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unidentified		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
		No, once again, it's not Alex Jones.
		This is Bob Dacey, the host of the Austin Cable Access Show, Simple Truth, sitting in for the second day for Alex.
		who is still up in New York once again he's fighting the New World Order at the where the current battle is up in New York because of the fifth anniversary of September 11th so I'm going to be holding down the fort here for the next three hours a little later on we're going to start taking calls in regard to our continuation of what we did yesterday yesterday we were talking about the everyone's favorite smoking guns of 9-1-1 I make no mistake about it.
		The criminal elements within the United States government carried out 9-1-1.
		They didn't just let it happen on purpose.
		They made it happen on purpose.
		And the evidence for it is overwhelming.
		Another thing that's overwhelming, and I am literally, literally exploding with being overwhelmed by this, is the amount of Bovine material that is being spewed out by the Bush administration and the mainstream press in regard to this anniversary.
		For example, I'm looking at a newspaper clipping from our local paper, the Austin American-Statesman, dated yesterday, and it shows Mr. Bush and his wife putting a wreath down at a reflecting pool at the Twin Towers.
		And I'm looking at this and I'm saying, your masters caused September 11th And here you are having a nice photo op to fake the American people out into thinking you give a rat's behind about all the people you killed.
		I don't know how to respond to this.
		Bush pledged to make the anniversary a day of renewing resolve to remember the lessons of the September 11th terror attacks.
		Now we're going to remember those lessons, Mr. Bush, because they're a little bit different lessons than what you're talking about.
		Here's a quote.
		I vowed that I'm never going to forget the lessons of that day.
		There is still an enemy out there who would like to inflict the same kind of damage again.
		Yeah, that's true.
		But who is the enemy?
		Another quote.
		This was from Dick Cheney from out of this article.
unidentified		There has not been another attack on the United States and that's not an accident.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
		That's not an accident.
		You were sitting there in the White House basement running the whole thing and there hadn't been an attack since then.
		I guess that's pretty strong.
		I mean, when Norman Mineta was listening to you and watching the plane come into the Pentagon and the junior officer was saying, sir, the plane is 50 miles out.
		Did the order still stand?
		Sir, the plane is ten miles out.
		Do the orders still stand?
		And Mr. Cheney whirled on him and said, Of course the orders still stand.
		Have you heard anything different?
		And then of course the plane smacks into the Pentagon.
		So, you know, I... Then you have Tony Snow, I call him Tony Snow Job, a presidential spokesman, says he rejected suggestions that the administration's hunt for Osama Bin Laden had bogged down.
		He says, we've never stopped looking for him.
		That's what Snow told reporters aboard Air Force One.
		Yeah, and OJ has never stopped looking for the killers of Nicole.
		He's been searching every golf course in America for years.
		It's just patently ridiculous.
		And again, certain words you can't say on the radio.
		You can say bovine material, I think.
		I think you can say fecal matter.
		There are certain things that you can't say, and I'm not going to say.
		But I have a bovine materialometer, or a fecal materialometer, and it is broken.
		And what I'm going to do for the first segment of the show After we get back from the break, I'm going to go through some of the speech that our imperious leader made last night and see if I can rip it to shreds.
		So this is Bob Dacey for Alex Jones.
		We'll be back in a few minutes, and we're going to take on the president.
unidentified		We'll be back in a few minutes.
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bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're back again.
		This is Bob Dacey substituting for Alex Jones, and we're talking about 9-1-1 again.
		And I was discussing the fact that my BS-ometer broke last night.
		I was watching an ABC special event called The Path to 9-1-1.
		Which was a pure load of horse manure.
		Total propaganda from one end to the other.
		Just lie after lie after lie after omission after omission after omission.
		And I was watching it and lo and behold our imperious leader interrupts the show.
		This is all just so staged.
		Our imperious leader interrupts the show to give his speech.
		The calling of our generation.
		So I got to watch our president, the puppet in chief, feed some more material to the American people.
		And I'm going to read a few excerpts from this speech because I was coming out of my chair last night and you know, I'm lucky here.
		I get this, I don't know how many million people are listening right now, but I get this opportunity to vent.
		And so I'm going to vent right now.
		So here we go.
		This is the President last night.
unidentified		Nineteen men attacked us with a barbarity unequaled in our history.
		They murdered people of all colors, creeds, and nationalities.
		They made war upon the entire free world.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Nineteen people, Mr. President.
		Yeah.
		Trained at U.S.
		military facilities.
		Yeah.
unidentified		Uh-huh.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		He forgot to mention that part.
		He forgot to mention that several of them were trained at U.S.
		military facilities because they were patsies working for the people who really did this.
		He forgot that part.
		Alright.
		Later on in his speech he says, For many of our citizens the wounds of that morning are still fresh.
		I've met firefighters and police officers who choke up at the memory of fallen comrades.
		Yeah, uh-huh.
		I wonder whether he has met Louie Caccioli, the 50-some-odd-year-old firefighter who publicly stated that there were bombs in the building.
		I wonder whether he talked to Louie or not, you know?
		There's a magazine that Life Magazine put out, a commemorative called One Nation.
		America remembers September 11, 2001 and they have Louie Caccioli in here as one of the heroes of 9-1-1 but they don't mention anything that he said of substance.
		Here's a quote from Louie Caccioli, the firefighter, one of the heroes of 9-1-1.
		My story was never mentioned in the final report.
		Of course, he's talking about the 9-1-1 Commission report.
		I felt like I was being put on trial in a courtroom.
		I finally walked out.
		They were trying to twist my words and make the story only fit what they wanted to hear.
		All I wanted to do was tell the truth, and when they wouldn't let me do that, I walked out.
		It was a disgrace to everyone.
		The victims and the family members who lost loved ones.
		I don't agree with the 9-1-1 Commission.
unidentified		The whole experience was terrible.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Now, that's Louie Caccioli, one of the firefighters who said that bombs were going off in the building.
		I wonder if Mr. Bush, you know, talked to his fallen comrades about that.
		What do you think?
		And of course, related to that, we have an article here out of the American Statesman.
		Study 70% of Ground Zero workers are ailing.
		Nearly 70% of the rescue and cleanup workers who toiled in the dust and fumes at Ground Zero Have had trouble breathing and many will probably be sick for the rest of their lives.
		Doctors said Tuesday in releasing the results of the biggest September 11th health study yet.
		And then Dr. Robin Herbert, co-director of a group that did this said, is joined by lawmakers who accuse the federal government of not doing enough to protect the workers health and not spending enough to treat them.
		Mayor Michael Bloomberg cast doubt on the study's claims, saying, quote, I don't believe that you can specifically, specifically a particular problem can come from this particular event.
		Oh yeah, you know, it's very common for police and firefighters to breathe the toxic fumes from the collapse of the three buildings that pulverized themselves into dust.
		You couldn't possibly make a connection between all those workers that spent weeks and weeks and weeks cleaning that stuff up and the fact that they got sick.
		Mayor Bloomberg, what is your problem, buddy?
		What is your major problem?
		And of course, you know, Christine Todd Whitman, the CFR member who is the head of the EPA, well she told them after all that the air was safe to breathe.
		There's an article here from the Newark Star-Ledger by Bob Braun.
		911 rescuers need our help now.
		You have a doctor by the name of Robert Lajita says that the EPA issued reports indicating that the air in lower Manhattan was safe to breathe.
		Well, gee, I guess, but Mr. Bush, you're sitting there remembering, I've met firefighters and police officers who choke up at the memory of fallen comrades.
		I can't stand this.
		I can't stand it.
		It's, it's, it's, it's theater of the worst kind.
		It's theater of the worst kind.
		Here's one document, Sound Zero Toxins.
		This is by a Marsha Kramer from WCBSTV.com.
		They knew about it.
unidentified		You know, that's what they think, you know, of the police.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You know, Alex was, was on the show.
		He called in yesterday and he said, That while he was down there, all the police, all the firemen were, you know, high-fiving him or whatever, saying, yeah, they know what's going on now.
		Most of the police, he said, and virtually all the firemen know what happened on September 11th, and know how their comrades were murdered because of what these people did.
		And they know Alex is telling the truth.
		Now, you know, it's not nice to kill policemen and firefighters, President Bush.
unidentified		It's not a nice thing to do.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Now, let me go on with the speech President Bush made.
		Since the horror of 9-1-1, we've learned a great deal about the enemy.
		We've learned that they are evil and they kill without mercy, but not without purpose.
		I absolutely agree with that statement, Mr. Bush.
		Absolutely agree with that one.
		No question about it.
		And later on he says, We are in a war that will set the course for this new century and determine the destiny of millions across the world.
		Yeah, a war.
		A war based on a stack of lies.
		Based on lies.
		And by the way, as a minor point, an unconstitutional war, Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution gives only the Congress the power to declare war, the power to put American young people in harm's way.
		And of course, that didn't happen, did it?
		So, yeah, we're in a war that will set the course of this new century, Mr. Bush.
		An undeclared war based on lies.
		Alright?
		Later on he says, The regime of Saddam Hussein was a clear threat.
		Oh yeah?
		Yeah, uh-huh, and it was linked to Al-Qaeda, right?
		You know, they were helping the terrorists.
		Well, even the mainstream media now, I've got an article once again from our local paper, The Statesman, says right here, Saddam and Al-Qaeda not linked.
		Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein distrusted the Al-Qaeda terrorist Organization rebuffed its requests for aid and tried unsuccessfully to capture one of its senior operatives, the Senate Intelligence Committee, reported Friday.
		The report, based on an extensive review of post-war intelligence, appeared to undercut a key claim with the Bush administration that Saddam's ties to terrorist groups posed a threat to the United States and its allies.
		What do you mean, appeared to undercut a key claim?
		As long ago as October 2002, Bush asserted that, quote, Iraq and Al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade.
unidentified		and Iraq could decide on any given day to give a dangerous weapon to a terrorist group.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		At that time, though, the U.S.
		intelligence community had no evidence of close links between Saddam and Al-Qaeda terrorists, and analysts had noted Saddam viewed Muslim extremists as a threat, the Senate Committee reported.
		So you have Saddam versus Al-Qaeda here in a little box in this article.
		So he distrusted Al-Qaeda and the Al-Qaeda operative Abu Massab al-Zarqari was in Baghdad in 2002 but Saddam actually tried to capture him rather than help him.
		There is no credible evidence that Iraq was involved in or had knowledge in advance of the September 11, 2001 attacks.
		Saddam wasn't reconstituting a nuclear weapons program and had no biological or chemical weapons stockpiles And false information from Iraqi exiles was used to support a key U.S.
		intelligence assessments on Iraq.
		So, Mr. President, yeah, I'm sure that Saddam Hussein was a clear threat.
		We'd already knocked the snot out of him several years earlier when he had no fly zones over his own country.
		We had a stranglehold around the guy.
		But he was a threat, wasn't he, Mr. President?
		Yeah, he was a threat to oil company profits, so we had to shut off the supply.
		Didn't we, sir?
		Okay, let's see what else we have on his speech here.
		He says that the challenge is to help the Iraqi people build a democracy that fulfills the dreams of the nearly 12 million Iraqis who came out to vote in the free elections last December.
		Yeah, there's that standard old garbage line about democracy.
		You know, two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
		Democracy is a step towards oligarchy and that's just a stone cold fact.
		And that's even if you believe the assertion that we are trying to build a democracy over there.
		We're not trying to build a democracy over there.
		What we're trying to do is screw everything up as much as we can to create chaos.
		That's what we're trying to do.
		You know, you can ask the big Neal Brzezinski about that in his book, The Grand Chess Board.
		You've got to make sure that no one... We've got to keep the... What did he call them?
		Keep the barbarians from coming together?
		So, you know, I'm going to finish up with this President Bush's speech here, when we get back, again, my bovine materialometer is just exploding.
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		My name is Bob Dacey.
		Substituting for Alex Jones today while he's up in New York.
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		Okay, I've been trashing the Puppet-in-Chief's speech that he made last night, and I want to just finish up with that before we go on to the next segment or take calls.
		He also talks about how they're really trying to help the Iraqis.
unidentified		We're training Iraqi troops so they can defend their nation.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		We're helping Iraq's unity government grow in strength and serve its people.
		Now, you know, I have an article from the Statesman, again refuting that, from a general, an American general.
		Rumsfeld refused to plan for post-war Iraq, the general says.
		Long before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld forbade military strategists to develop plans for securing a post-war airlander of the Army Transportation Corps said Thursday.
		Rumsfeld said, quote, he would fire the next person, end quote, who talked about the need for a post-war plan.
		Did you hear that?
		Oh man, he would fire the next person who talked about the need for a post-war plan.
		Mark Sheed says, on September 11th, life just went to hell.
		Then, just as we were going barely into Afghanistan, Rumsfeld came in and told us to get ready for Iraq.
		He called this something about Phase 4, the piece of the plan that included post-invasion operations such as security and reconstruction.
		Sheed says, quote, he said we will not do that.
		In other words, announce a Phase 4 about reconstruction.
		Because the American public will not back us if they think we're going over there for a long war." End quote.
		She said, yeah, you just went over there to help those Iraqi people there, didn't you, Mr. Bush?
		Yeah, you're just gonna, you're just gonna serve those people on Iraq, didn't you?
		Yeah, you served them real well.
		You've murdered 100,000 of them.
		Okay, and then later on in his speech, he says, We've tightened security at our airports and seaports and our borders.
		Now, you know, I shouldn't be falling over and laughing right now, but if I was, I couldn't get to the microphone, so I just have to sit here.
		Yeah, the borders are wide open, ladies and gentlemen.
		They've never been more wide open than they are right now, and that's a bunch of nonsense.
		Absolute bunch of nonsense.
		And here he goes with some more of this flowery language.
		One of the strongest weapons in our arsenal is the power of freedom.
		The terrorists are thrown into panic at the sight of an old man pulling an election Yeah, you know, these old terrorist guys over there in the Middle East, they were just, you know, one day they just woke up and they just decided that, well, gee, we just hate those Americans, let's go kill them.
		For no reason whatsoever, they just wake up and think that.
		And that is the standard line we've been hearing for years, and you know it can't be true.
		People on the other side of the world don't just wake up one day for no reason and say, gee, I hate those Americans, let's go kill some.
		You know, that is ridiculous.
		And he talks about us being in the early hours of the struggle between tyranny and freedom, and I agree with that.
		We are in a struggle between tyranny and freedom, but it's not in the early hours.
		It's been going on for hundreds of years.
		And at the end of his speech he says, Dangerous enemies have declared their intention to destroy our way of life.
		They're not the first to try, and their fate will be the same as those who tried before.
unidentified		9-11 showed us why.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right, Mr. President.
		Why don't you go look in the mirror, you and all your buddies, and figure out who the guilty party is, and all this.
		Okay, we are going to continue with what we did yesterday in regard to smoking guns of 9-1-1, because we didn't get through maybe half of them.
		And we're going to put out the number.
unidentified		It's 1-800-259-9231.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		1-800-259-9231, but I want to tell you now, I want to tell you the smoking guns that we've already covered.
		Okay, so we don't want to be going too much over the same territory.
		We've already covered the neocons and all their plans for world domination.
		We've talked about that.
		We've pretty much covered the controlled demolition of WTC1 and WTC2, although there's a little extra on there.
		We've definitely covered World Trade Center number 7.
		Silverstein's little admission that he blew number seven up, we've already talked about that.
		We've already talked about the NORAD drills and how come the military just sat on its tail instead of doing their normal thing when the four airliners got hijacked.
		And we've talked about Cheney's stand down order where he was sitting there watching the plane or whatever it is come in to the Pentagon saying, have you heard anything different?
unidentified		Yeah, the order still stands.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		It's only ten miles out, right?
		When we get back from the break, we're going to take calls about the smoking guns of 9-1-1.
		We're on the march.
unidentified		The Empire's on the run.
		We're on the march.
		The empire's on the run.
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bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're back on the Alex Jones Show.
		This is Bob Dacey sitting in for Alex Jones.
		And I would be remiss if I didn't remind you that if you want to really understand what's going on in this world today, you need to get a copy of Alex Jones' latest video, Terror Storm.
		And you can get that by going to InfoWars.com and click on their store section and buy it right off InfoWars.com.
		Gotta get Terror Storm because uh... you know if you're asleep it'll wake you up.
		Okay so we're going to be talking now about more of the smoking guns of 9-1-1 and I understand our first caller up is Bill from Arizona.
		Bill, welcome to the Alex Jones Show.
unidentified		Hi Mr. Dacey.
		How you doing?
		Pleasure to talk to you.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well good talking to you.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		What's on your mind?
unidentified		Uh... I was watching a special on Dateline last night about Flight 93 and I'm totally convinced that that plane was shot down and it wasn't Well, I think you're probably right.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		From what I have read and what I have understood, there were witnesses that saw it trailing smoke and that it left an 8-mile debris field, small debris field, you know, small parts.
		And that one of the engines was found over a mile away.
		All of that is completely inconsistent with a bunch of crazy Arabs fighting over the joystick with a bunch of passengers as they nosedive the thing into the ground.
		So absolutely.
unidentified		Do you have any more input on that?
		They were using cell phones.
		At first they were saying that.
		Last night on the special they were specifying that they were using the air phones.
		They didn't want the people.
		They're trying to mislead the public.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		Well, the cell phone thing is another thing.
		I have read about the impossibility of, or not impossibility, but the poor percentage of cell phone calls that go through at a high altitude.
		Yeah.
		And so you just kind of wonder whether that was also more of a psychological operation to, you know, make the tear jerking come down on the American people.
		Right, right.
unidentified		And then they were saying that they sent up jets from Langley.
		I don't know where the Langley Airfield is in Pennsylvania.
		And they showed one of the tapes that the jet fighter pilot said, well, he's down.
		But they didn't say he shot it down, but I think he did.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, that's a big mess.
		Okay, Bill, thank you very much for the call.
		I appreciate it.
		You know, once again, that reminds me of what Bill just said.
		I was watching this propaganda piece last night on ABC and they showed a sequence where one of the planes is hijacked and the guys immediately, immediately scramble a fighter.
		And I'm just rolling.
		I'm just saying, okay, let me get this straight.
		The facts are they did.
		They sat on their tail forever.
		They got them up way too late to send them in the wrong directions.
		And ABC is trying to con the people into thinking that they scramble fighters immediately.
		And it's just, it's just beyond disgusting.
		Okay.
		Next up, I think we've got Harvey in Florida.
		Harvey, welcome to the Alex Jones Show.
unidentified		Oh, hiya, Bob.
		I've been listening to you the last two days.
		It's very good to hear your voice.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, I had to come down here because all the people that know what they're doing are up in New York, and I was still here, so here I am.
unidentified		You have a very calm, relaxed attitude on the radio there.
unidentified		Very calm.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, in that way, Alex Jones and I are completely incompatible, but that's just the way it is.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		He's the way he is, I'm the way I am, and we're both on the same page.
unidentified		Well, yeah, let's get back to the issues at hand, though.
unidentified		First of all, if you remember correctly, and maybe you know more about it than me, but I believe Marvin Bush was in charge of security at the World Trade Center.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		There's a good one.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's another one.
unidentified		Did he ever testify in front of the fake 9-11 Commission, you think?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know.
		They don't tell me everything.
		9-1-1 Commission, of course, was commissioned to cover up the murders.
		They weren't commissioned to find out anything.
unidentified		Right, because Daddy Bush's friend was the guy in charge of the Commission, you know.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so we're talking about, I think the company was called Securecom?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Was the company that had the contracts for the security on the World Trade Center prior to September 11th and by some strange coincidence Marvin Bush was involved in that company and that although in and of itself it's not a smoking gun I think it's a smoldering flame there.
unidentified		That's something that dropped that whole story has been covered over like Like with concrete, and I bet you all you needed to do was slip him a little dose of truth serum.
unidentified		And have them testify in front of a real commission and I bet we would find out what the whole thing was all about, wouldn't you?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't it be great if you could arrest some of these guys and in exchange for a lighter sentence they would roll over on the higher-ups?
unidentified		That'd be great.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know about that stuff, but it would be an interesting thing to do.
		Okay, Harvey from Florida.
		Thank you very much for the call, sir.
		I appreciate it.
		And so he's talking about Marvin Bush and Securicom.
		Alright, next up we've got Steve from Colorado.
		Steve, welcome to the Alex Jones Show.
unidentified		Yeah, hi there.
		I'd spoken to you yesterday and I had a couple extra questions I wanted to ask you.
		But first of all, the caller that mentioned about where Langley is, it's not in Pennsylvania, it's in Virginia.
		It's near, it's at Hampton Roads.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		There in Virginia.
unidentified		So anyway, First of all, do you know of any film footage of the first aircraft hitting the tower?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, there is that one, the Nadei Brothers film, where those French guys were doing a documentary about the New York Fire Department.
unidentified		Do you know how they spell the last name?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I think it's N-A-U-D-E-T.
		Oh, okay.
		It's not real great footage, but they heard the plane coming in and they whirled the camera up and you can see a long distance shot.
		It's not a very good shot.
		That reminds me that our illustrious monkey-in-chief He couldn't even get his roll correct on September 11th when he said that he saw the plane strike the first tower.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that odd?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Because either he just couldn't quite get his roll correct, you know, maybe his earpiece wasn't working in his ear at that time or whatever, but he said that and obviously he couldn't have seen the first plane hit the first tower unless of course he was watching it on closed circuit television.
unidentified		Exactly, yeah.
unidentified		Alright.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		What else?
unidentified		Did I cut you off yesterday or earlier or something like that?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You have another point to make and I didn't let you make it?
unidentified		Oh, that's cool.
		Yeah, I know there are a lot of callers and so I'll try and make them quick today.
		Okay, do you know of any other besides them?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Not of the first hit, no.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I do not know of anything else, no.
unidentified		Okay.
		The second question, is there really any proof that the people, the supposed hijackers, were on those aircraft?
		Is there any real solid proof other than them saying that they were?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, how do I answer that?
		Gosh.
		I know that there's a lot of confusion on that.
		I mean, like I think when they released the so-called DNA evidence from all the people that died in the Pentagon crash, there weren't any Arabs on there, on the list.
		And I don't know whether they can say, well, you see, we don't include hijackers as part of the passengers.
		Unless they were.
		I mean, maybe when you hijack a plane, You no longer have passenger status and therefore you don't get included on the DNA list.
		I don't know.
unidentified		Kind of a persona non grata, huh?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like, well, you were a passenger until you pulled out the box cutter knife.
		I mean, you know, and defeated the former military people who are sitting up there in the front of the plane.
		You were.
		How were they able to even come up with this list if they said that they used Well, you know, that reminds me of another very confusing smoking gun of 9-1-1, and what that smoking gun is, is that several of the hijackers are protesting their innocence, still.
unidentified		Right, yeah, that's right.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And it's like, okay, let me get this straight.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Let me see if I can find my little blurb on that here.
unidentified		There were, um, I forgot about that, but back just after that had happened, um, I had copied some stuff off of the net that, uh, like seven were found alive.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's, it's interesting.
		Here's one, uh, suicide hijacker, Waleed Al-Shahiri, um, and hijacked suspects alive and well.
		Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al-Shahiri was one of the five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Center on 11 September.
		His photograph was released and has since appeared in newspapers and on television around the world.
		Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.
		I mean, they haven't changed this.
		I mean, come on.
		What's going on there?
		You've got a really good point there, and that's another smoking gun.
		Some of these guys are alive.
		And you know, I'm not a real intellectual, but I believe that if you're alive after having supposedly, yeah, after supposedly crashing the plane into the tower, then you probably weren't on the plane.
		I think that's true.
unidentified		Steve in Colorado, thank you very much.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much for the call.
		Sorry about that.
		I have Alex Jones on the line here.
unidentified		Alex, what is going on up there in New York today?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm here at the Pratt House, where the terrorists that carried out 9-11 are based.
		We're here at Pratt House, where the elite scum nest.
		The Royal Institute of International Affairs set it up in the early 20s to overthrow the United States, and we're looking at some of the cockroaches right here that come out to look at us.
		The police have put us in a little free speech pen across the street, but I'm only about 25 feet away from CFR members and others, and we're going to chant at them right now and let them know that we're aware.
unidentified		The CFR are the state of 9-11!
unidentified		- We're here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're here at the CFR.
unidentified		Here they are.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Council, we're here at the CFR.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here's where they are.
unidentified		Down with M.W.O.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're here at the real seat of government, the shadow government.
unidentified		We're at Pratt House right now in New York City, just a few feet away from the building.
unidentified		We're 20 feet, 25 feet away from their front door.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alex, tell David Rockefeller that we said hello.
unidentified		David Rockefeller admits in his own memoir that he wants to destroy the United States.
		He's a traitor!
		David Rockefeller is cancer to the United States.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The CFR are the very same globalists that orchestrated 9-11 and are using it to destroy our freedom.
unidentified		Gary Hart went on TV three days after the attacks on 9-11 and said, there is a chance for us to turn lemons into lemonade and use this disaster to carry out what George Herbert Walker Bruce said, the New World Order.
		They said that they were going to use 9-11 to carry out the New World Order.
		That was on TV!
		Those are their words!
		Those are their exact words.
		Here's a message from the Navy!
		Previous murderers!
		NWO!
		Previous murderers!
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		Treasonous murderers NWO! Treasonous murderers NWO! Treasonous murderers NWO! Treasonous murderers NWO! Treasonous murderers NWO!
		Free this murder!
		Idiot!
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jesus murderers in W.O.!
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		Bob Dacey?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Alex, have you been able to see anybody that you recognize up there, or just some of these underling members?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You see anybody, big names up there?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There's about 4,000 of those guys somewhere, but they're not all in the building at the same time.
		I thought I recognized, but I'm not sure.
		Some security guards in suits walking around staring at us.
unidentified		There's about 4,000 of those guys somewhere, but they're not all in the building at the same time.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Members of the press are members of the CFR, like Diane Sawyer, for example.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I believe she was a director of the CFR at one time.
unidentified		You were talking about a corrupt group of people there.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I know that Dan Rather was in the CFR.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Most, I mean, most of your top journalists are CFR members, and that's how come they spew the nonsense that they spew in the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is the real mafia.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is the good old boys club.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And, of course, you've got all the bankers, all the international bankers.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		A lot of those are guys in the CFR.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have a comment and then just a few minutes of folks out here speaking, and then we'll get back to your regular broadcast.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, let them have it, Alex.
unidentified		This is the Global Mafia.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is the real mafia!
		4,000 criminals publicly sworn to destroy U.S.
		sovereignty and bring in a one-world government where we have no liberties or freedoms!
		4,000 criminals colluding together staging terror attacks to try to bring the United States to its knees!
unidentified		This is the real shadow government!
unidentified		It's now been admitted you're a bunch of sick criminals!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		We're going to be... Oh, you know, I think that's a brilliant idea because that's where the roaches nest.
unidentified		That's it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You ever heard anybody protesting at the scene of our?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I think that's a brilliant idea because that's where the roaches nest.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, normally people just protest the puppets.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're not protesting the puppets.
unidentified		You've gone straight to the source, Alex.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You've gone straight to the source.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Preasonous Murderer CFR! Preasonous Murderer CFR! Preasonous Murderer CFR! Preasonous Murderer CFR!
unidentified		Preasonous Murderer CFR!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I'm here in New York at the true U.S.
		Capitol building.
		The seat of the treasonous murderers of the C.F.R.
		Bob Desi.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, formed in 1921 at the behest of Edward Mandel House, who was a socialist who dreamed of socialism and was dreamed of by Karl Marx.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is the house that the British agent Edward Mandel House built.
		This is the British arm that publicly controls our country.
		We beat you in 1776 and we're going to beat you again, traitors!
		We're going to defeat, this is the real shadow government right here.
unidentified		NO AMERICAN UNION!
		NO AMERICAN UNION!
		NO NORTH AMERICAN UNION!
		No American Union!
		Let's be clear: No North American Union, the public won't get it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No North American Union!
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		It's here!
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bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones is up there live in New York at the Pratt House, the home of the CFR, the Council on Foreign Relations, and we're going to go straight back to Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		On page 400, on page 405 of David Rockefeller's book, Memoirs, published in 2003, To paraphrase, you can pull it up, you can read it, go to the library, he says there are people who claim that me and my family are trying to destroy U.S.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		sovereignty and bring in a one world government, world taxation, world regulation.
unidentified		And he said if that's the charge, then I think I'm guilty!
		You're guilty, you piece of filth!
		You un-American traitor!
		You un-American piece of filth!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We actually love the red white and blue and we're here to defend it from you robber baron parasites!
unidentified		9-11's a CFR job!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		9/11 to CFR job!
		9-11 is a CFR job.
		We're taking it right to the enemy of the American people.
		We're defending the republic 110% rally.
		Go to every hill and mountain in America.
		Go to every church.
		Go to every school.
		Go to every place and warn everyone.
		The new old order is upon us.
		We are resisting it.
unidentified		We're fighting it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're fighting it for America.
unidentified		Join us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We need you to come to our aid.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We are the Paul Revere's here warning you.
unidentified		I don't care you throw that in our face.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bob, this is powerful, isn't it?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think you were right in the middle of the hornet's nest there, Alex.
		You know, Alex Jones doesn't mess around.
		He just says, OK, who's doing this?
		And he goes straight to their headquarters.
unidentified		We're shutting the Federal Reserve down!
		Your private banking cartel's going down!
		Because all we've been doing with our tax money since 1913 is lining your fat pockets!
		We're paying for this damn building!
		I'm privatizing the Federal Reserve!
		Uncapitalize the Federal Reserve!
		Unfollow the Federal Reserve!
		Unfollow the Council on Foreign Relations!
		And arrest the criminals!
		Uncapitalize the Federal Reserve!
		You think we don't know who did this?
		We know who did this!
		Right.
		You did it.
		I did.
		Four years ago, nobody knew it was an inside job.
		Now everybody knows it's an inside job.
		Four years ago, only a handful knew it was an inside job.
		Now the majority of the country knows it's an inside job.
		Four years ago, only a handful knew it was an inside job.
		Now the majority of the country knows it's an inside job.
		Right now, only a handful knows it's a CFR job.
		Soon, the majority of the country will all know about the CFR.
		You overreached!
		You went too far!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You overplayed your head!
		Your hubris will bring you down, terrorists!
		CFR terrorists!
unidentified		The New World Order is going down!
		You're going down!
		We will not be subjugated!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're on the march!
unidentified		I don't know what course other men may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
unidentified		We're on the march!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The empire's on the run!
unidentified		Down with NWO!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bob Daisy?
unidentified		Yeah, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know you're about to go to break.
		I'm going to let you go.
		This ends our live coverage of what's happening in New York.
		I'll be coming back tonight.
		I'll be back live on the air tomorrow.
		I'll let you get to your third and second hour.
		I really appreciate you doing a great job.
		This broadcast is available on MP3 CD format at GCNlive.com or call toll-free 877-300-7645.
unidentified		More.
		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Alright, this is Bob Dacey sitting in for Alex Jones.
		And if you've been listening, you've found out that he's up in front of the Pratt House right now in New York City protesting the Council on Foreign Relations at their headquarters.
		Just a little background on the CFR.
		They were established in 1921 by the efforts of Edward Mandel House, Woodrow Wilson's Henry Kissinger, and the man in the book he wrote called Philip Drew Administrator.
		Edward Mandel House wrote very plainly that his goal was to establish a government in the United States, to overthrow our government and establish a government that Karl Marx would like it.
		That's what he said in his book.
		And if you want further confirmation of the CFR and what they're about, read the writings of their own people.
		get a hold of a history book called Tragedy and Hope that was written by Carol Quigley back in the 60s.
		He was a Georgetown University professor, and he was a CFR member, and he actually worked as a CFR, and he just flat out admitted it.
		You know, the CFR came out of the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, and out of the American branch, and yes, that came out of Cecil Rhodes and his desire to absorb the wealth of the world into the hands of a few, and that's what the CFR is supposed to do.
		And we love to deal with communists, anybody we want to, and we run everything, and we love it, and we control both political parties at the very top, and you cretins can elect whoever you want to elect at the top.
		It doesn't matter that we put them both up, so we don't care who wins.
		I mean, it's all in Carol Quigley's book, Tragedy and Hope, and you know, we love to use their own stuff against them.
		Um, speaking of CFR members, uh, before we go to our next call, I've got a clip I want to play.
		Uh, a CFR member by the name of, um, Thomas Keene, former governor of New Jersey, uh, is the guy who, uh, chaired the 911 commission.
		And I want to play a clip of me versus him on March 31st up at Georgetown in north of Austin at a press conference asking him about why he said finding the money trail of who financed September 11th is not important.
		Go ahead and play that, guys.
		How can you say that the question of who bankrolled the deaths of 3,000 American people on September 11th is, quote, of little practical significance?
unidentified		Because it cost so little money.
		That's the awful thing about it.
		It cost less than $500,000.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		That's why it was so hard to trace.
unidentified		We were able to find pieces of the $500,000, but it came in very small pieces.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		The FBI agent Robert Bryant was on the money trail of money coming from Saudi Arabia, some from the Arab countries, into this country to finance terrorist operations here in the United States.
unidentified		He's trying to go public and the FBI shut him up and threatened him.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Did he testify before the commission?
unidentified		I believe so.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		We had over 2,000 witnesses.
unidentified		We had anybody who had any information.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		But there wasn't a word of what he said in your report.
unidentified		Well, there may have been.
		But we would not allow it.
		Okay, that was that.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead and take that one down.
		I continued on with my banter with Mr. C.F.R.
		guy, Governor Keene, about that, and he was sitting there saying, well, you know, it's just, I mean, understand this.
		People of America, okay?
		Understand this.
		The 9-1-1 Commission is supposed to investigate what happened on September 11th and why.
		You got 3,000 people murdered, okay?
		You got the scenario here, okay?
		This guy, a CFR member, is appointed to find out everything, okay?
		The man is saying that when you do the investigation of who bankrolled The operation.
		It's of little practical significance.
		Come on.
		It's on page 172 of the 9-1-1 Commission Report.
		The matter of who financed September 11th is, quote, of little practical significance, unquote.
		Come on.
		Can you smell?
		Cover up.
		We'll be back after the break.
unidentified		We'll be back after the break.
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bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		All right, Bob Dacey back again in the saddle for Alex Jones while he's up in New York bullhorning the Council on Foreign Relations.
		You know, before the break I was talking about Governor Thomas King and his cover-up commission.
		And I was saying that, you know, he said it's not important, understand this, it is not important To investigate who financed September 11th, according to the 9-1-1 Commission on page 172.
		Do the math, people.
		The man said that it cost $500,000.
		As an aside, I wonder how he knew that if he only found bits and pieces of it.
		But he said it cost $500,000 to kill 3,000 people.
		Well, do the math.
		to kill 3,000 people.
		Well, do the math.
unidentified		$500,000 is about 3,000 people.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		That's $166 a person.
		So, the moral for this story, ladies and gentlemen, is if you want to hire somebody to kill somebody, if you want to hire a hitman to go out and murder somebody, get a real cheap one.
		$166 tops.
		Okay?
		Because if you only spend $166 to kill somebody, then the cops will know that it's not worth their trouble to investigate Who paid for the hit?
		You see?
		That's 9-1-1 Commission logic.
		And again, with the fact that Alex Jones is up there in front of the CFR, I feel compelled to remind you that Thomas Keene is a member of the CFR.
		Lee Hamilton, who is the Vice Chair of the 9-1-1 Commission, is a member of the CFR.
		Other members, Bob Carey, John F. Lehman, and Jamie Eskerelek, are members of the CFR.
		And the Executive Director of the 9-1-1 Commission, Philip Zelikow, is a member of the CFR.
		And so, Alex is up there ranting and raving about arrest the criminals and go after these crooks because they did 9-11?
		And you think he's crazy?
		Absolutely not.
		He's right on.
		He's right on the nose.
		So, again, we're talking about 9-1-1 smoking guns, and I believe we have Kathy from Texas up on the Alex Jones Show.
		Kathy, are you still there?
unidentified		Yes, Bob, I'm one of your fans, and come by your store some, and I have a question for you.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I hope I can answer it.
unidentified		I think you can.
		I've been trying to convince my relatives of the truth of this information.
		And I've just gotten an email from one of them and it says watch where your sources are and citing the Popular Mechanics viewpoint and all of that.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		What would you suggest as things they can read?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		These people are... Well, things they can read.
		Let's talk about that for a second.
		Things they can read.
		Captain, I'm going to let you go and I'm going to answer that question.
		Things they can read.
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		If you're curious, what you need to do, and this is my opinion, and it's my considered opinion, you need to go to jbs.org.
		That's the main website of the John Birch Society.
		That's JBS.org.
		The John Birch Society is the oldest organization in the United States fighting the New World Order.
		The John Birch Society was established in the late fifties specifically to fight the New World Order.
		And a lot of people don't like the John Birch Society for whatever reason.
		They say they're too tame, maybe they're too conservative or whatever.
		But let me tell you something.
		When you want documentation Of the existence of the New World Order, what they're about, how long it's been going on.
		The best place to go is the John Birch Society, because they have 50 years of documentation, solid, hardcore documentation of what the New World Order crowd is about, why they're doing what they're doing.
		And the evidence that they have compiled is absolutely sterling.
		They use the same technique that I use all the time, which is use the enemy's own stuff against them.
		You know, for example, the quote that Alex was screaming at the CFR a few minutes ago out in front of the Pratt House from David Rockefeller, the Dean of the CFR, the exact quote And I got this from the book.
		I'm reading out of the John Birch Society magazine, The New American.
		This is the exact quote from David Rockefeller.
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		Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as, quote,
		and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure one world if you will if that's the charge I stand guilty and I'm proud of it now how that this is the kind of stuff that is the John Birch Society has in spades so if you want to learn about the new world order you want to understand
		Hardcore, what it's all about, in a historical perspective, going back to 1776.
		You know, when Adam Weishaupt founded the Illuminati.
		You'll get lost in there, because there is so much information about it, that it's not even funny.
		But I'm going to tell you something.
		If you want to learn about the New World Order, you better get up to speed pretty quick.
		Okay, because these guys have really cranked up the volume in the last few years using September 11th as an excuse.
		Okay, Kathy from Texas, thank you for that call.
		Next up we have Sean from Arizona.
		Sean, you are on the Alex Jones Show.
unidentified		Hi, I'm a member of Scholars for 9-11 and further I would like to point for the caller in Texas, you can go to www.st911.org.
		I have a paper on there.
		Which is entitled, Why the NIST Fact Sheet Just Won't Do.
		It takes a couple of the assumptions of the NIST report and shows just how big the fallacy is.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Tell people what the NIST report is because some people might not know what that is.
unidentified		The NIST was charged with doing the official investigation of 9-11 and they are the ones that are saying The buildings collapsed from fire alone.
unidentified		The fire caused the steel to fail, and the collapse was, you know, nothing but gravity bringing it down, and they say that there are no explosives in any of the buildings, including, well, they don't say anything about the World Trade Center 7 yet, but they have supposedly said that You know, they have found no evidence.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		All the hundreds of eyewitnesses are lying.
		William Rodriguez didn't feel a giant explosion under his feet when he was at sub-level one.
		Yeah, exactly.
		Felipe David didn't run into the room a few seconds later with his skin all burned off of his arms screaming, explosion, explosion, explosion.
		And Louis Cacioli, the firefighter, the brave firefighter, didn't say that there were explosions going off in the building and there weren't any explosive squibs going up the side of Building 7.
		You know, Sean, I read some of that NIST stuff and one of the things that struck me, and I'm not an engineer, I'm not a scientist, I'm not a scholar,
		But, you know, I'm looking at, if I remember, one of the essences of the, one of the several versions that they put out about why, about why Building 7 collapsed, was that, well, you see what happened is, there was debris falling from the North Tower, 300 feet away, and it somehow snuck into Building 7 below the 12th floor, and just happened to damage the, the column
		below the 12th floor which was holding up the whole building and then that kind of chain reaction itself all the way up to the top of the building so that's why you saw the top fall first and then it all just fell over that from there.
unidentified		I mean, I read that.
		Yeah, I know and that's just plain false on its face.
		You look at building 5, pictures of building 5 and it has extensive fire damage but it didn't It's steel frame still intact and it didn't collapse and it had a hundred times damage that building seven did.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well I know now that the NIST, that stands for National Institute of Standards and Technology, right?
		Yeah.
		They are now on their FAQ page on their website, I don't know, feigning or indicating or that they may be looking into the possibility of explosive charges in building number seven.
		What do you make of that?
unidentified		I think it's because of simply intense public pressure.
unidentified		Engineers have been, like myself, have been looking at this, looking at the reports, and actually looking at the raw data, and to say that their work is incompetent is being Well, Sean, you are an engineer, you say?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I am.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And you are a member of Scholars for 9-113?
unidentified		Yes, I am.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me ask you.
		You're an engineer.
		I mean, you're one of these guys that kind of knows stuff about this.
		I want to know, can you think of any scenario, other than controlled demolition, which could cause a 47-story modern steel skyscraper to collapse in under seven seconds?
unidentified		I know of absolutely none.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		How about fairy dust?
unidentified		Their explanations have to violate the laws of physics in order for them to be true.
		And when scientists go and take and test the hypothesis, and the hypothesis may be way out there, but what they do is they go and they say, OK, we think X happens.
		We go and we experiment, and we also verify with our known laws of physics to see if theory X is possible.
		And if it is not, Then you have to either throw out that theory or you have to adjust it.
		And that is something that the NIST has not done.
		Because we have shown, from many different perspectives, from an energy perspective, from a conservation of momentum perspective, and the amount of energy to pulverize all that concrete Uh, the amount of potential energy stored in the... John, John, hold that thought.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I want to hold you over until after the break.
		Hold him over.
		And, uh, we got, we got a four minute break.
		And, Sean, if you'll hang on, we'll continue this discussion on the other side.
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bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		We're back on the Alex Jones Show.
		Once again, I'm Bob Dacey, substituting for Alex Jones.
		On the other side of the break, we were talking to Sean from Arizona, who is a member of ST911.org, and I highly recommend you go to that website.
		It is extensive and it's all about intellectuals, professors, highly intelligent people trying to figure out what really happened on September 11th and their conclusions do not look favorable for the Bush administration and the globalists.
		Sean, are you familiar in your organization with all the work that Professor Jones has done on the thermite issue?
unidentified		Oh yes, I've read his paper thoroughly and I agree with its conclusions.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I have two questions about that for you, and hopefully you'll be able to answer them for me.
		Certainly.
		The thermite reaction that has been shown on television, where that yellow metal is pouring out of the tower, it's pretty convincing.
		However, is there any other type of reaction that could create that residue that they found that some other Harmless explanation as to how you can get these various chemical compounds in the residue that hardened up again after it melted?
unidentified		Well, a thermate, actually, it's a cousin of thermite, and every explosive reaction of an explosive that is powerful enough to cut through steel leaves a signature, if you will, of its final product.
unidentified		And that is What distinguishes, how you can distinguish what explosives were used.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		So you are saying that the material that Dr. Stephen Jones examined has the unique signature of thermate?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Is that what the conclusion is?
unidentified		That's what I would conclude.
		You have to, when thermate reacts, you get certain byproducts.
		You know, you get some iron.
		There's sulfur and manganese in there.
		And you have to look at, OK, if these byproducts are in there, OK, in the proper proportions, you have to see, OK, well, are there alternative sources for sulfur?
		And you can look at gypsum and stuff, and you can find out, well, that doesn't contain enough in order for it to be here in this Absolutely.
		in a eutetic mixture with the steel in order for it to have cut through that.
		Okay.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		So you've established here that the signature of thermate is on the steel that was examined.
		Absolutely.
		Now, here's the next question, and I'm going to play devil's advocate here with you.
		I have understood that Dr. Jones got his samples from 911 memorials and people that had collected stuff off of some of the rare bits of steel that were saved for 911 memorials.
		I know he's not being specific about exactly where he got it and all that because he might want some more, but can he legally prove a chain of custody of that stuff?
unidentified		I think he could.
unidentified		However, in order to say that absolutely thermate was used as a cutting charge, you can look at Section 8 of Appendix C of the FEMA report, and it shows the metal, the steel, that has undergone hot sulfur corrosion.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they call it sulfidation, I think.
unidentified		... which is a highly unusual event for a fire and they state that right there and nowhere else is that fact dealt with and you see those steel samples.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so let's clarify this to the people listening.
		The FEMA report, the early FEMA report that examined some of the steel said that they couldn't figure out how in the world the collapse and the fire could have caused sulfidation of the steel.
		It was an astounding discovery to them that they never pursued.
unidentified		That's correct.
unidentified		In fact, FEMA recommended that somebody pursue an investigation of The sulfidation of the steel, the severe oxidation and sulfidication of the steel.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I guess they didn't think Dr. Stephen Jones was going to be the one to do it, huh?
unidentified		That is correct.
		It seems that, you know, that information was just totally ignored.
		And those pieces of steel, if you were to get your hands on them and do similar testing that Dr. Jones has done, which FEMA has done, Already, from that Section 8 of the FEMA report, that points to a thermate reaction.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Sean, I'm going to let you go.
		I really appreciate that call.
		That was an excellent call.
		I wonder whether we ought to give this information to the 9-1-1 Commission.
unidentified		Maybe they could do an investigation and figure out what happened, huh?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back after the break, and we're going to continue with our favorite smoking guns of 9-1-1.
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bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Okay, this is Bob Dacey, subbing for Alex Jones.
		We're talking about the 9-1-1 smoking guns in the next segment, which is a long segment.
		We're going to go through some callers, and I want to hear some more smoking guns.
		Understand we have Don in Texas up.
		Don, are you still there?
unidentified		I dozed off while I was holding the phone.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Sorry about that, Don.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		What do you got to add to our discussion?
unidentified		Well, first of all about the smoking guns, there's a long list of things going back to, you know, the M.O.
		One of them is like, there was a guy out in East Texas, he was a redneck boozer and the IRS found out he was shooting his mouth off He hated the IRS so they gave him an assault rifle and they pretended to give him a bomb so he could go raid the IRS in Austin.
		It was a sting deal.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		So what does that have to do with September 11th?
unidentified		It's laying the groundwork to show you the way that they went about.
unidentified		Are you familiar with the little islands off the coast of Australia where they have the pharmaceutical compounds?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm not.
unidentified		Well, you might research that.
		You've heard of rohypnol?
		It's a date-rate drug.
		Yeah, well, that's just a tiny little skim of the surface of mind-controlled drugs that they can set up people like in Damascus to go out and get themselves kind of suicided by a cop.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so what you're saying is it relates to...
unidentified		Well, it does.
		The people that went... What was that name?
		The Julius Berg?
		The guy that supposedly had his head cut off?
		His head cut off, yeah.
		And he was the one that provided passports.
		He was part of the people that conveyed... He drove a van and some other vehicles to bring in.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think I remember something about that.
		Don, thank you for the call.
		I think Julius, the guy that got his head cut off, for some strange reason he had a connection with Zacharias Moussaoui.
		What are the chances of that?
		I think that's what Don was trying to say.
		Okay, we have Sean in Texas up next.
		Sean, are you there?
unidentified		Yeah, my smoking gun is the Secret Service stand down when Bush was at his A highly publicized event at the school in Florida that morning.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Tell us about that, Sean, because that was one of my favorites no one has brought up yet.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead and tell us about that.
unidentified		Well, it was a highly publicized press conference and he knew of the first tower being hit before he went in to the school children.
unidentified		He continued with the press conference.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, it wasn't just a press conference, it was him sitting there in a classroom reading a book about goats to a bunch of little kids, right?
unidentified		Right, my pet goat.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so the question, and that is an excellent, excellent point.
		Thank you for the call.
		The question that Sean has raised here, and this is very important, this is very important.
		They're crazy Arabs are hijacking airplanes and Lord only knows how many all over the country and they're crashing them into buildings and President Bush's appearance at this elementary school has been publicized in advance and it's four miles away from an airport and oh all pandemonium is raining and nobody knows what the heck is going on and the evil Arabs are going to get us and what is this the role of the Secret Service?
		The role of the Secret Service is to protect the President.
		Okay, so why, when the crazy Arabs were doing their thing, and they hit the first tower, and then they hit the second tower, why did the Secret Service do absolutely nothing to protect the President?
		Nothing!
		They let him sit there forever, reading the goat story to the little children.
		Those, for all they knew, the crazy Libyans were coming in a van, like in that movie from back in the 80's.
		Back to the future.
		To kill him.
		But for all they knew, they were flying a plane right at that school.
unidentified		You know?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		They didn't do anything.
		And ladies and gentlemen, that's what you call the dog that didn't bark.
		Because he knew the burglar who broke into the house wasn't a stranger.
		That is a tremendous smoking gun of 9-1-1.
		And I thank Sean from Texas for bringing that up.
		Next we have George in Indiana.
unidentified		George, welcome to the Alex Jones Show.
		I've got the flu, so I hope you can understand me.
		But let me tell you what is a real smoking gun to me.
		If I was a detective and O.J.
		Simpson told me that he knew who killed his wife because he saw it on television.
		Bush could not have seen that plane hit that first building.
		And he builds a big story around it.
		How he was sitting outside, and obviously the TV was on.
		Who makes a statement like that?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, that could be a smoking gun.
unidentified		That really could be, but you... He repeated it twice!
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
		He did say that twice.
		But you have to factor in the idiot factor there, too.
unidentified		What?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		The idiot factor.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I don't get confused when you make up a story.
unidentified		Guess where I was when the first plane hit the building?
		I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in.
		And he can't confuse it with the second plane because we've seen the Security come in and tell him the second plane hit, so he made up a lie.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, I tell you what, I think you're right there, but I believe that the problem there is the trained monkey couldn't handle his role, basically.
		That's what I think.
		George, thank you for the call.
		I think that's a good point.
		That does stink to high heaven.
		Next we have Wolfgang in Kansas City.
		Wolfgang, you're on the Alex Jones Show.
unidentified		Hi, Bob.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		How you doing?
unidentified		Real good.
unidentified		I was listening to Alex up there in New York at the Pratt House and one of the things that struck me was him saying we should go arrest these perpetrators.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I totally agree.
unidentified		Well, how are we going to do that?
unidentified		Is there a national plan for that?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You call up Alberto Gonzalez and you say, Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, here's the proof.
		Here's the investigation.
		I want you to go arrest these people.
unidentified		Okay.
		And what if he doesn't move?
		Then what?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		Then I guess we do it at the state level.
		I think they're trying to get, what's his name, Eliot Spitzer, Attorney General of the State of New York, where all the murders happened, to do something.
unidentified		Are we going to need a mutiny in the military backed up by the national militia to go accomplish this task?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		That's beyond my pay grade, I'll tell you what.
		I don't know.
		That's a good question.
		I would love to have some high level member of this group find a conscience and rat out the rest of them.
unidentified		I'd like to hear what the other listeners would like to say about that, a mutiny in the military.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		I'm not advocating one.
unidentified		This is hypothetical, but do you think that would work?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to comment on that one.
		That's treading on ground I don't want to stomp on because I might get stomped on myself.
		Wolfgang, thank you for the call.
		I appreciate that.
		Yeah, that is a big question.
		You know, what do you do about this?
		Um, what do you do about this?
		When the, uh, I remember when, um, uh, what was it?
		Juanita Broderick was, had accused Bill Clinton of, of raping her when he was the attorney general of Arkansas, you know, and she's like, well, who's she going to turn to, to accuse the, the chief law enforcement officer of Arkansas of rape.
		What's that going to get her?
		Remember that this could be a very similar scenario.
		And I wish I had a real good answer for that one, but I don't.
		Dennis from Maryland, you're next up here on the Alex Jones Show.
		What do you have to say?
unidentified		Thank you.
		Thank you, Bob.
		I just wanted to hit on another smoking gun that I believe goes to the core of this whole thing.
		This goes back to John DeCamp and the Franklin cover-up.
		It goes right through the Clinton administration.
		A lot of people may not know, I live here south of Washington, D.C.
		And the Clinton administration, guess who showed up in town and threatened everybody at the congressional level that they impeach Clinton, that he's going to expose them.
		That was Larry Flint.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, I remember Larry Flint became a good guy, right?
unidentified		He was up there.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		With friends like that, who needs enemies?
unidentified		Well exactly, but what did he have?
		You know, if people will go to Google Video and download the movie, which is a British documentary, called Conspiracy of Silence.
		And in the end of that movie, they reference the fact that I think our representatives paid about a half a million dollars to the producers not to show this film.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I've seen that film.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And basically I think what you're saying, if I may put words in your mouth, is that a lot of the people in our government are a bunch of sick perverts and they don't want that out.
unidentified		Well, unfortunately that's the case.
		You know, back in the late 80s, there was two good street cops down in Florida who found these two men with these six children.
		Found and traced it all the way up to what's called the Finders Club here in Washington, D.C.
		The District Police secured the area, then the national feds came in, took it over for national security, and the whole investigation was stopped.
		They found video equipment, pornography of children, Etcetera.
		And I think, uh, I didn't see it, but I believe Oprah Winfrey recently had someone on as a guest that exposed that there was about a dozen pedophile houses all within so many miles of the White House.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're getting into an area, Dennis, which is well-researched, but how can I say this politely?
		The topic is not suitable for a G-rated radio talk show because of what you're talking about.
		And you know what I'm talking about, and I know what I'm talking about, and a lot of the listeners know what I'm talking about.
		But basically, I think what you're saying is don't be surprised that September 11th happened because these people are a bunch of sickos.
		So Dennis, thank you for the call.
		I appreciate it.
		Guys, who do we have up next?
		Okay, Ryan in New Jersey.
		You're on the Alex Jones Show with the substitute host Bob Dacey.
		What can we do for you today?
		You got a smoking gun you want to reveal?
unidentified		Yeah, I have a smoking gun that I have on my mind.
		And also I was in New York yesterday behind Alex Jones and all the other 9-11 truth people.
		And that was really invigorating to be able to be there with all those like-minded people standing up for the truth.
		And like Alex said the other day, the police were actually escorting us down the road, letting us chant and yell as loud as we want.
		It was quite exciting.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		So the police weren't giving you a hassle?
unidentified		And there are some bad looks and stuff like that, but overall, every step of the way they were right there with us making sure.
unidentified		They even stopped some people from heckling us from time to time.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, so what Alex was saying yesterday, you're corroborating the idea of what Alex was reporting there.
unidentified		Yeah, obviously we can't say that all the time.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		The majority of the police seem to know what's going on.
		I'd like to repeat that.
		If there are any policemen listening anywhere in the United States or all over the world, if you look into this and you be dispassionate about it and really do the study and you realize that September 11th was an inside job, I know policemen are a very tight, tight group of people and they have a camaraderie and a brotherhood and I just wonder
		What do you think if you found out that 9-1-1 was an inside job and the powers that be have murdered your comrades?
		I imagine that you really wouldn't like that too much if they took the time to study it.
unidentified		By the end of the day, they actually let us march right into Police Plaza in downtown Manhattan.
		That's kind of basically what all the speakers were saying about how, you know, we're your brothers.
		We're trying to find the people that hurt you too.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll tell you what, that is excellent news and I appreciate your contribution to the show and we'll let you go.
		Up next I have Paul from England.
		All the way from England.
		Paul, you're on the Alex Jones Show.
unidentified		Oh yeah, thanks Bob for taking my call.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You must be from England, I hear that accent.
unidentified		I have called before and spoken to Alex on one occasion.
		You were asking about smoking guns and one of the things that sort of recently I've remembered is when I was at school I was a kid and you can always tell when children are lying.
		I know where this is going, go ahead.
		Right, and one of my teachers at school You know, she had a saying, and it was, uh, what a tangled web we weave when we start to deceive.
		And recently, this saying has kind of come back to me.
		And, uh, I was watching a documentary or a news program broadcast on CBC, in the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, and they had Lee Hamilton, who was the co-chair of the commission.
		You know, he's a 31-year veteran of Congress,
		has sat on many commissions including the Iran-Contra Commission and he actually said to the interviewer on CBC that the 9-11 Commission report was a first draft and that were the words that he said and I was just astounded to hear those words because really the people who lost loved ones and the people who are suffering now from diseases through inhaled dust, toxic dust
		They don't really want a first draft.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		They've disbanded the commission.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		How can it be a first draft?
unidentified		Absolutely.
		This is it.
		It's astounded.
		Who's working on the final draft?
		Nobody.
		This guy is actually on the record now saying, well, you know, it's a first draft and there's lots of questions that haven't been answered.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know from my own experience, when I was talking to Governor Keene a couple of months ago, when I was saying that the testimony of FBI agent Robert Wright wasn't included in his report, he said, well, it might have been.
		It might have been.
		And I'm thinking, well, gee, I've got the report.
		It's not in mine.
		So maybe there is another one, you know?
unidentified		I mean, the thing is... A secret one.
		Yeah, well, basically what happened was they published this report.
		And a lot of the stuff that's in the report, in the commission report, they don't actually even know what's in the book they've published.
		And now, you know, the most important person or one of the most important persons in this commission has said, well, it's just a first draft.
		I mean, that's not really an off-the-cuff remark.
		That's not really a throwaway comment to people who've lost loved ones and wars that have been conducted.
		This investigation is flawed.
		I mean, it's flawed if the chairman turns around and says, well, it's only a first draft.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's more than flawed.
		It's a deliberate, blatant cover-up.
		And you know, when you're talking about the subject of crime, um, I'm not a lawyer, but I think if you are tasked with investigating the cause of a crime, and instead you actively cover up the crime, I think you're guilty of something.
		I don't know what it is.
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, it's collusion.
unidentified		Yeah.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You're guilty of something.
		I'm not a lawyer.
		I don't know what you're guilty of, but I bet you can serve a lot of time in jail for it.
		What do you bet?
unidentified		Yeah, you can serve a lot of time in jail, but the depressing thing sometimes, you know, watching all this unfold as we are, you know, it's just, you just think these people are going to get away with this.
		And unless we get proof candidates, I think elected, People like Bob Bowman, I know he's standing in Florida, but unless these guys get elected in America, I don't think this is ever going to really... anyone's going to get in trouble, anyone's going to get impeached, or anyone's going to get prosecuted.
		Certainly in the UK, nothing's going to happen.
		You know, the population here, I think, is just generally sleepwalking.
		Obviously there's some good people here who are trying to get the truth out.
		The government of the UK certainly isn't going to pressure the US.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you guys are living in the movie V and we're not there yet.
		Thank you for the call, Paul from England.
		After the break we're going to finish this up.
		The third segment of the show is going to be about the North American Union and we're pretty much done with 9-1-1.
		I've got a clip I want to play when we get back.
		This is Bob Dacey for Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
unidentified		The GCN Radio Network.
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		We're going to close out this segment on the smoking guns of 9-1-1 by playing a clip from the movie V.
		Set in future England where the terrorist V is trying to overthrow the evil despotic totalitarian government in England and he takes over the television station and he plays a message to the people of England and you want to talk about a message that fits for the people of America?
		We're not there yet but if we don't fight these people we're going to be.
		So we're going to play a little clip from the movie V. Good evening, la-la-la.
unidentified		Allow me first to apologize for this emergency channel.
		I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of the everyday routine, the security of the familiar, the tranquility, the repentance.
		I enjoy them as much as any bloke.
		But in the spirit of commemoration, whereby those important events of the past Usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle.
		A celebration with a nice holiday.
		I thought we could mark this November the 5th a day that's sadly no longer remembered by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat.
		There are of course those who do not want us to speak.
		Let me think, just let me think.
		In fact even now orders are being shouted into telephones and men with guns will still be on their way.
		Chancellor Fletcher.
		Why?
		Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.
		Words are for the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth.
		And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there?
		You designed it, sir!
		You wanted it foolproof!
		You taught me every television in London!
		Cruelty and injustice.
		Intolerance and oppression.
		And where once you had the freedom to object, Cameras.
		think and speak as you saw fit.
		You now have sensors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and suggesting your submission.
		Canris, canris.
		How did this happen?
		Who's to blame?
		Well, certainly there are those who are more responsible than others.
		They will be held accountable.
		But again, truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.
		I know why you did it.
		I know you were afraid.
		Who wouldn't be?
		War, terror, disease.
		There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense.
		Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now High Chancellor Adam Sutler.
		He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent.
		Inspector, you're almost through.
		Last night I sought to end that silence.
		Last night I destroyed the Old Bailey to remind this country of what it has forgotten.
		More than 400 years ago, a great citizen wished to embed the 5th of November forever in our memory.
		His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words.
		They are perspectives.
		So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest that you allow the 5th of November to pass unmarked.
		But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament.
		And together, we shall give them a 5th of November that shall never, ever be forgotten.
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unidentified		Big Brother. Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back for the third hour of the Alex Jones Show on GCN.
		My name is Bob Dacey.
		I'm a local radio TV talk show host in Austin.
		I've known Alex for many years.
		I host a show called The Simple Truth.
		And it's a one hour political talk show and gee, I do most of the talking.
		And I've enjoyed doing that for many years and I intend to keep on doing it.
		You have feel compelled to spread the word about the New World Order and the globalists and the fact that they're trying to destroy the United States of America.
		I mean, that's the bottom line.
		And we gotta stop them.
		And the only way we stop them is to wake you people up.
		And I know that it's getting easier and easier and easier to wake people up as the New World Order crowd gets more brazen in what they do.
		This next hour we're going to shift gears completely.
		We're going to get away from September 11th for a while.
		And we're going to concentrate on other little nasty things that the globalists are up to as they try to destroy our country.
		And the particular thing we're going to be talking about this next hour is the North American Union.
		The North American Union is a smaller step to the American Union where they're trying to merge the entire western hemisphere into one big happy little socialist communist country.
		If you want to get involved in this segment of our show, the number to call in is 1-800-259-9231.
		That's 1-800-259-9231.
		If you want to weigh in on this American Union, which our CFR friends are cooking up for us right now, even as we speak.
		If you want to weigh in on this American Union, which our CFR friends are cooking up for us right now, even as we speak, the North American even as we speak, the North American Union plan is coming into fruition.
		And I have a caller that's just called in, a really good friend of mine, Kelly Taylor, who is an expert on the North American Union.
		Kelly, are you there?
unidentified		I am.
unidentified		Thank you for taking my call today.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Kelly is a dear friend of mine.
		She is also one of the producers of the Simple Truth TV show.
		I have to be nice to her because she's the one who can yank my microphone down while I'm on TV if I get a little rowdy and out of control.
		We joke about that.
		I'm always telling her that I've got the conch.
		But she's got the microphone for the conch, so I've got to be nice to her.
		Kelly, you wrote an article recently in the New American Magazine about the NAFTA superhighway, which is a nice little road that they're going to be building.
		Can you tell us about your article and how it relates to the eventual merger of Canada, the United States, and Mexico into one happy little country?
unidentified		I can say a few things about that, and we might add that to your horn, Bob, that you wrote a similar article a year or so ago in the New American, and we'll also be having another one published on the same subject in an upcoming issue.
unidentified		So there's no dearth of quality information out there for the listeners.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And that's all in the New American.
		And by the way, before you start, Kelly, I want to announce to the people listening that In the second half of this hour, we have scheduled to come on John McManus, the president of the John Birch Society and the publisher of the New American Magazine.
		So you definitely want to stay tuned for that.
unidentified		So Kelly, let's talk about your article.
		What's with this road you're talking about?
		Well, I don't know how much you've covered.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I haven't covered anything about it at all.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You're first up.
unidentified		Security and Prosperity Partnership Agreement, which the current administration entered into a year ago with Mexico and Canada, brought about the situation that is currently happening in Europe.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Kelly, let's hold you over to the break.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back in three minutes with Kelly Taylor.
unidentified		It's here!
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bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Okay, it's Bob Dacey, back On the Alex Jones Show, he may be the T-Rex of political talk, but I'm the Velociraptor.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I was talking to Kelly Taylor here, who wrote an article for the New American about the Napa Superhighway, and before the break interrupted us, Kelly, you were going to tell us about this road.
unidentified		Well, Bob, I know a lot of Alex's listeners are very educated people about all these issues, but I'm going to assume there's somebody out there who doesn't know anything and kind of gives some elementary information.
		Go ahead.
		The NAFTA Superhighway is actually a complex conglomeration of roads and construction projects that stretches from Mexico to Canada.
		And all it's about is facilitating the merger of Canada, Mexico, and the United States into a European Union-like alliance.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You mean to tell me that Rick Perry didn't think up this?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		He said he did.
unidentified		Rick Perry did not think it up.
		But he said he did.
		I know.
		Isn't that awful?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		But you mean the Governor of Texas is lying to us?
unidentified		Well, it looks that way, doesn't it?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		He said he thought up the Trans-Texas Corridor.
		I heard him.
		I saw it in the paper.
unidentified		Well, what do you think?
unidentified		What do you know?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I guess he must be lying to us then.
unidentified		It appears that way, doesn't it?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so this is, this is, this is to merge, this is a giant, how big is this thing?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Is this like one road or what?
unidentified		Well, um, no, no it's not.
		Across the country there are 80, Bob, 8-0.
		Corridors that are designated as high priority.
		Now that intimates to me that there might be additional corridors that are not yet high priority.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, designated by who?
unidentified		Congress!
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the Congress!
unidentified		So, you know, and these corridors are not a simple highway.
		They're, um, multimodal byways, which means that they, these highways and
		Lanes that are dedicated for cargo and freight and rail lines, depots, gas and oil and water pipelines and electronic transmission cable routes all run parallel together from what it looks like to us the west coast of Mexico all the way to Canada for the purpose of facilitating a speedier transport of people and goods across the three countries.
		As we are now seeing people in Europe are highly upset that the European Union has turned into what it did because they are now unhappy with it.
		They were tricked into this whole European Union and it looks to me like that's exactly what is being attempted here and this highway corridor is Well now, wait a minute.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about Europeans, and I think we have established very clearly that certain European companies are going to be involved in building this thing.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that correct?
unidentified		Well, and then there's that, yes.
		The Spanish company, Centra, has been Entered into, with a consortium of American companies, Zachry being the main one we know about, so it's Zachry Centra, has been awarded the contract for constructing at least the Texas portion of this corridor.
		Which happens to be the most critical one at the moment because we're on the front line.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And that is extremely key.
unidentified		Very.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Because when you have an evil, disgusting, vile snake of a road that's going to run from southwestern Mexico all the way up into Canada, in order for the snake to survive, all sections of the snake must be connected.
unidentified		Right.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And it just so happens that Texas is kind of in the middle there.
		And for those of you who are unaware, the State Highway 130, which is being constructed right now east of Austin, is the first section of the snake that's actually under construction.
		It's the toll road number 130.
		And of course, they were building that without public input.
		They said they didn't want any toll roads around here, but they don't care.
		So what you have is sections.
		You have the Toll Road 130 east of Austin, which is a chunk of the Trans-Texas Corridor, which runs through Texas.
		And that is a chunk of the NAFTA Superhighway, which is going down to Mexico and up into Canada.
		So what's important here is to attack the snake everywhere.
		Because if you cut it up anywhere, it doesn't work, right?
unidentified		Well, yeah.
		You could use that analogy pretty accurately, I think.
		It's my opinion, and I believe yours too, we pretty much think alike on these things that while you can't cut up any piece of it and kill the whole thing, the critical part is what is happening in Texas with the Trans-Texas Corridor section of it.
		Because we believe, you know, it's the first of the sections to be Well, you don't just have to believe it.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we have, you know, we're pretending like we're ignorant here.
		We have researched this topic up one side and down the other.
		And if you look at the state legislature and the chairman of the House Transportation Committee in Texas, Mike Kruse, and all the writings he's done and all the reports he's published, He is absolutely salivating to get at this federal money to build this thing through Texas.
		I mean, it's a federal program.
		It always has been.
		It's an international program.
		It always has been.
		And the tactic that they've used to con everybody into not paying attention to this is telling everybody each individual section of this thing is a local matter.
unidentified		Oh, and it's clearly not.
		I'm so glad you brought that up because, you know, we've struggled in Central Texas to get anybody else to pay attention to it.
		When the truth is, however goes the Trans-Texas Corridor part of the monster, so goes the rest of the country.
		So what happens here is important.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, because if we can stop the Trans-Texas Corridor in Texas, well then they're going to have a major problem getting it going
		anywhere else and I would like to point out the the overreaching financial reason for this thing is that the communist Chinese are trying to avoid the longshoremen and the teamsters the most expensive part of the journey for the slave goods from China to come to America is once it hits American ports so the solution that they've come up with is to avoid the American ports
		The Communist Chinese Company, H.P.H.
		Hutchinson Port Holdings, has control of two ports in southwestern Mexico, Lazaro Cardenas and Manzanilla.
		We are supposed to build that highway down to there.
		And that way, the Communist Chinese can get their slave goods to Mexico, let Mexican truck drivers get a hold of them, drive it up through Mexico, through Texas, through the Trans-Texas Corridor, up to, I believe Kansas City, which is supposed to be a Mexican Customs Port.
unidentified		Right?
unidentified		That's right, Bob.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I mean, are we living in the Twilight Zone here, or what?
unidentified		And to pour salt in the wound, There's legislation in place to allow for U.S.
unidentified		taxpayer dollars to build the road in Mexico.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and you know that's almost funny because our own United States Senator Don Cornyn, who is not in the Council on Foreign Relations yet, I think he's applying for membership.
unidentified		He is all about open borders though.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he introduced a bill I think in June to fund a North American Development Fund because the poor Mexicans don't have enough money to build their portion of the Communist Chinese Road.
unidentified		Oh rats!
unidentified		Poor thing!
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Oh darn!
		So, you know, we're talking about this snake here and how if the tale of the snake starts at the two ports in Mexico and the poor Mexicans can't build their portion of the Trans-Texas Corridor then our own traitorous Senator John Cornyn He promotes a bill to make us pay for the Mexican portion of the Trans-Texas Corridor.
		And I have the question, how in the world does that not affect United States sovereignty?
		When you have United States Senators wanting taxpayer money to build a road in somebody else's country.
unidentified		Which is a good segue for this point.
		How in the world does that not affect U.S.
		sovereignty is a good question.
		The next point being, you know, once we've entered into this North American Union business, which to me is as serious a crime as the one everybody grieved over yesterday, but this one we have a chance to do something about.
		Once we've entered into this union, All protections given to American citizens by the Constitution will be gone.
		And they'll be replaced by who knows what.
		We think the U.N.
		Charter, of course.
		But that will be awful.
		You know, we're expecting to have our cake and eat it too.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		What's the matter with the U.N.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Charter, Kelly?
unidentified		Oh, Bob, your favorite.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		What's the matter with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?
		I don't want to get off on a tangent too much, but you forced me to.
		The Universal Declaration of Human Rights was a founding document of the UN in 1948.
		And they got more rights than you can say you stick at in that document.
		Tell me?
		Oh yeah, I forgot about Article 29.
unidentified		Article 29, your favorite.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Section 3, which says that your rights and freedoms under the UN system may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
		So that if you disagree with the UN, you just don't have any human rights.
		Why would anybody want to be concerned about that?
unidentified		Well, I'm certainly concerned, as are many.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I've been told that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of the U.N.
		is the next step up in human evolution over the Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution.
		You mean that's not true?
unidentified		No.
unidentified		No.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, darn.
		I'm so disappointed.
		Kelly, let's hold you over after this break.
		And we'll be back with Kelly Taylor talking about the North American Union after we sell some stuff.
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bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		We are back once again on The Alex Jones Show.
		This is Bob Dacey substituting for Alex Jones.
		We've been talking with Kelly Taylor.
		It was a writer for the New American.
		I'm kind of jealous because she does produce a TV show and everything, but she got the cover story of the New American back on August 7th with her article coming through the NAFTA Superhighway.
		I think they've got that linked on Infowars.com right now if you want to go read it.
		But again, we're talking about this NAFTA Superhighway and what it means to our national sovereignty.
		And Kelly, what are we going to do about this?
		What do you suggest we do to derail this monster?
unidentified		Well, as you know, my philosophy about any evil that our government is trying to perpetrate on us is this.
		We still have a layer of protection in our Congress, if we can make them accountable, which they should be to us.
		So the first order of business is to contact your Congressman.
		Immediately and often.
		You know, we all are doing a pretty good job of educating ourselves and others, but take the next step and make your name a household word at your congressman's office.
		And especially in Texas, because as you and I both have said, however it goes here, so goes the rest of the nation.
		Without this NAFTA superhighway, the North American Union will be dealt a serious blow.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you people have to understand the radical importance of what she just said and what we're talking about.
		This NAFTA superhighway is an infrastructure project which is necessary to link the three countries for now and later on the whole hemisphere into one country.
		They need it.
		They want it.
		They've said they have to have it in order to accomplish this American Union that they're trying to get on the way to merging the whole world into one world.
		And it's just because of where Texas is in the geography here, you know, we in Texas have a very, very unique opportunity by doing what Kelly says, calling your congressman, voting these bums out of office who won't listen to you.
		Uh, spreading the word to other people, uh, going to your local representatives and voting them out.
		I mean, we have an opportunity to destroy the North American Union because of where we're located, because we're Texans.
		And anybody in any other state where this thing rears its ugly head can do the same thing.
		You know, we're talking about how negative all this stuff is and how depressing it is that they're trying to do this, but let's look at a positive example.
		Let's look at a positive example of what happened here recently in Travis County, where Kelly's from and where I'm from, right here in Austin.
		We had a local politician who was a county commissioner, Democrat, 10-year incumbent.
		Ten year incumbent Democrat in Travis County.
		Now Travis County is Democrat.
		Period.
		They rule the place.
		This woman, her name is Karen Sunlightner.
		Ten year incumbent.
		She went against the will of the people in her district.
		They told her they didn't want any toll roads.
		She was on one of these local boards voting yay or nay on the toll roads.
		She totally ignored her constituency.
		And here a few months ago in the Democratic primary, she was blown away by an unknown challenger.
		Because she was effectively and accurately portrayed as a toll queen.
		That's what I'm talking about.
		That kind of grassroots activism can work.
		And that sent a message all across Texas.
unidentified		Oops!
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, gee, now that the Cretans are waking up to the fact that we're trying to toll them to build a North American Union, maybe it's not such a good idea to be voting for that kind of stuff.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		What do you think, Kelly?
unidentified		I think that's a good point, and I fully believe that many of the people who helped make that happen do not understand the big picture of this NAFTA superhighway and how the Trans-Texas Corridor is part of that.
		However, it matters not How we got her out?
		It doesn't matter that she's out, until she can become educated.
		And I'll add, when I was doing some research for that latest article, I called some Texas legislators to find, especially the handful who were opposed to the trans-sexes corridor, to find out why and what they knew.
		To a person, none of them understood the part that the The Texas portion played in the bigger picture.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know why that is, don't you?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		It's because not enough people are watching the Simple Truth TV show.
unidentified		Oh, absolutely.
unidentified		We know it all, don't we, Bob?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		It airs Tuesday night, tonight, by the way, at 8 o'clock on Channel 10 on Austin Time Warner Cable with the host Bob Dacey, produced by Kelly Taylor and Jeff Kantoff.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		They need to do that because if they watched the show, they would know the big picture.
unidentified		Well, maybe it's in order to To not only contact your legislator, but educate him as well.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Right, exactly.
		Well, Kelly, thank you very much.
		I'm going to let you go.
		We're going to go through the break, and after the break, John McManus with the John and Birch Society is scheduled to be up.
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bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we're coming down to the last 30 minutes of the show today.
		Again, my name is Bob Dacey.
		I am substituting for Alex Jones because he's up in New York.
		I think he's over there bullhorning the Council on Foreign Relations this morning.
		Once again, if you want to learn more about everything that's going on, there are various websites to go to.
		Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com, PrisonPlanet.tv, JonesReport.com.
		And of course, my addition to that, JBS.org.
		And speaking of JBS.org, that's John Birch Society's main website.
		We have a guest on with us, the president of the John Birch Society, Mr. John McManus, and we're going to be talking to him about this North American Union.
		Mr. McManus, welcome to the Alex Jones Show!
unidentified		Thank you very much.
unidentified		Good to be with you.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I'm certainly glad we were able to get you on today.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I know you were on the Alex Jones Show back in April due in large part to the efforts of Kelly Taylor.
unidentified		Was it April?
unidentified		It's all a blur to me.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I think it was.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You were in town giving a presentation which was very well attended.
unidentified		Yes, it was.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I was very gratified by that.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I wanted to get the take of the John Birch Society on this North American Union and what you think we can do about it.
unidentified		Well, where do we start?
unidentified		Have you already done a lot of preliminaries?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've done some preliminary.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		People know, we've been discussing primarily, I had Kelly Taylor on just before you came on, and we were discussing this, the infrastructure part of it, the NAFTA superhighway.
unidentified		Yes, this NAFTA superhighway is part of it, certainly.
		Well, very briefly, the Birch Society has been combating this kind of thing for a long, long time, and we now see that President Bush and the leaders of Mexico and Canada started this Security and Prosperity Partnership there in Waco in March of 2005 and of course security, prosperity and partnership sounds really nice, doesn't it?
		All of that?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Sounds wonderful to me.
		Tell me more about it.
		I'm all excited already.
		Tell me more.
		Tell me more about this.
unidentified		Well, when you find out, when you find out that its purpose is to abolish the borders and to lead us into a regional government called the North American Union, where our country's independence will be sacrificed, Then it doesn't become as appealing as what it originally sounded to be.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, I recommend to anyone who doubts what Mr. McManus says is just go to SPP.gov.
unidentified		If you go to SPP.gov you will find out that all they're doing is having a little confab and they're just talking about this and that.
unidentified		They don't really make the admissions about what is really behind it and you can find out what's really behind it When you find out who's behind it, you find out a man named Robert Pastor, for instance.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so we're talking about building a North American community.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Now that's where we gotta go, because these are the guys that are barking the orders, right?
unidentified		That's correct.
unidentified		All of this comes out of the Council on Foreign Relations, and especially out of this fellow Robert Pastor.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, tell us about building a North American community and Robert Pastor.
unidentified		Well, Robert Pastor is an outspoken leftist.
		He's been a member of the Institute for Policy Studies He was involved in granting our Panama Canal, giving it away, and essentially giving it away to China.
		He's been involved in all kinds of leftist activities all his life, and now he's behind this building of the North American Union.
		I came across a speech that he gave in 2002 up in Canada, and he was speaking to the Trilateral Commission, which of course is a partner of the Council on Foreign Relations.
		And there he's talking about the promise of a North American community cannot be realized until the income gap between Mexico and its northern neighbors is reduced.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Why does that sound strangely like one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto?
unidentified		That's right.
		Well, you know, see these people not only want to merge our three nations, Mexico, Canada, and the United States, they want to bring Mexico into a economic level that's Equal to what we have here in our country and in Canada.
		And of course, in order to do that, you can't just build Mexico up.
		You've got to tear the other two down.
		And that's part of what this is all about.
		Huge amounts of foreign aid are scheduled to be sent to Mexico.
		Continuation of sending jobs overseas and over into Mexico.
		And a lot of Mexican truck drivers, too.
		Yeah, destroying the American middle class.
		So, this is what this fellow is in favor of, and he said this back as far as 2002, and he's behind this North American Union presentation.
		He's written a book, a booklet called Building the North American Union, published by the Council on Foreign Relations.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And don't forget, he is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
unidentified		Oh, not only a member, he's a guru with them.
unidentified		He's one of their biggies, I guess you could say.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm looking at the document, Building a North American Community, which all you've got to do is Google it and you'll find it.
		And they discuss having to intensify Mexican efforts to accelerate their economic development.
		And part of that is to establish a North American Investment Fund for infrastructure and human capital.
		And it says that this money is going to have to come from the United States and Canada.
unidentified		That's taxpayers.
unidentified		That's you and me and your listeners.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Let me go into another aspect of this thing.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Go right ahead.
unidentified		You've been talking about the Trans-Texas Highway, the NAFTA Superhighway, a lot of different names for it.
		Part of the plan here is the tremendous amount of shipping that's coming over from Asia, mostly from China, obviously.
		It goes into Los Angeles and Long Beach, California, but they're now planning To have those ships go to Mexico's west coast ports, one of them called Lazaro Cardenas, and then have Mexican trucks and Mexican rail bring it up to the U.S.
		border.
		Trucks to go through the U.S.
		border, not to be even touched until they get to Kansas City, where a facility is being set up that is supposed to be Mexican Sovereign Territory.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and you know, the thing about that, Mr. McManus, that is, you tell people that, and they're going, you have got to be kidding.
unidentified		You have got to be kidding.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And the people that say that, they are unaware, really, of what they're dealing with, with the government of Mexico.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Mexico, I have said this many times, Mexico is a crookocracy.
unidentified		A crookocracy.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		A crookocracy.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You don't get anything in Mexico unless you slip somebody some money.
unidentified		Well, what's also interesting about Mexico is there's no middle class.
		You have a very small, wealthy elite, and you have the rest of the people who are poor.
		And I understand from some of the... Half of them want to come to America.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Some of the research that Jerome Corsi has done, he's a mainstream journalist who writes for Human Events, and he's written for WorldNetDaily, Some people, they're talking about these Mexican truck drivers coming up here in these ramshackle trucks and in order to drive the long hours that they force them to drive, they're all hooked on cocaine.
unidentified		Well, the whole thing, an awful lot of the people coming across the Mexican border are not simply people looking for a decent job.
		There are drug smugglers, there are gang leaders, there are The prisons are filled with these people and of course there are thousands of them that are under arrest but have fled, or supposed to be under arrest, but have fled back to Mexico and Mexico won't extradite.
		The whole problem is an incredible story and as you've said, you start telling this to people and they say, no, this can't be.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		We're talking with John McManus, the president of the John Birch Society, and Mr. McManus, Why in the world?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I mean, isn't one of the few and defined powers of the federal government to protect our borders?
unidentified		Well, no, it's more than a defined power.
		It's a mandate.
		The Constitution of the United States says in Article 4, Section 4, that It is a responsibility of the federal government to protect the state against invasion.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Then why aren't they doing it?
unidentified		They're not doing it because they don't intend to do it.
		They don't want to do it.
		Mr. Bush can go on and make a speech on May 15th of this year, talking about what he's going to do about protecting the borders, and he's going to put infrared sensors, and he's going to have unmanned aircraft, and all kinds of stuff, and he's going to build a new fence and everything else.
		It was one of the worst lies ever to come out of a president's mouth in the history of our country.
		The man is already committed to abolishing the borders, not beefing up the borders.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I heard that they were going to send 6,000 National Guard troops down there to hold up... No, they haven't.
unidentified		They haven't sent 6,000 Guard.
unidentified		They have sent some, and the 6,000 that they were supposed to send, even those, were not going to be guarding the border.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I thought they were going to be holding up signs saying, Amnesty This Way.
unidentified		No, well, that's kind of a sick joke.
unidentified		Even the ones that are down there, the Border Patrol is not being relieved except that these National Guard people are doing jobs that they might do Repairing their trucks or fueling their vehicles.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they have no power of arrest or detaining these people.
unidentified		They're not on the border.
		That's the point.
		They're not on the border.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		So it's nothing but a carnival to convince the people that they're doing something when they have no intention of doing anything.
unidentified		That's right.
		You know, we have a 2,000 mile border, southern border with Mexico.
		And the New York City Police Department, you can just figure the amount of area that that is.
		They have two-and-a-half times the number of people that are in the entire Border Patrol.
		New York City Police Department is two-and-a-half times numerically larger than the United States Border Patrol that covers a border with both Mexico and Canada.
		Isn't that incredible?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, do the numbers there, do the math.
		You know, I am I'm totally aware of what's going on, obviously.
		Ron Paul has written an article called, The North American United Nations, where he spells all this out.
		You've got to ask yourself, if you're just a regular American, how in the world can the President of the United States, who's taken an oath as a conditioned precedent to him taking office, he's got to put his hand on a Bible and swear to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
		How can he then, after having sworn that oath, Just leave our borders wide open, and then not only just leave them wide open, but actually engage in a plan to bypass the Congress, and that's a key point, bypass the Congress to merge the United States with Canada and Mexico.
		What is the word that you described that describes that activity?
unidentified		Well, treason has to be used.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, that's what it is.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Does that word have any meaning anymore?
unidentified		Well, you know, this isn't the only thing that's The only violation of the Constitution.
		I mean, here we are in our fourth war, undeclared war.
		Congress alone has authority in the Constitution to get the nation into war.
		Didn't do it in Korea, didn't do it in Vietnam, didn't do it in Desert Storm, and we didn't do it again in this latest war against Iraq.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And think about the consequences of ignoring the Constitution.
unidentified		Well, the consequences are we don't win the wars.
		That's one consequence.
		But the second consequence is that actually what's happening is our nation is being delivered to the United Nations.
		The United Nations is not taking over America.
		Our country is being delivered.
		One day after this war in Iraq started, our ambassador to the UN at the time was John Negroponte.
		He brought a letter to the Security Council and the letter said, here are the Security Council resolutions that authorized the US action of going into Iraq.
		They went to the United Nations for authorization, as they did in Desert Storm, As they did behind the scenes by going to SEATO, Southeast Asia Treaty Organization, a UN regional grouping, to go to Vietnam.
		And of course the UN in Korea wasn't hidden.
		There were UN flags flying there.
		So the UN has, we are delivering our military, we're delivering our entire country.
		And as you've mentioned here, Ron Paul has pointed out that this North American Union business is eventually going to Empower the United Nations, even more so.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You know, you sent me to, or the New Americans sent me to Waco earlier this year, or I guess it was late last year, to cover the follow-up meeting for the Security and Prosperity Partnership.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You know, it was a free trade in the Americas Conference at Baylor.
unidentified		Yes.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		And you sent me there.
		And I was sitting there having dinner at the big grand hall at Baylor University with all the, you know, the little eight people to a table, you know, servers running around all over the place, real fancy, fancy situation.
		And the keynote speaker was the former head of the World Trade Organization and the current head of the United Nations Trade and Development Council, a fellow by the name of Supachai Panichpakti.
		And yeah, isn't that a mouthful?
unidentified		Sounds like Thailand.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's where he's from.
		And he's a communist.
		He's a devout, admitted communist.
		Okay?
		He just plain flat is.
		And he was the keynote speaker.
		And I was about 20 feet away from him with my tape recorder running when he said that you have to have an infrastructure in order for a trade area to work.
		And he talked about projects in Southeast Asia where they were building these giant infrastructure projects to link the various areas so that they could all trade with each other.
		And you know, immediately I'm sitting here thinking you're sitting a few miles away from the Trans-Texas Corridor saying that in order to merge an area you have to have infrastructure.
		And there it was right out of his mouth.
		And the other telling thing that he said was they had a press conference there at Baylor And, uh, there was nobody that attended the press conference except me.
		You know, and some reporter from the Houston Chronicle.
		And I asked him if the Constitution of the United States of America is going to be in the way of his free trade area of the Americas.
		Uh, because of the trade aspects of it, because, you know, the Constitution says Congress regulates foreign trade.
		And he looked at me and he said, no, it's not going to be in the way.
		After he rambled a big long answer, he said it wasn't going to be in the way.
		You know, I guess I wasn't fully aware of what he meant.
		They were going to sidestep the Congress.
		They're just going to ignore it.
		You know, it's kind of like in Blazing Saddles, you know, we don't need no stinking Congress.
		And what is that?
unidentified		They ignore all aspects of the Constitution.
		The Constitution's first sentence is very important.
		It says, all All legislative powers herein granted are vested in Congress.
		But the American people have been persuaded that a Supreme Court decision is the law of the land.
		If all legislative power is in Congress, then it can't be in the Supreme Court.
		So if the Supreme Court decision is the law of the case, then you have executive orders.
		You have the executive branch signing an executive order, and that becomes the law of the land, and that's a violation of the Constitution.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You must be a strict constructionist of the Constitution, Mr. McMann.
unidentified		No, I know how to read.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		In order to believe that it says what it says.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I mean, come on!
unidentified		I know how to read!
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Don't you know that there's penumbras and mists and emanations that come out of the Constitution that you can read into, if you want to?
unidentified		You know, the word penumbra is known to people who know that that was the word they used for Roe v. Wade.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		How many people know that the word penumbra was used to start the social security system as well back in the 30's?
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's part of the reading of the tea leaves of the Constitution.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		The word penumbra is not in the Constitution by the way.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to actually follow the rule book if you want to get rid of the country.
		Right.
		We're talking with John McManus, President of the John Birch Society.
		We're up against a break and after this break we're going to come back and we'll be back at it.
unidentified		Alex Jones, those on GCN.
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bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		All right, we're back on the Alex Jones Show, and we are talking with our special we're back on the Alex Jones Show, and we are talking with our special guest, the president of the John Birch And we're talking, I want to ask you Mr. McManus about the latest goings on at the Birch Society.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I understand that the website www.jbs.org has undergone extensive change and I'd like for you to inform us about that if you would.
unidentified		It has.
		It's been updated.
		It's been brought into the 21st century and it is starting to attract huge numbers of people.
		We're actually thrilled about it.
		Just in September, the numbers are triple what they were in August, and we look forward to it growing even more than that.
		What we're up to now is, what, 350,000 hits per day and growing.
		So we're very happy about that.
		But we'd like to go into the millions, and I'm glad to get on a radio show like yours.
		To be able to invite people to start looking into JBS.org.
		Every day you will see commentary on the news of the day.
		You will see an issue that is discussed, a headline given, a little background about the issue, and then commentary about it.
		I do some of these.
		William Norman Grigg does some.
		We're going to have William Jasper do some, and others.
		Just yesterday, we were talking about the Marxist candidate who wants to set up a resistance government in Mexico.
		He certainly is a Marxist.
		Representatives of 116 non-aligned nations hold anti-US summit.
		Where do you suppose they held it?
		Cuba.
		Facing possible lawsuits, CIA interrogators take out trial insurance.
		Yeah, I bet they did, right?
		The Marine Corps Chief of Intelligence concludes that in Iraq's Anbar Province, we haven't been defeated, we haven't won, we haven't lost, and we're not doing well.
		I don't know, maybe a lot of people did see that one.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a lot of people are familiar that listen to Alex Jones with whatreallyhappened.com, where they post news articles and comment on them, and basically that you've got the same format up there on the main page of jbs.org.
		And I was really impressed with it.
		Mr. McManus is right.
		They've completely revamped it.
		It's much more user-friendly.
		It's much more modern.
		It's much more visually appealing.
		And of course, the information coming from the John Birch Society, of course, their reputation is for very, very careful, careful study and accuracy.
		So you can pretty well take it to the bank.
unidentified		Take it to the bank.
		That's a good phrase.
		Right.
		Here's another one.
		Al Gore takes a slapping from an Australian politician.
		He went down there to publicize his incredibly stupid movie about global warming.
		I say incredibly stupid because that's exactly what it is.
		You know, there's a book that goes along with it.
		I've looked at the book and I just can't believe what I'm reading.
		This fellow down in Australia, an ex-vice president, No, no.
		Gore is the ex-Vice President.
		Anyhow, a fella named McFarlane, and he just went after him.
		He said, three places I do not go for advice on climate change.
		The first is you.
bob dacy ▲ ● ▼		I want to thank you very much for coming on the Alex Jones Show.
		I've been substituting for him for a while now and he's going to be back tomorrow.
		Once again, this is Bob Dacey for Alex Jones.
		The websites are www.infowars.com and www.prisonerplanet.com.
		And don't forget, go to www.jbs.org and check it out.
		It will be very important.
		Alex Jones will be back Tomorrow in the Central Texas Command Center.
		This is Bob Dacey, over and out.
		Take care.

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