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unidentified		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is the 29th day of May 2008.
		We are accelerating quickly towards the InfoWars Money Bomb coming up this Saturday.
		I'll be live for a special edition just on the internet streams at InfoWars.com.
		And for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, the whole bunch of special guests and your phone calls for the four hours from 8 to midnight Central Standard Time.
		That's 9 p.m. to 1 a.m. Eastern.
		Then of course I'll be back Sunday, live, 4 to 6 p.m., but it is Thursday.
		This week is far from over.
		Next Wednesday, I'm going to be in Virginia, getting ready for that trip.
		Burmess will be sitting in Tuesday, though I'll still be in town.
		Burmess will be sitting in, Jason Burmess is down there making a film with us for the next few months.
		He'll be sitting in Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
		And I'll be doing live call-ins as well as other shows on Saturday, and then I come back next, not this Sunday, but the upcoming Sunday, back to Austin, Texas.
		We'll be covering Bilderberg 2008 in Chantilly, Virginia, right outside the District of Criminals.
		Hope to see everybody out there.
		A lot of big guests lined up for you today.
		Gerald Goldstein, a lawyer here in Texas.
		He was very upset about the fact that police claim they're going to pull you over and forcibly take your blood on the side of the road.
		This is an amazing invasion of privacy, invasion of the Fourth Amendment, crossing boundaries.
		That's what it's all about.
		Then William Pepper, one of the lawyers for Bobby Kennedy, he'll be coming on, exposing the fact that they murdered not just Bobby, but of course, RFK.
		So William Pepper joining us.
		Coming up in one hour, Eric Nordstrom, who came up with the original Ron Paul money bomb, is doing the Infowars money bomb.
		He's popping in for about 15 minutes in the third hour, and then Richard Gage in the fourth hour today.
		Richard Gage, architects and engineers for 9-11 Truth.
		So that is coming up as well.
		Jam-packed broadcast for you on this Thursday edition.
		Okay, I have no exaggeration about a hundred plus articles probably here in front of me that I want to go over, and I'm going to attempt in the next 30 minutes to give you a shotgun coverage of these, and then in the third hour, again we've got the money bomb going for only about 15 minutes,
		I'll spend 45 minutes focusing in on the martial law, Marine Corps story, the Economic angle of what's happening also, more detail on that, and focusing in on the Scott McClellan White House press secretary situation.
		Just a comment on that.
		Now, the media is freaking out going, is it true?
		Oh my gosh, is he a traitor?
		Oh, you know, is it a conspiracy theory?
		We have White House memos, White House documents, we have CIA assessments, we have Bush speechwriters.
		It's kind of like I had Vincent Bugliosi on a few days ago, and he said, yes, our government in the White House memo wanted to stage an event, and I said, yeah, shooting down, or getting a U.N. plane, or U.S. plane, a U.N. plane shot down and blaming it on Saddam.
		And he said, yes, you read that in my book.
		And I didn't go, no, I didn't read that in your hot new book that's in my film Terror Storm out two years ago.
		But, you know, the point here is, I guess to the media it is a secret, because the media is so lazy and just republishes government press releases.
		In some cases, it's not even government control and manipulation, though there's news about that today, with CNN and Fox and others engaged in propaganda and lying and covering all this up.
		But the White House premeditatedly falsified uranium documents, aluminum tube documents, nuke documents.
		I mean, This is a White House that has the son of the ADL head dressed up on TV saying he's going to kill us with WMDs every two weeks.
		I mean, this is a government that runs real al-Qaeda attacks on Iran and then tries to ban Dunkin' Donuts ads because a woman's wearing a scarf.
		You know, let's do something absurd.
		Let's get a Dunkin' Donuts ad banned because a woman's got a scarf on, but then let's have the government run al-Qaeda.
		It's just disgusting.
unidentified		It is a big idea.
unidentified		A New World Order.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful new government.
unidentified		It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
unidentified		Could their objective be world domination?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For thousands of years, their dark order grew.
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		You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.
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unidentified		Most people have no idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're not after money.
unidentified		They have all the money they need.
		They're after power.
		That's what they're after these years.
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		Because there's a war on for your mind.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, here is some of the news in front of me.
		Marines bringing combat training to Indianapolis, Indiana.
		Czech President Klaus ready to debate Gore on climate change.
		UN to have the last say on Arctic seabed claims.
		Now the global government.
		North American Parliament underway.
		That's right, North American Parliament operating right now.
		Jerome Corsi reporting on that.
		Got him coming on tomorrow.
		In Miami, Spanish is becoming the primary language.
		Texas town, immigrant renting rule is struck down.
		That's right.
		They can ask you if you're a criminal, they can run a background check on you.
		But if you're a felony, felon, illegal alien, they are not allowed to stop you.
		Again, above the law.
		Federal court criminally ruling that.
		Because illegal aliens are first-class citizens for now, as they're inducted into being slave Americans.
		You see, slaves get in, they don't get out.
		The fences they're building are to keep Americans in, by the way.
		They're just going to legalize with a guest worker program all the illegals.
		That's admitted in all the federal documents on land security.
		Texas town immigrant renting rule is struck down.
		CNN's executive reporting network execs killed critical White House stories.
		Oh, really?
		They did?
		Tell me something we didn't know.
		We have a bunch of different articles about Scott McClellan with ex-colleagues ask, what happened?
		Former Bush aide stuns many with critical new book.
		Oh my gosh.
		Pelosi chimes in politically saying, I totally agree.
		See, it's a jumping ship to the Democrats.
		The, uh, his mother, who's had like 18 husbands in his, oh let's be serious, six different husbands.
		She's like a black widow here in Austin.
		Uh, is her name Strayhorn right now?
		Or is it Mc...
		I mean, literally it changes every six months.
		Uh, one of the richest, most powerful women in Texas lives right here in Austin, down the street from where we're at.
		Very dangerous to even talk about her.
		Uh, Rupert Murdoch's coming out and saying that The Democrats are going to sweep everything.
		They're totally taking over, and that's what's going to happen.
		Probably. Now, Murdoch did predict, along with Newt Gingrich, that it would be Hillary getting the nomination.
		So we'll see if he's going to be wrong, but he is one of the top kingmakers in media and culture.
		It's just going to be a reign of micromanagement, terror, more terror attacks, more control.
		Suddenly Democrats are going to love it.
		Suddenly those that didn't like Bush's martial law system are going to love it, because it wasn't Bush's martial law system.
		They have been quietly integrating Marines, Army, into local police departments, engaging in posse commentatus felonies by the hundreds of thousands since the 70s.
		We're going to cover that later today.
		This is a long-term strategic plan that we're now coming to the end of.
		You know, they, uh, they tend to take your shirt off and cut your hair short and they bind your hands, bind your feet when they carry you up to the guillotine.
		And this was the shaving the head or cutting the hair so it doesn't get in the way so you get a clean cut.
		This is the sharpening the blade.
		You know, first they had to build the guillotine to cut America's head off.
		They had to train the executioners, the police.
		They had to get the crowd all ready.
		They had to prepare the public.
		And so now the country is having its head stuck in the block and they are pulling the guillotine blade up to the top.
		And getting ready to pull the lever.
		So we're at that moment of truth.
		Kind of like you wait for Christmas when you're a little kid.
		I mean those summer days that just go on and on.
		They seem like they're never going to end.
		But before you know it, it's Christmas.
		And before you know it, you're 20 years old, you're 30 years old, you're 40 years old, your kids are in college, you're 65, you're a grandparent.
		Before you know it, you're on your deathbed.
	Well, we're here.
	It's kind of the time now.
	The head's going in.
	It's sick and sad and painful for me, but in a lot of ways, a lot of scum that have supported this evil are now going to get what you wanted all along.
	A lot of you that giggled and laughed and served the system.
unidentified		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		McClellan says, uh, WH wanted him to stay silent.
		White House.
		White House reacts negatively to ex-AIDS book.
		Investigators raid German telecom giant in spy probe.
		Spying for globalists.
		Like I said, Rupert Murdoch predicts a landslide for the Democrats outside of Reuters.
		Dollar rises to two-week high as Fisher signals rate cuts, and that rates may rise, that rate cuts may be over interest rates.
		And again, if you call the dollar going up half a penny in the last two weeks, the dollar rising, fine and dandy.
		But we see this every month, the cycle.
		It goes down two steps, goes back up a step, goes back down two steps, and that's the graph.
		Meanwhile, it just gives people enough hope to not pull out of dollars while the globalists are able to position their wealth.
		When they finally get done doing that, they'll drop the hammer on you.
		Drop the guillotine on you.
		New Jersey, Texas court scraps awards from Vioxx cases.
		That's right, they admit it caused all those tens of thousands of heart attacks and deaths, but you know, so what?
		Doesn't matter.
		Oil prices, Bounce around after dropping U.S. supply.
		Oil prices surged upwards.
		Get into that later.
		Bonds fall again amid rising inflation fears.
		Banks set aside record $37 billion in losses.
		FDIC says troubled real estate loans force U.S. banks to boost loan loss provisions to record $37.1 billion in the first quarter of 2008, compared to $9.2 billion in the year-ago period.
		The Federal Deposit Insurance said Thursday, and the FDIC should get ready for massive bank failures.
		I've got that report here.
		There's lots of big mainstream media reports about $15 billion missing, but the only reason you're hearing about that is that stolen computers, stolen rifles, stolen hand grenades, rocket launchers, trucks, weapon systems, Telecommunications, equipment, radar.
		That's paltry.
		See, they'll report on low-level thieving, but they won't talk about, well, AP did, but it never got any national attention.
		A few other papers did.
		The Oregonian did, when it was 1.9 trill six years ago.
		It's now well over 4 trillion.
		Last time I saw a congressional report, that was about a year ago.
		And people then again say, Their budget's only $800 billion a year for defense, was $400 billion when they started, when Bush got in.
		Again, the pension funds, the investments, all the money that was piled up by the Pentagon, ferreted into accounts.
		It's gone.
unidentified		you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And if you try to arrest anybody that did it, they'll just set a nuke off and say a guy in a cave did it, or they'll shot out an ADL head's grandson with a fake beard on that you can see is fake on video, and he'll tell you how he's going to kill you if you don't submit to them stealing everything.
		If you don't submit to just total looting, stealing, thieving at every level you can imagine, just grabbing up infrastructure, militarizing police, building huge prisons everywhere.
		Oh, man, I can't believe this is happening.
		So everybody's talking about $15 billion.
		That's what their low-level people still...
		Folks, it was over $60 billion a year ago.
		I ought to pull up the latest numbers.
		What the media admits, where C-130s fly in every week with billions of dollars of hundreds, fifties, and twenties, and they give privates $30,000 a year on average, and then tell them, oh, you're part of the corruption now.
		We can selectively arrest you for that.
		Again, a colonel gets as much as a million a year, and it's unknown what generals get.
		I mean, of course those guys only want to be generals there for 3-4 months on average, and then leave for 4 months.
		Because they're given hundreds of millions.
		I mean, this is the corrupting.
		This is how the mob does it.
		It's just mob tactics.
		And then it comes out, yeah, we're giving everybody money, aren't you, for supporting the troops.
		And then, just because the troops get 30 grand a piece a year, uh, you know, a private sergeant gets like a 50, 60, 70, 100 grand, depends on what type of sergeant.
		Can you imagine and so that's why there's been three trillion three trillion pumped in the last five years four months Three trillion pumped into that black hole No, and that's not counting the four trillion I stole out of pension funds and in Pentagon investments under the comprehensive annual financial report system So that's what we see four trillion and then three trillion Seven Trillion.
		You see, the cops and the militarization of the prisons, that's just a rearguard.
		All the money's leaving the country.
		Been leaving for four or five years.
		They're all leaving.
		I mean, they're not even having penthouses in New York anymore.
		They're just going.
		And their rearguard action, when we get left holding the bag of total debt, totally on our name, we're just going to be left with a bunch of idiots with shaved heads and black uniforms.
		Oh man, this is sick!
		This is sick!
		I mean, there's never been bank robberies like this.
		There's never been heists.
		These are the greatest criminals the world's ever seen.
		That's all Globalist are.
		They built an international law system where it's legal for them to steal.
		They're then international, outside any country.
		And now they're not done.
		Now they're going to move on to taxing our breathing, to taxing everything we do, every facet of our lives, inspectors in our homes, jail time for the most petty of things.
		Like I said, a battery, a AA battery in your backyard, four years in prison.
		I mean, they're admitting all this.
		A credit card, you've got to swipe for your carbon credits.
		And then when you, quote, consume too much, they tax you on your card.
		Like I told you years ago, that was in the federal plans, international UN plans.
		They're going to call it a national sales tax.
		It's a global tax.
		I mean, folks.
		And I know you're laughing now.
		Just as it all happens and as it all unfolds, exactly as we told you it would, just remember I warned you.
		I mean, I cannot express how bad it is.
		They've sucked us dry so we don't ever get the country back under our control and go arrest them.
		They are going to put us into martial law.
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		back.
		Like every day I watch it and listen and call them all suckers.
		They wanted me about Osama or whatever.
		Picture me buying the scam.
		I said never.
		You in tune to a hard truth soldier spitting.
		I stay committed.
		Gizzo. I lose commission.
		It's all about a fighting devil state mind control and all about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm bitter, I'm angry, I'm upset.
		I have all the official government documents.
		I have Marines that were illegally raiding American gun owners' homes in the 80s in Virginia.
		Part of a huge secret martial law takeover plan.
		They've been doing this for decades.
		I know all these urban warfare drills are to acclimate and prepare the public to have their cities taken over by the U.S. military.
		I go into the YouTube and video sites where they have clips of my films and I see marines and cops talking about how I'm a traitor and need to be arrested and so whatever they're getting ready to take over America.
		I mean, you know what?
		I think most of them are going to go for it and do it.
		And they think Power and authority is where everything flows from and if the government tells them to do something, that's fine.
		Now you have the other crowd that will conversely deny all of this is happening and say the Marines are just going in to that city in Indianapolis, Indiana.
		They're just going in there to find out what's going on and to train them how to fight al-Qaeda in Iraq.
		Meanwhile, our government publicly runs al-Qaeda in Iraq and is commanding them and running operations for four plus years attacking the Iranians.
		So, it's just unbelievable.
		It's unbelievable that this type of stuff is going on.
		Marines bringing combat training to Indianapolis.
		Indianapolis Star, listen to this, U.S. Marine helicopters will land at the old Eagle Gate Consumer Mall, Brookside Park, and other Indianapolis locations when the city becomes a mock battlefield next week.
		About 2,300 Marines, they bring in the new ones for this.
		Uh, from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit based at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.
		We'll conduct urban warfare training from Wednesday through June 19th in and around Indianapolis.
		Now, they tell the low-level grunts that this is for overseas in, quote, in case there's an emergency in America.
		But then they field them out into other operations after that.
		Most of the troops will be deployed in the Indiana State Fairgrounds and the Raytheon facility at Holt Road, uh, said Debbie Fletcher.
		For the Indianapolis-Marion County Emergency Management Agency.
		See, that's who they're working with.
		Oh, getting to know the local emergency managers.
		We don't want anyone thinking that there's an invasion happening or that we've declared martial law or something like that, Fletcher said.
		We've got to get her on.
unidentified		We've got to get her on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Marines have been cleared by state, federal, and local authorities, Fletcher said.
		The unit's commander promised to keep, try to keep the noise at a minimum, and gave the neighbors plenty of warning.
		It goes on to say they'll be, quote, running roadside checkpoints.
		Now, in Swansboro, North Carolina, in Des Moines, Iowa, we have newscasts showing this.
		We have video we got ourselves, as well.
		The Marines will actually pull over real cars, but a cop will pull you over, and the Marines come over and do the search.
		I mean, total Indo-Paci-Commentatus, totally criminal, Uh, even the way they've, quote, amended it is, but they don't care.
		Don't forget it was the Marines that the Bush senior's, uh, father, Prescott Bush, tried to hire, uh, and have Smedley Butler, two-time Congressional Medal of Honor winner, he testified before Congress, to overthrow the government and use Marines as the main army to do it.
		So the Marines have always been who they have their eye on to do this.
		And they've given them questionnaires in the 80s and 90s, and it's just, it's, it's unbelievable treason.
		It's Wendley Butler, two-time Congressional Medal of Honor winner, in line to be commandant.
		And he said, I will not do this, as the commandant of the Marine Corps.
		And they said, OK, you're not commandant.
		And it's supposed to be like a captain's list in the old British Navy, the way the Marines are set up, as they go back to that, is that it's a succession there, unlike the Army and other things.
		There's somewhat of a succession there, as well, in the Admiral's list.
		But with the Marine Corps, it's really a succession.
		And he was supposed to be the greatest commandant ever.
		I mean, none of them had two...
		Nobody's got two Medal of Honors but Smedley Butler.
		The guy makes Audie Murphy look like a...
		I don't want to say a wimp, but...
		Pale in significance, we'll just say that.
		Unbelievable. He said, no, I will not take over and have a fascist dictatorship, and I won't be the military general that runs it.
		Oh, God help us.
		But we don't have generals like that now.
		I mean, if you're a general in the military that's been in Iraq, you've taken hundreds of millions, or you've been killed.
		That's why so many have been murdered and killed and, quote, committed suicide.
		It goes on to say our aim in Indianapolis is to expose our Marines to realistic scenarios and stress posed by operating in an actual urban community, thereby increasing the proficiency in built-up areas.
		And Colonel Mark Dennis, commander of the 26th MEU, said in a statement, while some of the activity will take place in Camp Atterbury, residents in many areas will see helicopters flying around, military vehicles on the roads, and Marines patrolling on foot, as well as checkpoints.
		All right, and then it comes back.
		We'll come back with the guests and get into more.
unidentified		We're on the march.
		The Empire's on the run.
		Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
		It is a big idea.
		A new world order.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.
unidentified		It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
unidentified		Put their objective to be world domination.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For thousands of years, their dark order grew.
		Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.
		For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.
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		It's going to be a bloody weekend in San Antonio.
		For the first time ever, if you refuse to submit to a breathalyzer, police Well, take your blood, with or without your consent.
		Amanda Stanzlis is live with that story.
		Amanda? Well, we all know that Memorial Day weekend is a big weekend for barbecues, for a few beers maybe.
		So, the idea behind this no-refusal weekend is to keep these roads safe.
		But, the debate becomes whether taking blood is fair.
		This memorial weekend is a no-refusal weekend.
		Yes, this weekend.
		If you get stopped by cops because they think you were drinking and driving, you'll be asked to take a breathalyzer.
		You refuse, and they will take your blood.
		All right.
		I think that's just not fair.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, that's the propaganda.
		By the way, I'm here on South Lamar in Austin.
		There's guys out with sandwich boards for sandwich shops, for tax preparing, for a furniture store.
		Right now, I drove to work this morning and saw them.
		And, uh, but if I go out there with a Ron Paul sign, there's a good chance, because it's happened.
		Cops will pull over and say, you can't be here, you can't stand with the sign.
		They just lost another lawsuit over that.
		They don't care, it's just our money.
		Because they've been told, for everyone's safety, you don't have a First Amendment.
		See, it's always for your safety.
		And, oh, we gotta stop the drunk drivers, that's why they're building liquor stores the size of aircraft carriers.
		Uh, I mean, now, literally, there's one in Kyle, outside Austin, the size of an Nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.
		It's the size of a Walmart.
		I mean, the thing is, I say aircraft carrier because it's long.
		It's just gigantic.
		It's so huge, I've never seen anything like it.
		And of course, when the cops aren't stumbling around drunk, everybody knows they're the biggest lushes out there.
		And do I want somebody weaving drunk in front of me?
		No. I see drunks all the time weaving around down the road.
		And that's what we need, is cops out picking them out.
		But no, it's random checkpoints and random enforcement areas in these roving teams and shotgun effect, as they call it, where they just randomly pull you over now and come over and inspect you and then let you go.
		And that's not America.
		Now, in some areas of Illinois, Ohio, California, Tucson, Arizona, they do it in Denver, outside Denver, in Colorado.
		I mean, I've seen hundreds of articles just all over the country.
		Florida, they take your blood on the side of the road.
		on the side of the road.
		In some areas of Texas, they're doing that.
		In other areas, they call it into a judge, and then it's really a fake warrant, and they call it back and claim there's a warrant, and the cop sticks a needle.
		This is about invasion of your privacy, about getting across barriers.
		It's about letting you know who the boss is.
		And joining us is a Texas lawyer who spoke out on the piece, Gerald Goldstein, and we'll get his take on everything that's happening here.
		Mr. Goldstein, thanks for coming on.
		My pleasure, Alex.
		What do you think about those other statements I made about how I don't have a First Amendment anymore in Austin?
		The cops tell me I can't stand right next to a guy with a sandwich board on the sidewalk for a furniture place, that I don't have a free speech either.
		Not just they're going to take my blood, but now there's no freedom either.
unidentified		Well, if you keep speaking up for free speech and people keep suing them, sooner or later the public will get wind of that and take account of that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think Austin's lost more than 50 lawsuits for this.
unidentified		Well, you know, at some point, when it's our money, we have a voice in that.
unidentified		And if the citizenry wants to take action, there's always the ballot box.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, with those special die-bold machines with all the convicted felons caught admitting they're stealing all the elections?
		Exactly. Yeah, things are getting dark right now in the country.
		Let's get in the blood.
		I'm sorry, I digress.
		Tell us a little bit about Gerald Goldstein, your practice, and why you got involved in this news piece.
		And they gave you about 10 seconds, Senate, what you really wanted to say.
unidentified		Well, I'm a past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers and also the Texas Association.
		I, like you, am a concerned citizen that is worried that we seem to be giving up and throwing away our constitutional rights and liberties in order to protect and preserve those precious rights.
		Thank you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely. Tell us about the particular in San Antonio and what's going on there and what the law and the rulings and precedent really say.
unidentified		Well, in essence, you were correct when you described what's going on.
		Taking blood is considered, at least by Supreme Court cases, a very intrusive concept.
		It's different than an intoxicalizer, what we used to call a breathalyzer, in that sticking a needle in someone is intrusive.
		And for that reason, they technically require a search warrant under Texas State.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a forced medical procedure.
unidentified		Exactly. Yeah,
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		they weren't even reviewing his show.
		This is judicial tyranny.
		You're not supposed to have rubber stamp warrants, are you?
unidentified		Exactly. Now let me stop you,
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		sir. Let me just ask you if you're aware, but it sounds like you are, in Arizona, in Colorado, in Illinois, they are taking blood, just the police are just doing it.
unidentified		Right, that's not true in Colorado yet, but in the other states, all of us are concerned about that.
unidentified		And by the way, the police officers, you know, you could have a police officer that's trained medically.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the media may have gotten that wrong.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But the Denver Papers did report that in the county next to it, they were taking blood without warrants.
unidentified		Right. What I think is, those were EMTs.
unidentified		They were actually trained, even though they were police officers.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But they're still not a warrant to suck the blood, is what I'm saying.
unidentified		Exactly. This is unbelievable.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So not even a rubber stamp.
		They're foregoing that.
		Now, you talked about how the rubber stamp is improper and unconstitutional.
		Now, can we talk about without even the rubber stamp, just foregoing the kangaroo court?
unidentified		Well, the Supreme Court, there's a case, actually, Schmerber v.
		California, that actually talks about the requirement for a warrant for an intrusive body invasion like that.
		And the reason for that is pretty obvious.
		There are medical procedures.
		Nobody wants to have a needle.
		What if a cop, an untrained police officer, for example, uses the same needle?
		You know, you've got all sorts of health concerns well beyond the safety of our roads, where someone with a dirty needle is injecting you.
		You've got hepatitis C. You've got HIV.
		There's all sorts of reasons why the last thing we need is to have untrained professionals sticking needles in each other.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Well remember how they tried in 2002 to train the police to forcibly inoculate the public during emergencies of the National Health Services Act and then that failed because the cops wouldn't take the vaccines.
		So I think there's something larger here because we know federal funds are the grants that are pushing this.
		Now your take on that, sir?
unidentified		Well, ultimately the taxpayer pays for all law enforcement measures.
		And there's an ancillary, secondary concern here, is for the most part when you get the...
		Some people don't like to be stuck with needles by anybody.
		And there's a question about the compulsion.
		For example, a lot of people will opt for the intoxilizer, even though it's supposed to be consensual, in lieu of having somebody stick a needle in them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, it's a threat.
unidentified		How consensual is it when somebody says, I'm going to stab you with this thing or you take this, you know, breathalyzer?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've seen reports where the cops taser you if you refuse the breathalyzer.
unidentified		Well, they shouldn't in Texas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's total insanity.
		Well, I mean, just at the organic level, as a human being looking at this, imagine if I was seeing old film footage of Nazi Germany, and if they weren't just rounding the people up to go to the death camps or the work camps.
		Imagine if I saw images of guys in black uniforms drawing blood.
unidentified		I don't want to start another fight, but quite frankly, you know, the Third Reich didn't impose its will on people.
		People that Hitler rode into power on a groundswell of popularity fanned by the same kind of fears you've been seeing today.
		Fear of people that are different.
		Fear of outsiders.
		Fear of foreign.
		The same kind of things that people have a tendency to give up rights very often in times of crisis.
		But what they don't realize is that's a non-reversible cog.
		What happens is if you think giving up your right is any way to protect and preserve that right, you're kidding yourself.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Mr. Goldstein, you're absolutely right.
		History shows that.
		Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin constantly talked about that.
		If you'll give up liberty for so-called security, you're going to get neither.
		And historically, what you should be afraid of is the organized state.
		It is always the great engine of mass murder and enslavement.
		Hundreds of millions killed by the state last century, and these poor ignorant fools have no idea.
		I mean, just the archetypal image of guys in paramilitary outfits sucking your blood.
		I mean, this is insane, sir.
unidentified		There's no question about it, Alex.
unidentified		If you'll keep preaching and get some more converts, we can actually stop this thing, because until the citizenry is willing to insist on their rights, we all are in danger of losing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Mr. Goldstein, I want to get your take on this.
		A, how do we stop it?
		B, you know, legally, what are they violating here so people know what to say if they come up on the bloodsuckers?
		But the larger issue here is, you know what it's going to be.
		It's not just, if you don't give me a breathalyzer, I'll take a shot.
		Now district attorneys, I saw one in Illinois, said, well, we want blood anyways because it's better in court.
		So next, it's just, we're going to take your blood.
		They're already taking DNA at checkpoints now.
unidentified		Well, all of that should concern the citizenry.
		You know, at some point here, we may have, you know, the Orwellian nightmare, you know, is almost a thing of the past.
		We've become accustomed to accepting these kind of practices.
		And it's only, you know, it's only when you're vigilant.
		It's only when you're willing to protest.
		It's only when you're willing to assert your rights.
		And, you know, these rights are designed to protect the innocent, not just the guilty.
		And it's important for people who aren't in trouble, people who aren't driving while they're drunk, but understand the necessity for insisting on protecting everyone's rights.
		Because it's only when we protect the rights of the least of us that the rest of us can expect to be protected ourselves.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		By the way, I should have told people your bio.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're just an absolutely, I mean, amazing lawyer with just an incredible pedigree, running some of the biggest national associations and, you know, one of the most looked up to experts on constitutional rights.
unidentified		You should say that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, I'm just looking at your bio here.
		It's amazing.
		In a nutshell, what do you do if you roll up, you haven't been drinking, no, I don't want to violate my Fourth Amendment, no, I don't want you making me do a breathalyzer, intimidating me into it.
		What do you do when they grab you, they'll taser you if you resist, they're coming with the needles?
		How do you go after them after the fact?
unidentified		Well, the natural inclination of everyone, and I will tell you that I've referred to Absolutely,
		And that's why you have a right to counsel is because to have someone else there, to have a lawyer there, to have someone who will speak up to your rights and mean it, not with a smirk, not with a smile, but because they're serious about it.
		And judges understand that.
		And, you know, it is only when all the citizenry stand up for their rights and stand up for the rights, not just in the courtroom, not just on the side of the road, but at the ballot box.
		Because these folks, for the most part, elected public officials, both in Texas, district attorneys and judges, have to run for re-election.
		And if they aren't respecting the rights of the citizens, it's up to the citizens to make sure that they will, that they do, and if not, to get someone in office who will protect individual citizens'rights and liberties.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, what would you do?
		I'm going to Virginia next week to cover a big elite government meeting, and I almost bet, because this happens all over the country, cops are going to walk up while I'm on a city sidewalk, you know, there in Virginia, and they're going to come up and say, you're not allowed to be here with your cameras, I don't care if you have a press pass, just leave.
		And then there'll be a national crew there, they'll probably leave them alone.
		It always hurts my, I mean, I'm sad for them, stabbing America in the heart.
		Or if I was to have a protest sign, there's going to be protesters there.
		I bet cops will come up and say, leave, you don't have a permit.
		And of course, that's how all this works.
		They turn a right into a privilege.
		A permit is a license to do something that would be illegal.
		I don't need a permit.
		You know, it started out with blocking roads for parades.
		That's one thing, but not being on the street corner.
		I mean, what would you do about all these no-protest zones and just this incredible avarice to attack the heart of the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the heart of what makes the red, white, and blue so great?
unidentified		Well, you know, whether we go and look at Gandhi or one of our own Martin Luther King, there is a point at which, when citizens' rights are in jeopardy, that citizens have an innate, not necessarily a recognized right, but an innate right to protest.
		And that protest can include civil disobedience.
		Civil disobedience that understands, hey, look, I may be punished for this, but I want the system to understand that I'm not willing to accede to this without protest.
		And large political movements that have changed the course of the world, and particularly our country, have been started with the seed of civil disobedience.
		I'm not suggesting that everybody should go out and violate every law they don't agree with.
		But at some point, in some place, in some times, it is necessary to teach those entrusted and who are sworn to preserve and protect us that they have an obligation to follow the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, just like the citizens do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, well, Mr. Goldstein, I also want to ask you, why do you think an Austin cop, overnight, now will come up and say, you can't protest, you can't demonstrate, they know they've lost suits, they know they're in trouble for it, but they're being ordered to do this?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How did our government, I mean, just right here in Austin, I know you live in Central.
unidentified		You can't get away with it, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But why would he want to hurt America?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Why would you want to do that?
unidentified		Because it's convenient, because it makes their job simpler.
unidentified		People don't like the appropriate, people don't like the disruption, people don't like to be confronted with things they don't want to see.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's another thing, a couple always walk up and say, we got a complaint, you're out here on the sidewalk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, so what?
unidentified		And by the way, usually the complaint relates to what you're saying, not how you're doing it.
		Exactly. And the point of the First Amendment is the Bill of Rights were designed to protect the minority from the majority.
		You don't have to have the money.
		If all this permitted is a popular view, we don't need the Constitution.
		The Constitution was designed to protect the unpopular from the popular.
		movements start.
		That's how we change attitudes.
		Very often, if all we needed was the popular, the mainstream, the majority's point of view, we wouldn't need a Bill of Rights.
		The framers of our council.
		No. Bottom line, bottom line, this is unconstitutional, taking blood without a warrant.
		taking blood without a warrant is unconstitutional but they're doing it why it's insane well you know this because they can't so stand up to him Alex I got to run but I want to tell you that thank you for giving the opportunity to produce but sure any website so you want to fire up people learn more No, just be vigilant.
		Use the web.
		Use the internet.
		It's a remarkable tool that, unlike many of our cities and towns, doesn't have a sensor.
		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, thank you so much for joining us.
		There goes Mr. Goldstein.
		Gerald, thank you.
unidentified		My pleasure, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, where the Marines are training to confiscate your guns.
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		Another untold story that you've not been told from anotheruntoldstory.com.
		This story comes from the greatest storybook, so we know it's true, though it seems so untrue, so incredible it seems science fictional.
		It even goes beyond a seemingly science-fictional story to that category of a horror story.
		But as horrible as it was, it was done, done out of desperation by a Moabite king who was fighting a desperate battle against three opposing kings.
		It, of course, was long, long ago that he did it, and it did work.
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		so anti-freedom.
		You heard him admit all over the country without even having warrants.
		Now in San Antonio, it's a fake rubber stamp warrant.
		Which is almost worse in a way.
		How they've warped the government, the police, to follow this and go along with this.
		You know what?
		I want to go into a clip.
		I'm going to play the rest of this coming up, uh, not this next hour, but the hour after it.
		I want to play a clip from the road to tyranny because this is a Marine Corps officer and he showed me all the documents.
		He'd been a police officer and he started a computer company and was, I was over at his mansion visiting when this happened because he ran into an army Checkpoint on I-35.
		He'd heard my show, made him so mad, he wanted to talk to me.
		He showed me all the documents, photos.
		I was already aware of the programs by then, but when he did it in 88, 89, it was secret.
		And I want to play a few minutes of this, and then we'll come back with another guest coming on.
		But when you hear the Marines, quote, want to train for urban warfare, this is to acclimate the public.
		Just like when you sit in your backyard every day, drinking iced tea, You notice that the owls will start coming out and looking at you.
		You notice the squirrels will come up near you.
		That's what the marines in your cities are about.
		Acclimating everybody.
		And I have all the documents.
		I've interviewed emergency managers.
		It's not my opinion.
		We have discovered that the military industrial complex that just made 7 trillion off this fake war and stealing wants it all, folks.
		And they brainwashed the cops.
		And they're coming for us.
		And they're going to put carbon taxes on all of us.
		I mean, this is going to be a reign of terror.
		It doesn't have to happen.
		Sucking our blood warrantlessly on the side of the road isn't freedom.
		It's hyper-tyranny.
		Here it is.
		Our team was in Swansboro, North Carolina back in 2000.
		In February of 2002, two special forces trainees were killed by a sheriff's deputy.
		You ask why?
		They were trying to disarm him.
		They were trying to take over local law enforcement.
		This is the new type of training that our military are being given to overthrow the civilian government, the elected government, right here in the United States.
		And shockingly enough, there were actually two cases of this in the same week in North Carolina where they were being trained to overthrow the civilian government.
unidentified		Cover to your right also.
		This looks like a gaggle, Mr.
		Wright. Get these lines straight out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Straighten it out just to your right.
unidentified		Get your group ready.
unidentified		Sir, group prepared, ready, go, sir.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Every day in America, militarized SWAT teams kill innocent people, and they're rarely held accountable.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		More often, they kill their own officers, and still they're not held accountable.
unidentified		What's happening in America?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How do they become so militarized?
		We interviewed a former Marine Corps officer who in 1989, while he was in the Marine Corps, was serving search warrants on American citizens'homes and businesses.
		To start at the beginning for us, a little bit about your past, how you first got involved in the military, And some of the things you did, and then later in life, some of the questions that you started raising yourself after you've been a police officer.
unidentified		Okay. I started out, I joined the Marines.
		Tested real high on the ASVAB, which is the Armed Forces Vocational Amplitude Battery.
		Did real well in that and was an MP5800 Military Police.
		From that I was sent over to various duty stations.
		It started interest in civilian law enforcement, so I was able to take part in joint...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna come back and play five more minutes of this thing at William Pepperdine.
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		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
		I still had an interest in civilian law enforcement, so I was able to take part in joint military police and civilian police exercises.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've seen the Urban Warfare training all across the country, the black helicopters, the special forces in cities, and it seems like it's been ratcheted up in the last five years from just basic training to actual live fire in city streets.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What type of relationship did you have with law enforcement when you were in the Marine Corps?
unidentified		Very cohesive.
		There's a lot of interaction.
		1988 and 1989, like I told you prior, I helped assist in three search warrants.
		A lot of entry team operations giving civilian law enforcement advice and critiquing how they're doing that to rape such as crack houses or supposed terrorist organizations as far as multiple entry points of a home, whether it be through the roof, the windows, in front door, Or a combination of all at the same time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you were actively, as a member of the United States Marine Corps active duty, out with civilian law enforcement serving search warrants to homes?
unidentified		That's correct.
		There weren't missions, they were called exercises, but it was actual with real, what we call combatants, real live.
		It was the real deal, helping execute search warrants.
		Late 80s.
		I've actually been on point with an MP5 and I was not in a police uniform.
		I had a police vest on and a police jacket and black BDUs.
		And these were obviously drug dealers?
		One, maybe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What were the other raids concerning?
unidentified		Pawn shop owners.
unidentified		One was a pawn shop owner and the other was for a joint working with ATF.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		As a member of the Marine Corps, David, you're telling us you raided a civilian business with the BATF going after guns?
unidentified		It was the business owner's home.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the business owner's home.
unidentified		The homes were civilian homes in some upper middle class to white collar homes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to play all of it coming up next hour.
		But this is the point here.
		People think that I just get on air and say they're getting ready for martial law and these urban warfare takeover drills are that.
		I've interviewed emergency managers.
		I've interviewed police chiefs where the Delta Force comes in from the army with bags of money trying to buy them off.
		Why do you think they've flown 60 plus billion dollars worth of cash into the troops?
		It's to corrupt them.
		Every time the Army and the Marine Corps raided citizens' homes, that was a violation of posse comitatus, each case is a serious felony.
		Now they've watered it down to say, well, during emergencies we can't.
		But they're already covertly doing it everywhere.
		And the Austin cops, I know we've got military here for at least seven years, you don't think I don't know?
		You don't think I don't know what you're up to and what you're doing?
		I mean, this is all over the country, but right where I live, this treason's going on.
		Out at the Bergstrom Airport.
		It's a hive of villainy.
		And let me tell you, you're the target, folks.
		You are the target.
		And those murdering criminals from the BATF, murdered old people at Waco, everything else they've done, I mean, they are a bunch of lawless crooks.
		You understand?
		They are criminals!
		With the military engaging American people.
		You know, I have all this footage of them pulling buses over the army and searching the buses.
		And then these people are in there posting on YouTube going, yeah, I've done that.
		I'm the military.
		Yeah, we're running ops.
		It's good for the country.
		It's post 9-11.
		No, it was before 9-11.
		It was before 9-11.
		And then you said before 9-11 and all your documents, there'll soon be a terror attack and then we're gonna take over.
		See, I've got your whole game plan.
		Most of you don't even know what you're playing in.
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		You are their rearguard action.
		They're not even going to be here.
		They're just, they're folding the country up.
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unidentified		Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, William Pepper has seen quite a bit.
		He's a top American human rights lawyer.
		He's also a barrister in England.
		He's friends with Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, advisors to him.
		I've tried to go over everything he's done.
		It's quite a life.
		His book, Act of State, the murder of Martin Luther King, was out in hardback.
		It just came out in paperback.
		It's excellent.
		I've read it.
		Open and shut that they killed him and had a patsy as they always do.
		We have a government documents like Operation Northwoods describes how to frame patsies.
		It's very disgusting.
		How they do it, how they kill who they want, how they do what they want.
		Always wrapping themselves in the flag when they're the ones destroying our name, our currency, our future.
		That's disgusting.
		But I want to get him to talk about the murder, you know, condensed version, in the 50 minutes we've got with him, of Martin Luther King, which he's the expert on.
		He didn't even believe it for a while.
		He had to learn the evidence to go through it, but he's the preeminent expert on that.
		Interviewed many times, Jerry and Gerald Ray and others.
		But then, now it's coming out open and shut, BBC, NBC, everybody admitting.
		Three CIA section bosses there at the Ambassador Hotel.
		Well, I think they probably will still.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		They also, Alex, also use that kind of condemnation as we go forward in the Bob Kennedy case.
		I have agreed to become lead counsel for Sirhan, having gone through that file very carefully over the course of the last year.
		And after his former lawyer died, Larry Teeter died.
		I came on, I discussed the case with Larry many times and of course encouraged him, but as you rightly say, I think it's now pretty much opened up and that doesn't mean there's going to be any less obstruction.
		In fact, I'm finding more and more obstruction in the state of California from the Department of Corrections to some basic work that we have to do with Sirhan.
		And so they're going to make it as tough as they can, but I think from my reading of the evidence at this point, this is actually an easier case than Martin's assassination.
		At this point in time, I think it's an easier case to open up, just in terms of the factual and the forensic evidence.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Using the conspiracy theory label, I've seen now the White House is calling it Exaggerations, conspiracy theories with Scott McClellan.
		We don't need Scott McClellan to tell us that they lied about WMDs and engaged in deception propaganda knowingly and willfully because we have all the documents, we have the executive orders, we have the White House memo, the Downing Street memo, we have the CIA assessments where Bush blacked it out.
		So we know they lied.
		We don't need Scott McClellan to tell us this, but the fact that they would say he's lying now, it's just incredible.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		Well, I'm afraid you've got a gang of criminals there, and the crimes they've committed are the worst imaginable.
		When you look at international law, international human rights law, we see a whole range of crimes against humanity.
		War crimes, crimes of war, and of course the number one Nuremberg crime, that of waging a war of aggression.
		So these people have got to be held accountable at some point in time, and I've asked some of my colleagues at Oxford and some over here to begin to put together a bill of indictment related to everything that's going on with respect to Uh, to the, to extraordinary rendition, and torture, and aggression, and...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, look at Vincent Mugliosi.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's coming out with a book saying Bush is a murderer, and he can convict him right now.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think, I think that, uh, there's a groundswell of that kind of opinion, and, uh, I think as soon as these people are out of office, uh, there should be an attempt to have them prosecuted, which will not get very far, uh, in this country, But frankly, there are a number of treaty signatories in other states that I think are just waiting for the opportunity to commence prosecutions.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we look forward to that, or we'll never get our good name back.
		I think that's what's most important.
		It's kind of like Germany had the Nuremberg trials, and to some extent, you know, then they could move on.
		I mean, we are now anathema.
		We are now seen globally as the Nazis, and unfortunately, rightfully so.
		We've killed over a million Iraqis.
		And people say, well, not in my name.
		Well, they did it in our name.
		And so we've got to do something about this.
		Your take on that, sir?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, my take on it is exactly that.
		I lamented that there was never accountability for what happened in Vietnam.
		You know, I was a journalist over there in 1966, and my observations led ultimately to my being able to convince Martin King uh...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		to oppose the war which he did in april four sixty seven of course they killed him a year later so that's what i hate about this interview is the time we've got to have you back again because i want all your opinions your take you've seen so much it's amazing and i don't like to talk about yourself but she let's get in the marketing was going to bobby but spend a few minutes first about how instrumental you've been the things you've seen what martin luther king was like behind the scenes what bobby kennedy was like what you know uh...
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		all these other penny you've really just been part of history Well, yeah, there's a sadness there, because the history that I've been a part of has been on the decline in terms of democracy in this republic.
		Martin was, like many of us, a believer in the system and a believer in the hope of American democracy, and he gradually became alienated and frustrated with it, particularly as it affected uh...
		the slaughter of the innocence uh...
		and and as a result of american foreign policy uh...
		when he saw the photographs that i put in front of him on but i came back from vietnam i i i published nothing and and developed nothing when i was over there i have held it all till i came back and went he read the ramparts piece that came out january sixty seven and i opened the files for me he actually wept uh...
		the devastation the burning the mutilation Of just scores and scores of children and women in village after village has never been acknowledged, and there's never been accountability.
		And I felt desperately about that, particularly when the My Lai, which was just one of hundreds of villages, when the My Lai massacre came out.
		I thought that might trigger some serious prosecutions of the aggressors in this country who had led that kind of devastation, but it didn't.
		It all passed away.
		I'm determined to do what I can do anyway to see that this does not happen with respect to what we have done to this ancient civilization in Iraq and that beautiful people.
		You know, we've just destroyed it and destroyed them, and as you rightly say, killed over a million and displaced another couple of million and just devastated a country and a people.
		And for what?
		On the basis of lies?
		And the hunger and the desire for oil.
		I mean, that clearly seems like what's been behind it.
		But Martin was gradually coming in the late 60s to the awareness that he had to confront power with the massive power of people.
		And that was what got him killed, because this was non-negotiable for him.
		He was bringing about a half a million people to Washington the spring of 68 to live in Resurrection City and to go visit congresspeople.
		And the army believed, I think quite rightly, that there was probably going to be a revolution because they weren't going to get put back into the budget, the social programs that had been taken out.
		Instead, that massive humanity, impoverished humanity, was going to become increasingly angry.
		And there we would have had probably a revolution in the nation's capital that they didn't have enough troops to put down.
		Westmoreland wanted 200,000 more.
		They didn't have those for him.
		They didn't have the troops to put down.
		So the Army knew the only way to stop this from happening was to kill King.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sir, I would tell you today, we have the government documents.
		I've interviewed the Marine Corps officers.
		They have been training for decades, a long strategic plan starting back under Reagan, but carried by Clinton and others forward.
		For martial law, these urban warfare drills they do, Marines running real checkpoints, is to acclimate us.
		Bush in the John Warren Defense Authorization Act says it's for martial law.
		And then in his PDD-51, which, as you know, the Homeland Security isn't even allowed to see in Congress, but the cover sheet says he is the government, and they can pass that.
		I mean, I see them owning both parties, obviously the neocons being a particularly virulent expression of this, but I see the military-industrial complex knowing they're doing things through globalization that are going to hurt Americans, and I see them heading off not just a pass by killing Martin Luther King or Bobby Kennedy peaceful revolution, I see them now in their own revolution against us.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think the country is probably closer to to martial law than it has ever been in in my lifetime and they have all of the as you rightly say they have they have all the mechanisms in place and It's only a question of something to that that could trigger it and and there is only one party.
		That's also Evident you're not going to have any serious.
		I'm not going to have any serious opposition.
		So I think I think that's right.
		We live in very perilous times, and I think as the economy gets worse and worse, and from all the economists whom I speak, there's no question in the minds of many that we're going right back to 1929, 1930.
		As that happens, there doesn't seem to be a way to reverse this downward plunge, because it permeates every aspect of economic life in this country.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Corruption! It's just corporate looting and raiding, and they're all leaving the country.
		Dr. Pepper is just amazing.
		Dr. William Pepper.
		We're going to come back and get into Martin Luther King's murder, and then get into Bobby's murder.
		So important.
		Tell everybody you know to tune in right now.
		His new book is out in paperback, Active State, dealing with the murder of Dr. King.
		We'll be right back.
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		Don't want no shackles.
		Don't want no shackles on me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's Jimmy Vaughn!
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's right, my friend.
unidentified		Mr. Pepper, Dr.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pepper, has agreed to stay with us about 15 minutes to the next hour.
		So we have plenty of time to talk about everything.
		Well, I mean, I suppose we could summarize Martin King, since his fascination was first in time.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		It's a long story, as you know.
		The case has been an involvement of mine for over 30 years.
		And I met him when I came back from Vietnam.
		He read a piece I wrote in Ramparts and saw the photographs of burned children and mutilated civilians.
		And I asked to meet with me, and I did open the files to him.
		He was very moved and upset and asked me to work with him that last year, and we formed the National Conference for New Politics, which was designed to promote a King Spock third-party ticket in 1968, for the 1968 elections.
		And top of that, he was planning to bring half a million people to Washington to protest the removal of funds from the social program.
		So I only knew him and only worked with him that last year.
		Then they killed him, and I just sort of walked away from politics.
		Bob Kennedy had a suite in Atlanta the night we buried Martin.
		He asked me and some others, Spock and Julian Bond, to come up shortly.
		To talk with him about his presidential campaign, and he'd asked me to work on it.
		I had been Bob Kennedy's Citizen Chairman in Westchester County as a very young guy in 1964 when he ran for the Senate.
		I just decided I wasn't going to do that, and after they killed Martin, I just walked away from politics.
		Nine years later, Abernathy called me and asked me to go to the prison and interrogate James Earl Ray in his presence, and I thought he'd gone around the bend.
		I never knew anything about the case, whom they had gotten the right guy, and like many Americans, just blithely accepted the government's explanation, as we are raised and trained to do, you know, and so I went up and After about six months, it took me to try to prepare for that, and I read everything I could on the case.
		Then I spent five hours putting James under enormous stress, and we came away from that five-hour interview convinced—this was in August of 1978—convinced that he was not guilty of the murder.
		We didn't know what other role he might have played.
		I began, he raised so many questions that I just began to quietly go into Memphis and live an alternative life off and on in the streets to try to get as much shoe leather information as I could.
		James agreed to several more...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So you did a bunch of detective work for a long time, drifting around?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, no, it was really...
		At one point, I had 22 investigators working for me on very specific pieces of the case.
		They didn't even know each other or what they were doing as a team, but I plowed a lot of resources.
		I put about a million dollars of my own money that I earned practicing over 25 years.
		I guess I put about a million dollars in to try to get Uh, to get to the bottom of it.
		James kept asking me to represent him and I kept refusing until I said, until I'm sure you had no knowing involvement, I won't do that.
		I won't, won't represent you.
		Finally, in, in, uh, 1988, uh, I got, I got to the point that was now over 10 years later, uh, that I became convinced of his total innocence and knowing that he was an unknowing patsy used by the government.
		So, I agreed to represent him.
		I took his case up to the Supreme Court where we were denied certiorari.
		Ben, it just continued.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		By the way, let's be clear.
		You didn't just believe, Ray, over decades.
		You spent over a million dollars researching it to track it all back.
		Stay there.
		Dr. William Pepper, amazing individual.
		He has lived history.
		He is living it now.
		We really appreciate him spending time with us today.
		Long segment, Doctor, when we come back.
		Plenty of time to break out and tell the story of the murder of Dr.
		Martin Luther King.
		And again, folks, love Dr.
		King, hate him.
		The point is, this was a black op.
		This is the Shadow Government.
		They're running things today.
		And they're a danger to all of us.
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		This confederation of evangelicals, Catholics, and Protestant denominations will form one huge political voting bloc.
		Their agenda is enforcement of religious worship and morality by legislation.
		Our forefathers wrote the Bill of Rights to guarantee all Americans this freedom, liberty of conscience.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The men that killed Martin Luther King, JFK, Bobby...
		They told the army commandos and the hired hitmen that were doing it, the FBI officers that were carrying it out, the agents, that it was all for the good of the country.
		But now look what they've done to the country.
		The very same sons and daughters, the same crew, is anti-free market, anti-liberty.
		And we're at the crossroads, ladies and gentlemen.
		We're either going to get out of this tyranny or go deeply into it.
		We can't stand still.
		There is no sitting on the sideline.
		There is no sitting on the bench.
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		Here, we've got some special guests joining us.
		Dr. William Pepper is our guest.
		This book came out in the hardback.
		Now it's out in paperback.
		And we'll tell you more about that, dealing with the murder of MLK, before he leaves us.
		Now, but right now we're getting into MLK.
		Then we'll get into Bobby's murder.
		And then he's also, by the way, friends with Hugo Chavez, and has a book coming out about his conversations with him, so we'll get his take on who Hugo Chavez really is.
		There's a lot of questions about that, and we'll get his perspective before he leaves us for a few minutes, then when the book comes out soon, hopefully he'll come back for an hour then.
		Okay, sir, go ahead and continue with kind of a synopsis of what you cover in ActiveState.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, as James' lawyer, we were frustrated in going through the court system, and he seemed blocked.
		Some media colleagues from England suggested to me that why don't we do a television trial, a mock trial, unscripted, but highly credible.
		In order to put forward the evidence that we had of James' innocence and also, of course, allowing a prosecutor to convict him.
		So there was a television trial done in 1993.
		It was aired, it was produced by Thames Television of England, who eventually put out a business by Thatcher, and HBO in the United States.
		And it ran in England and in the United States for four hours on the 25th anniversary of Martin's assassination on April 4, 1993.
		It took the jury seven and a half hours to find James Earl Ray not guilty.
		It was a jury chosen, not random, but with regular objections from all over the country.
		The judge was a former federal judge, and the prosecutor was Hickman Ewing, who had been U.S.
		attorney in Memphis, and who was quick to remind me that he had won 200 straight criminal convictions as we prepared to go to trial.
		I thought Hickman was going to have a heart attack when the jury came back, and he saw, for the first time on film, he saw the jury verdict of not guilty.
		That was kept from everyone at the time.
		So that opened the floodgates.
		People started coming forward with information.
		And the picture started to become increasingly clear.
		There was a Memphis commercial appeal article by a fellow called Steve Tompkins, former naval intelligence officer who had done an investigative piece on the involvement of military intelligence in surveilling Uh, black Americans going back to Martin King's father, mother, and in the early 20th century.
		And in that long piece, there was a tiny little paragraph which said there was an eight-man sniper unit in Memphis on the day of King's assassination, and it was an Alpha 184 unit.
		And no one ever explained what they were doing there, because sniper units are not used to suppress riots.
		Uh, rebellions, they are rather there to kill, that's their function.
		But there was just that one tiny reference that Steve put in that piece, and so I went to him and badgered him, and he didn't want anything to do with going back and talking to those guys.
		Two of them had fled the country, they were afraid they were going to be cleaned up, so they went to Mexico.
		Finally, I convinced him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Remember, we've got an audience who may not know these terms.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That means there's a practice to generally kill assassins later, and especially if there's an investigation.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's right.
		Two of these guys had fled.
		For a year and a half, Steve carried messages and questions to them.
		He went to Mexico, meant that they had trusted him.
		They would not meet with me because I was James O'Reilly's lawyer.
		But they would meet with him and they knew, they agreed to answer the questions.
		And so slowly they put together a picture of what they knew.
		They were a backup unit.
		They didn't know that at the time.
		They were a backup unit.
		And they came from Camp Shelby and Mississippi.
		And what happened was they were briefed at 4.30 in the morning.
		They were shown two photographs, one of King and one of Young, Andrew Young, and who was the second target.
		People don't know.
		In fact, Andy was shocked when I When I revealed that to him.
		And they then drove into Memphis and they took up their appointed positions.
		There were two sniper units with two spotters, two snipers prepared, but ordered not to fire until they were given the order.
		And what they didn't know was that there was a civilian hit operation that had been developed and there was a sniper on the ground in the bushes behind A place called Jim's Grill, which backed onto the Lorraine Motel.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And by the way, for those that don't know, studying many other cases, you learn they always have overlapping, not just for redundancy and backup and fail-safe, but also so if there's an investigation, it gets confusing and the average simple mind goes, why would they have a whole bunch of different hit teams?
		And you're like, JFK, then it turns into, was it Mafia?
		Was it Pentagon?
		Was it FBI?
		Was it Dallas Police?
		Was it Cuba?
		Well, that's how intelligence works.
		They use everybody.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and so Martin was shot.
		James was manipulated into, he was profiled and allowed to escape from prison almost a year before the assassination, kept under control, handled by a guy called Raul who gave him money.
		James wanted desperately to leave North America and get out of the country.
		And he was approached by this guy at one point in a bar in Montreal and convinced that he would get travel papers, but he had to hang on, do some jobs for this guy.
		The guy would give him money.
		A fellow called Raoul would give him money.
		And so he ran James around the country, kept him under control, kept him in Los Angeles for a long time.
		Martin was to have been hit in Los Angeles.
		That was the original plan.
		They're much more comfortable in some cities than in others because of the degree of intelligence involvement with the local police.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And from what I know, New York and L.A., but L.A. really first SWAT teams developed.
		Daryl Gates has been a CIA police force.
		Really, I've been told by sources they were the first.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that may be right.
		They're certainly very well embedded there.
		But the snipers indicated that at the last minute the place was changed and Memphis was chosen and of course then James was moved into the South, into New Orleans and Birmingham where he was told to buy a gun and then they brought him into Memphis and he was told to rent a room, which he did.
		And then he was told to get lost because they used the room as a staging ground and James was kept out of it for the duration of the afternoon as they prepared.
		So anyway, Martin was shot at 6-01 as he stood on the balcony getting ready to go have dinner with a local preacher.
		And that's a whole other story who that local preacher is, because he's lied over the years about many things.
		But anyway, they took him down.
		There were a group of local Black Panther activists who were working with him to develop the march.
		They were told to get out at about 20 to 6, about 20 minutes before the killing.
		They were told to remove themselves.
		They couldn't understand why, because they had been working cooperatively, and they were just told, well, if the LC was going to pay your bill anymore, you have to leave.
		So they just got discussed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hey, let's be clear.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're saying that there were operatives inside King's Entourage?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, definitely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can you spend a little time on that?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was a very interesting situation, because when I interviewed each of the invaders, and the black group, and they had two rooms there.
		And I interviewed them, of course, many years later.
		And they said they couldn't understand why they were being told to leave.
		And when one of them asked the matron of the hotel who came up to tell them to depart, who was it who gave the order to leave?
		They said, well, it was Reverend Jackson.
		And I said, Jackson?
		They had nothing to do with Jesse Jackson.
		They had been working with Hosea Williamson and others, but not Jackson.
		They couldn't understand why all of a sudden he had inserted himself into the situation requiring that they leave.
		Uh, and, uh, he, what Harrington told me is he looked over her shoulder, he saw Jesse down in the, uh, in the parking lot looking at his watch.
		Uh, and, uh, anyway, they just, they just left.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Boy, Jesse Jackson is a real piece of work, isn't he?
		And then they gave him all the media attention and made him the man and he plays the race politics with him and divides.
		He is really something else, isn't he?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he went up.
		I mean, Ms. King didn't speak to him for about 20 years, I believe.
		Because he went up and he put blood, Martin's blood, on a shirt that he then was able to use on the Today Show in Chicago the next morning as they spirited him out of there.
		And, you know, when I confronted Jesse with that, he just didn't remember anything about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you think they told him to do that, or do you think he just thought of that little bit of theater himself?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		You mean the blood?
		Yeah. I just don't know.
		I just don't know which way that fell.
		But it left very bad feelings with a lot of people that he developed and pushed himself to.
		That way, but the incident that's much more sinister is the removal of the invaders, because they were a loose cannon type of group.
		They were unpredictable, and they had to be taken out of there, as did one of the black surveillance detectives who was surveilling King, who was primarily a community relations guy, and they had him in.
		had the room they removed him from the fire station uh...
		where they went where they had the balcony under surveillance and they removed to be only two black firemen from the fire station work were told not to report to work that uh...
		they set the stage Yeah, that's key evidence.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You just mentioned that blacks in the government apparatus, you know, anybody who'd be responding in emergency services, they were removed.
		That is a key piece of evidence.
		Please continue.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they took them all out.
		They took them all away.
		They removed the police guard from the hotel and stationed it up at the police station, at the fire station rather.
		They just had it out of the area.
		There was always a team of four black detectives who were protecting Martin Cain when he came to Memphis.
		That team was always in force.
		They were not called into duty that day.
		So he was left without those four black detectives as well.
		So when you have a cumulative amount of these kinds of events, there are no coincidences.
		This is...
		So there was a sharpshooter who lay in the bushes, and along the side of him was a fellow called Lloyd Jowers, who was there to take the rifle from him as soon as he fired the shot, which Jowers did.
		Jowers ran Jim's Grill, which was the place in the bottom floor of the rooming house, but backed onto the bushes.
		But Jowers took the gun, ran inside, He broke it down in front of a woman who had been his mistress and who had also worked in the grill called Betty Spates.
		And it took Betty, my goodness, she finally told me the story in December of 1992.
		She kept it all those years for various reasons, fear possibly, and also because she had been a Jowers lover and didn't want to turn him in.
		So, she told the story.
		Others came forward.
		We really boxed Jowers in with his involvement, and he finally broke.
		And that's how we began to get the picture of the local operation, which was planned in his grill.
		And he was given substantial money by a local mob guy called Frank Liberto, who was one of Marcello's guys.
		Marcello had taken a contract on King's Life.
		Uh, not knowing about the military backup, but he had taken a contract and he, um, he was, uh, he used his local guys and their connection with the police to, uh, uh, to carry it out.
		So that was, uh, Martin was, was felled by a single bullet.
		The guy who shot him went down over the wall, was picked up in a Memphis traffic, uh, police car a block away and taken, uh, taken to safety.
		And the FBI's role in that case was to, as it is in many of these situations, was to cover up.
		They weren't involved in the actual organizing of the killing.
		Their job was to control the investigation, which they did.
		They controlled the investigation and managed to cover up.
		That has persisted.
		I have to say, Alex, it's persisted to this day because the official story is still the one That it gets put forward all the time.
		There is a museum, a civil rights museum, that has James Earl Ray's throw-down gun, which is never without the murder weapon.
		It was a throw-down gun with his palm print on it so they could nail him.
		It has it in a big cabinet, so it's the murder weapon.
		And that museum is controlled by some of the people who have benefited from King's death.
		Uh, the official story is still out there.
		An ongoing...
		An ongoing...
		never been reviewed in america and the book before it uh...
		orders to kill but never reviewed america there was a fringe review of active state with uh...
		a book of dexter kings in the post but it's never been reviewed and and uh...
		mainstreamed corporate media whether it's television radio or the print media An ongoing...
		An The book editor Christopher Lehman Haupt was going to do a review of Orders to Kill in November of 1995, and he told one of the editors of the publisher that he was told to pull the review.
		First time in 25 years you've been ordered to pull a review.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the church committee came out and proved that the CIA is in control of the major publishing industries, or can steer a lot of it.
		And I've talked to a lot of big authors who've had, you know, New York Times bestsellers who've been told, because their book is anti-establishment, it's not going to be published by a major publisher, and again, people who think this is a supposed free society need to understand, That there's this larger program going on and that these fables, these narratives, these dogmas continue.
		But the good news is, and I'd like to get your take on this briefly before we go to break, is that regardless of their attempt to cover up, I would say it's failed.
		I mean, they have major polls where 80 plus percent believe the government killed King, 90 plus percent believe they killed JFK, 90 percent believe they killed Bobby.
		What's your take on that, Mr. Pepper, Dr. Pepper?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		I think, yes, I think you're right.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		I think the people closer to it, and at this point in time, we're all, you know, there is this enormous skepticism that's late in coming, but that is there with respect to people being suspicious.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, stay there.
		Gotta break, gotta break.
		I want to come back, talk more about that, get into Bobby.
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		It freaked me out when I found out that the military was training to break up our families, take our children, confiscate our firearms.
		And now they do open, quote, drills that go live and search our vehicles and take us to jail.
		And I'm going to be covering that coming up in the next hour.
		Dr. William Pepper is our guest.
		Active State is his book now out on paperback about the murder of RFK.
		There's also a companion website.
		Luther King.
		Excuse me.
		We're about to talk about Bobby Kennedy in a minute.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yes, well, the new evidence It brought the King family in full flame into the case and they called for a trial for James and supported that effort.
		A judge, Joe Brown, a very independent black judge in Memphis, decided that he was going to hear evidence and started moving in the direction and just as he, in my view, was on the verge of giving a new trial for James, Ordering a new trial for James.
		He was in the shadows.
		He was taken off the case.
		The criminal court of appeals removed him from the case and that effectively ended that possibility.
		James died in 1998 of liver disease.
		I had arranged a liver transplant facility for him at the University of Pittsburgh Hospital and pleaded for the right Uh, at no cost to the state to take him, uh, there for that transplant and save his life and was denied, uh, by, uh, by the courts in, uh, Tennessee, uh, which was, uh, they were effectively giving him a death sentence at that point in time.
		And, uh, so he died in 98. In 1999, um, I counseled the King family to bring a lawsuit against, um, Lloyd Jowers for the purpose of bringing out all of the evidence.
		That we had developed over the previous quarter of a century, just about a quarter of a century.
		So the family sued Jowers.
		He had admitted to Dexter King and myself and then to Dexter and Andy, separate interviews, exactly how the killing went down.
		So we could bring an action against him.
		We got around the statute of limitations because it was new evidence that was never available before.
		And we sued him in civil court in Memphis in 1999.
		I represented the King family against Lloyd Jowers and others, which included government agents, unnamed government agents.
		Took the jury, the trial went for 30 days, Alex.
		4,000 pages of transcripts and exhibits.
		It's an amazing history of the entire We're good to
		go. Stay there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna come right back in 70 seconds, Dr. Pepper.
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		We've still got two hours, folks.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's not his official website, but he says he likes the work that the gentleman is doing.
		It's activestate.org about his newest book, now out in paperback, Active State, The Murder of Martin Luther King.
		I want to get into Bobby here in a minute, a little bit into Hugo Chavez.
		We've got this segment and part of the next.
		We really appreciate Dr. Pepper spending time with us.
		Okay, William, please continue.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		All right, but just very quickly, it took the jury in the civil trial 59 minutes to find the That Martin King was killed as a result of a conspiracy involving agents of the government of the United States, state of Tennessee and city of Memphis.
		70% liability went to those official government agents, and 30% liability went to Lloyd Jarrett.
		So that effectively brought the King case pretty much full circle in terms of I think so.
		The involvement of the government.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What is it like to have trusted your government before and then to be, not even be an excited participant, but to have to look into it and then find out that this is the case?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, how did that change your worldview about how things really work?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course, it made me terribly cynical in terms of electoral politics and of the possibility of changing I'm
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		certainly in the same boat as you.
		Sometimes I wish things weren't conspiracies or weren't corrupt or weren't bad, and I go investigate, and it's almost always worse than I thought, Doc.
		I mean, it's insane.
		Your take on 9-11 and how it's been used to turn us into a furtherance of a police state, 7 trillion looted, 4 trillion missing from the Pentagon, 3 trillion from the war, the pension fund's gone.
		I mean, they're now openly engaging in corruption that dwarfs anything previous.
		I wonder what the next wave's gonna look like.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think we're on the road to the end of democracy in this republic, unless there's some drastic changes.
		And it could be with the economic downfall of this system that the forced reconstruction of the republic will finally come about, because it's going to hit everybody right in their living rooms and their kitchens.
		And the people at some point will have had too much.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I agree with you.
		I don't think the thugs out there and some of the authoritarians who like all this who are low-level...
		Do you understand?
		It's liberty and free market and freedom.
		Again, we're not perfect, but better than other places that has given us all this.
		And this tyranny, this corporatocracy or crony capitalism that isn't real capitalism.
		I mean, it's like a cancer and it's just growing, growing, growing, growing.
		And either they're going to totally take over or we're going to somehow use their collapse.
		I mean, I agree with you.
		I think they're out of...
		I don't think they're in control, Dr. Pepper.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think we're...
		No, they're not in control of this now.
		It's spiraling downward, and it is out of control.
		There's no question.
		They're not...
		They may not...
		well, will not be able to salvage it, and it's questionable whether the type of reforms that happened during the New Deal era will ever be sufficient again to restore the system.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, you and I could probably even argue about what form of, you know, system we like as far as largesse and the public treasury.
		But at the same time, we know that corporate fascism destroys freedom and wealth.
		And so we're no doubt in agreement against that system.
		Let's come back briefly, get into Bobby Kennedy and a little bit about Hugo Chavez, who you're personal friends with.
		It's an amazing interview.
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		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Got Richard Gage, Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth, coming up the next hour.
		Got the fellow running the InfoWarsMoneyBomb.com popping in here in about seven minutes, when Dr. Pepper leaves us.
		And, uh...
		We'll also take some calls and gauges on with us.
		I got a bunch of other news we're gonna be covering Doc getting into Bobby.
		I mean, I know that you mainly focused in on what happened with Martin Luther King, but now looking at the Bobby Kennedy's assassination, we always had the coroner in L.A. saying they shot him from behind and multiple times in the back, back of the head, it wasn't Sir M. We always had witnesses.
		We always were told all these CIA guys were there.
		Now they release all this film footage, BBC, of them in the crowd and the witnesses and the guy working at the big spy plane base, you know, who shoots, who reportedly Well, When did you wake up to this?
		B, why did they want Bobby dead?
		And then a synopsis of how they did it.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, they wanted Bobby dead because he was going to be President of the United States, and he was going to reopen the investigation of his brother's assassination.
		Bobby was one of the original conspiracy buffs.
		He believed That his brother was the victim of a conspiracy, and he had never gotten satisfactory answers.
		And he, at one point, told a major magazine editor who was a friend of his that he needed the White House in order to open this investigation and get to the bottom of it.
		So that was a part of it, but it went beyond that.
		He was going to cut the oil depletion allowance, as was his brother.
		That would take hundreds of millions of dollars over a period of years out of the pockets of the major oil companies.
		He was going to withdraw the troops from Vietnam and end that war once and for all, which he had become convinced was a mistake.
		that he was treading on all of the powerful toes.
		His position was going to the bottom line of the major corporations in America.
		So he had to be taken out, and I believe he probably knew that.
		In terms of the details, Tom Noguchi's, the medical examiner's report, as you correctly said, There were four other shots fired at him, three other shots fired at him, four in total, all from the rear and at close range.
		One went through his shoulder pad, one lodged in the neck, and one went through the chest cavity, in addition to the one that hit him behind the ear.
		So, there was no question, also in terms of the witnesses, about 19 witnesses all saw Sirhan never get closer than 3 to 5 feet from the front of Bob Kennedy, and his shooting arm was pinned to a steam table after he got off two shots, so he was just firing blindly.
		So that's, the answer to your first question is, I mean, that's why they killed him, and you're right.
		Shot from the rear, and you're right, there was a medical report, an autopsy report that indicated that right from the beginning.
		But you know, Alex, Bob Kennedy's assassination was never properly investigated.
		There was never a defense put forward for Serhan.
		His lawyers pled him guilty, and didn't even, in exchange for the plea, get a reduced sentence.
		It was incredible.
		They stipulated guilt, and then they argued over what the sentence should be rather than having agreement on that.
		And Serhan remembers virtually nothing about the critical times related to that assassination.
		It is all indications that he was under hypnotic suggestion, that he was controlled, and that he was put on cue.
		To this day, he has never been brought out of that hypnotism.
		So I think it's pretty clear that the defense just totally didn't do their job early on.
		Grant Cooper, the lead counsel, was subject to a pending indictment.
		A federal indictment.
		They had him.
		And he was going to do what he was required to do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen the new BBC?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sorry? Have you seen the new BBC documentary?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I saw Shane O'Sullivan's work, and I've talked to Shane at length about it.
		He's not satisfied me with it, and he's not now satisfied himself with respect to two of the CIA people he thought was there, but one he is quite convinced about, and that was this fellow Frank Morales.
		who has at various times indicated he was in Dallas, and he was also in...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I mean, we now have E. Howard Hunt's Death Peck Infession.
		By the way, I have video footage.
		You haven't been seen yet.
		It's going to be in a film, not just the audio.
		In fact, I keep forgetting.
		We've got to get that on YouTube.
		We've been authorized.
		It's dangerous to have that.
		Let's go ahead and get that out now.
		I don't have the staff.
		It's so crazy up here.
		I'm like sitting here on top of a giant stick of dynamite.
		What do you think about E. Howard Hunt coming out and saying, yeah, I was there, yeah, I ran the operation?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I'm not familiar with all the details of Hunt's statement, but he clearly was a guy very much involved in the mix of all of these things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me just let the Feds know so they don't have to break in here or anything or do anything.
		You'll see it.
		We're so busy, but I'm gonna go ahead and just have it put out.
		I keep meaning to.
		He just says the exact same thing he said in the audio tape that's online and that you see in the Rolling Stone magazine, just that, I was a benchwarmer, Kord Meier didn't like Kennedy, and so he...
		No, I haven't.
		of it, too, right before his dad died.
		It's absolutely amazing.
		And to tell you how busy I am and how crazy all my evidence is, that's like at the bottom of the stack in there.
		No, haven't.
		Uh, everybody at Dallas sang, and we have the Dallas Times-Herald, Dallas Morning News taking photos of him as the tramp.
		We know he ran black-op murders, assassinations, overthrows all over the world.
		And so, we always knew it was him doing it, and that came out, and then he just admits it.
		I mean, it's incredible.
		But he admits it, his son said, because he's proud of it.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, he'd joke around the table about, I can't wait till we get that little bastard Bobby, finish the job, get the little one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then after he got killed, he was making jokes around the dinner table, but he wasn't part of killing Bobby.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't seem as though it was, but you know, I've just begun on Bobby.
		I've agreed to represent Sirhan.
		His lawyer died, whom I knew and consulted with him over the years, and when that happened, and they brought the file to me, And that the new ballistic forensic evidence that Bob Jolling and Phil Von Prague have come out with, that clinched it for me.
		I don't know how familiar you are with that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, one of them is the head of the Forensic Society.
		We had them both on.
		And yeah, no, I mean, clearly two different guns.
		And when you got 20-something shots, which is more than double what his gun can shoot.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. No, there's no question that from the ballistics, from the forensic side, that Uh, that Sirhan has been cleared of the murder of Bob Kennedy.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Problem is, they have five other charges of attempted murder against him, which should never have been allowed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But to be clear, you're now going to represent him and try to get a new trial?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
		We're going, we're going to be pressing for that.
		I must say, we're running into obstruction already.
		It's a mixed blessing when I get involved in a case like this because they then start to batten down the hatches and they make things ever more difficult.
unidentified		Dr. Pepper, we're out of time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to break in about two minutes, and I've already held you over longer than you said, but just come back in a few months when your new book about Chavez is back, please.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But in the minutes we've got left, so Hugo Chavez is for real, according to you?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		There's no question about it.
		He's a guy who's totally, totally committed to alleviating poverty in his country and dealing with 80% of the people who are impoverished.
		They've got 20,000 medical clinics in villages that have never before seen a doctor.
		They're pouring enormous sums of money into social programs.
		Their education is free from cradle all the way to the grave through graduate school.
		He's democratizing the country at the grassroots.
		Each of the local villages have their own councils.
		They have their own budgets.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's no doubt he's doing what communists have never done.
		He's a socialist.
		He's taking a big government land, breaking it up, giving it with the deeds to the people.
		I mean, I wouldn't even call that socialism.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		It's not socialism.
		He's made a mistake with that, I have to say, and I've told him this.
		What he's doing is not socialism, because the state is not involved in running these operations.
		It is more aptly called cooperativism, because the dominant entity in the country they are now is a cooperative entity.
		For example, a sugar factory is run by the workers and the investors and the management.
		They participate on the board, they run the operation together.
		The state does not run it.
		He's, I'm afraid, made a mistake by calling it socialism.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When is your book coming out?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, we're still finishing up.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		It'll probably, Alex, it'll probably be about nine months to a year before.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We can't wait that long.
		Can I have you back in the next month, and then we'll have you back when the book comes out, to talk about Hugo Chavez.
		I know you know him personally.
		He's attended one of your classes at Oxford, and he's a big fan of you.
		And so, I mean, you really know him well.
		Can I have you on so we can really, you know, get William Pepper's take on Hugo Chavez?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
		Probably prevented his death on two occasions.
		I must tell you that.
		And two assassination attempts by the American...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
		Well, how soon?
		We don't want to wait.
		They can do it any time.
unidentified		Can I...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can I get my producer to call you back and, like, maybe set you up the next month?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we could try to set that up, sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm gonna have, in fact, no time like the present, doctor.
		We're gonna let you go now.
		I'm gonna have Trey call you right now.
		Let's look at your book and get you set up to come on about Hugo Chavez, okay?
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Okay. Delighted.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
		The book, ladies and gentlemen, is Active the State, Active State, and ActiveState.org is a website.
		You can check out and find out more.
		Thank you, Dr. William Pepper, for coming on with us.
william f pepper ▲ ● ▼		Okay. My pleasure, Alan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
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		Look, William Pepper, I believe, means well.
		Very intelligent, done incredible research.
		He is a very interesting person.
		I have a bad feeling about Hugo Chavez, I'll tell you that.
		I don't like some of the police state actions he's had in his own country.
		Quoting the name of the greater good.
		I don't believe in socialism, but he has done some things that aren't socialism.
		Because the communists and socialists always end up with a tiny elite owning and running everything.
		He's actually gone out and taken government land and other stuff and broken it up and given it to people.
		And he really is helping the commoners and he is taking the oil profits and giving it to the people because it is a resource.
		I'm not for socialism.
		I'm for free market.
		But if you've got something that's the land and the quote state was claiming and owned it, that should be divested and handed to the people.
		Not like here, where they give you a little bit of government funding and then tell you how to raise your kids, or make you take shots, or do all this.
		And I'm not for socialized health care, because A, it won't work and you can't pay for it unless you got trillions in oil.
		B, it gives the government control to carry out their eugenics.
		I know, though, Chavez has not been taking IMF World Bank money.
		He's said, don't take the foreign shots.
		He's talked about everything we talk about.
		And he is an enigma, so we're gonna have William Pepper back on, because he's very close to Chavez.
		So that's the problem with a guy like that.
		You could talk about 50 subjects with William Pepper.
		He's really old, very smart, he's been around forever.
		And so, we try to explore things here.
		And we're gonna get to the bottom of Hugo Chavez.
		He's gonna come back on in the next two weeks, and that should be an interesting interview, because he's writing a book, the authorized biography with Chavez.
		Holy mackerel, that is going to be very interesting to kind of give you a behind-the-scenes nine months to a year before that comes out, because Chavez is rocking the world.
		Chavez is sending shockwaves across the planet.
		I think I know what's going on.
		You know what?
		I'm going to tell you what I think is going on with Chavez, and I could be wrong.
		I'm dead on about most things because that's because I've had experience, history, time to analyze and study and go off their own documents.
		See, things in hindsight are very easy.
		But, when you're trying to look at their global manipulations and characters and people, it's very hard to do it in the present.
		In the present, it's very hard.
		Years from now, we'll know.
		It's hard now.
		Okay? Now, with ongoing, like, 30-year projects to bring us into martial law, I can tell you exactly what's going on, exactly what they're doing, because I've had their own documents, their own experiences.
		I've been to their events.
		I've analyzed hundreds of news articles, thousands of news articles.
		I understand their attack profile.
		So I understand their synthesis of fascism and socialism, and I know what they're pushing.
		And you know what?
		Eric Nordstrom is a real trooper.
		He's been holding for 10 minutes.
		I apologized to him.
		He's going to be with me for about an hour on air, taking calls in the four-hour show.
		We're going to do Sunday night, Saturday night, excuse me, I'll be back Sunday night too, from 8 to midnight.
		And it won't be on the Genesis Network, won't be on Emesis Network.
		It will be only on my internet streams at InfoWars.com, but I know tens of thousands will tune in.
		We have a lot of special guests on that night.
		It's not just going to be Moneybomb, Moneybomb, Moneybomb, but about a third of the time we'll be talking about the Moneybomb, and we're talking about the Moneybomb right now.
		We've got about $70,000 that has been pledged.
		Frankly, we need a lot more than that, folks.
		If I'm going to get a bigger office instead of the 2,300 square foot we're in, if I'm going to get better cameras, better computers, start a pilot show for Dish Network, that's how big things start.
		I'll have to pay for that show, folks.
		That's why we need the support.
		I guarantee you, if Ron Paul was a good place to give money, and look at the tens of millions we woke up, even if he doesn't become president, we're not going to go away.
		We're a media institution.
		So if you believe in what we're doing, you should support us.
		Eric, how is the build-up towards the money bomb going?
unidentified		I think it's going pretty good.
		It's trickling in.
		But, you know, we've got some good support, and the people who have pledged, they'll follow through.
		And I think we'll wind up getting more money than it's showing, of course.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You came up with the original idea and instituted it for the Ron Paul money bombs, but then got picked up by others, like Trevor Lyman.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What's your gut on this money bomb right now?
unidentified		Well, of course, I was just one of many who came up with roughly the same idea and put it out, and it was the teamwork that made it good.
		It wasn't one person, it wasn't one event.
		Each person that was involved Um, was crucial.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, this isn't about credit.
		It is about everybody.
		I'm just specifically saying who you are in this.
		You're the first guy to put a website up.
		You're the first guy to actually take the first step.
unidentified		Well, that's exactly what I mean is, you know, if you look at it this way, it takes a lot of people to get this thing happening.
		And it's not just the fever, or it's not just the, uh, the like, you know, who people like, who people prefer that makes it happen.
		If you, if you look at this money bomb, and if you look at your organization there, and you look at it as a house, And you've got other organizations out there also trying to put out the freedom movement information, you know, constitutional information.
		And if you represent these different organizations as different houses in a neighborhood, well, if you've got one house that's looking a little bit trashy, and you've got one house that's medium, and you've got one house that looks really nice, you know, everybody wants their house to equity to go up.
		What you want to do is you want to get everybody in the neighborhood to help each other make their landscaping look nice, help the neighbors out.
		That way, Your entire equity goes up for your house.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stay there.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's really exciting, folks.
		The idea of us giving.
		The idea of the Liberty Movement, the Freedom Movement, supporting the different tip of the spears that are out there.
		And we're not the only spear, but we're the biggest spear.
		We're the most effective spear.
		Next to Ron Paul.
		And it is literally treasure for our war chest.
		What is a war chest?
unidentified		It's what funds the Army.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And, uh, I have never really asked for donations, but when Eric Nordstrom did this, it comes at a time when I was really trying to decide what I wanted to try to do.
		This is, uh, even if $100,000 comes in, that'll be substantive.
		That'll help us.
		That'll help us get a lot done.
		But for the cost of the type of things we're doing, it's really not even that much.
		And I assure you, I'll give you my word, 100% of the donations that come in Saturday will go to the building cost, which we cram every square foot full of people taking action.
		We'll go to the electricity bill.
		We'll go to better cameras.
		We'll go to bandwidth.
		We'll go directly to fighting the New World Order.
		You see, we can't be demoralized.
		We can't have the attitude that we can't win.
		People are waking up.
		The global system is collapsing.
		They're trying to bring in their new world order through the controlled collapse.
		We have to use that against them like judo and use their attack against them.
		And now is the time.
		And I can think of no better place, frankly, to donate to.
		So if you donate to the InfoWorks Money Bomb, you'll be part of that excitement, part of that day, part of that history, and it will go on if it's successful, and that way the Money Bomb idea won't be extincted.
		We're also trying to not extinct the idea of the money bomb.
		Because if Ron Paul has a 6.7 million dollar day, and some 4 million dollar day, and a million dollar day, and then a 800,000 dollar day, and then a 50,000 dollar day, and then it's coming, oh, the Ron Paul thing's over.
		No, it's not the idea.
		People are like, well, what did I get my money for?
		I heard ads all over the country.
		TV, radio, people woke up, they found out about Ron Paul, they found out about the Federal Reserve, the war being a fraud.
		That Bush isn't a real conservative?
		That the Democrats are controlled?
		There's no de...
		I mean, think!
		Tens of millions!
		They estimate there's like 25 million Ron Paul supporters now in the U.S. alone.
		Tens of millions globally.
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		He doesn't make stuff up.
		They... Number one issue was the Liberty Movement, Ron Paul.
		Not that he was going to be president, but that...
		Now, young people don't want to be communist.
		They don't want to be socialist.
		They don't want to be neocons.
		They don't want to be fascist.
		They want to be Liberty people.
		And so, we go on.
		We don't go away.
		We've been here 13 years.
		God willing, we'll be here in 10 years.
		I'd love to beat the New World Order and literally go do something else.
		I got all kinds of films I want to make.
		Imagine if I'm full-time made films instead of making two or three films a year on top of everything else I do.
		I mean, frankly, I want to make...
		I'm not going to tell you what I want to make films about that are non-fiction.
		I don't have time.
		It doesn't matter.
		I mean, that are fiction or documentary style.
		I think of fiction I mean, I don't get sick of it.
		In fact, I'm overdriven, burning with desire to warn you about all the stuff I've got in front of me.
		I'm just babbling here.
		I mean, bottom line, we need your support.
		InfoWars.com.
		A lot of mails coming in, a lot of donations are coming in.
		We're going to tabulate that, add that.
		We need to do some planning with you, Eric.
		I know you're being set up for the show Saturday, the special four-hour show we're going to do.
		We need to be calling you every hour or two.
	You're going to have a graph on your website or my IT guy maybe is going to build a graph and we'll be able to enter the numbers into that and show people like that, you know, to see as the money goes up at least every hour or so.
	They're going to have a 1-800 line and call in here with credit card donations.
	We're going to have a credit card link, a PayPal link.
	The PayPal link's already up.
	I think already like $2,000 is coming outside the money bomb.
	So that's pretty encouraging.
	Go ahead and make your points.
unidentified		Well, just a success for one is a success for all.
		You know, we've got to be thinking of ourselves as the Freedom Movement as one team.
		If we start thinking as each separate tip of the spear, as you put it, as a separate team, And we're all rooting for our own special football team.
		Well, somebody's going to lose.
		And that's the old divide-and-conquer mentality that they want us to fold up into.
		So we've got to think of ourselves as a conglomerate push.
		That we're all doing the same thing.
		We're all singing from the same sheet of music.
		And if one person can get up to the top, well, it makes a road for everybody else to follow.
		It's just like lightning.
		Lightning is going to take the path of least resistance.
		And always after lightning comes the thunder.
		And the thunder is all the people waking up.
		So I highly recommend jumping on this thing because you want to invest in things that have the greatest chance for success.
		You throw money away, some other thing that doesn't have a great chance of succeeding, well, that's fine if you feel strongly about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's a good way of putting it.
		I mean, I'm not saying, I mean, in an Army you're all on the same team.
		It's just that you've individually got spears.
		Exactly. And so what I'm saying is we're on the very tip of the spear.
		And so I always say support everybody, support other networks, support other people.
		I've always tried to be inclusive.
		Others aren't.
		But with the idea of liberty, that is what matters, the idea of moving forward.
		And you're right.
		We need to make this money bomb a success so other people's money bombs can be a success.
		I think we're a good pony to bet on.
unidentified		I put out a press release to the Ron Paul campaign 2008, and what it was was a request by me for them to purchase a 30 second commercial on the Alex Jones show, a 30 second commercial, and pay you 1 million dollars for it.
		Which is a ridiculous price for 1 million dollars for a 30 second commercial, but the ideology behind it is they can't donate to your money bomb per se.
		But if they can spend a million dollars and buy 30 seconds worth of advertising, that gives a million dollars towards something that should and needs to succeed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a good idea, but the enemies would have a heyday with that.
		I didn't know about that idea.
		Well, I bet they think I'm behind that.
unidentified		Well, no, the idea behind it, though, is it's not just 30 seconds.
		If they give a million dollars to something that is good, that will definitely have an impact.
		It's not 30 seconds they're purchasing.
		It's 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, commercial for constitutional liberty.
		Conservative viewpoints and perspectives, not just the Alex Jones viewpoints, but I'm sure you're going to have other guests on.
		And the other thing to think about is, you know, I can't believe the levity, I can't think of the word, the people you have on your show, they're not just Joe Schmoes.
		These people were in the thick of government.
		They were in the thick of things going on.
		They're the movers and the shakers of yesteryear and today.
		You know, these people don't necessarily come on The smaller radio stations, or the smaller television channels, or they're not invited because their perspectives aren't wanted.
		Who else has Willie Nelson talking about 9-1-1?
		You have everybody under the sun on, and it's such an educational value, your show, whether you believe everything that's going on.
		it at least flips some switches and it makes you think, wow, maybe that could be.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're able to get Willie Nelson and Jesse Ventura and all these other people on, mainly because, again, we spend the money to have a full-time producer and another part-time producer.
		Also, I've been around for 13 years, so a lot of bigwigs have gotten to know who I am.
		It's kind of an exponential thing.
		Again, when you've got something that's having breakthroughs, that's what people need to back.
		And, again, ladies and gentlemen, my passion...
		I mean, I know people hear me on their local radio stations at 10 o'clock at night, 3 p.m., you know, 3 a.m., 4 a.m.
		People know I work hard.
		I'm dedicated.
		And this is the place where 100 percent, I don't know where else you can find that too, where 100 percent of what you donate here will go directly into the fight.
		That is what this is all about.
		Infowarsmoneybomb.com.
		When has my producer set you up for the four-hour marathon we're doing Saturday night?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I got the time written down.
		I think it was 7 p.m. my time.
		Or I'm sorry.
		I think it was like 5 a.m. my time.
		So I'll be getting some sleep early to wake up.
		But I'm good for it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay. Well, I think we got our times off.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be live from 8 p.m. to midnight central.
unidentified		Well, we'll figure it out after.
		Yeah. No biggie.
		I'll be there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay. Fantastic.
		And we're going to have some other folks popping in for that show that will just be on the internet streams at InfoWars.com.
		Those specific streams.
		Eric Nordstrom, InfoWarsMoneyBomb.com.
		I really appreciate you coming up with this idea.
		When did you come up with this idea?
unidentified		I guess it was a couple weeks ago and basically another viewpoint of it is it's a battering ram trying to break open the gates of the media so that we can change the face of media.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've always told people go out and support Uh, alternative media.
		Go out and, I mean, if you believe in something, spend money on it.
		Not just me.
		I mean, that's how we're gonna change this, is voting with our dollars.
		They've taken most of our voting machines away.
		I mean, we know we're going into tyranny.
		We better financially support the people that are putting it all on the line.
unidentified		Go ahead.
		Well, this battering ram needs to go through the doors.
		And if you've got, uh, a hundred people sitting on the sidelines not helping to push that battering ram, that's not good.
		So, I really hope and pray that the, uh, people that are standing, standing by watching the battering ram, uh, start to push.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, folks, and you can pledge at InfoWarsMoneyBomb.com, or if you don't want to, just go to InfoWars.com and the big link on the main page to donate by PayPal, credit card, or by calling us.
		We're starting Friday at midnight when we go into Saturday morning.
		I'm going to have one or two people here overnight.
		Who knows how many calls we'll get.
		And then we're going to have a couple people here during the day.
		And I'm going to be here during the day as well, trying to answer the phones.
		Then I'll be here live for four hours at night.
		Eric Nordstrom will be on with this as well.
		Eric, thank you because, hey, regardless of what happens with this, and I think it's going to be a big success, and that's up to you, the listeners, to spread the word right now in these final few days.
		This is key.
		We've got articles that Kurt Nimmo is going to write today, Paul Watson tomorrow, Steve Watson Saturday.
		They're each doing a story.
		It doesn't matter if you write something online.
unidentified		It doesn't matter if you send money.
		It doesn't matter if you donate a piece of burnt toast.
		Do something.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you sir.
		Most of them won't hear about it.
		They'll come check out InfoWars.com.
		I mean, go to a blurb about some news story we've got, some information we've put out, and then have a link to it, you know, to our sub-page about the money bombs.
		They can go there and find out more.
		I mean, whatever it takes to get people to spark their interest, it is the act of defiance, the act of resistance from which all of this flows.
		So many people never believed that we could expose the globalists for 9-11.
		Or that we could expose the WMDs being a lie.
		Or that we could expose the fact that the CIA was putting out fake Al-Qaeda videos.
		Or that we could...
		But now it's all coming out!
		Well, I'd study history.
		And I'd also experience things in my own personal life.
		And I know that if you don't think you can do something, you can be assured it's not going to happen.
		But, nine times out of ten, if you believe in something and you take action, and it's somewhat attainable, you can get it done.
		And, uh, they've got us hoaxed, buffaloed, you know, into not resisting.
		I looked up the term buffaloed, um, and that goes back to how buffalo would just stand there and let you shoot them, basically.
		You know, deer in the headlights is kind of what buffaloed is.
		You know, conned, manipulated, stampeded, murdered.
		Uh, stop being buffaloed.
		I mean, stop deciding you're going to give up.
		Stop deciding you can't affect change.
		Stop deciding.
		I mean, I was kind of buffaloed into never asking for money, or never really trying to raise capital.
		I mean, I used to sit there with advertisers coming in every day.
		This is three, four years ago, wanting to advertise.
		And I would just say, no, I don't want to fill my show up with any advertising.
		I'll just sell my videos, and I'll have two employees, and I'll just do everything myself, and I'll edit everything myself.
		And then I said, wait a minute, if I hire more people, then we can have better customer service.
		That was the main reason I started hiring more people.
		We didn't have the staff to even properly ship them out.
		And then I said, well, if I go ahead and just...
		And I learned, man, I can hire more people, and then that ends up bringing in more money, and then I can hire more people, and then I can continue to expand my operations and fight the new world order more effectively.
		And some other things happened, too.
		I mean, a lot of what happened on this show is...
		I've always been a really nice person, also aggressive at the same time, but a nice guy until you mess with me.
		I remember one time, like eight years ago, I got a sponsor and a talk show called me and said, I'm sponsoring something like that too.
		You shouldn't do that.
		And I said, oh, okay.
		I won't take a sponsor.
		I mean, what kind of schmuck am I?
		But see, to me it was, well, I'll just sell these videos and have enough to live on and then we'll just be a small operation.
		And I realized other people aren't stepping up to the plate.
		I better do it.
		And then I got like four or five sponsors about two years ago and people got mad about it.
		And I said, hey, I'm supposed to live, too.
		How about I get a whole bunch of sponsors?
		How about I really try to hire more people and do more and get better websites and upgrade and have a better PrisonPlanet.tv?
		I mean, that's what this is all about, is effectively waking people up.
		And if we're the best there is, if we're the best hope we've got, that is myself, this radio show, my crew, and you, the listeners, who are symbiotically integrated together in the fight against the New World Order, if we're the best there is, we better...
		I mean, I realize, I mean, you think I want to take on trying to start a TV show and then a TV network?
		You think I want it?
		Because I don't take something on unless I'm gonna do it.
		You think I want to take on a money bomb and have to have people here answering the phone and fiddling with it and people attack me over it?
		At first I was like, oh no, and I heard about it.
		You know, I'm not gonna ask for money.
		I'll just beg for it on air, you know.
		I see the attacks that are coming.
		But so what?
		You just got to step up to the plate because it's morally right to ask for money to fuel something that's morally correct and doing the right thing.
		And I know I'm gonna spend the money on the right thing.
		See, I'm not obsessed with money like other people.
		I'll go just buy those hidden cameras.
		Just buy a laptop.
	Just buy it.
	I don't even care if I burn through the capital I've got because if it's for the weapon, if it's for the info war, it's what I exist for.
	It's what I'm for.
	It's what I'm about.
	I mean, in business, I'm sure you've all experienced this.
	Somebody owes you money.
	Most people try to not pay you.
	Well, we just pay people because we're not obsessed with it.
	We don't try to hold on to something.
	I guess they say those that are willing to lay down their life gain their life, and those that try to keep their life lose their life.
	It's the attitude of being a wimp brings the wolves.
	If you're some cowardly sheep, a nation of cowardly sheep that rationalize and make excuses about everything, tyranny is going to come down on you.
	But if you are a nation of people that are strong-willed and have strong backbones and are aggressive and aren't easy targets, you're not going to live in tyranny.
	And then you're going to have milk and honey because you're going to have free individuals out living their own lives, going their own direction.
	You're going to have free will and free choice, and that is an explosive dynamo, which is just amazing.
	Our countries had limited freedom, but the best there's been in history, and we had half the world's wealth, 4% of the population.
	4% of the population, half the wealth or more.
	Now we're losing all that wealth.
	We've gone in 50 years from being the greatest, most wealthy country in the world, for the last hundred, to being the most indebted, most bankrupt, dumbest, stupidest, most unhealthy, most know-it-all, most arrogant.
	I want that back.
	I want our liberty and freedom back.
	I want my progeny, my great-great-grandchildren, who I love as much as my children.
	I know they're going to exist.
	I have to have that vision and see through it as a male, as a leader, as a trailblazer.
	I have to put myself fully against the enemy.
	Doesn't mean I'm perfect, doesn't mean I drop the ball, doesn't mean I make mistakes, doesn't mean I'm not arrogant and a dumb bastard sometimes.
	But at the end of the day, I'm for real.
	And at the end of the day, I got a mission.
	And at the end of the day, my word is my word.
	At the end of the day, I'm the real McCoy, ladies and gentlemen.
	And I know you're the real McCoy, so stop whining about whether this guy's a good leader or that guy's a good leader.
	You know you're a leader, so start leading today.
	And I want a commitment from you.
	You don't have to give us money.
	You don't have to go give at InfoWars this Saturday.
	In fact, don't.
	But you start a newsletter next week.
	You start a website next week.
	You call into a talk radio show today.
	You start some reaching out.
	You go tell your neighbors about the new world order tonight.
	Don't wait.
	You'll wait and your life will run by.
	All I want from you is that you take action.
	All I want from you is that you go up and tell a cop not to be a police state minion.
	Educate them.
unidentified		Interface. It is a big idea.
unidentified		A new world order.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.
unidentified		It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
unidentified		Both their objective being world domination.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For thousands of years, their dark order grew.
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unidentified		Bill Burgess is making great progress toward a world government.
unidentified		Most people have no idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're not after money.
unidentified		They have all the money they need.
		They're after power.
		That's what they're after.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know what's admitted?
		The Intel Center came out yesterday and said, yeah, there's a new Al-Qaeda video out.
		It's fake!
		Trying to make themselves look like they're credible, when they've been caught laying down the same video layer with their icon onto the Al-Qaeda icon.
		Red-handed! Red-handed!
		Red-handed!
		Red-handed!
		Red-handed, red-handed.
		But that's what they know how to feed us.
		There is some kooky-looking nut, I saw like a month ago on local Denver news, going, I will soon release proof of the aliens landing.
		We need to prepare Denver for them to land.
		I mean, I'm not saying there aren't aliens in space, but the point is, is that I don't cover that because I can't prove it.
		This guy, what he's, it's going to be some computer-generated hoax, or some government deal, because you got the Pope saying they're real and worship them, basically.
		You've got all these governments coming out and saying it's real.
		I mean, I'm seeing a lot, you got all these government aircraft flying around Dallas, outside Dallas, freaking everybody out.
		And then now, National Fox News, tomorrow, ladies and gentlemen, on the word of this guy, they're giving him all this attention.
		They're going to show us aliens.
		I remember some kook in Texas, in Austin, who I knew, who got up on his high-rise apartment, he later admitted it to me, was dropping pennies off and videotaping them falling past and saying it was flying saucers.
		But again, this is the American people.
		They think Al-Qaeda is Shiite Iranians.
		Meanwhile, our criminal government runs Al-Qaeda, attacking the Iranians and admitting it, while saying they're Al-Qaeda.
		So, I mean, why not tell them it's space aliens?
		I mean, I ought to get like a plush doll of a alien gray and have it dance around on strings and say, look, proof!
		In fact, let's go to the store and buy one.
		We could film it in five minutes and get major news.
		Fox News would ask you if the plush doll was real.
		We just got to have the strings the same color as the blue screen.
		Okay, I'm just gonna have Richard Gage on for 30 minutes, I think, because I got all this news and I want to cover it all, and I told Eddie to set up Richard Gage.
		And I like Richard, but I've got to somehow cover all this news, but it gets exhausting actually covering it all and trying to cover every facet.
		What I'm going to do is for five minutes, I'm going to cover some top stories, and we'll get back in about a minute.
		And then we're going to hear Richard Gage on, and we'll just enjoy a nice discussion with him about what's developed with architects and engineers at 9-11 Truth, not even the science, now they blew it up, we all know that.
		But the congressional hearing showing his organization and saying they're going to blow everything up with Al-Qaeda and we've got to restrict free speech of the evil Richard Gage, things like that.
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