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June 17, 2008 - Alex Jones Show

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unidentified		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
		I am not Alex Jones.
		I am Jason Burmess, and I'm going to be sitting in for the rest of the week.
		Big news obviously we're gonna be playing the Mark Dice clip over at Reagan.
		We're gonna play the first one as well We're gonna have Mark on in about 15 minutes, but if you listen to the show yesterday, I was talking about this prison attack Out in Afghanistan, and I said to everybody now look on Friday.
		They show you that a thousand militants have escaped from this prison And I said, on Monday, they report that the Taliban has a stronghold again in Afghanistan.
		Literally took them a weekend, I guess, to get much more of a stronghold than they had.
		Again, this is less than a thousand people.
		I mean, let's think about it.
		A thousand prisoners, they still only admitted about 400 Taliban.
		The numbers are ridiculous.
		Our military is much greater and stronger.
		So, I get off the air, and I believe there is a story over at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
		In fact, I'm going to Bring that story right up.
		It's just incredible, folks.
		They're now admitting, admitting that the U.S. gave the green light for the attack.
		They probably did more than just let it happen.
		Let's be honest.
		Let's be honest.
		I mean, it's just let's let's let's explain it again.
		If they were a real threat, they would be in places like Guantanamo Bay, which are totally horrific and torture people and small children and women and Rape them and I those pictures are out there.
		I'm sorry.
		Uh, you know It disturbs me a lot that all of this can be public.
		Okay, senators can literally come out of Of the Capitol building and say to the media what I saw was horrific.
		I'm embarrassed I'm appalled I'm shocked and this is the stuff we weren't allowed to see now what we did see What we did see was just unbelievable I mean, and it didn't even scratch the surface, guys. It didn't even scratch the surface.
		So again, let me recap it.
		Friday, prison attack.
		Taliban goes free.
		Monday, Taliban stronghold in Afghanistan again.
		Later Monday afternoon, the US allowed it to happen.
		They gave the green light.
		Let me say it again.
		They gave the green light.
		It's unbelievable.
unidentified		It's just unbelievable, folks.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		How many more times?
		Who's gonna bring this up?
		Everybody should be calling their local representatives and just go nuts about this.
		Our troops are gonna be there forever if what we do is capture people and then allow them to go free and then act like there's a conflict.
		Okay? 400 more Taliban members.
		Come on!
		Think about our military power.
		Think about what you've seen.
		Just publicly, what you've seen.
		It's, it's, it's beyond the pale.
		It's beyond the pale.
		And then we have the neocons that, uh, propagate this war.
		They're the big cheerleaders.
unidentified		Rah, rah, rah, rah, rah.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Let's kill all the Middle Easterns.
		Let's just kill everybody apparently.
		Like Michael Reagan.
		I watched a really disgusting clip where he said, uh, I guess these parents named their kid Hezbollah.
		Okay, which is tasteless, but whatever.
		You know, the kid didn't name himself Hezbollah, okay?
		It's not the kid's fault.
		And even then, it doesn't deserve death.
		He said, oh, well, we should just take a grenade and shove it right up its bottom and blow it up.
		Blow it up, babies!
		That's what Michael Reagan's about when he's not threatening 9-11 truthers.
		When he's not soliciting their murders.
		Oh, man.
		After the break, we're gonna play that first clip.
		And we're gonna have dice on at a quarter after.
		And hopefully we're going to be playing that second clip as well.
		See if I have that.
		I do have that.
		So we're going to be playing both clips.
		It's unbelievable.
		Is this the baby's bottom one?
unidentified		Oh, man.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Let's play this.
		It's already the break, folks.
		Remember, you can see all this stuff at InfoWars.com.
		It's the Alex Jones Show.
		I am Jason Bermas.
		We'll be back after this with Michael Reagan's disgusting comments and Mark Dice.
unidentified		We'll be back after this.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks, we are back.
		And I'm going to play this first Michael Reagan clip, and then I think we're going to play the second one right after where Dice is actually on.
		That's a bit longer, so we're not going to play the whole thing because we're going to have Dice on.
		At a quarter after.
		It's a power-packed show, folks.
		I got Paul Craig Roberts coming up later.
		We got We Are Change Vancouver and We Are Change LA also in the show.
		And we're going to go over this U.S. role in Afghan prison attack.
		Mainstream Press, www.presstv.ir.
		See, all this is out in the open.
		The Guardian reports about the prison attack.
		It's not big news yet in the United States because they haven't decided exactly how they're going to spin it.
		And then they spin it by saying Taliban has a stronghold.
		But, I digress.
		Let's get into some Reagan.
unidentified		Excuse me folks, I'm going to say this.
		We're going to find the people who are doing this, take them out, and shoot them.
		Really. Just find the people who are sending those letters to our troops to demoralize our troops and do what they're doing.
		You take them out, they are traitors to this country, and shoot them.
		You have a problem with that?
		Deal with it.
		But anybody who would do that doesn't deserve to live.
		You shoot them.
		You call them traitors, that's what they are, and you shoot them dead.
		I'll pay for the bullet.
		Mark Dice, the founder of the Resistance, which he calls a media watchdog group, says that the U.S. government was responsible for the September 11th terrorist attacks and that the armed forces should know it.
		People want the facts.
		The Marines are hungry for the truth.
		What got them there in Iraq?
		Why are they risking their lives?
		And we're going to help them understand that.
		So he's going to send letters.
		And the classified government documents that he says can prove the government's responsibility for the terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.
		And he's urging others to do the same.
		Now, Captain Pete Hegseth, Executive Director of Vets for Freedom, says, you know something?
		These are going to end up in the trash, or they're going to end up in the toilet, or they're going to end up on the firing range.
		How about you take Mark Dice out and put him in the middle of the firing range?
		Tie him to a bose, don't blindfold him, let it rip, and have some fun with Mark Dice.
		These people are just, folks, I'm telling you, outrageous.
		Now we know where the Ron Paul supporters went.
		Oh my god.
		That was a mean thing to say, Brett.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		The Ron Paul supporters.
		Unbelievable. You know, again, Ron Paul's for the Constitution, Ron Paul's for the Bill of Rights, and this sniveling little neocon, spoiled rich kid, adopted son of Ronald Reagan, never had to deal with anything real in his life, folks, everything was taken care of, never had to deal with any kind of consequence, is cracking jokes about the one man that tried to save this country after he tried to solicit the murder, the murder of you and me.
		That's right.
		I was an Alex Jones listener before I got involved in all this.
		Alex is really the one that woke me up.
		I mean, I had looked into 9-11.
		I had, you know, checked some of the things out.
		I had come around to at least let it happen on purpose, and I came across Road to Tyranny.
		And wow, did I not want it to be true.
		But I was able to check out 90-95% of the stuff.
		All true, very upsetting, and that's why I'm here today.
		You know, because There's still these other people on the other side trying to enslave us.
		I mean, Michael Reagan doesn't have a grasp on reality.
		He's just, again, soliciting our murder because we know what's going on.
		It's unbelievable.
		All right, let's try to play this other clip where he had Dice on yesterday, and then we will have Mark Dice for you on the program.
unidentified		Jesse Ventura, who's an explorer.
		You have Bill Doyle, the head of the coalition of 9-11 families, says that half of the families, half of the widows, say it's an inside job.
		We have Lieutenant Colonel Robert Bowman of the U.S. Air Force.
		He was head of the Star Wars program, says inside job.
		Andre Bombiolo, the former German...
		So you're saying...
		So Mark, you're saying somebody who they...
		Report to be the dumbest human being on the planet.
		George Bush was able to plan out in the first...
		George Bush is the spokesperson and a puppet for these powers that are in control.
		So who is it that planned 9-11?
		Who is it to put it all together?
		And George Bush ended up being the president when 9-11 happened.
		What's the name of the...
		You're giving me a lot of names.
		What's the name of the person that in fact put this all together, thought it all out for the inside job to happen?
		Why don't you look at the project for the New American Century?
		Why don't you tell me?
		Tell me!
		You're on the air.
		Tell me who it was that in fact planned this fallout.
		Will you stop cutting me off?
		I want an answer!
		Listen, you go and look at the project for the New American Century.
		I don't want to look at the project.
		I want to...
		I don't want to look at the project.
		I want you to give me the names.
		Look at the names on the list.
		Give me the names.
		Look at the high level names in the division.
		Give me the names.
		Give me the names.
		I suggest that you go and watch the film Terror Storm.
		No, you give me the names.
		Give me the names.
		Stop cutting me off here.
		Listen. I'm not an insider.
		I don't have the specific names.
		We have the specific instances and the evidence of these terrorists not being smart, of the investigations being planned.
		Mark, Mark, come on.
		You're sending DVDs, you're sending DVDs to the troops.
		Hijackings going on that morning.
		Mermaid cutting charges found in the wreckage of the World Trade Center.
		Mark, you're sending DVDs to the military talking about The Kennedy administration, the Johnson administration, you're saying George Bush himself was not responsible for what happened on 9-11.
		There was other plans out there, other people putting these things in.
		You tell me a website to go to, just give me some names, what organization, what party, what political persuasion, you know, what group of people was responsible or were responsible then for doing these things to prepare the World Trade Center to fall as it fell As an inside job on 9-11.
		You have all this information, just tell us who that is.
		Yeah, yeah.
		High-level elements within the CIA, within the Defense Department, within the Security Council.
		But you have no names?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's get to Mark Dice.
		He's actually here.
		We'll play the rest of that clip after he's gone, but he's only got a short period.
		And we didn't get to the apology there, but he just keeps wanting names.
		And you're explaining to him, you know, take a look at the project for a new American Century list.
		Paul Wolfowitz.
		Dan Quayle, Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld.
		I could go on.
		Mark, how are you?
unidentified		I'm doing good, but I'm still a little disturbed.
		The spokesperson over there at Radio America, both the affiliate director and the communications director, told me that no disciplinary action will be taken against Reagan.
		They said that he has apologized and that they think that everything is okay.
		And I asked him if the president of Radio America was familiar with the controversy that was going on.
		And he declined to say.
		So I'm under the suspicion that they're just trying to protect Reagan, that the president, as of yesterday, was not aware of this.
		So I posted his direct line and his extension as email address, and I see that PrisonPlanet.com has something up there too.
		And this is appalling also that no mainstream media has covered this raw story.
		I don't know if raw story is considered mainstream media, but I mean, we're talking, this should be in I think There's
		going to be career losses.
		There's going to be a new filing over at the unemployment line when something like this happens.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		Let's give out the Radio America President Jim Roberts number.
		Everybody listening out there needs to make this call.
		Again, they're threatening you and mine's lives.
		They've threatened Mark's lives.
		This is garbage.
		I mean, literally said you should be shot and he'd pay for the bullet.
		So, here we go.
unidentified		I'll give you the number in a second.
		He thinks that just by apologizing it's going to be okay.
		You know, if somebody's drinking and driving and they happen to have an accident and kill somebody, they can say that they're sorry all they want, but that doesn't mean that they're not going to be held accountable, that they're not going to go to jail, that they're not going to be charged.
		And again, for anybody that thinks that my interview compromised the case, the case officer said that it was completely fine for me to go on the show.
		Jim Roberts is the name of the president of Radio America.
		You can go to RadioAmerica.org.
		There's a phone number down at the very bottom of the page.
		His extension is extension 215.
		So if you're not in front of the computer, you can write this number down.
		It is area code 703-302-1000, extension 215.
		And his email is JRoberts.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		That's J, the letter.
unidentified		RadioAmerica.org.
		Yeah, the letter J. Roberts at RadioAmerica.org or J. Roberts at AmericanVeteransCenter.org.
		And just please continue to follow reports with the FCC.
		You must include the date.
		When they say the call letters, I just put RadioAmerica, syndicator.
		For the date, you have to enter June 10th.
		The form is very picky on there.
		It took me several entries before it would finally accept it.
		And we just got to get the ball rolling over there.
		I mean, just the fact that his studio, you know how it is.
		In a studio, we get this impression that there's a large, huge corporation that runs these things.
		But a lot of time, it's the producer, it's some technicians.
		And I have a feeling that they're just kind of keeping this to themselves.
		They don't want the higher-ups within Radio America to be aware of this.
		So, we're going straight to Jim Roberts, the president.
		And the more we get this out in the mainstream media, And the more people it's going to become getting aware of this, the more heat it's going to bring to have him fired.
		And in that interview with me yesterday, he made a couple of radical claims that are just blatantly false, saying that Radio America, or that Air America host rather, has called for the death of George Bush.
		Just blatantly false.
		The Secret Service would be investigating that.
		They would be arrested and they would be fired immediately.
		And it's interesting, he doesn't think that the Bilderberg group is important.
		That's old news.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all the policy they just discussed still hasn't been implemented.
		And as I've discussed before, you know, that's the weekend where we have, you know, 140 people.
		This summer we're going to have 3,000 people where they'll disperse their little agendas throughout in a compartmentalized fashion.
		We've got Mark Dice with us.
		It's the Alex Jones Show.
		We'll be back after this.
unidentified		We'll be back after this.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, we're back.
		The Alex Jones Show.
		I'm Jason Bermas, I'm sitting in.
		Don't forget that Alex is putting out a new film.
		For PrisonPlanet.tv members, you're going to be able to see that in high quality, folks.
		High quality.
		Over at PrisonPlanet.tv.
		It's 9-11 Chronicles, Truth Rising, Mark Dice, you're in it.
		And, you know, you haven't seen that yet.
		Actually, Rob was talking about getting you at least a couple downloads off an FTP site so you could check it out.
		I'll talk to you about that off air.
		Anyway, 9-11 Chronicles, July 4th, over at PrisonPlanet.tv and we're going to be shipping out DVDs as well.
		We just finished the cover art and mastering the DVD and sent it out.
		It's pretty exciting.
		I can't wait for it to get out there.
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		It's going to show that there's a movement, that you can make a difference.
		You know, again, people like Mark Dice, student scholar for 9-11, truth are in it.
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		Now, during the break, me and Mark were talking about, you know, He was making the point that maybe, you know, with the inboxes full about Tim Russert's death, you know, this story slipped under the radar.
		They don't know who Michael Reagan is, obviously, you know, Ronald Reagan's son.
		You put out another press release, Mark.
		Why don't you tell people about that?
unidentified		I sent out again another press release yesterday.
		This is really...
		This needs to be done, but at the same time, I'm angry it's distracting me from finishing the new books.
		I sent out a press release to literally hundreds of news agencies.
		I mean, you know, every channel at Fox News, every show at Fox News, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, everybody reported to the Washington Post, the Washington Times.
		I mean, anybody and everybody that you could think of that has a contact link.
		And still nobody has picked this up.
		Nobody has replied.
		The only people who have talked about this have been InfoWars, Raw story and two individuals over at Air America, Tom Hartman and Mike Malloy.
		And just the fact that they've swept this under the rug is just absolutely appalling.
		So please, let's just continue.
		This needs to be done.
		This man can't get away with this.
		He needs to lose his job.
		He needs to get in the unemployment line.
		This needs to set a precedent that people can't cross this line.
		This is one line that you can't cross.
		Let's just continue to get the word out to the mainstream media.
		Just email them.
		Email them the audio clip, the date, the time.
		You can even send my whole press release in.
		And let's just continue to call Radio America here, radioamerica.org.
		The phone number is at the bottom of their website.
		The extension to the president is extension 215.
		And his email, if you go to prisonplanet.com, there's an article there about how he is having no disciplinary action.
		And you can find his email down on the bottom.
		The headline is Reagan's quote apology weak and disingenuous and you know when I when I got on the show he didn't even Admit fully what his comments were he tried to sweep it under the rug and make it seem like he said You know if somebody were to shoot me that he'd like to pay for the bullets I had to correct him and make it clear that he was Urging people to do that and myself and others and I see that you guys posted some of his other just absolutely appalling Yeah,
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		you know, let's let's just kill babies and I believe I've heard him say that they're in that same clip That there won't be peace in the Middle East until all of them are dead.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You know, he was advocating for a total genocide.
unidentified		This is a high-level Republican strategist, and I don't know what kind of a strategy they have over there in the Middle East, but that just is the worst genocide.
		I mean, maybe he's a strategist for the Nazi party.
		I'm not really sure exactly what kind of a party would be employing him for his ideas, because that's just utterly ridiculous.
		I don't even know at this point.
		I'm just going to turn up the heat and I'm still, I'm not calming down about this.
		It's been a couple days now and I think he's just hoping that it's going to go sweep under the rug, that people are going to forget about this.
		But let's continue the calls.
		The communications director and the affiliates director over there and his syndicator have said that they've been getting hundreds of calls.
		So if you're going to call, don't just call and say that he should be, you know, he's the traitor and he's the American.
		Just say, hey, he needs to be fired immediately.
		This is unacceptable.
		And let's not harass these people, and let's keep it civil.
		But just a man, look, this is unacceptable.
		This has never been said in the history of radio, and it needs to stop immediately.
		You need to remove his platform for this.
		His career needs to be over.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, and our listeners can make it happen if they want to make it happen.
		That's the power of the individual, Mark.
		If we all come together, if we all say that we have the power, if we all email this guy, if we all call his office, Things are going to get done, and things aren't going to get done if nobody does anything.
		I want to shift gears a little bit back to that point we ended with before the break.
unidentified		Bilderberg Group's just a week ago now, okay?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Can you stay for one more segment, Mark?
		Sure. Alright, awesome.
		But anyway, again, just a week ago, 140 or so of the most powerful people in the world are there.
		They're going to dispense that agenda in Sonoma, California in about a month, folks.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		It's the Alice Jones Show.
		And again, Bilderberg meeting is important because you're going to have David Rockefeller there every year, okay?
		You're going to have the heads of the industries that matter, aka Google, is there.
		Gee, I wonder why Google was there this year.
		Microsoft is there.
		Weird. I think they had a neuroscience professor and some kind of a crazy psychologist there this year, probably for their little psyops that they love to play against us.
		They had Bernanke there, head of the Federal Reserve Bank.
		Okay, Condoleezza Rice is there.
		You can be sure she'll be in the next administration somewhere.
		You can bet it.
		Alright? Wolfowitz is there.
		Wolfowitz is one of those guys that's really been a ball player for a while.
		And he just kind of stays in the backdrop, getting minimal press attention.
		But he's a real player.
		He's one of the names that I probably would have named with Reagan when he was asking me about names.
		Cheney was one of them.
		I would definitely say that Wolfowitz At least, you know, think tanked it.
		You look at those Project for a New American Century documents and they're just disgusting.
		You know they took the PNAC site down last month, right Mark?
unidentified		I know that some listeners are hearing about this for the first time.
		Not everybody tunes into the show every day.
		I don't want to let this overshadow Operation Inform the Soldiers, which is our plan that's already in motion to send DVDs and emails and letters to the troops stationed in Iraq.
		And again, You can get information, just Google.
		You can go to my site or just Google how to send packages to troops.
		And you can find out, you can sign up with certain organizations, churches, adoptaussoldier.org.
		There's also programs where you can sign up and get email addresses of the troops if you don't want to spend the shipping to send stuff to them.
		And you can just write them letters, send them emails.
		Send them Google links and YouTube videos and all sorts of stuff or even links to PrisonPlanet.com and let's befriend these people and let's have some new pen pals over there.
		And this is just going to expand operation and inform the soldiers to an unprecedented level.
		And I think that this is, we're going to get all the soldiers now talking about this, getting the emails and create a good, safe environment for them to discuss these issues with each other so that soldiers that have previously suspected this or are part of the movement already Absolutely, and you can find out all that information over at MarkDice.com.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You know, let's make those packages fun, too.
		I mean, put some food that you would want to eat in there, you know, stacks of DVDs.
		Who knows?
		If you've got a little extra scratch, maybe one of those portable DVD players, maybe, you know, an iPod or a Zoom.
		There's a lot of cheap media players out there now you can get for like $30 that have a screen.
		And you load them up with these kind of documentaries, all you tech heads out there.
		This is important because these people are going to come back to this country and chances are they're going to be working in security forces.
		And unfortunately, our police and our security in general, our National Guard, our military, is becoming more and more privatized.
		And things like Blackwater, you're going to see them on the streets of this country.
		And do you want soldiers that are completely and totally brainwashed and Do you want people that are actually going to give a second thought and maybe help the resistance, John?
		I want to call you John.
		I'm sorry.
unidentified		Also, if you're going to send the DVDs, if you're going to send original copies, that's fine.
		I would almost put a new label over the DVD and don't send the box because I think people are going to go through these boxes and if they see DVDs with 9-11 this and 9-11 that, they're not going to want the troops to get that.
		So maybe just put, label it, you know, Iron Man DVD pre-release before it's in stores, or some new cool movie that's in theaters that wouldn't have been, you know, they would have had a chance to not see yet, and then get that out there.
		Yeah, you're right.
		Send food, send canned goods, you know, maybe send some extra socks and some things to them, some board games, you know, something to help make their time over there a little bit more easy for them, and then work in some good stuff.
		And let's just continue to unleash Operation Inform the Soldiers, as well as Operation Fire Michael Reagan.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		And, you know, that was what was successful back in the days of Kazan, Morpheus, and all these peer-to-peer networks.
		People would re-label Loose Change, and they would re-label Road to Tyranny as the latest Hollywood blockbuster.
		And when people would go to download, you know, like Superman or Spider-Man, they would really get one of these movies.
		And hopefully, You know, within the first 90 seconds or so, you could catch their interest.
		And everybody's gonna watch them.
		And if you do label them like that, there's more of a chance that they're gonna have the entire unit gathered around, psyched up to see it.
		It's true!
		It's true, let's be honest.
		And, uh, you know, a lot of people are gonna be like, oh, that's deceptive.
		Well, you know, unfortunately, the people that are doing this are deceptive on a whole nother level.
		And the difference between us and them is that, you know, we wanna love them, we want them to be part of society, and they just wanna kill us.
		You know, the people that run the show, they want to kill and enslave us, and that's what's so scary to me.
		You know, they pose as these Christian conservatives, Mark, and that's what really, really freaks me out, is that people really think that Bush is a Christian.
		And he's just a puppet, sure, but on the whole, you know, the whole Republican thing is all about being conservative and Christian, and they're anything but.
		I mean, they're into the occult.
		This is not, like, my opinion.
		This is what they're into, Mark.
unidentified		Yeah, this is an aspect where, it's such an esoteric aspect, and it's kind of the ultra-advanced PhD level of the New World Order.
		I mean, there's so much stuff that people can understand about the loss of our freedoms and the criminal activities within the government, but when you start going down that road, you do lose some people.
		But it's very true, and you know, Adolf Hitler and his highest level people were into the occult, they were inspired.
		By Helena Blavatsky and the Secret Doctrine, a book which says that Lucifer's good, that Satan's good, that Satan is the Christ and the Savior.
		And this same belief system has been practiced by megalomaniacs and by ultra-powerful people within high-level secret societies for really thousands of years.
		And Bush and all his cabal are no different.
		The Bohemian Grove ceremony is coming up here in a couple weeks.
		And they're going to go have their annual Moloch sacrifice, burning an effigy at the altar of Moloch, a demon from the Old Testament, where people used to burn people alive at the altar.
		And here they are, reenacting it in a way that's really just disgusting.
		I don't know if anybody knows this.
		If everybody knows this, the listenership, I know the listenership is growing so much and the movement is expanding so much.
		The Bohemian Grove's coming up here.
		We're going to be launching Operation Expose the Bohemian Grove.
		Try to get that out of the mainstream press and really let everybody understand what it is they're doing out there and the implications of their lakeside talks and their off-the-record policy discussions.
		This is not just a party for them.
		This is implementing and discussing the next round of tyranny that they're going to be implementing.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely. And for those who don't know, For the new listeners, the guys that are going, oh my God, what did I tune into?
		I haven't heard this before.
		Well, just Google Cremation of Care.
		Go to YouTube and just check out the ceremony.
		It's, I mean, first of all, you can do a quick image search, you know, and you can find out that everything we're saying is true and you can see the likes of Newt Gingrich and Alan Greenspan and Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. yucking it up there.
		You can see Reagan when he was a B-movie star at the Grove, right across the table from Richard Nixon.
		You can see all this.
		You can see Helmut Schmidt giving a speech before, you know, the next rung of the elite.
		Remember, there are rungs.
		Not everybody's on the inside.
		And, uh, it's quite the status symbol to get into the Bohemian Grove.
		An all-male club, uh, 3,000 of the most powerful people from around the world, mostly, uh, Anglo-Saxon European deal.
		But, uh, they're doing anything but, you know, they, they, they're literally cross-dressers too, Mark.
		It's just so bizarre.
		I mean, they put on plays where they, I can't believe it, but I have the annals sitting about 15 feet away from me, and you open it up, and one of the pictures I love that we haven't published yet, but I should publish it, is this news reporter.
		He's either a news reporter or a cartoonist or whatever, and he's drawing how there is a news reporter there doing the news, but then he's thinking about How he's actually a member of the Grove and he's in the little ceremonial garb, he's in the hood and cape, and he's got the candle.
		And I'm thinking to myself, oh my god.
		This is just so unbelievable.
		But it's real.
unidentified		You know, do you remember the rumors that the mob had photographs of J. Edgar Hoover dressed in drag and that he was a cross-dresser?
unidentified		I just can't help but think that those were photos that leaked out of the Grove, perhaps something.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I would bet my bottom dollar on it, man.
unidentified		Yeah, and one of the annals.
		And, I mean, for that information to be leaked decades ago would have just crushed everybody.
		So I'm sure they just tried to wipe that under the rug as much as they could.
		And, yeah, so this is more than bizarre.
		This is a whole hour or a whole three-hour show in and of itself.
		But, you know, I've got to run here.
		We thank you for the time, man.
		I want to thank everybody again for just getting on board with this.
		And let's just continue to send a message here.
		Let's not let this die down until something is done.
		If we just continue to apply the pressure system.
		Civilly and responsibly, I think that we can get this man fired at the minimum.
		And again, there's an ongoing case that's being investigated by the proper authorities, and I'm pursuing other avenues as well.
		So, I just want to thank everybody again.
		I gotta run.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, Mark.
		Thank you so much.
		And actually, we're going to play some more of that clip where Reagan tries to give a half-hearted apology to Mark Dice.
		Again, go to markdice.com.
		Become a member of this soldier outreach program.
		And I'm going to give the number out one more time.
		If you want to make a difference, you can call the President of Radio America.
		His name is Jim Roberts.
		It is 703-302-1000 extension 215.
		That's 703-302-1000.
		All right, let's play this clip because again, I mean, Reagan is so obnoxious.
		Again, we are helping the Taliban escape and then saying it's a threat in Afghanistan.
		Think about that.
		Our soldiers are going to be in the Middle East forever.
		I know a lot of you out there have a brother, a sister, a cousin, an uncle overseas.
		You know, perhaps a mother, a father.
		So, you know, they're not fighting a just war right now.
		They're really fighting for tyrants.
unidentified		It's, it's, oh man, makes me sick.
		New American Century.
		Go look at the project for the New American Century where they called for a new Pearl Harbor attack.
		So that they could carry out their agenda in the Middle East.
		You mean to tell me you have no names?
		George Bush is responsible.
		He did not plan this.
		George Bush is a spokesperson and a propagandist.
		And you phony conservatives should be ashamed of him.
		But you have no names?
		You should be calling for his impeachment.
		But he should be gone January 20, 2009, Mark.
		but you have no names?
		Come on.
		Look, we have the declassified documents.
		We have instances of terrorism.
		We have all of the evidence that something happened here that is not being told to us.
		We need a new investigation.
		Did you know that only 84% of Americans think that we've been lied to about the circumstances of 9-11 and demanding a new investigation?
		Last September 11th at Ground Zero, there were thousands of individuals marching, demanding a new investigation.
		Like I said, Bill Doyle, the head of the Coalition of 9-11.
		Come on!
		That's the largest organization of 9-11 widows.
		He says that half of the family members believe that 9-11 was an inside job.
		So I'm saying that this needs to be reinvestigated.
		There's been a major cover-up.
		This has been admitted in every major poll in the country.
		And it's phonies like you that are spewing your hatred towards people like me and others.
		And you have taken your rhetoric to a new and unprecedented and dangerous level.
		And just because you have me on your show and you apologize doesn't mean that you should not be held legally and civilly accountable for calling for my murder and others' murder.
		Do you understand the ramifications of suggesting that to millions of people at an age when you can track down somebody's home address on the Internet?
		Mark, let me take a break.
		I'll take a break.
		That's how you pay for these things.
		Mark Geis on the hotline.
		Or is this his manifesto?
		I'm Mike Reagan at 1-800-468-MICLE.
		Take a break.
		Be back right after this.
		It's time for the one minute.
		It's time for the one minute.
		The world's most powerful and influential people, and nobody in the mainstream press covers this?
		It's not an old story.
		I'm sorry.
		Well, yeah, because it really goes nowhere when you do bring it up.
		I used to bring it up, in fact, years ago on the show.
		But again, all right, so the Bilderbergs, let's give it to the Bilderbergs and all that kind of stuff.
		Who's going to investigate them?
		Because if what you say is true, then the Bilderbergs makes them control everybody anyway.
		Perhaps we need an international council, an international investigation.
		Oh, please.
		You don't want to go international with this.
		You know, there's something else that came to mind.
		Here you said it's a beautiful sunny day here in California.
		Is that what you said?
		I was under the impression that you're out of the country.
		Well, I'm not out of the country yet.
		I'm not out of the country yet, so that's, you know.
		Anyway, I happen to be in-country at this point in time.
		I want to ask you what you think would happen if a left-wing host were to call for the murder, the unqualified, unequivocal tracking down and murdering of an individual.
		Well, let's see.
		There's Mike Malloy, Randy Rhodes.
		They've been calling the murder of George Bush and what have you.
		And we radio talk show sometimes we get fired up in what we say.
	We get angry and stuff like that.
	And sometimes we say things that are absolutely...
	Alright, I don't know why I cut out right there, but uh...
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You get the point.
		You know, this guy, I think Mark Dice spanked him.
		I think he spanked him really hard.
		You know, this guy's a total phony conservative.
		He knows it.
		He knows he's a shill.
		He knows he's on thin ice.
		I mean, Dice really laid it down to him right there.
		He could be held criminally accountable.
		Think about that.
		He should be held criminally accountable.
		Remember, bullet in his head, he's gonna pay for the bullet.
		Firing squad, no blindfold.
		For us trying to, you know, tell the truth.
		I'm sorry.
		You know, a lot of people email me.
		Not a lot.
		I mean, there's, I guess there's those within the movement that tell me that we have to consider all these feelings are being hurt and this and that.
		I'm sorry.
		Feelings are coming secondary.
		They want to kill me.
		They want to kill my family.
		They want to enslave me.
		They want to make my quality of life so low that I am under the control.
		Do you want to live in China?
		One child policies, total police state.
		That's the model.
unidentified		Oh, but we have to we have to be so we have to be caring.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Come on, man.
		Listen, I'm not saying you don't have to be sensitive to people, but listen, you know, just because you don't like somebody's opinion, you don't like somebody's evidence, too bad.
		Quit crying.
		So sick of it.
		I'm so sick of the petty infighting.
		You know, that's why I love this new film coming out by Alex Jones, really.
		And I can't say it enough because 9-11 Truth Rising, 911 Chronicles, Truth Rising, not only goes through the first responder struggle to bring out the truth about the air quality and how the EPA and Christine Todd Whitman lied, it also shows that nobody is beyond approach to the people.
		Nobody. We have every presidential candidate in this film.
unidentified		Okay? John McCain.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I think a couple times, John McCain.
		Hillary Clinton.
		I think a couple times, Hillary Clinton.
		Barack Obama.
		You know?
		I mean, no one's invincible.
		These are human beings.
		We can make a difference.
		We can become the government again.
		I totally and completely believe that.
		No one is beyond reproach.
		Nobody. I mean, Schwarzenegger gets confronted in this movie.
		Bloomberg gets grilled in this movie.
		Greenspan gets confronted in this movie.
		Bill Clinton gets confronted in this movie.
		Interviews with Rosie O'Donnell, George Carlin, Martin Sheen, Willie Nelson, Jesse Ventura.
		It's an unreal film.
		You know, it goes through 9-11 Truth Canada.
		Guy up in the Walmarts there getting the truth out that way.
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		All these different styles, flavors of activism.
		Shalom. Going across the country letting people know 9-11 was an inside job.
		Christians shouldn't support the war.
		Well if you're truly a Christian, and that's totally your deal, how could you support the war?
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		Now I want to get into a little bit of domestic news, because we went over what happened in Afghanistan.
		Once again, Friday they report, oh, prison attacked!
		1,000 militants out, 400 of them Taliban.
		Monday they report, oh, Taliban has a new stronghold in Afghanistan.
		Late Monday they report, oh yeah, the United States helped, uh, helped attack that prison and free those people.
		I wonder why.
		But, right now, remember the DNC is out in Colorado.
		And, uh, right now they're drilling all sorts of good stuff.
		Oh wait, not good stuff.
		Police state stuff.
		Domestic urban warfare drills against the people for this DNC thing.
		You see that whole, uh, Recreate 68 thing I guess got broken up.
		But all the same people are behind the new organization.
		They're just trying to shadow what they try to do.
		You know, they don't want people to understand that they were trying to provoke violence at that event, telling people to wear shields, throw red paint, destroy cameras.
		Real nonsense.
		Can't get anything done that way.
		That's not the model, folks.
		They're called provocateurs.
		They did that in Seattle.
		Okay? At the WTO.
		You don't believe me?
		You couldn't even, by the second day you couldn't even walk around with a button that was anti-WTO to go to work.
		And it was all provocateur.
		A bunch of people hired by the State Department, I believe.
		They hold them up, they let them destroy a whole bunch of stuff, and then they just squelch down on the actual legitimate protesters.
		And that's what they're hoping to do here.
		And they're prepping for it.
		You see, there are black helicopters flying around right now.
		In Colorado.
		You know, the black helicopters that supposedly don't exist.
		That's another great part of, uh, 9-11 Chronicles Truth Rising.
		I think it's even in the credits.
		One of these guys gets confronted and he says, honestly, I think that's black helicopter stuff.
		And I think to myself, wait a minute.
		Black heli- does that mean he believes it?
		Because, uh, black helicopters obviously exist.
		Folks, how long ago did we have a Hollywood movie called Black Hawk Down?
		There are black helicopters.
		And yes, they have been in the states.
		Don't, uh, don't believe me.
		You can go check out thedenverpost.com.
		And by the way, we have eyewitnesses.
		We're gonna have video of these non-existent black helicopters for you.
		It's choppers conduct security exercises.
	We'll be back right after this to go over all the drills going on out in Colorado right now.
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		I'm Jason Bermas and I'm going to be with you all week.
		Choppers conduct security exercises over at the DenverPost.com.
		A half dozen military and law enforcement helicopters buzzed above the Pepsi Center Monday night in a drill to train for the Democratic National Convention in August, Denver Police said.
		Now there's another article saying that they're doing it for an emergency but it's not for the DNC.
		Yeah, okay.
		Sure you're not.
		Sure you're not running urban warfare drills.
		They might kill some people there this time, folks.
		Think about that.
		Think about that.
		They killed somebody at the World Series by shooting one of those non-lethal weapons into their eyes.
		Remember that?
		Outside of Boston?
		Right through this girl's eye.
		Bam! Come on.
		Did they really need to do that?
		Point-blank range?
		All right.
		But this is serious, because this isn't just going to be riot cops.
		This is going to be actual military there.
		You bet it will be.
		Anyway, maneuvers over downtown.
		Maneuvers over downtown were Coordinated by the U.S. Department of Justice, but authorities would not release details of the training.
		Weird. Hmm.
		They didn't want to release the details.
		I wonder why?
		The flights drew attention of several concerned downtown residents.
		You think?
		Black helicopters in your town?
		You think?
		Really? That caused concern?
		Well, it probably caused concern because people go, that's black helicopter stuff.
unidentified		There are no black helicopters.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Ridiculousness. Absolutely ridiculous.
		Ridiculousness, man.
		It... Oh, man!
		It's like SWAT right over there, said Lodo resident Tom Copperschmidt as he watched the helicopters from his balcony.
		Yeah, you think it's like SWAT?
		Oh, boy.
		Oh, boy.
		So the hospitals are also holding a disaster drill.
		You see, after they shoot everybody, and they baton people, and they have their little provocateurs that start the whole thing, Hold away.
		They're going to have to start wheeling people into the hospital.
		So eight Denver hospitals held drills Tuesday.
		That's today, guys.
		To test their abilities to respond in a disaster that would injure thousands of people.
		Unbelievable. Or was that last Tuesday?
		It might have been last Tuesday.
		Maybe not.
		It's also denverpost.com.
		Hospitals, victims, role play, Pepsi Center disaster as convention looms.
		Unbelievable. The mock exercise A dirty bomb explosion at a Pepsi Center packed with 20,000 people was one of the largest ever cooperative drills for the city's hospitals, organizers said.
		Can you imagine that?
		If a dirty bomb...
		I hate the term, dirty bomb.
		Okay? That's like, uh...
		How do I explain this?
		I mean, let's face it.
		Everybody we're shooting cruise missiles into in the Middle East, they're getting depleted uranium all over.
		Okay? D.U. poisonings everywhere.
		That's like a dirty bomb.
		Kidding me?
		So it's just, it's just, you know, another explosion.
		Of course there's going to be some kind of radiation.
		But it's not, none of it's going to be good for you.
		Especially if they blow up 20,000 people.
		That's great.
		Let's drill 20,000 deaths.
		That's, that's awesome.
		About 140 volunteers participated in the citywide drill.
		Many of them acting as victims.
		See, that's about right though.
		If, if over like 100 or so act as victims, They'll probably only hurt and kill.
		You know, I don't see them killing more than a dozen or so people unless it gets out of hand, but they'll hurt at least a hundred, maybe two.
		Though the hospitals knew there would be a drill, the details became known only as the scenario unfolded.
		The Office of Emergency Management alerted hospitals about 9 a.m. that a chemical bomb had exploded at the arena.
		Shortly after, about 10 volunteer victims lined in the wall outside of the emergency waiting to be hosed down.
		Oh, that's nice.
		So they got the Oh, they got the decontamination centers.
		That's scary.
		Alright, let's look at this other drill.
		I think this is the one trying to say that this isn't actually for the DNC.
		Where's this off of?
		This is the Rocky Mountain News.
		See, this gets published.
		Although Denver Post also gets published.
		But this looks like it's straight out of the paper.
		Drilling for disaster info!
		With the DNC in mind, responders learn from quote-unquote emergency We'll go over the article on the other side.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, we are back.
		And I guess we're having problems getting Paul Craig Roberts, but that's okay, because I want to go over this article anyway.
		Drilling for Disaster.
		With the DMC in mind, responders learn from 411 emergency.
		Uh, an explosion at the Pepsi Center.
		Pesticides. Perhaps 20,000 victims.
		See, really playing up the fear angle over at, uh, the Rocky Mountain News.
		Victims were volunteers, of course, as the drill unfolded.
		The men and women who would have to respond to such a disaster learned numerous lessons.
		It's all about learning numerous lessons.
		Not stopping it, but just getting ready to take care of everybody.
		That's good.
		Take care of the bodies.
		Black helicopters.
		Urban warfare drills.
		Well, you know what?
		Let's let's let that story develop, honestly.
		Let's get that one out there.
		We're going to wait because we're going to have some video for you on that.
		And there's going to be a ton of stuff posted on it.
		And I hope a lot of people show up to the DNC to protest, but to protest the right way on the right issues, you know, not to worship, you know, the Republicans, not to be pro-war, you know.
		To be there to say, hey, we know that Barack Obama is not here for change.
		We know that him and Hillary met at the same time that the Bilderberg group met in the same place.
		While Jim Johnson, who then was there to decide who was going to be his running mate, was one of the attendees on the list.
		I mean, how obvious does it have to be?
		Tucker called his campaign up and asked him where he was and asked him if he had attended the Bilderberg meeting, and they refused to answer.
		I mean, what's it gonna take?
		Seriously. What is it gonna take for people to wake up?
		For people to understand that the mainstream media is completely controlled?
		And that the police are out of control.
		It's bad enough the police are out of control, but now they're gonna have urban warfare training.
		And, uh, I got this story in front of me.
		I should probably wait till the, uh, final hour and I'll probably show it again in the final hour.
		But, uh, down in Florida...
		Down in Florida, there are these new sheriff t-shirts.
		Okay? One of them says, if you can't stand behind our troops, do us all a favor and stand in front of them.
		So it's like, oh, if you're not for the war, why don't we just shoot you?
		And then the other one is the scumbag eradication team.
		And it's a smiling moustached police officer with a belt, with his little weapons on his belt, dumping scumbags into a toilet.
		I think there's like five or six legs coming out.
		It looks like they're all dead by now.
		And it says, not in our town!
		We're the scumbag eradication team!
		You know, no judge, no jury, no trial.
		You're just automatically a scumbag apparently, if a police officer deems you so.
		And now he's gonna wear a t-shirt to encourage it.
		What do we got coming up?
		I think I'm going to start taking calls in the next segment, guys.
		So if you want to jump in and you want to talk about real issues, because I, you know, yesterday I had some problems with callers.
		Call in about some nonsense.
		Listen, keep the nonsense to the shows about, you know, the paranormal and, you know, the UFOs.
		Do that somewhere else.
		Okay? That's not what we're talking about here.
		We're talking about real issues.
		We're talking about politics.
		I don't want to hear that garbage.
		Well, it looks like, uh, The Japanese Times, I believe it's the Japanese Times, mainstream publication over in Japan, has now done a story on Fujita.
		It's the Japan Times online.
		And it says, Lawmaker takes 9-11 doubts global.
		In September 2003, I'm sorry, in the September 2003 article for the Guardian newspaper, Michael Meacher, who served as Tony Blair's environment minister from May 1997 to June 2003, Shocked the establishment by calling the global war on terrorism quote-unquote bogus.
		Good man, Meacher.
		Even more controversially, he implied that the United States government either allowed 9-11 to happen or played some role in the destruction wrought that day.
		Besides Meacher, few politicians have publicly questioned America's official 9-11 narrative until Diet member Yoshika Fujita.
		And Fujita, I've extensively covered over to my blog at loosechange911.com.
	And there's been a ton of stories over at Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
	In January 2008, Fujita, a member of the Democratic Party of Japan, asked the Japanese Parliament and Prime Minister Yasuyo Fukuda to explain gaping holes in the official 9-11 story that various groups, including those who call themselves the 9-11 Truth Movement, claim to have exposed.
	Fujita, along with a growing number of individuals, including European and American politicians, that's right, you know, Let's not forget Kucinich recently tried to impeach the president, three of them involving 9-11, are leading a charge to conduct a thorough independent investigation of what happened on September 11, 2001. Oh, look at that!
	We get a little plug here.
	I didn't know it.
	Three or four years ago, I saw some internet videos like Loose Change and 9-11 in Plain Sight, and I began to ask questions, Fujita said in an interview, but I still couldn't believe this was done by anyone but Al-Qaeda.
	Last year, I watched more videos and read books written by Professor David Ray Griffin, a Professor Emeritus of Philosophy of Religion and Theology at Claremont Graduate University, who wrote the most famous truth movement book, The New Pearl Harbor.
	About things such as the collapse of World Trade Center No.
	7, this building, which was never hit by an airplane, collapsed straight down.
	Between the videos showing the way it fell and the numerous reports of explosions, many are convinced that this building was demolished.
	Fujita's presentation on the diet and Fukuda focused on a great deal on yet another aspect of 9-11 that is Now quite a few around the world find extremely suspicious the Pentagon crash and it goes on Quite a bit.
	They should do a story over at a prison planet definitely about this and Yeah, you know, he's really he's really trying to bring it to the forefront I think it needs to be brought to the forefront around the world.
	I do think again that That an international tribunal is not the way to go.
	That we have to clean house from the inside.
	We don't want to lose our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
	I mean, they're already eviscerated, but I'd like to restore them.
	For me, this is a restoration movement.
	This isn't a revolution.
	I'm trying to restore the Bill of Rights and Constitution here, people.
	I mean, I'm trying to bring freedom back to America.
	What do you think?
	Is it a good idea?
	Apparently, a lot of people thought it was a good idea when they started donating to the Ron Paul campaign, and he made millions and millions of dollars and broke through to the mainstream.
	I had a number one New York Times best-selling book with Manifesto in the title.
	Apparently somebody's listening out there.
	We're reaching some people.
	The question is, are you going to reach out?
	Are you going to go to Infowars.com and get the movie that you think is the best way to wake somebody up?
	Now how do I do that?
	Everybody's like, oh I don't know which one's the best.
	I haven't even really watched any.
	Well if you have an internet connection, you go to video.google.com, you type in Terror Storm.
	Okay, you type in Endgame.
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	You type in Loose Change.
	And you can watch them for free.
	And then make the decision what you think's the best.
	You get a copy of it.
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	For the summer barbecue July 4th is coming up with the release of 9-11 truth rising There's a whole lot out there that you can share that you can change people's minds I Mean, these are the tools.
	I'm sorry, but the vast public just doesn't read anymore You know books are great.
	And I guess I guess some people are reading the Ron Paul fans are reading But most of your kids aren't reading unfortunately At least, not anything but Rolling Stone and trashy teen mags.
	The girls really love those Teenie Bopper mags.
	And then right into womanhood, man.
	It's Harper's Bazaar.
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	I'm not saying guys aren't as guilty with Sports Illustrated and Maxim.
	But it's all, it's all like tabloid trash.
	It's even, it's evolved.
	Because the tab, again, like I was making the point yesterday, the tabloid trash was like Entertainment Tonight, One Hour.
	On mainstream television.
	That's it.
	You know, the rest of the news was pretty straightforward.
	I'm not saying it was great.
	I'm not saying it wasn't, you know, part of the propaganda machine, but they weren't reporting on Britney Spears and Paris Hilton or, you know, back in the day, it would have been Madonna all the time.
	She had to actually do something.
	It wasn't just get up in the morning.
	And now that's what the focus is.
	There's entire channels dedicated to this nonsense.
	Those are the books that are, I'm sorry, the magazines, the publications that are staying in business.
	And, uh, I don't know.
	I just feel like videos are the new way.
	Documentaries can wake people up in 90 minutes.
	Or at least put something in their brain in 90 minutes.
	Think about that.
	90 minutes!
	Doesn't even take a day.
	So that's why I want to encourage people to get these films, get Endgame, and hold a screening.
	Let's do this thing.
	That's the only way that things are going to change.
	Everybody always complains to me, too, that we don't have a solution.
	Well, I keep telling you the solution.
	The solution Is to educate people, get them to stop their sloth-like behavior, sitting on a couch, drinking Jenny Light at 1 in the afternoon, and watching golf.
	Yeah, cause you know, Tiger Woods and the PGA Tour is so damn important.
	We were actually all out to, uh, all out to dinner.
	Or lunch, in between there somewhere.
	Um, Rob, Aaron, myself, and Alex.
	And we're all just sitting there eating and then all of a sudden the place erupts and of course it's when Tiger Woods puts that ball in the hole.
	Everybody wants to see the ball go in the hole.
	That's the problem.
	You know what I want to see?
	I want to see people motivated enough to go become a city council member.
	Run for Congress.
	You know?
	Let's do it.
	Let's not only become, you know, the government, let's become the mainstream media.
	I see a lot of people doing that.
	You know, it's alternative media now.
	But again, Alex is starting a network and we're going to need 24 hours of content a day on that network.
	And I see people in We Are Change, and again, we're going to have people from We Are Change Vancouver and We Are Change LA on.
	I see what they're doing.
	They're doing it up.
	You know, they're confronting the politicians.
	They're becoming the media.
	And student scholars recently put up a video again with a John Edwards of Bilderberg, I'll probably play that in the next segment, where he talks about how he did give a speech there, and then they ask him about the vice presidency.
	He's like, oh, I wasn't the vice presidential candidate yet.
	And he walks away.
	But this is how we're going to get it done.
	We're going to become the media.
	It's the Alex Jones Show.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		It's the Alex Jones Show.
		I'm Jason Bermas.
		I'll be sitting in all week.
		And we do have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on the line.
		And he has a new article out there called Elect Obama or Fall into Tyranny.
		And I don't think we've had him on the program since Hillary has conceded and Obama will be the nominee for the Democrats.
		I thank him for coming on.
		Paul, how are you doing?
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I'm very well.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you tell us a little bit about this article you wrote?
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's see, Jason.
		If I remember it, I pointed out the two great big strikes against Obama, one that he's groveling before the Israel lobby and would not represent any change in our warmonger policies in the Middle East.
		And second, that his economic advisors are leading apologists for offshoring, which is destroying the careers and livelihoods of millions of Americans, and essentially putting tremendous pressure on the U.S. dollar.
		And I said that given those black marks, he didn't look very good, and so why should anybody vote for him?
		And the answer I gave was that the Republican Party has morphed into a brownshirt party.
		It's just as bad on the same issues.
		But they're also committed, the Republican Party is committed, to elevating the power of the executive branch, the presidency, above the other branches, indeed above the Constitution, and that if A Republican was elected after the eight-year experience that we've had with Republicans.
		It would remove the public's verdict on the misdeeds and criminal actions of the Republican Party.
		It would sort of be a justification for their policy of turning the Presidency into some sort of a semi-dictatorship.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		But you don't feel like that's going to happen with the Democrats?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm not quite as confident.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think that would happen with the Democrats because there's a huge difference, always in my lifetime, between the Democrats and the Republicans on civil liberties.
		Democratic appointees to the federal courts and the Supreme Court were always big defenders of civil liberties.
		Sometimes they went far too far and created new liberties that weren't in the Constitution, such as the right of abortion and things like that.
		But the Republicans have always seen civil liberty as coddling devices for criminals.
		Now civil liberty is a coddling device for terrorists.
		And they simply oppose civil liberties.
		Have you seen any Republican other than Ron Paul defend habeas corpus or defend the U.S. statutory law against this rogue administration?
		I mean, we've had Bush admit that he violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, he's violated the U.S. statutory law against torture.
		As well as the International Laws Against Torture, to which we're signatory.
		We had a Bush Attorney General, Gonzalez, testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee that Americans aren't given the right of habeas corpus by the Constitution.
		So these people are just totally opposed to civil liberty, and that means they're committed to tyranny.
		And that, I think, is the essential difference.
		In the parties.
		In every other respect, George Wallace was right 40 years ago when he said there's not a dime's worth of difference.
		But if you look at the court appointees, you may remember the Brennan court, and Thurgood Marshall.
		All these people were very much defenders of civil liberty.
		Not a single Republican on the court is.
		So that's my summation of what's at stake.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha. On the other side, I want to get your take on Kucinich introducing 35 articles of impeachment and who you think Obama's running mate is going to be.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, we are back with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
		And, uh, last week, Dennis Kucinich introduced 35 articles of impeachment against the President and his administration, including illegal wiretapping of U.S. American citizens, illegal torture, and even two regarding 9-11, obstruction of justice before 9-11, and then obstruction of the actual investigation, aka the 9-11 Commission.
		Afterwards, I'd kind of like to get your take on the importance of this.
		He's saying that if, uh, Yes, I watched some of it.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		I did read the transcript and the articles.
		I think that Kucinich is an American hero.
		He's almost the only member of Congress.
		I guess we could count Ron Paul.
		What's so frustrating and disturbing is the cowardice of the Democratic Party to act.
		I mean, we've never had such a criminal regime, ever.
		I mean, these Republican brownshirts, they write with the worst that the world has ever seen.
		They're war criminals, they're liars, they're schemers.
		They have violated statutory law, the Constitution.
		They have no respect for public opinion, or for treaties, or for the power of Congress and the courts.
		So, why they're not impeached?
		It's just an amazing thing.
		If you can impeach Nixon for, or, you know, force him out by threatening impeachment, Nixon, who all he did was lie about when he learned about a burglary that he had no role in.
		Clinton, for a bit of hanky-panky in the Oval Office.
		How come Bush can get away with these things?
		Why is it that it's only Kucinich who sees what's at stake?
		If we let these people get away with this, then we are forever altered.
		All the kinds of It's like Caesar crossing the Rubicon.
		I mean, the whole structure of Roman government was henceforth different for all times, and it just gradually fell into more and more tyranny.
		And that's what happens when you don't hold your government accountable.
		So, I think that, uh, Kucinich is a hero, and, um, um, I think that, uh, in a way, he's basically dramatizing The collapse of American liberty.
		The fact that nothing is being done to hold the criminal regime accountable.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		One of my greatest fears is if we don't hold them accountable, especially from within.
		A lot of people talk about international tribunals.
		I think that's not the way to go.
		If we don't do this from within, restore our Bill of Rights and Constitution, I fear like we're going to go down in history as the next Nazi regime throughout the world.
		And that really scares me.
		Because most people just aren't awake to any of this.
		They don't read.
		They watch tabloid journalism.
		They care about, you know, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, all this nonsense.
		And serious geopolitical ramifications are going to happen for this country, you know, if this kind of thing continues.
		I mean, I don't know if you saw the news over the weekend that this prison in Afghanistan had been attacked.
		A thousand militants supposedly escaped, 400 of them Taliban.
		By Monday, CNN is reporting that I don't know who you would select as running
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		mate. It would be wonderful if he would do something, you know, innovative.
		I mean, what if he chose Ron Paul or that Republican senator from the Midwest who's resigned, who's opposed to the war and is resigning.
		What's his name?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Which one?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I'm not quite sure.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		I keep trying to say Hagel, but it's not Hagel.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		No. Well, how do you feel about the meeting he had with Hillary?
		I mean, I don't know if you've seen the video of this either, But the entire press corps gets on a plane.
		They think he's going back to Chicago, but really he's meeting with Hillary somewhere in northern Virginia.
		And they're all asking questions about it.
		And this guy, his press guy, is saying, well, he wanted to have some meetings with some people, you know, several meetings in private.
		And this just happens to be in the same place at the same time that Bilderberg rolls in.
		You know, with people like Condoleezza Rice, Paul Wolfowitz is there, Bernanke, Well, it wouldn't matter.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		You know, I think all of us focus on these groups, like Bilderberger and Trilateral and Council on Foreign Relations and the Davos Group.
		I mean, there's just so many groups, and I'm sure some of them have some influence, but they don't have anything like the influence of the establishments of the two political parties here, or the influence of the Israel lobby, or, for that matter, of Wall Street over the economy.
		So the threat to us is, I think, where Alex Jones, who does an enormous amount of important work, where he goes wrong is, Emphasizing so much these extraneous outside groups.
		The danger is in Washington, in the two political establishments.
		They're the ones who can take away our civil liberties, who have the power to tax and go to war and all that stuff.
		So that's where the problem is.
		I think if Obama meets with Hillary, he's probably trying to feel them out and see can he still have their support in the election without choosing her Yes.
		his running mate.
		This is always the problem in American politics.
		When you beat somebody, there's tremendous pressure on you to take them as your mate. On Ronald Reagan, he had to take George Bush.
		You see what I'm saying?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		No, I know, and that was something he did not want to do.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		But they told him, well, don't you remember Goldwater?
		Goldwater beat Rockefeller.
		He didn't take Rockefeller, and they destroyed him.
		The Republicans turned on him, and so I think Obama is worried about all the angry women because Hillary lost, and the women for Hillary, and he wants to get their support, and Hillary's probably saying, well, you know, I don't know what she's saying, whether she's saying she wants to be on the court, or she wants to be Vice President, or she wants her bills paid off, but some deal is being made.
		And that's normal and natural.
		I don't think Hillary would help Obama.
		I think all the people that are against her simply wouldn't vote for him.
		I doubt they'd vote for McCain either.
		So I think it would cost him a lot of votes.
		Probably as many if not more than he would gain from the angry women who want Hillary.
		Those are political decisions.
		He'll listen to all kinds of advisors who will have different views, and if they make the right decision, it'll be a miracle.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think they're going to make the right decision.
		I've always said that it'll probably be, even before Obama was the candidate, a Hillary-Obama or Obama-Hillary ticket, but then if they didn't choose one of those, I was thinking Edwards is really the establishment guy.
		He's the guy they've put forth before.
		You know, he's a good-looking Southerner, can relate to people.
		People seem to like him as the runner-up.
		Who knows, I could be wrong, but I see it either as Hillary I don't know.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		It's hard because of the Israel lobby.
		Well, it's like Admiral Morrow said those years ago, that no American president can stand up to Israel.
		But I do, you know, as I said earlier in our talk, Jason, the real concern is that the Republicans have morphed into a brown shirt party.
		They are committed to tyranny in America.
		Tyranny meaning executive power, ubalus, that the president is the Final and supreme power, and the other powers are somehow something to be negotiated with occasionally, but not taken too seriously.
		And so, this is what's at stake.
		It's more important than the war, or the oil companies, or even than the destruction of the American economy, because if we destroy liberty, then we're gone forever.
		There's no comeback, and I think that's what the Republicans are doing.
		You know, the Federalist Society, Republican lawyers, from which come all the Republican court nominees, all the Justice Department nominees, all the staffers to the Judiciary Committees for the Republicans, these people are committed to elevating the power of the presidency beyond the office that's spelled out in the Constitution.
		So they are a threat.
		In a way that goes beyond Iraq or Iran or Israel or the oil companies or anything else.
		So that is where I think we have to stay focused.
		I don't think Obama is anything like that or that the Democrats are.
		So I think we're safer with retaining liberty with Obama and the Democrats and that that should be our primary I'd love to see Obama do something really innovative and go choose Ron Paul or choose somebody that would throw some confusion into the Republican Party.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would take a few.
		I mean, I would take a few candidates.
		I mean, Dennis Kucinich.
		I know Cynthia McKinney's running as the Green Party, but I like her.
		Obviously, Ron Paul.
		Ron Paul just started Campaign for Liberty, which is supposedly going to be focusing on getting people into local government and to run for Congress.
		Well, Bob Barr.
		He could take Bob Barr.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		That would be a great thing.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		It would just sort of show that he's trying to break the mold of the two-party control.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've got to tell you, you were talking about how the Republicans have really put the president above the law, and I feel like that's been done with the Patriot Acts 1 and 2, parts of 3, but really with the Military Commissions Act.
		But we did just have a Supreme Court ruling that said that habeas corpus does exist.
		It was a 5-4 vote, and McCain was disgusted with the ruling.
		People like Newt Gingrich came out and said, now we're going to have to lose an American city.
		It wouldn't matter if you trusted him or not to do that.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		But if you get McCain, you're gonna get the 5th Republican on the Supreme Court, and then the rulings are going to go the other way.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So you're just saying just more terrible legislation will be passed that's even more incomprehensible than...
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I don't think so.
		I think that the Democrats are much more likely to take civil liberties seriously and to provide a defense of them.
		They always have.
		They have always.
		And the Republicans, as I said earlier, Simply regard civil liberties as coddling devices for bad people.
		Somehow it lets the bad people get away with things.
		It lets terrorists get away.
		It lets criminals get away.
		So that is their mindset.
		And that is the danger to liberty.
		For all the failings of the Democrats and all the corruptions and cowardice, I think we could count on them.
		On the civil liberty front, particularly if it's their president.
		I mean, they're likely to be a majority in the Congress as well.
		And I think you would see pressures to repeal some of Bush's executive orders and presidential directives because they are tyrannical and there's no reason for them.
		So I think you would see, you know, most of the civil liberties groups are democratic.
		In fact, all of them are.
		And I just think they would be pushing hard on that.
		They would lobby for that.
		That's part of the constituency.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you shoot out the website where they can find all this information?
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		Which website?
		Your website.
		Listen, I don't have a website.
		I recently wrote about this subject that we're talking about, and it was on Counterpunch the other day, or Information Clearinghouse, or Op-Ed News.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I do read a lot of your pieces.
		I mean, they are interesting stuff, and obviously you're an insider from many years back.
		I just feel like you're too optimistic with the Democrats.
		Just like you said, I mean, Kucinich goes on, you know, the House floor for over three hours, lays out a total criminal case against this administration from start to finish, and I think I read that 24 Republicans had backed it, and I don't know how many Democrats, and I just feel like Well, Jason, you're too young to know and you haven't served in Washington, but what they're doing is making political calculations.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		And they're saying, look, Bush is finished.
		He's on his way out.
		We're rid of him anyhow.
		And we start all this.
		We don't know how the neocon press is going to play it.
		We don't know where the American people are going to feel like.
		We're attacking a wartime president and are somehow being unpatriotic and giving comfort to Al Qaeda or Iran or whoever they're worried about.
		So the Democrats are just playing it safe.
		They're saying, we want to win.
		The cost to us of impeaching him may be too high.
		Since we're rid of him anyhow, and once we're rid of him, we can still hold investigations and ask about these things and put out reports and just slowly damn him and damn him and damn him until he's really had a worse treatment than impeachment.
		So I would imagine that that's what's in their mind, that they're simply saying they're over Yes.
		them winning the election and undervaluing the public perception worldwide of them holding Bush accountable and saying we won't stand for this, this is a breach of our system and you're paying the price.
		So I think I agree with you that they should value that more and their chances less.
		On the other hand if they lose the election from From going after a wartime president, making Americans think that they have sympathies with terrorists and all that stuff.
		You know what all Fox News and everybody will say.
		They'll say this is, these Democrats are in league with Bin Laden.
		That's what you'll hear every day.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		All day long.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		From Hannity, O'Reilly.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well Bush is making one last charge to try to get Bin Laden, apparently, before his presidency is over.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		Well, it won't matter if they get him or not.
		He's irrelevant at this point.
		Propaganda. It'll help them maybe, but...
		So I think the Democrats are saying, you know, if they get back in, uh, who is it that's so old on the court now?
		Stevens, isn't it?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
paul craig roberts ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so, okay.
		So then they come up with another Federalist Society member.
		And then they have a majority.
		Then, when they Set aside habeas corpus, the court upholds them, and then the whole thing is over.
		So the stakes are very high, Jason.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, thank you so much for spending this time with us.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks, we're back at the Alex Jones Show.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to thank Paul Craig Roberts for coming on.
unidentified		I gotta tell you, I disagree just a little bit.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I really, you know, I listen to him a lot, and I read a lot of his counterpunch stuff, and I just don't think the Democrats are gonna be that good for us.
		I think it's always a soft tyranny, which I guess might be a little better.
		I mean, Clinton definitely had me fooled while he was in office, at least.
		But I don't know if I want that somebody, you know, who's slicker, Who's not going to let all these, you know, terrible things come out?
		Maybe that's just me.
		I kind of like having, you know, somebody who's so transparent as Bush.
		We all know Bush doesn't run the country.
		I mean, I wish we had talked about that, but I'm sure we agree that, you know, it's more of his administration.
		He's just a puppet front.
		All right, let's start shooting through some calls.
		Let's take Charles in Louisiana.
		Charles, are you with us?
unidentified		How you doing?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Good, man.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Fine. Listen, that guy there, that's part of the trouble.
		A Democrat, Republican.
		You can't take a system that's broke to fix it.
		Democrat and Republican are the same way.
		I don't know where he's coming from, but he confuses things.
		But anyway, I want to thank you for what you're doing.
		And I want to say this.
		Just a few people, they're willing to spread the truth.
		I used to blame the politicians for all our mistakes and our misery and taxes.
		But it's not the politicians' fault.
		It's the American people's fault.
		You know what I mean?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, obviously, you know, there are some that believe that we get the government we deserve, and there is an element that it is our fault.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		We have become, you know, fluoridated zombies that only care about, you know, our beer, our car, our home, and our sports team, maybe our kids sometimes.
unidentified		Our kids, we raised them, the little girls, almost like, well, really, they're crampy at nine years old.
		The boys are usually on Prozac.
		The old man, he loves to look at a guy running 66 with a ball, football, and beer.
		I mean, that's what America's about.
		In America, these people are toast.
		They toast.
		And they haven't seen the bad side of life yet.
		They're not going to get out and give these tapes out, sir.
		They're too proud.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		They're too proud.
		I hope that that pride goes away, because you know what?
		Being one of the guys that created the loose change, I've seen it.
		I've seen people hand out.
unidentified		It's one of my favorite tapes I gave out.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, and you did that.
unidentified		I gave out 1,100 copies.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, and I have so many stories of that, so I do believe that we can make the difference.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		We can wake people up, and it won't be everybody, Charles.
unidentified		Yeah, but the American people, let me explain something to you.
		This is like the people on Idaho.
		When pain hits them, then they want to do something.
		But here's two solutions to the problem, and it's two problems.
		We took God out of school, out of the courtrooms, and we want God to defend us, but we won't defend God.
		And if we don't do it with God, you got to do it with a gun, like our forefathers said.
		And American people ain't got the guts to stand up for God.
		They ain't got the guts to stand up for their country.
		They don't have the guts to stand up for themselves.
		I was in New Orleans for Katrina.
		And if you would have seen the disgust, the soldiers, I lost respect for our soldiers so bad that it made me sick in my stomach.
		I actually puked the next day thinking about it.
		What they did to these women was thirsty.
		The soldiers that we're supposed to respect, the one in Iraq and all that, they are animals, sir.
		They are animals.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Some of them have gotten out of hand, and yeah, we should show that picture.
unidentified		They had a cop pull a woman over and got back in the corner right up here.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a horrible story, Charles.
unidentified		Thank you for the call.
unidentified		Yeah, well it is, but you don't hear anybody say anything about it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		No, well, you know what?
		I would point you towards Spike Lee's documentary.
		It's pretty hardcore.
		When the levee's broke, it's four parts.
		Thank you for the call, Charles.
		We're going to take other calls on the other side.
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		That call from Charles was rough.
		And I know Charles is a long-time listener.
		I've heard him many a time on the show and, you know, I want to think the best of my soldiers most of the time, but I know people are people, man.
		And unfortunately, sometimes people aren't the greatest.
		We all have the capacity for good and evil.
		Let's go to the person who disagrees.
		He goes to the headline.
		Let's go to Scott in Arizona.
		Scott, what's up?
unidentified		Hey, Jason.
		I'm a long-time listener of Alex Jones as well, and I was just listening to Dr. Craig Roberts, and I agree with him on an issue, and the issue, I believe, is that Dennis Kucinich is in the firing pen right now.
		He's the only one in there sticking up for our civil liberties.
		I think, though, the movement should stand behind him, since we actually have a congressman in there sticking up for our country and our rights, and I think we should be backing him.
		At least the people side of it.
		And then the, you know, the news will pick up on it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if the news is going to pick up on it, man.
unidentified		I think we are, depending on how much we do it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You know, I want to believe that, man, but geez, I mean, they just black out so much.
		I mean, they blacked out this Dice thing.
		They didn't report on Kucinich till like the day after and they barely did.
		I'm not seeing anybody discussing it on any of these political arena talk shows.
		What's it going to take?
		I mean, What are we going to do, get 500 people outside the Capitol building?
		I mean, you tell me.
unidentified		I mean, you've got to move when you have your shot.
		And right now we have a real true shot at it.
		We've got a guy in there that's actually going after, you know, we need to support him on those issues.
		We don't have to support the Democratic Party.
		We need to support him on those issues because he's fighting for our civil liberties.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm with you there.
		I'm with you 100% there.
		I mean, like you said, if they don't take action, he's going to do 60 articles of impeachment, and I think that's what we wait for.
		I mean, you know, I hate to wait more, but if they don't do anything with this legislation, I would love to see him stand on the House floor for eight hours and go through 60 articles of impeachment.
		I mean, I don't know what it's going to take to wake people up.
		I was on this as soon as someone told me.
		I taped it.
		Obviously, we got him on the radio.
		I think people should support him.
		I think they should call their congressman, their representative in their district, and tell them to support Mr. Kucinich.
		I'm all for that.
		Maybe you should, you know, create a website.
		A quick one, you know?
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, after hearing him talk, I thought he was right on the money with that.
		At least in that part of it, because if we get in there and start supporting him, and he starts to feel that he's got some backing from the American people, it'll make a huge difference.
		It might pick up like the Ron Paul thing, because we actually got another congressman in there going against, you know, the institution, and I think that's a major plus right there.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I'm with you, Scott.
		Thank you for the call, and I'd just like to point out that Kucinich said on several occasions he would love to run with Ron Paul, you know?
		They, uh, they're buddies down there.
		They know a lot of what's going on.
		All right, let's go to Lance in Missouri.
		Lance, you with us?
unidentified		Yes, I am.
		How you doing, Jason?
		I got a job this week.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Awesome, thanks.
unidentified		I wanted to disagree with what Paul Craig Roberts had to say.
		I don't believe Barack Obama is a very good choice at all.
		You know, one thing is his coziness with Zbigniew Brzezinski.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		That's a big thing right there.
		And you know what?
		I don't think that he's Promoting him say but he really just thinks that Republicans are just so evil in which they are a lot of them are But he just I don't know.
		He can't get around it man.
		We're gonna hold you over.
		Yeah, I'm with you Not only is he cozied up to zig new but I think there's more going on at that Bilderberg I'm eating then Paul Craig Roberts knows about and on top of that look Jim Johnson Was there and he was the guy who was supposed to choose his running mate.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks, we are back.
		It's the Alex Jones Show.
		I'm Jason Burmas, and if you want to get at me, it's pretty easy to do.
		MySpace.com slash Jason Burmas, B-E-R-M-A-S.
		I do read the IMs, the comments, everything.
		In fact, one of the stories I'm going to go over is a U.S. school district to begin microchipping students' bags.
		It's real good stuff.
		We're going to get into that after we talk this Obama thing.
		But yeah, I mean, Zygmunt Brzezinski's on the team.
		Johnson, Jim Johnson, who's a member of Bilderberg, was on the team.
		He meets with Hillary in the same locale as the Bilderberg group, undoubtedly with members of the Bilderberg group.
		I think he's a real threat, too, Lance.
unidentified		I think there's any doubt about it.
		I mean, I really appreciate a lot of Paul Craig Roberts' analysis, but in this case, there's no doubt about it.
		I mean, we talk a lot about problem-reaction-solution, and Zbigniew Brzezinski is part of the problem.
		He bragged about helping radicalize Islam and create the Mujahideen back under Jimmy Carter.
		There was a 1997 interview with him in a French magazine, I think it's called the Nouvelle Observatoire.
		And as big new Brzezinski brags about starting Mujahideen, of course, that was before 9-11 when he thought it was safe to brag that way.
		Part of why I was calling in today, Jason, is to let you know I think you're on the right track with energizing everybody to just frankly take matters into their own hands and run for local and state offices around the country.
		That's the only thing we can do.
		You know, like Charles called in earlier, I've been a long-time listener myself as well, and I've heard him call in and talk about handing out a lot of DVDs and videos, and that's essential work.
		But people don't really want to hear about soldiers committing war crimes non-stop.
		Most people in our society, I think, just want to be left alone.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		Well, they don't want to have to think.
		They want to be able to just sit back and relax, but a movie You know, in a short period of time, can turn somebody on to this.
unidentified		Absolutely. And people need to be woken up that way.
		I mean, I guess, you know, I kind of shy away from the term waking up or waking people up.
		I think, you know, people are awake already.
		They're just not paying attention to political issues.
		And I don't think that's peculiar to America necessarily.
		I think that's worldwide.
		Just people generally just want to be left alone and want to just pursue their own interests.
		Unfortunately, I think in this country, we're in a position where we're not, we don't have that luxury anymore.
		We can't, we can't afford to just sit back and Let other people run the business of our government.
		Because like Plato said, the price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		That's absolutely right, man.
unidentified		We've all got to take it on our own responsibility.
		I want to kind of plug my own campaign.
		I, in February this year, drove down to Jefferson City, Missouri and filed to be on the ballot as a state representative.
		You have a website?
		LanceWeber.com.
		L-A-N-C-E-W-E-B-E-R.com.
		Alright. My name's Lance Weber.
		I'm running in Kansas City, Missouri for a state in the Missouri House of Representatives.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, all you listeners out in Missouri, let's support Lance.
		I thank you for the call.
		I mean, he's called in a couple times.
		He's got great points, and he's not about the right or left.
		He's about right and wrong, and that's what we need to be about, you know?
		He's right.
		Again, we need to become local government.
		We need to become the congressman.
		We need Yes, I am.
		How you doing, Jason?
unidentified		I was calling because I wanted to tell you about...
		You know, you ever hear of PennDOT?
		Pennsylvania Department of Motor Vehicles?
		Okay, well, they're actually doing...
		Real ID program.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's lovely.
unidentified		It was on my news yesterday, local news.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And it's going to be integrated into the new license?
unidentified		Yes, it is.
		And I actually called them up.
		I spoke to five different people.
		Nobody would answer my questions.
		Nobody would talk to me.
		I actually called the news station and they're actually telling me that they're taking people's information without rights or consent.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		You need to go to the next city council meeting, man.
		I mean, getting on a radio show like this and letting people know, I mean, obviously we have a few listeners out in Pennsylvania, a few of the callers have been from there, but you've got to take it upon yourself.
		You know, this is it.
		Listen, get like seven to ten people.
		You better believe it, because they've been trying to install this now for the better part of this decade, okay?
		Since 2000, they've really wanted to do this.
		Obviously, 9-11 was a big push, and now they're starting to implement it.
		All right, well look at this story.
		Let's talk about this really quick.
		U.S. school district, this is out in Rhode Island, okay, is now chipping students.
		They're putting them in their bags so that they can track them everywhere.
		They're getting us used to this.
		I mean...
unidentified		Well, I mean, I could see it all around me.
		Yeah. I mean, I don't know who can't see it.
		I mean, it's all around you and people, you know, just see it on...
		I mean, I can't believe the local news even covered it to begin with.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		They gotta tell us sometime.
		And they just try to put a positive spin on it.
		I thank you for the call.
		Let's jump to another Pennsylvania caller.
		Let's go to Rob in Pennsylvania.
		Rob, are you with us?
unidentified		Yes, I am.
		Thanks for taking my call.
		Sure. I wanted to call and talk about the call with Mike Reagan.
		There was like at least five points I got of things that he was saying that utterly appalled me.
		The first of which is he basically admits In that interview, agreeing that Operation Northwood is an actual legitimate document, and he also agrees that the Gulf of Tonkin was set up by us, but his argument is, well, it was done by Democratic administration.
		I mean, I find it appalling, even if he believes that, right?
		And even if he doesn't believe 9-11 was an inside job, how can he not report on this?
		I've heard this man talk about Jimmy Carter and FDR threw things back to that long ago, but he doesn't find this noteworthy?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I mean, to me it's just- Well, he's an op, dude.
		You know, come on.
		He's an op.
		He's a neocon op.
		He gets talking points like the other little neocon ops.
		You shouldn't be surprised when it comes out that he's also on some sort of a federal or government payroll.
		They probably kick him, you know, another hundred, two hundred grand a year to just promote their propaganda, man.
		I mean, let's- this is Reagan's kid.
		Okay, I know it's not his blood kid, but it's Reagan's son.
		You know, I can only imagine the connections this guy's made, and of course he's got to be limited hangout because, you know, again, he probably has talked about the CFR and the Builder Group before, just like Limbaugh used to talk about it.
		You know, it was an accepted thing to talk about, but as soon as it started shifting from, you know, because if you remember, Jones actually promoted Buchanan, you know, gave to his campaign back then.
		People were still fooled into this false left-right paradigm.
		But with the attacks of 9-11, with the cover-up on both ends, more and more people are realizing it doesn't matter whether you're Democrat or Republican.
		I mean, obviously, Paul Craig Roberts still has a long way to go there.
		He still thinks the Democrats are.
		Yeah, I agree 100%.
unidentified		I just think that the absurdity of being able to boldface tell All the, what, supposedly 5 million listeners that he has every night?
		Yeah, I agree that this stuff happens, but I don't think that this is worthy news.
		I mean, it's just a joke.
		And I would encourage anyone out there that if you ever do happen to stumble upon these shows, just to listen to things like that.
		They think that the American public aren't worth reporting this information to.
		Disgusting, and they'll accuse us of not being patriots yet.
		I mean, honestly, how could you consider yourself a patriot when you have 5 million people in your audience, and you utterly believe that the Gulf of Tonkin was set up by the United States, and you never report it?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, he likes sleeping on his big bed of money, man.
		Thanks, Rob, for the phone call.
		But yeah, I mean, he's kicking back in a king-size bed, probably has a good-looking wife, big screen, television.
		He's living in the lap of luxury like he always has been.
		Like I said, he's a spoiled rich kid.
		And he's not in reality.
		He gets talking points.
		He works for them.
		That's the bottom line.
		Let's go to Derek in Texas.
		Derek, are you with us?
unidentified		I'm with you, Jason.
		Hey, there needs to be more people like you in radio and less people like Mike Reagan, in my opinion.
		You're doing a really good job.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, man.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, these guys, these guys, you know, you know, what kills me about these guys is they've got the crazy Absolutely, and I want to encourage Alex Jones' audience to call these neocon shows.
unidentified		Get by the screener and let them have the truth to wake these audiences up, because each one of these audiences are a couple million a week, and that's work we need to do.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolutely.
unidentified		Just to let you know, I'm a member of AE911Truth.org, and I appreciate Richard Gage and your work.
		You guys have done fantastic.
		And I would like to issue an edict to all the engineering undergrads.
		You know, when I was going to school, 9-11 happened, and I'm a structural engineer.
		And the comment that got made to me by my professors who had PhDs in the subject was, huh, looks like they figured out a new way to perform a controlled demolition.
		And the chatter that was going around was like, well, why don't they just, you know, swing a ball into the top of the building and set a fire, then wait an hour and it just comes tumbling down.
		I mean, it was just ridiculous to us at the time, but really it wasn't until Alex a couple years later to where I saw everything.
		And man, just keep going.
		I mean, you guys are doing fantastic.
		Sooner or later, this is going to be out.
		These people in this neocon administration are going to be judged harshly because history will view you, Jason, and Alex, and the other guys as the ones to turn everything around.
		I appreciate it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
		That is a great organization.
		Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth really give us a huge amount of validity.
		Right now, if you're an architect or an engineer and you're not a part of this organization, we need you more than ever.
		Richard Gage is trying to get a thousand people to sign up before September 11th, and he's looming somewhere around the 400 mark.
		Now that means we need 600 more of you guys.
		If you know somebody who knows this information, encourage them to speak up.
		Alright? Don't hide in the shadows.
		If we hide in the shadows, there'll be no shadows to hide in, eventually.
		You can't run from this stuff forever.
		You gotta face it head on, and that's what I'm all about.
		Let's take one more caller before the next break.
		Let's go to James in Ohio.
		James, are you with us?
unidentified		How you doing, James?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Good, man.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		What's on your mind?
unidentified		I don't know if you remember, I talked to you a while ago.
		You had Jim Mars on.
		You were sitting in for Alex.
		Okay. And you guys were all on the law enforcement aspect of police state and stuff.
		Sure. I was the caller that spoke about getting egged in the side of the head and arrested for not giving my ID up.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that whole fiasco.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		How's that turning out for you right now?
unidentified		It was already resolved when I talked to you, I just didn't get a chance to finish the whole thing.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, well hold on, hold on, I'll pass the break and we'll go over how that was resolved.
		This guy was attacked and then of course the police arrest him.
		You know, that's how it goes in America.
		We're gonna come back on the other side.
		It's the Alex Jones Show, InfoWars.com.
unidentified		Yeah. Yeah.
unidentified		We'll see you next time.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, it's the Alex Jones Show.
		I am Jason Bermas.
		I'm going to be stepping in all week.
		I want to remind everybody to go out and get some of Alex's films, Endgame, Terror Storm, The Road to Tyranny, Martial Law, my films, Loose Change, American Freedom to Fascism, of course, another great movie.
		Make copies and hand them out, you know, that's how we're gonna we're gonna break down these minds We have James from Ohio on the line and he got attacked by some egging Some probably vandals and he calls it in and he's the one who ends up getting arrested.
		How did that all turn out James?
unidentified		well, basically I got charged with causing alarm and annoyance to others because I Told the cop that I felt I was the victim.
		What do you need my driver's license for and He charged me with it.
		No, they didn't.
		They arrested me and took me to the station, but they didn't take me to the jail.
		They just tried to figure out what charges to give me.
		Then, once they gave me one, they let me go, and then I had to go to court.
		When I got to court, I pretty much, I talked to an attorney friend, and he said, you know, this is bogus.
		Just plead no contest.
		Judge will see right through this.
		And the judge's response was, well, since 9-11, officer asked you your name, you better give it to him.
		So I'm going to give you a court cost and a $100 fine.
		I'm like, okay.
		So yeah, I never tried to pursue it after that.
		I just took it and whatever.
		But I do want to echo this sentiment you just gave with support and Alex.
		I recently got a membership to Prison Planet TV and it is, oh wow, it's just awesome.
		I recommend anybody listening to it for, I think it's like 15, 20 cents a day.
		If you can help fight this and support Alex, you really need to.
		But the reason I'm calling today is over the weekend, where I live here in Ohio, we had a tasering incident.
		Okay. And the reason I think that it really deserves to be put in the limelight is it was tasering of a juvenile.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		How old was the kid?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		15. And what did she do?
unidentified		She was, I guess, in A fight or a confrontation with another girl.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And the cops came and tased her for it?
unidentified		And she didn't stop.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		That's when the cop says, you can see the video at like WMFMJ channel 21. Listen, why don't you send me a link because I got to jump because I'm about to have We Are Change on, but send Aaron Infowars a link and we'll try to post the video.
		Thanks for the call, James.
		Let's take another couple callers before we go to We Are Change Vancouver and discuss the incident.
		Uh, with Colin Powell.
		Let's go to Brian in New York.
		Brian, what's up?
		Hello? Hey, how you doing, Brian?
unidentified		Good, how are you?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Good, man.
unidentified		Um, I was, uh, gonna call about, um, Mark Deuss was sending the, uh, DVDs...
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		...
		to soldiers.
		Well, if you have a MySpace account, you can go into search...
		Mm-hmm.
		...
		and change the country to Iraq...
		Mm-hmm.
		...
		and you'll get about, I don't know, thousands of, um, troops have a MySpace.
		Yep. And you can put it in there.
		You can become friends with them, or you can just put...
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Great idea!
		And you can just embed videos right there.
		Absolutely. And I hope that people do it in a respectful manner.
		I think that the mailing thing, though, is just a little bit more personal.
		Yeah. And it lets you get an in with, you know, some kind of food product, or maybe you do have the money to, you know, buy a DVD player.
		Maybe you do have the money to kick them, you know, an actual DVD of something else or a hard, hard copy.
		But, yeah, that's another great way to get it, people.
		And just do it respectfully.
		Just be like, look, man, you know, I just hope that you're aware that this stuff is going on and this this has nothing to do with you.
		I just hope this helps you make a better, more informed decision.
unidentified		And Can I bring up another point?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Sure, go ahead.
unidentified		What do you think the probability of...
unidentified		Was it Flight 77 that crashed in Chinxil?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		That was Flight 93.
		93. And I got to tell you, there is no chance whatsoever that that plane was downed in that open field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
		There's a possibility that something was shot down over that area, possibly.
		But the majority of it didn't crash in that open field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
		If that is the case, I have no idea where that plane actually is if it wasn't the one that was shot down over it.
		You know, again, they're following Flight 93.
		They're also following a phantom flight at the same exact time.
		You know, it's unbelievable.
		They were following Delta 8 1989 at the same time that supposedly had bombs on board.
		They had hijackings coming in out of Canada.
		Later on, they had hijackings coming in out of out of Alaska, I believe, with Korean Airlines.
		So, I mean, I'm not convinced at all.
		I didn't see a piece of an engine.
		I didn't see a piece of a tail section, a wing section.
		I didn't see bodies.
		I didn't see luggage.
		I didn't see a plane crash, okay?
		I had to wait four and a half years to see two pieces of fuselage and a A red headband that was untouched that supposedly the hijackers wore.
		And you can watch that all for free at LooseChange911.com.
		They got the link to the movie.
		I mean, you can check it out on video.google.com.
		We'll be back with We Are Change Vancouver.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back.
		It's the Alex Jones Show.
		I am Jason Bermas.
		I'll be in all week.
		And we have Travis from We Are Change Vancouver on the line.
		Travis, are you with us?
unidentified		I'm with you, Jason.
		With you in total solidarity, my brother.
		It's Travis from the land of the taser, home of the slave here in fascist Vancouver, B.C. Otherwise known as DJ Ball.
		We've talked before, Mr. Burmuth, and it's a pleasure.
		Thanks for having me back on the show, my brother.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Hey, no problem, man.
		So why don't you just fill people in on the situation with Colin Powell yet again.
		We're trying to become the media, we're trying to ask real questions, we're trying to make a difference in this country, and what happens?
unidentified		Well, I guess let's start off with Gail Davidson, who was from Lawyers Against War, a coalition of lawyers that tried to get Colin Powell inadmissible to Canada.
		Colin Powell, actually, the more I researched him in the past, the more disgusted and disturbed I got.
		Whether it was covering up the Miley Massacre, or trying to cover up the Miley Massacre in 1969, Whether it was in 91 fabricating 2,500 tanks with forged satellite imagery, whether it was the speech alive that he delivered, I mean, the list goes on and on, on and on, renditions played, torture that, you know, these are many strikes against the Geneva Convention.
		So anyway, Gail Davidson tried to get Powell basically not allowed into the country and petitioned our Immigration Minister, Diane Finley.
		Of course, we've got a conservative government now in Canada, led by a Manchurian candidate of a Prime Minister named Stephen Harper.
		That's a complete traitor to us.
		He signed on February 14th with no parliamentary oversight, a law allowing foreign troops on Canadian soil.
		So we've got our hands full up here.
		Anyway, the petition for lawyers against war went nowhere.
		The immigration minister didn't even basically let it happen.
		So anyway, we had Colin Powell come and talk about leadership.
		We bought tickets, four of our Change members, me, James Flack, my co-director, and Tosh, and Roxanna from Vancouver 9-11.
		We bought tickets to go inside, and these organizers have built the event as no question would be off-limits.
		So we thought this would be a great chance to ask Colin Powell about his stance on depleted uranium, which he is on the record.
		We at Change Ohio had confronted Powell.
		on view a while back and colin powell lied again like the other pinocchio powell lied again and said that he was completely safe and that he had been around a lot of life i mean it just takes a simple google search to look at what the effects of depleted uranium are in four and a half billion year shelf life to just realize that's absurd so anyway the question answer period goes on uh...
		attorney powell goes on and speaks about you know he recruited regurgitate the same lies about Man hiding out in caves and not giving up our freedoms, and yadda yadda yadda.
		Really boring to tell you the truth, Jason.
		While he was talking, I was text messaging our protesters that were outside bullhorning.
		We had Johnny Little, Patrick, Darren, Drew, a bunch of people from our group bullhorning the venue, and I was directing them through text message to get them closer, closer, closer.
		They were bullhorning the event, so we could hear the bullhorning inside the venue, which was absolutely amazing, and gave me the strength to get to the question-answer period.
		The question-answer period was a complete fraud.
		The organizers basically gave us cards when we entered the venue, and instead of no questions off-limits, you had to hand write down your questions on cards.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, isn't that freedom?
		Oh, they're going to decide.
		Everybody write down a question, and then we're going to choose the ones we like.
unidentified		Exactly. So get this, this is where it got absolutely absurd.
		So, question I think number two or three was general.
		iPhone or Blackberry?
		You know, who really gives a damn about that?
		I mean, come on.
		Then it went into question number four.
		General, now that the Stanley Cup playoffs are over, who are you going for?
		Lakers or Celtics?
		And that was enough.
		And you know that his staff totally loads up the questions, too.
		We don't give a damn about basketball up here.
		No one cares about the Lakers and Celtics.
		It's ridiculous.
		We want to know how he plans on staying out of the Hague.
		It's absolutely ridiculous.
		So yeah, I jumped up out of my seat in front of 1,500 Members of his fan club, Sheep.
		Just idiots to tell you the truth.
		People that had no idea of his history.
		And I yelled up at the top of my lungs.
		You know, I got a question.
		With all due respect, I got a question.
		I got a question.
		And the moderator talked over me.
		I tried to silence me.
		That's when James Flack, who's an absolutely...
		You know, we've just signed him on as the co-director with We Are Change Vancouver.
		He's an absolute patriot.
		Jumped up and he said, I got a question.
		Explain to me why the hell you're using depleted uranium and killing generations of future life.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they don't want the real questions, you know?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, he's a good guy!
unidentified		Stop! Yeah, exactly.
		And as soon as we jumped up and demanded, you know, ask some real questions, we had Vancouver Police Department all over us and escorted us out.
		When we got to the doors, there was another member of our group, a 50-year-old ballet teacher.
		I mean, this doesn't get any...
		This is just ridiculous.
		50-year-old ballet teacher by the name of Roxanna, who got up to ask a question as well.
		General, what about DU?
		And then she asked that, three more plainclothes got on her and actually physically bounced her at the door.
		The video is unbelievable.
		We've got it posted.
		But anyway, while this was going on, Jason, unbelievably on the outside, this is what's really messed up about this whole incident, is on the outside, we had hired out an independent freelance cameraman.
		A friend of mine from the film world, a friend that's got no political affiliations, a friend named Mike Barcelona, doesn't even know who Alex Jones is.
		I'd ask him to come out and just document the protest outside.
		He was like, sure, no problem.
		Get some protest footage on my reel, no problem.
		I'll help you out, Travis.
		So anyway, as we're getting bounced out of the venue, he's on the sidewalk outside of the Vancouver Convention Centre, a facility I believe that was paid by with taxpayer money, filming protesters.
		When he has one an officer Murdoch come over to him and said so it's right off the hot because you're going to jail and What Mike didn't know is that this officer Murdoch had told a couple people 50 feet away earlier that it's time to leave All right, so the cameraman didn't notice we have footage that shows Officer Murdoch looking at Mike and giving him a bit of a smear.
		So there's a couple things There's a series I have on why he went for a cameraman and arrested him.
		Michael Barcelona now has a court date for July 21st.
		What are they charging him with?
		They're charging him with assault by trespass, which is a charge.
		Our lawyer, Gail Davidson, who's been great and stepped up for us, said she's never even found a case of this being actually prosecuted.
		So they're just trying to smear him, get him in the system.
		They had him in jail for nine hours.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Bow down to our masters.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Don't resist.
unidentified		What was it?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Assault by trespass?
unidentified		Yeah, that's exactly right.
		Assault by trespass.
		It's just absolutely absurd.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So now you don't even have to hurt anybody physically.
		You don't even have to verbally assault somebody anymore.
		You just have to quote-unquote trespass, which could be anything from being on the wrong sidewalk at the wrong time at the wrong place, and you're now charged with assault by trespass.
		That's incredible to me.
unidentified		It's absolutely absurd, and this is Canada.
		Well, we're the land of the free.
		Yeah. Not likely.
		So anyway, yeah, well, this was just after this had all happened.
		Drew Noctil.
		Drew Noctil's got a...
		He's a great, great patriot.
		He's organizing something called the March on Ottawa 2008.com.
		You can go check out his website.
		Drew was on his way out of the venue afterwards, and he was followed by a Vancouver Police Department on his bicycle and stopped twice for not riding a helmet.
		The context of this, Jason, is that right around the corner, the lower east side of Vancouver is one of the most notorious drug spots in all of the world.
		Those guys have got needles hanging out of their arms.
		It's a terrible situation down there, but they're hassling, targeting and hassling peaceful protesters.
		So, you know, I have mixed emotions about how this whole thing went down, because almost the whole time the VPD were incredible.
		They were really good.
		They were letting us blow hole, blow, sorry, bullhorn.
		Yeah, you don't want to be in an earshot of Colin Powell,
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		a guy who's Basically propagated the murder of thousands of people and gets up there and smiles and plays the good cop.
		You know, and when he leaves the administration, oh, they were so bad.
		I'm not one of them.
		Yeah, right.
unidentified		He gets a war criminal.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, absolute war criminal.
unidentified		Absolute war criminal.
		Filthy belongs in jail.
		He belongs locked up along with the rest of the scumbags.
		You know what, Jason?
		I'm just sick and tired.
		Of these satanic, inbreded Pinocchios psychopaths that are messing up the planet right now.
		I'm sick of them.
		I know you're sick of them.
		Enough is enough with these guys.
		And you know what, people?
		They're not going to stop until everyone gets off their butts, stops being that keyboard warrior, and gets in the streets and do it peacefully.
		You know what?
		When this all went down, we had a lot of help.
		Just before I forget, Luke Rudowsky came through huge.
		Jim and Dave from Freedom Fighter Radio came through huge.
		They had people calling from all over the world.
		I'm calling the Vancouver Police Department switchboard and shut it down more or less to get our cameraman free.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Why don't you throw out your website right now?
		And I want to let people know because I also get, you know, emails from people all the time.
		What can I do?
		How do I get involved?
		How do I get involved?
		You go to wearechange.org and you see all the organizations that are set up there locally around the world and if there's not one of them where you are, you start it.
unidentified		Correct? That's exactly right.
		You don't even need an organization.
		You just need the courage.
		If we don't stand up now, Jason, we're going to be in rail cars getting loaded off the steamer camps.
		I mean, I never thought that would happen, but the more it is becoming apparent that these people aren't going to stop until we stop them.
		We are ChangeVancouver.org, guys.
		Please come to our website.
		Check out the video.
		There's a whole rundown of what went down.
		We have a little chip-in widget on our thing.
		If you can find it in your heart to throw in some coffee money in or chip in, we would like to raise a bit of money so that we can be a more effective fighting force for everybody's freedom.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely.
		These are the organizations that, you know, we need to promote.
		And We Are Change is the premier patriot organization in my eyes.
		They are the most active.
		You know, I love truthaction.org.
		I love lonelantern.org.
		But at the end of the day, These are the guys that are on the ground every single day, folks.
		I mean, they make news all week long from across the globe, whether it's Peter Power being confronted, you know, whether it's Michael Bloomberg being confronted, whether it's an actual parliament member attacking We Are Change.
		You know, it's We Are Change that are asking the tough questions and getting out there, man.
unidentified		That's exactly right, and they don't like real questions.
		You know what?
		We were abandoned by a press.
		We are changed as to step up because we are abandoned by a press and left to get fed on by this parasitic group of psychopaths.
		There is no real press anymore, and that's where we are changed as filling that void, Jason.
		That's basically our goal, is becoming the media, because there is no media.
		There's just a bunch of limp-wristed propagandists that have sold us all out.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm totally with you.
		Let's take some calls while you're still with us.
		Let's go to Tom in Texas.
		Tom, are you with us?
unidentified		I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoy the show, and I actually just discovered you guys yesterday, believe it or not.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, excellent.
		That's awesome, man.
		Yeah, where are you listening from?
		You're in Texas?
		Are you listening on FM?
unidentified		I'm actually on the internet, and I live in Dallas.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, excellent.
		Hey, you know what?
		I'm going to be coming out to Dallas.
		This is something I should be promoting.
		I'm going to be coming out to Dallas this weekend.
		There's a screening at, I think it's the Fort Worth Theater.
		If you go to 911blogger.com, All the info is there on my website loosechange911.com but it's at 8 p.m.
		It's at one of the big theaters in Dallas and I'm going to be speaking there.
		It's only five bucks.
		We're going to be showing Loose Change Final Cut and I'm going to be taking your questions afterwards.
		So, you know, you agree with me, you disagree with me, please come down.
		It should be a good event.
		I'm really looking forward to it and I can't believe you just found us.
		So what got you into this type of information, Tom?
unidentified		Well, you know, I've just, I've always been fairly independent as far as my ideas have always been a little more, I'd like to think, objective and freedom-oriented than most people.
		And I have a friend of mine who, he's really into objectivism.
		Are you familiar with that?
		Sure. He's really into that and he just, Talk to me about a lot of issues, and I started kind of getting interested in freedom-oriented stuff, and I started just doing searches on the internet.
		Awesome, man.
		Listen, unfortunately, it's still the greatest thing ever that's until they shut it down for us.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, until they bring an internet, too, and we're all controlled about our bandwidth and IP addresses, and we'll all have a little profile on it.
		Pure hell.
		Exactly. Yeah, pure tyranny.
		Thank you for the call, Tom.
		Tom, I hope you're still listening in.
		I hope that you check out Loose Change, Terror Storm, Endgame.
		This should be a whole new world for you if you just found us.
		Let's go to another caller.
		Remember, we're with Travis from We Are Change Vancouver.
		Let's go to Sean in California.
		Sean, are you with us?
		Sean, are you there?
		I guess he must have dropped.
		Let's jump to Fred in Philly.
		Fred, are you there?
unidentified		Hi. I want to bring up something that will be of interest to Travis, Paul Craig Roberts, and Jonathan, who was on yesterday.
		It's a little known fact, but it's really nailed down.
		There have been U.S. citizens that are of non-Arab background, have not committed a crime, who have been basically abducted and held in the example of one John in Atlanta for five and a half months without charges, in isolation, without access to outside communication, Or a lawyer.
		This is a little-known fact.
		There are some journalists that do not get play.
		James Brovard, who has his own news agency in the Washington, D.C. suburbs, knows at least a half a dozen cases of U.S. citizens having been treated this way.
		Georgia Homeland Security, Federal Homeland Security, and DeKalb County Security, or whatever they are.
		Well, Fred, do us a favor.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Email us these stories.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		We'd love to do a story on American citizens being detained.
unidentified		Let me just say that the only way he was able to get out was that a doctor said that she basically realized that he was never going to be released, a woman doctor, and she smuggled out a note, and then he was able to use habeas corpus.
unidentified		So it's happening to people who have no connection with the military.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Please send it out to Aaron at Infowars.com.
		I thank you for the call.
		It's not shocking to me that they're actually doing this, Travis.
		I mean, when you see the type of horrific things that they're able to do overseas, and then you look at 9-11, how they were able just to extinguish 3,000-plus lives on that day to get their agenda across, it doesn't shock me anymore, man.
unidentified		It doesn't either, Jason.
		You know what?
		My grandfather fought the Nazis, and unfortunately, they've been reincarnated.
		It doesn't shock me at all.
		When we go and do informationing about 9-11, I go with Vancouver 9-11 Truth People quite a bit.
		They're a great group of people.
		And where we get our comments a lot of the time is by people that are like, there's no way the government would kill 3,000 people.
		Are you guys crazy?
		It's like, what about the Gulf of Tonkin, where they made up lies and they went to war and they killed 60,000 of your troops and 3 million Vietnamese.
		I mean, people can't comprehend the unjustified, the mean mentality that these psychopaths have.
		There's no humanity.
		You know, you gotta look at the big picture.
		If you don't think Dick Cheney and George Bush were willing to write off a couple, 3,000 people to get a foothold in the Middle East, then you're not, you haven't done your homework or your research.
		I'm with you, man.
		The big new Brzezinski writes about this in the Grand Chess Board about the Middle East and Eurasia being completely, totally important for United States global dominance.
		I'd recommend everyone read the Grand Chess Board.
		We got the Fraser Institute here in Vancouver, this right-wing scum tank, putting on an event called the Illuminismo Dinner Series, with the big new Brzezinski coming up in September.
		That's the kind of filth our government and our people are allowing into our country right now, Jason.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, Travis, unless we keep standing up, unless we become the media like you guys are trying to do, unless we become more active, unless we, you know, get out there and spread the truth to people, We're going to live under this tyranny.
		I thank you for joining us, Travis.
		Go check them out at wearechange.org, wearechangevancouver.org.
		We're going to be back taking more calls, and then we have We Are Change California coming up.
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		So you'll probably be able to see it before anybody else.
		and it's really just an extraordinary film and then i'm i'm very happy was put together it shows the activist uh part of this movement and uh we need more of it so i'm going to take some more callers before the top of the hour and uh we've got justin in texas on the Hey, I was just calling today to remind everybody that there's going to be a big debate between Richard Gage and Mark Roberts tonight.
unidentified		I think it's supposed to be on hard fire, so for everyone to keep an eye out for that.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so it'll probably be up on the net tomorrow, huh?
unidentified		It should be up pretty quick, I'm assuming, and that Richard Gage is a pretty big name for the truth movement, so it should prove to be pretty entertaining.
unidentified		If nothing else, I also wanted to bring up the unsecured coins story.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, well, let me get a second in here.
		So, here's the problem with all that.
		You guys use lies anyway.
		I mean, you're used to lying.
		You lie every day in your little debunker sites, and then it's okay for you to make up a lie about a real issue.
		Let me tell you about an article I got right in front of me, okay?
		U.S. School District to begin microchipping students.
		Now, admittedly, they're not putting the chips in the arms of the students, but they're putting it in their backpack, and they're tracking them everywhere they go.
		Now, back in 2006, I got four separate articles all about how the Pentagon is now going to start chipping soldiers.
		So it's something that's really happening.
		You're using the truth, and then you're making up a story on it.
		And lying, so that we cover it.
		I mean, you guys lie all the time, that's the problem, man.
		At least I'm trying to tell the truth, Justin.
unidentified		Sure, there's just a, there was a, I thought, a legitimate point to be made by the fact that pretty much every single person who emailed, uh, Unsecure Coins, uh, his handle on JRef, uh, immediately got a response, uh, letting him know that the story was not, uh, real.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but, Justin, why would I engage him?
		All you would have had to do was- Yeah, but Justin, but Justin, why would I engage him when he's done nothing?
		Why would you believe him?
		Because he's putting out there on a public...
unidentified		He's a critic of loose change, obviously.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Because it's happening to soldiers, man.
		It is happening to soldiers.
		And I thought he may have been the unlucky one to get picked.
		I thought maybe it might turn him around and put him into more of a human state and realize that this is a problem.
		I'm sorry, dude.
		Are you four people getting chipped?
		Because I remember reading some of your comments on there, and it was like, well, you're still my...
unidentified		Actually, some of the comments that I posted were specifically just to embellish.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, and that's another point, Justin.
		But that's another point.
		You're trying to specifically, hold on, you're specifically lying on purpose.
		You're trying to engage the enemy with false information about a true subject So that you can discredit them.
		That's classic propaganda, man.
		I mean, I don't think you're on a payroll or anything, but you're engaging in the same tactics that the media uses.
		It's just like, alright, in 2004, it came out in the mainstream media that all these Mexican officials took chips to get to secure locations, and they put out a crazy number, like 144, to kind of test the waters.
		And then a few months later, they had to admit that it was a much lower number, but they wanted to see how the media was going to react to that.
		Purposeful disinfo.
		Justin, thanks for the call.
		We got, uh, We Are Change, who is it?
		We got We Are Change, L.A., Stuart Howe.
		He's in the new movie, 9-11 Truth Rising.
		Alright, we'll be back after this.
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