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It is Friday, the 18th day of November 2005, headed into the weekend.
Then, of course, the Thanksgiving week coming up next Thursday.
Hope you spend time with your family and think about what this country is really all about.
I know that's what I'll be doing.
But obviously we'll be here Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday and then take off Thursday to be with family.
I'll even be filling in, I'm told.
I've been honored to be asked to fill in for Pastor Butch Paugh coming up next Monday on his show.
Now for the last year I've been unable to hear Pastor Butch's show here locally on the stations, There's been some lobbying, including by myself, and now we get to hear Pastor Butch on the radio again here in Austin.
Right before I went on air, he's calling me all the time.
I never have time to call him back.
I was thinking about books this morning because I was reading an email that he sent somebody else.
They forwarded me, and he was quoting Dante's Inferno about the hottest places in hell being reserved for those that know something wrong is happening, that know that innocent people are being abused, and they decide to be neutral.
Neutrality is bad, ladies and gentlemen.
Christ said that you were neither hot nor cold, so I spit you out of my mouth.
I actually respect the evil Satanists.
I don't like them.
I hate them.
I want to bring them down, but I respect them.
They know what they're doing.
They know which side they've chosen.
They've cast their lot with the old serpent.
But you've got these other people out there that know about good and evil, but they just decide to kind of namby-pamby dance around in the middle of it, thinking they're safe on the fence, thinking they're safe in the middle of the road, and that's the most dangerous place to be.
And, of course, I love from the bottom of my heart and the depths of my soul, and I admire and I am thankful for all the good people in the world that stand up for beauty and stand up for innocence and stand up for decency.
I was reading this morning how they convicted that Joseph Smith character, the famous video in Florida a few years ago where he just grabs a little, I don't know, 10-year-old girl and kidnaps her and ties her up and rapes her for four days and strangles her.
I'm sorry.
Just the level of evil that's out there.
We have to stop denying it.
We've got to face it.
It's real.
And it's growing in power.
It's spreading.
Every form of degeneracy, every form of wickedness, every form of twisted behavior is exploding right now like a wild fever running through the body politic.
It's just burning away everything good and decent and it's all under attack.
Everything good is threatened right now like never before in human history.
Evil has tools it's never dreamed of.
The mechanisms of enslavement and despotism are mighty, but at the same time, for every action there is a greater or equal reaction.
And there is a lot of resistance mounting to this.
There is just a ton of news.
I got an email here saying, Alex, I don't see the proof of the FDA testing on people.
They're approving rules for the testing on foster children, handicapped children, And, uh, S. Fieldman sent me this email saying everything Alex has ever said I've checked up and it's been backed up, but he says, I just can't find out where this is true.
Well, okay, sir, we'll go over some of that for you here today.
I mean, if you don't know that there's been chemical, biological, and radiological testing on children in America for 70 plus years, you're not looking very hard.
And this is just a codification publicly.
So we'll go back into this when we start the second segment and then... There's just so much news.
Bush's approval rating falls to even a lower level.
I mean, if he keeps falling at this rate, he'll have an approval rating of like 10 points by the middle of next year.
Seriously.
We'll be right back.
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Life is short, it is transitory, it is like the morning mist at dawn, when the first rays of the sun hit it, it disappears in seconds.
Right as you begin to grasp your life and Many cases it's over.
It's over in a flash, or it's over in excruciating pain over many months, but death will find us all.
But death of a great-grandparent or a grandparent, it's painful, it's sad, but it's part of the human condition.
It's the way we're designed.
We are equipped with The instincts to be able to deal with it, better than losing a child, a lot better than losing a brother or a sister.
People are meant to live out their life cycle, to be little babies and to be loved and then to become adolescents and be rebellious and leave the hut and go set up your own hut and start your own family.
Have your own children and then become grandparents and if you're blessed become great-grandparents and then go back into the earth, go back into dust.
But we should all appreciate life every time we see the night sky, every time we see the sunset, every time we see a happy family that's straight and strong and filled with joy.
Every time we see a flock of birds land Land and a lake.
Just all of that beauty.
All of that purity.
All of the things we see in God's creation.
All the good things.
We have to appreciate the good things so that we can stand up for them against the bad things.
We need to be able to separate the good from the bad.
And all they'll find is pain and suffering down that road.
And you will find it down that road prematurely.
Don't worry, you're going to find pain and suffering in your life.
And a lot of times you find even greater pain and suffering when you do try to avoid it.
Now there is such a thing as necessary suffering in this world.
And much of the problems we see today are because we try to do what's quick and what's easy and what only satisfies our flesh, our base instincts.
But history shows us and the history of societies and civilizations shows us clearly That when people stand up and are involved, and are aggressive, and are dynamic, and are passionate, and are loving, and are individualistic, you have milk and honey.
You have dynamic societies.
But history shows, just like a fine Swiss watch, Right on time that the children of those pioneers tend to be a little less self-sufficient, a little less made of the same metal, a little more pampered.
Their parents love them.
They take care of them.
They don't stress them.
And then the children of those children get even more pampered.
And then soon, you're dealing with decadent, dumbed-down, mindless sloths.
And I count myself, in many respects, one of them.
But compared to many other people I see, it's terrifying.
There are many, many steps down the ladder into that pit further than I have fallen.
We've got to dig ourselves out of this if we want to be blessed and want to be rewarded.
I'm not going to go into any more preaching.
It's just that I realize how blessed I am, how lucky I am, how just unbelievable my life is, the capacity I've been given, the responsibility I've been given.
To be able to talk to millions of people every day, and to be able to talk to tens of millions on all the other talk show interviews I do, on other radio shows and TV shows, and to have InfoWars.com and PrisonPlanet.com.
At least I'm putting one foot in front of the other and I'm asking God for guidance.
And I'm doing everything I can.
You know, last night I got a call and they wanted me to go on Coast to Coast AM in the first hour and I was honored and blessed to do it.
To be able to talk to all those people.
And I told a story on air.
It's been many years since I've cried.
I don't see that as weakness.
I see that as strength.
And sometimes I see things that are so good and so beautiful that I get a tear in my eye.
people that are being persecuted and I'll get some tears in my eyes and I don't see that as weakness I see that as strength and sometimes I see things that are so good and so beautiful that I get a tear in my eye but driving home yesterday from the radio show I began to cry I just thought about how they take people's newborn babies in China and kill them and sell their body parts I
I just felt the pain, just a shadow, just an inkling of the pain of those mothers and those fathers and those grandparents living in that vice grip of evil.
And I thought about I thought about all the little black children predominantly and some white children and Hispanic children taken by CPS all over the country and taken and given to medical institutions and farms where they test everything from pesticides to flame retardant material to drugs on them and they kill them in many cases and it is a normal, it is a real response
If your heart has been blackened, if your conscience, if your soul isn't pink and soft, then it's already begun to harden.
I don't know how people can harden their hearts.
I don't know how people can be so self-centered that they're not involved in fighting this.
I don't know how we can just sit here and watch all of this happen and put up with this.
On the air, I went into how this is real to me, and how somebody's got to speak for these people.
Because just a good old boy, and I could hear it in his voice, he meant well.
He thought he was righteous.
He called in, and he said, Alex, I don't mean to sound mean here, but I really need to know.
Are you a Democratic Party spokesman?
Are you a paid, some kind of paid operative?
And he didn't sound evil.
He didn't sound frothing.
He really thought I was just making all this up.
He really thought I was making it up that Bush... I knew he got us in debt, but I didn't know what Paul Craig Roberts, the former chief economist at the Treasury Department, talked about last week.
I didn't know that he got us in more debt than all the presidents before, including Bill Clinton.
All of them together, combined in history, in 225 years.
I didn't know that.
But I said, he's that conservative.
I'm against the assault weapons ban.
Bush is for it.
So I'm a liberal, because I guess he's a conservative.
And I got an email today going, that just can't be true.
They're not testing pesticides on kids.
I just can't find it.
I just don't know where it is.
Well, it's right there on the website, right in front of you.
You can go read the rule change.
You know what else you can go read right now at Cornell Law Online or any other major body of law online, any other law school online?
Chapter 32, subsection 1520A, paragraph B, where the federal government authorizes the covert testing for experimental reasons, any chemical, biological, or radiological system they wish for experimentation or for the public good and some other bumbo-jumbo.
And if you don't know about the Tuskegee with the syphilis and all the atomic soldiers and the radiating the little kids and all of it.
If you don't know about it, fine.
And I get your emails all the time.
None are so blind as those that don't have eyes to see.
And I don't know what you're talking about in this email.
Dear InfoWars, and I'm sure this person's nice too.
Until now, everything I've ever heard Alex say has been backed up by other sources.
I am not certain, however, this That his explanation of the chemical testing on children is accurate.
It seems from the EPA study that the children will not be exposed to any additional chemicals other than those than what are already being exposed to in their homes.
What does that mean?
The whole thing is about chemical testing and drug testing on foster kids.
It's a huge scandal ongoing for four years.
I mean, it hadn't just been on this radio show.
Alex is saying that children will be exposed to additional chemicals in the study.
The EPA says that's not so, which is true.
There's hundreds of pages of mumbo-jumbo, but then when it gets down to it, there's nothing about the EPA doing a study.
It's saying, well you can go read it, I read the subsections yesterday, here and here.
What are you talking about?
Children who cannot be reasonably consulted, such as those that are mentally handicapped or orphaned, newborns may be tested on.
With permission from the institution or guardian in charge that the individual child may be exposed to chemicals for the sake of research.
I mean, that's out of the subsection.
And it's not just Alex Jones, it's the Organic Consumers Association of America.
That's a huge organization.
They just went and read the rule change.
I mean, it's 70 FR 5386526.408.
But you just... I mean, what are you talking about?
You can't find it.
You're not looking very hard.
I've gotten emails.
Where is the story about the Israeli kids getting radiated?
I've gotten a whole bunch of those.
Well, where is it?
Well, it's in a bunch of the Jewish newspapers.
I mean, what do you want me to do?
Deliver it to your front door?
And look, I'm not mad at you.
It's just, look, I want you to go check out what we're saying and what we're covering, but we post it there every day.
It's right there.
In fact, in this data page we built about This latest rule change proposal, we have right next to it, related.
The ringworm children, how Israel's government irradiated 100,000 Israeli kids.
Here's another one.
Feds, some age drug test violated rules.
Feds tested age drugs on foster kids.
Stuff like that.
And that's bad, that's nothing.
I mean, we've got New York Daily News and other New York papers where they make them drink pesticide and they die, okay?
I mean, it's in, like, major newspapers.
And it tears my guts out.
They're just as bad as the serial killers that kidnap little kids and kill them.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen.
And yes, coming up today, we had him in studio back on Monday.
And they're about to go back to England tomorrow, so we're going to have them back in studio today, and that's going to be Paul Watson and of course his brother Steve Watson that are here in the United States, the respective webmasters of PrisonPlanet.tv, PrisonPlanet.com, and InfoWars.net.
I guess I'm a little emotional today.
I'm good friends with Tex Marx and Wanda Mars.
They're just really sweet, good people.
Did you know their daughter died yesterday after losing a battle with esophageal cancer?
Please don't call them and bug them and bother them, folks.
I know that most people don't even know about it, but I think we should pray for Tex and Wanda because I just couldn't imagine losing a child.
That's got to be one of the Most horrible things there is out there to lose a child.
I mean, it's bad enough to lose a parent or a grandparent, as I talked about at the start of the show, but I didn't go there, but I am going there.
But just imagine, in the order of things, the scheme of things, losing a child.
I don't know what that's like.
And I pray to God, if he grants me any wish for my pathetic services against the New World Order, that I never have to experience that.
Again, life is flashing.
It is fleeting.
It is a flash in the pan.
It's gone.
Enjoy it.
Love it.
Love others.
People who only care about themselves are totally unhappy.
They think, oh, I've just got to have more, more, more, more, more.
And they only get more and more unhappy.
Yesterday, I just had an incredible, overwhelming feeling of service.
And I don't mean that, again, in some high and mighty It was a comfort.
I was being comforted.
Yesterday, I was sad about the horrible things the New World Order does.
I was mad that they get away with it.
I was frustrated.
I was really upset driving home, and I was comforted that I'm doing the best I can, that evil is always punished, that there are good people in the world.
There are a lot of good things that are left in the world.
And just that... I don't know what to say.
It's... For those out there, there's just so many good people.
They're like that ten-year-old girl who was walking home from her friend's house, down the street from her house, from a sleepover, And a sack of maggots, a sack of hell pus, and that's the only way I can describe it.
Somebody, I would like to just torture that person to death, but I wouldn't do that.
I wouldn't do that to Joseph Smith, and that was his name, Joe Smith, who had three daughters himself, and he went and he grabbed her for his own demonic Satisfaction and he tied her down in horror and raped her and raped her and raped her for days and then he strangled the life out of her.
But because evil is so dangerous, we can't give into it even if it feels like vengeance is ours.
It isn't because if we tortured that maggot, we would lower ourselves in some respect to his level.
No, he should be treated like a dog.
A rabid dog.
He should be given a one appeal and then unceremoniously taken out in a ditch in a firing squad and he should blow his stinking head off.
I mean, I'll be honest with you, the animal in me would just pour molten lead down that guy's throat.
I'd gouge his eyes out myself.
You know, that's what the beast in me wants to do.
But we cannot lower ourselves.
We cannot go down that road.
And, uh, it just makes me sick.
But let me tell you something.
It's just as evil, in fact, in many levels, it's more evil to have this organized system where the foster children are here, they're three-year-olds, and they're going to be part of a little study, and they're wards of the state, and if you're wards of the state, the government can basically give you to corporations for testing.
And this is admitted.
And then they take them, and they give them toxic drugs, and they test their blood, and check their livers, and they get serious health problems, they get sick, they die.
Then there's the cases in our own country, in Israel and other areas, where they just take little five-year-olds in, and strap them in, and send high radiation to their little skulls.
And a large portion die, and the others are brain damaged for life.
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And there is just a whole host of news.
Bush's approval ratings fall again, the whole show.
Cheney is vice president for torture, and that's former CIA director.
That's right, a former CIA director and a conservative, Admiral Stansfield Turner, says we're turning into an absolutely disgusting police state and we're all in danger.
Just like Paul Craig Roberts, highest level conservative you can pretty much get, saying the same thing.
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This is really dangerous.
A total fraud.
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Now, that's always a tell-tale sign.
Finally, when Rome went into serious decline, Emperors, Caesars began naming things after themselves while they were alive.
It is not done in free societies.
It is done, I guess, in places where you've got a queen.
It is a sign of massive tyranny.
And right here in Austin, we have another bag of maggots.
Judge Jean Meir.
I mean, this woman is an abomination.
I could do ten shows on her.
And she's got a huge complex for breaking up families and destroying children's lives.
And it's just a huge cancer.
Her Juvenile Justice Center, and it's named after her.
I mean, this is just a scourge of evil.
And when you see that, folks, I mean, you're talking about, in your face, megalomaniacal tyranny.
It's just another signpost.
It's a benchmark.
It's a signature.
It's a wavelength.
It's an absolute dead ringer.
It's the forensics of tyranny.
Just one more indicator.
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There is good news in the world.
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The telescreens.
They already have them in London.
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Louie Free charges 9-11 commission cover-up.
This is a total whitewash.
A whitewash within a whitewash.
They'll pose as if they're whistleblowers, bringing you a whitewash, and then you'll swallow the sugar-coated cyanide doublet.
Two charge over Iraq memo leak.
Oh, you leaked memos about how the whole Iraq war stage.
Well, we'll just charge you.
Police admit shoot-to-kill mistakes over in London.
XMI5 boss criticizes useless ID cards.
They're saying it'll increase identity fraud.
Well, that's the plan, Jack.
And shocking pictures released of more Iraq torture.
And the Washington Post is saying, our source is not Dick Cheney for the leak.
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I want to get more into these documents.
It says oil chiefs met with Cheney Task Force.
Because this is just catching them red-handed in lies and the chemical and pesticide and drug testing on foster children and mentally retarded children, handicapped children.
It's just, what you do to the least, you do to me.
That's what Christ said.
Again, that's what predators do.
They target the weak.
And if you can sit there as the strong, well, they're going to wait until you're in the nursing home, folks, to rip you off and not change your sheets.
And your kids will all be decadent and 45 years old and won't care about you.
They're going to wait until you have that stroke to kill you in the hospital and steal your organs.
They're going to wait, you see, and you're going to be in that position someday, and you could have had 20 years of life ahead of you, but somebody didn't take care of you, so it's over for you.
This stuff all comes back on us.
None of us are safe when the weak and the innocent and the meek are being persecuted.
None of us are safe when a third of the people in prisons and jails, conservatively, are innocent.
None of us are safe!
Now, coming out, and I will go see it late this evening, I've got a lot of work to do today, and I will...
I'll give you a report back on Monday on Walk the Line, the Johnny Cash story.
We'll see if it's a liberal propaganda piece or if it's accurate.
I know a little bit about Johnny Cash.
I'm a huge fan of Johnny Cash.
I like the music.
But I figured we'd play this, my own personal Jesus.
It's kind of a multi-faceted song.
It's also kind of a jab at the phony preachers, which we're going to be talking about.
Paul Watson and his brother yesterday were watching television, 700 Club, because they're Christians.
Watch it.
Pat Robertson began Satan worshipping live on television.
In between telling us that biometrics and retina scanning are of the Lord.
And Paul has been busy.
He had a lot of problems downloading the clips.
He did find it.
He did download it.
He is writing an article about it.
It will be out this weekend.
It will be out before they jump on the airplane.
And so look for that at InfoWars.com.
But we're going to have video of it, stills of it.
Just actually going, oh Jesus, oh Jesus, I love you Lord.
Doing the devil sign while he does it.
Which in black magic, you actually get more power off that.
So you desecrate the name of Christ while you do it, combining the Satanism with it.
That's actually highest level black magic.
And please don't call me saying Pat Robertson's good.
He said China's doing what it has to do with forced abortion and infanticide.
And people actually called him five years ago, four years ago, defending him when he did that.
They went, well still, don't talk bad about him.
I've seen him.
In fact, I have a tape somewhere around here where he says implantable microchips.
Are not a problem.
And now we have him saying biometrics are a problem.
So that will all be on the show Monday.
The audio of that, but coming up by the night or tomorrow, we'll have all the video clips of it and a big article about it.
Paul's been working on it since yesterday.
All day yesterday, fighting with the video.
With his 1845 model laptop.
I'm joking.
Hey, let's go ahead and go to just a little bit of... I'm going to play the whole song.
This is the last record, last CD, last bundle of songs that Johnny Cash put out.
It just appears before he died.
I think right after his wife had died.
They're all Christian songs on the CD.
Go ahead and roll that.
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Seriously, we've got all this news to go over, but you guys are watching television.
We've written articles about Berlusconi, the president over in Italy, Putin, the king from Jordan, Ronald Reagan, George Bush Senior, Dan Quayle, I mean everybody doing the Diablo.
I don't mean, you know, the I love you, doing the Diablo over and over again, and then Jax Mars wrote a book that's just full of preachers constantly doing it.
And they will say, oh Jesus, and then do the sign of the devil.
And so I got over to the hotel room you guys were in last night, and I walk in there and you've got your laptop on, Codex Magica open, and you're like, look at this!
You've finally been able to find it and download it.
Well, he was doing a bunch of stuff in his TV show on 700 Club.
A lot of you may have seen it yesterday, how Big Brother's here to stay, oh, threat of scanning at the public schools isn't a big deal.
But then he did something else.
So guys, go over that.
Talk about what you witnessed.
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We were eating breakfast, watching the 700 Club, expecting to see rampant hypocrisy as usual.
And first they had on some plastic surgeon, so it was very Christian now to have plastic surgery.
For some reason they were promoting that.
And then later, Robertson went off on a rant against body piercing.
So again, contradicting himself.
They were talking about physical ailments.
He kept doing the hand over the heart gesture which according to Tex Marser's book again in some circles is a sign of the occult.
Then he started talking about an ailment of abdominal pain or something like that and he closed his eyes and he started talking about the burning.
You can feel the fire, you can feel the fire.
And then about a minute later Um, he's talking about something else, and he clearly flashes El Diablo.
I didn't see it at first on the television, but my brother saw it.
Um, so he said that he'd done that.
We continued watching the show.
And then they had this question raised about, um, child, uh, child finger scanning to get into a school.
And, um, Robertson's response to it was basically to whitewash it and say, Big Brother's in control.
Yeah, so, I thought, there's an article in itself, um, we went on the 700 Club's website, found the live stream, um, I downloaded some special software, it took all day to download the video because it was half a gig.
Um, and we did capture the El Diablo sign when he did it, um, and the answer to the question about biometrics, so we've got an article coming up in the next couple of days.
And Steve, this isn't just passing, I mean, what did you think when you saw it?
You've, uh, I mean, we've now seen the video, we have video, it's going up in the next day or so, but, but I mean, tell the folks what, I mean, it was totally obvious.
Yeah, well, I mean, it's, it's, it's often very easy for paparazzi photographers or whoever to capture celebrities Um, waving, and it kind of looks like the El Diablo sign, but this was clear.
It was... He basically held up his hand, and as he was talking... He was saying the name Jesus.
He was saying Jesus, Jesus, and he basically transformed it into the El Diablo sign.
It's... It's not an easy thing to do, either.
You have to really think about what you're doing with your hand.
Yeah, it all sounds very bizarre, but I mean, the thing is, he's sat there with his co-host, eyes closed, and he's setting himself up.
Suggests that he's getting these messages of these people that have ailments and that he is actually healing them on air.
So although it sounds bizarre what we're saying, it's equally as bizarre what he's actually playing out on TV.
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Like he's Jesus, he can psychically entwine who needs healing and it's coming into him and it's direct from God.
So that was pretty odd.
At the end of the biometric justification and advocacy, He said, well at least we don't have to give DNA or blood samples yet, which is actually happening if you read the news.
I see now we're even, and look, I saw him like three years ago on TV, we have the clip, we played it on the local show, and he says, oh microchips, that's not a problem, yeah.
Yeah, let's go ahead and get our, I mean, yeah.
And people are like, hey, Pat Robertson didn't say that.
He's a lord.
Well remember when he came out and said forced infanticide and abortion is okay in China?
And then his clarification on the CBN website was, well, they are overpopulated.
I'm sorry, what were you going to say, Paul?
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Yeah, just the DNA legislation is in the new Patriot Act, so that's all coming along anyway.
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Paul, Steve, my wife and I, Ryan Slickhizen and his girlfriend.
We all went to dinner at Dave and Buster's.
But driving in the car, we were just talking about it.
We're saying to ourselves, why?
Why are we watching Christian leaders do this?
Clearly drawing down power, clearly doing El Diablo.
Why are all these corporate symbols like this?
I mean, we know they're devil worshippers, but it just is so weird!
But Hollywood throws it in our face.
Remember the comedy with Aykroyd and Hanks, Dragnet?
Just the facts, man!
And then, really, the leader of the pagans is the big Christian leader.
Remember when they all dance around and the cops catch them?
I mean, that's Hollywood just flaunting it, just throwing it in our face.
This is what they're into, but it's kept very quiet.
Just comments on why they do this, why they believe in this, why they're just raving lunatics, I guess.
unidentified
Well, I mean, Tate Robertson is basically the voice of Christian America for a lot of people.
If he's coming out with a stance, even if you bypass the El Diablo, even if you think that was accidental, which it blatantly wasn't, some people do take it too far and say that everybody's doing it, but that was deliberate, but bypassing that, Just the advocacy of Big Brother.
Mainstream Christians in America will take that as the kind of platform of Christianity in the new millennium.
I've been talking about this forever, pulling my hair out.
And I remember Pat Robertson just six, seven years ago saying biometrics were bad.
Or, well, we better watch these.
I don't know about these, but now he's, look, it's good, all right?
And by the way, I mean, it's just, it's just in your face.
unidentified
And then, on the subject of the schools, um, it's not a training ground for a police state, it is a police state, it is a jail when you've got surveillance cameras everywhere.
You've got armed guards everywhere now in schools.
I mean, that was everywhere just twenty, thirty years ago.
A hundred years ago, that's all you saw.
Every little farm had a boxing rink out in the barn.
I mean, we're becoming mutated scum monsters.
unidentified
Well, yeah, they're doing it through culture.
They're doing it through Reading newspapers, but mainly, you know, through creating norms and stereotypes of trendiness, which is what a lot of people buy into.
We've had so many requests to re-air it that coming up to the third hour, we're going to play the Paul Craig Roberts interview from last Friday.
Very, very important.
We talk about America becoming Nazi Germany.
The design destruction of the economy, it's all coming up, but we've got an hour more live with you on this Friday edition in the studio of Paul Watson and Steve Watson.
I want to talk a little bit about what happened in London while we were there and just the Big Brother police state and the population and how they responded.
I want to do that and talk about some of the articles you guys wrote about that before you leave us, because quite frankly we're shooting in here for the British documentary I'm making.
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So we're going to do some of that coming up after we cover some news and take calls.
But right now, and I'm going to move your calls quickly, folks, and then on to the next person.
Let's go to the calls.
Thanks for holding.
Let's talk to Jason in Maryland.
Jason, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
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Yeah, Alex, I talked with you a couple of months ago, I guess it was, a month and a half, something like that, and I told you that George Norrie had a friend who said there were bomb Uh, are blast marks found on the, uh, dykes there?
I know this, the FEMA deliberately sabotaged things, they jammed the police communications day one, blocked the aid getting in, to make it as bad as they could.
So they could then come save us.
Let's talk to Ben, and he's calling us from Mississippi, speaking of the hurricane and the aftermath.
Go ahead, Ben.
unidentified
Hello Alex, Paul, Steve, welcome to the states from the state of hospitality.
Thank you.
Thank you, sir.
Alex, I was listening to a popular syndicated talk show a while ago and the host was alluding to a story about a man who had HIV and then 14 months later mysteriously it was gone.
Actually, the virus doesn't really cause AIDS, and that's a whole other show, and I mentioned this back on Tuesday when it first broke.
It's been well known, but yeah, it's finally in the BBC and the Independent and the Telegraph, it's finally in British newspapers and French newspapers.
That you can actually recharge your immune system and get it back in most cases.
What they do is they find people who already just so happen to have this virus in them that is a mild virus overall and most people that are actually dying of AIDS either already have bad immune systems or already were hemophiliacs and had problems and then they get complicating other diseases or cancers or hepatitis
that kills them, but most of the people dying, you know, we're having 100 sexual partners a month, folks, I'm not kidding, were literally, I mean, I don't want to go into any details here, but it's not a very pretty picture, and snorting methamphetamine, but it's not a very pretty picture, and snorting methamphetamine, using street drugs that are dirty, full of all sorts of heavy metals and toxins, and then that just kills your, the life force in your body,
It kills the T lymphocytes, and that is what kills you.
And I had doctors tell me this when I was like 15 years old.
I read this in medical journals when I was like 16 years old.
I mean, this is not a big secret.
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The thing that was weird about it, though, was he was alluding to Whether or not the government has a right, now right, to nab his DNA to see whether or not he has a genetic quote-unquote cure for the virus.
Well stay there, I want to hear, well of course they got some weird police state angle.
Actually there was a federal court appeal a few years ago where they ruled that when you give blood at the hospital or blood to a company or blood test they're allowed to sell that and anything they find in your blood you don't have intellectual property rights to it.
Something we should all be aware of.
Of course you own your blood and any value that's in it, but not according to them.
You get a blood sample for something else you don't even know.
They're busy selling that.
So stay there.
We'll come back and talk more about it, Ben.
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In many cases, the drugs they give you to treat HIV are actually what kills you.
Remember Magic Johnson, he had AIDS, HIV?
Hadn't developed football and AIDS yet, and then, oh, he just, decades later, oh, I'm fine, I'm great, I don't have it anymore.
But see, he still goes out and pushes, be sure and take your AIDS medication.
Ooh, he's a big poster boy for that.
And it just goes on and on and on.
Frankly, what kills you is you snort enough drugs or shoot enough drugs, cut with heavy metals and poisons, you're going to shut down.
You're going to die.
Or other viruses that wouldn't affect you will be able to affect you, and cancer viruses that were already in you from vaccines or from The foreign RNA that was placed into your bloodstream because you had thousands of sexual partners is going to overwhelm and short-circuit you.
And then you're going to die.
That's what does it.
Now they've caught them in Africa, people who have never been sexually active, whose parents don't have AIDS or HIV.
Let me tell you, the virus that causes AIDS.
And this has been in the BBC, remember a few years ago, and they said, well then why do all these kids have it?
And all they could link it to was the shots, and then some people broke in, and some scientists in India and Africa looked at it, and lo and behold, there was magically HIV virus in the needles.
And then it was in the news, well they must have been there because they were sharing the needles.
The UN was giving kids a shot, 100 kids a shot with the same needle.
And then I got a call, people say, well Alex, I thought you just said that the HIV virus doesn't cause AIDS.
Well, they've found other little, little pathogens and goodies in the shots they're giving them.
I mean, this is all over the foreign press.
They've caught them adding different hormones to tetanus shots than sterilized women.
They've caught them with deadly cancer viruses being added.
Just a few weeks ago, there was some new cancer virus that spread all over England, and it's killing thousands and thousands of people a year that was in some vaccines.
I mean, Paul, Steve, how often do you see stuff like that in the news?
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Quite often.
I mean, there was another article about, um, I think it was in Italy, where condoms were tainted by the HIV virus.
It's a cover for the other stuff, and then they're killing you with it, and then the virus is just there, and they go, ooh, antibodies for the virus, and then you never look at... It's like I stab you with a sword, And then make you eat an aspirin as you're bleeding to death, and I say the aspirin killed you.
It just, it's... I'm sorry, go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a story about the guy who beat HIV with vitamins and alternative health.
Vitamins vs. Pharmaceuticals00:13:17
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Again, it highlights a question to me.
Is the EU regulation banning the vitamins in high doses, which are not even high dose?
Is that simply to create a monopoly market and make money?
Or is it because they know that these kind of treatments and alternative therapies aid our health to a magnitude that could never be matched by any pharmaceutical product?
Yeah, we didn't just fall off the turnip truck here, pun intended folks.
We've been saying vitamins can beat it if you didn't totally burn yourself out and if you stopped snorting the methamphetamine.
I mean, I've known several people that died of AIDS in a tertiary manner, and I knew they were drug addicts.
And as they were dying, they were still snorting methamphetamine.
Because the methamphetamine was killing them.
The liver disease was killing them.
That's the type of... I mean, go ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, Big Pharma's come out immediately after he made the claim and said, we've got to study this, even though he'd had, like, four or five separate tests by separate medical institutions, which said the same thing, that he'd defeated it.
So they're going to come out on the attack, whereas, you know, their poison, Tamiflu, is turning kids in.
Yeah, well, two have committed suicide and twelve have died, and that's just, that's what's being reported.
You know, normally the doctors don't go, the Tamiflu did it, because they think they're going to be liable.
You don't think when you die of malpractice, folks, they go, it's us, we killed you.
So that number is conservatively ten times greater.
That's the index I'm reporting.
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And if it's, um, Sold as the solution to bird flu, if they play that card with, of course, Rumsfeld and top Bilderberg members owning the stock, you know, that percentage of people becoming ill, suicidal from the Tamiflu is only going to go through the roof.
And last time they owned the stock with the Cipro, and made billions, and it's just the same thing every time.
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Yeah, White House was on Cipro before the Anthrax attacks and it led back to Fort Detrick to secure U.S.
base and they'd done the test years before about sending weaponized Anthrax through the mail.
So I mean it's in their agenda to create these bio-attacks because it doesn't necessarily damage their infrastructure but it creates mass panic and terror even on a small level.
And they get to also at the same time prance around as our saviors.
Does that answer your question Ben in Mississippi?
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Yes it does, but the most disturbing thing about it was he alluded to intimate domain and how the government can of course take your property for as he said, the common good.
He said if they can do that, maybe they can take your own DNA.
What do you think about the FDA about the change the rules where they can take mentally ill children or healthy children that have been taken from their parents?
If the government is the guardian, they can test pesticides, chemicals, flame retardants, toxic levels of whatever they want on them.
That's just an expansion of U.S.
Code, Title 50, Chapter 32, Subsection 1520A, Paragraph B.
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Yeah, I heard you talk about that last night on Coast to Coast, and I think that's very sick and very evil.
I mean, if we don't protect, as you said, the infirm and the lesser among us, then we've all had it.
We've got to thank George Norrie because he's taken that show in a new direction.
I'd say about 40% of his guests now are hardcore anti-New World Order and in the past it was about 5% were.
There is no venue that big letting us get the word out.
It's exciting.
Any comments on Coast to Coast AM?
unidentified
Well yeah, what is it, 20 million listeners, roughly, tonight?
It's a great opportunity.
It's one that's never been there before.
And as you said, George and Uri's taking it in the direction of really hardcore information.
They're kind of moving away from the more amorphous stuff that you can't prove, although it's interesting and that's how they got the views in the first place.
But now they're tackling really hardcore issues and we can only commend them for it and thank them for giving us the opportunity to be involved with that.
I mean, they never tell me what I can or can't talk about.
I just come on the air and I can talk about the FDA about to approve the murder of children.
I mean, I appreciate that.
I mean, I want to save these kids.
And talking to our couple million listeners is great, but to be able to reach that new audience all the time, that is really important.
And so kudos to George Norrie.
In fact, folks, email him and tell him that I said on air I appreciate him.
He needs to be supported.
When they start doing the right thing, when the media starts taking a bold stance, when people are doing a good job, you know, Lou Dobbs, when he's done good on the immigration issue and a few other issues like NAFTA and GATT and the free trade area of the Americas, he helped kill that.
Hugo Chavez does the right thing, we've got to thank him.
I mean, when people in power do the right thing, we need to support them.
And it's just that simple.
But let's go ahead and talk to Maureen in Washington.
It was even on History Channel about five years ago and I interviewed some of the women.
This is mainstream news.
Dr. Ewing Cameron even lost lawsuits over it up in Canada at the CIA base.
They had their thousands, I forget the exact number, I want to say 5,000, I know it was in the thousands, 6,000.
over a 20-year period, they would actually, this is how they would do it.
They'd have mainly upper-class yuppie families who believed in the system.
They had hundreds of fake psychiatrists.
Well, they were real doctors, but they were actually CIA, and they'd say, your daughter is a little depressed.
They like 10-year-old girls with their favorite they found, the easiest to program.
And they would say, give them dust.
You've got to institutionalize them.
And they'd get them for a few years and first they do shock therapy.
Therapy, yeah.
It's like shooting yourself in the head and calling it therapy.
They then, for six months, every day, LSD, PCP, peyote, mescaline, cocktails, mushrooms, cocktails of this with headsets on, just like I'm wearing right now, scrapped in with bags so they didn't even get up to go to the bathroom. scrapped in with bags so they didn't even get up It was all just catheterized or going into a bag.
I hate to get gross here.
This is mainstream.
This is admitted.
This is in Congress.
Feeding them, telling them who they are, programming them with key words, and they actually could create total zombies who you'd say, be happy and be a ballerina.
They'd be a ballerina.
Now, go totally crazy and kill John, codename Delta.
No, no, I'm serious.
So I'm not saying that you're not telling the truth.
You are telling the truth.
I'm just saying you're making this claim.
We can confirm it.
This is public.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, I have a website in which I describe what happened to me.
I'm old enough to remember the Nazis in full uniform.
And I was a part of the UFO hoax, which it was a hoax.
Well, see, it's always gotta... MKUltra's admitted, they did that, they tortured these children, they really did it, but no, you, they dressed you up like a gray and you were... Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, before... Fighting with the turkeys and... Wait a minute, before you discount me, would you read what I have on my website?
I'll check your website out, and it may be credible.
Why?
And you know what?
If I think it is, I'll have you on as a guest, okay?
I'm sure you're a very nice person.
Thanks for the call.
I just... I just, you know... The EPA is changing these rules.
This is on their website.
This is happening.
The government did do this to people, and I think if we mix in, dressed up... If we mix space aliens into it, it just... I just can't handle it.
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Okay, I don't know why I'm talking about the movie I'm going to go see on the air, but you see what happens is, again, I'm in studio now, I have guests in studio, I'm not in my little cubbyhole pod on board a gray spaceship that I used to do.
That's a joke, folks!
Look, to the lady earlier, Paul was saying that a lot of evidence shows, and this is true, that black helicopters are associated with cattle mutilations that really do happen, that a lot of people that are getting kidnapped by people in these little rubber suits, Are being taken to underground facilities that we know exist, and that this is part of some larger government psyops.
And we've even gotten government documents on potential plans.
This has been admitted!
They considered it in the first Iraq invasion to have a fake alien invasion with these big projectors that can shoot like a 500 foot across, 200 foot tall spaceship, or Buddha, or Jesus, or Allah.
You see these Las Vegas lights and all this?
I've seen those in the stuff of Mexico City.
It's obviously a hologram.
Yeah, you've got two million people in Mexico City look up and see it, and then you look at it and it's blinking in and out.
It's always shot up into a cloud where the holograms can really form themselves.
Now we're really off in La La Land, but the lady brought it up.
Paul, you had comments during the break.
Let's just bring it out.
Let's just talk about it.
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Well, it's in the report from Iron Mountain, another similar document.
Some people don't think they're credible, but as Alex said, it's been admitted that they could be.
Well, we have Clinton's former Chief of Staff is the head of the Big Quote Disclosure Movement, and we have Big Rothschild's funding.
I'm sorry, it's all in your book.
Tell us about it.
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Yeah, there's a chapter in Order Out of Chaos called Counterfeit Foe, the next Hegelian dialectic, something like that.
It's basically, when terrorism has run its course, they're probably going to use universal threats, as Reagan said in that speech in the UN, as the next fear-mongering tool.
So it could come from asteroids, weather, which they seem to be using at the moment, or even UFO invasions that are staged.
It's not like out there to say that.
It could happen five, ten years in the future.
As Alex was saying, a lot of these abductions indicate that it's basically military testing.
I'll say this, about 98% of the people saying it are complete lunatics.
It doesn't help things to have the news saying, take your microchip to prove you're good.
Andy Rooney and the former Health and Human Services Secretary Thompson, they really are on TV saying, take your chip.
Sean Hannity on Fox News, a little clip of it, is actually in the film The Masters of Terror, and he says, every child needs a chip, I'm buying stock, take your chip.
I mean, we're living in this bizarro world.
What does that do to schizophrenics?
It drives them right off the edge of a cliff.
I mean, they're just howling at the moon with all this happening.
So, again, we have an insane elite pushing insane things.
You've got crazy people going nuts.
Then you've got real cases of real things going on.
Yeah, you're always seeing it at military testing grounds, and then they go, oh, the aliens are visiting us at the military skunk works, where they test experimental aircraft.
Wow, we're seeing weird, weird, weird objects at the experimental testing ground.
It's, it's not our government, it's purple blood-sucking goblins from the 4000th dimension, under rheumoroid-reptoid control.
Well, I just, I'm sorry folks, uh, you, you got the wrong show, because We're about verifying, verifying, verifying.
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I want to get off into, well first we'll cover some of the news we haven't gotten to and then we'll get off into London.
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There's something I'd like to bring to the attention of your listeners a little bit closer to earth.
This went by pretty much, I think, unnoticed by most people.
And it was in reference to a piece of legislation that passed the House of Representatives about a week ago, and it's referred to as the Secure Access to Justice and Court Protection Act.
Now, there were amendments added to that bill, and I think they're what make it even the most onerous thing of all.
What they did is they put an amendment through, there wasn't much discussion, it was passed on a voice vote, with regards to the posting of what they referred to as personal data on police officers over the internet.
Now, they're all legitimate cases in which I do understand that that could be a problem, or a hazard, and they couched the debate in those terms they spoke of, for instance, That's what it's about.
about basically the laws written so broadly that it wouldn't just include those legitimate cases where we should be careful and i'm in favor of that i'm not i'm not fanatical however it includes other cases it would wind up shielding police misconduct from shame or from public That's wrong.
That's wrong.
The law shouldn't be that broad, and it appears as though it may be written that broadly.
And it's now in the U.S.
Senate, and I think your listeners should pay a call to their U.S.
Senators.
And ask them just what is going on with this bill, in particular that amendment.
Again, let me state it clearly.
Well, I'm in favor of certain restrictions where you have genuine and legitimate threats.
That law should not be so expansive as to suppress appropriate criticism or the notation of unethical police misconduct either.
Absolutely, and he says they refer to the owl as a prince, which is how all angels were referred to in the Old Testament as princes, and Daniel 10 talks about the prince of Persia.
Look, the whole thing, and ridden the stones of Babylon and Goodly Tyre where they did the Moloch sacrifices, but it's worse than that.
If you really study the occultism behind it, and a listener pointed this out when I screened it at the Alamo Draft House here locally a few months ago, or actually a few weeks ago, He said, are you familiar with Faust?
And I had read the original.
Faust is a real guy.
I went in like 1540 there in Germany.
But the book written a few hundred years later about Faust, in there it's care.
There's like four or five things that the demon tricks him at the stop police, tricks him into giving up.
And one of them is care, but care escapes out of the box.
So they're also killing cares like metastabolize.
No, I've got your care.
I've got it.
I mean, this is sick, folks.
Everything they say is demonic.
It's just pure.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
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Well, in the New Testament, when there was a part where Jesus went to a place and a person that was possessed with a demon actually saw Christ, came and bowed down before him and said, Have you come to torment me before the time?
And that's the thing in the ceremony.
They say, We know that you wait for us.
You know, after our Sylvan holiday has ended, but I mean, they acknowledge the fact that they're going to answer for it.
And they said, don't fight him.
And just the words of terror, where he says, you know, spit upon your fire, you can't burn me with these words.
And so what do you say to people that watch it and go, oh I'm a Christian, Bush is a Christian.
They're just having fun.
No, it's all totally crafted with incredible knowledge of the Bible to be blasphemous.
It's like Pat Robertson going, oh Jesus, Jesus, while he's talking about healing somebody and he calls down the power and then actually invokes the spell.
I mean, that's what they do in black magic, people!
We also want you to analyze propaganda on TV, and if you can get a screenshot of it, or get a shot off the TV show's website, and then tell us the show number, and then send us the plot of the show, and what propaganda you saw, we're going to create a huge section on that.
Because that, again, I keep saying it for years, we've got to make the shift.
Most of the propaganda is not in the news, it's on the TV shows.
Fiction.
Okay, I'm going to take two more calls, because we've got to cover news, and talk a little bit about London.
Let's talk to Andrew in New York.
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Mr. Jones, I read something extremely disturbing today in my local pre-weekly newspaper.
I thought I'd pass it on to you.
I would have emailed it to you, but my laptop is not very healthy at the moment.
I would like to refer you to News & Blue's section of Syracuse New Times on the fourth page.
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Tom in Ohio, and that's it, because I've got to cover a few news items and talk about England with my guest.
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Hey, Alex, how are you?
Good, sir.
I'm calling to talk about an issue with vaccination.
I'm a head of a veterans organization here in Ohio called the Unified Veterans Coalition, and I've been studying Squalene in the anthrax vaccines that have been given to our troops since the Gulf War.
And I've been reading up on it and contacting Dr. Pamela Asa down at Tulane University.
Well, according to the medical doctors we've interviewed, I mean, it's not really good for you, but compared to mercury and the viruses and the DNA fragments, it's kind of the least of my concerns.
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Well, one of the issues about it is the squalene is actually One of the adjuvants, like you mentioned, like the thimerosal and the mercury, only it causes autoimmune illnesses.
So, you know, this goes along with that whole concept of keeping people in a lowered state or to where the drug companies could sell them drugs, perhaps.
But this additive has been in vaccines Since the Gulf War, in different levels, they've been able to test it at different levels.
It's not supposed to be in there, but it is.
They've tested military personnel both before and after they've had the vaccines.
And before they had the vaccines, they didn't have the antibodies, the squalene.
After they did, and it seems simple enough.
It's an oil and water emulsion.
But this one in particular makes the body confuse it with its own oil.
And so the body goes into like kind of a hyper state and attacks itself.
And that's why a lot of Gulf War illnesses are very random and different because it depends on where it attacks.
I'm frustrated because we can take unlimited calls and we've got so much to talk about.
Guys, let's talk about England.
And then we'll get into We'll get into documents as Old Chiefs met with Cheney Task Force and a lot more.
When we were in London, I mean, there were so many facets to it, but what was it like to have the police march up to you and tell you to turn your camera off when you were just on a public street interviewing people?
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Well, I mean, the fear-mongering at the time, we were there right after the bombings.
Three weeks after the first bombings, I believe, but then there was the second failed attempt.
So the state of panic was still quite high, even though Londoners basically were apathetic to the attack.
They just got on with their lives, they weren't really buying the government propaganda on it, and in fact the government only had a small window of opportunity to exploit that attack because it soon lost its steam.
But what I noticed with the police going back, before I flew over to Texas, I went to London to stay the night, um, the armed police have been removed from the, uh, train stations, the one at King's Cross, which I passed through, so basically that fad's over, now the government have lost all steam in exploiting it, the attack, they've removed the, um, police state.
So it's kind of settled down a little bit.
Tony Blair obviously got defeated in the Commons right after the attack.
He was banning free speech in certain areas around London Parliament Square, trying to get those laws through.
So the government had a very small window of opportunity.
Attempted to exploit the bombings failed overwhelmingly in my view and it makes it a little bit more dangerous that it could happen again.
Now it's come out that they caught MI six connected SAS, Special Air Services, dressed up like Arabs running around with plastic explosives in Basra, shooting Iraqi police and we've caught Israelis doing the same things with these shooting Iraqi police and we've caught Israelis doing the same things with these fake beards dressed Comments on that?
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Yeah, you've got fake beards, you've got fake Muslim garb and you're driving around shooting at police.
How can that not be suspicious?
The reports about bombs in the car were kind of amorphous, but it does seem to make sense.
Iran's saying that US and UK forces are behind a lot of these bombings, so the evidence is tending in that direction.
I want to get your take on that when we get back, Steve, and talk a little bit about London.
And some of the attitudes there, I would challenge some of the British people with real issues and they would just say, you've got a little bit of grass on your pants.
Look at you, you dirty little man!
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Yeah, well the situation in London I think now has died down slightly because Tony Blair is now seen as a sort of lame duck Prime Minister in that he's possibly going to be out of there in a couple of months.
But yeah, I mean, the issue of immigration was brought up a lot during the run-up to the general election.
The Conservative Party basically took the stance of We need to cut down a lot on immigration, even legal immigration, because there's just too many coming in.
Tony Blair took the stance of, well we have to look carefully at this and we have to analyse how many people are coming in.
But, I mean, basically it's a non-issue between the two parties and the general election basically petered out and they both converged into saying basically the same thing about immigration.
Well, it's always been that way, and it's only getting worse.
What about torture?
Stansfield Turner, who headed up the CIA in the early 1980s, has gone public and said the Vice President is the President for Torture, and he went on to say, I'm embarrassed the United States is a Vice President for Torture.
Admiral Turner claims the CIA Prisons used for torture are known as black sites.
Terrorist suspects are picked up in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.
They're flown by CIA-controlled private aircraft, which is totally criminal, to countries where they're tortured in secret interrogation sites operating outside any country's jurisdiction.
And a high-level former Republican, number two at Treasury, editor for the Wall Street Journal, last week, we're about to re-air the interview, said that he's ashamed of this and that you don't get good data from torture, you can't trust a government that tortures, that they're torturing just to get people to then say they're terrorists to create this false image of thousands of terrorists that don't even exist!
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Yeah, um, Robert's made the point that, what is it, nine, only nine at Guantanamo Bay have been charged and none have been convicted.
We're supposed to believe that there are these terrorist cells running around our back gardens planning things and the evidence just isn't there.
Same in Uzbekistan with Craig Murray, the British ambassador.
Um, he went over there to assess whether they were using torture, found convincing evidence that they were, he came back, told the British Government, they said, we don't care, we're still going to use the information anyway.
And in that country they were, in effect, creating the myth that these Al-Qaeda groups existed, because all the people were self-implicating themselves under duress of torture, which is what Robert stated.
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While we were in London, and this film's upcoming in a few months, while we were there, we had case after case where we'd be out on the street doing interviews with people, and we'd be showing the video cameras, and there were people working right there at the Hard Rock Cafe, and I'm like, look at these cameras!
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I've never noticed those!
He goes, yeah it's kind of Big Brother, but then he engaged in Doublethink right there, he goes, well I don't care, I say they don't exist, and if they don't exist, in my mind they don't exist.
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And this is exactly what we saw over and over again in London.
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So we interviewed the nearest person who happens to be the manager of the Hard Rock Cafe next to it.
He says, oh, I've never seen them before but You know, they're there to protect us, basically, but I choose to believe that they don't exist.
And there were examples after examples of that, weren't there, Paul?
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Yeah, I mean, you've got, you've got a nest of, what, six or seven cameras and people are out there saying they've never noticed them.
It's like, it's a survival mechanism to deny reality, but at the end of the day, it's not even a survival mechanism, it's quite dangerous.
Um, we were asking the attitudes of taxi drivers about the bombings, they were all quite ambiguous, they kind of believed the government lied at that point.
I think it's flipped around now, just a few months later, it's taken a very short amount of time for people to really question what actually happened.
Especially with the laundry list of evidence that it was an inside job, it was a staged event, which we've got on the website in the London Bombings Archive.
So the attitudes immediately after were quite guarded and they towed along with the government line.
But now I think it's flipped round to where people are really questioning the bombings and You know, Blair's approval rating's going down just as Bush's is, so we're starting to see the tide turning again, that typically.
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But I will get to the folks that are holding later in this hour with our next guest, who we're extremely honored to have on with us, and he's Paul Craig Roberts.
Let me just read the short bio on Dr. Roberts.
He's a John M. Oland Fellow at the Institute for He is a former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, former contributing editor for National Review, a former assistant secretary of the U.S.
Treasury.
He is the co-author of the Tyranny of Good Intentions.
And I just had him on during the break.
I was talking to him.
I said, Dr. Roberts, what do you want to talk about?
And he brought up something that's in my list.
You know, when I call Dr. Roberts or Ron Paul or any of these great men, I don't, you know, pre-screen what we're going to talk about.
I just have them on.
We talk about whatever they think is important.
And it was right when I opened the show with the day, this open acceptance of torture and the schizophrenia of what they're doing, putting people in prison.
But then the White House says that we're going to veto laws barring torture.
And Gonzales writes memos saying we can torture people to death if we don't call it torture.
But none of them get impeached or go to prison.
And then we found out about all these secret gulags that we reported on three years ago.
This is nothing new, nothing secret about them.
We know right where they're at.
Admittedly, it was in the Washington Post in early 2002.
They had the CIA section chief bragging that, oh yeah, we pressure them and torture them in different countries, Jordan and in Egypt, and it said we even do stuff for their kids in front of them.
Never forget that in the Washington Post.
I put that in my film, The Road to Tyranny, three years ago.
Here it is.
They say they do stuff for their children in front of them.
And boy, we learned they do do that at Abu Ghraib.
We had General Janice Karpinski on a few weeks ago.
They tried to blame them with stuff, but she wasn't even allowed into these CIA-controlled wings.
And now that's what Cheney says.
He says, I don't Want the Army to be able to torture?
Okay, I'll compromise.
Just the CIA?
Well, that's who does it!
So you understand, when you're for this torture, folks, you're for these big, fat, disgusting demons cornering little children.
And I just can't believe... I mean, even the Nazis didn't brag about their torture on the radio or in the newspapers.
I mean, we're the first ever, I guess since ancient times, to openly say that we do all of this.
And, I mean, God help us.
I mean, this is just unbelievable, but I've said enough.
He's here to talk about that, talk about the police state, all the setups for martial law we see taking place, and he's got real conservative credentials, and he's Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.
What do you think of the statements I just made about how we're against torture, but we're going to ban the Senate, we're going to veto the Senate saying you can't torture, and Gonzales says we can kill people, but that isn't torture, because we just changed the name, and yeah, we got secret camps, so what?
So the real question is, why do they want to torture people when it doesn't produce good information?
Could it possibly be that they need a whole bunch of terrorists who implicate themselves so they can prove there actually is a terrorist threat?
So they go round up... See, another thing, Alex, they know.
Our army knows, our government knows, the CIA knows, all these people they have in detention The likelihood of any of them being a terrorist is extremely low.
Most of these people, Alex, were rounded up in the equivalent of KGB, Stalin-era street sweeps.
They just happened to be there when troops came along and grabbed them.
Many of them, and it's been in the news, they have lawyers, many of them were people captured In Pakistan by Pakistani gangsters.
Well actually what the army admitted and the head CIA officer in Afghanistan for two years said is that they would get between five and twenty five thousand dollars per man woman or child and they would just go into little mountain villages of people that never had left their village who didn't even know where America was on a map.
This is admitted And it was actual Taliban who would actually then come sell these innocent people.
And the Army's own report said 75 to 90 percent of those were completely innocent of even ever picking up arms against us.
And they were just children and families that didn't have papers in order.
Yeah, and Arab businessmen who happened to... Anybody who's not protected were picked up by the warlords and the gangs and sold to the dumb shit Americans.
And so the people who are in these prisons are totally innocent people.
I bet you they haven't got five terrorists in the whole bunch.
And they know that.
But you see, they can't admit that they've made any kind of mistake or done anything that's stupid.
And they can't admit that They don't really know where the terrorists are, and they haven't caught any.
Well, I had Wayne Madison, who was, as you know, a NSA analyst, and he said working for Reagan back in the Back in the 80s, as you did, he said if they saw this type of stuff, if they saw an administration doing this in the 80s, they would have thought it's a fifth column, it's communist, they're doing this to make America look bad, they're doing this to bring America down, they're doing this to destroy all of our international connections.
And I said, well, Wayne, isn't that what's happening?
And he said, you know, yeah, it's a corporate interest that just is strip mining and insanely just in a bloody orgy of feeding.
They have to produce the image of massive numbers of terrorists to keep Enough Americans on their side who are fearful, and oh, the terrorists are going to get us.
See, they've got 750 terrorists at Guantanamo.
They haven't got seven terrorists at Guantanamo.
Why do you need to hold terrorists for three years without bringing charges?
If you know they're terrorists, it's very easy to bring charges.
If we know they're terrorists, why do we have to hold them for four years?
Well, how come we don't listen when the lawyers representing their families say, you've got my husband and my father and he's a Saudi businessman and he was captured in Pakistan and sold to you guys?
Well, that may well be what they have in mind, but they certainly aren't Achieving any goal in Iraq except more casualties for Americans by making them hate us ever more.
Sir, give us some more of your views on this when we get back.
Any other subjects you'd like to discuss, it's always very interesting to have Dr. Paul Craig Roberts on with us.
I think I might have an answer.
We'll see what the doctor thinks about my answer to another reason they might do it.
See, Rumsfeld told us why.
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I mean, that's Ron Paul, folks.
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This stuff's really happening!
They really are doing this!
But right before the Gulf War, in late 2002, they got a $6 billion federal program, a secret program funded, it was in UPI and the AP and a few other places, called P2OG.
And I don't know if Dr. Roberts is aware of this, But MP2OG, they said, we're going to kill people's family members.
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So, the plan is, you know, when they tell our troops to go in and you get shot at in a village, arrest every man down to age 11, bulldoze all their date palms, all their tangerine orchards, that is meant to generate, because do the corporations make more money if we're in Iraq a year and fix the problems and leave, or if we're there 10 years, 20 years, Dr. Roberts, does that now make sense to you or do you disagree?
And why the, you know, there's something wrong with the public and that it sits there like Idiots!
And that's a bunch of Nazis running wild.
But let me go back to... Let's talk about... Let's contrast the Senate's vote to restrict detainees' access to the courts with what happened just the other day in the British Parliament.
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So, the Senate says, gosh, here's the Supreme Court is going to enforce the Constitution and let people have rights.
Exactly, but that's what I'm saying is that none of us are safe, and the heart of America is that Bill of Rights, that Constitution, habeas corpus, that's why we're America, and they're taking all that away!
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We post a lot of them at infowars.com and prisonplanet.com, townhall.com.
They're all over the place.
He's written the book, The Tyranny of Good Intentions.
Yeah, these evil people use good people who think it's for good intentions to carry out this whole program.
And Dr. Roberts, of course, you were one of the major editors over at the Wall Street Journal, contributing editor for National Review.
What is it like for you as a former Assistant Secretary of the U.S.
Treasury in the Reagan Administration to see so many good conservative people?
I guess they were good.
I even have friends who I was on the page a hundred percent with five, six years ago.
Now, they're like, yeah, we all got to take microchips.
Yeah, because Bush and, you know, former Health and Human Secretary's person says it'll stop terrorism.
Andy Rooney says it.
I mean, this is insane body snatcher weird stuff.
Oh, torture's good.
We got to maybe give up some Second Amendment.
So what if Bush is for the assault weapons ban?
So what if Bush wants amnesty?
I mean, they're not even conservatives anymore.
They are literally Bush worshippers, Brown Shirt says, I know you've called them, I want to get into more on the torture, more on the police state being set up here domestically, but when you talk to your old conservative friends and they're still worshipping Bush, what do you say to them?
The people at National Review are nothing like the people that used to be at National Review.
They've all been run off.
There aren't any conservatives in those places.
You know, they're what I call Jacobins.
Neo-Jacobins or Neo-Nazis.
But look, let me, I want to make one point here and then let's move on to the economy.
Because that affects people too.
I don't know if you, you may have already covered this Alex, but yesterday in the publication Capitol Hill Blue, it reports a confidential memo circulating among senior Republican leaders, suggests that a new attack by terrorists on U.S.
soil could reverse the sagging fortunes of President George Bush, as well as the sagging fortunes of the GOP.
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This is a closely guarded memo and it lays out a list of scenarios, another terrorist attack on the U.S.
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So there it shows you the way these so-called Republicans think.
I'd like to say, too, these are nothing like the Republicans I work with.
They're nothing like the Republicans in the Bush administration.
I don't know who these people are or where they came from.
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Yeah, well, it may not work because it may simply prove that despite everything we're not safer.
So it's hard to know whether they're But whether their idea would work or not, people may simply say, well look, you took away all the rights, we went to war, you said all this and all that, and we're not safer.
Look, Alex, when I was doing Russian studies, I learned that the Czarist secret police used to conduct bombings so they could blame somebody they wanted to get and arrest them.
Well, it certainly has given Asians tremendous power over us, because they hold enough of They've got treasury bonds now that just the threat to dump them would send our interest rates skyrocketing.
Can I bring up another economic indice, and that's energy.
We have the oil companies own memos, starting back nine years ago, where they said we're going to buy up all the small, and I mean all, refineries, shut them down, restrict and cut back ours.
Then I watch it and then rip people off, create an artificial bottleneck, griping about Saddam over pumping, griping about Venezuela, because there's too much oil, they want to restrict it.
I don't think the oil companies, the American oil companies don't own much oil anymore.
says oh no we've built more refineries which is a total line and then they question the more as well we have it listen listen I don't I don't think the oil companies the American oil companies don't own much oil anymore they're mainly just retailers of gasoline and and they're actually even going out of You can't build a refinery in the United States because of all the environmental stuff.
Well, Dr. Roberts, the globalist in many different official UN reports and others have said this internationalism is about global corporations being more powerful than any country, and they want us all interdependent.
A lot of those things date from the Cold War, where one of our strategies to contain communism was to develop the vulnerable Countries, the ones that were poor and poverty-stricken and seem to be... Yeah, prop them up.
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Lou's been holding the longest, but I don't think he's for the guest.
We'll get to you with Bob Daisy.
Lou, if you want to hold even more, God bless you.
Dr. Roberts, we've just got about three minutes now and about five minutes to the next hour, but just in a nutshell before I go to these calls, and I'm going to go right to them.
We've got the new Fed chairman coming in.
We've got him saying, I'll print even more money.
I love printing money.
Where do you see it going?
I mean, are they going to lead us into total ruin?
Okay, to address a few things relative, of course, to what the doctor has been driving at.
Today it was actually reported in New York Newsday that the police commissioner of New York City has gone into a memorandum of understanding with the Central Intelligence Agency.
We have a local, it has to be emphasized, local enforcement agency.
And in fact, he has retained, and it seems to be a very favorite place for people who retire from the CIA to come and get a job in retirement, the NYPD.
So we definitely got strange going on here.
A few other things that have struck me very odd over the last several weeks, and they follow this way.
I begin to strongly suspect events in the world, case in point, The explosions in Jordan.
Now, if anybody knows Muslim culture or Arabic culture, they would know that attacking a wedding is an extremely taboo thing to do in that culture, if you're not aware of that.
He has a very good point, and I saw the Israeli newspaper Haaretz initially said that all the Israelis in those hotels had been given prior warning and were pulled out.