Alex Jones and Larry Pratt dissect a December 2007 gun control bill, falsely claiming the NRA supports it while arguing the Brady system mirrors England's failed bans. They allege the legislation targets 20% of citizens via psychological designations, linking mercury vaccines to behavioral improvements and accusing the ATF of criminality. With guests like Aaron Zellman, they warn of a "New World Order" agenda aiming to exterminate 80% of humanity through disarmament, urging listeners to join Gun Owners of America to resist this alleged global enslavement. [Automatically generated summary]
Congress has approved the first major gun control legislation in more than a decade, broadening background checks for gun buyers in the wake of a deadly campus shooting earlier this year by a mentally ill student.
What does this really mean?
It expands the federal database control, and it allows the government to take now 20% of the population that's been given some type of psychological designation, It'll of course expand that in the future and restrict your gun ownership rights.
This has been dubbed the Veterans and Police Disarmament Act.
Just like a bunch of police lost their jobs when they passed the Domestic Violence Act.
That just means that the standard operating procedure of your wife putting a restraining order on you when she initiates a divorce, no violence, no threats be needed, that you can't own guns and you lose your job.
And of course, a lot of people snickered about that and said it wasn't going to happen, and it indeed did.
The Supreme Court ruled that that was unconstitutional.
I don't know how to explain it, getting up and moving around.
But I think I'm doing it to my detriment.
I was having earaches last night so bad, I couldn't sleep.
But I'm here live, ladies and gentlemen, and I should get my... I feel like when an engine hasn't been started in a while, I should get into my form and get cranking, get moving.
Coming up here, ladies and gentlemen, throughout the transmission today, we're going to try to get Larry Pratt on to comment, or maybe JP, I thought we'd get Aaron Zellman to pop in and talk about this.
And I've been telling you, the Second Amendment's under attack like never before.
I've been trying to raise the alarm bells.
I've been trying to warn people and talk more about it the last few months.
Brace yourselves for a Supreme Court ruling against the Second Amendment.
They're coming, they're not playing games, and they're going to move against us in a big way.
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Didn't feel too good driving home at 10 o'clock at night.
But, uh, I was just invited to that, so I'm sorry if that was part of the billing and I'm going to be there.
I'm not going to be there.
Um, Congress slams Second Amendment.
The U.S.
Congress has approved the first major gun control legislation in more than a decade, broadening background checks, i.e.
federal control, for gun buyers in the wake of a deadly campus shooting earlier this year by a mentally ill student.
Now, he'd already been adjudicated mentally ill.
It had already been put in the database.
And you're never going to stop these people.
They've had shootings in the last two weeks at bus stops and shopping malls.
You can't put a cop on every corner.
And then sometimes they go crazy and shoot people.
They're human beings too.
The legislation approved Wednesday by the Senate provides government funds to improve the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.
The main way gun purchases are monitored in America.
It also allocates funds for gun owners and potential gun owners who are prevented from owning weapons due to mental illness so that they may challenge it in court.
Now, if you actually read the bill, you see, the average person reading this, it sounds reasonable.
You actually read the bill, it's just like the Vaccine Damage Fund, billions of dollars.
It's their own special federal court system run by them.
And maybe one out of a thousand people who have their brain eaten by this stuff get a quiet payout of a couple hundred grand.
Their fantasy land, and living in that fantasy land, and continuing that candy land fantasy land, is more important to them than our Second Amendment heritage and the very linchpin of liberty.
These people make me literally sick.
They're always smiley-faced.
They're always doe-eyed.
They always think they're conservative.
They're enemies of the Republic.
Improving the background check system and culling erroneous records will help curb the number of firearms that get into the hands of troubled individuals.
See, now it's troubled individuals.
Lay, he said.
In April, a mentally deranged gunman shot and killed 31 people.
He was on a serotonin reuptake inhibitor.
He'd been in psychiatric care.
And then himself at Virginia Tech University, the police stood down for more than three hours, I would add.
Sparking widespread calls for tighter gun control laws.
Yeah, every time.
Just always more, more, more.
The shooter, South Korean-born Cho, 23, an English major, brought two handguns.
He would have the police and professors recognize that he was mentally disturbed.
The campus shooter made it clear that the background check system for potential gun buyers needs to have better information, better technology, and clearer standards.
It's Representative John Dingell.
A Democrat who co-authored the bill that passed in the House in June.
The measure, which added a number of changes after the House version passed, was supported by the powerful gun lobby, who have supported every gun bill in U.S.
history.
Every gun bill that's passed.
The National Rifle Association, or the National Registry of American Firearm Owners.
I'm being sarcastic there.
Let me think of a good acronym to make fun of them.
Roundup of Arms.
What's a good acronym for them?
See, but you can't tell a good ol' boy that the NRA is the actual father of gun control.
They're not ready to learn that.
They can't believe that Bush is going to sign this.
They will when they hear he signs it say they support it, though.
See, they want to feel like they're winners.
So they just agree with whatever wins, you see.
They've got it all figured out, don't they?
That's why you're going to have your dollar destroyed and your 401k is destroyed and that's why you're going to end up complete slaves and you're still going to love the mainstream media and the people that did it to you while it happens.
The measure which added a number of changes after the House version passed was supported by the powerful Gun control, anti-gun organization, I would add.
They don't say that.
Powerful gun lobby, the National Rifle Association, NRA, and now awaits President George W. Bush's signature to become law.
The end product is a win for American gun owners, the NRA said in a statement describing the measure as pro-gun legislation.
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Oh yeah, sure it is.
Expanded federal control and an attack on veterans and gun owners.
Kind of like they're going to build a border fence and they just cut the funding out of that.
Yesterday, too, while you're busy sucking your thumbs and that rather than acting stylish and putting your W stickers on your cars.
A number of safeguards were built in legislation so that people who have overcome a disqualifying mental illness or disability may reclaim their rights.
Oh, they may at the discretion of the federal board.
I've got ownership through federal relief from disabilities programs.
Kind of like New York said 50 years ago, don't worry, you can get a permit, and then it's been in the news, you've got to give on average about $30,000 for political campaigns, and then really all that has guns are billionaires and known mafia dons.
When you got out of prison, if you'd been arrested with guns, they gave you your guns back.
They had a lot lower crime rate back then, by the way, too.
But if you'd done something violent, you were going to hang high for it.
Now, when we get back, I'll tell you what's going to happen.
A new reign is upon us.
And, uh, get ready for scores of states and cities to come after your guns.
We're gonna call it the War on Illegal Guns, and it's gonna make the drug war look like a tea party.
Get ready!
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Let me break down how this is going to happen.
Remember, this shows both parties are together.
They vote together on open borders, they vote together on amnesty, they vote together on the wars, they vote together on every issue and every policy that the globalists want in place.
In fact, the government, state, local, federal, is consistently on the polar opposite end of where the people are and, it just so happens, where the Constitution and Bill of Rights are.
That's what happens in the Constitutional Bill of Rights when the people are given a choice as to what they choose.
Though the public's dumbed down and doesn't know the basics of how society operates, they know they're being lied to and they know that they want more freedom.
And so we're going to end up probably with Hillary Clinton, unless there's a miracle and Ron Paul gets elected and we should push for that as hard as we can.
Imagine Hillary with all three branches of the government under her control.
You go, well, wait a minute, they've got, you know, seven of the nine Republicans in the Supremes.
They keep voting almost exactly as Hillary does.
Just like Bush does.
I mean, he'll have some rhetoric about stem cells, or rhetoric about global warming, and then meanwhile he's signing on to all of it.
That's it.
They'll have a few football issues.
But now, don't go in gun shops and tell them this is more gun control.
They'll tell you to get out of their shop.
They'll tell you, hail Bush, repeatedly, and they will just stick their head in the dirt.
At least some of them will.
And they've already given in.
You talk to gun shop owners and go, yeah, we know it's going to be banned soon, whatever, I'm moving into a vitamin business.
Or I'm moving into a fish bait business, huh?
Yeah, I know, we're going to lose it, huh?
There's nothing you can do.
And that's why we're losers.
That's why we're losing this country, is it's that type of attitude.
They're just dirtbag little merchants.
Who just want to make money.
Not all of them, but a lot of them.
And I've had gun shops gripe at me and say, how dare you say the NICS is a registration system?
That scares people off.
It does register you as a gun owner.
And they can, whenever they want, get those records and they'll find out exactly what you want.
And now this expands those databases.
Instead of 160, 170 million gun owners getting involved, getting mobilized, getting our Second Amendment back, you've decided to just cowardly roll over, and I better not make waves.
Well, as soon as you have that attitude, it's over!
You understand?
As soon as you roll over, as soon as you bend over, as soon as you start trying to lick boots, people are gonna, people that like to have their boots licked, are gonna come up and say, okay, lick my boots!
I'm talking to that 10% that listens because they hate me.
I'm talking about that 10% that won't admit how deep the tyranny has gotten.
Well, you just remember next year, they're going to come out and say, yeah, you got a second amendment when prescribed by law.
And they're going to pass DC style gun bans, coast to coast.
And you're going to submit.
You'll turn your guns in.
A lot of these good old boys out there will start saying, well, maybe we don't need them.
I'd still have a shotgun if I have all my paperwork in order.
They'll submit.
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Thank you, Glenn.
Nice to be with you.
Okay.
You're on the campaign trail, which is the reason why you're not in the studio now, and I want to get to some of your more controversial positions later on in the program, but I thought we would start on a few of the things that I almost never see anybody talk about with you, the real things that most conservatives do agree with you on.
I want to start by playing a clip of something you said just last week in the debate in Iowa.
Reread the oath of office, take it seriously, obey the Constitution.
We are well defended against all enemies foreign.
We should be much more careful about defending against the enemies domestic.
Who, sir, do you believe are the enemies domestic?
I don't see them as individuals or personalities.
I see it as a philosophic danger endorsed by the status quo.
Most members of Congress, most members who have been in the executive branch over the years, the undermining of our personal economic liberties, our personal liberties, our privacy.
There's been a special erosion of these privacy issues since 9-11.
So something's been ingrained in our system.
Economic liberty is very, very important, but that's been undermined for 70 or 80 years, especially since the Depression.
So I see him in philosophic terms rather than in personality terms.
Let me go to the UN.
You say the UN shouldn't even exist.
Well, I don't have any saying about whether they should exist or not.
I just am arguing that it's not in our best interest to be in the U.N.
The very first thing the U.N.
did after World War II was they took us to war.
I mean, Truman went to war, didn't even tell the Congress.
And, you know, we're still in Korea.
And, you know, the Constitution is very clear.
Only Congress can declare war.
A lot of men died over there.
So I don't like going to war under the U.N.
banner.
You say the choice is very clear.
We either follow the Constitution or submit to U.N.
global governance.
I happen to agree with you, sir.
I mean, I see the Lost Treaty.
I see the issue of global warming as nothing but trying to entangle us and the rest of the world into one world government.
Would you agree or disagree with that?
No, no, I agree with it.
I think our trade agreements do the same thing.
You know, whether it's the WTO or, you know, the World Bank or the IMF or NAFTA or CAPTA, these are taking away our sovereignty.
Even today, the WTO today was telling us that we shouldn't pass this agriculture bill.
I'll probably, you know, not vote for the agriculture bill, but should I do it because the WTO tells me not to?
So I don't like this undermining of our national sovereignty, and we've allowed this to You have said, though, that this is not some, if I may quote you, it is not as much a sinister conspiracy, the knowledge is out there, if you just look for it, you realize that our national sovereignty is under threat, but I have to tell you, we're going to get into economics here in a few minutes, but when you look at both parties, You will see them.
I mean, look at the budget that has recently come out.
You'll see that they are almost intentionally sabotaging us every step of the way.
How else could you explain some of the things that are going on at the border with the lost treaty, with our budget, our monetary policies?
I mean, how do you say it's not a sinister conspiracy?
Yeah, I guess it may be semantics that we're dealing with, but I see it as a conspiracy in the sense that some people believe in globalism, some people believe in the North American Union, I don't.
It used to be more secretive, you know, the New World Order was talked about 30 or 40 years ago.
And nobody would say it out in open.
Now they talk about the New World Order, so it's not as secretive and it's not as conspiratorial as it was 50 or 60 years ago.
People believe in internationalism and I think they're very sincere.
They just think the world would be better off if we had one world government.
I don't.
I mean, I don't even like the size of our federal government, let alone one world government.
I want government to be local.
I've tried to explain this in a chapter, the last chapter of... So there you go.
Glenn Beck will say he's against the New World Order, but then he will support almost every policy of it.
He will support the politicians that are pushing it.
And then two weeks ago, he would say Ron Paul supporters are domestic enemies, and later he brings that up.
So, there's Glenn Beck saying he's against all these things, but then saying the people that are fighting it are violent, and then later in the show he says, I'm getting threats by your listeners.
I'm getting threats by your supporters.
Well, any radio show, any TV show of any size is going to get threats.
And so he goes on air and he goes, your supporters.
I mean, he could have even been one of Beck's people doing that for all we know.
Kind of like black folks putting swastikas on their own dorms or Jews doing it.
And nine times out of ten they end up catching it, and it is the very person claiming that this is being done to them that's doing it.
So I would say Beck is one of the main people we should look at in all this.
But Beck complains of threats, yet wanted to kill Michael Moore.
This is from PrisonPlanet.com by Stephen Paul Watson yesterday.
That complains of threats yet wanted to kill Michael Moore.
This is what an incredible hypocrite this guy is.
Ron Paul appeared on Glenn Beck's CNN show last night for a full hour in what was, it has to be said, a fair interview.
Rare as that concept has been in the past, where Beck is concerned, however, Beck couldn't resist straying away from Paul's campaign issues towards the end of the interview in order to complain that he was receiving several death threats from people who claimed to support Paul.
And by the way, I disagree with the Watsons.
I don't think it was a fair interview.
And again, I say that because he did some unfair things in there and That's what Beck does.
He'll act real normal to get that huge audience that tuned in to get him hooked and then he'll be back to saying people that need to be arrested by next week.
The thinly veiled attack was clearly designed to suggest that Ron Paul's supporters are dangerous and that this reflects on his policies, a smear tactic Beck has previously used and one that most likely landed him with said threats in the first place.
A bemused Ron Paul was of course According to condemning any threat of violence despite not having any knowledge of what Beck was referring to.
However, now you notice Beck didn't come out two weeks ago and said he was getting threats.
He talked about how people should be put in camps.
He said we were with Islamofascists.
He said we should have the military used on us.
How we were violent.
And then now he says he has emails that he's gotten since then proving what he said.
Well, it's violent, Beck, to say we should be arrested or have the military used on us.
You are a petty tyrant.
Believe me, folks, Beck would wear a black uniform and be very happy to rule over all of us.
Okay?
But me and Ron Paul was... because, I mean, look, you get one of these mainline New World Order people on CNN or even Fox where they're out in the open, establishment, we just know they're the enemy.
Beck is particularly evil because he cloaks and decloaks right in front of us.
The muse Rob Hall was, of course, cornered into condemning any threat of violence.
That's a lawyer tactic.
I'd have gone back.
Don't use that lawyer tactic.
Everybody gets threats on the Internet.
Despite not having any knowledge of what Beck was referring to, however, it is quite impossible to have any sympathy for Beck, given the fact that not only does he regularly regurgitate the kill those darn Islamos before they kill us mantra, but also personally threaten to kill people whose views he condemns, namely, those of filmmaker Michael Moore.
Credit goes to Blogspot, Real Truth Hell Online, reporting out that on May 17, 2005, Beck on his radio show said the following, Hang on!
Let me just tell you what I'm thinking.
I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore.
And I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it.
No, I think I could.
I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking The life out of him.
Is that wrong?
I stopped wearing my, what would Jesus band do, and I lost all sense of right and wrong now.
I used to be able to say, yeah, I'd kill Michael Moore, and then I'd see that little band, what would Jesus do, and then I'd realize, oh no, you wouldn't want to kill Michael Moore.
Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death, and you know, well, I'm not sure.
We'll actually just play that for people because they won't believe it if we just read it.
Imagine having Michael Medved say that I've heard twice, and I'm told it's a weekly occurrence, that I should be arrested, investigated, incarcerated, that I should be imprisoned.
That guy's powerful.
He's on like 300 radio stations.
He's on some of the biggest stations in the country.
Do you know what that's like?
That he publicly goes to the White House and is given talking points.
That he admittedly is an operative for the Republican Party.
They didn't triple the size of the BATF and get them a building twice its size in D.C.
that just opened last year to play TiddlyWinks.
The Supreme Court's taken up gun restriction bill.
And they're going to rule against the Second Amendment.
Brace yourselves.
I told you they were going to pass this latest legislation for total federal registration, control, banning about one-third of our military and one-third of our police from running firearms.
They're going to try to selectively enforce and still let cops keep it.
That's even in the bill.
Republicans had that added in because law enforcement groups were freaking out.
But it just shows you where this is going.
And the article about it even says, oh, it's pro-gun.
The Infernal NRA.
Founded for gun control, by and for gun control.
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And you just can't get an NRA member to understand that.
I think it was 179 mainstream stories with that headline.
So that's a big push right now.
But they know the general idiot public, the same ones that think the NRA isn't a gun control group.
So they just can't... They'll hear that, and, oh, he's with a white supremacist.
He was with a gold heist.
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But every week, knowingly, Dr. Dean Adele, nationwide, every, because I listen every week, because I'm driving in Sunday when he's rebroadcasting locally, and the last few weeks, like the last five weeks, every week, he just announces there is no mercury in vaccines.
It's an insane conspiracy.
It's not, now he knows as a medical doctor, In all the vaccines, in fact, the AP reported two years ago that they quadrupled, on average, actually five times.
That's like, if you're not allergic to being shot in the head with a .45 hollow point, then go ahead and shoot yourself in the head with a .45 hollow point if you're not allergic.
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Now even if you hate Michael Moore, and I've confronted him about covering up 9-11's, saying it was just an accident, But the government was just idiots instead of carrying out the attacks, but I wouldn't call for killing.
And these talk show hosts, Neil Bortz, Michael Medved, it is my wish that if anybody ever does shoot and kill me, one of these nuts and they're out there, that they be questioned.
The cops will try to cover it up.
And there's a good chance they would have heard about this.
It'll be some mainline right-wing lunatic.
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I want to make sure that these guys are all sued for it.
We've probably played this clip 30 plus times in the last four years or so.
And John just went and got the computer, and it's been corrupted.
But luckily, it's online, so we're finding it again.
It's local CBS News, but it was a national news feed, and this aired all over the country, where they said Mercury, the new study show, is good for your brain.
Of course, the study didn't really say that.
It doesn't matter to these people.
And there was one a few months ago where MSNBC was saying that Poison food and lead paint on toys was good for America?
He's trying to find that right now.
Because I know if we can't play it for you, you're not going to believe us.
Who would believe it?
But Murphy's Law is both those clips have been corrupted.
Out of thousands on the computer, it's those clips.
Shalob V. Bob in Florida, then we'll go to Richard and many others.
I've actually just came across you for the first time like a month ago.
And it's I got your name and your website from a guy out of Canada.
And I've been putting together a website for the past two years on all this information and really never kind of came across your information.
But, and it's funny, you know, again I was listening to you the other day, and was hearing how you were saying you felt like you were unappreciated and alone, and I tell you, you're not.
Well, I mean I've been under the weather so that tends to lean towards dark thoughts, but at the same time, I know I'm not alone with the listeners or individuals out there, but You're right.
You're right.
I talk to people about it all the time.
patriot movement liberal movement conservative movement I've studied all of the stuff these people put out and very few get the really big picture you're right you're right I talk to people about all the time they just do do not get it well I mean even people that think they get it's the point I'm making is that they don't have a kind of a wide spectrum analysis or they're so limited they don't see the big picture I know I know I
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And you know, what we really need to do is duplicate you times a million to get this word out.
I mean, so many people... A million toad-like creatures!
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Yeah, yeah.
Imagine that.
Imagine you everywhere.
But it would make a big impact.
And people, when they hear it, they think you're nuts.
But when they see it, the whole attitude changes.
And that's the thing.
There's so many people that are blinded to what's really going on out there That it's, you know, even me, I mean, you know, after 9-11, I paid real close attention, but when I came across these theories, I thought it was impossible.
Not in the United States, not in America.
It's impossible.
Until I woke up and I looked at the evidence.
And just, you know, you can't dispute what you see.
It's basic common sense in most of the stuff that's out there.
But it's stuff you'll never see on the television.
You know, the big thing I see as the greatest threat facing us is the unchecked, out-of-control genetic engineering that's going on, the cross-species splicing of plant-animal together, the admissions that it's giving rise to superviruses and superbacteria that are already among us.
And you look at all the bad spin-off side effects of things that were primitive, like antibiotics.
Or things along those lines.
And then you start trying to magnify what it's going to do.
All the things they're engaging in.
The world really is out of control.
The globalists control the world financial system.
They think they're in control.
When you really get down to brass tacks with what they're doing, they are out of control.
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Alarming words for our time!
But how do you protect your family during such a crisis?
The video sheltering in place surviving acts of terrorism from biological, chemical, and radioactive fallout was developed by Wayne LeBaron, a health physicist who has served as a specialist in environmental health, communicable diseases, and has worked as a nuclear specialist for the U.S.
I don't know why I get into this detail, but most of the stuff you see on local ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, local affiliates, they're pre-packaged.
The video's pre-packaged.
The teleprompter text is pre-packaged.
It's important to understand this was a national program.
But they had the local anchors read off the teleprompter as the video played.
Fred Cantu and Sheila Mathers.
And I googled this three or four years ago, the headline, and found it in every CBS affiliate in the country.
So a lot of times you think it's the local anchors you quote trust, because Americans don't trust national anchors, but they tend to trust locals.
Those locals are like puppets, folks.
They're just repeating what was put in their mouth about half the time, and almost always if it's a national story.
Again, why can't locals report on national stories from their own position?
Because they might do a story about mercury being bad.
But if it's all the medical stuff is handed down from CBS Broadcast Center, literally founded by the Central Intelligence Agency, you're going to have control.
So, listen carefully.
They say, mercury-containing vaccines help your brain.
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There have been warrants by concerns that mercury-based preservatives in vaccines might impair the neurological development of children.
These new studies suggest that the opposite, that the preservatives may actually be associated with improved behavior and mental performance.
Here's a more recent one about how poison in food and lead in toys is good for America and how dare you criticize it?
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About inflation, that's another interesting point because a lot of people like to say, uh, scaremonger about China, right?
A lot of politicians, and I know you talk about that issue all the time.
I think people should be careful what they wish for on China.
You know, if China were to revalue its currency, or if China is to start making, say, toys that don't have lead in them, or food that isn't poisonous, their costs of production are going to go up.
And that means prices at Walmart here in the United States are going to go up too.
So, I would say China is our greatest friend right now.
They're keeping prices low, and they're keeping prices for mortgages low too.
And then they responded, and you can watch the longer clip online on MSNBC, that was the CNBC financial contributor, that lady works for CNBC, and they respond to her like that was a normal statement.
And by the way, she was told to say that.
See, they're testing now.
They're testing with the absurd right now.
And a lot of the public are going, hey, torture's good, secret arrest is good, no more warrants are good, lead is good, mercury is good.
Open borders are good.
And so they've just, I mean, it's like Fox News.
I've been sent clips we can't even play here now on their overnight show where they're talking about all forms of disgusting, I mean, things I can't even mention here on air.
And it's all sex.
And it's for all these poor people with Alzheimer's, literally getting Alzheimer's, who are just watching that.
And then they have morning shows where they say, torture people to death, it's good, ha ha ha.
I mean, folks, that's about you.
See, as soon as you accept that, you know, the old-fashioned fuddy-duddies who built this country could march up a hill and all of them get killed, but just a couple.
Or they could drag through the snow giant guns off a mountaintop they took and literally walk 20 miles a day through the snow, leaving a bloody track behind them.
You can't do that.
But they get real freaked out and upset over somebody saying they were going to spy on them.
They get real freaked out and upset over somebody telling them Mercury was good for them.
They get real freaked out and upset over somebody coming after their guns.
And you tell them, oh, just be reasonable.
All these neocons that are always pushing and losing our rights.
In New Orleans and surrounding areas, if you watch Marine Corps training drills, which are here in the U.S., they make a point of training to take over people's homes and kick you out.
Well, they specifically train, the government trains to attack and overturn the Bill of Rights.
That's their main enemy.
NORTHCOM and the U.S.
military's main enemy is the American people.
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Well, I'm sitting here looking at the amendments and, you know, I went through all of them.
I know that the Fifth Amendment due process went out during the War on Drugs when they started Seizing people's property without any trials whatsoever.
And then it came out, the Dallas Police Department thousands of times would just pull over a nice car, throw a bag of chalk in the back, and they would just take it.
In the finest area of town, more than half the bars are owned by cops.
Because the cops will sell each other crack.
Now, they don't even sell it to someone.
And then they take the bar, and then the cops own it themselves.
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But go ahead.
Well, there it is.
That's exactly it.
And now they're doing it on prostitution.
I mean, they've expanded that to where if you get caught doing any number of crimes, they'll take your car.
And it goes on and on.
You know, just listening to you, I had a couple of other quick things, you know, about the mercury and about people saying, well, genetically modified organisms are not a problem, this is good for us.
You know, Monsanto keeps telling us this, and those are the people that gave us DDT and Agent Orange and all the rest of that.
You know, we have one in, what is it, 166 children now have autism.
Be sure and go out and take a training seminar with that shotgun.
And the main thing is go over safety over and over again, but I'm sure your son's professional and smart about it.
But just always keep it aimed at the ground, and go out and shoot it over and over again until you get familiar with it.
It's really no big deal.
Hollywood gives you this image of a 12-gauge as this big powerful thing that, you know, the old lady pulls the trigger and she flies back through the wall.
The key is you just pull that butt of that gun into your shoulder and it's nothing.
I mean, I've seen people freaking out shooting 7mm Magnums and super high-powered rifles and 50 cals and I don't know what they're talking about.
As long as you pull that sucker into your shoulder, it does nothing.
Now, if you take a high-powered rifle, and you hold that thing about a centimeter off your shoulder, it is going to knock the living tar out of you.
All right, we'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, with more Your Calls.
I'm Alex Jones, your host.
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Ho, ho, ho.
Santa, when I grow up, I want to be an inventor!
Oh, no, little girl.
Not that.
Not in Utah.
You could end up like Paul Pantone.
Who is Pantone?
Paul Pantone invented a wonderful system called DEEP to double or triple gas mileage and reduce car pollution by over 90%.
Many people are experimenting with it all over the world today.
Wow!
Then Paul refused to sell control of Geek to some very bad men, so you know what they did?
What, Santa?
They conspired with more bad men in court to destroy Paul and swipe Geek anyway.
They lied about Pantone and framed him for securities fraud.
Oh dear!
His lawyer sold out and said Paul was crazy.
Then Judge Royal Hanson was bad and sent Paul Pantone to the Utah State Mental Hospital.
Hanson ordered Paul to take deadly drugs that also ruin his thinking.
Hanson even refused to let Paul have the good lawyer Paul's friends found to help save him.
Santa, isn't everyone supposed to have the lawyer they want?
Judge Royal Hanson doesn't think so.
Oh my!
So Paul got an appeal and refused to take the bad drugs.
The people at the state hospital didn't like that and treated Paul very badly.
They made him walk on a broken foot for over a year.
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He was even strapped into a chair with very little pain medicine as the dentist drilled.
Many teeth rotted, fell out, or broke in half.
Paul caught a deadly disease called Hepatitis C. The hospital didn't give Paul any medicine to treat it.
So Paul Pantone, the inventor who tried to help everyone, now spends every day an innocent prisoner in pain, dying from neglect and abuse at the Utah State Hospital.
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He said, yeah, if I get big enough, if this movement gets big enough, it was already exponentially growing then.
Well, I think Alex, more than anything else, the intelligence people are patriots.
I know a lot of them.
You probably know quite a few as well.
And as you know, the people who join the intelligence community, more than anything else, they love their country and they want to serve their country.
And what they're seeing, you know, with the Bilderbergers and such, is this creation of a global network of giant cartels, more powerful than any nation on the planet, destined to control the necessities of life of the rest of humanity, who do not work for the country and do not represent our and their interests.
Which is why they're so absolutely paranoid of what might happen if this man gets eliminated.
Because again, we have to do something now.
We're at the end of the end.
This isn't the beginning of the end.
Unless we can do something over a very short term, the window of opportunity to get this world back is closing rapidly.
I mean, you're looking at the oligarchy, which is basically, essentially, a private criminal enterprise, which stretches across the globe, operating through a network of government agencies, private institutions, and both publicly owned and private corporations and financial institutions.
Now, this extended network, and you and I have talked about this before, stretches all the way back to the Middle Ages.
Again, this is what used to be called the family's fondio funds.
You know, oligarchical families and their monies pulled together for maximum effect and deployed through a network of financial institutions, which hide their origins from the unsuspecting public.
And again, unless people see it, they don't believe it, which is what the mass media entertainment has done to us.
And they will laugh in our face, the people, because they can't see that beyond the reality of a television set.
There is another reality, far more terrifying and far more real.
And that is what you and I have been doing, trying to get this reality out.
Well, I think again, Alex, to go back to the tried-and-true cliché, I think it's the people are leading this fight, and the European Constitution, which was actually not a constitution, it's a watered-down version of a constitution, was signed yesterday, I believe, in Lisbon.
It only goes to show you that they couldn't ram it through the Europeans.
Because the French and the Dutch said absolutely no, so what they've done is they've created another version which basically bypasses people's votes and goes right to the technocrats and their opinion making.
Well, you know, if you read the European press, what they're basically telling you is that we are very, very lucky, we the people in Europe, that we don't have to worry about these trivial, tridle, you know, piddly things such as the Constitution, and we can just go on and do our things and let the bureaucrats and the politicians take care of all these other things which we supposedly don't want anything to do with.
Of course, that is not exactly the case, because again, the European Constitution, or whatever this document that they're calling it is, it has destroyed the concept of nation-states, it has destroyed the concept of national constitutions, because now, as of this very moment, the European Constitution takes precedence Well, it certainly is.
It's the same thing they're doing with the American Union.
I want you to talk about, as you did on Coast to Coast AM a month ago with me, and George, about how they've already got Blackwater up there running security in Canada.
The merger is already happening with our guest Daniel Estill and his new book, published in the U.S.
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We just played a little bit of my interview with Daniel Escalon.
While I was trying to get my throat back in order to go on air, Again, why am I doing the show while I've got a really bad sore throat and earaches?
Who knows why?
I mean, really because the Second Amendment is under big-time attack, and it is the 20th day of December 2007.
We've got Larry Pratt and Aaron Zellman joining us coming up in the next hour.
For those that don't know, Congress slams the Second Amendment, passes a huge expansion of federal gun control on to anybody who's ever had post-traumatic stress disorder, anybody who's ever had ADHD, all these fake disorders.
They create hundreds a year.
Literally, one year they create like 150 new ones.
They've got lots of disorders for not trusting authority or questioning the government.
We really are living in complete and total la-la land.
I've got some other important reports here.
Karl Rove worried about Ron Paul momentum.
That's an interesting story up on the site.
Also, experts say world population will explode by 2025 with influx of megacities of 10 million people or more.
But Taj Mahal is saying they're not going to accept American dollars anymore because they're too debased in value.
They will only accept the rupee.
See, no longer the world reserve currency, now dying.
If you tell the average arrogant yuppie that, they just snicker at you and go, yeah!
They think sneering is half the battle.
FBI agents skip court orders to spy on cell phone users.
Wired Magazine, they're just now getting around to telling everybody that they don't use warrants in regular cases either.
Of course they don't!
Whoever told you they did?
So, also FBI now admits to evidence used to connect Oswald to Kennedy assassination was bogus.
Karl Rove is not just worried about Ron Paul, he's worried about Iran, and there's another top CIA agent saying the US and Israel are still considering hitting Iran before the next election.
And I think that's still on the table, though Globally, it's very unpopular, and though they're trying to de-escalate in some quarters, Israel's saying they may go ahead and hit Iran.
If Iran as much as fires a BB gun back at them, the defense treaty with Israel will kick in, the media will say, how dare Iran fire back as their country's bombed into oblivion.
See, where's common sense gone, too?
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A lot of Americans will say, how dare them Iranians fire back?
Coming up the next hour, Congress slams Second Amendment.
Again, the U.S.
Congress has approved the first major gun control legislation in more than a decade, broadening background checks, it's really federal registration, and adding anyone who's quote, been troubled, any type of psychological designation, Which they hand out like lollipops when you got your hair cut when you were a kid.
It's just, oh, you're this, you're that, you've got this problem, you've got that problem.
Oh, this is great, I get these happy pills for no reason.
And it's all paid for by my insurance.
Yeah, it's paid for by your insurance, Mac.
You're being sucked in.
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Okay, who should I go to first here?
Skip in California.
You're on the air, Skip.
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Hey, I just saw a film on on Google video called Fiat Empire, and I want to suggest that you start carrying it because it's basically a documentary version of The Creature from Jekyll Island.
Ron Paul and G. Edward Griffin are in there, so definitely a good film to add to your library.
Well, that's what's so great about this Ron Paul revolution that's happening right now.
It comes at the perfect time as people are more angry and disgruntled and upset with the system than ever.
And so there's tens of thousands of these meet-up groups that have formed, hundreds of thousands of members, and you can go on and form local groups to defend the Second Amendment, or form local groups to defend the national sovereignty against the border invaders.
There is so much we can do and now is the time.
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That's right.
I just wanted to throw an idea out there.
One of the ideas that we came up with at my group was for $70 around there you can get a remote controllable blimp.
And what we want to do is start getting those that come like the Ron Paul blimp and then take them to different farmers markets or wherever you Uh, campaign for Ron Paul and fly it around.
It'll get, uh, the attention of kids that see it, will want to try it out.
And, you know, maybe some of their parents will come over and talk to you about Ron Paul.
But I also thought, what a great way to go to, like, any kind of a rally for Giuliani or Fred Thompson or something and have Ron Paul blimp there.
And you're talking about, they've even got the little ones, but they're still like, you know, eight, nine feet long, that you can just pump up with helium and then run up at any event.
I had come across somebody slamming Ron Paul on Google.
I mean, on YouTube.
And so I wrote him a little letter, and I said, hey, you know, this guy's defending your Constitution, giving you the right to say these things, you know?
And he went ahead and emailed me back, and he says, you say all these things, but you fail to see the idea of a one-world government, despite many people suffering during the current economic slowdown crisis.
I actually predicted it, and have made a lot of money from it.
Then he goes on to say that he can't wait for a disaster or something to happen so he can have more years of Bush Cheney, and he wants to see us go to war with Iran and Syria, and then he signed it that he's a banker, Lawrence Silverstein, in New York.
I think that's a pun, or I think it's like kind of a tongue-in-cheek deal where they go out and say outrageous things in the name of Larry Silverstein.
Okay, well listen, Bob in Arizona, you are definitely on air, I assure you.
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I want to thank you and Ron Paul for the wonderful work that you're doing, and I've been keeping you, Alex, and your family in my prayers just so some of those goon squads doesn't come after you and cause you some trouble.
They're just, you know, they wouldn't hesitate in killing any of us.
They dress in basic black, what does that tell you?
Right out of 1938.
You know, so it's just terrifying.
And the question that I wanted to ask, I saw the interview last night with Ron Paul, he was on Glenn Beck, and I was amazed at how Glenn Beck seems to be turning around, maybe he's seen He's always done that.
I mean, it was really... You got to hear Ron Paul actually speak for a change instead of getting cut off.
And I agree totally with what he's saying.
He's a smart man.
I just pray to God he doesn't get himself killed.
You know, it's just... When somebody's out there speaking the truth, you know, it's just... So, I'm keeping you and Ron Paul and your family in my prayers.
And just go get them, Alex, and just don't let up until we win.
I have no doubt that I'd be in prison or dead if it wasn't for your prayers, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm very thankful for all of those, and I'm very thankful to all of our sponsors, listeners, affiliates, everybody.
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Olive, thanks for holding her on the air.
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Hi, Mr. Alex Jones.
I just wanted to let you know that I've been listening for a little while and I am a practicing witch.
You talk a lot about the occult because of its involvement with the New World Order, and I wanted to just throw out there the actual definition of magic by Aleister Crowley.
The actual definition of occult means mystery or hidden knowledge.
But the word magic, as defined by Aleister Crowley, is a science and art of causing change to occur, the conformity with will, as your own personal will, using means not currently understood by traditional Western science.
And in going with that, I also saw an article that your people have posted about the George Bush going back to the tomb and talking about the skull and crossbones.
And I also wanted to comment on the fact that there is an ancient tradition of the skull and crossbones, and I just wanted to let other people know about that and how I feel as a witch that they are using certain symbols and certain things in a perverse and I just wanted to let other people know about that and how I feel as a witch that In a perverse way to get to their means and hurting people.
So you're taking the light path and they're doing the dark thing and that's what you are saying?
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Well, yeah, and the other day when we were talking about lesser magic and about white magic and black magic and how there needs to be a balance and I do agree with that.
Well, I just wanted to throw out there that the skull and crossbones has been used for a very long time as a symbol of ancient crossroads and crossing over and ancestral worship and giving homage to your ancestors and reading the article and seeing that the individuals in the skull and crossbones were kissing and the skulls.
I mean, that's a very sacred act that they are using in a way that I feel that they do not understand and taking this power and using it to their own means to destroy everything that we hold dear.
And I just, I don't know, I just wanted to put that out there.
But I mean, do you know what Aleister Crowley did to his son?
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Yeah, I mean, he was not a good person and he is actually a controversy within the Wiccan and Pagan community because of the fact that of all this knowledge that he brought, but he was just such a horrible person.
He used to beat his own servants, and to say somebody, do what thy will, but harm none, and him turn around and not walk the walk of what he had just said.
And I get people who are in the occult and the rest of it saying, well, I'm a good person and I'm into helping people and you shouldn't say that our roots are in human sacrifice.
Every major pagan movement From even Midwestern Indians, Native Americans, to the Aztecs, to the Druids, different populations.
And I'm telling you, the New World Order, in their own writings, believes in this and believes that there are too many people and they need to kill 80% of us.
And I believe that's a beautiful thing they're doing, and I don't think it's beautiful at all.
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And I agree with you.
I think that that's completely horrible, and there's a common idea within the Wiccan community that, yes, there are too many people in the world, and that the earth needs to be treated better, and the only way that can happen is... Well, stay there.
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And took it all away Late there's a little The place is where you used to play Hopefully I'll be better tomorrow And back in the saddle We replayed a little clip of Esclan earlier As I meant to mention that he will be back on tomorrow Live from Spain with more intel
On the higher circles of the New World Order Discussing what would happen if they killed Ron Paul Listen Let's go back to Olive and then we'll go to James.
And others that are patiently holding.
Listen, I'm not here to bash Catholics or Protestants any more than I'm here to bash people that are openly into, you know, old time religion, as you guys like to call it.
All that pagan stuff.
I mean, most of these mainline Christian churches are pagan themselves.
I am a Christian.
And I do believe in, you know, Jesus.
They can put out movies and claim it's, you know, just a repeat of earlier gods and all the rest of it.
All I know is the people I've ever been around who are into the occult are a bunch of power-hungry, grasping, unhappy, scamming ne'er-do-wells.
And I ran into it repeatedly when I was growing up.
And I just wrote the New World Orders into it, and I know so many people who claim that they're into goodness and good magic and all this stuff, but then they're always big fans of Aleister Crowley, who, if you ask me, was just a big nerd, needed to be slapped upside the head.
And so, you know, I mean, that's basically just what it comes down to, is that I'm not here bashing people or attacking people or even trying to judge people.
I just, I tend to agree with what Anton LaVey said, and he was, and I don't like Anton LaVey, by the way.
I'm saying I agree with what he said about there's no difference.
I mean, if you're going to be into this stuff, you might as well just go all the way, because it's all part of the same system.
And then you talk about balance.
Well, that's how they get you over into, openly, you know, I mean, a world of a bunch of self-centered people doing as thou wilt.
And feeding on other people and getting off on the power of dominating other people.
And that's the ultimate expression of the New World Order.
I mean, they're such control freaks.
They want to kill the majority of us to control the future.
But just go ahead.
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Well, what I think is really interesting, from some of the point of view of Wicca is that when I lie, and because I'm human, that's gonna happen.
And I don't feel ashamed of it, but I do not like the fact that I have the potential to hurt people.
The devil did not make me do that.
I lied.
I had the power to do that and I chose to do that.
Now, I don't necessarily like myself when that happens or when I think bad thoughts about other people, but I have taken that power away from some other demigod or the devil, the Christian devil, and have put that upon myself and when i do you say the christian devil don't you worship the horn god of the forest uh that would that would be pan
and uh the christian devil was created by the catholic church in order to um now they were always they're always devils There's always been the devil.
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Total violation of positive commentators.
Let me go in the film to show Marines who've been secretly trained for it and a lot more.
Sure enough, this article's been up since 1998 and it's martial law is here.
Martial law has begun.
It's a three on the Richter scale and I go there and the I-35 video capture images are good, the article about it is good, but the link to the Army document Is dead.
Now we did take text out of it and post it.
So I've got to ask my webmaster to see if he can find that.
Man, I tell you what, I just get really tired of stuff like this.
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Going to Larry Pratt, we thought we'd beaten it for the year.
Larry said they could still try to sneak it back sometime in the dead hours before Christmas, as they tend to do.
And we've got a big Supreme Court ruling coming up on the Second Amendment next year.
Larry Pratt is with GunOwners.org.
I keep telling you, listeners, that the media isn't telling you the Second Amendment's under attack.
They've gotten a lot slicker about it.
Now they tell you, hey, we support the Second Amendment, and that means we're going to restrict it.
And they call this a new bill, pro-gun, here in this AFP article.
And so it's a very dark time for the Second Amendment, and the big battle's heating up.
Well, I ran into him, I caught up with him, I should say, on the phone at the airport.
And he had no idea that this thing had gone through, nor had I at that time.
And we discussed, bless our hearts, a strategy that we would implement when the House of Representatives got back on January 15 to try to stop it there.
Well, it had already been put through.
They didn't want any more Time for debate, any more time for public awareness of just how seriously they have hurt the right to keep and bear arms of so many people, particularly veterans.
And it's just an amazing thing.
The big concession that was arrived at in the United States Senate dealt with, if your name has been put on the list that you can't buy a gun when an instant background check is done, You'll be able to get your name out of the list, or at least let's put it this way, you'll be able to try.
You'll be able to sue the government and that means you can go pay for a lawyer, you can go pay for a psychiatrist, you can pay for any other expert witnesses that you might need in order to try to get your name out.
Keep in mind, being able to sue the government, that is a special privilege that they have to grant to you, so that was a change, but you will have to prove your innocence.
You will have to prove that you're not mentally defective, which will be the way they're going to be zapping so many of these folks.
If they think that you might be a danger to yourself or to others, if you've been so ruled by some psychiatrist or the Veterans Administration, then you're toast, and you're going to have to prove that you're not.
If somebody hasn't had experience dealing with The court system, it may be difficult to appreciate just how terrible a burden this is, but the reason that we are a different country in terms of our judicial process What really makes us stand apart from all the non-English speaking countries of the world is that when the government has a beef against you, they have to bring the charges.
They have to prove that you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
And that's why the Soviet Union and everybody else love to use psychiatry as a tool against political dissidents because they can just say, in fact they have There's scores of new designations in the last decade.
And then you have to prove, and it's not as if you've been accused of having punched somebody in the nose or done something that was a violent crime, which is what used to be the threshold for depriving somebody of the right to keep and bear arms.
No, if you might be a danger, now that charge alone is what puts your rights off limits.
This Congress is clearly not interested in going on the record.
They're not interested in protecting the people's liberties.
These guys need to be thrown out.
We are in real trouble and what they're able to do is do these things right at the end of the session and the NRA is there to run cover for them.
And to say that, well, it was a pro-gun measure anyway.
We got the necessary improvements in it to make it so that we liked it.
Well, believe me, they've been pushing this bill all along.
They came out publicly for it as it left the House of Representatives when they got this so-called improvement that you can try to get your name out.
Listen, even if you were somehow able to prove that you were not a danger to yourself and others, That doesn't mean that your name is going to come out of the list.
They can just fool around and fool around and fool around, and after a year goes by, the bill says you're considered denied.
The NRA is one of the most powerful lobbies in this country.
If they wanted this thing dead, it would have been dead.
They laid the egg.
They fed the baby.
They took care of this little creature.
Larry, you guys have finally, Gunners of America, done the right thing and I appreciate it because you've been really You know, really above the fray and gentlemanly about it.
You've written an open letter to gun owners laying out the history that the NRA is a bunch of gun grabbers.
I don't mean the members, but the leadership.
Recap that for people so they can understand what it's going to take to get back on the offensive.
Because as long as Judas Iscariot is our leader, we're going to lose.
Yeah, you don't want Benedict Arnold remaining as your general.
Carol McCarthy, as far as this latest defeat is concerned, called it.
She said, this bill would not have moved had it not been for the NRA.
I think those are her exact words.
But this is something that's been on the NRA's mind from the very beginning.
And according to their own leaders in the past, such as the president that they had back in 1968, he wrote, Franklin North was his name, wrote in the American Rifleman, that the NRA has from its very beginning in 1872 supported reasonable and effective, I think that the NRA has from its very beginning in 1872 supported reasonable and effective, I think were the So, obviously, they think the Brady Instant Check is effective.
They think that because people on many occasions are kept from buying a gun at a store, that somehow that keeps criminals from getting guns.
Excuse me, how does that work in England when there really aren't any more stores left?
If you're not a farmer wanting to buy a single shot shotgun or a hunter wanting to buy a bolt-action single shot rifle, You're not going to get a gun in England.
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I go to gunowners.org and I track it.
And you notice the last three or four months, I went out and I started getting Larry Pratt on a bunch.
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I said, folks, the attack is on.
I guess you think I'm just saying that for fun.
And we're not going to see the repercussions in the next couple of years as this is implemented, but the big thing is next year, the Supreme Court And don't think they're not political.
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And again, it'll be something like this.
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And then they come in with laws saying, well, we can curtail you.
That'll be hailed as pro-gun.
It'll actually be a death knell.
Larry Pratt, do you agree with that analysis that we're facing that danger?
If they go to GunOwners.org, they can go down and They'll see a tab for our foundation, which is where the bookstore is, and books that I've written, books that John Lott, the great scholar about, well, one of his books says it all, More Guns, Less Crime.
And I know the audience knows that, but your mother, your father, your neighbor, your son, your daughter, we have to go convert people, or we're going to lose it, folks!
Well, yeah, this little girl, about ten years old, took a piece of steak and a steak knife to school and she was caught cutting the steak with her knife and for that she was charged with a felony.
Well, I don't think we should say nothing could help, so please go ahead and do that.
I think it's frankly going to be a hard sell, but he ought to hear from the folks, because if he doesn't hear from anybody, then he'll use that as a justification for what he ends up doing.
We'll be right back with Aaron Zellman of Jews to Preservation of Firearms Ownership.
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And then, sure, we're going to go ahead and say anybody who's ever had any type of mental illness or even any mental designation that they've handed out to over 100 million Americans, you can't own guns anymore.
Military, police, you name it.
And then now the Supreme Court's going to rule on the Second Amendment.
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And that'll actually be anti-gun.
So the ultimate attack is now on.
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Some of their books and materials are also on the Gun Owners website.
Well, if you take a look at this particular bill today that was passed, this travesty, this was a combined effort between the NRA and Carol McCarthy and Charlie Schumer to appear to be doing something good, but in reality it brings about a great deal of evil.
I'll just give you one example that has really concerned me for many months since this bill was introduced.
If someone is considered to have a mental health problem of some sort, I haven't seen a clear definition of what a mental health problem is.
Does that mean somebody who was depressed for a week because there was a death in the family?
Because Yeah, you said no gun, but this really opens a door for the ATF to come smashing the door down, actually, in your home, because let's say you owned guns prior to someone saying you have a mental health issue.
Well, that means you can't keep the guns you have.
And that's why they have a billion-dollar-a-year budget and growing.
And so I think that this bill, that this treachery on behalf of the NRA and the usual group of gun haters, should be a red flag to everybody who's listening to your program, that the battle has started.
The battle to destroy the Second Amendment The war on guns isn't full force.
And he said, "Oh, they'll try to sneak it through right before Christmas." They've done that.
And I agree.
And I know you don't listen to the show very often.
You haven't heard me.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
That the state, federal, international, globally, I mean, at every level, Schwarzenegger passing this thing where they've got a stamp on all the bullets, that'll cause that to be adopted nationwide.
So you have the same analysis.
This is the big one.
The battle of Armageddon for the Second Amendment has begun?
In fact, we did a mailing about a month ago to our membership, telling our members that it won't make any difference who wins election, the presidential election, assuming we still have one.
We have enemies.
I don't think Ron Paul's going to win, by the way.
That's probably going to upset some people, but the reality of the situation is that whoever gets in the White House is going to be our enemy.
The Supreme Court, by the way, I think will prove to be our enemy, because they may decide to say, well, yes, you have a right to gun ownership, but The government has a right to regulate.
It's all over with, because the regulation could also include taxation.
$200 a year, but you buy your machine guns, $200.
But suppose they decide to have a yearly tax on guns, and they'll probably say also for ammunition, because they'll accuse that of being part of the global warming problem.
Every time you have a The gun discharging of a carbon footprint, so they will say.
So yeah, the battle is on.
And anybody who thinks, well, now we're going to win the day and things are going to turn out okay, they need to take an anti-naive pill.
You know, I totally agree with you, and I can see it in all their actions.
It's not just that.
It's the borders.
It's the wars.
It's everything.
The establishment now doesn't care if 90 plus percent are against the NAFTA highway, or if 90 plus percent are against open borders, or if 80 percent are against a war, or if 75 percent are against gun control.
If you'll notice, this entire piece of legislation was passed on a voice vote.
There is no record of who voted for this travesty.
And the NRA was delighted to have it handled that way.
So we have a record of the NRA committing this, having a helping hand.
In destroying the Second Amendment today.
We don't have a record of which of these criminals in Congress voted.
I'm not sure how they voted.
My assumption is that every single person in Congress voted for it, and they're all a bunch of criminals, and if people don't wake up in the United States and smell the coffee, it's going to be over with before they can blink their eyes.
Well, that's true, but I would like to tell people on the front page of our website at JPFO.org, there is a section that says that JPFO and NRA have different views on the BATFE.
And the NRA sent a letter to one of our members making it very clear they oppose abolishing the ATF.
We have that letter posted on our site.
People need to go read that.
And we have our four-page response to their letter.
People need to read that too.
But the NRA is on record as opposing abolishing The most criminal organization in America, the ATF.
And by the way, the controlled corporate media that poses as liberal always attacks the NRA, knowing that that fools conservatives into thinking, oh, they must be good.
Just like they attack Huckabee for a cross behind him and, oh, is it okay to be Christian?
Well, I think that it's time then for people to say they're not going to put up with it anymore.
I mean, as an educational group, we can't tell people how to vote or not vote.
But surely someone out there can put two and two together and realize that they've got to do something different.
this coming election.
That's about as far as I can go on that issue, please understand.
One of the things that we've been trying to reach people on also is the criminality of a government agency known as the ATF.
And we have a new film out called The Gang.
And The Gang chronicles and documents how damn criminal this agency is and how this information should be brought forward to every politician America that the politician says are not interested well why should you continue to be interested in that politician so we have to do I think it is really motivate people to say they're not going to tolerate business as usual and I think it's not just JPFO's game
that's got to be everybody's game plan Well, we know what happened.
We kicked their hind in the last five, six years in gun control in a thousand different running battles.
And so they went underground, beefed up their regulation system, started going after guns on the regulatory side.
And the gun owners' grips will tell you it's been worse than ever.
And now they're launching their big salvos.
I mean, what do we do when the Supreme Court comes out and exactly, it'll be held as pro-gun, it'll say, you've got a right, And that right is for us to have those handed over.
You know, you've got a right to own a gun, but we get to regulate it, and then it's over.
Well, as we've shown people, you know, in our film, Innocence Betrayed, Uh, when governments take guns, they're able to demonize a group of people, they're able to determine if that group of people will live or die, and they're able to control the entire society because no one can resist effectively.
I think, and I think assuming that there's going to be some computer genius working within the government that's going to pull the right plug at the right time and shut the government down.
I don't think that's going to happen.
There'll be some thug next to them with a gun to their head.
Well, aside from that, I think this is also for total domination.
I think they really do want a society full of robots, so to speak, who just do as they're told to do and take their pills and go to work and then come home and take another pill and Yeah, and just turn on the boob tube.
So I think it's really even more than just what you're talking about.
This is very far-reaching, where they want, in my opinion, and I think yours too, they want a society that is totally subservient.
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I think the first step we've got to do, once people realize that they've got to do something, They better start talking to everyone in their family and everyone they work with and all of their neighbors.
They've got to reach out to those people they can reach out to quickly and efficiently.
And convince them to come on board.
Get them to stop feeling and believing and start thinking.
And start thinking about a harsh reality.
That a great evil is certainly coming our way.
You know, people are very concerned about putting out little brush fires, but they're not paying attention to the armored column that's coming our way.
And this is something that, you know, our enemies have been very clever at.
They've got us worried about this effect or that effect or this event, but we're not paying attention to the armored column.
I've said, I see them like powering up a huge gun.
And, you know, like a Death Star, they're powering it up, aiming it, they're saying what they're going to do, and the average Joe's running around going, I'm the NRA, everything's good, and they just can't believe the NRA is a vicious anti-gun organization.
Well, I think they've proven that, and I think that once they went on record as saying they were opposed to abolishing the ATF, and also acknowledging that when they had the opportunity to do so, they didn't want to, That's all I needed to hear from the NRA, that they have become the enemy of the Second Amendment.
And I think anybody that supports that organization, shame on them.