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Alex Jones discusses government cover-ups, mainstream media, and terrorist attacks in this audio clip. He promotes his film Terror Storm and encourages listeners to get prepared for emergencies with the Berkey Security Pack. He criticizes police forces and governments for their failure to protect citizens and their complicity in allowing foreign troops to operate within the country. Jones shares a story about an individual who overheard suspicious conversations in a Jewish cemetery but faced skepticism from authorities. He interviews Ed Haas about an Israeli-American man who reported overhearing men speaking in Hebrew about the 9/11 attacks months before they happened. Various products are advertised throughout the broadcast, along with discussions on historical events and political situations like Nancy Pelosi's handling of Iraq and potential constitutional crises in America. The passage also covers the UK 9-11 Truth Movement, their interest in investigating conspiracies, and claims about MI6 involvement in Princess Diana's death and a global police state."

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Big Brother.
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Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
There's a very important article up on PrisonPlanet.com right now, Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
alex jones
Here we are already, closing out the week.
The final broadcast I'm doing in the first week of 2007.
It is Friday.
We'll be live for the next three hours and we have three separate guests.
Actually, we have four guests joining us today.
We'll have time to squeeze in a few calls.
As well, there's a really important article up on PrisonPlanet.com, and I talked to Paul Watson about it when the story came out, and I said, Paul, I didn't know about this.
There was a big bombing in Madrid, Spain.
For some reason, it's not in my stack.
Guys, will you print that for me again?
And I didn't even know, and I'm somewhat of a news junkie scanning around the news wires, and I called a few people in my family, I talked to people here at the office, none of them, some of them are total news junkies, addicts, had heard of this.
I mean, a giant bomb went off and wreaked incredible havoc But when they don't want to make a big deal out of it, it's kept quiet.
So I'll get into that report a little bit later.
Something else that's kept quiet is what's happening on the Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Californian borders with good ol' Mexico.
And that is that Mexican troops come across routinely And FBI agents have been killed, have been wounded, DEA have been killed and been wounded, sheriff deputies have been killed and wounded, have been held up at gunpoint, have been robbed, Mexican troops have come across the border in Texas, we've interviewed the sheriff who was there when it happened, and pointed machine guns at him and took the marijuana back.
The Mexican troops take large payments from the illegal aliens, And act as coyotes using their army trucks in many cases to drive across the border or to drive around border patrol to deliver them to U.S.
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Of course, the AP reported yesterday the Mexican government in connection, in conjunction with the U.S.
government, since they're working together, is going to pay in an opening program for 200,000 GPS systems to navigate them into the U.S.
And let's say that the cheapest GPS I ever heard of, let's say 50 bucks a piece, We're talking about tens of millions of dollars.
And of course there's the comic books that say this is Mexico and that the U.S.
belongs to Mexico, come get it.
Aslan, the mythical kingdom, and it tells in there, don't beat your life by the way, the Americans get really mad at that, how to stay under the radar, how to sneak in, what to do, how to get on welfare.
So we have a country of 100 million people literally attached to us, pumping in 30 million of their population, using us as a revolutionary steam valve, because they would have no doubt had a revolution down there, probably with a good outcome, certainly possibly with a good outcome, if they hadn't used the US as a steam valve.
And you have tens of billions a year being sent back just from their paychecks, not to mention the tens of billions being sent back that siphon through all the welfare fraud.
There is no federal or state enforcement to stop fraud.
Some of these people, in cases when they have been caught, have had seven different identities.
Seven different identities pulling seven different welfare checks.
But I'm going to lay all this out.
And why?
U.S.-Mexico pact revealed billions to non-citizens, but we mentioned that a few days ago.
No, no, it's happened again.
Gunmen force guard troops to flee border patrol posts.
That's the Americans, Land of the Cowards, Home of the Slaves.
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And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
Remember the reporter, Ed Hosh?
alex jones
Who we talked to about a month ago, who had interviewed the Israeli-American, who had reported to the FBI, on record, we confirmed this, months before 9-11, and to hear people in Hebrew talking about when the towers get knocked down in September, the Americans will know what it's like to be hit by a terrorist.
And it's on record he went to the FBI.
Well, now more of this story has been confirmed.
I've had a chance to learn the name and get the number of the individual, actually a few weeks ago, I've been so busy I haven't We're able to follow up on it and get a hold of it in the times I called.
But the individual now has signed more statements to the FBI.
And so we'll give you an update on that in about 22 minutes from now.
Then we've got Webster Tarpley coming on at the bottom of the next hour to talk about Gerald Ford and the Bush connection and some of the current things that are happening.
And then Tony Gosling, who is one of the preeminent experts on the Bilderberg Group, In the world, runs the bigbuilderberg.org website.
He'll be joining us coming up to talk about the Global Elite, what their programs are, in the third hour today.
So, that's the guest that we have joining us.
In the meantime, forgive me if I'm a bit slow today, I'm still a little bit under the weather.
You may hear me pause from time to time to shelter you from the hacking and snarfing that's going on.
Now, we're also going to be getting into the fact that terror is trivial when it's not Muslims.
Madrid airport bombing received scant attention.
And this happened over the last weekend, but still the average person hasn't heard about it.
So we'll be discussing that a little bit later in this hour.
But it happened again, and it's happened a whole bunch of times, and it never gets the attention it deserves.
Can you imagine If Arabs shot at Border Patrol or if Arabs or Muslims shot at National Guard and overran them, the type of hysteria, the type of freaking out.
I mean, hide your children, lock your doors.
People would build shrines to SWAT teams with little men in black masks that they would bow down to.
It's nice that we've already gotten to that.
Little sacrifices to it.
I mean, that's the point we're getting to.
Where we worship our slavery.
Where we worship the paramilitary forces that rule over us with hate.
But can you imagine?
There were fifty... was it four?
Yeah, fifty-four back in 2005.
American citizens, late 2005, kidnapped over the Texas border and taken down to Mexico and held.
And it was kept very quiet.
There was a huge week-long standoff and armed takeover and some of the people got killed.
800 plus dead on the Texas and Mexico sides of the border in 2005.
It was hundreds and hundreds last year.
The State Department reporting that it was more dangerous than the West Bank of Israel.
Its highest threat level warning of not to travel into those areas of South Texas.
There are over a million illegal aliens, conservatively, in Houston alone.
There have been car bombs there, machine gunnings there, a car bombing in Dallas, shootings in Austin, San Antonio.
And, I mean, imagine, trucks blow up and then catch the house on fire next to them and blow people up in them.
And it's just minor footnote on the Dallas Morning News, minor footnote on the nightly news.
You see, they know what to hype, they know what to not hype.
And we've had a bunch of Border Patrol killed and shot, and then always they say, somebody shot them from over the border.
And then always a few weeks later, okay, it was Mexican troops, but they were rogues, and they've been hired by the drug dealers.
Does that mean hired by the generals?
Because everyone knows, it's on record, that every Mexican general is publicly a narcotics trafficker.
The whole government runs the narcotics.
And they sell them through certified drug couriers and conduits to U.S.
drug dealers here in the continental U.S.
I mean, all the time I say the government ships in the drugs and people go, well, I got a cousin that's a drug dealer.
He ain't working for the government.
We're not talking about your small-time dope dealers.
I know, they drive a Cadillac and live in a million-dollar house.
They're absolutely nothing, okay?
The real banks that launder the money get over $300 billion a year here in the U.S.
alone.
The major conduits.
Take Columbia.
You will have GPS on the crop spraying aircraft.
And they will spray certain fields right next to other coca fields, or marijuana fields, or opium plantations, and they will not spray the one right next to it.
It's all, are you paying your cut?
Okay?
So, large portions are directly shipped in on U.S.
government aircraft, trains, and ships.
Then, large U.S.
corporations also ship in large shipments, and they're totally, totally protected.
But then the lion's share of it is coming in through couriers and through other shipments by licensed drug cartels.
And we've had Celica Stillo, a former head D.A.
agent in Latin America.
He'd also been a Marine Corps, excuse me, an Army sniper.
He'd been a police officer, he'd been a border patrol guard, and then moved up into DEA, so worked it all, saying that Los Zetas, the so-called paramilitary Mexican Army drug dealers all over the Southwest, killing whoever they want, including police, by the way.
But again, it's bad when you kill a cop, except when Los Zetas does it, it's kept very quiet.
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It's like, eh, cop union, just shut up, okay?
alex jones
This is the special group, you keep your mouth shut.
You want Los Zetas to come get you.
And they tried to hire Selly's, you know they train right down there in South Texas, and it's former CIA commandos, still CIA, down there running the whole op.
In fact, Selly told us three years ago, and it came out in the news last year, two years after he reported it, that they were hiring all the former death squad commanders from Nicaragua, El Salvador, Panama, Guatemala, thousands of them to run the death camps and the extermination squads in Iraq.
Lo and behold, it has now been in the Associated Press, it's been in the big papers out of Caracas, it is admitted.
And now the Boston Globe reports, as well as the Associated Press, that they have huge recruiting stations all over Latin America, and that a large portion of our troops are now foreigners.
Oh, they're breeding and training and preparing hardcore Latin American death squads right here in the U.S.
In fact, if the globalists ever decide to kill me, that's probably who they'll hire to do it.
They don't care, and the cops will lick their boots.
They can kill however many cops they want.
These little cowardly creatures just love it!
They want to pull over old ladies and shake them down.
They don't want to take their body armor off.
Here, shoot me, Mexican troops!
Because they love to cower and listen to Rush Limbaugh.
They love fake conservatism and weakness and lies and the destruction of this country.
Alright, I've been a little mean.
I just want to illustrate how ridiculous all this is.
Cameras in school bathrooms.
Checkpoints all over the country.
The Bush has announced he's reading all our mail.
We already knew this, folks.
They open mail all the time.
Most of the stuff that comes to my house has been opened.
I mean, what do you expect living in a banana republic run by a bunch of gangsters?
And I shouldn't go off about the policing.
It's just, so many of them have been killed.
I mean, some drug dealer or some old lady shoots a cop, man, they act like Jesus died.
But whenever the Mexican troops kill them, it's kept real quiet.
And those cops are told, stick your thumbs in your mouth and suck on them and shut up.
And they say, yes, a boss.
Yes, it's just pathetic.
It's pathetic!
Alright, I'm already burning out all our time.
I need to go over what's happened.
U.S.-Mexico pact revealed billions to go to non-citizens.
That's coming up, actually, secondarily.
This is out of the AP.
Government forced guard troops to flee Border Patrol post.
National Guard troops at an observation post at the Mexico border were forced to flee.
A group of armed people, and we've got sources there in Arizona, and it's the same MO.
It's Mexican drug troops that control that area, and the reports are it's Mexican troops.
Well, again, we've had a sheriff on from South Texas who's had the Mexican troops pull right up, aim guns at them, and take the marijuana away they just seized three miles over the border.
You're not taking our shipment, buddy!
And what did the sheriff's deputies do?
I couldn't help myself.
I mean, I would just take cover and open fire on them.
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But again, that's not even macho of me.
alex jones
I mean, you've got foreign troops in your country, your instinct should be to kill them.
If they're aiming guns at you and shooting at you.
But no, not Americans!
Man, we've been trained to lay down.
I was just on a national talk show right before I came on and did this live hour.
And I brought this up and they said, well, we gotta be nice.
I was talking to one of the producers off air, actually.
They were like, well, you gotta be nice to the illegal aliens.
Gunmen force guard troops to flee border patrol posts.
And you really can't knock the guard because they're not allowed to have loaded weapons.
That's right.
Can't have loaded weapons.
It's the one place you can have troops, constitutionally, is the border.
But, uh, no, no, no, no, no.
We're going to have armed National Guard New Orleans taking little old ladies' guns and shooting American citizens.
But you, uh, the troops who are not allowed to apprehend illegal border crossers withdrew safely and no one was injured, said National Guard Sergeant Edward Valbon.
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The media tells us when to get upset.
Huge bomb goes off at the airport in Madrid.
They don't want the public to know about it, so it's buried in some news wire and no one learns of it for four or five days.
Oh yeah, that's how this operates.
So we have total bedlam on the border.
We have the Mexican radio stations all announcing that this is Mexico.
600 and something billboards saying, L.A.' 's Mexico, ha ha ha.
Federal government finances the whole thing.
Every few months, Mexican troops open fire, wound, or shoot up the vehicles of Border Patrol.
It never makes national news.
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And this is how it operates.
alex jones
Now, up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com, we have the actual local newspaper articles that have more details Of what happened than what the AP reports.
But I'll bet my bottom dollar that these were Mexican troops.
Because Mexican troops don't let anybody else operate down there.
You pay them the money, they bring you across.
Now you'll have a coyote who's going, who's leading them, but he is shepherded to the border or across the border, and then it's his job to get you to a safe house.
Or to the vans that pick you up on the highway.
And the Border Patrol reports, they catch about one out of ten that come across.
So, if you go read the AP article, gunmen force guard troops to flee border patrol post.
National Guard troops in an observation post near the Mexican border were forced to flee a group of armed people, who later ran into Mexico authorities, said the troops Who were not allowed to apprehend illegal border crossers, withdrew safely, and no one was injured, said National Guard Sergeant Edward Balaban.
But can you imagine if our troops were going across the Mexican border shooting at their people and killing their people?
I mean, Mexico would just go into a complete cardiac arrest.
As a U.S.
citizen, you try sneaking across the border down there, boy, they'll put you in prison and suck every dime out of your family.
And it'll be called good by our media.
U.S.
Border Patrol officials are investigating, run by Chertoff, who isn't even American.
Don't you love America where foreigners are our little Nazi viceroys like Chertoff?
U.S.
Border Patrol officials are investigating the 11 p.m.
Wednesday incident They're trying to determine who the armed people were and why they approached the post near Sossabee in the desert corridor between Nogales and Lukeville.
Balaban, the sergeant, said the troops didn't know how many people were involved because it was so dark.
The area has been the busiest in the Tucson sector for marijuana seizures.
Agents have seized 124,000 pounds of marijuana.
What we need to add to an article we're writing about this is that it first started four years ago.
Remember the bounties on Border Patrol?
And then my dad, whose patient was then the head of the Texas Border Patrol, no longer is, said, is that true?
And he said, oh yeah, that's true.
And he made the joke, you know, it's like $200,000 bounty.
That's a lot more than we're worth.
Like it's funny.
I guess he was just making a joke about it because it's uncomfortable.
And then people tried to deny that, and then they took out ads in Mexican newspapers saying there's bounties on people's heads.
What was it?
One of them was a $20,000 bounty for any dead Border Patrol?
Yeah, that's real neighborly.
The papers take ads.
Imagine U.S.
newspapers.
Imagine the Brownsville paper or the Kingsville paper In South Texas, taking an ad.
Hey, $20,000 to kill Mexican Border Patrol.
I mean, that's how institutionalized hate of the U.S.
and kill the Yankee is down there.
And I'm sick of it!
And I don't want dumb twit state police pulling me over.
On the side of the highway and wanting to search my vehicle!
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That's why I get mad at you, you idiots!
alex jones
We're getting killed and kidnapped and car bombs are going off, and you idiots!
And I mean you, the whole government!
Well, the people that work for the government are a pack of morons.
I shouldn't, I'm just so mad.
I know most of your awakened are good people.
I'm talking about those that think a checkpoint keeps me safe.
Just stop it!
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I'm so mad I can't even think.
When we get back, I'm going to run down a few points that are key concerning how this goes into the whole North American Union system.
And then we'll go to Ed Haas and a lot more.
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We're going to go to Ed Haas with a big Part 2 report on 9-11 prior knowledge, pointing towards Israeli involvement somehow, and we're very close to getting the individual, the Israeli-American who was an Israeli Defense Force veteran himself, on the broadcast.
It's coming up here in just a few minutes.
Look, there's so much I could say about the Mexican troops and the paramilitary drug gangs shooting and killing and kidnapping and doing whatever they want.
In some cases, a thousand miles into U.S.
territory.
I mean, up in Indiana, it's happening.
It's happening in Washington.
It's happening in New York.
And they only put a few hundred National Guard on the border.
When they claimed they were going to build a fence, then they cancelled the fence.
That fence was dead on arrival.
You could read the legislation.
It just said, this legislation allows the federal government, if it wants to, to build fences.
Folks, if the federal bureaucracy that runs things, not Congress, wanted to build a fence, it'd do it.
Of course, Chertoff is killing the fence.
So, that's what's happening, and We have, uh, our government announcing in an order Bush has issued that Mexican illegal aliens working in this country will be paid Social Security.
You gotta love that.
They're illegal aliens, but the government's gonna mail them Social Security checks.
No questions asked.
They're felons, but that's okay.
And again, they go into the banks.
No.
The AP report.
I know Paul's in a story on this.
He's doing a rundown on this.
It needs to be in there.
You need to dig out that AP article.
There were several others.
The headline was something like, Lenders Help Immigrants.
Something like that.
And it went into how 500 big lenders don't ask for ID for housing, car, home loans, bank accounts.
And, you know, I mean, I get mad at the police.
They're just following the bureaucracy's orders.
Really, we should be mad at the New World Order.
We should be mad at the globalists.
They are using the third world population to break down this nation's sovereignty.
To have a voting bloc that will vote for gun control, for breakup of the U.S., for the North American Union.
The $24 billion or $23 billion funded Ford Foundation openly says they want no borders.
The U.N.
says they want no borders.
The Council on Foreign Relations in their SPP.gov agreements that they wrote that have been executed by the executive outside Congress's control state that we're going to have a common border with Mexico and Canada, so the border will be around North America, not national boundaries.
This is all part of the plan.
The Democrats are now in office starting their new legislative session.
And on the top of the agenda amongst restricting free speech and things of that nature, hate crimes laws, is the blanket amnesty known as the Guest Worker Program that legalizes all the illegals and lets corporations bring in unlimited skilled and unskilled workers.
So it won't just legalize all that are here or all that can get here, it will now allow them to bus and fly them in legally.
So it's the end of the border!
And it is encouraged by our narco-terrorist government with the narco-terrorist state of Mexico to keep it quiet that Mexican paramilitary forces, regular army, are attacking and shooting and killing and kidnapping and maiming.
Hell, every few months I read stuff out of South Texas, out of Arizona and Mexico where a dozen homes were burned last night by roving gangs of Mexicans.
Can you imagine if roving gangs of whites were running around burning 12 black houses?
It'd be national news, and it should be!
Can you imagine if whites were out burning Mexicans' houses?
We basically have the plan of San Diego being implemented.
If you don't know what that is, Google it.
On our border, right now, and our government loves it!
They're killing this country!
As David Rockefeller wrote in his memoirs three years ago, that they want to end U.S.
sovereignty by hook or by crook!
And so this is the type of reports I have here in front of me.
U.S.-Mexico pact revealed billions to non-citizens.
Government forced Guard troops to flee Border Patrol post-AP.
Arizona Daily Star, Armed Group Forces Guard to Fleet Post, on border, Mexican soldiers freelancing for drug cartels on U.S.
soil, CNS News, this is a good report.
And again, I've had the sheriff's on, who, two, three miles over the border, Mexican regular army, admin in their army, walk up with machine guns, and say, you will give us the dump truck full of marijuana back, or we're gonna kill you!
And what do our sheriffs say?
They say, yes sir, boss!
unidentified
How high do you want me to jump?
alex jones
I'll just go run some checkpoints down the road on citizens.
They're a bunch of sheep.
They'll put up with it.
Oh, man.
Alright, I'm going to shut up and get our guest.
Later, I'm going to get into the fact that a huge bomb went off in Madrid, Spain over the weekend.
And I've talked to a bunch of people.
Nobody knows about it.
I didn't learn about it until yesterday.
I'm ashamed.
unidentified
And that's the control of the media.
alex jones
There were a bunch of bombings in Asia over the New Years, but because they weren't connected to Muslims, because they were real terrorist attacks, and I'm not saying they're in terrorism, ladies and gents, there's lots of it.
There have been over a hundred terror attacks in the U.S.
the last ten years, but they're never called that.
unidentified
You talk to any FBI, any police, they'll tell you.
alex jones
Oh yeah, but we're not allowed to talk about it.
unidentified
Why?
alex jones
Because they're real.
And later all that time, I'll get into why that is.
It's so sick.
But boy, when our government does an attack, you're going to hear about it forever.
It's going to be Hollywood.
It's going to be spectacular.
But some bass could blow something up in Spain.
You're not going to hear anything.
Or if something happens over in Thailand, and it's the military out of power doing it to the current military coup, you're not going to hear about it.
Okay.
I appreciate Ed Haas coming on.
I have gotten in contact with the source.
We're vetting all of it.
I think the best thing to do here is just recap What the story is, the fact that the guy did go to the FBI, that's on record.
He did warn the FBI.
This isn't just, oh, you know, Alex is reporting on some rumor of some guy that claims he heard people speaking in Hebrew at a Jewish cemetery in New Jersey.
About how the towers were going to get knocked down in September, and then that's all our proof.
We have the FBI letters, the letterhead, the phone calls made to the FBI agents who said they're not allowed to talk about it.
We know he did write these letters to them.
We know they got letters back.
We know he met with FBI.
And now I've talked to the individual.
That is, I've got his name and number.
He's called me.
I've called him.
We're playing phone tag.
We're getting him on the show soon.
Ed Haas has talked to him many times, but I've got his name and all the info now.
Ed Haas, thanks for coming on with us.
unidentified
Yeah, Alex, thanks a lot.
It's good to be with you again.
alex jones
You know, we got links to the Muckraker Report right now up on InfoWars.com.
We're going to clone your story for posterity up on InfoWars, and now you've got the photos of this.
Recap what happened, and then give us the latest update, and how long until we can get this guest on air.
unidentified
Well, the recap is October of 2000.
This individual's in a cemetery in Elizabeth.
Or Newark, New Jersey.
Apparently it's right on the city line between those two cities.
He's in the cemetery.
He's clipping English ivy.
He overhears a conversation in Hebrew.
He had described the cemetery logistics to me in my first article.
What he had heard and what he had quoted to me was individual speaking and the statement, the Americans will learn.
What it is to live with terrorists after the planes hit the Twins in September.
This is in October of 2000.
He hears this.
Goes through the process of trying to share this information with the FBI.
He was asking for protection in exchange for this information.
He is former IDF veteran of the Yom Kippur War.
And He showed me letters that he received from the FBI, which you now have.
He showed me two business cards that the FBI agents left with him.
And, you know, I wrote the first story.
And after I wrote the first story about this information, a reader of the Mockraker Report, who lived up in New York, emailed me and said, I don't live far from the cemetery.
I'm going to go down and take pictures.
alex jones
Sure enough, there's the English Ivy, there's the wall he was behind when he heard him saying all this.
unidentified
There's everything.
My point in the second article is, there were definitely some critics and naysayers on the first article, and my point in the second article is, Anybody who wanted to make up a story like this, certainly I'll concede that if they were really planning this thing out, I guess you could go to a cemetery or you could pick any location and use it as your backdrop.
But I ask questions in the second article like, you know, why make it about English Ivy?
You know, if you're going to create a hoax, who thinks about saying He's an American Jewish person.
He was in a Jewish cemetery.
Why make it about English Ivy?
I talk about the business cards.
Some people on the first article said, well, anybody create FBI business cards.
And that's true.
alex jones
But you called the FBI!
unidentified
Right, right.
alex jones
I saw the pieces attacking your piece, but they didn't legitimately go, you could fake those cards.
You could fake... We posted the cards with the numbers, with the FBI letters.
unidentified
What's interesting about the cards, Alex, is the cards, each card that was left with him, the phone numbers had changed.
And so they crossed out the last four digits of their phone number and wrote in the correct number.
We see that on business cards all the time.
And then each, but each handwriting is different.
And so my argument to people is, you know, if I'm going to create a fake card of two individuals, fake business cards, You have to be a pathological liar, in my opinion, to say, let's make it more authentic by changing the phone numbers and have two different individuals write those numbers on it.
alex jones
But I mean, Ed, let me stop you.
This is the way the internet works, and that's fine, because people need it.
But the criticisms of your story really weren't legitimate, so I don't even know why we're spending time on it.
I mean, look, I can put a video up or link to a video of Dick Cheney saying he's a CFR former chairman, saying that he kept it secret from his constituents, and people say that it's a fake video and Dick Cheney was never a member when he's listed as a member and a former co-chairman on their website.
I mean, let me stop you.
You know, it's like Police State 2000.
I went and videotaped Marines trying to take our guns, admitting it was for American citizens, the Coronado troop ship coming in, hovercraft landing, armored vehicles, tanks, helicopters, and people still say it's fake and isn't real.
You can go to the Marine Corps' website and see their own photos where they talk about it.
So, I mean, at a certain point, you know, reporting on people in denial really, I mean, the point is you've gone and vetted this story even more.
unidentified
I did a Freedom of Information Act request, and I got a response from the FBI, and it was pretty quick.
alex jones
Well, I mean, regardless, the FBI admits they talked to this guy.
They just won't say why, and they won't talk about the case.
Again, you called the FBI, now you've got letters from the FBI.
I don't know what people are looking for.
unidentified
Right.
Well, they asked for a waiver, a privacy waiver from the individual, the source of this information, and I called him up and said, would you be willing to sign a privacy waiver?
That allows the FBI to release any documentation that they may have with your name on it, related to this story.
He said yes.
I mailed him the waiver form, he signed it, he mailed it right back to me, and I've now forwarded that waiver to the FBI.
So, I'm prepared, if necessary, to go to court with the FBI to get these documents, because I believe they exist.
alex jones
Well, regardless, the FBI wrote these letters.
They admit these letters are real.
The business cards are real.
You called the FBI.
The agents did work there at the time.
This guy is scared for his life.
He should be.
He heard this, he's saying.
And, you know, I'd give the story a 95% credibility rating.
There's a small chance it could be some elaborate disinfo, but why would Israel want to put out info that they were involved?
That they wouldn't!
They would want the complete opposite, Ed!
I mean, I don't like particularly reporting this story.
You get a lot of heat doing stuff like this.
But, you know, we've got to because it's got so much credibility.
And I've been watching you for a couple years, Ed.
You've done a lot of good, serious reporting yourself.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
I mean, you look at quack sites, all they do is attack each other and put out disinfo.
I mean, you can go look at those.
I mean, you can find out who's doing what real quick by looking at a site.
You've just been doing mainline reporting and, you know, you've vetted this for months and months.
You didn't just run with this the first time you heard it.
unidentified
Right.
I'm anxious for you to talk to the individual.
I mean, the thing that's impressed me about him the most, Alex, is anytime we talk about this in great length, some of our calls are short, some of them are pretty long, he still feels terrible.
Because he feels as though he could have stopped it.
alex jones
Now, let's be clear.
He went to the FBI three separate times, and he got a visit from them, and he kept telling them about what he saw, what he heard, and they did nothing.
And now you talk to the FBI agent, you talk to the female agent, and she told you that she can't talk, she'd get in trouble.
Repeat that conversation.
Tell the listeners her name again.
unidentified
Her name is Robin Gritz.
And I called her directly, and in about a five day span I was making a lot of quick phone calls to the FBI, and I decided to call her directly.
And when I finally got her on the phone, it had only been five days since my first inquiry at the NORC division, and she now works headquarters FBI.
alex jones
And I got her on the phone and she was... And she said there's already been meetings about this and that she wasn't allowed to talk or she'd get in trouble.
They're having meetings!
unidentified
She knew about my inquiries because she, when I asked, I introduced myself, she said, I believe our public affairs office is taking care of this for you.
I said, well, I just decided to call you directly.
And that's what she said.
I am, I am unable to talk to you about this.
I would get in trouble.
alex jones
That is, that is smoking gun right there.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
I mean that is, because the FBI will tell you if there's been a case.
No, we don't have a case with this individual.
We do.
Well, now you've given them the release, for them to release his personal info.
Stay there Ed Haas.
unidentified
I will.
alex jones
Part two of the report, photos.
The cemetery and a lot more are up on InfoWars.com right now.
We've got a link to the Muckraker Report as well.
This is an important story.
That's why we're covering it.
unidentified
It's here.
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I even had the police chief on who had them arrested.
And he didn't want to... I got him on about one subject.
He also believes Americans should be forced to take microchips.
Remember that, folks?
And then I got him on for that subject and brought up the Israeli story with him.
And all I've ever said is, Israel couldn't carry out the entire operation.
That'd be like if four guys robbed a bank.
And, you know, I'm saying there was a British guy, an American guy, an Israeli guy there, and somebody else.
And somebody goes, wait, you're giving the American a pass, you're giving the Israeli a pass.
We don't give anybody a pass.
We're going to what the facts show.
Clearly Dick Cheney was in control and ordered NORAD to stand down.
Clearly two months before he took the power of the generals to shoot aircraft down away.
Clearly Bush had troops massed in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan in the months before with the launch order to attack Afghanistan on his desk the day before Newsweek reported, September 10th.
And hundreds of other points.
The White House called Mayor Willie Brown, told him not to fly.
FAA called Solomon Rushdie, told him not to fly.
The CIA was running drills with NORAD of flying hijacked jets in the World Trade Center and Pentagon that morning.
FEMA was running tripod 2 drill with building 7, moving the command center out to the end of the pier that day.
Hundreds of other points.
That's all we're saying is that these global agencies are all together.
Criminal elements in a pyramidal structure nexus at the top.
And clearly Otago, Instant Message Service, admits that they gave the call hours before to get their employees out from Tel Aviv to New York.
We reported on that.
Put it in my films.
So this is what the new order tries to do.
They try to get you to say it's one group or the other.
You know, it's either the Jews, or the Catholics, or it's the Protestants, or it's the devil cult, or it's the... No, it's evil people from each group working together in the New World Order structure.
But they... the globalists, though, want to make it all about a specific group, racially, or ethnically, or religiously, so that they can then either just demonize that one group, and then minimize the effect of the whole structure being defeated.
All right.
Going back to Ed Haas, who I appreciate coming on with this.
Ed, I think it's an important story, and I've looked at it carefully.
If it is disinfo, it's pointless for the establishment.
This guy is on record contacting the FBI and telling them this before.
Why on earth would they want this out there if it was disinfo, Ed Haas?
unidentified
I agree with you 100% with what you just described, and I try to articulate that in this article.
This is about prior knowledge.
This isn't the only case of prior knowledge.
You just rattled off 25 examples of prior knowledge.
You know, my argument always is prior knowledge means, at minimum, criminally negligent homicide.
You know, if you have prior knowledge of something that's going to happen, that's going to endanger or kill people, and you do nothing with it, There's laws on the books that say that's illegal.
This is about prior knowledge and who had prior knowledge and who profited from it.
And you just listed so many examples of prior knowledge and you know sometimes I get frustrated because I sit here and go, why?
What is it?
What is it about our system now that's preventing real criminal investigation and people I always tell, you know, I make the argument if you and I had this information and it was revealed, this prior knowledge information, the government would have us in jail.
Mosawi's in prison for prior knowledge, the alleged 20th hijacker.
They got him on so-called prior knowledge.
The evidence in his case seems pretty minuscule to the evidence that the American people have on the real prior knowledge of this event.
alex jones
Exactly.
Stay there, Ed.
70-second break.
We'll come right back to you for five more minutes to finish up.
We'll be right back.
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We are now In to hour number two, coming up at the bottom of the hour, Webster Griffin Tarpley will be joining us to give us an overview of what's happening in world events from his perspective with Iran, the economy, and Gerald Ford's connection to the Bushes and the crime syndicate that took over when they stabbed Nixon in the back.
And then in the third hour, Tony Gosling, expert on the Bilderberg Group, will be joining us.
Ed Haas is with us for the next four minutes or so.
Ed, at the Muckraker Report, wrote a great report about an Israeli-American who, for at least six months before the 9-11 attacks, on record reported to the FBI that he heard men speaking in Hebrew at a cemetery behind a wall, talking about how when the towers get knocked down in September, the Americans will know what it's like to be hit by a terrorist, and it went on from there.
Now, we've called the FBI.
They won't talk about it.
He's done a four-year request.
But we've got the letters from him.
They won't deny that that's their letters to this man.
If this story is real, which all the evidence indicates it is, it is a big story, and that's why we're covering it.
And that's why the feds out there that pose as the anti-Zionist are very upset about this report.
Okay, because their real job is meant to make anybody who criticizes Israel look like a complete idiot.
That's why everything they write sounds completely nutty and paranoid.
That's why they attack all these innocent people.
This is very sophisticated stuff that we're up against, but the good news is people are seeing right through it.
I want to make it clear.
I believe that elements of Shin Bet and Mossad were involved in 9-11.
Now, the disinfo groups out there want you to think it was either one group or the other.
No, it's like if four guys rob the bank and one of them is an Israeli, he's just as guilty for being involved in the conspiracy as the other three parties.
But no, they would claim that if you say the U.S.
government's involved in any way, which they're clearly involved in more than any other group, then you're somehow covering up.
No, we're going after all the evidence.
The last three minutes we've got left, Ed, close up with any other key info on your part two of the story that's now up on your site.
unidentified
It's important for everybody to, and you mentioned this earlier in this segment, is that there's good people and bad people in every culture.
And I, too, am not going to steer away from any story or any evidence because it might look badly on one particular group.
What frustrates me is, you know, we can write about the mafia, and we can We've been taught this association of Italians and Mafia.
But when we hear that story, we don't say, oh, Italians are members of Mafia.
And it's interesting, whenever something is, you know, just saying that a conversation was overheard in Hebrew, the conclusion is that, you know, I'm saying Israel did it.
And that's just nuts.
I mean, there are elements, bad elements of people And I agree with you, all these intelligence apparatuses around the world, they are interwoven.
And they work together, and that doesn't mean that Israel did 9-11.
It just means that some people that spoke in Hebrew had prior knowledge of 9-11.
alex jones
And it doesn't mean the U.S.
government itself did it.
What we always say, criminal elements working in unison against the people.
And then, by telling the truth, we can get Jews, Catholics, Americans, Germans on board against the crime syndicate instead of doing what the establishment wants Making it racial or trying to blame one group, then they can come in and neutralize us.
unidentified
Absolutely right.
Absolutely right.
And that's what I try to convey, and readers have to understand that.
alex jones
I know you got it from both sides, either those saying somehow this is covering up for Israel, that's really mental gymnastics, or those saying you're attacking Israel, and all you're doing is getting a story, you call the FBI, You've confirmed the story so far.
It's admitted that he talked to them.
They just won't say what about.
He's on record warning them.
This is a big story.
That's muckrecordreport.com.
Links to it on infowars.com.
We'll talk to you soon, Ed.
Let me talk to you real fast during the break.
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Okay.
It's here.
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alex jones
We got Tony Gosling, who's got the website Bilderberg.org.
He's been running it for many years.
It's really the definitive site on it.
I'm making a film about Bilderberg Group.
Well, more than just Bilderberg, the Global Masters right now.
And we'll be picking his brain about Diana, about Prince Charles, about the New World Order system coming up the next hour.
In about 25 minutes, we've got a short half-hour interview with Webster Griffin Tarpley coming up with a world overview in 2007, and also the coup d'etat that the Bush crime syndicate ran when they overthrew Nixon in 1974 and brought in the late Gerald Ford, so that's coming up.
We've got a short interview here with Marty from Calvin's Soap here in just a second, then I'll get into the big bombing, bombings, both in Asia and of course in Europe in the last week.
We heard some about the stuff in Thailand, but almost nothing about what happened in Madrid last Saturday.
So that's coming up.
Right now, Marty from Calbin Soap joins us, but I first want to say this before we bring Marty up.
I turn down advertisers every single day.
I mean, we get tons of advertising requests here, and I mean, for all I know, some machine that sends out some wavelength that's going to heal you might work, but if I can't prove it works, if I don't know somebody it's worked on, I'm not going to endorse it.
Or for all I know, some cream might get rid of wrinkles.
Well, for all I know, some pill might get rid of, you know, problems.
But if I don't know it works, and if I don't know it's a good deal, I mean, take fish oil.
We got a link to people that sell fish oil.
I know fish oil is really good for you, so I promote it.
Okay?
I mean, really, I'm into simple things.
High-quality, made-in-America water filters.
Documentary films.
I promote things that I know are real.
And I'm not saying other people's push isn't real, I'm just not going to sit here and endorse it.
Most of you already know the story, but I want to tell it again.
About two and a half years ago, there was a sponsor on the Genesis Network, Calvin Pure Soap, and somehow Marty had heard that I had the biggest show on the network, so he sent me a year's supply of soap.
And the stuff ran out in about a year and a half.
And my wife said, I want more of that.
I don't have the box anymore.
Get me more.
And I said, she said, where do I buy it?
And I said, all the networks send it.
You like it?
And she said, oh yeah, I've been using it for shampoo.
I've been using the bar soap.
You know that bar soap smells so good.
I've been using it on the clothes.
We've got to be real careful or the kids will break out if we use chemical detergents.
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So we ordered some more.
alex jones
And then I just thought, you know, this stuff's so good, and it's so cheap, I ought to call him up and say, why don't you sponsor the show?
So I did, and Marty said, yeah, that's why I sent you this up, I thought you'd like it.
And sure enough, you know, two years later, he ended up being a sponsor.
And folks, you save 85% off supermarket prices, because it's triple concentrated, and you don't pay a middleman, you're getting it factory direct from the family, that for 60 years, 60 years.
His father started it.
He runs it.
His son runs it.
Marty does an excellent job.
And they've got a little sampler pack of basically some of their top products for $16 a month supply.
They've got year supplies, two year supplies, three year supplies.
I had seen their soap one time before when I was in a higher end hotel in D.C.
about many years ago on a trip with my parents.
And I've since seen it a few other places.
Before he started selling it, I don't know, five, six years ago to the general public, you only saw it in high-end hotels and in hospitals, because they're not stupid.
They know what a good deal is, they like to buy factory direct, and they want something that won't cause their customers problems.
So, it's made in America.
It supports freedom in this show.
It saves you 85% off the toxic stuff that's made by the chemical companies.
Most of it's petrochemical derived.
It's very bad for your skin, bad for your clothes, and it's expensive.
And you're totally insane if you don't use Calvin Peirce soap.
Now, we still buy some other organic materials.
Frankly, it's because we're busy and we end up not getting on the phone and ordering the product when we run out of it.
We're all like that.
And we go to Whole Foods or we go to the other big organic stores here in Austin.
We're blessed to have those.
Central Market and other organic soaps that aren't as good will be twice as much as inorganic trash at the supermarket.
And then this stuff is 15% the cost of that.
Of just the regular stuff.
So, for those that already use organics, they've been organic since they were founded.
Marty, thanks for coming on with us.
Tell us about the founding of the company.
I want to hear about that today, and then give folks a toll-free number or the website.
marty schachter
Well, Alex, I appreciate you inviting me again to talk to you and your audience.
Basically, the whole concept of what we've done is two words, and that's called choice and value.
And when I got out of the Army, I was in Japan for a year in 1947.
My father retired from civil service, and we were looking around what we could do together.
And we went to the supermarkets and looking at all the chemicals and detergents, and we noticed soap was not available anymore.
Everything converted over to detergents.
And we thought, hey, wouldn't this be something we started the soap business?
But we had no way of getting to the consumer.
It was all tied up by Procter, Lever, and Colgate.
So we decided to go commercial.
We sold hospitals and schools and convalescent homes, retirement centers.
This is what we can get to a purchasing agent.
We could demo and sample and we can get sales.
And it was only about, I'd say, three years ago that we got a call from Michael Trudeau of Genesis Communication Network.
And he invited us to be on the radio.
And he said, gee, what a It never occurred to us that we could do that, to talk direct to the consumer, from our factory, to the family.
And that basically gave us the concept of four basic products, bath soap, air soap, dish soap, and laundry soap.
And now there's 200 jobs!
You don't need the window cleaners, and the floor cleaners, and the all-purpose cleaners, and the chemicals, and the solvents.
I gotta tell you about the newest thing in chemicals, I just got my newest copy of Consumer Reports, and I'm going to quote you from them.
alex jones
Oh, I got my copy, too, about how the child seats are so dangerous.
Only two brands actually save kids, but sorry.
Side issue.
Go ahead.
marty schachter
Page 43 of the newest issue talks about laundry detergents.
Now, this is a blessing that they're giving the American public for the New Year.
And it says the chemicals in laundry detergents that clean clothing are called surfactants.
But in the case of at least one type, surfactant is also a dirty word.
Non-phenol ethyl oxalates, also known as NPE, are recognized by the EPA as toxic to plants and animals and damage to the aquatic ecosystem.
They're also banned in parts of the European Union.
But some detergents made in the US contain these chemicals because they cost less.
Another bonus for the consumer of a toxic chemical in laundry detergent.
alex jones
Well, Marty, also the detergent you use to wash clothes, eat your clothes.
You won't even need that lint bend anymore when you start using Cal Bend Pure Soap.
And you don't have animal fat in your stuff.
It's all organic.
And you've got oils out of different nuts, out of different citrus, out of vegetables.
This is super high quality and because there's not all the middlemen and the billions of dollars of advertising like Procter & Gamble, you save 85% off supermarket costs.
Folks, you need to give Marty a call right now.
Get a free catalog or get the $16 sampler pack.
It is so important for everybody out there to give Marty a call right now.
1-800-340-7091, 1-800-340-7091, or calbempuresoap.com, or fivestarsoap.com, or link through via InfoWars.
On InfoWars, we have a big banner on the left-hand side.
We have text links on prisonplanet.com.
But everybody needs to call that toll-free number today to stop procrastinating, 800-340-7091, or you can go to calbempuresoap.com, or fivestarsoap.com. - Okay.
Marty, any other reasons people should get your soap?
marty schachter
Well, one, it's factory direct.
Two, they're pure soaps.
Not detergents, but soaps from the olden 18th, 19th, and 20th century.
They do a better job.
You have longevity of your clothing.
Your skin will feel alive again.
Your hair will be refreshed again.
Your dishes and washing them by hand.
You don't have to wear gloves.
Because it doesn't hurt, harm, it's all natural, it's pollution free, and we've been doing this, and this is our year, the 60th year of getting soap back into the home again, and saying to Proctor, Lever, and Colgate, I don't need you anymore!
alex jones
That's right, you guys started in 1947, so you're now celebrating your 60th year.
marty schachter
And our slogan here is, our business is going down the drain.
alex jones
All right, Marty.
CalvinPierceSoap.com or FiveStarSoap.com or 1-800-340-7091.
Thanks for coming on, Marty, and we'll talk to you again.
marty schachter
I'd like to leave a thought for today.
The thought for today is sex on television is not harmful unless you fall off.
alex jones
Take care, my friend.
marty schachter
Thank you, Alex.
alex jones
All right.
Good to talk to Marty.
What a character.
And we like to bring good products, and he comes on with us once a month, so there's his visit.
And we believe in it.
It'll save you money, it'll save your skin.
I tell you folks, if I use just regular soap on my face, you know, you're all dry, all crackly.
It doesn't with this.
So give Marty a call, folks.
Alright, when we get back, I'm going to get into the big Madrid bombing.
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And no, I'm not talking about the one on 311.
alex jones
I'm talking about the Madrid bombing last weekend that no one seems to know about.
I mean, I am ashamed of the fact That I didn't know about this, and everybody I knew didn't know about this.
And it's just an illustration, just like really no one's going to hear about the Mexican troops attacking on a routine basis.
The media is there to scare you about things that don't exist, or very small threats, and to cover up real threats.
And they'll always tell you that they're going to be your savior, but they've got all the answers.
We'll be right back.
Webster Tarpon is coming up, too.
We'll also take calls later.
And we'll go into Billy Bird group in the third hour.
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Terror is trivial when it's not Muslims.
Madrid airport bombing received scant attention by Paul Watson.
How many people who aren't news junkies know that Madrid airport was bombed on Saturday?
Folks, I didn't know until I saw this story yesterday afternoon.
Relatively few, I would venture, and that's because major western governments and their media mouthpieces don't hype terror unless they can claim Muslims are behind it.
I personally only caught the story a couple days after it happened on the obscure channel on UK digital satellite called Euronews.
Operatives of the Basque Separatist Organization, ETA, packed 800 kilograms of explosives into a car bomb that ripped apart the parking lot of the Madrid airport, killing two and injuring twelve people.
Twenty people.
I mean, it blew out a whole bunch.
I'm looking at, like, three floors completely blown away.
Now imagine if Al-Qaeda or Al-Qaeda bombed Heathrow or LAX.
You'd never hear the end of it.
Oh, they'd have a yearly remembrance, and it'd be just cover of everything.
There'd be flags at half-mast, children crying.
Now imagine if LCIA had bombed Heathrow or LAX.
You'd never hear the end of it.
The news would be on it 24-7, and entering an airport would be akin to checking into a concentration camp.
And yet Saturday's blast was greeted by little more than bylines and muted dismissals by the mainstream media.
And that's because it's probably real.
The Basque are blowing stuff up constantly.
It's their war.
You can argue it's how they militarily fight back, because their region is always being dominated.
I'm not defending it.
My point is that when you have real terrorism, governments keep it very quiet, because you don't want to give terrorists attention.
That empowers them to do more of it.
Only if you are the terrorist, or you're using what they did for control against another target, do you hype it.
That was in the anti-terror handbooks ten, twenty years ago.
I've read them.
How do you deal with terrorism?
You ignore it.
You don't give it attention.
You don't let their fear spread.
But if your government are the terrorist, or hire terrorists, you get the opposite.
Before 9-11, terrorism was seen through the prism of criminal problems because fewer people lose their lives as a result of that than those who get struck by lightning.
We have another article out today about how peanuts kill more every year in the U.S.
than terrorism.
But see, now they're changing the definition of terror as a ball of crime.
There have been just 2,929 terror-induced deaths since 9-11.
According to the Bush administration's own numbers, and more people every year die in swimming pool accidents, hardly the mega-threat to Western society that many have portrayed.
Put it in context, Saturday's bombing would not have made the top of the news because like all terrorism that occurs in the West, it is extremely rare, random, like murder, rape, or theft, is impossible to ever truly prevent.
But in the post-911 world, the artificial creation and maintenance of the myth of Islamofascism is dependent on ceaseless obsession with the imminent threat of Muslim terror, while leaving the border open and bringing in record numbers of them.
I would add that, you know, it's such a big threat, why are you bringing in record numbers?
And it goes on.
And that's why something like the Madrid airport bombing would have been shoved down the throats until Kingdom Come, but only if Muslims weren't behind it.
Terror attacks like Saturdays become mere precursors to the, and finally, puff piece if they can't be pinned on Islamofascist and the scam recycle.
It's almost a national emergency nowadays if Muslims, God forbid, are seen praying on an airplane.
And their every action is being scrutinized as a foreboding for the apocalypse, which only breeds suspicion across all of society and has turned the land of the free, the United States, into the land of hysteria.
Swimming pools kill more Americans than terrorists today, Muslim or otherwise.
Fear is a lie.
Good story by Paul Watson up on PrisonPlanet.com.
And it's the same thing with the open borders and the crime spree and the rocket attacks and the car bombs in Texas.
It's kept quiet and you tell the average cop, I've talked to cops, hey have you heard about all the problems on the border?
Have you heard about the rocket attacks?
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Huh?
alex jones
Rocket attack?
I've even asked police out on the street, what are you talking about?
And the citizens certainly don't know anything about it.
But oh my gosh, Al Qaeda is everywhere!
They're gonna get us!
We better let Bush read our mail!
We better let him track all our cell phones!
We better have FBI and CIA over all these fusion centers, these emergency management centers!
Every bureaucrat and every citizen better act like Jack Bauer and look under every table!
And there's long fanged Al Qaeda members under every table, in every closet, under every bed, ready to bite you as soon as you turn away!
Just amazing.
And then they found 220 pounds of explosives in Spain.
Amongst other reports.
Amazing.
Absolutely amazing.
Alright, we'll come back with Webster Griffin Tarpley to get his update and his view on 2007 coming up.
And to talk about Gerald Ford and George Herbert Walker.
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Alright, let's go to Webster Griffin Tarpley for the next 25 minutes or so.
And he joins us from his home in Washington, D.C.
Webster, I want to get your take on what we see coming up in 2007, the neocons, Iran, the Saddam execution.
But before we do that, I know you're a real expert on the Bush junta and how they really came to power by stabbing Nixon in the back.
You've written books and articles on the subject.
So, Happy New Year to you and good to have you on with us.
webster tarpley
Thank you Alex.
Happy New Year to you and Happy New Year to your listeners.
alex jones
Webster, tell us, you've written some articles about this and you've also got great analysis on it.
webster tarpley
Tell us about what happened back in 1974 with Gerald Ford Well, I think the first thing is we've just had this attempt to rewrite history around Gerald Ford, and naturally our sympathies go to the bereaved family, but we cannot allow this tremendous lying campaign to stand.
Gerald Ford was a loyal servant of the invisible government.
He was essentially a stooge of the banking faction in Wall Street that runs the United States.
And that's basically his career, and in particular, to understand what he did, you've got to understand what Watergate was.
A lot of people, especially leftists, have bought into this myth about two crusading journalists who love democracy, and the lovable curmudgeon editor who lets them put this in the Washington Post, and they bring down this tremendously powerful machine in the White House.
It's sort of David and Goliath, with Woodward and Bernstein being the David.
This is absolutely ridiculous.
Watergate is a coup d'etat carried out by the intelligence community against a throwaway puppet, a villain of course, a criminal certainly, Richard Nixon.
But the main thing to focus on is that this tended to consolidate and increase the power of the secret intelligence agencies over the United States.
Just a couple of notes on this.
It all starts with leaks.
It starts with the leaking of the Pentagon Papers and other leaks.
Fine.
Who did the Pentagon Papers?
Daniel Ellsberg of the RAND Corporation with a top-secret security clearance.
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This is Henry Kissinger with strong ties to British intelligence, a protege of Nelson Rockefeller, and therefore that entire intelligence community faction.
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Well, two of the most prominent CIA agents of the Cold War, Howard Hunt, above all, who had been in Guatemala, the Kennedy assassination, and so forth.
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Who's Bob Woodward?
He is from the Office of Naval Intelligence.
He is somebody who was the intelligence officer for one of the floating command posts.
Very interesting, right?
In case of thermonuclear war, the president can go to a land bunker.
alex jones
So it's all these key shadow government individuals.
I should also add that Ms.
Graham was one of the head Bilderberg group members, attended every meeting.
Her husband before that, Donald Graham, had been one of the co-chairmen.
So, this is the incredible thoroughbred of old line establishment propaganda media running the whole operation against Nixon, who at the end was starting to balk And some of the things that the globalists wanted to do, so it was perfect for them.
So really, I guess a coup d'etat against the presidency.
The presidency had been corrupt previously, but now this is the intelligence agencies with the private networks fully discrediting the office of the presidency and taking it over.
webster tarpley
The Washington Post, I think you have to see what the Washington Post is, in addition to what Watergate is.
Eugene Meyer is the founder of the modern-day Washington Post.
He was in the Federal Reserve.
When Franklin D. Roosevelt rightly dumped the British-dominated gold standard in 1933, Eugene Meyer says, this is the end of the world.
We've got to reassert the domination of financiers against the Roosevelt New Deal.
I'm going to Washington.
I'm going to create a newspaper that will fight Roosevelt and everything that he stands for.
Therefore, you look at the Washington Post.
It is the house organ of the Federal Reserve System and of the financiers.
And their vested interest is a weak, passive presidency, so that the financiers and the Federal Reserve can run wild and run the country, and that's basically what it is.
So then their reporter, Bob Woodward of the Office of Naval Intelligence, with his cosmic intelligence clearance, gets leaks from Mark Felt of the FBI.
They get the hearings going, then John Dean comes forward with his revelations, and this guy Alexander Butterfield, who says, oh, by the way, there's a taping system in the White House.
And then it goes down to the smoking gun tape.
Now, most people have forgotten what's in the smoking gun tape.
In the smoking gun tape, Nixon is talking about a plan for obstruction of justice and perjury.
And he says, those Texans have got to say this, that, and the other thing.
The Texans, the Texans.
Who are the Texans he's talking about?
Well, George H.W.
Bush and his partner, Liedtke, from Pennzoil.
Those are the Texans who were laundering money from Texas to Mexico and then into the coffers of the committee to re-elect the president.
alex jones
And of course, Bush had been CIA director, ambassador to China.
He'd also been a congressman.
webster tarpley
He'll say that later.
This is now, after this.
The CIA director comes later, ambassador to China.
These are things in 75-76.
The contributions in question are from 71-72 for the re-election campaign of Nixon.
So therefore, when Gerald Ford is told by Nelson Rockefeller that he has just appointed His vice president, a very risky thing to do.
Rockefeller tells Ford, you've got to pardon Nixon.
Why?
Not for humanitarian concern about Nixon, and certainly not to heal a country or any of this other maudlin sentimentality that we've been hearing.
The goal is that if you put Nixon's back to the wall, his legal defense may be to fight back against a conspiracy For a coup d'etat, with all of these agencies.
alex jones
Which is what Nixon was starting to tell his confidants, and now we hear he was paranoid, he was insane, he was delusional, but really it was just the truth.
webster tarpley
Well, I don't have very much tenderness or optimism about Nixon as a figure, but the fact is, this is what happened.
It is a coup d'etat, Nixon was entrapped, obviously his His proclivity to engage in illegal behavior came into play.
That's also clear.
But the essence of the matter is, the goal of this entire operation was to permanently weaken the office of the presidency, to weaken the government as a whole.
alex jones
Well, that's what Clinton was also meant to do on an ongoing basis, but let's go back.
We also have Gerald Ford being selected because he was on the Warren Commission, and what do you think of the nerve at the D.C.
funeral, one of three or four, We have to remember, Lyndon B. Johnson once said, Gerald Ford is so stupid that he can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
Something else happened with JFK.
It was a lone nut gunman, and this is proven by the incredible Gerald Ford, who everybody knows, word is the truth.
I mean, this is...
webster tarpley
We have to remember, Lyndon B. Johnson once said, Gerald Ford is so stupid that he can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
That's what comes of playing all those football games with no helmet.
I would also cite the right-wing reactionary editor of the Manchester Union leader in New Hampshire, William Loeb, and his name for the deceased former president, Jerry the Jerk.
He'd say, Jerry the Jerk just came to town.
So imagine Johnson.
He knows that Ford is this imbecile, basically, and he puts him on the Warren Commission.
This doesn't indicate that he really expects the Warren Commission to do very much.
Ford is on there as a filler, as a hand-raiser, as somebody who can simply be counted on to approve whatever Allen Dulles and John J. McCloy... Why do you think Bush Sr.
alex jones
would shoot his mouth off like that on national television?
webster tarpley
Well, of course, Bush Sr.
is up to his neck in it, in the sense that he is... No, clearly involved in the JFK assassination, clearly involved in Bay of Pigs, that's the point I'm making.
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alex jones
I mean, is it just doddering, or is there some arrogant Machiavellian reason he did this?
webster tarpley
Well, you know, one of the great phrases of Watergate is, all the trees in the forest will fall, and I'm convinced that if 9-11 truth comes out, We break through the question of the 9-11 conspiracy.
You will then see that being taken back in time to include things like the Kennedy assassination, the Gulf of Tonkin, the Vietnam War, and a whole series of other tremendous crimes.
Iran-Contra really ought to be reopened in the light of Negroponte and Gates and people like this being so prominent.
All the trees in the forest must fall, and once you begin to pull on this cord of the invisible government, the rogue network, the secret team, you begin to then get a new view of all of these things.
And maybe that's what Bush the Elder is concerned about.
A couple of other things about Ford.
The pardon is obviously to protect the machine that had taken power.
It's also interesting That all of these invisible government heavies that we see around today get their start under Ford.
People like Cheney, Rumsfeld, Greenspan, Bremer, the guy who destroyed Iraq, Bush.
Bush the Elder, of course, is... Bush the Elder tries to become Vice President.
It's a forgotten episode.
In August of 1974, the Vice Presidency was vacant when Ford moved up.
And there was a contest at that point between Nelson Rockefeller and George Bush the Elder to see which of them Would become vice president.
So whichever way Ford went, he was obviously in trouble.
It went to Rockefeller, and that then cleared the way for Sarah Jane Moore and Lynette Squeaky Fromme to either produce a pistol in the precinct of the president or to take a pot shot at him in the other case.
And of course, the beneficiary of those assassination attempts would have been Nelson Rockefeller.
Obviously, you know, chase Manhattan, Standard Oil, CIA faction, Committee for Latin American Intelligence during World War II, and so forth.
So if you want to be president, don't have one of these financier types.
alex jones
And then we can walk this right through as the better enemies, Reagan and Bush Sr., and then as soon as they get in, they shoot Reagan.
I want to talk a little bit about that, then I want to look forward and get a few of your predictions for 2007.
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Alright, welcome back.
We're at WebShore.
This is about five minutes to the next hour.
Then we've got Tony Gosling of Vildenburg.
to give us some amazing information coming up in the third hour on this live Friday edition.
Webster finishing up, let's talk about how Bush Sr. then got in with Reagan.
It's admitted that he hated Reagan.
Reagan had said he was a horrible CFR globalist.
And then Reagan had different policies until he got shot.
He was pro-New World Order from that time on, and we know the Secret Service really shot him from all the evidence we have.
Can you talk about that?
webster tarpley
The interesting thing here is that Ronald Reagan hated George Bush the Elder, didn't want him on the ticket.
And Reagan, obviously, was somebody who did not understand things conceptually.
He didn't understand some of the things that you've just been mentioning.
What he had seen, though, was the Nashua Telegraph debate, which was set up by George Bush through various intrigues as Bush-Reagan.
But there were other candidates.
There was Bob Dole, there was Howard Baker, there was Phil Crane, there was John Anderson.
There were four or five other Republicans, all, you know, well-known figures, who wanted to be part of the debate.
And Reagan said, sure, fine, get some shares for all of them.
George Bush says, no!
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It's my debate, right?
It's my party and so forth, right?
So he'll have a fit.
So Bush had a fit in public at the debate.
This is the famous, I'm paying for this microphone, Mr. Breen, when they tried to prevent Reagan from inviting these people to take their places.
And this is one of the ways Bush lost the 1980 primary.
So after seeing that, Reagan said, I don't want him.
So what they did was this, an intrigue with Kissinger representing Ford, actually being his controller, negotiating with the Reagan people, would Ford come on the ticket as a co-president or vice president?
And Ford began saying, yes, I'll do it, but I want Henry Kissinger at the State Department, and I want Alan Greenspan at the Treasury.
Imagine this.
So they essentially played out the string, they ate up the clock until it was, well, the night that Reagan had to make the announcement.
And Reagan had focused everything on getting Ford on the ticket to increase his chances, right, to get the prestige of a former president.
And at a certain point that night, Jerry Ford then sent Kissinger over to say, no, it can't be done.
We don't want to do it.
At that point, Reagan had two or three hours to find somebody.
The only thing he could do was to call Bush the elder and invite him to be the vice presidential candidate.
Again, just like Ford-Rockefeller leading to Sarah Jane Moore and Lynette's squeaky prom, Reagan-Bush leads to John Hinckley Jr.
But in this case, it's even closer in the sense that John Hinckley Jr.
has an elder brother, Scott Hinckley, who is constantly meeting with Neil Bush, the son of the former president, the brother of the current tenant of the White House.
And of course, that is a tremendous appearance of a conflict of interest.
And it's all confirmed.
It's in the Houston Post, the Rocky Mountain News, and AP Wire documents the fact that these admissions were made.
So, Ford essentially is a guy who certainly allows himself to be part of this scheme.
When Ford is leaving the airport, From the Republican National Convention in 1980.
Reporter asked him, Hey, President Ford, what did you think of that convention?
And Ford says, I think it's great.
I came here to get George Bush on the ticket and I succeeded.
So the whole thing was a farce.
One last interesting thing.
The 1976 election was actually won by Ford.
But by this time, the Trilateral Commission had already chosen Carter and had presented him at the meeting of the Trilateral Commission in Kyoto, Japan.
Carter was going to bring on Brzezinski for Foreign Affairs, Volker for the Federal Reserve, so they thought it was time to further weaken the presidency by getting Ford out, Carter in, and therefore Carter got through with vote fraud.
And when you come back, I can maybe tell you how well Ford was convinced to surrender.
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I think we've covered enough about Nixon and Bush and Ford and all those different machinations and skullduggery that went on in their Machiavellian world, but I want to look forward into the next year.
You, I know, don't pull any punches and don't toot your own horn or my horn, But many, and C-SPAN admits their most highly viewed group of programs ever was the four re-airings, and since they've done it several other times, the hype that was generated and built up with the hour and 50 minute C-SPAN roundtable discussion we had, Pointing the finger, the other 9-11 shows that have been on there really haven't been that hardcore.
We didn't pull any punches, and it's had a massive effect.
I know you've been crediting that with breaking the 9-11 dam, and yes, since then we now see 84% of the national scientific poll not buying the official story.
Do you want to speak to that?
webster tarpley
I would say that that conference that you put on, that panel that was put on C-SPAN and that you've also distributed, is the single most important ingredient in the outcome of the 2006 election.
In other words, the defeat of Bush.
The fact that the demagogy of terror, the terror hysteria that Bush had relied on to win that election once again, and Karl Rove had, simply failed.
And it opens the door now to something different.
However, let me point out, I've just been watching the American Enterprise Institute conference with Frederick Kagan and General Keene, followed by Senator McCain and Senator Lieberman.
In other words, the warmonger clique.
And they're talking about what Bush will announce next week, He's going to announce 20,000 or 30,000 more GIs to be sent into this desperate situation in Iraq.
This sets the stage for a constitutional crisis of the first order, similar to Watergate.
Involving impeachment, whatever poor Mrs. Pelosi thinks about it.
Impeachment is on the table because the Constitution says it is.
Right now there are two- Hold on, hold on!
alex jones
Pelosi's holding back a dam!
78% of Americans want out, 70% of the troops want out, and she can't even have a press conference because people are shouting them down at the Capitol.
This is illustrating the shadow government, because Republicans and Democrats want us out of Iraq, but the elite says, no way!
webster tarpley
Mrs. Pelosi, I'm afraid, is infected with what I call parliamentary cretinism.
In other words, she thinks that the main issue in governing is the atmosphere in the halls of Congress, whether they're having a tea party or a fistfight.
Well, we don't care whether it's a tea party or a fistfight.
We didn't vote for any bipartisan party, which she seems to think is what her task is.
She was put there to fight Bush, and if she doesn't fight Bush, she will be swept away.
Now, Bush is going to make this announcement next week.
12% of the population supports the escalation surge into Iraq.
The support in the Senate is down to 12 Republican senators, and the rest are opposed to this.
And, of course, you've got the ruling class in its majority is against it, as we saw in the Baker-Hamilton.
Right now I see a split in the ruling class.
There's a George Shultz group with Bush and the neocons and Limbaugh and the rest of these people on the one side, and on the other side you've got the Baker group, which are the moderate imperialists, and their line is, we can't just have it, the United States, Britain and Israel fight the world.
We've got to recruit more puppet states, more Stooges, we've got to peel The Syrians away from Iran set up a Sunni Arab block of perhaps... Well, that's always been the plan is to generate sectarian violence with Brzezinski calling it now the Global Balkans.
alex jones
Webster, we're out of time.
Do you think they're going to attack Iran soon?
webster tarpley
Well, the Senate is on its way and what we're calling for is, obviously, filibuster Negroponte.
Don't let Negroponte get through the Congress again.
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alex jones
All right, Webster Tarpley, we'll talk to you soon.
I really appreciate you coming on with us.
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Thank you very much, Alex, and Happy New Year again.
alex jones
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Now eight minutes, thirty seconds into this third hour today.
And there's so much on the Bilderberg Uh, website that I don't even really know where to start.
Uh, Tony, uh, Gosling, uh, for years has been going to different Bilderberg meetings and covering it.
He has just been an invaluable resource in that, and he joins us today.
He's at, I believe, a London restaurant.
So that's the background noise you'll hear, but it's always good to bring in some London atmosphere to the international audience.
Tony, thanks for coming on with us.
tony gosling
I hate to disappoint you, but we're actually down in Bristol.
We're in London, but we're in a nice little Lebanese restaurant here.
But I can tell you that this year at Bilderberg we're going to have a real first, because it's the first time we've ever had A dedicated internet forum which is going to be chasing them down.
The idea being obviously, you know, just to give Jim a bit of a hand, Jim Tucker, a bit of a hand from this side of the pond in tracking down exactly where they are because every year it seems to get more and more difficult, more and more secretive to actually, you know, to discover the correct venue because there's all sorts of false leads go out and that kind of thing.
So on the old Bilderberg.org there's now a forum where people can discuss that which is working really quite nicely.
On there, you'll see that there are two main suspected countries where it's going to be this year.
Obviously, it's not going to be over your side.
It's going to be for people who are familiar with the Bilderberg.
They'll know that it's going to be in Europe somewhere.
It's either Turkey or France, it looks like at the moment.
But then, you know, we're never quite sure if people are tossing false leads.
alex jones
Yeah, we were here until the last minute.
This year that it was going to be in either Austria or Canada obviously it was in Ottawa the capital of Canada and I was there you've been to a lot of the European meetings I guess every four years it's in North America but usually Three-fourths of the time, it is in Europe.
But Tony, for those that don't know who you are, tell us how you got involved in this, and then what Bilderberg is.
We've gone from the media saying it didn't exist, you were crazy if you talked about it, to it now being in the BBC and CBC and ABC Nightly News and CNN.
So walk us through, just in a nutshell, kind of a thumbnail sketch about yourself and Bilderberg and your website, because you really follow this.
And then I want to get into some of the other stories you've been covering as of late.
tony gosling
Well, first of all, I'm Vice Chairman of the National Union of Journalists in Bristol, so I'm in touch with a lot of journalists around here.
and And myself, I was originally working for the BBC as a reporter.
Now, I found it was very difficult to do exactly what I wanted to do, working within there, but I feel a lot freer as a freelancer, and I just picked up on some of the stuff to do with the Bilderberg meetings.
When someone first told me about them, I really thought, hang on a minute, you know, this can't be true.
And when I dug into it and found it was, I thought, well, let's get something up on the internet about this.
Because it just seemed that this is a sort of early mid-90s, the internet was arriving just at the right time.
Well, you could kind of do this sort of thing.
So that's really how it all started and it's kind of gone on from there.
I'm now quite active in the UK 9-11 Truth Movement and I understand, as Webster and many other people do, that 9-11 is at the root and the foundation of this bogus war on terror and by pulling apart 9-11 and similar type attacks That this is the way that we have to sort of get the truth out and to fight the bogusness of it all.
I mean we just heard in the Daily Telegraph just before Christmas that this is an official number 10 policy unit is now recommending microchipping of people as a way of helping to solve crime.
So for years and years people thought that this was kind of some sort of fiction.
Actually now it's turning out to be You know, this is now official number 10 policy.
This is unbelievable.
But yeah, I mean, people like me have been talking about this kind of thing for, and you of course, Alex, have been talking about this sort of stuff for years.
I've also had a very, what I think is quite important article in the National Union of Journalists journal, which is called, amazingly enough, imaginatively enough, Journalist, The Journalist.
And that was over Christmas, and that was about the London attacks, raising all the sorts of questions that many people who are sort of part of the 9-11 truth movement have been talking about for a long, long time.
And we're talking about things like the fact that the photoshopped image from Luton showing these four guys The fact that there's no real evidence that they were actually on the Tube network at all that day.
The fact that there was a warning given beforehand to the Israeli Embassy.
You know, this sort of stuff all fits together.
And what I'm basically saying there is that we need to be very, very, very wary about this term suicide bomber.
I mean, if anyone remembers back to April in 2004, they will know That was when the Shiite insurgency started, because the Al-Sadr newspaper in Baghdad was closed down by the U.S.
Army.
A bunch of soldiers turned up in Humvees and closed it down.
Because the previous edition of the paper, it had a front page lead headline saying that a suicide bomber Uh, it was in fact nothing of the sort, and that they had 13 eyewitnesses saying that actually it was a helicopter firing a missile.
Now, if the military forces are able to get away with pulling the wool over journalists' eyes in the heat of the moment in that fashion, I think we need to be extremely wary, and every time that we hear the term suicide bomber, we need to actually go and check the facts.
Is this a suicide bomber, or is this something else going on?
Because this is what is being used, certainly in this country, I mean, I really don't know quite what it's like over in the States, but to demonize Muslims in all sorts of ways, and now they're starting to bring that demonization to Christians too.
alex jones
Tony Gosling runs the biggest Bilderberg site out there, Bilderberg.org.
Tony, for those that don't know, describe how Bilderberg was founded from your research, what its main goals are, and is there really an internal split in it, and has it gotten larger since the eve of the Gulf War four years ago?
tony gosling
Well, Alex, I think there are some splits going on, and certainly, Bilderberg is having, well, the people connected with it are having all sorts of problems with the Russians at the moment.
I think that's what's actually behind this polonium scandal in London.
The Build-A-Bloat Ratings actually started back in, for those that don't know, back in 1954.
They were convened originally by several characters.
A guy called Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, who was, at the beginning of the war, was actually in the Nazi SS.
And this is the thing that actually really switched me on to this whole business, is hang on a minute, if this guy was organised by an ex-SS man, how come nobody's interested in it?
You know, well maybe that's because there's some also other ex-SS people protecting, and of course today you can find the remnants of SS in NATO intelligence.
A lot of the behaviour of the Gladio operations were basically just organized on exactly the same lines as the SS, as one of the French journalists.
alex jones
Well, the Bushes made their first bank off of being top Nazi bag men in the U.S., so these remnants are everywhere.
tony gosling
That's right, and also the other guy who was involved in the formation of the Bilderbergs originally, he was, I'm just trying to remember his name, I can't remember it offhand, but anyway, he was mentioned by Stephen Dorrell in his history of MI6, as someone who has constantly been an MI6 agent He was also implicated in the death of General Sikorski.
General Sikorski, you know, was the representative of Poland during World War II.
And, um, I died mysteriously in an accident.
Now, this is a bit bizarre, but actually it was the Polish that we went into World War II, Britain led the world into World War II to stop the Nazi invasion of Poland, and yet by the end of it we were stabbing the leader of Poland in the back.
So, I mean, that gives you an idea of the kind of shenanigans that go over on these kind of big issues over the watch.
So, you know, it just seems to me that, um, That the beginning of Bilderberg is mired in intrigue and actually quite, you know, some quite horrendous facts.
And these people who were involved in putting it together were.
So, immediately, that sets the makeup for me.
This is something that needs to be a proper investigation.
alex jones
How many years ago was that, Tony?
I mean, how many years ago did you start following it?
How many Bilderberg meetings have you been to?
tony gosling
When I first decided to do something, because I was actually in Wandsworth in London, right next to the River Thames.
And we had decided to take over some land.
We were squatting some land as a protest action about the building of a supermarket.
And also saying that we want more eco-friendly buildings in the city.
It's a 17 acre site that had been owned by Guinness.
And this is in 1996.
We actually took the place over in the beginning of the year.
I think it was about April, March, April time.
I managed to actually get a community going on there of about 40, 50 people who actually built their own homes with growing vegetables, all this kind of thing, on what was an ex-factory site.
Actually it was very, very fertile land and we had all sorts of growing going on.
And we got quite a bit of news coverage.
Anyway, one of the chaps He'd seen us on the news and came to have a chat with us.
Somebody who'd obviously knew about the Bilderbergers.
He said, well, hang on a minute.
You know, you're looking at the land issue here, but you've got to also look at the money issue.
What about the issue of money?
You know, this is another massive problem that needs to be sorted out in the world.
And I listened to him, he sounds like a very sensible chap, but at the end of it, he mentioned this organisation, he said, the Bilderbergs.
No one even knows about them, but they really run the Western world.
And I thought, hang on, what are you talking about?
You know, this sounds like some kind of fantasy.
But then I, when I got back to the office, dutifully checked up what he'd said.
I thought I'd have a little search on the internet and had a little, had a trawl through All the article database of Reuters, and I found lots of very, very, what I would call incriminating evidence about them, which I then cut and paste and put on the web.
So that was how it kind of started in the first place, and it's just taken off from there, with all sorts of other things kind of being looked at now.
I mean, at the moment, for example, I'm doing an investigation into the fact that Tony Blair lied in the House of Commons when he talked about not going to a Bilderberg meeting.
It was Norman Baker, who's a Liberal MP, Asked a question in the Commons and another Liberal Lord asked a similar question in the Lords and they both got, really what I would say was either, I think in the Lords it was a kind of unequivocal like neither confirming or denying.
But Blair actually said no I've never been.
Now I actually spoke to the woman who served Tony Blair his breakfast at the Turnerbury Conference so I'm absolutely certain he was there.
Um, and, uh, so, why is he actually doing this?
Well, I mean, I'm now, uh, working with Norman Baker on an investigation, and then hopefully we can, uh, get, get some, uh, get Mr. Blair to retract his lie, you know, because it's absolutely not on.
Uh, I don't understand why it is that he has to even say that he's had nothing to do with it, because it seems clearly that he has.
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Tony Gosling's our guest.
He runs Bilderberg.org.
alex jones
And he's been to quite a few of the meetings.
He has witnessed some of the police state tactics of Bilderberg Group.
Tony, people like Jim Tucker have been shot at before.
He's been grabbed in Italy and taken away for hours and hours.
Daniel Estolano has been detained.
I have obviously been detained in Canada because they said the Bilderberg Group was concerned about me.
I mean, if anybody doubts that these people aren't for freedom, why are they so angry at people like yourself, Jim Tucker, Daniel Escalon, myself and others, that try to cover and report on Bilderberg?
I mean, the old cliché is, if you've got, you know, 125 top football players meeting, the media would be there.
Or 125 top Hollywood people, there'd be media beating down the doors.
Or 125 scientists, people would wonder why.
You've got 125 royalty, robber barons, Well, I mean, I've found them to be quite reasonable, really.
Tell us about that and then any experiences you've had.
tony gosling
Well, I mean, I've found them to be quite reasonable, really.
The fact that they won't send me any information, generally speaking, about who's been at the meetings is a real problem.
But, I mean, I haven't been shot at.
You know, I've only been, uh, well, I would say, sort of, sort of questioned by, uh, the secret police at various places I've been to.
Uh, and I haven't really had any hassle.
But, I mean, my approach to, um, the Bilderbergers is always that I, you know, I, I want to give them a way out of what they're doing because it seems to me that there must be people within the Bilderberg and, uh, similar organizations and those connected with them that don't actually take their point of view.
And so therefore I don't really want to sort of stand point the finger and condemn because I mean although they're obviously involved in all sorts of dangerous nefarious stuff I don't actually want to you know I'm not I don't want to be the person to condemn them I want to expose what they're doing expose the facts and that's really what it's all about for me.
Um, and also I think if you, if you, if, you know, last thing I want to do is to start to demonize them anymore.
You know, they may be demons, but that's not for me to decide.
I don't want to do that demonizing, and I want to always make sure that they have got a way out.
My approach is really, look, you really shouldn't be doing this.
And isn't it better that you just walk away from this?
Now, they may not do that, but that's still my approach, and it always will be.
alex jones
Now, I noticed you told my radio producer, and you sent us a few articles that you put together, others you're covering, about Prince Charles and bizarre occultic things and his property.
And why do you think that's important?
I think it's important.
I, of course, have covered it.
How often does the occult pop up when you're researching these people?
tony gosling
Well, I mean, all you have to do, actually, I mean, I'm in Bristol in southwest England, and just the other side of the M4 motorway is where Prince Charles' main country residence is.
When he's in London, he's in St.
James's Palace, and it's very, very cozy in there.
So anyway, I and some friends went on a ramble You know, sort of a little wonder over there towards the end of last year.
And I actually couldn't believe my eyes.
What I saw out in Prince Charles's back garden, which is a large field full of sheep, was a giant column with a carved metal phoenix on the top of it.
And I thought, what the hell is this doing here?
And I got onto a good old Wikipedia and found that there was something on there that was absolutely identical to it.
Um, so I think, you know, that that's exactly the kind of thing which is on the back of the US dollar.
And it doesn't at all surprise me that maybe Prince Charles is into this kind of stuff, even though he's very publicly came out, come out and said he's not a Freemason.
Um, well, maybe he's into something, uh, even more dodgy.
You know, this is, this is certainly the way I see it.
I first got interested in Charles really looking into the Diana killing.
Um, and I think it, you know, my personal feeling is definitely it was an assassination of some sort.
Um, but there's all, there are, a lot of people give different reasons as to why this might be.
Now, it just so happens that a friend of my family used to work for MI6.
Uh, her job was, um, seducing Middle Eastern leaders for, that was what she was paid to do, to get information.
alex jones
They call those swallows.
tony gosling
Yeah, well, yeah, she was the honey trap, yeah?
So, uh, anyway, she was getting information out of these people.
And, um, she said, this was just, just literally a few weeks after the Dinah thing.
We met her at a big family event.
She had this real cloud about her.
She was normally a very bubbly, happy, chappy lady.
But she said, before we sit down and eat, I want to tell you a few things about Diana.
And the reasons she gave were various, but the main ones were, first of all, that the royal family had a real big downer on Prince Charles, sorry, on Diana's media and public profile.
Everywhere that Charles and Diana went, and of course they were still going around together in the early days, In fact, when I was working for the BBC, I did some stuff.
alex jones
Tony Gosling, expert on Bilderberg Group and the New World Order activities is with us.
Stay there, Tony.
Big segment coming up.
I want to get into this and talk about these secret societies and Princess Diana and her murder and what's on the Bilderberg agenda coming up in 2007 and a lot more on the other side.
We'll be right back.
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Alright, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
You know, my frustration is, over a decade ago, I came into possession of public documents in globalist think tank agreements That they were setting up a North American Union.
I learned that the Bilderberg Group, 12 years ago plus, had set up the European Union.
They bragged about it.
And then I'd get on the radio and talk about it, and the media would say I was a crazy kook who believed in imaginary organizations.
Now, because of Tony Gosling's work, and Jim Tucker, and Estalán, and many others, most people know that there really are global elites.
They really are pushing for world government.
They want to get rid of our national sovereignty, because by setting up new governmental systems, they can ensure that they don't have the checks and balances that England and the U.S.
and other countries have had.
The Magna Carta, Common Law, the Bill of Rights, Constitution.
And there's no doubt from the minutes we've gotten, the documents we've gotten, that Bilderberg does want this One World Tax, One World Army, this whole system.
And we need, you know, now that we can get the people to admit there's an elite, you know, folks in the past always knew there was one.
Now we have this society in denial.
Tony Gosselin joining us from England.
What was it like for you when you learned of this?
I mean, did you run into opposition, people who were still in denial?
And then can you compare that now to the atmosphere?
Are people more open to this?
tony gosling
Well, look, I mean, I'm quite happy to run into people that disagree with me.
I think that's actually quite a healthy world where people disagree with each other.
I don't think everyone has to agree.
And so it was something I was, you know, right from the beginning I was prepared for.
But it just seems that more and more people do agree as time goes on.
So, I mean really, I'm not surprised if people disagree, that's great, let them talk about it, but of course what happens is, in the years as I've just been talking about, with the number 10 talking about our microchip implants for British people, actually people say that this is impossible, but when they actually see it come to light then they suddenly remember, hang on, we were told about this all ten years ago, weren't we?
So, you know, I think it's sort of inevitable, really, that slowly but surely, more and more members of the public and the media are coming to take our point of view, Alex.
alex jones
Tony, elaborate on that, because the Mexican government tried to make its employees take chips.
Other governments are doing it.
You were talking about new developments with that.
Why don't you elaborate on it?
tony gosling
Well, it was something that was in the Daily Telegraph.
If people want to actually follow it up, they can go on to the British 9-11 Forum at 9-11, that's N-I-N-E, that's the letters, not the numbers, 9-11 and then the word 11, .co.uk, and you can have a look there.
But there's an article in the Daily Telegraph, just before Christmas I believe, or maybe just after Christmas, just before New Year, where this number 10 policy think tank has actually suggested that because they believe that there will be rising rates of crime due to economic I miss that article, but we're seeing some more ones in the U.S.
I mean, this isn't a joke.
This is happening.
I think you missed the article as well, Alex, because the headline had nothing to do with that.
for years and it's hoping, you know, against hope, that this wasn't going to be something which was going to be even contemplated.
alex jones
I missed that article, but we're seeing similar ones in the US.
I mean, this isn't a joke.
This is happening.
tony gosling
I'm wondering why you missed the article as well, Alex, because the headline had nothing to do with that.
It was saying something like "fighting crime".
Now, you and I would not necessarily associate putting a microchip in you with anything to do with fighting crime.
So it's a toned-down headline in the Daily Telegraph.
But once you got towards the bottom of the article, you realized, actually, this is what they're talking about.
alex jones
Well, there's an article today, it's in my stack, with a headline like, Local Schools Get Control!
And then you read it and it says, the feds are making schools put cameras in coast-to-coast.
I mean, it's always the opposite.
tony gosling
But you've got journalists who are telling the truth, and editors who are coming along, or sub-editors, and then changing headlines and, you know, moving things around in that fashion.
You know, but the fact is that more and more journalists are aware that there are these problems around, and they're trying to make sure that that stuff gets into the newspaper.
alex jones
How is the elite going to... How is the elite, Tony Gosselin, going to deal with that, the fact that people are now waking up to what they're doing?
tony gosling
Well, there's actually no way I don't think they can deal with it, because ultimately their whole plan depends on deception, and I'm afraid their deception's failed, so ultimately they're on a hiding to nothing.
alex jones
Well, I agree with you in one respect, but in the other, it seems that they're going to deal with it with a police state.
They're going, fine, you're waking up to what we're doing.
We're just going to arrest you if you criticize us, claiming you're aiding terrorists.
tony gosling
I don't think a global police state is ever going to happen.
I mean, I know that sounds maybe a bit over optimistic.
alex jones
Well, I mean, they're saying we're only going to be made to take chips.
tony gosling
The thing is that there are many, you know, we're still within the generations that can remember the Nazis, and certainly here in this country, most of the armed forces would absolutely have nothing to do with that.
You might even find a military coup here in Britain if there was an attempt to bring in a police state.
alex jones
But they are, I mean, you've got four plus million cameras in London, they've got microphones going up, the police, every time I've got a video camera on it in the streets of London will walk up and take down my name.
I mean, certainly the police state is starting to unfold right now.
tony gosling
Slow, it's slow, but I mean, I don't think that the spirit that the people like the Bilderbergers and others who are going for a global police state, that the actual ordinary police in this country would never put up with that.
alex jones
I really don't... Well, I do think there is resistance, and that is good, and we need to be fully aware of it.
tony gosling
Tony, we were talking... I think that's an important point to make, because we need to be building alliances.
I mean, for example, here in Britain, We had a big demonstration before Christmas at an RAF base, which is used to bring bodies back and to send troops out to Iraq.
And literally, there were people, many people, families of the soldiers out on the streets, marching hand in hand with sort of anti-war demonstrators and campaigners.
And then, you know, they're actually being politicised themselves.
I mean, we had a big thing, a major news here in Britain yesterday was that the army are coming out, defending the conditions in which army It's interesting you can go back right to the English Civil War and see how it was the politicization of the army which really decided the outcome of that war and also the Levellers were a civil rights movement within the army.
It was actually mostly the soldiers that were fighting for people's rights.
You know, we need to not sort of demonize too much the armed forces because, after all, they were the same armed forces that defeated Hitler.
alex jones
Yeah, we're not demonizing you and I and others.
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tony gosling
Some people do, though.
This is one of the things I find is that people are very, very anti-military.
And, yeah, actually, we do need a strong military.
alex jones
Well, what we're trying to do is demonize those that are trying to misuse the military and police and demonizing the police state tactics that are attempting to be implemented.
tony gosling
Yeah, well, yeah, I totally agree.
Also though, I think it's important to get back to Diana, because I was just going to give you an update.
alex jones
We're going to do that in just a moment.
In fact, that was one of the next things I was going to bring up.
But Tony, before we run out of time, I want to go back to where you think Bilderberg may be held this year.
It's getting harder and harder to find out each year because they're getting more and more secretive.
Can you speak to that briefly?
Then I want to get to Diana, but then because you live in England, you've written about it.
Tony Blair having weird rebirthing ceremonies in southern Mexico at Aztec temples.
Tony Blair channeling the light every morning.
Tony Blair and the occult.
I wanted to get your analysis on that.
So can you speak to that first?
tony gosling
I mean, there's a story that very, very few people have come across, which I find absolutely riveting, which has come from David Shaler and Annie Mashon, the two ex-MI5 agents.
Now, when they first came out, because they basically were booted out because they started revealing the fact that the MI6 was funding Al-Qaeda to assassinate Colonel Gaddafi.
When they first came out, there was a big headline in the Sunday Telegraph, sorry, the Sunday Times, saying Shayla could bring down the government.
And apparently at that point, and this is what they told me, on Monday morning the newspaper, the Mail on Sunday, let's get it right, the Mail on Sunday got a call from Number 10 Downing Street.
Tony Blair phoned up the editor Jonathan Holbrook and demanded he come immediately to Downing Street.
Now then Blair took him out into the garden, and of course you do that if you don't want to be bugged, and said to Jonathan Holbrook, what does Shayla know about me?
Yes?
What does Shayla know?
And it turns out that Holbrooke then said to him, well I'm afraid we can't tell you because your government put an injunction on us last night and I can't tell you anything.
But the fact was that Shaler and Nashorn, whilst they'd been at MI5, had spoken to one of their colleagues who had seen Tony Blair's security file, and he said that Blair had been working for MI5 right the way through his early political career.
In other words, he had...
alex jones
In college, in college he was recruited.
tony gosling
He was working for...
He was part of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, Yeah, well he was involved with communist groups, Jim.
That's right, but he wasn't actually, you know, everyone was quite... He was a... How come this guy who used to be a kind of communist lefty is... But actually, it turns out... He was an infiltrator.
He was almost certain, certain that he was actually, at the time, you know, just giving information... Uninformant.
...on these groups.
alex jones
Uninformant.
tony gosling
He's the guy who's now supposed to be running this country.
It's quite frightening.
alex jones
Well, it's like Putin running, Russia, Bush running, you know, it's all these former CIA people.
tony gosling
Yeah, but I don't think Putin is in the same league as Blair, really.
I mean, Putin has obviously decided that he's not really interested in the whole war on terror Western way of doing things, and he's separating himself from that in a way.
I think he wants to, you know, reassert some sort of control over Russia, and that, I think, is very laudable of him.
alex jones
Tony, can you speak to when and where you think the meeting may be and how hard it's going to be?
tony gosling
At this stage of the year we normally just don't know anyway but there's only two places that it looks like it may be at the moment.
One is Turkey because one of the Turkish participants in last year's conference said that when he came back, that it was going to be in Turkey, but we're really never quite sure whether this is a bit of disinformation or not.
And the other place is possibly France, but it is actually, I think it's getting quite difficult for the Bilderberg now, 'cause they want to keep a low profile.
And obviously we want the opposite.
alex jones
You know, when you've got kings and queens and various types, it's very difficult to keep the media away. - Well, I'll tell you, Turkey is more of a police state than Europe, and that might be a dangerous place for the press to go to cover it, Are you going to go if it's in Turkey?
tony gosling
Well, we'll see.
I mean, I'm never quite sure whether I'm going to go or not.
I usually make that decision quite late on.
alex jones
How many have you gone to?
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I've only been to, actually, to two meetings.
tony gosling
But then, you know, one of the things I've always felt is one of the most fantastic things to go to the Bilderberg meeting.
It may seem to people that it's not, but actually what happens is loads of people who are on the case with Bilderberg and with World Affairs generally Get together in the various hotels, often in gyms, hotels, sometimes other places.
You get reporters from all around the world sharing information, and it's almost like you've got a little alternative conference going on.
So I'd recommend to everybody, wherever and whenever we find out where this meeting is going to be this year, that people can actually come along.
And then we can have a sort of conflagration in a nearby hotel.
And also it means there's more people to attract the attention of the national press in whichever country it happens.
alex jones
You know, it blew up in their face in Canada when they had me detained.
That helped generate big headlines.
tony gosling
Well, yeah.
I mean, this is the sort of thing.
The idea is really just to make sure that the local media are aware of it.
That's what I always try and do.
alex jones
Now, you wanted to get into Diana.
What, almost 80% of Brits think that somebody in the government killed them?
We have the press reports where she said, Prince Charles says he's going to kill me in the next few months in a fake auto accident.
She was speaking out against landmines.
She was getting all the headlines.
She was dating an Arab.
I mean, they had a lot of reasons to kill her.
The security tapes turned off.
Now we know the driver was on intelligence payroll.
Now we know the CIA was bugging them.
I mean, this is really starting to come out.
You've been on the case.
What really happened from all the evidence you've got with Diana?
tony gosling
What people don't, I think, always understand is that it's really a kind of jealousy from Charles.
He could see that although they decided to part company and go their separate ways, Diana was really much more loved by both the press and the public.
And that the public and the press both really saw him as the culprit for cheating on his wife and committing adultery with Camilla.
And that Diana, as a virgin, going into that relationship, quite possibly, Uh, as the victim, you know, and I think most of the public understand that, you know, that, that he was really responsible for it.
So that was, I think, the main, the main reason is because the press and public were very much behind Diana, and also she knew a lot about the inside workings of the, of the royal family.
But reason number two, uh, was, uh, as one of the ones, at least is the way I would put, the order I would put them in, is that, uh, it was, she was, uh, an incredible link between the British people and the Muslim world.
And the idea of her settling down as she was about to announce her engagement with Dodie the next day, when they flew back to the UK, I mean that is actually very well documented.
And the police actually tried to persuade, I don't know if people know about this, the police tried to persuade the guy who sold them the engagement ring, that it wasn't an engagement ring, as part of the inquiry afterwards, and of course he kept saying yes it was an engagement ring.
I mean no one's really quite sure to what extent they were leaning on him, but this would have been a big, big problem.
And it does make you think that maybe the things that we're seeing now, the pogrom against the Muslim population around the world, the blaming them like the Nazis blamed the Jews, was being contemplated at that time, well before 9-11.
alex jones
And they knew that she'd speak out against it.
Didn't Diana know how much danger she was in?
She told friends, Charles says he's going to kill me in a fake auto accident.
That's been in major papers.
That's admitted.
I mean, didn't she?
She obviously knew.
I guess she just was ready to die.
I mean, didn't she understand that if she married him or got pregnant, they were going to kill her for sure?
tony gosling
Well, I've seen pictures of her actually doing this landmine stuff.
I think she was an incredibly courageous woman.
And she knew that she was putting her life on the line for her country.
And I think most of the British public also feel that.
Anyone that actually takes the trouble to look into this, and doesn't come from the Prince Charles camp, of course he's spent a massive amount on trying to make sure that, and of course we've had the coroner resign as well, the royal coroner resign.
alex jones
What do the children think, I mean, about their father murdering their mother?
tony gosling
Well, that's the $64,000 question, isn't it?
I mean, you've got obviously these children.
William and Harry, I would imagine that they have mixed feelings about the whole thing.
It's really impossible to know, though, for sure.
One thing's for certain is that she had a very, very close relationship with them, very close.
And I don't know if people have heard the Diana tapes.
I know they had an NBC special a few years ago.
But I actually grabbed the audio off of that, and it's fascinating to listen to Diana talking in her own words about her relationship with Charles, the confrontation with Camilla and the way that she got over the bulimia and kind of became much stronger again as a person.
And of course that was what the royal family couldn't bear, the fact that she was independent and strong and well loved by the public.
alex jones
But they keep having fake inquests, fake investigations, but the British people aren't buying it.
That's got to make the establishment angry.
tony gosling
It wasn't really, I don't think, a fake inquest.
What's happened with the inquest is the coroner, it appears, has been very severely lent on to find a particular verdict, and has decided instead of that that he's going to resign.
That's what happened.
alex jones
Was she really pregnant?
tony gosling
Well, according to my wife's ex-friend, yes, she was.
and that they actually removed the child in the ambulance before she got to hospital.
That's what my MI6 contact has said about it.
alex jones
And that's why they spent 45 minutes getting her to a...
tony gosling
That's right.
They took a long time, yeah.
I mean, it's a horrendous thing for anyone to have done, you know, but, of course, this is the way the forces of darkness almost relish in operating.
They know that the worse deeds they do, the more disgusting those deeds are, the less that any of the members of the public and press are going to want to go there.
So this is a kind of psychological tool.
And the worse things you do, the more disgusting, the more terrible things you do, the less people are going to want to actually even consider that that would be possible.
Because they play on people's ideas that actually people's human nature would never ever do such things.
And of course we know from the Nazis, of course, that they do.
alex jones
We do know that.
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Final segment in just a few minutes on the other side.
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Tony, we've got about a minute or two left.
Any other key points you want to hit on?
tony gosling
Well, I want to say some more positive stuff as well.
I mentioned that I didn't think that the New World Order was going to be all that successful here in Britain.
We have this whole business of the ID card scheme that they're trying to impose on us.
And it's clear now that we've got three, four million people in Britain who are prepared to go to jail rather than accept these damn things.
alex jones
Well, that's failed!
It's failed six times to pass it!
tony gosling
Yeah, so, I mean, it seems that they can maybe even pass the legislation to get these things in place, but no one is actually going to do it.
It's almost like the law has become this kind of farce.
So, you know, there's a very strong consciousness as well, I think it's fair to say, in the armed forces in Britain, through my contacts I can tell you, of this idea of false flag terrorism, and that maybe this isn't in the media as much as it should be, but certainly the army and the armed forces, the Royal Air Force, the Royal Navy, are very much aware that this is a phenomenon that is going on.
alex jones
So we've gone from people not being aware of government sponsored terror to it now being something that's understood.
tony gosling
Yeah, I'd go further than that to say it's the false flag terror.
I mean, we've had state terrorism for many, many years with the state imposing its will.
But what we haven't had so much, and it's been behind the scenes, obviously, the Gladio operations in Europe carried out by NATO intelligence.
Where innocent people were killed for American foreign policy objectives like getting cruise missiles installed and things like that.
This is becoming much more something which the higher echelons of the British forces are now aware of.
Yeah, the good news is... It's very difficult to carry out another 7-7 type attack in Britain.
alex jones
Yes, Tony Gosling, we're going to have to get you back on soon.
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Thanks for spending time with us.
tony gosling
Okay, I just want to say one little thing and plug a game, which is a War on Terror, the board game.
I thought this was going to come along, but it's just, I don't know if people over there have seen it, but it's something that a bunch of game designers here in Britain have put together and you can actually buy it on the web.
So it's a kind of board game you can play with your family and sort of pretend to fight on a global scale and try and take over the world.
alex jones
Interesting.
Thank you for coming on with us.
No problem.
You bet.
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