Alex Jones interviews Virgil Griffith, a Caltech student who created the WikiScanner tool to expose CIA, Diebold, Fox News, and New York Times edits on Wikipedia. They detail how the software traces IP addresses to reveal manipulations like derogatory Bush entries and biased political labeling, while Jones alleges broader Google-CIA censorship of his films. The discussion concludes that these revelations suggest a coordinated effort to control information, fueling fears of a digital police state where corporate entities actively suppress dissenting narratives. [Automatically generated summary]
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We know Bush has bought billions and billions of fake news and thousands of reporters out pushing a police state martial law, telling us how good it is to have police in black uniforms arresting reporters coast to coast.
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Virgil Griffith is the amazing individual who's gotten so much attention because of the open source nature of Wikipedia.
He was able to craft a program and a wiki scanner.
We've been hearing so much about the last three weeks since this broke.
And headlines, see who's editing Wikipedia, Diebold, the CIA, and campaigns.
And it goes on from there, and we've been doing wiki scans and finding out all the government agencies and people that have been in there foxing and messing with the postings about me, or just out of hand deleting them.
Hundreds of pages about my films and works we've done, just gone forever.
Oh, it's a sure thing.
did, just vandalizing information.
It's so much fun.
But now they're not doing it without the spotlight on them.
So with us in the rest of this segment into the next segment is Virgil Griffith.
Virgil, I really want to thank you for what you've done.
When you finally got it built and tested, what was it like to see the incredible results you were getting?
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Oh, it was wonderful.
Yeah, that's all I can say.
I quickly saw that it would be a bad idea if there was any sort of system on my website where people could rate how juicy the edits were because they'll probably get you sued.
So I was very happy when Wired Magazine stepped in and they offered to do that for me.
So that way I could stand back and be objective, and I could just say, oh look, I just provide the tool and whatever people do with it, well that's up to them.
Well, I'm asking my listeners to go in and use this and make submissions to our PrisonPlanet.com form.
We're going to create a section there, and everybody should do this.
We should learn how the crannies of the web work.
We should investigate what's happening.
Now, back, what, last year when there were allegations of congressmen manipulating it, they denied it and called it a conspiracy theory, but now your scanners confirmed a lot of that.
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Yeah, it's certainly true.
I mean, if you want to, you can go search right now and you can see tons of them.
It's quite glorious.
To be completely fair to them, it does not necessarily mean that they or their staff made it, but we do know that it came from someone within the congressional computer network.
Another example of how whatever they do for tyranny's sake, we have independent freedom lovers out there that are sabotaging them every step of the way.
We'll be right back with Virgil Griffith.
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If you go up to Infowars.com and prisonpundit.com, you can link over to the Wired Magazine that's kind of teamed up with Caltech graduate student Virgil Riveth, who built a search tool that traces IP addresses of those who make Wikipedia changes.
And you can go through at the wiki Scanner, and then you can even submit stuff to Wired.
We're asking people to do that on our message board at PrisonPlanet.com as well, just to show what they're doing for the truth movement, the 9-11 truth movement, the anti-war movement, and even looking on Wired, the thousands of submissions that have been made there on Wikiscans, because you still need human intelligence to really look at this and pick out what we think is most interesting.
It's CIA, it's American Airlines going in and saying 9-11 didn't happen on a page.
I mean, it's just...
It's anti-war groups getting removed.
It's Republicans vandalizing Cindy Sheehan.
I mean, it just goes... You have opened a Pandora's box here, and as you said earlier, I mean, I couldn't do this, but for a programmer like yourself, it's a pretty simple application.
Has this been cloned yet?
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No, it has not.
And I said the reason because of this is because the database that connects IP ranges to companies usually costs money.
And in my case, I asked very nicely, and it would be for free.
But, so yeah.
So I said the reason they haven't done it is because getting that database usually costs like, what, $1,000 or so?
Well, there are comments on our message board right now in defense of Wikipedia, and I've gotten mad at them because they've let little trolls who have administration power delete hundreds of pages of serious material that other people put up that I happen to be mentioned in.
And they're just vandalizing everything, and on their pages they snicker and laugh and admit it's politically motivated and worship George Bush and his fascism.
And the people that were posting my material and other important stuff and research we'd done, they were doing it very dryly in the proper format of Wikipedia.
And so I'm mad at Wikipedia about that, but I want to make this clear.
The same manipulation of information, the same failures of information, the same spinning of info is in Webster's dictionary.
It's in Encyclopedia Britannica.
It's just now, because this is open source, and people are now looking at it, we're able to see manipulation that's always been there in other formats.
Now, I know you're not going to make value judgments on this because you're just dryly putting out this technology, but just randomly then, what are some of the points of interest for you?
I mean, when you were first there looking at this and seeing who was going in and changing the encyclopedia, who was removing stuff about themselves, who was adding things?
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My favorite ones were actually from the media themselves.
So, the first ones I looked at were the New York Times, Fox News, and Al Jazeera.
So those are very nice.
My favorite one, actually, I was very surprised the New York Times actually published this in their newspaper.
The New York Times actually added the phrase, jerk, jerk, jerk, jerk, jerk, jerk, jerk, to George Bush's webpage.
So that was very nice.
And they also changed, they changed on Condoleezza Rice's page, they changed that she was a concert pianist to a concert penis.
But see, those are petty, so that's why they advertise it like it was some employee doing it.
The more serious stuff, and I know you're not making a judgment on this, but I mean the CIA computers going in, Republican computers going in, what type of stuff did you find?
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The CIA was actually not very interesting.
I mean, I was very sad about this.
Um, the CIA, they're mostly just people just being lazy at work.
Like, starting to tell the CIA's favorite subject was, is arcane lightsaber fighting style.
Well, yeah, they're going for lowest common denominator, literally like a chant, a Vedic chant of just liberal, liberal, liberal, whacked out liberal, liberal, liberal, nutcase crazy liberal, liberal, liberal, yeah.
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Yeah.
So yeah, so it's in their case that they were always adding this mere adjective, liberal, in front of anyone they didn't like.
And this was most common for NPR radio commentators.
Here's another example of censorship, separate from Wikipedia, because of its open source nature, you're able to do this.
But, obviously I'm not telling you that, I'm just telling folks that don't understand computers, like myself.
Here's a question from our message board.
Hey Alex, the Google video censoring is way worse than just your video, and I'm sure you know.
Loose Change, Terror Storm, 9-11 Mysteries are consistently watched enough to be put in the top 100, but as you probably noticed, the top 100 is now, fairly recently, full of sexy type videos.
Yeah, there's been a fat lady on a treadmill for 10 years.
And they have the views that some of these documentaries have.
They are purposely promoting mindlessness on the top 100.
I also have screenshots from last October where they deleted views and versions of Terror Storm Loose Change.
They froze counters for 5 days in one case, deleted the Loose Change version that had 7 million views and was constantly in the top 10.
It seems within the last 4 or 5 months they've been deliberately censoring Before that, you would see five or six truth movies in the top 100.
Now it's all naked ladies.
For example, Loose Change has 8,000 views yesterday, says it ranks at number 30, but it's not even in the top 100.
And Google admits they're accidentally doing this, but only to us.
And then say, Marshall Law is big news a month ago.
It's in the National News, Bush wants Marshall Law.
And, you know, it's a major paper.
So, the number three search on Google was my film, Marshall Law, from three years ago.
And so it gets 700,000 views in three days.
It's number one.
They just disable it.
And it's been disabled for more than a month.
I mean, we need programmers and smart guys like you to look at that, too, sir, because we're getting sick of it.
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Yeah, that's actually kind of interesting.
I know several people who do work at Google, and I'll say that most of them are very nice.
No, I know they're big Ron Paul supporters, and most of them really are good.
It started out as a really libertarian, dynamic thing.
It's why it's been so successful, but now you know they've made deals with China, they've been doing MIT mergers with CIA, that's all come out.
It seems like they are, kind of like they were a young Anakin Skywalker, and now they're becoming, you know, seduced by Lord Palpatine.
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Yeah, no, I know this view.
In short, I think Google is discovering that as they get bigger, and they're becoming more of a global player, they have to make some concessions for them to even survive.
Yeah, but we've got to let China use our data to grab their dissidents and execute them, or we won't be able to have our own private 777s with party rooms.
That actually would be very nice to do an analysis of.
and I'll think about a good way to do that.
You can get some objective measurements of traffic stats, and if you could just correlate that with Google ranking and see places where it doesn't make any sense, that would be very, very nice.
Well, they seem to do it and then stop and then do it.
I mean, what they do is, when we go up in the top ten, they knock us out for a few weeks until we settle back down so there's no viral spread.
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The interest is up and the stock market's down And you're only getting mugged if you go downtown Well, I hope to get Virgil Griffith on from time to time as new developments come out with his wiki scanner.
We have links to it up on Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
Just in closing, in a few minutes we've got, sir, any other key points you want to make or other interesting discoveries that people should be directed to look at.
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Yeah, there are two things.
Some people keep asking, saying, hey, with Wikiscan, won't this make those companies just more clever?
They'll be more sneaky about how they edit Wikipedia, and so they'll think they've done a bad thing by it, because now they're just going to be sneakier now.
And I would say, the answer to that is no.
Um, and I use the analogy of fingerprints.
So like, you know, dusting for fingerprints when we all know police do, and they've done it, you know, for like decades, maybe.
Yeah, at least decades.
However, every time police come to a crime scene, they still dust for prints, and lo and behold, it still often works.
So, I'll look through WikiScanner, kind of like that.
So, yes, there may be some people, maybe some criminals that are very clever and they use gloves to prevent things like WikiScanner from working, but by and large, I think it'll still work.
So, yeah.
So, in short, by a year from now, the entire thing could be done all over again.
Now, for those that don't know, Wikipedia is like rated, what, number 8th by the two big web rating services last time I checked, up from number 9.
That's about right, yeah.
So, for those that don't know, we've tracked some of our stories and websites.
10% of our traffic is from Wiki.
And so it's a wonderful thing, and I get millions of visitors a month on article sites, and they are little compared to Wiki, but it makes me angry that they let people have personal user pages where they say they're there to destroy information, and they say they're there to shut down alternative info.
And then they're just allowed to break all the rules because they're old Wiki users.
They need to be shut down.
I mean, Wiki does need to clean house and get all the people that are trying to destroy true information out of there.
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Well, I'll be sure to mention it to them.
I mean, yeah, I'll mention it.
The Wikimedia Foundation has, I mean, we're talking fairly often now.
Well, he says he's an admin, but then he took that off and we put attention on it, but then he teams up with other admins, and it's like wolf packs of people.
I'm going to have Paul Watson send you all the stories about Google censorship.
officer david steel exposing it and then we'll also send you the information on the uh...
these brigades they call them they have military awards most of them are are admit there was sent com and and they just brag they're fighting as evil evil al-qaeda lovers by destroying any criticism of the government i think well yeah yeah sure sure it's just that it and i'll and i'll get into the thinking i can make of it help us uh...
now that you started the star wars analogies i'm not going to stop Help us, Obi-Wan Griffith, Virgil, Obi-Wan, we need you.
You and many other great programmers and researchers like yourself are our only hope.
Is there a website, I mean, other than just your new scanner that you want to plug?
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Actually, yes, there is one.
The Notable Names Database, NNDB.com.
I think that's a very nice site for uncovering scandals and things like that and the stuff you mentioned.