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live at prisonplanet.tv for viewers right now, and we'll be streaming video for the full two hours with Jordan Maxwell coming up in the third and fourth hour today. - Gabe?
Mark Dice is coming up in thirty minutes with a quick ten minute report on the latest developments with Michael Reagan coming out and saying murder children by putting hand grenades into their... I can't even say it on air, it's total perverts what they're into.
You'll see that mantra in all their documents, their torture.
It's an obsession.
They're legalizing macabre Jeffrey Dahmer type stuff.
So he'll be popping in with us on the latest on saying kill 9-11 truthers, kill anybody that tries to wake the troops up, murderous, contract killings, the rest of it.
Also, Supreme Court meets Monday.
They're going to announce this afternoon, or by the latest tomorrow, the Second Amendment death knell attack that will be billed as a Second Amendment victory.
Remember that.
Also, really one of the biggest news stories of the day, there's so much today, I'm going to spend time coming up in the next hour on this.
I heard about this last Friday.
I read the bill over the weekend, and it is so horrible that it's really hard to even telegraph the full magnitude of this.
Buried in the 630 page housing bill, which is very popular obviously with the mortgage crisis, is a provision that expands Know Your Customer and other federal laws that violate the Fourth Amendment and violate the Fifth Amendment.
And they've passed other laws.
They passed back in, what, four years ago.
It was billed in the news as, a new law will give you total privacy with your doctor and with medical records.
But in there it states that any prescription, whether it's for a diaphragm or prescription ibuprofen, doesn't matter what it is, that it's instantly uploaded to the federal government.
On these databases and systems.
Forget a Fourth Amendment against unreasonable search and seizure.
Forget a Fifth Amendment against incriminating yourselves.
You see, we're all wired into the matrix.
We're all under surveillance and then they tell the cattle, oh, you're not under surveillance.
Remember Bush?
Oh, we don't listen to people inside the U.S.
without warrants and it comes out they're listening to everybody, non-terror related.
And they say, okay, but it's to keep you safe.
Now, under this, eBay, Amazon accounts, any website, any small shopping cart, A lot of these people have shopping carts that might make $200 a year.
You know, with little dolls they knit.
I know a lot of people that have their own shopping carts that might make $200 a year.
I mean, gross!
It says you will report, go under federal regulation, have to file reports and report every transaction in live time to them.
Total violation of the Fourth and Fifth Amendment.
Now I told you that under the National ID Act, because I saw Ridge say it on television when he was Homeland Security Ed and it was on all the documents, and it was in United Nations agreements from 2000 on the World ID Taxation System, they said that when you even swipe your card at a brick-and-mortar store, You are going to have your name attached to even the cash that you're using.
So you may pay with cash, but they're going to swipe your card.
And the ostensible reason will be, well, we've got to decide which tax bracket you're in for sales tax.
And they've also proposed, and have tried to pass at the state level, at the international level, and Europe's actually doing this in many countries,
to then whatever you do on the web is instantly uploaded to a government website and then they surveil your account and the accounts in the software that by law they want to be built to automatically report where you don't even have a choice that's the next step ebay and amazon and others are already reporting on people that have sub pages and are selling and using them as a merchant and so uh... this will go into all cash registers all brick-and-mortar stores And that's only one.
Remember two weeks ago I went over the five-pronged attack to destroy the internet and I said taxation regulation over every shopping cart, taxation over emails, taxation over bandwidth, and then I heard local talk show host in Austin endorsing it saying, oh this is a wonderful idea.
These people are getting the web for free.
You having to pay Even more taxes, and have everything you do tracked and traced, and have the power of even reporting on yourself, which violates the Fifth Amendment and Fourth Amendment.
That's just being taken away.
That is not a good thing.
So first there's been denial about all this, and now it's happening, and people are maybe going to wake up to it.
So I want to spend ten minutes of the next hour going through this, but that's also in the news.
Have a small business?
Get ready for Dodd's eBay reporting provision now that Congress has all but decimated the Fourth Amendment with the intrusive so-called FISA bill.
It's time to go after small businesses.
Deep in Senator Christopher Dodd's 630-page Senate housing legislation is a sweeping provision that affects the privacy and operation of nearly all American small businesses.
The provision, which was added by the bill's managers without debate this week, That's outside of committee, folks.
They add it right at the end.
"...would require the nation's payment systems to track, aggregate, and report information on nearly every electronic transaction to the federal government," explains FreedomWorks.
Now, this big public watchdog group read the bill.
They did a decent job, but I've now analyzed it.
Let me explain.
Remember, I've been telling you, you heard about the governor.
of New York made a $10,000 transfer and his bank reported it to the FBI and that's how the prostitution sting started.
Number one, that's not true.
He was under surveillance before that.
And then I came on air and I said, no, no, no, no.
The banks are illegally, and that's why they're trying to pass legislation.
Everything you do is uploaded.
The government's in all of the bank's databases.
Kind of like I told you in 96, the NSA doesn't tap your phones.
People think when there's water in the lines or a tree falls down on a thing and it clicks, you know, in some phone system a hundred miles away that that's the government listening.
No.
That's a local tap if you're hearing clicking.
Or a private eye doing it down the street from your house or under your house with a tap.
That's the only time you hear clicking and stuff.
Okay?
You don't hear it clicking.
The NSA doesn't tap the phone companies, they are the phone companies.
Nine billion dollars of whole hubs in 96, 97, 98, 99 put in everywhere and then it came out a year and a half ago and now it's on Frontline, breaking news, oh my gosh.
Whole floors at AT&T and everybody else are NSA.
Everything runs through it.
All I did was read the Telecommunications Act, the Deregulation Act.
I mean, it's said by October 1st, every cell phone would be tracked in live time off GPS triangulation.
Not GPS on the phone, GPS on the cell towers, triangulating you down to three feet, listening to you, tracking you, and they even, people denied that was happening when I had all the documents, and then they advertise it to you.
Oh, track your kids, track yourself, track your husband!
So now they're even making money off of the government tracking system that's on you, but someone who even knows that their phone tracks them will still deny that the government designed it, or by law, ordered that be put in.
You see, this is the mega, massive, complete denial.
I mean, I have the government documents where they put cancer viruses in your vaccines, where they said they wanted to kill you and your family, where they said they want to brain damage you.
We've made films, we've covered them, we've read them.
I read some on the air yesterday.
People just say, not true!
Usually it's not my opinion.
People say, well you shouldn't get so upset.
How can I rationally not get upset by what's happening when I know it's destroying our whole future?
That I know that I'm living in a false reality.
By that, the general public is in a false reality.
They have no idea the magnitude of what the global engineers have built and are building around them.
Okay, so I'm going to get more into that later.
It's just completely diabolical.
The average cop can't see it, the average FBI guy, the average school teacher, the average banker can't see it.
It is so diabolical.
It is at the scientist, think tank level, and there are thousands of people that plan this, who do know the full picture, and then a few hundred owners.
And that's it, and they control it, they guide the whole thing, it's institutionalized, they do it in upgrades, globally, you'll see the same system, even have the same name put in, With the welfare workers, and the surveillance, and it's all being put into place.
And every step they said they'd follow, they're following.
Towards releasing controlled bioweapons releases, which they'll then use to claim that terrorists hit us, they need more security, tighten down us more, hit us even harder a few years later, tighten down more.
And as the last of you are being killed in your compact bunker cities, The cops dying around you out in the streets won't even know it's their government doing it.
It's their global system.
It's their masters.
They'll be looking under beds for Osama, or for whatever new terror group it is, never knowing it's their masters killing them.
Now, I don't want to spend a lot of time on this right now, because we don't have a lot of time.
We're going to take this clip right now and put it onto the Barry Jennings video and then put that out because I want to expand on the points that Vermus made in the video that's up on InfoWars and Prison Planet.
There have been major new developments, and if you go to Infowars.com, you can see those big new developments in the 9-11 Truth Movement.
Emergency official witnessed dead bodies in the World Trade Center by Paul Joseph Watson.
At Infowars.com, Curt Nimmo has the story, bodies in WTC7.
Jennings' interview demolishes official version.
Let me briefly tell you what happened, then I'm going to throw it over to Burmese, and we're going to play the clip of Barry Jennings.
Barry Jennings was the Deputy Head of Emergency Management there for New York City.
He went into Building 7.
There were steaming coffee sandwiches.
They were told, get out of the building with a phone call.
They get out.
There's explosions that have gone off.
He's stepping over dead bodies.
And this is before either North or South Tower, the 110-story towers, had fallen.
He had told some local news that, on record that day.
So Jason Burmiss and Dylan Avery and Corey Rove, they go out a year ago for Loose Change Final Cut.
They interview him.
They play little clips on air but don't say who he is.
And suddenly he gets threats.
They threaten to fire him.
All this stuff happens.
And so, even though he agrees that we can use it, and we have that contractually, him agreeing to use it, and whether it be important for the movement, important to get it out, we didn't put it out.
I was one of the executive producers on Lose Change Final Cut.
Then, the BBC backtracks who it is, this Guy Smith guy, who came and interviewed me and did this hit piece, a previous hit piece on 9-11, and I'd say, what about Northwoods?
What about U.S.
troops massing to invade Afghanistan the weeks before?
And he would, no, no, that's not going in the piece.
Total hit piece.
And at the end of it, he said it was fair and balanced.
At the end, he just laughed at me and told me I was a nut.
It was a big joke.
I mean, totally disingenuous.
Then, about a month ago, I was on BBC Radio debating him, and he said he was involved in this new Building 7 piece that's coming out, and they interviewed Barry Jennings for it, and we've seen the trailer.
Now, a few months ago, they interviewed Dylan Avery in Denver for this.
And the same guy, Smith, and he comes over and says, I hear it's a lie.
I hear that you guys are making it up that Barry Jennings said that he was stepping over bodies in Building 7 or there were explosions.
And I hear there's not video of him.
Well, Dylan happened to have it on his phone.
And played it!
And tried to play it for the cameras.
I'll bet bottom dollar unless they pull it and re-edit it and we expose the History Channel when they did delay it a few weeks and did change some stuff.
Because I pointed out that Hearst Publishing owned it and that I had heard they had an ad for the book not letting them know it was conflict of interest.
And so they did have to go cut that out of the...
of the hit piece.
So they may go try to change this now, but what we've been told is basically they edit craftily and Jennings has been pressured.
He said, "Well, it looked like bodies.
I thought it was bodies.
It might not have been bodies.
I meant the stuff on the floor was like bodies." And Dylan says, "No, here's the clip." So we want it on record.
They were shown this clip.
They were shown what you're about to hear.
Jason, you did a great job on that YouTube video you and Aaron put up.
It's up on InfoWars, but in the next six, seven hours, we're going to get a new video up with this info, and this is what's important.
People need to understand that We had to put this video out because now they're going to try to misrepresent or spin what Jennings has been saying.
When all along, you guys saw him on the news say something similar, you just went and got the interview with him.
The BBC is also going to try to cover up why they announced Building 7 fell.
But when you look at it, I mean, this is a 47-story skyscraper.
It is a ultra-spook house.
We have the largest CIA base outside of Langley.
We have the largest Secret Service office in the world.
And the two emergency workers that went up there, Barry Jennings and Michael Hess, went to an abandoned Office of Emergency Management.
This should have been fully manned.
They were both shocked to see that there was, you know, still hot coffee, half-eaten sandwiches.
Michael Hess was actually there to meet Giuliani, who had gotten a warning to get out that morning.
Although that's not on the YouTube clip, Barry Jennings does mention that Hess was there to see Giuliani and was freaking out because he couldn't get a hold of the mayor.
So, why was this Office of Emergency Management totally evacuated?
And why is it that someone called Barry, and once he found out he was in Seven, told him to immediately leave if there was no threat?
Basically headline, you know, emergency manager says bombs and buildings, dead bodies, you know, why this is an important interview.
You know, A, they're trying to suppress it and spin it.
B, they said it didn't exist.
C, he corroborates what other people are saying.
He's an emergency manager, deputy head.
I mean, you start adding all this together, he's corroborating the bombs, he's corroborating big explosions and dead bodies before either of the two towers, you know, hundreds of yards away collapse.
It's just absolutely amazing.
And now they've obviously pressured him and gone and interviewed him, but watching some of the clips online, it sounds like he almost says the same thing, but then they just tell you, oh, that's not what you really heard.
Kind of like the spin that the producer of this new hit piece, Guy Smith, when I was debating him on radio, he said, well, they knew the building was going to come down all day, so BBC just got it wrong and said that it had already come down.
Yeah, magically, three buildings never collapsed from fire.
Modern Steel Buildings, now three of them do, and then magically BBC and CNN say it's collapsed in its own footprint, a total collapse, and then they give the official collapse.
I mean, it's like them trying to make excuses about New Zealand, Australian, and Thailand newspapers reporting before Lee Harvey Oswald was even captured, before his name was out in the U.S., having it printed that Lee Harvey Oswald shot the President.
Well, they got a time zone off by an hour.
And that's admitted.
I mean, you guys can't get away with this stuff.
I mean, you run your black ops, you're going to be exposed.
Stay there, Jason.
Let's come back.
Folks, this is huge news.
Make sure this video gets out to everybody.
Stay with us.
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Barry Jennings, deputy head of the Office of Emergency Management in New York City.
On the day of 9-11, he came out and said, man, there were bombs, things going off, dead people in Building 7 before either tower fell.
The media covered that up.
Jason Burma, Dylan Avery, the Loose Change crew, they went, they interviewed him.
They were going to put it in Loose Change Final Cut.
They just made noises about somebody high up in the emergency system saying this.
The establishment figured out who it was and went and threatened him, threatened his job, things like that.
He called Dylan and others and told them that.
Said, I know I said you could use it, but please don't put it in your film.
And even though we had a moral responsibility to put it out to everybody, I argued against it, but I wasn't going to try that, even though I was the executive producer and could probably have, you know, made them do it.
I said, fine, but this is a big mistake.
And then the neocons came out and said we were liars, we didn't have this interview, it didn't exist, Barry Jennings had never said that, and then there's this BBC guy who did this big disingenuous hit piece, told me it wasn't a hit piece, but then a few days into the interview with him, This is a part two he's doing on Building 7 last year.
He just starts laughing at me and saying, I think you're nuts.
And I mean, literally just laughing with his crew.
And I was like, whoa, I've never had this happen.
I mean, literally just like giggling.
And I'd say, but what about Building 7?
What about Operation Northwoods?
What about how the U.S.
masked all these troops to invade Afghanistan in the months before?
And he just said, we're not putting that in the film.
And he just would laugh at me.
And then they went and said that the Loose Change guys had said that there was paper found in a lake that was only a mile away, but that we used MapQuest and it showed four miles.
When we never said that, the Associated Press and others said eight miles away.
Eyewitnesses said that who people have interviewed.
There was news footage of it.
So it was all straw men, just made up.
That's what they do.
They make up stuff we haven't said.
Or they go get kooky 9-11 truth groups who are operatives or mentally ill and then say that we are saying what they say.
And so I again debated Guy Smith on the radio and he said, told me a few months ago, yeah I got a BBC piece on Building 7 coming out.
And I said, oh yeah, and BBC says they've lost the tapes.
uh... of uh... that day when they announced that the building fell, building seven before it did, twenty five minutes and he said real slightly, oh we found them again and giggled.
We ought to get those clips off that interview.
See how funny it is?
They had five to one debating me on that show and would fade me down and wouldn't give me any time but but that's the point when people demanded the tapes Because at first, BBC was denying it was real.
Then they said, OK, it is real, but we don't have the tapes.
And they said, oh, we found them, and then he giggles.
It's very funny, you know, to manipulate the slaves, to be on a power trip.
And then...
They're now putting this out, and they supposedly have Barry Jennings debunking in that.
So, we've just put the video out.
A bunch of it.
There's more we'll be putting out.
It'll be in the film, Fabled Enemies.
But that's only one issue of why we're releasing this.
The other keys here, I mean, the bombs in the building, the fact that there was explosions before Tower 1 or 2 fell, the fact that Giuliani was out of the building, the fact they were told to get out of the building, the fact Giuliani later admitted that, then denied he said it, and then had to admit it.
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We're going to play the very Jennings clip here in just a moment.
But recapping, Barmus, in the next four and a half minutes, break down why we're doing this and why it is important and why it's so big for listeners to get this video out to everybody, to explain to everyone why this is so important.
First of all, it is very important for the listeners to get this out because this totally and completely eviscerates the official version as of the 9-11 Commission Report.
Without a doubt.
So let's go through the points here.
What happened to Barry Jennings?
Point one.
He was called after the first plane strike.
Okay.
So he was in the building prior to the second plane strike.
That is also in the video.
Now, when he's taken up to the Office of Emergency Management on the 23rd floor, he is with Michael Hess, who is the City Corporation Counsel at the time, and now heads up Giuliani Partners.
When they go up to the Office of Emergency Management, which should have been fully manned, it had been deserted.
Okay?
Now, the elevators were all shut off.
They had been taken up by a police triage that was already at the building through a freight elevator.
So, Michael Hess found the stairwell.
They start going down the stairwell, again this is prior to either tower collapsing, and there is a huge explosion from underneath them that pushes them back to the 8th floor.
Now this is all on record.
Now they're stuck in that building hearing all types of explosions thinking that they're going to die until about 12.30 to 1 in the afternoon, when the firefighters finally do come down to get them.
They come to a lobby that is unrecognizable, that is blown to kingdom come.
And this is very important, too, because in this little video, in the wrap-up, I show you what the Millennium Hilton looks like the next day.
Not only on the facade on the outside, but I take you inside the Millennium Hilton, where literally there's still vases, the couches are okay.
By the way, we also have video of the front of Building 7, and it's got a few windows knocked down, and we know that Poplar Mechanics is showing a gray-faced building that's got the corner knocked out when the Building 7 was red.
There seems to be no video corroboration whatsoever for that quote-unquote chunk of the building missing.
Now we also show you in this video footage after at least one of the towers has collapsed of inside building seven where they literally run up to the main lobby from the south face.
Now the south face has a couple windows knocked out but it's not this towering inferno.
There's not quote-unquote twenty five percent of the building scooped out.
Now, another big point is the fact that when Barry Jennings and Michael Hess got out of the building, they both went on separate local news programs and told the exact same story.
It was never followed up upon.
It was only until years later, when we put two and two together, that the man Barry Jennings, who was in the FEMA report describing these explosions, which was brushed off as the first tower falling, was the same man that was on the videos with Michael Hess.
And he says that there were many, many explosions and said even when he had gotten out of the building at one in the afternoon, he was told that he had to get down, I think, 10 or 20 blocks and run because they were having reports of more explosions at the time.
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There is a reason that the Morning Joe on MSNBC, that Glenn Peck on CNN, that Bill O'Reilly, all of them are saying we need to be arrested, we need to be killed, we need to be taken to secret camps and tortured.
Morning Joe, the military needs to be used against us.
And now Michael Reagan, ninth largest radio host in the country, according to Talkers Magazine and others, four million listeners per day, said, kill Mark Deiss, kill 9-11 truthers.
If they talk to the military, if they engage in their First Amendment and expose 9-11 as an inside job, murder them.
He has not been fired, he has not gotten in trouble.
If any of us said, kill people, we would be arrested within hours.
If we said, go out, kill them, I mean it, I'm serious, I'll pay for it, kill them, we'd be arrested.
So, we know this is serious because, look, they understand they're protecting a system.
Most of them know their boss has carried it out.
That makes them even scarier.
That's why Congress goes ahead and does what they're told.
It's not just the payoffs and the money and the corruption.
I mean, it's scary, folks.
We're in a very scary time.
Now, the deputy head of the Office of Emergency Management, Barry Jennings, came out with one of the other government heads that day and said, man, there were bombs, dead people, Building 7 was blowing up.
This is before it even fell.
And then we went and interviewed him, and then he got scared, he got threatened, the spooks found out, we talked to him.
He said, please, I know you, I said you could use it, but don't.
Then I guess they got to him and said, you better talk to the BBC.
He did, and he said stuff like, well, I think there were, it looked like bodies.
I guess it might not have been.
I don't know why there were bombs and explosives going off.
So they're going to try to spin that and they're going to try to make excuses, as I've debated the producer of it on another show a few months ago, about, well, we all knew Building 7 was coming down.
That's why we reported it fell with it right behind us.
Ignoring the cops saying, get back, they're bringing it down, they're going to blow it up.
I mean, ignoring all this.
We've got them, folks!
People always say something this big, they'd be caught.
We're going to go to Mark Dice in a moment, but the point is everybody can feel it, you can see it.
I mean, we had So many people going public.
So many people speaking out.
German defense ministers, high-level members of the British Parliament, members of Blair's government, UN human rights chiefs over whole investigative arms.
We've got former Italian presidents, former intelligence chiefs of Germany.
All of this.
Hollywood stars, best actress, Willie Nelson, Charlie Sheen, Martin Sheen.
All these big rock stars have been going public.
I mean, it's getting Every day now, you can't even keep track of everybody going public, and so they're getting scared and going, look, we'll kill you!
And now, I've been sending a lot of YouTube videos and things, and you'll go to their websites, they'll be Marines or Army, usually Force Recon or Special Ops, they'll have their handle, and most of it's videos of them in training, and it'll be them saying, Stop now or we're going to kill your animals.
I don't want to even give them attention.
Or they'll use a South Park clip saying, we're going to kill a bunny on the bus.
Do what I say, I'm going to kill the bunny.
Stop now or you're dead.
We're now getting all these videos and clips they use for movies about, one more time and you're dead.
And they're sending it to 9-11 truthers.
Or they'll say on their own message board, yeah I'm in the Marines and I can't wait to line you up and shoot you all in the head.
And then you go and they're really in Iraq saying this to us.
And so they're getting scared, folks.
They know we're interfacing with the military.
They know we're interfacing with the police.
They know we're waking the majority of them up.
The New Order needs these people to take over.
They're getting real scared, so they're trying to intimidate us.
And I got news, man.
We're all committed.
I mean, I don't want to die, but at the same time, I'm committed, and if they're forced to kill me, that means I'm really getting to them.
I mean, that means that we're really winning.
And that is a desperate act.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.
As Gandhi said.
So just in closing, Jason, this is huge.
This isn't a cop or a firefighter on the street.
Some EMT we've interviewed who's credible, who people ignore, who said, I heard the countdown, you watch footage of the cops going, get back, it's about to come down, they're about to blow it up!
Or firefighters all, you know, a firefighting captain going, yeah, there was molten metal, you know, running down the channel rails, totally molten, and they say we're lying, there's no molten steel, when NASA's own aircraft show the molten steel thousands of degrees above jet fuel.
The debunking isn't working, don't you understand?
It's over for you terrorists!
And I know your military mindset was, well, we've got to fight the Muslims, they're so evil, we killed 3,000 because Americans are wimps and had to get a wake-up call that it's for your own good.
And if we have to kill more of you for your own good, we will.
That's the ultimate rationale.
Don't you have the feeling we've got the momentum?
Don't you in your gut know we're going to bring you to justice?
I mean, aren't you figuring that out yet?
That we're not going to stop and you can kill us, threaten us?
I mean, you think threatening my children Literally, folks, I was getting burned out.
I was getting exhausted.
I was getting tired.
I was getting to where you guys saw me around the office, you know, just fighting to be able to continue staying focused because I had so much going on in my mind and so much I want to do and so much frustration and so much little minutiae I've got to deal with.
And it threatened my family.
It's like, boom!
Now I suddenly don't have to sleep.
I suddenly am just back in total mode.
You guys have helped me.
I already knew you did it.
I already knew you're murderers and drug dealers and criminals and child sex slave traffickers.
I mean, it's all admitted mainstream news.
But to have you personally threatening me over and over again and threatening others, it lets me know that you really are who we say you are.
It is very important that we have somebody who can have his story corroborated from video of that day, and there is no doubt that he was in Building 7 experiencing these explosions.
And if he comes out and recants all this, why would he tell a newscast and the guy he says he was with tell the same story separately from each other?
Why would he then, five and a half years later, tell you that to then six and a half years later, tell another story to the BBC as he's being promoted up the ranks?
We're going to upload it the next hour to PrisonPlanet.tv.
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Aaron was here until 5 in the morning with Burmess.
He's asleep.
He's going to come in and try to edit some of this video we've just shot here live into the Barry Jennings piece to really let you know how important it is.
There's a video up there right now where Burmess gives the basic facts and then plays it.
It's decent.
It's just I really want to explain why this is so important.
People won't know how important this is unless we explain all those facts.
See, Burmess, we get too close to it.
We're so inside the game and all the names and the facts and the data, we forget that even kind of passive 9-11 truth, a lot of this is Greek to them.
I mean, just a few months ago, we couldn't say who Barry Jennings was, and the debunkers were saying we were lying and it didn't exist.
And I can't believe the BBC thinks going to him and trying to twist what he says.
And what I've been told is he repeats the same thing.
He just kind of says, well, it looked like bodies.
Well, I thought it was bodies.
Well, I thought it was explosions.
Well, they did tell me to get out, but that's because we knew seven, I guess, was going to come down.
Well, why did you know that, see?
But, I mean, let's be clear.
We went to break and you forgot to say.
You told me privately in other discussions off camera.
But then, after he got the heat, just when it leaked, That this went on, now he's trying to, well from what I've been told, he's not completely backing away.
And the point is, he did the BBC, so we're forced to do this.
Because, again, I want to repeat the key, and we're going to go to Mark Dice here, I want to repeat the key to all of this.
That is that Dylan sitting there with the BBC, the same Guy Smith guy that laughs at me and basically admitted to me it was a hit piece in private and said he thinks I'm nuts, who said it wasn't a hit piece up front, kind of disingenuously.
This same guy went and said, well it's a lie, Barry Jennings didn't say that.
It's not true, you don't have video.
And Dylan pulls the video out and I bet my bottom dollar that is not going to be in the film.
Well, Mark Dice, for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, I'm going to continue a four-minute discussion with you and Burmese, and we'll come back with you alone on the main radio network transmission here at Genesis.
Everybody else, go to the InfoWars streams.
You'll be able to hear this right now.
Okay, bring me Mark Dice.
Okay, great.
Yeah, Mark, I don't want to waste any time here, so let's write now for four minutes with you and Jason.
I mean, give us your take on this subject now, then we'll come back and talk about the Reagan stuff.
It's very encouraging that somebody would come forward, and again, we can't fault the man for not wanting to lose his pension and lose his job.
He's got a family to support.
We need to just create this climate that's safe for everybody to get this information out, which is part of what I wanted to do with Operation Inform the Soldiers.
And so the more people that we get out there, the more people that get to address these issues, the safer it will be.
And that's why people say, exactly, people say, oh, it doesn't matter if Willie Nelson or Charlie Sheen or Martin Sheen are Best Actress of the Year or German Defense Ministers or former Italian Presidents or high-level members of the Japanese Congress, Diet.
I mean, we would address these issues to our friends and to our neighbors at a whisper, just afraid of any retribution, even from them.
And so it's gotten from that point now to where most of these talking heads have to admit that a third of the country is on board with us.
And if we just continue to plow forward, continue to get this information out, Non-stop, we're going to get other people to continue to come forward, witnesses, other high-level, key public officials, other professionals, other experts, and so we're not going to stop.
And this loser, Michael Reagan, just energized the movement and galvanized it.
We're going to talk about that when we get back from break, but in the two minutes that we've got here before we come back, I mean, I really am not putting a good face on it, being a cheerleader.
I know we're waking people up, and Mark Dyche, you used that two-and-a-half-year-old number of 36% believing it's a total inside job.
national poll that they put out.
We know from studying polls that if you ask somebody a really radical, shocking question, about half of them will lie and go with the politically correct answer.
So 36% got the Scripps Howard News Service call and said, do you believe the government carried out the attacks?
But even the polling companies, and I've talked to Zogby and others, and they agree with my analysis, it's probably double that number.
It's just another 30-40% weren't willing to say it.
Now, when they've had these spontaneous one-time IP polls, it's always 82-83-84, 82-83-84, on CNN, Fox, every channel has these, and these are somewhat scientific compared to classical polls because you only get one vote per IP.
You know, one only lets you vote once, and you keep getting that 80-plus number.
Okay?
And we get that 80-plus number in Kennedy assassination, that 80-plus number on the war.
80-plus percent of the country doesn't believe a damn thing the government says.
And so I think when we use that 36 number, that is the most conservative.
Yeah, I feel like one third of the country is very aware that 9-11 was an inside job, and this is the third of the country that's actually paying attention, Alex.
This is the one that kind of goes through the mainstream media on a daily basis, but also comes to Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and all these other alternative websites.
Within the youth, I would say it's probably even double that for sure.
If they were to take a poll of people 25 and under, I think that you would see 60 to 70 percent.
Listen, I'll be at the gym around, you know, old guys, you know, executives or whatever, and they'll go, hey, Alex Jones, and I'll go, and it'll be both guys on both sides of me.
I go, what do you think of the show?
You're probably right about it, but what are we going to do?
And I'm like, what about 9-11?
And he goes, oh, hell, I was in Special Forces in Korea.
Don't have to tell me about it.
I mean, I was at the beach and old men were down there in the exercise area and they were agreeing.
I mean, it just seems like everybody... Oh, we're going back live.
Yeah, over 60 videos, a three-year-old account almost, and just numerous links, hundreds of links to those videos, and the entire account has been closed.
I filed a counter suit with YouTube, trying to get it back up, trying to make them understand that this is just a A fair use claim?
Attorney's Office will not be pressing charges against him for his comments and any other future threats against me by his listeners or by anybody else will then be investigated, those people individually.
But Michael Reagan himself has officially been let off the hook and still has a job.
Now, this sets a precedent, but don't believe that for a minute.
If I go on air and even say hypothetically, and I'm not saying do this hypothetically, if I said, go kill Michael Reagan, I'll pay for the bullets, hell, the cops may edit that and come arrest me right now.
I would go to prison immediately.
They'd probably kill me in the SWAT team, right?
They use any excuse to come kill you nowadays.
That's how it works.
Not only that, but his listeners would then call for violence against you and for others, and it just goes to show the state of our hearts, the state of the We don't want any violence against him until we take the republic back and then they all get due process.
We know he went to the White House, got propaganda points.
That's illegal.
We know he's on their payroll.
Then he will be brought to justice in a Nuremberg-style trial.
It's interesting, the president of his radio syndicator, Radio America, his name is Jim Roberts, he's also the president of the American Veterans Center, and the American Veterans Center and Radio America's headquarters is literally five miles away from the White House, across the river.
Yeah, and this is a man that's on a school board, so we're trying to get him removed from the board.
Maybe we can give out the number to the American Veterans Center.
This is the center that's in charge of the United States Memorial Day Parade in Washington, D.C.
It's a very large, very powerful veterans group, and this president, Jim Roberts, is also the head of this syndication company, and they're taking no action against Reagan for his comments.
The number for the American Veterans Center is 703- 302-1012 or you could go to AmericanVeteransCenter.org and if we can't get a hold of him or his studio at Reagan at Radio America is not responding then maybe we can get through to the American Veterans Center and reach Mr. Jim Roberts over there again.
As you know, in Germany, from 33 to about 40, they would let the SA, the SS beat up whoever they wanted, rob whoever they wanted, harass, and it all started like this.
And just thank God we've got our Second Amendment to protect ourselves.
And I just feel sorry for anybody that tries anything violent with you or me or anybody else.
Because folks, we're not looking for a fight, but you, anybody lays a hand on me, I'm going to kill you so fast, it's going to make your head spin.
I'm armed.
I will defend myself.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
I want to talk to you during the break.
Okay, Mark, I wanted to bring Burmese in during this segment again.
Burmese, anything else you want to add to all this?
By the way, we're going to put a DivX version of Truth Rising for PrisonPlanet.tv members and it's made, and most of the new players are DivX, they'll play both kinds, and so this is a huge activist tool.
We're going to do that, a DivX version for PrisonPlanet.tv members.
Yeah, and you can literally put four movies on a 4.7 gigabyte disc that'll play in DVD quality no problem on these players and that's what we need to do.
We need to keep informing the troops.
We need to keep giving them more and more information so when they come back here they're not all jack-booted up to shoot me in the nuts.
It doesn't matter how many of these threats I get by all these disgusting talk shows.
When you're literally advocating not only the death of babies, but the murders of their mothers as well, and that the only way that the Middle East is ever going to become peaceful is if we kill all of them.
And by the way, he's on the Armed Forces Radio Network.
They then sit off the road, these young 18-year-olds, totally whacked out of their minds, and the family drives by in a minivan, and they just shoot them, and they fall out dying with their children, and they laugh, and then the military admits these are real videos, and Marines post on the pages and say, yeah, they're real, and we're going to take over and kill you, Alex Jones!
Okay, I'm going to give you some financial news in about five minutes.
I appreciate Mark Dice popping in with us.
Mark, you've got the floor.
I just want to say you did a great job with that Michael Reagan interview.
It sounded to me from the YouTube clip like they'd edited some of your interview that you did with him in a taped interview, but they did air that, thank God.
And you did a great job there.
We need to see Operation Inform the Troops intensify.
They did edit out one part where I informed his listeners that it was a pre-recorded show that was 8.30 in the morning my time, and I wanted everybody to know it was a pre-recorded show.
I took precautions to ensure that they wouldn't edit out any important information.
Also, yeah, I don't want this to overshadow Operation Inform the Soldiers.
Another aspect, what we can do is send them CDs of the Alex Jones Show and other shows, other broadcasts, Send them CDs on MP3 or even burn a CD as a WAV file so they can listen to it in their Discman or give them some flash drives or some MP3s.
Yeah, another aspect, not only just sending it overseas, but here at Camp Pendleton, California, other military bases around the country to the soldiers before they even go over there.
So they can spread the word amongst their own groups and amongst their peers and their commanding officers over here so that they know what's going on and that once the higher-ups know, that everybody knows, their whole system's just going to come collapsing down.
It's coming down and I mean every day now more and more people are waking up and so there was a time when I felt like there was a lull in 9-11 truth or I myself was starting to doubt whether we're going to get this information out whether even anybody in the mainstream media was going to cover these issues and Just when I start losing faith, something happens, another big prominent official, another expert comes forward, another instance, another confrontation from one of these criminals on the streets, or a book signing happens, it's posted to the web, makes it to the news.
If we weren't on the offensive, they would have already staged more attacks, we'd already be in Iran.
And so this, we're trying to save lives.
They can intimidate us and use staged terror events to get the public to buy the end of the Fourth Amendment, the end of the Fifth, the end of the Second, the end of the First, which they're attacking all wholesale and dismantling.
If they're able to sell all this, they would have been able to get away with it.
But now, everybody knows they're torturing, murdering, drug dealing killers.
Everybody knows they killed Kennedy.
The shadow government is now being exposed.
And now it gives protection to good men and women in the CIA, good people in the FBI, good people in the military, to more and more say no, to more and more talk about all the army investigators they've murdered.
General Togumbo, the head Army Brigadier General, who just retired, came out and said, yeah, the government tortures kids, it's murder, it's war crimes, the cover-up's got to be exposed.
And it's literally because they like torturing children.
And they also like setting the precedent that if they can be the good guys and torture children in the ways that, you know, that... Notice how Reagan said the same kind of things that are in the White House orders?
You see, I mean, imagine putting orders out saying, sodomize little kids.
I mean, these people... And I have to argue with people and say that's wrong, Mark Dice?
I'm sure that they're going to be pulling those clips as well, and we just got to continue making copies of them, getting them out there, reposting them.
And Alex, I got to run, but I want to appreciate, I want to thank everybody for their courage and for helping us out and getting the word out, and just a hat tip to everybody out there.
All right, Mark Dice, we'll keep checking in with you as this develops.
YouTube account shut down.
Put pressure on them and phone numbers up on the side.
Thank you.
All right, there goes Mark Dice at work popping in with us.
We're only 23 minutes away from Jordan Maxwell.
23 minutes away from a two-hour interview with Jordan.
I called Jordan about two months ago and he said, oh I'm getting too many threats, too many government people visiting me, threatening me, and I believe it's happening to us.
And he said, I'm not going to do the interview.
And he actually told people that on the web.
And then he decided to do interviews, but now he's getting more stuff happening, and I appreciate him coming on today.
He's got cancer, he's 70-something years old, and he's a real treasure.
But we were able to get him booked again last week, and so he's on the show today, and that is coming up.
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We're going to be talking to an individual who for more than 50 years Coming up on 50 plus has been fighting the New World Order.
We've been having icons on the show like Gilbert Griffin and many others, but I really can't think of anybody when it comes to really delving deeply into the New World Order and exposing so many dark secrets that we now just take as commonplace knowledge.
So much of it was pioneered and rediscovered because it was all there in the ancient documents and text by Jordan Maxwell.
Before we go to Jordan, you can pre-order my new film, 9-11 Chronicles, Truth Rising, Part 1, Truth Rising.
And the way the world's going, who knows if there'll be a Part 2?
But it's got Willie Nelson in it, it's got Governor Jesse Ventura, it's got a video interview with George Carlin, who died last night, of course, in Southern California of heart failure, talking about how the government wouldn't have an investigation in 9-11, they wouldn't investigate something they did.
They wouldn't investigate themselves.
I mean, it's got everybody.
Martin Sheen, it's got the head of democracy now saying 9-11 should be investigated, Building 7 should be investigated.
Michael Moore saying it could be an inside job and that firefighters have told him there were bombs in the buildings.
We've got to expand the description that's up on the Infowars.com shopping cart, because it mainly gets into how we confront Schwarzenegger, and how we confront Lynne Cheney, and how just all these people get confronted, hundreds of people.
Barack Obama, I mean, the list goes on and on.
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basically taking over Bill Maher's show.
So, it's a story of people standing up, taking action, having a great effect, confronting Bill Clinton, Hillary, Bill Clinton blowing up, admitting Bohemian Grove, admitting Bilderberg, meltdowns, the media saying kill us, arrest us, But woven through this is the firefighters, police and military and EMTs dying of the dust.
The government documents where they knew it was going to kill them and decided not to give them health care.
All of that is in the film.
And it just completely devastates their official story.
Truth Rising will ship July 5th, so the official release date is July 4th.
It will be on PrisonPlanet.tv midnight, the day July 4th starts.
So as July 3rd ends, that Thursday, on that Friday morning, Throughout Friday, it will be posted in a bunch of different formats.
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Flash, a bunch of other systems, super high quality for PrisonPlanet.tv members.
Get it out to people, folks.
And yes, you can order the DVD now.
The DVD is being mass replicated right now.
I'm supposed to get them middle of next week, and so we will have them before it even ships, and then we'll be packaging them up later next week, and they will all ship out on that Saturday and then that next Monday after July 4th.
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Okay.
I'm really excited about having Jordan Maxwell on the show.
I kind of woke up to the New World Order on my own, or kind of on the John Birch Society route.
I wasn't part of the John Birch Society, but read stuff like, None Dare Call a Conspiracy, The Private Fellow Deserved, and then I learned about Ron Paul fifteen years ago and got a radio show and was kind of a mainline conservative Republican who was anti-New World Order.
Then I found out that that party was controlled.
I mean, even as late as nineteen Ninety-eight.
Ninety-nine.
I wouldn't get into the occult on air.
I wouldn't talk about it.
I didn't believe it.
I thought, hey, the Federal Reserve is private.
They do want a world government for their administrative convenience.
It is bad, but there's no occult and, you know, there's dumb conspiracy theorists.
There's no black helicopters.
There's no FEMA camp plans.
And then Delta Force invaded Texas.
They bribed police chiefs.
I interviewed them.
I found out they had martial law plans with the San Antonio police chief and the emergency managers.
And then I found out about Bohemian Grove, and I found out it was real, and I infiltrated it.
So really, I am a Johnny-come-lately.
It doesn't matter, we're all Johnny-come-latelys.
In this short life we have, the point is we can all move forward, take action.
And then I remember Chris Athanas, in about 98, 99, putting Jordan Maxwell videos on.
Local access and I remember watching those and looking into it and I already knew a lot of Egyptian history and other history and so I knew it was accurate because I'd already independently learned it but never put it into thought of what was happening today.
So he really helped wake me up to a larger world and larger view and Jordan Maxwell continues as a preeminent researcher.
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uh... this uh... gentleman today so jordan maxwell dot com jordan maxwell thank you for coming on with us well thank you alex for having me on uh... yeah i just uh... i can't tell you how much i appreciate your your support and the things you've said and i uh... i thank you for it and yes it's true that uh... i was interested in these subjects as far back as well when i was a you know teenager and
And even earlier, when I was a kid, I used to ask my parents and ask the adults around me questions, and they just would look at me with glassy eyes, and they had no idea in the world what I was talking about, and consequently, I just never understood why people weren't interested in the things that I was, you know?
And so, at 18 years old, I moved to California, And by myself, ended up in Los Angeles with $9 in my pocket.
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with $9 in my pocket in downtown L.A.
And somehow or another, I lived through all of it, but I was fascinated with how much people don't know and how much people don't care to know.
And I hear people today say, why don't the Why doesn't the government tell us the truth, and why doesn't the educational institutes really tell us the truth?
I think it's because they, the Illuminati, know that we, generally speaking, don't want the truth.
Now, I've had Jordan Alitas come up to me, I mean, high-level members of government and others, and say, Alex, and they always say, this is off-record, right?
And I'm a journalist, so it has to be off-record.
And they say, look, the slaves don't want to know.
I mean, I have to say that that is pretty much true.
And then I also want to ask the question.
How important is it to tell the people the real truth?
I mean, like the movie with, uh, you know, when the, when the military guy was asked by the, uh, the kid, you know, well, what do you want?
He said, I want to know the truth.
And he said, you can't handle the truth.
Um, how important is it to tell people the real truth?
Because what you're doing, uh, and I've learned this the hard way, what you're doing is you're putting your life on the line.
For people who will be entertained for a while hearing you, but they will go on with their regular lives as they always have, watching basketball and doing what they normally do, and life will go on.
Of course, you had the big mouth and was telling people something that they weren't supposed to know, so you end up in trouble, maybe even end up dead or in prison.
The Internal Revenue finds a bad I think what you're saying is people don't need to take this for granted.
They need to appreciate your work, my work, so many others, because it's dangerous and it's valuable.
You got that right.
while you're sitting in prison, they're out at the kids' baseball game, because they were just entertained by you.
So the question is, are we casting pearls before swine?
We've got a break, Jordan, a quick break.
We'll come back.
You've got the floor.
But I want to do this interview a little bit different than other interviews, because you don't like talking about yourself.
I want to make you talk about your history, your awakening, because I found talking about people's awakenings tends to wake others up.
Your journey, and then I want to get into the basics of the New World Order, their greatest secrets, kind of Jordan Maxwell's greatest hits, because I want to understand your life, your awakening, and then where you see the New World Order going, and we'll take calls.
Jordan Maxwell is our guest.
He is feeling well today.
He'll be with us for the next hour and 40 minutes, maybe longer.
We'll see.
Stay with us.
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Well, yeah, I was 18 when I came to Los Angeles, and I had no idea why.
I just felt I had to go somewhere.
Originally, I'm from the South, I'm from Florida, and I ended up in Los Angeles back in 59.
And I had no idea why I was here or what I was going to do with my life, but I just was drawn to the fact that I wanted to know.
And so many people today just don't want to know, and so
That's what drove me and I've done what I have done with nothing for so many years because I have always appreciated the people who made themselves available for me by doing tapes and records and lectures and teachers who I could go to to learn the things that my heart was burning to know and I would attend all the lectures I could
Read everything I could get my hands on, because I wanted to know and I really appreciated those people many years ago that were there out on the front lines like you are today, making the information available so that I could learn.
And so that's what I wanted to do with my life at 19 years old, is to gather up as much information as possible and make it available to all that wanted to hear.
And so I was very idealistic about that.
But I discovered something.
I'll tell you a big secret that I discovered.
It took me many years to figure it out.
But people will always support what they want to hear.
They will not support what they don't want to hear.
And if you like country music, you're not going to pay money for an opera.
If you like classical music, you're not going to pay money to go to an acid rock concert.
So people will always support what they want to hear.
And so I always assumed as a young person that people were like me.
They wanted to know the truth.
And so I later on discovered that no, most of the time people do not want to know the truth.
They will look at something, see that it's wrong, and then prefer to, as Churchill said, every now and then you'll stumble on the truth, but then you'll pick yourself up, brush yourself off, and go on, act like you never saw it.
And just go on and live your life and go to the ball game and have a good time.
And one day, what comes around goes around.
One day, what you should have looked at, you should have been concerned about, well, when it comes to you finally, and you finally have to see what you could have seen years ago, but you didn't want to.
Well, that's what I wanted to do, is to make this kind of information Uh, that I was interested in, available to everyone.
And, uh, you mentioned John Birch Society.
As far back as 19... I think they were founded in 1959 in Belmont, Massachusetts.
Well, I used to send research articles to Belmont back in 1961, 62, and 63 to the Birch Society as it was just getting going.
I was doing a lot of research on my own on, uh, On fascism, Nazism, communism, all of the different movements of the bankers, etc.
So I would just send in articles, and sometimes I'd see some of my work being incorporated into their literature.
And then I began to connect with all kinds of researchers and writers.
And the more I learned, the more I realized how much I don't know.
I realize, too, that most people don't want to know, and that's what really frightened me, because now we're faced with something that is just absolutely beyond most people's ability to even grasp.
And I have no words for it, because I know that this country and this republic cannot be saved as long as there's a flaw in the thinking of the people.
Look at your decisions in life are only as good as your information.
And if you are not willing to look at all of the truth, then you don't have it yet.
And as long as you don't have it all, any attorney will tell you before going into court, if you don't have everything going for you, then don't go.
Don't even try because you're not going to win because you don't know the facts yet.
So that's what I'm trying to do is help people to learn All the things that they will never be privy to know because they haven't taken the time to do the research.
They don't have the time.
They got wives and families.
Well, I don't have anyone.
And I've lost my wife because of my work.
I've lost my family.
I lost everything I own.
Three times my office was broken into and everything I own in the world was taken.
And consequently, I paid a heavy price for doing what I do, but I just love Trying to educate and teach people and at least waking them up to what's going on.
And Jordan, I want to continue along that and I want to go back and talk about your first research.
You know, what led to what?
What you were first into?
I would imagine the private Federal Reserve, the fascist bankers, funding the left and the right.
Because I know from some of your writings that is some of the first things you covered.
Let's get into that when we come back and then Well, I've got some really extraordinarily important materials on my website that you can't find anywhere else.
Tell the viewers and the listeners out there about some of the books and videos and things that are available on your website.
Well, I've got some really extraordinarily important materials on my website that you can't find anywhere else.
I've got three books right on the home page that I, two of them I own the books.
I own the copyright.
That was so important to me.
I got the companies.
They were very old books I found in an old bookstore.
And that was so important to me.
I got a grant from the Truth Seeker company that I was working with and got the attorneys to give me the copyright to the two books, so I owned them.
And I got grants for a publisher to publish them because I felt it was so extraordinarily important.
And two of them are right on my homepage.
There's a third one called Occult Theocracy.
That one you cannot buy at any price anywhere, and it's just such an important book on tracing the cults and the secret societies, all of them through the ages.
It's called Occult Theocracy.
And all of it's right there in the e-books.
You can download it immediately, get it immediately.
And of course all the different, if you go to my download pages, all kinds of extraordinarily interesting documents and materials that it's taken me years to find.
And of course I have a lot of DVDs and tapes and things too.
But mostly I'm interested in those things which most people will never be privileged to know even exist.
I want to run over some of the greatest secrets, but first let's talk about More of Your Awakening, when we get back on the main program in just a moment, and then let's talk about basically what the biggest secrets are, the keys to this, and then we're also going to spend a lot of time on those books before the show ends, because some stations only carry the last hour that's coming up.
We want to make sure people go to the website and get those.
Those are very hard to get books.
Here we go.
Jordan Maxwell is our...
We're going to talk more about his awakening, his process of awakening, that journey.
And then we're going to get into, basically, the biggest secrets he discovered, the bottom line on how it works, and what the globalist New World Order, a cult kingdom, a cult theocracy's master plan is, with Jordan Maxwell.
Today, the website jordanmaxwell.com, a lot of books, very old books that he owns the copyright to that really break down how they run and control things are there available at jordanmaxwell.com.
Before we end the show, we'll also get out a number where you can call and get some of those books and videos.
There's also a lot of free videos and things in the download section.
Just be sure and check it out.
A picture gallery, great website, JordanMaxwell.com.
You know, I took off last week and went with my family to the Texas beach to spend a few days with them.
And while I was out on the beach, I wrote notes, about 20 pages of notes of what I thought was most important in life.
And one of the things I wrote in here is that I was really thinking about what makes me up, who I am.
And I thought about being a young man and being ego driven and wanting to be tough and good looking and wanting to get in fights with bullies and kind of those base type things you do when you're young, but that's normal.
It's a hierarchy of needs.
It's a journey we're all on.
And I thought about how I still fall back into ego sometimes, but less and less.
It's almost like a long-lost forgotten friend, because it's a great source of energy, ego, but it also blinds you.
And I remember decades ago, people would tell me about ego.
I couldn't even grasp the concept, even in psychology class, because I was still so controlled by ego when I was 18, 19 years old.
But now I understand what it is.
I'm totally separate from my quote, mind.
I can pull back, look at myself, warts and all.
I can analyze what makes humans tick, how we operate, the basic engineering, the basic genetics, what our true values are, what we're truly meant to do, and at the final equation, laying down your life for your neighbor
Means that you save yourself, because when you have that attitude of laying down your life for your neighbor, when you do have courage, when you do care about others, when you're not greedy and filled with hate, when you're not just self-centered, you truly are conscious and can now use your brain, and you understand that in a society where we care about each other, and that means sometimes fighting against evil, that doesn't mean just laying back and being a wimp, that you have a better society, a dynamic system.
Does it mean we're ever perfect?
No, but we're reaching towards something better.
And being there, you know, at the beach, laying in the sand, watching my children play and build sand castles, and seeing God's beautiful creation, you know, the firmament.
You know, just looking at how wonderful this world is and how Madison Avenue has trained us to feel inadequate, to be unhappy, to not see how great things are, but to not also be able to see all the evil that's in the world at the same time.
People are basically blind to the beauty and blind to the ugliness.
They've been stunted and kind of shrunken down.
They're looking at the world through a Through a straw.
They're seeing such a limited perspective.
And I have a desire to see them have pleasure.
I have a desire to see them be free.
I have a desire to see them do well.
I have a desire, kind of a builder's desire, which is what we're all meant to be, creators, to see their minds unlocked.
And I have a desire to learn more and to challenge myself and to really know the truth.
And it's painful to realize that a lot of them don't want to do that, and they want to be caught in snares, and they want to be killed, and they want to have fluoride put in their water, and they want to be injected with cancer, and they want to give their kids mercury shots, and they don't want to know the truth.
And I wanted to ask Jordan this question, or make this statement and get his take on it, and I wrote here in a little book That I realize that the instinct to want to build something better for the tribe is a human instinct, and to realize that the human community is bigger than just yourself, and that I want to pass better things on to people, and that all the good things we have is because other good people before us pass them on to us.
There's always been this struggle of good and evil within our own species that's being directed and controlled from above, and you can debate what that intelligence is, and Jordan gets into that, but certainly, for those who have studied, it's there, and the elite know it's there, and communicate with it.
With both sides of it, or whatever it is.
God.
But then they control it and put out a false facsimile for the public.
But my only message is that I'm not just some do-gooder.
I want to transmit knowledge.
I want to tell people the mistakes I've made.
I want to let them know.
I want them to see pitfalls.
And I want to write.
I want to make films.
And it's because I want to communicate with the future.
And I can almost feel Tangibly.
I do feel it, but is it a facsimile in my mind or is it real?
The bouncing back from the future, the information I've already put out, I can feel the good it's created and I can feel it tangibly coming back at me from the future and I know that I stand on the shoulders of those in the past and I can feel myself with my ancestors and others looking back into the past and into the future.
And if you really want to get down to what makes Alex Jones tick, at the end of the day, when Jordan was just talking, I was going to share this later in the week, it's that I want to make things better for those in the future.
Because I live on through them.
I live on through their pleasure and their pain and their exaltation and the births and the deaths and the lives that were all part of a larger species, like a cell in a larger
uh... organism in the new world order knows that and tries to block us off from ever becoming truly human and communing with our own species in the universe jordan i didn't mean to spend five minutes to learn everything you have to say but i wanted to say that to you because you talked about wanting to know wanting to warn others having this drive this instinct and i absolutely am a kindred spirit with you on that point is that i have this desire to warn people and to know and learn more myself well uh...
I'm so happy that you said those things, because that's exactly what I was going to say.
And I'm older and more tired than you are, so you said it so much better than I would have said it.
That's exactly what I feel.
Precisely what you said is exactly what I feel.
When I was young, when I was younger, I was filled with the zeal for knowledge and wisdom and understanding and questioning everything and talking to all the Adults that were out there writing and speaking publicly.
I love knowledge and I love the idea of helping my fellow man.
I love watching young people.
Their eyes light up when you show them something they've never seen before.
It's the instinct of a teacher.
And the older I grew, the more I loved talking to audiences and helping them to understand.
Because, you know, like the Apostle Paul says, teach yourself when helping others so I was learning and I was trying to transmit all the things I was learning to other people but when I took my work publicly back in 1988 I decided to go public and instead of the little Mickey Mouse venues that I had been speaking at the little mom-and-pop bookstores You emerged from the underground.
Yes, yes.
I had been speaking at little venues, small little venues around Los Angeles.
As far back as 1961 and 62, I was giving lectures in libraries and little small groups, ladies' home groups, and all these little venues on secret societies, Bible codes, Knights Templars, Nazi fascism, all of the different secret societies that were operating and how they were connected behind the scenes in European bloodlines.
All of that back in the 60s, early 60s, but it wasn't until I was introduced to the work of Myron Fagan, Anthony Hilda put out the records set on Illuminati, That was in late 66.
Well I got a copy of it almost right after they came out.
Let me interrupt briefly and see if you're on the same page or can expand.
This is for people that are listeners of mine and think that I know more or Jordan knows more than you do.
Let me explain something.
When you get so close to a problem and you understand the different sectors of it, you can be called a master of understanding the New World Order.
As Jordan said, you realize how much you don't know.
And so I would imagine you discovered thousands of things that Myron Fagan didn't know, but that was the last piece, or the master key, the Rosetta Stone, that the tumblers flipped, and then you went, because I know your research, to a whole new level past him, but we have to understand that it was that step that brought you to the next level, and then you bring others, and then you learn more from new people, and then we just exponentially learn.
And so I was then hot on the track of Illuminati as a philosophical concept.
And so I was living in UCLA libraries, USC, Berkeley, I was all over the state.
I personally went to all of those because we didn't have the computers and the technology we have today.
So I personally Spent years at UCLA's research library, general research.
USC, I used to spend days and weeks and months at USC and the stacks late at night photocopying documents from old books.
And so the more I learned, the more I knew how much I didn't know.
And I was fascinated with every day.
I was learning things and it was as if the spirit Was bringing me people and bringing things to me because it's as if the spirit in the universe knew that I wanted to know and that I was eager to learn.
And so I was meeting all kinds of interesting people.
And, uh, I, it was just blowing my mind.
And, and then, uh, like I said, about 1988, after I, I had a nervous breakdown because I lost my wife.
I lost my family.
I lost everything.
But those things happen in life, but I wasn't ready for it, and too much of it came too quickly, and it just overwhelmed me, and I just broke down.
And so, you know, that was a terrible blow to me because she just decided she's had enough.
That's it.
She doesn't want... She used to tell me all the time, why don't you just get a job and be like everybody else and just go along the get along.
And I said, my God did not bring me into this world to go along to get along my god brought me here to be who i am and to do what i do i have a high respect for the for the concept of the divine force in the universe that men call god i believe that people certain people are brought here purposely to do work and and uh so i i have a very high regard for spiritual things but not for the whole
Yeah, not for the corporation's silly ball that we call the religions today, jumping around on stages with their diamond rings and their effeminate haircuts and jumping around falling down.
It's just an incredible display of stupidity.
Look, think about this.
If you were to go to a particular school for 40 years and study one subject for 40 years and one day come out of that 40 years of study and can't even read or form a sentence correctly and cannot hold an intelligent conversation with your fellow man, what kind of a school is that that you've spent all your life in and can't even read?
Well, the same thing is true with so many Christians who have been Christians all their life, and spent all their life pursuing a church, teachings, and have no idea in the world what certain words mean, the etymology of words and terms and symbols, corporate logos, flags, Where concepts have come from.
And they have Benny Hinn and all those guys, and it's turned out they get government financing to start them off to make it look stupid, to actually turn spiritual people off.
And I've noticed, I want to get your take on this, that the Illuminati, the Globalists are all Whether it's Ted Turner, Maurice Strong, Prince Philip, David Rockefeller, they're all deeply occultic, deeply into this Illuminati religion of killing their fellow humans for the greater good of Gaia, but then they finance all the atheist groups to tell people there's nothing.
So they really want to turn people off from a true spiritual experience, don't they?
Everywhere you go, you see sexual symbols, occult stuff... And Crouch, admittedly, has all his homosexual mistresses, but then he speaks out against gay people on his show, and then publicly has all his male mistresses.
And look at... I used to be... My friend died, but a very bright guy, who was just an interesting man, lived down in Balboa Island.
I used to go down to see him, and he worked at a liquor store.
He was very wealthy, but just to have something to do, he worked at a liquor store on the island, Balboa Island.
And he used to tell me, I'd go down to sit on the wharf and talk with him about theology and religion.
Very, very bright guy.
And he would tell me, you know in my liquor store, all the officials from TBN come and buy their booze, and they buy them by cases.
Paul and Jane Crouch come down and buy Thousands of dollars in booze and whiskey and all kinds and throw their big parties and... I was just thinking to myself, you know, the people are so stupid.
Hey, uh, we're gonna be... Uh, all the officials from TPN come and buy their booze and they buy them by cases.
Uh, Paul and Jan Crouch come down and buy thousands of dollars in booze and whiskey and all kinds and throw their big parties and I was just thinking to myself, you know, the people are so stupid.
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Jimi Hendrix had tapped into what was really going on.
I love the part of this song that says, there are many here among us who think that life is but a joke.
Nobody up in this world Hey They are... The mind is an incredible thing.
If they willfully want to be stupid and want to be in denial, their mind will engineer itself to build into that reality.
That's what Jordan was saying earlier.
They will decide to believe a lie.
They will decide to be fools.
I can have the Chicago Tribune admitting Dyncor and Halliburton, kidnapped over a million women and children, put them in slave camps, sell them to people to make snuff films.
They even admit it in the newspaper.
Nobody goes to jail.
Trillions are missing from the Pentagon.
I have all the government documents where they put cancer viruses in the vaccines, poisons in our water.
You tell a yuppie that and they just laugh at you.
It's funny to them.
It's funny because they couldn't face the reality of how horrifying it really is.
They are cowards.
And I'm not somebody full of courage.
If somebody's attacking me, I want to stop it.
But see, these cowards are so cowardly, they could have a lion ripping their guts out and they'd probably deny it and go into a blackout and say, a lion isn't tearing my guts out.
Boy, I can't comment on it, because you said exactly what I'm thinking.
That's precisely the point, that the public has left their sanity.
cutting his hand off and he's sitting there humming happily in his mind and they say, oh, he's left us, I'm afraid.
You know, the public has left us, I'm afraid.
Jordan Maxwell, your take on the comments I just made.
Finishing up with Crouch, though, I grew up by Bob Tilton, Larry Lee, a bunch of other preachers, and I didn't see the Lees doing a bunch of partying, but with Tilton and some others, I mean, I saw incredible stuff that I won't even say on air in our neighborhood.
That's what I'm talking about, but people love it.
I mean, every time you turn on television, the place is just crowded with people, and they're just enjoying it.
And what just blows my mind on this is that you see thousands and thousands of people, you know, coming to these churches to listen, and they're learning nothing.
Actually, intellectually learning nothing.
And, you know, 20 years later, they're still jumping around.
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Okay, going back to Jordan Maxwell.
This is another short break and a long one's coming up, Jordan, but I'm going to go ahead and skip this break to note the network so we can continue to 20 after.
You know, I never get into infighting.
I never really talk about groups fighting with each other.
People tried to even get us to, you know, pick fights with each other.
They tried to get other people to do it.
I've noticed you never get involved in all that, Jordan, but you have pioneered so much of the research that is now the mainstay of a lot of people out there.
And then I get people emailing me saying, what's going on with Jordan Maxwell and this researcher?
What's going on with Jordan Maxwell and that researcher?
And then I go look it up and find out you've said nothing or done nothing.
And that's how the disinfo people, they're key at getting us to fight with each other.
But just on record, tell me about some of the people you woke up to the New World Order, some of the people you educated, who then kind of took your work and then added on to it or did their own thing.
Go through some of the folks that we could say that you first met or that you woke up.
Well, a classic example is back in 1988 when I first started going public.
I had a family that I was very close to here.
And one of the boys, I mean, one of the girls in the family, her name was Gloria.
Gloria was a young girl.
She used to come over to my office in Glendale when I was first going public, and she would tell me about how she just loved what I was doing and loved all the research.
And I knew her, I knew the family, and so I suspected nothing.
And she asked if she could photocopy all my documents and materials that I was Working on it, of course.
So I gave her boxes upon boxes over a two-day period.
It was a photocopy shop in the building I was in, so she just spent all day, all afternoon and all evening photocopying all the research materials and documents and everything that I had.
And later on, about a year later, I get a phone call from a mutual friend that knew both Gloria and myself, and said, Jordan, you know, there's a new book out with all of your work in it.
Uh, the guy's name was Fritz Springmeier.
It's called Bloodlines of the Illuminati.
And I was shocked.
And I, so I called Fritz Springmeier and I said, Fritz, what is this book, Bloodlines of the Illuminati?
And he said, well, uh, Jordan, anybody could have done that kind of research.
Anybody could have done that.
I said, yeah, anyone could have done it, but it was me that did it.
And consequently, uh, you know, now it's a big book out there, Bloodlines of the Illuminati.
Which French spring mare got from Jordan Maxwell and never even said thank you.
I mean, I gave John Rapoport a job, but he didn't have a job and sat for hours with John Rapoport and told him about my work in San Diego when I brought him in and hired him to work with me.
Later on, he creates a book called The Secret Behind Secret Societies.
It's all my work.
And of course, I worked with Richard Hoagland and Zachariah Sitchin around the world five times.
I met the company of Truth Seekers, and Zachariah I have the highest respect for, a wonderful man.
And Richard Holguin, still a great friend of mine.
But I've worked with so many people, and then when I hear lecturers like Jim Mars and Tex Mars, especially Jim Mars, talking about Illuminati and secret societies, I think, hell, I was talking about that stuff back in 62!
But Jordan, I mean, that's also a sign of your success and Myron Fagan's and others that we do want other people to go out and put the information out.
I mean, I was the first guy before 9-11 to say they're going to attack the World Trade Centers, and day one I came out and said it's an inside job.
And then people came along and said, Alex Jones, you know, he's bad.
It's not an inside job.
And those same people a year later would say they're the fathers of the 9-11 truth movement, and I'm a Johnny come lately.
It is very frustrating, and I think what you're saying is, after a long, fruitful life, it's still very fruitful, you want the credit that's due to you.
I think the point you're trying to make here is, let me guess, because I've seen some of this, I'm not really guessing, you get accused of taking their work.
So it's kind of like you're a computer programmer who developed the program and then it's not just that they use your program, they then say it's their program.
Well, Jordan, some stations aren't hearing this little segment.
We're back to the full audience in about 30 seconds.
Let's come in, make clear that it's the point, that it isn't that you even want credit, it's that People then get credit for your work.
So there's a big difference there.
And then let's also talk about some of the things you've gone through.
And then let's get into some of the biggest secrets in just a moment.
And we'll also try to get you some of that support that you need.
Because I know Anthony Hilder.
I know you.
I know that you are one of the very first people to really expose all this at a very deep level.
And I want you to know I'm very thankful for you.
Here we go.
He's the t-rex of political talk Alex Jones on the GCN radio network Okay to be clear Jordan has always been a very magnanimous very friendly very Helping generous person and I've talked to him on and off air his main point is Like you said in your own words, is that it's not that only that people take a lot of his work and don't give him credit.
It's that he then gets emails and posts about, oh this person came out with this and Jordan took it.
And I think that's, and then people start fights up between people.
I was just talking to Jordan, he's saying he won't be doing very many interviews in the future.
It was hard to even get Jordan on.
We called him a few months ago, he said he wasn't doing interviews.
anymore and then later he called back and said okay i'll come on which we're very thankful for he is ill he needs our support he needs our financial support he deserves that and we'll tell you how to get some of his books and videos before he leaves us they're all at jordanmaxwell.com i mean there you go but we'll talk more about them but i mean let's walk through that specifically on your own words uh you were telling me during the last little behind the scenes interview we were doing for the prison planet.tv viewers that that that yes that people make these fights up
and i think it is people in the government disinfo to to to get researchers fighting where people will then say jordan maxwell took this guy's research and you're laughing because you were around 40 years before they even showed up You were around before I was a zygote in my mother's womb.
You were doing this, you know, 40 years before, you know, other people popped up on the scene.
I've said that even to audiences that some of the people that are out there talking today about this subject of secret societies, the Illuminati, Bible codes, Knights Templars, international banking, all of that stuff I was talking about back in the 60s, early 60s, 62, like I said, a beginning.
I used to send a lot of articles to the Burt Society way back in 1661.
I was giving a lecture in downtown Hollywood, in East Hollywood, to a Christian group the day that John Kennedy was assassinated.
I was giving a lecture in downtown Hollywood on secret societies and occult religions.
I mean, let's briefly talk about some of the shoulders that you and others stand on so that we can stand on yours in this fight against tyranny and lies and fraud and dehumanization and greed and control.
You were saying Myron Fagan.
What about Eustace Mullins?
I mean, his work on the Federal Reserve, he really was the guy helping get the book.
Well, I think the key here is, though, you codified so much of it, and before you came along, you'd have to go read a hundred high-level Masonic books, you'd have to go to the libraries, look at the real meanings of gods.
So what you did is, that knowledge was there, but that was kind of their internal knowledge, and so you did bring to the world so much of what's going on today.
I've seen online A little, you know, people trying to create a controversy between you and David Icke.
Tell me, I mean, just to set the record straight, because people try to stir up stuff between you guys, let's set the record straight.
Well, I appreciate that, because I've been wanting to talk about this for a long time, because there is a lot, I get a lot of emails and phone calls about, well, you said this about David Icke, or David Icke said that.
First of all, I don't have any problems with anything David Icke is talking about.
As a matter of fact, I gave him a lot, and he's gotten a lot from me.
But I did, in point of fact, myself, in 1992, I brought David Icke to America.
I'm the one that brought him here.
And I was in San Diego at the time, and a young lady named Alice Ferguson came to my office in San Diego with a man, a friend of hers, named David Griffith.
And Alice Ferguson, David Griffith, came to my office.
I was pretty much running a company down in San Diego called Truth Seeker Company.
And she asked me if I would help bring her friend to America, who was doing, who was very interested in all my work, and he was trying to do the same thing in England.
So I said, well, who is this person?
And so she said, it's David Icke.
So I listened to her for about an hour, and we talked about it.
And I said, all right, I'll tell you what I'll do.
I'll give both you and David Griffin a job.
I'll pay both of you $2,500 a month and I'll get you because they didn't have a place to live.
They were over here to promote David Icke and they didn't have a place to live.
They were staying with some friends in San Diego so I got them both an apartment.
I gave them both $3,000 apiece to buy furniture for their apartments.
I gave them both a job for $2,500 a month, plus they both had the credit cards for the foundation, the corporation.
And so I financed her, Alice Ferguson, and ultimately David Icke to come to America, to go to Australia, to go to Canada.
And all of that cost money to fly all over the world and to set up lectures for David Icke.
And eventually, Alice Ferguson talked with Bonnie Lang, the lady who was running the company, and a couple of other women in the office.
And they decided that, why don't we just fire Jordan Maxwell, get rid of him, and bring David Icke in to take his place?
And so that's what happened.
I got fired by the same people that I tried to help and bring David Icke to America.
I got fired so that David could take my job.
But after they fired me, they found out that David was not interested in sitting in an office running a company like Jordan Maxwell, so then the company went downhill from there because I was gone.
And they had already fired me, and David didn't want the job, and so they just cut their nose off despite their face, and so the Truth Seeker company is now defunct, and it's no longer around.
At that time I was helping, because I had access to the corporation funds, I was helping Richard Hoagland, Zachariah Sitchin.
As I said, John Rapoport had no job.
I called John Rapoport, gave him a job, got him started again, and he went out and wrote a book on my work called Secret Societies.
So, of course, I don't know if we were on the air at the time when we were talking about the Fritz Springmeier with the bloodlines of the Illuminati, but all of that was taken from me back in 1988 by Fritz Springmeier's girlfriend, Gloria Mascarella.
So, all of these people that I have, you know, and of course, I was giving lectures in the motion picture studios and all the different recording studios Back in the 70s and 80s, I was going around to motion picture studios at night and just the working class people in the studios would give me a pass.
Well, I had a video called Matrix of Power about 10 years before the movie Matrix came out, but I don't think that they Well, maybe they might have been influenced by the Matrix because it was a big seller when it came out.
One never knows.
But what I do know is that there's that directly from my video with one of my first videos ever done was called the basic slide presentation.
And if you get my basic slide presentation, that's the one that may be famous all over the world.
And it was a two hour video.
Out of that, at the very beginning of the basic slide presentation, and get that, and watch it, and then get the movie, Da Vinci Code.
And it is exactly, word for word, exactly, in the Da Vinci Code, at the beginning of the movie, they introduce Tom Hanks as the world's foremost researcher in occult societies and secret societies, and he comes up on the stage,
This is in the movie, Da Vinci Code, and he comes up on the stage and he's got a screen and a slide projector, and on the screen, being projected on the screen, is the symbol on the back of the dollar bill with the pyramid, and he walks in front of the projection, so some of it is being projected on him, and he's now pointing to the pyramid, the all-seeing eye, etc.
And talking about the Illuminati and secret societies on the dollar bill, etc.
That came directly out of my Basics Live presentation, period.
Period.
It came directly out of my video, and nobody ever called me to send me a check.
Da Vinci Code, of course the whole idea of Da Vinci Code was a rip-off of Bajat, Lee, and Lincoln.
The entire movie, Da Vinci Code, was an absolute rip-off Of the British writers, Bajent Leigh and Lincoln, and their book that appeared about 15 years before the movie, called Holy Blood, Holy Grail.
And so the producers of Da Vinci Code ripped off Bajent Leigh and Lincoln's book, Holy Blood, Holy Grail, and made it into a movie, and act like they came up with something new.
And there was a lawsuit in England because of that.
I'm not the only one that's been ripped off and lied to and cheated and left for dead.
Well, it's just you've made such a contribution to fighting the New World Order, Jordan, that I don't normally even air laundry on the show, but it's important that you be recognized for the work you've done and so people appreciate the work you've done.
Now I want to shift gears for the rest of this hour into the biggest secrets, the biggest issues.
And I understand it all has a basis in fact, and you believe your interpretation is correct.
But the nuance is sometimes I watch one thing you do, it's different, and another it's a little different.
But I'm not saying you change your views.
I'm saying it's nuanced.
So we're not, this show, you can talk about anything you want.
The only person that controls what's on this show is Alex Jones.
And the guests he has on, and all my guests can talk about whatever they want.
The callers can talk about whatever they want.
We don't screen calls.
Nothing.
Anybody that says otherwise is a liar.
Stay there.
Quick break, Jordan.
And we'll come back.
You've got a couple minute break you can take, and we'll be right back.
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It's a whole secret order that has been in operation for a thousand years.
It is the whole story behind America, England, And the things which are going on on the earth today, and if you don't understand Hanseatic League and Teutonic Zionism, you're never going to figure out the name of the tune and how this thing is being played.
And I've been looking at this for 48 years, and I'm telling you that unless and until you have the whole story, you're not going to get to the bottom of anything.
Because like I said in the beginning, the first hour, your decisions in life are only as good as your information.
And the really extraordinary information has never been allowed to be given to the people.
So I'm just getting you started into a truly arcane, occult research.
So after they knocked out the Templars, there was still the Teutonic Knights.
I only know about the Teutonic Knights because I read Mein Kampf, I read other books about the Nazis, and Hitler thought that he was creating the recreated No, you're getting it.
And so that's why people can't get why the political Zionists, who were supposedly Jewish, were funding Hitler, Why Hitler allowed Jews to leave to Israel but nowhere else?
Why, at the highest levels, you'll have Zionists right next to top Nazis at Bilderberg?
And it's right.
I've said, when you kick in that final door, it's a room full of Nazis and Kabbalists.
And the first two times, the Nazis are looking for the Lost Ark of the Covenant.
Why would the Nazis care a damn about a Jewish symbol of the Covenant, or the Covenant of the The Lost Ark of the Covenant.
Why would Nazis care about the Lost Ark of the Covenant, a Jewish symbol?
Why would they care about the Christian symbol of the Holy Grail?
The second one, the Last Crusade.
Why is he putting so much emphasis on the Knights Templars, the Masonic Knights, orders of the Teutonic Knights?
They're trying to tell you something.
And so I'm saying, I've been looking at this for a long time, and I'll tell you what the story is.
Hanseatic League Teutonic Zionism.
It has nothing to do with Jewish Zionism out of the Bible, period.
Nothing Jewish about it.
It has to do with a very ancient, prehistoric, ancient concept of a totalitarian dictatorship As a matter of fact, if you go to any good law dictionary and look up the word FAS, F-A-S, FAS.
FAS is a Latin word which means God's Law.
You look up in a law dictionary and you will look up the word J-U-S, just.
Just in Latin means man's law, from which we get the idea that man's law is justice.
No, it's a Latin word, J-U-S, meaning man's law.
But God's law is F-A-S, giving us our word, fascism.
Fascism is symbolized by the axe.
The axe has always represented God and the ancient world.
Every ancient civilization ever existed on the earth always used an axe to represent the power of God in the hands of the king.
A fasc is simply a hatchet head.
with a group of sticks tied together, which is, of course, in the United States Senate today.
And in Washington, D.C., you'll see where the president stands at the podium on both sides of the FAS-ism, because F-A-S-L-I-S.
And that's what's so incredible, that they have the symbols of what we think of as Nazism, the hatchets sticking out of the bound sticks, or showing the Federal Imperium ruling over the slaves, and then you look at them setting up fascism here in the United States.
The people have no idea in the world what's going on.
They don't read.
They don't go to the etymology of words and terms and symbols.
And so, the people who are running this world can do stuff right in front of you.
You know as well as I do, when we were kids, Alex, and the kids are doing it today, the more we change, the more we stay the same.
When we were kids, we could talk on the phone right in front of our parents and talk about stuff that the parents would fall over if they knew that we were talking about, but we were using our own lingo.
They have their own language, just like the illegal aliens that the globalists are using to break down our sovereignty.
They love it because on the Spanish radio it's, we're taking over, we're going to kill you, ha ha ha, and then you tell the dumb gringos they can't hear it, they don't know.
The elite of this world have their own, look it, you know as well as I do, that if you go to any conference or any seminar given to or by specific disciplines, like you go to a conference of neurosurgeons, they're going to be talking and using terms at that conference that you have no idea in the world what they're talking about.
So you might as well stay home because you're not a neurosurgeon.
If you go to any kind of a conference with specific Scientists are talking about certain things.
If you're not one of them, you don't know what the words mean.
The main transmission continues right now, Jordan, and then coming up in about 20 minutes, we're going to have to hang up on you and call you back on my studio line, because we're doing this out of my studio, okay?
Then when the retransmission continues, I'll get into Barry Jennings, Deputy Head of Emergency Management, New York, talking about explosions in the buildings, dead bodies in Building 7 before either tower collapsed, destroying the 9-11 Commission Report.
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It's all about deception, all about word games.
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Okay, going back to Jordan Maxwell.
He was talking about the Teutonic Zionist.
And again, separately from Jordan Maxwell, because I've been a big reader.
I can confirm what he's saying because I happen to read Heinz Hobel, Order of the Deathshead, Scheer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, two of Hitler's books, Mein Kampf and then the New World Order.
I happen to know that they believed in Teutonic Knights.
This predates the Templars.
Mainstream history teaches you the Templars became the Teutonics.
Really, they were the tree from which the Templars rose, and when that tree was cut down and ran to northern England or to Scotland, the real heart of it grew back up.
Well, it's a league of German bankers and thinkers, philosophers, but especially bankers and commercial enterprises in Germany under the Second Reich, which was under Kaiser Wilhelm, and even way before that, before the German nation came to be a nation.
So it's a whole confederation of bankers, thinkers, philosophers who were basically...
And again, I'm not absolving the modern, corrupt, murderous Zionists.
The point is, I have found that they are actually their plaything.
And that they have intermarried in with the Rothschilds, and every time I knock down that final door, this is a Germanic death cult that believes they are the true Zionists.
And I mean, look at who owns the big pharma companies, look at who owns the military.
And then it's got to be a debate about the Catholics, or it's got to be a debate about the... But then the Catholic system, you know, is trying to set up the new Rome, and it's hooked in with the Teutonics, is it not?
That's why I was saying earlier, when you go on my website, there are three books that are showing.
I have other e-books that, once you hit one of the books that are showing, it will take you to the whole e-book section.
But the one in the middle is called Symbols, Sex, and the Stars, which I was so taken by when I first found this book in an old bookstore.
I was just absolutely mesmerized by it.
How much information is in there so well easily to read and explain about where things come from in the world theology?
Where it developed?
What the words meant?
The etymology of the words and where the concepts and ideas have come from.
It's called Symbols, Sects, and the Stars.
I own the copyright on that.
I gave it to my friend So he could publish it.
And then the second one, which was so extraordinarily important, I asked and got the copyright to own it also.
I not only loved the books, I wanted to own them, so I could put them out all over the world.
It's called Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy.
And once you understand how Masonic Astronomy, and is connected to the Stellar Theology of the ancient world, Then all of the words and terms you're hearing in religion and philosophy and astronomy all begin to make sense.
And the mere fact, I mean, you know, by their fruits you shall know them.
The mere fact that they are the power tells you that There very well might be something, in fact, legitimate about it.
That there very well might be an occult, hidden, dark force in the universe that we call the occult magical system that we put into movies like Matrix.
But there is, in point of fact, a legitimate, de jure, real, magical system operating on the earth.
Now, let's be clear, for atheists out there, if you go research your atheistic founders, you will find they're funded by a cultic and theophics, you know, different societies, and that the world leaders who are telling you not to believe anything, they are obsessed with this, aren't they?
We go to the Washington Monument, and you know how many people go to the Washington Monument and see the Washington Monument and are so proud to stand there and have a picture taken with the Washington Monument, never realizing that the Washington Monument As a phallic symbol for the phallic worship in Egypt.
Did you see the pictures and the downloadable documents?
No.
Well, did you get any of the e-books that were there?
No, I didn't see any e-books.
So I want to take this opportunity to say, anyone who goes on my website, understand there is at least 48 years of knowledge and work that I have put into my website of stuff that you will never be privy to know even exist.
So when you go to my website, don't just look at the homepage and a couple of pictures, go all through it.
And especially on the audio video page, And the links page, I've got stuff on links pages.
I don't put links on my website to take up room.
I put them on because they are very important to me.
I get excited in my spirit when I'm in the company of someone like yourself, Alex, that appreciates the work and appreciates the time and the effort and all that comes with it, because I have become so despondent and so dejected over all the years of seeing things people are saying about me which are not true, They're saying that I'm an enemy of so-and-so.
There's all these complex issues I want to expose, and then I make a film like Endgame that cost me $150,000 to make, and people watched it and appreciated it, but I know it hasn't gotten the attention it needs.
This is life-saving information, and people just kind of like, oh, you put it on the web for free?
I don't even care to watch it.
You know, it's like you pour your guts out.
You don't sleep making something.
You go through hell to make it, and they don't understand.
Absolutely, and consequently, but the powers that be know that you're putting it out, and they're going to deal with you.
You're going to have your family and threats against your life, and threats against your home, and you're dealing, you're fighting something on the front lines, while other people are just viewing your work as entertainment.
So many people will listen to me and watch videos which I've never put any... That's right, one of the biggest comic book companies has put out a whole line of comic books called New World Order and they are giving you credit, Jordan.
You know, I know that comic book company did because I think they had to, lawfully they had to because it was based on me.
But you know, if you go on my website to the To the e-books.
Those free e-books are very, very important.
That's why I put them on the homepage.
And of course, I have another box called Endorsements and Emails.
A lot of interesting stuff on there that people have sent me.
And I just put it out in the public.
So I'll let you see what other people have sent me.
Then Downloadable Documents.
The Photo Gallery.
And of course, just general research boxes.
I've got tons of stuff on there, but what really bothers me Is that I would love to be able to do radio and talk to the world and tell the world what I really know.
Why don't we have you back up later in the week for like two hours to really... You can say whatever you want here, Jordan.
It's a big audience.
Millions of people, as you know.
But before we go to this final break for the main show and then call you back on my studio line for an internet cast with... Millions will see it in the next few months but tens of thousands listening and watching right now.
But I want to talk about two things before this main show ends in about eight minutes.
Well, I think the human race, and this is going to be a painting with a very broad brush, but it's based on many years of looking at the subject from every conceivable angle.
And I've traveled all around the world, from Egypt to Europe to quite literally around the world, talking to people.
Lecturing on this subject, and I've learned so much from others in other areas of the world.
It's very rewarding to travel and hear other foreign people, what they think, and see how things work in their country.
And I'm totally convinced that the human race is being mutated according to a scientific method.
We know that there have been experiments done as far back as the 1920s and 30s
uh... of trying to crossbreed animals with humans the germans were doing that uh... there was movies made back in nineteen thirty eight thirty nine with charles lawton uh... called uh... the island of lost souls nineteen sixty-five burt lancaster remade a call the island of dr moran let me stop you and back up what you're saying in game starts getting into this in game two or whatever i'm gonna call it will fully get into it
But all the main eugenicists, Margaret Sanger, H.G.
Wells, the princes, Prince Bernhardt, said they're going to make two different species, and then BBC, while I was making the film, showed this little goblin creature that we're going to be, and then they're going to be these beautiful blonde-haired, blue-eyed people, and they hate us so much, they want to make themselves better than us, so they actively want to kill most of us, and then have a clown goblin creature that they call the old humans that they laugh at.
The complete transformation and transmutation of the human spirit into a whole new kind of creature.
This gets into a subject which I have been fascinated with all my life, about how to cross-breed animals and humans, and don't think it hasn't happened.
And we know that the Germans were working on this as far back as the 1920s, and of course Ivan G. Pavlov and AR Luria and Pavlov were working with their Pavlonian dogs, understanding how to cause people to think what they want, you know.
That whole Pavlonian dog thing was part of the whole eugenics program to completely redesign the human being so that one day, ultimately one day, the human race will be so profoundly stupid And so awesomely ignorant.
In my gut, in my psyche, the full power of my subconscious mind, thousands of times more powerful than my limited cerebral cortex.
In my bones, I know they're waging war against the species.
And then, lo and behold, I go to their own documents.
They vitriolically say they're poisoning us, killing us, euthanizing us right now.
With the nutrition we've been getting, we should be living to 130.
They are waging war on us, and I, you know, hadn't even got into Jordan Maxwell's own research on this, and I say, what's the master plan?
And he says to dumb us down into a new suboid species, and you read the eugenicists, you read the government plans, they are now doing it, inserting us into a matrix.
You're being sucked into your iPhones, sucked into your video games, you're already interfacing.
I've got to have you up very soon, Jordan, to do a whole show on this and how they admit they're doing it.
And I've had elitists tell me, Alex, you warned them, and look, they don't even care.
That's the ultimate cop-out.
They have done everything for generations to dumb us down and to turn us into this.
The National Banking Association, a hundred years ago, put out memos saying, buy up the media, dumb everybody down.
They're reading too much.
They're chemically attacking all of you.
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When would you like to come back on, this is too important to wait, to get more into the Teutonic Nazi Zionist New World Order grid, and talk more about their master plan of turning a minority of us into animal slave suboids, a genetically engineered sub-slave species, Well, I'll tell you what, let me think about that and then we'll talk off the air.
of us uh when can you come on later this week for a couple hours and then i want to have you again in two weeks already set up uh for the sunday show a different audience uh well i'll tell you what let me think about that and then we'll talk off the air i'll call you back if not today tomorrow and then we can uh i'll think about it and and we'll we'll discuss that part privately then good fantastic but you're happy to come back on though oh yes all right you're a sweetheart i just want listeners are chomping at the bit and i want to make sure we get that nailed down okay
Well, I'm at a loss for words, because it's such a huge tsunami of ignorance that's sweeping the world, and an avalanche of attack on the human species by these people at the very top.
It's like I was saying before, it's not even political.
It's not even philosophical.
It's truly demonic.
Because they were crossbreeding, as I was saying before, crossbreeding animals and humans as far back as the 20s, and probably earlier than that, the 1800s, that they were talking about such kind of technology that was coming.
And when you start looking at how these people are redesigning the human creature so that we will be able to at least have the intelligence to do a particular job that is given to us, but our brains will be blank.
We can see that now everywhere in schools.
Young people, you talk to them and they're blank.
They just stare past you.
They have no idea that their humanity has been taken away from them.
Their ability to think... I was in San Diego working for the Truth Seeker Company a few years back, and one night when the Hale-Bob Comet came over, I walked out in the evening, and the comet was out, and there was a bunch of high school kids out in the parking lot next to my car.
And I walked up, and they were all standing there looking at the comet.
And so I was talking with them, and they said, well, what is that?
And I said, it's a comet.
And they said to me, and they were very nice kids, and they were very real, they weren't smart aleck, and they asked, what is a comet?
And I was shocked that they didn't know.
So I talked with them a little bit about comets and astronomy, etc.
And one of the boys said to me, he says, Can you answer something that we've all wondered and nobody knows, where does the sun go when it leaves?
We see it come up and we see it go down, but where does it go when it leaves here?
It's from the book called The New Totalitarians by Roland Humpert.
And in the book, he says this, that Aldous Huxley, and Julian Huxley was his father, Huxley... You're right, I keep calling him a brother, yeah.
Yes, that's what it was, brother.
And so Julian Huxley said something very interesting, and it was quoted in The New Totalitarian book.
The quote is this, as political and economic freedom diminishes, sexual freedom tends compensatingly to increase.
And the dictator, unless he needs cannon fodder or families with which to colonize empty or conquered territories, will do well to encourage that freedom.
In conjunction with the freedom to daydream under the influence of narcotics, The movies, the radio, and it will help to reconcile his subjects to the servitude which is now their fate.
Have you seen the Bertrand Russell quote where he says, a revolt by the slaves by the time we're done with it, I'm paraphrasing, will be as ridiculous as a revolt of sheep, you know, who are being cut up for mutton.
So Alex Frazier-Taylor said, He was born in 1742, died in 1813, said this, quote, The average age of the world's great civilizations has been around 200 years.
These nations have progressed through this sequence from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from great courage to liberty, and from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, From complacency to apathy, and from apathy back to dependence, and from dependence back to bondage.
Yeah, let me read you Bertrand Russell, who they claim is a great liberal who said, exterminate the blacks.
Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species.
A revolt of the plebes would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton.
Now that's exactly what you've been talking about.
Here's another one.
Although the science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class.
The populace will be allowed to know how it can...
Uh, convictions were generated.
Uh, when the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.
That was out of his book, The Impact of Science and Society, 53.
Now, now, let me just say this.
I told the story yesterday on the air again and I told it a few months ago because it was shocking to me.
About a year ago, Endgame was getting ready to be finished in a few months and my parents came by to pick me up at my office because I was working on a Saturday afternoon and my daughter had a ballet recital and they picked her up.
So we're going to the ballet recital.
I don't know why I tell that part of the story, but the point is, I guess because I don't want to sound like a little kid, but my parents picking me up.
The point is, they pull into the office, my mother comes in, she's real smart, you know, has a degree in history, she's sitting there watching the film where I'm talking about how they plan to exterminate us and we're showing the quotes And she goes, but I know some of them say that, and I've read it, but they really plan that?
And we're driving in the car, and my dad goes, let me just tell you a story.
He was in the Texas Academy, a young scientist.
And when he was in junior high school, he was already at UT, an advanced research deal.
They took 125 of the smartest kids in the state, and he was sixth selected of that.
And the head of the botany department was running it named Speer.
He was a German immigrate.
And he took them into this room, and he said, listen, you're going to work for the government.
It's a new world order.
It's eugenics, and we're going to exterminate everybody.
After we're done, because this will happen many years from now, probably when you're older.
But, you know, you are the elite.
Now, look, they weren't just going after my dad and five others in Texas.
They got tens of thousands.
And he said no.
But the point is, this isn't just in books for me.
They tried to recruit my dad because, you know, he was salutatorian.
FBI men that I've known, and CIA people I know, and all kinds of interesting people around the world that I've been fortunate enough to meet and to be in their private company.
I've sat in Egypt and listened to scholars there talking about what they know about what's going on in the Middle East.
And this kind of information has been out there from day one, but most people are not Well, here's my point.
know anything about it and just as well because they're not interested to know until it comes home to them well here's my point they for two years off and on coming into the university a couple times a month found the 125 smartest kids and not just normal tests but all sorts of things i mean my dad later you know found out that it was like almost it was a program for astronaut screening and other government programs They had this everywhere.
But then what they really selected them out for at the end was, okay, you're the sixth best after a two-year program.
They would give them the supplies, and my dad would go home and build a laser, and stuff like that, and see if they could do it.
And at the end of it, it's okay, you've been chosen, you're going to be a minion of the ruling elite, and you're going to help carry out the extermination.
I mean, that's my... Folks, it didn't just happen to my dad's my whole point.
And then I guess his name was on some list, because then later they tried to recruit him and other top dentists for some secret, you know, cybernetic bone implant thing for soldiers in the 80s.
I got a buddy who they recruited, who's only a few years older than me, he's a Hollywood producer, and he got recruited and then Microsoft came to him and said, we're hiring you because we have your file on that advanced thing you did in Houston, which is really a NASA program for advanced children, and we've got your file and we want to just pay you a couple million a year just to find out the contents of your brain.
And I had been talking about, as I said, about all this subject of the conspiracies in government, etc.
Since the early 60s, but in 67, I happened to be in Glendale, California, going through the encyclopedias.
I was looking up some information on Soviet communism, and in the World Book Encyclopedia under Soviet Russia, I turned to that page, and there was a picture of the Soviet flag The red flag with the hammer and sickle, and then beneath it was the Soviet coat of arms.
And beneath each one of those pictures gave a little sentence or two explaining the symbolism.
And when I read the symbolism on the Soviet national coat of arms, it was a shock to me, because since early 60s, I had been researching secret societies and had continually come across A particular catchphrase that virtually everybody was using.
Until such time as I was looking at an encyclopedia under Soviet and read the little piece under the Soviet National Coat of Arms and it absolutely... I was absolutely floored because for the first time I finally got it.
I finally got what that symbol really meant and it changed my life in one day because I knew Instinctively.
It's used by the Russians, the Nazis, And once you see how it was used by the ancient Roman Empire, for the Caesars used it, and the ancient Greeks used it... In fact, their top standards wasn't even eagles, it was that rising sun.
That means that there is a rising on the earth of a very powerful, intellectual, secret order of light and intelligence That is superior to the human race.
It's superior to humans.
It is a rising of a light in the world which is a other world.
The word I'm looking for is occult.
There is a powerful secret society operating in the world.
Jesus is referred to as Lucifer in the Bible, and that's part of what I'm talking about.
That's part of what I'm trying to explain in a very few words.
There was a war between the two kinds of light, white light and black light.
Black light is used in dance halls and entertainment venues where they use black light.
Black light only shows up certain things, and a white light is different.
So there's a war between two kinds of light, which means there's a war between two kinds of intelligence.
And so that symbol which I'd stumbled on, which was the symbol of the Soviet Union, opened up for me a can of worms that I instilled to this very day over 40 years ago and 67, and today I am still working on it, and one day I would like to be able to have the finances to put together a three or a four hour documentary on the most incredible, dark secret of the human race.
How This symbol has been used by the most ancient secret societies in preparation and preparing to transform the human race.
And it's just so much to explain, I can't even, you know, it's hard to find words to explain The significance of what it is that I found.
And they've been promised immortality and power and godhood if they will treacherously enslave their own species and that's why generationally it continues.
That's why it's more advanced than our greatest intellectuals.
That's why it's so incredibly subtle that even our greatest minds have trouble like John the Revelator on Patmos reveling at the beast couldn't even believe what he was seeing.
It's so huge that our greatest minds can't even hardly grasp it.
And let me give you one quick quote from a reference book on secret societies.
I want to just give you this quote, because it's very germane to what I'm talking about.
This is a quote from a lady who was a member of the Golden Dawn Society, and she was very old when she left the Golden Dawn, and she was interviewed in France.
And she said this, she said, I have been convinced that we, as an order, and at that point, the Golden Dawn, I have been convinced that we, as an order, have come under the power of some very evil occult order, profoundly versed in science, both occult and otherwise, though not infallible, their methods being black magic, that is to say, electromagnetic power, hypnotism, and powerful suggestion.
We are convinced that the Order is being controlled by some kind of a Sun Order, after the nature of the Illuminati, if not by that Order itself." I'm telling you, when I was reading this, I thought, my God, this is something awesome that I have stumbled upon.
I just live in two rooms with my sick brother who have nothing because I've spent my whole life... Well, Jordan, this is important enough that I can probably work with you or try to get some folks to help you.
Well, I understand that you want to do a masterwork with it, but I think something like the basic slide projection, but lay it all out, because time is of the essence, and just get something.
I mean, make it good.
Put video over what you're saying as well, but like a slide projection with video, you know, put over it, and you go into a few sites.
And because of your illness, we need to do this, because time is of the essence, and I'm really glad that...
Listen, I know, and I've got to take my children to a dental appointment.
We have like 15 phone calls posted here.
We've got Jennifer, and Ryan, and Matt, and Ben, and Graham, and Greg, and Scott, and Joe, and Dave, and Elroy, and Matt, and David.
I'm going to try to give each caller 30-45 seconds a quick answer from Jordan that I'm going to run out of here.
We'll probably end up keeping you another 15 minutes.
Okay, great.
Let's move quickly now.
Folks, I just want to tell you this.
I have been, with all my knowledge, the conscious mind can't really fully analyze it all.
I have been truly sitting in like a chair for two hours straight, trying to get to the basics of what it all is, and I have to tell you, and I'm not getting, I don't cover UFOs, I don't cover all that because there's so much disinfo and so much weirdness, but studying the elite, how they behave, how they even look upset, it's like they know they're under orders.
I keep coming back with, it is an outside intelligence, call it spiritual, whatever you want, inter-dimensional, that is controlling these people.
What they're doing is so horrible.
And I mean, what politician would come out and say, we rape children and rip their genitals off of pliers and put it in White House documents?
They're doing something to us.
They're getting us ready for greater horrors.
It's some type of, I mean, God knows what it is, folks, but I can just tell you, just in my spirit, I intellectually track all this, and then in my spirit I try to go, okay, what is it behind that final door?
And it is hell itself being released on the earth.
I'm telling you, and I've been looking at this, like I said, for so many years, but it was back in 1967 that I made a profound discovery, and I've been working on it for over 40 years, And I really feel that I want to do something with this work that nobody has ever heard, no one's ever seen it, has no idea it exists.
It is extraordinarily important, but I'm just too tired and sick to do anything.
I did want to let you all know I'm doing a documentary with Jordan on his last work, and that will My quick question is, it's all this talk about this coming new agenda, and it's part of the new man theory, and my question is this.
You know, even in 1927 film Metropolis, the machine man, is technology going to change?
Well, I was invited and I had a nice conversation.
George Lucas actually said to me, we were all standing and eating, it was kind of like a big circus kind of atmosphere, and he said, I introduced myself.
He asked me my name, and I told him, and he said, Jordan Maxwell.
He said, you know what?
I know that name.
He said, you're in a book, a red cover book, isn't it?
Something about the Church doesn't want you to know?
And I said, yes.
And I said, it's an honor that you would know about me.
He said, well, the only reason I know about you, Jordan, is because my wife is a voracious reader.
She reads everything.
I don't read.
I hire people.
To do the research for the movies, etc.
And he said, but she made me read your part.
That's why I remember your name.
So he said, give me your business card.
And then Michael Eisner, president of Disney, said, well, what are you talking about?
And then we got in a conversation about Hollywood, magic, the occult world, etc.
I'm not going to talk about that any further on the air, but we'll talk about that in private.
But it was interesting, because I asked them, I said, you know, the very concept of the Hollywood comes from the old Druidic priest in the ancient... Who made it out of the Hollywood?
Yeah, because their magic wands, the magical priests used magic wands and they were always made out of the wood of a holly tree, made out of Hollywood.
And so we had a very long-term, interesting conversation going there for a bit.
The only second thing I had real quick was, as far as the rising sun, I've seen a lot of drawings, especially in Roman Catholic Church, paintings and such, of mushrooms and such like that, and I heard you talk about that in your film, Basic Sled Show.
I'm wondering if you could give me any more information.
I just wanted to thank you guys for everything that you've done for all of us out here and I wanted to Let's talk about the interesting Obama poster with his rising.
And, uh, and it's telling you something, and all the presidents have used it, but especially, uh, what's the other guy, uh, McCain, a Republican, what's his name?
McCain came out and said, uh, McCain blew me away.
I was almost, I almost had to fall backwards when I heard McCain in one of his lectures using Illuminati terms, which are in-house terms that nobody knows.
Unless you're inside to know what those words meant.
And he used those terms and words in his speeches.
But there are none so blind as those who choose not to see.
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Right.
And I'd like to say to everybody who has children, you know, it's our responsibility as parents to prepare our kids for this and to teach them that this is going on.
And if we give them the education and if we show our own kids what's going on, then this information will be passed on.
Now that people are filtering water, trying to get away from it, now they're putting it in the air.
I mean, they admit it.
I mean, they are coming after us.
I mean, they're saying, the elite says in hundreds of documents, and I appreciate your call, Jennifer, that we have to, they say there's going to be a middle class that will have elite genetics, this is their view, I'm not saying it's true, they will threaten us, they will get in the way of what we're doing, it's like bad sons, we've got to cut them down.
And, you know, I don't want to be cut down, I don't want my kids dying early of cancer, you bastards need to stop.
Let's talk to Graham in Seattle, then Ben and others.
Graham, go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, it's an honor to speak with you.
I've never heard Jordan speak.
Thanks for having him on today.
I was just going to mention real quick, David Eich, that's how you pronounce his name, you know, a lot of the stuff he talks about is right on, but he starts talking about the whole, like, reptilian thing, and then you were talking about Uh, crossbreeding humans with other types of species, and I was thinking maybe, you know, I know some people who claim to have seen these things.
Well, by the way, John, well listen, here's the problem.
Hold on a minute, hold on.
This is where I get irritated.
Okay.
In 2003, the Washington Post reported what I had seen in government documents.
This is public stuff, sir.
Okay, that they have human chimpanzee crosses, and they've got them in Argentina, they've got them in Costa Rica, and they've got them in South Korea, okay?
Yeah, I mean, it's there in the magazines and all of their rough reference works published by the U.S.
publishing companies that publish the documents out of Washington.
They're telling you in your face.
But most people don't read anyway, because, and I understand why most people are not interested in this kind of thing, because it really doesn't, in the final analysis, this kind of information Well, I know, but that's the human race.
They think they're so self-centered that they think they're saving themselves by not caring when they're letting the evil win, and they're destroying themselves by being selfish little pig people.
No, I know, but we wanted you to, for people listening, laughing at us, we wanted those schmucks to know, we're warning them, listen, I had a guy eight years ago at a Conan's Pizza poke me in the arm and get in my face and call me a liar about spider goats.
I just wanted to talk specifically, I mean, kind of when David Ickes started talking about reptilians and stuff, I sort of kind of turned it off because it didn't seem like he was talking about them being from the underworld or something, and it seemed really out there, and I felt like it might have been some disinformation that they were trying to mix in with truth.
Well, why not just actually... I'll tell you that.
Yeah, I mean... That's a whole subject in itself that I'd like to get into in relation to the Bible, because there's a lot of stuff in the Bible talking about that exact Genesis sounds like genetic engineering.
I'm a huge fan, long-term fan, a subscriber to presentplanet.com.
I had one comment to make really quick, and then I'll ask a question to both of you guys really quick.
Uh, the comment, first of all, was I've been reading, uh, Tex Marz's book, Circle of Intrigue, recently, and it talks about how there's in a circle, you know, ten members, possibly, of that, and that there could be an eleventh eventually.
If Jordan has any comments about that group, I'll ask him.
Yeah, I've had people, high-level military, high-level government, and others high-level government, tell me that there is a ruling council and that there is an empty chair at the end of it and they believe an entity is in it.
It's all part of a very, as I said, a very legitimate, du jour, real magical system in operation that has been in operation for thousands of years, and the people, generally speaking today, have no idea in the world what these symbols actually mean and where they've come from.
I know you're up in two weeks, but we can't wait on this.
It's too important to cover.
Anything else, Ben?
unidentified
Well, one last thing I was going to ask regarding this circle of intrigue, the issues around that, is, Jordan, do you think there's actually a connection with this inner circle to the British royals?
Well, they also want to carry out their New World Order in the name of the Jews, because they want to kill the Jews, because they want to put themselves in that place.
By some sick twist of fate, they were the masters, we were the slaves.
Yep.
Let's go ahead.
Greg in New Jersey, you're on there.
I've got to move really fast now.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, gents.
I really appreciate the show letting me on.
If I, and this is for the guest, If I had one of his books or one document that he could share with me that I could help convince my friends and family that I'm not crazy, what would that be?
I think if you go on my website to the homepage, the book called Occult Theocracy.
Occult Theocracy is just a reference book on all of the secret societies around the world, where they come from, It's just a reference book so people can see for the first time.
This is the type of small-mindedness, and I'm not saying you're small-minded and I appreciate your call, but in the interest of time, you can call me back tomorrow and we can talk more about it.
I was saying I was a limited person who was to the limited kind of like a John Birch type view, not that I was even John Birch.
And then Jordan Maxwell was saying he was sending them material trying to get them to see a bigger picture.
And then we don't even totally agree with Eustace Mullins.
We were saying he was a pioneer on banking with Ezra Pound.
So, see, we were having a separate, nuanced discussion, and then it degenerates into who's good, who's not.
No, you're right, and what I was doing back in the 60s, sending articles to them, I was just interested and I was reading some of their material and I thought this was very interesting stuff and I've got some collaborating evidence, so I just write a little article and send it to them.
Sir, sir, in the interest of time, call me back tomorrow.
My contact info's here.
Send me an email.
I mean, the point is, is that I know Hollywood people, banking people, they're all, you know, basically either don't like the New World Order and know it's a cult, or they're a cult and start telling you how great Lucifer is.
I mean, believe me, that's what I mean.
The public has no idea, and you're saying, listen, I know, I've been around the elite.
But what you need to do is go on my website and go to the research boxes, and especially the ones dealing with religion, and scroll down until you hit the one on grove, and read some of that material on what a grove represented.
In the occult world, it doesn't mean what you think it does.
Most people think groves are where there are lots of trees.
No, that's not exactly the way they're using it.
Yes, there is a grove of trees where they are operating.
Yeah, what it was is that Vikings weren't just the Vikings we think of in modern times.
They were trading with the Chinese, they were trading with the Arabs, they were trading with, and this is in the mainline history books, just no one knows it, they were all over the New World and they dug up their graves everywhere and found hundreds of their swords, and so they're saying they're going to recreate that Atlantean Teutonic Empire, correct?
It was the account of his speech in Congress in 1940, and he talks about two different groups.
He talks about an Anglo-American influence, and he talks about an internationalist influence.
But it's the same people.
He puts it in a context that there's actually a fight going on between those groups and i wonder if you could put that in context today and say who's one who's kind of pulled ahead and where are we and i don't know if you can do that i think that's a lie for their lower level members and they allow jousting between their subgroups but there really is no split at the top i think that's exactly right it's like a fight promoters in hollywood they promote the fight but what they're doing is promoting both fighters
Well, no, he admits, if you really read in there, and I gotta let you go, if you read in there, he really admits, he says, we worked through communists, we worked through fascists, and you're saying, he's saying there's two different groups.
I actually helped finance, what's his name, Sitchin, Zachariah Sitchin, and I sent him around the world to six different countries and I sat and talked with him for hours on end.
And they have to make everything a lie, like the new millennium was 2001, but they love the fact that everybody celebrated a new year in the wrong year.