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jeff davies
Okay folks, we're back for the final little segment here.
And I want to just mention again, November 25th.
We've got another hot show for you folks.
Let me just mention that first next week we're not going to be on live.
We've got three hours of the Capital Crime video from 7.30 to 10.30.
And then on the 14th, next Thursday, we've got...
We've got a special hour-and-a-half presentation at 9 o'clock, and then on the 25th of November, right here, we've got Justice for the Davidians, May 25th, 7.30, three hours of live call-in.
We've got several Branch Davidian survivors coming down, Clive Doyle, Catherine Madison, Sheila Martin, and we're going to throw them all in front of you folks.
And I want you to look, I want you people out there that are...
alex jones
To look at the extremists.
jeff davies
Yeah, and I want you to tell Clive Doyle to his face that his 18-year-old daughter deserved to be burned in the so-called compound.
And if you think that's justified, then I want you to tell Clive Doyle that on this show on the 25th, live, here on the program.
Join us.
Joining us, we've got a familiar face at ACTV and another, an interesting fellow.
I want to just mention that I've done a little bit of, well, let me just give you, first, Alex Jones over here to my right.
He's got Exposing Mass Media.
alex jones
Exposing Mass Media, that's the key, folks.
Got a target on the media.
Everything you hear has been filtered, censored, or twisted.
jeff davies
Okay.
And to my left over here, we have Shelly Williams.
Now, Shelly, you're a Ute Indian?
And you had ties to Dennis Banks and Russell Means of the American Indian Movement, who I have to confess that at one time I was a fan of Dennis Banks.
But I've read and heard some things lately that you say are not true.
unidentified
No, Dennis Banks is actually a great person.
He's fighting for the Navajo people.
Which the New World Order is basically trying to wipe out the Navajo people for that land so that they can keep that mine going that's there, that they're getting the coal, the uranium and that.
So Dennis Banks is real active in that.
jeff davies
He's still alive and he's pretty silent though.
He's still a rebel.
Is Russell Means still alive?
unidentified
Russell Means is still alive.
Both of them have come out with books.
jeff davies
I have actually studied the American Indian Movement in depth.
In fact, I have some friends who are members of the Black Panther Party who I, for the most part, support a lot of their efforts as well.
If you're familiar with some of their...
unidentified
Some of their philosophies.
jeff davies
Well, they're on to a lot of the problems that we face.
And then Alex here is going to get into some of the in-depth problems that we face.
alex jones
Yeah, I got factual information, folks, right here.
Right here.
jeff davies
Wait a minute now, folks.
unidentified
We've got to keep this at a pace that we're...
jeff davies
So, let me just introduce to the Austin viewing audience Alex Jones.
alex jones
Hello, folks.
jeff davies
Shelly Williams.
Okay, just go ahead and just 30 seconds.
Brief introduction.
alex jones
Hi, I'm Alex Jones, and I just...
These guys are going to get me on here and tease me.
Anyways, right here, folks.
This is just a Federal Reserve greenback that Kennedy issued.
He was killed.
Just about four weeks after this.
unidentified
Oh, it's over here.
alex jones
Over there.
He was killed about four weeks after.
You can see the red seal on him.
He issued $4.5 billion of these, and he got his head blown off a few weeks later.
This happens to any president or anybody that tries to print our own money that's not controlled by the centralized bankers that are mainly based offshore.
And just one more little factual information for y'all.
You'll hear about these $20 billion mergers and people going, ooh, $20 billion, wow, British Telecom just bought this or that.
Folks, this year we're going to pay over $360 billion just on the interest of our debt, our $5.2 trillion debt.
So you think about that right there, folks.
That's the biggest industry in the world, just financing our little debt.
These bankers run the world, and you never hear about them.
And I don't mean your bank down the street.
I mean the big banks.
jeff davies
Including Bob Dole, right?
alex jones
Well, yeah, he loves to get me.
See, they're attacking me.
Well, listen, most of these Republicans, most of these people who've been assassinated for trying to give us these, except for Kennedy, we're all Republicans.
But you're right.
They have taken over.
jeff davies
A brief introduction of yourself and what you mentioned to me earlier that you were...
Fighting against this so-called New World Order.
unidentified
Yeah, I've been fighting against New World Order basically from 1973 at Wounded Knee.
We, in turn, saw what our government and New World Order was doing at that time in trying to control because it basically was after the uranium, the mining and stuff, mistreating the people.
jeff davies
Well, let me ask you, where is Wounded Knee?
Is that South Dakota?
unidentified
That's in South Dakota.
jeff davies
Yeah, okay.
And what was Wounded Knee all about?
I know it was the American Indian Movement.
What was the American Indian Movement fighting for?
unidentified
Well, it was fighting, basically, it started out with Yellowtail murder, but it ended to escalate with Dickie Wilson, which was the tribal council member or chief.
And he was opening up uranium mining in the Black Hills of the Badlands.
And what was happening is that he was getting a lot of money from the New World Order to get, basically, to open up this mining and all this and promised a lot of jobs and stuff.
But what was then happening is that people were dying.
The Lakota people were dying from poison.
They would open up a pothole full of uranium, and it would run into the rivers, and people were dying.
And our government, behind the New World Order, they didn't care.
alex jones
Now they call themselves globalists.
So when you hear New World Order like Bush used to spout, now Clinton calls it globalists, you know, because they had to change the name.
I think that's why Bush got run out of there, because he started saying, it will be a New World Order.
And they said, uh-oh, you know, and so people got on to that.
Now Clinton's up there always spouting globalists for the global community, for the children.
And that's what they're headed for, folks.
I mean, it's just total greed, total anarchy of their control.
It's mob rule from the top down.
1% controls 100% of everything.
And, you know, you may have a car and a house or whatever, but believe me, they will...
They will try to revoke that at any time if we ever really started to find out what's going on.
I mean, right here, folks, is a list of people who've been assassinated.
You know, seven attempts on Andrew Jackson, who did take the controller from the bankers fully, and he had to have guards all the way around him.
In fact, he was one of the first presidents to have a secret security force to guard him.
And as we moved down, Lincoln was assassinated right after he brought out the greenback because the big bankers wanted to fully control the Western expansion.
James Garfield.
That was another assassination attempt.
President McKinley, he was assassinated because, I mean, he openly, folks, go get a New York Times or something from the 1880s, and you'll read it.
Every day people talked about the banks and the money system.
Now we've just forgotten about it.
Used to, elections were fought over that almost solely because people understood that money and currency was the key to their lives.
Now we've just forgotten.
We just believe whatever the nightly news tells us, and folks, money is power.
I mean, we've all heard that old adage.
Money is the root of all evil.
Well, I don't believe that.
I believe that evil people, though, tend to get control of the money supply.
I mean, you know, going back to Babylon.
jeff davies
Yeah, but we have to clarify that.
It's not like a corporation that makes money.
alex jones
No.
jeff davies
It's people that print money.
alex jones
That's the power.
Listen, folks, generally I'm...
jeff davies
There's a lot of people that don't understand.
It's the people that are printing the money.
alex jones
Yes, exactly.
Well, I mean, that's what this greenback is with the red seal on it.
See, President McKinley printed these.
Lincoln printed these.
And then the last president to print them was no other than Kennedy.
All these people were assassinated, folks.
You print these bills, you're dead.
If the U.S. government starts printing its own money, the person printing it is assassinated.
It doesn't matter if they're congressmen or senators.
They're found shot in the head.
jeff davies
Let me just mention this particular bill right here, and we'll get to Shelley here in a minute.
unidentified
The reason why the...
jeff davies
International bankers didn't like it.
alex jones
See the red spot, folks?
jeff davies
It's because it's not interest-bearing, which means that the U.S. taxpayers did not have to pay a compounding interest payment on this particular medium of exchange as opposed to the Federal Reserve note.
alex jones
We're paying the Federal Reserve!
jeff davies
Which is a compounding interest payment.
alex jones
We're not paying the Federal Reserve for the privilege of getting money.
We're paying the Federal Reserve for the privilege of just having money.
unidentified
That's it.
alex jones
You go work 40 hours a week to get your paycheck, know this.
The government, just to print money, has to pay the Federal Reserve to be able to print that.
They control our money supply, folks.
This is one thing that I do.
I am for privatization in most things, except for this one thing, folks.
We cannot have our money supply in the hands of a bunch of foreign and elitist bankers, and that is 100%.
This isn't stuff for kooks.
This is 100% factual.
Look it up for yourselves.
Find out.
Every time this happens, people get assassinated.
Every time people try to, you know, I mean, in this crooked situation, stuff starts happening.
jeff davies
Okay.
On those lines, let me go ahead and tie this in.
Now, I was told.
Now, you were at Wounded Knee.
unidentified
I was 16 years old at Wounded Knee in 1973. At the time, Dennis Banks and Russell Means.
Dennis Banks, Russell Means.
jeff davies
Now, what about the story going around, and I've read this.
In fact, the JBS published this, and they're not the only ones.
That Dennis Banks and the American Indian Movement actually received a $400,000 grant from the federal government.
And basically, the idea is that they create, by funding the The element that's causing the problems, they basically sell out.
And then Dennis Banks and his bunch moved into Wounded Deep, created a bunch of chaos.
And then the Feds move in, create more laws.
unidentified
No.
jeff davies
Well, I'm just throwing out this.
Because this is how they operate, by creating chaos.
alex jones
Has anybody seen the maps?
Get yourself a tribal lands map and find out and look on it, and that should be owed to the Indians or more.
And look at it, there's all these giant red areas on a green map that are to the tribes.
It's, I mean, you know, it's like half the size of Texas nationwide or more.
And that's their land.
So, of course, a fellow government's stealing citizens' land any way it can now.
Folks, it's all part of precedent.
Right now, the federal government's just taking a little land here, tightening down here, doing this and that there, training us that if they stamp the word environmentalist on it, that it's fine to do.
That's all part of the slow increments toward being able to steal our land, just like they stole the Indians.
You know, these bankers never give it to you forever.
They say, okay, folks, you go and take it from the Indians, we'll give it to you.
Okay, now you've taken it from them, now it's ours again.
The American Banking Association sent out memos in 1891 stating their set policy to make farmers tenants on their land just like it was in England.
Why?
Because most of this money is coming from foreign English banks.
Ask yourself this.
Just this week in the news, you've got British Telecom buying one of our biggest telecommunications companies here for $20 billion.
Okay, that's an American company all over the world.
How is British Telecom buying up one of our companies?
That's because they've got all the big banking money.
They're making hundreds of billions a year.
Out of nothing!
All they got to do is buy our politicians for a few hundred million a year, then they control this whole country's monetary system, and they charge us to print money.
They're screwing it to you, folks, and that's why you'll never hear about the press, because it's the biggest industry in the world.
jeff davies
Because they've also bought up the major media.
alex jones
Oh, the press is, I mean, let's, yeah.
jeff davies
And that's, we'll touch on that in a minute here, because that's your basic theme of your show.
I want to just ask you, so, I'm sorry.
unidentified
No, no, go ahead.
That's fine.
You're just co-hosting.
Yeah, he's co-hosting.
jeff davies
But anyway, Shelly, I want to get back to this wounded knee thing because I am very intrigued.
Maybe you're not familiar with this.
Oh, I know.
What year did that happen?
unidentified
1973. Wounded knee, South Dakota.
jeff davies
What exactly happened?
unidentified
Well, basically what happened, you know, there was a lot of...
The fallacy that went on about this $400,000 that supposedly Dennis Banks and Russell Means and the AIM members got, well, they didn't get a damn dime.
What it was is it was brought on by the tribal leader, which was Dickie Wilson at the time.
He was being controlled by the government because they wanted the Badlands for uranium.
They wanted that uranium.
So what was Dennis Banks?
They were the starters.
Well, the thing is, Dennis Banks ran against Dickie Wilson in the elections.
jeff davies
He's still alive, right?
unidentified
Yes.
Well, Dickie Wilson, nobody's seen him actually since 1975. Nobody knows where he's at.
The government pulled him out, and he's disappeared under protection someplace.
But what took place is that...
They were fighting because of this uranium.
People were dying.
Okay?
There has never been any satisfaction to the Lakota people.
jeff davies
Well, what happened that specific day?
unidentified
Were Indians killed?
Actually, the thing is...
jeff davies
Did the FBI move in on them?
unidentified
Well, we had the FBI move in.
We had National Guard.
1973, what ended Wounded Knee was that Buddy Lamont...
He was the only person killed at Wounded Knee.
He was one of the AIM members or Lakota people.
He's still buried there.
He's the only one that was buried.
But the federal government came in and they shot at us.
I've got a scar.
jeff davies
What were you trying to do?
Just keep your property?
unidentified
We were claiming the knee back as independent property away from the government, away from the Lakota people.
You know, from Dickie Wilson and his little goons that he had up there, our whole idea was to, that was ours.
That was the free new land that we were going to open up.
Run it in a very open fashion.
It was a very spiritual place.
It's still a very spiritual place to this day.
So that was just the beginnings of my knowledge of what the New World Order was about and what I've stayed in with the American Indian Movement.
I've been very active in it.
I've seen what they've done.
As far as people, they're destroying the Red Man.
In 1890, when Wounded Knee first happened from 7th Cavalry, over 500 people were killed.
It had come in just months prior to that.
That the Red Man or Indian or Native American, whatever you want to call them.
I like using the word Native American.
It was the federal government's idea to destroy them.
To this day, the Native Americans should not even be alive because that's what our government was after.
They did not want the Red Man because the Red Man had too much freedom or...
They didn't understand the red man, but they knew that in later years, 100 years, 200 years, the red man is the one that would bring the people together, all four colors of people, red, white, black, yellow, all of them together through spirituality.
Their religion is not written down.
Our religion is not written down.
So their plan was by 1830, 1840, or 1930, 1940, It's the earliest.
Red man wasn't even supposed to be on this earth anymore.
jeff davies
And who were they that was trying to eliminate?
unidentified
Basically, New World Order.
jeff davies
The international banking.
The establishment, right.
unidentified
The international banking.
They keep the red man in poverty constantly.
alex jones
And there's something else I wanted to say.
People, you drive your Cadillac.
You make $100,000 a year.
Everybody makes money.
It's not a big deal.
You think you're part of the established because you can dress nice.
jeff davies
They're allowing them to do that.
alex jones
Yeah, exactly.
You think you're part of the establishment?
Folks, you're down in the lower percentage.
I'm talking about 1% of the population controls 90-something percent of the wealth in this country, and all you are is a slave to the establishment.
And if we continue to let this corruption continue, it's going to pervade everything.
I mean, look what we did to the Indians.
Look what we did to the African Americans.
Look what certain institutions have done all over the world, no matter what.
Power corrupts absolutely power corrupts absolutely.
And what we're doing is allowing this to continue.
And it's been proven, folks.
I mean, they control this country, and they'll kill anybody that gets in their way.
I mean, you know, if you get any clout, any power, and who they kill is people who are in positions of power.
President, senators, people that really get good.
unidentified
Well, I don't know.
jeff davies
They'll send young 18-year-olds to go fight in Vietnam.
alex jones
Exactly, exactly.
jeff davies
They'll do crap.
alex jones
Well, like, that's the old thing.
jeff davies
My personal opinion is, too, that they're, at least on the surface, supporting the abortion clinics.
alex jones
Well, see, that's the oldest trick in the book is it's been proven that going back a thousand years, France and England used to get together and say, okay, well, we're having some problems.
Let's have a war.
And they'd have a hundred year war.
Because as soon as revolution cranks up, that was the old way of handling it.
Let's have a Vietnam.
Let's have a whatever.
Let's send the troops off.
And that's the best way of social control, folks, is you find an enemy outside.
You point at it and say, okay, that's the problem.
And people quit focusing on what's going on at home.
jeff davies
Oh, what's really going on.
alex jones
And exactly.
Now we're being given all these little petty things to worry about.
You know, this or that or, you know, your sexual orientation.
People, who cares?
Forget about all that.
Get involved in your monetary system, in your land rights, in your spiritual rights.
Don't let them sell you out anymore.
jeff davies
The fact is, we're all in the same boat.
Unless you're aware of it, the majority of people are being tremendously manipulative.
unidentified
I've heard a lot of really rich people.
alex jones
You've got to have over a billion dollars to be even near their club.
unidentified
Well, I agree with that because you look at, you know, they've brought in HIV. They brought in...
alex jones
This is proof, folks.
They're bringing in 50...
Clinton this year brought in 50,000 illegal immigrants that had felony records.
They are importing both parties.
That is true.
Immigration just skyrocks no matter what administration.
They just, oh, it's a problem.
And I'm not against people from other cultures.
But they ought to bring in the people that don't have a criminal record.
They're bringing in murderers and killers that are being dumped off by Fidel, by whoever, people in Central Africa.
jeff davies
But that plays into their hands.
Because then they can...
unidentified
I think they're behind the HIV-AIDS thing.
A few years back, a disease popped up in the Four Corners area.
They blamed it on a flea.
They blamed it on the squirrel.
jeff davies
The green monkey in Africa.
unidentified
They bring this all in.
There's no cure for it.
The whole idea is the New World Order was behind this to sit down and destroy the Navajo people.
jeff davies
Oh, do you think it's just...
Well, it's not just that.
unidentified
Listen to this fellow over here.
jeff davies
Oh, it's much bigger than that.
alex jones
No, I mean, he's talking about his own little...
Yeah, but what I'm saying is this, folks, is you can get into all this other stuff and you can say, okay, that's a bunch of bull.
It has been proven the AIDS virus looks just like an engineered virus.
It looks like they took...
jeff davies
In fact, do you know the actual story behind it is?
Now, I don't know if this is true, but the story behind it is in 1979 on a Naval Hospital in Maryland.
They actually financed some medical scientists to create a virus.
alex jones
We put tens of billions of dollars a year into biological warfare of a non-chemical nature.
jeff davies
Because they needed a...
What this does is that, first off, it eliminates a certain amount of...
alex jones
All I'll say to you is...
unidentified
That's the way it is.
alex jones
What does Prince Philip say?
Prince Philip isn't a young man.
He's the husband of Queen Elizabeth in England, and then the Dutch Role family, you know, Dutch Role Shell, and all that.
They're all called Malthusians.
They believe Africans don't have a right to live.
They believe people in South America should die.
And that's why the IMF, the International...
The International Monetary Fund, this is all factual, folks, will not loan money to South American, Central American, and African countries for development unless they have a certain quota of sterilization and birth control for their women.
I mean, they come in and they cut the ovaries out, folks.
So this is happening.
This is happening all over.
A few years ago, they had a large women's conference in Beijing, China.
I mean, that's one of the worst places in the world where women are nothing there.
They're like dust on the ground.
But, oh, let's run off and have a huge UN women's conference there and act like Beijing's wonderful.
It's like they're practicing this stuff, like a doctor would practice medicine, like a lawyer would practice law.
They're practicing evil.
And that's what they're doing, folks.
And it's all because they control the monetary supply.
And that's not enough.
You know, I meet people all the time who say, well, the Federal Reserve has worked pretty good.
If you call, your tax is going from 2% in 1950. 33%, 40%, depending, not counting state and local.
If you call that good, then I've got a bridge I want to tell you.
Come over here and I'll tell you something.
jeff davies
Let me clarify.
First off, if you're judging it on how much materialistic things that we have on the surface, Alex, that appears to be the case.
alex jones
Exactly.
Manufacturing.
jeff davies
But the fact is that they understand how to control slaves.
alex jones
Bread and circus folks.
jeff davies
Yeah, they don't care if you have a car or a house that's supposedly under your...
unidentified
But we're going to scan your thumb when you get a driver's license.
jeff davies
They are controlling our food and air and water systems as well though.
But they're giving the slaves...
Let me qualify that.
alex jones
They're not putting stuff in it.
jeff davies
Let me just mention, though, Alec, they do control it.
Even the slaves in Egypt had basic food, water, and shelter, as in Rome.
alex jones
As here.
jeff davies
As here.
I mean, just because they're allowing you to have some basic necessities of life doesn't mean that we're not enslaved.
A lot of people don't understand that.
They base everything on how much they got a new car.
But the fact is, if you look at the whole situation, we are totally enslaved.
In fact, our taxes...
The situation right now is like 52%.
unidentified
Yes.
jeff davies
And back in the old feudalism days, Shelly, I mean, the feudal serfs only gave 25% of their income to their masters.
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
Only gave 25% to the sheriff.
jeff davies
So what does that make us?
alex jones
Well, we're slaves.
jeff davies
So they give you some cars and some food.
alex jones
And they make you feel like you're part of the establishment.
unidentified
Yeah, make you feel real good, give you nice heights.
jeff davies
But the fact of the matter is, folks, just like Rome, Egypt, everywhere, Because you don't have your real freedom.
That's right.
They've taken everything else away from you and given you some material things.
alex jones
Listen, I'm not knocking material things.
No, I'm not either.
That's not the point though.
Jeff has been on this show longer than me and he gets more technical into the nuts and bolts of things.
I like to attack...
Basic things that are right in front of your face, like our monetary system is controlled by a private organization.
jeff davies
Yeah, but a lot of people, you have to explain.
alex jones
Yeah, I understand.
jeff davies
You have to explain that just, you know, because a lot of people, if they have a house and a car, in their mind, that's it.
alex jones
Listen, folks, if you're making, like I said again, if you're making a million dollars a year, you're nothing!
You're nothing!
Okay, I'm telling you that.
I have some money.
And I'm telling you, folks, there's people that are just bathing in money, control whole countries.
jeff davies
By the way, I've got to interrupt just for a minute here.
To avoid any...
I'm assuming you are both against what the feds did in Waco tax.
unidentified
Yes, I am.
jeff davies
Okay.
alex jones
Well, I'll tell you this.
I don't know what went on with...
I know this.
I don't trust the media for one reason.
Five years ago, I started watching C-SPAN, and I learned this real fast, folks.
That you'll see something happen on the news, and then I would have seen it already on C-SPAN, which is a governmental channel.
I've seen something happen.
It's not a difference of opinion.
It's a fact.
And then I've seen it come out the other end of the media completely different.
So when I heard how mean the press civilians were and all that, sure, if I took what the media said, I'd say, good thing what they did.
But, folks, it's wrong even if that was true for tanks.
You know, the media told us that lanterns fell over.
I saw those tanks driving halfway into that building.
I saw the smoke come out.
I saw, and this is a fact, even that I saw...
jeff davies
And remember, they did it for the kids.
The thing is, how did they know a kid wasn't on the other side of the...
alex jones
Listen to this, folks.
They wanted an example.
They wanted to show people that any anti-government movement, no matter who you are, is not going to be tolerated.
It was an example.
And here is one thing...
jeff davies
Hey, we've got them black helicopters that you don't like floating across there.
I see them.
alex jones
Listen, listen.
unidentified
Yeah, that looks great.
jeff davies
You ever heard about them black helicopters?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Folks, there is one thing that is unequivocal.
I saw this in Arlen Specter's Senate.
This is real.
In our government in Washington, this isn't bull.
I know you didn't hear about it on Tom Brokaw or anybody.
This is true, folks.
They pumped a deadly, toxic nerve gas.
It wasn't a tear gas.
It was a mild nerve gas into the compound by the hundreds of squares.
unidentified
Into the house.
jeff davies
Into the house.
alex jones
Let's not use the compound word.
It's the media.
Folks, that stuff is highly flammable.
When it ignites, it forms Almost pure cyanide.
Most of the people in the house were killed by cyanide.
Now, that was in your own Senate hearings.
That was in your own Senate hearings.
You don't want to believe it?
Then don't, okay?
Just believe whatever the crap they hand you.
You can be a slave.
Folks, they're pumping poison and driving tanks into buildings.
This is real.
That's all I have to say.
It's incredible.
unidentified
Yeah.
jeff davies
Did you have a...
Go ahead, Sean.
Did you have a...
unidentified
Well, you know, I look at it in this way, that they were a spiritual group practicing...
Their rights to freedom of religion and that.
jeff davies
What this country is supposed to be.
unidentified
They also, I know for a fact that they had four or five people in there that had licensed guns.
jeff davies
Yes, they did.
alex jones
And none of the guns were illegal.
unidentified
None of the guns were illegal.
That's something that, you know, has been brought up from the 60s.
They stopped automatic weapons, fully automatic weapons, and then all of a sudden, you know, they hand guns, and then you sit down and...
Semi-automatics.
But you're not a loving person.
You're obviously with violence and death.
Wait a minute.
I love everybody.
The government will keep us safe.
alex jones
The government loves us.
unidentified
The New World Order is out to sit down and have every gun from the American people.
You might not believe it, but started back in the 60s.
alex jones
They're scanning our thumbs, folks.
I mean, when are you going to get a driver's license?
jeff davies
Yeah, just a minute here.
alex jones
Yeah, let's take some calls.
unidentified
Go from the 60s up.
Well, I'm glad to hear you all say it.
1998, he ain't going to be able to own a gun.
jeff davies
Well, let me just ask you briefly then.
Are they going to get their new world order?
alex jones
They got it.
They got it, buddy.
unidentified
They've got it, but it can be stopped.
alex jones
All they got to do is confiscate the guns, and it's over.
unidentified
That's it.
As soon as they can get enough pansy know-it-alls to go, my congressman knows what's right.
alex jones
I'll be safe once there's no guns.
unidentified
Folks, that's why they've been...
They're out to sit down and get that.
jeff davies
But you said that you don't think it ain't over with yet.
alex jones
It's not over with.
jeff davies
I'll never say that it's over with.
alex jones
I'm not saying that we're total slaves.
I'm just saying that they...
jeff davies
Oh, I say we're total slaves.
alex jones
No, no.
They've got the...
No, see, Jeff just thinks you would disagree and that's...
unidentified
No, listen.
jeff davies
No, but I mean...
But they'd like to increase the...
alex jones
They control all the major institutions 100%.
They tax us seven ways to...
jeff davies
My information is they want a chip in your hand, Alex.
alex jones
Well, I'll tell you this, folks.
All I know is this.
jeff davies
Are you going to take that chip?
alex jones
Listen, 20 years ago.
I've got a question to ask him, though.
Listen, 20 years ago, folks, 20 years ago, people were getting pissed off about having to have a...
Pitch you on your driver's license.
Now, that's reasonable, folks.
But now, when you go get your driver's license, there's a little black box sitting there, like something out of a science fiction movie, and they scan your thumb.
You're in the computer.
Now, you're not a criminal.
jeff davies
There's been some problems.
alex jones
We need to take care of this.
And, folks, they started that thumb scanning in Sweden and in Switzerland about 15 years ago.
Now, guess what, folks?
They're putting transmitters in kids' hands over in Europe.
jeff davies
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
Okay?
So next, it's going to come over here.
unidentified
Now, if you think this is bull, go down to the driver's license and find out and get that.
alex jones
Next.
Next, find out, somebody that's lived in Sweden or in Switzerland, find out that they're trying to encourage people to have their kids done in case they get kidnapped.
I'm sure that's a good idea.
If it wasn't such a manipulated plan, they tested stuff out over in those rich, big-wig countries over there in Europe where the bankers emanate from.
You know, Swiss bank account, you've heard of that, folks?
Listen, that's where the...
That's where the money presses are built and designed, and that's where all the exclusive patents are, is Switzerland.
That's where all these ideas come from.
They infiltrated England, now they control the whole world.
So you think this is a bunch of crap?
Go ahead and think you're part of the establishment and drive your nice car.
jeff davies
Just feel real good.
alex jones
Yeah, just feel real good and just know that your money, know that a bunch of presidents like Kennedy and other people have had their heads blown.
Look at this note right here.
It's got, see?
jeff davies
Yeah, that's a United States note.
That's a critical, such a critical.
alex jones
This is a United States Greenback, folks.
You ever see any red on a bill?
That's because they wanted you to know this is our bill, not the banker's bill.
jeff davies
That's right.
alex jones
These are our money, folks, right here.
And here's all the people that have been assassinated.
Look at all those names that were attempted assassinations.
jeff davies
You can't see them, but they're on there.
alex jones
Yeah, they're all, I mean, just dozens.
jeff davies
You know about that.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
So, folks, you think about that.
jeff davies
Folks, you know about that.
alex jones
Folks, you think about that right there.
That's who's controlling this country.
unidentified
I've probably got five or six of those that have a little red.
jeff davies
You know about the banking thing?
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
I've heard about the banking thing.
alex jones
Next time you hear about some big merger, $5 billion, it's like what it costs to make a dollar bill.
Read it all.
Next time you hear about that, folks, you think about the simple fact, folks.
I mean, just think about it.
All these, look, Andrew Jackson, seven assassination attempts, and anybody knows Andrew Jackson?
He was pro-American.
See, a real leader wants the people to be free so they can do whatever the hell they want as long as it doesn't hurt somebody else.
And then you've got free spirit.
That's a real leader that sees people growing and living and having a good life.
These people have to hide behind closed doors, control our monetary system to the tune of just interest payments.
$360 billion is going to be this year.
$360 billion out of our $5.2 trillion debt.
That's why the debt's never going to go down.
jeff davies
Yeah, but Alex...
Of course, it's in our best answer.
unidentified
We can take the calls.
jeff davies
But it's in our best answer.
alex jones
Well, of course, because we don't know how to manage our money.
unidentified
We must have scientific control of recessions.
alex jones
We can't let the mad howl of democracy have control.
unidentified
We can't let those foolish little people have control.
We must tax them and show them the way and have a war here for them and have something here for them and tax them to tax.
alex jones
Your taxes are only going up, folks.
Soon we will be a feudalist system.
unidentified
Soon?
jeff davies
I just said 50%.
We're already totally enslaved.
In fact, I mean, just the right to have one of these cars.
alex jones
Well, Jeff.
jeff davies
You know, I mean, you have to get it.
You got to pay taxes.
unidentified
You got to get insurance.
You got to have a driver's license.
You got to have this.
jeff davies
When you get out there, you have people watching.
unidentified
With radar guns and folks.
alex jones
The worst part of it is, is this, though.
Our monetary system, we are enslaved in our monetary system, but listen.
jeff davies
Yeah, I see.
alex jones
Listen, our monetary system is enslaved, but the worst part is most people's brains are.
jeff davies
No, we're going to take the break.
If they want to talk, they'll stay on the line.
alex jones
Folks, people don't even know about this, folks.
Nobody talks about it, and nobody cares, and that's the scary part.
jeff davies
Okay, Alex Jones, Shelley Williams, we'll be back in about five minutes.
alex jones
We're back, buddy.
jeff davies
And we're going to take these calls, and we'll wrap up the show here.
We've got to buy another.
Well, we've got 20 minutes.
We'll take about five minutes.
alex jones
That's more fun.
jeff davies
We'll be back.
Stay on the lines, folks, and we'll take your calls when we get back.
Hello, folks.
We are back.
And we've got just about 15 more minutes.
I want to just mention, we'll get to the calls in a minute.
I've got to ask you this, because I've been...
Tell us about White Buffalo.
unidentified
White Buffalo.
White Buffalo was born in 1994. And she brought messages and hope to many people and many spiritual people.
And the spiritual people and the medicine people got messages from her.
And she had predicted messages to these people as, one, destruction due to the new world order, starvation, fires, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions.
But she also had made predictions that through the spariology of people, of uniting of the four colors in all religions, uniting together as one, they can overthrow the new world order.
That'd be good.
And bring it back to peace, love, and harmony where everybody is equal.
Not controlled by money and monetary and land and all this.
So that was the most important thing that she had delivered.
jeff davies
She was born when?
unidentified
In 1994. She's two years old?
She's two years old.
jeff davies
How could she deliver all of that in two years?
unidentified
Quite easily.
She had those messages.
It goes back to 19 generations when the first white buffalo calf woman was brought the sacred pipe.
Are we talking about a buffalo or a person?
She had turned from a person to a white buffalo as she left, but she had brought messages that there would be a European...
jeff davies
Is this an Indian legend?
unidentified
This is a true Indian legend, but she had brought, 19 generations ago, 600 years ago, she had brought the message that a European force with People, white people with lots of money would come and invade this land.
That they would eventually control or take over through money, power and stuff to control the land, the people, slavery.
When White Buffalo Calf was born in 1994, she did come back, and she had delivered some messages saying that these prophecies would happen.
In two years, these prophecies that she had brought in 1994 have already started.
The river's taken back over, but this is all controlled from the New World Order and the little things that are up in the air that we have that we call satellites and all this.
Weather changes.
That was one of the things that she had said was going to happen.
Well, it's being controlled by this new world order from these little things up in the sky, you know, that we call satellites.
People might not believe this, but it actually does happen.
It's been seen in two years.
The prophecies that she has done, has brought to these people, have already started happening.
Fires in California, all up and down the West Coast.
Earthquakes increasing.
Rivers, flooding.
She predicted flooding in 1996. Well, we've had a lot of flooding down in the South and the East Coast.
She also predicted that there would be 16 hurricanes in 1996. Well, what are we on?
Number 13, 14 now?
They've hit this year?
So the things are happening, but those are being controlled.
And happening from them little satellites up there, which is...
It takes a billion dollars to send a satellite up.
Where's the money come from?
It's coming from the New World Order.
It's not coming from our government.
It's not coming from us paying taxes.
jeff davies
Well, actually, it probably is coming from us.
unidentified
They steal from us and use it against us.
jeff davies
Okay.
Alex, quickly.
Well, he's got an announcement he's going to do.
alex jones
Yeah, I was just going to say this, folks.
I don't get into the spiritual realm of things and everything.
jeff davies
That's an interesting conversation.
alex jones
No, it is.
I just don't get into that.
I get into factual stuff like the Greenback, like us issuing our own money in this country like we used to do.
Factual stuff like that.
On my show, Exposing Mass Media, I will use stuff like bills and information.
You will see factual information that you can get on the Internet, on the House webpage, get it for yourself, stuff like that.
I'm going to start having some guests in the next few weeks, and I think I'm going to have Jeff on.
This Wednesday, me, Jeff, and Galen Ross, who is an ex-CIA agent.
He has all the proof.
He's written several books.
He's an old gentleman.
In fact, I've actually read about him in some other books that are just books about the history of the CIA. He's like 70-something years old.
He's a very nice gentleman.
jeff davies
He's not that old.
alex jones
Oh, yes, he is.
That's what it says in his book.
jeff davies
Not that old.
alex jones
That'll be on this same channel, Channel 10, from 7 to 8.30 p.m.
this Wednesday.
And Jeff will be on the show with Galen Ross, probably.
jeff davies
What's the date on that?
alex jones
Because this is on tape in Fort Worth.
jeff davies
Yeah, that's right.
This is on tape in Fort Worth?
Yeah, this is being cable cast in Fort Worth.
alex jones
Hell, I don't know.
Today's the 4th.
jeff davies
By the way, I've got to mention, folks, that this show is non-copyrighted.
We need to put that on a slate.
And anybody that, like Channel 46 on Fort Worth, Cablevision, can.
alex jones
Or the desert of California.
jeff davies
Yeah, that one station in California that's picking us up.
This is non-copyrighted.
You all feel free to go ahead and slap her up there as much as you want.
alex jones
Well, folks, let's take some of those calls.
Like I said, folks, I'm sure there is all kinds of stuff going on in this world, but I like to focus right in on what's real.
Like you paying up to a 30% tax bracket just in the federal area, not counting your Social Security tax, not counting the state and the local and all the fines and fees you pay.
jeff davies
Hello.
alex jones
Find out about it.
unidentified
Hello?
Hello?
jeff davies
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, hi, Jeff.
jeff davies
Hey, what's going on, Terry?
unidentified
Yeah, this is Terry Louie Parker.
Hello, Alex.
alex jones
Hey, buddy.
How's it going, Terry?
jeff davies
We've met Shelly.
Say hi to Shelly.
unidentified
And Shelly, hi.
Hello.
Well, I guess one way to kind of bring an interesting focus on this is it's going to be at least until the middle of the next century, if not before, or if not after that, before we can have what it takes to project a viable civilization off the face of the planet and out into the asteroid belt where there's minerals and stuff.
And what that means is we now are at this kind of choke point in human history.
We now have the means to do ourselves in.
alex jones
The crossroads.
unidentified
We didn't have those means to do ourselves in in previous centuries.
We do have the means to do that now.
We have enough technology to really screw ourselves royally, but not quite enough to project a viable civilization off the face of the planet.
Now what that means, boys and girls, is We can't do it the same way that we've done in the past.
In the past, we could screw up and we'd mess up a valley or something like that, but now we can mess up the whole place and make it impossible for all of us to live.
So one of the ways to avoid the screw-up is to quit going to big daddy government and asking for favors.
alex jones
So we can give something bigger a chance to screw things up.
That's what government always does.
unidentified
This trait within us, we're going to need two traits.
One is the ability to stand on our own two feet and be independent and individual, but also the ability to deal with each other on equitable terms.
And if we don't make that jump, if we decide that the only way we can deal with life is to run to somebody else for help, usually government, or the only way we can deal with the other people around us is to either bully or be bullied.
If that's our only paradigm, we're cooked.
We're not going to get off the face of this planet.
We're going to cook ourselves right here.
That's my view of where we are now, and it happens to be a view that's pretty much supportive of the very central element that the Libertarian Party supports, which is a physical aggression truce.
alex jones
What do you think about Ron Paul for Congress?
unidentified
Say again?
alex jones
What do you think about Ron Paul?
unidentified
Well, you know, the Libertarian Party doesn't have a candidate in that race.
Ron Paul is advocating the repeal of the federal drug prohibition.
He's the Republican candidate.
You would have expected the Democratic candidate to take a position of, if he wanted to beat up Ron Paul for maybe having waffled around on that issue or something, you would have expected the Democratic candidate to say, Well, no, Ron, you're not going far enough.
But no, the Democrat candidate is actually taking a more harsh drug warrior position.
Let's suspend more civil liberties.
Let's see what else we can do to give the police state more power.
That's the Democrat candidate, folks.
alex jones
I mean, this isn't because we want to do drugs.
jeff davies
I appreciate your call, Terry.
alex jones
I mean, I don't use drugs, but I agree.
And I didn't used to believe this, but so much, $120 billion...
unidentified
Go ahead.
jeff davies
Bring up the next call.
Go ahead.
Yes, sir.
alex jones
You're on.
jeff davies
Only got a minute and a half.
unidentified
Yes, I was inquiring if you had any more information on that show that you have on ACTV, No ID Found.
Do they have any newer versions of that?
jeff davies
Yes, sir.
Call the comment line.
We have the comment line?
unidentified
Y'all doing a great...
jeff davies
Yeah, I know that.
unidentified
Okay, let me just wrap it up.
jeff davies
Yeah, we need to wrap it up.
Shelly Williams, appreciate you coming on.
I'm going to go ahead and give you, well, you've only got about 30 seconds for both of you.
We are scheduled for your program.
alex jones
Yeah, this Wednesday.
jeff davies
Is that 10 or 16?
10. Okay, 10. Same channel, folks.
Alex Jones, 30 seconds, bro.
alex jones
Folks, I didn't get involved with this for, you know, I mean, I'm living a pretty good life.
I'm pretty happy.
I'm tired of the lies in media, and I found out, man, the biggest industry in this world now is just fleecing America.
These bankers have got it set, and they're screwing it.
It's real.
See you.
jeff davies
Shelley?
unidentified
Well, next time, yeah, I agree.
The bankers and the new world order has got to stop.
We've only got about three years left before they take over.
alex jones
It's now called Globalist, folks.
This is real stuff.
This isn't a joke.
I saw the CFR, Council on Foreign Relations, which most people...
You say to somebody, they say, that doesn't exist.
Kooks make that up.
What do you mean?
I saw a meeting on C-SPAN with our head UN envoy, Madeleine Albright, on there.
I mean, it's real, folks.
I mean, I saw Chairman of the World Bank, Mr. Wolfston.
On C-SPAN, talking about how this year they're going to write stronger world government powers.
I mean, it's a bunch of old degenerate money.
And I don't mean somebody who's worth $100,000 down the street from you who drives a nice car.
That person's not a problem, folks.
They can soon live their lives.
jeff davies
I have a feeling, Alex, that history will show that kook will replace the term heretic.
alex jones
Exactly.
unidentified
Kook will return the...
alex jones
Yeah, we're heretics.
jeff davies
Take care, brother.
unidentified
Take care, brother.
jeff davies
You're right.
alex jones
This Wednesday, folks.
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