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alex jones
My name is Alex Jones, host of Exposing Mass Media.
Me and Jeff Davis have teamed up to start a group of exposés where we're going to go out and show you just how dumbed down the public are.
Also, Jeff Davis' producer has gotten footage off C-SPAN, has taped it with the CFR openly meeting, talking about their global regime of power, openly talking about the future of our Central Intelligence Agency.
Because there is no lies left for them to tell.
They're now out in the open, openly admitting that they wish to seek and control every facet of our lives.
And they are doing that, make no mistake.
So today, we're going to go out and we're going to talk to a lot of different people.
I'm going to go up face to face and ask them simple questions like, do you believe the government was involved in Oklahoma City bombing?
And other questions.
And you're going to find that people are shocked, amazed, or will simply probably just run away.
But we might find a few souls that actually know something wrong was going on.
We're also going to ask police officers out on the street what they think.
We're going to see what their reaction is when we politely talk to them.
And also, we're going to ask them what they think of the CFR. And I think it's going to be shocking to you to see that they know nothing about it.
And then, at the end of this segment, we're going to roll some tape that shows you The CFR, the Council on Foreign Relations, openly meeting in Washington, deciding how you're going to live.
And guess what they want?
They want your private property, they want to control your children, they want to disarm you, and they want to tax the living hell out of you.
So, my thanks to The Jeff Davis Show for helping me out on this project.
This will be very informative, and you need to seriously think about this.
You might want to call some friends.
Right now and tell them to tune in to the Jeff Davis Show so they see this information.
Because America is really dumbed down.
I'm Alex Jones.
Hope you enjoy this.
We're down here on the UT drag at UT to ask people what they think about the Council on Foreign Relations.
And as I think you'll see, most people will roll their eyes about the organized criminal ring that is called the CFR that meets and decides.
On our daily lives.
We'll also ask them other questions about what they think about the right to keep and bear arms, and I'm sure they'll convulse with fear at the very prospect of them being able to repel an oppressive government.
But without further ado, let's go ahead and go and talk to the public.
Perhaps they'll enjoy hearing what we have to say.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
I'm going out and asking people, because have you ever seen C-SPAN? I have on occasion.
Yes, it's governmental channels.
The Council on Foreign Relations is now coming out in the open and talking about their global regime of power, openly talking about their system for world government, which will dissolve world boundaries and where international money interest will control things.
Are you aware of this, or would you think this is just an outlandish philosophy of thought to even try to even think about this?
unidentified
I'm not very aware of what you're discussing now.
alex jones
You're not very aware of it?
unidentified
What the only comment I would have is that there are issues that affect all of us, like for example, world pollution.
Yes.
And how we address that is done through each of our individual countries, but it doesn't seem like we're making a lot of headway.
alex jones
So you're saying we might need to have some kind of...
unidentified
I don't know.
I'm just saying that each of our countries is trying to address it, but it doesn't seem to me that, you know, the ozone, for example, we're standing out here in the sun right now.
alex jones
Getting skin cancelled.
unidentified
Yeah.
And there is a problem there, and whether it's being addressed adequately or not, I have an eight-year-old son.
I'm concerned for what happens to him in the future, and we just need to find a better way of addressing it.
What that way is, I'm not sure about that.
alex jones
Well, that's great.
Are you aware that CFCs have been replaced with HCFCs, which are also bad for the environment?
And the only reason that that's been done, they could replace them with HCs, but they haven't for the simple reason of that the chemical companies hold patents on the HCFCs and that HCs are non-patentable.
So really, they're making us all convert to a new system, which is just as bad for the environment.
unidentified
I wasn't aware of that.
alex jones
Yes, see, but I mean, some of the alternative press, some chemists will come out and speak about this.
But it's a $100 billion a year industry just in this country, and so that's why you really won't hear about it.
That's something you might want to check into.
unidentified
I will.
alex jones
Thanks a lot for...
I'm not trying to sell you something.
No, I understand.
I'm not trying to sell you something.
Do you think the Second Amendment should be done away with?
unidentified
What's the Second Amendment?
alex jones
The right to keep and bear arms.
Do you think we'll be safer as a disarmed population?
unidentified
No, actually not, because we'll obviously be the black market.
And if we can't have it, then...
alex jones
Excellent point.
There will always be a black market.
Good point.
I have one quick political question for y'all.
This will air on television.
Let me ask y'all something.
Are y'all familiar with what the Council on Foreign Relations is?
unidentified
Are y'all?
alex jones
Y'all don't know?
Well, they're on C-SPAN, and they're deciding how our company's going to be run.
unidentified
So you might want to check it out sometime.
alex jones
Oh, y'all have seen me?
Well, listen, the Council on Foreign Relations is real, and universities have laughed at it for a long time, but now they're openly on C-SPAN talking about their global regime of power.
And on the television show that will be airing tomorrow night, on the Jeff Davis Show, we are going to show, after this interview, what people say about it.
We're going to show the CFR. You saw those people just laugh and giggle?
They've been taught at UT never to ask questions.
Y'all might want to tune in tomorrow night from 7.30 to 10.30 p.m.
on cable channel 10 on Time Warner and check this out.
Because this is very, very interesting and also very informative.
So y'all never heard of the CFR? Never heard of it.
Never heard of it?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Well, what are y'all's names?
Am I speaking to the mic?
Well, here comes asking people just simple questions, like what they think about the Second Amendment.
unidentified
Y'all are from Brazil.
alex jones
Y'all are from Brazil?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Y'all have the right to keep and bear arms down there?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
That's good.
unidentified
That's good.
alex jones
Need that down there.
What do y'all think about America?
Do you think America is a free country?
You do think it's free?
I guess we're free to pay outrageous levels of taxes.
I'd agree to that.
Well, listen, I appreciate y'all commenting on that.
Have a good one.
How are y'all doing?
Questions are, are y'all familiar with the Council on Foreign Relations?
CFR? People usually laugh.
Like at UT, a professor will in government, if you tell them about the CFR, but C-SPAN. Are you familiar with C-SPAN? It's governmental channels on cable.
And on C-SPAN, the Council on Foreign Relations is openly talking about how they pretty much control our government and all the major heads of industry and government worldwide are members of it 99% of the time.
And y'all aren't familiar with that?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
Well, see, that's the problem.
We might want to think about that.
Tomorrow night on a television program on Austin Access Television.
We are going to be talking about this, and we're going to show how we've talked to 20 people, and nobody has known what it is, but when asked about politics, the people that do want to say something say, well, we should just give up our rights for the environment.
One man didn't quite say that, but he kind of implied that, and that's kind of what their whole selling point is, is take away private property.
Y'all might want to check into the CFR. Did y'all just see that?
I asked that family there, and they had no idea what the CFR was, and then when they felt stupid because they didn't know, They go, well, I'll listen to both sides of the issue.
What that meant is, is I won't know anything, I'll be lazy, but I'll neutralize myself and be a slave.
That's what it's all about.
Radio and talk show host, and I'm out just asking people real simple political questions.
Do y'all feel that our government is actively involved in bringing in drugs to this country?
unidentified
I don't know.
alex jones
You don't know?
unidentified
I hope not.
alex jones
You hope not?
Well, it's a $220 billion a year industry.
unidentified
Is that taxpayers' money?
alex jones
Well, they sure use a lot of taxpayers' money to so-called fight the drug war, but it seems like all they're doing with the drug war is watering down the Constitution and taking away our human rights.
Pretty scary, huh?
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
Have y'all heard of the Council on Foreign Relations?
The CFR? Yeah.
You have heard of that?
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
And what do you think of the Council on Foreign Relations?
unidentified
Well, I don't like the idea.
alex jones
Oh, so you don't like the idea.
First person to say that.
So when Sandy Berger, member of the Council on Foreign Relations, said in New York City about a month ago on C-SPAN, when he said their global regime of power was moving along ahead of schedule on national television, on national cable television, you don't agree with that?
unidentified
Yeah, well, I guess I'm not really in politics, so good luck on your next visit.
alex jones
Fantastic.
Hey, you've got to fight back not to be a slave.
Remember that.
How you doing, sir?
unidentified
I'm ready.
alex jones
I want to ask you just a question or two, sir.
I want to ask you a quick question.
Have you heard of the Council on Foreign Relations?
unidentified
Wait a minute.
alex jones
Have you heard of the CFR? Wait a minute.
unidentified
Which foreign relations?
alex jones
The Council on Foreign Relations.
unidentified
Do you have any particular foreign relations in mind about the Federal Reserve?
The Federal Reserve?
Yes, the Federal Reserve.
I don't know.
I don't really have an opinion about it.
alex jones
So you really don't have an opinion about the Federal Reserve, but you know they set your interest rates?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
They set the fractional reserve banking limits of all the other banks have to pay homage to them.
And did you know that they're private?
unidentified
I know.
I didn't know that.
alex jones
Yes, they're in the phone book under private businesses, but you'll never hear about that.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
alex jones
Isn't that interesting?
unidentified
Yes.
I didn't know that.
alex jones
Do you know what the CFR is?
unidentified
No, I'm not really.
alex jones
Well, the Council of Foreign Relations, they are now on C-SPAN, on television, openly talking about how they're moving forward and deciding how we're going to run our government because all the most powerful people in our government and in the industry get together and are members of it.
So, you know, and guess what they're after, in my opinion?
unidentified
Money?
alex jones
That's it.
More of your tax dollars, and it isn't going for the environment, it isn't going for the children, it's going for the big bankers.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Well, hey, thanks a lot.
unidentified
You're welcome.
alex jones
You'll be on this hot July day asking people, and it's pretty scary.
The people that knew the most about this was a bum.
Now, the bum didn't really know what he was talking about, but he did have some things to say that were true.
He didn't really know how to articulate it, but that's the scary point.
And if you want to say, oh, no, that just means you're a bum because the only person that agrees with you is a bum, no.
The average people are too busy out shopping and doing things to simply turn on C-SPAN and see the Council on Foreign Relations openly talking about running our country.
So, let's go ask some more people.
Maybe after a hundred people somebody would have watched C-SPAN and know that our government is being eroded and destroyed while a new centralized government, world government, is being set up.
Now let's go to talk to the people.
unidentified
So you do watch C-SPAN? I have watched C-SPAN and other news channels and other forms of media such as NPR. Oh, National Public Radio?
Yes, which I support.
alex jones
Now wait, I have one question for you.
I don't mean to attack you on this, but I've heard NPR. They were the only people that agreed when in some major cities they had house-to-house searches mocked military drills a few years ago.
unidentified
Well, I haven't heard that particular story, but I do think that they are more willing than the major media to report anything controversial.
They report a lot of...
There are a lot of bad governments around the world, and they are willing to report on that corruption.
alex jones
But don't you think America is the central power in the world with the most tentacles?
unidentified
It depends on what you mean by tentacles.
alex jones
Okay, do you think our security agencies and our intelligence agencies are actively involved in the $220 billion narcotics industry just in this country alone?
unidentified
I think during the Iran-Contra scandal.
alex jones
Oh, only Ronald Reagan, I see.
Not Clinton, and that's all stopped now, even though triple the heroin's flowing in, double the cocaine's flowing in.
unidentified
Actually, there was some involvement of Clinton in the Iran-Contra scandal, if you recall.
alex jones
Through MENA Airport?
unidentified
Yes, through MENA. Now, I, as an average citizen, have heard the stories about that, but I don't think any of us have been allowed evidence to judge that.
alex jones
Well, then how do you have it with Iran-Contra?
I mean, I do believe, too, that drugs were flowing in then and that certain groups of our intelligence agencies were involved.
But hold on, hold on.
Now triple the drugs are flowing in.
Now that more supply, that means that they're doing it more.
unidentified
Well, yeah, but you also have to understand that since the Reagan administration, the poverty level and the pace of devaluation, the economic pressures on those countries have also gotten greater, as well as the environmental causes to preserve the rainforest, leading to different ways of trying to make money.
alex jones
So anything bad that ever happens in human history after this is going to be Ronald Reagan's fault?
unidentified
I never said that.
alex jones
Well, but you're kind of...
Every person I talk to who does have something to say, then they start saying something about the rainforest.
These same companies, and this is an opinion, these same companies that are out here telling us all day long that they love the environment, they're the ones cutting down the rainforest.
unidentified
What I think is that the problem in South America and Africa and a lot of the places that are impoverished is that it seems like no matter what you do, no matter what you try to protect...
The people who get the money are the top few percent.
alex jones
That's because they don't have a base rule law of human rights.
They have so-called community rights.
That's why we need individual rights.
unidentified
I agree that they need human rights and they need individual rights just like we have the rights in the Constitution.
alex jones
But you get individual rights, wouldn't you agree, through individual rights, not through community rights?
Isn't that kind of an oxymoron?
I'm not sure what you mean by community rights.
Well, we're always hearing, well, they say that in China, they say that here now.
In our country, they say, forget the individual, everything is community.
Well, if the person is the smallest unit of the community, then wouldn't that stand that we should focus on individual rights?
unidentified
I disagree.
I think the framers of the Constitution meant that there were certain rights that were inalienable, even if the rest of the community disagreed with that.
alex jones
That's what I said, individual.
unidentified
That's what I just said.
alex jones
Do you believe that the Constitution was suspended in 1933, the War and Emergency Powers Act?
unidentified
I think McCarthyism was probably the greatest example of that.
alex jones
But McCarthyism wasn't in full force.
It was a Democrat, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, that suspended the Constitution in 1933 with the War and Emergency Powers Act.
unidentified
Well, I'm not very familiar with that.
I do know, however...
alex jones
You just know McCarthy's bad and Ronald Reagan's bad.
unidentified
You're putting words in my mouth.
alex jones
Well, I'm not sitting here defending the Republicans.
I'm just saying it's funny how...
That's how they've got it working on us.
People are obsessed with only one group and then never really see the true viper that's in our midst.
unidentified
Would you like me to answer the question?
alex jones
Sure, go ahead.
unidentified
On NPR recently...
alex jones
Oh, NPR told you?
I'm sorry.
unidentified
On NPR, yes, I'm quoting NPR recently, they stated that there were a number of constitutional challenges that were made before the New Deal could go into effect.
And I think that's where you see a lot of the collectivism over individual rights come in.
alex jones
Yes.
unidentified
So I agree with you on that point.
Fantastic.
As far as the War and Powers Act, I have no understanding.
alex jones
Better check into it.
That is the law by which they've set up a parallel government that's not even secret anymore.
One more quick question.
Are you for the right to keep and bear arms, the Second Amendment, or do you believe that we should disarm the general populace?
unidentified
I believe that the populace should have a right to keep their arms, although I feel that the framers, while they tried to look forward as far as they could, did not look forward to today.
I think you have to ask yourself two questions.
There are two forms of arms that you need to wonder if people need to have.
One's a handgun, which has been attacked.
The other is a nuclear weapon.
Would you be for your neighbor having a nuclear weapon?
alex jones
No, I don't think anybody was talking about a neighbor having a nuclear weapon.
I would like to have weapons that the average criminal has so that I can oppose them.
unidentified
Well, I'm just saying, either you are for the right to keep and bear arms or you're not.
If you're going to say that we need to keep...
alex jones
Yes, I think we should all be able to have death stars, too.
Have you ever heard of the CFR, Council on Foreign Relations?
unidentified
No, I haven't.
alex jones
You've never heard of the CFR? No.
No, you haven't?
What do you think about the Second Amendment, right to keep and bear arms?
Think we should get rid of that?
unidentified
I think people have the right to have a gun.
alex jones
You do?
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow, that's good.
I think they know how to use it.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
Well, why do you think the government wants to disarm the people?
unidentified
Probably because there's too many dangerous people out there.
alex jones
Well, but why isn't the government controlling the criminals?
unidentified
I don't know, because it's too wild.
It's hard to control them.
There's no real way to control them.
alex jones
Yeah.
Well, fantastic.
What do you think of the CFR, man?
unidentified
Never heard of it?
alex jones
I hear you.
Take care.
How y'all doing?
Can I ask y'all a quick political question to be on a documentary?
How y'all doing?
unidentified
Okay, guys.
alex jones
Just a couple quick questions.
Do y'all think that the U.S. government is shipping in drugs or is at least allowing certain drug corridors to stay open?
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Of course they are.
It's a $220 billion industry.
Good answer.
unidentified
You mean the illicit industry?
alex jones
Is there illicitly shipping in drugs?
Well, I mean, even ex-CIA directors have admitted that the CIA needs to be abolished.
There's too much power.
It's too consolidated.
But I'm asking y'all, do you believe that the government is actively involved with shipping in drugs?
unidentified
You do?
alex jones
Well, fantastic.
I'm glad some people are actually answering the questions the way I would see it.
Do you think that we're living in a free country today here in this nation?
Oh, you do think we're living in a free country?
unidentified
Free country, hmm.
alex jones
You just think there's why?
How can the government be shipping in drugs, but at the same time, we'd be living in a free country when they're rapidly taking away the Second Amendment, devaluing the First Amendment, and the Tenth Amendment's being ignored, state rights.
The Supreme Court rules that the Brady Law is unconstitutional, but the states just ignore it because they know who has the power, the federal thugs.
Here we are at the headquarters of the Austin Police Department.
And I'm going to try to talk to some police officers and ask them what they think about the federal government more and more controlling how they serve the public and if they think that that is an infringement like the Supreme Court does.
And I might also ask them why the states and locales are choosing to ignore the Supreme Court rulings on the Brady Bill and other things being unconstitutional according to the Tenth Amendment.
Now, let's go ask.
unidentified
You ready?
Where we going?
alex jones
I'm trying to find police in air conditioning.
I got an access television show and I got a radio show.
unidentified
My name is Alex Jones.
alex jones
And all I'm doing, I just want to ask police what they think about the Supreme Court trying to strike down the Brady Law.
And I wanted to ask anybody, I don't even care if it's a spokesman, just any person.
If I have to, I'll go to a 7-Eleven and ask the cops just what average cops think.
Like, what do you think of the...
Let's say, did you hear about how last Friday, or two Fridays ago, the Supreme Court struck down the Brady Law saying that it was unconstitutional as a 10th Amendment states' rights violation?
And that I personally was shocked by how the local police forces all over the country and...
You want to turn off the camera?
unidentified
Cameras aren't allowed in here?
I want to be photographed.
Oh, you don't want to be photographed.
alex jones
Okay, is it alright if he aims the camera at the ground and then I just get your voice?
unidentified
I don't like the way you want to bust the whole thing.
Well, I mean, I'm in the media.
It's not?
alex jones
They didn't really tell me.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
Well, I mean, 7-Eleven, they probably won't want to talk to me either.
I don't know.
alex jones
I didn't think y'all was the Gestapo or anything.
I just was trying to...
Talk to whoever.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Well, I just walked in and said, my name is Alex Jones, and just asked you what you thought of the Supreme Court ruling it was unconstitutional, and then the states, no one who really runs things, the federal government, and saying, okay, Supreme Court, and just kind of laughing at them.
That's all.
Boy, isn't that interesting.
We're waiting on the watch commander.
He might come down and talk to us.
Hope he does.
Nice and cool in here.
We'll have to do our interviews and the air conditioning from now on.
unidentified
Yeah.
He may be coming somebody, I don't know.
No, he looks like he's off duty.
How you doing, sir?
alex jones
Hey, sir, officer.
How come you don't want to talk to us?
Just don't want to?
See, I don't want to just go talk to, you know, some head bureaucrat that's trying to be a good little boy and girl so they can go up and work for Janet Reno like, you know, the last person.
And I know that average cops are on the beat.
I mean, I've had family that was in intelligence agencies and things like that.
And my name's Alex Jones, by the way.
I'm actually on FM Talk Radio.
I mean, I'm just trying to find out why the Supreme Court is totally being ignored and state and local governments all over the country are saying, well, forget the Supreme Court.
We're just going to do what big government says.
And, I mean, you can't even tell me as a citizen what your own views are on those things.
unidentified
You're talking to me as a police officer and you're asking my opinion as a citizen.
alex jones
You're trying to get two different things here.
But don't you swear an oath to protect the citizenry?
Okay, are you asking me as a police officer or are you asking me as a citizen?
I'm asking you as a citizen.
Okay, because a minute ago you're asking me as a citizen.
unidentified
And I know you're taping all this, and I don't appreciate you coming up.
I already told you I didn't want to give you a comment a minute ago, and now you're re-approaching me trying to get another comment.
alex jones
Oh, I won't harass you.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Well, I already told you this once, didn't I? I didn't want to talk to you about it.
alex jones
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I called the police officers earlier and asked them.
I'm being paid by the city of Austin to work right now.
unidentified
They don't want me out here giving political statements about my opinion as a citizen.
alex jones
They want me upstairs doing my job.
Oh, okay, great.
So that's why I told you no comment.
That's why I didn't want to talk to you.
It's just when I called the police earlier this week, they said they called me back, and they never did.
Well, I don't know who you talk to, sir.
You need to call the administration back.
Yeah, I've got this.
I've been given this.
Thanks a lot.
Well, as you can see, the police state's gearing up well.
No one wants to speak out.
No one wants to be counted.
Everyone wants to just scurry along in the pack mentality.
Alex Jones isn't about to do that.
unidentified
Well...
alex jones
Me and Jeff Davis' cameraman, we've been having some trouble finding police that want to talk to us.
But what we have been able to do is find plenty of cameras that are sprouting up on lots of your major intersections and highways here in Austin, Texas.
Why?
Here's two telephoto cameras now.
Right here for us to enjoy peeking in, making sure we behave ourselves like good little children should.
Ah yes, smart highways are on the way too, and the thumb scanning systems have been put in in 36 of the 50 states now and are integrated into the National Security Agency under the control of NSA and CIA under that branch, hooked into the National Surveillance Center and the National Identification Center.
Big Brother's growing stronger day by day, and no one wants to talk about it.
And when the Supreme Court says something's wrong...
Like the 10th Amendment violation on the Brady Bill?
Everyone just ignores them.
unidentified
Well, go back to your football games and your cheeseburgers.
alex jones
This is the world of love.
Now back to more corruption.
Ah, look at them.
unidentified
Beautiful little cameras.
alex jones
And you know they're putting...
Oh, and also, here we are.
Just about 150 yards away from the nice cameras, there's a Texas Department of Transportation.
And no wonder they have one of their nice little camera pods watching over us as we speak.
There's cameras over there on the highway and there's camera right there in that camera pod looking at us on the corner of that building.
Yes, Big Brother always likes to have lots of cameras around their happy little places so they can watch us and make sure we're being good.
But don't worry, they're not going to round up those violent criminals.
Oh no, those are at a premium because we have to have...
Criminals that are terrorizing us, or we won't beg to have our rights taken away.
That's what it's all about, my friends.
Now, let's go to a shopping mall here in town, and let's see what people have to say about CFR out of control, about the Gulf War Syndrome, and about many other interesting facts that have been proven now, but that people refuse to admit exist.
Let's go check it out.
Number one, do y'all think that our federal government and its security agencies are Are allowing massive amounts of drugs to at least flow into this country?
unidentified
I've heard many, many theories on that, you know, things like that.
I don't know if I believe it or not, but I've heard a lot about that.
alex jones
Well, yes.
I wouldn't put it past them, I guess.
Well, it's a $220 billion industry just in narcotics alone.
What do you all think about the Second Amendment, the right to keep and bear arms?
I think it's a good right.
You think it's great?
unidentified
Of course, man.
alex jones
That's why they don't like Generation X, because they know we're really not slaves like they want.
Fantastic, because y'all aren't afraid of law-biting systems with firearms, are you?
It's the criminals we should be afraid of, and the federal government.
unidentified
They're going to have the guns either way.
alex jones
They're going to have the guns either way.
Okay.
Are y'all familiar with UN biospheres and how 25 of our national parks have now been turned over to international control, which is directly controlled by foreign banks?
unidentified
No, I haven't heard of that.
alex jones
You haven't heard of that?
I have not heard of that.
unidentified
Not much attention to it, man.
I wish I did, but...
alex jones
You've got to speak out against evil now or submit in silence later.
Well, just one more question.
Do y'all think we're living...
Do you think the country is more of a free country now than it was ten years ago?
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
It definitely is.
Well, sure.
I mean, in my opinion, you would be free culturally with sex and things like that.
unidentified
It's a lot more open-minded.
alex jones
Yeah, open-minded to things that are nebulous and surface-oriented.
Do you think it's open-minded when it comes to input?
What do you think about cameras being put up at lots of major intersections and being integrated with the federal?
unidentified
That's a cheap way to give a ticket, I think.
alex jones
You got it.
Control, exactly.
Make more money.
unidentified
I don't like that.
alex jones
You don't like that?
What do you think about the thumb scanners that are being put in to get a driver's license and the same systems?
I don't like that.
It has all your information on your driver's license.
You slap your thumbprint on there, it has all your information.
Did you know the same system is being put in New York and their banks and in Atlanta, Georgia, and it's all integrated?
What do you think about business and the federal government having the same system that's integrated in Laney, Virginia at the National Security Agency headquarters and at the National Surveillance Center and the National Identification Center?
Big brother.
unidentified
That's a trip.
alex jones
That is big brother and a half right there.
Okay, last question.
In y'all's opinion, why does the mainstream media not want to alert us to the police state?
unidentified
I don't know.
I wish I do.
alex jones
Because 267 million Americans, even though a lot of us don't make very much money, altogether taxing us over 52% on average, they're making one hell of a lot of money.
$360 billion in foreign interest payments to the foreign banks, i.e., foreign governments, last year in 1996. Think about it, man.
Oh, but they love us.
They help the children.
unidentified
But then again, government is just like a set of laws.
alex jones
It's forced, it's power.
unidentified
To help our society get along.
alex jones
You can't not have government.
unidentified
There has to be some government, but it's getting out of hand.
It's getting worse and worse, and they control more and more these days.
alex jones
That's right.
They're the radicals.
They're the radicals.
All I'm saying is I want government to stop growing.
Guys, fantastic interview.
This will be on the Jeff Davis show tomorrow night from 7.30 to 10.30 p.m.
on Channel 10. Thanks a lot, guys.
He's got his food.
He doesn't want to talk about the Nazis taking over.
See there, people?
Bread and circus.
I saw that guy on purpose.
He had his food in his hand.
He did not want to talk.
See that, folks?
He had food in hand.
He did not want to talk.
Bread and circus, baby.
But you and Waco, did you see the film Waco Rules and Engagement?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
That showed the FBI machine gunning the people and catching the place on fire?
unidentified
Really?
Yes, that was...
I didn't miss that.
alex jones
The Osberger statesman had it on its cover page and even itself, but then they said, well, the feds were just mentally ill is all they said.
unidentified
Oh, really?
Yeah, that happens sometimes.
I mean, the postal or...
alex jones
Yeah, so the feds are out.
Well, I appreciate that information, sir.
unidentified
Oh, sure.
I thought it was kind of cool, you know, just, you know, them holed up in there for a while and, you know, they waited their time until it was just getting out of hand.
I mean, financially, I just thought it was a huge waste of money, you know, it's just like, just back out of there and wait, you know, and then, you know, pick them off the streets later on.
It's not like they're going to stay holed up in there the entire time.
I probably would have just left them be and just wait for them to come out on their own volition.
I mean, for them to camp out in front, you know, for, what was it, a month and a half, two months?
I don't remember.
But, yeah, I just thought that was crazy.
alex jones
And playing the sounds of squealing dying rabbits and Nancy Sinatra with demons talking in the background, heavy metal music, 24 hours a day with blaring lights, and then to pump in thousands of gallons of abandoned chemical weapons CS gas.
That wasn't too nice, was it?
unidentified
Uh, it's not really the nice factor.
I mean, sometimes you do what you have to do, but it's the financial factor.
alex jones
But Hitler didn't do what he had to do, did he?
unidentified
No.
No, Hitler was evil.
alex jones
Because he killed people.
unidentified
Oh, well...
alex jones
And that's wrong.
unidentified
Yeah, well...
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