Barr McClellan discusses his book "Blood, Money & Power: How LBJ Killed JFK" on an episode of The
Alex Jones Show. He claims that Lyndon B. Johnson orchestrated the assassination of John F. Kennedy
with the help of associates and presents evidence to support this assertion, including fingerprints,
eyewitness accounts, and a crime scene analysis. McClellan also implicates the military-industrial
complex in a cover-up due to their vested interests and dissatisfaction with JFK's efforts towards
peace with the Soviet Union. The conversation with Alex Jones includes calls from listeners who
express support for McClellan's findings and share their own theories about the assassination."
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I'm coming to you from deep in the heart of Texas.
Coming up this weekend is the 40th anniversary of the assassination of one of our greatest presidents, John F. Kennedy.
Later, of course, his brother and Martin Luther King were killed in the evidence shows by the same gaggle of individuals in the military-industrial complex.
The father of the White House Press Secretary, who himself was a lawyer to LBJ from right here in Texas, is Barr McClellan.
And he is joining us from New York today, and he's got a new book out.
We're honored, so honored, to have him spend some time with us from his hotel room in New York City.
Well obviously there's a lot of people, I'm talking about that whole power structure, the meeting in Dallas the night before, we've had the witnesses on who said that he bragged that, you know, he'll never bother me again, he'll be dead tomorrow, but go over who Mr. Clark is for those that don't know.
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Clark was known as the boss of Texas as early as 1949.
He practiced law there and had a deal with the judges where the judges would either rule for him in close cases, which meant all cases, and if he wanted to talk to him, he always had access.
In turn, he took care of them with benefits of all kinds in all sorts of different ways.
He was practicing law in Austin as early as 1934.
It's a little known fact that he joined the Army in 1942.
When the war was going badly for us, he was stealing money from the quartermaster, for which he was kicked out of the army.
Somehow he survived that and gained the power he had.
This power continued, and the book has exhibits laying this out, with Johnson saying, you're the only man I trust.
I have, you know, deeply indebted to you.
But the main thing it shows is how they had a conspiracy as early as 1949, where in Clark's own handwriting he says, we're going to take care of this man for good.
And we have this death problem that we got to go along with and Johnson the next day writes back and said we know the risk you're taking and we'll see that you're protected.
It lays out that the basic arrangement they had up through past the assassination and that's really the heart of the book.
68 exhibits all showing what went on during the Johnson-Clark years and taking through to the fingerprints that put one of Johnson's hitman, Mack Wallace, on the sixth floor in Dallas, and the cover-up, which is also part of the crime.
His son, of course, is the White House Press Secretary right now as well, and that's caused quite a furor in the press.
Barr, I mean, specifically, and again, folks really should get the book, but specifically, The evidence of, and how this evidence surfaced, obviously as LBJ's lawyer, for you, how this surfaced and exactly what they were doing, how the operation was carried out from the evidence you have.
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Well, what I have shows Johnson's involvement in a crime where a federal agent was murdered on June 3rd of 1961.
The grand jury looked into the crime a number of years later and would have indicted Johnson for that murder.
The point there was Johnson in 1960 had all the motivations to be president.
He'd been de facto president, but had lost out to this young upstart named John Kennedy.
Yes, the particulars are Billy Solestas had been working with the Department of Agriculture, getting a lot of money.
Some of that money was going to Johnson.
But he'd gotten in trouble, he, Estes, and the Henry Marshall was investigating the financing.
They sent, they, Johnson and Estes sent Mack Wallace, who had killed before for Johnson, to visit Henry Marshall, and on June 3rd, 1961, up in Robertson County, Marshall was killed.
He was beat up, carbon monoxide poison was apparently tried, and then he was shot five times in the side with a bolt-action rifle.
Because of Clark's control of the justice system, in fact, the ruling was suicide.
That was reversed by the grand jury later, and they would have indicted Johnson if he'd still been around.
Now the hitman you just talked about, I remember his name being brought up by LBJ's mistress as well, about how he was constantly around him, how if somebody went out with this guy's girlfriend, he'd go after them, just incredible.
unidentified
Well, he was there, but he was kept pretty much undercover.
He was sent out to California to give him perfect cover and brought back as needed.
He always had a phone number in Dallas where he could be reached.
And he was tied very closely to the assassination by an eyewitness who was supposed to be one of the other patsies in the assassination.
He wrote a book that came out on what Lloyd Factor saw of Mack Wallace on the sixth floor.
We got the fingerprint putting Mack Wallace on the sixth floor.
And as you mentioned, Madeline Brown said he was there and Billy Solis said he was there.
So we have eyewitnesses, we have fingerprints, and we have a crime scene that shows how it was done.
Now, Madeline Brown is the mistress at the party with all the big Texas elite, some of the East Coast elite, basically a planning meeting with LBJ there.
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Basically what it boiled down to, when the power structure gets together, they are above it all, and they really don't have to get into the details, but they knew what was going on, and they were behind Johnson, Clark, Wallace, and that happened that day before.
From the people you talked to who were there at the party and the things that, I mean, any particulars you'd like to bring forward for the listeners?
unidentified
No, I wasn't there.
I have a good idea of how it was done because Clark had this way of talking insider knowledge and he would give out the information that something really big was going to happen and he had the support of the people for what that was.
There was no specific saying of how it was going to be carried out.
But as insiders knowledge, he's good at doing that.
And then now it's even coming out, I'm told, I haven't seen it yet, on the new Discovery Channel and History Channel shows they're airing, with them bragging that, you know, going over the radio, we got him, we got him, right after they blew his head off.
unidentified
These things were all reported and have been there and they are on the History Channel.
It's got a three-part series on the men who killed Kennedy and that's all being presented.
Now, I know the feeling of being so busy you can't even watch TV.
I'm gonna try to watch it tonight.
I'm told it's re-airing.
Look, this is such a big story.
You're right, you know, on the inside of all this.
And again, you're quoted in the press as saying that you talked to people in and around Johnson and were saying, oh yeah, he talked about it.
What do the listeners need to know and why is this story so important?
unidentified
Well, as laid out in the book, Johnson really got things started when he turned over the Secret Service policy manual for the protection of the President, Ed Clark, while he was still Vice President.
In effect, he gave him the master plan for protecting the President.
That got Clark started.
He could bring Wallace back into the picture.
Wallace, we know, through other witnesses, recruited shooters to do the job, including Oswald.
We've traced Oswald into the Clark camp through three different sources, and we know that Wallace and Oswald had a practice shot to General Edwin Walker up in Dallas in March of that year.
So all this has been traced back and presented and takes us right up to the assassination day itself, where the crime scene, once you analyze it, and knowing this conspiracy was behind it, you see exactly what happened.
Now, I've been told by former NSA people, by Brown, the mistress, and by others, and I have the Dallas Times Herald photo of them taking him into custody, We know he was behind the knoll.
From your research, was it Harrelson who took the headshot?
unidentified
We have not been able to make that identification yet.
We have several good suspects, but we don't have the kind of evidence we have for Wallace where we've got fingerprints and eyewitnesses that were there.
Number one, have you been threatened in conjunction with this exposé?
And number two, why is this all coming out now with the History Channel and Discovery Channel and huge exposés coming right out with LBJ being involved?
I mean, this is amazing!
unidentified
Well, it is.
And to answer the first question, I haven't been threatened, but a couple of people working with me have had at least some questionable events come up.
As far as why it's coming out now, of course the 40th anniversary is one big reason.
I wasn't able to get it all together and present it in book form until now, but I first started talking about it in 1984 when I put it in an affidavit in Texas courts and it's been around for that long.
It took until 1992 when I had an agent that was interested in the book.
We had to do a lot of research to get the prints together, to get all the other exhibits that are in the book.
And then we had to present it to the government and that was really the toughest time I had because this is going on in the real world and I had to let the Kennedy family know that this had been done and that we were bringing it out.
Obviously, the Warren Commission, the Congress, they all work together with the President to cover this up, to take away the car, to have it refurbished.
Uh, you know, to have it rebuilt, to have all the bullet holes covered up.
I mean, the cover-up goes on and on.
So how does this tie in to the military-industrial complex?
unidentified
Well, what it ties into is a cover-up that was set in place immediately.
It started with the first meeting of the Warren Commission.
It started with J. Edgar Hoover when he assured everyone there was one lone nut.
And some of that's in the book, showing how Clark's hand is there, keeping Ruby quiet and making sure the FBI didn't get investigated for its mistakes.
How this all ties in is at the time there was this general feeling that John Kennedy was trying too hard to compromise things with the Soviet Union.
There were strong people who wanted to keep up a strong defense and not show any signs of weakness.
Emmet, sir, was fired by Kennedy when he wanted to carry out terrorist attacks to be blamed on Cuba.
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And this was all going on and there was a lot of unhappiness.
And you've got to remember now, Big Oil had Plenty of money, and a lot of that had gone into the military-industrial complex.
And Big Oil did not like John Kennedy.
While they were willing to work closely with Lyndon Johnson, I mean, after all, he'd been their lobbyist on the floor of the Senate while he was there, they were really unhappy with John Kennedy.
So when Clark talks to him about having to do something there, he got support.
Let's come back and get into some more evidence and whatever key issues you'd like to cover.
And then I'd like to open the phones up, because we have listeners from upstate New York to California to Austin, Texas, who would like to talk with you.
Is taking calls okay?
All right, folks, your chance to talk to Barr McClellan, an incredible individual, LBJ's personal lawyer, father of the White House Press Secretary.
I mean, he's risked a lot going public here, and this is incredible info.
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Now, coming up in the next 20 minutes, you know, he's going to be with us for this segment, then 20 minutes into the next hour, Next hour, we'll go straight to the loaded phone lines that instantly filled when we gave the number out to talk to Barr McClellan, personal lawyer to LBJ, blowing the whistle about the elements in and out of the government assassinating him 40 years ago.
Well, just a few days short of 40 years ago.
Barr, when I mentioned to you that the military-industrial complex, LL Limitzer, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff, had a terror plan, I have the ABC News, the Baltimore Sun, articles where, and this came out before 9-11, that there was a U.S.
government plan to hijack jets and crash them, bomb D.C., commit sniper attacks, blow up ships, blame it on Cuba as a pretext to start World War III.
Now that's mainstream news.
It says that Lemitzer became enraged at Kennedy.
He fired him.
Now even Frontline on PBS admits that's why Kennedy wanted to get rid of the CIA, get us out of Vietnam.
He'd been a hawk before that, correct me if I'm wrong, And when I mentioned government-sponsored terror, you said that's right.
Can you elaborate on your understanding of this, or are you aware of Northwood's?
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No, I'm not.
And one big reason is that some of that evidence is still being withheld.
That's one of the key questions that we still have ongoing right now, is we need to get this evidence out.
Yesterday at a press conference at the National Press Club, I made another strong call for that.
There's a lot of that going on now.
But the details are there, and we need to see them.
I can't tell you what they are because I haven't seen them.
And my different approach here is I knew what was going on back home, back in Austin, Texas, where the national media and the rest of the public didn't really know what was happening.
The military and their activities that you just mentioned are not something I'm familiar enough with to comment on.
I understand, but in your years of research, have you come upon those links?
Because I'm telling you, there's so many documents, there's a lot I haven't seen, a lot of this is public, and I guess you just haven't come across it yet.
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Well, I know there's a lot out there, but like I say, some of these key ones, like the Special Committee to Advise the President, those records just haven't been disclosed.
I'm just telling you, though, that we know that there were arguments that the Joint Chiefs were mad at him.
We know that happened.
You're saying the particulars of those meetings are still secret.
unidentified
Yes, but we do know that, oh yes, there was this real unhappiness with John Kennedy on the part of the power structure that had been so happy with Dwight Eisenhower.
He, John Kennedy, was trying to make peace.
He was promoting it in several important ways.
The military didn't like it, but the people that really backed the military, these power structures, were opposed to it also.
They deal in a very subtle way with life and they know the fundamentals that they want to see there.
They don't have to worry so much about Vietnam as they have to worry about being really prepared to fight any fight and being ready to do it.
I will, during another break, get your mailing address.
I'm going to send you Northwoods and ABC and Baltimore Sun, but I have the document, sir, where they wanted Kennedy to blow up ships, blow up planes, and blame it on Cuba.
I think this all fits into what I can tell you was going on in this inner sanctum where Johnson and Clark would meet out at the LBJ Ranch in a very secluded place where they could talk.
This is such an incredible interview, Mr. McClellan.
We're so honored to have you.
We're going to break here for one minute, come back and go straight to calls, and anytime you want to jump in with an issue or a piece of information, do it, sir.
We're going to have you again for another 20 minutes into the next hour.
Two more segments, folks, and we'll go straight to your calls, and we get back.
I was 17 years old at the time of the Kennedy assassination.
I thought this was going to be one of these age-old, endless mysteries.
It would never be solved.
The mass media, the network, has been covering this up for years.
I didn't think we'd ever know the truth.
Sunday night, I saw the three segments on the History Channel.
They are unbelievable, mind-blowing, and I'm sure the book must be a lot more informative than the History Channel series because you could never put this information all in a TV program or a movie.
It is absolutely unbelievable, and I would tell your listeners, they need to see the History Channel series, and they need to get the book if they want to find out what really happened.
So you've seen the series, and I just saw it at the TV studio on my own TV show last night, about 10 minutes of it.
Everybody's freaking out over it.
What does it cover?
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Alex, it was so long, it was unbelievable.
It started out with Oswald's mystery.
Who was with him in New Orleans.
She covered Oswald's tie-in with the CIA.
Oswald's early tie-in with Jack Ruby.
How they compounded a cancer virus that was supposedly going to be used against Castro, which I suspect was eventually used on Jack Ruby.
There was an interview later in another part with a He had a doctor who had been a second-year medical student at Parkland Hospital.
The day of the assassination, he was actually leaning up against the presidential limousine, talking to some friends, and noticed a bullet hole in the windshield.
The bullet hole was from the front to the rear, broken out on the back side, the inside of the car.
There are so many elements involved that you have to look at all of them, like a jury's going to look at a case and just see how it does all fit together.
They really wanted to clean up the political system, and then they get stuck in the middle of the 1948 election that Lyndon Johnson steals by voting 202 dead people after the election was over.
Yes, there's a key individual, Ronald Fletcher Prouty, who wrote the book Secret Team, and he was the chief liaison officer between military intelligence and the CIA.
And he says that the CIA did kill Kennedy for all the reasons you mentioned, that he was going to leave Vietnam, he was going to normalize relations with Cuba, he was going to destroy the CIA in his own words, he said he was going to... A thousand pieces.
Yes, and send it to the wind.
Uh, an interesting thing, but an interesting treatment that he got.
He was the Mr. X, incidentally, in the JFK movie by Oliver Stone.
I've seen photos the day of the, supposedly the day of the execution, where Bush was standing behind Johnson and to his left in the photo, and he had such a smug grin on his face.
You know, watching that film of Jack Ruby killing him, the police obviously were ready for it.
They brace him, they hold him up.
I mean, that was an execution.
I mean, your take on it?
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Well, I can't really tell you for sure on that.
My main inquiry was to put together the good, hard facts on what happened on the sixth floor, but what you're saying is certainly possible, and I sure don't rule it out.
Yep.
Yep.
Did you ever research or look at the book High Treason?
We'll talk about the press conference and as the media Some of the media seems to be telling the truth, others seem the same old, you know, ha ha ha, it was a loan nut, anybody that doesn't think that's crazy, I want to talk about that in our little final bonus segment with our guest and maybe jam one or two calls in if we have time.
Bar McClellan is our guest in the book that I suggest all of you get, Blood, Money, and Power, How LBJ Killed JFK, and released last month by Hanover House, 464 pages.
The bookstore's near you, or if it isn't, demand it.
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Our final segment with our guest when we get back.
All right, my friends, we're talking to Bar McClellan, judge's personal attorney.
He's written a new book about, well, blood, money, and power.
How LBJ Killed JFK.
And the dam has broken on this story, as it will on all the other examples of government crime, if people are willing to stand up.
I know we have loaded phones, we only have time for a few of these, but I wanted to No, I haven't, and it's been surprising that nothing at all has come out of them.
The book's been out a while, and also they've known what I've been saying since 98 for sure, and probably 84.
her little mafia here in austin about what she thinks about your book
unidentified
no i haven't and that's been surprising that nothing at all has come out of them
the books that while and also they've known what i've been playing since
ninety eight for sure and uh... probably eighty four that quiet
Well, he can listen out on the FM out there in Radio Free Fredericksburg right by her little ranch.
So, we want to say hi to her.
Interesting lady.
A great match for LBJ, let me tell you, from what I know about her.
What about the press conference?
How did that go?
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It went real well.
We had good attendance.
A lot of the foreign press was there, and we're getting a real interest over there where they understand from their own experience how this can happen.
Over here, the accepted wisdom is we just don't have a banana republic.
We're a strong democracy.
In fact, we have exactly that from what happened back in 1963 and we need to face up to it and do something about it.
How do you, Mr. McClellan, how do you reconcile, and I'm not saying there's any distinction because I haven't read your book yet, your findings with Gregory Douglas, who wrote the Regicide, who basically pointed out He was basically using the records of a deceased head of covert operations for the CIA who indicated that Kennedy had been leaking
secret documents to uh... to the soviet union both perhaps uh... kennedy and his brother robert kennedy told the soviets you better back off because the military may get rid of me and go to war with you we know he did that uh... mister mcclellan yeah mike and mike's uh... looking into uh... what's really at the heart of this thing and you gotta see it from where i could see it and that was from the deep inside from behind the lawyer client privilege and what i'm telling you is how it all came together at the very top The top of the power structure said it's okay for John Kennedy to go.
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