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Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Well, I took call.
alex jones
Part of the day yesterday to spend time with family.
I do that occasionally And all Hades breaks loose while I was gone Welcome ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday the 25th day of April 2008 and we're gonna be live here for the next four hours from 11 a.m.
Until 3 p.m Central Standard Time.
And then, of course, I'm back Sundays from 4 to 6 p.m. live as well.
So we do four hours a day, Monday through Friday, and then pop in for two hours on Sunday, which is a great asset because so many times major news is breaking over the weekend and that, well, as they say, the early bird gets the worm.
Obviously, I'm going to talk about the New York Post headline yesterday, as predicted by Jason Burma sitting in yesterday doing a fabulous job.
Fox News and others did pick up the slander, the lie, the fraud.
Bush basher smashes disabled teen.
That is the headline.
And the neocon websites are calling for his death.
For hit teams to go get him, and even after video came out, and even after eyewitnesses came out, that it was all a lie, they are now on the message board saying, so what if it's a lie?
He's a liberal.
He basically died.
Well, number one, you're living in a false left-right paradigm, boys, over at Free Republic and Michelle Malkin on the Dig comments.
We're not the ones for open borders.
We're not the ones tripling the size of the BATF.
We're not the ones signing on to UNESCO.
We're not the ones signing on to the North American SPP agreement.
We're not the ones that, like Rush Limbaugh, supporting Hillary Clinton for president.
We're not the ones.
You've got the wrong people that have bankrupted the economy and the dollar.
You see, we know that Republicans and Democrats are owned by the same interest.
We are adults here.
And we're very upset about what's happening to our beloved Republic, what's happening to our currency, what's happening to our national name.
And I don't even really get mad at the neocon minions anymore.
I get sad.
But I remember being in New York City last year on, what, September 9th.
And it's all on video, and the police call me out of the crowd.
I don't touch them.
I don't yell at them.
I don't abuse them.
They put me in handcuffs.
They falsely take me to jail.
They later admitted that what they cited me with was not an arrestable offense.
And when I got to the jail, they said, what'd he do?
And they said to the guy up behind the counter, they said, he hit a cop.
And they all went, he hit a cop?
Oh, big tough guy.
And I just said, listen.
There were scores of cameras.
You're not going to get away with this.
Please don't frame me.
Please don't make me sue you.
And then they suddenly looked at me like I was a guinea pig that hadn't been declawed and had my eyeballs gouged out.
They're like big python snakes and the normal citizen is like a guinea pig that's had its legs removed, its eyes removed, its teeth removed.
And they just dropped the furry ball in for the snake to eat it because the general public has been told to trust cops.
Everything's going to be alright.
They're here to guard your freedom.
Justice is going to be served.
Not me, folks.
I'm a little guinea pig.
I'm still a nothing, but I've got little claws.
I got little teeth.
I still got eyes.
And as soon as they knew I could see, they looked at me like I was a human being.
They kind of pulled back and went, whoa, we got one.
We got a thinker.
I'm not that smart, but again, I've still got a brain.
I forgot lobotomized guinea pigs.
They also lobotomize them.
They do that for some big prize snakes.
They basically gouge the eyes out of what they eat.
But anyways, I'll finish up when we get back.
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It is a big idea.
A new world order.
alex jones
In the near future.
Earth is dominated by a powerful world government.
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It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
Could their objective be world domination?
alex jones
For thousands of years, their dark order grew.
Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.
For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.
You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.
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The Overbearers are making great progress toward a world government.
Most people have no idea.
alex jones
They're not after money.
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They have all the money they need.
They're after power.
That's what happens here.
alex jones
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Thank you for joining us on this Friday edition.
My apologies to former government analyst, economist, amazing researcher Richard C. Cook.
I canceled him today.
We were going to come in hot on this Friday edition with an hour-long economic discussion with him, but with this We Are Change frame-up operation that we're witnessing, I have suspended that guest until next week, but there's a silver lining.
He'll be with us for two hours to go over the history of Modern Banking, the Federal Reserve, and where we're going, what they're engineering right now.
Jack McClam to talk about The fusion centers the martial law drills Nationwide with the police admit they're getting ready for martial law Where they go out and violate the entire public's fourth and fifth amendment randomly searching everyone all over the country Jack will be with us for a full hour in the second hour Then William Lewis for 30 minutes popping in to finish up talking about his new film Washington you're fired already sending shockwaves across the nation former Reuters
reporter, award-winning researcher, historian, also very controversial, Michael Hoffman.
We're going to have him back up the next few months to talk about different subjects he covers, but today he'll be discussing some very important information.
And the Nobel Prize winner for the last 30 minutes, Joseph Stiglitz.
Uh, has joined us two times in the past.
He'll be joining us again today to talk about exactly what's happening with the world economy and his prediction, uh, last January on this radio show, uh, that we would go into a world depression if the, uh, central banks did not reverse their activities.
So that is coming, uh, up today.
Really jam-packed radio show.
We're going to have Richard Cook on, but I canceled him and moved him this morning.
Because we need to cover what's happening.
All right, let me just try to calmly cover all the points.
Last night, reading about all this, watching it, reading the Fox News report, reading the Washington article, reading the story out of the New York Post, a bunch of news reporting on it, hundreds of things ran through my mind.
Hundreds of different pieces of information of The dishonorable activity of the police, the corruption of the media, the way innocents are always framed, and the good guys in the history books set up to be the bad guys, and the bad guys are made to be the heroes.
All these different facets.
The response of the neocon blogs calling for the violent attack and death of this poor young man who was physically assaulted.
By this Bush minion.
How the neocons then call us liberals and call Bush conservative.
Just this Alice in Wonderland nature of everything that we're seeing absolutely boggles the mind.
But let me just start the story this way.
Last year I'm in New York.
I guess about six, eight months ago.
It's a few days before September 11th.
I was arrested for using a unpermitted sound device at a peaceful demonstration.
Everybody's seen the video on the web.
It's on YouTube.
It's an upcoming film.
I'm making about 9-11 Truth.
I use a bullhorn.
The police come and wave at me from about 10 yards away.
I'm in the crowd.
I immediately come to them.
They immediately bring me to the edge of the street.
They immediately turn me around and grunt with full power and put the handcuffs on so hard they cut into my wrist and my wrist bled.
They then shoved me into the car.
They then arrested a bunch of camera people, two camera people, assaulted the Discovery Channel award-winning cameraman, guys shot for, you know, Oscar-winning films and documentaries, Etienne D'Avignon.
They just ran across the street to attack him, had a police riot, took me to jail, and they marched me in to the classic New York precinct, and the Southern precinct, as they call it, the Southern Police Office there in Manhattan, the South Office.
They marched me up to the big desk and the Grand Inquisitor behind it on his power trip.
A job where he gets to, you know, indulges his petty power trip at 24 hours a day.
Most of us would be embarrassed to engage in one-tenth of this type of just, just, just absolute...
It's like a small child dressing up in a general's outfit and walking around giving stuffed animals orders.
I mean, it's that ridiculous.
I mean, I'm somebody that has quite a modicum of petty power.
This whole planet's petty.
Our whole species is petting.
If I was king of the earth, I wouldn't be on a power trip.
But I have a modicum of power.
They would call it, these minions, great power.
And I am embarrassed to even admit to myself I have power.
Not these people.
And they get to laugh at me and look at me and make me stand there, while they're booking in other people.
And then, what this one do.
And right in front of everybody and God, the cops said, he hit an officer.
And I just put my head down for about a minute while they laughed and jeered and they had a little psycho celebration there for a moment of the setting me up.
It was a moment of victory.
A great moment of stabbing the country in the heart with wanton abandon and deep pleasure.
And after about a minute I looked up and I said, listen to me very carefully.
There were scores of cameras there.
I didn't touch any of you, and I cooperated.
That is a line of fraud.
And I said, I know you're very serious.
I know you frame people in this town every day.
And so you're comfortable with it, but you can beat the rap.
You can't beat the ride.
I said, I have some means.
I'm a syndicated radio host.
By then their phones were already ringing.
The word had gotten out on the Genesis Network and others.
And I said, don't force me to spend Hundreds of thousands of dollars suing you all individually.
I know the system's corrupt and they're just looking at me shocked, but I said, I'm going to beat you.
You're going to lose.
And then they looked at me like I had 15 snake heads and suddenly stepped back like I was a cobra dripping acid out of my mouth.
And they said, all right, big guy.
All right, tough guy.
And shoved me back into the jailer area where they took me and he goes, are you gonna hit me?
Are you a big?
Oh, he's a pretty big guy.
And I said, listen, I said, I don't have any criminal record.
I'm not going to hit you so you can beat me up or kill me.
I just said, please, for God's sakes.
And then he, he laughs again.
He goes, what'd he do?
Well, he hit a cop.
And I just said, oh my God.
Oh my God.
And I just said, you guys are so evil.
And they said, come on back here.
Oh, not your cell, not your...
And I'm walking by, looking at the cells.
It's a long hall.
And the cells that aren't full of people, they were individual cells that didn't have people in them, weren't open.
And I was wondering why they weren't putting me in those.
And I found out they brought me to a special cell.
unidentified
Here's a special cell just for you.
alex jones
Just for you.
And it had an overflowing toilet with human feces all over the...
Caked over, hanging over the side, on the floor, running out of the hall into a drain, out in the hall, and they put me in there, and I just felt sorry for him at that point.
I wasn't even mad at him.
I saw the little cop, his chicken neck, his weak, sunken, fluoride eyes.
unidentified
He was just a gang member, a punk, a nobody.
alex jones
I was an American.
I was a person of honor.
I was someone who doesn't cheat people and doesn't lie.
I was somebody who gives to charities.
I was somebody who loved my children.
I was somebody who had courage.
And I knew then that someday they're going to torture me to death and kill me.
That's what the odds say.
Someday they're going to have their petty victory over me.
But in the end, they lose the war.
You win the battle, scum, just like the Redcoats, but you will lose the war.
And so I got to sit in there, and I thought, And then later, a somewhat nicer cop comes back.
People that have to stay there for days are given McDonald's, and he's given the guy an orange drink and a cheeseburger.
No, it was a normal hamburger, just a regular burger.
And I'd been in there, and I said, hey, can I have something to drink?
And he said, well, there's water for you right there.
And it's literally a water fountain built on top of the toilet.
I don't know how to explain it.
It's a sink-slash-toilet unit.
And I just said, I said, uh, well, look, it's all overflowing.
Can I have another cell?
I said, this is, uh, really a human rights violation, and I'm in here.
And he said, yeah, I'll see what I can do for ya.
And then laughed at me, but at least wasn't saying I'd attack police.
And, uh, I guess that's how the psychology works.
They dominate you, they abuse you, and then you're, you're thankful once it stops.
Or at least, uh, is reduced.
Then about an hour later, I hear the chanting start of, let him go, let him go.
And then a captain comes back and says, uh, yeah, we shouldn't have arrested you.
This is an unrestable offense.
We're going to let you go.
Um, but then I come out and a higher level captain or multiple captains there got the, the, the political officers, the guys in white, not in blue, uh, comes over and says, listen to me, you get them and you get them out of here.
Or if you want to rock and roll, we're going to crack your heads.
You go out there and you tell everybody to go, or it's rock and roll time, you understand?
And the cop that had put the cuffs on me tight, and the cop that had wanted to frame me, was standing there looking at me mad, and I said, yeah.
But I said, I want everybody to know something.
You guys did wrong, and killer right here shouldn't have put the cuffs on me that tight.
And they all laughed and said, killer!
So I've never told that story exactly, you know, the full story.
There it is.
Now, that said, I read the newspapers every day, and I see not one, not two, but scores, more than a dozen, without looking every day, of police caught planting drugs on people, planting guns on people.
Right here in Austin, they've been caught multiple times in the news.
The famous case a few years ago in Dallas, where they arrested thousands of people.
They pull you over, throw chalk in your car, asset forfeiture seized your Mercedes.
It was always nice cars.
They then go take your home.
And that is admitted, not debated.
Tulia, Texas.
Every black person in the town.
Every black person in the town arrested.
Didn't matter if you were an 85-year-old woman, a 65-year-old man.
You were arrested.
Cocaine planted on you.
And we have to let that burn in.
That there are police forces where they're not criminals.
But that is the rarity.
That is the...
And I'm not going to go along with the hoax anymore.
It's a gang in uniforms that deal the drugs, run the whores, frame everybody, and that's what's happened to We Are Change.
We're now going to cover that.
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It is a big idea.
A new world order.
alex jones
In the near future, Earth is dominated by a powerful new government.
unidentified
It's known as the Bilderberg Group.
Both their objective being world domination.
alex jones
For thousands of years, their dark order grew.
Now, as they hail the birth of the New World Order, their great dream of exterminating 80% of humanity is at hand.
For the first time in history, the elite's plan for world government is blown wide open.
You will learn the secret that drives the entire New World Order agenda.
unidentified
The Overlord is making great progress toward a world government.
Most people have no idea.
They're not after money.
They have all the money they need.
They're after power.
That's what they're after these years.
alex jones
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Everybody knows that the days are loaded.
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed.
Everybody knows the war is over.
Everybody knows the good guys lost.
Everybody knows the fight was fixed.
The poor stay poor.
The rich get rich.
But everybody doesn't know.
alex jones
People think they know.
unidentified
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking.
alex jones
But the corruption is so massive, so systemic, that it's hard for me to even be able to consciously grasp it.
And this is all I do is research and study this.
The sense of justice, the sense of honor, the sense of the right thing happening, and the good guys winning and the bad guys losing.
You know, the good guys almost always win in the movies and TV.
But that's not the way it is.
The bad guys pose as the good guys, and the good guys, they rot in filthy jails.
That's how tyrants operate.
And, you know, I know Gary.
I've met Gary several times.
I've watched many videos of him peacefully confronting people.
In fact, I've even criticized Gary to his face, saying that he's too timid, too nice, that he lists so much information Uh, the last time was Bobby Kennedy Jr.
Uh, just a few months ago, you could see Gary.
That's what he goes by.
His first name's German.
You can see him just asking Mr. Kennedy a question.
Mr. Kennedy sidesteps it, but Gary says, thank you.
You can see Gary on the videotape talking to the Secret Service, being polite, going over to his free speech zone 50 yards away, and then he has to yell, you know, the majority of Americans believe the government's behind 9-11.
How does it feel to know that your husband, your father, the people believe that he's responsible for it?
And then he turns his camera off because he is walking away.
It's over.
And that's what he now has three witnesses and others are saying.
And there's also a still photo, you know, the neocons on the website are saying, why isn't there video?
Why isn't there video?
Well, why isn't there video of your wheelchair man, who reportedly uses his daughter as a weapon?
Where is that video?
Don't worry, we're getting the CCTV and Michelle Malkin, New York Post, others.
I think this is a case you need to be sued over, as well as the police.
Just to make everybody know you're a pack of liars.
But see, you've been caught so much lying, that's why the New York Post is basically toilet paper now.
And the Defense Department just gives them more billion-dollar fake news contracts.
You know they get those, right?
So, what is a million-dollar lawsuit if they were to lose it?
What is it to defend one that's 50 grand?
See, that's why they don't care.
But the sadder issue is that neocon minions, these poor people, who I know on average mean well, They just love to be lied to.
They're like babies that'll eat poison if you give it to them.
I mean to see how Gary was set up and to have all these eyewitnesses saying the same thing.
Gary's walking away down the sidewalk and here comes this guy veering towards him openly aiming at the wheelchair at him runs into him and then starts wailing on him with his wife and other Uh, women in the area trying to pull him off of Gary, who weighs like 145 pounds.
This guy, and we've seen his photo, is like 6'5", huge belly, over 400 pounds.
We know the type.
It looks like he is involved in New York real estate and construction with Larry Silverstein and others.
We've confirmed the name, and we've confirmed it looks like that's who it is.
It's 99% confirmed right now.
Total Bush minion.
Uh, his daughter, I guess, likes to go to the White House, never picture taking.
I mean, these are like Bush groupies.
And, uh, Gary asked the police when the guy got in his face the first time, when he was yelling, to please get him to stop, and they wouldn't.
And that's how it works.
I've seen this.
I've seen it time and time again, just like the British, um...
Police will come over and assault you and then say you assaulted them, even on camera.
I mean, I've seen hundreds of squad car videos.
I just saw one last week where the retired NFL linebacker, no criminal record, great record in the league.
You know, he's not one of the gangbanger types.
He gets pulled over for speeding.
They tell him to get out of the car.
He gets out and says, yes, sir.
They start yelling at him and he says, he starts pleading with his hands.
He says, please, sir, please.
And the cop pushes him, pulls a taser.
The guy runs and he tasers him.
And the news says he's bad.
I'm tired of the injustice.
I mean, do you like working in a rigged game where you get to frame people all day?
It's just, it's just so unbelievably disgusting.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
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We're on the march.
The Empire's on the run.
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alex jones
Detectives in New York have been cleared for shooting an unarmed man 50 times on their wedding day.
Bad guys win again, don't you?
But it destroys your name, destroys your future.
The police were never this corrupt.
They've always been dangerous throughout history.
They've always been prone to corruption in every society.
That's basic criminology.
The general public, sappily with cop shows in Hollywood, was taught it wasn't the case in the last 50 years.
The FBI would basically arrest anyone who didn't have a good image of police or FBI up until the 80s.
They're trying to bring that back.
They'd set you up, whatever.
That's mainline news now.
And this is how we got this delusional fruitcake view.
I mean, it's wrong to kill an unarmed guy, shoot him 50 times for no reason.
Cops start shooting, they all get scared, start pulling their triggers.
Instead of getting thrown off the force for being idiots, no, they just get to kill whoever they want.
There have been two taser deaths in the last two days.
That's only going to intensify.
They're increasing the power of the tasers to kill more.
It is a soft kill weapon.
We're being trained to accept it.
Rush Limbaugh has called for riots in Denver.
We told you the Pentagon is behind these peace groups.
We've tracked them back to other staged events.
We've caught the feds and local police in Seattle, in Austin, in DC, in New York, of course in Ottawa last year.
It is admitted.
Do you understand?
It is admitted that they dress up like anarchists and attack other cops for the news cameras.
And in the news, they know it's staged.
They still play along with it.
This is what they do, ladies and gentlemen.
You understand that the NYPD was having public discussions with themselves about framing me for punching them.
I had to explain to them.
I said, don't make a mistake here.
We have video, guys.
I'm not the average person that you can...
the poor average person you get away with this with.
Please don't make me sue you.
And I only spoke to their fear.
I only spoke to their common sense.
As predators, I said, go on to somebody weaker.
I'm the big bull elephant.
Why don't you try to eat a baby elephant?
Try to catch mommy when she's at the watering hole.
Grab the baby, drag it off.
And they said, yeah, that sounds good.
Let's go get a little one.
Let's get a gazelle with a broken back leg.
You understand?
I grew up with cops that dealt drugs.
Do you understand?
You understand?
I've had New York police discuss framing me in front of me.
I will not live in the delusional fruitcake land anymore.
I will not play along with this anymore.
We have video of We Are Change Ireland being assaulted By someone publicly tied in with the IRA.
These are serious people.
They bring up politely.
Why are you selling out our sovereignty?
To the European Parliament and the guy pushes got a guy in the back shoves him in the face on video Chases a guy who runs from him Tackles him falls to the ground They call the police the police come and the Sunday Times of London also owned by Rupert Murdoch This is the New York Post is are you seeing a pattern here?
Puts out a headline after they call him and I say yeah, we hear you have video and they say yeah We have we're uploading it now.
Do you wanna hear the audio and they said no?
And they said well that the police and we call the police and they said we know and then they wrote an article Saying that the hoodlums Anti-eu hoodlums didn't mention their names see because they don't want to get sued you can always tell the telltale signs You know,
headline that the Member of Parliament attacked by anti-EU gang, and it said that the innocent man was walking down the street alone, that the thugs tackled him, attacked him, stole his bag, beat him severely.
All lies.
The video is on YouTube.
I was having dinner with my parents last night, and they talked about how they remembered Being in the EU a few years ago, and how there were signs up in Greece saying that it was illegal to criticize the EU.
Now, that's been in the news, but I mean, this is who we're dealing with.
This is the world we're entering.
And so, the same Rupert Murdoch paper, the police give him third-degree assault, which says that it's accidental assault.
See, the cops Are afraid CCTV is going to get out, or at the time, they didn't know there was video of it.
Because Gary was outside alone.
There were people inside.
Luke was inside.
He got out.
LePacek was arrested inside for asking a question.
And then the neocons on their websites go, why isn't there video?
Why is there video before the incident, but not after?
Well, because you guys know how to operate.
According to all the witnesses, Gary's walking away.
That guy runs the wheelchair into him.
Witnesses said he veered towards him.
Starts pummeling him.
Then the police at the police department walk over and the cops are reporting, how'd you get the cut under your eye?
And they said, uh, no, I saw him last night.
Uh, that's not a, that was already there.
You understand?
Put that in the report.
And they let this other guy go.
That night, within 30 minutes.
They keep Gary.
So I'm gonna go to the, to a witness.
I'm gonna go to Gary.
His real name is German Tallis.
Uh, Diane Lipson and Luke Radowski.
I'm going to hold them over a little bit with Jack McClam into the next hour, if they can do it.
There's so many facets to this.
I'm so upset by this.
Because I want to believe in the cops.
I want the police to know that.
I want to believe in you.
I want to think you're the good guys I grew up watching on TV.
I want to believe the lie.
I want to believe you're not crooks.
I want to believe you're not scum.
And I know all of you aren't.
But the system is.
There's no doubt about that.
You're framing this poor young man, who was assaulted by this nut, who used his daughter as a battering ram, according to all witnesses.
I mean, we've got Geraldo Rivera saying that we're terrorists who are gonna bomb.
Then magically, there is then a firecracker-style bombing, the same type we've seen the British and Israelis do to their own embassies.
That's been admitted.
They said that they do it to raise security and to heighten the police's, you know, frostiness, but then they always announced it as a real attack.
A firecracker that barely bent the hinge of the door.
We have the photos of that first.
And then later the police quote said the door was jammed, so they crowbarred it open, and then the media showed images of that, the door all ripped open.
So they even engage in doctoring of the blast.
We then see Fox, CNN, MSNBC, every channel.
We've played these clips.
In fact, John, you have a compilation of those.
They said put them in camps, torture them, send them to secret camps, kill them, beat them to a pulp or worse.
They're terrorists.
They're gonna attack.
They're gonna get violent.
And then magically, New York Post and Sunday Times of London, both News Corp owned, both owned by Murdoch, start the story.
Now Fox News is reporting.
That brutal gang member, brutal attacker attacks girl in wheelchair.
What activist in their right mind would attack a wheelchair person but a provocateur?
Now, what has Recreate 68 subgroup?
They've got groups linked on the site that say throw blood on the cops, bags of blood, that say have shields, have weapons, smash citizens cameras.
Now, Limbaugh comes out and says, Operation Chaos.
We want burning cars.
I've got NBC News reporting.
Where's my headline?
Limbaugh calls for riots at Denver DNC.
Rush Limbaugh calls for riots in Denver.
We have the audio.
We're going to play it for Jack McClain later.
We have the news.
We have police.
We have news articles where they admit that 50 thugs, we have video of them at the training camp, funded by a U.S. government-funded foundation.
Bus them in from Portland at a training camp.
The police house them.
Then they send them to attack one group of cops that don't know.
The cops are ordered to stand down.
I had the cops on tape saying this.
They said it was provocateurs.
The low-level cops.
Then the news admits it.
I have cops...
I mean, I'm tired of it!
Why do you hate our freedom?
Why are you so criminal?
Why? I mean, you...
Now I'm gonna give Gary some advice.
German talis, Diane Lipson and Luke Radowski.
I'm gonna tell them all this right now.
And I appreciate them holding, I'm just gonna put all this out.
Every angle here.
You gotta get over there after the show now.
This is a big psyop.
They were listening a day and a half ago when I said on air, uh oh, we've said on air that we don't have video of the assault, now you're gonna see hit pieces in the media.
And they did.
They were waiting.
That's why they said third degree assault, which is accidental.
Now notice, third-degree assault doesn't fit in with what the New York Post is saying.
That's the lawsuit right there.
The New York Post, by the way, it's come out, actually shakes down Hollywood stars and makes them pay huge hundreds of thousands of dollars apiece to the paper.
Pull this up.
We didn't even add that in our piece.
Paul didn't.
Discrediting them.
See, there's so much evil, we can't even cover it.
It's a mafia.
But that's your lawsuit right there because they know what a class C is.
They know it means accidental.
Now see, the cops don't want to go to jail for false charges.
They didn't know there wasn't video then.
So they were still real arrogant.
If they would have known there wasn't video then, they would have charged you with probably attempted murder.
And I'm not joking.
About that.
As you can see on the video after, they're all talking, all doing the setup, you know, they all get together to make up their big lie.
It's so disgusting to see that type of conspiracy in action, that attack on America's heart and soul and core, and on the name and image of police.
But the New York Post knows that that means accidental.
They exaggerated it into, he savagely beat the girl in the wheelchair over and over again.
And then they mentioned, oh, but she wasn't hurt.
Now, the real witnesses all say, including people that we didn't even know we've now gotten their names of, said, yeah, the girl was crying.
I was saying, why?
The father was ramming the chair into him over and over again, screaming, why are you hitting her?
Total setup.
The police were all watching.
Then he pushes her aside, starts pummeling Gary, just savagely pounding and pounding and pounding and pounding and pounding.
Then the police come, make their arrest, make their staged event.
Here's the deal.
The center where they hand the Bush women is going to edit the tape or lose it.
There are going to be other businesses.
You've got to get to those.
Go in, be real friendly, or don't even try to talk to the owners.
Just beg the security.
Later you can try to subpoena your trial.
It will cost money, take time and energy.
We'll do that if need be.
But right now, you need to just get them together and say, hey, will you let me look at it at least?
And a lot of times, these security guards, maybe a gas station, maybe a restaurant, you hit one of them, you're going to be able to probably get it.
And then we've got them, we've got them.
And see, we'll then expose how they're liars, just like we have the video of them lying about We Are Change Ireland.
This guy's chasing them and assaulting them.
They're running from him.
And the media turns it into, member of parliament viciously attacked by anti-EU group.
Now they're never saying we are changed because they're afraid of it, they know it's caught fire, so they're always trying to isolate it.
So they've decided to say anti-EU group.
And this is what was said inside the Defense Intelligence Agency, inside the CIA, inside the CBS broadcast center that gives all the orders to Fox.
Fox is really a subsidiary.
This is what Viacom Intel operatives made the decision to do.
Now what you're hearing is exactly what was said.
If we can't beat these people, and it's clear it's going to continue to spread, this activism, we're going to mislabel each event and recycle it as propaganda against them.
Don't say their names, the memo went out, and say whatever the group is, whatever your agenda is in your sector.
In the UK, In the Emerald Isle, it is the European Union integration of Ireland and England, and Scotland.
So there you will say it is anti-EU gang.
Use the term gang, because it's one of those double-use terms.
You can't get sued for calling them a gang, because five guys out for a walk, or a soccer game, you know, is a gang.
It's like calling you an extremist.
They'll call somebody that blows up a church an extremist, which is too small a word They should be terrorists, but then they can later call someone who's innocent an extremist.
See how their psych warfare works?
So this is what was said.
I'm not kidding.
This is what was said.
I understand the enemy's operation.
I study it so much now that I've got a full map of it in my mind.
It's pretty simple.
They said, we can't beat these people.
This is going to be the new attack pattern.
Watch. Watch it unfold.
We've got countermeasures to that, too.
For each measure, there's a countermeasure.
They're going to try to recycle.
That's the term they used.
I'll guarantee you.
They're gonna recycle this.
That freaks you out, doesn't it, government, that I understand?
I've got what you...
I know what you're doing.
Probably more than you do, because you're compartmentalized.
It's disgusting what you're doing.
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For God's sakes, join us.
Now... They said, we will recycle this.
And so...
Wherever these events happen, we'll say, oh, anti-war group attacks wheelchair girl.
9-11 Truth's gotten too much attention.
We Are Change is growing too fast.
It's infectious.
All these...
They just had a state senator in Arizona go public.
Highly respected.
They're totally freaking out.
I mean, it's something every day now.
They said, we gotta minimize it, but we'll use...
A, we'll minimize and not say it's 9-11 Truth anymore.
We can't beat them by fighting with them toe-to-toe, is what they've said.
But we'll also recycle and then say that, oh, they're anti-EU, oh, they're anti-war.
And we'll use that as the cover story and then we'll arrest and frame each person, each group.
So you've got to have cameras rolling at all times.
You can't go out alone and do these events.
You can't split up.
Some of you can't go inside and the others of you stay outside.
You've also got to know with these high-value targets in the info war going out and confronting them that you get around any of the vice presidents, as I'm told they did last night, Len Cheney, or any of the president's women, that you're in danger of them shooting you and saying you had a gun.
I mean, they wanted, Nixon wanted to bomb Uh, the, uh, Republican National Convention.
That's on...
I had read the documents, but I was in a hotel room two years ago in Dallas watching Frontline, and there they were admitting it on PBS.
Yes, it's admitted.
Nixon wanted to bomb the RNC and blame it on the leftists.
Well, see, Limbaugh's saying, attack, burn, destroy, make the Democrats look bad.
The feds have infiltrated.
They're getting ready to do that in Denver.
Uh, we've got, uh, We've got him doing this to We Are Change all over.
We're in a very dangerous mode, ladies and gentlemen.
Okay, I apologize for making them hold for ten minutes.
I want to hold Gary, Diane Lipson, Luke Radowski over into the next segment.
But first off, Gary, what do you think of the analysis you just heard?
unidentified
Well, you know, it's common sense.
I was straight-up framed, you know, in the meaning of the word.
A 500-pound guy and a 145-pound guy, you know, there's a big difference.
And when you have basically all the witnesses are saying that this guy was attacking me, and then they switch their stories saying that they're trying to get me off of their daughter, that's a contradiction right there in BYU.
alex jones
How do you think, how do you think that, exactly, at first it wasn't the daughter, it was you and him fighting, now it's, I mean, what do you want to say to the officers that are framing you?
unidentified
I think that they have a very low IQ and they can't, just how they couldn't even handcuff me, they can't even put a story together.
And it's gonna backfire on them.
And we always have the last word because basically they try to discredit us.
alex jones
That's right.
unidentified
To come back.
alex jones
That's right.
The CCTV and Michelle Malkin, all of you, you're gonna get sued.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
We'll be right back.
alex jones
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These truthers are exactly the kind of people who want to rock this nation's foundation terrace apart and plant the seeds of dissatisfaction in all of us.
I saw why he's coming out of there.
I think he's got a bomb in his bag.
By the time the government figures it out, you'll be in a hole for 30 days.
Which is why I believe these guys are dangerous.
I believe these guys are anarchists that are looking to tear us apart.
I mean, this is the kind of group that a Timothy McVeigh would come from.
This kind of propaganda is hurtful to those who lost loved ones on 9-11 and damaging to America's image abroad.
But the more serious matter is the rise of dangerous radicals roaming the country unchallenged, infringing on freedom of speech, disrupting worship, and insulting decent people.
stop providing comfort comfort to terrorists and others who would harm americans including our own family the and if things don't change
soon he will oh man has invented his doom first step was touching the moon now there's a woman on my block should just sit there as the night grows still should say who gonna take away his license to kill By the way, that's about three months, four months old.
alex jones
That's not even all the latest ones, where Geraldo says we're bomber, terrorist, and we're gonna bomb, then magically it happens.
Magically, they say we did it.
Magically, provocateurs show up at Ground Zero with signs saying we did it.
We've got the Scarborough country, where they say that we need to be sent to secret camps, that we need to be tortured.
We have those clips.
We have the same thing being said by other shows going back to Gary and then bringing up Diane and Luke Rudowsky you guys just jump at any time Gary on the record here just just in summation is this correct to say he followed you with a wheelchair rammed you with it Then attacks you you never even fought back the witnesses say and the police framed you Yeah,
him the camera out of my hand when you hear me saying get out of my face obviously i was talking to him not not not a wheelchair bound door that can be and by the way i paid i paid for that camera it is broken uh the neocons by the way luke online just say we're liars they have no evidence and they defend their lying system luke radowski yeah i'm
luke rudkowski
I'm right here and it's just incredible what's going on right now and the facade of the media basically calling us Not only terrorists, but right now that we're assaulting wheelchaired girls.
I mean, this is just ludicrous.
I am just so sick and tired of the lies.
I mean, even in the mainstream media posts, it says Gary, uh, shouted obscenities at the First Lady.
Look at the video of what Gary said to the First Lady.
He did not yell any obscenities.
That's another lie right there.
We never curse and we never will curse at any high elected official.
And that's what the media tries to say.
alex jones
That's right.
There's hundreds of videos you guys never cuss.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, we never do curse, but the mainstream media says right now we were cursing at the First Lady.
Look at the video yourself.
You could see Gary not saying one curse word and then saying, get away from me, to that guy who was putting his finger in his face, who wanted an altercation, who wanted a fight, who was smiling right before this happened.
You know, this is just a blatant attack on our movement, on our message of truth and love.
alex jones
Well, we need to continue to hurt Rupert Murdoch, the lying scum.
To prove that he lies, we have his other paper, the Sunday Times, where they say that they stole the bag, assaulted the guy, when he was the one doing that, the Member of Parliament.
I mean, it's unbelievable, Luke.
luke rudkowski
I mean, we're being attacked left and right.
That's because we're winning.
We're winning the minds of the American people.
We're winning this info war.
We're winning.
We're getting the truth out behind 9-11, and nothing is going to stop us.
alex jones
They also won't ever say your name.
And then they just put your name on whatever group it is they're wanting to demonize.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, they never did.
The only time the mainstream media ever said, we are changed, was in Vancouver, Canada.
Without we are changed staffed up there, but they never in the United States said it.
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Stay there.
It doesn't matter.
We're proving them the terrorist.
It doesn't matter.
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I was going to have Officer Jack McClam, the most highly decorated police officer in Phoenix, Arizona history, on with us for the full hour to talk about how the police now admit that they're doing martial law, live-action drills, swarming citizens, arresting hundreds of people, giving out thousands of parking tickets, saying that it's terrorism.
Uh, we have billboards and signs and news articles.
Police everywhere are now saying crime is terror, and then you don't get due process.
Uh, but we're gonna talk about that in the second half of this hour with him.
In the first half of this hour when he joins us in the next segment, let's go ahead and get him online.
I want him to be able to talk to, uh, Gary, uh, Tallis, uh, who got set up in New York, uh, Diane Libson and Luke Radowski.
Uh, but Diane Libson, I appreciate you holding while Gary and I and Luke were covering what happened.
For stations that just joined us, New York Post, Uh, Fox News, they're all reporting the headline, Bush Basher smashes disabled teen.
Smashes! Uh, and then it just says that he brutally assaulted her like some type of wild vampire in her wheelchair.
None of that's on the video, up to the point they smash the camera, they assault him.
All the witnesses saw this.
And, uh, we're gonna get the CCTV camera, and the fact that the police would frame him I mean, we have Luke with the police coming up saying he's got bombs, and saying, we know you don't have bombs, but we're gonna say you do!
I mean, they now frame you on video!
And the neocons are on these horrible sites like Free Republic and Michelle Malkin.
I'm a conservative, you're not!
And calling us liberals!
And they're lying scum!
They're calling for Gary, you know, they're saying, hunt him down, attack him, Kill him.
Beat him.
Hire the mafia.
I mean, it's just...
They... And then we go to their site and say, hey, here's the video.
And they just laugh and say, oh, you're scared now.
And then Michelle Malkin says we need to be put in camps.
And, I mean, they want our blood, folks.
They hate this country.
They are scum.
And going to Diane Lipson.
Diane, what do you think of this?
You were an eyewitness to all this.
unidentified
I think that it just shows how desperate the Rupert Murdoch and media is, that they would accuse Gary of doing something that the most thug would not do.
This is completely outrageous.
You know, stop and think about it.
Would anybody really do something like that?
alex jones
You know that's a good point.
This is like the fake CIA nerve gas puppy video they put out.
It's like the fake incubator testimony which they admit is fake.
Saddam throwing babies out of incubators.
By, I mean, this plays to the lowest common denominator.
unidentified
Yes, and also, I saw, I witnessed this man's wife trying to tell her husband to stop, to stop beating up Gary.
Now, if Gary had really assaulted this man's daughter, their daughter, she would not be asking her husband to stop beating Gary up.
alex jones
Well, I want to go ahead and have this go to court.
I don't want them to just drop this or have him plea out for, you know, for a misdemeanor.
I want to make a big issue out of this.
We'll make sure the money gets up there.
We'll make sure we get the right lawyers.
We just raised Selly like 10 grand.
I want to thank the listeners for that.
Selly Costello, I hope he gets it all.
I'm sure he will.
But, you know, the bottom line here is that...
Oh, it's just incredible.
We need to put her on the stand, put him on the stand, and then Michelle Malkin, Free Republic, Fox News, they all need to be sued.
They are attacking us and then lying about us.
This is classic injustice, is it not?
unidentified
I'm just glad that Gary's not alone in this.
I'm glad that Gary has a national movement and people who are concerned about him because it's the people who are alone that they really prey on.
alex jones
Well, in a nutshell, we're about to go to break, come back with Officer Jack McClam.
When we come back, And try to back off your phone.
It's a little overdriven, Diane.
We really appreciate you spending time with us.
In five minutes when we get back, tell Jack McClam what you witnessed, what you saw happen, and I want to get Officer Jack McClam, who's a real police officer, who makes our officers look good, not bad, get his take on this high treason.
And then we'll get more from German Tallis, known as Gary, and Luke Radowski, WeAreChange.org.
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alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, this is not about a young man who's 145 pounds being attacked by a 400-plus pound man, 6'5", you know, probably 500 pounds, who's tied in with New York construction and the mayor and the World Trade Center and the rest of it.
We've confirmed that.
Big construction deals, a big Bush minion, Giuliani contributor.
This is about frame-ups.
When I was arrested in New York, didn't resist the police.
When I got down to the precinct, they said, what's he here for?
And the police all laughed and said, he hit a cop.
And they were setting me up.
And I told them, look, I'm going to sue you.
There's video of this.
Please don't do it.
Have some humanity.
They dropped that.
We have video of them walking up to Luke with police on video for standing with a sign saying World Trade Center 7 was a controlled demolition.
And they say, Larry Silverstein doesn't like you being here, we're gonna show you got a bomb, and you'll go to jail for 30 days before they find out you're not.
And then the thugs order the police to grab his camera, they grab it from him, but then for some reason they give it back and tell him to leave.
I mean, it is, it is...
Jack McClam, founder of police and military against the New World Order, now around for almost 30 years, your organization, most decorated police officer in Phoenix, Arizona history, cop of the year twice, Until you found out about government drug dealing and violations of the Bill of Rights and the rest of it went public.
How do these police, more and more, we know all officers and all departments aren't like this, but more and more it's happening, you know, Dallas police throwing bags of chalk and nice cars and taking them, saying it's cocaine.
How, I mean, I know they're criminals, but how do they just frame innocent people over and over and over again?
I mean, this is just amazing.
gerald jack mclamb
Brother, they're being trained that way.
I was an academy instructor for five years, and I saw this coming in that not only were they separating the police officers psychologically from the public by telling them that if you ever need help,
a citizen will never help you, you can only trust other officers, but they were psychologically training them Yes.
long as it promotes the end that you're after.
And so I saw that before I was injured in the line of duty and had to take a medical retirement.
And also, brother, we saw, myself and other officers, were watching the most insidious, the most criminal, the most evil officers be Being promoted up to the ranks, to the top of the department.
alex jones
Here's an example.
I have a friend who's a nice guy, no criminal record, manages a Home Depot.
He's paralyzed from the chest down.
And I had friends that went to the court case and saw the squad car video.
He walks up and he says, what are these?
And he says, they're my hand controls.
And the guy, you know, looks like he's in good shape.
And the cop says, get out of the car.
And he said, OK, I got to get my wheelchair out of the back.
My wife has to get it.
And he said, I said, get out.
And he literally grabs him.
The guy's got huge arms, huge neck, you know, seething with we all know what.
He drags him out, slams him, beats him, you know, breaks things.
And then he got promoted to commander right after.
gerald jack mclamb
That's right, brother.
The criminals at the very top of our government want criminal judges.
And so, if you're a prosecutor and prove that you're willing to shoot your mother for a nickel and take bets on which way she'll fall, Do anything criminal, you get promoted up to the judgeship.
That's what Johnny Satan Sutton is trying to do, impress Bush enough to get a judgeship by running our border patrol agents into prison, railroading them.
And we saw that in the Phoenix Police Department.
Our chief of police was a murderer and got away with it, Ruben Ortega.
Chief Ruben Ortega was a murderer and he got away with it and he promoted up to the judgeship.
Through the ranks, the most evil, the most criminal police officers he could find, because at the very top of the system, the federal and even at the governorships of the states, they promote the most evil, most corrupt, and most criminal politicians.
alex jones
Now, that's not just so they're criminals and will follow orders and do bad things, it's so if they ever need to burn them, they've also got dirt on them.
gerald jack mclamb
Right. Oh, yes.
That's very true.
Yeah, like they've just done to that one guy.
alex jones
Okay, well, I want to bring up one lady.
They've got three witnesses.
She had a still camera, got a photo of them, of the cops having to restrain this huge individual who attacked him.
I want to bring up Diane Libson, who is one of the witnesses to what happened.
Diane, in a nutshell, tell Officer Jack McClam what you witnessed and then now what the media is saying.
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Okay, there was a small amount of people waiting for Barbara and Jenna Bush to come out of a 92nd Street Y. It was on a side entrance.
Gary was exercising his right of free speech.
He was talking to a crowd, and the crowd was rather hostile to him.
But the most hostile was this man, I guess, in the blue jacket, who made threatening gestures at Gary, at one point even cocking his fist at Gary, and he had this I think so.
like he wanted, you know, he wanted violence.
So then Barbara and Jenna Bush got into their car.
As they're walking into the waiting van, Gary mentioned something about 9-11 to him.
Of course, he had to shout because they were, you know, we couldn't get that close to them.
Okay, now it's all over and everybody's kind of like walking away up the street.
And I noticed that this man, instead of walking straight up the street, he's veering into the building where Gary is.
Next thing I know, this man is shouting that Gary has touched his daughter, and he's pummeling Gary.
Um... He's pummeling Gary, you know, quite...
He got in a lot of blows, and I did not see Gary be able to defend himself at all.
He had Gary in a corner, like a doorway, so that Gary was kind of pinned in there.
And, you know, I don't think Gary would have even had a chance to, like, you know, have the momentum to even be able to defend himself.
This man's wife is saying to her husband, stop, stop, stop.
So, of course, that, you know, that totally contradicts the story that she later told.
Finally, the cops came.
You know, within a pretty short period of time, the cops came.
I noticed that the young lady in the wheelchair was hysterically crying.
The cops, they take Gary, you know, they handcuff Gary.
I made it down to the precinct within about half an hour or 40 minutes of this event and I see the man who assaulted Gary.
He's in the lobby of the precinct, not back where Gary is, but he's in the lobby.
The police are taking photos of him.
He looked unharmed to me.
I did not see any mark on him.
The police are taking several photos of him.
It felt like they were kind of Well, I suspect,
gerald jack mclamb
as many times it's the case, that this big guy was an undercover cop there to promote uh...
some kind of violence or so forth because they do that all the time in our gathering uh...
i was uh...
fired one of the reasons i was the most highly decorated officer but i was also the most fired officer in the phoenix police department and one of the reasons was because i refused to go along with the fact that the new policy was that if you had a patriot get out of the out of his car on a traffic stop or something One of the cops there would fall down and faint like he had been pushed,
and now they can charge the patriot with a felony of pushing down the police officer.
alex jones
Let's be clear, you were told to frame people?
gerald jack mclamb
Yeah, told to frame people, that's right.
And things like you'd have a gun in your car out in plain sight, And when they pull you over, if they didn't like you, if you're one of these patriots, Christian patriots or something, they would say to themselves, and I was there, OK, we're going to say his jacket was under his gun and get him for a felony of carrying this gun concealed.
And I'd say, no, you're not going to do that, because I'm going to tell.
You know, I'm going to expose you if you do these things.
And, of course, that led to one of my firings.
So, today, this has been 20 years ago since I was a cop.
So today, it's just, as I've seen and talked to police officers all across this country, it's just totally out of hand now that they've got the real criminals in uniform across America, and especially...
alex jones
But Jack, I mean, here's the question.
How would a cop feel good about pulling a citizen over in Arizona, where as long as you have the gun out, it's legal?
How do they all day and all night ruin lives with such enjoyment?
gerald jack mclamb
Well, it's the unjustified means political philosophy that we're taught in the police academies.
We have to stop criminality.
We have to stop the citizens.
It's all the citizens' fault that crime is going up.
They're out of control.
We're here to control them.
Our job is to control them.
And sometimes we're going to be asked to do things you won't like to do, you won't want to do, but you have to do it.
Even if it's criminal, to stop this kind of corrosion of our system.
alex jones
Now, I've got Gary here with us.
What advice do you have, Gary, on this process?
Obviously, get the CCTV cameras.
What else?
gerald jack mclamb
Yes, he needs a very good attorney because what they're going to try to do, the criminal judge, judges are promoted too on how criminal they are.
They have them practice as a prosecutor.
Thank you.
stand up to the criminal judge and the criminal prosecutor and just fight for the client.
And most of them will not.
They want to be promoted up to judgeships themselves, so they're not going to go hard against the judge or the prosecutor in these cases when they try to throw out that evidence that you try to present the, you know, the cameras, the tapes Stay there, Jack McClam.
alex jones
I want to come back in a final segment with Gary and Luke.
Luke has now gone and confronted Lynne Chaney last night.
And also we've got another one of the BBC reporters that reported Building 7 was blown up before it fell.
They've now been confronted by We Are Change England.
We're playing the audio of that.
It's up on InfoWars.com right now.
So much more coming up.
Stay with us.
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Before you slip into unconsciousness, I'd like to have another kiss, another flashing chance at bliss.
alex jones
Another kiss, another The person, of course, is being persecuted, Gary.
You've got witnesses.
You've got video of the time he knocks it out of your hand.
Go get the closed-circuit TV.
I wouldn't even wait to try to get a subpoena.
I would just go to the places and ask to look at it and be friendly.
Just amazing.
Do you have any questions or anything for Jack McClam because he's an expert on these types of issues?
Gary or Luke?
unidentified
Well, I guess it's all up to me getting a good attorney and I have to do a lot of research.
I think I have some information regarding this guy's criminal background.
I heard money laundering on his record and he was involved in some city scandal.
alex jones
Let's say this, a guy by the same name who fits the description, that's in Associated Press, it's in New York Daily News, and that we're investigating now.
unidentified
Right. It just seems like an open and shut case, but it's basically up to the attorney's style of presenting the evidence, which points to a clear frame of.
alex jones
Well, all the officers are going to lie on the witness stand and say that he threw a punch at them or tried to kick them or something.
gerald jack mclamb
Uh, in order for them to get away with beating him.
Um, and, uh, I just want to say to, uh, these young men, gallant young men there, that if you can't get a great attorney to work with you, get one out of the state.
Because, uh, what we found is the state attorneys all go to the same clubs many times in Masonic Lodge with the, uh, the judges, and they're all buddies.
And the prosecutors and defense attorneys.
And so you definitely, if you can, get one out of the state that has a license to practice in your state so they're not a part of the good old boys club there.
And also do a background check on this guy who I suspect is a government agent that is the one that attacked him.
You know, and that would be good if you could get that information to prove that he was a government agent.
alex jones
You have no idea, Jack.
We're only going to say what we've already found on him.
gerald jack mclamb
Oh, okay.
Good, good.
alex jones
I believe the whole thing was a setup.
They publicized that they were going to be there.
Yes. And it's following an MO.
It's Rupert Murdoch papers, lying, with staged events, where We Are Change gets attacked.
This is the second one in one week.
Luke, there's no doubt.
luke rudkowski
They really are, and they have every reason to be scared of us, because we're exposing their lie.
And when we get rid of that lie, we have everything, they have everything to lose.
And that's why we're going to keep it up, and that's why we're doubling our efforts, and that's why we got Gary Hart yesterday, and that's why we got Lynn Chaney yesterday, and we confronted both of them, and we're not going to stop.
And that's why we are Change UK.
Just confronted a guy who reported on Building 7 being demolished 20 minutes before it was even demolished.
gerald jack mclamb
That's right.
alex jones
And the reporter is now saying it is suspicious.
luke rudkowski
It is suspicious, and it is crazy about how these people are liars.
The mainstream media is lying.
Gary did not curse.
alex jones
And folks, let's be clear.
Let's be clear here.
We're not just saying they're liars.
I mean, they're not just liars.
They're liars that want to put innocent men in prison.
Go ahead, Luke.
luke rudkowski
That's exactly what they're trying to do, and it's not going to work because we have the truth on our side.
Look at the video yourself.
Gary did not curse once.
He told the guy to back off often.
The guy keeps attacking him.
It was not even reported by the NYPD that Gary assaulted a girl in a wheelchair.
They got that all on their own.
That wasn't even the case in the beginning.
Where did they even come up with that?
Who would hit a girl in a wheelchair?
A disabled girl?
That's the most sick, sickening thing I've ever heard in my life.
I mean, this is just ridiculous what they're trying to set us up with.
I mean, we're a non-violent organization.
We're never cursed.
We're peaceful.
And they're saying we hit a girl in a wheelchair.
What kind of person would hit a girl in a wheelchair?
alex jones
Well, it doesn't matter.
You have him assaulting the camera and breaking it, and then the rest of the witnesses.
Jack McClane, you were going to say something?
Yes, I say, I do know that you may not attack that woman in a wheelchair, but the government has promoted these police officers We're
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A lot of cops out there have probably been given Vampire Killer 2000 CD-ROM books or the printouts.
This is where they came from.
Tyranny always comes to your door in a uniform.
It can either be the best thing in your society, having good police, or it can be the worst thing, and generally it's the worst thing.
You're being poisoned in the water.
You're being sprayed.
You're being used.
I know a lot of cops are actually fans of the show and know the truth, but a lot of other ones are just these power-mad psychopaths, and they're recruiting them, as Jack said.
In closing, with Gary Tallis, who was assaulted and set up and framed, Diane Lipson and Luke Radowski, each of you, a two-minute closing statement.
I appreciate all your time.
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Diane Lipson, I would like for this person who assaulted Gary to know that the New World Order does not care about his handicapped daughter, and the New World Order will sacrifice his handicapped daughter.
I want him to know who he's defending.
alex jones
Absolutely, that's a good point.
Anything else, Diane, you want to make about what's happened here?
unidentified
I guess I just want to thank you.
Well, we appreciate your courage.
alex jones
You know, we see the evidence of tyranny in the newspapers, we read about it in legislation, but I challenge listeners, go out there like Diane and others have done, see it for yourself, up close.
Be persecuted.
I mean, as Jesus said, it's a blessing.
You really discover just how real it is.
Jack is I mean, can you elaborate on that point before we go to Gary and Luke and finish up with them?
And of course, pray for Gary.
His full name is German Talus.
Because... I mean, you need to get out there on the streets to really experience it.
I think a lot of people living in their houses, on their couches, have never really experienced this.
They don't know how it's growing.
How important is really experiencing this, Jack?
gerald jack mclamb
Well, it's very much so, brother, because if you're not being persecuted at this time in our society, you better check your parameters because you're not getting the right things done.
As God said in Matthew 5.11, Blessed are ye when men revile you and persecute you and say all manner of evil things against you falsely for my sake.
So if you're not being persecuted at this time,
So I'm honored to know these guys there, and I would ask any attorneys out there listening to this program to please get a hold of them, if you can be unbiased and not side with the Bar Association and so forth.
Please get a hold of them because they need some good attorneys that can go up against the evil judge and the evil prosecutor that are going to try to hold their evidence out of the jury seeing that evidence.
alex jones
Absolutely. Diane Lipson, thank you for your eyewitness testimony.
Thank you for the photos you took of the police restraining the madman.
Thank you for joining us.
Let's go to Luke for a final statement and then one from Gary.
luke rudkowski
I just wanted to say that this is an outlier.
Outright lie.
It's a slander and libel.
What the provocateur attack on us is really, it really is.
And it's just trying to destroy our name and our message and everything we've done for all 9-11 victims' family members and all 9-11 sick and dying first responders, which we have been working tirelessly for.
This is an outright lie.
This is an outright slander.
We will not be stopped.
This will not work.
The truth is on our side.
We have everything.
alex jones
By the way, the listeners of this show are the main contributors to WeAreChange.org.
I went to New York last year, paid for everything on my side, and, you know, helped contribute the $14,000 to the Feel Good Foundation.
He's even given his own kidney.
He lives in a tiny little hovel.
John Feel, he gave a kidney to a first responder.
He is a first responder, just a wonderful person.
And so WeAreChange paid for the buses to take them to congressional hearings.
And then you saw the result of those.
EPA comes out and says, the judges say Christina Todd Whitman knew it was deadly, but that she's immune.
Bloomberg just admitted the people are dead and dying and being poisoned.
And so Bloomberg has finally said they should be taken care of.
That's a major victory, Luke.
luke rudkowski
We started those congressional hearings by confronting Dennis Kucinich, who was a presidential candidate, with David Miller, who was a sick and dying first responder.
That's good to know.
But what did you get?
alex jones
What do you get instead?
You get slobs and corrupt cops coming over saying they're going to plant bombs on you and laughing at you.
I mean, Jack McClann, this is disgusting, isn't it?
gerald jack mclamb
It's the status quo today.
Sadly, when I was on the police force, they started...
I was real close to the recruiting area.
Because I was an academy instructor.
And they started screening out Christians, anybody with high moral values, they would screen out of the recruitment process.
And I had a lot to do with that because I was a born-again Christian and refused flat out to do anything immoral or unlawful or unconstitutional.
And so that's right there in the Phoenix Police Department, they start ruling out anybody with a high moral character, they wouldn't hire them.
So it's sad, but that's the status quo today.
alex jones
And by the way, we're getting some feedback there.
By the way, they also trick the officers.
They say, you're a good man, aren't you?
Would you do this to your wife, your children?
They have them answer that 600 and something question, psychological evaluation, that catches them in lies, that really finds out your true moral compass.
And, I mean, I had the head of the Texas...
Retired shortly after the head of the Texas federal marshals the whole division.
It's actually several states the area and He told me he said don't become a cop unless you're a criminal now that was in 1994 when I was in college Jack why would the friends of my dad my dad's patient why would he?
Asked me to come to the office when he heard that I was thinking about becoming a cop was just one of the things I was thinking about Why would he ask that I meet with him and then spend five minutes with me telling me, don't become an officer unless you're a criminal.
Why would he do that, Jack?
gerald jack mclamb
Well, I was injured in the line of duty in 86 and took a medical retirement and it was going that way at that time.
They were hiring criminals off the street to be cops.
And so in 94, brother, I guess it's just showing what we know today to be true.
That if you're a good, moral, upstanding person, you're not going to do well in law enforcement today.
Now, let me say this, we have some thousands and thousands of good, moral, upstanding cops, but they don't go anywhere.
They stay patrolmen, they don't get promoted, and it's sad, but that's the truth of the matter.
alex jones
Well, you can see it.
I'll go to events, another black, white, Hispanic, Asian, and the Yes, on average, fat, crazy-looking, gang-member-ish guys on top.
gerald jack mclamb
that's right.
And that's what it is.
I went to lunch with my dear wife yesterday and I'm sitting in there and in walks the Second-in-command of our sheriff's department here in Idaho County and he's got an earring in and tattoos up and down his arms big heavy guy and I mean he looks just like a guy out of prison and Tell my wife about I said man if I were to guess this guy's a Felon
and a You know, and he's in the sheriff's department.
alex jones
Well, we knew this ten years ago, but now mainstream media admits this week.
Masses of felons in police departments and the military.
That's who they're looking for.
gerald jack mclamb
That's what they're looking for.
Alex, I was told by one of our intel people six months ago that the real president of the United States, Cheney, and his puppet, boy George Bush, are bringing back Hardcore, mass-murdering mercenaries from Iraq that's just dressed up as Sunnis and blowing up Shiites and dressed up as Shiites and blowing up Sunnis in the community,
killing them to start the civil war over there.
And they're bringing them back, one, for each county in America to be over the county, to rule over the county.
Uh, even over the sheriff in these counties.
Of course, nowadays, they're making the sheriff...
alex jones
No, that's what the...
that's what the fusion centers do, and they quote said, a CIA operative who will secretly coordinate the county.
That's mainstream news.
gerald jack mclamb
That's it.
That's it, and that's these hardcore, mass-murdering mercenaries that are bringing back these, uh, special forces guys from 40 different nations that they have over here right now.
alex jones
And by the way, there are hundreds of videos of them just sitting off the road shooting families for fun.
Don't say that's good.
Jack, I want to finish up with you.
I'm going to let our guest go.
Luke, anything else you want to add before we go to Gary?
luke rudkowski
I just pray for all the people listening to get involved.
I pray for those police officers to do the right thing.
The time is now.
Let's do it now or never.
alex jones
Alright, thank you so much.
We are...
You know what, Luke?
Real fast, are you still there?
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I'm here.
alex jones
You confronted Lynn Chaney.
Tell us about that.
luke rudkowski
Yeah, I calmly walked up to her and I asked her if I could ask her a question.
And then I said, I recently spoke to Norman Mineta, the former Secretary of Transportation, and on the morning of 9-11, he places you and Dick Cheney in the presidential bunker at 925 AM.
And at this point, she looked at me, you could see fear in her eyes, and she just started running away like a little coward.
Later, I came back to her again, and I was like, Ms. Wynn, please, the 9-11 victim's family members deserve to know what happened in that bunker on the morning of 9-11.
And she just looked at me, and she just looked away.
alex jones
Well, Hamilton, the head of the committee, ... admits that it's true that Cheney was there and lied about it, and Norman Mineta's reported, so we know they're lying.
Luke, your view?
luke rudkowski
Not only that, but you have Jason Burmiss who said yesterday, because of Newsday, that it was Dick Cheney who gave Rudolph Giuliani the warnings that the buildings were going to collapse.
alex jones
Yeah, we've got that in the new film we're making.
luke rudkowski
Exactly, and this is just ridiculous, and she doesn't want to answer those questions.
She ran away from my questions.
Why wouldn't she just talk to me?
Why wouldn't she just clear everything up?
alex jones
Now listen, you're not suddenly confronting the Bush women Because you're looking for trouble.
They just happened to have come into New York.
And I commend what you've done, but let me just tell you, you're playing with your life, Luke.
gerald jack mclamb
That's right.
alex jones
They sent Anthrax to the Enquirer just because they had him take photos of the daughters.
Okay? I mean, I'm just telling you, this is one of the few things they will kill you in a New York minute.
So I'm just gonna tell you one more time, I'd stop it.
luke rudkowski
Yes. Alright, man, I'm following my heart here.
I'm doing whatever my heart says is right.
alex jones
I know, well, I mean, I understand.
Look, Will, I commend what you're doing.
I'm just saying, they have these weird mafia rules where confronting the men is fine.
Well, I'm going to pull the article up.
Barbara Bush said, six years ago, we have the, it's on M4s, I remember writing the story, it's written by me.
I don't write many, I've probably written a hundred, whereas Paul writes a hundred a month.
And it's her on Larry King Live, she said, I want to tell everybody out there watching, do anything to my daughters, report on them, talk about them, we're going to kill you.
And Larry King goes, what do you mean we're going to kill you?
And she goes, we're going to have you killed.
So I mean, they're criminals.
They say on air, we'll kill you.
Right. I mean, you remember that, Jack.
gerald jack mclamb
And they mean it, too.
I mean, that's exactly right from the heart of these people.
These people are Satanists, and they don't have any rules they live by but evil, pure evil.
alex jones
And they're into these family bloodlines thing.
It's the only thing they care about.
gerald jack mclamb
That's right.
alex jones
So just, I'm just, and Luke, I'm not saying you're bad, I just as a friend have to tell you again, kind of like, you know, you're in dangerous waters, and I'm saying, danger Will Robinson, danger, danger!
Just, just understand that.
gerald jack mclamb
Say Luke, Luke, we're proud of you, very proud of you, but be cautious when you're messing with the women of these men, because they, uh, they will kill you for that, they truly will.
luke rudkowski
Lynn Cheney is a known criminal, though.
alex jones
I understand.
And they are political.
They're not doing political things.
They don't see it like that.
Listen, Jack, how many of their maids?
How many of their butlers?
I mean, they're always finding them dead in Kennebunkport, Maine, and Virginia, and Georgia, and Florida.
I mean, they kill their help all the time.
unidentified
You better...
gerald jack mclamb
Yeah, they see things and hear things, and they have to get rid of them then.
Because these people are totally involved in criminal activity and evil and perversion and everything and child molestation and all those things.
And these maids and servants see these things and they have to be gotten rid of.
alex jones
Look, we're not preaching at you, Luke.
We love you.
I mean, we're just Danger Will Robinson, that's all.
luke rudkowski
All right, I'll take that.
alex jones
All right, brother, keep it up.
How long till the video of Lynn Chaney's up?
luke rudkowski
We're working on a lot of videos, I can't say, possibly next week.
alex jones
Alright, get some sleep, my friend.
Amazing person, Luke Rodowski.
Look what he has started.
Look what he has done, Jack.
I mean, those guys are having a huge effect.
gerald jack mclamb
I'm so honored to know him.
I mean, it's just great.
I love Americans that are activists and are willing to put it all on the line.
Like you, Alex.
Like you, for example.
alex jones
Well, I love Leno and you too, my friend.
We're all together in this.
Gary, final comments.
The guy being set up by these criminals.
unidentified
Yeah, so these guys are just actually, like, doing us a favor.
They're the ones providing the fuel for us to actually keep going and exposing them.
Without them doing this, we wouldn't be able to prove who they really are.
And it's us having to be, you know, we have to be men and go through these situations in order to become stronger.
And that is exactly even the point of Christianity.
You have to pick up your cross.
And you have to sacrifice yourself for greater good.
That's the only way you could grow in this world.
And it's basic physics.
What comes up must come down.
These guys are coming down very hard.
They know it.
They live in the shadows.
They live in the dark.
They're creeps.
They're slime.
And basically, I shine light on them.
They run away and scatter.
And this is going to keep going.
I mean, they can win for a little bit, but it's going to topple up on them.
I mean, they themselves have different factions fighting with each other.
They don't have any rules, and they're going to wind up destroying each other, and that's just a fact.
Basically, we are very strong because they are very corrupt, and we're taking their power away from them, or we're trying to get into something very positive.
and taking a contract, and they are petrified and they're scared.
alex jones
Well, Jack, there is suddenly all over Austin and other cities I go to, anti-New World Order graffiti is everywhere, on people's houses, their cars, on people themselves.
I wouldn't even call it graffiti.
I'm seeing rebellion everywhere.
I think you're right, brother.
gerald jack mclamb
They're running scared, and they're trying to get this next false flag bombing of America accomplished in probably three cities, it looks like.
So that the people are absolutely fearstruck and will go along with martial law and then it's all over.
There's no Bill of Rights, no First Amendment, no nothing.
And they're trying to push that as fast as they can so that we lose, you know.
So I ask the people to pray constantly that God gives us more time and stays their hand and confounds them and doesn't allow them to pull off this next false flag bombing that'll Put us immediately under martial law and end the First Amendment, because we're winning!
And praise God, there's more and more activists like this all the time, rising up and taking on this Antichrist world government system, and it's scaring them to death.
They're trying to move as fast as they can.
alex jones
And some of us will lose the battles, but we're going to win the war with God's help in the end.
We know that.
gerald jack mclamb
That's right.
Amen. Yes.
alex jones
They are going to fall.
They are going to fail.
And, Jack, you've got a lot of intel sources in military and in law enforcement.
In the next segment, I want to get your analysis on what we're facing, what they're gearing up for, these martial law drills they're doing all over the country, calling all crime terror, randomly searching people on street corners.
Gary, we're with you, my friend.
Take care.
unidentified
Thank you.
God bless, Alex.
I'm with you, too.
alex jones
God bless you.
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Big article up on prisonplanet.com.
Neocons urge violence against framed activists.
Right next to that story, outspoken Arizona senator questions 9-11 official version of events.
We're gonna be getting her on.
Gonna have Jack McClain with me a little bit into the next hour.
Then we got to William Lewis of Washington.
You're fired.
Popping back in.
There's a Stiklitz Nobel Prize winner popping in as well, controversial historian Michael Hoffman, former Reuters writer, wrote for a bunch of big publications.
But going back to Jack, Jack, I know you probably saw it last week and the week before that, all over the country, they had, we have the police press release, what they called terrorism sweeps, and then it says, they say, we were out fighting terrorists, that's anyone with drugs, guns, or traffic violations, and then it listed How they gave out thousands of different tickets to people.
It was in the Tennessee papers, other papers.
I saw it happening in Austin before I even saw it in the news and knew it was some type of sweep.
What is going on here?
gerald jack mclamb
That was Operation Sudden Impact and it's happening all over the country, Alex.
We hear from our law enforcement people, federal, state, and local here at our Two police and military associations, and everything now is geared towards martial law and anti-terrorism.
alex jones
By the way, the police are saying that in news articles.
gerald jack mclamb
Oh yes, oh yes, they are.
And what this does in these news articles is it keeps the terror in the minds of all All right.
They're practicing anti-terrorism in our town and so forth, because it just scares them when they see that word terrorism, and they keep it in there, and the people seem to go along with it today.
But, of course, more and more people are waking up, especially our soldiers, brother.
We're hearing from more of our soldiers all the time that are really, really upset, because they're supposed to be in Iraq bringing freedom to the Iraqis, And their relatives, moms and dads and wives and all, are writing to them in Iraq and telling them how that we're losing our freedoms here and they're locking us down under this anti-terrorism facade.
And many of our soldiers are getting very, very upset about this.
alex jones
Well, Jack, I mean, how obvious is it when it's 50 federal agencies in one city randomly searching cars and taking you to jail or giving you tickets, and then they put up billboards saying crime is terror?
That's the newest thing.
I mean, this whole attack pattern is for the people.
The border's wide open, but cops are saying, line up against the wall, we're gonna search you.
And then all...
I mean, it's just in your face.
gerald jack mclamb
That's very true, brother.
It's a fraud.
And it's a fake, because As you know, our own government blew us up on 9-11, that and the Mossad.
The CIA and the Mossad are the ones that did it, put that together.
And it's amazing how they're using all of this to put us under martial law as we speak, without even saying you're under martial law.
We're coming under martial law.
alex jones
That's right.
We're getting nighttime curfews for adults all over.
Stay there, Jack.
I want to get your take on Rush Limbaugh.
He has come out and called for riots.
We have an audio clip.
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We'll give you his website, his radio show.
Of course, his weeknights here on the Genesis Network as well.
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All right, Jack's been with us about 15 minutes into the hour, then we got William Lewis popping in because I wanted to finish breaking down his amazing new film, Washington, You're Fired, available at InfoWars.com.
But Jack, let me just play the Rush Limbaugh.
By the way, NBC, ABC, here's their headlines.
Rush Limbaugh calling for riots in Denver.
Go ahead and play this audio.
unidentified
Look, here's the key.
Let me try to explain the thinking here in the operations manual for Operation Chaos.
Let's not forget what this is about.
This is not about securing the nomination for either one of these two.
Because I, Sink, you suck.
Commander-in-Chief U.S. Operation Chaos.
Think McCain can beat either one of them precisely because of Operation Chaos.
They have both been bloody.
They're both in the gutter.
The blooms off the rose of Obama.
Half the country hates Hillary.
We don't now want to reverse course Operation Chaos and secure the nomination for Obama and have this end.
We want this to go on.
We want the superdelegates to have to make this decision, not the voters of the Democrat Party.
This is about chaos.
This is why it's called Operation Chaos.
It's not called Operation Save Hillary.
It's not called Operation Nominate Obama.
It's called Operation Chaos.
The dream end, I mean, if people say, what's your exit strategy, the dream end of this is that this keeps up to the convention.
And we have a replay of Chicago 1968, with burning cars, protests, fires, literal riots, and all of that.
That's the objective here.
And there has been nothing that's happened on the battlefield.
alex jones
All right, stop.
He just goes on.
Now, a bunch of people, I looked at the number, what, six?
It's here on my stack.
People died during those.
Nixon wanted to, then in the 70s, bomb the RNC to get martial law.
That's now on frontline.
I mean, I knew this decades ago, but now it's on the news.
Recreate 68 has subgroups that say throw blood on cops, attack other people, break cameras, wear armor.
They're linked back to big foundation groups that have staged this before.
Jack, when we have the left and the right in the staged paradigm wanting riots there, that'll really be used to crack down on further free speech.
What's your analysis of what you just heard?
gerald jack mclamb
Yes, they want chaos.
As you know, Alex, we've known for a long time that their whole point is to bring chaos, and they can crack down more and more and more, and the people, many times using the controlled press to tell them how bad it was and how many people were killed and injured and everything, the people will acquiesce many times to the crackdown.
So it's out of, uh, chaos comes their new world order.
So they want as much chaos as possible, and Russian Limbaugh is a part of this globalist Antichrist movement.
alex jones
And I want to add, if there are bombings, deaths, killings, he's not going to get in trouble.
If you or I got on air and said, we need riots, or we need to attack police like these leftists are saying, we'd be arrested and we should be.
Because that's not free speech, that's calling for crime.
gerald jack mclamb
That's it.
Yes. And that's, uh, that's what he does.
is try to stir up problems and to cause chaos and uh...
if he's successful then he gets uh...
attaboy you know good boy good boy and he he's uh...
he's hoping and and these guys are so foolish uh...
alex the police officers and soldiers the russian limbaugh they think they're going to be part of the super rich in this world the the cast system of the super rich in the super poor But they're fools.
They are not.
They're going to be slaves, just like the rest of us that aren't super rich, that have $50 billion to $100 billion.
You're not going to be part of the super rich, and whatever money you have, Rush Limbaugh, you're going to have taken from you because you're going to be part of the super poor.
And they'll keep having him do what he's doing, but he's going to be a slave as much as we are.
alex jones
Well, it's been analyzed.
Rush Limbaugh, with his $289 million contract and other payments, is paid more than his show makes.
And it's all Defense Department-funded.
Literally, that's been analyzed.
Just Google it if you want it.
We'll be back with the final segment with Officer Jack McClam to give you his contact info.
Stay with us.
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And, uh, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order, but we order out of chaos, but we will.
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alex jones
That is from American dictators.
That is President Bush saying, restore order out of chaos.
That is the main New World Order skull and bones motto.
We've always told you that and then Bush says it in a press conference.
In case you missed it, here it is again.
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And freedom is beautiful.
And, uh, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order, but we order out of chaos, but we will.
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Uh, Jack McClam in closing, and I'll get you back up in the near future.
Really appreciate all your work.
I do see bigger strides than I thought we'd even have, but I see the enemy just not caring now.
I think it's out of fear they have to just move.
And I'm just very upset, in my spirit.
I have never been on this much on the edge of my seat, even before 9-11, and I went public and said, look out then.
I think something really big is about to happen.
I know they would have already staged more terror attacks, they would have already done more.
If we wouldn't have been exposing their false flag paradigm, their problem-reaction solution, Hegelian dialectic.
But I want the average cop to know that I'm not your enemy.
I don't hate you because you got a uniform and you got authority.
I'm tired of growing up and seeing the local sheriff deal the drugs and then send kids to jail who used it.
And he later went to prison for that, by the way.
You know, I grew up seeing bad stuff.
I've seen hundreds of squad car videos of them framing people, beating them up.
And it hurts my heart.
I mean, I guess I'm a sap, but there's this thing of, it's not even something I was taught, I was taught it, of justice.
Uh, you know, I mean, I guess watching the old Westerns, I thought that was reality.
I mean, you know, I don't understand wanting to hurt innocent people.
I don't understand wanting to set up people.
I don't understand how, how you, and I know all cops don't do that.
I mean, you know, I've run into nice cops when I was a teenager when I had beer with a date, and they'd take the six-pack out and pour it out.
You know, I'm not saying that they're all bad.
I've had cops pull me over when I'm speeding and say, Alex, don't speed, because I guess they like the show or whatever.
You know, I'm not even saying that's a good thing.
The point is, is that more and more they're scared.
Well, brother...
gerald jack mclamb
They just about have total control of the system.
They have their judges and prosecutors that are as criminal and serving evil as they are at the very top.
They have their law enforcement people in position that are absolute criminals, and many of them killers.
And so we're going into this Antichrist world government system of the super rich and the super poor.
And they're rushing it because they're scared to death that we may, with God's blessing, get Ron Paul in as president.
alex jones
By the way, they've also are making, I mean, like ten big announcements more this week admitting they're getting rid of the Internet.
gerald jack mclamb
Yes. That's right.
The Internet's really hurting them bad.
alex jones
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You better spread the word about this show, these websites, what we do.
I mean, this is amazing what's happening.
I hope people treasure this.
gerald jack mclamb
Yes, get all of those wonderful videos of Alex Jones, folks.
Get a bunch of them and get them out because I'm doing that with my family as we speak.
And they're fantastic for waking people up because it's all based on fact and evidence.
And I'm using it with our police and soldiers because it is evidential and factual and based on reality.
And so, but folks, do it now because we may not have this ability in the near future to get this kind of information out.
If they're successful with this next false flag bombing of three cities that they And that's the intel you're getting?
If they're successful, and we're asking all of our listeners to pray that God will just shut them down and destroy them with double destruction, like Daniel asked him to do and David asked him to do in the Bible, and he did it, pray these imprecatory prayers that God just shut them down and destroy them with double destruction.
alex jones
But here's the reason, God...
gerald jack mclamb
And even try to plan, if they even try to plan these false flag operations in America to put us under martial law.
And God is in His heaven on His throne, Alex, and I think If enough of us do that, then God will grant us the blessing to go on and on and on.
alex jones
I agree, and let me just stop you.
People make fun of us for this, but George Washington literally did that.
And it's not our histories, even the Hessian histories of him at Trenton with hundreds of guys shooting at him and the bullets just flying through his hat everywhere, going right through his coat.
gerald jack mclamb
Very true.
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Maybe we don't deserve it to be held back.
gerald jack mclamb
That's true, brother.
The reason this is happening, of course, I read my Bible almost every night, and all throughout the history of the Bible, God's law and God's word, every time His people threw Him out, like we've done in America, we've thrown God out of this nation or set back and let it happen.
That God has brought His enemies upon His own people to destroy them and enslave them, and that's exactly what's happening now.
So we better impress God right away so that He'll put His hand of protection back on America and grant us victory over His enemies.
And He will do that if we will just turn back to 2 Chronicles 7.14, get back on our knees and ask forgiveness.
alex jones
Well, I agree with you, but I think people like Luke, when they're threatening to frame him with bombs and send him to prison, I think that does impress God, because I know the spirit of these young people.
They're doing this for the right reason, and they're not even afraid of death, Jack.
And I'm not either, but I'm a little bit older than them, and I don't want to die.
I want to keep fighting the enemy, but if I have to, I'm ready to die.
They just don't even care.
All right.
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Alex, let me share something with you.
Very, very exciting.
You may already know this, but my assistant, Carol, just went to Montana to meet with Ron Paul.
And all across the nation, at the universities, believe it or not, they have these students for Ron Paul coming together.
And they had a thousand plus students there at the Montana University for Ron Paul.
And it's really exciting to see these young people who have Most of them have Marxist college professors that try to turn them into New World Order citizens, but they're rebelling and they're going and they're trying to work to help get Ron Paul and his president.
They see him as the only solution to getting our leadership back in this nation.
And so it's very exciting to see our police officers and soldiers waking up as we hear from them here.
And our students are beginning to wake up.
alex jones
Absolutely. And Jack, I've got to leave it.
gerald jack mclamb
They're getting in college.
alex jones
I've got to leave it right there.
But you're right.
People say even if he doesn't win the presidency, this has been a gateway to wake up tens of millions of young people.
And it's another great victory.
Jack, fire out the website.
gerald jack mclamb
Okay. Yes.
Well, it's police and military against the New World Order.
And you put a hyphen between each word, police and military against the new world order dot com, or try this.
Now the feds took down my website about a month ago after they railroaded my webmaster into prison for, you know, Chris Jones that snuck into Bohemian Grove and took pictures, and they've now railroaded- I mean, is it okay to talk about that?
alex jones
I thought he'd want that on air.
gerald jack mclamb
Yeah, it's okay to talk about it.
alex jones
Well, then I may do that at a later date.
I need to talk to him before he goes to prison.
Yeah, they did set him up for going in.
gerald jack mclamb
He's in jail right now, and today is his sentencing, so I would ask the people to pray for Chris Jones, that the judge will just let him out.
A lot of us have written letters to the judge.
alex jones
Yeah, folks, for those that don't know, his name wasn't Kyle, it was Chris Jones, and They arrested him and said, boy, we're setting you up because you went in there.
And people joke about me doing this stuff or say it was staged.
This is real.
You don't know about most of the casualties because people don't want you to know.
We don't like you to know that the enemy does hit us and hit us hard.
But I'm going to have to have you back on soon, Jack.
We will talk to you very, very soon.
And you're on weeknights here.
Central, tell folks what time.
gerald jack mclamb
Yes, it's Pacific time, 5 to 6 p.m. each night, five nights a week.
On Genesis Communication Network.
alex jones
All right, Jack.
Well, I want to get you back up soon.
God bless you.
gerald jack mclamb
Okay. God bless you for all you do for all America and my nine grandchildren, too.
Alex, I love you dearly, brother.
alex jones
Love you, too, Jack.
Take care.
I apologized to William Lewis for getting him on 15 minutes late, but I'm just going to have him up.
I meant to have him up for a full hour today, and I noticed he was only set up for 30 minutes because the show is so jam-packed.
We've got a Nobel Prize winner coming up in the middle of the fourth hour.
I mean, his film is just so amazing.
This will be a little five-minute plug, then we've got a journalist-historian coming on about some important issues.
But, Washington, You're Fired, a film about political change in D.C., is just so well done.
And it's so effective, it really is the new freedom to fascism, is what I'd call it.
You know, the heir apparent to that.
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William, we're about to break, but just in a nutshell, tell us about American drug war.
Do we have William there?
william lewis
Yeah, this is William, but I might not be the expert on American drug war.
alex jones
No, no, but I mean, Washington, you're fired.
I was just plugging American drug war, too.
william lewis
All right.
Well, I mean, Washington, you're fired is basically a culmination, took about two years to Put all this together, but it's a culmination of all the last seven or eight years of spy bills compounded on top of each other, how they relate to each other, what civil liberties they affect, and what the people can do after they watch the movie to help, you know, have some of these things taken off of the books, or to prevent them from being passed on the House in the first place.
alex jones
That's right.
They all tie together in Washington.
You're fired to film about political change in D.C. They all tie together.
And now they just admit we're listening to all of you.
No more Fourth Amendment.
The Supreme Court just ruled no more Fourth Amendment.
I mean, this is pure tyranny.
William Lewis, stay there.
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is a short segment with William Lewis, the film.
Tom Washington, you're fired!
Available at Infowars.com right now.
We jam-packed guests this week, but don't get them up for a full hour.
Next week, he's gotten his film aired on the Free Speech TV network, on Dish Network.
It aired throughout the weekend.
He is getting into a big film festival in the next few weeks.
We just love the success of all these Patriot films, and this is one of the best ones I've seen.
Again, I would liken it to a freedom to fascism, but then it's got a bunch of solutions and Just amazing.
In the four minutes we've got left here, William Lewis, I want my listeners to all buy the film right now.
I want them to get the DVD at InfoWars.com.
I want them to have parties, show it to their neighbors.
This is something that reaches out to everybody.
It's really done in a mainstream way, but also hard-hitting.
Gives them the big picture.
Tell us in a nutshell about Washington You're Fired.
william lewis
Well, in a nutshell, you'll note that there are Other documentaries out there, and I'm not talking about yours of course because you're great, but I'm saying that there are other documentaries out there that may not present solutions to the audience.
Action items, things for them to go out and do and actually combat what we're talking about.
And I think that's the real difference here, is we're seeing a lot of people buying this because they can show it to their friends, and not only does it convince their friends of what's going on, but it sort of lifts that We're good.
them with some solutions that they can go out and actively participate in themselves.
And you know as well as I do, we've got to keep active.
No matter what you're doing, no matter whether you're showing this thing to friends, pulling it up on the Internet, sending out the emails, blogging about it, whatever, all of that helps to spread the message.
All of that brings awareness to the project.
All of that helps this movement, because that's what this is developing into, is a nationwide movement to restore the United States Constitution through Continue. In a nutshell.
alex jones
Continue. I mean, break down how you tie together this grid they're building to really prove to people that they're butchering the Bill of Rights.
Because you show, this is what the Bill of Rights says, this is how our country's always operated, now they're changing that illegally.
william lewis
Well, you know, the U.S. Patriot Act is a good example.
People know that it's bad, and then the rest of the people out there, the other 95%, just support it because the president said it was, you know, what we needed to protect the country, the law enforcement officers, everybody out there supports this U.S. Patriot Act, not even understanding that, first of all, it was drafted by Viet Dinh, who was a communist, and second of all, it's not even the original bill.
It was switched at the last minute with the Viet Dinh communist version of the bill.
So, I mean, this is a really good example.
Some information that people may not be all that aware of.
The USA Patriot Act removed about six of our amendments to the Bill of Rights.
That's a lot.
And it didn't stop there.
They continued with, we've got to remove habeas corpus, we've got to remove posse comitatus, we've got to invade your business records and your banking records and your medical privacy.
I don't think that The American people have a really firm grasp that they are having every aspect of their right to privacy absolutely invaded, because that's what this is about.
alex jones
And more than that, your film focuses heavily in on that.
It also focuses in on all the other police state aspects of PDD-51 and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act.
I mean, they're openly building FEMA camps.
They're openly saying they're getting ready for martial law.
Everything we warn people about with the guests we had and covert experts and secret documents 10, 15, 20, 30, 40 years ago, it's all come into fruition.
You know, they're bringing the crops in now.
I mean, this is a massive program, and your film covers that.
william lewis
Absolutely. And, you know, we got a great outpouring from the showing that we had last week on, or it was this past weekend, on Free Speech TV with people calling us up and just letting us know that they're going to support us and that they're going to get this information out there to other people.
We'd love to hear from you.
So, you know, the phone calls and the emails, don't let that stop.
You know, keep it up.
And email your friends and, you know, tell them what's going on, because obviously this is a documentary that's, you know, just a little different than some of the other ones we have to choose from out there.
alex jones
I'm going to have my producer call you and do that, and we really appreciate the fine work you've done with Washington, You're Fired, a film about political change in D.C., available right now at InfoWars.com.
We'll talk to you soon, William.
william lewis
Thanks, Alex.
alex jones
There goes William Lewis.
Folks, get Washington, You're Fired, a film about political change in D.C. today.
You need this video.
We need everybody to see it.
And this is great to wake up newcomers.
And like he said, it's jam-packed with solutions.
This is a film you need.
Washington, you're fired.
We'll be right back.
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We got Tex Mars in studio next week.
First learned about Michael A. Hoffman's work from Tex about 12 years ago.
Gave me some of his books.
I've read quite a few of them.
And he's only with us for an hour today.
He'll be with us for two hours coming up in the next few months.
I want to get him on because there's so many subjects and things he researches that I'm interested in.
And he's actually a good researcher.
He's actually very gentlemanly, very intelligent, and focuses in on things that he can prove and document it and does it in a very even-handed way.
A lot of people ask, why don't you have this person or that person on to talk about some of the same issues Mr. Hoffman does.
I don't because it's done so shoddily and it's done so mindlessly that a lot of times those people it turns out are working for the other side.
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I have researched a lot of the claims of Michael A. Hoffman, and he was educated at State University, New York College.
He's a former reporter for the New York Bureau of the Associated Press and other publications.
He's the author of several books and articles.
Including the UK-based magazine, 14 Times, and he's moved from New York to Idaho in 1996.
He now writes just on a whole host of subjects, the occult, the roots of Freemasonry, white slaves, you name it.
We're going to be talking about some of that today with him.
But like I said, I read other books by people similar to Mr. Hoffman.
And it just turned out being kooky, or lies, or weird, or exaggerated, or, you know, just very vitriolic, very tribalistic, very isolated little niches who all fight with other camps that are even very similar to themselves.
Just looking at his stuff, I just found that it's very well researched, and that's why even, you know, mainstream people that don't like Hoffman have to admit that he's accurate.
So that's why we've got him here, because he's serious, and we really appreciate Thank you, Alex.
michael a hoffman-ii
It's good to be here.
alex jones
There's a lot to talk about today.
A subject I've talked about because I've seen it in history books quite a bit, know quite a bit about it, but it seems like I tell the public about it and they think I'm lying.
Then I read some of your writings about it on your site and some of the things you recommended, and it was even more pervasive than I thought, and that was white slaves.
We never seem to hear about the white slaves.
Let's start there, then get into the New World Order, the whole occult system, their twilight language, the things you discovered.
michael a hoffman-ii
Well, the first thing about white slaves is we need to differentiate between the modern understanding of it and then the frame of reference that I'm dealing with.
Most people, when they hear about white slavery, they think you're talking about prostitution.
And that's, of course, a valid area of study.
We know that the Israelis have a large slave market there for people who have been sexually enslaved, but that's not my bailiwick.
What I'm concerned about is the enslavement of whites, both in Great Britain and in colonial America.
And you're absolutely right, this is an obscure, if not entirely unknown, theme in American history.
The reasons for that are multifarious, but let's start at the beginning.
At the beginning, You had a surplus population in England.
Now, just the word surplus is a pejorative because the population of white people should not be any kind of a problem.
If you have a large population, you should be able to utilize them, especially in a wealthy country such as Great Britain.
But there's no question that the theoreticians of predatory capitalism saw the poor whites as being a surplus.
And the question was what to do with them.
alex jones
Hence, Australia, New Zealand, the U.S., Canada.
michael a hoffman-ii
Yes, but we're going back to prior to the discovery and exploration of Canada and Australia, although Australia would become a white slave dumping ground after the American Revolution succeeded.
But prior to that, when you saw the beginning of the enclosure laws, it started under Henry VIII as he began to take over the monastic lands and the lands that historically had represented the divide between the church And the king,
and as he usurped that role for himself, you began to see avarice take hold in Great Britain as it seldom had in its past, and they began roping in and fencing in these large commons, as they were known, where... Hyper-feudalism!
alex jones
There would be large areas around each town that people communally used, and they upped the feudalism and even took that.
michael a hoffman-ii
Exactly, because feudalism, the term is also considered to be pejorative, but at least in the sense that the peasant in the Catholic Middle Ages of Great Britain was dressed in his own nice wool clothing, he had a sheep or a few sheep to raise, he had a standard of living that existed without usury and without inflation, and he was able to live a type of a life.
Once predatory capitalism began to build, and it wasn't a sudden phenomenon, it was gradual, of course, and Henry VIII was himself conflicted about it.
But we really see it come on with the victory of what I regard to be the predatory capitalist, which is the rise of the reign of Queen Elizabeth I. Now, she's a heroine.
In modern American media and in Europe and in the cinema and so forth, but there's a huge disparity between the documentary record on her and what the media portrays her as by these attractive actresses, and she's supposed to be sort of a free thinker, and she was nothing of the kind.
But the enclosure laws really came into force under her, and they would continue to do so successively with each aristocratic regime that came to the fore in Great Britain.
And what this meant was you needed a political theory to go along with it, to go along with how we were going to deal with these surplus whites who were being pushed off the land and driven into the cities, largely London.
And from that, we can go back as far as Heiklit, who is called a geographer, but that's actually a euphemism for political scientist.
And even more than that, but Heikl is known to be a geographer and he's the one that began...
alex jones
And we see them to develop what we call eugenics today, and I'm going to see if you agree with this, and that literally the whole system they built, then you have the Malthusian view that came a little bit later about everything about the state controlling these horrible dirty ruffians and exterminating them.
Please continue.
michael a hoffman-ii
Yes. Well, Reverend Thomas Malthus is at the turn of the 18th and beginning of the 19th centuries, but you're correct.
Malthus was also part of this chain of transmission because what he was doing was he was saying that population is a problem.
Now, what's unusual about that is usually when someone is talking about demographics and an enemy's demographics, they say, well, the enemy has too many people.
But for a nation to regard its own people as an enemy, this is largely unprecedented in the West.
And here we see a revolutionary break between what Western civilization had originally nurtured under Christianity and what was beginning to emerge with the rise of usury and predatory capitalism.
alex jones
Now let me stop you.
I want to be clear here.
You're not a...
Communist, from what I've read of yourself, you're explaining the different forms of capitalism, a strip mining of the society, a predator class where they feed on the lower population.
You're saying this is a period of blooming of that mindset.
We then have the Club of Rome 1993 document written by Richard and Haas, reissued last year by the Council on Foreign Relations publicly.
I don't know if you've seen this, Mr. Hoffman, But he says, this is public, he says, we must have a unifying order, terrorism will be one branch, and environmentalism the other, for the elite to use it and designate the world population as the enemy, humanity the enemy, with us the managers, managing, it's incredible quotes, have you seen those?
michael a hoffman-ii
I have not, but what you're describing is basically a symptom, an extreme symptom, of the final fulfillment of what I'm talking about in its mid-state of definition.
alex jones
Okay, please continue with the history.
I appreciate it.
Go ahead.
michael a hoffman-ii
But Thomas Malthus, in the late 18th century, saw the surplus whites as being a problem.
Now, he did not advocate birth control because Great Britain at that time was just too Christian.
And contraception, as my late colleague Charles Proven pointed out, historically was seen as the equivalent to sodomy or abortion.
So it was literally impossible for a clergyman to advocate contraception.
So what he advocated was this complex system of celibacy and bachelorhood, which obviously wasn't going to work.
alex jones
And also crowding people together and spreading disease.
michael a hoffman-ii
Yeah, yeah, and that's what was happening in London, but also in London from the Elizabethan age onward, the London mob, as it was called, had a revolutionary potential.
Great Britain, to its credit, had no standing army, it had no police force.
And there was a very thin line that stood between the ruling monarch and the people.
And the London mob was an obstreperous and vigorous group of people.
At any time, they were capable of overthrowing the government.
alex jones
And that went back to the Magna Carta.
michael a hoffman-ii
That went back to the Magna Carta.
And so what we began to see was the criminalization of the white population of the major cities of Great Britain and Scotland as well.
Scotland coming more to the fore in the 17th century.
Where you had, now people have asked me, what's the basis of the law here?
The law here was ad hoc.
The law was to take, what we see with the New World Order in the United States today, is to take one law and misapply it.
And where I find the beginnings of white slave law, number one in the enclosures, which drove them out, but the actual weaponization of the enclosures, that law relates to pressing, or the press gangs.
Once again, our media has dealt with this inadequately.
They almost make it romantic.
The sailors were forced onto the ships and then they got in.
alex jones
And I want to be clear about this.
Because you have scientifically broken down and written about what I organically have recognized.
They want to get you on welfare, get you in the psychiatric system, or get you in the criminal justice system, or get you in debt.
The form of slavery you're talking about is what the British really invented, in a modern sense, would be the debtor's prison, where, oh, and now they're saying under Homeland Security, bad credit, you'll have a bad security rating.
This is the new system where they create economic Right, because what they did was they pauperized the yeomanry.
michael a hoffman-ii
The yeomanry were willing to work.
They had worked for hundreds of years, sharing the commons, herding their sheep, and making at least a subsistence living.
And then they were pauperized, forced into the city, and then labeled as criminals.
And then you had the press gangs sweeping them up, and the press gangs operated in two ways.
Initially, they operated to populate these very early settlements in North America, and then later on they were used militarily to fill the ranks of the army and the navy.
But it began with Getting settlers to go to places like North America, which North America in the 17th century was regarded as an extremely hostile place.
And for example, I have traced back to some of the early English literature where a convict had a choice of being sentenced to transportation, that was the euphemism for white slavery, or to being hanged at Tyburn.
And he said, I've already talked to people who have been transported.
I've read some of the letters.
I've heard about what happened to them.
I would rather suffer suffocation at Tyburn Gallows for a minute or two than a lifetime of slavery in the colonies.
So here was the realization of two points.
One, that it was a living death over there.
And two, that it wasn't seven years of indentured servitude polishing the master's silverware in the big house and then being released as we're told.
Uh, that, that applied more to indentured servitude, which was a separate system.
alex jones
We're talking about chattel- And so mainline historians report that black slaves generally, because they were pure property, were better treated than white slaves, because the white slaves, you didn't even have to feed them, you could just let them die.
michael a hoffman-ii
Yeah, the, the white, the white slaves were treated much worse.
We even have as recently as the, uh, 1840s and 50s, when Frederick Law Olmsted, uh, The architect of Central Park went down south and wrote his classic work about his tour of the South, and he was watching a barge being loaded up with bales from a ship that had come in at the port of New Orleans,
and he saw that the bales were being thrown recklessly down into the barge, and the white men who were stacking the bales were at risk of serious injury, and he asked the overseer what was going on, and he said, oh, they're just paddies, meaning Irishmen, he said.
They're not worth anything.
We can always replace them.
And, uh, uh, Umstead asked him, well, what if they were blacks?
And he said, well, they cost us money.
We would have had to taken much greater care.
But, of course, when you're talking about slavery in America, Alex, you have to be careful because the situation changes dramatically from century to century.
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That's right.
alex jones
They actually trick the whites to go along with it because they at least, quote, were above the blacks.
And then it gets more sophisticated.
Please continue.
michael a hoffman-ii
But in the 17th century, You had even different crops that the white slaves had to work as opposed to the black slaves.
The white slaves were working after they did the land clearing, and land clearing is the most onerous labor that you can engage in on the frontier, draining the swamps, cutting down trees with hand axes.
And after all of that back-breaking labor was completed, then you had to tend to the tobacco crops and the sugar crops.
The sugar, mostly in the West Indies, the tobacco crops...
alex jones
Yeah, the way they described the white slaves was, it was like putting a goat out to mow your lawn.
They would just throw them out and, hey, survive, you form something, then we'll move in behind you with the black slaves.
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We're going to get into some really serious subjects next 30 minutes with our guest.
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This is just more of your study of how the elite control us.
That's why they're the elite.
I mean, they're into how to control societies, how to propagandize.
The average person's into wanting to have a new coat, or eat a big meal, or have a girlfriend, or go to the Bahamas once a year, or maybe just stay out of prison.
And they rule over us, and next hour I want to get into what their mindset is, what you believe they're planning, and how the whole Germanic death cult, occultism, ties in with the Kabbalistic mysticism of the Jews, because people say it's either a totally Zionist thing, or it's a Catholic thing, or it's a...
From what I've studied, it's a satanic thing, but we'll get your whole analysis of that, sir, but finishing up with the white slaves.
michael a hoffman-ii
Well, we were talking about their use initially in colonial America for land clearing and stoop labor, and only afterwards were the blacks brought in.
And of course, I don't want to minimize in any way the pain, suffering, and hardship that black people endured as chattel slaves in America.
The thing is that most of us are aware of that, and very few of us are aware of what the whites went through.
When Congressman David Wilmot and the Free Soil Party threw its support behind Abraham Lincoln, Uh, the reason that they did so was is that they were very worried that the southern plantation owners were going to put blacks and black slaves in Oregon and California and they wanted to reserve the west for free white labor.
And they called themselves, the Free Soil Party and Congressman David Wilmot, the Sons of Toil.
And nowadays, when someone raises a shirt in a movie and shows whiplashes on his back, it's usually a black man who's been abused by a white overseer, Alex.
But I can assure you in colonial America, and I've documented it, That there were many hundreds of white men who also had those whiplashes on their back, and of course we know in the military and in the Navy, they received fatal whiplashings, up to 200 lashings.
alex jones
Well, that's something that I got, you know, really into, just, uh, it was so interesting, was the naval histories of the Napoleonic Wars, the sea battles, British naval history, and that was some of the big reforms in England that finally ended pressing, was that the, uh, the, the midshipmen, the officers...
I think your cordless phone's cuttin' out there, my friend.
If you've got a regular line, it'd be better.
Wood, just walk around for no reason, beating people with whips, not just for cat-or-nine-tail punishment.
Go ahead.
michael a hoffman-ii
Well, of course, the service in the Navy, especially the Napoleonic-era Navy, which is made to be so very romantic now in movies like Master and Commander, you couldn't get guys to serve on those ships, so you had to press them in, and in order to maintain order and discipline, you had to use the lash.
It's unfortunate in the film Master and Commander, which was otherwise a very well done piece of cinema, that they passed over except for one brief conversation between the ship's doctor and the captain about how the fact that the crew there, between one-third and two-thirds of them, would have been press ganged white slaves on board that ship.
But my point I was trying to make earlier, Alex, was that White men and women in America are the sons and daughters of toil.
alex jones
Stay there.
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