Alex Jones and Jason Bermas dissect Jesse Ventura's 9/11 insurance fraud theories and JFK assassination claims before interviewing Randy Kelton, a sovereign citizen detailing Texas police misconduct. Kelton alleges aggravated kidnapping when officers bypass magistrates, recounts assaulting him in Williamson County, and describes disqualifying a Bell County judge over testimony credibility. They argue systemic corruption involves eroding habeas corpus and criminalizing citizens, suggesting the "Frog Farm Conspiracy" gradually dismantles legal standards to enable state overreach. [Automatically generated summary]
So then he, uh, they bring up, well, you're one of those guys that doesn't think that two planes could bring down three buildings, and he brings up building seven quick, but then he also brings up how the World Trade Center Twin Towers weren't making money anymore, and that it was going to cost a billion dollars to take the asbestos out, at least.
And then he mentioned the $7 billion insurance scam.
Well, the little clip I heard was Robin trying to deny, going, well those buildings had problems, and well they collapsed because of an Easter Bunny.
Let's be clear here.
NIST has given five reasons it fell, and then they have retracted.
Not the fuel tank, not bad construction, not melting steel, not weakening steel.
They have now had to come in Not the tower falling, not the North Tower falling into it.
Turns out it only had some windows knocked out.
Potman Mechanic shows a fake photo.
It's even gray.
The building side, it's not the red building side, brick red.
They show the World Financial Center.
They won't even show the right building.
I mean, that's the type of scams they engage in.
You know, they say NORAD never intercepted anybody in the year before 9-11.
Total lie.
We have Reuters with the head of it saying 160-something times the year before.
I mean, it's just the deception of our enemies.
It's like they're now saying we're lying and there weren't Pentagon videos and others confiscated by the FBI.
When it's all admitted they won't release those tapes, but it doesn't matter.
The public's weak-minded.
They just show video and say we're lying.
I mean, this is the level of dis- or they bring out black propaganda and that's where you Going back to JFK, folks, he would have cops and FBI and coroners who were going to testify, and they'd be totally normal, 30-40 year careers, totally normal, 25 year careers, and they'd get up on stand and say, I am a space alien, or they'd get up on stand and say, I fingerprint my daughter every day to make sure they haven't, you know, taken her.
I'm a fingerprinting expert, and then go...
You know, I mean, that's what they do, and so Stern is having black propaganda on.
I mean, if I wanted to have them over a barrel, I could.
My God, the slander is just the worst stuff they can say is being said.
Then they have Ventura on, and I haven't had a chance to hear it all yet.
Let's go ahead and play a few minutes of this to analyze enemy propaganda.
Well, I believed it when it happened, and then after I got out of office, my son kept badgering me to pay attention to these things on the internet, and I finally did, and I started studying it, and I started opening my eyes a little, and there's a lot of very difficult questions that have not been answered, and no one seems to want to provide an answer.
Well, Howard, I worked in demolition and was trained by the best guys in the United States Navy, being a frogman, and how could those buildings fall at the rate of gravity?
No, because if you study how they built the buildings, those buildings were made to withstand a 707 which is that old plane with the four engines on the wing right well that's as big as what hit it and by my studying they said it was built to where if a plane penetrated it it would be like a pencil going through a screen door but it seems unthinkable to me that our own government I mean I mean nothing's unthinkable don't you talking about power you
You're talking about foreign policy changing over this event.
You're talking about getting control of the Middle Eastern oil.
He broke that he's on I Love and Truth are on this show a month and a half ago.
And then they said they wanted to come back on.
They knew it had a great response and he likes the films and what we do.
And so I get him back on and he says, oh man, they're really attacking me.
And then the one question, because I was thinking the night before, what do I ask?
And I wrote some notes here.
The one question was, well, who did it?
Why'd they do it?
You know, what's the motive?
And of course I talked about that with him two years ago in an interview where he said they might have done it.
When he first started to talk.
That was even before he'd seen Loose Change.
I pushed him over the edge.
And I gave him some of my films.
But I was literally waking up last night mad that I hadn't asked that question.
And then thank God he just says it on Stern so we now have it.
And then he brought the insurance thing.
This is going to go crazy.
Our government may have done 9-11, that's the headline.
Another headline, insurance fraud.
We need multiple articles, attack pattern Delta, tying in the video we got him a few days ago and the audio we've got here with all of it.
And then challenging, we need articles, new people are going to be seeing this, that go through it all.
And show what Jesse's saying, and show Building 7, and show the designers and builders saying about how it could take two fully loaded jets, not one.
Yeah, they said two of those big jumbo jets.
So, we need to show all that, we need to show how NIST admits that bombs, they're now looking at bombs for two years, and they keep saying, we'll release it in a month, we'll release it in a month.
They'll never release what brought it down, because they scientifically know.
Now there have been scientific papers published, prestigious journals that are accredited saying yeah it had to be bombs I mean Burmese what are they gonna do?
Well what they're gonna try to do with building seven is go by their pattern where they're not allowed to look at floors below I believe it's either the 11th or the seventh floor at all and we know that's where a lot of the damage on the front side of the building was we also know that the eyewitnesses that were inside the building that were blown up on the eighth floor you know said that there were multiple explosions inside the So what they're going to do is they're going to take that 8th floor and bring it down and never even mention those.
And they're going to say something happened on the 9th or 10th floor that caused instability in the building, that probably caused those fuel tanks to go up, and I believe there was also a large power generator there too.
I'm sure that's going to fit into play as well.
But here we are, Alex, we're almost seven years later.
Still no NIST report.
And the guy that's heading this NIST report, I think it's Sander something or other, this scientist, he's the guy that went to Popular Mechanics and said 25% or 10 stories of the building was actually scooped out.
Yeah, and when we asked them, when we did our debate with Popular Mechanics, where they got that photograph from, or why they were able to see photographs that still weren't public, and we hadn't seen them.
Well, if that's the case, okay, if that's the case, if you use that analogy, then when you go camping and use a propane stove, which propane burns hotter than kerosene does, if you leave it on for two hours and you put a big can of beans on your grill, shouldn't the grill collapse?
See that Fred?
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It's not that much weight and it's not that much heat.
But the thing is, again, this is going to reach some of those everymen.
Maybe this reaches, you know, a hundred more cops, a hundred more firemen, you know, a hundred more guys that were down there as first responders that saw that molten metal that day are now ready to come public.
Well, absolutely, but I'm saying, you know, people that were actually there at Ground Zero that do have first-hand eyewitness account information that's valuable.
Well, I mean, I don't appreciate Howard Stern's operation, I don't want to give any names out, letting people on saying the worst things you can say about me, and I'm very lenient and I've got thick skin, but there's some things, I'm just so busy I don't have time to write them a letter or call these bastards up and say, listen, You know, it's one thing you want to say I'm a liar, I'm a kook, I'm bad, but don't you dare say the things that are being said on there about me.
That's a total lie, and that's life-wrecking type stuff that's being said.
But the scum that does this, not just Stern letting it happen, but the scum that's saying it.
I mean, they never listen until I end up dragging them through court.
And sometimes you just have to go through that legal process to prove to people that you're not playing around, that this is a serious issue, that you can't slander me in every which way, shape, and form to try to discredit the actual information that's out there.
Nah man, this is all about the information and it's always about attacking the messenger and not the message.
And they don't want to attack the message because when you have somebody who's as smart as Ventura, who can present the information in a concise manner, who isn't Looney Tunes going, no planes hit the buildings, mashed potato planes and all this other nonsense, that's obviously there to discredit us.
You have to address the information.
And I think that's what they're gonna do.
I hope that, you know, the guys over at Stern actually read his book and maybe that leads them to Loose Change or Terror Storm or Road to Tyranny.
Actually, Gary, the producer, said that his son did watch Loose Change and Gary still won't watch it because it's a quote-unquote fake movie.
So, you know, again, we're trying to bring more and more people in.
Let's go back and play the key part of the clip with Howard Stern on the main show.
And again, I'm not looking for trouble.
It's just somebody send this clip to Stern and let them know, man, you better listen to what your boys are saying about me because you're on very thin ice.
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I'm a big businessman and they're going down as a dinosaur.
While they used to grow food in Kansas, then they want to grow down the moon and eat it raw.
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I can see the day coming when I'm keeping your home.
Like, even when you say that the planes were made to go through a certain way, you've never seen anything that was built to work a certain way, but you never know until something happens.
Well, there is also in the report that they did not build They didn't build the buildings to code.
They scrimped and they didn't do everything they were supposed to do.
of which you have a couple or i might have to read your book you might have to it's called don't start the revolution without me it's in stores now jit by jesse ventura governor jesse ventura And you even believe, you're one of those guys, you don't even believe that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone again in the Kennedy assassination.
I mean, you know, that interview is almost over and they ridicule him for believing that Oswald was not the lone assassin after he's off the air.
But just go to the videotape of the Secret Service by Kennedy that day.
As they're turning the corner at Dealey Plaza, one of the Secret Service agents at the back of his car actually gets called off and he's not happy about it, Alex.
He starts yelling and saying, no, I'm not going to do it.
Somebody ought to get this video online and add that video over it.
Our great listeners, we don't have the personnel, but you can take it and put it all together for folks.
And it shows a couple of them actually going, what?
What are you saying?
And then they later said that all procedures were blocked.
You got LBJ behind him in the radio calling in the assault.
Get ready, we're going with sniper position one.
Because they had kill zones all the way down to the airport.
They were ready with hand grenade attacks, bazooka attacks.
If they had to, they were going to have military kill him and go to full martial law.
They had riot troops in the air from the army flying above Dallas and Hours before Oswald's name came out, when the police were first, minutes after Kennedy's kill, it's already published in New Zealand, Australia, Thailand, that Lee Harvey Oswald did it.
Open and shut, just like they announced building 7 blew up before it blew up.
You know, just that he's a brave guy, he's going to bring more and more people into 9-11 Truth.
I was very, very happy with his conversation with the Minnesotans where he likened the press to pedophiles, you know, with the same disdain as for pedophiles because they're just there to attack.
And he refuses to talk to the Minnesota Press, and God bless him for that.
But he also brought up the Gulf of Tonkin, and how he was very surprised when he was over at Harvard, and McNamara came out in a speech and said, yeah, the whole thing was staged.
He said he really took that to heart.
And when some people in the audience who are obviously just not that educated on false flag terrorism or the Vietnam War in general heard that, they couldn't believe it.
And he's like, yes, that's true.
The Gulf of Tonkin never happened.
It's well documented.
Maybe it's time that you start rethinking 9-11 now.
Absolutely, and I think the big problem was that all of their policy papers were available in PDF format, as well as their members.
In other words, they had a list of members that were very high-profile people.
People started getting hip to the Rebuilding America's Defenses document, which clearly states they need to stage a new Pearl Harbor-type event to go into the Middle East.
They literally talk about the transformation of the military to UAVs and small robots, but they really say, yo, we're taking over the Middle East.
Well, even the cached stuff that you can find that was on their website that we didn't cache, in other words, just the stuff that's left over from their site, only has partial documents.
We are now into hour number three, but we've now got a fourth hour coming up because there's so much news and information to cover.
We'll cover a lot of news with Arizona State Senator Karen Johnson coming up in the fourth hour today.
Somebody I've wanted to get in studio for quite a while is a radio talk show host.
He also does presentations.
I guess I'll let him describe what he thinks he is and the work he does.
There's a lot of These kind of tinkerers in law and the Constitutional Bill of Rights, and most of them are very unsuccessful.
I've seen them send many people I know, acquaintances to prison, magical straw man theories, UCC theories, imaginary quackery.
So I don't traffic in that.
Or people setting up trust and then they have you sign your property over to them and they take it.
Some of the folks around ten years ago used to do that and so I wouldn't have anything to do with them and then they'd say I was a government agent because I wouldn't promote sending my listeners to somebody and get them sent to prison.
You know, basic stuff like you saw with the poor Freeman.
You know, passing all these fake notes around.
I'm not even saying they're bad people.
They just are given a line of bull and they run with it.
And that's why I have Larry Becraft on and other real lawyers and constitutional scholars.
Because there are, George Gordon's another good one.
He's won the Supreme Court and other state courts and state Supreme Courts and federal appellate courts.
So I only have on people who I know won't send you directly to jail.
Still, fighting the enemy will have them come after you in many cases.
These are criminals who've had their way, that almost always win, who even think being criminal is good.
And so, Randy Kelton, we'll also be talking during the breaks.
If you're listening to InfoWars.com audio streams or watching on PrisonPlanet.tv, we're kind of overbooked today, and so I want to give him most of the full hour.
So we're just going to talk straight through during the three-minute breaks.
So folks, sorry to the MNFMs, this info is too important, but we appreciate you.
Folks will hear that after the break, but for internet listeners and for folks watching at PrisonPlanet.tv, this is so important, it's a public service announcement, that we're going to go ahead and blow through the breaks, but you'll have to go to InfoWars.com to hear those on those streams.
Also, even though you hear this, don't think you can just run out and do this immediately.
Understand it's at your own peril.
This is a lawless, criminal government.
So there is no silver bullet here.
But I want to thank Randy Kelton for coming in.
Randy, take a minute or two to tell folks about yourself, a veteran, how you woke up with the New World Order.
I like how you talk about some of the wrong things you did, how you woke up to that, because people can always turn back and become good people like you've done, and then stand up for righteousness.
Well, my main experience I had there was Uncle Sam gave me the honor and privilege of holding my twin brother's hand in Chulai, South Vietnam, while he died of gangrene.
The last intelligible thing he said to me on this earth, before the gangrene, the pain, and morphine took his mind away, he was looking across the hall at a VC they were taking care of, and he said, you know, they're going to win this war.
One other person got hurt, but he was the only one that didn't survive.
And he would have survived, except he had a negative blood type.
When I got to Vietnam, the doctor met me in the doorway of the medevac hospital and asked me my blood type.
I said A-positive.
He said, you're Richard's twin?
Yes, I am.
That can't be.
His is A-negative.
Yes, it can.
Darn near killed me.
It's not supposed to be possible for twins to be opposite RH factor.
He said he didn't think there were 10 pints of A-negative blood in country.
He put out a call and got 100.
The 63rd killed him.
Something in it he responded to shut down his kidneys and from that point they knew he was gonna he would not survive and the gangrene took him and he went hard.
I'm trying to do the only thing I can to undermine these guys.
I'm very focused.
I don't look into all kinds of different theories of law.
It is my position that you and I are sovereign citizens.
Not sovereign in the context of my sovereign rights and my sovereign privileges, but in my sovereign duty.
These people are my employees and they are not to forget it.
When I go into a court, I wear two hats.
I go in with my litigants hat on.
But when one of my public officials steps across one of my legal lines, that litigants hat comes off, and my sovereign hat goes on, and we're gonna fight.
You start reading how they're supposed to conduct their activities and what they really do, and you find out that it's just all lawless criminal activity.
And just explain what you've gone through, what you've witnessed, the victories you've had, the defeats you've had, that Williamson County story.
We'll tell you more about that as we have him with us in the hour.
So, it's the early 1980s.
Start back there.
You get pulled over, then you get taken to jail for a headlight out, and you go back and look at the law, and look at what they're supposed to do, and look at the code, break that down, then we'll go through the sagas, and the things you've witnessed, and the people you've gotten fired, the people you've gotten in trouble, because you have had some successes.
The reason I brought that up is so many people go before the courts, and they get screwed around, and they think there must be some magic thing that I missed.
There's something important I don't know.
Well, there's not.
These guys are just criminals.
They're just doing whatever they want to do because they believe they can.
I kicked this dog for some 25 years.
Three dislocated ribs, two broken collarbones, and a broken elbow.
I never brought this to anyone else because I hadn't found a way to do it safely.
He was in a bad mood and he asked me for my proof of insurance and I said, well, if I show you my proof of insurance and you look at it and see that it expired yesterday, what will you do?
He said, I'll arrest you.
In that case, I'm not going to show it to you.
Well, he arrested me anyway.
But that was really a minor thing.
It just opened the door.
After that, I had a sheriff's deputy try to kill me once in front of my house.
Well, I've seen cases where the guy's got a sign saying our judicial system's a joke outside the judge's jurisdiction, and he has cops go arrest him for saying that.
Yes, for me it was difficult and I absolutely knew that I'm going to kick you guys behinds every way from Sunday, but it was still difficult standing on that cold concrete floor for 29 hours.
This happens to everybody.
I've had a number of things.
My elbow got broke.
It was kind of my fault because I told a bailiff when I was trying to file criminal charges with the grand jury against the district attorney and he demanded to know what my purpose was in the building today and I had already asked him for the grand jury so he knew.
So I told him, well I have business here today and it's none of yours.
He said, well I'm the court security officer and the bailiff and court bailiff and I want to know what your business is.
I said, well if you're the court bailiff then right there at the courtroom just scoot on in there and be a good little bailiff.
Yeah, they start doing this little chicken dance where the one I call and I'm asking him to arrest his buddy and he's got my call on 9-1-1 and that's not going to go away.
He don't want to arrest his buddy and I keep insisting and with him I get real obnoxious.
And he starts scooting back and forth from one foot to another and I call that their little chicken dance.
When you become the sovereign and invoke the same law that they use against you, it changes everything.
So, I've been doing this quite a while and it took some time.
It took some learning of things you can do and things you can't do.
Stay away from the sheriff.
Stay away from the police department.
All that'll do is get you beat up.
Well, I was thrown out of the Sheriff's Department one day by the Chief Deputy when I was there to file criminal complaints.
And I stood in front of the place and looked around and thought, I bet if I try to leave this county, somebody's going to be waiting for me.
So I went to the county judge and asked him to call the Sheriff's Department and see if they had a warrant for me.
Asked him to call the Chief Deputy.
And the county judge wanted to know why I wanted him to do that.
I said, well, I got a bad feeling he's going to be sitting out there on the highway waiting for me.
Oh, he wouldn't do a thing like that.
I don't know, but if he did, it'd be bad news.
He called the Sheriff's Department and asked for Doug.
Well, Doug's not here.
He's out in his cruiser.
The judge looked at me and kind of gave me a halfway smile and said, well, have Doug call me.
Doug called him and he said, I have Randy Kelton in my office and he's concerned that someone may be out waiting on the highway for him to go home.
Where are you, Mr. Whitehead?
Oh, well, I'm just making some rounds in my cruiser.
Since when does the Chief Deputy make rounds?
Well, I had business to take care of.
Well, Mr. Whitehead, I hope your business is back at the Sheriff's Department.
Well, I went to Williamson County because everyone told me that Williamson County is the most corrupt in the nation.
Or in the state.
I do seminars all over the country, and everybody says, my county's the most corrupt in the state.
Except here.
Here, everybody says, Williamson County's the most corrupt.
And something I know about, the more corrupt they are, the more vulnerable they are.
Most policemen don't get into the police work to be jackbooted thugs.
But they get stuck in this corrupt system.
They know it's corrupt.
They don't like it.
But if they're going to keep their job, they're going to follow along.
And then somebody comes along and points their finger right at it.
Well, they knew they were corrupt all the time.
The more corrupt they are, the more concerned they are.
And the first thing they're going to do is creak open their little closet door and look at their darkest skeleton and figure out how I'm going to find it.
So that's why I went to Williamson County.
I filed a criminal charge with the district attorney against the sheriff's deputy.
A deputy had arrested a woman in Travis County sitting in a parking lot with her lights on.
He saw a headlight out.
He pulled into Travis County.
It was in front of a beer joint.
He did a sobriety test on her.
ran her license and found that ten years earlier she had three DUIs and it had been ten years, you know, when she was in her late teens and pretty wild, she got over that.
So he arrested her and took her back to Williamson County.
It had been almost a year, her trying to get it to trial.
So they told me about it and uh...
First thing I did was file criminal charges against the officer for false arrest.
We're going to get into how to do this when we get back and we'll talk about some other issues behind the scenes at InfoWars.com if you're listening there.
I'm Alex Jones.
Stay with me.
Randy, I want to get back to that story with Williamson County and then get into the solutions.
But right now, because I want to keep the show congruent for those that are listening on the main radio line, but other side issues or anything else you want to cover?
And I charge them with felony tampering with a government document for doing it.
Because when the magistrate does that little hearing that he does, they call it a magistration.
They made that up.
Magistration doesn't exist.
If you type it into Microsoft Word, it puts a little red line under it.
It doesn't recognize it.
There is such a thing they're supposed to do, and it's called an examining trial.
And there's a whole chapter in the Code of Criminal Procedure that defines what's done in an examining trial.
They do none of that.
There's another statute under chapter 17 under bail that tells the magistrate after an examination he's to seal all documents had in the hearing, cause his name to be written across the seal, forward it to the clerk of the court of jurisdiction.
They don't do that.
They give it to the prosecutor to keep the speedy trial clock from starting.
Five months later, after I filed a writ of habeas corpus in his behalf, I got a call from someone who said, are you, Randall Kelton at CSM, are you Danny Schill's attorney?
No, I'm not an attorney.
Did you file a writ of habeas corpus on Danny Shull's behalf?
Yes, I did.
Do you mind if I ask what your relationship with Mr. Shulls is?
Sure.
I don't have a relationship with Mr. Shulls.
Never met the man.
There's this long pause, and she said, uh, well, uh, do you mind if I ask what your business with Mr. Schultz is?
Yes, I do.
I have business with Mr. Schultz, and it's none of yours.
The next week, they took him into court, dismissed all the charges, put him on the street.
I was talking to Randy Kelton in the behind-the-scenes for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.
He was just telling me about one case in Texas where they pull a young guy over, claim he's drinking, and he was in jail five months without a charge, without a name, without a hearing.
And I hear about this all the time.
I see it in the news now.
Where they just grab you and throw you in jail, and you had to go file criminal charges, habeas corpus documents, all of this.
This isn't just Abu Ghraib people getting flown to Camp X-Ray.
I mean, U.S.
citizens now, it's not even a contempt charge.
They just say, we just put you in jail now.
I mean, that is the opposite of what our country is based on.
The document I filed, the writ of habeas corpus, stipulates how every step from arrest to trial as presently practiced in Texas is not only wrong, it is very specifically against particular law.
And while I don't blame the policeman, the remedy involves kicking him right square in his behind as hard as you can so he has plausible deniability to go to his boss and say, if you want to arrest this guy and take him to jail, you do it.
I'm not having him take my bass boat.
You accuse the individual of a crime.
Forget the guys at the top.
Take that personal individual, accuse him of committing a criminal act.
When he commits a criminal act, he loses his immunity.
They denied me permission to exercise a constitutional right.
I see that as official oppression, a class A misdemeanor in Texas.
I went down to the bailiff of the grand jury and I told the bailiff, instruct the foreman I have business with the grand jury.
Instead of instructing the foreman, she called the district attorney, who came down and insisted that this was the grand jury's last day, and their calendar's full, they just will not have time to hear your complaint.
But if you'll give it to me, I'll give it to the next grand jury.
And I told her, make sure you do, because if you don't, you'll start a fight with me and you that I don't want to have.
She did not give it to the grand jury.
So I came back to the grand jury, with and told the bailiff instruct the foreman I have business with the grand jury instead she called the district attorney and handed me the phone said this is the district attorney she wants to talk to you I said if you look at those complaints you'll find their complaints against the district attorney she's a criminal I don't talk to criminals and the bailiff took the phone back and uh... we've got this on on video
Uh, he said he can't talk to you because you're the criminal and he don't talk to criminals.
She came out anyway and stopped me from filing criminal complaints against herself with the grand jury.
But I know about lots of other people's cases where somebody has been arrested for no driver's license and you give them procedures, just basic stuff, and the court finally doesn't make a plea bargain and just dismisses it.
Yes, that's because the writ of habeas corpus It demonstrates all the acts that they commit that are criminal.
So I took Rita Habeas Corpus apart and broke it into a bunch of motions.
I maintain that when the officer arrests you, searches you, cuffs you, stuffs you, cranks the automobile, points it toward the jail, he has committed aggravated kidnapping.
There's no false imprisonment statute in Texas.
The statute is kidnapping.
When he arrested you, he could have arrested you legally.
But when he pointed toward the jail instead of some magistrate's office, he violated law relating to his office, he became a criminal treasurer.
I've seen him have some victories, get some people out of things they hadn't done.
When lawyers wanted $20,000, he was able, with basic procedures, to have them just drop the cases.
I mean, it's one big, giant, corrupt system.
And Randy, we were talking during the last break there for PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.
We were just now getting into the procedures.
The police officer in the old days took you before a judge first.
And it was always over rustling, or horse thieving, or rape, or something serious, but they still had to bring you before a judge, before the jail, where they could hold you maybe for a day before you went before a judge when the judge came in.
It was on the weekend or at night.
And now they'll just take you for weeks, months in jail without even charges.
That is kidnapping, that is official oppression, that is grade A tyranny, but all of this has just been standardized.
But here's another example.
Somebody steals your car, they won't come out and look into it.
If you want to go file a report, they won't even let you.
If you want to file charges on somebody who's knocked your teeth out, they'll just act like, well, come back later, or I can't do that, or go here.
They don't let you know that they have to file that, and then if you turn out to be a liar, you get arrested for filing false charges.
And so it's the same thing with grand juries.
Grand juries used to be creatures of the people.
They were open.
They were discussed.
Now they've become creatures of the prosecutors.
Everything has been domesticated.
So let's talk about that.
I mean, when You know, I've gone down many years ago, ten, twelve years ago, when I had stalkers and people breaking my car and doing stuff, being in my backyard, and I'd go to them and they'd say, look, you don't like us cops.
I'm not going to file a thing on him for you.
Just get out of my office.
And I was just like, whoa!
And that was down here in Austin.
And that's when I really started waking up.
I mean, I'd grown up in Dallas where our sheriff would jail for being a drug dealer, and I'd seen all kinds of crazy stuff and knew it was all a joke, but I mean, this really is, these are hardcore crooks.
I mean, you're saying your normal officer isn't like that on the ground.
I know they're just out writing tickets and raising revenue and helping people occasionally, but higher up, I mean, it does seem to get more rotten as you get higher up the fish.
You know, it rots from the head down, but I mean, Randy, that's a lot I've said, but comments on that.
And I'm not saying all police are lily white angels.
There are a number of police out there who got into police work for reasons that should have kept them out of police work.
But for the most part, they got into police work wanting to be a good guy.
They found themselves trapped in this situation, this system that they didn't create, they don't know how to fix it.
I've had four different officers come to me and ask if I could do something to get rid of an officer they had because he was causing them so much embarrassment because he didn't belong there.
Well, I mean, I want to get into your solutions here, and how you do it.
We've talked some about that on your website, but go back to Williamson County a few months ago, because you go to file this complaint on somebody's rights that are violated, and tell them what they did to you behind closed doors.
And over time, we gravitate away from... And now everything's plea bargain, and now they'll throw you in jail for five months before they even charge you, so they don't even have to make you plea bargain.
And not even any record at the court that you exist.
He can't file motions.
He can't do anything.
He's in a legal limbo.
And that's because the magistrate doesn't send the records to the clerk.
But back to the policeman.
When he arrests you, he's supposed to take you to that magistrate.
And, according to federal law, his only defense against an allegation of false imprisonment for failure to timely take before a magistrate is a showing of due diligence and effort to locate.
When he gets in that car, cranks that car, points it toward the jail as a matter of policy, that's aggravated kidnapping by definition.
He violated a law relating to his office.
His acts became false imprisonment, which is In Texas, it's called kidnapping, and he did it whilst displaying a deadly weapon that makes it aggravated kidnapping.
A lot of them seem to think that they'll go ahead of you, argue with them, and taser you, and then they bump their chest into you, or don't even do that now, and just charge you with assaulting them.
I went to the county attorney because they dropped the interfering with the public servant charge.
And I had went to the court clerk, and there's no record with the court clerk that I was ever arrested, so I asked the prosecuting attorney Who dropped these charges?
He said, well, I did.
Well, how did you manage to drop them?
There's no record in the court clerk they exist.
Well, I dropped them in my capacity as a prosecuting attorney.
I told him, well, that's all well and good, but I was hoping for something more specific, like a 32.02 Code of Criminal Procedure, which says a prosecuting attorney may not dismiss a prosecution except by submission of written motion to the court of jurisdiction laying down cause for said dismissal.
He said, well, a prosecution never started because I refused to take it.
I said, wait a minute.
I thought I spent 29 hours in your jail.
And as I read the case law, a prosecution commences when a person is arrested or a criminal complaint is presented to a magistrate, which had to be, for him to find probable cause.
So a prosecution commenced You dismissed it.
How did you even know it existed?
Because the magistrate was supposed to send the records to the court clerk.
How did you know?
The court clerk doesn't have them.
So whoever has them, has them in violation of 3710 Penal Code and they're committing a felony.
Have you got those records?
And he looked like a cat with a feather in his mouth.
And Debra was standing behind me.
Debra, that's my co-host, Debra Stevens.
She stepped up and said, Randy, aren't you talking about the records that were supposed to go to the Magistrate?
And I said, yes.
Well, look at that folder he's got in his hand there.
Isn't that those records?
And this prosecutor looked like he wanted a hole to crawl in.
And she said, are any of those records in there from the Magistrate?
Well, yes, one of them.
And Debra shut up, stepped back.
And for Debra to stop talking abruptly, I thought that was rather strange, and I looked back at her.
It wasn't until later I realized what she had done.
She got the prosecutor to cop to a felony.
And once she got it, she didn't pursue any more, so he wouldn't have a chance to talk his way out of it.
So I'll be filing felony tampering with a government document against the prosecutor for having my records.
But getting back to their psychology, I don't know how they have, like, in their minds, think we're like lumps of meat and aren't humans with lives and careers and ideas and hopes and dreams.
I mean, it was crazy when the New York cops took me behind there and said, we're going to say you hit one of us.
And they weren't messing with me.
And I said, there's a lot of cameras out there.
And they go, no, we're talking about in here.
And I just said, you know, do what you need to.
But I said, I'm not, I said, I'm a big fish and I'm going to sue you, you know, you can, you can beat the rap, but you're not going to beat the ride.
And they just said, all right, you know, tough guy.
They wouldn't put me in a cell with human feces everywhere when they had other cells that were clean.
But I mean, who wants that type of power?
I would be embarrassed.
I mean, I'm not like mean to my employees on purpose for a personal power trip, but I guess that's who, let's admit it, in some cases that's who wants to be a cop or a judge.
I told them before we told the jury panel that these guys are going to get up here and they're going to put an officer up here and he's going to say that he clocked me doing 80 miles an hour in a 65 mile an hour zone.
Oh, they found me guilty, and then I went to the district attorney and tried to file criminal charges against the judge and the district attorney's investigator, who wouldn't identify himself.
He threw me out of the building at gunpoint with two bailiffs and frankly I just haven't had time to go back and pursue them.
Well, there was that one, three class B misdemeanors, and what I did was accuse the policeman of arresting him for exercising a constitutional right.
When he told them he didn't want to talk to them anymore, they needed his attorney, rolled up his window, they arrested him for interfering with the public servant.
I call that punishing someone for exercising a constitutional right.
In Texas law, it would be Article 1, Paragraph 10.
Okay.
So, and the case law says, to punish someone for exercising a constitutional right is a due process violation of the most basic sort.
So I charge the officers with aggravated kidnapping.
False imprisonment, and then they took him to jail instead of a magistrate.
I walked down that Rid of Habeas Corpus and charged everyone with a criminal act for every act, everyone with the criminal act of every other actor, including the prosecuting attorney and the judge.
When the prosecutor got it, he looked at all these allegations and he said, I do not want to go here.
Because he did his homework, he went back and looked at the supporting law and found that it was right.
You were saying you really... In Wise County, it took some 15 years.
I never got, and this was my learning process, that's where I got my elbow broken, where the officer stove in three ribs.
I stayed after the sheriff and the district attorney, the district judge, just harassed them with criminal complaints and they would hide from the grand jury.
That's what taught me how to get around all these maneuvers they pulled.
Never got anyone arrested, never got anyone indicted, but they changed everything.
I reached in my pocket, I said, I'm sorry judge, I didn't have this turned on.
Pulled out a little digital recorder, clicked it on, stuck it in his face, and said, will you say that again?
And he looked at me, he was breathing hard, and I know what he was thinking.
That damn district attorney, he didn't tell me everything.
And the judge was right.
I was talking to the bailiff because the high sheriff of the county sent me to talk to the bailiff in order to file criminal charges against the district attorney.
The District Attorney told the judge I was creating a disturbance.
I filed making a terroristic threat against the District Judge with the Attorney General.
The only time the Attorney General is the prosecutor of original jurisdiction is in a matter of a complaint against a District Attorney under open records.
But how did it get so corrupt all over the country where none of them follow proper procedure, none of them follow the state and federal law, they just do whatever they want?
I have a document on my website I call the Frog Farm Conspiracy.
Uh, and the reason I call it that is Samuel Clements once said, you take a frog, throw him in a pot of hot water, he'd jump out.
Take that same frog, put him in a pot of cold water, gradually raise the heat.
Well, over time, through a series of seemingly minor adjustments toward administrative convenience and adjudicative expediency, we took one little step after another outside the legal limits, and then one day we look around and wonder how we got in this mess.
And it's bad, but on the other hand, because it's so bad, it gives us a lot more power in changing it.
They are so far away from rule of law, they have zero defense.
And all we have to do is keep hammering them.
Right now, I'm just one person.
And just one person.
I've got all of the judges of the Court of Criminal Appeals wondering if they're going to get indicted.
That's extremely powerful, even if I don't get them indicted.
Then we're going to get Senator Karen Johnson on for a 50-plus minute interview and take calls, listeners, on 9-11 and all these big developments that have happened there.
When we come back, I want you to answer this for me in the five minutes we've got left.
Here's an example of what we did.
You know, with the absent student assistance program, ASAP, in 98-99, if your child didn't go to school one morning with the flu, and you had the flu or forgot to call, the police would come and demand in, threaten parents, they would arrest you, but truancy was 14 absences unexcused in a semester.
So we went to the county commissioner's court and would read the law and say, and we found out that they would take three Uh, late.
You know, sixth graders being late to class three times and call that an absence?
And they would bring them into these little portable buildings and say, but it wasn't real court, we got video of it, they would just say, sign a document, we're signing them on to probation.
Via contract fraud.
And we cut back on some of that, now they're back with it, I mean, I can't fight everything.
But the point is, it's not even laws.
I mean, it's all fraud.
So I'm not talking about contract fraud with you.
You're talking about how to keep them accountable.
I mean, just for the average public to know the government is criminal, stop trusting them.
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When I was before the head district judge here in Travis County, and he suggested I file my complaints with the Sheriff's Department, I told him I did and they threw it in the trash, he said, well, I needed to appeal that to a higher court and petition for a writ of mandamus.
And I told him, well, I don't know, judge, you know, you go before a corrupt judge and he renders a corrupt decision?
So they tell you, oh, that's okay.
You can go before a whole panel of corrupt judges and they can screw your royal.
He said, well, Mr. Kelton, I don't think it's that bad.
Yeah, that's because you're not pro se.
I would much rather appeal to a grand jury.
He said, well, you can't appeal to a grand jury.
Sure I can.
I can appeal to them with allegations of shielding from prosecution against the officer and see if they can get him arrested.
Much better to take your complaint to a grand jury.
But I mean, how do they humanly, I guess it's all about revenue, a little kid who's an A student, falls asleep, 11 years old, and they arrest him and his life's basically criminal from now on.
The biggest hurdle I have to come over is the programming you had in school.
You go to school for twelve years and they tell you about all these great and wonderful rights that you have, and all these privileges that you have as a citizen, but don't even think of trying to express one of those while you're in this school!
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Because if you do, the whole weight of the world will fall right on your heads.