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unidentified		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
		He's Alex Jones on the GCN Radio Network.
		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, ladies and gentlemen, we're live. It is...
		It is 9-11-9-1-1, September 11, 2001.
		An amply numbered date, isn't it?
		We're going to be live until midnight this evening and then more live shows throughout the early morning hours.
		I have been one of those lone voices out there warning you about government-sponsored terrorism.
		I am no fan of Osama Bin Laden, a known CIA asset.
		I have MSNBC here in front of me.
		I am no fan of Saddam Hussein, a known CIA asset, throughout the 70s and 80s, right into 1990, when April Glaspie, U.S.
		Ambassador to Iraq, told her to invade.
		The problem is, we have a government implicated in the bombing of Oklahoma City, and we have mountains of evidence.
		I have the latest developments and news and information and an eyewitness joining us live from a mile and a half away from the collapsed World Trade Centers and World Trade Center number seven.
		A total of five buildings that have collapsed totaled, burned to the ground, collapsed from shape charges that even local media and national media is reporting were involved.
		When we get back, I'm going to go back to April 24th and the Baltimore Sun, new book on NSA shit, Light on Secrets, U.S.
		terror plan called Cuban Invasion Pretext.
		They say the casualty list, that's dead people in U.S.
		newspapers, would cause a helpful wave of indignation.
		This is important information.
		Your call's coming up.
		Stay with us.
unidentified		From his Central Texas Command Center, deep behind enemy lines, the information war continues.
unidentified		It's Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A horrible thing has happened to the United States.
		At least five towers are down, two of them the fourth largest buildings on the planet.
		Upwards of 20,000 people are dead, at least.
		Those towers held 50,000 people, thank God.
		A lot of them hadn't gotten to work yet there on the East Coast at 8.50 when that first passenger liner smashed into the South Tower.
		Then about 20 minutes later, another one hit the second tower.
		And then the towers began to collapse.
		I have one of the designers in the Chicago Tribune saying, this is impossible!
		We've been trying to get a hold of General Benton Parton all night, but his phone has been busy perpetually.
		We actually had a structural engineer on the show today.
		That is not how buildings go down in five seconds.
		And I was actually listening to local KLBJ radio when they had another structural engineer on from Texas A&M who did part of the analysis back in 1993 for the first World Trade Center bombing, saying that this wouldn't happen.
		And then the host, Jeff Ward, said, yeah, I was watching local news this morning right when it happened, and then about 20 minutes later, 30 minutes later, when the first tower collapsed, the reporters were panicking, saying there'd been a giant explosion on the bottom floor.
		And the sounds were picked up by the audio tape.
		But the spin machine is in overdrive, just like in Oklahoma City, telling us a truck bomb outside blows out columns further back and blasts them off cleanly at the bottom, making rebar and concrete disappear.
		Only imperial stormtroopers are so precise.
		You're watching mass mind control unfold.
		Whether the government was involved in it or the European Union as they roll out the euro that's partially gold-backed, already trading above the dollar, or if this was actually Osama bin Laden, I want to know why our government funded him throughout the 80s and early 90s, why his family still builds our military bases in Saudi Arabia and around the Middle East, why their family sits on the board of directors of Iridium Satellite, I want to know why we didn't take Saddam out in 1991, 50 miles from downtown Baghdad.
		And if the Arabs did this, I want to know why Iran isn't a glistening glass parking lot right now.
		But none of that's going to happen.
		They're going to bomb some desert Bedouins, some goat farmers.
		You know, nobody seemed to care when the Kurds got killed by the tens of thousands by Saddam
		spraying US-made Sarin on them.
		Oh my goodness, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to have wide open phones tonight.
		I want to hear your take.
		There's no way any one of us could watch all the news channels.
		I've been watching them all day long.
		I've heard comments about martial law, civil emergency, hundreds of comments about how we've lost our innocence.
		We need to give up our civil liberties now and accept troops on the streets.
		We've been hearing that in the last five years, six years since Oklahoma City.
		Which we know was a government bombing.
		And I've posted a bunch of historical documents going back over 3,000 years with examples of governments blowing up, burning, destroying their own buildings, their own structures as a pretext for control of the population or for a war.
		And before I get to this stack of news that is voluminous and the latest developments, I want to tell everybody out there that InfoWars.com has All the breaking news, Violet is up there updating as we speak literally a hundred different stories with all the different angles for you to analyze the different propaganda.
		I-N-F-O-W-A-R-S dot com.
		You're going to get the same bilge over and over and over again from the mainstream media if you want the truth and our expert analysis and your comments as well.
		Genesis is the place to be.
		Now, at my urging we went commercial free For about eight hours today.
		And then I was talking to Ted and I said, look, it's getting a little tough for us to even get the news together.
		Maybe the breaks are a good respite so it's not just the same stories regurgitated over and over again.
		So the breaks have been reinstalled.
		Plus, we're not opulently rich like ABC.
		We need our sponsors to get a good response.
		We need to run the ads.
		So, bear with us on that and support what we're doing.
		If you believe in this alternative media source that brings you the experts, that brings you the information, that brings you the analysis, you need to make decisions.
		If you don't believe a word I'm about to say, check it out for yourself.
		It's all on InfoWars.com.
		Now, about a month and a half ago, I launched Operation Expose the Terrorist in Government.
		Not the whole government, but the security agencies.
		They have been caught with plans to blow up airliners, to sink ships, to attack Washington as a pretext for war.
		As a pretext for a police state.
		It's even on the History Channel now that Pearl Harbor was a government operation.
		They allowed Admiral Yamamoto to attack.
		Am I supporting Imperial Japan?
		No!
		But this is how you suck people into primitive militant enthusiasm to get them to submit to your will.
		You take one on the chin.
		But the globalists, David Rockefeller, didn't take one on the chin.
		Prince Philip didn't take one on the chin.
		Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands didn't take one on the chin.
		Israel didn't take one on the chin.
		The American people, and hundreds of firefighters, and hundreds of police, and thousands of citizens, civilians as they call us, took the hit on the chin.
		And I've been warning you about this every day and every night, six hours a day, Monday through Friday.
		For five years, six years, since I've been on radio.
	Eight years on local cable television.
	So let's dive into the news and then to your calls, Jim and John and others that are holding patiently.
	The told free number to join us if you're in the military or police or firemen or housewives or auto mechanics.
	I don't care.
	You're welcome to join us tonight.
	Open phone throughout the evening.
	In about 15 minutes, we have an eyewitness joining us.
	It was on the daytime show.
	A family friend of mine, who was in the building next door, the World Financial Center, saw the whole thing.
	Bodies on fire, jumping out.
	We'll get a real eyewitness report coming up.
	Toll-free number to join us, 1-800-259-9231, 800-259-9231.
	And obviously, it is the 11th of September, 2001.
	It is 9-1-1, an amply... an ample date.
	nine two thirty one eight hundred
	two five nine nine two three one obviously it is the eleventh of september
	two thousand one it is nine one one and only an ample date
	this is from the baltimore sun
	posted since april on info wars dot com we have interviewed james bamford former twenty twenty
	executive best-selling author on the puzzle palace on the nsa and of course is new
	best-selling book so in new york dot bestsellers since april
	body of secrets and nine hundred page book that i've already read half of
	Thank you.
unidentified		U.S.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		military leaders proposed in 1962 a secret plan to commit terrorist acts against Americans and blame Cuba to create a pretext for invasion in the after of communist leader Fidel Castro, according to a new book about the National Security Agency.
		Now, do I support that filth bag, that communist murder Fidel?
		No, but I don't support becoming Fidel to fight Fidel.
		And the main headline in this new book on NSA sheds lights on a secret U.S.
		terror plan called Human Invasion Pretext.
		Now, this is from the NSA documents, confirmed by the New York Times.
		We could develop a communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area and other Florida cities, and even in Washington, said one document, reportedly prepared by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, we could blow up a U.S.
		ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame it on Cuba.
		The document says, casually list in U.S.
		newspapers would cause a helpful wave of indignation.
		Yeah, this government's blown up a ship in Guantanamo Bay before the Spanish-American War.
		The plan is laid out in documents signed by the five Joint Chiefs of Staff, but never carried out because President Kennedy said no six months later.
		His head was a shattered pumpkin.
		According to writer James Bamford in Body of Secrets, the new history of the Fort Meade-based eavesdropping agency is being released today by Doubleday.
		And this was back in April.
		The NSA regularly picks up the conversations of suspected terrorist financier Ahmad bin Laden, said Bamford, and has monitored Chinese and French companies trying to sell missiles to Iran.
		He provides new details about Israeli attack on a Navy eavesdropping ship in 1967, suggesting that sinking was deliberate, and he reveals the loss of an entire warehouse full of secret cryptographic gear to North Vietnamese in 1975 at the end of the Vietnam War.
		So it covers a lot of stuff.
		And let me read that quote to you again.
		Casualty list.
		That means list of dead people.
		In the U.S., newspapers would cause a helpful wave of indignation.
		And then they admit that We could sink a passenger ship, we could blow up airliners, we could attack Guantanamo Bay and the Marines there using army dressed up as Cubans.
		I mean, they're here in this article, quotes from the documents confirmed, wanting to blow up airliners!
		Now, it was signed on to, the Joint Chiefs of Staff wanted to do it, the Secretary of Defense wanted to do it, and Kennedy Despite all his evils, God bless his soul, became a leader there at the end and said, no way!
		In fact, I'm abolishing the CIA!
		And I'm pulling us out of NOM.
		You people are nuts!
		Now, this has been in the New York Times.
		This has been in the Baltimore Sun.
		This is a best-selling book.
		These are confirmed documents.
		And I warned you on the air, this show is not a game.
		This is not entertainment.
		This is information.
		And I warned you over and over and over again to call Washington and to write letters and tell them, we know you're behind the terrorism.
		Don't pull it.
		We'll know who to blame.
		I do have to tell you, I walked into a grocery store today, this morning, right after it happened, down the street from my house to get something.
		Everybody announced, Alex, we know you're right.
		The government blew it.
		I said, I don't know if that's the case.
		It may be the EU doing it.
		I want to announce this could be the EU.
		There are fissures and divides in this global power structure.
		But regardless, Bin Laden and the rest of them were funded and financed by the West, with the exception of Iran.
		And up until that point, it was with the Shah.
		Our borders are wide open to anybody that wants to come over.
		But then they tell us to give up our rights in the name of security.
		And what is the casualty of all of this?
		They're saying on the news, you're going to have to give up your rights.
		They're openly talking about martial law.
		Something must be done.
		We're never going to be able to live the same.
		We're going to have to go through checkpoints.
		The sheriff and the mayor here in Austin declared they'll be pulling people over and running checkpoints.
		And last Friday, I reported they're training the bus drivers to drive pickup routes to people's homes.
		I believe this is the beginning of a massive escalation.
		There could already be a biological attack underway.
		We won't know for three or four days.
		If that happens, well, I'll advise you when we get back, then we'll start going to your calls in an eyewitness.
		Stay with us.
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		at alex at infowars.com. Incredible tragedy and right out of the gates,
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		your rights are in the crosshairs. How is you giving up your liberties and your freedoms for security?
		Governor Keating from Oklahoma, one of the architects of that bombing, was on TV tonight saying that.
		I've heard him talk about martial law so many times and giving up our rights in a new era that my head is spinning.
		If I had a penny for every time I saw it, I'd have about ten bucks.
		It went on and on.
		And I got a ton of news and analysis here for you.
		I told you it was open phones.
		The phones are loaded, Jim.
		John, Clayton, Cindy, Mary and others, be patient, you'll get your time on the air tonight.
		Coming up in the next segment for about 5-10 minutes, he's very tired, we gave his name and number to other stations.
		A good family friend of mine, Jimmy Wright, who is a financial advisor and works for some of the big banks, was working in the financial center right next door, the World Financial Center right next door to the two towers.
		And, uh, heard the first one hit and saw the second one hit and saw the dead bodies falling out of the buildings and people on fire everywhere.
		He'll be joining us.
		He also has a degree in structural engineering.
		And, uh, I know his family's listening right now in Fredericksburg, Texas.
		On 91.7.
		And we're just glad that Jimmy is alive.
		So, developments on that coming to you by the minute.
		Janet Reno has canceled her trip to Waco, by the way, so that protest is off, my friends.
		Which I'm frankly glad.
		I didn't want to go confront that witch anyways.
		We should be praying for all the dead, but frankly, you heard it here first, and I'm not bragging.
		I'm very sad that I'm right.
		I tried to avert this disaster.
		I tried to get you to fight it.
		I know a lot of you did.
		They're moving forward with their new world order.
		Bottom line, your liberties are in the crosshairs.
		No matter who did this, they're going to keep the borders open and then tell you to drive through military checkpoints.
		All this was already alive and well.
		They kept telling us this was going to happen every day on the news.
		Here's an email report.
		I get to the news, our eyewitness guest for about 10 minutes, and then your calls.
		Be patient.
		I just caught part of an interview on GEN, Schwarzkopf, with General Schwarzkopf.
		Tom Brokaw literally asked the General what he thought about placing an armed soldier on every U.S.
		commercial aircraft.
		Schwarzkopf told him that he was That he was uncomfortable with that.
		All the other questions were masked much better.
		But what Brokaw meant to ask was, do you think the soldiers today need to be trained for martial law?
		I've heard him say that in the news.
		We've read like 20 reports in the last month on the air.
		You know, they could solve this whole hijacking thing.
		Arm the pilots with those exploding air martial bullets that any of us can buy.
		It'll go through about an inch of something, but nothing more.
		And put an armored bulkhead door on those aircraft.
		And I'm hearing these guys supposedly hijack these planes of paper with box cutters.
		He pulled a box cutter on me.
		And folks, I grew up in Dallas, Texas.
		I've had people pull knives on me.
		I've taken them away and broken their arm.
		Don't brag about how I'm Mr. Tough Guy, but Dallas was rough growing up.
		I've had somebody point a gun at me.
		I just walked over and grabbed it.
		Maybe I'm stupid.
		But we've seen this in schools, when people pull guns, teachers tackle them.
		You got pilots in a plane full of people, and they supposedly had box cutters.
		How do we know this?
		One of the former Clinton administration people was on board, the Solicitor General's wife, was on board that aircraft and called from one of the phones, a cell phone.
		And if you believe that no one on a plane was man enough, that those pilots would give control over a plane because somebody had a box cutter, Or you believe that they would fly it in at 500 miles an hour?
		That thing was moving both those planes into that building.
		I got a bridge I want to sell you.
		So the story we're getting there is bunk.
		I can't believe that you had hundreds of sheep on those planes.
	You pull a box cutter on me, you can't kill me with it!
	Go ahead and cut me!
	I'm coming in!
	Maybe a double-edged stiletto-style dagger might be more deadly if the person was good with a knife, but still, I'm coming at you.
	And any man would do that.
	Any woman would do that.
	I mean, you have no choice.
	You know, little ladies can pick up cars when their kids are under it.
	You're on a plane for a couple hours, cruising from Boston down to New York.
	Oh my goodness.
	I think it's clear that the fourth plane was shot down that was en route to Camp David.
	That's clear.
	Just get shot down outside of Pittsburgh, in a rural area.
	Frankly, that's probably what needed to be done.
	I just have to tell you, this is amazing, and we have been here predicting all of this, and what are they saying?
	You're going to have to give up your rights.
	That's what's under attack.
	They're not going to shut down that southern border.
	They're not going to make any real steps, and there could be a biological attack afoot.
	They told us a month ago in Fox, a month and a half ago in AP, about this secret meeting with the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the media heads, who produced four fake newscasts, and prepared for martial law, and the army will come in our houses and forcibly vaccinate us.
	That was the quote in Fox News, and four million are going to die from it.
	We'll need martial law was the word.
	And then it happens.
	All right, about a 10-minute interview with the eyewitness, Jimmy Wright, there in New York, 100 yards from all of this happening, still in New York, and then your calls.
unidentified		This is GPN.
		What will you do without freedom?
		The Genesis Communications Radio Network.
		The Genesis Communications Radio Network.
		Thank you.
		Alright, we had Jim Wright on the line.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He was on twice with us today, but there have been intermittent phone problems, even here
		in Austin, Texas, making local calls.
		Suddenly my local cell phone, I had to dial the area code of Austin to even get through to people in my own town when I was out driving around this afternoon.
		So we had him via a cell phone connection, and I tell you what, Matt, do you have his cell phone and his landline number?
		You only have one number.
		Okay, do me a favor.
		Call Violet.
		She's still in the office.
		She has a landline for you, okay?
		She has two numbers for you.
		I didn't know that you didn't have both of them.
		We got those to Mark today.
		I guess they're no longer there.
		And we will go ahead and get him on.
		Again, for those that don't know, there was a massive series of bombings, starting with the South World Trade Center that later collapsed.
		The Northern World Trade Center that later collapsed, the Pentagon, another that crashed outside Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
		I am very concerned about a possible biological attack.
		As we speak, we won't know for three or four days if it's anthrax or smallpox.
		We know these governments, these ARAB governments, have it.
		And this is a serious problem.
		My little Arab comment is me slipping into how they're the supposed boogeyman.
		I'm no fan of the people that run those countries.
		Don't get me wrong.
		But every boogeyman I see out there was put to power by this government.
		All right.
		We'll try to keep getting Jim right on.
		I'm sure we will.
		Right now, let's go to another Jim in Virginia.
		Jim, you're on the air, sir.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Yes, Alex, we did a little research and we wondered if there was something special about September 11th, the date itself.
		And we did find something kind of interesting here.
		On September 11th, President Bush delivered a address to Congress titled, Toward a New World Order, regarding the crisis in the Persian Gulf after Iraq invaded Kuwait.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The New World Order is a big idea.
unidentified		Right.
		And in this speech, he said, Saddam Hussein will fail while addressing Congress on the Persian Gulf.
		And we were just wondering if that date might have been picked as a little black eye by certain people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I want to know why we didn't go to Baghdad and take out Saddam.
		I want to know why that CIA asset bin Laden is out of control.
		And look, I'm not making this up.
		Here's MSNBC.
		We dug it out from August 24th, 1999.
		Bin Laden comes home to roost.
		The CIA ties are only the beginning of the story.
		At the CIA, it happens often enough to have a codename, blowback.
		Simply defined, this is the term that describes an agent, an operative, or an operation that has turned on its creators.
		Osama Bin Laden, or new public enemy number one, is a personification of blowback.
		And the fact that he is viewed as a hero by millions of Islamic World proves again the old adage, you reap what you sow.
		They go into the evidence.
		This is a CIA darling whose family still builds all the bases in the Middle East.
		Bottom line, before we go to our guest, we did get on the line, then we'll go to John and Clayton and Cindy and Mary and everybody else.
		Jim in Virginia, what do you think happened here today?
unidentified		In what respect?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're gut-level from all the evidence we brought here out on the air before this happened, predicting it, and all the evidence we've been collating.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who do you think's behind this?
unidentified		Oh, well, it could be Hussein, but the people that probably had most of the money and could have pulled it off would be probably Iran.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but who stands to gain from this?
unidentified		That is something we're asking ourselves here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'll tell you who stands to gain from it.
unidentified		Well, the New World Order.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Washington, the markets were already imploding on Friday and Monday.
		They were already talking about suspending trading.
		But even more than Washington, there is a fissure in the New World Order reported by our scholars.
		Dr. Coleman, Dr. Kaufman, Dr. Monteith, General Parton.
		We're talking about the EU, and what are they doing right now?
		Rolling out the EU currency, delivering it to stores and banks, not just in Europe, but Western Europe, Middle East, Asia, and Africa, as the world reserve currency, partially gold-backed.
		And then the financial center, the financial brain of the United States financial empire is imploded.
		World leaders met earlier this year in Switzerland there, at Davos, to announce the birth of the EU as the power, and saying that they were going to turn the light switch off on the US economy.
		And Germany runs the EU.
		So we're watching the destruction, ladies and gentlemen.
		I don't know who did it.
		Was it Bin Laden acting alone?
		20% chance.
		Was it this government?
		30% chance.
		Was it the EU and their operatives and hired psychopaths or mind control subjects?
		50% chance.
		Now that's my analysis, and frankly, I've never been wrong.
		I wish I was wrong every day.
		I've never been wrong on my long-term analyses.
		All right, I appreciate the call, Jim.
		We're going to go on to John Clayton, Sidney, Mary, and others.
		Again, the toll-free number to join us, 1-800-259-9231.
		I haven't even hit the news yet.
		I haven't even hit the news yet.
		Right now, let's go to another Jim.
		Jim Wright, a good family friend of mine, who has family in Fredericksburg, and I go
		out and visit occasionally with the Booth family.
		But more often he lives in New York.
		They're working in the World Financial Center just a few hundred yards away.
		He felt the first explosion impact on the South Tower, saw the second impact, and was there as burning bodies were falling out of the windows right in the center of hell itself.
		Sir, it's great to have you back on the show.
		I know you're tired.
		God bless you.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy, just give us a breakdown of exactly what you do, where you were working, and blow-by-blow what developed today.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		I work with one of the accounting firms in Lower Manhattan in the World Financial Center, which is directly across the street from the World Trade Center.
		I'm currently a financial consultant there.
		As you said, as I told you earlier, we felt the shock, heard a faint sonic boom.
		When I looked out my window, I could see some vibration on the buildings next door to us, these not being the World Trade Center.
		A few moments later we made our way to the side of our building where the trade that faces the Trade Center and as you mentioned earlier literally watched the first tower burning and firefighters and emergency people trying to make their way into the building all kinds of glass and debris falling into the street after a bit of time maybe We saw the first bodies actually coming out maybe three or four minutes before the second plane hit.
		We were watching the building very closely when the plane hit.
		That was the point we realized that this was some type of deliberate act, not a bizarre building accident.
		That we're in a target-prone area, a target-rich environment.
		And at that point, we got out of our building, made our way across the river, across the Hudson to the New Jersey side, which is about a mile, mile and a half away from the site.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What did the fireball look like?
		I mean, we've seen the video now that ABC got off a local guy who had a camera.
		He did a great job, a lot better job than I could do.
		Actually following it, and then as the stuff's raining, he's still videotaping it.
		And in slow-mo, here's this huge passenger jet slamming in, disappearing into the building, totally exploding.
		Please continue.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, the picture that's been running on the network was actually on the opposite side of the building where I was.
		So, you know, after the plane initially made the impact, there's a few milliseconds, if you will, darkness or when you don't see anything happening and then
		the plane starts hard on it coming out the backside of the building before
		it actually blows the fireball out the opposite side from the impact. We were
		on the opposite side so we never saw the plane actually come through the
		building other than catching a glimpse of it just prior to impact. Yeah you
		said you saw a flash of white. Yeah kind of a way yeah that
		We saw a flash of something moving like a piece of a wing or a tail fin.
		Very brief.
		But then being on the opposite side of the building from where the impact took place, we literally, it looked like a flamethrower coming out of the face of the building that was That flame was blasting into the side of the building that was previously hit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Several hundred yards?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, easily.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, Jimmy, you have a degree in engineering, and without me even prompting you, your wife called me here at home, and we have the interview of that post on the website right now, and said, you know, Alex, Jimmy was there.
		And then she gave us your cell phone number.
		We got in touch with you as you were literally walking amongst the charred bodies that were piling up.
		You, on your own accord, said that it was the most beautifully done demolition job you've ever seen.
		Now I'm hearing on a local and national radio And we've heard reports that this morning, there was a reporter out front, as one building was smoking and the other one was smoking, that as the first one collapsed, there was an explosion, a huge explosion at the bottom, and the reporter jumped for cover.
		The structural engineer who designed the building is in at the Chicago Tribune, just out on InfoWars.com, and the viewers, the listeners would like to see that, saying there's no way this could happen.
		He designed it to take the 777 hit.
		I mean, that plane wasn't out at the time, but it would take, you know, bigger than any plane that's been designed at this time.
		It might even chop the top of the building off, but those things are very strong buildings.
		Instead, you see a perfect falling, and then as the top is disturbed, some sloughing off.
		What were your comments there as a degreed person in structural engineering?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Well, both myself and actually one of my colleagues, who's also in construction engineering, We've watched it, and both of our comments was that the building fell so perfectly and vertically.
		There was no leaning.
		It just came straight down.
		Which is a very hard thing to accomplish with a structural steel building, because the steel tends to bend.
		It's easier to do it with a concrete building, but that's not what this is.
		It's a steel structure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We would see it fall over to one side.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		That's what you would expect, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But instead, both the buildings fell.
		Symmetrically, and the other one that fell later is a jagged heap and didn't fall in that symmetrical fashion.
		What does that bring you to believe, sir?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		It looked to me like there would have to have been some type of tremendous shock or explosion applied to the very base of the two towers that did come down.
		I can tell you that, yeah, people reported feeling a shock in the ground.
		My neighbors here in this marina of a mile and a half away that they actually felt the shock wave coming through the water prior to seeing the building drop.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because you actually have a yacht there at the bay.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a boat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a boat you sail behind.
		It looks like a yacht to me.
		How many feet is it?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		About 43 foot.
		43 foot?
		My neighbors, they are also in about a Forty to forty-five foot large power boat, so it's a substantial, you know, vessel that they're in, and they were able to feel some shock through the hull.
unidentified		Through the hull.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy, the bodies, the burning bodies, the people coming out of the buildings, what did you see?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was a little bit of an exaggeration to say I walked among them.
		I went out the opposite side of our building, but we did see bodies.
		Uh, while we were on the 15th floor, directly across from the Trade Center, uh, some were smoldering, hopefully dead.
		Now, you said that you... Others were flailing, uh, and clearly, you know, conscious and aware of what was happening, and, uh, it's, you know, you can definitely recognize a body coming down from all the other debris, just the velocity that it falls.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's just... Now, I think on the daytime show, you called it a sack of Like a sack of concrete.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Literally, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So I'm just going back from today, you're probably a little bit more excited at that time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You were saying you also saw the dead bodies on the ground, or was that when you were in the building?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Well, we saw a few that were laying out on the ground from the initial blast, presumably, and the emergency personnel dealt with them and was pulling them away as they were trying to get into the building.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So this was before the main collapse?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Oh yes, yes.
		Probably a good Twenty minutes.
		Actually, the first bodies we saw falling out were prior to the second aircraft.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What did you hear?
		What did you see?
		What did you feel?
		What did you think as the buildings collapsed?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Just that it was just a perfect implosion.
		I mean, you think of how horrific it is.
		And the loss of life in there, but to watch it done, I felt it was clearly very deliberate and very well planned out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, by perfect implosion, it's like watching Las Vegas when they destroy a building.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Knowing the size of the building and the kind of engineering technology it would seem to me to take to do that, it seems to me like a tremendous amount of resources and infrastructure So a very sophisticated group.
		Whoever it was, yeah.
		and i think today it wasn't done overnight you know it looked to me like
		implant for a great deal of time to get the the the not
		explosive to make a bill income down like a bit so very sophisticated group
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		whoever was there now i mean obviously you had to have a governmental support
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		behind it uh... i i don't know what
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		what kind of resources either on the intelligence or wealth that it would
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy, you're a big guy.
		What would you do if a guy was on a plane with a box cutter, threatening you and your family, saying he was taking a hostage?
		You'd rush him, wouldn't you?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well they're saying these guys took over four planes with box cutters, and most of these pilots are military veterans.
		They're not wimps.
		And the people on board those planes all of them are total domesticated sheep.
		I don't buy it.
		They hijacked four planes with box cutters.
		What do you think?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		God knows what people do when they're panicked.
		It's hard to believe.
		Although there were not a great deal of passengers on the plane, they didn't look to me like they were full of near capacity.
		Uh, you know, who knows what kind of shock they threw people in.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But some punk waving around a box cutter?
unidentified		Pardon me?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Imagine somebody waving a box cutter.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		I'm with you.
		I personally, yeah, I would rush them, and I think most people would, but God knows what was going on in that plane, you know?
		I mean, I find it very hard to believe that they threatened the pilots on the planes to crash them in.
		I just, I don't think any pilot would have let that happen.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jimmy, I would imagine your family's very happy right now, the booths and the rides, that you're alive.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's a lot of people.
		We kind of look back in retrospect and think some of us, how close we were.
		And there was no clear indication in our building to evacuate, but we just knew when it was time and left.
		And, you know, a very short time later, it truly became hell.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Anything else you'd like to add, Jim Wright?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Just pray and hope for the people that are in that building still trying to save people or the people that are trapped.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Nothing could be more frightening.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, Jimmy Wright, I really appreciate you joining us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can we check back in with you tomorrow?
unidentified		Yeah, you can give it a shot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, I know you're coming back to Texas.
		Thanks for joining us.
		Now, your calls are coming up.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, my friends, we've got two hours and about five minutes left.
		I want to take about 40, 50 calls.
		So let's go straight through your calls.
		If you'd like to join us, the toll-free number to do so is 1-800-259-9231.
		I've also got a bunch of news.
		and the latest developments for you after this massive, massive terrorist attack.
		Biggest in U.S.
		history, or world history for that matter.
		A lot bigger than Pearl Harbor.
		Let's go ahead and talk to John in Kingsville, Texas.
unidentified		Hello, John.
unidentified		John in occupied Kingsville.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		I made some pretty interesting observations today.
		Jimmy's story is very interesting.
		I'll tell you what, this whole thing looked too complicated.
		And I just wonder what the chances are that, you know, the technology exists.
		Those aircraft operate totally on electronics that the aircraft weren't fixed.
		I wonder if we will ever find that out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, it's funny you bring that up, Jim.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Or John.
unidentified		That's okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did you see on my website the Fox Television piece about the second episode of the Lone Gunman this year?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, the X-File type show?
unidentified		I missed that, Alex.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A secret government agency takes control of an airplane, my computer, and tries to crash it into the World Trade Center.
		Because just like Governor Keating's brother writing that book, Final Jihad, three years before the Oklahoma City bombing, Where he mentions Mr. McVeigh and the Albuquerque Federal Building.
		They like to brag, don't they?
unidentified		Yes, the technology is there, the satellites are in place, and it's very suspicious that I heard on the news that FEMA had actually activated several minutes before the first aircraft crashed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, I just want to Yeah, but the people don't want to believe that, John.
		They want to think that this government cares about us.
		It's those evil Arabs.
		We're going to kick their tails in.
		We're now going to have a war.
		It's going to be this big wartime fervor and this civil emergency during the war.
		And we're going to have to give up our rights, Senator John McCain said on the news.
unidentified		I was going to mention that.
		Senator John McCain, we're at war.
		We're at war.
		We're shutting down the civil airways in this country.
		The first time In our history, I guess since we've had aviation, our skies have been shut.
		There's no declared war.
		Our borders are shut down.
		And I'm sure there's going to be some constitutional issues that need to be brought up about this.
		You know, who was in charge?
		Who was giving these orders?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And John McCain just really Well, you know, if you just give us Granddaddy's shotgun that's in your closet and drive through a checkpoint and present your papers, America will be safe.
		We're going to let the Chinese military have the Panama Canal and move into Cuba and the Bahamas.
		They're not the threat.
		We're going to have our border wide open to any illegals who want to come here from Russia and China and the Middle East, but you're the problem, buddy, and you're going to have to give up your rights.
		That's the moral to this story.
		Now, how long have I been saying this is going to happen, John?
unidentified		For quite a while, Alex.
		At least over two, three years I've listened to you.
		And it happened today, unfortunately.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I'm telling you, the Austin Bus Department is training the police to drive pickup routes, confirmed Friday night.
unidentified		Well, we saw on February the 8th, 1999, what they're capable of here in Kingsville.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what happened there?
unidentified		Well, that's when the jackbooted thugs came in with the black helicopters and the whole downtown was roped off.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they burned down a building and blew up another one next to a nursing home?
unidentified		They terrorized elderly citizens.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's in my film, Police State 2000.
unidentified		That's correct.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Anything else you'd like to add, John?
unidentified		I sure would.
		Henry Kissinger was on about 10-10-30.
		So are you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you what, John.
		You're going to have to hold.
		We've got a minute break here and then we'll start the second hour.
		We'll let you finish up briefly and then we'll go to Clayton.
unidentified		I'll be here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Cindy, Mary, Daryl, everybody else.
		Don't forget my website.
		It's updated by the minute.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		As you know, my friends, a dastardly, cowardly attack by the forces of the New World Order, whether it's Bin Laden or the EU or the FBI, Has been launched against the two World Trade Center towers.
		Two other, the three other buildings have also been destroyed.
		The Pentagon has been attacked.
		Another plane was hijacked and crashed outside Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
		I told you we'd have wide open phones, and we do have wide open phones.
		We're about to go back to John in Kingsville, Clayton in Missouri, Cindy in West Virginia, Mary in Oklahoma, Daryl in Texas, and others.
		But coming up in about 5-10 minutes, we have an unexpected guest that's going to be joining us.
		We already had an eyewitness on who was in the World Financial Center right next door to the World Trade Center towers.
		This unexpected guest is my friend, Joe Rogan, host of Fear Factor, about to be host of Spy TV.
		Talk about a New World Order show.
		But Joe knows all about the New World Order, and is really disgusted by this, and is chomping at the bit to go on the air and talk about it.
		So we'll try to make sure Joe doesn't go too wild, and we're honored to have him on.
		He just called the office and said, I want to come on!
		So we're going to be talking to Joe Rogan coming up.
		I know we're having a lot of people who can't get online or who are getting kicked off.
		I'm sorry.
		We have quadrupled our listenership today on the net.
		And that's because people heard me talk about this so many times, what would develop, and now they're actually witnessing it.
		So let's go back to John in Kingsville, and then we'll go to everybody else.
		Edward Joe Rogan, be patient.
		John in Kingsville, you saw Henry New World Order Kissinger on the news.
unidentified		Yes, I did.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What was he saying?
unidentified		Well, he was spouting the New World Order party line, and one thing he said, and I believe... We're going to have to give up our rights for security.
		Yes, he did.
		He goes, we need to do away with the moral arguments In their right, to give up our rights, and I guess the moral argument would have to be our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have to get rid... You know why I know that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because they've been saying it for years, Mr. President, and we need to do this now.
unidentified		Yeah, we're on to Henry, and also one other thing I'd like to mention is that it seemed like the NBC reporter, as that South Tower was being imploded and crashing down, And this guy acted like he was reading off a script.
		As the building was coming down, he nonchalantly said, now we see the building collapse under its own weight and obviously can't take the stress.
		So obviously, more swill coming from the mass media.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we know they've been training for this.
		We've read the reports, the meetings with the media, in the bunkers with the generals.
		Getting us ready and now, not the Arabs, not the New World Order, but our freedoms are in the crosshairs.
unidentified		That's right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now we gotta feel good and let's bomb the Arabs.
		Fine.
		But we shouldn't give up any of our liberties.
unidentified		Exactly.
		And before I let you go, Alex, I wanted to say to the listeners, get on the phones.
		First thing I did today was I called Senator Hutchinson and Senator Graham and voiced my concerns about what happened today.
		They need to hear from us right now more than ever.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And are you letting them know that you smell a rat?
unidentified		Yes, sir, I sure did.
		I let them know what I thought about the building imploding also.
		Obviously imploding.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you just heard a structural engineer and the designers in the Chicago Tribune saying that couldn't happen.
unidentified		It sure did.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because of shape charges at the columns at the base.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I hear a lot of people saying that on mainstream media, so you've lost again, New World Order.
unidentified		That's right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The question is, did they let Bin Laden, did they let Iraq, did they let Iran do this?
		A very sophisticated operation.
		They couldn't get away with it.
		And we have the October 28th, 1993, New York Times, a few months after the bombing, reporting that the Feds trained the bombers, built the bomb, and let it go forward.
		Alright, ladies and gentlemen.
		We're gonna get the Hollywood, California perspective from Joe Rogan when we get back and then we'll talk to Clayton and Cindy and Mary and Daryl and everybody else.
		Toll-free number to join us, 1-800-259-9231.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Two large passenger planes, medium-sized, slammed into both the south and north tower of the World Trade Center today.
		We had a structural engineer on.
		The designer of the towers is saying in the Chicago Tribune that that is impossible, what happened.
		Only shaped charges at the bottom could cause that.
		My good friend Kevin Booth's brother-in-law, Who I know very well, who is an investment guy that works in the financial towers.
		Explosions obviously did go off.
		He was an eyewitness several hundred yards away from it.
		The buildings came down.
		We have the Pentagon being attacked.
		We also have another plane obviously being shot down by F-16s that were hitting the area, according to the AP, outside Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, before it could attack the main city.
		Frankly, I think that's the course that probably needed to be taken.
		How these guys could hijack these planes with box cutters, I'll never know.
		That's what cell phone calls being called in from the planes were supposedly saying, one of them the wife of the Solicitor General, who is now dead.
		They're now saying our liberties, our freedoms are in the target, are in the spotlight, give them up.
		Here to give us the Hollywood perspective is my good buddy, who knows all about the globalists, Joe Rogan.
		He, of course, was one of the top guys on the popular syndicated show, NewsRadio, and now the host of Fear Factor, with all the studs, number one rated show on television.
		And I was honored with Kevin Booth, I'm making a film with, with Joe, Tell us you wanted to come on.
		I am just really excited about having Joe Rogan on.
		Joe, it's good to talk to you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Alex.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What's going on, man?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Kevin told me you were crying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I can't imagine the Taekwondo world champion crying, but what does this mean to you, Joe Rogan?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I mean, I guess it means the same thing it means to everybody.
		It's really the end of innocence for this country.
		I mean, the first time we've ever had like a real terrorist attack on civilians, and I think everybody, me included, is pretty freaked out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, you know I was predicting this, telling you all about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, you do predict that the government is doing these things, but I mean, you don't believe that there's people in other countries that hate us?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know there are, but I know this, MSNBC, bin Laden comes home to roost, his CIA ties are only the beginning of the story, MSNBC.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, he supposedly had CIA ties when he was working for the CIA, but that doesn't mean that he didn't, like, get angry when he was working with the CIA, and decided that's when he decided to hate America.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, now they're saying it could be Iraq... It's pretty ridiculous.
		No, I hear you.
		Now they're saying it could be Iraq.
		They're saying that it could be anybody.
		It could be Iran.
		My question is, why didn't we take Baghdad in 1991?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I mean, assuming that's, you know, that's assuming that this has anything to do with that, you know?
		I don't think the Middle East acts as one collective consciousness, so you can't really assume that.
		We don't even know it was the Middle East.
		We have no idea right now, right?
		What do we know?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We don't know, but they are out there saying, Middle East, Middle East.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what they did with Timothy McVeigh, too.
		That's what they did with Oklahoma City, don't you remember?
		Right after it happened, everybody was saying, you know, Middle East guys, Middle East guys.
		And that's exactly what they're doing now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know this.
		They did arrest some Middle Easterners with bomb-making components in London and then released them who had been flying out of Oklahoma City.
		Joe Rogan, again, host of the number one syndicated show right now, The Fear Factor.
		How did this affect you this morning when you first saw it developing?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I actually found out about it because of our friend Kevin.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Kevin called me at 7 o'clock and woke me up and left a message on my machine and then I got up and turned on the news.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's 7 o'clock Pacific?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 7 o'clock specific.
		And, uh, it's just, uh, it's staggering, you know?
		It's just, it's mind-blowing.
		Like, you, you, you know it happened, and you see it on television, but you want to watch it over and over again, because you can't believe it's real.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's, it's like Independence Day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's exactly like that.
		It's like, yeah, it's, you know, it's a Hollywood movie that you can't believe.
		You watch it, and you go, well, that would never happen.
		But when you see a jet, and then another jet slam into the World Trade Center, and then see it collapse, It's insane.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Minus the flying saucers, it is Independence Day.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		It's very close to it.
		It's just staggering, you know?
		It's just, really, it's mind-blowing.
		I think, today, the world changed for everybody.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What are your friends out in Hollywood saying about all this?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, people are freaking out.
		I mean, there's a bunch of people that take the retard approach.
		It's like, hey, let's bomb everybody.
		There's always going to be that, right?
		And then there's the racist approach, where people assume that everybody of Middle Eastern descent is responsible for this.
		And you hear a lot of racial slurs, and you hear it everywhere from all sorts of different people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've been hearing camel jockeys and all those terms on mainstream radio.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, absolutely.
		I've heard sand donkey.
		I've heard everything.
		People are always going to blame an entire race for the acts of a few individuals or many individuals.
		You know what I think.
		There's only three types of people in the world.
		There's morons, jerks, and people you can hang out with.
		Keep it radio clean.
		I don't believe that we can just point at an entire race of people or entire religion, the Muslims, and say that they're responsible for this.
		I don't know who's responsible, and it's sick and it's twisted, and it's just sad that the world is this way.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the Afghans, the Pakistanis, the Iranians, and the Palestinian leader, Yasser Arafat, the snail, and that guy is bad, they're up there saying, we didn't do this, we didn't do this, and obviously they don't want to Well, I don't know.
		it they wouldn't want to do this because they'll get their country turned into a glass parking
		lot. Joe, you're a smart guy. How in the world could an independent group hijack four planes
		and do this with such incredible precision? Well, I don't know. I mean, to point out the
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		people taking credit for it, one of the things that, you know, the top terrorist agencies
		always say is the people who take credit for it are usually not the people who did it.
		The people that deny it are usually the people that are responsible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, what about the EU run by the Germans?
		They're rolling out their new currency.
		Stock markets were already crashing globally.
		The EU was up against the dollar.
		You know, everything is about currency speculation.
		A lot of the evidence I'm getting from my sources say this could be an EU move.
		And look how they attacked our very financial center to destroy the dollar.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think that- wait a minute, let me get this straight.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You think that this was Europe attacking America to destroy our economy?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know that in Davos, Switzerland, eight months ago, they announced that they were going to be preeminent.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The dollar was going down, and there's been a global fight going on in the news analysis between the two countries.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, until we have any evidence of who did this, anything else is just irresponsible speculation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, my point is, we have to ask who is behind this.
		You talk about irresponsible speculation.
		Look at the mainstream media.
		They're out there saying a hundred different people did it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I haven't heard anybody say that any one person did it.
		I've heard that Osama Bin Laden is suspected.
		That's the only thing I've heard.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, they've said Iran, they've said Afghanistan, they've said Pakistan.
		Well, Joe, here's the point.
		They're telling us, give up our rights now.
		We're going to have to, you know, give up some of our liberties for security.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are they saying, though, as far as that?
		Okay, I know that's always your big point.
		I think that was your point about Oklahoma City.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You also said that, that they were... Well, Joe, the borders are wide open.
		The Chinese military has the Panama Canal.
		That's in the news.
		Those are the real threats, not the American people.
		Not Joe's shotgun.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what do you think that they're trying to accomplish?
		And you have this thing in your mind that there's a grand scheme and a grand plan.
		What do you think they're trying to accomplish with this?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Why did Hitler burn the Reichstag?
		He's an elected chancellor.
		He wanted to abolish the presidency and become pure.
		Why did Nero burn Rome to blame it on the Christians?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I see where you're going with this, but look.
		Blaming anybody for any of this without any evidence is pretty much just irresponsible speculation.
		I mean, we don't know yet.
		And I don't know if we're ever going to know the real story.
		Like, who knows if we're ever going to find out the real story about the plane that crashed in Pittsburgh.
		I've heard many reports of all over the internet and all over the news that there was people saying that jets were following the plane and they heard a big explosion and it was shot down in the sky.
		But do you think they're going to tell us?
		I mean, how are we going to know?
		Is the mainstream media ever going to know?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think these terrorists would waste their lives crashing into the forest.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm frankly glad they... It looks like they did shoot down that plane outside Pittsburgh.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, well, I'm... I mean, I can't say I'm glad they did it, but, you know, if it Well, Joe, I'm all up front.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the communists have killed 200 million people, but the colleges tell you they're cool.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So I care about human life, but... You know, I don't think colleges tell you communists are cool.
		I think they tell you socialism is cool because socialism is what a lot of educational people want.
		They want us to share wealth.
		I think it's ridiculous.
		But I think it's the ideal that they support, not communism itself, and not ruthless communist dictatorships and what they do to their people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, they called him Uncle Joe Stalin in the 1950s in the newspapers.
		Yeah, well... Joe, let me read you something here, and I really appreciate you coming on, and I want to hear your take on this.
		Because you're kind of in the middle of the road, just watching and seeing what's developing.
		I was predicting this Friday night, and we have the tapes posted on my website, I had James Bamford, former 2020 executive on, different network from you, you're NBC, But it says, New book on NSA sheds light on secrets.
		U.S.
		terror plan called Cuban invasion pretext by Scott Shane and Tom Bowman.
		It says here, this is the Baltimore Sun, also New York Times.
		They wanted to, quote, casualty list, that means numbers of dead in U.S.
		newspapers would cause a helpful wave of indignation.
		uh... they want to blow up passenger airliners attack the marines at
		guantanamo using army dressed up as cubans as a pretext to invade cuba
		now kennedy said no six months later his head was sloppy joe's joe how do you respond to that i know you're a web guy you
		can read the stories and hear the clips
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		well you know i've heard any million uh... number
		different theories on uh... why and how kennedy was assassinated and by who and you know
		i suspect uh... you know one of them out there is true I suspect the government probably had something to do with it.
unidentified		But as far as, you know, that, I mean... But Joe, not even the Kennedy thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's confirmed NSA documents.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Joint Chiefs of Staff signed on to it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Secretary of Defense signed on to it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But it's confirmed by who?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who confirmed this?
		Oh, it was released from the Library of Congress.
		This is Baltimore Sun right here.
		They wanted to blow up airlines.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I would have to read that before I could comment on it.
		Joe, if that's what our government is about, obviously we're in a big, big, big problem and this is just the beginning of it.
		I don't I find it hard to believe that the idea... Is it because of the idea being that we're overpopulated?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what does the government have to... Oh, that's really on target.
		Joe, I know you're a busy guy, but I want to give you a chance during the break to go to my website.
		It's right there on the main page.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can you punch up InfoWars.com and read some more stories?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we'll do that right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, will you stay with us?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I love Joe Rogan.
		This guy is a dynamic, powerful personality, and he's Mr. Karate Champion, and I count myself lucky to be friends with him.
		But we have some heated arguments, and he's being nice to me on the air.
		I just want to say that right now, because he beats me upside the head in private arguments.
		We'll be right back, folks, with Joe Rogan, and then your calls.
		Stay with us.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know the phones are loaded.
		We're going to get to you, but we got Joe Rogan, the star of NewsRadio and Fear Factor, joining us, my good buddy.
		And he knows all about corruption in government and can argue with the best of them.
		Joe, did you get a chance to read that Baltimore Sun story?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Alex, I did.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know, this story is out by that guy who wrote The Bampers, the guy who wrote the book The Puzzle Box, is that what it is?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Puzzle Palace, is that what it is?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow, yeah, you know about that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'd read about that guy, but apparently that's a very controversial book, isn't it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's just about the NSA.
		Now it's not.
		When he wrote it in 86 it was, and now we know the echelons.
		I don't think Hollywood ever should be in a position to take any actions whatsoever.
		Hollywood is about entertainment and making money.
		You know, Hollywood trying to prop things up I think is pretty ridiculous.
		But they're kind of doing that.
		what actions monologue would take to uh... help prop things up
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		i don't think i would ever should be in a position to take any actions whatsoever
unidentified		hollywood is about entertainment and making money you know how you know how we were trying to prop things up
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		i think it's pretty ridiculous but they're kind of doing that you know they're
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		taking a lot of federal money on some of these army scripts and stuff
unidentified		Are they really?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		You know those movies like Pearl Harbor?
		All of them, yeah.
		Exactly.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They take Army money in what way?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All the free equipment, and then the Army tells them how to write the script and what to do and what to take out?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		I highly doubt the Army tells them what to do and what to take out.
		I think they do probably tell them that they can't have the Army or the military viewed in a poor way, like displayed in a poor way, but I highly doubt they give them money.
		For them, it's also good publicity, though.
		You have to realize, I mean, for recruitment, Watch a movie like Pearl Harbor where the kids join the Navy and become heroes, you know, for an impressionable young kid.
		Now that might be just the push that they need to get them into the armed services.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it created a glut of people wanting to fly F-14s when Tom Cruise made Top Gun.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, absolutely, and the military is well aware of that.
		I did a flight with the Blue Angels once, and one of the things that they were really concerned with is that I display this in a positive light when I talk about it in the news and the media, and that it would help recruitment.
		That's how they look at it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, Joe, I know you think it's stupid, Former Senator John DeCamp is suing the makers of Doom for what happened in Columbine.
		And I don't want the government to get in the business of regulating speech and ideas, because it'll be my speech they regulate, and I have to defend your right for them to defend my right.
		But did you see the second lone gunman where the government takes over a 747 to create martial law and tries to fly it into the World Trade Center?
		Because I have a link to Fox Television with the script on Infowars.com.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't see that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I doubt that has anything to do with this, though.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know that 101 of terrorism is not to hype it.
		I don't even blame things like the lone gunman.
		What about the media telling us every day, though, that we're wide open to terrorism, and then how powerful terrorists are?
		Doesn't that accentuate their power?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what, Alex?
		The media does what it does just to get ratings.
		I mean, the idea that the media is all about informing us is pretty much an illusion.
unidentified		And what the media is there for, It's a business to make money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And as soon as it falters in any way, shape, or form, they will adjust it, and correct it, and put it back in a position to make money.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Whether that means hiring attractive people to work as news anchors, or sprucing up the soundtrack, or doing whatever the hell they have to do, they're there to get ratings.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look at what's going on with shark attacks.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's less shark attacks this year than any other year before, but they've locked onto it as a point of focus, and now they talk about it constantly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then suddenly you see HBO re-airing Jaws every night.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		It's all about what is working.
		Right now what is working is shark attacks.
		Today what is working is terrorist attacks.
		And whatever is working is whatever they will use.
		Make no mistake about it, that's what the media is.
		The media is a business.
		The idea that people have That the media is controlled by some secret government agencies and it's all just propaganda, you know, to ensure that people get conformed to the police state.
		That's ridiculous.
		I know all the people behind these shows.
		They don't care about anything but money.
		They want ratings.
		They want 18 to 49.
		That's what they want.
		People who are 18 to 49.
		And whatever gets them, that's what'll be on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but Joe, you do MAD TV and News Radio and host Fairfax, the number one show.
		A lot of those media anchors may not say it to your face, but they're Council on Foreign Relations members.
		They go off to the Bilderberg Group meetings that are now being publicized.
		They're calling for what the government... What do you mean, the people that are in charge?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Like, people in charge of CNN and places like that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we know Ted Turner gave a billion bucks to the UN.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, come on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think Ted Turner gives a lot of money out for tax purposes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think it probably helps give money out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, I mean, I've talked to you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You talk a lot about the New World Order when we talk in person, but I mean, are you saying this government... No, look, look, I'm not saying that I don't believe in the New World Order.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't... Excuse me, sorry, I got a little cough.
		And I'm not saying that I don't believe that the government has its hand in everything that goes on all over the world.
		And I'm not saying that I don't think that Osama bin Laden probably did at one point in time work as an employee or, you know, hired out by the CIA.
		It's all very possible.
unidentified		You know, I don't know whether or not it's true, and it's all very possible.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Joe, I've been... I know that the government does a lot of very questionable things to keep us in line.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, I've been sitting here jousting with you and enjoying it.
		Can you do one more quick second before I get to these calls?
		Absolutely, sure.
		Because I want to hear what Joe Rogan came on the air to talk about, and I want to hear what you have to say about this, and who you speculate may be involved.
		We'll get that from Joe Rogan, host of Fear Factor, number one show, and then your calls.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're back live, we're talking to Joe Rogan.
		He is, of course, the number one host right now on the show Fear Factor.
		I'm told maybe even hosting two shows at one time, though I'm not supposed to talk about that.
		Heard about it from the wicked Kevin.
		And we've got a bunch of callers.
		I know you've been holding them.
		We're gonna get to you.
		And I got a ton of news.
		The latest developments.
		Now up to four or five buildings that blew up and turned into rubble.
		Two buildings hit by two different planes.
		Pentagon attacked.
		Large passenger jet crashed into Id.
		Another one went down, somehow, on the outskirts of Pittsburgh, PA.
		Joe, just for you, because we're all about the documentation, I'm going to post stories about the Justice Department writing scripts for Law & Order.
		Really?
		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And where did this come from?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, ABC, NBC, MSNBC... ABC and NBC have admitted to the Justice Department writing scripts for Law & Order?
		Yeah, so you're out there... Why Law & Order?
		Do what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Why law and order?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How much of those shows?
		It literally has nothing to do with keeping people in line or, you know, the... Oh, yeah, showing you phony court proceedings where the judge is the boss and violates the Constitution.
		Look, I didn't write it.
		I mean, they did.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I would be more than happy to read it, but, like, you know, obviously I can't comment on it until I read it.
		You know, I do know people who run television shows.
		I know a lot of people who run a lot of the top-rated shows.
		I know the guy who invented... who wants to marry a multimillionaire and all these other crazy shows that are on television.
		Despite what people think of the motives of all these people putting these shows on for, you know, larger, grander, eviler reasons.
		Or evil reasons, rather.
		These people just are at the rating.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Joe, I understand.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I can see it from this side.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I understand they sit around and think, what will sell?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What will people buy?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's all they do.
		That's literally all they do.
		And they bring them to the people who run the networks, who I've also met.
		Not only are these people evil, not only are these people working for the government, they're all hustlers.
		They're all putting things in front of you that they think you'll buy.
		You know?
		It's a guy walking down the street, hey man, you want to buy a watch?
		That's what a network executive is.
		It's just in a grander scale.
		It's sitcoms, it's variety shows, it's reality shows, whatever it is.
		Just there to get your attention and to get your money.
		They're just there so you'll tune in and buy a Toyota truck or, you know, tie detergent.
		That's what it's there for.
		That's all it's there for.
		So all this crazy notion that the government is, you know, using us like puppets through the media is ridiculous.
		I'm deep, deep, deep inside the media, okay?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, just because you did that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know exactly what goes on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know who these people are.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to start emailing you the stories.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but I'm telling you that the sources of these stories are very suspect.
		I don't necessarily believe them.
		And I think they sound like a ridiculous notion, and I don't think people would deny it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Henry Kissinger and others, and I have the news stories here, were on TV tonight saying we need to give up our liberties for security.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you agree that we should give up our liberties?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Were you on TV tonight?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Henry Kissinger, former governor of, uh... We're still talking about giving up what liberties, though?
		What are we talking about?
		Well, we need to go through checkpoints, show our papers, all of that.
		Joe, you know that stinks to high heaven.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I do think it stinks to high heaven, but you know what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When there are people like people who live in Palestine, who raise their children in schools, and there's a sign in a school, and I've seen this, there's a photograph of a school that in, you know, whatever their language is, it said, today's children are tomorrow's holy martyrs.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but Joe, I thought you just said we shouldn't demonize them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We don't know if they did it yet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying.
		I'm not saying if they did it or if anybody does it, but I'm saying people with that kind of conviction, the kind of conviction to raise your child to think that it's a fantastic thing to be a holy martyr is a scary thing.
		Well, Joe... See, the people in this country that use religion Like, world leaders that use religion in this country, or rather politicians who do, they use it as a tool.
		They manipulate people.
		We all know.
unidentified		You know, they say... No, Joe, there's no manipulation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		...and then they go off and they have an altruist affair.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, I know these politicians.
		I know you do, but what I'm saying is... No, there's no motives.
		They're not corrupt.
unidentified		Of course they're corrupt.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know these politicians.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		But that's what I'm saying, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're good.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		These are guys that are living the life.
		They don't have conviction in their beliefs.
		Hey, I know, George Bush... And the Islamic terrorists...
		Those guys have full conviction and they're ready to die.
		You know why?
		Because they live in a sandbox.
		Life sucks when you live in a sandbox.
		There's nothing over there.
		But they're told that if they kill themselves, they become a martyr, they get the pleasure of many, many virgins.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They go to Valhalla.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They go to Allah.
		They believe that, man, because they have to believe that because life sucks over there.
		There's no freedom and those people are very, very dangerous people.
		I absolutely believe that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The point I'm trying to make here is, You just said that politicians are corrupt, and then earlier you said don't bash the Arabs saying they did it, and then you're talking about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, look, I'm not bashing the Arabs saying that they did it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I am just saying that the Palestinian children that I saw in this news special grow up in a very sick environment, and they are raised to think that killing people and killing yourself in the process is a holy thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Joe, you've said it to me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're against You know, this out-of-control gun control... I'm absolutely against out-of-control gun control, because you know what?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Good people should have guns, too.
		If stupid people have guns, and scary people and criminals have guns, and you take them away from good people, it's the, you know, it's the old cliche.
		You take away the guns, and only bad people have guns.
		That's absolutely the case.
		And you know what?
		Guns are like anything else.
		You could kill someone with a car.
		Taking away a gun does not keep people from killing people.
		You're always going to have knives for food and to eat.
		You're always going to have tools to dig with.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Joe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, if Hollywood isn't about manipulating perception, why are they so outrageously against the Second Amendment and peddling misinformation?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, come on, all of them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're just up there, just out of control, 24-7, turning their guns.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you, Hollywood is not about misinformation.
		Hollywood is about tricking you.
		Hollywood is about misinformation when it comes to relationships, like how rosy and perfect they are for Father Knows Best people.
		You know why?
		Because when people come home from a day that sucks, When they work a hard day's work and they come home and they have a beer, they don't want to see depressing things.
		They want to see utopia.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, you said yourself to me in Austin, we are one season away from The Running Man.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I said three seasons and I still believe that a show like that is possible.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you know what the other thing I said, I said a few terrorist acts against the United States or maybe a war, the lower people's, you know, value of what human life is, is all it'll take before we become desensitized to the point Well, we can't see people die on TV.
unidentified		I absolutely believe that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Desensitization.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now we're talking, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		I think that's also a product of letting people have the internet as a boundless freedom of speech, almost like pirate radio for the whole world.
		Which is how I view the Internet.
		On the Internet, everybody can say anything, whatever they want.
		Put them on a website with graphic images, with crazy movies.
		They can do anything.
		And they're really basically broadcasting it to the entire world, but they have no regulation whatsoever.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Again we're talking to Joe Rogan and he of course was a popular character on NewsRadio
		and of course the host of the number one NBC show, number one show period, Fear Factor,
		which is going into at least two more seasons.
		He may be hosting other shows on top of it.
		And Joe, I can't wait until that film that you guys are making premieres and I hope you
		come to Austin for one of the premieres.
		All I can say to all of this is, I know you're a smart guy.
		I know you know about the New World Order.
		You're doing very well in this whole system, and I'm not even saying your show is bad compared to all the rest, and it's your First Amendment right, people's right to watch it.
		Turn it off.
		So I don't get into all of that stuff, but you don't have to defend this system that is trying to trample our rights.
		This news media that's conditioning us to give up our liberties for security.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's all in the news wires.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What liberties do you think that they're asking us for?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Listen, Joe, I got video of military checkpoints on I-35 in Texas.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Isn't this what you thought?
		I understand that, but isn't this what you thought about the Oklahoma City thing, too?
		You thought that that was rigged in order to take our liberties away, too?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, all I know is I've driven through military checkpoints where they're pulling housewives out of their cars.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Did you say that?
		You told me that Oklahoma City was staged by the government.
		That they knew about it in advance, and they let it go on because they wanted to take away American liberty.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Take the World Trade Center bombing, the first one in 1993.
		They trained the bomber, they gave him the bombing materials.
		What has changed?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What liberties have we lost since then?
		What have they accomplished?
		Let me answer your question.
		If you're saying that they let that be accomplished, what have they gained?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me answer your question.
		We now have FEMA command centers, underground bunkers in every city.
		We have face scanning cameras going up, run by Lockheed Martin defense contractors.
		We have the Anti-Terrorism Effective Death Penalty Act passed, 60 new ways, reasons to execute it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Lockheed Martin also has, they have a division that has traffic devices.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They also have those cameras to take pictures of you if you go across red light.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they were just found to be unconstitutional because they were rigging them.
		And you didn't even have a trial.
		You just were sent a ticket by the defense contractor.
		Absolutely.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And the reason being is that they were getting paid per ticket.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		So they shortened the amount of yellow time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I understand that, Joe.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've had Dick Armey's office on one hundred.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's a business.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying that that is a business.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've shown you we have lost a lot of freedoms, Joe.
		In a hundred school districts, kids are thumb scanned to get their school lunches.
		Training them for the cashless society.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Thumb scanned in order to get their lunches.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, biometrics.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about something that I'm not aware of, so I can't comment on it.
		You know, and as far as thumb scanning, I mean, look...
		If there is really a threat to this government, or really a threat to this society, outside of the United States, I think we have to protect ourselves from it.
		I think the government has to protect us from it.
		Now, I think the real question that you have, and the question that I have is, is this a real threat, or is this a manipulation by the government?
		I mean, the people that do think the New World Order exists, they basically think that the United States controls the strings for every country, and every religious group, and every Well, no, they don't think the U.S., Joe, they don't think the U.S.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		does.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's the IMF and World Bank and Federal Reserve and the financial systems that get all these countries in debt.
unidentified		The U.S.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		is the smartest, obviously, because the U.S.
		has the most military might, the U.S.
		has the most power.
		He with the biggest guns is the one that calls the shots.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I don't even say it's our government.
		It's the elements that are in there running it.
		And I look at the evidence every day, Joe.
		Look, you were all angry about this Your take on it.
		You know, Joe Rogan won an event.
		I'm glad to have you here on the show, bud.
		What was it?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		My take on it, really, right now, Alex, to be honest with you...
		It's a horrible tragedy.
		I feel for everyone who was there, everyone who had family that was there, everyone on board the planes and family, the people on board the planes.
		I don't know who did it.
		I'm shocked, and I'm freaked out, and I sincerely hope that this isn't an end to personal liberties that we all enjoy.
		I do, however, think that they should be a lot better in checking at the airport.
		I do, however, think that they should probably even have armed security on the airport like they have in Israel.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the difference.
		Chuckie Schumer supports the senator.
		Taking our money to buy Israeli troops M-16s, which is fine, okay?
		And arming the teachers and the schools, and then the terrorism goes down.
		But he supports complete disarmament.
		That's his own statement of the American people.
		They said back in the 1980s, with all the hijackings, put an armored bulkhead door Well, you know what, Alex?
		They're never going to take guns away.
		area can't get in there. Why didn't they do that Joe? And look, they're going to leave
		our southern border wide open. They're going to give the Chinese military Panama Canal,
		which happened two years ago, and they're going to tell you and I that we have to give
		up our rights for security. They're doing it right now on the news.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well you know what Alex? They're never going to take guns away. Because first of all, people
		are always going to be able to hunt. And you're always going to be able to have rifles.
		That's just a fact.
		They're never going to take your rifles and your shotguns.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They did it in England and Australia?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They never thought it would happen to them?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In England and Australia, they were never allowed to have in the first place, and they still are allowed to have rifles.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That is not true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They could have automatic weapons in Australia.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about Australia.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And their crime rate has now tripled since they took the guns, which you agree with?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's always going to be that way.
		Look, criminals, they're not going to pay attention.
		Oh, I won't get a gun now because it's the law.
		I mean, that's ridiculous.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, I have guns myself, you know, and I support law-abiding citizens' use of guns.
		I support people who hunt for food.
		I'm a mediator myself.
		I've been hunting, I've been fishing a bunch of times.
		Nothing wrong with guns.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But it's about defense against tyranny.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's about defense against tyranny.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		Taking guns is not going to solve that.
		I absolutely agree with you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think, you know, at this point in time, we're walking a very slippery slope with trying to protect ourselves and, you know, trying to make sure that the government doesn't take personal freedoms away from us while we're protecting ourselves.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, I agree with you, but let's take Santa Clarita.
		Two weeks ago, four East German APCs go in.
		I have the photos and the video from the L.A.
		Times.
		They're firing M60 machine guns into the wrong houses.
		I mean, that is not America.
		Guys in black uniforms and black APCs.
		Well, not guys.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Germany.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what you just said, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do what, sir?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You said it was Germany?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They were driving East German APCs.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And this happened in Germany?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, this happened just north of LA.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You heard about it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The guy's house burning down, the APCs, the shootout.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, what are you saying?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're saying that this guy has military equipment?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, the police!
		It's L.A.
		Times!
		Four black East German APCs that used to oppress the East German people were bought a few years ago.
		They're in the neighborhood shooting up the wrong houses, going nuts.
		It turns out they shot their own officers and then tried to frame this guy they killed with it.
		That's in the L.A.
		Times.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I didn't read that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what that story's about, but what does that have to do with, you know, the government taking away our liberties by blowing up gigantic buildings and killing Possibly tens of thousands.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, come back to Austin, Joe, and when you do, I'll take you downtown and show you lines of black APCs and face scanning cameras.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		I believe that they do have stuff like that in, you know, in use, but I don't know for a fact that that isn't just to protect us from criminals.
		You know, I haven't seen any arguments that that's used to take our personal liberties away.
		I have seen arguments, you know, saying that they have caught people with these.
		Now, I don't know what's propaganda and what's true.
		You know, maybe I can read more about it, and we can have a more informed debate, but... Okay, Joe, let's... You don't necessarily think it's bad if you're not a bad person.
		If the society runs rampant with criminals, and they can't find out who they are, and they have some detection device where they can find a dangerous criminal before, you know, he robs and kills my mother, I'm all in favor of putting that out there.
		You know why?
		Because if they scan my face and put it out there, I don't do anything for the... Oh, you don't have anything to hide.
		I don't have anything to hide.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've heard that before, Joe.
unidentified		Come on.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		Look, if the government wanted to plant something on me and send me up the river for something I didn't commit, I think they could do it no matter what.
		I don't think they need face scanning to do it.
		It treats us as if we're guilty.
		I think it's ridiculous that they have a picture of your face.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It treats us as if we're guilty.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They couldn't do it any other way.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But it treats us as if we're guilty until proven innocent.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Joe, last question, and I appreciate it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		A photograph of us does not treat you as guilty until proven innocent. It's a photograph of you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's all it says.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It scans all your faces into the database.
unidentified		But Joe...
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It scrutinizes you, but how is that different from having cops on corners looking at you?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a big difference.
		Joe, let's talk about this.
		If they find out who did this, first off, who do you think may have done it?
		And then number two, if they find out who did it, what should be done?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You know what? I wouldn't even try to guess who has done it.
		I'm sure there are many, many, many countries, and I know there are,
		that are enemies of the United States of America.
		We're the fat cats with all the money and playboy playmates and all that good stuff, and that's how they look at us.
		And I'm sure they hate us in more ways than one.
		They hate our lifestyle, they hate our religion, they hate all sorts of things.
		I wouldn't guess who out of all those people would do it.
		What I think is important right now is that, you know, one of the things that I've noticed today, walking around and talking to people, is that so many people are friendlier today, they're more humble, there's like a sense of humanity today, people are smiling to people they weren't, they're opening doors to people, they're being friendly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Coming together under the new world order?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		no i'm not think i'm together i think recognizing that we're all people and
		sometimes we take that for granted sometimes it takes a tragedy people to come together and
		and drop all the pf that motivate the now i hear you know i jealousy
		and all the stupid stuff something like this put things in perspective and you
		realize really we're just a bunch of people hanging out living
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		together but just like pearl harbor that's now on the discovery channel with
		the actual communique a's been in the newspaper
		the government allowed the japanese to attack pearl harbor You know what, I don't think that has anything to do with
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		what I'm talking about.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The positive side, if there is any positive side of a horrible, terrible, evil tragedy like this, the positive side is that sometimes it takes a little something like this for us to jar our senses and think of us as all just people and put aside all our pretenses and just sometimes be happy for life.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, here's the question.
		And really, don't dodge it.
		If we find out Iraq did it, what should we do?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We should bomb them.
		I'm not gonna dodge that at all.
		If we find out absolutely, positively, without a doubt that someone's guilty, they should die.
		That's absolutely a fact.
		I'm all for ridding the world, and the United States for that matter, of people who are evil.
		You know?
		I mean, if we can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is guilty, I'm all for the death penalty.
		It's whether or not we can do that, that is the real question.
		And that, I think, is just as much, if not more, of a threat to the liberty of the people of this country.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, do you want to stay with us and take some calls?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sure, absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		When we come right back, we're going to go to this loaded board of phones.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know this.
		The City of Austin buses are being driven by Austin police since last week.
		They admit they're training to go around and pick up citizens.
		We have a FEMA command center being built.
		And Joe, I have to tell you, you're being particularly aggressive tonight with me, and I have the facts, and I have the evidence, and I'm just as big a know-it-all as you are, and we have the experts on this show, and I'm telling you, we've got a corrupt and tyrannical government gobbling up our freedoms like a vacuum cleaner.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, I agree that we have lost a lot of freedoms in this country, and I agree that there's a lot of problems with our government.
		I'm not saying that.
		I'm not disagreeing with you on that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear about the FBI blowing those guys' heads off?
unidentified		Excuse me?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear about the FBI blowing those innocent guys' heads off up in Michigan?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't hear about this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Is this the pot thing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, you know, I had read several accounts in the area saying that the FBI was fired upon.
		No, yeah, right.
		First of all, you know how I feel.
		I think pot should be legal.
		It's ridiculous.
		I think no grown human being should be able to tell another grown human being what they can and can't do if they're not hurting anybody.
		And the idea that pot, which kills nobody, is hurting somebody is ridiculous.
		Well, it's obvious.
		Caffeine kills 10,000 people a year.
		You know, cigarettes and alcohol, 450,000.
		Zero from pot.
		So the idea that the government is fair and just and protecting us in every way is pretty ridiculous.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad we agree on that and the guns.
		And the guns.
		Let's take calls.
		We've got Joe Rogan, the number one host on TV globally, with us.
		And I know Joe personally, he's a nice guy, but he's shilling for NBC right now, aren't you, Joe?
		Let's go ahead and talk to Clayton in Missouri.
		Clayton, thanks for holding over the last hour and 20 minutes.
		You're on the air, my friend.
unidentified		Okay, Alex.
		While you were talking to Joe, I've been surfing the TV news here, and they are definitely putting the finger on Osama bin Laden.
		They say that they're looking at the passenger manifest list, and one of the lists has a person who they believe is connected to Osama bin Laden.
		The FBI, they say, is going down to Broward County, Florida, in Daytona Beach, Florida, And like the NSA didn't know they were doing this, and like they could take over these planes with box cutters.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure you've heard that, Joe, that people called in from cell phones on board.
		They were hijacking it with box cutters.
		Yeah, I did hear that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And my comment to that to a friend of mine was, you know, people were like, well, why didn't they fight?
		Well, they might have been told that all that was going to happen was that they were going to bring the plane back to Kennedy Airport.
		They were going to make a political statement.
		I mean, we don't know what they told these pastors.
		They totally lulled them into a false sense of security.
		They're not going to tell them, hey, we're going to crash into the World Trade Center and kill you.
		Yeah, but, Joe, I mean... I'm just saying that a lot of people are actually questioning the courage of the people on board.
		Until you're in a situation like that, I don't think you can judge.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've had somebody pull a knife on me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure you, growing up in the East, I mean, I'm sure you had a knife pulled on you once or twice.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		No, I never had a knife pulled on me.
		But, you know, that's beside the point.
		What I'm saying is that we don't know what happened on the plane.
		I mean, they did hijack the plane with box cutters, but if someone pulls out a box cutter and says, don't worry, nobody has to get hurt, we're just going to bring this plane down to the ground, I don't know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but what about the pilots?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, as they were cruising towards that... I had also heard that the flight attendant had been stabbed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was one of the things that 9-1-1 people... We're not going to know for a couple days now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I hear you until they get their spin machine.
		Clayton, thanks for the call.
		Cindy in West Virginia, you're on the air with Joe Rogan.
		Go ahead, Cindy.
unidentified		I've been watching this whole thing and I've got a whole bunch of observations about how this whole thing is going new world order.
unidentified		Um, you know, I'm not sure how Joe's going to react to this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're on the news announcing, give up your rights, we'll keep you safe.
unidentified		Okay, I'm going to tell you about six or seven real brief ones.
		Okay, first of all, they were saying about the terrorism in the airplanes.
		Now, you've mentioned this, that they want to escalate security and make life like we haven't known it before.
		And I know for a fact, and I've heard this from another shortwave host, You've got all those metal detectors.
		Now, if there were knives, box cutters, or even guns, they would have detected them.
		So this had to be an inside job.
		They were let on with those.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you've seen the people that work at the airport checking those metal detectors.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People are too stupid to get a job at Burger King.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, you've been on with us for 55 minutes.
		We've got loaded phone.
		People want to talk to you.
		Are you going to stay with us longer?
		Huh, Joe?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Cindy, stay there.
		We'll let you finish up.
		Then Mary, then Daryl, then Jay.
		Third hour coming up with Joe Rogan, I'm Alex Jones, InfoWars.com.
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		Pacific Standard Time here on Genesis.
		Did you know that I was a writer, researcher, and producer?
		Big Brother.
		Mainstream media.
		Government cover-ups.
		You want answers?
		Well, so does he.
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		And now, live from Austin, Texas, Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, one of the centuries to be remembered throughout the century, one of the stories to be remembered throughout the century, we have The bombing of both World Trade Center buildings using passenger jetliners.
		One also crashed into the Pentagon this morning, and the evidence is just flowing out.
		I'll cover it a little bit later in the show.
		This is a highly orchestrated, complex action.
		Not carried out by people, as Joe Rogan says, living in a sandbox.
		Again, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
		We're talking to Joe Rogan, host of the number one Syndicated show on NBC.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alex, I didn't say the people who did it live in a sandbox.
		I was talking about the people of Palestine who believe that the children of today are the holy martyrs of tomorrow.
		But you were saying we might need a sandbox.
		I did not ever say that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You were saying we might need to give up some of our liberties, though, because of those dangerous people in that sandbox.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, the only liberties I'm talking about are the liberties to safeguard people getting on airplanes.
		I mean, that's what we were talking about.
		As far as going through a bigger search to get on an airplane, I'm all for that.
		You know, I'm all for checking your bags to make sure you don't have any weapons on.
		I think that's a pretty safe thing.
		Yeah, but not on the... It's a safe thing to protect us by having, you know, perhaps police people on, uh, you know, security people on airplanes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What about if they, uh, bomb a highway?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Are we gonna start checking all the cars on the highway?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		I think there's a bigger difference between a statement that's made, you know, with crashing a plane, which has been done today, and done with, you know, an incredible effect.
		There's a big difference between that and thriving.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the New World Order can bring you something bigger, Joe, if you want.
		Let's go back to sending in West Virginia.
		Those other points you wanted to make, Cindy, you're on the air.
		You know what, Alex?
unidentified		I think... Alex?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah?
unidentified		Okay, it's Cindy from Wyoming.
		Okay, already now, Joe, you may object to my saying this too, but it's a proven fact.
		They have x-ray machines at those airports that can see you stark naked.
		So they can see those weapons if they want to.
		And it's a great infringement of privacy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they have those scanners in most airports now.
unidentified		You're right.
unidentified		And I haven't seen them and I travel every month.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I haven't seen any of these scanners, and I travel all the time, but I have seen the people working behind the counter at these airports.
		People working in their security equipment are retarded.
		They're some of the dumbest human beings.
		They're people that are too stupid to be luggage carriers, and they're the ones who are watching those monitors.
		I constantly see them picking their nails, not looking at the screen at all.
		I see it constantly, and it's infuriating.
		If you're a frequent traveler like myself, there's nothing creepier than going through a security checkpoint when people aren't paying attention.
		You love that word.
		Creepy, that's a good word.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We love that word.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm notorious for that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You love that word, creepy.
		That's a good word.
		Cindy, your other points real quick.
unidentified		My other points are, Kofi Annan came out and denounced us today, and they're going to
		have a UN Security Council meeting about it.
		Now, my speculation is that... Oh, the UN's going to save us!
		Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
		They're going to take whoever it is, Osama bin Laden or whoever it is, they're going to put them under the International Criminal Court, and all the people in the United States of America are going to say, Oh, isn't this wonderful?
		Now, I've got a couple other ones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, Joe, the criminal court does not allow juries.
		You can't face your accuser.
		Double jeopardy is reinstalled.
		They can hold you for 30 years without a trial.
		Do you support the U.N.
		taking control of our court system?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course I don't.
		Well, I don't support, you know, any... Look, I don't support the Constitution as it stands right now.
		I think the Constitution should reflect the will of the people.
		And because it's a piece of paper that was printed a long time ago, I think there's certain things that our forefathers wanted to put in the Constitution that they didn't.
		Like, they wanted to put a 2% tax ceiling.
		That a 2% would be the highest tax you have to pay.
		But they didn't put it in there because they could never conceive of it getting that high.
		There's a lot of things that are in our Constitution.
		What our Constitution reflects is, it should reflect the will of the people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you could have mobocracy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We need a rule of law and a republic.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, what I'm saying is bringing the U.N.
		in does not reflect the will of the people.
		That does not reflect how Americans want to be judged.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know the U.N.' 's going to try to bask in the light of this as our savior.
		I think that's what Cindy's saying.
		Cindy, thanks for the call.
		Joe, we've got a long segment coming up.
		The final segment will keep you on.
		I appreciate all the time.
		About 15 more minutes.
		We'll come back and talk to Mary, Daryl, Jay, Dot, and many others that are holding.
		If you'd like to join us on air from anywhere in the country, You're welcome to do so on the AM and FM, the internet and the shortwave by dialing 1-800-259-9231 and the date 9-1-1.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Make no mistake, this country and your freedoms are in the crosshairs.
		People are wringing their hands.
		Something must be done.
		And the answer?
		Give up your liberty for security.
		We need troops on the streets.
		I have the mainstream media quotes here from world leaders saying that is exactly what should happen.
		We have a surprise guest this evening.
		He's Joe Rogan.
		Host, of course, of the number one syndicated show right now in all of television, Fear Factor, and my good buddy.
		We're having a spirited debate here tonight, and Joe is not defending the New World Order.
		He just simply doesn't think things are as bad as we're covering, probably because he's not here every day, Joe, in the trenches, covering the documents.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		This is what I think, Alex.
		This is my take on you, and you know you're my friend and I love you and everything, but this is my take on you.
		You do yourself a disservice by saying that you're absolutely positive about things that I don't think you are.
		I think by saying that you know the answer to everything, you make the whole notion ridiculous.
		The whole notion that you're this guy that uncovers all these conspiracies, you have the exact answer to everything, is pretty ludicrous.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, Joe, since you were aggressive, I'm going to counter you.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of disinformation, I absolutely agree that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of disinformation by our own government, by the media, by all sorts of things, but I don't think you know the answer to all of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Joe, I know this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And you say you do, and that's where you lose credibility with a lot of intelligent people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, I know this, since you're being aggressive, what you're good at is, and these are some of the private arguments we've had, Joe, I'm here to tell you right now that Ritalin is Clogs more neuroreceptors than cocaine.
		70% when cocaine does 50.
		It's very damaging.
		It shrinks brains.
		It expands hearts.
		It retards the growth in children.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hold on!
		Let me finish and tell you where I'm going with this.
		And I've had the neuroscientist, the brain surgeon, on to cover it.
		I've read about how they're putting cancer viruses in the vaccines across the board.
		Why cancer is exploding.
		I've gone right down the line on all of this.
		We evidence it every Nauseam, so to just sit there and say, I claim I have all the answers.
		I know gun control's wrong.
		I know SWAT teams are raiding innocent people's houses.
		I know the military's hitting whole neighborhoods here in Texas searching for drugs that the government ships in, and that's been proven even in Esquire magazine.
		I've interviewed former CIA officers that shipped it in.
		I don't make any of this stuff.
		Joe, I have the newscast of Oklahoma City with them bringing the unexploded bombs out of a building.
		I've had the former head of Air Force Weapons Development on this show to say that building was blown out.
		Not in.
		When I'm not making this stuff up, Joe, you just can't admit how far we've slipped down into it, so you're telling me I'm doing a disservice, and it's not true!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think you're doing yourself a disservice, and I think a lot of things that you do are fantastic.
		I think you've got a huge heart.
		I think you're a really, really competent guy, and you've got a lot of balls, and that's what this country needs, is someone who will stand in front of Janet Rideau and question her on what happened at Waco.
		I agree with you on that.
		I agree with you on when you have proof, the way you have conviction, the way you have courage and you go after it.
		I think everybody admires that.
		I think it's a fantastic thing that you do.
		When I think you lose me is when I think you use something that's based on speculation, you use something that may or may not be true, and you state it as an absolute.
		And in fact, when any intelligent person listening knows there's got to be some other possibilities.
		Okay, Joe, I'll tell you this.
		And you don't absolutely know the answer to all this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, your answer, before we go back to these calls, and I appreciate you joining us, Joe Rogan, my answer to that is, I have the NSA documents.
		I've had Bamford on the show.
		It's confirmed in the news, these are real documents, that the Feds are planning to blow up airliners, bomb ships, bomb Washington, to blame it on Cuba for a pretext in 1962.
		And Kennedy said no.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've had the historians on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I didn't say the government did it.
		I'm saying they're one of the prime suspects that stands to gain.
		Isn't it interesting that the stock market was crashing on Friday, and then on Monday, globally, and suddenly, the World Financial Center gets bombed?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What you just used as an example, the paper that Bamford talked about, was based on something that was rejected in 1962.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It was never instituted.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Kennedy nixed it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, whether or not that's true, I don't know.
		And I've heard a lot of people say that they don't agree with Bamford's book.
		So you've heard about it in the original book, The Puzzle House.
		Is that what it was called?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the first one... I've heard some very controversial takes on that, but again, I haven't... In 86, it was the Puzzle Palace, and you've got a good memory, Joe, and that was before... It wasn't until last year they admitted that Echelon's listening to everything, but it's to keep us safe.
unidentified		Well, it obviously didn't keep us safe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, don't you think that some of these books that people write about... I mean, half of it is propaganda, and half of it is real things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute, James Bamford... Like, Behold a Pale White Horse.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever read that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a lot of misinformation.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of crazy stuff in there about the government having alien bases on the dark side of the moon... Yeah, see, Joe, you've fallen for something here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We don't talk about that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We talk about... Okay, let me give you something.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What I'm just saying is, there's a lot of books like that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, what would you do if you found out the U.N.
		took over 70% of our landmass?
		October 18th of 2000.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They took over 70% of our United States landmass?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		In what way?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How did they take over?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You can read the actual treaty at InfoWars.com or listen to an interview with Congressman Ron Paul.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They signed over the country to the UN, sir.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, again, I'd have to read the comments on it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I got a Washington Post report from three weeks ago under the UN gavel admitting they claim they run our courts and are going to get rid of juries.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the National Bar Association in Chicago, Chicago Tribune, agrees.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, again, I would have to read this, Alex.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I really don't know what to say.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ask your lawyer if they're talking about that, and then ask them if they're talking about getting rid of attorney-client privilege.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've heard arguments to that, too.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		People say that it's very difficult to prosecute when an attorney is with a despicable person that admits all these things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You've heard about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The point is, I'm not making any of this up, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I know you're not making that up, but I'm not saying you ever make anything up.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying is that you state some things as fact.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like you said in front of that crowd of a thousand people or whatever here in Austin when I was up there on stage with you.
		You said, Alex, how much information is accurate?
		And I go, 110%.
		None of us are 110%.
		I try to get it 110% right, and I know we have to have rudders, Joe.
		We have to have a direction, because the New World Order has a direction.
		And if we don't stand up to them, we're going to get run over by it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I understand it, but sometimes when you go after something and you go after it, you yourself, as entertainment, you yourself go after it because it's a hot topic.
		You yourself chase it down, and you may draw a conclusion based on speculation that you will state as fact.
		There's a lot of different points of view out there and a lot of different things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, take Kevin Moon.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And if you've been there, you're going to base, you know, the popular news, like broadcast news, or are you going to use, like, news from other countries?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's going to be a variety of different reports.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I use it all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I cross-reference it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I've got... Look, Joe, what I'm saying is... I know, but I'm saying sometimes they can flick.
		Joe, before we go to these calls... You have to admit...
		If you weren't there, you don't necessarily know exactly what's going on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I remember that all day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I say it all the time.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, the mere fact that they still insist on saying the single bullet theory is how Kennedy and Connolly both got shot with the same bullet.
		Come on, this is ridiculous.
		We all know that.
		But our government still insists on saying that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying flying saucers run things?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying flying saucers run things, but I... But you just said we all know a single bullet did it.
		I think the U.S.
		government saying that the single bullet theory is a possibility is admitting... Flying saucers, conspiracies!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Flying saucers, conspiracies!
		Well, I absolutely believe that the government... I think it's a little arrogant of you, Joe, to make that conclusion when you don't know the facts.
		I think you're doing it for entertainment right now.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what?
		I'm just being honest.
		I'm stating my opinion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Obviously, that bullet that wasn't even damaged or bent, that would get more damage being shot into water, didn't do that, didn't turn all those different directions.
		I agree with you.
		And I'll tell you right now, the government blew Kennedy's head off, and we have the proof.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, Alex, this is all based on fact.
unidentified		The bullet.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We know for a fact that didn't do it.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		We know for a fact that the government knows that that didn't happen.
unidentified		And we know that Oklahoma City proves to us that they are liars.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		See Joe?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It proves they're liars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, in an area that you are educated on, you agree with me.
		Guns.
		Kennedy.
		But in other areas, you know what?
		I'm just going to start emailing you stuff and shipping you stuff daily.
		How's that sound?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what I need.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		More email.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I only get thousands a day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, really, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		How about I just start... Look, I would love to read these things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		If I did, I'd probably go nuts, just like you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, we're going to break your conditioning.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm scanning the internet 24 hours a day and getting my sources from the Mossad and the BBC sending me things.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Look, you could go into it forever, ad nauseam.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me give you an example, Joe, and then we will go to these calls.
		I'm honored to have Joe Rogan, number one TV host in the country on the show.
		You can count him as a friend.
		Joe, take our good buddy Kevin Booth, who was the producer for Bill Hicks, and the film that you and he are making.
		I've got a small part in.
		When I'm dressed up like George Bush in a devil outfit, and that brings us into our next segway, Kevin always goes, you say Bush was in a devil outfit, you don't, and I know Kevin's putting this on his side and he's listening right now, you say Bush was in a devil outfit, you didn't see Bush.
		You're talking about Bohemian Grove.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Bohemian Grove, yeah.
		I don't watch that tape, and it's a little sketchy.
		Whatever they're doing is stupid and goofy.
		Whether or not it's demonic is questionable.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, they're worshiping Moloch.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here's the point I'm making.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It looks more like a retarded fraternity initiation.
unidentified		See?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're conditioned.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The point is... Conditioned by retarded fraternities.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I should be careful of that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, let me finish.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me just finish.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes they offer you free cookies.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Huh?
unidentified		Oh look, cookies!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Cookie!
unidentified		There you go, bro.
unidentified		Makes me so mad!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Joke!
		You better watch it, because your audience is going to see the other side of you.
		Come on, Alex Jones!
		They're going to see that.
		They're going to see it right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows I'm a human.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Get comfortable with me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Go back to your radio personality, please.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go back.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Stop being the real Alex Jones.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Go back to the fake guy that's on the radio.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not a fake guy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm worried about my family, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I'm worried about mine too.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		See, you think everybody's fake.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm on your radio voice, my friend.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So don't sit there and say I'm fake.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		About what?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now look, the point I'm trying to make here is, Kevin says you didn't run out, you don't have Bush on tape.
		He was in CNN that he was there, his limousine pulled in when he was governor, and then I don't... Hold on, let me finish.
		I don't run up to George Bush, who had me arrested in 98, that was in the newspaper, for confronting him.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I saw that tape.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You've seen the footage.
		Okay, see, that's documented, too.
		The point is, I didn't run up to go, Mr. Bush, I like your black devil outfit, your black robe, and stick a camera in his nose.
		I hid in the woods and shot it.
		So Kevin goes, you can't prove Bush was there.
		And I go, well, here's CNN.
		And you know, that's his whole argument.
		So to say it's not documented.
		It is documented, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It is documented that he is there.
		I agree with you on that.
		What I don't agree with you in is what it is.
		I think it's a stupid initiation for some sort of a goofy group they all belong to.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, like Skull and Bones?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The devil is another story.
		The fact that they all meet and congregate secretly is very scary and very dangerous.
		And my... You think it smacks of the New World Order.
		I absolutely believe you in that.
		But the fact they work for the devil by dressing in stupid robes, I think it's just dumb.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, that's because you're not a sicko and you can't imagine how sick they are.
		Alright, let's take some calls.
		One more segment, Joe.
		Callers, be patient.
		I'm really out of control tonight.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, I appreciate Joe staying with us so long, but we're basically jousting back and forth.
		He doesn't agree that things are as deep and dark and ugly as the evidence clearly shows when you're looking at it daily.
		With that aside, let's take a few final calls and we'll let Joe get out of here and get back to business.
		And we'll continue with your calls in the final 30 minutes of the show.
		And I've got to hit on some of this news and the developments and what it's doing to the economic markets.
		It's really the story of the day and this horrible tragedy with the mass bombings all over the country.
		The destruction of at least five of the different towers, of the seven towers of the World Trade Center, the two largest obviously going down.
		Pentagon being bombed.
		Let's go to Mary in Oklahoma.
		You're on the air.
		Mary, go ahead.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Well, first of all, I'm going to say that in spite of other reports on shortwave, gasoline is available here in Oklahoma City for like $1.57, $1.59.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Rudge has an AP story on his website saying that it's Four bucks in Indianapolis, Indiana.
		Thanks for the call, Mary.
		I gotta jump.
		Let's go ahead and talk to Daryl in Texas.
		You're on the air, Daryl, and jump at any time, Joe.
unidentified		Hello, and I want to say hello to you, Alex, and to Joe.
		Even though he disagrees, he seems open-minded, well-thought-out, very articulate.
		Thanks, Joe.
		Joe, you commented that the people at these airports couldn't hold a job at Burger King, and I guess I would say that I agree with that.
		But really, that's not our fault.
		In other words, because the airlines won't hire competent people, should I have to, for example, be watched by a camera from the highway that can see into the bedroom of my house?
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't necessarily think that's the way to go with it.
		I think they certainly need to step up security in airport checkpoints, though.
		When you step through, I think they should have competent professionals who are really diligent and who pay attention and treat it like the important You know, a very significant thing that it is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's... Yeah, but Joe, now they've got infrared cameras at the seat of your house.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		They've got sonar cameras... That has nothing to do with the airport checkpoints.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what we're talking about right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but the Defense Department... It all is a package, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's what we're talking about.
		What I'm saying right now, what I said is the people that work the airport checkpoints are stupid.
		We need to get smart people in there, and we need to make it much more difficult for somebody... Joe, hold on a second.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a... Hold on a second.
		It's a package.
		And the Defense Department is giving these snooping technologies to police departments, and that's wrong, and it's going to be much easier as a pretext now because of these bombings.
		Go ahead and finish up there, Darryl.
unidentified		Go ahead.
		Well, let me say this.
		When you speak of terrorism protection, you cannot get 100% unless everyone is in lockdown.
		And, for example, let me say this.
		You could put forth the idea I think that you could prevent child abuse if we all had cameras in our house.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know what, Darrell, that's a good point, and I don't agree with losing any of our liberties, but I don't necessarily think we're losing any liberties to have more competent people work security checkpoints.
unidentified		Joe, let me follow up on that with this.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Joe, I'm not arguing that!
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's Israel, and Israel has armed people, armed guards, on their planes to keep them from getting hijacked.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, they also have armed populations, but here's the point I'm trying to make.
		In Michigan, where they had some vandalism of bathrooms, they're putting cameras in the bathrooms.
		Associated Press.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Now, come on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's bad.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is bad.
		That is bad.
		You know what?
		Vandalism is not a big enough deal to warrant taking away your personal freedom.
		I absolutely agree.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nothing is.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Unconstitutional.
		I think it's unethical.
		I think it should be removed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We didn't punish these terrorists before, and that's why this is happening regardless.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Now, this is saying that it's definitely these, quote-unquote, these terrorists.
		We don't know who it is.
		Just like in Oklahoma City, we didn't know who it is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we all heard it was McVeigh acting alone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The feds won't release the blow.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, we didn't hear that initially.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Surveillance cameras.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		The initial reports, they were looking for Islamic fundamentalist terrorists.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That was the initial reports out of Oklahoma City.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I remember.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Okay, but that's what I'm talking about right now.
		We're talking about something that happened today, and you're already saying, these terrorists, we should have done something to these terrorists.
		You even said yourself that it could have been Europeans trying to screw up our stock market.
		We don't know who this is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but when I said that, you laughed.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I think that's really important.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		When a lot of the evidence... It's really important to admit that we don't know yet.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When a lot of the evidence... That's what you don't do.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That's why I have a problem with you, my friend.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A lot of it aims that direction.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't know.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You don't know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I guess I don't know anything.
		I'll just sit here... You know a lot.
		I'll just sit here as the black ski mask thugs run over me.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		These terrorists, but we don't know who these terrorists are.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's just go ahead and give up our rights and then... Let's just go ahead and give up our rights and let the UN run everything and then we'll be alright.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying that.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying you do yourself a disservice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what Henry Kissinger is saying.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		And call those conclusions that are based on speculation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's what Governor Frank Keating is saying, Joe.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		That is my one problem with you and your show.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Other than that, I think you do a great service.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is that I don't vacillate.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		You're a heroic guy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't vacillate while we're losing our freedoms.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, I know you want freedom.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, and I know you do too.
		I just think In your approach, you are going about it in the wrong way, and you're doing yourself a disservice.
		You, I think, are very intelligent.
		I think you're a good-hearted guy, and I know you're very courageous, and I know you're trying to do the right thing.
		I'm just saying, when you draw conclusions based on speculation, and you call those conclusions a fact, and say you know, you do yourself and your whole approach a disservice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I know the government covered up the Oklahoma City bombing, and I know they're brainwashing our kids to turn in Mommy and Daddy for guns.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		I have heard stories that the government covered it up, and I have heard stories that the government didn't want to admit that they had a man inside.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Joe, we gotta go, but I really appreciate you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You take care, bud.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright, I'm getting a lot of emails from people that like Joe Rogan being on, a lot of them that are angry.
		I meant to have Joe up for about 15 minutes, and I caught myself running over him because he was running over me, and Joe's like that.
		He's all about getting in people's faces.
		And, you know, you talk to Joe privately, he agrees with a lot more of this stuff.
		I guess when you, you know, become Mr. Number One Network Show on television, you get, I don't know, he believes in a lot of the system, he disagrees with a lot of it.
		But you see, when he said that the lone bullet didn't kill Kennedy, I said, oh yeah, a flying saucer's conspiracy, because that's what he tries with me.
		That's what a lot of my friends here in Austin do.
		Man, Joe was coming into Austin this weekend to work on some stuff with us about the New World Order, and also with a comedy film that Kevin Booth's producing.
		But I, you know, I sit there and I watch this and it's the same thing with our public.
		There are a lot of good people out there, a lot of good police, a lot of good military, a lot of good, you know, number one TV host, but they just can't face the system.
		And, you know, going out to dinner with Joe and stuff, he'll sit there, and I know Joe's going to hear this tape later or is listening live right now, because I know Kevin's going to post it on his website, And Joe just kept saying at dinner and stuff, man, I know it's an act.
		I know you don't totally believe all this.
		Come on, tell me it's an act.
		I'm like, no, this stuff's real, Joe.
		Here's the evidence.
		Here's the evidence.
		And he just, he agrees with a lot of it, but he just can't go all the way.
		And that's the problem.
		We're in a very dangerous situation in this country.
		And everybody knows the trade centers have been bombed.
		Everybody knows the Pentagon got attacked.
		And just the evidence on my website, if I would have talked all three hours, never taken a call, or never had Joe on, or never had an eyewitness, Like Jimmy Righton, who was there at the World Financial Center across the street, I could never have gotten all this.
		I mean, there's just too much of it.
		Central banks promised support.
		Central banks around the world have said they are willing to provide cash in the banking system in the hope of preventing financial instability in the wake of the U.S.
		attacks.
		That's really the real news here, is that the financial system is melting down, and it was melting down up until Monday.
		And this is a stopgap measure to shut down the markets while they engage in manipulation.
		It's a long story.
		They talk about martial law in it.
		It says, new information points to Bin Laden, the Patsy.
		We have the text of Bush's address on the side.
		Rescuers expect thousands dead, and now say 20,000 to 30,000, maybe even 50,000 dead.
		Financial world rocked.
		Not only could financial markets plummet in the wake of the attacks in the United States, but consumer Sentiment could also suffer, say, economy watchers.
		That's why I say the EU branch of the New World Order is behind this.
		Taliban denies Bin Laden responsible.
		They don't want to get nuked.
		Plus, I have fake terror, the road to dictatorship, the history of the oldest trick in the book, dating back to Roman times, creating enemies you need.
		And it's a 11-page document going through the history of problem, reaction, solution, government terrorism.
		Email it out to everybody.
		And I've got a bunch of emails I meant to get to, but right now, without further ado, we've had too many callers that have been holding too long patiently.
		Daryl, Jay, Dot, Larry, and others.
		Daryl, I've been running over the callers in a big battle with Joe Rogan on the air.
		What's your take on all this, Daryl?
unidentified		Can you hear me?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
unidentified		Well, like I was saying about, you cannot achieve 100%.
		Joe's comment about the fact that if face scanning Well, protect his mother.
		You know, I pose the question to people sometimes, well, in the name of preventing child abuse, you know, we could put a camera in everyone's house.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, those that give up liberty for security will get neither.
		They're using this pretext.
		And Joe just glazes over the actual NSA documents proving the feds are planning to blow up all this stuff.
unidentified		The way I see it is there is a spectrum of Regulation in the name of safety.
		On one end of the spectrum, you have complete anarchy.
		On the other end of the spectrum, everyone is put in a room, locked up, and a camera is on them.
		I think we have moved towards that latter spectrum so far that it is time for me to say enough.
		And let me just say this.
		I was talking to someone one day, and we were talking about the fact that the government now has a digital pre-wire Or a tap on everyone's phone and they don't have to get a court order.
		And he supported this because he said, well, my neighbor may be making a bomb.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When it violates the Fourth Amendment, what does that say about society?
		And then you see all the government terrorism in all these documented cases staring us right there in the face.
		And it violates our Fourth Amendment.
		And those people don't believe in our system of government.
unidentified		Right.
		My comment to this guy who supported it was, look, Um, if my neighbor is building a bomb, it's just, you know, it's my time to go.
		I do not want to, in the name of safety, you know, I will not be convinced by any number of bombings or shootings that my neighbors are so bad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, cars cause 350,000 deaths a year.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Are we saying ban them?
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		I mean, I will not be convinced that my neighbors should all be locked up and fed raw meat under the door.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's basically what the New World Order is pushing for, so they can control us.
		People say, well, why would they want to do that?
		Well, why do they do it all throughout history?
		Because they're control freaks.
unidentified		Exactly.
		And, you know, Joe asked, why would the government want to do anything bad?
		And, you know, a story that my dad had when he was in high school is they found out some of the students were flushing cherry bombs down the toilet and damaging the plumbing.
		come to find out after they caught these individuals that they found out their dads were the plumbers that were
		fixing the pipe.
		And so when you're in the business of controlling people through laws, especially if you have a syndicated crime
		type mentality, which many of our elected officials do.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they caught the biggest windshield company in the area of New York going out at night and breaking windshields.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		You may have to create a market for the type of control.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Create a market for the police state.
		Great points, Daryl, and I wish we'd have had more time for you and everybody tonight.
		Let's talk to Jay in Dallas.
		And tomorrow night it will be wide open phones and no guests.
		I'm making a rule because I want to take your calls.
		Jay in Dallas about the attack on America as the media is calling it.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Yes, I'd just like to say something that I haven't found that the media has said anything about.
		I thought about it today.
		Those planes went through those buildings fairly high up.
		And I thought, I wonder why they, you know, just didn't hit the ground and just blow a bunch of people up that way.
		And then I thought, what if they had some kind of chemical or biological weapon on board?
		A little bottle of this or a little bottle of that.
		We know Saddam Hussein At least our government's told us that Saddam Hussein has been manufacturing chemical weapons.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I put that on my website this morning, that there's a good chance, and again, I said this is speculation, but they keep telling us it's going to happen, and we know they have it.
		That a biological agent could be spread here in a water supply, or Lord knows what these terrorists have done incrementally, and it takes four or five days, at least three days, to find out what smallpox or anthrax that was delivered through a system, and by then it could be spread all over the country.
		And think of how we'll be able to radically reorganize our society, confiscate private property, if this really happens.
		Who stands to gain from it?
		Who has the motive, Jay?
		That's what I ask you.
unidentified		Well, I think a lot of countries have a motive.
		I think, though, that we have not too many countries that actually use suicide bombers.
		You know, most of the Middle East people who want to be martyrs, I mean, that's their religion.
		And they've been brought up that way.
		That's why it kind of points that direction.
		But they hate us more than anybody.
		I mean, Iran, Iraq, Syria.
		A lot of those countries have a lot of terrorists and they really hate us over here and if they could do away with 4 million or 5 million people.
		And what scares me is tomorrow at noon they open the airports, everybody goes out and gets back on an airplane and carries this biological all over the United States.
		Then it's going to give the government a reason to go in and declare martial law?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we're in very, very dangerous waters.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I've been announcing that all day.
unidentified		It would give the government the perfect opportunity to close down the roads, to shut down the city.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They've already got the borders shut down.
		Well, then how do we handle this?
		What do we do, Jay?
unidentified		Well, at this point, I don't know, except to go run to the mountains somewhere.
		I don't know what to tell anybody to do.
		It's going to be, it's almost like it's every man for himself when this point, when this happens.
		It's going to be, can you sneak through and Get someplace that's halfway safe, I guess.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Fox News a few months ago, they're saying one to four million dead, we're going to get
		hit by biologicals, it's not a question of if but when, and martial law, and they say
		a foot and mouth is released here in the United States, they're going to make farmers stay
		on their property and the Army's going to bring them food.
		And then I point out, not a conspiracy, absolute fact.
		The government of England admits it, porting down bioweapons lab.
		The biologicals were released from that laboratory.
		And now the government, after the foot-and-mouth is over, says we may not allow you to restock cows and sheep for the earth.
		Give us your property.
		BBC foot-and-mouth section of InfoWars.com.
		We're not making this stuff up.
unidentified		Well, it's out there, and everybody can see it, and the government, the media, and everybody else has been talking about biological warfare.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's my point.
unidentified		How they were going to use it, and how they had plants manufactured, and we didn't do anything about it then.
unidentified		We could have went over and bombed the plants, got rid of the plants.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We just let them... Did you see last Thursday the AP Reuters giant anthrax plant, living live virus anthrax plant?
unidentified		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		or live bacteria and transplant that they're building here in the united
		states yes i did see that now that's not speculation that's not conspiracy
		and it was like being back in the old days five or six years ago people
		disagree with me talking to joe and joe just can't go all the way he doesn't
		know all the fact is that it's been a time looking at it
		and my point is that i want to be rather less than not make decisions
		while they're making decisions while they have a direction they're going in
		and that's taken our rights away using the pretext of this terrorist bombing
unidentified		regardless of who did it that's exactly why they're doing
		That's exactly what I think happened.
		Whoever did it, they could have stopped this.
		They could have at least... I mean, there's ways to do things, and they're supposed to know what's going on.
		They've got all the technology in the world.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I hear you.
		Listen, call me back tomorrow, Jay, with your take on what's developing.
		Let's talk to Rick in Baltimore, then we'll go to Larry in Dodd.
		Rick in Baltimore, you're on the air worldwide, sir.
unidentified		I just want to ask a couple questions, Alex.
		I just got on video.
		of the destruction of the building up there and it's got a U.N.
		flag on it.
		So my question is, is that American property the World Trade Association?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What has the U.N.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		flag on it?
unidentified		The World Trade... the world... that building that blew up in New York.
		It has a U.N.
		flag on it.
		All the destruction around it and they just showed the building because they're getting... the fire department's getting in there now and it's got the...
		All the destruction right up at the U.N.
		flag is plain as day, right there.
		Got it on video.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Has someone planted a U.N.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		flag, or?
unidentified		We asked, me and Sheldon asked the same question, because it's funny, all the cars and all the steel is burned and everything.
		But they got the U.N.
		flag flying right there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I don't know about that, but I believe you, Rick.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You've called in with good info in the past over the years and sent me video of the Marines doing urban warfare training, admitting for gun confiscation in Hebron, Maryland in Police State 2000.
unidentified		I bet you that building belongs to the UN.
		It's not United States property.
		The World Trade Association.
		I bet you, Alex.
		WTO?
		Somebody needs to ask that question!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, we had Ron Paul on the show.
		We've read the treaty.
		October 18, 2000, a day that will live in infamy.
		Just as big as these bombings are bigger, 70% of our landmass was signed over to the UN.
		We are now in global receivership to the IMF World Bank.
unidentified		Well, I gotta get you this copy of this video to you somehow.
unidentified		It's an amazing picture of the UN flag flying there with all the construction and the fire of people just working around and trying to dig things out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Is it on a pole or is it just sticking out?
unidentified		Yeah, it's on a pole.
		It's on a pole.
		Just flying as bright as anything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, somebody needs to burn that.
		Do me a favor.
		It was nothing worse than seeing our troops come back from Iraq under UN flags and coming back from Bosnia.
		Remember that?
unidentified		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Send me a copy of that video.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I really need it, Rick.
unidentified		I'll get it to you tomorrow.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		God bless, Rick.
		Bye.
		Let's go ahead and talk to Dot in Maine.
		Dot, it's good to talk to you.
		What's going on?
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I just wanted to let you know I'm listening to the show tonight.
		And I'm not sure where Joe is coming from.
		I don't understand his point.
		You said that Joe gets into people's faces, but so do you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Look, all I know is Joe Rogan called Kevin Booth, my buddy, and called me and said, I want to come on.
		And this guy's number one host on television.
		And he tells me he agrees with a lot of the stuff I say.
		We're friends.
		Uh, you know, Joe listens to the show.
		He just can't believe all this stuff.
		He believes a lot of it.
		The Second Amendment's good.
		The Fed's killed, uh, you know, Kennedy.
		Stuff like that.
		He just can't go all the way.
		He doesn't want to admit that his picturesque Hollywood life is in jeopardy.
unidentified		Well, I've been involved in this for ten years, and when he says that you go after it, meaning, I guess, your information is entertainment, it's not entertainment.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's life and death.
unidentified		You have documentation as we here in Maine have documentation and we are in a dangerous situation in this country.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're losing our houses, we're losing our farms, we're losing our ranches under the guise of environmentalism.
		They're telling us give up our guns.
		It's a nightmare!
unidentified		I want to tell you that you sent me your tapes and Public Access here in Maine is showing your tapes and the latest one this week is Police State 2 The Takeover and the agencies that are mentioned in this tape FEMA, Delta, the Delta Force, is what's happening here today.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I hope that people... Yeah, take Seattle, another example of problem, reaction, solution in my film, The Takeover.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They hire 50 thugs to cause a riot, discredit the 50,000 peaceful people, they protect the 50 thugs, they house them in a government building, actual video, newscast, interviews with police, and then they attack the peaceful folks and put them in a FEMA camp at Sand Point.
unidentified		Yes, exactly.
		And you know, the officials at the federal level are not only meeting in secret.
		I mean, this starts at the local level.
		But I have some questions.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Joe Rogan just might be the devil.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The more I listen to the stuff he says, I'm just joking.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Let me ask you this.
		How did these terrorists get through security at Boston Local Airport?
		I mean, this is in my area, not far from here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's high security, I'm told.
unidentified		Yeah, high security.
		How did they get in there?
		That's one of my questions.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		How do they force pilots to fly planes in two buildings at 500 plus miles an hour, top speed, with box cutters?
unidentified		Exactly.
		How do you go from Boston to New York and know where you're exact target?
		You have to be an excellent pilot.
		My next comment.
		I've been watching this all day and I heard one congressman, I can't remember if it was Dodd or Daschle, And the Democrats and the Republicans are coming together for the sake of freedom.
		They're putting their parties, you know, aside.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		There might be a few gun control bills that get passed accidentally.
unidentified		Why don't they put their parties aside when our freedoms are at stake?
		before this attack happened.
		They have to wait for an attack to happen before they come together as one party for our freedom.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		To attack our rights.
		Guaranteed, our freedoms are on the cross here.
		Dot, I know Access TV is under attack in Maine.
unidentified		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I want to get you rescheduled for the show.
		We won't cancel you this time, so I'll have Violet call you tomorrow.
		You call her, okay?
unidentified		I have one more comment.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll let you finish up after the break.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then we'll go to Larry in Louisiana and others.
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alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Alright, I told Dr. Holt I was going to let her finish up, but we hit that break.
		set break.
		Everybody can call back tomorrow from 11 a.m.
		until 2 p.m.
		Central time and back from 9 to midnight.
		I'm going to be focused like a laser beam tomorrow on all this evidence and all the documents.
		I'm going to stay up for about four hours after I get off the air and try to analyze all this.
		My predictions have come true and you've seen it and it's not hard to do.
		I look at the facts.
		Let's go to Larry in Louisiana.
		Larry, Oh, Dot is here, then we'll go to Larry.
		Quickly, Dot, we've got other callers.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		I have a public access TV talk show, and I would like to know if you would do a telephone
		interview on this issue.
		It's specially informed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The problem is I'm on local television at the very time.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don, I'll have to handle that off air with you, but I appreciate the offer and I'll probably do it, okay?
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for the call.
		Larry in Louisiana.
		Larry, you go ahead.
unidentified		Hey, Alex.
		Yeah, it's a big deal over here.
		I got my child out of school when I found out all unnecessary personnel in the hospital in Alexandria, Louisiana were sent home for the day off.
		And I wonder if they're checking all that blood since they've got the warning out of you spent more than six months in Europe just to make sure we don't spread mad cow disease over here.
		You heard that one, right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm looking for them to announce a biological attack.
		I'm not saying it's a fact.
		I'm saying it's a real possibility, and even the mainstream news is saying that.
		And the problem is, we won't know for two or three more days, will we?
unidentified		Well, I don't think they're quite ready for it.
		I'll tell you why I had the information officer off Fort Polk called me at the house here personally two times in five minutes after they decided why I was asking them about their little FEMA signs running into the post.
		But when I run into the Fort Polk Post, it was entering Kosovo.
		It didn't say anything about Fort Polk.
		It looked like it was entering the country of Kosovo.
		And so I asked them if they were FEMA signs, and they said, oh no, they'd already done trained with FEMA doing that.
		So it wasn't an acclamation for the public.
		But anyhow, Alex, over there, they're building a new train station.
		Yes, and it's not a combat railhead train station.
		I've been there before and know what they look like.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's a people train station, so maybe they're going to give the G.I.s a lot of... That's right, and we have it confirmed with the people from the bus company here on this show that the police are trying to drive city buses.
unidentified		Right.
		Or maybe they're planning on having a lot of in-depth ease and starting a draft or something to bring a lot in.
		But they're planning on moving a lot of people there.
joe rogan ▲ ● ▼		It's about halfway up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, we're just being paranoid and we should get behind the government and give up our rights immediately.
		Thanks for the call, Larry.
		Call back tomorrow again from 9 to midnight and 11 a.m.
		until 2 p.m.
		Six hours tomorrow I'll be on the air and a lot of other great shows.
		Real quick, I want to hear from Lewis in California.
unidentified		Lewis?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Last Friday, we were predicting this on the air.
		You said you thought it was Austin.
		I said New York or L.A.
		Did I not say that?
unidentified		Not only were you right on with that, I was listening out here on Pacific Time at 10 minutes to 9, 8.50, when ABC, a voice from somewhere in the background while they had the split screen on the Pentagon and the Twin Towers, and they said, Americans are going to have to give up some of their freedoms and some of their liberties.
unidentified		Exactly as you predicted, you were 100% right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then I have Joe Rogan up as a nice guy who I like and who flatters me, but he's sitting there telling us, oh don't worry about it, give up your rights.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No!
unidentified		I would just make one final comment.
		Every soldier I know that's been hurt, injured, or killed has done it so that we could preserve our liberties and preserve our rights This is totally un-American, backwards thinking.
		Nobody that's been born here in this country and that understands what freedom is about or has fought for it would say that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Lewis, I've been looking for that simple statement all day and all my long sentences, I never came up with it.
		We have fought and died so we have liberty, so we have an open society.
		Now we're not about to give it all up because somebody punched us in the nose.
		We're going to strike back whoever did it.
		And Lewis, I think we know who did it, don't we?
		The New World Order.
		Chris Gerner's up next with more analysis and information.
		You can load his phones up.
		I'll be back tomorrow, 11 a.m.
		until 2 p.m.
		Central, 12 noon to 3 p.m.
		Eastern, and 9 to midnight Central.
		Join me.
		And there's a lot of evidence, a lot of documents you need to see at InfoWars.com.
		No guests tomorrow.
		Nothing but our calls in the news.
		So you join me.
		God bless you all.
		I told you this would happen.
unidentified		Every day the average person breathes over 8,600 litres of air.
unidentified		Most of it in their own homes.

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