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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
jason bermas
Welcome. I am not Alex Jones.
I am Jason Burmiss, and I will be sitting in for the remainder of the week.
unidentified
Alex should be joining us at some time today.
jason bermas
However, if you didn't know, Michael Reagan and his cronies have now had Mark Dice's YouTube account pulled.
That's right, because Mark Dice posted that small little audio clip about Michael Reagan threatening his life and really the lives of all 9-11 truthers.
They've pulled his account and he's going to come on to talk about that, but there is a press release.
Talk show host Michael Reagan files copyright infringement claim to remove audio clip of him Calling for the murder of anti-war activists from the internet.
Last week, radio talk show host Michael Radin called for listeners to track down and murder anti-war activist Mark Dice.
After Dice downloaded the show's free podcast and posted the 3 minute and 21 second clip on YouTube, Reagan filed a copyright infringement claim to remove the clip in an attempt to prevent it from circulating.
You see, It was ending up in too many people's email boxes.
And if this caught national attention, I mean, there's no way to save his job.
He commissioned for our murders.
Friday, June 13th, Dice received a call from Reagan's producer demanding the clip be removed, claiming they hold the copyright, and Dice explained that falls under the Fair Use Laws and the clip is evidence of a crime, which it is.
The clip was available at the following URL until Wednesday, June 8th at 343 Pacific Time.
Reagan also removed the entire hour of his show from his podcast directory, so others can't download that part of the show and hear his statements.
Hour 2 of the June 10th show is now missing from the directory, located at RadioAmerica.org.
Audio clips of Reagan's statements may still be available on other YouTube accounts if someone searches for it.
Reagan's statements were made after he heard that Dice and others were sending letters and DVDs to troops stationed in Iraq which supported the idea that the United States officials had allowed the 9-11 attacks to happen on purpose and aided in their execution for political leverage.
According to a 2006 Scripps Howard News Service poll, 36% of Americans believe this.
Oh, and then there's the transcript of the statements.
I would probably try to play it from YouTube, but I'm going to guess most of them are pulled.
It's pretty unbelievable.
And like I said, we're going to have Mark on in a couple minutes.
We're also going to have Jonathan from We Are Change Colorado on in the top of the hour in the second half.
And we're going to be playing some of these urban warfare drills that are going on right now in Colorado.
We've been reporting on in the last few days.
Then at noon, we're going to have Barbara Lowe Fisher from the National Vaccine Information Center.
At 1, we're going to have Bob Chapman.
And 2, we're going to have Michael Markovich.
And I'm hoping that Alex is going to call in.
He is on vacation, but you know, let's get his opinion, at least, on these urban warfare drills.
I really feel like they're gearing up for something big at the DNC.
From trying to provocateur well-meaning people into violence, I'm surrounding them up.
It really looks like they're gonna have their bases covered And this is scary to me You know, I mean again Apache helicopters Blackhawks, they're all being used right now So people who are like, you know That's black helicopter stuff Jason.
I don't want to hear it.
Well black helicopters.
Unfortunately do exist It's a simple Google search away.
They've been in America for some time now Okay It's time to stop being in denial.
It's time to show people this.
It's time to say, hey, wait a minute.
Maybe this shouldn't be going on in our country.
Jonathan posted the videos over at loosechange911.com.
I'm sure Prison Planet will be doing a story very soon.
And we're going to have Mark Dice on the other side.
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jason bermas
Folks, we're back at the Alex Jones Show, and joining us now is Mark Dice of The Resistance.
And Mark, why don't you just tell the people what happened to your YouTube account, how upsetting it is, and how you may not be able to recover this stuff now.
unidentified
Listen, my entire YouTube account is gone.
mark dice
I had probably over 60 different videos with I think millions of views.
Some of them were up into the multiple hundreds of thousands.
They are all gone.
Permanently suspended.
account permanently deleted Now, I don't know if they were able to pull some strings and get the entire account deleted or if I had exceeded my quota of so-called copyrighted material on there, but this just goes to show that this guy, this clown, is just scrambling to try to dump any evidence of his crime and of his statements down into the memory hole.
I checked a couple other YouTube videos yesterday of his statements, and another one was removed due to terms of service violations or whatever.
don't know if that entire account was closed I just think it would be an interesting phenomenon if everybody would start downloading the videos that are there and just continue to post them.
And let's get hundreds of these things out there.
Also, like you mentioned in the beginning of the show, he removed the entire podcast of that day, which is a free podcast.
He removed it from the podcast directory.
Tuesday, June 10th, the second hour is mysteriously now missing from the podcast directory on the bottom of his page.
Also, my entire appearance on his show is missing the entire hour, if not the entire day.
I believe it's actually the entire day.
Monday's show is gone, not available for download.
So this crowd is scrambling, trying to claim copyright infringement when the podcasts are freely available, downloadable from his site.
So apparently it's okay for people to download the podcast from his site, but not on YouTube.
And like I said, his producer, Brett, Last Friday told me that their lawyers wanted the clip pulled, said that they own the copyright and I had clearly stated that it was fair use and he decided to apparently take some action against it and this is just disgusting.
What's even more disgusting is nobody in the press has covered this issue yet.
Nobody. Nobody in the mainstream press has covered this issue.
A few stories on Google News and so at this point I'm just going to continue To use this as an engine and as a reason to just ramp up things, ramp up the effort here, man.
And somebody called in the other day on the show and suggested that we use MySpace as an outreach tool.
So let's expand Operation Inform the Soldier.
And again, I don't want this to overshadow Operation Inform the Soldier.
So you can go on MySpace, and now I think they changed the menu items a little bit, but you can search under Friends or you can browse.
Used to be able to just click the search and the browse feature.
You can find out and search people in different cities, different countries.
You can search for people in Iraq.
You can come up with countless Marines.
And we can befriend them.
We can email them videos and links and all kinds of stuff and become directly communicating with them.
So I just...
I'm so frustrated right now.
And I want to thank everybody out there for their support.
And I want to thank you, Jason.
And I just want to also tip my hat to you.
You're doing a great job filling in for Alex Jones.
I know a lot of us If we couldn't tune into the show in the morning to get our daily dose of the news, I don't know what we would do.
So I just want to say, you're doing a great job.
Everybody out there is doing a great job.
And it's not just me that Michael Reagan wants to kill.
He wants to kill all of you.
Everybody who's listening to this show right now.
Michael Reagan and the neocons and these Nazis want you all dead.
jason bermas
Absolutely, and that's why we're going to be giving out Radio America's president's contact information yet again today.
If you want to email Jim Roberts and let him know you're very upset, That Michael Reagan still has a show and has not been reprimanded for his actions.
It is J as in the letter, Roberts, at RadioAmerica.org or JRoberts at AmericanVeteranCenter.org.
And I might say that if you're going to throw those emails out, you might want to email YouTube and let them know how upset you are that Mark Dice's account has been pulled.
When, you know, he's part of the media, folks.
He's a media critic.
He's an author.
You know, he's had a radio show, he's a pundit, he puts out press releases.
There is no excuse for them pulling an entire account over a three-minute clip which he has more than enough right to use, seeing he's in it!
So, if you want to give them a call, it is 703-302-1000 over at RadioAmerica.org and let them know how pleased, displeased you are that, again, they're letting their hosts Threaten our lives, and then they're trying to cover it up after the fact.
They don't want this to be a national news story.
They're doing everything in their power, Mark, to try to put this down the little, uh, the, uh, the blackout trail.
I mean, they don't want this as a national news story.
They haven't wanted this national news story from the very beginning because I, number one, I think that he knows he can, he can legally be reprimanded.
He might even do some jail time, maybe even some probation.
And this guy, He's a guy that probably has never had to go through that in his entire life.
He looks like a pampered guy.
He doesn't know what the value of human life is, obviously, when he's saying that he needs to take grenades and put it up babies' bottoms.
mark dice
The man is a very sick man.
He's called for the hanging of Howard Dean.
Yeah, he wants to blow up little babies in the Middle East and then kill all the mothers as well.
And this is an opportunity for us to really effect a change, to hold somebody accountable, to get Them fired, you know, we we tried to get him to Bush impeached Dennis Kucinich is introduced the articles of impeachment It seems that these guys can get away with so much and just let it slide and let it slide But here we have a chance to get somebody held accountable on one level to get them to lose their job to lose their propaganda platform and Also,
I just want to thank everybody so much I just can't believe that I'm stuck in the middle of this and this is just distracting me from getting the resistance manifesto revised edition out But this is something that needs to be done And also, please, if anybody wants to call the mainstream press and just demand that this story be covered, because I spent hours and hours emailing everybody, calling news stations, and nobody's covered this.
Nobody at all.
The only people who've called me have been a couple left-wing radio stations and Fairness in Media reporting some website.
I don't know how popular they are.
But nobody's covered this.
And so if we just continue to call the Fox News studios and even the left-wing, you would think that MSNBC or Or somebody in these more liberal networks would be able to cover this and expose this criminal for what he is.
But this is just beyond the pale, and I want to just continue to use this as an excuse to show that these are criminals, that they can get away with what they want to do, so we need to just prevent that.
And Radio America, I know, has been getting hundreds of calls.
The FCC has been getting dozens of complaints, probably hundreds.
I was on the phone with the FCC trying to find out what the I mean when Howard Stern got a couple million dollar fine just for making some kind of sick jokes,
and this guy goes by Scott Free, that doesn't sit well with me and with a lot of A lot of people who even call us kooks, Jason.
A lot of people that don't even like us and that aren't even on board understand that this needs to be dealt with.
jason bermas
Absolutely. And when Stern did it, like you said, it was just a couple of off-color jokes.
They really presented no harm to anybody.
And there's full coverage right now over at InfoWars.com.
Reagan files copyright claim in an attempt to get Mark Dice's death threat removed.
Let's remind people what this guy said.
Let's play the clip.
Let's play it.
Just so you know, this is...
This is what this guy's gonna get away with, if we let him.
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Oh, gosh.
There's something else in the news, too, you need to know about.
There are troops in Iraq who are probably going to be getting more than letters.
You know they have mail call.
You ever go to a summer camp like I did?
You live for mail call?
I'm still waiting for the first letter from my dad and my mom and everything.
Anyway, you're waiting for a mail call and hopefully you get one.
Well, what's going to be going on mail call is a little bit different now.
They're going to be getting mail, but they're not going to be care packages.
There is a group that's sending letters to our troops in Iraq and DVDs claiming 9-11 was an inside job.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. And that they should rethink why they're fighting.
They ought to take these...
Excuse me, folks.
I'm going to say this.
We ought to find the people who are doing this, take them out, and shoot them.
Really. Just find the people who are...
You're sending those letters to our troops to demoralize our troops to do what they're doing.
You take them out.
They are traitors to this country.
And shoot them.
You have a problem with that?
Deal with it.
But anybody who would do that doesn't deserve to live.
You shoot them, you call them traitors, that's what they are, and you shoot them dead.
I'll pay for the bullet.
Mark Dice, the founder of the Resistance, which he calls a media watchdog group, says that the U.S. government was responsible for the September 11th terrorist attacks and that the armed forces should know it.
People want the facts.
The Marines are hungry for the truth.
What got them there in Iraq?
Why are they risking their lives?
And we're going to help them understand that.
So he's going to send letters and declassified government documents that he says can prove the government's responsibility for the terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.
and he's urging others to do the same.
Now, Captain Pete Hexeth, Executive Director of Bets for Freedom.
jason bermas
Alright, I've had enough of that, but it's clear.
He is calling for our executions.
He's about to say that Mark Dice needs to be taken out on the firing range.
Doesn't even deserve a blindfold.
Folks, are we going to let him get away with it?
I mean, I know this broadcast has a vast audience.
I know we have great power here.
So I'm going to say it one more time.
You need to call this number and let them know how displeased you are with Michael Reagan.
It is 703-302-1000.
You need to say, this will not be stood for.
We're a peaceful group.
There is no need to advocate for our murders, Mark.
And now they're trying to intimidate us even further by pulling YouTube accounts that have that very clip.
mark dice
Yeah, now he's covering up evidence.
You know, and I want to thank 9-11 Truth Inland Empire.
They were out protesting outside of the studios up there in L.A. and everybody that's just sending stuff out.
And again, if you don't want to afford the money to send packages to the soldiers, a lot of times you can send just a priority envelope.
It's like five bucks and you can send under 13 ounces of stuff to the soldiers.
jason bermas
All right, we'll be back after this with Mark Dice.
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And if you want to express your displeasure with YouTube in something other than an email, we got a phone number for you.
You want to let YouTube know it's not okay to just pull people's accounts when all they're doing is posting really up protection and commenting on it.
I mean, Again, this guy calls for our deaths.
We post a three minute clip and they're going to pull entire accounts.
The phone number to get in touch with YouTube and express your displeasure is 1-650-253-0000.
That's 1-650-253-0000.
But again, we don't want this to overshadow the program that we're putting together for the troops.
We still want people to Yeah, like I said, we're getting the letters and DVDs to the soldiers.
mark dice
A lot of times you can send them a package under 13 ounces for 5 bucks if you use a U.S. Priority mail envelope.
And you can also get their addresses.
You have to get a specific address from them.
There's a couple different services that will do that.
Adoptaussoldier.org is one.
Or you can just Google how to write letters to soldiers, how to send packages to soldiers.
And if you don't have the money, if you don't want to send the postage, and if you can't copy DVDs and things, There's a couple other services, letters2soldiers.org, and they'll connect you with an email of a soldier over there.
You can use your MySpace page and browse the friends list and browse the country of Iraq, or browse different groups, find Iraq veterans groups, and you can email these people directly.
And that's really what caused this hatred and this call to have us kill this, because we're taking it up to a new level here.
Just informing other people about what's going on.
We're going straight to the troops, straight to the ones that are risking their lives, that are having their lives put in danger based on these lies.
I mean, all of us are affected by 9-11 and by the loss of our freedoms, but nobody else more so than the people that are being shot at and having bombs thrown at them and really risking their lives and being killed and maimed and leaving their families for months and months at a time.
uh... to secure this country and and many of them uh...
you-know-who believe that they're uh...
they're supporting president bush believe that this is a just cause and so if we could just reach out to them i think that that's the last frontier of uninformed people and once we become uh...
friends with these people once they become informed of the circumstances and once we create a climate over there where people can address these issues I think that this entire war is going to come crumbling down, and once the soldiers start joining 9-11 Truth and more Veterans for Truth organizations, then we can really get somewhere.
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So that's what Operation Inform the Soldiers is all about.
So again, you can just Google information on how to send packages, DVDs, and once again, You might not want to send a DVD and a package because somebody might go through this just to make sure because there's certain items that are not supposed to be sent over there.
Pornography, alcohol, and other items.
So somebody might go through the packages.
So just label the DVD a cool Hollywood film that's still in theaters or just got released or just say, hey, here's some movies for you guys and let's get it out to the soldiers and send them some care packages and some other goods to help make their time over there a little more A little easier on them and maybe some board games and some other things.
And also, you could find lists of items that the soldiers need that'll help make their tours over there a little bit easier for them.
jason bermas
That's right.
The more fun you make these packages, the more likely it's gonna be that these people watch the videos and say, you know what, this person's obviously concerned with my safety, with my well-being, he cares.
If you were to spend, you know, 40 bucks on one of the latest DVD players, you can literally burn files onto the new DVDs and put five or six movies onto one disc.
I know I do that.
And then you can just spindle them up and maybe you can put a couple of Hollywood features sparsed in and out of there.
The main goal is to reach out to these people in a manner where they know we're trying to help them, where they look at this information and go, man, is this what I'm fighting for?
I don't want to be fighting for this.
This doesn't make any sense.
Well, when is a good time to tell somebody the truth?
Especially somebody with an automatic weapon that can literally take away the lives of, you know, dozens of people in one day with one bad decision.
Which I know has happened.
You know, these people aren't perfect, folks.
They're human beings.
And they need guidance just like the rest of us.
Mark Dice, thank you so much for joining us.
We will keep the listeners posted as to what goes on with YouTube.
Remember, The number to get in touch with YouTube is 650-253-0000.
We'll be back after this.
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In a half an hour, we're going to have Barbara Lowe Fisher on the National Vaccine Information Center.
Then at 12.30, we're going to have somebody who worked inside the governor's mansion here in Austin, Texas.
Update you on that story.
Remember, they're now saying it was politically motivated.
Probably a terrorist.
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But first, we've been talking about these Colorado martial law drills.
These urban warfare training drills, black helicopters, ex-military, current military, police, all intertwined, detention centers.
And from what I'm watching in the videos, I mean, you can watch these helicopters flying over, going from rooftop to rooftop in different scenarios.
They're dropping glow sticks with pro-America propaganda on them.
Here with us, joining us to discuss this, is Jonathan from We Are Change Colorado.
Jonathan, are you with me?
Do we not have Jonathan yet?
Oh. Alright, well hopefully we'll be going to him soon.
But if you want to see the videos, right now they're posted over at loosechange911.com and it's pretty incredible stuff.
I mean, downtown Denver, It has been turned into this urban warfare training center.
It's it's pretty wild to watch these guys Landing on rooftops of businesses jumping out of these things like all hell's broken loose and I Don't know I haven't seen anything like it since the police state films by Alex Jones And it is very unnerving to watch these guys in full black uniforms They're not supposed to be talking to anybody The mainstream press doesn't seem to be covering it at all.
They do have one short local news clip intertwined in these YouTube clips.
I guess the one report about the helicopters being in the air.
But what?
They can't follow up on it?
I mean, seriously.
They know the helicopters are in the air.
They don't want to drive down 20 feet to see what's going on on the ground?
They don't want to take a look at these urban war training exercises?
I just don't understand it.
Just don't understand it.
Well, hopefully we can get Jonathan on because he's our eyes and ears on the ground here at the InfoWars team right now when it comes to these drills.
Jonathan, are you there?
jonathan elinoff
What's going on, man?
jason bermas
Hey, man.
Alright, so you've posted these videos.
I'm sure they're going to be doing stories on them on InfoWars and PrisonPlanet.com.
But why don't you just sum up what you've been doing the last two days and why?
jonathan elinoff
Well, we're chasing around these black helicopters.
Originally, the news did not report on it.
They were actually not allowed to.
And we actually have our Monday night We Are Change meeting, and one of our members, Turtle, was on his way to the meeting, and he literally saw black helicopters flying right over his car on the I-25.
And, uh, there were dudes hanging off.
There were chain guns.
I mean, it looked like something out of the movies.
And he was, like, swerving and stuff, and he showed up to the meeting, and he was like, dude, I felt like this guy from the movie Conspiracy Theory.
I thought they were coming after me.
And we were like, yeah, yeah, whatever.
Later, of course, that night, we went out, and there they are, training, landing on buildings, using live fire.
We posted the videos, firing paint rounds, firing some kind of It's another kind of lethal weapon.
We're not sure what the projectiles are, but we showed images and pictures of what we found.
All throughout Denver, abandoned buildings being converted into detention facilities, everything.
So, we immediately decided to check it out.
Found out that the military is conducting drills, exercises all week long in Denver.
jason bermas
And when did this begin, by the way?
This began over the weekend on Monday.
When did this start to happen?
jonathan elinoff
Well, they originally did a bio-warfare exercise a couple of weeks ago.
And then there was a bunch of military trucks and black SUVs and white SUVs with tinted windows downtown at the convention center with, on the side of their vehicles, it said, weapons of mass destruction civil response team.
jason bermas
Yeah, and that was part of the scenario where a dirty bomb went off and 20,000 people were killed outside and inside the center, and that's where, of course, the DNC is going to be held.
And then, exactly, and then they basically needed a way to get all these bodies and injured people to the hospital.
And it was, it was like, when did they start that exercise?
I want to say they did it right on, right on Tuesday was when that one started, correct?
jonathan elinoff
Yeah, I mean the whole, and then of course these drills that they're conducting all week, every night, we've been following them around.
They evacuated 1600 Broadway, which is the Colorado State Building.
It's one of Denver's largest buildings.
Blackhawks were landing on the roof all night last night, jumping from buildings to buildings.
Of course, we got footage of this.
People were protesting, and the media is, for the most part, remaining silent.
Now, there was a couple of reports on it the other night.
I posted them in the video, and everything's on Truthline, everything's on MooseChange blog.
It's on WeAreChangeColorado.org.
It's starting to get out there.
We have the exclusive video, folks, 23 minutes.
I edited it down from eight hours of footage.
We basically split up in four teams.
And just drove around looking for these things because we knew they were flying around.
They're not telling us where they are.
So the video is basically like storm chasers, except we're chasing these black helicopters.
And we ended up discovering one of the facilities, which is a staging ground for a detention facility, the old Children's Hospital on 21st and Downing in Denver.
jason bermas
That's funny because you see that, you see them landing on that facility and it's got like a big smile on it.
It's pretty ridiculous.
jonathan elinoff
It is ridiculous.
The whole building's fenced off barbed wire.
There's security around it.
We actually just went up to it yesterday to see if there'd be any training there.
And I'm not joking, Jason.
About maybe 10 seconds in, this car screeches right around us, and this guy runs out.
He's got a badge on him.
He's like, hey, what are you doing?
You've got to get away from this fence.
And we got this fellow on camera.
We're like, hey, man, we just want to know if there's any black helicopters today.
We're just spectators.
He's like, you guys got to get out of here right now.
And, uh, it was...
I couldn't believe how fast he was on us.
We were just walking up to the fence.
jason bermas
Well, why don't you talk about these, uh...
Why don't you talk about these little pro-propaganda, um, glow sticks they're dropping with American flags?
jonathan elinoff
Yeah, they're, uh...
It's almost like they're practicing either...
We're not sure if they're fragging or practicing flashbangs or tear gas or riot control.
We don't know.
But as the helicopters fly low, and this is all throughout the city, they're dropping these, like, glow sticks With US Army patches and American flag patches zip-tied around them.
And like, kids are going to pick them up and people are like, oh cool, the military's dropping these on us and we're the only ones that are like, um...
You know, that could be anything.
That could be a test for, you know, who knows what they're dropping on us.
jason bermas
Well, it's totally conditioning.
It's basically coming to say, hey, we're the good guys.
We're here to help.
Look, we're going to assist you.
And they're doing an urban warfare exercise where they're literally Again, rounding up dead bodies and probably quarantining areas, and they have to prep the rest of the people to know that the military's in charge, so they're gonna drop these little leaflets or whatever, and I've seen them.
You know, again, they're posted, and it just looks...
It looks unreal!
It doesn't even look like America anymore.
It literally is unmarked helicopters, Apaches and Blackhawks, flying around the cities, landing on rooftops, It looks like it's coming out of a movie.
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jonathan elinoff
We thought it was like, you know, you know what it looks like?
It looks like one of those super villains in a Hollywood action film, and he's like about to rob a bank or something, and here's his black helicopters and his little mercenary crew, because they're all on mark.
By the way, they're all holding weapons with live fire.
And so when they're landing, everyone's...
I mean, when we were filming it, there were children screaming, people were running.
Nobody knows, because there's no forewarning.
Nobody knows where they're drilling.
Nobody knows where they're exercising.
They're just going where they want throughout the city.
The Denver Police Department, we spoke to Sonny Jackson, the spokesperson for the DPD, and he said, yep, you know, they don't tell us, and we just kind of comply, and they're, you know, they're doing anti-terror drills, and it's for your safety.
And I was like, are you kidding me?
I mean, the whole thing is nuts.
jason bermas
whole city under martial law right now well some some law officers actually know that this is bad news and have known this was bad news for years and uh...
have refused to have this type of thing come to their city and when they refuse they just do it anyway but at least those people have the foresight you know it's bad and more than the people but when they get a a compliant officer like that who are honestly believe that this is for our safety uh...
this is nothing more than a domestic Takeover drill.
This is nothing more than to try to put the kibosh on our First Amendment this summer outside of the DNC, which is going to be held from August 25th to the 28th.
We already know the only group that has a permit to protest there stems from a group who called for violence for God's sakes.
Who called for red paint to be thrown on people with cameras, cameras destructions, to bring a shield, to wear armor, Total provocateur bull nonsense and they basically just change their name and they're going to be there.
They're going to try to provocateur something.
They would love to see something pop off so these black helicopters are flying around during the DNC.
So the riot police have carte blanche to do whatever they want.
And so that the people with a real voice and a real issue are nowhere near the Democratic convention at all.
You know, and I see that as the whole deal.
I mean, they're prepping it just in time.
We're in June, mid-June.
We're two months away from this really, it's going to be a historic event, whether you like it or not.
You know, a lot of people are brainwashed by the talking points they've put out there.
But there is a very good possibility that we may have not only our first African-American president, but possibly our first woman vice president.
You know, he hasn't chosen officially yet.
Mm-hmm.
During the Bilderberg conference this year, you know, magically, Jonathan, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton secretly meet in Northern Virginia on the night that Bilderberg kicks off in, guess where?
Northern Virginia.
His press secretary's on a plane saying, well, Barack wanted to go to some secret meetings with some people that he didn't want the press around.
Really? Huh.
That's interesting.
But nobody on that plane had the foresight to put two and two together and come up with four Jonathan.
That's my big issue with that.
Those guys acted all upset.
Oh, but with the press corps.
Four? It's just amazing the spin they put out and the fact that they don't even want to pursue the real story.
jonathan elinoff
Exactly. And the whole city, you know, for the DNC coming up, we've noticed already facilities that are set up as temporary grounds for...
we're not sure what.
But there's two major facilities that...
there's tents being set up, there's fencing.
We're going to be posting a video tonight from what we shot yesterday.
That's not out yet.
Um, Black Hawks were landing on rooftops, the tallest buildings in Denver.
But, um, they look like, like, sniper teams or something.
But, uh, looks like there's a detention facility about ten blocks from the convention center.
And the whole convention center, by the way, the National Guard in Colorado is going to be protecting that.
And the entire convention center has ten-foot fences that they're building around it with gates.
And anybody who wants to get near it has to be bussed in.
They approach these gates, the gates open.
You enter, and then the gates close.
And in order to get on this bus, you have to have a pass.
So the press is going to be basically embedded behind these big ten-foot fences about a quarter mile in to the convention center.
And this huge, Auschwitz-looking-like facility is actually the convention.
So all these demonstrations are going to be way outside of it in free speech zones, you know, up to two miles away.
They've got detention facilities set up to house people.
They got black helicopters training to drop, who knows what they're planning to drop on us, but you know, could be tear gas, could be anything, we don't know.
They've got sound beam weapons, they've got riot gear, there's 50 million dollars the city spent on security forces and new equipment.
The whole city, I'm not joking Jason, looks like they're preparing for war.
It's nuts.
jason bermas
Absolutely, and if there was a better time to join We Are Change, it couldn't be any closer to now.
If you're a listener out in Colorado, and you're upset with what you're hearing, with what you're seeing, because you live in Denver, well, I got some news for you.
It's time to step up and join We Are Change.
Step up to the plate!
Take a swing!
Take a shot at the title!
You know?
I mean, what is stopping you from activating?
You know, Jonathan doesn't do this, uh, you know, for money or for fame.
He does this because our Constitution and Bill of Rights hang in the balance.
Our very way of life hangs in the balance.
And the more and more we let this criminal elite get away with provocatoring events to make the people look bad, and make authority look good, because, you know what, you could have a dozen people die at this DNC, and it'll be justified, and it'll be the police saved us.
You know, again, they tried to provocateur violence already at this thing.
Red paint, wear a mask, bring a shield.
Destroy cameras.
jonathan elinoff
The demonstrations are even more outrageous.
There's demonstrations to surround the federal courthouse.
There's demonstrations to bust an illegal immigrant and have them rioting in front of the Capitol building.
There's one demonstration to surround the Denver Mint, which is only one of, I believe, three coin mints in the United States.
We have some footage of that.
That is only about a block away from the convention center.
It's right across the street from the city and county of Denver courthouse.
It's on its caddy corner to the city's jail, right across the street from the brand new jail they're building.
It's dead center into a whole world of police headquarters.
And one of the demonstrations that were set up was to surround this Denver Mint and attempt to levitate the building.
And that's the words from the group that's planning it.
You know, you can't touch that fence without being...
They can shoot you.
I mean, it's a federal facility.
And just surrounding the federal courthouse and demanding the release of prisoners on death row, that demonstration is asking for trouble.
Every single one of the demonstrations that I've seen that these groups planning has nothing to do about messages.
I don't even know what the messages are, to be honest with you.
It just looks like they're agitational.
They're aggravated.
It looks like they're provocative.
It puts demonstrators in a dangerous proximity to police.
jason bermas
It looks like they want to make Rush Limbaugh's dream come true of riots in Denver.
I mean, when the neocons are calling for riots in Denver, you better watch out.
Especially somebody as high level as Rush Limbaugh, who's an obvious operative.
I mean, you don't just get caught smuggling in a bunch of Viagra to go outside of the country Uh, without your wife, by the way.
Gee, I wonder what he was doing with all that, and all these other pain pills, and it just goes under the radar.
You know?
I mean, this guy's a hardcore drug addict, and he's taking them across, uh, country lines, and nothing happens.
Well, that's because he's- Yeah, Rush Bimbo.
jonathan elinoff
Yeah. Yeah, Rush Bimbo.
We really appreciate it.
And that guy, you know, and the truth is, people like Rush Limbaugh and, and, uh, this, this Mike Reagan, you know, these guys, what they don't get is they're the minority right now.
They have no idea how big this movement's getting.
They better pick a side, because they're on the wrong one now.
jason bermas
Absolutely. It's We Are Change Colorado here on the Alex Jones Show.
I'm Jason Bermas, stepping in for the week.
Hopefully Alex will be calling in soon.
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I am Jason Bermas.
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If you want to get at me, it's MySpace.com slash Jason Bermas.
I've been getting a ton of emails and a ton of great tips, so I thank all you guys that are getting a hold of me and not whining or ninnying, but actually throwing me news so I can throw it on this program and bring it to all of you.
Look, if you're in Colorado, if you're close to Denver, now's the time To join We Are Change Colorado.
I believe the website is WeAreChangeColorado.org.
And if you don't live in Denver, if you're outside of Denver, if you're outside of Colorado altogether, you can still help by donating to these young men and women.
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Some people are emailing and saying, oh well they only have a few helicopters.
Well remember black helicopters didn't exist 15 years ago and there's so many more of us if they tried something well We'd be able to fight back.
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We have a donations model on the WeAreChangedColorado.org website.
We also have TroopAlliance.net as a donations module up there.
Those two sites are connected, basically.
It's the same members on both.
TroopAlliance is a little bit more international membership.
And basically, we're the only two Denver groups next to Colorado 9-11 Visibility, and we are...
We're going to be covering everything we can at that DNC.
We've got about 60 people who have pledged To be down there.
We're setting up legal viewers.
We're getting press passes.
We're trying to get basically little convoys set up so we don't get harassed or abused by the police, but we want to get in there so we can cover whatever's going to go down.
And so we're coordinating basically a plan to go throughout the city.
We need money.
We need help.
Most of us are all working Americans as normal.
We don't have much money on the side.
Anything helps.
A dollar helps.
You know, we also hand out 800 DVDs a week, up to that much.
So, one of the most powerful things we can do is start educating.
I handed out DVDs yesterday to security guards and people who were running the drills over at the old Children's Hospital.
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What DVDs do you hand out?
jonathan elinoff
I always hand out, we have our own multi-DVDs, but we hand out anything from Terror Storm to Loose Change, America Freedom to Fascism, Endgame, Washington, you're fired.
American drug war.
Those are the DVDs we're handing out in mass.
We also have compilation DVDs that basically have all those on there.
So we're trying to hand out information right to the hands of these people.
We were talking to a security guard who was at the fence at this abandoned hospital, and I handed him DVDs, and he seemed really interested.
That was the great thing.
i can't tell you how many people we woke up that were running up to these helicopters to see what they were doing they had no idea what they were there and we even asked people to if you're going to love it we have people You know, what do you think about it?
Some people were so brainwashed that they were saying things like, oh, it's fine, it's great.
Yeah, they have all the rights.
They can do whatever they want.
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They have no idea about the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
And you can check these videos out over at loosechange911.com.
Jonathan, thank you so much.
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so. All right, folks, we're back with Barbara Lowe Fisher of NVIC.org, an organization that started up in 1982, so they've been fighting this battle for over 25 years now.
jason bermas
Wow. Barbara, you said that most people in your organization got involved through basically vaccinating their children and them having an adverse reaction to it and mostly becoming autistic.
I mean, this has been a real struggle for this to gain mainstream acceptance in any way, shape, or form, but I've seen in the last year or 18 months with, you know, celebrities like Jenny McCarthy writing a book called Louder Than Words, her boyfriend Jim Carrey and her marching on Washington, them having them on Oprah Winfrey.
That this issue is starting to get big and people are starting to take notice.
barbara fisher
Well, it's interesting.
Those of us back in the 80s, we had children who were brain injured by the DPT vaccine.
And we worked for 14 years to get a safer vaccine in here for America's children.
But during the last 25 years, we have seen a more than tripling of the numbers of doses of vaccines that the government tells us our children have to get.
We are the most highly vaccinated population in the world.
We force our children to get more vaccines than any other country in the world.
And during that same time period, we have seen this incredible increase in chronic disease and disability among our children as we've vaccinated them more and more.
Now one in six American children is learning disabled.
One in nine has asthma.
1 in 100 to 150 is diagnosed autistic, and 1 in 450 child is diabetic.
We have an epidemic of chronic disease and disability, even though we're vaccinating our children now more than ever.
So those of us in the 1980s, our children suffer brain inflammation after DPT vaccine, and what we're seeing now is children are getting sometimes 8 to 10 vaccines on one day, and then they're regressing into poor health.
See, back when we started, autism was affecting like 2 in 10,000 children.
It was just not the problem it is today.
So my child was not rendered autistic.
He suffered a brain inflammation within hours of his fourth DPT shot at age two and a half, and he suffered a mild brain dysfunction, took the form of multiple learning disabilities and attention deficit disorder.
Because the vaccine-induced injury can run the gamut from the milder forms, which is learning disabilities, ADHD, Through to autistic behaviors, mental retardation, seizure disorders, and of course the most severe consequences, death.
And what we're seeing is doctors are sticking their heads in the sand.
And when they give all these vaccines to children and the children regress into poor health, they are denying that the vaccines had anything to do with the children's regression into poor health.
And this we've seen over and over again with each new vaccine that comes into the schedule.
Doctors saying, oh, you know, when your child suffers paralysis or seizures or, you know, regressing to autism.
jason bermas
Absolutely. However, I do think that this year there was a landmark case where they did have to admit that the vaccinations did cause Autistic-like symptoms.
They wouldn't cop to the fact that it actually caused the child's autism, but it did say that it was the vaccinations.
I forget how they worded it.
They said it attacked some kind of, I want to say, mitochondria or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jason bermas
Do you know about it?
Tell the listeners.
barbara fisher
I do know about that.
That's the Hannah Poling case.
But what's interesting about that case is the media kind of made a big deal of it, even though there had been cases Prior to the Hannah Poling case that was awarded compensation through the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program under a law that was passed in 1986 that I and my organization worked on, actually, back in the 1980s, there have been awards previous for DPT vaccine-induced brain inflammation.
That is, you know, brain inflammation after DPT where the kids have become autistic, but they've never been talked about.
It was always kept kind of hush-hush.
Well, with the Hannah Poling case, the parents were medical professionals.
He had been a neurologist at Johns Hopkins, and she was a nurse who then became a lawyer.
And I think it became a very high-profile case, and it was part of a case in the omnibus hearing that is looking at autism and vaccines, and whether or not autistic children should be compensated under this vaccine and decompensation program.
When they conceded, because the government conceded this case, What they basically were saying, well, you know, Hannah had a pre-existing medical condition that just made her more susceptible to the, I think she got seven or nine vaccines on one day.
I can't remember exactly.
And that made her, and yes, her brain inflammation could be considered to be, and autism could be considered to be connected with it.
But Hannah's parents are saying they don't believe that she had the mitochondrial disorder prior to the vaccination.
They believe those vaccines may have Absolutely.
jason bermas
And then the other big question that I get all the time, you know, I wake my friends up, I wake my family up, I have a little niece myself, and even my brother is like, well, how do I go about them not vaccinating my kid?
Because they tell me it's the law.
They tell me I have to vaccinate my child.
And I always say to them, well, you have to be stern with these people.
You have to say, you know, there's a conscientious objective waiver and that you want to see this and your kid isn't going to take the vaccination.
How do you tell people to go about keeping it away from their kids?
barbara fisher
Well, on our website at mdic.org, we have all the state laws and the regulations governing vaccine laws.
Because vaccine laws are state laws, they're not federal laws.
Even though the federal government, the Centers for Disease Control, health officials make federal vaccine policy that then is Thank you so much.
there is a medical exemption that has to be written by a medical doctor or a doctor of osteopathy.
Those are very hard to get, because the government and the Marin County Pediatrics have so narrowed the contraindications to vaccination, that is, the reasons why you shouldn't vaccinate, that almost no child qualifies for a medical exemption.
And when doctors do try to write medical exemptions, they're often questioned by health officials in the state and harassed.
Then there are all but two states that have a religious exemption to vaccination.
Mississippi and West Virginia don't have a religious exemption.
And some states are very narrow in their definition of what qualifies for a religious exemption, and others are wider.
So you really need to read the law and what you need to do to file that.
And then there's a, in about 17 states, there's a philosophical, personal belief, or conscientious belief exemption.
Those are the states in this country that come closest to conforming to the ethical principle of informed consent.
That is, that you have the right, as a health care consumer, to know the benefits and risks of a medical intervention and be able to make a free, voluntary decision about it.
And if you live in one of those states, you're very lucky.
And the thing is that a lot of leading doctors and medical organizations are calling for an end to religious and I'm good.
belief exemptions.
They want nothing but the medical exemption to be enforced in this country.
And the National Vaccine Information Center has been sounding the alarm for 25 years.
We've been saying, "America, you've got to wake up.
You're going to have your right taken away from you to make voluntary vaccination decisions." The American Academy of Pediatrics in the last few days has written a letter to all of its members.
They are the organization that represents pediatricians in this country.
And they basically have said, we are going to fight the parents who are trying to make vaccination choices that don't conform to government and to the AAP policy.
They are going to mount a national campaign, advertising and public education campaign, to try to, well I think they're going to try to demonize people who want to make voluntary choices.
You know, right now, the government says our kids are supposed to get 69 doses of 16 vaccines from birth, from the day of birth through age 18. That's a phenomenal amount of vaccinations.
And we've never, ever done this to our children in all of our history.
We have never exposed our children to so much atypical manipulation of the immune system through vaccination.
And so I think that people have got to really be vigilant and monitor what their state legislatures do.
We try to get the information out to people.
I have a vaccine e-newsletter that I send out weekly to try to keep people up to date on what's happening in your state, what's happening nationally about this very important issue that affects every child in this country and every family in this country.
The AAP is suggesting that doctors throw out Absolutely, and the mainstream media uses such propaganda and lies to try to demonize us.
jason bermas
Such as this Time Magazine cover where they say, we're putting the rest of you at risk, and then they just make the blatant lie in here that 1 in 150, the prevalence of autism among eight-year-olds in the U.S., autism rates have not declined, even though thimerosal, which some believe contributes to the disease, was removed from the vaccines in 2001.
It hasn't been removed from the vaccines.
What happens is, if you tell them that you want a non-thimerosal vaccination, they can order it for you.
And then you can take that one.
But it's still in the majority of the vaccines out there, isn't it?
barbara fisher
Well, it is still in the full strength in the influenza vaccine that the CDC now says every single child from age 6 months through 18 has got to get every year.
That is, it has the full amount.
It is still in the diphtheria tetanus shot, which children get if they don't get DTAP.
It has been reduced to trace levels in most of the other childhood vaccines.
But, you know, if you're giving a child every single year a mercury-containing vaccine, and that child happens to be susceptible, genetically susceptible, for example, to not being able to efficiently excrete mercury from the body, you can really be setting that child up for some serious problems.
Yes, the autism rate has continued to climb, even though they have reduced the trace levels In a lot of the vaccines that are given to children since about 2002.
But the problem is, is there are many other components of vaccines that could also be causing brain inflammation.
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Much, much deserved vacation.
I'm Jason Bermas.
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We're talking to Barbara Lowe Fisher of the National Vaccine Information Center.
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That's NVIC.org.
jason bermas
And Barbara, we're in a final short segment with you here.
What is your advice to everybody out there listening?
What should they do to protect their children?
barbara fisher
They've got to become educated about vaccines.
They can't just blindly trust their doctor, unfortunately.
They need to understand vaccines have toxic components in addition to mercury, aluminum, phenoloxyethanol, formaldehyde.
There are many, many vaccines that are recommended that have not been properly tested pre-licensure because the standards have become so lax at the federal level and because these companies are really having a free hand in getting these vaccines produced and licensed and then recommended for use by all children.
You've got to become an educated healthcare consumer and that means becoming educated about vaccination before you take your child in for a shot.
jason bermas
And how can people support you and your organization?
barbara fisher
Well, we are really trying to raise money for the Stand Up, Be Counted campaign so we can mount a national education campaign to counteract the campaign by pharma and industry, I mean by the pharmaceutical companies and the medical organizations and government that are trying to say these vaccines are totally safe and effective.
Don't worry about it, just do what we say.
So they can go to StandUpBeCounted.org and make a donation.
We've got DVDs we can send them, we've got bumper stickers that says, no forced vaccination, not in America.
You know, that is our mantra now.
We should not be forcing this country to take a pharmaceutical product like a vaccine without our voluntary informed consent.
jason bermas
And what do you think the best tools are?
What are the best books and videos on the subject that are out there?
barbara fisher
Oh gosh, there are so many on our website at nbic.org.
We list some of them.
We've got links to all sorts of other organizations, too, that offer information.
I mean, there are so many now that it's difficult to pick them.
So I would just, you know, I do believe in the University of Google.
I think that you can get some fantastic information on the website.
And you need to become educated, and we have the ability now with the internet to be able to get information we never could before.
You can do medical research on the internet and get medical studies that you would have had to go into a medical library, like I had to do in the 80s in order to write the book I wrote, DPT A Shot in the Dark, in 1985.
You can become your own I'm with you.
jason bermas
I also believe in the University of Google and Yahoo and, you know, all these different sites and tools.
Obviously, you have to weave through the information, but it's never been at our fingertips like it has before.
Literally, CDC papers are out there.
I mean, there's just so much great stuff.
And it's also easier to reach out to your family and friends through email.
It's so easy to embed a seven minute YouTube video where parents are being threatened with jail time if they don't vaccinate their kids.
I mean, it's just so easy to share this information if you're motivated to do so.
barbara fisher
Yes, indeed.
Become an educated consumer.
That is what we need.
We can't be afraid of the truth about vaccination.
It's been hidden from us for too long.
We have to embrace it, and we then have to put pressure on our politicians and on our health officials to change it so that we can minimize vaccine injury.
jason bermas
You know, one of my big things is that I explain to people, unfortunately, we live in this consumer-obsessed society where we're more apt to take Advice from a celebrity than a medical expert or a scientist or a physicist on various issues We always want you know the person that's been on television and that's why I think it was so important that Jenny McCarthy did what she did and Wrote that book and went on Oprah and said the vaccines aren't good and she continues to march on Washington with Jim
Carrey another superstar Don't you don't you feel we should harness that power?
barbara fisher
Well, you know, it's interesting because, you know, in the last quarter century, I've debated doctors five times on the Today Show.
I've been on CNN.
I mean, this issue has been debated and has been on television and radio, etc., in the last 35 years.
But it wasn't until a really well-known celebrity, like Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey, stepped up and made this issue something that was acceptable to talk about.
Well, I don't know if it's still very politically correct, but at least they stepped up to the plate and got the information out there, and I congratulate them for that.
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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Remember, the Austin Governor's Mansion, arson that is now politically motivated, folks.
Politically motivated, and from what I understand, They're saying it is a white male in his 20s, somewhere around six feet tall, apparently athletic, climbed the fence through some kind of fireball or something over the thing, and they're saying they have a video.
They haven't released it.
Somehow, they still haven't been able to pinpoint who this is, and a week or so back, we had someone on the program who had worked security inside the governor's mansion on the Alex Jones program, and he rejoins us today.
Uh, his name is Kevin Titus.
Uh, Kevin, thank you for joining us.
unidentified
What's up, brother?
jason bermas
Why don't you recap what you told Alex, uh, a little over a week ago?
unidentified
Well, basically, uh, I had called in, um, cause I kind of thought the whole deal was suspicious and I was, you know, was listening to y'all's program and, uh, figured I'd called in.
So I basically called in and went over how I thought it was odd that, you know, arson You know, there was an arson investigation going on.
When I first heard about the incident, I thought it would have been, you know, something related to the construction, maybe.
And, uh, when I, when I heard arson on the media, I just kind of, something didn't seem right, you know?
So I called you guys and, uh, and basically what happened was, uh, I was at work yesterday and, uh, ATS, agent and I want to say it was somebody with the fire marshal's office they showed up to my work and they just they wanted to interview me and I guess they were talking to a couple other people.
And why did they say they wanted to interview you?
It was almost as if they were like kind of like placing me there they were asking me questions like it was like almost like a you know the TV episodes like where were you your where's your alibi this and that and I'm You know, in my mind, I'm like, I don't have an alibi, because for one thing, I don't know anything.
So how can I tell these people?
You know what I mean?
It's like, doesn't make any sense.
jason bermas
Yeah, I'm not even sure what day it started.
I want to say, wasn't it over the weekend?
Saturday or Sunday?
unidentified
Yeah, I think they said it was like 2 a.m. or something, 2 or 3 Sunday night.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think that was about two or three weeks ago.
But, uh, it was just, man, I just, These people are insane and we know they won't stop at anything and it's just funny You know, I mean I fit the description of this guy too.
jason bermas
I'm about six foot tall You know their weight range that they did but I mean how many other people well I would say about you know, 25 people 25% of the people out in Austin fit that description All she has to do is be a male and of average stature and you're in on that You're in on that description.
It just it boggles my mind after going down there to cover it Exactly, and the media is saying that the security system was broken.
unidentified
Now, the particular agency that I've worked with, they handed over that security system a while back to another agency.
I'm not, you know, sure on the specifics of that because I'm just, you know, I'm like low-level.
I go fix things that break, you know what I mean?
And it's just, you know, they're asking me all these weird questions and just, you know, it was really kind of, you know, Kind of offended me, you know, a lot of things.
It was like defamation of character.
jason bermas
Absolutely. You said that they actually went to your...
unidentified
I was going to have all my co-workers over there thinking that I'm some, you know, nut job or something.
And then I come home and kind of wanted to see if my neighbor had heard anything.
Because, you know, I've heard on here how I've heard from several different people, you know, on Alex Jones Show, how the eight, how different, you know, ABC agencies they go.
Do like knocking talks and try to talk to neighbors and this and that and they were asking my neighbor.
They actually came and questioned my neighbor and was asking my neighbor questions about me and this and that and I just thought that was really messed up.
jason bermas
What did your neighbor have to say to that?
unidentified
I wanted to come on here for just to make a statement, you know, let it be known.
Everybody who knows me knows, you know, I would never do anything as idiotic or, you know, Stupid as that, you know?
What benefit would I have?
You know what I mean?
Key Bono.
Who stands to gain?
jason bermas
Exactly. How do they even know that?
unidentified
You know what I mean?
jason bermas
Exactly. Well, you know what?
If they've got all this evidence, I think it's time to put it out into the public.
Let's see these security videos.
I mean, it's more than suspicious that they said that they made the phone call to the fire department when they didn't, when it was a bystander, when the fire was very, very low.
He makes the call.
unidentified
15 minutes later.
jason bermas
Yeah, well, 15 minutes later, the fire department gets there, but DHS still isn't even there.
They're not there 15 minutes later.
They're there 25 minutes later.
These are the guys that are in the media saying that they made the call.
No, they didn't.
They were nowhere to be found.
unidentified
I find it very hard to believe that that security system would have been down because when we were working on it, if anything happened to that security system, if it didn't get fixed that day, you know, it was like we were in trouble.
You know what I mean?
jason bermas
And I'm sure you still had somebody on the scene.
You know, if the security system wasn't there, you had guards, right?
unidentified
The normal guards walking around like they normally.
jason bermas
Yeah, the whole thing stinks to high hell.
unidentified
Big time.
And I'm really, I mean, I'm kind of freaked out about it, you know, knowing what I know about, you know, the things going on in this government and this and that.
I mean, they're just...
I wouldn't put anything past them at this point.
jason bermas
Well, I think it gives them the opportunity to put out the white al-Qaeda myth a little bit more, or say that they're working with anarchists now or anti-globalists.
They'll try to pin us into this group, militia members, all these things that might have a negative connotation to the public.
unidentified
And I mean me, I'm a musician, you know what I mean?
I like DJ downtown every now and then, you know what I mean?
It's ridiculous that I could even be pigeonholed into a group that would firebomb the mansion, you know what I mean?
Just because I don't agree with the forced vaccination of Gardasil to the children in Texas doesn't mean, you know what I mean?
jason bermas
No, absolutely, just because you have a brain and you're a thinking person.
You know, it doesn't mean that you should be a suspect in arson, a serious crime.
unidentified
Exactly. I mean, really, it kind of makes me want to get a lawyer just for the, you know, can I, I mean, or is that their job?
Is that all they do is defame people's character?
You know what I mean?
jason bermas
It seems to be a recurring theme with these sort of jackboots.
You know, they're more they're more motivated to, quote unquote, get a win than actually solving the crime.
You know, as long as they prosecute somebody and put them in jail, it's a win for them.
And they're not really concerned with the general populace.
And then, like I said, the thing stinks to high hell.
There's there are just.
cameras everywhere folks and not just the rotating cameras the ones that are planted highly equipped cameras yeah i mean this this is a c cctv uh dream I mean, they're up in the trees.
You can barely see some of the little white cameras.
And then you have the ball cams that rotate around.
Now they're admitting finally that they have video.
You know, they're putting...
The weird thing about the description to me is they said that he was either wearing khakis or jeans.
I can usually tell the difference between khaki pants and jeans.
unidentified
Exactly. I mean, why don't they just show the video?
jason bermas
That's right.
I don't know why that video's not out yet.
And I don't know why this is quote-unquote politically motivated.
Maybe there's something in the video.
Maybe the guy's running down the street with a flag or something before he firebombs it.
unidentified
I got a tattoo on my arm.
Maybe they're trying to superimpose that on him with some photoshop.
jason bermas
A little after effects.
unidentified
Absolute insanity.
jason bermas
You can't put anything past these people because they've been caught in the past setting other people up.
I mean, just look at the railroad job that McVeigh got.
Yeah, was he involved in the Oklahoma City bombing?
You bet he was.
Was he the only guy involved?
No way.
But was he demonized into being the only guy?
Yes. I mean, this guy was sending letters home saying that he was actually part of a covert military program and he'd been recruited for army intelligence to his sister.
Everybody disregards that.
And then you find out that the Ryder truck that was used Uh, it's picture was taken at a military facility in Oklahoma just before the attacks.
You find out they took all, they took all of the security cameras so people couldn't see quote-unquote John Doe number two, and they took bombs out of the building on camera.
The bomb squad took bombs out of the building on camera.
Uh, Keating, who was the governor at the time, got on television, said it was a sophisticated group that they had defused, uh, They do, and what's ironic about this whole thing is there's like,
unidentified
you know, my buddy's up at work, you know, I mean, I listen to InfoWars and every now and then, you know, when I'm riding around in my work truck or whatever, and so I kind of, you know, they kind of mess with me a little bit, like, oh, he's a conspiracy theorist, this and that.
Everybody was kind of joking about that, like, oh man, Kevin, they're gonna try to, like, do this and that, and it was just like a ha-ha, kind of laughing, you know, joking type thing.
jason bermas
It's funny until it comes to fruition.
unidentified
Asking my neighbors questions about me, it's just like...
jason bermas
People need to understand, this is not a game, these are people's lives.
unidentified
It's not a game, I mean, I know first hand, this is not a game, you know what I mean?
I mean, these people, I mean, I don't know what's the thing, because, I mean, I ain't never done it.
I mean, I have no criminal history or anything like that.
I mean, these people are trying to pigeonhole me as some terrorist now.
I mean, that's the vibe I got.
jason bermas
No, I guarantee that's what they were trying to do.
You know, they're trying to intimidate you into some kind of wayward confession.
And then when you didn't budge, they went to your neighbors and they're probably staking out your home and tapping your phone as we speak.
I mean, they'll probably run surveillance on you for at least another couple of weeks.
Uh, until they put out the next asinine theory that, you know, God knows what, but you know what?
We've got a lot of local Texas listeners.
It's time to call up the DHS and demand that they put this video out.
You know, they're saying they've got somebody on tape.
Put the video out.
Put it out.
Let's see what happened there.
I want to see what happened there.
Let's see what other lies we can uncover with their own footage, Kevin.
unidentified
We must hide the video from the comrades.
That's what it is, man.
jason bermas
Alright Kevin, I thank you for stopping in.
Is there anything else you want to say in closing?
unidentified
Oh man, I just want to let it be known.
Everybody who knows me knows the truth.
I just wanted to make a statement in case these people do try to do anything insane.
jason bermas
Alright man, our prayers are with you and I thank you for joining us.
It's the Alex Jones program, folks.
Well, there you have it.
Remember, the governor's mansion, you know, first they're not sure it looks accidental.
Then it's arson.
Then they're saying that the DHS isn't even there.
Then the DHS are the ones that called the fire department, but they weren't on the scene.
Then we find out that, no, it was actually a bystander who called the fire department.
We interviewed him.
I believe that's up on InfoWars or JonesReport.com.
Been up there for a couple weeks.
He said that when the fire department got there was 10 or 15 minutes later It took him a while and that the police still had not arrived until after the fire trucks had got there then Recently they decided that it was politically motivated.
They said they had a videotape of the assailant giving about the most general Description of a human being you could possibly give you know five nine to six foot white athletic or skinny And that's it.
Wearing jeans or khakis.
I don't understand how you can't tell the difference between jeans or khakis.
Not that that would really matter, I guess.
Since most guys who own a pair of jeans also own a pair of khakis.
At least I do.
You know, I got my khaki shorts on right now.
But this is the new freedom.
You know?
They'll go and harass somebody like him because he comes on the Alex Jones show and says that he's worked security in that building and the thing doesn't add up.
That that security system being down is ultra suspicious and even if it was down there should have been guards on the scene That's that fire shouldn't have went down the way it did there's something fishy there big time big time And that's why we're gonna keep covering here over at InfoWars.com You know I wish I had some new news on On the secession of Oklahoma Now,
I don't know where it's going with that, but we read the bill yesterday, and the resolution passed 92-3 from Representative Charles Key, a Republican, out in Oklahoma, basically declaring states' rights.
You know, bringing it back.
Remember, folks, we're not a democracy.
We're a constitutional republic made up of 50 states, okay?
States have power.
The federales don't have all the power.
That's why there are states' rights, so we can challenge the federales when they become too corrupt.
Which they have been.
They've become out-of-control corrupt.
Where they try to fearmonger people into vaccinations.
Where they try to fearmonger people into accepting the end of posicomentatus.
Okay? Much like is going on in Denver right now.
Just look at the videos, people.
It's on loosechange911.com and hopefully they're going to be posting it over at Prison Planet and InfoWars shortly.
But we got three videos up there.
Urban warfare training.
Going on right now in Denver, Colorado.
Black helicopters, black uniforms, detention centers, zero accountability, and propaganda drops.
Let's not forget the all-important propaganda drops.
I think I'm going to take a few phone calls before we get to our next guest at one o'clock, Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com, but we're going to have an hour of some financial news for you.
Keep up on that and then at two o'clock Michael Markovitch the preacher down in Philadelphia Preaching outside of Liberty Bell, and he's arrested for it.
I I think we have let's let's bring that story up Let's let's preview a little Michael Markovitch because you know we need more free speech zones in this country You know free speech zones, which are the exact opposite see I love the language.
It's so 1984 now Yeah, free speech zones.
Hey, guess what?
The country's a free speech zone.
Did you know?
Did you, uh...
Did you find that out?
Yeah? First Amendment?
Constitution? No?
Nobody knows about that?
Well, people don't know what the amendments to the Constitution are.
They don't understand what free speech is anymore.
Makes me sick.
Makes me ill.
I'll tell you what's not free speech.
A pen.
Where they put you 20, you know, 20 miles away from the actual site, or 20 blocks away, or 5 blocks away, or 2 blocks away.
Who cares?
They're fencing you off so that your voice can't be heard.
I mean, if your free speech zone is you talking to a tree, what's gonna get done?
You know?
You're out there to affect change.
You're out there to awaken other Americans.
That's what this country's about.
You know, that's why I'm disgusted When people get arrested for quote-unquote peddling, when they are well within their First Amendment rights to give away, let me say it again, give away DVDs and other material.
They're not asking for any money.
It's not peddling.
It's literally what the civil rights movement did to be successful.
They went out on the street, they papered and pamphleted the hell out of the place, and they gained support.
That's when you know we're threatening these guys.
When they they realize that they can't win when they play by the rules, so they have to break them and They break them all right.
They break them again and again and again and again and again And they're going to continue to break those rules if we allow them to It's the Alex Jones show the websites are infowars.com and prisonplanet.com.
I'm Jason Burmess you want to get at me?
It's myspace.com slash Jason Burmess.
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unidentified
Hi, Jason.
Nice to talk to you.
Sure. I wanted to commend Charles Keyes for introducing that legislation in Oklahoma.
He's also the person that I mean, this guy's a true American hero, absolutely.
jason bermas
You know, I read the bill yesterday, and I could swear to God that there was a clause in there about seceding.
I've got a stack in front of me today.
unidentified
I think it says cease and desist on any activities that are unconstitutional, but I mean it's just saying that the government has stepped back its bounds and it's trying to say it has to step back, I believe.
But anyway, that's all I wanted to say.
jason bermas
Alright, thanks man.
I appreciate the call.
Alright, let's pop to the next caller.
Let's go to Chris in Arizona.
Chris, are you there?
unidentified
Uh, yeah, hello.
jason bermas
What's on your mind, Chris?
unidentified
Um, well, I was, uh...
Alex had the General Stubblebind on his show a couple of weeks ago.
Sure. And I was watching this thing called Crazy Rulers of the World where they talk about men who stare at goats and stuff like that.
jason bermas
Yeah, I've seen the documentary.
It's actually a three-part documentary.
The first has been opted for a movie, the one you saw.
Yeah. The Men Who Stare at Goats and the First Earth Battalion.
And Stubblebind was part of this program where they would try to use mind powers Yeah, and they said there was one guy who did it, but he did damage to his own heart by doing it or something.
unidentified
And then they were showing this other guy who was able to do it with his hamster or whatever.
It all seemed a little weird to me.
The whole series had to do with psyops, basically.
I believe the second part was about blasting loud music and stuff.
jason bermas
What it was about was the prisoners at Gitmo, and they were actually pumping in Barney music while they were blinded all day and sensory deprivation.
All they could hear all day is, I love you, you love me, we're a happy family on a continuous loop.
unidentified
Yeah, correct.
And they also did the Sesame Street music, and then they did a couple Metallica songs.
jason bermas
Yeah, absolutely bizarre stuff.
I've gotta jump.
This is the Alex Jones Show, folks.
We've got Bob Chapman coming up.
I wish we could've stayed with that caller a little longer, because I really do like that documentary series, Crazy Rulers of the World.
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We'll be back after this.
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Alright, folks, we are back.
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And right now we are joined by the internationalforecaster.com's own Bob Chapman.
How are you today, Bob?
bob chapman
Well, pretty good.
Pretty good.
jason bermas
So, I mean, he joins us every once in a while to give us some forecasting on the economy.
The economy's still in the pits.
I mean, I saw gas prices last night.
They continue to rise.
People are telling me it's tougher to get jobs.
I just read a headline out of CNN that says that a third of the CEOs out there are going to start cutting workers almost immediately.
And it looks like we're in for some pretty rough times.
bob chapman
Well, that figure was up from 22% in April to make it even worse.
But these are superficial numbers.
uh... end result things uh...
going on and going on in the bowels of the monetary financial and economic world are far worse things first of all the credit crisis is nowhere near over if at best it might be fifteen percent over only because the every reserve in the european central bank and others are supplying Anywhere between 500 billion and a trillion dollars a month in short-term financing,
mostly to banks and financial firms who, if they didn't have that money, would not be in business.
And they, of course, take part of that money and speculate with it, and the rest of it they take and they lend to other speculators.
So we have a The world that is being financed by the Fed and the ECB, so people can speculate.
And when you speculate, you don't really create anything except gains and losses.
And the Fed, if you noticed this morning, our Treasury Secretary said that the Fed should have more power to regulate what goes on in Wall Street.
Well, number one, the Fed is the problem.
Wall Street is part of the problem.
And it's like putting the wolf in charge of the, or the fox in charge of the chicken coop.
What they're trying to do is consolidate the financial industries.
That includes all of them.
And when they consolidate them, it'll be a form of nationalization.
So if What's left of the financial industry can't make it, which in all probability will happen eventually with deflation when it comes.
Then they will have a handful of banks, a handful of brokerage houses, a handful of insurance companies, and they'll all be nationalized.
And this is what they're after because this is the format for corporatist fascism.
And that's what we have in America today.
jason bermas
Will we see things like the Nasdaq merging with...
Will we see Wall Street merge as well?
I mean, will we see just one place to trade?
Is that what you're saying?
bob chapman
Eventually, yes.
The weaker firms, even those, some of whom, like Lehman, is a shareholder in the Fed Reserve, may be split up because they just can't make it.
But most of the middle size and little firms will be gobbled up.
Yes, they'll try eventually to merge all the exchanges and they'll delist all of the smaller companies so that they can't raise capital in the equity market and that they have to go to banks to do that.
And the same thing is going to happen to the banking system as well as the insurance companies.
And that also will limit the ability of corporations to raise money because they will have to raise money Through banks, some of it through equity, but mostly through banks.
So the banks, the government, will control the corporations.
And that's how it's going to end up.
This is the dream of Benito Mussolini.
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It's absolute fascism, and we'll be back after this with Bob Chapman of theinternationalforecaster.com, infowars.com, prisonplanet.com.
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All right, folks, we're back.
It's the Alex Jones Show, and we're gonna be playing a clip of the conspiracy files a little bit later after Bob Chapman.
Basically, the number seven documentary is coming out.
It's gonna be a total hit piece.
Get ready for it.
It'll probably coincide with the same time that the actual report comes out.
This is on July 6th, so I would say...
Look for that NIST report the week of July 6. I really would say that.
I can't imagine them not doing that, but maybe I'm wrong.
All right, let's go back to Bob Chapman of TheInternationalForecaster.com.
You just discussed how they really are trying to bring in a fascist system where there's one place to trade, there's one banking system.
What will this mean for the American people?
Will they be able to get their money out of the banks when this happens?
They won't, right?
They're just going to lose all of their All of their, you know, I guess, quote-unquote, hard assets, their paper assets.
bob chapman
Well, it's hard to say how that'll work out, because right now, the FDIC, which is the government entity that is financed by banking, that provides the funds when banks go under, I think it has $52 billion, and that is probably not even enough to bail out one medium-sized bank.
And government is talking about 150 to 300 banks going under over the next three years.
Now, I, and I've called back 35 experts who worked during the 80s and 90s for the FDIC and asked them to come back to work because they're going to need them because of their experience.
And so I think there's going to be a lot of mergers and They know the banks that have problems because, you know, they see their numbers all the time.
And I think there'll be a lot of mergers.
And, you know, Bank A might merge with Bank B, and Bank B might get gobbled up by Bank C. And that sort of thing.
It is not in their interest to allow banks to go under and people not to get paid.
It's extremely important to all you listeners That you do not have more than $100,000 in any one bank account because beyond that, you're not insured.
So remember that.
And I think what will happen is that Congress will just allocate more money to bail out more banks as they go along.
And of course, what that will do is create more debt for the American public.
And that's not good.
jason bermas
And as they print the money out of nowhere.
bob chapman
Well, the government will allocate it, and they will pay interest on the debt that's issued to be able to finance that.
The people who essentially create money out of thin air is the Federal Reserve, which is a privately owned entity, and I wrote a piece on it this morning.
The Federal Reserve does not use the same kind of accounting system that the corporate America does, or other banks do.
They have their own Federal Reserve operating manual.
And one of the reporters under the Freedom of Information Act asked for a copy because they wouldn't give them one.
And they gave it to him.
It was so badly redacted that he couldn't make any sense out of it.
And so they're trying to hide what they're doing, but essentially what they're doing at the Fed is they're taking in what we call toxic waste.
toxic garbage which are bonds which consist of mortgages or other kinds of loans, or debt.
And they're worth probably on average around 40 cents on the dollar.
And this private firm, BlackRock, is supposedly trying to peddle the garbage that they're collecting.
And I don't think there's any effort at all, because the Fed never has to mark their books to the market.
And this is extraordinarily important.
Under FASB rules, which is the International Accounting Agency, we'll call it, companies have to, if they have securities, they have to mark them to the market.
In other words, on June 30th, when they finish the second quarter, And they tell everybody what they're worth, the pluses and the minuses.
They have to go to the market, and they have to find out what their security's worth.
The Fed doesn't have to do that.
The Fed can carry that on the books indefinitely in that suspended state.
So the Fed can just keep on printing, if you may, or creating money as long as it wants.
It's a totally beyond-belief fiat system.
And it is going to collapse.
All you have to do is live long enough to see it.
And I figure, probably about three years down the line, I've read a couple of people who are in the industry, so to speak, which I've been in for 50 years, as opposed to being a writer, of the financial industry.
And they're starting to say the same things that I've been saying for the last three or four years.
They're catching up.
And of course, they're ostracized for it.
But they're speaking up.
And we had the Royal Bank of Scotland two days ago say that we're headed for very, very difficult times.
And then one of the hedge fund managers, who manages $30 billion, said the same thing.
And they both thought that the problems were going to get worse quicker.
They may.
But I've learned in 50 years of being in these situations that you've got to be patient.
Things don't happen as quickly as you think they will.
But it's irrespective.
It's all going to happen.
jason bermas
You mentioned that the Federal Reserve was private.
Can you just lay out how the board members of the Federal Reserve are actually chosen, what their terms are, and how we pick the Fed chair?
bob chapman
Well, the Fed chair is nominated By the Federal Open Market Committee, which is, in turn, approved by Congress.
I don't know whether it's...
The appointee is made by the presidential administration.
And Congress says, yeah, that's okay.
Because Congress doesn't argue, and the reason that they don't is that they are the recipient of large amounts of money from the financial community, so they can get re-elected.
And what they don't use in their election, they get to keep.
So, it's a payoff system, just like lobbying is.
And so, he's appointed, he's chosen from within.
The people who work in the different Federal Reserve Banks are chosen and appointed from within.
It's all run by the shareholders who are banks.
And the biggest shareholders, JPMorgan Chase, There's Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, and a myriad of others.
But that group there controls probably about 55-60% of the votes.
And so when you saw this Mickey Mouse Bear Stearns assassination a couple of months ago, and that's really what it was, it was an effort by the Fed to take Bear Stearns out, and they had all kinds of excuses for doing so.
But the excuses didn't wash, and the reason why is, two days after they declared the deal, which was a $30 billion deal, and the $30 billion was to collect money to offset the values, purportedly, of their bonds, which were toxic garbage, which the Fed took in.
Morgan gave the Fed a billion dollars to cover losses.
Of course, the losses are going to be phenomenal.
But the whole thing is contrived.
But getting back to Bear Stearns, they were taken out because they weren't one of the group, and there were certain parts of Bear Stearns that JPMorgan Chase wanted, and that's why they were taken down.
And there have been a couple of other writers on Wall Street who have come up with the same conclusion, but not many.
And the reason why is they're afraid They'll get fired from their jobs or be ostracized within their community.
And people like me who write that stuff, just like Alex, are targets of the government, and they do what they can to make our lives miserable.
But the Fed is controlled by the Federal Open Market Committee, and all of those people are appointed and belong to the major banks who own the Fed Reserve.
And it is an absolutely rotten system.
It is arch-criminalism.
And it's got to be done away with and given back to the U.S. Treasury.
This has got to be stopped.
Every panic that we've had since 1913 has been planned and executed by the Federal Reserve in behalf of the banking and Wall Street community.
And that's a fact.
jason bermas
So how do we defeat it?
How do we move on from the Federal Reserve into a separate type of monetary system?
bob chapman
I think the only way is you've got, of course, to get Congress to do something about it.
And with the people we have in Congress now, that's not going to happen.
And that's why I've told my subscribers, with the exception of Ron Paul, vote everybody out of office.
And maybe we might have a shot at something.
Otherwise, they're just going to keep doing what they're doing, and they're going to control us.
And with the laws they have in the books now that have been put on in the last seven years, they can do anything to anybody anytime they want.
and So if we're not able to defeat this system, how is it that The average American listening to this broadcast can protect themselves from the coming financial crisis.
Well, the first thing I always tell people is get rid of your credit card revolving debt and try to be as clean of debt as you can.
And then you should make plans.
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And once you've got that in place, if you have more money, you can think of buying gold and silver coins and gold and silver shares if you like to speculate.
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jason bermas
I am Jason Burma sitting in.
With us is Bob Chapman of the InternationalForecaster.com, and you've given some great advice.
You've told people don't have more than $100,000 in one bank account at any given time.
bob chapman
Well, I think that what they have to do is spend their spare time learning more about what is causing all this and passing that information on to other people.
Alex and I do it on the air, but it's up to you out there to pick up the information and give it to other people.
And granted, you know, most people don't want to hear it.
I know there's something wrong, they say, but I don't want to know.
But that's okay.
I've been involved in the exposure of this for almost 50 years.
And I feel that if one person out of a hundred listens, then I've accomplished something.
And so that's the attitude you have to take.
And you also have to work on the elected representatives, keep on Sending them short emails like, uh, I am in disagreement with Bill such and such and, uh, I wish you would vote against it.
And just as simple as that.
You don't have to go into detail because in the congressional offices they have two piles for each bill.
And, uh, one is yes and the other is no.
And, uh, the letter you'll get back, uh, from the Congressman or Senator's office will, uh, read some flowering thing about, uh, That particular bill and what the congressperson has done previously.
But still, you make your influence known and you use it.
Within the system, that's all you can do.
It would be nice to say that you could vote for and elect people who would listen and do what the constituents wanted.
That can happen in some cases.
And hopefully in more cases than it has in the past.
Those are the things you can do working within the system.
jason bermas
Well, I feel if we want those things to happen...
bob chapman
It's an educational process.
jason bermas
Yeah, we have to run.
If we want those things to happen, we have to become the government.
We have to become the media.
You know, I had a caller on yesterday saying, you know, I've given all this information to my local senators, my congressmen, the city council, and they look at it, but they just kind of brush me off.
And I'm like, well, then it's time to say, you know, I'm done giving you information.
I'm now going to take your job.
And run against these people and interject real issues.
bob chapman
And that is a good comeuppance to them for not listening.
And, you know, I've seen activists who I thought would never win an election and did, simply because of persistence.
And you can't give up.
You have to be persistent.
You have to believe what you're doing.
is a profitable thing for your society as well as yourself.
And you can't leave it up to Alex and people like Alex on other programs and writers like myself to do it for you.
We'll give you the information.
You've got to carry it.
You've got to, you know, have that message and you have to disperse it.
Absolutely. And you've got to remember It's not a happy message because it's the truth.
And the truth is sometimes a very hard sell.
But you gotta keep on hammering and picking off little things that you see which will prove your point.
And eventually people come around.
And the people in your own family are the most difficult to convince.
jason bermas
Yeah, often that is the case.
But I really think that it's about convincing yourself That you can have an effect, that you can be powerful, that you have great power within and you can expand on that.
So many people give me this defeatist attitude of I can't change this and I can't do that.
You know I was in a bar last weekend and someone saw my little Info Wars wristband and he asked me if I was military.
I told him I wasn't and he asked me what the bracelet was about and I explained it to him.
I had Building 7 on my phone so I showed him that.
And I got him thinking for sure and I showed him some other things and he goes, you know, you're probably 100% right.
And this guy was ex-military.
He had just been overseas in Japan recently, stationed there.
And he's like, but I can't do anything about it.
And they instill that in you.
I mean, from from television to radio to your profession, they always try to make you feel insignificant.
They always try to demoralize you so you won't step up.
And I think that's that's the big thing.
Bob, that we need to get over that and realize, no, you know, we can make a difference.
We can create change.
bob chapman
Well, and also, those who say what you just said, you say to them, well, that's okay.
Why don't you just call up the Department of Home Security and ask them which internment camp you're going to be sent to?
jason bermas
Exactly. Bob, shoot out the websites quick.
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All right, thank you.
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Alright folks, we're back.
It's the Alex Jones Show.
Uh, before we play this BBC Conspiracy Files clip, it's a three-minute trailer.
It makes it look like they may be sympathetic to us, but I guarantee they will not be.
It will be a total and complete hit piece.
I spent some time, uh, with the guy who was interviewing Dylan.
Quite a bit of time, actually.
Uh, when we were out in, uh, I want to say...
Yeah, it was in Denver.
It was the first screening at Denver is where they interviewed Dylan.
And, uh, I just want to let people know that this is not going to be, uh, This isn't going to be any way positive for us.
They're going to wrap it up at the end and say, it's definitely fire, you watch.
You know, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.
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unidentified
Oh, my God!
Go! Go!
Go! Come on!
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Building 7 is the smoking gun of 9-11.
It is the most obvious example of controlled demolition.
jason bermas
It's not real.
unidentified
The materials and the technologies just aren't there.
If they were, I'd know.
In the building, I heard explosions.
Outside the building, I heard explosions.
I saw this building, which had never been hit by a plane, come crashing straight down.
For it to fall symmetrically and completely and rapidly was quite astounding.
Could one use a controlled demolition on any building?
Sure. Did it happen to WTC7 on 9-11?
No, they did not.
No, they did not.
As far as I know, that's the first time it's happened in architectural history.
A steel high-rise building has collapsed simply because of damage and fire.
jason bermas
You can hear the building creak.
unidentified
You can hear things fall.
You can hear the fire burning.
And you can hear the destruction way above it.
No steel-framed high-rise building has ever collapsed due to fire.
You know, you have to look at what was inside Building 7. You had the largest Secret Service field office outside of Washington, D.C. You had the largest CIA field office.
You had a number of government agencies inside the building.
And I think we're just about the last ones in this building right now.
I think you should leave.
Everybody else is gone.
I'm not sure how to do this.
The first explosion I heard when I was on the stairwell here.
Like a boom.
Like an explosion.
Jane, what more can you tell us about this collapse?
Details are very, very sketchy.
The entire half inch of the beam is gone.
Entirely dissolved.
Something happened to cause the steel to really thin and in some places to disappear entirely.
*music*
Building 7 is the first high-rise building in the world that has collapsed solely due to...
...
jason bermas
Well, there you go folks get ready July 6th That's gonna be coming to the BBC and I want to point out that Richard Clarke who some people for some reason love him in this movement Because he apologized before the 9-11 Commission.
I just want to let you know Richard Clarke.
You make me sick I don't like you a Lot of people in this movement don't like you and the ones that do wake up man This guy just got on a special and said World Trade Center 7 was not a controlled demolition He's a punk.
Okay? He doesn't deserve the time of day.
I don't care if he confirms that Cheney was in the P.O.C.
That's great.
Alright? We got other confirmation of that.
I don't care if he confirms continuity of government that day.
Okay? We got other people that confirm that.
He's a punk.
He's on camera saying that Building 7 isn't a controlled demolition.
unidentified
It is!
jason bermas
Okay? I'm sick of the people within the movement trying to say there's not enough evidence for it.
Are you kidding me?
Well, they've got Barry Jennings on there.
Barry Jennings, of course, is going to be in Fabled Enemies.
I'm anxious to see what he had to say to the BBC and what the BBC puts out there.
Obviously, Dylan was interviewed.
He's in the film.
And the last person you heard from was that Sondar gentleman who originally said to Popular Mechanics that up to 25% of the building was scooped out.
Scooped out!
It's a 47-story skyscraper.
Let's do the math.
That's 12 full stories plus scooped out of the building.
unidentified
It's bull.
jason bermas
Okay? That guy, that Sondar guy, he should stand before a military tribunal eventually.
He knows he's covering up the truth.
The guy before him though, I had never seen before, and he was talking about how some of the beam had simply disappeared.
You know?
They also have other government talking heads like the Lizot family.
The Lizot guy was like, I know about it.
I'll bet you would.
You and your family.
You bunch of criminals.
Alright, let's take some calls.
Let's go to Jim in Ohio.
Jim, are you there?
What's up, Jim?
unidentified
Hey, how are you doing today?
I just got a couple questions for you.
The last guy that was on, the question was, when the banks go bankrupt and you owe them debt, where does your debt go?
Does it get just erased?
jason bermas
I don't think so.
I think they're going to set up debtors' prisons.
They've been in the process for quite some time, and instead of a prison that you'll live in, you'll have to go work on weekends, kind of like community service.
unidentified
No kidding?
Yeah. And then the other question was, the movie The Condor, Flight of the Condor, with Robert Redford, in the last part of it they talk about food shortages and having what to do with all the people and everything.
And this movie was made like, what, 25 years ago.
jason bermas
Sure, it's way old.
Well, I mean, look, if you read, and I brought this document up yesterday again, about rebuilding America's defenses, the PNAC document that everybody talks about, the new Pearl Harbor and all that good stuff.
Still, in it, talks about using bioweapons, talks about using food as a weapon, talks about using weather weapons and mod weapons and creating earthquakes.
I mean, they've got it all planned out.
They've wrote dozens, if not hundreds of papers on the matter.
What they do is they have these think tanks wargame it out in a scenario, and they put all the scenarios out there, and I think one of the ones they're going to use is food against us.
I mean, it's very suspicious to me, and I played this on the show, A week and a half ago.
unidentified
In the last part of that, he comes out and says that very thing, and in that movie, the government wipes out his whole agency that is supposedly working for the government that knows the truth.
Yeah, well...
And then they go after him.
jason bermas
Yeah, it happens.
And, you know, a lot of people think that's just a movie, but our government is more corrupt than any movie could possibly tell.
Unfortunately, truth is much stranger than fiction.
I thank you for the call, Jim.
Let's jump to Tracy in Missouri.
Tracy, you're there.
unidentified
Hi, Jason.
Hello. Hello.
I was going to ask if you think that the situation going on in Denver goes against the posse comitatus.
jason bermas
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely violates posse comitatus.
Posse commentatus is the statute where the police and the military are separate, and right now the police and military are working together for a domestic takeover drill in unmarked helicopters in black uniforms.
So absolutely, that's exactly what's going on right now.
unidentified
I just wanted to point that out because I hadn't heard you say anything about it today, so I just wanted to point that out.
jason bermas
Absolutely. Thank you.
And they're prepping for this thing that's happening at the end of August, August 25th to August 28th.
If you want to see the videos, hopefully they're going to be posted over at PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.
But we've got them right now at LooseChange911.com.
And you can go check out these Apaches, these Blackhawks.
You can see the detention centers.
You can see everybody dressed up in their nice little black uniforms.
You can see the propaganda that they're actually dropping on the people, these orange glow sticks with American flags wrapped around them.
And military patches around them.
Very bizarre.
Very, very bizarre.
Let's jump to Steve in Washington.
Steve, are you?
Hi Dick.
Hi Jason.
unidentified
I'm doing good.
I was just listening to the gentleman prior to your Building 7 coming down.
And I agree.
I try to tell everybody I can that'll listen.
And most people don't want to listen.
They're too busy with their life.
jason bermas
What you really got to put down to them is that they're not going to be that busy.
They won't be concerned about their season tickets.
They won't be concerned about I agree.
And the thing is, you know, you can talk, talk, talk all day and, you know, people will brush you off.
I, again, find that the best tools are movies people don't read anymore.
And even when they read, they're very suspect on it.
I would say give.
I do that.
unidentified
I buy them.
I buy them in multiples, and I do that.
jason bermas
Well, even not buying them in multiples, get one copy.
Learn how to burn.
I mean, this is why I love what Mark does.
Oh, absolutely.
And my family was the first people that I went to, and you bet I got, Jason, come on, shut up, that's ridiculous.
Jason, you've got to be joking me.
Oh my god, you wouldn't believe the things that were said to me.
I remember my stepfather at one point saying to me, you know, I just don't want to see you go nuts and find a jar full of ears in your room.
And I'm like, what are you talking, a jar full of ears?
I'm like, Rick, this is the real Deal.
And he's come all the way around.
He's gotten his money out of banks.
He's starting into hard currency.
He knows 9-11 was an inside job.
He's done a full 180.
And did it happen overnight?
No. It took about five to six years.
And we just got to keep pressing and pressing and pressing.
And finally something will come out in the mainstream media or in their daily life that is going to flip the switch.
It flips the switch over and they're just like, oh my God.
This is the reality.
I thank you so much for your call, Steve, and keep pressing on.
You know, we need more info warriors like yourself.
Let's go to Mike in Tennessee.
Mike, are you with me?
unidentified
I'm with you.
The fellow was talking about paying off revolving debt and credit cards.
Since those are non-secured debt, meaning they can't come take your property, I would say paying off your home would probably be the most important thing.
Something that's got a lien function that they can apply towards it.
jason bermas
No, I'm with you.
And that's what I just said, is that if the banks come in and they go out of business, chances are they're the ones that actually own your house.
And then it'll be up to the Federal Reserve Banking System, you know, if they take in that debt, whether you get to keep your home or not.
So yeah, your house is probably the number one priority to pay off.
unidentified
Well, unless they go to your local registrar's office, they really can't even take your property.
But the fact is, is that Under the terms of your contract, as long as you don't default, as long as you pay that monthly note by the due date in full, your monthly payment to whoever that is, and I would send it to the original agreed-upon address, they still can't take your property as long as you're paying that note.
They might try to squeeze you and threaten you, but unless you've got corrupt local court systems like we do, and certainly where I live, they would do that against me in a heartbeat because I'm not the old boy network.
I'm burning disk and doing all these other things, which is making a stink around here.
But, you know, the bottom line is that secured debt, yes.
Unsecured debt, no, I wouldn't worry about it personally.
jason bermas
All right, man.
Thanks for the opinion.
Let's jump to another caller.
Let's go to Betty in North California.
Or North Carolina, I don't know.
Betty, are you there?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm here, Jason.
Hello again.
jason bermas
How are you doing?
unidentified
Oh, I'm doing good and I'm fired up, buddy.
I'm a 9-11 truther, and I believe that it was an inside job that building 7 came down.
jason bermas
Absolutely, and you just heard the little clip I played there.
And, you know, how do you feel when someone like the Lozow family, who is the head of Control Demolition Incorporated, who helped clean up Oklahoma City, who was contracted to clean up the World Trade Center, gets up there and says, there's no way it was a control demolition.
If it was, I'd know about it.
Bullshit! I gotta let you go, Betty.
I'm sorry.
You gotta watch the language on this show, folks.
She's a really sweet lady, and she's called several different times.
Alright, let's jump to Elliot in Ohio.
Elliot, are you with me?
Elliot, what's on your mind, man?
unidentified
You there?
jason bermas
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, like, uh...
I'm about to bring up just a side topic, but, uh...
I mean, Larry Silverstein came out and said, yeah, we pulled it, so...
I mean...
It's definitely controlled demolition.
We got the dude that owns the whole place saying, by the way, we blew it, I think.
jason bermas
But the debunkers just literally rewrite the language into saying that pull it means pull down the building.
When we had people call controlled demolition corporations and say, hey, could you let me know what the term pull it is?
And they're like, oh, that's when they're actually going to take down the building.
You know, it's an obvious term.
Exactly. Obvious term.
unidentified
Exactly, but perception is stronger than reality these days, you know?
jason bermas
Absolutely. Anything else you'd like to say?
unidentified
I got a question.
You know, I came in like earlier on the day, you're talking about vaccines and all that good stuff.
Yep. And I've read up on the information, you know, Merck's putting cancer in the polio vaccines, HPV vaccines are making little girls, you know, paralyzed and all that good stuff.
What about like a tetanus vaccination or all that good stuff?
Do you believe that all the vaccinations...
jason bermas
I'll tell you what, I don't trust any of the vaccinations at all, but I'm not going to say that they're all as bad as each other, okay?
I'm just saying I don't trust them when they openly put SV40 and other types of SV into vaccinations as a preservative.
I don't trust them when they're putting mercury in the vaccinations.
I don't trust them When they're doing these nationwide promotions for women to get vaccinated against HPV, which is kind of a joke.
It's kind of it's really a joke where I am in Oneonta because it's a big college town.
And, you know, all the local medical officials will tell you, you know, around 80 to 90 percent of the people that are there have HPV.
And it's it's really, you know, they say it causes cancer.
And even my even my my girl, she thinks She thinks the same thing.
She's like, oh, I'm so worried about this HPV thing.
I'm just like, it's all a scam.
So am I against every vaccination?
No. Would I take any of them at this point?
No. Does that answer your question?
unidentified
Yeah, man.
jason bermas
All right.
All right.
Thanks for the call, Elliot.
unidentified
All right.
jason bermas
Let's go to Derek in Montana.
What's up, Derek?
Hello. What's up, man?
unidentified
Hi, Jason.
I wanted to talk quickly about something that kind of relates to the thing I heard about.
The people being arrested for peddling when they were just getting...
jason bermas
What was that?
I missed the last part of that.
unidentified
Oh, you...
I wanted to talk about something.
The guys that were getting arrested for so-called peddling.
Yeah, yeah.
jason bermas
We Are Change Colorado gets arrested because they're handing out free DVDs, which is in accordance with the First Amendment of the Constitution.
unidentified
Yeah, there's...
Well, um...
I used to live in Patterson, New Jersey, right?
I just moved over to Montana.
And over there they installed a bunch of cameras.
All over the city recently.
All right, hold right there.
jason bermas
We're going to have your phone call on the other side of the Alex Jones Show.
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Thank you.
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It is a big idea.
A new world order.
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In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.
unidentified
It's known as the Builder Bird.
Could their objective be world domination?
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Build America's making great progress toward a world with carbon.
Most people have no idea.
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They're not after money.
unidentified
They have all the money they need.
They're after power.
That's their aphrodisiac.
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folks. It's the Alex Jones Show, and we are back.
We're taking your calls.
We just played the BBC special, Conspiracy Files, and we're going to be playing that again in the fourth hour on the TV.
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And I'm rocking my Yankees gear today, showing my New York pride.
And we've got a caller who used to live over in Paterson, New Jersey, discussing the fact that members of We Are Change Colorado were actually arrested and charged with peddling for handing out free DVDs when weeks prior they had talked to the police.
And guess what?
It was okay.
It was well within the law and the Constitution.
You want to elaborate a little bit, Derek?
unidentified
Yeah, well, what I was going to say is something that kind of ties into that subject.
About four years ago, there were these two guys in my city that started going downtown and setting up a little stand where they would give out free books.
They just had boxes and boxes of books.
And about two years later, they started installing cameras all over The whole city, all over downtown.
And then the next thing I know, a year after that, I'm down there one day downtown, and I'm picking up some books and talking to them, and these police show up.
Two policemen show up and tell them that they have to move.
Because they're asking them questions like, are you selling anything?
What exactly are you guys doing?
So they were trying to find some reason to get them to move.
And they kept saying, oh, you're obstructing the sidewalk traffic.
And they weren't.
And so they moved their stuff back even farther.
And then some lady from a shop, who owned a shop, said, oh, you guys can set up outside my store.
And before they could move, about six more cop cars showed up, and they swarmed out and arrested these two guys for giving out books.
And I wanted to ask you, what would the rationale behind that be?
What reasons can they detain people just for giving out some free books?
jason bermas
Their egos.
The fact that they think that they're serious, so that's it.
That's the only thing.
It's just this new cop ego that they're the law.
They decide what's constitutional.
They don't even know what the Constitution is, man.
I remember a couple years back I was walking down my street in upstate New York.
This is an Amish community, by the way, literally people in horse and buggy, a crime capital by no means whatsoever.
I had a cup of coffee in my hands walking down the main road, and the police pulled me over walking.
They're like, hey, you, what's your name?
I'm like, excuse me?
He's like, what's your name?
I'm like, sir, I mean, I have no reason to give you my name.
Is there a reason that you're pulling me over?
They literally got out of the car, started to go for their pepper spray.
They're like, you want us to arrest you?
unidentified
Sorry for the language, but they were threatening to arrest me just for that too.
So people on the street decided just to let it be.
jason bermas
Absolutely. And then I said, they said that they were doing an investigation and I said, okay.
And they're like, well, what's your name?
I'm like, my name is Jason.
And they're like, Jason what?
I'm like, are you looking for a Jason?
What's going on here?
I mean, how much more info do you need from me?
And eventually I gave them my full name, and they got back in their cars.
I almost let them take me downtown, but my girlfriend at the time would have had my head.
She was coming in to meet me.
But yeah, the only thing that gives them that power are their egos.
We'll take your calls later on, but right now we're gonna have Markovic come on.
And discuss how he was arrested for preaching, and convicted by the way, for preaching near the Liberty Bell on a sidewalk.
I guess free speech is gone in this country.
It's the Alex Jones Show.
unidentified
We'll see you next time.
Thank you for listening to GCN.
Be sure to visit GCNlive.com today.
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