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March 3, 2003 - Alex Jones Show
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The radio broadcast from Alex Jones' show in 2003, with guest Dr. Jim Fetzer, discusses various conspiracy theories surrounding the assassination of John F. Kennedy. These include the CIA's potential involvement, the role of Lyndon B. Johnson and his mistress Madeline Duncan Brown, and the connection between the CIA, Mafia, and government. The show also mentions the Northwood documents that proposed false flag operations to blame on foreign enemies and the Kennedy family's opposition to the Federal Reserve. Additionally, the speakers claim that there was involvement from organized crime groups and the CIA in the plot to kill Kennedy, multiple shooters and shooting locations, and evidence tampering after the assassination. The show hosts believe that the September 11 attacks were used by the Bush administration as a catalyst for implementing their New American Century agenda, accusing them of orchestrating the attacks and using propaganda and manipulation tactics.

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Big Brother.
Mainstream media.
Government cover-ups.
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
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alex jones
Dotting the landscape from coast to coast with wonderful AMI.
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affiliates, simulcasting on the internet, and on global shortwave, and also on four powerful satellites.
I'm Alex Jones, and we are joined by our guest, Dr. Jim Fetzer.
The website, AssassinationScience.com.
We have a link to it on Infowars.com.
I know we have John, and David, and Pat, and Tom, and many others.
Holden, we'll get to your calls early in this hour.
I'll do a Part 2 interview with Dr. Fetzer is a professor from beautiful Duluth, Minnesota.
Back on with me in the noon hour, Central Friday.
We're also riding shotgun with us for as long as he'd like to.
Another host here on the network, syndicated talk show host in his own right, Erskine with Erskine Overnight.
And I haven't even gotten to a lot of the news, so then I have to throw these news items out and get responses from our guests and the listeners on that.
As well.
The tyranny is hitting us from every side.
It's dizzying at a certain point.
Dr. Fetzer, good to have you on the show, sir.
unidentified
It's my great pleasure.
alex jones
We're going to talk about the Kennedy assassination and how it ties into 9-1-1.
I've made this point.
You've made this point.
We'll talk about Northwood.
We'll talk about who really killed Kennedy.
The ridiculousness of it.
The fact that it was the government up one side and down the other.
And we'll tie it all together and we'll take the calls.
Let's bring Erskine back up.
Erskine interviewed you and it took two hours just to cover some of the information.
Saturday night, again, we're honored to have you here.
Erskine, where's a good place to start with Dr. Fetzer on this whole Kennedy assassination?
erskine
Well, the thing is, it happened 40 years ago.
This is old news.
Who cares about it?
Well, I'll tell you, you better care about it, because this was a coup d'etat of the United States government.
They had an overthrow of the government, and the same people behind what happened then are now taking over today.
The CIA was in large part behind that, and they put out so much disinformation.
People running around saying, You know, we had Lee Harvey Oswald who did that all by himself.
One lone gunman.
Yeah, right.
If you buy that, then let's talk about the Easter Bunny and some other things.
Absolutely, totally ridiculous.
People were buying it at the time.
Talk about your government lies.
Cover up disinformation.
This isn't where it started, but this is where a lot started.
Now, anybody who is Brave and courageous enough to overthrow the United States government by killing the President will not stop at a 9-1-1 or anything else.
And it's the very same... These people are totally ruthless, totally power hungry, and now they've got it to where the American public is waving the flag and waving their rights.
It's the exact same crowd, and that's it.
The same military industrial complex.
that have killed the constitution is the exact same crowd that have totally changed our country.
alex jones
It's the exact same crowd and that's it. The same military industrial complex.
The serial killers are getting grittier and grittier.
Dr. Butzer, what's really going on here?
Who are we facing?
james h fetzer
Well, I think the key here, Alex, is something Erskine alluded to, namely the capacity to cover it up.
because if you can falsify x-ray substitute someone else's brain for the brain
of the president united states if you can reshoot the autopsy photographs if
you can alter the home movies and and photographs of the assassination
uh... you can you have the capacity to do the the american people
about the assassination of their own president in broad daylight in a major
city in the united states you have an awesome kind of power and that's what was exercised
in the case of twenty two november nineteen sixty three and it's precisely
because they were able to get away with such a blatant active deception
that i think that the powerful forces involved here have been emboldened to
perpetrate other similar deeds and to cover them up And there's a few dates, you know, key dates.
alex jones
1913 Federal Reserve Act, 1933 War Powers Act, 1947 National Security Act.
Uh, and then of course we have what happened in 1963 with the Northwoods document.
This is part of the Kennedy assassination.
It's all coming up with Dr. Jim Fetzer.
The website, you'll want to check it out.
It is AssassinationScience.com.
We have a link to it on InfoWars.com.
Riding shotgun with me is Erskine.
And your call is coming up with our guest, who will be right back.
Stay with us.
You do not want to miss the next 55 minutes.
unidentified
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Big brother.
alex jones
Mainstream media.
james h fetzer
Government cover-ups.
unidentified
You want answers?
Well, so does he.
He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones
Couple of the headlines here, Associated Press.
Jennifer L. Brown, bioterrorism test set for rural Oklahoma.
They claimed they were going to cancel it.
Now they're back with a vengeance.
It says the test is risk-free and may one day save lives, the government says.
We're not here to stir up unwanted fear and anxiety in the community.
Federal officials sent letters to about 600 residents living in three testing areas around Oklahoma City telling them not to worry.
They see a crop dust remaining.
dust puffs over their heads. And about 10 of the 20 articles I've seen in the AP and
the Norman papers and the Daily Oklahoma, they said, "We are going to be spraying you
with the Bracillus throngensis, which can be dangerous for you, but that's okay." But
now they don't mention it in this article. And then another interesting article, "New
scientists, stupidity should be curved, says DNA Discoverer."
Yeah, and he also last month called for a national DNA database.
They want to go ahead and start engineering us.
Before birth.
Licensing.
See, this is the brave new world.
It's all part of culture shock.
They're trying to overwhelm us with every form of bizarre tyranny and then say that we're crazy because we don't want to go along with it.
Just some key info to throw out there.
Let's go to Dr. Jim Fetzer, expert on the Kennedy assassination and the facts that this government was overthrown with a total military coup d'etat because Kennedy had issued an executive order to get us out of the Federal Reserve.
He issued Lincoln Greenbacks with a red seal on them, debt-free money.
He was getting us out of Vietnam and said he was going to abolish the CIA in a given speech just saying a dark force had taken over the government.
And he also stood up to the Northwoods document, the U.S.
government plan, with unanimous support up to his level, to blow up jet airliners, commit sniper attacks, bomb D.C., to blame it on foreign enemies.
And we're riding shotgun is our good buddy Erskine with Erskine Overnight, Saturday nights here on the GCN Radio Network.
Great show, incredible guest.
We've got a lot of callers holding.
We'll get to you later.
Stay there.
Dr. Fetzer, just go over the basics here.
The Bushies, they're involved in Texas.
All of them.
Give us just the rundown of the proof of the fraud of the story they put out with Arlen Specter and the rest of it.
james h fetzer
Well, it's an enormous, sprawling, complex story, Alex.
I think something everyone needs to understand is that George Herbert Walker Bush, who became President No.
41, appears to have had a long history with the CIA, well before he was appointed as director, which of course was done with great public fanfare, claiming that this was the first time that a civilian Who hadn't had a history with the agency, had been, had received such... Just out of nowhere!
Just out of nowhere, but of course it appears to be poppycock.
There are telling signs that Bush was intimately involved in the planning of the invasion of Cuba, the Bay of Pigs fiasco, where in fact it turns out the Soviets had learned a week before the assassination the precise date at which it would take place.
The CIA had learned they knew and told everyone they wanted, but not the President of the United States, the guy who most importantly needed to know.
Two of the ships were rechristened the Barbara and the Houston before the invasion.
The plan had a codename, Operation Zapata, which happened to be the family oil-drigging operation for the Bush family out of Houston.
And I believe that if, in fact, the operation had been a success, they would have oil-drilling concessions all over the Caribbean Basin.
Documents were later revealed that showed that George Bush or the CIA had been briefed on the Bay of Pigs.
And when the agency was confronted with this, they denied it, saying it was another George Bush.
Well, there was another George Bush who worked for the agency, but he was a guy who sorted out files and would not have been receiving reports on operations being conducted by the agency.
All this is disturbing enough, but the fact is, That the military played a crucial role here.
In fact, if you want the bottom line on the assassination, the research I've been engaged in with some of the best qualified people to ever study the case for the last 10 years indicates that the Secret Service set him up, the CIA, the Mafia, and the military took him out, and the FBI covered it up, where the whole thing was uh... orchestrated for the benefit of lyndon johnson and j_
edgar hoover finance with financing from wealthy texas oilman
the motives were primarily three one was to get in place the policies of lyndon
johnson over those of j_f_k_ including going to war in vietnam uh... another was to uh...
uh... blame it on the cubans cataract was being sheep dipped in a pony person
persona as a pro-castro right uh... even a trip you know i like just like mcveigh
jetty it up an imaginary trip to mexico to the key to the uh... to the uh...
cuban embassy was staged and in fact they have photographs of the person was
pretending to be odd well which doesn't look remotely like him
They had tape recordings, which didn't sound at all like him.
And J. Edgar Hoover, of all people, actually distributed A memo to his agents in charge of the different operations for the FBI that someone was impersonating him in Mexico City.
Well, the very existence of such a document that somebody else was impersonating Oswald implies the existence of a conspiracy when he turns out to be the guy they're going to nail for the assassination.
Oswald himself actually appears to be on the second floor.
He was observed before noon, at noon, at 12.15, at 12.25, down and around the lunchroom.
He was confronted there by a motorcycle patrolman within 90 seconds of the assassination.
He was perfectly normal.
He wasn't out of breath.
When he later left the building, he actually boarded the bus to head back to his rooming house.
When the bus became clogged down in traffic, he exited the bus and went for a taxi.
A little old lady wired the taxi, and Oswald graciously offered it to her.
Must be the first time in history when an assassin has made his escape by public transportation.
alex jones
Well, it goes on and on, but that's all just the little extra niblets here on the side.
Let's get into the assassination itself, and LBJ papers that morning already running the headline that he would be dumped by JFK, and then on top of it, That's absolutely right, Alex.
james h fetzer
Richard Nixon was in town.
In fact, the night before there had been a social event at the home of Clint Murkison, one of the really rich and powerful oilmen in Texas at the time.
An interesting cast.
The characters were there.
H. L. Hunt was there, who described himself as the richest man in the world and may well have been.
J. Edgar Hoover was there.
He frequently came to Texas with Hobnob with these rich fat cats.
In fact, these guys thought of themselves as the power center of the United States because their oil gave them so much leverage and influence over politics.
George Brown of Brown and Root, heavy construction, now a subsidiary of Halliburton, he was there.
When the Vietnam War went down, Brown and Root got the contract to dredge a new bay at Cam Ranh.
Cam Ranh Bay, even though Vietnam has many magnificent ports, and they surely could have found an alternative that didn't cost a billion bucks.
Richard Nixon was there.
Madeline Duncan Brown, a mistress of Lyndon Johnson, by whom he had a son born in 1950.
alex jones
And I've interviewed her.
She...Lyndon came right out with all this to her.
james h fetzer
Yeah, he did.
He did.
I'm getting right to that, too.
You're exactly right, Alex.
Uh, Lyndon showed up late that night and these heavy hitters disappeared into a conference room.
About 15 minutes later, when they broke up, he strode over to Madeleine and she thought he was going to whisper sweet nothings in her ear.
Instead, he said, in a hateful tone of voice, that after tomorrow he wasn't going to have to put up with embarrassment from those Kennedy boys.
On New Year's Eve, six weeks later, they had a rendezvous in the Driscoll Hotel in Austin, Texas, and she confronted him with rumors rampant in Dallas at the time that he'd been involved since no one stood to gain more personally.
He blew up at her and told her, Alex, that the oil boys and the CIA had decided that Jack had to be taken out.
Lyndon's involvement has been corroborated by Billy Solasty's Wheeler-Dealer, involved in a lot of scandals that made a lot of money for Lyndon, John Connolly and their cronies.
And he has given an interview with a French investigative reporter, William Raymond, that appeared in a French magazine whose title translates to Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Saying that Lyndon was in deep trouble.
He thought his political career was over.
Jack, in fact, had already decided to drop him.
There was going to be a vote on the Bobby Baker scandal.
Bobby had been his Chief Administrative Assistant during the, when he was Majority Leader in the Senate.
And that vote was widely expected to tarnish Lyndon so badly that Jack couldn't possibly run with him again.
But what Billy Paul added was that Lyndon had Cliff Carter, his Chief Administrative Assistant, then come down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place for the assassination.
alex jones
Let's talk about the shooting itself.
And Erskine, anytime you want to jump in, go ahead.
erskine
Oh yeah, I think one of the key things is, as Dr. Fetzer alludes to, is the connection between the CIA, the Mafia, and the government, how they all were in bed together.
alex jones
Well, they've always been in bed.
erskine
This is a very important, significant part of the story that Dr. Fetzer has brought out.
james h fetzer
That's absolutely right.
I mean, it goes back to Eisenhower.
In the waning days of the Eisenhower administration, when Castro had come to power, Eisenhower was apparently very upset about this.
And he told the Joint Chiefs, in particular Lyman Lemnitzer, who is the chairman, that if they didn't have a legitimate reason for invading Cuba, they should make one up.
Lemnitzer apparently took this to heart and solicited the assistance of of Edward Lansdale, who was a one-star Air Force general at the time.
Lansdale would become famous for assassinations all around the world.
He was a very clever guy.
he had a big role in vietnam with a fortified hamlet concept which involved
turning these agrarian communities in vietnam into castle-like entities as though they had a moat around them
but lambsdale and others came up with schemes such as loading commercial
airliner full of college students flying it over cuba and shooting it down
or blowing up the atlas rocket that was going to take john glenn into space and
blaming it on the cubans jack was very dismayed by all these proposals
alex jones
That's Northwood's plan.
james h fetzer
This is the Operation Northwood's exactly right.
He was very disturbed by all this and had them all turned down.
In fact, the Joint Chiefs became increasingly dismayed and felt that Jack had betrayed them on several levels.
For one, he had not supported a military invasion of Cuba, which they had unanimously supported.
alex jones
Let me stop you, Docker.
By the way, unless anybody thinks all these are good guys doing what they have to do to fight communism, these very corporations the whole time were shipping weapons and oil and money through the communists.
This was just their enemy they were going to use for their excuse for global domination.
Go ahead.
james h fetzer
This is just like Halliburton in Iraq.
Alex, as you well know, Cheney did a lot of business with Iraq.
Rumsfeld went to Iraq and was very supportive of chemical and biological weapons.
alex jones
He's also the bad man with nuke material, the official material to North Korea and Pakistan.
james h fetzer
This is all very, very serious stuff.
But going back to Cuba, the chiefs were also upset because John had signed an above ground test ban treaty with the Soviet Union, which they unanimously opposed.
And now he was pulling our troops out of Vietnam where they thought we had to stand and fight communism.
So it wasn't difficult for the chiefs to arrive at the conclusion.
And they were already over the deep edge as well portrayed by the motion picture Dr. Strangelove.
alex jones
Dr. Fetzer, of course, you were a Marine Corps captain in Vietnam as well.
james h fetzer
I wasn't in them, but I was an artillery officer in the Corps at the time.
alex jones
All right, I was going over your bio.
Stay right there and we will be right back.
With our guest, Dr. Jim Fetzer.
And just keep riding along with us, Erson, because I know you've got that clip, too, that ties into the Kennedy assassination.
And yes, we'll get to your calls, so stay with us.
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alex jones
Alright, Dr. Spatz is going to stay with us for the full hour.
Erskine, who I really appreciate joining us, has this clip of when he interviewed someone involved.
I understand the CIA brags that they go into all these countries and use organized crime as a buffer, plus they understand The lay of the land and a ruthless and describe this clip you've got for us Erskine and then play it for us and we'll go back to Dr. Petzer.
erskine
Okay, the clip that I'm going to play, and Dr. Fessler's heard it before, is from Bill Bonanno, who was the archetype for Sonny Corleone in the Godfather show.
Bill knew nothing about and had no connection to the Kennedy assassination.
It seems like it was the Giancana group out of Chicago that was hired in large part by the CIA to do the assassination within the country.
It's one of the reasons it was so good, but Dr. Fetzer has a lot of information about this up on his website.
He has a lot of information at AssassinationScience.com.
And you can also get his book, Murder in Dealey Plaza.
But this is from the Godfather, Bill Bonanno, from Erskine Overnight.
And I think you'll hear on this exactly what happened on the Kennedy assassination from the Godfather.
I hope I can get that clip up for you, Alex.
alex jones
And again, folks, there's just mountains of evidence.
Go ahead.
erskine
Oh, here it is.
unidentified
I can say, as I've detailed in one of the chapters in the book, of how I came into this information as to what was happening, what had happened in Dallas on that day.
And I was in the Federal Correctional Institution of Terminal Island in San Pedro, California, and we were sitting around the yard with a bunch of fellows, some Cubans, and a fellow by the name of Johnny Roselli.
and johnny roselli uh... this was in january february of nineteen seventy
one and johnny ed that was very upset with some of the people
in his uh... his organization back in chicago and was saying things that he
shouldn't have been saying among them was
you know those uh... those guys left me out the dry I was in the manhole.
It took me 20 minutes to walk the labyrinth underneath, the tunnels underneath to get to the Trinity River.
It was my shot that got Jack and they left me hanging out to dry.
I'll never forgive them.
When some of us heard this, you know, this was the kind of information that was really a burden and nobody wanted to have this information because it was long over.
It was long over.
Sixty-three was the number of years before that.
But I've been asked many times, do you believe that to be true?
And I said, of course I believe it to be true.
And they asked me why I believe it to be true, because I knew who I was talking with.
Here we're talking to a guy by the name of Johnny Roselli, who was involved in the St.
Valentine's Day Massacre.
He was one of the shooters in that.
Why wouldn't I believe a man who has that kind of a background?
Plus, we knew each other from the streets.
erskine
Now that's from Bill Bonanno when he was on Earthkin Overnight, and the other thing that he said that I thought was so telling was Jack Rubenstein, who he knew as, everyone knows as Jack Ruby, was as close to Sam Giancana as his pinky ring.
Now, if you look at this, you look at the cover-up, you look at the FBI and how that J. Edgar Hoover said there never was a mafia, and the whole story behind all of this, it all combines in, doesn't it, Jim?
No, indeed it does.
alex jones
How many times have we been lied to? Erskine, I want to thank you for joining us.
God bless you. You're on Saturday nights. Tell them the show time.
erskine
It is on Saturday nights. It's 11 o'clock Mountain Time.
Let's see, it goes on at...
alex jones
11 o'clock Central.
erskine
11 o'clock Central.
alex jones
All right.
erskine
Catch us on Genesis Network.
If we're not on your station, ask for us to be on.
We'll be on there shortly.
Thank you, Alex Jones.
alex jones
God bless you.
Doctor, that's a good place to bring in the movie star's father because he was caught by the Dallas Morning Herald, a photograph.
He's in prison for shooting a judge in the neck with a .243.
Photographs were taken of him at the scene.
He told people he was involved and later he got up.
Tell us about Mr. Harrelson.
james h fetzer
Yes, yes.
Well, just to give you my access route into this thing, I got to know the third of the three tramps, a fellow named Chauncey Holt, who had a long history with organized crime.
Chauncey was a forger and a counterfeiter who was asked to prepare 15 sets of phony Secret Service credentials for use in and around Dealey Plaza.
He brought them there.
He was also instructed that he was going to meet up with a couple of individuals, and he brought Uh, he had a phony ID for them, too, which was tobacco, firearms, and alcohol ID, and weapons.
Those he met up with included Charles Harrison, the father of Woody, the actor, and a fellow he knew as Richard Montoya, who appears to have been Carl Rogers, who is the subject of the book, The Man on the Grassy Knoll.
Rogers appears to have murdered his parents with disposing of the bodies by flushing them down the toilet in small pieces when the police caught up with him, but he was a step or two ahead of them and they were unable to catch him.
But Chauncey said that they were all instructed to head for a boxcar behind the grassy knoll after the event, which he had told was going to be a non-violent The Genesis Communications Radio Network proudly presents the Alex Jones Show.
alex jones
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alex jones
and all right until we have to have a backup right away this
will be over a couple hours on friday because there's so much evidence
But getting into Harrelson, I mean, I've got the photograph out of the Dallas Morning News.
There were a bunch of photos of him taken with the three bums.
These clearly aren't bums, they're serious mafia-looking wasps.
Uh, with, uh, you know, in the trench coats, uh, shifty-eyed, walking around from behind the grassy knoll, uh, continuing with Mr. Harrelson, who's in...
Federal prison for an infamous crime killing a federal judge.
Go ahead.
james h fetzer
That's right.
That's absolutely right.
Well, Tom, he told me there were quite an assortment of characters in Dealey Plaza on this late morning, afternoon, including a lot of mercenaries, assassins, and killers for hire.
He said there were more bad guys there than you'd meet at a Soldiers of Fortune convention.
That's how he put it, and I think a lot of them were there as distractions, so that if somebody started looking at this case seriously, they'd have so many loose ends and leads to follow that it would be massively confusing.
But in any case, yes, what happened was when they got down to the railway car, They were told it would look as though it was locked, but actually it would be open.
It did look locked, but it was open.
They climbed in and discovered there were lots of weapons and explosives in the car.
Later, when they were being escorted through Dealey Plaza and Chauncey thought about it, it occurred to him that it might have been the case that if the original plan for the Patsy hadn't worked out, that they might have been taken and used as the fallback Patsys.
The CIA always had multiple plans.
Well, what's absolutely crucial here, I think, Alex, is the military involvement.
Chauncey told me that he thought the whole execution in Dealey Plaza had The aspects of the military operation about it.
The 112th Military Intelligence Unit, which ought to have been distributed throughout the city to control the crowd, during the entire motorcade, had been ordered to step down.
That required a high-level command.
The officer in charge, in fact, protested vehemently, but was nevertheless overruled.
alex jones
Let me stop you.
Harrelson also said that, yeah, I did it, then later shut up.
Won't you make that... You're absolutely right.
james h fetzer
Harrelson did at one point claim that he had killed Jack Kennedy, by which I Take it he meant he fired the shot that entered Jack's right temple.
This was a frangible or exploding bullet that set up shockwaves that blew much of his brains and skull out the back of his head, which had been weakened by another shot fired from the Dow Tax Building that entered the back of his head.
This is after the driver, by the way, Alex, had brought the limousine to a halt, which took place after bullets had begun to be fired.
I mean, this was such an obvious indication of Secret Service complicity that the movies of the assassination had to be altered to take it out, so that instead of seeing You know, bring the limo to a halt.
Roy Cooley, Oswald's supervisor in the Book Depository, for example, observed that turning the corner from Houston on to Elm, that the driver, William Gird, swung out too widely and nearly hit a concrete abutment.
And then he had to swing back into line, and that when he started down into Dealey Plaza, he pulled the limo into the left and halted.
And I think he pulled it to the left to get Jackson Jackson a little more exposed to the multiple positions from which shooters were firing.
Which appear to have been at least six in number.
Jack actually was hit at least four times, and John Connolly appears to have been hit as many as three.
So there were a lot, and there were what appear to be three missed shots.
alex jones
And by the way, Connolly always said that.
He said, one bullet didn't hit me all these times.
james h fetzer
Yeah.
Connolly and his wife Nellie always insisted he wasn't hit by the same bullet.
And in fact, Jack had already been hit.
Big John was turning back to his right, but couldn't see what was going on.
He turned to his left, and that's when he felt this doubling up.
And by turning to his left, When he was hit on the right side of his back, that shot could well have been fired from the south-west corner of the book depository, not the northeast where Oswald was alleged to have been located.
alex jones
Unbelievable.
Getting back to the military, LBJ was paying particular attention to the Secret Service transmissions that day.
james h fetzer
That's absolutely right.
Ralph Yarborough was riding with him.
In fact, there had been a big argument that morning over who should ride with the President of the United States.
Lyndon wanted Ralph Yarborough, his liberal political uh... opponent to ride with jack kennedy but jack overrode
him overruled him on the ground of the chief executive of the state ought to
ride with the chief executive of the united states and i believe that that's
just this change in plan simply occurred too late for the assassins
to be notified so that when they were shooting a connelly they also are they
they actually intended to be shooting at yarborough
and it gives new meaning to connelly's calling out my god they're going to
alex jones
kill us all unbelievable
Unbelievable.
james h fetzer
Oh, sorry.
Also, as I was mentioning, was actually down on the second floor in the lunchroom waiting for a phone call, I think, that never came.
The weapon he was alleged to have used couldn't even have fired the bullets that killed the President because he was killed by the impact of high-velocity bullets.
That's what his death certificate, the Warren Commission concluded, and other studies have shown.
And the Mannlicher Carcano, with a muzzle velocity of only 2,000 feet per second, was not a high-velocity weapon.
So it couldn't have inflicted the rounds.
Plus, it used copper-jacketed ammunition, not exploding bullets.
You have multiple shooters, multiple locations.
One shooter appears to be at the south end of the triple underpass.
They were there above ground sewer openings where a man could stand upright with a little concealment at the top.
A perfect shooting location.
That appears to have been the location for a shot that actually passed through the windshield on its way to Jack's throat where it then fragmented apart going upward and rupturing this tough membrane over a compact part of the brain at the base called the cerebellum.
The membrane is known as the tentorum.
uh... a bullet that when it passed through the windshield making it sound just like a firecracker
alex i've got a guy down the south is going to old junkyards and firing bullets through
windshields and it turns out they sound just like a firecracker and of course a lot of witnesses said that the first shot
sounded different than the others it sounded like a firecracker
but they appear to have been hearing actually what let's talk about the car
alex jones
because i was watching discovery channel and they actually admitted this but just passed
right over it all the evidence not just his brain his body and x-rays
but the car itself Describe what happened to it.
james h fetzer
The vehicle itself was taken back to Ford Motor Company in Michigan already Monday.
It was stripped down to bare metal and the windshield was replaced.
We actually tracked down the guy who replaced the windshield and confirmed that it had a through-and-through bullet hole in it.
Of course, this was a crime scene on wheels where all kinds of evidence was being destroyed there outright.
Lyndon had the thing rebuilt and repainted black.
Rather than the midnight blue that Jack Kennedy preferred, but he never wrote in it.
It was massive destruction of evidence.
alex jones
They took it to Ford and broke the whole thing down, stripped it down to bare bones, and rebuilt it, and they kept using it.
james h fetzer
Paid Ford a million bucks for it.
Yeah, it was in the President's, you know, fleet of limos, but Lyndon never actually wrote in that one again.
Interestingly, right after the shooting had taken place, you know, and Greer drove to Parkland Hospital, we have photographs of Secret Service agents getting a bucket and a sponge and starting to wash the blood and brains out of the limousine already, and the President hadn't even yet been pronounced dead.
unidentified
That's incredible.
alex jones
It's just unbelievable, and it goes on and on and on.
How were the people on the Warren Commission rewarded?
james h fetzer
Well, It was an interesting lineup.
There were a couple of senior senators.
There was no one on the commission, by the way, who had any political sympathies with Jack Kennedy.
I mean, the only person who was not really rather conservative was the Chief Justice himself, Earl Warren.
And Lyndon had strong-armed him into taking that position.
I mean, if you think about it, it's ridiculous for him to have been serving in that capacity.
If they'd actually done their job and there had been any indictments or a real investigation conducted, then the case, no doubt, would have made its way through the court system and eventually come to court.
alex jones
Well, look at what the clerk, the inspector got, Senator for Life.
Look at what Ford got.
james h fetzer
Yeah, Ford became President of the United States, of course, and Ford was actually the The FBI's man on the commission, he would notify J. Edgar Hoover what directions they were going so Hoover could make sure that he would slap the evidence the way he wanted to to support a predetermined conclusion.
Ford actually was responsible for changing the description of a location of a wound which was about five and a half inches below Jack's collar.
This appears to have been fired from the top of the county records building.
At a downward angle, 45 to 60 degrees, a shallow shot only went in about as far as the second knuckle on your little finger.
He had that description changed to the base of the back of the neck so that it would make the all-inspector's magic bullet theory, the idea that one of these bullets had traversed Jackson there, come out his throat and gone into John Connolly, more plausible.
alex jones
And then the bullet wasn't even bent up.
Anybody that's done a lot of shooting like I have, I mean, you fire bullets in the water, there's more damage to it.
james h fetzer
Well, it's ridiculous.
Not only did they assume an impossibility, namely that a bullet could have passed through the neck without hitting any cervical vertebrae, which turned out to be an anatomical impossibility, but the wounds in Conley were multiple.
He had a shattered rib.
He had a busted wrist.
I mean, these are hard, bony impacts that would have deformed a bullet.
This bullet, nevertheless, as you observe, which they claim to have done all this damage, It was virtually pristine.
It had some slight longitudinal deformity just like other test bullets that were fired by the Warren Commission or the House Select Committee when it reinvestigated the case in 1970-78 into wads of cotton or buckets of water.
It was as though it hadn't hit anything.
alex jones
And it goes on and on, and before we go, these calls I've been holding patiently.
How does it all tie to 9-1-1?
Because it certainly does.
james h fetzer
Well, the fact is that Oswald, being given this phony persona as a pro-Castro communist sympathizer, was supposed to lead to the American people rising up and demanding a military invasion of Cuba, that we do it right this time.
Lyndon knew enough to know that they had tactical nuclear weapons, and he scared them away, but he gave them the war in Vietnam, so it didn't play out the way the chiefs had planned.
But strewn throughout American history, Alex, we find incidents where phony events have been used as a pretext to get Americans into war.
The most recent being in 1991 when this young Kuwaiti girl appeared before Congress and later the United Nations to claim that she'd seen Iraqi soldiers coming into hospitals and taking infants out of incubators and leaving them there to die.
It was very emotional and very touching, except it turns out to have been untrue.
She was in fact the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador To the United States.
She had never been to Iraq, and she had been trained to do this by a public relations firm.
Now in relation to 9-1-1, even the House and Senate's own joint investigation led to the conclusion that the government had to have known what was coming.
In fact, Arlen Specter announced that they didn't just have vague impressions, they didn't just have dots to connect, but they actually had blueprints of what was taking place.
The amount of time the planes were in the air and the complete lack of response.
I mean, it's not as though... Well, they had to tell us that.
alex jones
At first they said nothing, then the evidence came out, and they... Spectre, oh, but it's a big accident.
Give us more funding.
james h fetzer
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But when you think about it, Alex, no one knew yet what had gone wrong.
There'd been no investigation by the government.
How can you have a solution to a problem if you don't know what the problem is?
And of course, from the government's point of view, the most charitable interpretation you could give is that the CIA and the FBI had all these massive communications and mock-ups but they weren't even included in the Homeland
Security Department reorganization. Plus a plane that flew into
Pennsylvania appears to have been shot down by our own people. The dispute was
distributed over six to eight square miles but it should have been distributed over
about a city block.
Several witnesses have reported seeing a mysterious white plane with no
markings that circled around after the plane crashed.
Lots of the citizens out there reported hearing an explosion, but the FBI, when it was investigated, didn't want to hear about it and apparently didn't write it down.
alex jones
Well, it's just like TWA, but the people behind this New World Order You know, it's the Rothschilds, it's the Rockefellers, it's all those classic names, and they've got their little minion servant families, like the Bushes, who are really Sachs-Coburgs.
That's what the British royal family really is, is German.
And we've just got hereditary mafia gangs running the entire country, and now they want it all.
How do we stop them?
james h fetzer
Well, I'll tell you, Alex, we've got to get this group out of office.
I mean, these are not Republicans and these are not Democrats.
I mean, if you think about a traditional Republican agenda, it includes balanced budgets, it includes constitutional government, it includes non-interventionist foreign policy.
These people are contradicting all of that.
The key players seem to include Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Eliot Abrams, Richard Perle, even Bill Kristol, the conservative commentator, who all were participants in planning what is known as the new American century.
If you go on my website and just scroll down to the Bush plan, that will take you directly to the... That was written in 2000 and it says global domination.
alex jones
It says, quote, Saddam is a pretext.
james h fetzer
That's absolutely right.
alex jones
Written by them!
That's right.
james h fetzer
Written by them, and now they're in place.
And in fact, the Bush administration is using it as a map for what they should do.
The amount of money, in terms of a national defense, increases exactly the amount of money that Bush is budgeting for next year.
And the idea of dominating the world by going to the Middle East and taking control is a key precept.
of this this plan for the new world order which appears to have its roots in
term the book published in nineteen ninety seven by the big brzezinski
entitled the grand chess board where the big talks about a little girl are more of them
alex jones
Pardon?
Well, he says we need a Pearl Harbor event to unify the people behind the war for global imperial conquest.
james h fetzer
That's right, Alex.
He says the American people, you know, support democracy and they're not going to support American imperialism unless they have some event like Pearl Harbor take place.
And isn't it a remarkable coincidence that 9-1-1 should occur just at the time the Bush administration most needs it?
The economy's in the toilet, the deficit is massive, Uh, the Bush political program is going nowhere.
alex jones
They're raiding pension funds and corporations.
We'll stick a call.
Thanks for holding, John, in Indiana.
You're on the air.
Go ahead, sir.
Appreciate you holding, John.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Yes, Alex, and your guest.
I'm sorry, this kind of is not... It's okay.
alex jones
It's all connected.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Yes, hello?
alex jones
It's all connected, go ahead.
unidentified
It is connected.
Heads up to your listeners, if they, in different time zones, want to tape Oprah, or if they can't, I advise them today.
She had a guest on there, a man named Michael Moore, who totally demonized the people who believe in the Second Amendment.
alex jones
Our constitutional rights, and it was a movie that he's made called the... Yeah, Bowling for Columbine, and he'll expose Bush on 9-1-1 and say, give us your guns.
Yeah, exactly what we need to do.
Give our guns to a government that's setting up a dictatorship.
unidentified
Yes, but really people should see it.
I was talking with the TV and there was no counterpoint there to ask the important questions.
alex jones
Alright, thanks for the call, sir.
I'm aware of it.
Let's talk to Pat.
Well, actually, next is Tom.
Tom in Wisconsin.
Tom, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hello?
alex jones
Yes, Tom.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hello?
alex jones
Hello!
You're on the air, sir.
Okay, didn't look like that's going to work.
Let's talk to Dominique in Texas.
Dominique, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
Listen, really quickly, I had you guys send a A truth out letter on Friday from a U.S.
diplomat, John Brady Keisling, who has just resigned.
Yes.
alex jones
And there's a letter... How would the plan to tap the telephones in Iran?
james h fetzer
I've got it here, Alex.
He's making a great point.
Here's part of his letter says...
We have not seen such systematic distortion of intelligence, such systematic manipulation of American opinions since the war in Vietnam.
The September 11th tragedy left us stronger than before, rallying around us a vast international coalition to cooperate for the first time in a systematic way against the threat of terrorism.
But rather than take credit for those successes and build on them, this administration has chosen to make terrorism a domestic political tool, enlisting a scattered and largely defeated Al-Qaeda as its bureaucratic ally.
alex jones
You were talking about the communique that got intercepted where the CIA and folks are tapping and manipulating there at the UN trying to steer through this war resolution.
james h fetzer
This guy is a political counselor for the American Embassy in Greece who has resigned and points out we should ask why we have failed to persuade more of the world that such a war with Iraq is necessary.
We have over the past two years done too much to assert our world partners that narrow and mercenary US interests overrode the cherished values of our partners.
Even where our aims were not in question, our consistency is an issue.
The model of Afghanistan is little comfort to allies wondering on what basis we plan to rebuild the Middle East and who's in whose image and interest.
alex jones
All right, we got a break.
We'll be right back.
And I know haulers have been holding a while and that causes problems sometimes.
People to be by the phone when we go to them.
Come back, try to take a few extra calls and hit some other key areas of information.
Stay with us.
unidentified
From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones
We'll be back tonight, 9 to midnight, Central Standard Time on your local AM or FM or simulcasting
vehicle.
We'll shortwave at 5.085 and 6890 during the day at 12.172 and 9320.
And coming up Friday, Dr. Jim Fetz will be joining us for at least an hour and a half.
We can really put the phone number out for folks who want to talk about the Kennedy assassination because if you're going to have a military coup, you know, they're not going to stop.
That's the problem with tyranny.
And it just gets worse and worse and worse, and they're shoving us around, treating us like trash.
The Patriot Act, too, by its very definition, you use a dictatorship, and you've literally got an hereditary person now in control.
The Sachs-Koburg cousin, the Bushes, you can't get any more blue blood than this.
Literal British-slash-German royalty family.
I'm not kidding.
You can't write You know, fiction is bizarre.
They're worth hundreds of billions of dollars.
No one even knows their real wealth.
They're absolutely out of control, and they're just mid-level minions in this whole thing.
A final overview.
How do we stop this, people?
What do you think their grand plan is, even though we know it's stated?
And do you see America resisting this, or just getting worse and worse and worse, with the globalists using terrorism to get total control?
Dr. Fetzer.
james h fetzer
Oh, God, I'll tell you.
We gotta get these people out of office, Alex, and the sooner the better.
alex jones
They're paying for electronic touchscreens going in.
james h fetzer
Yeah, it's frightening.
It appears that Georgia, for example, the outcome of the election was controlled electronically through these voting machines that Chuck Hagel had illegitimate victories in Nebraska because he's a part owner of these companies that own it.
Diebold is one of them, and of course all these ties with the military-industrial complex.
alex jones
I mean, how do they get away with this?
james h fetzer
That's a hell of a good question.
I mean, you know, one thing that was done here in this last election was to not use exit polling.
I've been reassured, thinking about the forthcoming election, that the exit polls would tell us whether the elections were legitimate or not.
And when the Voter News Service shut down their exit polling, I had a shudder of apprehension.
alex jones
You don't know about DNS?
That was shut up under another name, ILBJ, one month after Kennedy got it.
Did you know that?
james h fetzer
I've always been a pro.
But I'll tell you, we cannot use electronic voting machines.
They're going to steal us.
They're going to steal our democracy.
Stalin observed that it doesn't matter who casts the votes, it matters who counts them.
alex jones
Well, Professor, you know, it's a constitutional republic.
And Bush uses this word democracy over and over again until it's like a drug-like opiate, but I... I mean, certainly, even under their terms, not a democracy, what they're setting up.
It's a command-and-control, Madison Avenue-driven fraud system.
Anything else you'd like to answer?
james h fetzer
We've got to do everything we can to get these people out of office.
The idea of building an empire is going to lead to a different world than we have as a constitutional democracy, Alex.
Our quality of life is going to suffer.
All of our resources are going to be devoted to maintaining the empire, and we're going to lose money for For Social Security, unemployment insurance for our schools, for our health care.
alex jones
We're going to be enslaved.
No one was as enslaved as somebody in Rome.
I appreciate you joining us.
Website, AssassinationScience.com.
And we will be getting you back on, on Friday.
And I've been honored to have you here, sir.
james h fetzer
My great pleasure, Alex.
alex jones
God bless you.
james h fetzer
See you then.
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