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randy kelton
And the prosecutor's going to say, well, you're going to file it with me.
OK, I'll file it with you.
And then he'll refuse to give them to the grand jury.
Then I'll file against both of them.
You get up there in the higher areas.
We're the sovereigns.
We can do that.
alex jones
I mean, we're human beings.
randy kelton
They forgot that.
alex jones
I thought they're authorities and we're scum.
randy kelton
Well, I tend to remind them that I'm sovereign.
I never tell them I'm sovereign, but I do things that sovereigns do.
I don't care what they say about a grand jury.
From what I can find in Texas, there's no law in Texas that says I cannot approach the foreman of the grand jury while he's sitting on the toilet.
If it doesn't say I can't do it, I can do it.
So I go to the highest courts, I go to the highest judges and the grand jury at the drop of a hat.
alex jones
Well, Randy, we're going to have to have you back up for two hours to take calls sometime.
Very interesting fellow.
I plan to get George Gordon back on the show, too.
I haven't had him on in about five, six years as we explore other areas, but the website is jurisimprudence.com, and in the next month or so, we'll have another seminar here in Austin or any surrounding area.
I'd like to have you back in the studio to plug that.
Randy Kelton, thanks for the time.
randy kelton
We also have a website.
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It's a little easier to remember.
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alex jones
I'm sure my good friend Danny will appreciate that.
Thank you for coming in.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Randy.
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Okay, I was so busy during the break doing so much, I forgot to ask if we have our next great guest lined up, John.
Fantastic! We are live, ladies and gentlemen, now well into this fourth hour.
And we just had a real character in studio with us, a really nice fellow, Randy Kelton.
Karen, Jesse Ventura's gone further on this show and other shows the last two days, saying that he thinks 9-11 was partially an insurance fraud blowing up the buildings, and that he believes our government may have done it, not just that he thinks we're being lied to.
And, you know, you can love him, you can hate him, the point is it takes courage to do this, and it's really starting to break into the mainstream media.
What do you think about this?
unidentified
Well, I absolutely think that Jesse Ventura has courage.
That is for sure.
I often wonder what Mr. Larry Silverstein is doing these days.
alex jones
Oh, he just now got some new multi-billion dollar settlement.
And he's suing, I think, for $12 billion to get even more.
I mean, he is doing quite nicely on a $189 million investment made two months before the attacks.
unidentified
Yeah, that's quite interesting.
alex jones
Well, it's just amazing is what it is.
I wanted to get you on for most of an hour to take phone calls for folks that wanted to talk about 9-11.
There's a perfect way to do it with all the things that are breaking at 1-800-259-9231.
But I wanted to, with you, talk about, I mean, you said day one you questioned the official story, but I also wanted to walk through, you know, some of the main points you think people should look at, Senator.
unidentified
First of all, if I can, Alex, I want to tell you about something that we are proposing to do out here in the Phoenix area.
I'm very, very excited about it.
We had what we call a 9-11 meet-up group last night, and there is a gentleman by the name of Blaine who is going to do what we're calling hunger for truth, and he is going to do a fast that he is beginning out in front of Senator John McCain's office.
Okay. Barack
Obama's office in Chicago, Hillary Clinton's office in New York, even Nancy Pelosi's office in San Francisco.
So these areas are also going to be targeted with 9-11 people for truth that are trying to get these legislators to open up their eyes.
Why they can't see that there were more than two buildings that fell and one wasn't even hit by a plane is beyond me.
alex jones
Tell us more about this, Senator.
unidentified
Well, you know, if you trust your eyes, you just look at the pictures, you can see that building 7 is falling down, not because it was hit by a plane, but because of explosions, because of demolitions.
And, you know, how do you account for that?
alex jones
Well, you know, we didn't play all of this.
It's about three minutes long.
If it's okay, would you like to hear Jesse Ventura?
On that rascal Howard Stern this morning.
They attacked him because of his appearance here yesterday and a month and a half ago when he first went public saying it's an inside job.
And he went further than ever here and I want you to respond to the disinfo.
That's why we're playing this clip so we can critique it and analyze it for fair use here.
But I want to get your take on that.
You're game to listen to this, right?
unidentified
Sure, you bet.
alex jones
Okay, go ahead and roll it.
howard stern
Hey, you're one of those guys who believes that 9/11, that you don't believe two planes knocked down three buildings, right?
jesse ventura
Well, I believed it when it happened, and then after I got out of office, my son kept badgering me to pay attention to these things on the internet.
And I finally did, and I started studying it, and I started opening my eyes a little.
And there's a lot of very difficult questions that have not been answered.
No one seems to want to provide an answer.
howard stern
What's the most difficult question that you see?
jesse ventura
Well, that a third building could fall into its own footprint five years.
So what do you think happened?
didn't even address the issue.
howard stern
So what do you think happened?
jesse ventura
I hate to fear what could have happened, that possibly we did it to ourselves.
howard stern
You're kidding me.
jesse ventura
Well, Howard, I worked in demolition and was trained by the best guys in the United States Navy being a frog man.
And how could those buildings fall at the rate of gravity?
howard stern
Well, let me ask you something.
It seems to me, I don't know much about this, but when jets go right into a building, couldn't there be so much trauma to the area that things can fall?
jesse ventura
No, because if you study how they built the buildings, those buildings were made to withstand a 707, which is that old plane with the four engines on the wing.
Right. Well, that's as big as what hit it.
And by my studying, they said it was built to...
alex jones
And then I'll get the Senator's comment.
Alright, stop.
Talking to Senator Karen Johnson from Arizona.
I actually have played clips of Nomuro Yamasaki, the designer, the architect, and the structural engineer.
I forget his exact title.
He was the head engineer over its actual construction, the construction engineer.
And he went public.
We have the clip we can play it again, I guess, where he says it was designed to take two strikes per tower of a plane as big or bigger.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Would you like to comment on that?
unidentified
Well, Alex, I definitely agree.
You know, when you look at Building 7, I think it was 47 stories.
The Twin Towers were approximately 110.
And from what we were able to observe over and over and over, those planes hit close to the top of those towers.
And, you know, I can see the top part of it perhaps toppling over.
There is no way.
Fires burn up.
They don't burn down.
And for that, at least, I mean, I'm no expert on this, but to have it go all the way down, a fire from jet fuel, which doesn't even burn hot enough to melt steel, to burn all the way down and, you know, Well, then we have the NASA and FBI photos from aircraft and space showing 2,600-plus degrees, close to 1,000 degrees hotter than jet fuel does at its hottest.
alex jones
I mean, this is insane.
This is absolutely amazing.
And the firefighters reported molten steel flowing like lava down in there.
And then you have BBC reporting that Building 7 fell 25 minutes before it fell, and giving the exact official story of how it then...
I mean, that's like with the JFK murder.
How New Zealand and Australia and Thailand and others reported before they even announced in the U.S. or caught him that it was Lee Harvey Oswald and he'd done it because they got their time zones off.
unidentified
You are right on, Alex.
I still, you know, I've got a picture of that gal reporter from the BBC and she reported I think about 5 p.m. that Building 7 had already collapsed and it didn't collapse until 520 and it's in, you can see it behind her still standing.
I mean, what's going on here?
alex jones
Well, I think we've done the best presentation of that in the new edition of Terror Storm.
That's why I hope people get the DVD at Infowars.com.
uh Karen, I mean, I don't want to focus on how you've been attacked, because, you know, for all the attacks, you've been loved a million times more.
I mean, even the polls show the majority of people know it's an inside job now, not just, you know, that they're being lied to.
But what's, I mean, the ridiculous attacks you've been under, and the things that some local papers have said, I mean, it's really sophomoric, and that's why they're losing all their subscribers.
That's why the mainstream corporate media is falling apart.
So, in a way, they're just destroying themselves.
unidentified
And Alex, you're right about that, and to me, that is what is so encouraging today.
I cannot tell you the amount of email that I have gotten from people that are going, hey, we think you're right, we want to help, we want to look into this.
My wonderful, able assistant, you know, is beginning to put together You know, a whole directory of these folks so that we can keep in touch with them.
Now, I'm not saying that we don't get some pretty nasty ones.
I got one recently from some Republican, you know, that's trying to get me thrown out of the party and I'm thinking, you don't have to worry about that.
I could leave myself pretty easy.
alex jones
Hey, don't worry.
The Republicans that guy likes are for open borders, total gun control, amnesty, giant taxes, tripled BATF, our name destroyed, our dollar destroyed, John McCain, a total con Oh, my gosh.
unidentified
We do have a pretty good wing here in Arizona that, you know, we're staunchly behind Ron Paul, and we still are.
alex jones
No, I know that, but I mean in the highest power positions.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
I mean, of course, the party would win and take over if you were constitutionalist, but they act like wonderful people like you are bad instead of the leadership.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. We're nothing.
We're non-entities.
And it's pretty sad.
But the people themselves are out there, Alex.
They listen to folks like you.
They get on the internet.
They search themselves because they're truth seekers.
And that's what we have to have.
alex jones
By the way, that's true.
Free Republic is one of the biggest websites in the world.
Now we're bigger than they are.
There's no one goes to them because it's literally low-grade morons saying open borders, New World Order, North American Union are good.
And so they're gone.
I mean the other big sites are shadows of what they were because they had to sell out to the neocons.
unidentified
Well, we've got to keep going.
We've got to get more information out.
We have to get more, you know, converts, Alex, and that's what we're trying to do here, and I will keep speaking out no matter what.
alex jones
Well, you're wonderful.
What else?
We're about to go to break.
When we come back, I want to hear from Karen Johnson about whatever is on her mind, where she thinks this country's going, if you're positive about the future or negative, and then we're going to take calls at 1-800-259-9231.
We've got her for another Well, 40 minutes to be exact.
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Jesse Ventura saying the 9-11, the government was probably behind it.
Not just that it looks like an inside job.
Now he's saying who did the job.
That it's insurance fraud is part of it.
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Talking to State Senator Karen Johnson, what do you think is most important today in our world?
What do you see happening in our future?
Are you optimistic or what?
unidentified
Oh, Alex, I wish I could be more optimistic.
The more that I learn and the more that I read, I have to admit that it's pretty frustrating, but I just Thank God that we have people like yourself out there and many other great organizations that are trying to alert the people to the peril that we are in because we are losing our country.
Well, perhaps it's pretty far gone, but there are things that we can do and the more people that we wake up and that we help become alert to what's happening around them, you know, the better chance we'll have of saving our country.
alex jones
What do you see happening on the horizon with the dollar plunging, our name destroyed, all three presidential candidates are the worst I've ever seen?
unidentified
Oh, I couldn't agree more about that.
I, you know, I was very disappointed and yet I'm not sure if it was the American people.
When we had a candidate like Ron Paul, a really, probably the best candidate we've had in decades, that's ever, well, perhaps ever.
But, you know, He's out there.
He's expressing his thoughts and views, which are strictly and totally constitutional.
And yet, you know, he gets 8, 10, maybe 15 percent, you know, out in the voting.
But I'm not sure that the voting is being counted right.
I'm thinking that we may be past having, you know, really accurate voting, Alex.
alex jones
Well, what else does the federal government not cheat in?
I mean, these voting machine companies have all been caught red-handed.
unidentified
Yeah, it's pretty sad.
Last year, oh my gosh, I ran a bill here in the Arizona State Legislature.
It actually died at least nine times.
I don't know how we ever got it through, and it was an absolute miracle that our Democrat governor signed it.
And it was such a really small thing.
We simply require a 2% hand count, you know, at the end of the day on random sample precincts so that nobody knows ahead of time which ones are going to be counted.
You know, and then we get into the computer disk that's in the Dybul's and the Sequoia's.
And anyway, it was such a little thing, but wow, did we have a lot of opposition to that.
It was very difficult to even get that through.
alex jones
Well, it's simple.
It's what the Founding Fathers told us.
There's a lot of money involved in government.
They always take over societies of their left of their own devices.
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There are powerful, intelligent interests that want to use the mechanism of government to enslave and control.
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unidentified
Senator? Yes, no, I couldn't agree more.
One of the things that was so disturbing here in Arizona is that our governor, Democrat Janet Napolitano, signed on this last fall with, of all people, Republican Homeland Security Director Chertoff to put Arizona into this pilot program for the national ID.
Not only will that cost the state some money if, in fact, it were implemented, and we're over a $2 billion deficit.
But we did run a bill this year to opt us out of the Real ID, to say that Arizona's not going to have anything to do with it.
And I was so proud of the governor from Montana, you know, who just told Mr. Chertoff where to go, where the sun doesn't shine.
And hopefully, he will contact our governor and say, sign this bill, because it has passed both the House and the Senate.
And we're waiting to see whether or not she's going to sign it.
alex jones
Well, the incredible thing is, They give all the illegals passes, they accept bank cards that the banks give them with no ID, and then they tell the public, oh, it's to stop the illegals when the government gives them a free pass.
Under the NAU, the fence is basically going to be used to keep us in, and then the illegals will just be legal to go and come as they will.
So it's, you know, they're selling it to some conservatives as something to, quote, stop illegal immigration.
They could do that overnight by prosecuting employers.
unidentified
They absolutely have really deluded some of the conservatives with that particular issue, and it's been a real hard sell sometimes to turn them around.
I've been appreciative of all entities.
The ACLU has been extremely helpful in pushing this particular issue, as well as helping me with one other issue, and that was that we're not going to fingerprint our kids in school.
alex jones
Oh, absolutely.
I want to hear about that when we get back.
And your phone call, State Senator Karen Johnson, an amazing lady, speaking up for 9-11 Truth.
Stay with us.
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Senator Johnson, finishing up with thumb scanning to get school lunches, thumb scanning to get your library books, training you to be a prisoner.
When did you find out about that?
How did you block that in Arizona?
unidentified
Alex, thank you.
Before I address that, I just, I want to thank you for all of that great information.
Boy, do we want to see you grow and get into a bigger building.
We need you out there fighting this New World Order.
And as far as getting your supply or food storage, wow!
Everybody's got to be doing that.
So, that's great information.
alex jones
Yeah, that makes you not dependent on Big Brother.
Did you see the New York Times article where it said 44% national increase in local tattletale lines?
They're tattling to get money to pay the rent or to get gas.
unidentified
I did!
That's all that.
alex jones
What'd you think of it?
unidentified
I'm just going, holy cow, what is going on now?
It's just getting crazier and crazier.
alex jones
Grandmothers turning their grandchildren in for 500 bucks for marijuana.
Meanwhile, we know who ships in the real drugs.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Just absolutely incredible.
Well, I mean, my point is, is that that's what they do.
They'll shut the food off and say, turn your neighbor in for guns, and you get food.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
And people are going to be in such dire straits because they haven't planned, and they haven't prepared, and they're so ignorant that it's going to be pretty, pretty devastating.
alex jones
Well, it certainly is.
So, I don't even know about that, so they don't tell us about victories.
You guys ban at the state level the thumb scanners to get their lunches?
unidentified
Yes. The bill, the actual bill that I ran says that it prohibits public schools From collecting biometric information from pupils unless the schools receive written parental permission.
But we even took that out.
I mean, it just can't be done.
alex jones
Well, you're really a heroine.
You're a hero.
unidentified
Well, we got some good support, as I said, from the ACLU on this, so that was kind of interesting.
alex jones
Well, you see, the ACLU's got, from my experience, I'd like to get your take on it, great members, and they mean well.
But at the top, they create bad case law.
At the top, they're controlled.
Just like the NRA, we've proven in their own internal documents, is a gun control group.
They always keep their friends close, their enemies closer.
And so they're there, and so yeah, I'm sure you've got a good local chapter, and they bear some good fruit, but nothing like Karen Johnson.
Everything you do is good.
unidentified
Well, you know, Alex, it's funny because here we had such great support, you know, on this opting out of the Real ID and the fingerprint.
But then, let me tell you, I ran a bill this year that just about blew up the House in the Senate.
It was in regards to concealed weapons, carrying them on your universities and college campuses.
And the original bill allowed Anybody to carry on to any campuses, even, you know, grade schools and junior high and high schools.
We're talking about now adults that are valid concealed weapon carry permit holders.
We're not talking about kids carrying guns, which some people got a little mixed up about.
But this thing just blew the lid off of what was going on down here.
I mean, talk about controversy.
alex jones
Yeah, you send your children to a place where it's been advertised in the national media that psychos are supposed to go, who are always on Prozac-type drugs, Prozac class.
It's advertised.
What do I do when I'm depressed and psycho and get out of some government mind-control facility?
I go up and shoot schools up, and then we send our children to a place where no one's allowed to protect them.
unidentified
Exactly. You know, I've got this poster in my office that a lot of people got a kick out of, because it has a picture of a gun, you know, a handgun, with the line through it.
And it says, attention criminals, gun-free zone.
All law-abiding faculty, staff, and students of this institution have been disarmed for your convenience.
alex jones
Absolutely. We're wonderful.
We should all put out posters like that and hang them everywhere.
Now look, I said people can disagree.
This guy calls about once a week.
And I'm not going to spend a long time with him.
He always says the same stuff.
It's like pulling a string on one of those dolls.
But we'll go to Justin first, then we'll go to everybody else.
Justin in Texas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Hi, yes, I was just calling to disagree, of course.
And I just wanted to tell Senator Karen Johnson that maybe the reason that she's not convinced with the original story of 9-11 is because she's influenced by intellectually bankrupt movies like Loose Change.
Okay, thank you for the call.
alex jones
And everything you said is disinfo and not true, and you're not going to stop us exposing the government-sponsored terror.
Let me tell you something, these debunking sites One of them goes, oh my gosh, I'm in the army.
I am having to get a chip that tracks me.
But I guess there's still kooks.
It didn't exist, but now it does.
And you're a hero to take your chip.
And that very guy you just heard, or someone claiming to be him, went and posted on there and said, oh, you're a hero.
It's good to take chips for your government.
And they'll say Northwoods isn't real.
They'll say Gulf of Tonkin wasn't staged.
It doesn't matter.
The Chicago Tribune admits, the NSA admits that U.S.S.
Liberty was attacked, to be sunk, to blame it on Egypt, that Israel did know it was an American ship.
They'll just say it's not true.
Karen, that must be pretty easy when you just deny reality.
unidentified
Well, you know, Alex, my resources for my feelings on 9-11 Come from, you know, Richard Gage from Architects and Engineers for Truth.
I think their website is AE911Truth.
alex jones
And they've now published, not just in their own published scientific groups, but in prestigious publications.
unidentified
Peer-reviewed!
alex jones
That's right!
It's over for you, terrorist!
unidentified
Okay? And then, you know, I personally know Dr. Stephen Jones.
I've been to three different conferences where we've been able to sit and discuss a lot of this.
And then David Ray Griffin was here not too long ago in Phoenix and I had the privilege of listening to him and getting some of his information.
I think these people are pretty doggone credible people.
alex jones
They are.
Let's talk to, who's up next here?
Maury in Arizona, you're on the air with Senator Karen Johnson.
unidentified
Karen Johnson for governor, yay!
Senator, I wanted to ask you, do you support submission to federal jurisdiction and destruction of the state sovereignty for Arizona?
I support states' rights.
alex jones
Yeah, she introduced a bill in, what, 99 when Clinton was getting ready for martial law for the state to secede if they confiscated guns or declared a new world order.
Why don't you tell them about that?
unidentified
I'm talking about the English Language Learning Act.
Federal Judge Collins, I called him up and asked him why he issued an illegal order, and he said because the state of Arizona in the year 2000 submitted to federal jurisdiction and surrendered the state sovereignty, and it was Governor Janet Napolitano Let me just say this.
alex jones
That's what Homeland Security is.
They're federalizing schools.
They're federalizing firemen, giving them guns, having them spy on you, ruining our wonderful firemen.
I mean, it's just a disease of federal scum.
unidentified
Senator? Well, I can tell you that it's been extremely frustrating and disturbing to me that our legislators here in Arizona, many of them, including our leadership, have acquiesced to And
alex jones
And that's because they want to move up the crime syndicate ladder to the international and federal level.
I think you're right.
And, well, please elaborate then if you'd like to elaborate on that, if you agree, Senator.
But the bigger problem here...
Is it the Feds take a dollar of our money on average and give us 33 cents back on average?
These idiots think that it's free money, Senator.
unidentified
We've been trying to get our state to hold on to all of our transportation taxes here because we're one of those donor states and we've said, hey, look, let's hold all of our transportation taxes.
Let's spend the money on what we need to spend on if there's anything left.
Then maybe we'll send it on to the federal government.
If not, we need to do what we need to do here with it.
alex jones
Yes, why give them money to hire more shaved head guys with devil tats all over them to be BATF officers while they drive around in bright yellow Corvettes and live in million-dollar houses dealing narcotics?
Okay, thank you so much, Mari.
Arthur and Mash, you're on the air with Senator Karen Johnson.
unidentified
Hello? Yes, sir.
Oh, is this Alex?
alex jones
Yes, sir.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thank you, sir.
I've been a longtime friend, listener of yours since the beginning.
alex jones
We are friends.
We're all a family.
unidentified
And I have all your videos, and I wanted to let you and the Senator know, she mentioned meetups.
I've been a member of a meetup that meets in Cambridge on Sundays, and it's kind of a strange name.
They call it the Conspiracy Cafe, but it basically deals with 9-11 truth, the truth about everything, you know, not just 9-11.
And You know, I'm very, very tired.
I woke up during the 60s when I was in Vietnam.
That's when I became aware of what the world's really about.
I looked behind the curtain.
And what's frustrating is 99 out of 100 people I talk to, you try to reason with them about 9-11, the New World Order, the Bilderbergers, the Rothschilds.
People look at me like I belong in a mental institution, and they'll say that's all urban folklore.
alex jones
Oh, yeah, they say Bilderberg doesn't exist, CFR doesn't exist.
unidentified
Like I mentioned...
alex jones
But that's what, listen, Bilderberg's having its meeting in the U.S. I heard that on your show yesterday.
They used to normally have it in Europe, and they're doing it because we have a more blacked-out media, and we have police that'll go after citizens.
Senator Johnson comments?
unidentified
Well, they need to have a subscription to American Free Press.
I mean, my gosh, they expose...
You know, Michael Collins Piper writes about the Bilderbergers all the time.
I mean, he does great work.
You do great work.
There is information all over that is extremely accurate and documented about this group.
alex jones
Absolutely. Anything else, Arthur?
unidentified
You know, it's like the NAU, the Amero.
Everyone I talk to, they say, where are you getting your information?
I point them.
You know, to the web, or I brought up the topic of eugenics.
That's make-believe, it's not real.
And then, when I point them somewhere on the web, they'll say, well, the web's all make-believe, and it's run by wackos.
alex jones
And if you point them at U.S. Government documents, Library of Congress, they say, that doesn't exist.
unidentified
Actually, I've sent some of them to the PNAC site.
If you want to hear it from the horse's rear end, you know, go to PNAC.
Well, how do we know that's not a real thing?
alex jones
Well, look, they're living in denial, and they're going to...
I mean, look, I appreciate your call.
I've got people telling me the dollar hasn't been devalued, and I'm a liar, and then they go on the message boards and say I'm Al-Qaeda, trying to lie to them.
The government's all, I'm not kidding, they say that I'm working for Al-Qaeda.
The White House has said the 9-11 truth works for Ahmadinejad, Senator.
unidentified
Oh, Alex, you know what I do in answer to this gentleman?
When I start talking to people, if they I think I'm out, whacked out, and kooky.
I move on.
I find people that are open and respectful.
alex jones
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, the type of people that don't know we're in big trouble.
I mean, if anybody can't smell the stench of corruption, there's some...
Senator, go ahead and make your point.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
No, no, no.
You made the point.
And going back to the issue of states' rights here, we've got another issue.
Oh my gosh, Alex, this is one that has just been huge here in Arizona.
We have the federal government coming in to our federal parks here, if you would, and forests, like the Tonto National Forest, the Fitgraves National Forest that we have up north, and we have the Saguaro National Monument, other areas.
And they're closing down the roads.
They are preventing the public from coming in and using these areas.
I mean, they don't want a human footprint back in a lot of these areas.
And these lands belong to us.
They belong to the people here in the state of Arizona and the people of the United States.
And we have run a bill to say, stop.
You are not going to do that anymore in Arizona.
We're opening these roads up and they're going to stay so people can get back in there for camping, for hiking.
They can take their ATVs.
They can do what they want back in there, you know, without destroying the environment.
But we've got to do this.
And for the federal government to come in and just arbitrarily start closing down these roads and locking us out.
alex jones
It's all about power, all about control, absolute trash.
Chris in Florida, you're on the air, go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, Alex.
I just wanted to applaud the Senator for coming forward and being so open-minded.
The second thing, I wanted to ask two things.
One, are there other American legislators that are Control!
alex jones
Control! A few final callers, but I want to get your take on why they did it.
No-bid contracts, hundreds of billions a year in no-bid contracts.
Grabbing land, grabbing oil, domestic police state.
They did it for Israel, they did it for a lot of things.
unidentified
It is a big idea.
A new world order.
alex jones
In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.
unidentified
It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
Could their objective be world domination?
alex jones
For thousands of years, their dark order grew.
Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.
For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.
You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.
unidentified
The Oval Party is making great progress toward a world government.
Most people have no idea.
They're not after money.
They have all the money they need.
They're after power.
That's what they're after these years.
alex jones
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unidentified
Wake up, Protestant America!
There is an ecumenical movement now being planned to join church and state.
This confederation of evangelicals, Catholics, and Protestant denominations will form one huge political voting bloc.
Their agenda is enforcement of religious worship and morality by legislation.
Our forefathers wrote the Bill of Rights to guarantee all Americans this freedom, liberty of conscience.
History and the Bible prove to them that these two systems, church and state, must be kept separate.
It must be our love of God and of country that prompts or constrains us.
This will change the character, not civil enforcement.
From history, we saw that when Church and State United, known as Papal Rome, religious intolerance resulted.
This union would go directly contrary to the great principles of our nation.
Protestant America, awake before it is too late.
The prophecies are fast fulfilling.
Jesus is coming soon.
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All right, we're going to end the transmission in about five minutes.
A bunch of big guests today.
A lot of key info was covered.
Be sure and listen to the retransmission on the web.
It starts in just a few minutes at infowars.com.
I'm begging you listeners to go to Infowars.com where the top three stories about Jesse Ventura saying they blew up the towers for an insurance scam.
He thinks the government did it.
He's gone even further.
His interview here yesterday.
This is big news and this will not punch out in the Associated Press and then hundreds of papers and they get everybody talking around the water coolers.
It just grows every minute.
We need to use this now.
Get this out now.
Infowars.com, ladies and gentlemen.
Infowars.com.
PrisonPlanet.com.
Get the articles.
Post them on every message board.
Send them to the Neocon talk show host.
They'll take the bait and attack Jesse.
People will find out about it.
Send these articles to your whole, you know, email list.
We need your help.
Senator Johnson, what's your take on, you know, using the celebrity-obsessed culture, plus he's a former governor, now that he's really gone public on this show yesterday, on Stern today, to really get this out?
Do you think that's important?
unidentified
Oh, my gosh.
Absolutely, Alex.
You know, you kind of ask why, you know, why these things happened, and I guess that's one of the big questions and why we want to see an investigation, because, you know, we need to know who benefited.
That's what I'm looking at.
If you follow the money, we've spent over $3 trillion now on a war in Iraq that had nothing to do with 9-11.
alex jones
That a handful of groups get.
unidentified
Right, right.
Oh my gosh, a handful of corporations like Blackwater and Halliburton and Brown and Root and on and on.
And then you've got, we've got the Patriot Act, we've got Homeland Security, we've got now the Real ID, we lost our habeas corpus, you know, we've got illegal wiretapping.
These are all things that I don't think could have been pushed on the American people without 9-11.
alex jones
I agree, and now the crooks know that we're on to them, so they already have their police state set up in case we try to remove them.
They've got their electronic voting machines going in.
A perfect storm of evil, but the people are waking up like never before, and the globalists themselves say they're scared.
So now is the time for courage to speak up, not to cower.
Some people are on the air saying, be quiet, don't tell anyone you're against the new world order, they'll get you.
No, if we cower, then they win.
Senator, comments on that?
unidentified
Well, you're absolutely right and I, oh, Alex, I appreciate you so much and what you are doing and have been doing for a long time now and for others that are willing to stand up and to speak out.
I mean, we've got to do it!
alex jones
Well, you were awake a long time before I was, but you said that one of the reasons you passed that law against the whole New World Order deal in your state, or tried to, about getting the UN out, was because you saw some of my films, and you know, then you help wake up other people, I wake up people, you woke up folks that probably woke me up.
I mean, it's all symbiotic, and we're together on this, so I don't want any of the listeners to think that their talking to their neighbors and friends doesn't have an effect.
unidentified
Oh, absolutely.
Absolutely. We are setting up little groups and it's just like here in Arizona, you know, we have these meet-up groups.
And, you know, and if people want to help with this 9-11 issue, they can donate money to this cause if they can't get out and participate more, you know, on a personal level.
alex jones
And I want to be clear, folks.
If we don't expose government-sponsored terror and turn it back now, they're going all the way.
This isn't just going to be some banana republic tyranny.
This is a scientific one.
These are very cold-blooded people.
Senator Johnson, I want to thank you for all the time you spent with us.
Do you want to fire out your senatorial website?
unidentified
Uh, gee, I don't even know what it is.
alex jones
Ha ha, you just typed Taryn Johnson into Google.
unidentified
Yeah, the website is just A-Z-L-E-G dot gov.
alex jones
Anything else you want to plug?
unidentified
Uh, no, just I want people to get involved.
And I want them to belong to these meet-up groups.
And, you know, go in to, uh, send some money to...
The architects and engineers at 911truth.com.
I mean, they need money to continue the push to get an independent investigation.
alex jones
Absolutely. Our lives depend on it.
Take care, Senator.
Thank you.
Folks, we're out of time.
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