Bill Cooper details his book Behold a Pale Horse, predicting a global mafia-driven totalitarian state where the US Constitution is subverted via unmarked police vehicles and Apache surveillance. He alleges President Clinton pushes for biometric national IDs to control citizens within a fraudulent debt-based Ponzi scheme, warning that refusal to accept this enslavement will force Americans into a five-to-fifteen-year civil war using force of arms against federal tax demands and impending chip implants. Ultimately, Cooper urges resistance to prevent total global enslavement under a technocratic socialist utopia. [Automatically generated summary]
Uh, kind of ironic you're talking about black helicopters today.
Uh, me and my son were out and, uh, out and about in town today, and, uh, my wife was here at home with the other... Well, I gotta go, buddy, but call me back later.
Well, either Americans are going to wake up and they're going to stand up in unison and take up arms and challenge the federal government to step back within the boundaries of the Constitution, or there's going to be a civil war in this country.
The only alternative to that is total enslavement of the entire human race on a global scale, because that's where this is going.
This is all about a one-world totalitarian Socialist government.
It's about destroying all existing nation states, destroying all existing religions, save the religion of those who are bringing this about, which is the secular humanist socialist religion.
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That way you can devalue human life and kill people.
And they've already convinced the American people that it's okay.
The people whose ancestors came to the New World to escape religious persecution in the Old World stood and watched the Branch Davidians burn, including all of their children, all of their women, and they cheered and said that it was because they were a bunch of religious fanatics.
I heard Christians say that.
I heard Orthodox Jews say that.
I heard Baptists say it.
I heard Catholics say it.
And to their shame, I have to tell them that they are not religious, moral people.
They are stupid, ignorant people who are on the verge of enslavement, and they're going to deserve exactly what they get.
I have no sympathy for them whatsoever anymore.
I used to.
I used to cry big alligator tears for them in their ignorance, and I used to do everything I could to wake them up.
I've drawn my line in the sand, and I'm going to do what's right by God, and I don't give a damn who cares or who likes it or who doesn't.
Even if it means I have to die on my doorstep.
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Well now we're getting to what's been happening.
The feds are saying that you didn't show up for a court date but they never gave you a subpoena did they?
We have never received any subpoena, no notification, no nothing.
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No nothing, and now the newspapers are reporting that Militiaman, they don't say best selling author, military veteran, no criminal record, William Cooper, they just say Arizona Militiaman tax fraud and bank fraud is refusing to come into the loving arms of Janet Reno.
The only ones that have reached the public eye are the Weaver family and the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas, but it's happened on a large scale all across this country in every state.
It usually is contained at the local level, and one of the indications that you will know that I'm right is that you haven't seen what's happening here on any of the major news networks, and you're not going to.
Because I've taken a stance documented in the law.
I've posted it on my webpage.
I have stated that I am a portion of the unorganized militia of the state of Arizona and the United States of America for many years.
And that my stance is well grounded.
I'm right.
I have a right to do what I'm doing.
And anybody that comes up here and tries to encroach upon my rights or take away the protection of the Constitution from me and my family is going to get a bullet.
And that's just the way it is.
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Just to go back to what you just hinted at is the compartmentalization of news.
We stopped, myself and a few others in this town, stopped the Delta Force from coming and doing secret military training and paying off our police chief.
Now the San Antonio police chief, a man that you ought to be aware of, is Al A. Philippus, and I went down and got an interview face-to-face on videotape And I've actually played the audio here on the show several times, where he said they tried to bribe him.
They were very unprofessional.
They know as never know.
They were out of their jurisdiction.
And they wanted to use live ammunition.
They're practicing taking over police stations.
Shouldn't our police realize that they're going to be some of the first people that will be going?
It's just going to be... I think that... Either the American people are going to become slaves within just a few years, and it's going to be an enslavement like nobody can even dream of, and it's going to extend worldwide, and we're the only people that can stop it, because we're the only people in the world, still, who have the capabilities... Have the arms.
and the arms to be able to stop it.
Or there's going to be a civil war which will last between 5 and 15 years to restore constitutional republican government and freedom and liberty worldwide.
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Well that's the point.
Even though most people are sheep, there is that between 5 and 10 million people that once it starts I think more people will come out.
Ever since I saw the plan back in 1971 and 1972 when I was on the intelligence briefing team for CINCPAC Fleet to bring about one world totalitarian socialist government, and when I saw that the United States was behind the whole thing, this is not coming from without.
The United States created the United Nations.
created the european union that has just been formed. Well you're saying the united states
is acting as the world police force right now. Well you're saying the united states,
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wouldn't you say a foreign aristocracy out of new york and boston that controls our nation?
It's the reason this country was founded, and Americans don't understand that.
The Founding Fathers, many of them were deists.
They were members of the Secret Society.
Some of them were members of the Illuminati.
They created this country and gave the common man freedom for the first time in the history of the world, making him a king in his own right.
They told him what he had to do to keep his freedom and what he would lose if he didn't do it.
And when they did this, giving the common man freedom, it toppled all the kings and queens off their thrones all around the world and that was the major goal of establishing this country.
If the common man could have been vigilant and maintained his freedom and not given in to the I want, and I want, and I deserve, and you've got to feed me, and you've got to do this, and you've got to take care of me, and change my diaper, and wipe my butt, and get me a job, and entertain me, and all that kind of stuff, which always leads back into what they call democracy, which always leads into socialism, which end goal stated by Marx and Lenin is communism.
Well, it shocked the hell out of me, but they thought I was one of them.
It was an accident, but I got in there.
I'd been a member of the Demilay Society when I was 13 years old, only attended three meetings, and then my father was transferred to Japan.
I never saw another lodge and never went to another meeting.
That was the end of that.
When I filled out all my documentation for my top secret QSI security clearance, which was required to be able to work in the command center and on the briefing team at CPAC Fleet, I didn't see DMLA on there.
So I checked Freemason.
And when I checked Freemason, that's what opened all the doors and got me the security clearance and put me in those positions to be able to see what I saw.
And I think the hand of God was working when that happened.
so that I would be able to warn his people of what was coming.
I've been doing that ever since.
I didn't see absolutely everything, but I saw enough to give me an edge and a vast head
start on anybody that's ever lived before in the public sector that's not normally privy
to this information.
I spent the last, well, ever since researching to find out what it all meant and where we're
going.
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Just to go back to what's happening here locally in Central Texas.
We know that there are dozens of different alphabet soup agencies that have the helicopters with the forward infrared looking radar and all the rest of this.
Why are they gearing up like this?
Why is our county building a three acre under the roof helicopter base?
Just the warehouse is three acres under the roof.
Why are our police going and training at Fort Hood with the military?
They know that there's a hard core group of American men and women who are devout, religious, moral people, love freedom.
and are dedicated to the concept of liberty and freedom and will fight to protect and defend constitutional republican government against anything that comes along.
And when that begins, it's going to be a terrible, terrible thing.
I've spent most of my adult life trying to warn people and wake up enough people so that this did not have to happen because I know it's going to be terrible.
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Now, President Clinton has now openly come out, and I'd actually read that they were pushing three years ago and I was talking about it.
about the national ID card and biometrics, thumb scanning, retina scanning.
And since 94 in Texas, they've been thumb scanning us to get driver's license and people just stampede in there like, shoot, we had a big protest down there where I was arrested.
I guess it's six or eight months ago now.
What does it mean to the public when we have one card that our insurance and our credit cards and our bank accounts and our receipts and everything is on that one card?
Means the public is stupid and they're already a hair's breadth away from total enslavement.
If they had any brains at all, they would have said, no, I'm not taking that.
And if you don't like it, that's tough.
And all those businesses and all those driver's license bureaus and all those, the revenue that it brings in for all those cities and counties would have just evaporated in smoke and they would have backed down and said, okay, okay, you don't have to do it, we'll do it another way.
But there's too stupid to do that.
They don't understand that the power in this country is the power of the people, and that they don't have to do anything that's outside the bounds of the Constitution.
And the government can be held within the bounds, the restraints that the Constitution put upon it, that our Founding Fathers created so that the American people could never be enslaved.
What is the main goal of biometrics, retina scanning, thumb scanning?
In my opinion, it is total loss of control of your destiny.
the American people. The only way it could be done is from within if the American people
allowed it to be done.
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What is the main goal of biometrics, retina scanning, thumb scanning? In my opinion it
is total loss of control of your destiny. If the IRS doesn't like you now, they'll just
come take your house. If the IRS doesn't like you now, they'll just come and garnish your
But in the future, if they don't like you, they'll shut your card off.
There won't be any insurance cards or anything like that.
Everybody will have an account on a computer.
Everybody will have a computer chip implant somewhere on their body that will access the computer.
Everybody, when they go to work, will get so many credits for that work, and they can go out and wave their little computer chip in their hand, or whatever it is, under a scanner at the supermarket, and buy whatever they've got credits to buy.
And if they don't have credits, they've got to stay home until they get some credits.
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Let me stop you for a second.
I read this almost every week, at least once, and it's from the April 27, 1997, Time Magazine, The Future of Money.
the April 27, 1997 Time Magazine, The Future of Money.
I'm sure you've read it.
And it openly on page 51, and anybody out there that thinks Mr. Cooper or I are BSing
you, go read it.
And it says the best part, now this is their words, the best part about it is your daughter in the near future can have a chip under her skin and you won't have to buy the drinks for at the bar.
I mean, everything's insane about that paragraph.
And the whole 10 page article is about how great the smart card is and then the chip.
And as we know, Time Magazine is a filthy, elitist propaganda rag.
So I can't see how anybody would deny this.
But I guess most people only see it as a convenience.
That's why they want to go to a cashless system and that's why they ultimately have to.
Anybody understands how this economy works and what the end result of a debt-based economy, where the interest is never created or printed, It's a fiat Ponzi scheme.
It's got to collapse or they have to go to a totally cashless system in order that they don't get caught and are able to
perpetuate the theft.
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So what you're saying is that we have a fiat ponzi scheme, con game government monetary system based on fractional
reserve banking and that the money machines are printing out of control.
I talked to Congressman Ron Paul just a few weeks ago, and he said, yes, the Federal Reserve is printing 10% more money into the supply every six to eight months.
So this is creating this false prosperity, and the public just loves it.
But meanwhile, they're just coaxing us in to this cashless society so the fairy tale can continue.
The average American has never had an original thought in his entire life, or her entire life.
And if they're not told what to think, they cannot think.
And that's the truth.
Clinton didn't do anything except eliminate the deficit.
You know how you eliminate the deficit?
You either don't spend as much so that you stay within the bounds allotted by Congress, or you have Congress pass more allotments So that you can spend more than what you need to spend.
Yeah, I mean, I make... It did not pay off the national debt.
Did not balance the budget.
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Well, yes.
If I could give myself endless pay raises, I could go out and buy skyscrapers and a thousand Cadillacs and a hundred Mercedes.
So when he says we got a zero deficit, that means absolutely nothing except Congress is allotting more money for the government to spend, because the government is not spending less, they're spending more than they ever have had.
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They are spending more, and they're using this to beef up the police state.
It's obvious to anybody that honestly looks at it.
Back to what's happening with you.
Now, I have run documentaries that you've been involved with many times here on television in Austin.
and like rye stock ninety five and others and those are uh...
people who've been that those the most educational meant and they do enjoy
them talk a little bit about how you were at the top of bill clinton's
No, I don't have a 1-800 number, and even if I did, they couldn't order because I will not contribute to the To the debt-based destruction of our economy and property of the American people.
So they can't order anything from us by phone.
If they want to order something from us, they have to send blank postal money orders or cash.
If you hold a pale horse, it's $30 delivered to your door, and you can order by sending blank money orders or cash to Harvest Trust, in care of, and make sure you put in care of on the address.
legal taxes. I have not filed or paid the so-called income tax to private banks.
an excise tax to private banks for almost it's either 11 or 12 years I
forget which I've never made a secret of that I am not liable for the so-called
income tax administered by the so-called Internal Revenue Service and I am not
but I do pay all lawful and constitutional taxes which I am required to pay and always will. Give us an example of a
lawful tax.
Well, a lawful tax would be a state sales tax down at your local grocery store.
A lawful tax would be a property tax for which you paid for it with the Fiat Federal Reserve notes instead of gold or silver coin.
You can't pay off a debt with a debt, so you never really purchase anything in this country in this debt-based economy with the Fiat Federal Reserve notes.
That's why you get a warrant deed when you pay off your house instead of the patent title to the property.
And that's why you get a certificate of title when you think you paid for your automobile instead of the actual patent title to that property.
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This is all being done with contract fraud and people can't even... Yes, it is fraud.
It's all fraud.
That's why I catch myself, as I get deeper and deeper into this, becoming more angry, Flat out, I guess I'm at the point where you said that you were several years ago, where you're just sad about it, because you see the people thinking they have a grasp of what's happening in the civilization.
But I've read enough history, I know enough about the country and what's been happening, to realize that pretty much everything that you're told in the media has lies weaved right into it.
The American people are standing inside the gates of Disneyland, holding their e-ticket, which is expired, None of the rides are working and they're just having a great time.
But I can tell you from what I saw in that plan when I was with ONI.
And what I have researched since then tells me that within a very few years the American people are either going to be totally enslaved in the worst enslavement that you can even dream of or there's going to be a civil war actively being fought under the most terrible conditions in this country.
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Well I don't have a crystal ball but it's pretty simple to predict what these guys are going to do now that they're out in the open.
I mean ten years ago it wasn't so out in the open.
Now you Turn on the TV.
You in world court.
Clinton pushes national ID card.
You turn on rare news hour.
Secret military teams are trading with your local police.
It's pretty much in your face now and I don't know if Clinton wants to leave office or maybe he wants to go be Head of the UN or something.
Who do you think as leaders from your intelligence networks, do you think are on the horizon?
They're not my leaders, and it's not my government anymore.
They have subverted my government, destroyed it from within, and my only hope is that I can find enough good American patriots who are moral, who are good men, who understand what liberty and freedom is all about.
To go in there and restore constitutional Republican government by any method that it requires, including the force of arms.
Otherwise, my children and my grandchildren and my great-grandchildren are going to be slaves.
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So you've totally turned your back completely on the festering system.
It is not operating within the boundaries of the Constitution.
They have thrown the Constitution out.
It is treason in operation.
There is a subversion of government going on as we speak in the halls of government throughout this country, not just in Washington, D.C.
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So you're saying it is criminal enterprise, incredibly sophisticated, controlling Hollywood, the universities, and the major mass media through foundation money and through control of finance, and all their whores and all their pumps and all their little agents don't mean a damn to you.
You're going to take care of your family, try to educate the public, and just continue to prepare.
And you're saying that you have not committed any crimes, You're not bothering anybody, and if the feds try to come and take your home and take your family, that you're going to oppose them with force of arms?
They have declared war upon me and all patriots and everybody in this country who is a loyal constitutionalist, who has taken an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic, and if the Civil War has to start on my doorstep, that's as good a place as any.
I can guarantee you that what he quotes that Sheriff Arthur Lee said is not the truth.
We spoke to Sheriff Arthur Lee last night.
Arthur Lee says that I'm right, that he has jurisdiction over the feds in this county, and he has told them not to come in this county and harass this family.
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Absolutely.
Well, we've learned that with the press, that they will flat out not twist the truth, but when they need to, they will flat out lie.
I just hope they cling to their technology with all they've got.
I hope they train every soldier to use computers and not be able to function without a satellite uplink and all of that stuff so we can just kick their butts all the way back to Washington D.C.
and try them for the crimes that they're guilty of.
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Sir, I don't want to get into the things that you've already sacrificed and done for your country, but you've actually You've been threatened quite a bit and people have actually attempted to try to kill you, haven't they?
Well, I believe it was about 3.8% of all the people in the colonies helped found this nation and fought the Revolutionary War to create it and give what they called their posterity liberty and freedom.
And the United States government was created to protect the rights of individuals, whether or not they voted.
No matter what happened, they were supposed to stay within the bounds of the Constitution and protect the rights of individuals and guaranteed us in that document constitutional Republican government.
Not just in Washington, D.C., but in every state, every county, every city of this country.
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So Mr. Cooper, you think that It doesn't matter what they do, they lose and they know it.
They've stepped on their dicks this time.
No matter what they do, they lose and they know it.
and uh... launching a hellfire attack with a doesn't matter what they do they
I'd like to give out the website because that's where people can get the documentation and the law and see what's really happening and understand why we're right and not just blowing smoke and understand that this is the stance that they're also going to have to take if they want to be free.
People who are not willing to die for freedom can never have it.
That's the law of the universe.
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Will you stay with us for a break, because I'm actually behind two breaks, and if you'd stay with us... I just wanted to give out the website, though, because I've got to get going, too.
If you're not one of them, there's only one list and you're already on it, so stop worrying about it.
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Do what you're supposed to do.
Absolutely.
Well, Mr. Cooper, thanks a lot for being with us this evening, and I'll be following what's going on from here in Austin with the controlled media, and try to keep in touch with you and find out what's happening.
And I've been very attentive to try to Come out to Arizona, but I figured that you had everything under control.
I was just going to come out and probably do a news story, but I don't have the time either.
And if they kill you, well, who knows?
It may explode here, too.
And they've got their little unmarked driving around and all the rest of the behavior going on.
And I'm sure sad that there's elements of our federal government and a lot of dupes that work for them that really don't know who they're really working for.
What would you say to the law enforcement officers out driving around in their cars?
Because I get a lot of calls from them on this program.
Well, the only thing I can say to them is they're not going to like being slaves either.
That badge and that gun isn't going to give them any special privileges in the New World Order.
In fact, if they'll read State Department Publication 7277, they'll find out that most of their law enforcement agencies are going to disappear except for a small group that will be just used to maintain internal order once they have everybody in the bonds of enslavement.
And also, if they study the history of Socialism and Communism, everybody who helped Socialism and Communism come to power are the first people that they eliminate once they have welded the last chains in place.
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Yes, I say this all the time, because they were the people that helped get the establishment into full command.
They know how the system works at certain levels.
They're the biggest threat.
It's just like this, whenever some little slime ball comes up to the gate and opens up the castle gate and lowers the drawbridge for the enemy to come in, the first person the enemy kills is that traitor because the enemy knows that next week that little rat traitor is going to open the gate for somebody else.