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Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
jason bermas
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
I am not Alex Jones, I am Jason Burmess.
I'll be subbing in today and tomorrow.
We're gonna be wide open on the phones all day long.
And I want to start it with a news item I didn't cover yesterday, because I just didn't really have time.
I mentioned it when Alex called in, but a man was arrested for turning without signaling.
And not only was he arrested for turning without signaling, basically, he refused an illegal search on his car.
There was no probable cause to have him get out of the car and have it searched again.
He just didn't signal.
I mean, how many times have you made a right or a left turn on a small road and not signaled?
It's pretty ridiculous.
However, that didn't stop the cop from Grabbing him out of the car, searching his car anyway, bring him down to the station, and arresting him.
So let's see if we can get this little YouTube clip to play.
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A fallen county driver did not, and that mistake landed him in jail.
An arrest for not using the turn signal is so rare that even the Melissa police chief has never heard of it happening.
But as Channel H Jonathan Betts explains, it's completely legal.
*throwing* Mark Robinson was driving through downtown Melissa last week when he was pulled over for failing to use his turn signal.
But instead of just getting a ticket, the officer took the 24-year-old to jail.
He was booked, strip-searched, and sat for three hours, he says, with criminals.
People talking about using drugs and shooting heroin.
They asked me what I was in there for, and I told them, well, a turn signal violation.
There aren't any warrants out for Robinson.
In fact, he says he's never even been in jail.
But he does admit to challenging the officer's questions during the stop.
It's just unacceptable to me to have my son thrown in jail for such a minor offense.
His father thinks the officer assumed he had drugs because of his age, which he didn't.
I think if they stopped me in the same circumstances, I would have never gone to jail or probably never even got a ticket.
In fact, News 8 contacted various cities in Collin County, many of which have not made a single arrest this year for turn signal violations.
Even the police chief and Melissa acknowledges he's never seen this happen in his own city.
In the six years that I've been the police chief, this is the first time.
But he stands behind his officer, saying state law gives him the power to arrest someone for many crimes, no matter how minor.
I can't discuss the specifics of the case.
The officer was within his right to arrest the person, and which he did.
Still, he tells News 8 this afternoon he will review department policy and may make changes.
For Mark Robinson, what he most wants is an apology.
He says for a trip he never should have been forced to make.
In Melissa, Jonathan Betts, Channel 8 News.
jason bermas
An apology?
An apology?
I think he deserves a little bit more than an apology.
Okay? He was taken to jail for a turn signal.
Now the guy, who was the police chief for six years, gets up there and goes, Whoa, yeah!
It's never happened before.
He's looking like, wow, yeah, it sounds pretty ridiculous, but of course, because it's that gang mentality, he's gonna say he's within his rights to do so.
We can arrest anybody for anything!
There's a multitude of crimes out there that we can just arrest people for.
Isn't that great?
You don't put on a turn signal, you're gonna end up in a cell.
It's- it's absolutely ridiculous.
It's beyond ludicrous.
I guess this guy should just count his lucky stars that he didn't get beaten over the head with a billy club like those Philly guys.
Oh, but they were on edge.
They're on edge.
There was a bank robbery.
They didn't know.
Well, when they pull these guys over, and I don't even want to play the audio of that because it's just, uh, the Associated Press spinning the story for the police officers when you see more than a dozen officers physically assault three people who pull over.
As far as I can tell on the video, they don't run.
Again, I only saw the clip where they actually pull over, but I didn't see some crazy police chase.
They grab him out.
It's boots to the side, you know, baton out, dogs out.
Three people.
I hope they sue.
But again, it doesn't even matter.
Like, these guys don't even go to jail, man.
You know, maybe they get suspended for a week without pay.
What could he do?
Nothing happens to these guys.
Alright, we're taking your calls.
It's the Alex Jones Show.
We'll be back after this.
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All right, folks, we are back.
jason bermas
It's The Alex Jones Show.
I'm sitting in.
I'm Jason Burmess.
My little website is www.loosechange911.com.
I do a little blog there, and of course you can get the film there, and I think you can even watch the film in its entirety.
For free there.
And that's what I need you guys to do, is go out, check out Loose Change.
I could really use somebody to write a Wikipedia page for the Final Cut.
But more importantly, find the link, email it to everybody, and get the word out about Loose Change Final Cut.
I also want to let you know that Alex Jones is going to be presenting his newest film, The 9-11 Chronicles Part 1 Truth Rising, at a couple of screenings.
A little pre-screenings, if you will.
Over at the Alamo Draft House on Saturday, May 17th and Sunday, May 18th at 4pm on Saturday and 7pm on Sunday.
This really is unlike any other Alex Jones film you've ever seen.
It's not voiced by Alex, it's shot cinema verite, it features interviews with Willie Nelson, Rosie O'Donnell, Jesse Ventura, George Carlin, Martin Sheen, confrontations with Bill Clinton, David Rockefeller, Arnold Schwarzenegger, And many, many more, including Gary Hart, Danny Bonaduce, John Gibson's in the film.
Just a slew of pop culture names, if you will, in both the media and TV and movies, as well as politics, you know?
A nice little blend for everybody, if you will.
And I really hope this movie gets people off their duffs.
You know, those who still don't feel like they can affect change, they don't feel like they can make a difference, this movie's gonna show you that you can.
It's not only going after the exploits of We Are Change and Mark Dice and others, but really to the smaller groups that do the highway blogging, that do the Walmart intercomming, that go out there and get the message of 9-11 truth out by any peaceful means necessary.
Now, we were just discussing the cops and how outrageous they are and how they throw you in jail now if you don't have a turn signal and Even if the police chief thinks it's absolutely ludicrous, he's gonna defend you and say we need to look into it more and say, oh, he's one of my good cops and he's well within the law to do that.
Well, it should be no surprise that Tuesday night they killed yet another guy with a taser.
Guy's fighting with his wife, what happens?
He gets tased, he goes unconscious, and that's it.
They can't revive him.
You come for a domestic dispute, you leave in a body bag.
Isn't that nice?
That's golden, if you will.
Before I get into the economy, I'm just gonna read part of this article about the Philly cops caught beating a motorist on video.
This one's from Kurt Nemo.
Yet another instance of cops acting like predatory pack animals.
It should be obvious by now the police are out of control.
A parasitical force unleashed on society at large.
Cops no longer help granny across the street or respond to a burglary.
Cops are like the Crips, Bloods, and Mera Salvatra.
Another violent street gang, but one armed and supported by the state.
A half dozen police officers kicked and beat three men pulled from a car during a traffic stop as a TV helicopter taped the confrontation, reports the Associated Press.
It's more than half a dozen.
It's at least a dozen.
And it's probably a little bit more.
It might even be a baker's dozen.
Might even be 18 guys.
I'm not sure, I need to...
They keep coming on the scene.
The video shot by WTXF TV shows three police cars stopping a car Monday, two days after a city officer was shot to death responding to a bank robbery.
You see how they try to incorporate both together?
Oh, well, we only beat these guys up because somebody got shot two days ago.
Sure, these aren't the same guys, and we really didn't have any reason to suspect that they were involved in the bank robbery, but they were a color we didn't like.
In other words, after a fellow gang member was shot and killed protecting the bank, the largest gang in Philadelphia wanted revenge and blood.
Of course, that's the real job of the cops.
Protect banks, not the public at large.
Considered the enemy.
The tape shows about a dozen officers gathering around the vehicle.
About a half dozen officers hold two of the men on the ground.
Both are kicked repeatedly, while one is seen being punched.
One also appears to be struck with a baton.
Not appears to be struck with a baton.
The dude gets the baton out and starts wailing on him.
Doesn't appear that way.
Okay? It happened.
Appears to be struck with a baton.
The guy's swinging the baton like it's a Louisville Slugger.
Are you kidding me?
On the surface, it certainly does not look good in terms of the amount of force that was used, Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey said.
But we don't want to rush to judgment.
Yeah, let's not rush to judgment after we watch the video of these guys getting beat to a bloody pulp by officers who are soccer-kicking them and wielding batons.
And they have the dogs out, too.
Yeah, let's not rush to judgment.
Let's not believe our own eyes.
No, of course not.
Even though the video plainly shows there was absolutely no reason for members of the police Uh, gang to savagely beat, uh, the three hapless people pictured.
Yeah, no reason at all.
The officers were responding to a report of a shooting nearby, police said.
It was not immediately clear what preceded the confrontation.
So again, they used two separate excuses.
One, the bank robbery where somebody was killed two days ago.
And now it's not that.
Oh, they're responding to another shooting.
See, if they were really responding to a shooting and these guys, they thought these guys had guns, there's no way it would have went down the way it did.
Cops don't just bum-rush a car with guns, folks.
They don't want to get shot in the face.
What they do is they surround the car, they pull their guns, and then they get everybody out of the vehicle slowly.
That's not what happened here.
They stopped their cars, they got out, they covered them, and then they rushed the car.
It was never a question that these guys were gonna give up.
They came out with their hands up on their bellies, man.
Oh, man, I really hope their lawyer is good times, because they need a good lawyer.
It does not matter what preceded the confrontation, as it is obvious the motorists were not a threat.
Once upon a time, cops handcuffed and arrested people accused of crimes.
Now they are beaten to a pulp.
We don't take into consideration the emotions of the police officers when it comes to discharge of their duties.
Your emotional state being tired doesn't justify what's on the video, said D. Scott Perrine, an attorney who represents the three men seen in the video.
He said one of the clients suffered a wealth on his head the size of a baseball, and one of his legs was seriously injured.
He didn't know the extent of any of the injuries of the other two men.
Of course, man.
Dude, we have video now of a police officer dumping a person who's crippled out of their wheelchair.
When the guy's like, look, I can't stand up, he's like, you're gonna stand up.
His legs are like crimped over.
He tosses him on the ground.
I mean, it would be obvious to any thinking human being.
At any level of age that this man cannot walk and cannot get up out of his wheelchair.
His legs are bow-legged!
They're skinny!
They don't look like they've moved in decades!
And what's this guy do?
He just tosses them?
A little tossy?
I think that that guy actually got in trouble.
Well, it's about time.
I mean, God!
These guys really...
They really need to be gone after.
We have to make a point of this.
You need to send this video out to all your friends and family.
Be like, look at what these jackboot cops are doing.
You know, if that wasn't bad enough, I had Bob Chapman on yesterday, and we talked economy.
Well, here's a little economic news that no one seems to be talking about, but it's brand new.
CNN is now reporting that steel is going to replace copper in pennies.
Now, you know, like I said before, you know, I've said this actually on my other radio show, it now takes a penny and a half to actually create a penny.
So you're paying 50% more to make this penny now.
It's pretty ridiculous, right?
Well, they're also going to start taking it out of nickels, I think, too.
I think that they're actually going to put steel in nickels.
Let's read it.
Further evidence that times are tough.
It now costs more than a penny to make a penny.
This is news six months ago.
And the cost of a nickel is more than seven and a half cents.
Surging prices of copper, zinc, and nickel Have some in Congress trying to bring back the steel-made pennies of World War II, and maybe using steel for nickels as well!
Copper and nickel prices have tripled since 2003, and the price of zinc has quadrupled, said Representative Luis Gutierrez, a Democrat from Illinois.
His subcommittee oversees the U.S. Mint.
Isn't that lovely?
Keeping the coin content means contributing to our national debt, By almost as much as the coin is worth, Gutierrez says, well, I can't really argue with him there.
They've downed the dollar so much that, yeah, of course it costs seven and a half cents to make a nickel.
This is also more evidence that, you know, precious metals are actually worth something.
You know, if a copper penny is worth fifty percent more than one of these steel pennies, and really the penny's worth less than a penny, folks, I mean, let's be honest, this money's not backed up by anything.
The Federal Reserve is a gangster organization.
That has no oversight whatsoever, that prints as much money as it wants, and gives it to the bank at interest.
That's why the banks are starting to cap how much you can take out.
It's a big, uh, no-no.
It's a big red light going off.
But, the fact they're actually talking about steel to replace copper and pennies and nickels...
Watch out.
Watch out big time.
I guess there isn't a better time to get into gold and silver.
It's about that time, folks.
I mean, are dollars worth nothing?
They're going to replace what our coins are made with, with steel, because it's cheaper.
I mean, what's next?
Well, I'll tell you what's next.
It's probably a unified currency in the next five to ten years, or an attempt at one, between us, Mexico, and Canada.
I had a caller call in yesterday and ask, you know, what's all this about?
Why is it that, you know, we have this North American Union Agreement?
Why do we have this Central American Free Trade Agreement?
What's this all about?
And why is our dollar going down?
What are they trying to do?
And I told them, I'm like, look, our dollar used to be worth way more than the euro.
It was like a buck to 75 cents.
This is pre 9-11.
Now it's worked its way to a buck to a buck 41. So we're almost 50% under the euro.
And then you look at Canada.
Well, our dollar used to be worth to there like 80 cents, maybe 85, sometimes 90, but we were still worth more.
Now the Canadian dollar is worth a little more than ours.
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It's like a dollar five to our dollar.
jason bermas
How is it that Canada's currency is worth more than ours?
Think about it.
What do they export?
Fish and wood?
I mean, we're the greatest military industrial complex nation in the world.
We're supposed to have the best economy in the world.
And somehow, Canada's money is worth more?
Seriously, they don't even have a real military!
Wake up!
So I said, hey, you know, that's part of the plan.
That's why you see members of Canadian Parliament.
Actually going up and saying, hey, let's put the dollar on parity with our loonie.
That's their dollar coin.
And then we'll do that with Mexico, and we'll have a new currency.
We're taking calls over at the Alex Jones Show all day long.
I'm Jason Bermas.
PrisonPlanet.com is the website.
The Alamo Draft House is where you can see the 9-11 Chronicles on May 17th and 18th.
Hope to see you there.
We'll be back after this.
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In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.
unidentified
It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
Could their objective be world domination?
alex jones
For thousands of years, their dark order grew.
Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.
For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.
You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.
unidentified
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And I just want to let you know that Alex Jones presents the latest weapon in the InfoWarrior arsenal, the 9-11 Chronicles Part 1 Truth Rising.
This film follows the growing momentum of the 9-11 truth movement as people throughout the world take action against their globalist masters.
Shot unlike anything you have ever experienced from Alex Jones, cinema verite style, this masterpiece not only exposes the mistreatment of our 9-11 heroes, But also shows how a growing number of people around the world are questioning the official version of events that day.
Featuring interviews with Willie Nelson, Rosie O'Donnell, Jesse Ventura, George Carlin, Martin Sheen, as well as confrontations with many political figures, including Bill Clinton, David Rockefeller, and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
And that's just the short list, folks.
It's a huge list.
And we hope to see you there on Saturday and Sunday over at the Alamo Draft House.
Saturday screening, May 17th, is going to be at 4 p.m.
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Get tickets while you can.
Alex is going to be there, I believe, as the show is part of the Celebrity Guest Signature Series.
Ah, how lovely.
All right, I said I would take your calls today, and let's start doing it.
Let's go to our first caller of the day.
Yeah. Hi.
unidentified
Thank you for taking my call.
I was listening to your show when it was on weekdays.
I guess you're on Sunday now, right?
jason bermas
Yeah, yeah, I am on Sunday.
That's right.
I do a little radio show on GCN myself, Sunday from 6 to 8 Central.
unidentified
Well, I'd like to see this video, but I'm up here.
I'm an American.
I've called you before on your show, locked up here at an immigration detention center for about a year now because I was arrested by the Secret Service in the U.S. for about comments, satirical writings, and drawings related to the Bush family.
My case is on the internet now.
I have a website www.freecarl.com.
It talks about my case if anyone's interested or donating to help my legal fund.
I'm kind of in a unique situation because I have a lot of people coming from other countries who claim refugee or asylum in Canada.
I've made quite a few conversations with people about 9-11 and it seems people seem to be somewhat receptive here, you know, and I've been using my situation also to talk to my lawyer here in Canada, my immigration lawyer, about 9-11 truth and try to get the word out, you know, even though I'm detained and I'm trying to do what I can to educate...
jason bermas
Now you're detained still in Canada right now?
That's where you are right now?
unidentified
Yes. Okay.
And my website has, it's being worked on, but it's forwarded to the other site that has some of my court documents, my lawyer's arguments, and other material.
If you look at www.freecarl.com.
F-R-E-E-C-A-R-L.com.
jason bermas
Yep. All right, folks.
Well, you can check that out, and that's freecarl.com.
All right, let's go take another call.
Let's take Randy in Michigan.
Randy, are you there?
unidentified
How's it going?
jason bermas
Good, man.
How you doing?
unidentified
I'm not too bad.
I was just calling in response to the thing you said about the police harassment.
I actually was harassed.
It would be yesterday morning from the Warren, Michigan police.
My girlfriend and I were coming back from a show.
They pulled us over.
The police officer approaches each side of the vehicle, tells her to get out of the car.
Like, you know, he says it.
He shouts it.
And I'm like freaking out, you know, and well anyways, it wasn't that big of a deal.
I guess my license plate, it was hard for them to read my license plate because I drive a rusty truck and the tail hitch was blocking a number on the plate.
Well, he proceeded, he put me against the truck, you know, he wasn't pushing me, but he searched me, frisked me.
They told my girlfriend to get in the cop car and she's crying because she thinks she's going to get arrested.
He goes, I'm not going to arrest you.
I'm not going to do it.
He's like, I don't got the cuffs out.
Just chill out.
He's like yelling at her.
And anyways, he like tells her, you know, you've been drinking and he flashes the flashlight in her eyes.
And, you know, for one thing, she's the passenger.
jason bermas
Yeah, it doesn't matter if she's been drinking or not.
unidentified
Right, and like, well, and she's like, I have a lazy eye too, which she does, she's legally blind in one eye, and he goes, that doesn't matter.
And anyways, they couldn't find anything on me.
jason bermas
I knew I have a fourth amendment right, and all that, and I said, you know, that whatever, I didn't even stop him from searching my truck, because he'd probably, you know, arrest me for- No, you'd probably go to jail downtown, right away, as soon as you start challenging the officers.
That's why it's so important, man, to have a camera in your car.
I know Alex has posted a couple now, where the guy has a hidden camera in his dashboard, He literally tells the guy like five times, no, you can't search my car.
There is no probable cause.
They just rip him out, cuff him, bring him to jail, and search his car anyway.
But at least he has that ammunition afterwards and say, look, I didn't ever give him permission to get in my car.
It's my Fourth Amendment right.
He did it anyway.
It was an illegal search and seizure.
And he brought me to jail.
Hang on, Randy.
We're going to come back to you on the other side.
This is The Alex Jones Show.
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We are back live.
And I want to go back to Randy in Michigan.
You were telling us that you were pulled over.
A cop illegally searches your car.
You just let him because you know you don't have anything.
What happens next, Randy?
unidentified
Well, you know, he searches for 10 minutes after he told me to stand in front of his car.
And the other officer was in there proceeding to harass her, you know, asking her questions.
Well, who's this guy you're with?
And she's like, it's my boyfriend.
What's his name?
She's like, well, Randy.
And he's like, well, how long you been dating him?
I mean, he's just an animal.
I mean, he's not touching her or anything or hitting her, but he's just aggressive.
jason bermas
Well, you're guilty until proven innocent, man.
They're trying to get you to mess your stories up.
Oh, who is this guy, really?
Like there's some big conspiracy in your rusted-out truck, right?
unidentified
Right, and I wanted to fight it, and I talked to my officer friend who works for the Lansing Police, And anyways, he told me, he goes, man, it's not even worth it.
He goes, they're gonna videotape you as you sit in a room, and if you, uh, have one, like, flaw to your story, and if they videotape it, you're gonna get prosecuted.
And I'm like, well, I better not fight it then.
jason bermas
Well, that's what they want you to do, man.
I'd encourage you to fight it every time.
You know, I know a lot of cops that are gonna tell me the same thing.
Um, I'm really good friends with the cops in my town in New York.
And, uh, you know, there's a couple of them I have beers with, but the other ones I just joke around with.
And it just sucks that it's that corrupt that they're even gonna tell you, look, Yo, hello?
Hey, how you doing, man?
unidentified
Yo, Jason, let me just say that you do an incredible job on the show.
jason bermas
Thanks, man.
I appreciate it.
unidentified
I listen to Alex all the time, and listening to you, it's like a whole different show.
It's awesome.
I wanted to see if you guys know anything about the U.S. soldier that was killed in a military training exercise here in Alberta, Canada.
jason bermas
No, but tell me about it.
unidentified
Just, I think it was three days ago, they're holding, I think the The name of the operation is called Maple Guardian or Guardian Maple.
Okay. Something like that and it's a collaboration between American and Canadian forces.
Okay. And what they've done is they've rebuilt, they've recreated an Afghanistan village in southern Alberta and they're training the troops there and I guess they say there's no live ammunition, no live effects for anybody to get killed but One of your American soldiers was actually killed like three days ago.
jason bermas
So what are they doing?
They set up a village and then what are they doing?
They're doing basically basic occupation?
They're going in and doing sweeps?
unidentified
Yeah, I think it's like basic training occupation, how to storm a village with helicopter support.
And I mean, you guys have, I think, 10 or 20 helicopters up here and you guys are providing support for ground troops doing these exercises.
jason bermas
Well, here's the thing, man.
They're saying that it's set up like an Afghanistan village.
My guess is it's probably not.
It's probably set up like a western village, like a Canadian or an American village, for an actual domestic takeover.
I mean, let's be real.
unidentified
Well, I think, didn't they just practice and complete the complete domestic takeover in a polygamous village in Texas?
jason bermas
Yeah, well, I had a woman on yesterday who was part of not that polygamous village, but another, and we were discussing that situation in Texas.
And I'd almost say it's a little bit different because they didn't even use color of law.
In other words, they didn't get a warrant.
They didn't call anybody.
They just went in.
unidentified
Which is more frightening.
jason bermas
Yeah, which is absolutely more frightening.
And it does seem kind of military style since there is no video of the actual, you know, the actual, you know, assault on these people.
unidentified
No, but I have seen videos of like tanks with the word sheriff written on them.
jason bermas
Oh, that's lovely.
Well, again, dude, I mean, it's not there for an invasion in Afghanistan.
If they want to do a mock invasion of Afghanistan, they want to do training, they're going to, A, do it on a military base, or, B, they're going to do it overseas somewhere in Pakistan with our buddies, you know, where they're already stationed.
unidentified
You would think so, eh?
Like, do it with somewhere that's actually going to help you, but here they're training Canadian and American forces to, like, I don't know, on their own soil.
jason bermas
Sean, I'm with you 100%.
I thank you for the info.
We're going to jump to the next caller.
Let's go to John in Illinois.
Johnny, are you with me?
unidentified
I am, Jason.
I saw the premiere in New York, Loose Change Final Cut.
You guys did a great job.
It is a different film, everybody out there listening.
So if you think it ain't, go on and get yourself a copy.
jason bermas
Well, thank you, man.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, a lot of people think that we, you know, just added 20 minutes to the second edition or something like that, but really it is a completely new film.
It really eviscerates the official version of events, goes after the 9-11 Commission especially.
And, uh, you know, I haven't seen the debunkers come out and try to attack this one as much as the, uh, second edition at all.
unidentified
Yep. It's, uh, very hard to, uh, on another matter, um, grassroots activism, everybody within the reach of this voice, please get out there and get active.
We've done this year around Chicago.
We started a couple of, uh, groups, my own group, DuPage, 911truth.org.
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And it's good you're bringing out Richard Gage.
I mean, he gives an excellent presentation.
In fact, he gave one in New York, where he really breaks down how Building 7 was brought down in the controlled demolition.
One of my favorite That's for sure.
unidentified
I saw Richard Gage there at the theater.
I can't remember which night that was.
He was engaged in conversation with you.
I don't think he has his own practice.
I think he's working for another firm, and for him to go out on a limb like this is really risking all.
jason bermas
Oh, he has risked it all, and yeah, you are correct.
He doesn't have his own firm.
I'm pretty sure he does freelancing, and he's about all the time, and for him to dedicate so much time to 9-11 Truth shows, you know, what a good person he is, and he's really, he's Put out all the stops, man.
He's actually in Alex Jones's new film, The 9-11 Chronicles.
He's got a little part in there where he, you know, basically goes over Building 7 and how it's absolutely a controlled demolition.
But you and I both know that, John.
I mean, the evidence is so clear that that building was brought down in a controlled manner and covered up.
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All right.
Thank you so much for the call, John.
Let's move on to Larry in Indiana.
Larry, are you with us?
unidentified
Hello, Jason.
jason bermas
How you doing, man?
unidentified
Very good.
I passed out some of your loose change, too, here, as well as 9-11 ripple effect and others.
We even tried to have a public showing here in Indiana.
Mixed results.
Most people don't want to hear it, but on a personal level, you can give those out.
Wanted to point something out for this real important guys on Friday, in the third hour, Alex Jones had Michael Hoffman on.
If you have the access to the archives, I cannot highly recommend enough that you hear this show.
Michael went into the involvement of Israel in the 9-11 and the U.S. government affairs.
He went into the difference between the Torah and the Talmud.
That is the key, folks.
I don't know if you know it or not, Jason, but the Talmud is a satanic doctrine.
T-A-L-M-U-D.
You know, you've got real pious Hebrew Torah-worshipping Jews, and then you've got these bloodthirsty Zionists that work in our government and run Israel.
They're the ones that are trying to get us into a war with Iran.
They're the ones that are taking the guns from the veterans in this country.
We're talking Schumer, Feinstein, Boxer, etc.
They're the ones that are getting our troops to practice putting us in camps.
And to kill us, Jason.
jason bermas
Well, I've read Codex Magica.
I've been interested in Tex-Mar stuff for a number of years.
I'm not 100% into everything, but I go and check everything out.
Actually, in my new movie, Fabled Enemies, I am going to go into Israel's role in 9-11.
I know it hasn't been in any of the other documentaries.
And I'm really going to go into not only the dancing Israelis who were detained, or the Israelis that were detained at the George Washington Bridge, with the explosives, but also into the Fox News report of how it all works.
How does an international spy ring like this work?
Well, they use companies like Amdocs and Converse, which have close military-industrial complex ties to the state of Israel, in order to compromise all of these different intelligence organizations.
That, coupled with the fact that they have dual citizens located in almost every area of our government.
People like Michael Chertoff, who at the time of 9-11, Well, again,
you know, the ties to Israel are definitely there.
And I'm going to be going over them in the new movie.
I hope people check it out.
Larry, I thank you for the call.
Yep. Let's move on to Justin in New Jersey.
Justin, are you with us?
unidentified
Hey, what's going on?
How you doing?
jason bermas
Good, man.
How you doing?
unidentified
I'm doing all right.
I've just got a couple things to comment on.
First of all, you're talking about this police state and all this martial law stuff.
I actually did a thesis paper on the REC-84 for my project at Rutgers University.
Here in New Jersey, and I put out a series of posters basically talking about REC-84 and the different scenarios that will go down, the different executive orders.
So I got the website up.
It's REC-84.info.
I urge you all to check it out.
There's copies of it for people to print out.
jason bermas
Why don't you tell people what REC-84 is?
You and I both know it, but some of our listeners probably don't.
unidentified
Uh, REC 84 was basically the readiness exercises, um, put forth by, I guess you want to call it the neocons, 1984, um, basically the Bush administration now, and it basically allows for martial law to be enacted within the United States.
jason bermas
So, uh, I mean- It's kind of a continuity of government type thing where they're gonna route us up and pass into FEMA camps.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
It is continuity of government.
I mean, they've had these things, uh, actually since 1962.
Mm-hmm.
jason bermas
So, you know, they've been around for a while, so I just want to kind of Well, they've absolutely progressed, too, and one of my big points, Justin, that makes me feel really uncomfortable is that in the last few years, they commissioned Halliburton to build these new FEMA camps.
Now, Halliburton has since moved their base of operations from the United States to Dubai, okay?
So let's say martial law does come, and they start rounding people up, and people get wind of it, and they're like, screw this, I'm not going to any Halliburton FEMA camp, I'm not going.
Well, it's going to be awfully hard To go challenge Halliburton when Halliburton isn't in the United States, it's in Dubai.
Okay? And what's even scarier is that Halliburton, if they ever feel threatened, will just commission more CACI forces or Blackwater forces to be their military.
And they'll really have an endless supply of mercenaries to round us up and put us into these camps.
And that's what really scares me about these continuity of government programs.
It completely takes out Congress.
It takes out the will of the people.
And it puts power into the hands of a few dictators.
And folks, that's what happened on 9-11.
The Continuity of Government Plan went into effect.
We still don't know if it ever went out of effect.
unidentified
This is true.
It's scary, man.
You know, you try and talk to people about this stuff.
Like, for instance, I'm at an English class over there, and for my thesis paper I was trying to write about, you know, 9-11 being an inside job and whatnot, and I was basically told, you know, you can't write it, you can't prove it.
It's unprovable.
You can't write that paper.
jason bermas
And it is provable.
That's the crazy thing is that you can put out so much evidence that is obviously not what they told us and they still won't hear it, man.
It's the thought police.
It's 1984 all over again.
It's really a part of Brave New World because everybody's so drugged up.
unidentified
It's disgusting.
I mean, you know, the universities, for instance, they got the mental health facilities over there.
You go in there and all you see is posters for Prozac, frickin' um, all these drugs, it's just ridiculous.
jason bermas
You know, the uptake inhibitor, you know.
unidentified
You know, they really kill your brain.
I got so many friends on that stuff, and I urge them all to get off of it.
If anybody's on those medications, I urge everybody just, you know, drop it now.
It'll get you in the ear really well.
jason bermas
I'm with you, Justin.
Thank you so much for the call.
Let's move on to the next caller.
Let's go to Peter in Alabama.
Peter, are you with me?
unidentified
Oh, hey, how you doing?
jason bermas
Good, man.
How you doing?
unidentified
Um, not bad.
It's good to talk to you.
I just want to say to everybody that the Fed has pushed back the Real ID Act date to December 31st, 2009.
No longer this month of 2008.
jason bermas
Well, I feel like they're going to keep pushing it back as more and more people like yourself keep challenging it and making other people aware about it.
unidentified
Alright, well that's good.
Hopefully it'll never come.
jason bermas
Well, yeah, I mean this is something that people individually have to fight back on a state level.
I mean, that's the key, is that, you know, we're not going to be able to do this nationally.
But if we can get groups together in the state, and it's not that hard to explain to people that this is your papers, please.
In fact, I would say a good tool is, I don't know if you've seen these yet, but there's a couple of MTV ads out there, which really basically make the point the Holocaust happened to people like us.
And one of them takes place in the subway, and basically these guys are all on a subway train, all of a sudden, it's men in black uniforms, guns, everybody's separated, they break up a family, they round them up.
You know your papers, please and then it says the Holocaust happened to people like us then another one is Yeah, it's crazy and then they sweep a house, you know normal average everyday American family.
They sweep a house Well, they're not sweeping my house.
unidentified
I got plenty of 7-6-2 with their names on it.
They tried to do that.
jason bermas
Unlawfully. Well, that's why we need guns.
I mean, honestly, the Second Amendment, like Jesse Wintoura, is not there so we can go hunting deer, folks.
It's to protect us from a tyrannical government, and this government is out of control.
And, I mean, I live in New York, man.
It's so hard to have a firearm outside of a.22 or a shotgun or a rifle, you know, in your home.
It's so tough to get a carry permit for a pistol.
I mean, you literally have to be either a cop Or an ex-military guy or have like a long, long, long line of security personnel or cops recommending you.
It's tough, man.
It's not like that everywhere in America, but it's like that in places like New York where the population's heavy.
I mean, there's 8 million people in Manhattan alone.
I don't know, it's disturbing to me.
Alright, Peter, I thank you for the call.
Let's jump to Stephen in Texas.
Stephen, are you there?
unidentified
Yeah, good morning, Jason.
How you doing, Matt?
Good afternoon, where you are.
Yeah, I have several things I wanted to share.
I've got a good friend of mine who's a student in a Bible college here in East Texas, north of me, and this guy has experienced in the last year a plethora of the issues that Alex has been talking about in his show.
Probably a year or so ago, more than that, I actually had this friend of mine watch with me Terror Storm, and he was just, his mouth was on the ground.
So he's really gotten on board with this whole thing of making people aware of what's going on.
He's very vocal, he's very astute, very studied up in what he checks out, and he's very authoritative when he speaks, just like Alex.
Well, anyway, here's what he's had happen since he's taken this stand.
First of all, he mentioned a college professor, and this is a little Bible college in East Texas.
This guy Bobbitt that Alex has spoken of is going around saying we need to tear down the Constitution, get rid of our nation state.
He actually was invited by a professor to speak at the college there.
Oh, lovely.
Because the professor wanted to get an opposing view of, you know, what is right as far as our constitutional rights.
But when Mr. Bobbitt came out with basically getting rid of the United States as a nation, this guy got really upset at him.
The professor invited him and was really angry and rebuked him.
Because he said, you're a traitor and you ought to be tried for treason.
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All right, Steven, stay right there.
I want to get into more of this on the other side.
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Alright, let's go back to Stephen.
We're discussing this Bobbitt character and how he's prancing around the United States talking about how we need to end the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
So, obviously the professor was pretty opposed to this after he heard him speak.
unidentified
We told him you're not welcome here ever again.
You know, told him he should be tried for treason.
So, you know, and the thing is, see, my friend, he's been showing his fellow students these videos like Endgame and Terror Storm and Loose Change.
Because he's trying to do what we're all trying to do, which is wake people up and make them aware so we can stand up to this monster.
And here's another thing.
Here's a friend in the college whose pastor was approached by a female representative and told to preach from Romans 13. This pastor refused.
jason bermas
Oh, that's weird, because apparently that doesn't exist, even though Alex had some of the preachers come on.
Talk about how they had been approached to be recruited for this.
One of them, you know, got paperwork, sent it down to the InfoWars office.
We printed it over at InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
And it's obvious that FEMA's there to try to cull the Christian masses into their camps.
Having the preachers sell out their quote-unquote flock to death.
unidentified
It's pretty scary, man.
jason bermas
I mean, that's what it is.
They're going to enslave these people.
Through someone who is their authoritative role model.
See, that's why it's so hard for me to get down with the Christian religion.
It's not that I don't like, you know, the philosophies and morality of Christianity.
I think they're great.
I think the life lessons are great.
But so many people who follow this religion just blindly follow whatever their preacher says.
They believe that uh...
george w bush is of the lord and that he worships jesus christ and that all these christian conservatives on the right really believe uh...
you know in christianity and they don't these are guys that are are looking for uh...
you know gay bathroom sex in an airport these are guys that had up the government cps department and then get caught uh...
you know i am in sixteen-year-old boy pages You know, that's what they're into.
They're into going to the Bohemian Grove.
Stephen, I thank you for the call, man.
It just makes me sick.
You know, there's nothing Christian about the majority of these guys.
And yet, Christians are just going to follow whatever their pastors say, whatever these guys say outwardly.
Oh, I talk to God.
You know, God made me president.
God made me president.
All right, let's Let's move on to some more phone calls.
Let's go to Craig in D.C. All right, wait, I guess we'll take Craig in D.C. after the break.
I forget that we're about to be back at the top of the hour.
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Stick around.
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jason bermas
All right, folks, we are back for the second hour of this global transmission against tyranny, against all enemies, foreign and domestic, especially when those domestic enemies are prancing around universities talking about the end of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and they're going to recruit your preachers in order to call the masses into FEMA camps built by Halliburton.
That's where we're at.
Pretty scary stuff, but reality.
I mean everything I just said there is really going on.
FEMA is recruiting pastors and preachers to preach to you Romans where you give in to the government.
The government is God.
Isn't that nice?
The government's not God, folks.
Governments throughout history are not there for the people, okay?
They're manipulated.
They are They're there to eviscerate our rights.
They're there to dominate us.
That's why dictatorships pop up all throughout the world.
And, you know, constitutional republics and democracies are not the norm.
You need to get it through your head.
We're lucky.
We're real lucky to be where we are.
We're in a position right now where we can still fight a lot of this.
But people's heads are so much in the sand by their infotainment, you know, which is really Really our own faults for falling for it.
You know these 24-hour news networks even even CNN and you know Fox News all that other stuff half of its Britney Spears like I care or Anna Nicole Smith like I really do like that Jesse Ventura went out there and said you know and Nicole Smith was nothing but a model and They covered her death for two months on every 24-hour news network And there were entire shows like Larry King Live dedicated to it.
And let's not forget about her death scandal right before that, the baby scandal.
Who cares?
How does her having a baby with six other dudes affect my life at all?
It doesn't.
The only way it affects my life is it dumbs my neighbors down enough to where they don't even care that 9-11 is a false flag attack that's taken away all our rights and freedoms and is killing American soldiers.
Just day after day, overseas in Afghanistan and Iraq.
And let's not mention all the brown people we've killed, because obviously they're brown and they're not human.
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I've only heard that 300 dozen times.
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Let's go to Craig in D.C.
Craig, are you there?
Hey Jason, what's up man?
unidentified
Hey, you know what?
I'm real good.
It's a real pleasure to talk to you.
I've seen your loose change films, and those are something else, man.
jason bermas
Well, thank you, man.
unidentified
I, uh, you know, I don't want to sound stupid and asking this question, but was the purpose of each successive one, it's not to usurp the previous one, it's to continue to build the narrative, I assume, right?
jason bermas
Oh, absolutely, and the way I looked at it is this, all right?
For instance, you know, Dylan did the first edition all on his own.
It was a 60-minute documentary.
It opened up a lot of eyes.
Okay, and when I saw that, I saw the potential for this thing to be the one that broke into the mainstream.
So, I met Dylan and Corey prior to the second edition.
We took the best 30 minutes from the second edition, and we made this 90-minute narrative.
Now, this one blew up out of the sky.
I mean, it was featured on every news channel, brought us around the country, caught a lot of eyes, had O'Reilly bashing us, got us into this next project.
And what we tried to do with the final cut that we didn't do so much in the second edition, Was to try to stay away from what we thought happened and really just show, hey, here's the official version of events right here and here's the evidence against it.
For instance, one of my favorite sections and that is the war game section because we started off with Condoleezza Rice and George W. Bush saying, oh, we never knew that they could use planes as weapons.
No one ever thought that.
Now, anybody with half a brain knows about Bojinka.
They know that we were the ones running drills, the only country running drills, of ramming planes into the World Trade Center prior to it happening.
And then we show the news clip, you know?
We show Peter Jennings.
And then there's no answers, man.
That's the big problem.
There's no answers after we show that news clip.
It just shows you, wow, they lied again and no one did anything.
In fact, he testified, not under oath, with Dick Cheney.
Stay there, Craig, I want to get some more points from you.
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I am not Alex Jones.
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Alex will be back.
I think he's doing the Sunday show.
He might not be, but he'll be back on Monday, for sure.
And I was just discussing, you know, the Loose Change movies with Craig and DC.
And Craig, I'm actually doing another movie right now, which is also a 9-11 film, which is going to focus not only on You know, the foreign government involvement in 9-11 really gonna focus in on, you know, not only the Pakistani involvement, but the Israeli involvement, the Saudi Arabian involvement, and the congressional cover-up, but it's also gonna focus on the whistleblowers.
You know, people like J. Michael Springman's testimony have never really been heard, even though Robert Wright and Larry Klayman get a little cameo in the introduction of Loose Change Final Cut, they don't really get to be brought into depth.
Sabel Edmond's story has never really been in a movie to my satisfaction, especially now that she's come out in that Times Online piece to admit that Mahmoud Ahmed of the ISI was not only involved in this wiring of Muhammad Ata's $100,000,
but also involved in this international spy ring that was trading nuclear secrets with Israel, the Turks, and Pakistan with Supposedly household names within the White House.
So, uh, you know, I think she named Mark Grossman, but the Times Online didn't have the nuts to publish Mark Grossman's name of the State Department.
It was published on the Brad blog.
So yeah, man, I mean, I'm just trying to expand my audience.
I'm trying to bring in people through different routes.
You know, if Loose Change 2nd Edition was too hardcore or too youthful for some, maybe Loose Change Final Cut brings it back a little bit, has a little bit more of a broader soundtrack.
Maybe that can bring some people in.
this movie, Craig.
unidentified
When's that one set for release?
jason bermas
Well, I am working on it as we speak.
I mean, last night literally is the first office before 11 p.m.
I've been pulling 14, 15-hour days out here while I'm in Texas trying to put this out.
That it will be edited all the way through on June 1st, and we're shooting for an August 1st release date, so look for that one out on Google Video.
It's going to be there for free for everybody, and I'm going to encourage people to make copies just like all of our films and hand them out.
unidentified
Well, Jason, I think it's obvious to anybody that watches your films and all the other documentaries that are promoted on the show and on this network that hours and hours of devotion and passion got to go into, and that's part of what makes it so amazing is that it's It's a from-the-heart type of thing.
It's a from-the-heart type of movement, you know.
And I just can't thank you enough for putting out and doing what you do.
I mean, you've raised so many great points in these loose change films, and one of the most arousing ones for me was this notion that the hijackers were still alive somewhere and wondering why they're showing up on this list.
And I noticed that that wasn't touched upon in the loose change Final Cut version.
jason bermas
Yep. Well, basically, we had covered that in the second edition.
And we didn't feel like we needed it.
We did touch on it really quick in the final cut.
We mentioned really in passing that, oddly enough, the mainstream media would report a bunch of these guys alive.
But I'd like to point out United 23, and that's going to be in this new movie.
United 23 was another plane that was supposedly going to be hijacked.
What happened was the pilot didn't take off because he felt like there were guys in the back that were going to hijack the plane.
He already had word what had happened in New York.
So he was out in New Jersey, I believe, And he refused to take off.
So then these four guys wouldn't get off the plane.
It was very odd.
They then get them off the plane, and they don't stick around for their luggage.
They leave.
Well, inside their luggage, of course, are Al Qaeda training manuals and building blueprints and everything else.
The weird thing is, these guys were quote-unquote never brought to justice because they were using false identification.
Well, if they were using false identification and they were part of the September 11th plot, Why wouldn't the other guys be using false identification, Craig?
unidentified
Uh, oh man, you know?
That's pretty interesting.
Just like, every point you bring up is like a new bright idea.
It's great, you know?
jason bermas
You know, it's just, it's baffling to me.
Uh, you know, another point that never gets brought up again that I'm not sure if I'm going to include this in Fabled Enemies.
I was editing through the, uh, like, cover-up section.
I thought about adding this in there, you know, as a, as another point to that Flight 23. Actor James Woods got on a plane in July.
unidentified
Okay. Yeah.
jason bermas
He saw Otta and three other guys all dressed up in jumpsuits.
He got real nervous.
He started talking to the flight attendant.
She agreed it looked like they were going to try to hijack the plane.
They kept their eye on him the entire time.
And then both of them, okay, let me say, both of them filed FAA reports against these guys to the FBI.
Nothing happens to them.
Why doesn't anything happen to him?
Well, because two of his buddies are living Khalid Al-Madar and I want to say Nawaf Al-Shami, they're the guys living with the FBI informant, okay?
They're the ones renting and living from.
Now, those are also two guys that were identified by Able Danger and they tried to go to the FBI and say, hey, we have these guys.
The FBI wasn't interested because they were on their payroll, dude.
That's what kills me, you know?
So, you know, there's just so many, there's so many interlocking Intersecting questions.
I think it's important to put out several different pieces of media and let people decide what they think is the most effective so we can keep spreading this word because, you know, 9-11 truth, you know, is the only movement for me.
Our entire foreign and domestic policy are still based on the events of 9-11 that we've been told by the government and media, and it's still front-page news, and it's still an excuse for everything.
So until we bring the truth to light, I'm gonna keep harping on it, Craig.
I thank you for the call, man.
I hope you have a great day.
There's another great caller.
Let's go to Nate in Maine.
Nate, are you with me?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
jason bermas
How are you doing today?
unidentified
It's a pleasure and an honor to speak with you, Jason.
jason bermas
Well, thank you, man.
I appreciate that.
What's on your mind?
unidentified
Oh, man, I hate to bring this subject up.
I haven't been able to tune into the show for a couple of days because I've been on a business trip, but I really wanted to get your take on any new information that you might possibly have on this whole Nico Hopp assaulting one of the We are change guys over at Ground Zero.
jason bermas
I mean, I hate to even give the guy attention because he's a total nutbag, but let me go through it.
unidentified
I hear you.
jason bermas
I've known Nico now since the fourth anniversary of 9-11 was my first experience meeting him.
I met him there.
And we were discussing Loose Change First Edition.
This is before he was really just ranting and raving down at Ground Zero, blah, blah, blah.
And he's telling me no planes, key outs, this and that.
And I'm like, dude, that makes absolutely no sense.
I go, first of all, amateurs caught the plane on camera.
It wasn't just news agencies.
So what did these amateurs do?
They gave their cameras to the news agencies who then edited the planes and they never said anything?
No. Number two, he's like, Oh, well, it's simple.
Chrome a key.
And I said, well, then why didn't they chrome a key in a plane that looked like a United plane?
I'm like, from every video I've seen, this thing has a gray underside, two gray engines.
OK? It doesn't look like a United plane.
The only thing I see on it is the United logo on the tail.
So why wouldn't they do a better job if they were going to key it in?
Oh, that makes no difference.
I am crazy.
So he came to one of the initial screenings of Loose Change 2nd Edition.
In fact, if you go online, And I think you type in, uh, WTC7, Jason Bermas, firefighter.
You'll see an interview I conducted with, uh, one of the firefighter survivors, uh, who came to that screening.
Now, I also tried to get Nico Hopped on camera at that time, just to kind of give his views on the second edition.
It's before he was going down to Ground Zero and acting crazy.
Now, now he goes down there and he harasses a group that's very effective.
We are Change.
Okay, more effective than any other truth group out there.
I hate I hate to say that because, you know, a lot of people do some great work, but there is, I'm sorry, there's just nobody as effective.
There's nobody out there doing what they're doing, okay?
I'd say a close second is maybe Student Scholars for 9-11 Truth, and I love those guys too, but we are change is across the country, okay?
They're from LA to New York.
They're not letting anybody pass by.
So what does this guy start to do?
He starts to go down to ground zero to scream at them to make them look crazy.
And if you saw this latest video, after the The bombing that little little flash bomb that flash grenade bomb that was caught in Times Square That's exactly where we are change goes, okay?
And then Nico hopped Magically is out there with a huge sign with seven different or I think it was actually nine different covers From that day that said we did it the only little little post thing that they got to try to insinuate that we are changed somehow Flash banged Times Square.
Give me a break, and then you see him on tape grab somebody and By the throat, after he asks who's paying him, and he doesn't get arrested.
Okay, he's wearing a party hat, looking like a moron, ranting and raving in front of Ground Zero, and he's not being arrested?
Come on.
Who's the guy pouring the stuff down his throat?
It looks like an op to me, you know, he could just be a nut, but, you know, if they're not going to arrest him for trying to choke somebody, that's a telltale sign, wouldn't you say, Nate?
unidentified
Yeah, that's just the thing that got me, because I just watched that video this morning, that's why I had to bring it up.
Because, I mean, the guy, like you said, he chokes the guy, and when Luke brought over the tape to the cop and showed him the tape of this man being assaulted, Any normal citizen, I mean, if that was another cop showing another cop the tape that a cop had been choked, the guy would have been arrested and hung.
jason bermas
He would have definitely been arrested and then probably beaten to sell because that's how they like to do.
Exactly. But New York, man, is so, especially New York City, man, right down in the pit of Ground Zero, there are so many police.
I mean, so, first of all, it goes right down into the PATH train station.
In other words, the subway station is right under that thing in Ground Zero.
And actually, there's a There's a cool little part in the new 9-11 Chronicles movie.
A lot of people probably aren't aware of this, but just type in All-Seeing Eye on New York City Subway, and right underneath New York City Subway, right underneath the World Trade Center section, is a huge map of the entire globe in like a circle.
It looks like the top of a globe spanned out, and in the middle of that is the All-Seeing Eye, and it is illuminating its vision throughout the world.
And then there's all sorts of little eyes and mosaics and stuff.
I don't think they're putting the actual world map thing on there, but they are putting all the little Illuminati eye symbols that are all over New York City in the film.
But check it out, man.
I mean, that to me is disgusting.
The fact that they're putting, you know, police with M5 carbon rifles down in the subway now is disgusting.
I mean, how is that going to stop any crime?
How is that going to stop crime as opposed to, say, a pistol?
Nobody's gone down into the subways with a With an AK-47 or another type of, you know, automatic pistol or even a machine gun and wiped anybody down, you're gonna give this to the cops?
The cops are trigger happy, man.
They're gonna end up killing an entire family or an entire train full of people.
It's nuts to me.
Big time.
Yeah, big time, exactly.
Nate, I thank you for the call.
We are gonna come back and take a couple more calls, folks.
Remember, starting at 1 o'clock, we're gonna have Paul Joseph Watson of PrisonPlanet.com on, and that should be really interesting.
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You know, one of the things I brought up yesterday when I had Irene Spencer on, who's the author of Shattered Dreams and Got Out of a Polygamous Family, is, you know, look, obviously there's some mind control going on with these people that are, you know, married into these, you know, 12 and 13 people relationships, but why not go through due process if, in fact, these children are being molested?
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Yeah, well, obviously there were work camps, too, man.
I thank you for the call, Don.
Let's go to Rick in Texas.
Rick, are you with us?
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I'm here.
Thanks, Jason.
I love loose change, final cut.
jason bermas
Oh, thanks, man.
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Early in the show, you mentioned, though, what's going on with the police.
I need to talk about the police.
Chief, I'm not coming down on the side of the citizens.
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Alex Jones Show, I am Jason Bermas, subbing in.
And I want to encourage all of you to go out there and get some of Alex Jones' films, burn them to disk and hand them out.
Some of the lesser known films.
You know, America Destroyed by Design is, I believe, Alex's first picture.
It was done in the mid to late 90s.
And it really is a blueprint for what has happened in the last 10 to 15 years.
I mean, it really goes through the whole thing.
Almost everything in the entire video he predicted has come true.
And, it's a real good base point to show you how, you know, the United States of America has been given over to a global governance.
You know, portions of this country were given to the United Nations years and years and years ago.
Our parks, I mean, it's pretty ridiculous stuff.
Or maybe the police state is your thing.
You know, police state one through three, I think you can get them on one disc now.
All three, I think it's like nine hours of video.
All on one DVD set, the Police Date Series, over at InfoWars.com, where you can get some of the newer stuff, you know?
It's an election year.
Perhaps, uh...
Which one is the...
Man, I can't...
American Dictators, of course.
American Dictators really follows both the Kerry and Bush campaigns, and shows how there are two sides of the same coin, and, you know, Kerry was there to throw the election.
It features Beth Harris of Black Box Voting, and, uh...
What is the other one?
She's got a couple, uh...
Invisible ballots and hijacking democracy, I think are her two documentaries that are outside of American Dictators, but she's in that as well.
Right now we're talking to Rick in Texas about the out-of-control police and the police chiefs covering for their little soldiers, if you will.
Rick, you've got the floor.
unidentified
Thank you, Jason.
When you said something about the police chief backing up the police on this, I thought, well, let's go to the Mayor, so I looked him up on the internet, called his office.
He's not in, but there's a very nice lady there, and she has not had a lot of phone calls, which I thought was very disappointing.
But I made my point to her very lucidly, but in a nice way, because I didn't think she needed to be battered, unlike the Goombas in New York City when they had Alex.
it...
It got a point across to her, and she was very perceptive of what was going on when I explained it to her.
I said, you know, we are in a constitutional republic, and the police are acting like fascist thugs.
And the fact that they picked this guy up for not allowing them to get into his car, and they arrested him, that's the kind of thing that happens in police states.
And I said, we can't let this happen.
And she said, well, do you want to You want him to call you back?
I said, well, no, but I'm who I am.
I gave her my name and I said, but I'm from out of town, but I am an American.
And every time I hear about this, I make calls because we can't allow this to happen in our country.
And that's why I want to have a call of action to people to call in and let them know that we don't appreciate that they're doing this.
And their number is 972-838-2338.
9-7-2-8-3-8-23-38.
That's the city council and the mayor's office.
jason bermas
Well, Rick, I encourage people to call them up as well.
And, you know, again, we can't allow this stuff to happen.
I thank you for the call.
You know, I want to tell a little police state story of my own.
A few years back, I was in my little Amish town of Fort Plain, New York.
You can look it up on a map.
It's very tiny, very upstate, literally lots of Amish people.
And my parents run an auction out there.
They do it over the summer.
And I decided that I was going to go get myself a coffee.
It was like 7 or 8 at night.
It's a little dark.
It wasn't that dark, but it was starting to get dark.
I'm walking down the street, and to my surprise, you know, I'm on a little off street or whatever, the police pull me over while I'm walking.
Literally pull me over while I'm walking.
Hey son!
What's your name?
I'm like, excuse me?
What's your name?
I'm like, uh, I'm like, you know that you're breaking the Fourth Amendment, you know, pulling me over, walking, demanding to know my information.
Oh, we got a wise guy!
Gets out of the car, has the pepper spray in his hand, aiming it at me.
I'm like, what are you gonna do, pepper spray me?
And he's like, you're going to jail unless you tell me who you are right now.
We got a report of someone fitting your description.
I'm like, really?
There's barely any crime in my town.
I can't imagine what description I was fitting.
So I said, my name's Jason.
Jason who?
I'm like, are you looking for a Jason?
Don't get wise with me!
unidentified
You'll be in this car faster than you know, son!
jason bermas
I'm like, Jason Bermas.
And, uh, they got back in the car, thank you, and they just drove off.
And I'm just like, I cannot believe that just happened.
Now, I could have sat there, and I could have not given them my name, and I could have been in the back of a car, probably, you know, sprayed with pepper spray, and I could have gone through an entire legal battle where the cops covered it up and beat me mercilessly, and I'm the bad guy.
I resisted arrest, or I harassed somebody, even though, again, I'm alone, on a street, with a cup of coffee, not even in a car.
That's how out of control it is now, guys.
All right, let's go to, uh, Stewart, in, uh, I believe it's North Carolina.
Stewart, are you with me?
unidentified
Yes, I'm with you, but at two o'clock.
It's New York here.
jason bermas
Oh, New York.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
That's okay.
You just proved in that little story that you told that discretion is indeed the better part of valor.
For you to have not done that, it wasn't worth the beating for sure.
And I would like to say also that I'm kind of sad to hear all these horrible reports of police.
I would like to hear occasionally some of the good things that they do.
I mean, even Alex says that, by and large, The vast majority of the police, sir, are doing okay, but it's these rogue guys that are just ruining it for everybody.
That's point one I'd like to make.
And point number two, I've been in the 9-11 Truth Movement since August of 2002, and I can't imagine anybody who could answer the question better than you.
How far away do you think we are from the tipping point?
And if and when it does tip, what do you think the result will be?
I mean, will we get our rights back?
jason bermas
Alright, here's my answer for it.
Tipping point?
I feel like we've already reached the tipping point.
When you have people like Rosie O'Donnell on a mainstream TV show, like The View expressing truth about 9-11 and them being fired, yeah, we're at a tipping point.
When you have a former governor, Jesse Ventura, going on Hannity and Combs and not even really being attacked for his views on 9-11, yeah, we're at a tipping point.
The problem is that the administration that most people think are behind the attacks, at least that know this alternative narrative, The Bush administration is still in power.
And to some extent, there were those within the Bush administration that were absolutely involved in the planning and the execution of this attack.
Everybody, of course not.
Even Bush himself, I doubt.
But, as I've been saying on the radio, I feel like once this administration is out, we're going to see a lot more lie hop or let it happen on purpose stuff come out.
For instance, student scholars for 9-11 Truth confronted Joe Biden about six months ago about able danger.
And he grabbed Justin Martel, put his arm around him, he said, you know, there's going to be a lot coming out about 9-11 in the next few years.
And this same man, when he was confronted by Luke Rudowsky about his meeting with General Mahmood Ahmed, the Pakistani funding arm of the hijackers, he said it was classified after he actually admitted that he was in a meeting and he was telling them to stop funding him.
So we're going to see that kind of stuff come out.
Now, will we get our rights back?
You know, I doubt it.
I think that they're going to let it out at such an incremental level it'll never even be up for discussion in the mainstream media that we need to now eviscerate the Patriot Acts 1 and 2 and we need to get rid of Homeland Security.
I mean, they've really entrenched Homeland Security as now a staple of the United States.
They're talking about having high schools for training.
You know, they already have college programs in criminal justice where you can go right into DHS.
I pray to God that within the next two years something does happen where the masses are awakened and we get out into the street not by the thousands but by the tens and hundreds of thousands if not millions and then maybe then maybe we can see a difference then maybe we can start to get our constitution bill right maybe we can start reforming uh...
congress in the senate but until we have that kind of reformation where our our leaders Disappointed to hear those words.
unidentified
I was kind of hoping that some previous Supreme Court decisions might reverse some of these things, like in the Patriot Act.
Specifically, Marbury versus Madison.
jason bermas
Well, there's a ton of that.
There's a ton of that stuff.
I mean, listen, the Supreme Court, though, who is it appointed by?
It's been appointed by the last couple administrations, and the Clinton administration isn't better than the Bush administration, okay?
It just sounded slicker, and it felt better, because we weren't at war with two sovereign nations and the economy was good.
In reality, you know, the Clinton family, Bill and Hill, were running coke in the 80s for George Bush Sr. through Iran-Contra.
I mean, Arkansas, I mean, Sally Castillo has been on the show talking about that.
Look, man, I hope that we can have some kind of a, you know, revelation of the minds and we can, you know, get this going.
But I mean, people like Judge Roberts and Judge Alito on the Supreme Court, they're not there for us.
And I don't think they're ever going to rule in favor of the people.
And I know that is disappointing, but I think that we just have to keep railing on the general populace and keep informing them so that we can get the masses out into the streets.
And we can get, you know, a real change in this country.
I thank you for the call, Stuart.
All right, let's go to Jonathan in Colorado.
Is this my boy, Jonathan?
unidentified
Yeah, Jason, this is Jonathan.
How you doing?
jason bermas
I'm doing good, man.
I see that you posted a new blog over at the LooseChange901.com site.
We have a new little blogger over there.
unidentified
Uh, yeah.
No, no.
I didn't post that, I don't believe.
jason bermas
Oh wait, well this must be a separate...
I'm thinking, Jonathan, from We Are Change Colorado, this must be a separate, Jonathan, I'm sorry.
unidentified
No, but one thing I want to do is become involved with that group.
jason bermas
Oh yeah, you should.
Okay, go ahead.
unidentified
I just want to get back, you were talking earlier about how the churches were being contacted and the ministers or preachers are being told That they need to talk to their parishioners and talk them through how they should submit to government, and government is God.
This is a call that I made to Alex a while back, and I really didn't, I guess, express myself clearly.
Ted Haggard, as you remember from the New Life Church.
jason bermas
Yeah, the crystal meth head.
unidentified
Right. That happened with Alex.
He is not What happened, he started a church, and I know him personally.
jason bermas
Oh, I heard your call.
I remember listening to you.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, from about three people, and built it to one of the largest churches in the country himself.
He is a very, very honest individual, very high moral standing individual.
He was approached, and I'm going to make this quick and then get off, because I'm a little afraid to make this call, but he was approached And told that he was going to do this and he refused.
Everything happened after he refused their orders or to submit to what they wanted him to do.
That's the kind of moral individual he is.
He said that will not happen, and that's what happened.
jason bermas
So you're saying that Haggard was approached for this Romans 13 program where he calls his flock into FEMA death camps, and he said no.
And that's the reason that he was set up with this homosexual prostitute in crystal meth?
unidentified
Well, you can come to your own conclusion about why he was set up, you know, with that.
But I will tell you I've known him for years and he would be the last person on earth that would do that.
And I know who the prostitute was that they brought in.
He was actually a White House prostitute.
And I think he was actually at the Bohemian Grove.
jason bermas
Oh, that's lovely.
unidentified
Anyway, that's...
That's what really happened, and he's demonized, and I'm very sorry it's happened to him, because he's one of the greatest people you'll ever meet.
But anyway, that's just what I wanted to let you know, and it's one of those unfortunate situations.
And there are more of them out there.
He just happened to be very, very big worldwide.
And so they made it.
jason bermas
They made a point out of him.
All right, Jonathan.
unidentified
That was it.
Jason, you're doing a great job, and I have all of your videos, and I have Alex Jones, most of his videos, and I subscribe, and I listen almost every day.
So keep up the good work, and I do want to get involved with We Are Change Colorado.
jason bermas
Well, you should.
WeAreChange.org is the big overseeing site.
And on the left-hand side are flags throughout the country and throughout the world.
You click on those, those will go to the local We Are Change chapters in your area.
And we are encouraging as many people to be involved with We Are Change as possible.
And thanks for the kind word, Jonathan.
I hope somebody does look into that, because if Haggard was set up, that does deserve to be brought to light.
You know, I'm not a huge fan of any of these evangelicals that go on TV or whatever, but, you know, if he is one of the guys that stood up against this program and then was set up, You know, that should come to light to the public.
All right, let's go to Joel in Texas.
Joel, are you with me?
unidentified
Yeah, I'm with you, Jason.
jason bermas
How you doing, man?
unidentified
Good, how are you?
jason bermas
I'm good, man.
What's up?
unidentified
Good job on the videos.
Everybody's been telling you, so I don't want to get in there and grease you too much.
One of the things that I want to talk to you about real quickly was...
I thought it was pretty weird.
I took my...
I had a wedding to go to out in San Diego this last week and ended up taking my family to SeaWorld.
And one of the things that kind of caught me off guard was they have electronic thumbprint scanning at SeaWorld now.
jason bermas
Oh yeah, it's been there for quite, I think it's been there now like three years.
In fact, I remember when Alex Jones went there, it's somewhere on his PrisonPlanet.tv site.
He goes there and he actually hangs back in the back with all the workers telling them how bad the thumb scanning is at SeaWorld.
Go ahead.
unidentified
I gotta check that out.
I wasn't sure if you guys knew about that.
The other thing that I was going to talk to you about, just getting it out there, is obviously, I know you have extensive knowledge of what's going on out there and everything, but I just recently found out that Rockefeller owns 80% of the stock in Exxon Mobil.
jason bermas
Well, that all comes from Standard Oil money back in the day.
unidentified
Right. And so, you know, I've been going to Exxon Mobil, filling up my tank all this time, and it's like, you know, now that I've found this out, it's like, why?
I mean, just last year they had the record-breaking world profits for any corporation ever.
jason bermas
Isn't that lovely that the oil companies can just start charging whatever they want for gas, creating this scarcity that doesn't really even exist?
After they take over the second largest oil-rich nation in the world, Iraq, and then they can post record profits for two years in a row.
Two years in a row, the oil companies are having record profits, and nothing is done.
unidentified
Right. And then the fact that Rockefeller owns 80% of the family, and then that them and Rothschilds have acquired a majority share of the world agriculture, and they're starting to look into suppressing that market, it's just like...
It's world domination, but it just seems like anybody out there that didn't know, they should just stop using Exxon Mobil.
Well, absolutely.
jason bermas
I think that people should educate themselves on the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds.
I think the documentary Money Masters covers it very, very well.
Joel, I thank you for the call.
We're going to take some more callers on the other side.
And then Paul Joseph Watson joining us at the top of the hour.
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unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Music We're going to get his take on the current state of the police state.
And, of course, of the U.S. economy that's just going into the pits.
But before that, we're going to take another call.
Let's go to Bill in Illinois.
Bill, are you with us?
unidentified
Hi, Jason.
jason bermas
Hey, man.
How you doing?
unidentified
Good. I'm going to ask kind of an odd question, but please play along with me.
You'll see where I'm going.
In all your years, Jason, have you ever seen a talking snake?
No. You've never seen a talking snake?
Well, I have seen two.
One was in Robin Hood, and one was in The Jungle Book, both put out by Walt Disney, who does Maple Leaf.
What is funny is more people in America believe in a talking snake than they do in their government attacking them.
And they call us conspiracy nuts.
jason bermas
Well, yeah, I mean, people love fantasy, man.
I mean, they're so wrapped up in the nonsense.
I mean, that should be apparent to the fact that, you know, the single moms out there that don't work or not even the single moms, but, you know, just the moms out there that are hooked on these soap operas, man.
I mean, how bad are those productions of Guiding Light and, you know, all that other stuff?
And they'd rather believe that reality than the real one, dude.
unidentified
It's just really sad, isn't it, Jason?
jason bermas
I think it's extremely sad that we're in a consumerist mall-type culture, that it's all about what kind of car you drive, what kind of shoes you wear, what kind of hair products you use, and not about what kind of person you are Or, you know, how much you know.
Exactly. Or you're involved in the community.
I mean, it seems to me that almost no one out there who's involved in local community gets the kind of credit they deserve.
unidentified
I'm one of them.
I got one other bit of info on the police state for you.
Sure. I live in the town of Naperville and it was reported to me by Girl Scout leaders that Our town is sitting on 20 military vehicles, AAVs, that say Department of Homeland Security on them.
When I called up the police department and asked about it, first they wanted to know if I knew where they were.
I told them, of course I don't know exactly where they are, but I know they're back there.
And he said, yeah, so what if we have them?
jason bermas
Oh yeah, so what?
unidentified
What do you need them for?
He said, for terrorists.
And I started laughing.
I said, you mean like the FBI attacking the World Trade Towers in 93?
jason bermas
96 in 2001 and he started laughing at me like, you know, I'm that's it's real funny that our our federal government is Provocatory and helping attacks on the United States.
I mean, it's real funny that they hire a guy named Ahmed Salam an Egyptian army officer to infiltrate a few retards legally retarded people folks and Build the bomb rent the truck carry out the attack and then blame it on these guys.
Yeah, that's real Hilarious.
But you've got to understand, Bill, I mean, look at all the cop cars that are out there now.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
jason bermas
At least in New York, they're starting to take the...
They're not starting, they are.
They're taking the top lights off of the cars.
Almost every car now has no top lights, so it's indistinguishable that it's actually a police car until you see the decals.
And then another sect of these cars don't even have the decals on them anymore.
unidentified
Uh, well, I just went past Wrigley Field, actually, last week during a game, and I mean, You couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a cop car, without lights on him.
jason bermas
It was ridiculous.
unidentified
Keep up the great work, Jason.
jason bermas
All right, thanks, Bill.
I appreciate it.
All right, let's jump to Paul in Oregon.
Paul.
unidentified
Jason, how are you?
I'm alright.
I just wanted to talk about Portland, Oregon, where I'm from.
If you can get people out here, I mean, you need to see what they're doing here.
We have cameras everywhere.
There's an intersection in southeast Portland, 82nd and Powell, that has face recognition cameras on the crosswalks.
I'm talking, it is just crazy.
jason bermas
I have a good friend out there, my buddy who got that last Clinton confrontation.
I'll have to check it out.
Paul, thanks for the call.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back at the top of the hour, and I want to remind everybody that the 9-11 Chronicles Part 1 Truth Rising is going to be pre-screened.
That's right, you're going to get an opportunity to see it before it's released.
Over at the Alamo Draft House on Saturday, May 17th and Sunday, May 18th.
It's 4 p.m. on Saturday, 7 p.m. on Sunday.
Again, a film unlike any other by Alex Jones, cinema verite style, with interviews, I mean, Willie Nelson, Rosie O'Donnell, Jesse Ventura, George Carlin, Martin Sheen.
You know, as well as confrontations with Bill Clinton, David Rockefeller, Schwarzenegger, Hillary Clinton, Obama, John McCain's in there, Gary Hart, total pro-New World Order guy.
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It's a jam-packed action-adventure-fun-fest, in my opinion, and I hope everybody goes out there and checks it out, because, you know, I sit here in this office all day, you know, editing through my movie and checking out, you know, Rob, who's editing the 9-11 Chronicles Part 1, and I am just totally impressed with this.
I think it's going to bring even more people into the movement, and those in the movement are going to be motivated to actually take action.
If you're not a member of WeAreChanged.org, if you're not a member I want to
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I suggest you get it if you've never heard about it.
Paul, how you doing?
paul joseph watson
Hello, Jason.
Good to be on the air.
jason bermas
Yeah, it's awesome.
It's awesome to actually get to have you on the air and talk to you.
What are some of the top stories over at Prison Planet?
Obviously, the police state stuff for the last two days with the Philly cops Yeah, I think it's important to discuss an article that I posted on Prison Planet yesterday, which was introduced on the basis of the tragedy in Burma, but it's not specifically about that.
paul joseph watson
It's about putting in perspective the fact that what now they're saying, probably up to Yeah, I mean the comparison between 3,000
jason bermas
people killed now almost 8 years ago and 200,000 in one shot and yet You know, it's on our TV every single day, just pumping into our brains, drum beating, fear, terrorism, Al-Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden.
I mean, they're still the major political tools for those running for office in this country at least, and I'm sure, you know, throughout the world it's still brought up.
And you have this tragedy where 200,000 people are dead and it receives barely any media coverage in this country.
paul joseph watson
Right, and I mean it.
Basically, it's important to stress, first of all, that we're not downplaying the horror or the pain of those families that suffered losses on 9-11 or the people that died.
Obviously, our entire movement is about helping those people.
It's about putting the dangers that face us, certainly in the West, into perspective and then using the reality of the level of the threat as a benchmark with which to judge You know, the fear-mongering that government and the media ascribe to the threat of terror.
Because if there are 900,000 people on the terror watch list, and there are terror cells running around everywhere, you know, we're constantly reminded by the government and the media, then why is the only so-called terror incident in the West in the last three years been, you know, dumb and dumber driving a Jeep Cherokee into a window at Glasgow Airport?
jason bermas
Absolutely. We'll be back after this.
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jason bermas
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
I am Jason Bermas, sitting in for Alex Jones for the next two days.
We are with Paul Joseph Watson, accomplished author and webmaster of PrisonPlanet.com, and we're talking terrorism and Al-Qaeda.
And Paul, I just want to get your take on the Washington Post now reporting that everybody who was involved in the USS Cole bombing is either escaped or been let go.
You'd think if Al-Qaeda was a real threat, and that these guys were the actual guys behind the Cole bombing, These guys would be the guys who were imprisoned at Gitmo, or one of our other torture facilities.
You know, these guys would be the guys under armed guard, never to be let go.
paul joseph watson
Well, yeah, I mean, it seems that in every case where a so-called Al-Qaeda member can be proven to be an Al-Qaeda member with links to bin Laden and so forth, which is rare, because most of them turn out to be nothing more than patsies, then they...
Get treated very well by the US or British government.
You had a guy in Britain called Abu Qatada that was called the European mastermind of Al-Qaeda.
He was controlling Al-Qaeda in Europe for bin Laden.
And yet he was given a safe house by MI5 and now he's being completely released.
So they seem to take the highest, you know, the elite of Al-Qaeda and give them comfort while they Absolutely, and when they're setting up these type of patsies, they like to set up a little plausible deniability.
jason bermas
I think that's why you saw the Pakistani ISI as being exposed as one of the funders, major funders, of the quote-unquote hijackers with that hundred thousand dollar wire transfer in reality the ISI is so close to the CIA on the dot gov site that actually tries to debunk the fact that we were in business with bin laden during the uh...
soviets invasion of afghanistan they say all well you know we never gave any money to bin laden directly we funneled all of our money through the ISI so we didn't really have any ties to bin laden now we know that's false we know that you know Brzezinski and others did have ties to bin laden But they admit right there that they use the ISI as a conduit to fund these organizations and maintain that deniability.
unidentified
Well, exactly.
paul joseph watson
They're always going to have front organizations so they can claim that.
But anytime you get an ISI link...
For example, we had the, uh, couple of summers ago, we had the, you know, the much-vaunted liquid bomb plot, of which, you know, it turned out to be a contrived fraud, as most of them always do.
You know, the alleged perpetrators had no passports, no airline tickets.
Their behavior before the alleged attack suggested the complete opposite, that they were actually planning anything.
And of course, it turned out that this was all being run under ISI auspices, so every time you have that link, then it's proof that something very fishy indeed is going on.
jason bermas
Yeah, absolutely, and it should just speak to the fact that You know, obviously we were funding them through the ISI, that the guy who did it, General Mahmoud Ahmed, was never convicted of anything.
He was just, you know, let go.
He was able to retire, almost unannounced, and just kind of slip into the backdrop.
Meanwhile, Omar Saeed Sheikh, the guy who facilitated this wire transfer, we've got Bhutto, before she was murdered, saying that this guy is an intelligence asset, he's got all sorts of intelligence ties, he's the guy behind the Daniel Pearl murder, And this stuff seems to fall through the cracks in the mainstream media.
They don't want to report on actual government intelligence funding these guys.
I wonder why.
paul joseph watson
Well, yeah, I mean, Mahmoud Ahmed was, prior to 9-11, he was meeting with everyone.
He was with the CIA.
He was with Porter Goss.
I mean, he was having breakfast with Goss and Graham on the very morning of 9-11.
He was, you know, given red carpet treatment in the days before 9-11.
And he was the chief financier of the Alleged lead hijacker, and that makes no waves in the media.
It's pathetic.
jason bermas
It's absolutely pathetic, and then you look at, you know, Porter-Goss and Bob Graham.
They head up that initial congressional investigation where 27 pages are redacted.
Graham goes on PBS television in December of 2002 and admits that there was overwhelming evidence of foreign governments, that's governments, more than one, Involvement in not only the funding of the hijackers, but other facilitating as well.
And then he was recently confronted by Philly911Truth, you can check out the video on the internet, where before he's even asked about anything, he's talking about his relationship with Mahmoud Ahmed, and how Mahmoud Ahmed was there to play nice with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, and that was his job.
You know, so then later on they ask him about the funding of it, and Oh, I just don't know about the funding.
I guess that, you know, maybe you guys uncovered something that the Congressional Investigation and the 9-11 Commission just couldn't find.
Yet, you know, he's on television on PBS saying that these governments that were involved will be classified for the next 20 to 30 years and won't be released until they're in the archives.
Well, I ask you, Why is it that we had this congressional investigation, we know that it's going to be classified for twenty to thirty years.
What was the purpose of the 9-11 Commission?
I thought that they were supposed to do a full and complete accounting of what actually happened, Paul.
paul joseph watson
Well, you knew exactly what the purpose was as soon as they appointed Kissinger as the head of it.
I mean, talk about a slap in the face.
But, I mean, we were talking about the The foundation of the police state, which was this apparent threat of terror, which the drumbeat is drilled into us every day.
And the fact is that, you know, we're herded through airports and train stations and whatever you want every day and expected to acquiesce and be treated like scum because of the threat of terror.
And in almost every example, as you've just illustrated, it's governments that are behind it, provocateurs, Finance is all linked to the government.
But they're slowly rolling out the same measures, you know, into every facet of our lives, and that forms the foundation of the police state.
But what's important to put in perspective is the fact that terrorism as a supposed threat is, according to the figures, is less deadly to Westerners than accident-causing deer and peanut allergies.
And that's according to Ohio State University report.
jason bermas
Well, it's absolutely true.
I mean, I'm an upstate New York guy, and there's tons of deaths with deer.
I've been in four car accidents with deer, actually.
I've been lucky, you know, not actually getting too hurt.
But yeah, absolutely.
I mean, you had 3,000 people die in 2001 in this country.
And since then, zero.
And what's interesting to me is student scholars just went and got the press secretary.
I forget what her name is.
And they bring up the fact that Hey, you guys tried to appoint Kissinger.
Hey, you know, look at all these different things.
Bush and Cheney testified together, not under oath.
And then she starts saying, well, you better check your sources because some of those sources are wrong and they're giving you disinformation.
And it's not an accident that we haven't been attacked since 9-11.
And that's their big talking point when they have nothing else to say is it's not an accident.
We haven't been attacked since 9-11.
And I'd say, yeah, it's not an accident.
It's because of people like you and me.
Going out and informing the world populace that 9-11 was indeed a false flag attack that has stopped them from carrying out another false flag attack in this country.
I believe if they try anything short of some kind of nuclear holocaust in this country, most of the people are going to wise up, at least a third of us.
People are going to point to the government right away.
There's too many shady things going on with 9-11.
And the mainstream media just ignores us, tries to marginalize us, even when, you know, State Senator Karen Johnson of Arizona goes public, or former Governor Jesse Ventura goes public, you know, or, you know, scientists like Stephen Jones, architects like Richard Gage, they're all marginalized, or they're just called completely crazy without any evidence whatsoever.
paul joseph watson
Exactly, and I mean, the Bush administration could, they claim success in Preventing terror, you know in America since 2001, but it has nothing to do with their success as I wrote in the article because The same pattern can be observed throughout the 20th century before 9-11.
I mean as you were talking about it's the equivalent of 11 let me get the figures exactly he talks about You've been in four accidents.
I've got it here to equal The danger that Americans place themselves in every day by simply driving down the highway, there would need to be a September 11th every month.
And to reach the same level of risk that you undertake in boarding an airline, you know, in terms of a potential accident, you only have to travel 11 miles in a car.
So that puts into perspective this grand threat which is called, you know, the greatest fundamental threat to civilization.
Terrorism puts it in perspective in comparison to the real dangers that are out there that we go through every day and we risk our lives in doing so for the sake of mobility and freedom.
jason bermas
Well, I think they're really good at manipulating our already there fears.
There's still a lot of people in the world who are just afraid of flying in general.
So, you know, you couple that with the terrorism threat and it's twice as terrifying.
You know what I mean, Paul?
paul joseph watson
Yeah, exactly, and they don't often do their best to make you feel scared when you go into an airport, do they?
And again, that was...
I mean, it's ridiculous.
You have this ridiculous liquid bomb plot, and then a week later we were all forced to, you know, carry these little see-through plastic slave bags if we had a tiny bottle of aftershave.
You had mothers being forced to drink their own baby milk.
If you get into the details of it, there's no way you could build a liquid bomb.
of any intensity with the kind of material that they had and the space and the time in which they had to do it even if you believe that they would have got on the plane in the first place with no passports or airline tickets and yet you know we're all made to feel like suspects for the crime of carrying a diet coke onto an airplane so it's just this um this that you get when you go into an airport and i mean that's what they want to roll out on the streets
And they're changing the very nature of our way of life to combat this threat, when the threat in comparison to the real dangers that we all live through is miniscule.
jason bermas
I'm with you, Paul.
It's all about fear and control, and that's what they're bringing to us in this country and throughout the world.
That's what this globalist plot is all about.
We'll be back after this with Paul Joseph Watson, InfoWars.com.
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Alright, we are back at the Alex Jones Show.
I'm Jason Bermas, sitting in today and tomorrow.
And we're talking airport, police, state, America, and really around the world.
And we're talking about the liquid bomb plot.
And isn't it convenient how all of a sudden the liquids aren't really a threat anymore, as long as they're in this small plastic bag.
At first they were like, well you can't bring Water bottles, or liquid, or any kind of a aftershave or cologne on.
But now if you put it into a plastic bag, magically it's okay.
I liken it to when it was the Richard Reed shoe bomber plot.
And, uh, they banned lighters and matches altogether in the airport.
You couldn't board a plane with it.
Well, now they allow you to board a plane, but the last time I got on a plane with a lighter, they scanned through my bag.
I had three other lighters in there, and they're like, well, you got a choice.
You can keep one.
They're like, oh, which one do you want to keep?
I'm like, I don't care, man.
I'm like, this is taking another 10 minutes because you want to take my lighters away, but I can have one.
What's the difference between having one and five, Paul?
paul joseph watson
No difference whatsoever.
But it's about maintaining this false sense of insecurity.
If we agree, which most people would, that, you know, the principal goal of terrorists is to create enough fear amongst the population.
To get the people and the government to acquiesce to their political demands.
So the only, you know, the only way they can do it is by generating enough fear to make people believe that their life is significantly threatened by potential terrorism if they don't follow all these ridiculous rules like, you know, getting rid of their lighters and carrying their liquid through airports in transparent plastic bags.
Governments are really trying to win a war on terror, as they constantly remind us.
And what they would do is sideline and downplay the ability of terrorists to carry out terrorism.
Because, as the figures show, you know, you've got more chance of drowning in your own swimming pool than being killed by a terrorist.
So the question is, why is the government inflating the influence of terrorists by fear-mongering about a danger that's minuscule?
jason bermas
Yeah, it seems like, you know, the terrorists, quote-unquote, hating our freedoms, and that's why they did it.
Well, if the terrorists hate our freedoms so much, no one has done a better job from taking those freedoms away from us than this administration and departments like that of Homeland Security, you know, legislation like Patriot Act 1 and 2, initially the Military Commissions Act, which ended habeas corpus the right to face your accuser.
And again, around since 1215.
And the Magna Carta folks, and that's gone.
They can literally charge you with something, scoop you up, throw you in a black hole, maybe take you to Gitmo for some waterboarding and such, and that's it.
They don't have to tell anybody about you, they don't have to report to you, they don't even have to give you a military tribunal at this point.
And that's the kind of legislation that has been passed, not through, you know, Muslim extremists, but by this administration and this country, and it's very scary to me, Paul.
Let's take some phone calls.
Let's go to Ron in Arkansas.
Ron, are you there?
No, did Ron drop?
All right.
All right, let's try...
Let's go to Sean in New York, then.
Sean, are you there?
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Well, thank you, man.
unidentified
Well, I'd like to dispel a couple of myths.
I mean, I hear a lot of talk about, well, there are some good police, etc., etc.
If there are good police, how could they stand by and watch what's happening?
If they were good, they would do something about it instead of going along with it.
For them to go along with it and sometimes participate in it, it makes them just as bad.
jason bermas
Well, I agree with you there, but I think it's kind of like that hive mind mentality that even though I didn't start it, that's my friend doing it, and I have to, you know, defend them.
What do you think, Paul?
paul joseph watson
Yeah, it's like a gang mentality.
I mean, if you saw that video yesterday, there was a, was it in LA?
There was a shooting of a police officer or something, and they got someone at a traffic stop, which they believed might have been linked to it, I think was the case, and all the police just Yeah, that's the Philadelphia one.
jason bermas
Yeah, it does look like a gang beating.
Yeah, we'll come back to you on the other side, Sean.
Yeah, it did look like a gang beating.
I mean, literally got the baton out, the dogs were out, there were soccer kicks going on.
Three people versus a dozen, a dozen and a half, maybe two dozen cops.
We'll be back after this, taking your phone calls with Paul Joseph Watson.
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unidentified
Well, no, not about the police.
Kind of a A misconception that I feel is going on with the Truth Movement.
A lot of people say that, well, you know, back when the Founding Fathers and we were free, we were never free as humanity.
I mean, if you ask the blacks and the Indians how free they felt back then, I don't think they felt very free.
So, I mean, as humanity as a whole, we have never had freedom.
jason bermas
Well, I agree.
I agree with you there, Sean.
I mean, there's never been equality for everybody throughout the world, and I don't know if there's ever going to be.
I think that's something we have to strive for.
unidentified
Even in America?
jason bermas
Well, no, especially in America.
But it's starting to get extremely bad here.
I feel like in the last 20 years, it's just gotten to a level where a tyrannical government can do almost anything.
And one of the things I have seen in this country get better over the last 20 years, I'm almost 30 years old, is racism.
Obviously there was a huge problem in this country with segregation and the way we treated african-americans And I've seen that let up quite a bit as I've grown up.
I'm not saying it's perfect.
I know plenty of racists out there Yeah, you know we're gonna have to strive for that stuff Sean I mean you know I don't know if I'm gonna be able to bring the world together under one peace umbrella But I feel like that's the guys the globalists will use to try to bring in their quote-unquote New world order is all we need this Peaceful one world order so that everybody can be equal and you know it's going to be great.
You know they're not going to sell it to us as this tyrannical dictatorship.
Sean, I thank you for the call.
Don't you feel that way, Paul?
They're going to swoop in and try to be our saviors?
paul joseph watson
Oh, exactly.
That's the tag they take with every issue from terrorism to global warming to war on drugs, whatever you want to mention.
And there's never going to be a utopia on earth.
There never has been.
It's always been a game of brinksmanship between freedom and tyranny, and certain groups are going to be excluded from certain revolutions and so forth, but it's, you know, it's like Alex says, freedom and liberty is the extreme rarity in human history, but that's no reason to stop fighting for it, because, you know, we might as well die on our feet than live on our knees as slaves.
jason bermas
Exactly. I'm totally with you there, and you couldn't have summed it up better.
It's always going to be a struggle, okay?
Good and evil do exist, and evil is always going to try to take control.
It's human nature, man.
We're just going to have to keep on striving through.
We're going to have to keep getting this information out to people, and we're going to have to keep trying to get our government back.
We're going to have to repeal things like the Patriot Act, like I said before.
We're going to have to repeal the Military Commissions Act.
We're going to have to get rid of Homeland Security.
We're going to have to expose the fact That private companies such as AT&T are allowing a quote-unquote secret room to record all of our phone conversations, all of our emails, all of our electronic, you know, things that can be surveilled everywhere.
And that's just the way it is, unfortunately, you know, and that stuff isn't in the mainstream media.
But once, and then it's just kind of brushed under the rug, go back to sleep, no big deal.
The NSA can do what it wants.
All right, let's go to...
Who did I just have, I think?
Who did we just have?
I think, uh, let's go to Tony in Illinois.
Was that Tony in Illinois before, or no?
Hello. Hey, Tony, how you doing?
tony in illinois
Uh, doing great.
Hey, you're doing a lot of good work, Jason.
A lot of great work, bud.
jason bermas
Thank you, man.
tony in illinois
Hey, uh, I just wanted to, uh, you know, I think you're kind of...
unidentified
I don't...
tony in illinois
I think you're...
Really, it's funny that you bring up race into this, because that's kind of where I was thinking, where I'm heading with this.
It seems to me, after I've been studying the way America's dealt with blacks since I was a kid, I mean about 13 years old, and I really think that the whole terror, the 9-11, the various things, were all there to put the weapons into the police's hands.
And if you take a look around now, I mean, those martial law drills run between Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Mississippi.
I can tell you, I mean, I've run through there, and those are black communities.
You have what happened in Philadelphia.
You have the things going on in Chicago with the cops fixing to be all issued carbines.
The terrorism, it looks to me like it was used to put the weapons into the police's hands, get those laws and bills all ready, and they're going to fire off race riots.
As soon as Barack Obama doesn't get this nomination, and some more beatings get on TV, and some more cops get excused for murder, they're gonna snap off.
jason bermas
Well, I can't disagree with you, man.
They've always used divide and conquer, and one of the key things they've always used is try to pit people who look different against each other.
Absolutely. Unfortunately, a lot of people are ignorant out there, and they believe that that's the truth, and they are more apt to do that sort of thing.
But there can be no doubt that on a domestic level, September 11th was used to arm the police and really end posi commentatus, which is the traditional separation between police and the military.
Thank you for the call.
What do you think about that, Paul?
Do you feel like posi commentatus is completely gone in this country?
paul joseph watson
Well, when you've got police being trained that there are terrorists out there, when in reality all they're doing is catching speeders, and that's in alliance with the military, in that case, in Tennessee, then, yeah, the police are being brainwashed, too. They think that every time they go out on patrol that their lives is in mortal danger, because that's what they're being trained is happening out on the streets.
Because they're being brainwashed, too, that terrorists are around every street corner.
So you're going to get a massive increase in police brutality.
And certainly in the past two years, I mean, we started a section on prison planet called Cop Watch, because in the past two years, the incidence of police brutality, and I'm talking about every single day, have skyrocketed so much that it's getting absolutely ridiculous.
I mean, American, the archetype of America, outside of America, is somebody pulled over on a highway being harassed by police.
I mean, that started through theories like cops and so forth, but now it's so endemic that that's what people outside of America see American police as, just enforcers and people that harass innocent citizens.
jason bermas
You know, the majority of people that come and visit America usually go to somewhere like You know, Hollywood, or especially New York City.
I mean, that's just a hub for tourism.
And if you go down to New York City, it is a police state like no other in the country.
I mean, most people think that New York City is New York.
Of course, you know, there's this whole state outside of the city.
The city's actually just a small part.
But in that small part, you have cops everywhere.
And you have them in the black uniforms, with the SWAT team helmets, and the automatic rifles, and they're in the subways, ready to search your bag, Despite the Fourth Amendment, and it's only getting worse.
I mean again, they're starting to arm them with M1 and M5 carbine rifles.
That's crazy!
paul joseph watson
Right, I mean, talk about the damage that's being done to the American economy, partly through the fact that tourism has completely dwindled.
I went to China, and in comparison to going through the American Homeland Security, you know, immigration interrogation checkpoint, going to China Yeah.
heaven on earth.
And China is a communist police state.
You know, I had my visa, presented the visa, there's the visa, okay, thank you very much, there you go.
Going to America, me and my brother was completely interrogated for like 20 minutes about where we were going, who we were seeing, why we were there.
We were made to feel like scum.
And that's what most people see America as now.
That's how they expect to be treated, which is a crying shame because, you know, Twenty years ago, it was so much different.
jason bermas
Yeah, I'm with you.
And you know, that doesn't represent how the people feel in this country.
We're upset, too.
Let's keep taking calls.
Let's go to Matt in Kentucky.
Matt, are you there?
Yeah. What's on your mind, Matt?
unidentified
I was just calling in.
For those people out there who don't believe that the government's actually recruiting college students for Homeland Security, for the Homeland Security Department, I go to Western Kentucky University.
There's a big ad on the website that says, Wanted Superheroes Master's Degree in Homeland Security Sciences.
Coming Fall 2008.
It's in the physics department and I was looking at it.
It's basically a computer grid where they're helping the government.
They got a quarter of a million dollar grant to help the government stop viruses from going through the internet or whatever.
I was just wondering what you thought about that with the Homeland Security Department.
Sure, Matt.
jason bermas
I'd just say this, you know, universities have always been used as an arm of this control grid.
If you look at it, it's not only a recruiting arm, but they're going to try to use universities, say, in Internet, too.
You know, so the universities that the government likes, they're going to allow them to be the major domain names, that way that, you know, the government can keep control over them and give an illusion Yeah, That's the norm.
I mean, we have little video games on the Internet now for children, for preschool-age children and kindergartners to fight terrorism.
I'm sure you've seen that, Paul.
paul joseph watson
they had those things through the FEMA website and so forth, but I mean, yeah, Universities have always been breeding grounds for minions of the elite.
I mean, it's because people are trained to parrot information and not really think for themselves.
So that makes them perfect servants for the elite.
The fact that Homeland Security and, in this country, MI5 are doing it is public knowledge.
I mean, we have trouble, because we have articles about Homeland Security We have Google Ads which are automated keyword ads.
We have trouble blocking out people trying to recruit for Homeland Security through our own website.
jason bermas
And Alex gets a bunch of calls about that.
I want to let everybody know that they use Google Ads, so sometimes a military ad for the Army or Homeland Security is going to pop up until they actually block that code or something for John McCain.
That doesn't mean Infowars.com supports that sort of thing.
That means that, again, Google Ads advertises on there, and you can't get past everything.
And, you know, we talked about how universities have always been used as front groups.
Look, just because you're going into Homeland Security doesn't make you a quote-unquote superhero.
For instance, San Diego State University was just raided in this huge drug bust, and one of the students there that was, you know, in the criminal justice department, about to become a member of Homeland Security, Well, I mean, yeah, bad people gravitate towards power.
paul joseph watson
That's why we're in this situation as it stands now.
But I mean, yeah, I don't think many people would actively seek to be in Homeland Security.
It's like, kind of, you remember the series V about the fascist takeover where, you know, aliens were doing it in the classic movie?
The only people that gravitated towards joining their ranks were little Nazis, basically.
I don't think many admirable people would gravitate towards Homeland Security unless they were aggressively recruited, which is what's going on.
jason bermas
I have to agree with you there.
Let's go to Rick.
Rick, are you with us?
No, Rick?
Rick Trott?
Hey, Rick, what's up?
unidentified
I'm just, uh, wanna call in about that police state business.
And it's true, I'm out here in California.
Um, was parked one night.
jason bermas
Still with us?
unidentified
Station. And an officer comes, asks me for ID. What am I doing?
They question me.
I said, well, do I need ID?
Long story short, another officer comes, a female.
They tell me to get out of the vehicle.
No probable cause.
And they tell me to take my shoes off and socks off.
They hold me for over an hour and a half.
And in the end, he tells me, well, it's your fault because, you know, you shouldn't be out here.
So it might be They have no authority, one state, commit a crime.
And I just want to say that there's a lot of videos that have also Alex Jones, uh, the Tyrannical Police State, on my, uh, YouTube.
And my YouTube name is Tactical Guy, and the number one.
That's T-A-C-T-I-K-A-L, and the number one.
Just do the search.
I put my audio up there, what the officers did, so people can just go ahead and hear to see if I was wrong or if they were wrong.
jason bermas
Awesome. Awesome, Rick.
I'm glad you're posting that stuff, and that's what we need to do.
We need to post that stuff and make it as public as possible.
Let's jump to another caller.
Let's go to Steve in Utah.
unidentified
Steve, you with us?
jason bermas
All right, let's go to Joe in Florida then.
Joe? Can you hear me?
unidentified
Yes. I'm right here.
jason bermas
All right.
unidentified
So, I wanted to comment to a couple things.
Ron's comment about police.
I'm a former law enforcement officer, and then the multiple agency drill that you were talking about with Homeland Security and all that kind of stuff, and then also to the airports.
As far as police and doing something, it took me over two and a half years to get into law enforcement.
It's not an easy process to get into.
Within about a year of being there, I made a decision to leave law enforcement because I felt that the cost of compromise for the ideology that you were taking on was much, much, much too expensive for what you were giving up.
It was like surrendering freedoms or taking freedoms from people on a daily basis.
It was just not a pretty situation for me personally to be in.
I didn't like it.
And when you look at the public, they condition the officers to do exactly what you said, which is to look at every person as a possible life-threatening situation.
And so therefore people don't get treated consistently based on the way they act.
They get treated based on the way that the officer is viewing the world.
He's saying things that he is not.
jason bermas
And Joe, isn't it true they train you to lie to these people to see what you can get out of them?
unidentified
You're told in your training that it is not illegal for you to lie to them, so if you need to lie, then go ahead and lie.
And you're also told that if they lie to you while giving a statement for any reason, then they have perjured themselves because they are technically under oath.
jason bermas
Excellent, so it's a double standard in favor of the police to lie to you to try to get information out of you, and then if you don't feel like giving them that information, you say something to the contrary, automatically you've been perjured, now it's probably probable cause, now you have to get out of the car, now you need to be searched, and you can be taken down for questioning, correct?
unidentified
At the very least, it's given them reasonable suspicion to continue to detain you, and so they feel that they can justify that in their report somehow.
I found that personally just defensive.
Nothing other than that.
I just found it offensive.
I found it unathletic, contrary to what I think is an American ideology and ideals for how we should represent ourselves as Americans to one another.
jason bermas
I'm with you 100%.
What is it that you do now?
unidentified
I'm opening a training center right now.
jason bermas
Oh, excellent.
unidentified
For civilians to do home defense.
jason bermas
Alright. Well, that's the way to go.
Jeff, thank you so much for the call.
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All right, folks, we are back for the final segment for the final hour of the show, which is going to be broadcast over at PrisonPlanet.tv video style.
We're going to have Jim Mars, author of Crossfire, and of course his latest, The Terror Conspiracy, on for the full hour.
We're also going to be taking your calls.
But finishing up with Paul Joseph Watson.
You know, we just talked to somebody Who is a former police officer who was disgusted with the way that things went there.
But there's a lot of people out there that are just trying to, you know, make a career, trying to have a pension fund, that are willing to go along with us.
And there's even more people out there, like you said, that gravitate towards power, that enjoy and bask in the fact that they have power over these people and seem to be above the law.
paul joseph watson
Yeah, well, I think that the call you just had on answers a question from a couple of calls before that.
You know, what do police who see the tyranny unfolding do?
unidentified
Well, they leave.
paul joseph watson
Because, I mean, if you're asked to conform to that mentality, which is to treat us as the enemy and, you know, everyone as a criminal, then you're going to get turned off to that and you're going to get out the heck out of Dodge.
So that's what that individual did.
But I mean, as I said, over the last couple of years, it's gone absolutely crazy.
Yesterday, we had a story out of Melissa, Texas, where a man was actually arrested for turning without signaling.
I mean, it gets to that level where the police are being told that they can use any measure they like to try and go out there and pursue a criminal, and they've already decided that we're all criminals before, you know, guilty until proven innocent.
jason bermas
You know, and I played that news clip yesterday.
I'm sorry, the story from yesterday.
I played it earlier on the show, and you know, when the cop, the police chief, is actually asked about it, he's like, yeah, you know, I've been police chief for like six years, and we've never arrested anybody for a turn signal, but before all the info's in, I'm defending my officer, and he was well within his rights to do that.
You can arrest people for a lot of things.
He just broadened it to basically anything.
You could be jaywalking and be detained, apparently, and be brought down into a cell.
And the kid's sitting there talking with his dad to the news media, and he's like, yeah, you know, these other guys were like, oh, I'm in here for heroin, or I'm in here for crystal meth.
What did you do?
And he's like, I didn't put my turn signal on.
And even the criminals were like, come on.
Come on.
You got to be kidding me.
They wouldn't arrest you for that.
But I think it was more along the lines of, you know, like his father said, they pulled him over, they thought they were going to get some kind of a drug bust out of it or a score, especially when he said, you know, wait a minute, I am an American citizen, I have a Fourth Amendment, right?
I haven't done anything wrong.
No, you can't search my vehicle.
And then as soon as he says, no, you can't search my vehicle, alarm bells go off in this twisted cop's mind.
Uh-oh, I can't search his vehicle.
I have to search his vehicle now, whether I have probable cause or not.
And that's essentially what he does.
He rips him out of the car, he searches the car anyway, then when he doesn't find anything, he's thinking to himself, oh man, I didn't find anything, now what am I gonna do?
Well, I better bring this guy down to the station and say that he was uncooperative to try to cover my ass.
And, uh, it's that kind of mentality of covering for yourself or covering for your fellow police officers that I think creates these beatings like the ones in Philly, you know?
Not every cop in that, uh, in that, uh, you know, pullover uh...
in philadelphia i think wanted to beat these guys not everybody gets involved but the more you see it you see people running and from different cars and it's it's just like i said earlier again if these people were really thought to be you know the guys who murdered this cop two days ago and arm there's no way the police were rushed the car like that they were surrounded the vehicle they would've pulled their guns they would have all three passengers get out with their hands up and go on their belly and then go arrest them instead they charge the car and literally just Beat the hell out of
these three guys, Paul.
paul joseph watson
Yeah, I mean, where it gets to the point where common sense is removed from law enforcement, that's when you get tyrannic.
To think that we're suspicious individuals because we know our rights is just proof to how far we've sunk.
jason bermas
Absolutely. Thank you so much for spending the hour here.
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