to do it improperly, and he knew it was improper.
Then he watched his buddies die, and others die, and since then, they've just said, you're not allowed to hand out the old training films or manuals.
The troops are told it's not bad for you.
They're using it at proving grounds all over the U.S. and in protectorates and holdings, possessions.
They're using it, uh, in a bunch of different war zones.
It's now not just in Vulcan guns and A-10s or Abrams Sabo rounds, the M1A1 tanks, it's now in Bradley fighting vehicle guns, it's now in light arms, 50 cals, they're now serving it out in 308s, 223, serving it out in mortars, they're serving it out in hellfires, they're serving it out in hundreds of munitions, and this reaches a level of insanity, and top generals go and stay in palaces that were hit with it too.
I mean, it is a death cult, is all you can call it.
I mean, it is wanton insanity, and there's no debating it.
And I've had troops call me, send me emails, say, well, I'm in a neighborhood's tank and I wear a radiation badge.
And by the way, my dad's a dentist and oral surgeon, you know, and I've worked as a dental assistant.
I've been in hospitals.
Those radiation badges are for another type of radiation.
Okay? But, to fool them when they're with his DU, they give him these badges.
It's a sick joke to even a radiologist, much less a nuclear physicist.
Or a mechanical quantum physicist.
Anybody a physicist who understands this.
It is an insult to anyone's intelligence.
So we have the world expert really on.
The Pentagon called him the world expert on it.
And he has had a lot of health problems from it.
He's had a lot of buddies die from it.
But now, Because of the proliferation of these weapons, it is getting into water tables in the U.S., Hawaii, Puerto Rico, when the citizens come out and protest, SWAT teams just fire on them with rubber bullets and literally break jaws, break heads, while the idiot cops are breathing it right there on the seashore.
And I'm not against you cops, I love you, but you're idiots!
Stop attacking us for trying to...
I'm sorry, I'm digressing.
Dr. Doug Rocky, I thought I'd get him on and first ask Good afternoon, Alex. Absolutely.
dr doug rokke
I mean, it's just staggering.
We have to understand that Uranium munitions, you know, the United States gave it to Israel, and they used them in 1973 and 74 against the Egyptians.
And they were extraordinarily effective.
And look, the catastrophic mess in the Sinai Desert still remains with all the health problems.
That's totally verified and documented.
And then, you know, we did it in Desert Storm, which was an incredible mess, and as a consequence, you know, Schwarzkopf said, well, hey, Doug, go clean it up.
And, well, we never can clean it up.
We know that.
As you said, we went on to do all the research.
What we learned and what I learned over all the years of being the Army's expert is that you can't use uranium munitions because there's absolutely no way to completely, thoroughly clean it up.
And there is really no known medical cure to treat it, and that's been known going back to 1943 that we can verify.
But you have the uranium munitions continued use, as you said.
It's one of the most astonishing things.
I mean, the beginning of, you know, Operation Iraqi Freedom, you know, we lost an Abrams tank with a friendly fire from a.50 cal DU round.
You know, it's who would ever thought that a.50 cal machine gun, a rifle, could take out an Abrams tank?
But it did.
And it continues on to this day.
And then, I mean, you're leading on Project Shad.
Project Shad is continuing, unabated.
I mean, back to the school bay guy, I've had to clean that up on military installations.
We've had smoke, we've had everything all over across the nation.
And then the other funny thing is, guess where the salmonella's coming from?
You know, hey, that's not in tomatoes, guys.
That's from feces.
Somebody had to put it in there deliberately.
It doesn't get up there.
alex jones
The aliens are crapping all over the food.
Everybody knows it.
dr doug rokke
Yeah, I think so.
You know, somebody will come up with that.
But in the meantime, we have hundreds of thousands of casualties from Operation Desert Storm.
We have hundreds of thousands of casualties from Operation Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom.
And there's well over 200,000 dead.
I mean, the lead story on Army Times again today, and it just came in the mail, is one of the medics who was over there and rescued this child in the middle of a firefight that should have never happened because we were attacking Iraqis.
You know, it's sort of like, we went in there to give them their freedom, but we're attacking them.
What's wrong with this picture?
And, you know, he committed suicide because, again, you he never got the care he needed, you know, deliberately and delayed and denied and totally ineffective medical care.
alex jones
Well, that's another example.
In World War II, you served one tour, Vietnam one tour, now five tours, and they just don't care.
I mean, there's an attitude of the government acts like nothing's going to exist soon.
They act like it's the end.
They act like, I mean, before elites were corrupt, but they had some concern for the future.
And going back to Shad, one of many operations, we know there's a lot of other secret ones.
What do you think it was when the army was in town and police were collapsing it on the streets and in their offices, and then they would announce weird nuclear spills and the army would shut things down?
That was in 2000.
What do you think that was, Dr. Rocky?
dr doug rokke
Oh, I'm not sure, but, you know, it was a lot of nasty stuff, and then the 3,000 Marines just went into Indianapolis and were pulling all kinds of nasties off, too.
So, I mean, but this goes back, goes back many, many years.
I mean, I got directly involved in it in the middle of the 90s when we were Planning the not-lethal force and the martial law and the, you know, going into overthrow.
And we actually set up, we had a full facility, a community, a town at Fort McClellan, Alabama, where we tried all this stuff out.
Sadly, I got involved until I saw the light.
alex jones
I want to hear about that.
You've done so much.
But as you said, new information on the DU.
But before we get into that, I want to understand, because you were in there planning, you were involved in a lot of this stuff.
Um, you know, until the light bulb finally clicked and it's like, it's like you've been sleepwalking.
Why am I doing this?
Why am I involved in this, uh, Dr. Rocky?
Uh, what is the mindset?
I mean, obviously I've read some of their documents that they tell you we're testing this biological or chemical or radiological weapon on our own troops and killing them in many cases on the spot, not just later from the after effects.
Uh, but, but, Higher-ups, it's to test and see if your military doctors and military planners will hurt their own people to create cadres who they know will do even more horrible things in the future, like carry out a 9-11, Dr. Rocky?
dr doug rokke
Absolutely. I mean, it's a mindset.
We have to understand the myth has been propagated so extensively, and I want to come back to it because it's really part of it.
The myth has been propagated that there's an enemy out there that has the capability to invade and overthrow our government and, you know, suspend our cherished rights that we have.
But the only one that's actually doing anything to suspend our cherished rights is the President of the United States.
He's getting ready to sign a bill today on wiretapping and he's dropping it.
Totally illegal.
alex jones
And he says he, quote, relishes it.
He says he relishes it, is the quote.
Go ahead.
dr doug rokke
Yeah, and it's flat wrong.
You know, so we've had this myth, and when you look at the myth, and I had to really sit down and look at this because of, you know, my own medical problems and trying to get medical care for all of the work I did in the military and the combat actions and research and everything else, which is, you know, forget it, nobody can get it.
I just kind of looked at the myth, and when I really analyzed it and came out and said, okay, when is the last time that the United States had a viable enemy that had the capability to overthrow our government, Suspend our Bill of Rights and do anything to us, and the answer was never.
I mean, you know, we've gone into Iraq and Afghanistan.
We're getting ready to go into Iran.
I mean, it's momentary.
alex jones
Well, the Founding Fathers said that.
They said if the public's armed, no one in the world can overtake us.
If we fall, it will be from treason and subterfuge within.
dr doug rokke
Well, absolutely, and I think this, you know, the upholding of the Second Amendment, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, was just probably the most incredible thing that's ever going to save this nation.
I mean, that decision that was just made in the last few weeks is incredible.
But what we have to understand is the military has told this myth that, you know, these guys are coming and they're going to jump out of your cereal box.
They're coming out of the sewer drain.
And it's not going to happen.
And it hasn't happened.
And then we go over and we attack and then we invade and we destroy and we kill and we maim and we contaminate.
And we do this all in this myth that we're providing them freedom.
alex jones
Stay there, stay there, Dr. Doug Ronke.
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All sorts of black ops, you name it.
Their DU expert wrote the manuals for the Pentagon and the Army on it.
All right, Doc, continuing with, you were getting into the mindset, what we're facing.
I don't want to get into the new developments with DU. You?
dr doug rokke
Well, you know, the mindset is in the military, and this is the hardest thing that I had to come to grips with because I was involved in it, is the mindset in the military is how do we kill and how do we destroy effectively?
And when we're going to kill and we're going to destroy and wound, the John Wayne or the Rambo thing comes into play.
You yourself think you're immune.
And you're going to use the most effective tool and most effective weapon that you have with complete, total disregard for your own health, total disregard for the type of casualties you generate and the medical care that's available, and complete, total disregard for the environment.
I mean, it's kill and destroying in the abstract sense.
alex jones
And it feels great while you're in raw American flags on your shoulder, but then, when you're dying of cancer and you want medical care, they're going to say, you're just fine, soldier.
dr doug rokke
Yeah, and that's what's happened today.
For example, I mean, literally, I just got the mail out of the mailbox, okay?
And I've got the summary data total for the casualty data for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom as of July 2nd.
I mean, this came in the mail.
I took it out of the mail 20 minutes ago, okay?
As of July 2nd, in Iraq, we have 4,105 that have been killed in action, and we have 30,314 that have been wounded in action.
Afghanistan, as of July 2nd, we have 533 that have been killed in action, and 2,167 have been wounded in action.
But that's not the real story.
Because the majority of the casualties in the report that I have is from January, so it's six months old.
And this is analysis of E.A. healthcare utilization among U.S. Global War Terrorism veterans, Operation Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom.
And when we look at the VA data that's six months old, it states very, very clearly, okay, and I want to re-emphasize, very, very clearly, 39% of all former active duty troops have sought medical care because of serious medical problems, and 36% of all the individuals in the Reserve and the National Guard that have been deployed, this all since 2002, have I've sought medical care.
It's incredible.
alex jones
Also, the suicide rates I was seeing, where it was something like 18 times the previous record.
I saw that in the mainstream news a few weeks ago.
dr doug rokke
Well, you've got a combination of suicide and murders.
And we've got to look at what is happening, because there have been so many murders.
It's incredible.
I mean, you know, Rila highlighted right now another murder of a pregnant female soldier out on the East Coast.
But when we look at the medical problems, they're absolutely verified, totally verified by the Department of Veterans Affairs six months ago.
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2,611 confirmed malignant cancers.
11,000 benign cancers.
61,000 metabolic problems.
6,194 blood problems.
And this is leukemias and everything else.
120,049 with a PTSD, and we need to come back to that.
98,741 with serious neurological problems.
Now, we know the neurological problems are directly related to two things this time around, as it was before.
Pesticides and nerve agents, chemical weapons, and uranium munitions.
Absolutely, totally, directly related.
And, I mean, I've got all kinds of neurological problems, and, you know, the doctors are totally confirming that from DU.
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Now respiratory is the first thing that's affected with uranium exposure, same thing with pesticides.
So what we're seeing is these young kids are dropping dead from cardiac problems and respiratory problems all over the place.
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And what we're seeing is the whole digestive system has just gone to mush, sort of like jello.
alex jones
Well, I was just going to point out that I scan all the news and local news, not all, but a good part of it, and people send it to me.
Every day, if I look, I see little stories where a guy in Kansas, a guy in Texas, upstate New York, they're 25 years old, they just come home, and suddenly everything falls apart.
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And then they just say, oh, we don't know why he died.
dr doug rokke
Well, we know exactly what's happening, the diseases to the skin, the rashes.
I mean, my rash is opening and bleeding right now, Alex.
It has not healed since it started 24 hours after I started doing the cleanup of the DU with the ground war in 1991.
It's opening in Bolivia as we talk, right now.
And, you know, and I've got problems all over now, you know, I call them, well, how about wound management?
Well, you know, bye-bye, go away.
Um, so rashes, incredible numbers.
Muscular skeletal system, connective tissue.
Now this, the diagnosis for the formal diagnosis with this, with the disability is fibromyalgia.
alex jones
Stay there, sir.
We'll be back in three minutes.
Long segment with Dr. Doug Rocky.
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The situation with DU has gotten far worse.
They're serving it out to everybody now.
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I apologize for interrupting.
I just think of every, want to back up everything he's saying.
You were going through the list of things that are happening to the troops and the true holocaust that we're witnessing, and we're not even getting the numbers on the contractors.
In cases, that's even worse.
But I want to first digress, go back to an earlier question we didn't get answered.
Can you walk through why DU is so deadly, and then explain its type of radiation versus Uh, you know, why they're giving Abrams drivers these radiation badges and saying, see, it's not bad for you.
dr doug rokke
Yeah. Okay, first off, uranium munitions are the byproduct of the enrichment process by which the U.S. Department of Energy extracts fissionable isotopes to make, uh, nuclear weapons and, uh, nuclear fuel for reactors, okay? Now, for every, say, and again, I'm gonna put this percentage-wise, for every 100 pounds That goes into the process.
99.4 pounds comes out as pure waste.
There's only 0.6 pounds out of every 100 pounds of this pure stuff that goes in that can be made, that's fissionable isotopes can be extracted and make reactor fuel and nuclear weapons.
So we got 99% of everything that goes into this thing is pure waste.
Well that's, actually it's uranium hexafluoride.
That is then processed into solid uranium weapons.
Okay, so a DU round.
We got a kinetic energy penetrator.
These are gigantic rods of solid uranium.
Uranium-238, and then we have uranium-234, 235, uranium-236, plutonium, neptunium, and americium.
That's what's in the round.
A tank round.
Every single round is over 10 pounds of solid uranium.
They're not coated.
They're not tipped.
And then you already mentioned the Abrams tank.
That's what that is.
Then you got the A-10 Warthog aircraft.
Every single one's about 3 quarters of a pound.
A solid uranium, and they fire them at 4,000 rounds a minute.
That's a ton and a half uranium on target per minute.
And then we got the Bradley fighter vehicles, a half pound.
The Navy Phalanx is a half pound.
And the Navy Phalanx, they're shooting it up all over the place, right in the basin harbors.
Coast Guard now has it.
They've been shooting it up.
I mean, the Reagan task force left, and we got word from one of the gunners that they shot it up, you know, out at sea, so it's all over the place.
So we know this stuff is happening.
Now what happens is uranium weapons are primarily an alpha emitter.
They also have beta, gamma, and x-rays.
The bad, you know, the x-ray technician, the dentist, they all wear, they're giving these guys, these are for gamma emissions only.
They're not going to pick up anything else.
You can't detect the alpha emissions from a DU round if you're greater than a half inch away from it.
And the beta emissions if you're greater than four to six inches away from it.
However, when this stuff explodes, detonates, burns, whatever, it creates a fine dust.
And you did the studies!
alex jones
I mean, it gets into the lungs, but even, I mean...
I've got the Federal Mining Commission and others in the 60s, when they were mining all this, saying how deadly just tiny amounts of uranium were in the rock and how it was killing all the miners, even though they had breathing apparatus.
I mean, we're talking about thousands of times stronger here when it's been purified.
And of course, I've seen you cover, and I've read the report myself, what was it, a 1946 report?
1943. What was the report where they, I guess I saw another 46 report mentioned then, where they first coined the term dirty bomb and the U.S. government wanted to drop it on German cities but decided it would hurt our troops when they came in, and then they talked about this DU gas.
Can you talk about that?
dr doug rokke
Well, what we had was back in 1943, the S-1 Commission told the General in Manhattan Project, Leslie Grove, to use your radioactive materials, okay?
To contaminate air, water, and soil and cause all health problems.
Back in 1943, we didn't have fissionable materials because we hardly had any reactors.
Okay? So this is all radioactive material, so it's real simple.
And so that was the original dirty bomb directive, which we continue to do, and we're doing dirty bombs all over and giving them to our friends.
So what we've got is just a nightmare.
Now, back, you know, when we're doing all this research and putting our reports out, trying to get it stopped, we found out real clearly that you can't Clean it up once you use it.
There is no effect of medical care.
Now, within the Department of Defense, they'll tell the public and tell the military personnel that there's no problems or anything, okay, from uranium emissions exposure to contamination.
However, the orders are out there mandating thorough medical care within 24 hours of exposure.
The Army regulations require complete thorough environmental remediation.
The Army regulations and procedures require that everybody goes anywhere near it within 50 meters wear full respiratory and skin protection.
And then when you get into the briefings that have been given to the senior leadership at the Pentagon and all the way to the White House by Colonel J. Edgar Wakiyama, who was, you know, like the top dog on test and evaluation.
Quote, psilodamage and cancer.
Lung cancer is well documented.
Continues on.
The beta particle hazards the skin, lens of the eye.
Oh yeah, you know, I've got radiation cataracts and my vision is messed up and the surgery is very dangerous.
It took two hours just to fix one eye and they thought 30 minutes was going to be it.
We go on and we look at the stuff.
Continuously. Heavy metal like lead.
Target organ is kidney and the bone.
What's far greater?
Cultured human stem bone cell line with D was transformed.
The cells become carcinogenic.
The urine samples containing uranium are mutagenic by the Ames test.
This is the internal briefing.
I mean, just continuously on all of the hazards of radiation limits.
alex jones
Well, that's my point.
I mean, I've read all the documents working on Endgame and, you know, I've interviewed you over the years and I've seen the Army training films that you helped put together.
They admit I mean, just 20 years ago they said, this is deadly, this is only use of the Russians who are overrunning us in Europe, this stuff is never to be used unless we're in an all-out, already nuclear war, and it's a last weapon.
And then suddenly they just said, you know what, we're telling the public it's good for you, and that's the end of it.
I mean, why did they have that...
I mean, they had some morals before.
When did this psychopathic mindset come into effect?
dr doug rokke
Well, what I learned about it was in March of 1991.
As I was getting ready to start the cleanup of all the friendly fire, uranium weapons friendly fire rallies and Abrams tanks during Desert Storm, they handed me two memorandums.
And you've seen these.
One is called the Los Alamos Memorandum, written by a U.S. Marine Corps Colonel, Michael Zeen.
And it was very clear, we know there are serious adverse health and environmental effects, therefore lie in your reports, so we can sustain the use, maintain proponency, and uranium weapons never become politically unacceptable.
That one was a very clear lie, and I'm going, not gonna happen, guys.
At the same time, I get another memorandum from the Defense Nuclear Agency, and, you know, they had guys on the experts on bombs, and Colonel Lyle said, this stuff's not only a health hazard, it's a serious health hazard, we gotta think about all the contamination, air, water, soil, cleanup, and the whole mess.
And so, we've got one thing saying, this stuff's so dangerous, it's incredible, and the other one says, ignore the dangers.
And when we got to December of 1992, we had put all the reports together, and finally the Assistant Secretary of the Army, Walker, ordered us to do a study.
And this was at the U.S. Army Environmental Policy Institute and Serial Research Lab, co-located here at the University of Illinois.
And guess where?
I went on loan from the University of Illinois over there to do this, to understand whatever they have a problem, they call.
I'm tired of being a jack-in-the-box, because they don't want the problem solved, they just want smoke and mirrors.
And, uh, we were ordered, I mean directly ordered to figure out ways to reduce the toxicity of uranium munitions.
That's impossible.
And then we were ordered to figure out how to clean it all up.
Well, that I did.
alex jones
They wanted to cherry pick your reports, as I saw them do it later, and act like, uh, twist your reports and act like they found a way to make it safe.
dr doug rokke
Absolutely. And the same thing with the radiation exposures.
I mean, we have to understand.
When we look at the various specifics in the Army Technical Bulletin, the maximum allowable exposure for beta radiation is less than.05 millirem per hour.
And we're looking at 100 counts per minute for alpha.
What we learned and what we saw is we could never get down below thousands in 300 millirem per hour, no matter what we ever did.
If you used the proper measurement techniques and proper equipment.
As you mentioned, and this is really critical, Standard Radiac equipment and standard techniques will not even find this stuff.
You could have a pilot so dangerous and so great that it could take out an entire city, and you won't find it with a standard Geiger counter.
And I think this was just brought home real recently, because, um, and this is part of the new stuff we talked about.
In the summer of 1991, as Desert Storm wound, you know, wound down, we were storing all of our equipment to get ready for what's now become Desert Storm II Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Or if you don't call them.
So we had all kinds of armor and equipment, weapons of all types, munitions of all types, stored at Camp Doha in Kuwait.
Some of the chemical and biological weapons that we had recollected, you know, from Iraq that we had given to them prior to Desert Storm was stored there also.
You know, and we kept blowing it all up.
And what happened, a guy went to refuel a truck, and he didn't put a grounding strap on it, he started a fire.
Static discharge.
The whole place blew up and burned up.
I lost three of my guys, got killed there.
I was back in the States.
He immediately called and said, what do we do?
And I said, well, follow the technical bulletin on fighting fires and clean it up and get everybody to safety.
Well, it never happened.
And then part of our team flew over there.
I stayed back here and they went over to do it and three guys got killed.
Well, what happened here in the last few months is the Kuwaiti government, the Emirate of Kuwait, told the United States Department of Defense, you have to clean up all that contamination because there's so many medical and environmental problems.
You have to clean up Camp Doha and get rid of it.
So the United States got a contractor, and again, without training or teaching them or giving them equipment or anything, they dug up over 6,700 tons of contaminants.
alex jones
And that was a death sentence for the people that wanted to do that?
dr doug rokke
Yeah, absolutely.
But you have to understand, Dr. Michael Kilpatrick and Dr. Melissa McDermott don't care.
They don't care.
They totally don't care.
And we've been around and around on this with them a million times.
alex jones
So just some truck drivers and some guys from a construction company.
Guys that know how to run backhoes, they all just say, honey, I'm getting paid double time.
I'm going over to Kuwait.
And then they don't even tell you, hey, you're about to clean up something that's going to kill you better than a hammer in a few years.
dr doug rokke
Yeah, well, you know, we saw that.
You know, that's been documented with all this stuff.
So anyhow, what happened is they dug up over 6,700 tons of contaminated soil, terrain, and everything else.
They put it in ships, and they brought it back to Longview, Washington, the state of Washington, to a port.
They're unloading it at Longview, Washington, put it in the rail cars, and they're transporting 6,700 tons of contaminated sand and soil with radiological, chemical, biological, hazardous materials, conventional munitions contamination, plus all the insects, the bugs, and the microbes from the Middle East to Boise, Idaho for burial.
alex jones
Which, by the way, again, all these environmental rules are only for us, the public.
It's not for the government.
They dump nuclear reactors in the ocean, they dump toxic waste in the Delaware River, nerve gas killing every fish that's mainstreamed.
They're shipping all this into the middle of the country, and they've got all sorts of horrible parasites and burrowing mites and horrible varieties of spiders that make black widows look wonderful, don't they, Doug?
dr doug rokke
Yeah, it's horrible.
I mean, when you look at the stuff, So anyhow, this has all been brought in, and so we tried to stop it.
We said, wait, you can't do this.
Well, you know, again, as I said, they can violate the laws with immunity.
Well, recently, the governor for Idaho said, oh, there's no problem.
We took a Geiger counter outside the containers of train cars, and we didn't measure any radioactivity.
I mean, how stupid do you get?
And how stupid can anybody get?
So now the United States government, Department of Defense, Dr.
Michael Kilpatrick and all of them, and the generals have said uranium monitions contamination poses no risk.
However, we've dug up 6,700 tons of thoroughly contaminated stuff that's causing problems in Kuwait.
We're shipping it back to the United States for burial at an isolated site.
Well, not really isolated, but Boise, Idaho.
It's nuts.
So we've got that problem, real world problems.
alex jones
Well, here's another example.
They are moving the Plum Island Level 4 bioweapons lab off the coast of New York, our first official bioweapons lab even before Fort Detrick, Maryland, and they are moving it to San Antonio in the middle of the city, a Level 4, and they're building it, and it's not even rated Level 3.
Well, we'll go back to Plum Island.
dr doug rokke
One day there was a breach at Plum Island, okay?
And they had a serious breach in this back in 1998.
All of a sudden, we got a call and said, oh my, what's now?
Virus got out, guys.
Now what are we going to do?
Can you clean it up?
And we're going, sorry.
And then it showed up in Central Park, and then it's marked all the way across the nation.
alex jones
And let's be clear, it's also documented that weaponized Lyme disease came from deer swimming from plum into the city.
dr doug rokke
I mean, we have to understand, that's where it came from.
And, you know, in the military it's all there.
When you go to the Regal Commission report, they, I mean, it's totally documented in the U.S. Senate report.
alex jones
But, Doc, that's the question.
I've got to hold you over a little bit in the next hour if you can do it, because we run out of time.
And I want to, I'm going to push our next guest back a little if you can do it.
Absolutely. I mean, I live here in Austin, folks.
They're putting a level four bioweapon lab, weaponized super viruses and bacteria, a zoological center.
Down the street from me in a level 2 laboratory.
Folks, I mean, the elite have gone insane.
Dr. Doug Rocky, we'll be right back.
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alex jones
We have time before Dr.
Rocky leaves us and Alan Watt joins us on play a CNN clip where the director of Plum Island broke ranks and said, we've had bio releases from this lab already in the ocean to the United States a mile away.
You can't stick it in San Antonio in that lab.
For those that don't know, Level 4 is underground.
It's got humans don't go into the areas where the test animals or humans are being tested on.
It's got minefields around it.
It's got emergency buttons where they can burn it down.
No, they're just going to stick it in labs behind locked doors with just glass.
It's just ha ha ha ha.
It's all so much fun.
Level 2, I saw it in the news.
They can't even get a Level 3 rating for the San Antonio lab.
And there's this total denial.
Doc, continue.
him.
dr doug rokke
Anyhow, you know, we've still got uranium weapons being used extensively throughout the Middle East and Afghanistan with horrible consequences.
Somalia, the Balkans, and then obviously we've shot it up, you know, all over the place here.
We've got Vieques, Puerto Rico, it's still a nightmare.
And then what we have is, and let's come back to American history, okay?
We just had the 4th of July, didn't we?
On the 18th of April of 75, hardly a man is left alive.
One upon a time, all of us had to memorize Paul Revere's right, didn't we?
Yes. Concord, Massachusetts is where our nation was born, correct?
Yes. The minute man.
The United States Environmental Protection Agency has labeled The StarMet Uranium Weapons Lab as a Superfund National Priority List site.
Guess what?
The Department of Defense is refusing to clean it up.
But they're refusing to clean up Fort Detrick and all of those sites, you know, the other weapons sites.
alex jones
I want to get into that super site where they make it, or put it together, but what about these reports I'm seeing everywhere that they're shooting them at military shooting ranges now all over the country, unauthorized.
And that they're finding DU all over?
dr doug rokke
Absolutely. We, you know, so we've got this stuff, but what happened, I mean, there's another one, absolutely totally confirmed in Hawaii.
Not only uranium weapons in Hawaii, but nuclear weapons, Davy Crockett's in Hawaii.
And, you know, there's some really good estimates that...
alex jones
For folks that don't know, tell them what a Davy Crockett is.
dr doug rokke
Great, Davy Crockett is a handheld nuclear weapon.
It's, you know, very low yield, but...
It's one of those things that could be used.
It was from the 50s and the 60s, and again, there's a whole bunch of those missing from the arsenal in Hawaii, and they're very distinctive.
They could just pulverize a building and bring it totally down in a couple of seconds, like total freefall.
You know, and that'll give you kinds of vehicles that look like...
alex jones
You know, there's physicists in England that have analyzed and say that it looks like there may have been small nukes in the towers.
dr doug rokke
Probably a Davy Crockett, based on, yeah.
alex jones
Well, for those that don't know, who weren't in this in the Army in secret programs, tell folks what these tiny frogs are, what these tiny tacticals are.
dr doug rokke
Well, I mean, they've just done battlefield tactical nuclear weapons for small building structures or concentrations of troops in the hope of not getting anybody else.
So they're out there and they're missing.
Anyhow, let's come back to StarMet.
StarMet is a weapons facility where they built uranium weapons in Concord, Massachusetts.
The whole neighborhood, the area around there, has horrible medical effects.
Exactly what I just listed for what we're seeing from Operation Iraqi Freedom, Enduring Freedom, which exactly matched the 300,000 plus casualties we have from Desert Storm and the 70-some thousand dead from Desert Storm.
So we're looking at this stuff.
The estimates on this is, again, the EPA estimate is $64 million just to clean up the StarMed site in Concord, Massachusetts.
But they don't have the ability to do it.
They've totally disregarded everything.
They figure all this stuff is just going to continue to cause medical problems.
alex jones
Dr. Doug Rocky, stay there for one minute.
It's a quick break.
Start the next hour.
I want to come back and go over more of this with the leading expert on DU and the growing crisis.
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We've got him for two more segments.
I really appreciate that of Doug Rocky.
He always just comes on at the goodness of his heart, trying to warn people.
They're proliferating the use of DU.
It is causing massive problems everywhere.
They're using it at military bases everywhere.
They're using it around all the major ports with the Coast Guard.
They are lying to the Coast Guard, the sailors, the Marines, the Army, the Air Force.
And folks, they're not going to be there patting you on the back when you're dying.
But, Doc, for me, it really comes down to a change in mindset.
Like, they know the GMO, cross-species foods create new compounds, new amino acids that kill all the mammals that eat it over time.
We know it's hurting humans.
They're still approving it.
No one else is.
It's all us in the U.S. We know D.U.'s killing all these people.
We know their own reports admit it's killing people.
They don't care.
Uh, we know they're building 3,600 bio-shield, bio-weapons labs around the country, uh, in areas that aren't level 4. Uh, everyone's freaking out and can't believe it.
They don't care.
Uh, and I know you're going over all the evidence of this, and my audience knows about a lot of that thanks to you and others, but I keep getting back to...
It's scary that we have an evil elite, but also to think that they're just...
It's like they want to destroy the planet.
dr doug rokke
Sure, it's that they want to destroy the planet.
It's this Rambo mentality, okay, John Wayne.
We got to go to war, we got to kill and destroy.
And we're out there killing or destroying people that pose absolutely no threat to us, okay?
None at all.
But we just want to do it so we can do it and then we have to develop the next generation of weapon, the next best weapon.
So what we'll see, and I mean this is thoroughly documented, we'll develop a weapon and then we'll sell it and we'll give it away.
And then all of a sudden the people we sold it and gave it away to become our enemies and now we get, oh they've got this and we have to develop the next generation of weapon.
And so it just continues on and on and on and on.
alex jones
I bet we're going to see local cops using D.U.S.N.
dr doug rokke
Well, yeah, we had a standing joke when I was director of the Depleted Uranium Project.
We were down, okay, we were at Fort McClellan, Alabama, so we all hunted, okay, and everybody, we both hunted and, you know, hunted with guns, okay?
And the standing joke was, you know, what we're going to do is here, this is real easy.
We're going to take our compound bow.
We're going to get ourselves an arrow.
We're going to take and take a broadhead arrow, you know, razor edge, and we're going to make that out of DU.
So, and here's how we're going to do it.
We don't have to worry about a whole lot.
We're going to go hunting.
We're going to use a DU arrow.
You have to understand, uranium burns through the arrows.
It's moving.
So, we're firing the arrow.
It's got a broadhead.
It's on fire.
So, it slices, dices, cooks it, and cooks your meat all at once so it's ready to eat in the field.
The General didn't like that.
You know, so it's horrible because what we know today, thoroughly documented, is that the United States, Great Britain, Australia, and Canada have used uranium munitions against not only armor, which is what it was designed for, but conventional cars and trucks.
Totally documented against apartment buildings and houses.
Thoroughly documented against hospitals, water treatment facilities, sewage sanitation plants.
Against everything, because it's extraordinarily effective against all targets, and they just use it with total disregard.
The common task training every military member is supposed to go through states very clearly.
This stuff will cause contaminated air, water, and soil.
alex jones
And let's be clear, they blow the hell out of Afghanistan, Kosovo, Iraq, and then our troops move into the very bases that have been hit by it.
dr doug rokke
Correct, and that's why we have hundreds and hundreds of thousands of casualties that are fighting for medical care.
But when it comes back to this thing, you know, out in San Francisco they just had the big court trial, and again it's discussed in the Army Times, it just came in the mail, where the federal judge out there ruled he has no authority to force the Department of Veterans Affairs or Department of Defense to provide prompt and effective medical care.
Even though it's thoroughly documented that it is not being done.
Care is deliberately delayed and denied.
And then you talk about the PTSD, and we talk about the suicides.
Let's come down to it very clearly.
We have hundreds of thousands reported diagnosed with PTSD, but at the same time we have hundreds of thousands diagnosed with serious physiological problems due to toxic exposures.
The PTSD is a function of toxic exposures where the brain and the body no longer function well.
alex jones
Yeah, they're just using that as a cover, a psychological cover.
They did that in the first Gulf War.
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You're mentally ill.
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We've only got about five, six minutes left with Dr. Doug Brock.
You have to have him up sooner.
We've covered a lot of areas.
And it's not just the DU, it's the bioweapons labs, it's the chemical biological testing.
I want you to have about five minutes to cover anything else you think's most important, Doc, with all of my, you know, jumping in, adding different points.
But I want to get your take on the mindset of, say, part of Project Shad and A few of the famous cases of marching our troops, British troops in, and nerve-gassing them to death in chambers, not telling them they were going to kill them, and then lying to the families.
I mean, why do they do that?
How do they do that?
And what does that say about who's running our society?
dr doug rokke
Well, you have to understand, this is part of the reason why the United States gave Iraq all the chemical and biologic weapons for use against Iran and the Iraqi Kurds in the 80s.
We wanted to see how effective our weapons were.
So that we could use them in warfare.
And as a consequence, the mindset of the individuals, and I worked with these people, and I learned with them, and I taught them, and I talked with them until I saw the light came on.
They don't care.
We all reach out there and try to figure out how do we understand this mindset of killing and destroying, complete utter disregard for the health and the environment.
And I can't come up with any answer, yet it exists.
Now, what we have today is we have hundreds of thousands of casualties from the use of uranium weapons, misuse of all the other munitions.
Conventional munitions have horrible side effects also.
We have PTSD coming back, and the PTSD and the horrible suicides are a function of three things.
Number one, being so scared you pee in your pants.
Normal combat.
Historical. Number two, toxic exposures.
The medical evidence is there.
This is not Mental, this is physiological toxic exposure.
And the last thing is the realization all of a sudden dawns on them they've been lied to, and lied to, and lied to, and lied to.
And you can't deal with it.
You can't deal with it.
The average guy doesn't have the ability, the knowledge, he doesn't have the wherewithal or the resources to understand what's going on.
and he's left out there without medical care.
alex jones
So we have hundreds of thousands trying to obtain medical care, and they cannot get prompt and optimal medical care from the Department of Veteran Affairs or from the Department of Veterans, you know, Department of They say they got rashes, they're throwing up, their back hurts, they're bleeding, they've got tumors, and they don't give them health care, and then they kill themselves, and then the news says, oh, they were mentally ill.
But what you're saying, and what the evidence does show, is a lot of this isn't cracking up.
It's that they are so sick, Absolutely.
that in both Gulf Wars there was chemical weapons released from blowing up the facilities, and Saddam may have used them, and then now the DU, they've got to cover that up.
dr doug rokke
So it comes down to the bottom line.
You know, we go to war to control oil and resources.
That's what it's absolutely about.
I mean, most interesting here in the last few days, it's come out totally that the major oil corporations have now got a foothold back into Iraq, and they want it in Iran, they want it in Afghanistan and the Balkans, to condemn Africa to control all oil resources.
You know, carte blanche, that's what it's about.
It has nothing to do with giving you cheap gas.
It's total control of the domination of the world market.
And our military has been used to do this for all, over and over and over again for hundreds of years.
So, we're coming down to the bottom line.
And this is the choice I had to make.
From learning first-hand experience with chem, biological, uranium weapons, and everything else.
The weapons we use today in warfare have catastrophic, immediate, and long-term adverse health and environmental effects.
And we can't use them anymore, because we can't clean it up when we don't have the medical care.
The leaders of our nation, and the leaders of the nations, you know, with the charge, Don't care.
There is no accountability.
I can call the Department of Defense, the U.S. Army, the Department of Veterans Affairs Inspector General all the time, and I do, trying to get things done, taken care of.
They don't respond and they don't care.
Retaliation, as you know, thoroughly documented, is swift and brutal against anybody that speaks out the truth, or demands accountability, or in the case of the Department of Defense, we ask them, demand that they comply with their own orders and regulations.
Which are legal mandates to provide medical care and clean up the environment.
Whether it's at Concord, Massachusetts, Vieques, Puerto Rico, Albany, New York, over here at Jefferson Proving Ground, Hawaii, or wherever it is.
But they simply refuse to do it.
It's scary.
alex jones
Well, Dr.
Rocky, this is just another big piece of the puzzle, what you're covering and what you're revealing here, and that's the point I keep going back to, is that...
Just 10, 20, 30 years ago, the elites were still reckless and bad and corrupt, but they were still wise to the point of they didn't want to hurt themselves or get things out of control that could bring down the whole system.
And now, hey, we'll release, you know, weaponized Lyme disease and Of course, as they admitted, came out of there, the West Nile out of Plum Island off New York.
Now we're going to put these in your major cities.
And yeah, we're going to genetically engineer food, knowing it kills all the mammals that eat it over time.
And we're going to feed our kids it.
I mean, the elite, most of them feed their kids this stuff.
I mean, it's like, it's a mass recklessness, self-destructiveness.
I guess that you see with rich kids that want to, you know, run a car off a cliff or drive reckless or OD on drugs.
And it seems like they're just...
I mean, if you look at the pathology, the mindset, the psychology, that it's just on a hundred fronts.
It's everywhere.
Police brutality, corruption, Congress saying unlimited spying, total immunity, no Fourth Amendment today.
Bush saying, I relish doing this.
I mean, it is just...
It is mania.
dr doug rokke
But we have to stop it, because we have to speak up.
We have to do something.
We have to demand accountability, and that requires each and every one of us to step forward and do something like you've been doing, Alex.
I mean, you've been doing it for years.
God bless you, Alex.
alex jones
Well, God bless you, Dr. Doug Rocky.
I mean, it gets worse and worse.
Everything we talked about comes true, and it gets worse than I even thought.
And those that are siding with this evil just giggle and smirk like it's Like, it's cute.
I mean, it's like some 90-year-old man who's gone into dementia, rubbing, you know what, all over themselves, laughing at us.
It's not funny!
I mean, you know, this is insane.
This is dangerous.
And it...
God help us.
Well, give out some of the websites where you post articles and reports and documents.
What are some of them?
Your stuff's everywhere, but what are some of the better places to visit?
dr doug rokke
You know, Trap Rock was, and Trap Rock had a hostile takeover, but you know, you still get the Trap Rock, and I'm not sure exactly, I think it's Grassroots Peace now, is what Charlie is and Sonny are doing.
But they're out there, and just try and get the information.
You have to understand, here are the Army regulations, here is the information, these are their internal briefings, this is what's required, this is what's known.
And we need to hold them accountable for what they've done, and demand that they comply with their own requirements.
alex jones
That's what's not happening.
Absolutely. We're talking about all the deformities of U.S. troops' children, the contractors, the Iraqis, the Serbs, the Afghans, and the troops are going, my God, I've had two kids in a row.
They're totally deformed.
The Army says, D.U.'s good for you.
dr doug rokke
All I can do is cry.
I got another email yesterday with another photograph of another child who was born that's horrible.
And the question, this was a contractor, and they're saying, could this have been caused by D.U.?
And I said, I don't know.
We have to get the medical exam, answer all the questions, where they were exposed, what happened, what did they do.
But when we see the same thing, the deformities over and over and over again, contractors, military personnel, our own, or the other resident inhabitants of these nations, you have to understand, they're not insurgents, they're not terrorists, they are the people that occupy their nation.
alex jones
But even if the troops hate them and say, oh, let's kill them with all the videos of them shooting innocent women and children and celebrating, they're getting killed.
You know, the goons and the well-meaning people that are doing this, they're getting killed by it.
And, I mean, when you see 300, 400, 500 percent increases in Serbia and Iraq, as you know, Doctor, of deformities associated with uranium, I mean, it's clear.
We know it's the DU doing it, don't we?
dr doug rokke
Absolutely. This time around, we only have pesticides, we have uranium munitions, and we have the adverse reactions to the immunizations.
That's all we have this time around, in contrast to Desert Storm.
alex jones
Dr. Doug Rocky, I want to have you back in the near future.
God bless you, sir.
dr doug rokke
Thank you, and God bless you, Alex.
alex jones
You bet.
Thank you, my friend.
A great patriot fighting.
Oh, Doc, are you still there?
No. I just have another guest, and I'm waiting to get them in the wings here.
Very important guest.
Just like yourself.
Briefly, you mentioned separately how you trained for martial law.
Now, that's been declassified now, separately, but in just two minutes, because we're going to break and this interview has to end then, we've got Alan Watt coming up, but I want to ask him about this, too.
Tell us about the martial law.
I mean, they were openly telling you guys this was in preparation for martial law in the U.S.?
dr doug rokke
Absolutely. I was under a Clinton administration, again, Presidential Decision Directives 39 and 62, which is, you know, the whole thing put together.
And what had happened is we were working together with weapons, non-lethal weapons, and again, this is the microwave gun, beam gun that's mounted on the jeep that cooks people alive, stuff like this.
And so what was happening, we had all over the place, mount villages, where you practice on going in to overtake this stuff and overthrow the government.
Most recently, the U.S. Marines, 3,000 Marines, went into Indianapolis to do it.
We've had exercises all over the place.
Again, just come down and look at what's happening.
And it's scary, it's frightening because the individuals are brainwashed and they believe these myths and they believe that there's also such a threat out there that we have to do this.
alex jones
And let's be clear, when you were in the army as a major overseeing this stuff, they were admitting the officers to you this was for America.
dr doug rokke
Oh, sure.
alex jones
I mean, how would they try to sell that to you?
What would they say?
dr doug rokke
You know, here's the threat this is going to have and we have to protect ourselves and do this inside.
There's such an evil meaning.
I don't know.
It just got to be beyond comprehension.
But then you do the stuff, and then you go overseas and you use it all over there, too.
I mean, ask yourself the question.
Why do 3,000 United States Marines have to go to Indianapolis, Indiana, to do an exercise within the community?
Nuclear, biological, chemical, or for special operations, RF weapons, microwave gun weapons, inside a town.
alex jones
Well, that's the condition the public to accept it when they do it for real.
Correct. An acclamation.
dr doug rokke
Correct, exactly.
alex jones
Unbelievable. Well, Dr. Doug Rocky, I've got to get you back up for the martial law operations you witness in the near future.
Again, thank you, sir, for all the time.
dr doug rokke
You're welcome, sir.
alex jones
Take care.
Dr. Doug Rocky, ladies and gentlemen, amazing person.
I appreciate Alan Watt coming on a bit late.
There was so much he was talking about, I wanted to get it out.
We're going to come back and ask Alan Watt about this and get his take on it.
Cut into TheMatrix.com.
He'll be with us for an hour and 40 minutes.
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alex jones
The entire fourth hour, that's the next hour, will be open phones for Alan Watt.
For the next 35 minutes, we're going to cover any topics he thinks are important, anything he wants to go over.
Don't really need to introduce him to this audience.
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Great guy.
Great research.
Dovetails with mine.
And again, There's a lot of things that I wasn't aware of.
We all share information.
That's how we all go to another level of understanding, and that's why he's here.
Last hour, I had Dr. Doug Rocky, head of the DU program for the Pentagon, the Army, on how they knowingly know it's killing tens of thousands of troops, going to kill millions worldwide.
They're using it at military bases all over the U.S. now.
They are openly putting in landfills, just blowing around on major cities.
They're building level 4 bioweapons labs and level 2 facilities in major cities, when before they would have them on isolated islands or in armored compounds.
I mean, there's a method to this madness.
We know it's population reduction, but even the elite's top servants are coming in contact from this and getting hurt by this.
What is this all part of?
alan watt
It's, uh, well, in Canada they started to do this with these particular laboratories back in the late 80s, early 90s, and there was a hullabaloo from big cities like Toronto as to why would you put such a laboratory with deadly diseases in the middle of a city?
And at the time, of course, speculation for some of us was that one day that's where they're going to release these deadly bacteria from.
The best place to have it, the best place to do it, right in the middle of the crowded city, if the agenda is to depopulate.
And we know with Agenda 21, and it's been really rushed ahead now, to get everyone off the rural areas into the existing overcrowded cities for the masses.
And they will start pandemics once that they're all in there.
Pandemics crop up every few years or die down, crop up until a lot of people die down, back and forth, back and forth.
That way they can bury their dead and take care of the dead.
The elite won't do that for them.
And so we always bury our dead.
alex jones
And there's evidence they engineered the Spanish flu, and they admit Blum Island alone weaponized limes and what's killed now thousands.
The West Niles admittedly from there released on purpose.
And, of course, the elite admit in official U.S. government policy they want to kill 80-plus percent of us, memorandum 200, State Department.
But you're absolutely right, Alan, nail on the head as usual.
This is what they're doing, and see, Just like they've had the bioweapons experts release foot-and-mouth and other things important down, the news even admits they're releasing it, or a bioweapons guy releases the anthrax, that's admitted, then they try to blame Apache, and they have these Dr. Eric Piankas everywhere who say, kill 90% of us, he gets a 95% standing ovation at the Academy of Sciences, And the point is, just like in 13 Monkeys, they tell us what they're going to do.
They've got their guys when the order comes in.
They're just going to march in and release it in every major city.
alan watt
They will.
And they want everyone packed into the city.
It's interesting, too, that once you're packed into these cities with the ID cards coming up, you'll also be restricted as to far you can travel out of that city, very much like the old Soviet Union system.
So you're literally going to be trapped within a city.
And if you look up the NATO booklet that's supposed to be available to every member of the public of the NATO countries for bacterial and biological and atomic fallout on cities, this is official.
It's been the same since the 1970s, and every NATO country signed it.
The orders are, and a documentary was done in Britain on this, the orders are that the troops have to contain Everyone within that city, any people trying to leave, have to be shot on sight.
These are present orders.
Whole groups trying to leave the city have to be bombed from the air with CS gas.
And there'll be three cardrons of rings around the city to try to trap everyone within it.
And the whole containment exercise will be to allow the people inside those cities to gradually die.
alex jones
And they've been doing chemical, biological, radiological, lethal, murdering us all over the Western world for at least 75 years.
They've tested it all.
They tell us, give up all your rights, let us militarize and have checkpoints to stop Al-Qaeda.
But it's really so the eugenicists can carry out our extermination.
And the police officers listening, you will die with your families, worshipping your gods until the end, won't they, Alan?
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There's no doubt about it.
This is a very old plan.
And, uh, see, World War III has been underway for a long time.
It was declared on the citizenry of the planet.
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thinks, cause he rules at us.
He can do with it as he please.
And if things don't change, he will.
alex jones
If you look at the world, It looks like some paranoid schizophrenic nightmare.
But that's what the elite are.
They're inbred, they're mentally ill, they're highly intelligent, and they have all these compartmentalized elites working for them, under them.
It's like specialized insects in a hive.
And when I say this, I'm not trying to shock you.
It's the truth.
The government says they want a world government to carry out your orderly extermination and then the genetic engineering We're good to
go. Uh, we told you everything because we have the RAM Corporation.
We have the British Ministry of Defense, uh, plans.
We have, I just had Dr. Doug Rocky on, who was high-level Army, who worked for Marshall Law.
Now we have PDDs.
Now they'll, the White House says they're doing it.
But this was decades ago.
This is all a giant plan.
They own the banks, they print the money, they want power.
And as Ellen Watt just rightly said, World War three is going it is against you and the few quote rogue nations not controlled by the new world order and I mean the incredible thing is I even forget about this stuff.
I remember I want to ask Alan about this in 2000 The Army was in town.
They used a fake nuclear spell as their cover.
They shut down I-35.
Then they had Army driving around downtown and playing close.
We have people inside the APD.
They told us about it.
We got down there and got footage.
Austin police collapsed.
There was some type of gas downtown.
I thought it was a fake drill.
Later I was told by sources, no, it was real.
They said, watch again.
Then the DPS collapsed, shut down the building.
They were going to the hospital.
More than 30 people at the hospital there.
They did biotests, chemical tests here.
We're not sure what it was.
The point is, I don't have to go down the road to find checkpoints taken by Blood Without Warrants or cops collapsing.
Why do they revel, Alan, in hurting their own military and police, and then how did they psychologically brainwash the military and police to enjoy being hurt by their masters?
I mean, I know a lot of people listening are going to die with your children still loving the government who are listening right now, Alan.
alan watt
Well, what we've got is when psychopaths rule over people, they give you a psychopathic culture.
And they've bred a whole generation with a declining culture into immorality, degeneracy, and so on.
The state has given the new values to those who've been growing up over the last 20, 25 years.
They wanted a militarized people for now, so they created it.
They went to work giving them video games designed for the military.
They debased the culture at the same time.
Music went down.
All the arts went downhill.
Nihilistic type art, which the CIA have actually declassified in their documents.
They were behind a lot of this and actually paid the artists to do all this nihilistic art and so on.
So you have a degenerate people who basically adopted a Well,
alex jones
that's why Hitler and Stalin hired felons and rapists, aggravated felons, violent felons, out of the prisons because they actually enjoy following orders and serving evil.
alan watt
They enjoy it and they also, because you see the system in a psychopathic structure, which is militarized, is sadomasochistic.
So each person has, praises the person above them with more power than themselves.
The officer above him tends to despise the ones beneath him, the inferior ranks.
Yeah, let me stop you.
alex jones
I've noticed that a lot of these evil people actually, in person, admire me.
They say, well, we're your enemy, but we admire you because you have power.
And it's totally sick.
They even admire us, Alan.
alan watt
They admire power.
That, again, is a sadomasochistic mentality.
They do admire power, absolutely.
alex jones
Well, keep going with their psychology.
alan watt
And as I say, they also despise the weak.
That's something else, because they're sadomasochistic.
And they're very cruel to the weak beneath them.
You'll always find that in such societies when they've been militarized.
And we have been militarized.
When I saw the troops going in to the first Gulf War, and they showed you a bunch of marines on board a U.S. carrier doing rap music, stripped off, and you heard this noise, this incredible noise going across the ocean, and these men jumping up and down like something that you'd have seen in Africa 500 years ago.
I said we're sending in the barbarians to one of the oldest civilizations in the world.
We had created a degenerate generation for this particular time in history.
alex jones
That's right.
They've sold us that skulls and death and murder and craziness is fun.
Absolutely. And that's what we have now.
alan watt
And we have people who have a generation relief where very few people have two parents.
Bertrand Russell and many others spoke about this.
It was necessary to destroy the family.
The state would become The new father, and it has been.
When these young men who often don't have a father figure are brought into the military, suddenly for the first time they belong.
Just the same as the studies that have been found on gangs.
Young people who have one-parent families will join the gang because it's the nearest thing to the father.
He gets protection from the gang.
alex jones
Exactly! In fact, I've seen studies.
Most of the thug cops were single parent.
They were into drugs and crime.
They became bullies.
They're not real men.
They think abusing little people is strength.
alan watt
Yes, that's right.
And so we joined the military.
You're told you're special.
Every country does the same thing.
You are special.
You're not a civilian, though.
A civilian is a derogatory term.
And the bonding process is a scientific process in the military.
And suddenly they belong to something for the first time in their lives.
Their new brothers are all around them wearing the same gear as they do.
Their enemies are everyone else who's not wearing that same gear, that uniform, that one form.
And so they feel secure for the first time in their life, and they're being taken care of, and they're given power.
It's also the only area where a male in this society is allowed to show off aggression and be rewarded for it.
alex jones
That's right!
All other true male archetypes, they're healthy, That's right.
and humiliate the population, that forms resistance, which then further compacts the gang into their gang psychology of, see, the outsider is against you.
alan watt
That is right.
So, this is a very old plan, and a lot of this came from Plato's Republic.
Plato's Republic talked about the New World Order.
He talked about ongoing revolution.
alex jones
And Caesar wrote about how to manipulate his own troops.
Yes. And that's why Kissinger, in his own book, can call you dumb animals to be used by them, and you go, yes, I'm a dumb animal.
Oh, God, nerve gas me.
Kill me.
I love you, Kissinger.
alan watt
That's right.
He called American troops dumb, stupid animals to be used for foreign policy.
Yeah. And a foreign policy which they did not understand, never would, and actually they don't care to understand.
alex jones
As long as they get to act macho and tough.
alan watt
Well, they've been brought up with video games where they see cartoons with guys with big machine guns and weaponry.
And here they are.
They're given the real staff and told to go off and kill in the killing fields.
And they're also drugged too, mind you, mightily today, lots of articles on the drugging of the troops.
And that also was put out in James Magazine maybe 15 years ago, that the future soldier would be heavily drugged so that he would not have retained memories of the things that he'd done.
alex jones
he said in the future it'll be what drugs you're on, and they admitted they were testing new drugs on the troops then, We also had Canadian troops.
alan watt
Canada was given the largest doses of a new drug, a substitute for quinine.
alex jones
For malaria.
alan watt
And some countries like France banned it because it was so neurotoxic.
And a documentary was done on the CBC on troops who came back.
And one young officer said that his whole time there was like an LSD trip.
He was hallucinating every day.
They all were.
He was pulling his own pistol out and putting it at the heads of children.
alex jones
And of course, that malaria story is just the cover of their...
Yeah. Yes, that's correct.
alan watt
So they don't retain those nasty memories, but eventually they're demobbed.
They come back into society, they start going crazy, and there's no help for them.
alex jones
Yeah, well they've got your wife pulled over at 1am when she's coming home from work.
That's when he's gonna melt down.
Yeah. He's gonna kill her right on the squad car video, and nothing's gonna happen.
And if you speak up, a SWAT team's gonna come by, and they're gonna murder you and the rest of your family, because you're slaves now.
alan watt
Another part of this as well, apart from the psychological damage and probably physical brain damage that's done with these drugs, is the fact that during the Vietnam they recognized something.
And the same bunch, remember, who were helping behind the scenes in advisory capacities are in power today.
And some of them vowed never to let the Vietnam era happen again in a future war.
Now, they were scared of troops coming back who were well-coached in the military and how to defend themselves in war tactics in case it would cause a revolution back home.
And it was decided that, or at least the suggestion was put forward at a very high level, that if they could literally, through inoculations and different means, disable those soldiers after four years or so were up.
In other words, diseases would kick in, which would make them very, very sick.
That would put them out of the category of being a future threat when brought back home within the country.
alex jones
Well, that's what the vaccines are for.
They give them the questionnaire, and this has even come out from high-level sources.
They give them a questionnaire and say, will you fire on U.S.
citizens? And the 75% on average that say no, they then get the shot that soft kills them.
And then you're going to be dead in 5, 10 years, or a vegetable.
And then the others that say yes, they get promoted up, and they get taken care of like good racehorses, and they don't get called for the special shots.
alan watt
So given time delay, diseases which will kick in once their usefulness in the military is over, and they go downhill, they may often commit suicide as well, may have crippling diseases and terrible pain.
alex jones
Yeah, so lie and say you'll fire on US citizens, but you've got to convince them.
Or they're going to kill you.
Go ahead.
alan watt
Yeah, so this is all planned.
So those in the military are disposable, and it's always another bunch next year at I don't Please
alex jones
Please continue, Alan.
alan watt
Well, as I say, everything is planned this way and often published.
That's the amazing thing about this New World Order.
They do have their big players publish many, many books with future scenarios because they have huge think tanks working on all aspects of society at all times.
they do love to print up and put out to the public books.
the facts of their plan, their Brave New World scenario.
And now, the Futurist Society is a great, huge society.
It's been on the go for many years.
That's where your mainstream authors are invited to attend to get the latest, they write stories around things which are going to happen in real life, to familiarize the public and condition them that this is inevitable.
alex jones
Revelation of the method, because their studies, the behavioral psychologist studies as you know, but for the audience, know that even if something's a horrible thing, if they've been introduced to it, they will take it better.
And so that's why there were so many books and TV shows about the government's gonna fly planes in the World Trade Center, they're gonna attack Afghanistan, they're gonna use war games to cover it up, and they told you!
We're gonna do this and then I even had the X-File guy on saying yes the CIA Came and told us to write these pieces and it's just letting us know It's like we did it and we're gonna keep killing you.
alan watt
Okay? Yeah, and I don't think people realize That everything in their culture is is guided All arts and entertainment and so on is guided that's now declassified from the CIA the Iran the culture industry in The US, they were allied with MI5 in Britain, and I've got all of the data here that's only recently been declassified.
The big bands, the groups they funded, the great artists they funded, even the poets they funded, to guide and shape the thoughts of those that followed the arts.
alex jones
Well, there's a lady got a popular Ron Paul song out right now, and she was signed four years ago by one of the biggest record companies, and it's admitted the CIA came to them and said, uh, no, do not put this out.
alan watt
Yes. So this is something you see when you read the communist writings of Lenin.
Lenin said at the beginning of the 1900s, he said, communism will not last for forever.
He says, maybe 70 years.
He said, then it will blend in to Combine with capitalism, and out of it will come a third way.
Which, again, is the title of the book of Alvin Toffler, who belongs to the Futurist Society.
Yes, and Lenin said that the system that would eventually transpire would be not quite capitalist, not quite communist.
It would be a form of an elitist group, the top of fascist elitist group, and a bureaucratic system run on the communist lines to take care of the masses, and everyone would eventually be brought in to serve the world state.
That would be your duty to the world when born.
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Before you slip into unconsciousness, I'd like to have a Alan tends to think they're going to succeed, at least in damaging humanity, probably in an irrevocable way.
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Shifting gears, you know, I took RTF at the local college here in Austin, and I've read a lot of books about it, and I'm familiar with the book, the Whirling Dervisher, about media control.
Dr. Aaron Dykes has got it right out the window out there.
He's reading it right now about CIA control of the dominant media in the past.
They're losing control now, so they're not invincible.
But I also, Alan, want to get your take on, the general public isn't aware that watching television puts them in a dream state.
I mean, that's mainline science.
They think we're just saying that puts you in a dream state, and so that's why I've seen studies, a bunch of them, 30, 40 years ago, they would do suggestibility, you know, hypnotism tests at universities, and they found about 25% on average could be highly suggestible.
And that was always the number.
Books were written by hypnotists and by magicians, and you can see it if you go on a cruise, you go to Las Vegas, you know, they'll get 100 people out of the audience and only pick 10 or 15. But now they're finding, and they have these TV shows where the guy can make somebody give them their wallet on the street, or he could hypnotize people to go try to rob an armored car, or to jump in a river, and it's really happening.
And now they're finding around 60% of people will do it.
Well, that's because they're zombies.
They're never awake anymore.
And sometimes you can even see them kind of wake up when you're warning them, you know, out on the street or you see somebody...
They are zombies, there's no doubt about it.
alan watt
They've never really been conscious, to be honest with you.
They've been raised and weaned on television.
They've been babysat with television from the age of toddlers.
And if you even look at what they're being shown as toddlers, you'll see all the political correctness there that that child's going to experience in their lifetime.
All the greening stuff is in the cartoons.
The save the world stuff is in the cartoons.
The messages of too many people is in the cartoons.
But they've been raised like that, not to be conscious at all.
And Brzezinski, who really specialized in certain areas of the human mind on the mass level, talked that in his own book, Between Two Ages.
And he said in there that shortly the public will be unable to think for themselves through scientific technique.
And he said all they'll be able to do is repeat what was on the previous night's news to each other on the following day at work.
He said they will expect the media to do the research.
And that has happened.
It's been very successful.
The average person truly believes the media is an extension of their own brain, and it will warn them about things that they should know.
They don't stop and even question what is the media.
The fact that they're private organizations.
And they have tremendous power to mislead you, if they so wish.
Now, only 50 years ago, people in all countries were very suspicious of media.
They knew that they were owned by big business tycoons, who are generally related to royalty or whatever, and big magnates.
And they knew that it was propaganda outlets.
That's what media was for, propaganda.
Media is an essential arm of government.
That's its purpose.
It gives us our reality through whatever information that the science were supposed to know, even if it's false.
alex jones
I want to talk more about that when we get back and how to break people out of this mesmerized condition.
But as you said, from birth, raised in it, to where the neural pathways develop, and these are major studies, of the brain, and the television with children actually brain damages them.
It lessens their future potential.
We'll be right back.
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