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Okay my friends it is Friday and classically this is one of the most important broadcast I will ever do so I came in here and somebody had fiddled with the equipment so I was unable to get on air I should have done an air check before I started but better late than never I almost went into a complete rage because I was so focused wanting to go on air and cover the legislation that passed
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I spent hours last night and hours this morning analyzing it, and it is so much more horrible than even I thought, that I am staggered right now.
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You know, we could write a headline like, The Day America Died, or The Day the Bill of Rights was Overturned, The Day Bush Became a Dictator, but a fanciful headline like that doesn't even do justice to this.
I saw a posting on a message board, one of our message boards, that said it's like the whole country's on acid.
And yeah, it's like a hallucination.
For those of us that are informed, those of us that really know what's going on, those of us that spend time being somewhat up to speed on world events, the word isn't even horrifying or nauseating.
Last night I sat there for several hours after the family had gone to bed.
My wife was with me and she was there while I was reading the bill.
She was looking over it with me on her computer right next to me.
I was reading all the different news articles.
I got up this morning again and did several hours of research on it.
I couldn't sleep last night and I got up like five times in the middle of the night and I never do this and this is rare for me to get up once in the night.
And I went in and looked at my children in bed.
I couldn't sleep.
I was, frankly, you know, having the thoughts of getting out of this country.
My instincts were saying, Get out!
Get out!
Get out!
There's nowhere to run.
You know, this was Nazi Germany 1937, and I could go to New York City.
I could get out of here if there was some place like America.
And I say the end of the country because when you actually read this bill, and it took me hours to read it, the final version they passed yesterday, and to go look at all the accompanying U.S.
Code connections, there's no way to even I could write a book about how evil this 80 plus page bill and its addendums are.
The long and short of it is they couldn't get all of Patriot Act 2 passed in quote Patriot Act reauthorization and expansion last year and now they have gotten all of Patriot Act 2 passed and then added even more onto it and it cynically, if you read it, does not block torture And it does allow the secret arrest and torture and secret trials, kangaroo trials, of Americans, of U.S.
citizens.
And it cynically then says it will punish enemy combatants if they torture.
And it will, then it defines, it says the President or any of his designates, we'll say who terrorists are, and it says anyone who influences government, Anyone who yells at the government, it's in here, I've got it all marked.
It's basically like that bill they had three years ago in Oregon.
I forget the bill number, just type in Oregon law to put you in forced labor camps, because it's in the bill.
And it said downloading music, life in prison in a forced labor camp, Illegal gun, life in prison in a forced labor camp.
This is Forest Labor Camp.
Senator Menace, state senator, that's not a pun, his name's really Menace, almost got it passed.
You can go read AP Headlines.
It was also in the Oregonian.
Basically, it's worse than that.
And it takes hours to read this, much less write an article about it.
Just when I think that I won't be shocked anymore, just when I think that things can't get any weirder.
Meanwhile, Bush gets up and chastises the Democrats yesterday, who by the way, the majority of the Democrats voted for this, about how they're not tough on terror and how he's delivered this big blow to the terrorists and now we're all going to be a lot safer and And there's multi-levels to the spin.
Then there's also a spin out there that this is a big defeat for Bush.
This reaffirmed our rights, John McCain says, because John McCain's a man we can trust.
This is like saying cutting your head off and dying gives you 20 more years of life.
I mean, it's a total lie.
Or it's like saying, you know, jumping into a Middle of a steel smelting pit is going to extend your lifespan.
It's a total lie.
And I don't know what to... I'm just too blown away by this.
Let me just read an article Paul Watson wrote.
There's another spin that we're hearing and that is that Bush did this so he can't be prosecuted for war crimes.
Because it is war crime to dunk people into water.
That's on a good day.
Usually it's something else.
Well, it's a latrine.
Until you start grounding and doing that over and over again or keeping somebody with a bag over their head where they can barely breathe inside of one of their favorite things is inside of a closet in the ground that is just big enough for the body.
And then they have doctors come in every three days to put a little bit of food and water into you and you're literally in a soup of your own feces and urine.
Then they have the good old things where they rip your fingernails out and then they also beat your wife and children and rape them in front of you with acid.
And so they're saying that That Bush is doing this so that he won't get in trouble if the Democrats take control of the legislative branch.
And that's ridiculous.
The Democrats aren't going to prosecute Bush for this.
They're all in the same club.
I mean, I guess it's a part of it, because people finally said, no, you're not God, no, you're not the Emperor, no, you're not above the law, the Supreme Court says you can't do this, you could get in trouble for this, so I guess at a certain level it's true, but no, this is so they can go on and go ahead with it.
By the way, they just passed, the House has passed it, the Senate has passed a similar version, unlimited spying, no warrants on the American people.
And incredibly, they try to spin this to as a defeat for Bush.
Yeah.
I mean, if I win a $50 million lottery this weekend, will it be billed as a defeat of Alex?
I mean, this is just... It's like the war on drugs.
They say it's failed.
No, it's a great success.
The country's gone.
They say Iraq's failed.
No, it hasn't.
Breaking it into three parts.
They've been there three and a half years.
They'll be there 20 years from now.
100-plus bill a year into private defense contractors, no-bid pocket contracts.
They're doing a great job killing this country.
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I mean, the ship is on fire with big holes in it, folks.
It's sinking.
And I'm sitting here on the deck, watching a bunch of yuppies tell me about UT football, and I just can't handle it.
Paul Watson wrote this article, and this is not a shocker headline.
This is actually what they've done.
He's really crystallized it here.
Bush given authority to sexually torture American children.
The horror of shrieking boys, that's a quote, gets a rubber stamp from the bootlicking U.S.
Congress and Senate as America officially becomes a dictatorship.
Slamming the final nail in the coffin of everything America used to stand for, the bootlicking U.S.
Senate last night gave President Bush the legal authority to abduct and sexually mutilate American citizens and American children.
That's in the memos, folks.
In the name of the war on terror, there is nothing in the detaining legislation that protects American citizens from being kidnapped by their own government and tortured, Yale law professor Bruce Ackerman states in the LA Times.
Go read it for yourself.
I can't believe what I read today and last night.
The compromise legislation, they call it a compromise, authorizes the president Here's the compromise.
Before they were going to shoot us in the head 400 times.
Now they're going to shoot us 800 times.
That's the compromise.
Yale Law Professor Bruce Ackerman states in the LA Times, the compromise legislation authorizes the President to seize American citizens as enemy combatants even if they have never left the United States and once thrown into military prisons they cannot expect a trial by their peers or any other of the normal protections of the Bill of Rights.
Similarly, Law Professor Marty Lederman explains, this subsection, I.I., of the definition of unlawful enemy combatant means that if the Pentagon says you're an unlawful enemy combatant, using whatever criteria they wish, then as far as Congress and the U.S.
law is concerned, you are one, whether or not you have had any connection to hostilities at all.
Yeah, it states in here... Again, it has lots of flowery comments about your rights and your freedoms, and then it says That they could designate citizens as enemy combatants.
And then it says that if you even try to influence politics or if you shout aggressively.
Let me find the actual section later.
It's here in a huge stack.
I'm going to go over all this.
It says if you yell at people.
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All the times have come The arrogance Season's Don't Floor
You see, why I'm so upset is, we know the President announced he was above the law.
We know he announced he could secretly arrest American citizens and foreigners and secretly torture them.
And then have kangaroo trials.
But to have the Senate, by a huge majority, what is it?
Sixty-something to thirty-something.
I'll dig out the actual vote here in a minute.
And to have the House already have passed this by a huge majority, when it clearly states, clearly, it rewrites the entire criminal code.
It rewrites the entire Bill of Rights and Constitution.
It says that for any reason the government wishes, anytime, they can secretly arrest you, they can torture you, and they can then have a kangaroo court secretly, and then secretly execute you.
I mean, you're never seen again.
Now here's the good news.
They're going to have to implement this now.
And it's going to show everybody exactly who they are, and they haven't gotten our guns yet.
No, they're probably going to stage terror attacks and that'll get a lot of people back in line.
But I want those folks out there to understand this.
You do not protect yourself going along with this.
You do not protect yourself joining the system.
You do not want to be part of this.
I mean, I remember reading a decade plus ago about how the New World Order was going to turn us into a police state and secret arrest and Microchips, and North American Union, and folks, it's all happening.
You ought to see the news I've got in front of me today.
I haven't even gotten into this yet.
I am just completely... I'm grieving.
That's the word.
I am.
I'm grieving.
I'm grieving.
This is horrifying.
It's one thing to have a puppet president running around saying he's got dictator powers.
It is another thing entirely to have them pass a act rewriting whole sections of law in 100% violation on its face.
And just the arrogance of government, now when they have a backfire in a car.
In D.C., they shut down every school and don't let the children out until 7 o'clock at night.
Yesterday in Florida, some scumbag shot two cops, killed one.
So they locked down all the schools, and I was reading the message boards on the big news articles on the AP and other places, and it was saying, it was saying, what happened?
Let us go, and it's 8 o'clock at night.
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- This new legislation that has passed the House and the Senate and headed soon to the President's desk
It could be as early as this evening.
Or you may sign it next week.
Basically states that if you protest a war, that then aids enemies and you're a terrorist, enemy combatant.
It's all in here.
Raising your voice is terrorist.
I'm going to go over the subsections.
It is so much worse than Patriot Act 2.
It's staggering.
And they've gotten so deceptive that they spin it.
Let me just start over with Paul's article.
I'm going to read through it.
Then I'm going to go to some mainstream articles.
Bush given authority to sexually torture American children.
The horror of the shrieking boys gets a rubber stamp from the bootlicking U.S.
Congress and Senate as America officially becomes a dictatorship.
And when Bush signs this, this will be the Congress actually giving him fewer power, which is what the German Reichstag did.
Reichstag.
Slamming the final nail In the coffin of everything America used to stand for, the boot-licking U.S.
Senate last night gave President Bush the legal authority to abduct and sexually mutilate American citizens and American children in the name of the War on Terror.
Because you see, folks, there is a doctrine they've written up that they were using that they claim they were above the law with.
That then got challenged by the Supreme Court, and so they went and got it passed by Congress.
Do you understand this is not a tabloid headline or a shocker headline?
This is actually what they've done, okay?
Well, there is nothing in the detainee legislation that protects American citizens from being kidnapped by their own government and tortured.
Yale Law Professor Bruce Ackerman states in the LA Times, the compromise legislation authorizes the President to seize American citizens as enemy combatants if they have ever left the United States, even if they have never left the United States, and Once thrown them into military prison, they cannot expect a trial by their peers or any other of the normal protections of the Bill of Rights.
Similarly, law professor Marty Lederman explains, this subsection, I.I., of the definition of unlawful enemy combatant, Means that if the Pentagon says you're an unlawful enemy combatant using whatever criteria they wish, then as far as Congress and the U.S.
law is concerned, you are one, whether or not you have any connection to hostilities at all.
These are quotes from the document.
We have established that the bill allows the President to define American citizens as enemy combatants.
Before this article is dismissed as another extremist hyperbolic rant, please take a few minutes out of your day to check for yourself the claim that Bush now not only has the legal authority, but the active blessings of his own advisors to torture American children.
The backdrop of the Bush administration's push to obliterate the Geneva Conventions was encapsulated by John Torture Yu, professor of law at Berkeley, co-author of the Patriot Act, author of torture memos, and White House advisor.
During a December 1st debate in Chicago with Notre Dame professor and international human rights scholar Doug Castle, who we interviewed by the way, Yu gave the green light for the scope of torture to legal Uh, include, to legally include sexual torture of infants.
Now, again, he wrote the memo saying they could torture children with pliers, sexually.
So, Castle brings this up to him.
Castle, and by the way, Castle recorded this.
Castle!
If the President deems that he's got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of a person's child, there is no law that can stop him.
I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.
You can click there for the audio.
So see, in front of, what was it, 800 people or something at a huge CFR meeting, This is Council on Foreign Relations, okay?
Professor Castle, CFR.
And he's saying, what are you doing?
You wrote this!
This is being used!
Why are you... It's a longer clip than just what we quoted there.
There's more to it.
And he's like, yeah, he's allowed to do that.
There's no treaty that stops us.
So, if the President thinks he needs to order children's... I'm not going to read this on air.
There is no law that can stop him after last night's vote.
The Senate and Congress exemplified by sicko 16-year-old boy groomer Mark Foley, Republican Florida, has graciously provided Bush its full support for kids around the world to be molested in the name of stopping terror.
Yeah, Barney Frank's allowed to have underage children in his place running a brothel, no problem.
Used comments were made before the passage of the torture legislation last night.
Up until that point, Bush had merely cited his role as Director-in-Chief as carte blanche excuse for ordering torture.
Now his regime have the audacity to openly put it in writing, going one step further than even the Nazis did.
Yeah, in arguments, in briefs to get the bill passed, they cited it.
They're proud of it.
They're openly announcing it.
Again, for those who are still deluded into thinking the extent of pressure is loud music or cold water being thrown over Johnny Jihad in Raghedistan, consider for a moment the fact that your own Congress and President, who according to the Constitution are mandated to serve you, have just legalized abducting your kids from your home and electric shocking their body parts.
Now that the criminals have declared themselves outside of the law, does this mean we'll see Bush barbecuing babies on the White House lawn?
Of course not!
But the policy of torturing children in front of their parents has already been signed off on by the Pentagon and enacted under the Copper Green Program as it happened at Abu Ghraib, and there's links to every claim we make here.
Where they admit it.
Women who were arrested with their children were forced to watch their boys being sodomized with chemical glow sticks as the cameras rolled.
Investigative journalist Seymour Hirsch in the New Yorker reported that the U.S.
government is still withholding the tapes because of the horror of the soundtrack of the shrieking boys and their mothers begging to be killed in favor of seeing their children raped and tortured.
This is official policy.
Now again, why are they doing this and letting this come out?
Why do they write memos?
They want to take you to the pit of hell.
They're taking you right to the center of hell.
You see, and see, it's meant to shock you.
It's meant to mentally traumatize you.
It's what psychopaths do when they get somebody in their clutches.
They scare them.
Sometimes they'll sit them down and show them a video of their last victim.
It's part of the pleasure.
It's the criminology.
This is what psychopathic, bloodthirsty killers do.
And it's meant to horrify and terrorize the American people and scare us.
Your government has just lobbied for Congress and has passed legislation to discard the Geneva Conventions and mandate all this.
Pedophiles nationwide should rejoice.
They can comfortably take a scroll down to the local swimming pool, grab whoever they like, drag them home, rape them and torture them, and then in their defense site, U.S.
government is an example of how one should conduct themselves.
This bill also retroactively gives Bush, the neocons, or any of their henchmen immunity from war crimes charges dating back to September 11th.
Ask yourself why they would be so careful to protect themselves from accusations of war crimes.
Could that possibly be because they are knowingly committing war crimes?
The legislation of torture itself should be a criminal act.
All laws that contradict the U.S.
Constitution are null and void, It was once a law that black people were slaves.
Is it a real law?
Only by engaging in civil disobedience and refusing to tolerate or acknowledge the laws of a criminal regime that has greased the skids for sexually torturing kids can we ever have a hope of returning America to its past glory.
I remember talking to a national radio host and producer.
He works for Sky.
He works for Fox, folks.
Over in England.
I remember interviewing him, what, about a month ago, and he said, yeah, I was talking to another reporter, and I said, look, it's 1984, we're 1984, and she said, she said, yes, but most people liked it in 1984, and Winston was a troublemaker.
This is an educated woman.
Okay?
This is somebody who's read that nightmare.
You see, you see people who are smart, They double think.
This is scary stuff!
So go ahead, listening right now, just decide I'm the bad guy.
Decide all this is okay, and you can just rationalize it, decide you're part of the system, and just decide that you're going to go along with this.
And that's what a lot of you have done.
A lot of you have just made the decision Or you decide, I don't have any power, aw, stuff's bad, but so what?
You know, there's a reason so many wealthy people, so many people in government, so many people who've been in government are moving to New Zealand, and Baja, Mexico, and Argentina, even though it's a hellhole, and Costa Rica, and they're even going down to Chile, they're going even to Spain, It's because they know.
I mean, at the elite cocktail parties, folks, they're just running around bragging.
They are on massive power trips.
If you look at the style that's back in, style always mirrors.
And it's like big black trench coats and black knee-high boots.
And they're even starting to wear Nazi outfits on their off time.
We're just... It's so painful.
I love this country so much.
And I want to see these criminals brought to justice.
I want to see them brought to justice.
Let's play this little CNN clip from last night.
It's up on PrisonPlanet.com and Infowars.com.
This is CNN covering one small facet of this.
Go ahead and roll it.
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Jack, I'm beginning to think maybe I shouldn't have done these interviews yesterday and today.
Should I feel guilty?
You know, I don't know.
Wolf, if war breaks out between Pakistan and Afghanistan, you know, you may have some guys coming by and knocking on your door asking for transcripts.
Ordinarily, we don't do a question two days in a row, but this is important enough to be an exception.
The House just passed President Bush's bill to redefine the treatment of detainees, and the Senate's expected to do the same thing tomorrow.
Buried deep inside this legislation is a provision that will pardon President Bush and all the members of his administration of any possible crimes connected with the torture and mistreatment of detainees, dated all the way back to September 11, 2001.
At least President Nixon had Gerald Ford to do his dirty work.
President Bush is trying to pardon himself.
Here's the deal.
Under the War Crimes Act, violations of the Geneva Conventions are felonies, in some cases punishable by death.
When the Supreme Court ruled that Geneva Conventions apply to Al-Qaeda and Taliban detainees, President Bush and his boys were suddenly in big trouble.
They've been working these prisoners over pretty good.
In an effort to avoid possible prosecution, they're trying to cram this bill through Congress before the end of the week, when Congress adjourns.
The reason there's such a rush to do this, if the Democrats get control of the House in November, well, this kind of legislation probably wouldn't pass.
You want to know the real disgrace of what these people are about to do, or in the process of doing?
Senator Bill Frist and Congressman Dennis Hastert and their Republican stooges apparently don't see anything wrong with this.
I really do wonder sometimes what we're becoming in this country.
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While that was playing, I was going through from page 66 on, trying to find the spot where it says yelling at government people, trying to influence them.
It's just everything's an act of terror.
And then there's these really sick subsections where it says it's restricting torture, and then it says it restricts torture by enemy combatants.
It says illegal.
It says alien enemy combatants over and over again.
Alien enemy combatants.
Alien enemy combatants are not allowed to torture according to the Geneva Convention.
Alien enemy combatants aren't allowed to kill people.
Alien enemy combatants aren't allowed to wear a false emblem.
You know, if you wear a police hat, you're going to go to a FEMA camp.
Alien enemy combatants aren't allowed to shout at politicians.
I mean, I'm sitting here reading this going, what?
It's incredible!
It's incredible!
And they get on the news and say, a compromise, a defeat for Bush really showed him who the boss was.
Let me read to you, start reading, this is the Associated Press, okay?
This is AP last night, Senator Ocage detainee interrogation bill.
It's a long article.
And this is the type of stuff that's in here.
Let me find the part.
Under the bill, a terrorist being held at Guantanamo could be tried by military commission.
Under the bill, a terrorist being held at Guantanamo.
And it says this repeatedly.
You are a terrorist when you're arrested, you see.
Guilty until proven innocent.
See, all the language is changing right now.
And I saw this in multiple AP and Reuters articles.
These are talking points.
This is government written.
Listen to this.
I've got the Washington Post here saying there is no more Constitution or habeas corpus.
But they report it like it's no big deal.
Now, here are some more fair headlines.
Congress gives Bush the right to torture and detain people forever, and that's exactly what it does.
Here's one by Newshounds.
Detaining people indefinitely, even after acquittal.
Oh yeah, that's in there.
After you're acquitted, even if the tribunal happens to say you're innocent, they can still hold you.
Plus a little torture A-OK with Republican Majority Leader Bill Frist because we don't want them to have everyday rights.
And of course the stupid liberals at Newshounds, I'm sorry to say that, may act like it's a Republican thing.
The majority of the Democrats voted for this too, Bubba.
Every Republican in the Senate voted for it.
And most of the Democrats.
I don't even know what to say at this point.
Listen to this.
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Oh, by the way, there's this one.
I haven't even mentioned this.
Wiretap Bill sets up election year issue.
It's passed now, too.
And it says, quote, that the White House has had a victory here.
The House approved a bill Thursday that would grant legal status to President Bush's warrantless wiretapping program.
And then it goes on in this article and several others that say, well, he no longer has to follow the Constitution.
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It says here that almost everything in this legislation that's about to go to the president's desk is the death penalty.
And I'm just going to callangering.
An alien or unlawful enemy combatant who intentionally in the absence of military necessity appropriates or seizes property for private or personal use without the consent of a person with the authority to permit such appropriation or seizure shall be guilty of offenses.
Oh my gosh, I mean it's like denying quarter... I'm trying to find the part I read this morning where it says yelling at politicians.
Protected property, if you do something to protected property you're a terrorist.
I'm just going to have to read like 10 pages of the bill on air later just to go through all this.
And of course they mix it in with like murder, hijacking, and then next to it will be Yelling at a protected person or yelling at a government official to influence them.
Terrorist!
Terrorist!
And remember, U.S.
citizens.
And if you're such a terrorist, by the way, U.S.
citizens can be designated as this, and have been, then they just simply come and pick you up and you disappear.
I mean, if you've got such proof someone's a terrorist, such proof that it's ironclad, then allow them to have a defense.
Allow them to You're not allowed to seek habeas corpus.
You're not allowed to go to a federal court.
You're not allowed to tell anyone where you're at.
You're not allowed to contact your counsel or media.
Nothing!
There's no right!
You just disappear!
And see, the reason they codify torture, waterboarding, severe beating, all this other type of stuff, putting your body in horrible, painful positions for days, that's now called pressure.
And the law professors that have read this say that all it doesn't authorize now is rape and dismemberment, but I can't find that, and I read the whole thing.
So see, they have now just defined torture as pressure.
And then the media keeps saying it keeps the government from torturing people, but everything that's actually restricted is, it's a cruel little joke.
It keeps saying enemy combatants aren't allowed, alien enemy combatants aren't allowed to torture.
Alien enemy combatants, or, then it'll say unless prescribed by law.
Or unless it's medical.
Oh yeah, at Abu Ghraib they do lots of medical.
Oh, we have to do a surgery on your stomach.
We're not doctors, but we're now going to strap you down and cut you open without anesthesia, and then sew you up.
I mean, that's like...
Late night horror movies where, you know, the lady's walking past the mortuary, and the goons grab her and drag her in, and they go, Ha ha!
Well, we're talking about the death of the United States, the death of the Republic, the birth of total dictatorship.
And yeah, when Bush signs this, it will be an official dictatorship.
chip.
And that's actually been written as headlines by major publications, so they see it the same way.
It is, it is official, and it doesn't mean we can't get it back, doesn't mean we can't, uh, They're trying to bully us.
They're trying to scare us right now.
They're trying to intimidate us with the full horror of this.
And unless we want to unleash these monsters, literal monsters, you know, that stuff you see at Halloween, folks, again, that comes from the legends of evil people doing bad things.
And they've always existed.
They've always been here.
The Jeffrey Dahmers, the Mingolas, the George Bushes.
And they're here.
They're here, my friends.
And we've got to chase them back into the caves.
They are out in the streets.
They are on the high places.
They are openly ruling.
It is just so wicked.
I mean, wicked isn't even the word for it.
This is just open black demons literally spreading their wings over our country right now.
This is... this is...
It would be less scary if it was a horror flick, you know, like Lord of the Rings, and there's some army of, you know, some dark army at our gates.
At least the people would see the threat and fight it.
This is people in $3,000 suits, strutting around with coiffed hair, lying and spinning, and, but it comes out, oh, we're building FEMA camps, use Chronicle for you.
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Oh, yes, we can designate citizens as enemy combatants and torture children.
Now that they've passed it, There was some lying earlier this week going, oh no, it doesn't affect U.S.
citizens, but then people read the subsections and it clearly says that they just simply say you're not a citizen.
And now folks are finally reading it and it says that protesting, demonstrating, yelling, everything is terrorism.
As Dr.
Paul Craig Roberts said, what was it, yesterday or the day before?
He said, this is the end of the country, this is Nazi Germany, no one has ever codified this in law.
Not the Soviets, not the Chi-Coms, not the Nazis, not the East Germans, they just did things like this.
No, not in America!
We're so stupid that they call it a reform to protect you when it is literally the The belly of the country being slid open and our guts trailing out behind us.
Bush is busy cramming the innards of the country in his fat little mouth, smiling at us.
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But I want you listeners to know that in my 13 years, coming from 13 years of studying and fighting the New World Order, I've never seen things get anywhere close to this dark.
I've never seen things move this fast.
I've never seen the lies and the twisting by the media be so thick.
But at the same time then they'll have other articles that just admit it all and say it's all good.
And I think about everything innocent and beautiful and sweet and dear and our families and private property and And in due process of the people being in charge.
And like never before, make copies of the 9-11 films.
Call into radio talk shows every day.
Write letters to the editor every day.
Start websites.
Get aggressive.
And defend yourselves too, folks.
Liberal, conservative, it doesn't matter.
Now is the time to buy guns.
Now is the time to buy ammo.
Now is the time to go to the shooting range and just train to protect yourself from criminals.
Because this is very, very, very serious.
We have a criminal, rogue, enemy, combatant government.
They are the hijacking, piratical criminals.
The power in this legislation that they claim gives them, the legal basis claim for their actions, is legal statements and memoranda adopted by the administration from John Yu and Alberto Gonzalez, almost exclusively, is legal statements and memoranda adopted by the administration from John Yu and Alberto Gonzalez, almost exclusively, and then from the use of military force AUMF
It was just an authorization for military force, not for total dictatorship.
and And his powers under Commander-in-Chief, under Article 2, Section 2 of the U.S.
Constitution, historically and with legal precedence, does not give him that power.
And again, Bush is just a puppet.
They, on purpose, are trying to go for the whole nine yards.
Really, the whole hundred yards.
They are just throwing it down, going, yeah, we torture kids, and yeah, we'll secretly arrest you, and yeah, we're spying on you, and yeah, we can take your private property whenever we want, and yeah, there's a North American Union, and yeah, the electronic voting machines are a scam.
I mean, look at it!
We're going into dictatorship!
And folks, dictatorships are so they can rob and rape you.
Now, I want to go over this AP report.
Just because it's so amazing.
They say, the terrorists held at Guantanamo.
So the terrorists don't deserve rights.
See, guilty until proven innocent.
I don't want to go over... The Washington Post saying posse comitatus is gone.
The Washington Post saying, yeah, American citizens are enemy combatants.
The Washington Post, another article saying there's no more habeas corpus.
I mean, folks, habeas corpus!
Let's go to Kurt Nemo, prolific blogger, who called in.
I'm always honored to have Kurt call in.
Kurt, what's on your mind?
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Hey, Alex.
You know, earlier you were talking about this section in this bill that talks about menacing words, signs, or gestures.
I really can't believe that, you know, Congress put... Well, do you see the parts about moving into property that You know, owning the wrong house that you plan to use for terrorism, that's proof now?
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Yeah.
I mean, it's just... Well, you know, the Constitution's gone as far as I'm concerned.
These guys have totally destroyed the Constitution.
And you go read it and it totally rewrites our federal laws.
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Well, how do we address this bovine acceptance of people just rolling over and saying, well, you know, we've got to protect ourselves against Al-Qaeda and... Well, that's why it's so important to expose government-sponsored terror.
That's it, and if black vans start driving around with troops grabbing people, folks, you know, you gotta defend America.
Those are enemy terrorists.
They're enemy combatants.
They're the enemy combatants!
We'll be right back.
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They're moving now with all this legislation, they don't care how damning it is, because I believe they're planning to launch a massive terror attack in the western hemisphere, perpetrated by these criminals.
Now listen, I'm at the tip of the spear, I'm at the end of the sword, I'm walking point, folks.
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Hey, Alex.
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Hi.
Hey, this is only the second time I've managed to get through to you, but I just wanted to have a dialogue with you.
I think God has definitely given you the discernment to go out and give the people this knowledge.
You're definitely, I mean, you're serving a part in the whole body of Christ.
But, um, and I haven't been listening to you that long, maybe a year, but, I mean, you know, there's other resources above and beyond.
Once you shock people with the 9-11 truth and all that kind of stuff, people gotta go read Karl Marx's Ten Planks and the Communist Manifesto, you know, where they abolish private property.
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But the other thing is, too, you know what the first thing that comes is, the regime does, when they take over a country, they start teaching everybody evolution.
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No, I have said that Arnold Schwarzenegger has said he'd like to be a dictator to multiple publications, and in multiple interviews, and in a documentary, and that he admires Hitler, and that his father was a Nazi, and that he's a foreigner, and shouldn't be seeking the presidency.
I mean, it's great, but... Andrew in Canada, you're on the air.
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Hi, Alex.
Hi.
Last caller there.
He's a little bit crazy himself there.
He's got the rose colored glasses on.
It kind of hurts me though when you're talking about you think they'll come and kill you and that because like they didn't succeed with Martin Luther King.
They didn't succeed with Jesus.
The evil doesn't succeed when they kill people trying to do good.
And listen, I just want the New World Order to know that I've counted the cost and I want people to realize that I do realize the waters I'm in and that I've made the choice that it's more than worth it and I'm honored to be in the position I'm in.
And this is getting really out of control.
And I want people to realize how high the stakes are.
Hey, Rick Linkletter's gone public, MUSE has gone public, Jesse Ventura talked about 9-11 being a cover-up, we just had Charlie Sheen do it, and people will criticize these guys.
A lot of them are rebels that are going public.
It's because they are rebels.
They're not people who've just stayed in the box their whole lives.
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And again, there's this delusion out there.
I mean, I saw a Navy SEAL website saying Jesse Ventura was never a Navy SEAL.
Next they'll say he wasn't a governor.
You know, it's just any level of delusion, because to them it's easy.
You just believe the media, you believe the propaganda, you feel good, you go quietly into the night, and then when somebody grabs them, nobody's there to help them.
Thanks for the call, sir, and I appreciate your support.
Yeah, I was reading in the AP about an hour ago, they reported Alberto Gonzalez was speaking before some scholars, and I guess they include Justice Clarence Thomas as a scholar, and he was talking about how federal judges should not substitute their personal views for the president's judgments in wartime.
Yeah, now they're saying, now they're going to have a special federal committee that controls the judges to make sure that they rule certain ways.
They're trying to pass laws.
Folks, I mean, this is dictatorship.
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Oh yeah, definitely.
I just want to urge people to think outside the box.
And everybody's saying, you know, Democrats are going to save people.
Not one Democrat stood up and voted against the bill.
It was a hundred to nothing.
So, not one person stood up and said, you know, had a dissenting voice.
And also they, They tell Democrats one thing, they tell Republicans one thing, and they do this to keep us fighting with each other instead of coming together for a common solution about the issue.
Well, the beginning of the end happened a long time ago, but I mean, this is amazing.
It almost had me in tears when I was reading.
I was like, this is really amazing, the audacity of these people to To just put it out there in our face like this and people act as if it's nothing.
The media won't cover it.
They may talk about it for five minutes, not even that long.
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People who think that earlier caller was a fake, you know, call in to act stupid, he was good if he was.
But it's like that big national radio host I had on a few weeks ago, who, from England, was talking about one of the people that works there in the media.
was saying, yeah, well, we are turning to 1984, but Winston was bad, and most people liked Big Brother.
You see, I mean, that's what's happening, is people are being given this choice, they're being showed this horror of secret arrest of U.S. citizens, and they're going, okay, I'm for it.
Sounds good to me.
Maybe that's the best thing to happen.
Maybe that's freedom.
We're going to go to Paula, Jim, George, Dave, Mike, and others.
A couple program notes.
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Paul's writing another analysis right now of this bill.
I don't know about housing prices dropping that far.
I know in Massachusetts, it fell in the last three months, the last four, the last quarter, by 24% in Massachusetts.
And strangely enough, Massachusetts and Texas are seen as the two bellwethers for the overall national real estate trends because you can't look at Northern California or the Central Coast area or Southern California.
You can't look at New York, Manhattan.
You can't look at areas of Florida.
Historically, you look at Texas and Massachusetts for some reason, Boston particularly.
Because that's just been bellwethers in the past, and it's a bunch of sophisticated equations of why, but basically those are the places where the overvalue of real estate Well, there are certain areas where people just want to live, and so no matter, even if the economy crashes, you're only going to have a 20-30% reduction in real estate prices.
But then in Texas and Massachusetts and a few other places, Texas and Massachusetts mainly, that's where you really see plunges.
And then when they plunge, the rest of the economy does.
And I think the rest of real estate is already down about 9% the last quarter, and it's accelerating at the end of the quarter, and it gets into a bunch of other indices I looked at.
I don't claim to be a real estate guru or expert, but everybody basically agrees it's vastly overvalued, and that was one of the few things still driving the economy.
Let's talk to Jim in Michigan.
Jim, welcome.
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Hello, welcome, Brother Alex.
I wanted to cut it short.
Thanks again for taking the call.
About what's going on with the bills being passed and the charades that are being played, I noticed on Turner's spin machine They had the boogeyman trying to link him with waterborne viruses just probably to see what kind of reaction response the public gets.
I don't know if they're going to play any of that with the terror that's being expected for staging within the next month or so.
Like I said, I was going to cut it short for everybody.
Well that's what they do, they just constantly, there's some new unconfirmed report the boogeyman is gonna suck our blood and then it never happens and then it turns out it's all, we know officially they stage fake terror alerts, it's admitted.
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Then I'm going to recap what I've covered so far on the unbelievable legislation.
Two different pieces.
One for unlimited secret spying on the American people.
No more Fourth Amendment.
But that pales in significance to the enemy combatant legislation, which says they can arrest any U.S.
citizen, secretly for any reason, secretly try you in a kangaroo court, and secretly execute you.
I spent a couple hours last night, a couple hours this morning, trying to read the bill, trying to mark it, and I just, I'm going to have to spend hours and hours today, hours and hours tomorrow, To give you a full report, it is, again, the death of the United States, the birth of dictatorship.
The death of the United States, the birth of dictatorship.
Martial law powers rendered by Congress to the President.
I mean, that's your headline.
And I am reeling right now.
We have the LA Times, And Associated Press reporting, Yale Law Professor Bruce Ackerman states in the LA Times, the compromise legislation authorizes the President to seize American citizens as enemy combatants even if they have never left the United States and once thrown into military prison they cannot expect a trial by their peers or other for the normal protections of the Bill of Rights.
And again, they're allowed to torture you.
It says it in here, but they call it pressure.
They're allowed to torture you to then get a confession and then that can be used in court.
Hearsay is allowed.
You do not need a unanimous decision by the military tribunal.
You have military defense lawyers appointed for you that are hand-selected by the prosecution.
You don't have to believe me.
Go read the Washington Post.
No more habeas corpus.
Due process.
It says you're guilty until proven innocent.
It actually says it!
To keep us safe from those terrorist Al-Cieda.
And I just cannot believe.
Similarly, Law Professor Marty Lederman explains, this subsection II of the definition of unlawful enemy combatant means if the Pentagon says you're an unlawful enemy combatant using whatever criteria they wish, Then as far as Congress and U.S.
law is concerned, you are one, whether or not you have had any connection to hostilities at all.
That's in there.
You understand?
And by the way, it's the President, the Defense Secretary, or any of his designates, they choose, NORTHCOM chooses, now over the U.S., if you are.
And it's got stuff about owning private property, or fighting for private property, or squatting on land, protest, yelling at public officials.
Oh my gosh.
I've never seen anything like it.
I mean, this is worse than Patriot Act 2.
And again, they pass it in a week, man, like that.
Bam!
Week and a half, to be precise.
They spin it like the President's being defeated right now!
They've got three carrier groups in the Persian Gulf.
Or two in the Gulf, one in the Med, ready to attack Iran.
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Okay, well, you know how these people like to play off of specific dates, and I found something that's quite unusual.
October 28, 1886, the Statue of Liberty was dedicated That next day in 1929, that's October 29th, was the stock market crash.
And I hate to see those two dates so close before this next election.
Because I think what's going to happen is if Bush thinks he's going to lose the Republican part of the House and the Senate, we're going to see something before the vote can come in.
Well, also, most Americans just want to be around power and status.
I know people that work in the White House, several.
I'm not going to say any more.
And they've known me for years, and they'll sit around and laugh and giggle.
I went boating with one of them.
About a year ago, not this last summer, not this summer, but the last summer, one of my other friends said, I'll go ahead and go with this out on the boat.
I'm out there with this person that works in the White House, pretty high level.
And they're having these big arguments for like three hours.
Is exactly what they wanted to do and that's to stir up these people over in the Middle East to the point to where they don't have to create terror anymore.
Well, I mean, you know, they release the stuff where they make them do all those horrible things, but the Congress admits they saw the videos and Cy Hersh has talked to the officers that have seen it.
And then the Army report admits it.
When you start raping people with acid, I mean, yeah, it's Jeffrey Dahmer.
Thanks for the call.
I mean, it's just lower than the low, folks.
And the sick part is there's a White House memo telling them to do it, and then when the people get caught, they send them to prison.
Habeas corpus, you should have the body, guarantees that a person can be Only be arrested pursuant to the law and not simply at the will of some despotic governing authority.
It is a legal procedure in the form of a writ that demands that a person be brought before a magistrate and charged under due process or else he That's right, if somebody's such a terrorist, then bring in the proof, show it, send them to jail, bring in a real jury of peers, if it's so secret, you know, don't let it be public, or all of it be public.
No, no, no, they don't do that, they just say, we're gonna secretly arrest you, haul you off, and we know that the government's the real terrorist, exactly what the Founding Fathers said.
Statistically, it's the government that you've gotta be most afraid of.
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1798, Thomas Jefferson to A.H.
Rowan.
Habeas Corpus secures every man here, alien or citizen, against everything which is not law, whatever shape it may assume.
That, I mean, that says it all.
That says it all.
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You can notice in unison they're saying, oh, it's not a police state.
Alex Jones exaggerates.
Well, things aren't as bad.
You know, he and others aren't the real patriots.
We are.
Let's all fight with each other.
That's always your number one sign.
No, we need to come together with ideas of information to resist the new world order.
We'll take your calls in the next segment.
I want to read some of these news articles today.
I mean, this is the Washington Post.
This is the AP.
This is what they're saying.
And the good news is the majority of Americans know there's a cover-up at 9-11.
And a majority of that majority know it's an inside job.
Again, in the past, people would be mad at one party or the other.
Now, both parties are hated and loathed.
There is an awakening, so they're trying to pass all this secret police bull thinking, thinking, and I tell them, go ahead and start arresting citizens.
Go ahead and use your terror manuals and say gun owners and land rights and property rights activists are terrorists.
A lot of us may be jellyfish, but a bunch of us aren't.
We got a history, folks, of really staying asleep to the last minute and getting up and absolutely kicking some hind end.
Many rights in U.S.
legal system absent in new bill.
Oh, rights in U.S.
legal system, even in Constitutional Bill of Rights.
This is Washington Post.
The Military Trials Bill approved by Congress leaves legislative support for the first time to broad rules for the detention, interrogation, prosecution, and trials of terrorism suspects far different from those in the familiar American criminal justice system.
See, it's just familiar now.
This is a new system, no big deal.
Included in the bill, passed by Republican majorities in the Senate yesterday and the House on Wednesday, are unique rules that bar terrorism suspects from challenging their detention or treatment through traditional habeas corpus petitions.
They allow prosecutors under certain conditions to use evidence collected through hearsay or coercion to seek criminal convictions.
Because they need that, see, to create the fake illusion of real terrorists.
Because the people running these trials are the terrorists, folks.
The bill rejects the right to a speedy trial.
Even in the kangaroo court, it's not speedy.
And it even says in the bill, by the way, that even if you're found not guilty by the tribunal, they can still hold you.
Oh, that's really nice!
The bill rejects the right to a speedy trial and limits the traditional right to self Representation by requiring that defendants accept military defense attorneys.
That's a spin, actually.
It doesn't let you have your own private civilian lawyer.
Not just self.
Panels of military officers need not reach unanimous agreement to win convictions.
Oh, isn't that nice?
Except in death penalty cases, an appeals must go through a second military panel before reaching a federal civilian court.
And that's a secret court, by the way.
By writing into law for the first time the definition of an unlawful enemy combatant, the bill empowers the executive branch to detain indefinitely anyone it determines to have purposefully and materially supported anti-U.S.
hostilities.
Only foreign nationals among those detainees can be tried by military commissions.
That is not true.
I've got top legal scholars in the LA Times and another AP article and I've got the subsections.
I've read it.
We're writing a big analysis on this.
It says clearly they designate U.S.
citizens as enemy combatants and strip you of citizenship via a presidential or their designate's order.
Nowhere does it say U.S.
citizens can't be.
They are known and sentenced to decades in jail or put to death.
Did you hear that?
Only foreign nationals among those detainees can be tried by the military commissions as they are known and sentenced to decades in jail or put to death.
That is not true.
I mean, death must be in there.
Go read the PDF file.
We've got a link to it up on InfoWars.com, PrisonPlanet.com.
Go read the PDF for the bill and there's a little search function.
Just put death into it.
It comes up like 50 times.
It's like the articles of war they used to read on admiralty ships.
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Throughout history, powerful crime syndicates have gotten together, taken over governments, and enslaved populations that could care less about your daily life, your standard of living, your freedom.
In fact, they don't want you to be free, they want you in line.
Their real enjoyment, after they have all the power and control, is humiliating you, making you feel pathetic, taking your property, taking your children.
The Senate on Thursday endorsed President Bush's plans to prosecute and interrogate terrorist suspects, all but sealing controversial approval for legislation that Republicans intend to use on the campaign trail to assert their toughness on terrorism.
The 65-34 vote means the bill could reach the President's desk by week's end.
The House passed nearly identical legislation on Wednesday and was expected to approve the Senate bill on Friday, sending it on to the White House.
The bill would create military commissions to prosecute terrorism suspects.
It also would prohibit some of the worst abuses of detainees, like mutilation and rape, but grant the President leeway to decide which other interrogation techniques are permissible.
So, and by the way, I didn't find that in there.
It says they can do whatever they want.
See, it says, we decide what torture is, and we'll say it isn't torture.
And then the President, in some of his briefs, has said, well, we won't mutilate or rape, because that's been ordered.
That's been done.
And then the President cited John Hughes' memos as the legal authorization of what they did in the past when arguing this at the Supreme Court and now at the Congress.
It also would prohibit some of the worst abuses of detainees like mutilation and rape, but grant the President leeway to decide which other interrogation techniques are permissible.
The White House and its supporters have called the measure crucial in the anti-terror fight, but some Democrats said it left the door open to abuse violating the U.S.
Constitution in the name of protecting Americans.
Twelve Democrats sided with 53 Republicans in voting for the bill.
Lincoln Chafee, Republican, Rhode Island, in a tough re-election fight, joined 32 Democrats and the Chambers, one Independent, in opposing the bill.
Senator Olympia Snow, Republican, Maine, was absent.
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican, who helped draft the legislation during negotiations with the White House, said the measure would set up a system for treating detainees the nation could be proud of.
He said the goal is to render justice to the terrorists.
Because they're all terrorists, folks.
Even though they will not render justice to us.
Come on.
Democrats said the Republicans rushed a muscle to measure through Congress, was aimed at giving them something to tout during the election campaign.
No, it's about legalizing the criminal acts, the war crimes they've committed.
But more importantly, it's about continuing these operations.
There's no question the rush to pass the bill, which is the product of secret negotiations with the White House, is about serving a political agenda, said Kennedy.
Senate approval was the latest step in the remarkable journey that Bush has taken in shaping how the United States treats the terrorist suspects it has been holding, some for almost five years.
No charges, no nothing.
The Supreme Court nullified Bush's initial system for trying detainees in June, and earlier this month a handful of maverick GOP Senators embarrassed the President by forcing him to slightly tone down the next proposal.
And that's not true.
That was a dog and pony show, led by the agent McCain.
But they struck a deal last week, and the President and Congressional Republicans are now claiming the episode as a victory.
And it goes on.
We are not conducting a law enforcement operation against a check writing scam.
We're trying to foil a bank heist with Senator Mitch McConnell.
We are trying a war against terror and extremists who want to kill our citizens.
No, you killed our citizens.
Your criminal government did.
Just like the black men in Tuskegee and the irradiation on the children and all of it, you sick scum.
Approving the bill before lawmakers leave for the elections has been a top priority for Republicans.
GOP leaders fought off attempts by Democrats and a lone Republican to challenge the bill.
Legislation to let Bush begin prosecuting terrorists connected to the Supreme Court level of the tax justice voters headed to the polls and let Republicans use opposition by Democrats as fodder for criticizing them during the campaign.
Some want to tie the hands of our terror fighters, said Senator Christopher Bond.
And so you're going to have terror fighters on the streets.
Many of the new, tens of thousands of new grants that college students are getting are for Homeland Security.
And you see, just like you have firefighters and crime fighters, now there's terror fighters and there's no real terror.
Patriot Act being used in non-terror crimes, non-terror cases, thousands across the country.
See?
We're not going to use a Patriot Act against citizens!
We're not going to use a Patriot Act against people who aren't involved in terror!
We're not spying on you without warrants, Bush said!
The habeas corpus language in the bill is a Legally abusive of rights guaranteed in the Constitution, as the actions at Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, and secret prisons that were physically abusive of detainees and Senator Carl Levin, the top Democrat.
So, there you have it.
And it goes on and on.
Under the bill, listen carefully, under the bill a terrorist being held at Guantanamo could be tried by military commission so long as he was afforded certain rights such as the ability to confront evidence given to jury and having access to defense counsel.
Oh, can't have defense counsel, can't have a jury, can't have... And notice it says, under the bill, a terrorist being held at Guantanamo.
See, you're a terrorist first!
You're guilty!
Until proven innocent.
I know we've got a lot of calls, I'm gonna go to them, but... I really should.
The problem is I marked this bill hurriedly last night and this morning, and I marked too much of it.
And I keep looking during the break for some of the key areas... Oh, I found it.
They also just passed unlimited secret wiretaps against the American people.
In a few months they go from, we swear we're not spying on any of you, yes we know it's illegal, to, okay, we're spying on you but only bin Laden calling America, and then, okay, everything's recorded at the phone companies, ha ha ha!
The White House approved a bill Thursday that would grant legal status to President Bush's warrantless wiretapping program.
Republicans called it a test before the election of whether Democrats want to fight or coddle terrorists.
I don't know, I think the government's coddling the terrorists.
The Democrats' irrational opposition to strong national security policies that help keep our nation secure, like leaving the border open, scum, should be our great concern to the American people, Majority Leader John Boehner, Republican Ohio said in a statement after the bill passed.
232 to 191.
To always have reasons why you just can't vote yes, I think, speaks volumes.
You see, what they're going to do when they set off a nuke or blow up a city or release smallpox, is they're going to say, the Democrats got the way of us keeping you safe!
And I've heard Savage and others, Top Beatniks and others, Little Beatniks, Up on the radio and TV and everywhere saying, we're trying to protect you, but when the terrorists hit, we're going to ban protesting and ban people that were against the Patriot Act, because you caused it to happen.
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But if you just type in Title 18, Subsection 2304, you will find as used in Chapter 1, and then it goes through terrorism, and it says severe mental pain or suffering means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from The intentional infliction of threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering.
Well, the government says give up your rights or the terrorists are going to get you.
That's terrorism.
The administration or application of threatened administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to directly profound the senses of the personality.
Because there's one in here where it says United States means the United States Territories, possessions, where is it?
Where's that subsection?
I must not have printed the right subsection.
I'll look at this during the break.
Let me read this part.
This is from page 69, and this goes into the definitions of what makes you an enemy combatant.
Okay, and some of these are bad things, some of these are nothing.
Let me turn back to the start here.
Cruel or inhumane treatment, an alien, unlawful enemy, combatant who commits an act intended to inflict severe physical pain or suffering or severe mental pain, including severe physical abuse, other than pain or suffering, incidental to lawful sanctions, and it goes on.
And so there's section after section, intentionally causing serious bodily injury, mutilating or maiming, murder in violation of the law of war,
So anybody who fights back in a foreign land, destruction of property in violation of the law of war, it says an alien unlawful enemy combatant who intentionally destroys property belonging to another person in violation of the law of war shall be guilty of the offense of destruction of property in violation of the law of war and shall be subject to whatever punishment and commission may direct including getting I guess life in prison.
Using treachery or profanity Improperly using a flag of truce.
Improperly using a distinctive emblem.
Intentionally mistreating dead.
Rape.
So see, we hear in the news there's all these restrictions on this.
This restricts enemy combatants from raping.
Hijacking or hazardous a vessel or aircraft.
See, a lot of things that sound reasonable.
And it gives the terrorism definition, an alien, unlawful enemy combatant subject to the title who intentionally kills or inflicts great bodily harm on one or more persons or intentionally engages in an act that envices a wanton disregard for human life in a manner calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government
or civilian population by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct, shall be guilty of the offense of terrorism and shall be suspect of whatever punishment a commission may direct, including if death result in more than one of the victims the penalty of death.
But it's so wide, it's the same as Section 802.
This is 23 on page 69 of all these definitions.
So that one's a really scary one.
Providing material support for terrorism.
You read this.
If you give money to a charity who then gives money to a group designated as a terrorist, you can be secretly arrested, secretly tried, and secretly killed.
Invences a wanton disregard for human life in a manner calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government or civilian population by intimidating or coercion or to retaliate against government conduct.
What is the part about yelling at politicians?
Wrongfully aiding the enemy, alien, unlawful enemy combatant who is a breach of the allegiance or the duty of the United States, You see that?
When you're in breach of your allegiance to the U.S., you then become an enemy combatant by aiding, and it says, gathering news, data, anything that can help a foreign country, or any country that we're allied with.
That is, the criminals that control our government.
25 is important.
Wrongfully aiding the enemy, an alien, unlawful enemy combatant who is in breach of allegiance or duty to the United States, knowingly and intentionally aids an enemy in the United States, or who is co-belligerent, shall be guilty of the offense of wrongfully aiding the enemy and shall be subject to whatever punishment a commission may direct.
See, in breach of an allegiance to the United States.
You see that right there?
Spying!
An alien and lawful enemy combatant who, in intent for reason to believe that it is to be used in the inquiry of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign power, collects or attempts to collect certain information by clandestine means.
Remember they charged Greg Pallas with terrorism two weeks ago but had to drop it for going down and showing a FEMA camp in Louisiana?
For the purpose of conveying such information to the enemy of the United States, or one of its co-belligerents, shall be guilty of the offense of spying and shall be subject to whatever punishment a commission may, including penalty of death.
Perjury and obstruction of justice.
It says it's an act of terrorism to engage in perjury.
Contempt.
I think that's the part.
But that's what Nemo thought I was talking about.
I've gone over the part.
I flipped it open and found the part where it said, basically, to paraphrase, yelling at an official and intimidating him is terrorism.
That's also in the Patriot Act in Section 802.
But I can't find it now.
I know we've got loaded phone lines.
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From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
Number two, Anybody like Naive Boy, who called up earlier, who doesn't believe that the government is capable of doing anything like this, I'm finishing up a book on the 1932 bonus army marchers.
My name's Dan in Oklahoma, and, uh, I'd like to talk to you a little longer than 60 seconds, but anyway, I've got Jones in North Texas and up around Archer City or Montague County.
It may possibly be related, but that's probably a slight possibility.