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June 4, 2008 - Alex Jones Show

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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		The elite to come in.
		to their annual meeting where they will discuss geopolitics and decide what's good for you and me.
		And it doesn't necessarily have to be good, folks.
		We're also going to have a few guests on the show today, of course.
		This Wednesday, June 4th, 2008, we're going to have Adam Cunnington of Kentucky We Are Change, Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change Colorado, Daniel Estalon, of course, the author of A book we carry over at Infowars.com on the Bilderberg Group, and of course he's in Endgame with Jim Tucker.
		We had Jim Tucker on yesterday.
		And Alex will be joining us for the full third hour, I believe.
		So, hopefully Alex is going to call in the first hour.
		We're going to take calls in the first hour as well.
		And I might even give a call to Blair Gadsby after the break.
		Blair is the man who is basically On a hunger strike right now to talk to John McCain.
		Now, I am no fan of John McCain.
		John McCain, of course, wrote the forward to Popular Mechanic's book, Debunking 9-11 Myths, and we're going to read an excerpt out of that.
		But the Arizona Central is, or I'm sorry, the Arizona Republic newspaper out there is finally reporting on this on a pretty non-slanted manner.
		I've heard conspiracy theorists, whack jobs, they leave that rhetoric out of this article.
		And I'm going to read it for you right now.
		An Arizona state senator is petitioning presumptive GOP presidential nominee John McCain to meet with 9-11 conspiracy theorists.
		I guess they do throw out the conspiracy theorists in the beginning.
		Including an adjunct professor from Scottsdale who has been fasting outside McCain's office for more than a week.
		State Senator Karen Johnson, a Mesa Republican, she's been on this show by the way, delivered a letter to McCain's Senate We're good to
		go. 10 days?
		Godspeed, man.
		There are so many questions left unanswered, said Johnson, who called for a new, independent investigation into the attacks.
		She had previously been focused on media attention for her vocal misgivings about the government account of 9-11.
		Again Tuesday, she said, there's no explanation, no legitimate explanation, about why the towers and Building 7 came down.
		He denied any knowledge of the NASA thermal imagery that showed these extreme hot spots.
		I don't know anything about that.
		Why don't you email it to me?
		That sounds good.
		Now the person asking him this is a professor at the college that he's speaking at.
		So this professor goes and approaches Mr. Gross afterwards and he says, Can I get that email so I can send you this NASA thermal imagery?
		No, I'm not interested.
		Thanks. I just said that because I was in front of a group of kids.
		So let's see if we can get Blair Gatsby on the line.
		10 days without food for 9-11 Truth, folks.
unidentified		That's pretty hardcore.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		This is the Alex Jones Show.
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		Remember, Alex is down in D.C. at Bilderberg.
		He's going to be calling in.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		We have Blair Gatsby on the line in his tenth day of fasting.
		To try to sit down with John McCain, who will be the presidential nominee for the Republicans, and talk 9-11 truth.
		I really don't think Mr. McCain has really looked into the matter, other than his basic rhetoric against Middle Eastern terrorists.
		This is the same guy who joked around and sang, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran.
		And I want to remind people that, uh, you know, Alex will be checking in all day long from D.C. and the Bilderberg Conference.
		I am Jason Bermas.
		you can check out my little website at loosechange911.com.
		All right, let's go to Blair.
		Blair, how did you come up with this idea?
		Yeah, it's not something I've ever done before, but it sure is good to be here talking to you.
unidentified		How did I come up with it?
		Good question.
		I think it was somewhat of a spontaneous idea, in that there's a convergence of issues.
		First of all, McCain's The rather sudden rise to the top of the ticket and to the top of the nominee here, and the fact I'm an Arizona citizen, or resident, and the fact that he wrote this forward to this book, and I thought, well, this is an interesting confluence of events here.
		I wonder if that would give me any leverage to approach him and ask him about just what side of this issue is he on regarding the official 9-11 cover story.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, and in Alex's upcoming film, 9-11 Chronicles Truth Rising, Uh, one of the family members, someone I know personally, uh, Dave Cahill, he's a musician.
		You can go check his stuff out on MySpace.
		But he asks him, you know, in light of the fact that many family members want a new investigation and don't feel that, uh, their questions were answered.
		In fact, 70% of their questions were unanswered.
		Would you support a new 9-11 investigation?
		And McCain just poo-poos it and says, oh, I think that they did a bang-up job and the family members are quite satisfied.
		And let me just read, uh, what, uh, a little excerpt from what he wrote in that forward.
		To debunking 9-11 myths, why conspiracies, conspiracy theories can't stand up to the facts.
		He says, we cannot let these tales go unanswered, yet he doesn't say what these tales are.
		9-11 conspiracy movement exploits, now we're exploiting people, folks, the public's anger and sadness.
		No, I think that was the mainstream media and the mainline government that exploited the public's anger and sadness in order to invade two sovereign nations, but I guess that's just me.
		Traffics in ugly, unfounded accusations, of course he hasn't looked at these up, It builds really when,
unidentified		I mean initially when they came out and said they hate us because we are free.
		That's why they attacked us.
		Well this is preposterous.
		I mean, right on the face of it, how is hate generated in someone's heart?
		Because somebody else has freedom.
		I could see envy, but not hate.
		So, as a religious studies professor, and I even teach a course on Islam and the other world religions, I mean, this was obviously a distortion, to say the least.
		Now, that was early on and immediate, but that certainly was not a 911 truther, if you will, at that point.
		In early 2003, In reading Gore Vidal's book, he made the suggestion, I think it was Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace, or his Dreaming War.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, Blair, can I just get you to hold?
		I'm sorry, man, but I have Alex on the line.
		He wants to come on right now.
		Can you hold over until the next segment?
unidentified		I can, sure.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, thank you so much, Blair.
		Alright, let's go right to Alex Jones from D.C., Bilderberg Conference 2008.
		Alex, are you with us?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Jason, don't interrupt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I apologize, I was on a call at this time.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yep, nope.
		I'm all about it, sir.
		How are things going?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I am here at Bilderberg 2008 at the West Springs.
		Literally, as we speak, I have security people following me, asking questions.
		You pull anywhere, they'll jump all over you, get in your face.
		And they don't even start arriving until tomorrow morning, but all their advance teams were here last night.
unidentified		Of course, we're standing nearby.
unidentified		Also got a room here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay. We're
		good. I think?
		into an award be drug back into it more uh...
		tyrant this is so important they met here of course in two thousand two is a very brutal and i'm standing in front of right here in front of an entrance the fact that they're meeting here again you later learn some minutes ago and they can slow our sources and a bit about the accurate intelligence of all it is one comes from shanby i've never seen jim be wrong Be right about 90% of the time, 95% of the time, Jim is always in it.
		2002 he came on my show during the meeting here in Chantilly and said that the fact that he had
		that his intelligence had him that I'm going to be attacking Iraq in March of that year, but that it would be in 2003 March. To be correct here, I've got people watching me walk around.
		That's why I'm bubbling a bit here.
		But just to be clear on my report, Tucker and others have said that the fact that they're meeting here in D.C.
		only two years after meeting in North America, the fact that they met here to plan the Iraq war in 2002 for March of 2003 shows that the war Council meeting that they are having here.
		To be clear, I am at Bill of 2008.
		They shut the hotel down.
unidentified		They said we have to be out in the morning.
		I'll be surprised we have to be out before them.
		There are a much better than I saw even in Ottawa where I saw in Italy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The leaders haven't even arrived.
		Their advanced teams are here.
		If you try to get to the conference rooms or any other areas where they're setting up there are people guarding.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		You broke up for a second there, Alex.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Do you say that there was twice as much security at this than it was two years ago?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's just coming in clear.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Am I coming in clear now?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am here at Bilderberg 2008 in Chantilly, Virginia at the Westfields Marriott Hotel.
		The last time they met here was in 2002 and accurate leaks that were then proven to be correct said that the attack on Iraq would not be in 2002, but that it was going to be happening in March of 2003.
		The reason that's important is the Washington Post, New York Times, and everybody else in the mainstream media were reporting that the attack was on in the next months in Iraq.
		And I looked at it and it didn't happen.
		It happened in March of 2003.
		The power of Bilderberg showed how they truly do and make decisions.
		And time and time again, M has been accurate with sources, so it's accurate in their sources.
		Forecasting was going to happen in two years, three years.
		Just like they said that we'd be paying dollars a gallon two years ago.
		They said that oil was going to go well above $100 a barrel.
		Now it's been at $125 a barrel for weeks.
		This shows that these people really do govern our planet.
		And so we see these big shows of Barack Obama.
		We see these big shows going on right now with Hillary Clinton and the rest of it.
		I know he's the presumptive nominee.
		None of that anything.
		People are literally pocket change that's in their pocket.
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		I don't know if you're here.
		This is John McCain.
		controlled by the very same institutions, and it's just like Otto there at the Brook Street Hotel, surrounded by Raytheon and Lockheedin.
		Driving in here was even worse.
		I saw every major contractor being over.
unidentified		Hold on, hold on, Alex.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		you saw, yeah, you saw, uh, every major defense contractor.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Is that what you said?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'll do it.
		Go get on the hotel line.
		And is this a bad sell?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty rough, yeah, it's pretty rough.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You've been breaking up in and out, but you were saying that...
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I just had him call in and he'll be out after this segment, so.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I'll just call in at the factory after, okay?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, sounds good.
		Thank you, Alex.
		There he is.
		He's at Bilderberg, folks.
		And, like he said, double the security.
		It's days before.
		Got there a little early.
		Scoped out the situation.
		He's going to be calling back on a landline, so he's a little bit more clear.
		Broke up in and out.
		Alright, let's go back to Blair Gadsby, a religious studies professor.
		I believe you teach in Scottsdale, Arizona, Blair?
unidentified		That's correct.
unidentified		It may be, actually, but it's a sister of colleges here in the Maricopa County.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And we were discussing what really will come up, and you said that, you know, just the fact that they said, hate us for our freedoms got your mind working, but what was it that really pushed you over the edge to check out 9-11 Truth?
unidentified		Well, I think that it was a subtle shift over to the so-called lie hop theory, when Gore Vidal, as I mentioned in the story, one or other of these two earlier book titles I mentioned, Um, uh, you suggested that, well, where was the Air Force that day?
		It seemed to be somewhat inexplicable that there was no Air Force response.
		So I think that since 2003, I've been something of a latent lie-hopper.
		However, it was last year, around, um, May last year, a little over a year, when somebody tipped me off to loose change.
		I watched that, saw Building 7 come down, and you know, it really all came together thereafter, and I've been a truther ever since.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's really hard to explain how a 47-story skyscraper that holds every intelligence agency under the sun, from the FBI, to the largest CIA office outside of DC, to the Secret Service, the largest Secret Service field office in the world, just comes down in a style of controlled demolition.
		Blair, I'm going to have to let you go, but I want to say, you know, keep it up.
		We're with you.
		There's a lot of people following this story.
		You have anything to add at the end?
unidentified		All I can say is just keep the pressure on the media.
		I'm targeting John McCain, remember.
		I'm trying to zero in on the fact that I believe he has been deceived by these scientists, and I want to snatch him back from those forces that have pulled him over.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks, it's the Alex Jones Show.
unidentified		We are back.
unidentified		We just let Blair Gatsby go.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Let's, uh, let's really support him.
		He's out there in Arizona, 10th day without any food whatsoever, in front of McCain's office, just petitioning to talk to the man and try to show him some of this evidence that 9-11 was indeed an inside job.
		Building 7 says it all itself.
		Alex Jones called in.
		His, uh, cell phone was a little shaky, but let's try to recap a little bit what he said.
		He said twice as much security as in 2006.
		He said security has shown up a day before it's scheduled.
		He has to be out of the hotel early in the morning.
		Tomorrow, he was obviously very silent.
		He felt like he was being followed.
		He talked about defense contractors.
		He also discussed how the last time it was in Chantilly, Virginia was in 2002, and we discussed that with Jim Tucker yesterday.
		And it really allows for a lot of the upper echelons of the military, of the Washington insiders, of the bureaucrats that run the system in DC to come over and stop over for a meeting for only a couple hours.
		It really allows access.
		So I think this is going to be a big, big Bilderberg meeting and we can't wait for Alex to call back, hopefully on the landline, and give us a little bit better of a report where we can hear every single word that he is saying.
		That being said, you know, most talk shows Would have started out with this info, but I haven't even talked about it yet.
		We had Mike Rivera on yesterday and we started to talk about the Democratic nomination for the presidency.
		And he said it looks like Barack Obama.
		No, we discussed Hillary Clinton and don't count her out yet.
		But indeed, it looks like it will be Barack Obama today.
		He is the seemingly, I guess unopposed at this point, nominee.
		Uh, for the Democratic Party, but when I went to CNN.com this morning to check out the story, the first spin they put on it, will Hillary vie for the Democratic Vice Presidential nomination?
		Now I've, I've been an advocate that it was going to indeed be a Hillary Obama or an Obama Hillary ticket, and that if it was not that ticket, that John Edwards would step in and be the VP for either candidate.
		I am still sticking by that.
		I understand that, uh, Well, Obama would be a fool to choose Hillary Clinton after she's joked a couple times that he may be shot and killed or assassinated when the last assassination of that nature prior to the elections was Robert Kennedy back in the day.
		And it's been quite a long time since that, yet she brings it up as if it is a probability.
		Very scary stuff.
		Now, he may be forced into it, much like Reagan was forced to take George H.W. Bush.
		And George H.W. Bush had some heated words during the debates in 1980 prior to his election to the presidency, and he was forced to take George H.W. Bush as his vice presidential candidate.
		It was not something he was looking forward to.
		In fact, I don't think it's something he wanted.
		Remember, George H.W.
		Bush comes up as the head of the CIA out of nowhere, supposedly, although he was a clandestine officer from all accounts prior to that, or you wouldn't just be the head of the CIA, folks.
		They don't just throw anybody in there.
		They throw people who have a long history of intelligence and keeping secrets and being manipulative in there.
		Then he becomes vice president for eight years, and let's not forget that Reagan is actually shot on the day of a presidential succession drill.
		We talked to Michael Rivero a little bit about that yesterday.
		And then Bush becomes president for four more years.
		And the follow-up to him is...
		We played that clip on the air yesterday.
		And Bilderberg Bill Clinton was one of his drug runners in the 80s.
		Okay, let's be clear.
		Our government runs a lot of the drugs in this country.
		In fact, the majority of the cocaine, the majority of the heroin.
		They have a pretty good hold on the marijuana trade.
		The people that you see going to jail are those that aren't paying their cut, that aren't playing by the rules.
		And, uh, Billy Boy Clinton was more than happy to run drugs through me in Arkansas.
		And he is a great speaker.
		I mean, Bill Clinton, man, he is a snake charmer, isn't he?
		When I saw that, when he actually admits to Bilderberg, he's just getting hooted and hollering, and everybody's cheering.
		He's like a god of Olympus.
		He can do no wrong.
		People don't even know what he's saying.
		He's just putting a positive spin on it.
		The economy was better when I was president.
		We enforced trade laws when I was president.
		I love America.
		We're not gonna Throw their interests away?
		Oh yeah, I went to Vildeburg.
		And oh yeah, they set policy there, but I wasn't there to set any North American policy.
		I was just there to sit in on some meetings with some Europeans about what was going to happen to Russia.
		Total bull.
		Total nonsense.
		Alright, let's get into some positive news.
	There's not a lot of that these days.
	But I just want to let people know that the courts have ruled, Missouri lawmakers have ruled, That, uh, they're gonna make it a crime if, uh, people are ordered to be microchipped in their arms from private businesses.
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		Alex Jones is going to be calling back soon.
		This is the Alex Jones Show.
		I am Jason Bermas.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Missouri workers can't be forced to get microchip implants.
		That's some good news, actually, folks.
		They can't force you in a couple states to get microchip implants.
		I'm glad they're making these laws.
		It's been found to, uh, you know, form cancer in rats and other animals.
		And there's no reason it needs to be in a human being.
		Although, uh, One of the debunkers over at the JRAF forums, Unsecured Coins, ha ha ha ha ha, very funny.
		Unsecured Coins, a few weeks back, goes in for a checkup.
		He wasn't scheduled for one for about five years.
		This guy's military.
		He goes in, he passes with flying colors, and then they stamp this thing with RFID.
		They say, come back next week, next Thursday.
		We're gonna chip ya.
		And there's nothing he can do about it.
		Uh, there's this big thread and people are like, well, why don't you just refuse it?
		He's like, well, then my career goes down the tubes.
		And we can't have our careers go down the tubes because then you can't pay your mortgage or your car payment.
		And you can't send your kid to college.
		Or if they're a toddler, you can't put them into little league because you don't have the money.
		Okay. That's how they get you.
		They put you into a system first.
		They get you comfortable on that system.
		They get you to dedicate your life to that system.
		And then they, uh, they put more restrictions on you.
		So, uh, Let's go ahead and read this article.
		Your bosses can still make you work weekends and give you projects you loathe.
		But Missouri lawmakers have voted to make it a crime if they order a microchip to be implanted in your arm.
		Duh! It's common sense!
		Of course there should be a law that can't force you to put a microchip in your arm.
		What do you want?
		Forcing someone to get microchipped implanted is barred in California, North Dakota, and Wisconsin, legislating awaiting Governor Matt Blunt's signature Would make it a misdemeanor with a fine of up to $1,000 for a boss who demands that a worker get an implant.
		$1,000?
		Let's make it $10,000, huh?
		Let's make it really hurt.
		Let's make it $100,000.
		Let's hurt their pocketbook.
		$1,000?
		They might even be...
		Most of their employees probably make $1,000 a week.
		Come on.
		$1,000.
		That's nothing.
		That kind of makes me sick.
		Katherine Albright.
		Uh, an expert in consumer privacy and radio frequency identification, that's RFID, folks, acknowledges that microchip implants might sound like black helicopter and tinfoil hats, igno- No, it doesn't!
		Listen, a family went on television in 2001.
		They went on the Today Show and got chipped.
		The crazed mom got on there and said, Oh, it's gonna help us protect from terror!
		The government loves us!
		I want to do what I can!
		And she said it was her little kid's idea.
		I think the kid was like 11 or 12 at the time.
		Some kind of techie.
		Yeah, that's a good idea.
		Let's listen to my 11 or 12 year old kid about getting chipped.
		He knows.
		He's into technology and then it comes out they were actually on a payroll.
		Verichip was paying them an ungodly amount of money to promote this and act like it was just the best thing since breakfast.
		Well, it's not!
		And you can go on eBay right now, and for about $10 to $15 you can get one of these microchips that you can chip your dog with.
		But, you know, it's a microchip.
		It's like a hypodermic needle.
		You can put it in anything.
		You can put it in you if you'd like.
	You can put it in your shoe.
	And then you subscribe to a service, and you're part of a GPS tracking program.
	It's really nice.
	It's good stuff.
	But the founder of Antichips.com and other critics argue they are tangible medical privacy and religious worries driving attempts to pass laws banning forced implants.
	Yeah. The people who oppose it don't understand how real the threat is.
	And the people who are gung-ho don't understand its power, Albright said.
	Albright's been trying to persuade state lawmakers across the country to pass legislation regulating technology that allows for tagged items To be tracked when microchips send off a radio signal to special readers.
	The information can be linked to a database and they're so easy to hack.
	Listen, it's an electronic device.
	Electronic devices can be hacked.
	They can be manipulated.
	They can do so rather easily.
	So when they say that you're going to be safe and secure and no one can take your microchip, it's a load of bull.
	Yeah, they can't physically take it out of you.
	That doesn't mean they can't put new information on it, take old information off, hack into it, clone those chips.
	I mean, there's a ton of stuff they can do with it.
	It's a computer!
	Come on!
	This year, at least 17 states have considered bills regulating or restricting radio frequency identification, or RFID, according to the National Conference of State Legislators.
	Last year, there were 13. So that's positive that we're, you know, upping it.
	Oh, I wish we had a law like that in New York.
	God. Radio tracking has been used for forcing For tracing stores' inventories in toll booths, quick passes, linking unconscious patients to important medical information, and even for uniting missing pets with their owners.
	Aww, so many positive things!
	But critics say the benefits pale in comparison to risks of cancer and identity theft by secretly lifting information off someone's microchip.
	The nation's only federally approved maker of human microchips implants has denied claims that its product can cause cancer.
	A spokesman for Florida-based Verichip Corp.
	did not immediately return a call seeking comment.
	Of course they didn't, because they've done the test!
	Yes, it causes cancer in mice.
	Just type in Verichip Cancer, please!
	Please! Look, this thing passed in 2004 from the FDA for human consumption, okay?
	Alright, we got Alex on the line.
	Hopefully on the landline.
	Alex, you with us?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Jason, it is incredible.
		Everybody's cell phones, we've got five of them.
		We'll have full bars and then no bars.
		There's definitely surveillance teams, white vans, black vans.
		Security follows us everywhere.
		I've never seen this much security and it doesn't even officially start until noon tomorrow.
		We're kicked out of the Westfields Marriott in the morning and we're staying at the Hilton just a few miles away.
		We'll have continual coverage.
		Not just here, but on Coast to Coast AM.
		I was on last night.
		I'm giving him reports tonight and the next night.
		So people can also tune in for that.
		They'll get several reports during the day here over the next three days.
		And we'll also do some special reports during the weekend shows on Genesis.
		And then we're going to obviously have a report on the Sunday show as well.
		Let me tell you the basics here.
		I have Jim Tucker sitting right next to me.
		We're going to go to him in just a moment.
		Here's the bottom line.
		They normally only meet North America every five years.
		But two years ago, they met in Ottawa, Canada, and we went and attended that.
		Of course, I was detained and the rest of the people know that story.
		It's covered in Endgame.
		The reason it's so important is, everything, Jim, in 30-plus years of reporting on Bilderberg, has ended up happening.
		That shows their power and control.
		He said Bush is going to endorse greenhouse gases and the global tax.
		He did it weeks later when Bush had said he'd never do it, and people didn't believe it.
		He was proven right two weeks later.
		He said that they weren't going to attack in Uh, the latter part of 2002, that Bilderberg had met in this very hotel, uh, here in Chantilly, at the Marriott, the Westfield's Marriott.
		They've come back to the scene of the crime.
		They told Rumsfeld, who attended, they said, you are allowed to attack, but you have to attack next March.
		Jim said that nine months before the attack, and it happened just as he said it would.
		So we were at the scene of the Iraq planning.
		This, this is a place of high treason.
		This is the place here in Virginia, right outside D.C., just a few miles in Chantilly, where they orchestrated this in 2002.
		Now, the Washington Post and others who attended lied to the public and said, oh no, it's going to be in the next few months in 2002, knowingly, premeditatedly.
		And again, Jim Tucker was right about that.
		He's got sources inside.
		We'll get the list in the next few days.
		We'll learn more and more.
		But I tell you, we are in the belly of the beast here.
		We are right in the heart of the monster.
		And I want to turn you over to Jim Tucker.
		Jim, Jason Burmiss is sitting in for me while we're here in Virginia.
		just for a few minutes, give people a basic rundown of what you've seen so far.
		And then any questions that Jason has, he'll come back to me in about five minutes.
		Well, hello.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Jim.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		How you doing, man?
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		We're in the process now of developing sources.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		We will develop sources, and we will expose these criminals as we do every year.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Excellent. So Alex was telling me that it's unprecedented security over there.
unidentified		What's your take?
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm quite used to this kind of security.
		We're, of course, under constant surveillance.
		In other years, I would recognize the guard who was assigned to...
		Be reading a newspaper at the breakfast table next to mine.
		If I'm in the gift shop buying newspapers, he's in the gift shop looking around.
		And then one morning, just for the fun of it, I opened my door suddenly and quickly, and he was outside the door, waiting.
		So I started calling him Charlie.
		I named him Charlie.
		I say, OK, Charlie, it's time now for us to go down to the cocktail lounge.
		Come on, Charlie.
		I'm going back to my room now.
		I've gotten used to it, they're kind of cute.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jim, Iraq war planning.
		Listen, I want to ask Jim right now, this is important for everybody, about 2002, how they deceived us, are they planning the attack on Iran, or are they nixing the plan to attack Iran?
		Everybody knows the carriers are waiting, it's all coming together.
		Jim, can you answer that question?
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Well, President Bush definitely wants to attack Iran, if our troops are not spread thin enough.
		The European Bilderbergs opposed the invasion of Afghanistan, even though the UN went along with that one.
		They strongly opposed the invasion of Iraq.
		So as the night of 2002, as Alex said, all the newspapers, including the Bill of Bear Control newspapers, were saying the war is coming this summer of 2002, or early fall at the latest.
		And when Rumsfeld, then-Secretary of Defense, went out to the Bilderberg meeting and assured the Bilderberg kids there would be no invasion this year.
		Nevertheless, their pledge of secrecy was so treasured that they their own newspapers to be wrong.
		Now, Jimmy Lee Hoagland, who heard Rumsfeld's speech of the associate editor of the Washington Post, could have gone to the Post Newsroom and simply say, boys, stop predicting war this year.
		Don't ask me how I know, I just know I'm the Associated Editor.
		It's Quick Predictive War this year.
		It will not happen until 2003.
		And yet, he maintains his peace and let his own newspaper be wrong for the rest of the year.
		That's just a demonstration of their fierce loyalty to their pledge of secrecy.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So this year do you think they're going to be Well, I think Bush wants to invade on his watch.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		It's so evident with all the propaganda coming out of the White House.
		All these months and months.
		They're conditioning the public mind for an invasion of Iran, but there will be heavy pressure from the Europeans not to do it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that pressure is going to hold water, or do you feel like these guys are going to go ahead anyway?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we've had very little change in the administration, Donald Rumsfeld being the one guy that really stepped down.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm hopeful that the president will be pressured out of it.
		Otherwise, he could find himself leaving...
		The next president with a bloody war on his hands and maybe a hasty retreat as in Vietnam.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And that would be actually pretty tough if we do put somebody like Obama into office who has pledged to end the war in Iraq and not start any more wars.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		But I feel like in order to give that some sort of legitimacy in a different administration, they would have to carry out some kind of a false flag attack.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's easily done.
		We've seen it before.
		In 1964, Lyndon Johnson is campaigning as the Peace President, and Barry Goldwater is being defined as the Mad Bomber.
		At that time, in August of 64, President Johnson, during the heated campaign, simply pledged to the American people a gain and a gain and a gain, even as Franklin Roosevelt.
		There would be no war.
		American boys will not be fighting wars that Asian boys ought to fight for themselves, he said.
		Then he invented the Gulf of Tonkin fiction.
		And every survivor, well, every sailor who served on the ship in question on discharge said the ship was never attacked.
		pure fiction about an attack on causing off a Tonkin incident, which he used to rationalize going to war.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And we've already seen similar provocations in this Iran situation.
		The most...
		Yes. It's not hard to invent an incident.
		So you feel like they'll do it, do you feel like they have a better shot of doing this overseas?
		Something like a Gulf of Tonkin or something more homegrown like maybe a smaller scale or maybe even a larger scale 9-11 type attack?
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		I certainly hope they don't resort to something so horrible.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		I think it's more likely that they'll come up with some, provoke some incident, in the Mediterranean, where this ship is allegedly attacked, and they have to fire back and kill everybody on the other ship and sink it in order to not have any dissent.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I feel like they're going to have to have some kind of a body count, though, to get the American people behind this.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Maybe a destroyer going down, some of our boys, 15 or 20 soldiers killed by Iranians, some sort of provocation where American lives are lost.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Yes, a reminiscence of Pearl Harbor, which Roosevelt provoked and knew about well in advance.
		And those who apologize for Roosevelt now, the real historians no longer question the fact that he had advanced knowledge and had provoked the Japanese into the Pearl Harbor attack.
		They simply say he had to do that because the draft passed by only one boat.
		We have to go to war in Europe, or Hitler will dictate these terms from the White House.
		That kind of jazz.
		Well, even if you accepted that argument, which I don't, why do you have to have 2,800 boys killed?
		Why not?
		Does the President of the United States Commander-in-Chief order the ships dispersed off 1,000?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		We've tried to provocate even Iraq prior to that war into shooting down planes that were painted up with UN colors.
		And we couldn't get them to do that.
		We were unable to get Iran to attack our boats after we put out that propaganda.
		I just hope that if this does happen, enough people in the American public are going to question it and aren't going to be rabid for another war, which seems on the agenda.
		And, of course, Bilderberg is meeting in D.C.
		like we discussed yesterday.
		It gives them very easy access.
		This is the Alex Jones Show.
		We will be back after this with Alex Jones and Jim Tucker.
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		Right now we have...
		Jim Tucker and Alex Jones live from Bilderberg on the Alex Jones Show.
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		And the majority of the information that comes out of there are going to come from Jim Tucker and Alex Jones.
		So let's get right back to them.
		What's your overview of the situation over in Chantilly, Virginia right now?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, this is Alex Jones back live.
		I want to be clear here.
		History was made in the very building that I am standing in right now.
		History was made here in 2002.
		The green light was given for a completely illegal, aggressive attack where our country was brought into Iraq to suppress the amount of oil that was flowing out, to have a black hole to put now over $3 trillion into.
		$3 trillion black hole.
		Meanwhile, more than $4 trillion has disappeared out of the pension funds via the Pentagon.
		And so I just wanted to hand the phone back to Jim Tucker and say, Jim, for the worldwide radio audience listening right now, specifically, you've said on record they planned the 2003 attack of Iraq.
		We're now five plus years into that.
		Gave the green light for that here where we're standing, in this very conference center, in this very luxury hotel.
		What I'm asking you is, A, do you think they're going to attack Iran?
		B, will they be deciding?
		During this key meeting in Virginia, is that why they're coming back to North America so early?
		How important, how historical is this meeting right now?
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Jim Tucker.
		Well, yes, it is a historical meeting, as Alex pointed out.
		last met here, the first meeting after the 9-11 terrorist attacks.
		The United States and most of the Americans participating in Bilderberg were all for going to war.
		The Europeans opposed it.
		Now, President Bush wants to attack Iran very badly.
		All the science are there, all the political propaganda about what a threat they are, are there.
		I'm hoping that the Europeans, it's unusual for Bilderberg to be split on a major subject.
		First time I've ever known them be split on a major subject, such as war.
		They were all for the Russians.
		the invasion of Yugoslavia under the Clinton administration.
		celebrated America getting over its Vietnam Syndrome, they called it.
		I'm hoping that the Europeans could pressure the United States out of attacking but I'm afraid it might be difficult because the president is so determined to go to war in Iran, no matter how much blood he leaves from the sands for the next president to deal with.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jim, hold on, Jason.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jim, can you specifically speak about, do you believe that the decision to go to war or not to go to war is going to be made this weekend?
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		I really don't know.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		The Americans are going to try to make the case for war this weekend, and I'm just hoping the Europeans will resist it strongly enough to avoid it, but I'm afraid All right, we'll be back with Jim Tucker and Alex Jones right after this.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, folks, we are back yet again.
		I am Jason Burmess.
		With me, Alex Jones and Jim Tucker.
		They are reshaping Eurasia.
		The establishment has taken over Afghanistan.
		They have taken over Iraq.
		You know they want Iran.
		Are they going to decide whether or not to invade Iran this year at this Bilderberg conference?
		Let's get it straight from the sources that are there.
		Alex, Jim, what do you think?
		Is this going to be it?
		Are they going to decide to go into Iran?
		Is it going to be more about the presidency?
		What are they going to be discussing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, just for the listeners all over the world, the new stations that just tuned in, we are in Chantilly, Virginia, a bedroom community of Washington, D.C., at the Westfields Marriott, 2008.
		They're back at the scene of the crime where they gave the green light for the attack on Iran in 2002 and launched the attack in 2003.
		Our cell phones, when they're turned off, turn on by themselves.
		We'll have full bars.
		Let us take phone calls.
		There's definitely electronic warfare going on here.
		We know that's happened in the past.
		Jim, at other events, has found bugs in his room.
		We are being followed by security.
		They're not even hiding it everywhere we go.
		When we get out our cell phones, they run up and make sure we're not using those to videotape.
		It is just absolutely amazing, but as American citizens, as free humans, we have a right to be here, to be covering what leaders from all over the world and the owners of the Fortune 100 And royalty, the Rockefellers, the Rothschild representatives, are doing.
		We have a right.
		And Jim always makes the point, if you had 125 movie stars meeting in secret, there'd be 50 helicopters and people freaking out wanting to know what was happening.
		But remember, just seven or eight years ago, the media still denied this even existed.
		Now the Washington Post was even forced to admit, you know, just that, well, the headline was, is they rule.
		And said, yes, we rule the planet, we run your lives, and that's the key here.
		This is historical, this is important, that's why Genesis Network is so important, that's why InfoWars.com, everybody's support is so important, that's why I thank them.
		Because this is so important, what we do, we risk our lives, our time, our energy, we're passionate, we're dedicated, and we owe so much to Jim Tucker for pioneering, exposing the true tip-top of the pyramid.
		You know, in the super-class article they wrote for the New York Times, admitting they run the world, want world government, Rothkopf says it's 6,000.
		Those are the gophers, the minions, the highest level of servants.
		This is the owners of the planet.
		This is the eugenicists.
		These are the people that are poisoning our water and our food.
		These are the people that are carrying out eugenics against us with the Marisol-filled vaccines.
		We're only going to do two more minutes with Jim.
		Jim, again, any other key points you want to add?
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would add that whether or not the United States invades Iran this year might well be decided at this meeting.
		I'm hopeful that it will not happen, but I'm afraid it will, because it's hell-bent to invade Iran and leave large-bodied footprints in the sands of time.
		They will also be discussing, if not celebrating, the price of oil.
		It was in, I think it was in 2005 when, reaching from my memory here, but about two or three years ago, they announced the price of oil.
		Which was then $40 a barrel was going to rise over the years to $140 a barrel.
		It's hit $133 a barrel.
		Don't know what they're going to do with the subject, but I know it's definitely on their agenda.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Do you think we're going to hit $200 a barrel?
		Do you think that's on the agenda?
		Maybe to push it even further up so we're paying $6, $7 a gallon at the pump?
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		I really don't know, but I will know when this meeting is over, I'll know.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Excellent. Well, you gotta keep us posted on that because it just seems like they keep bringing up the price of gas and I've seen so many articles prepping us saying we still have it too good that they pay, you know, six, seven dollars a liter in other countries and we deserve to pay more, Jim, is what they're trying to tell us.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Yes. Long Bilderberg tradition of lowering America's standard of living to the same level as in European countries.
		It would be much better for them to lift the standard of living in European countries.
		At the level of the United States.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		But we all know that won't happen.
		They're trying to enslave us.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, the establishment is at it again, folks.
		The eugenicists are meeting this weekend, and what will be on the agenda?
		Will it be the depopulation program that we all know about?
		Well, for sure they're going to be talking about reducing the standard of living.
unidentified		...
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		of American citizens as they've done over the last, you know, five to ten years.
		They've really lowered the standard of living in this country.
		They've upped the prices.
		Inflation is out of control.
		And there seems to be more and more government control of our lives.
		Jim, you were just discussing how you were hoping that they would up the European standard of living to that of the United States.
		But in fact, it seems like the standard of living in the United States has gone down.
		There's literally food rationing going on in New York.
		It's something that's unheard of to me.
		Is this the program they're keeping up with?
		Are they going to lower our standard of living even more, Jim?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jason, I want you to reintroduce that great question in a moment as we close out this interview with Jim.
		I just wanted to, again, point out what Jim was just bringing up.
		How they're lowering our standard of living, how they're inflating, how they're destroying the currency, the inflation.
		Jim said three years ago, this was on the agenda, Jim only makes Four or five announcements a year from his sources, from his intel, from coming back and interviewing people after the globalists leave.
		You know, they'll never talk to us beforehand.
		They've all been told they'll be fired if they talk to us.
		We've talked to a bunch of people.
		From people serving the coffee, you know, down at Starbucks, to people in the bar and the restaurant who work here at a Bell Hops.
		And they're scared.
		And, but then after they see the evil and hear the evil, and are treated like crap, they're told not to look at Bilderberg group members in the eyes.
		After they're treated like crap by this 125, you know, global rulers, uh, who just want to dehumanize them and euthanize them and get them out of the way.
		They always give us even more intel, but Jim actually has sources inside Bilderberg.
		Not members, but some of their minions.
		But, uh, I just wanted to say, we'll have reports at the end of the show again today.
		If anything big happens, I'll call in another Genesis shows, and I will be, uh, live again on air with you tomorrow.
		You did a great job, Jason, I appreciate it.
		And, of course, Friday, and then Saturday, and then coming back on Sunday.
		But yes, Bring that question back up to Jim Tucker, because it's so amazing.
		And then after you bring up that question for him, ask Jim all the predictions he's made are true.
		I mean, he said it's going to be $140 plus a barrel in the next two years, and it happened.
		And so in a few days, we're going to learn the course of our lives.
		There's no other group where you can go spy on them.
		We're spying on the globalists.
		We're spying on the black hand.
		We're spying on the people that own the central banks.
		I mean, this is it.
		So bring up that population reduction point you were pointing out about raising their control over the world while lowering our standard of living, and then bring up the fact that he's been right about the oil specifically.
		Here's Jim Tucker.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alright, Jim Tucker joining us again, and his predictions have all come true.
		It's not like he makes these wild predictions.
		He says about three or four things a year, just like Alex said, you know, from the price of the gas to the invasions into other countries.
		And we were discussing standard of living, Jim, and you were saying, well, why don't they just bring up the European standard of living to the United States?
		But what we're seeing is the opposite.
		That's been on the agenda for decades with the Bilderberg kids.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		They won't?
		Everybody has a lower standard of living.
		As Alex said, they're more controllable when they're poor donkeys instead of well-to-do entrepreneurs.
		Now, we're seeing the effect of one-seventh of the world's population is at risk of dying of diseases and hunger because the cost of food being at a record high throughout the world because of the cost We're good to
		go. On average, everything you buy, whether it's a house or a necktie or a loaf of bread, to be attributed to the cost of transportation is a long journey from raw material to finished product to marketplace.
		So, when you drive up the price of food, we now have aged people in Social Security who have to give away their dogs because they need to eat the dog food at the end of the month.
		They're not taking their medications because they have to eat.
		It's a horrible situation for Not just the very poor, but the not-so-poor, when their food budget costs multiply as they have.
		And when you take one-fourth of the corn crop and turn it into ethanol, and corn is the base of so much of our finished food products, and that has a tremendous impact on the price of food,
		which has a tremendous impact And they're just getting more and more people on that program because in the last year
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		They've blown out the U.S. economy, they've blown out the housing market, they've upped the price of gas, they've stopped food production, and I think it is their plan to get more people on social services so that they're in the system, that they're used to getting a government paycheck, that they're used to bowing down to the government.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, me and Alex were predicting if this thing goes Yes, Bilderberg, euphemism for all of this is population control.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		By that they mean killing the third baby, as they did in China.
		Well, that's known as abortion, I suppose.
		In fact, they're saying that the United States should pass a law permitting even that god-awful partial birth abortion.
		That is, when the baby is already coming out, they turn it around in the birth canal to take it out feet first, which also endangers the mother more so than coming out head first as usual.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		By the way, Jim, they're also calling for a one-child policy here in the U.S. Do you know about one-child policy?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes. Bilderberg, introduce the question.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
		One-child policy is obviously aimed at reducing the population on Earth, and of course with abortion and starving.
		make great progress.
		In fact, some economists tell us that 1 billion people, 1 out of 7 million people on this planet are likely to die.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		It's insane.
		You know, ABC has this website that they redirect kids to called planetslayer.com Uh, young people, and when I say young people, I'm talking five to eight year olds, are led to believe that they've used up their quote-unquote carbon footprint by the time they're fourteen months old.
		And it literally shows a cartoon of two pigs and in the middle, uh, blood from a dead human, saying that they need to die fourteen months after they're born because they're taking up too much carbon, Jim.
		Is, is this, uh, getting us ready for a, a new form of taxation, the carbon tax?
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Well, Bilderberg never found a tax it didn't like.
		A carbon tax would be one of their favorite world tax, though it was taxing oil at the wellhead.
		So it'd be a direct tax for anybody who buys gasoline for their car, lawnmower, or for whatever purpose, would be paying directly a tax to the United Nations.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, one of the big proponents of this carbon idea Yes, and Tony Blair was a Bilderberg kid, too. Very likely.
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, but it's very likely.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So who do you think are going to be some of the staples?
		We see David Rockefeller there almost every year.
		Do you feel like he's going to show up?
jim tucker ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he's there every year.
		He's quite frail now, deep into his nineties.
		He was at the Trilateral Commission meeting a few weeks ago.
		Henry Kissinger, of course, is regular.
		And Peter Southerland, the Chairman of the Executive Committee of both Billiberg and Trilaterals.
		He'll certainly be here.
		In fact, there's only a Typically about four or five new faces at a Bilderberg meeting each year.
		And if they're not invited back, that means they've been cast aside.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, they don't always invite everybody every year.
		For instance, Edwards was taken in the year he was elected to be vice president for the Democratic nomination.
		That's right, Jim.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's now bringing up that John Edwards was brought in.
		We've got to end this interview now.
		We're probably from on the street to be able to get Jim.
		He always does the ceremony.
		The ritual of trying to walk up and get in after they've already shut it down.
		We're going to try to be live on air around noontime, central or so, whenever Jim wants to do that.
		We're going to be bringing him down here from his hotel after we have to check out of the scene of the crime, of their crime.
		And so, we'll be doing that tomorrow, but I want to thank Jim Tucker for being on the show.
		I'm going to hand it back over to you, Jason Burmas.
		Thank you so much for doing a great job while we're out of town.
		And I want to thank all the other people that are tuned into the show today, and again, thank everybody for the money bomb.
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		Thank you so much.
		Burmus, I'm turning it back over to you.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back.
		I am Jason Burmess, in for Alex Jones.
		Alex and Jim just giving us blockbuster material from the Bilderberg Conference, where they honestly decide what's going to happen to this country and the world Over the next 12 months until they meet again I mean obviously they have a two-week little retreat over in the Bohemian Grove But that's around 3,000 members and although they have a lot of things go on there.
		This is a more concentrated group of people only a couple hundred and I can't tell you how important it is that we talk about Bilderberg go check out John Ronson special where He did a little series, I think it's Adventures with Extremists, Alex has an episode, David Icke has an episode, but Jim Tucker's episode about the Bilderberg Group, they literally get followed by Secret Service agents, and when they pull over, the Secret Service agents just pull over right next to them.
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		I mean, this is an organization that has just exploded over the past, you know, almost two years now.
		It's been a little less than two years since Luke put it together.
		Chapters throughout the country, throughout the world, really.
		And why don't you tell us a little bit about how you got started and your chapter over in Kentucky?
unidentified		Well, I didn't really see any type of real organization with anything going on here in the Louisville area.
		And for my studies within 9-11 Truth online, I came across some of the very first We Are Change videos of New York and really appreciated what they were doing.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		you just saw other people coming out, doing what's right, and you said, you know what, I want to be a part of this.
		This is one of the few groups out there that truly is organic, that is talking about the real issues that are confronting the big boys.
		And what did you do, just email Luke, and he kind of gave you a little bit of direction?
		I know that's who I send people to.
unidentified		Yeah, I just emailed Luke, asked him if it'd be alright if I created a chapter here out of the Louisville area, and he pretty much said that'd be fine.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I got to say, he did address your questions, but he always was spinning it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Were you the guy that was standing up actually asking the questions?
unidentified		No, that was Cody Dean from Wayarchange, Ohio.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, when Cody's asking the questions, Oliver North, he's a pretty smart guy, and he keeps phrasing it that this is going to be a constitutional government.
		He brings up the fact and he says, well, you're getting your information from the internet.
		And he's like, well, no, I saw the hearing of Iran Contra where Brooks asks you about it and the suspension of the constitution.
		And he doesn't want to talk about that aspect of it.
		He never wants to talk about the suspension of the constitution.
		He doesn't want to talk about how continuity of government doesn't necessarily have a constitutionally elected leader.
		And he doesn't want to discuss how those FEMA camps have been built all throughout the country for us.
		They're not for anybody else.
		You know, we're not putting foreigners in there, okay?
		And, uh, they're there.
		All you have to do is type in FEMA camps, and what really disturbs me most is that Halliburton got the private contracts to build these things, and then they took their offices and moved them out to Dubai.
		Why would they move them to Dubai?
		Well, so we don't have access to them if they want to round us up.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		We're back jamming on the Alex Jones Show.
		I am Jason Burmiss, and if you want to get at me personally, I'm at MySpace.com slash Jason Burmiss.
		Love a few more friends.
		I got a few thousand these days.
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		We're talking to Adam Cuttington of Kentucky We Are Change.
		They recently confronted Oliver North, lost their videotapes, got them back, threw it up on the internet.
		I'd be playing clips from that, but of course we're having computer issues over at the command center in Austin, Texas.
		But one of the really other interesting things I thought Oliver North said was that he admitted that newspapers are going down the drain and young people just don't believe them anymore.
		And they're going to alternative news sources, and he didn't want to name those to give them recognition, but I'm sure Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com were some of the sites that he was referring to.
		What's your take on that, Adam?
unidentified		I mean, yeah, he pretty much hit the nail on the head there that young people aren't trusting the very few media outlets they're trying to Control the minds of the public out there.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, people aren't buying into the corporate media, especially the younger people, the people that are burning copies of Loose Change and handing them out to their friends and family.
		You know, they're not going to CNN.com either.
		I mean, they might be going there linked from another place, but they don't trust the corporate media anymore because they've been caught lying again and again and again.
unidentified		Yeah, it seems like they're scared.
		That's why he was talking about that.
		I mean, he's a reporter for Fox News.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		He does that.
		He has that special.
		It's an hour-long show.
		I think it's about war heroes.
		He pumps his brook all the time.
		I mean, this is a real insider.
		This is one of those guys that I feel he's in the room when the think tank is going through the separate plans.
		In other words, he's listening to the ideas and the plans, and he's signing off on what he thinks, and then he goes and he meets with his overlords.
		You know, back in the day, that would have been people like Uh, George H.W. Bush, uh, Ronald Reagan, members of their cabinet, and now his role is really that of a propagandist.
		Again, he's a pretty well-spoken guy.
		Um, he can misdirect very well if people don't, uh, understand the subject matter.
		I mean, it's very easy for people to say, oh, it's on the internet, it's not true.
		Well, what's on the internet are stories based on mainstream media stories with links to the mainstream media sources.
		That's what he's not telling you.
		Instead, he just says, oh, you're reading the Internet.
		Well, the Internet is just as much a viable source of information, if not more, than television and newspapers and magazines like Time at this point, because it is the only true source of open information left.
unidentified		Thank you.
unidentified		Thank you.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm with you.
unidentified		Yeah, I agree.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So how can people support you guys?
		I mean, you guys in particular.
		How many members do you have down in Kentucky?
		Do you need more members?
		I mean, obviously we could all use more people.
unidentified		We always need more info warriors.
		That's right.
		We always need more info warriors.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So how do they get into this?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys have a Kentucky We Are Change site?
unidentified		We have kentuckyanachange.org is our website.
		We also have MySpace, which is myspace.com slash kentuckyanachange.
		You can contact us through either one of those outlets.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So what's on the horizon?
		What do you guys think?
		Obviously you're active.
		You're taking upon yourselves to become the citizen media.
		This is the new form.
		I mean you're getting thousands of hits on your YouTube videos.
		Who's the next victim?
		Who's in the crosshairs?
unidentified		Well, I really don't want to put out there what our next ambitions are as of right now, but I can say that we have, there's a little bit of interest throughout the group to cover the 2300 Marines that will be landing in Indianapolis within the next week or two.
unidentified		I can't remember the date, I'm sorry.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And what are they coming in for?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Are they coming in for some kind of a massive exercise?
unidentified		Urban warfare drills.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, isn't that nice?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		They've been doing these since 99, but I'm sure they're going to say, well, now we're in a post 9-11 world, we actually have to be ready for this.
unidentified		Yeah, so we've got a couple people that maybe are going to cover that.
		And also you can find information about that in the IndyStar website if anybody out there would like to find information out about that and just go help themselves.
		Also, I'm helping kick off a Central Indiana We Are Change out of Indianapolis, which you can find out information about on the Kentuckiana Change meetup page as well.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Excellent, excellent.
		Well, man, I just got to tell you, keep up the great work.
		If they take your cameras, make a big stink about it, say, Thank you.
unidentified		You're doing great work out there, Jason.
unidentified		You keep it up.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, thanks.
		That's Adam from We Are Change, Kentucky.
		I'm not sure, but we might have Jonathan Elenoff on the line right now.
		All right, he's calling him right now.
		So Jonathan Elenoff is of We Are Change, Colorado.
		And I personally know Jonathan.
		He brought Corey and Dylan and myself out there for a week out in February.
		We screened the movie to almost 2,000 people at three different screenings, two separate venues.
		Denver was just an awesome place.
		And that's where they're holding the DNC this year.
		That's where they have a provocateur group called Recreate 68, where they're encouraging you to come down so you can throw red paint on people, so you can wear a mask, and you can destroy other people's cameras.
		Yeah, that sounds like a real group.
		That sounds like an anti-protest group that has some legitimacy.
		Let's attack others.
		Let's throw paint on others.
		Let's destroy the evidence of what actually happened.
		You know what that sounds like to me?
		That sounds like provocateurs.
		That sounds like the WTO in Seattle.
		That sounds like nonsense.
		And on the line is somebody who's going to be there for sure.
		I'm gonna try to make it out there.
		I've got a wedding right after that.
		But it is very important that we go down to the DNC, we go down there peacefully, and we actually film those who would not be peaceful.
		We film those that are on the payroll of the establishment.
		I mean, they got caught in Canada.
		They had one of these guys.
		You know, he had the jackboot on.
		He had the mask over his face.
		He was talking about throwing rocks at the police officers, and the police come over to arrest him.
		Everybody already knows he's a cop, but when they bend him down, you see the bottom of his shoe, you see his whole shoe, and lo and behold, it's the same shoes that the police officers are wearing.
		Jonathan, weird, huh?
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		What's going on, man?
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Always a pleasure.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Always a pleasure.
		Jonathan Elenoff of WeAreChangeColorado and TruthAlliance.net.
		Why don't you just give people a heads up of how they can get involved if they're in your area, and what you guys have been up to lately?
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Well, they can come up to any of our meetings.
		We host them every Monday night, and they can find out about that if they go to wearechangecolorado.org.
		And our media, basically, our media network is truthalliance.net, and you can contact us through any of those sites.
		You know, we do everything from confronting the global elite to discussing agendas to get the word out to make sure we start recruiting more people to the truth movement and try to get some people out there and wake them up.
		And it's just, there's something for everyone, I guess.
		But, you know, it's funny because when I wrote those articles and blew the whistle, I've received everything from credit and And, uh, praise from people in Colorado to some people questioning why I would even do such a thing.
		And it's been interesting coming across the many colors of the activists that are out here.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, it blows people's minds when you actually shatter the false left-right paradigm.
		When you say, hey man, I'm not a raging socialist leftist.
		And, hey man, I'm not a raging, you know, conservative apologist for this administration.
		I'm what you like to call a constitutionalist.
		I believe in the Bill of Rights, in the Constitution, I believe in a constitutional government, and I'm not here to abuse my rights.
		I'm not here to throw paint on people.
		I'm not here to bring a shield and incite riots.
		That's what they want you to do.
		Okay? It's very obvious to me that this is an op, that somebody at the top is putting this out there to try to cause violence at the DNC, to try to shift the focus on You know, that we're out of control, that we don't even deserve a vote.
		I can see that.
		We don't even deserve to vote anymore, Jonathan.
		We can't stop rioting.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
		And, you know, that's the whole point of peaceful revolutions and trying to get people to really just, you know, try to wake up to how to create a revolution, what causes change.
		And if people really look at history, they'll notice that the only change comes from true leadership.
		Very few times through violence has change been brought.
		Now, this country was made through violent, radical change, but that was a last resort.
		Now, we certainly are not at our last resort.
		Everyone knows that.
		We're far from that.
		There's many options, many opportunities, and when we gather in large numbers, it is so important to take advantage of peaceful, civil disobedience, because really, we don't really gather in large numbers anymore, and it always gets covered.
		So it's funny to see that every time it happens, there's always somebody trying to get everyone to get angry and get upset, make us look dumb and bad.
		And so those are the people I usually pay attention to, because I think either they're not familiar with what the New World Order wants us to look like or look bad, or they're just dumb.
		And it's nothing personal, but, you know, that's why it's so important that we remain peaceful.
		We have, you know, speakers, we have events.
		We actually try to go to the media, we try to do maybe a march, we wear shirts, we walk with banners.
		You do something with a message so that people can hear what you believe, and then you create change.
		But nobody's going to listen to anybody who's creating violence or creating havoc or just upset.
		They're just going to think that that person needs to be, you know, well, the average person I'm thinking here is what they think.
		That person needs to be, you know, beaten into submission.
		Surprisingly, that's almost always what happens in those kinds of situations.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, they want a reason to let off rubber bullets.
		They want a reason to throw out the gas cans.
		And you're right.
		There are those people out there that have just awoken to the fact that this administration is evil, that they're liars, and they're ignorant to the other facts that previous administrations have been this evil.
		They've just been slicker.
		That it's not about Republican or Democrat.
		You know, they just know they're mad.
		And what they do is that, for instance, my buddy Nate out in Colorado, or not Colorado, out in Portland, one of his good friends, got this email.
		He's like, yeah, I'm going, go recreate 68. And he brought that up with me.
		He's like, yeah, he says he's going to this thing.
		And I said, you better warn him that this is going to be a provocatory event.
		And I sent him the website with the shields.
		And he's like, oh my god, you know, this isn't the right thing.
		So it's very easy for them to suck in the ignorant masses that just know that something's wrong.
		And these people genuinely think they're doing something positive, they're trying to bring change, when in fact, they're going to be just another part of this controlled paradigm in order to make movements like ours, Jonathan, look awful.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Right, and they'll make us look violent, they'll make us look bad, and when peace protests break out in violence, I mean, this empowers the police state, and it's used as a pretext to further bolster imperialist philosophies peace organizations have worked so hard to curtail in our society.
		Our concern is legitimate that the DNC will be provoked towards violence.
		Our evidence is the statements made by these organizations, their own websites, past actions, and it's all presented in articles I released.
		I was attacked personally almost immediately for even having any dissent against these groups or having a different opinion.
		And I've had people confront me, and they've read the attack articles against me.
		They're not familiar with my articles or my proof or my evidence, and they're like, oh, you know, I've heard this, that, and the other about you, and you need to shut up and you need to stop talking about this.
		It's amazing because you can really see the power that the collective masses really have when they don't pay attention to what they're doing.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		The power of disinformation, Jonathan.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah.
		And it's almost kind of intimidating and scary at points because, you know, for a while there I was kind of rebuttaling those attack articles, but they just kept coming and coming and emails kept coming and coming.
		So I decided to take the high road and just walk and say, you know what, look, I said my piece.
		I blew the whistle.
		This is not about me.
		This is about whether or not people understand my message, which is be peaceful, You know, let's pull our heads together.
		Let's do something, you know, correct.
		I'm not against activism in any way.
		I'm an activist myself.
		I'm just concerned for the safety of 9-11 truthers down there.
		I think that this is a great situation to make us look bad.
		And that's what I got when I went to the meetings.
		That's exactly what I felt.
		That's what I witnessed.
		And that's all I needed to back away from that group immediately.
		So, you know.
		That was just a sharing of my experience.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		No, you did the right thing.
		I mean, you did the right thing, and you exposed them, and you're right.
		Look at the power of the mockingbirds, the people that aren't familiar with our information.
		They're not even going to take a look at the information, and that's why the mainstream media has been somewhat successful in suppressing 9-11 truth, because the majority of Fox News viewers don't know what 9-11 truth is, just what has been represented by those like Neil Cavuto, And Bill O'Reilly, and Sean Insanity, and even Alan Combs.
		I'm not going to give him a pass.
		You know, just these talking heads and what they've said about 9-11 truth, they're not actually going to go onto our website and check out our evidence.
		They're not going to go to Google Video and watch Loose Change Final Cut for free.
		You know, we're putting this stuff out there for free to the masses because our nation's on its last legs.
		If they carry out another false flag terror attack, God knows what they're going to do.
		The provisions for martial law are in place.
		In fact, a lot of people don't know this, Jonathan, but isn't it a fact that martial law was declared in Florida in the days before 9-11, when Jeb Bush was running that state?
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, four days before, if I'm not mistaken, he declares martial law.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		How convenient.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, you know, and there was so much that came out of Florida that would have required the military to overrule the police in their investigations, you know, because I guess that was needed.
		I mean, come on, this guy...
		What's so funny about declaring martial law in advance of 9-11 is all the evidence of all the whistleblowers that came out of Florida, all the FBI agents, all the people who knew, like Hopsicker and stuff, who investigated Muhammad Atta, they knew almost immediately that there was going to be massive investigations into the many months, and I think over a year or so, We're good.
		by some of the hijackers in Florida.
		And had Jeb Bush not declared martial law, all that information would have came out because the press would have had carte blanche and went out and found out all this stuff.
		And once he declared martial law, well, that made it really easy for anyone who wanted to ask questions.
		They needed to be going to the military to get their answers.
unidentified		And we all know the military follows orders.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Under national security, especially under martial law, under martial law, anything goes.
		Really, that just meant that Jeb Bush is going to give you your information from now on.
		Don't even bother looking into anything.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And he also set up a safe house, really, for his brother.
		You know, the attacks take place and his brother's in Florida.
		What a coincidence.
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		We're talking to Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change Colorado and Truth Alliance And Jonathan has done some great things.
		I mean, from the confrontations with Gary Hart to his articles about urban moving systems.
		This kid, I shouldn't call him a kid, he's a young man, just a little bit younger than myself, has done it all.
		And yesterday, I don't know if you were tuned in, Jonathan, but I went over some of your urban moving systems information and how one of these vans actually had exploded just down the road Yeah.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		In the article, I kind of detailed that van with the mural on it, and it was.
		Even in the Saving City Lifeline, Uh, which was a transportation policy studies report released by Norman Mineta in 2006.
		He actually even confirmed that that van with the mural on it existed.
		And that report stated that there were continuing moments of alarm, a panel truck with a painting of a plane flying into the World Trade Center was stopped near the temporary command post.
		It proved to be rented to a group of ethnic Middle Eastern people who did not speak English.
		Fearing that it might be a truck bomb, the NYPD immediately evacuated the area, called out the bomb squad, and detained the occupant until a thorough search was made, and the vehicle was found to be a delivery truck.
		Now, that's taken directly from that report, and it was made available in the van's article.
		So, you know, when I wrote that article, I was looking for any information on, okay, if Minetta says that there's vans with explosives in it, and there's paintings of planes flying into the Trade Center towers, there's got to be Police reports out there.
		And luckily someone a while back, I'm not sure how long ago, but somebody posted a torrent of all of the audio from the police radios that day that was released to the public, same with fire department.
		There's actually a website that's dedicated to the fire department audio files.
		So I downloaded that and listened and listened for hours.
		And I mean, I couldn't believe how many times I heard bans and stories about bans.
		And it was like, How come I've never heard about this?
		And the more I started looking into it, the more I actually started finding what I was looking for.
		It was just well buried.
		So, um...
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And this van is separate from the van that was pulled over by the George Washington Bridge that was supposedly full of explosives.
		The story then changes that it set off the dogs and there was no explosives in it, but it tested positive for explosives.
		We're gonna get into that and more with Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change Colorado.
		After this, it is the Alex Jones Show, InfoWars.com.
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		Right now I'm talking to Jonathan Ellenoth.
		Of We Are Change Colorado and we're discussing a lot of these vans now.
		These vans on 9-11 there was two big reports.
		There was the report of the one lined with explosives and then there was the report of the three gentlemen who had taped the attack.
		And it looks like they were both detained.
		When you look at the report some of these people who were involved in this quote-unquote Israeli intelligence ring were detained prior to 9-11 and even more were detained after 9-11.
		But they were all let go.
		And it seems like Urban Moving Systems, Amdocs, Converse, all this has gone by the wayside.
		And it's just not discussed at all, Jonathan.
		But now we find out there were even more vans and a suspicious mural-painted truck.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Right. And the truck with the mural on it was described as a moving truck.
		Some have suggested that it might be the same van that was owned by Urban Moving Systems, that owned multiple vans.
		That hasn't been confirmed.
		But that's something I'd like to ask Dominic Souter, who was the...
		that he was the owner of the Urban Moving Systems.
		He employed these guys that were celebrating the attacks on New York and filming them.
		And those names were released.
		We have those names of those guys.
		So, you know, I have a film coming out, as you know, that's going to be detailing all of this information and, of course, some new footage of Building 7 and some other interviews that people haven't seen yet.
		And hopefully we can...
		Really get some questions answered because I mean anybody who's driving around on 9-11 with a van with a mural on it basically showing what's going on that day should be questioned I mean to say the least and why we know nothing about this I mean just only raises my curiosity and I'm sure there's a long list of questions we all want to ask them but yeah at the police radio they even reported a couple of Uh, times that a truck had actually exploded.
		One van had actually already blown up.
		And I was able to determine that actually the FBI, originally on that day for a short period, was releasing statements, now I found USA Today, MSNBC, and CNN all releasing this, that they believed that there was a car or truck that was in the basement in the parking garage that had also exploded, um, aside from the explosives heard in the building and the plane hitting it.
		So the FBI at one point actually confirmed this story to be legitimate.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		They said it was the working theory at the time.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly.
		So, you know, we're not alone in this, that these vans were, you know, people were conscious of these vans.
		So I want to know why the FBI released that report, what information they were going on, because they haven't released their intel, and why they changed it so suddenly, who made that decision.
		I mean, if this is an issue of orders, somebody needs to be held accountable, but...
		The direction was changed deliberately that day, away from these vans, so that we would basically avoid hearing about them.
		And you can kind of, as you watch, you've seen all the footage, so you know, as you watch the day unfold throughout 9-11, you can see the direction of the media, which is, for the most part, looking at it as, you know, they're looking for bombs, they're looking for explosives, these vans are an interesting story.
		Dan Rather covers it at one point.
		CNN covers it, uh, a little bit later in the evening.
		And then all of a sudden, just an immediate change, a 180.
		And some news reports are saying the exact opposite information.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, uh, you know, and on that day, they're blaming Bin Laden all over the place.
		Every mainstream network I know, Bin Laden, Bin Laden, Bin Laden, Bin Laden, we already know it's Bin Laden!
		Well, we'll be back after this with, uh, Jonathan Ellenhoff of We Are Change Colorado.
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		All right, folks, we are back.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones, Chantilly, Virginia, the Bilderberg meeting.
		He's going to be popping in hopefully in the third hour.
		We're also going to be taking your calls.
		In the third hour right now we have Jonathan Elenoff of We Are Change Colorado.
		And, Jonathan, you've been in this for quite some time, you know, the anti-globalist movement, the anti-New World Order movement.
		When did you decide that, hey, Colorado needs a chapter of We Are Change and I'm going to be the guy, I'm going to be the go-to guy, I'm going to put this thing together?
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, I originally had just kind of been dabbing around in the local 9-11 visibility group here under Michael Wolsey and the Colorado 9-11 visibility group, which is a great group, a bunch of great people there, nice people.
		And it was through that that I had met Jason Charles, a true client, and we got a chance to meet up with Rob and Josh and Nick and Adam and Shannon and all the other founders of We Are Change Colorado and basically they had this vision of bringing We Are Change to Colorado and I just,
		it just kind of manifested, you know, and with the help and the great work of these people out here in Colorado, the names I just mentioned, we made it happen and I'm just so honored to know these guys and to be on the battle lines with them and, you know, and Yeah, I didn't really ever see myself as becoming a hardcore activist when I was younger.
		I did know that I would inevitably fight, you know, for what I believed in because, you know, growing up, I was into this stuff in the 90s.
		I used to read conspiracy books and stuff like that.
		I used to read, you know, people like David Icke, who is not popular by any means in this movement, and he was actually one of the people who turned me on to this stuff.
		And I came across Alex Jones and then I just basically immediately was just completely behind the movement and total support.
		Of course, I worked all the time.
		So I always knew that my place in this battlefield, which was to fight on the side of truth.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, I feel like all of us have a place on this battlefield who crave freedom, who crave the Bill of Rights and Constitution, who want a government for and by the people again.
		Those are the people that need to wake up.
		People need to realize you do have power.
		We are all very powerful beings.
		You know, Jonathan has been able to confront some of the bigwigs on this, most notably Gary Hart.
		That's probably my favorite one from We Are Change Colorado, but that's not it.
		I mean, you've gone much further than that, haven't you, Jonathan?
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, we've gotten Bill Clinton.
		We got national press coverage for our confrontation with Bill Clinton.
		We just recently confronted McCain.
		Unfortunately, we're not going to be able to have a video on that.
		I did talk to the person who had camera footage.
		We have some of the speech.
		I don't think we have anything of anything else.
		But we did also, we just confronted the Denver Water Board again on water fluoridation, and actually we were attacked by some private attorney who showed up and declared us a crazy conspiracy theorist.
		It was actually entertaining.
		That video will be up shortly, which actually kind of brings me to a whole other point.
		My YouTube channel had been disabled a while back, about a month back.
		And I've been permanently banned from YouTube for some convenient reason.
		So we've had to resort to relying to friends and other people to post our videos.
		So if people are wondering why they haven't been able to see our videos in a while, that's the reason why.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, you've got to understand, these people are going to combat us in every way possible, and I truly believe the reshaping of Google Video, for instance, was in large part We're good to
		go. Uh huh.
		And I you know it's not a shock when they pull down your YouTube or they pull down I believe another YouTube account was just pulled down the other day because someone posted the fourth hour of the Alex Jones show where he showed the handlebars video and they didn't just tell him to take that down they just deleted his entire account without any any notification whatsoever and they said it was due to that video but really that's fair use I mean Alex had them on the show you know he has a small little TV program that's like taking Yeah,
		that is ludicrous.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous.
unidentified		That's exactly what I had experienced.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		It's been fun confronting...
		I mean, we've confronted people like Giuliani, Romney, Ashcroft, and all these videos are basically off of YouTube right now.
		We do still have them.
		We are going to get them back up.
		And I'm showing some of them in my film.
		But, you know, this whole battle, which is basically an internet war of information, because, I mean, let's face it, 90% of the people in this movement have found out about this, either from a DVD that somebody handed them, or a website that somebody sent them to, or that they ended up on.
		So this, and those DVDs, by the way, come from ordering them on the internet.
		You're not getting them in Barnes& Noble.
		You're not buying them, you know, you're not renting them at Blockbuster.
		This movement is solely dependent on communication between the internet and cell phone and it's grown to such a substantial size now that really the only thing they can do is try to attack us through the internet, which is funny that that's where we're in the battle.
		So I'm not surprised one bit when I see this stuff, you know, manifest before our eyes on the internet because, for example, I see disinformation all the time on the internet.
		It's one of the great tragedies Of this movement, which is that, you know, the people who know the information get basically censored and moved aside.
		And then at the forefront, I see videos with tons of hits on YouTube that are complete disinformation.
		I've seen it all the time.
		I'm not going to name names, but I'm sure you're familiar with this.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Sure, it's the laser beam, no-plane-whack-job crowd that wants to put out a thousand videos and, you know, claim that we're somehow censoring their ludicracy and, you know, imagination because there's no evidence to support any of this stuff.
		Listen, overlaying videos on top of videos that are shot at different angles, on different cameras, with different lenses, guess what?
		You're gonna yield Different results.
		They're not going to just line up.
		This isn't Fantasyland, where everything just overlays.
		I mean, it's so obvious to me that this stuff is disinfo, and it makes me sick because, you know, for instance, Howard Stern, you know, he has Paula Gloria on his show for an hour long, and she sounds completely and totally insane.
		And when she brings up something like, you know, somebody who was waving in the impact hole, instead of explaining why that would be impossible, for the official version she has i would just think about it will know what you need to say you know if you have any sort of legitimacy whatsoever is well the official version is that the impact site it's supposed to be are between fifteen and eighteen hundred degrees to weaken this deal yet we have people in the impact holes waving and we also have that's not the transcripts not only the transcripts
		but the audio of the firefighters who are in the impact hole saying they can knock down the fire with two hand lines okay now think yourself I
		hope we do.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		I'm appalled.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		And those videos don't get pulled.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, those videos are going to be...
		Not only do they not get pulled, they get promoted by the mainstream.
		The mainstream can't wait to say something like, no planes hit the towers.
		You know, I'll never forget when Morgan Reynolds went on Fox News and said, well, they're cartoons.
		And I'm thinking to myself, all right, you're disinfo.
		You know, this former Bush official, I had done an interview with him.
		He had He had really given some signs in that interview.
		I actually had done that interview with Alex and some of the crew over at Infowars and he went off this tangent on OJ where he's doing slashing and stabbing and he had just grown this big weird mustache and I'm like...
		What is this guy doing?
		And then he jumps into the Looney Bin crowd about cartoon planes.
		Listen, those people don't even know how special effects work.
		They don't know what a chroma key is.
		They, you know, from all the nonsense about Wes Cam and this and that and projecting and, you know, Rick Siegel with his garbage on his update of 9-11 Eyewitness.
		Look, I don't need these guys as friends.
		You know, I don't need these guys representing this movement.
		They're tearing this movement apart.
		And they're the first ones to attack people.
		I shouldn't even be giving them, you know, this much of a forum.
		But people need to be aware that those videos aren't going to be pulled.
		Those videos are going to be promoted.
		Those videos are out there to try to discredit the entire movement and make us look all nuts.
		So when, you know, Jesse Ventura gets on Howard Stern and starts talking about, you know, the demolitions of 1, 2, and 7 and how he was in the, you know, underwater Navy demolitions team and he knows what a demolition looks like, they try to poo-poo him.
		No. And she brought up,
		you know, 1, 2, 7. She said that, you know, you should have Willie Rodriguez on there, explained his story.
		Stern promised to have Rodriguez on, so we will see.
		Let's take some calls in the next segment, Jonathan, before I let you go.
		And, uh, and then we're gonna take calls in the final hour.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, we are back ladies and gentlemen.
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		I am Jason Burmess subbing in for the week as Alex is down in Bilderberg in Chantilly, Virginia.
		We're going to take a couple calls.
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unidentified		Good! It looked to me like one of the ministers was going to be preaching on Romans 13. Give up your guns, obey the government, it's God, go to the camps.
		Exactly. Anyway, it might not be up yet on YouTube.
		I've put it up, but I can't get it to pull up via the search words, but it's listed under Freedom Church, Colorado Springs.
		So, it'll come up, you know, eventually today.
		I don't know what they're doing.
		If I go into my own account, I can see it, but it won't pull it up under the...
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, definitely let us know, and shoot an email over to Aaron at InfoWars.com.
		Maybe we can do a story on it, if not this week.
		Next week, I thank you for the call, Scott.
		Let's go to...
		DJ in Florida.
		DJ, are you with us?
unidentified		Yeah, hey, I'm right here.
unidentified		Hey, look it, on your film, your latest film, you had the corner of the American Express building with 300-ton pieces of steel in it.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Sure thing.
unidentified		I think it was, what, 20 stories up?
		Yep. Okay, have you, has anybody got any films of taking that out of that?
		That was, you know, I showed that, just a special sequence to a lot of people.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		That had more impact I've got a video from Steven Rosenbaum that shows the cranes pulling that out.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		I believe they actually had to build a crane.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Actually, just for a construction site, they had to build up the crane, and then they had to actually maneuver it out of there.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
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		DJ, I thank you for the call.
		You know, yeah, again, you know, you have this huge beam embedded 400 feet away from the World Trade Center into a building around the 20th floor, and they have to build a special apparatus to take it out.
		Let's go to Betty in North Carolina.
		Betty, are you with us?
unidentified		Yes, I am.
		Hi, Jason.
		This is my first time calling in.
		Excellent. I've listened to Alex Jones' show now for over a year, and I was on vacation last April, and a guy from Tennessee would tell me about it, so that's how I know.
		I wanted to let you know that last year, September, I took my cat.
		And I told them no way.
		Now my question is, say if someone has to go into the hospital for like surgery, operation, can they microchip somebody without their consent?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they can do it without their consent yet.
		The only ones that I can say that they can do it without their consent are military personnel.
		Basically, you don't have a choice.
		You either leave the military and be court-martialed and go to military prison, or you have to take it.
		That's why earlier I was reading that article, how they had banned employers from forcing people in Missouri to take the chip, because this is a new popular thing.
		I suggest that you get on the internet, you go to YouTube, you type in Verichip.
		Actually, if you go to my blog, loosechange911.com, one of my really early blogs from, I believe, March or early April, I have about five or six videos of how far the chip has come, how it's being proposed by the Mexican government to chip all illegal aliens.
		In other words, people who are from Guatemala and below to come into the country.
		Instead of a passport, they want to chip these people.
		Betty, I thank you for the call.
		This is a brave new world, Jonathan, where they literally want to chip not just your pet, but human beings.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, and I was going to say that they're chipping people without their consent in other countries.
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		There's reports of that already coming out.
unidentified		If it's happening in the States, it would be happening against...
jonathan elinoff ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, remember, people can be botched, do whatever they want, so I wouldn't put it past anybody.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		Jonathan, thank you so much.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		It is the Alex Jones Show.
unidentified		Alex, of course, in Chantilly, Virginia, at the Bilderberg meeting.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Hopefully he'll be checking in in the next hour.
		If you missed any of the first hour with Alex and Jim Tucker, we'll be replaying that on a loop over at InfoWars.com.
		But now we have a real treat for you.
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		We've got him for the next 30 minutes.
		Daniel, how are you?
unidentified		I'm very well, thank you.
		I'm not sure.
		Unfortunately, I can't attend this year's Bill of a Conference because, as a matter of fact, I was told by friends in the United States to stay away and stay out.
		Apparently, the Homeland Security, your Homeland Security, was preparing quite a welcome party for me, and we just all felt it was better for me to stay away.
		And I'll let Alex and Big Jim Tucker to take care of it right there in C20.
		Thank you.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and you know this is the first time it's been in Chantilly, Virginia since 2002 and in 2002 I believe that was the first Bilderberg meeting after 9-11.
		This is where they set the policy to go into Iraq in 2003 and I made the point earlier that by having it in Washington DC it gives them a lot more access to military personnel, Washington insiders and bureaucrats within the system To stop by just for maybe a short conference or a short meeting and not have to attend the entire weekend.
		What do you think?
unidentified		Well, actually, the way it usually works, and I do have access to the documents which I publish, some of these documents, internal Billiberger documents, in my book, The True Story of the Billiberger Group, the people who attend, they're required to stay for the entire weekend.
		It was an exception in 2002 when the former Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, Uh, was invited, was told, made to appear, uh, and literally, uh, at the biggest spot of the Bill of Rights, the European and the American delegations, went at it toe-to-toe.
		The Americans, of course, wanted immediate war, and the Europeans were terrified, especially with the galvanized effort from the people in Europe, who said, in mass, no to war.
		More than a hundred million people there in 2002 came out to say no to war, and Rousseau called in And basically he promised on behalf of the President of the United States that the war was going to be postponed until 2003, as it was, as Jim Tucker and I reported back in 2002.
		But again, the people who attend, they must stay for the entire conference.
		I have documents in my book which actually state to the attendees that they are required to stay from Thursday through Saturday and to participate in all the debates and the discussions.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So what do you think is on the agenda this year?
		Obviously we have the presidential race over in the United States.
		We have the invasion of Iran on the table.
		We have skyrocketing gas prices.
		We even have food rationing going on now in this country in New York.
		They're limiting the amount of rice and wheat that you can buy in certain stores.
		Are these going to be the topics they're discussing, or am I missing something?
		What do you think?
unidentified		You know, you pretty much are.
		Again, I already have the double end here, about 10,000 kilometers away from where the meeting is being held.
		I already know what these people are going to be talking about.
		And again, the number one item is the Builderbergers' view on China as an inevitable strategic threat.
		Now, the stakes are extraordinarily high.
		For Builderbergers, the threat is to maintain It's position of power and its status as an unchallenged shadow world government on the one hand, and also on the other hand, wholesale destruction of the homogenous nation, which in this case is China.
		And for the Chinese, the survival of its one-party communist rule, and of course what we're witnessing right now, the high oil prices, which I predicted back in 2005 after the meeting in Rotterdam in Germany, When I said that the oil is going to go to about $150 a barrel, again, it's all on the internet, people can see it, and it's also in the true story of the Deliver Group and one of my Deliver Reports.
		I said back in 2005 that oil is going to go, by 2009, to $150 a barrel.
		Why? Why are they doing this?
		Because again, for the Chinese, the only way they can maintain their double-digit growth is through cheap oil.
		When the oil goes through the roof, as it is going through the roof right now, and it's Gotta go higher, as the European Central Bank also warned, and the European Parliament, of course.
		These both organisms are members of the Bilderberg inner circle.
		We're witnessing right now the intent by the Bilderberg elite to destroy the Chinese.
		Of course, it's a very dangerous game, because both the United States and the Chinese, and also the Russians, have nuclear weapons.
		And again, the Chinese know exactly what is being done to them, because the same thing was done about 20 years ago.
		To the Russians, only in the opposite direction.
		They reduced the oil prices dramatically, and the Russian, the Soviet economy then crumbled into oblivion.
		Russians had oil, they couldn't sell it for a lot of money, so they had no money.
		Now they're doing exactly the opposite with the Chinese, because the Chinese have no oil, and they literally have to import most of it from abroad.
		So by pushing it higher, by manipulating the markets, Which is exactly what is being done right now.
		They're manipulating the markets to get the oil to go to $150 a barrel.
		So forget about cheap oil, cheap gasoline.
		It's only going to get higher, and it's only going to be more expensive.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		December, you had discussed that these elites were very concerned with the movement behind Ron Paul and the freedom movement and the fact that he was quite a popular candidate.
		He now has had a number one New York Times bestselling book.
		Is he going to be on the agenda?
		Are they going to be discussing, you know, Ron Paul, his followers, this freedom movement?
		Do you think that's going to be on the table?
unidentified		No, again, these are global issues and, you know, the role of Paul might be discussed somewhere during lunch conversation or, you know, after cocktails, but they're not going to waste all these people's time talking about Ron Paul.
		and also uh...
		to most people are called not an issue And to the people, especially the American representatives, who may consider wrong-fall an issue, they will discuss it in closed-door meetings, behind closed doors, so that most people won't be able to even know what is being said in this country.
		Because, again, there's one, the Buildover Conference, where 120, 125 people meet, and they hear what everybody thinks.
		And then you have the steering committee, the inner circle, which is about 50, 60 people who attend annually all of these conferences.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		And, of course, the biggest decisions, the long-range decisions that affect humanity, Well, it's become evident in this country that this administration definitely wants to go to war with Iran.
		We've taken over Afghanistan, we've taken over Iraq.
		If we were able to, you know, establish a presence in Iran and go into that country, take it over, it seems like we would be that much closer You know,
unidentified		in 2005, again, when they met in Germany, I said, uh, Iran wars are on the table.
		I've been saying Iran wars are on the table for the past three and a half years.
		And I still say Iran war is off the table, although there are certain people within the American administration who are absolutely eager and desperate on getting this war going before Bush is out of office.
		Iran war is off the table.
		I know you can't read my lips, but I'm saying it over and over again, because again, European builders have drawn the line, the proverbial line in the sand, and have told the American delegation and the American government to stay out of there.
		And again, while the people, you can see that the Iran war is off the table, By understanding the behind-the-scenes movements, especially in the United States elections.
		The Barack Obama nomination is really no surprise because, again, if you keep in mind that the man who controls Obama, his controller, is a man by the name of Zbigniew Brzezinski, the co-founder of the Trilateral Commission.
		He's one of the key members of the Bilderberg inner circle, and of course one of the people in the Land Institute.
		And it's Brzezinski who is organizing the new strategy.
		And the new strategy is Syria and Iran along with the enemies, the new enemies are China, Russia, and Pakistan.
		And again, the first solver in that new war was the assassination of Benazir Bhutto.
		You're witnessing right now a lot of orators being made against the Russians.
		And of course, the high oil prices is a key element in the war against China.
		And very, very interesting is one of the key sub-points, just sort it down because I just got on the phone with a source, to be discussed this year's Bilderberg is the Chinese vulnerability to economic attack.
		Now, Rand, again, Rand is a big new Brzezinski's domain, has just issued a secret report that stated unequivocally that, I quote, China is at a disadvantage if any form of economic warfare can be turned into protracted struggles.
		Sorry, I'm just reading my chicken scribble.
		I can't quite see what it said.
		Anyway, so the point is, again, Rand is on the agenda.
		Brzezinski is there, and again, the people who are leading this new attack into the near future are the same people.
		I think basically when Ian for Obama is elected president, we might wish for the good old days of George W. Bush, because we're pushing skin power at the men behind the throne
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		I mean, just do a Google image search on Brzezinski and you'll see him with the quote-unquote freedom fighters and he's anything but a freedom fighter.
		He's a hardcore globalist.
		Now you mentioned something that Pakistan is going to suddenly become the enemy and that seems like sort of a flip from the last almost seven years uh...
		since nine eleven when they were declared allied there was some there was some rhetoric and some talk of pakistan initially you know being an enemy colin powell and others mention them joe biden mentioned them uh...
		but then they decided to allow us to put our troops at their for launch against other nations and they've been defended even though you know it's been said bin laden has been in the tribal lands for the last four five years So you're saying that now it's going to be a complete 180, the United States is going to consider Pakistan the enemy, and do you think that they're going to use, you know, this Bin Laden propaganda as their tool?
unidentified		Well, again, if you look historically, especially, we don't have to go very far in history, we just have to go back about, you know, two decades.
		They tried to destroy Russia by joining forces with the Chinese, who of course were supporting the Taliban against the Russians, and they destroyed the Soviet Union, almost wiped it off the map.
		Now they're doing the same thing against the Chinese, And of course, the greatest manufacturer of this entire orchestrated attack on the Chinese by pushing the oil prices up.
		Of course, Russia, which is one of, you know, the second biggest oil producer in the world.
		And the same thing, you're looking again, the interest changed, geopolitics changed, and you have the Pakistanis, who were American friends, or were never really American friends, they were just, you know, friends of convenience.
		And now, again, who are the Chinese, who are the Americans?
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		So with Brzezinski's involvement with this Well,
		Do you feel that he's going to keep his quote-unquote promises to end the war in Iraq?
		Are they going to redirect troops?
		What do you think?
		What do you think is the plan?
		How are they going to do this?
unidentified		I don't know because, you know, between now and November a lot can still happen.
		And again, Ron Paul is still in the election.
		Nobody really pushed him out.
		And there's still a lot to be said, because again, for example, I just got back a couple of...
		Last week I was in Cancun, in Mexico, at a very important international conference called PQI.
		And a lot of people from around the world, especially the United States, came.
		And again, it's kind of an anti-buildable movement.
		a lot of people who have a lot of influence on the world stage in decision-making, so Some people attended very important secret meetings.
		Representatives of private organizations from around the world came and offered their help.
		Multimillionaires offered money to put up resistance to the Bilderberg world plans.
		So there's a lot still to be said by the world community.
		Things are not going as quickly as Bilderberg would like them to go.
		They're going too fast, as far as we're concerned, but not nearly as fast as the Bilderbergers wish.
		And between now and November, a lot can still happen.
		Again, John McCain is a very sick man, and there's no guarantee that he would make it to be the president of the United States.
		Yeah, but they're attending as actual members.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		not attending to actually report on the Bilderberg group.
unidentified		That's exactly what I mean.
		They're part of the group, and obviously none of it is going to be heard in Europe or in the United States.
		There's not a lot being said in Europe either because most people see this as some kind of a peripheral thing and some kind of a movement put forward by conspiracy theories.
		My book has precipitated to a great extent this, you know, particular theory of the buildable roulette duck cabal.
		But still, there's just too many people out there who unfortunately believe that what is on mainstream television, on the front page of the New York Times and the Washington Post, is the truth and the news.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's no doubt within the last few years this stuff has exploded on the world stage and more and more people are actually waking up to the fact that Bilderberg doesn't does indeed exist they do indeed set policy and I think you can see that with even Bill Clinton now admitting that
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		he attended Bilderberg and they indeed do set policy there he denied that he was there to set any policy in the United States said he was there to discuss with some Europeans what was gonna happen in Russia but from you know the Bilderberg doesn't exist to the Bilderberg exist but they don't do anything it's just a weekend retreat to now they set policy Uh, this is huge that we have these, you know, world leaders actually admitting to this.
unidentified		Well, it is to a point, but again, I think not enough people are paying attention.
		I think, you know, we're really running out of time.
		The window of opportunity to win this and turn this around is closing very quickly.
		So unless people wake up and get this straight and get this right, again, I've been saying this for a long time.
		I'm going to say this again, take advantage of it, is that the United States no longer has a country to call your own.
		Okay? You no longer have a government that protects you.
		The Supreme Court doesn't work for you.
		The Congressmen and the Senators are not there to protect your rights.
		You don't have a Constitution, and you don't have a Bill of Rights.
		You have nothing.
		You don't have a flag, and you don't have the national anthem.
		You can still sing along.
		It's no longer yours.
		It's been taken over.
		And the war against terror is not against the terrorists.
		It's against us, the people.
		We, the people, especially the people who love freedom, are the biggest enemy of the Builderberg Group, which is one of the reasons I can't go to this meeting, because, again, they would have loved to have me there because I would have been apprehended and obviously put in prison. So, again, the war on terror is not against the terrorists.
		It's against us, the people.
		And we better get this straight very, very quickly unless we want to join so many others in concentration camps around the world.
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		You can get that at Infowars.com.
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jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back with one final segment with Daniel Estelan, the international best-selling author of the true story of the Bilderberg Group.
		And Daniel, you were saying, you know, we are running out of time, we need to do something.
		In this last small segment, why don't you give out some of the solutions you think that we can use?
unidentified		Well, I think the most important thing is people have to understand how money works.
		That's one of the greatest concerns for anybody who wants to stay free.
		We don't understand debt, and we don't understand money.
		We don't understand how to spend it, and what we can do with it, and also how we can use the power of money to destroy Billiberg and their cohorts.
		For example, a few months ago, if you recall, in England, there was a run on Northern Rock.
		That's one of the oldest banks in the United Kingdom.
		And again, it literally, overnight, Several billion dollars worth of funds were taken out, withdrawn by the people.
		An entire British system was alarmed, and obviously the Bank of England, the Queen's Treasury had to step in and save up any kind of destruction of the financial sector.
		This is one of the key things we must understand.
		If we withdraw the money from the banks and use the power of funds, and we can actually make that money work for us, what to do with the money once we withdraw it?
		Well, we can buy precious metals, gold, silver.
		Silver is going to keep going up to about $35 or $40 announced.
		It's about $16 or $17.
		I don't know what it is at the moment.
		At least it was a couple of days ago.
		So that's always a very good investment.
		Ask for physical delivery of products because, again, if you're buying paper gold, there's about five, six times more paper gold than the actual physical gold.
		That's one of the solutions.
		Working together with small communities, self-sustained communities, Well, we no longer need to rely on the system itself.
		Work outside the system.
		I know it's really difficult to do that when you're living in big metropolitans such as New York City, but there's a lot of rural communities and more and more people, especially in Europe, and in Canada as well, are moving to smaller, relocating to smaller areas where there are fewer people, more land, and they're working together with other people.
		This is one way we can make this work.
		And obviously, again, please get out of debt.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		They love you to be in debt so that they can take your home, your car, and really control the way that you live.
		And hard currency is the answer to that.
		Precious metals are going to maintain their value throughout history.
		I mean, they've maintained their value for thousands of years, folks.
		And gold and silver are always going to be a smart investment.
		In closing, Daniel, what do you think?
		How do we spread this information?
		Obviously, you're an author.
		I'm a documentary filmmaker.
		You know, I'm trying to reach as many people as possible.
		We obviously have to talk to our friends, our family members about this.
		But when are we going to have the mainstream breakthrough?
		Will it ever come?
unidentified		Well, you know, I don't think we need the mainstream.
		We can win this war, as my publisher Chris Milligan says, we can win this war with pots and pans.
		There is no such thing as armed confrontation, because it will destroy us, because they're far more powerful than we are.
		But there are a few of them, and we're many.
		There's over six and a half Billion people standing on our side.
		There are very few allies to choose from.
		I, you know, I recall, please, that Giuliani tried to get his driver, you know, to be one of the people in the Homeland Security.
		That's how deep their talent base goes.
		We have six and a half billion people to choose from.
		We have a lot of people on our side.
		What is important, when we speak and friends of friends speak to others to try to get them to join the fight, we've got to make sure we stay in the mainstream and we sound credible, meaning that when people ask questions, because they will, because it is so new to so many people, again, so few people can understand how is it possible that such a small group of people control the entire humanity.
		It's very important that when you explain it to others, the explanation sounds sensible and credible, otherwise we'll lose them.
		And this is the worst thing that could possibly happen to us.
		We need as many people on our side as possible.
		The window of opportunity is closing.
		And again, people, what they need to understand is what we're witnessing right now, this is not an accident.
		I saw this about 10 or 11 years ago.
		I told Alex, I think in December, that what we're witnessing is demand destruction.
		It was a phrase in one of the Bilderberg reports.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		All right, Daniel, thank you so much for joining us.
jason bermas ▲ ● ▼		His book is The True Story of the Bilderberg Club.
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