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| Hello everyone, Poker and Politics here. | |
| Today I'm going to be talking about what Twitter actually needs to do to crush QAnon, what our media needs to be saying about QAnon, and also I was watching the whole Barr hearing and it made me think about one of Q's big topics was always optics, and I've brought this up before. | |
| When Barr said that, well, I'm not going to commit to Durham not doing nothing before the election, that really struck me as being funny because Q has always talked about optics. | |
| How important it is to have good optics in order to square this whole thing away and make sure that the American people are totally cool with what has happened with Hillary and Obama and everybody else getting arrested and sentenced to be killed in Guantanamo Bay. | |
| And the thing about this is that Obviously, there's a part of the Trump administration that believes that if Barr arrests the guy that falsified the Carter Page FISA warrant evidence, and then after arresting him, then they start making noises and mutterings about, oh, there was a lot of things in this Durham investigation. | |
| We're gonna have to go over it all. | |
| I don't know about Comey. | |
| I don't know about Strzok and Page. | |
| I don't know. | |
| This could go to Obama. | |
| They want to generate a lot of smoke with not a lot of fire. | |
| They're going to indict some nobody, if even they do that, but they want to generate this cloud of controversy over the Democrats in the closing weeks of the campaign. | |
| The whole thing about this is that this isn't 2016 because James Comey had the presentation of being an honest broker. | |
| James Comey had The look of a man who was fair and impartial and he was only reopening the investigation of the Hillary's emails because he had to and because he was a man of the law and all that good stuff. | |
| He truly believed in what he was doing and he was doing what he thought was right, what was by the book and what was fair. | |
| Whereas anyone who is going to see Durham indicting somebody and Barr grumble mumbling about the criminality of the Obama administration, they're going to think it was a political hit job. | |
| They're going to think this was done to get Trump re-elected. | |
| The optics of it will not be great. | |
| I mean, Lord knows what the media is going to do about it because they are feckless and worthless, but I just don't think that this is going to have the oomph that they dreamed it would beforehand. | |
| Because there is no honest actor in the Trump administration. | |
| There is no person that America looks at and goes, oh yeah, that guy's on the up and up. | |
| That guy's legitimate. | |
| Any independent or liberal person is going to see what's happening here and go, yeah, that's a load of crap. | |
| Fuck that. | |
| And the Fox News people are going to be like, the storm! | |
| Yes! | |
| And unfortunately for them, really motivated QAnon votes do not count more than other votes. | |
| So it is really, really funny that we have had a movement that has literally said they can't arrest Hillary or Obama or anyone due to the optics of it all. | |
| Now in the closing moments of this campaign it is very likely they're about to do something that they think is great but it's going to play terribly in the optics department. | |
| So the lack of self-awareness about that is just really delicious to me. | |
| It's really incredible how just totally naive and inept they are. | |
| Second of all, what's Twitter supposed to do about QAnon? | |
| They're doing so little, it's not even funny. | |
| The promised massive strike upon QAnon. | |
| This was next week, because when they knocked out a few accounts last week, everyone was like, oh well, what's happening? | |
| They're really not doing anything. | |
| And people were like, oh well, they said it was going to roll out next week. | |
| And here we are. | |
| And what's happened? | |
| ET got knocked offline, got a burner, was right back on. | |
| Joe M. got knocked offline, grabbed a burner, right back on. | |
| I don't know what Patriot Soapbox is doing right now. | |
| I'm sure they'll find something. | |
| Tommy G. got knocked offline, is on a burner, bandidating, he's right back on. | |
| This is what these people do. | |
| And it's really ridiculous that they're getting away with it. | |
| And also, but more importantly, they have these follow-back networks, they have these groups that broadcast out to everybody that this is the guy who just got banned, get him back his audience, build his community back up, hey everybody! | |
| Twitter needs to slap the wrist of the people that are part of the follow-back trains. | |
| Three-day ban the first time you do this for someone, where you promote them when they are ban evading and you know they're ban evading. | |
| Week-long ban the second time you do it, your account suspended for forever the third time you do it. | |
| And the thing is, is these people are addicts. | |
| So the first time you start three-day banning people for signal boosting ban evaders, You are going to actually do damage. | |
| You're actually going to make them stop. | |
| Because they need their Twitter, they need their audience, they need their fans. | |
| They're not going to take a three-day ban lightly, and they're definitely not going to take the idea of getting suspended for a week, and then getting their account pulled in the next strike. | |
| They're going to be like, look Joem, look ET, want to help but can't help, sorry, gotta step away, you're on your own. | |
| And this will further show the lack of honor amongst thieves when it comes to these people. | |
| Because it's going to kind of cut off that whole where we go when we go off thing. | |
| They can't all be offline and then come back and try to re-boost each other. | |
| What Twitter is doing right now is this unbelievably ineffective thing where you're in a video game where a teammate can see you if you've been shot a few times and they run over and they use the medical heal button or whatever. | |
| They're just letting us run over and revive fallen comrades over and over and over again. | |
| It makes it so that what they are doing is less than lip service. | |
| They're just making these banned accounts make burners and then just get right back up and running. | |
| No muss, no fuss. | |
| It's completely useless and it's completely ineffective and it needs to be addressed. | |
| It needs to be changed. | |
| They need to be far more aggressive about banning these burners. | |
| And on top of that, they need to be incredibly more aggressive at punishing the people that repopulate the follower accounts of these burners. | |
| It needs to be part of Terms of Service, and if it's not, it needs to be put there now that you are not allowed to help people who have violated Terms of Service engage in these practices that ban evasion and then encouraging ban evasion accounts to be grown and to have bigger audiences unacceptable so I need to see some teeth need to see some bite in QAnon's in the QAnon attack by Twitter because right now this is incredibly underwhelming it's depressing in a lot of ways also | |
| The media, there's been a bunch of articles coming out about QAnon recently, which is good. | |
| I'm a fan of that. | |
| But the problem is that they are attacking this on one level and talking about, oh it's a bunch of misinformation, it's all lies, blah blah blah, that's great, it's all true, do that. | |
| Jim Watkins is not eating nearly enough shit in these articles. | |
| The mainstream press needs to promote this man and get his name into the public's eye. | |
| He needs to become the face of QAnon because he is the one allowing Q to post. | |
| He is the one that is running the website that Q uses to make the Q drops. | |
| The oracle that is saving our world posts exclusively on this dude's website And he's hardly ever brought up. | |
| We hear the whole right-wing movement. | |
| We hear the fealty to Trump. | |
| We hear the talk about the fictional Deep State. | |
| We might even hear about Adrenochrome. | |
| We might hear about JFK Jr. | |
| All of this stuff. | |
| No. | |
| The lynchpin, the key to it all, is Jim Watkins. | |
| And if Jim Watkins can be pressured into shutting down 8-kun, Q is gone. | |
| Now Q-Anon will live. | |
| Q-Anon does not need Q to post crap. | |
| But that would be the single clearest, easiest thing that can be done to damage the movement on some level. | |
| The whole point of the movement is that Q is the super secret spy who has Trump's ear, he has the power, and this is a very obvious way to show that he is in fact powerless, that he is just some guy shitposting on a message board. | |
| Chan, that is nothing but apologetics for Nazis and fans of lolliporn. | |
| Taking Q offline via deplatforming sends that message. | |
| Now QAnon is never going to back down. | |
| They'll just say, oh Q said he only needed to say. | |
| Q allowed this to happen because he didn't have to tell us anymore. | |
| We already have the message. | |
| We already know the the order. | |
| We already know what to look for for when the swarm arrives. | |
| They'll sell it. | |
| They'll sell it, but it will prevent new people learning about Q from finding new Qdrops or hearing new words of wisdom from Q. It will prevent the gross Practice of trying to get yourself cued on the internet by people reciting oaths to Q or posting all kinds of stuff about the news or whatever. | |
| Just hoping and praying that Q will find them and give them a little brofist. | |
| Boom! | |
| Just cue the big guy in this car letting you know he loves you and all that kind of stuff. | |
| Jim Watkins needs to be front and center of all of this. | |
| He needs to be the face of the movement because he is the most important person in the movement that we know of publicly. | |
| Praying Medic, Joe M, all the rest of these guys, they're just ancillary. | |
| They are just part of the propaganda mill that occurs after Q is allowed to post. | |
| So you take Jim, you pressure Jim, you make this untenable for him, and it changes the dynamic of the whole structure. | |
| It fixes things on some level. | |
| And it'd be nice, it'd be really nice to have Like the King Grifter of this all because the queue is just a way to drive traffic to Aitkun so that people can look at the crappy ads that Jim pays for, pays himself for via the money he has stolen from people that give money to his political action campaign because he is just running scams. | |
| Scams, scams, scams, scams, scams. | |
| Bring that up! | |
| Bring up the fact that Jim Watkins literally started a QPAC and all he does with that QPAC is take people's money and then pay himself to run ads for his PAC on his own website. | |
| Writing stories about how he's grifting his donors. | |
| How everything he's doing is a grift. | |
| How he is a really dishonest and bad person. | |
| So go at Jim Watkins hard. | |
| Hit him. | |
| Hit him with all you got. | |
| Dig up all the information you can on him. | |
| Because that is our way forward on this whole ordeal. | |
| Because all these other dirtbags, they don't care. | |
| You're never going to be able to shame Prang Medic or Joe M. Nor will they ever have any shame. | |
| But it's possible that something could happen where somewhere along the line someone says, someone's finally says, you know what? | |
| We can't let him get away with this anymore. | |
| We can't let him do it anymore. | |
| Maybe their DDoS protection service will leave them again or whatever. | |
| So Jim has to feel the heat. | |
| And he's not filming, he's just posting his wacky videos and tweeting and just living his life. | |
| This is like The Wizard of Oz where you pull back the curtain and see the man and then the man just pulls the curtain back, covers himself up and starts talking through the giant floating head in the middle of the room and everyone's like, oh look at the giant floating head, that's totally real, that's totally legitimate. | |
| And it's like, no! | |
| That man behind the curtain! | |
| You just saw him! | |
| Oh my god! | |
| It's... it's obvious! | |
| Just... just... just talk to him! | |
| Just yell at the dude! | |
| Tell him to shut up! | |
| Tell him to let Dorothy go back home! | |
| So yeah, it's kind of frustrating. | |
| I mean, it's good that the media is bringing up Q and all the attention that Q needs to get, because the more attention the better, but... | |
| The intention can be focused on better pressure points. | |
| It can be focused on more targets. | |
| Marjorie Taylor Greene's another target. | |
| She needs to be just hammered for her support of QAnon. | |
| I say that's both because I do not want to cue Congressperson and also because Kevin VanOstal is the nicest guy in the world. | |
| I talk to him on Twitter all the time and God, there is no Better man on this earth than this dude. | |
| He is such a true guy. | |
| He talks about Marjorie and her opponent in the runoff and he just tells me, he's like, you know, whichever one of them wins, neither one of them is going to do anything for our district. | |
| And I can tell that he's running because he wants to do good by the district. | |
| And it bums him out that these people don't care. | |
| They just want to be in Congress. | |
| They want to go on Fox. | |
| They just want to talk and make people listen to them because they have an office. | |
| They have a public office. | |
| They have some level of power. | |
| And it's like, damn it. | |
| It's like, ugh. | |
| So, uh, yeah. | |
| After she wins her runoff, because I don't think Kevin can beat the other guy because the other guy is just going to be a boring Republican nut in a safe Republican district. | |
| But if we get Q Lady in the general election, the door is open. | |
| And I hope we can kick it open. | |
| I hope we can kick it open and run through it. | |
| The idea of a decent person versus a QAnon dirtbag for a congressperson, not very hard there. | |
| I'm going to go with the decent person. | |
| So yeah, please by all means. | |
| Bring up the grift. | |
| Bring up Praying Medic's $120 faith healing class. | |
| Bring up Jordan Saver's $30 cans of coffee. | |
| Bring up the money these people are making. | |
| Bring up what dirtbags they are and how they're profiting off of this. | |
| Just go hard at the fact that they are scamming people. | |
| Because there are people out there who might think that Hillary eating babies is a real thing, but what they will think is bad is the books, the snake oil, the con, the obvious self-enrichment at the expense of the movement. | |
| That's where you can hit them and make them lose their credibility. | |
| So go at them on that front, please. | |
| So I've kind of blown through my talking points. | |
| Let's see what my questions are this fine Tuesday night into Wednesday morning. | |
| And we will start with Sheila in southeast Michigan. | |
| Blue wave SOS American flag. | |
| I am going to ask two questions. | |
| Well, you are allowed to do that. | |
| What is currently the most effective way to report tweets and profiles? | |
| Are some hashtags useful? | |
| Uh, Generally, reporting a tweet is, or an account, you just fill out what the problem is. | |
| But if you're doing ban evasion, you want to click on the report, tweet, or their account, and then you want to say that they are impersonating somebody. | |
| And then after you say they're impersonating somebody, You type in that they are banevating. | |
| And if you know the previous handle of the account, type in the at their previous handles. | |
| So like for Joanne, you would type in at sheep no more. | |
| I don't think hashtags really work on that front. | |
| I mean maybe if you're trying to just draw attention to your tweets about these people, | |
| that could be useful, but when you're filing a report, just go about it that way. | |
| I take pictures says, what do I post on Facebook account that just said Pizzagate is real? | |
| No! | |
| You say no, Pizzagate is not real! | |
| And then you tell them to direct message you or Facebook message you and try to get them to understand why they are wrong. | |
| They will probably not be agreeable to facts and logic so you're gonna have to just have a chat. | |
| Just talk to them. | |
| See where their head is at. | |
| Why they think the way they do. | |
| Because that's the most important thing. | |
| Why do they think it's real? | |
| Just ask them that question. | |
| And then roll from there. | |
| Roll from there to see if there's any wiggle room. | |
| If there's any way you can try to sow a little doubt in their mind. | |
| Or if they're just minds made up. | |
| Pizzagate's real. | |
| These monsters are doing terrible things to children. | |
| And we gotta save the children. | |
| And blah blah blah. | |
| So, that's your question, that's your mission for the day, as it were. | |
| So, gotta do that. | |
| But, it sucks. | |
| It really sucks when you have people that you know falling into this shit. | |
| Now, it's possible you can talk them out, because they might just be like, whoa, what's going on here? | |
| Like my friend with the Wayfair. | |
| but if they're saying pizza gates are real then yeah things are not great. | |
| um catastrophe culture says do you broadcast live | |
| No, I record. | |
| I might do a stream one of these days on Twitter, or I might do a Twitch stream if I can figure out how to record different things, but I'll work it out. | |
| I'll try to talk to you guys live one of these days. | |
| Jeffrey Beard says, I'm interested in reliable sources for debunking articles. | |
| I see people in my replies who aren't fully pilled but who don't respond well to a tweet correcting them. | |
| The best? | |
| It's really aggravating because Snopes is really good about this but again the people that run this stuff they'll tell people not to trust Snopes so really I would just Go through like the mainstream media, find their claim, see who... because most newspapers run some kind of fact check. | |
| Most websites that are reputable will run some kind of fact check. | |
| You obviously have Snopes. | |
| What I would say is the best thing to do is to find a mainstream credible source that does do the debunking and then add it to your tweet. | |
| Give yourself a little more gravitas that way and then you can just Again, have a discussion, because when you're arguing the point of the fact, it's really hard to get a person to change their mind on that issue. | |
| It's really hard. | |
| You might work, you might not, but it's better to just talk to them person to person, and just see where they're at, see what they're doing mentally, why they've gotten into this thing, and then there. Then you can bring up Wyatt's crap. | |
| Thick ass and on eyeball emoji peach emoji will you address Minerva versus | |
| Moloch I will die on this hill hypnotic owl gif. Yeah I will address this | |
| because basically Moloch's symbol is the is a bull. | |
| It's a humanoid bull and it's always been that. | |
| And it got transformed to the owl because of Bohemian Grove and the giant owl statue that they have. | |
| And because Alex Jones is a dum-dum, he wanted to let everybody know that they worship Moloch at Bohemian Grove. | |
| And they don't. | |
| They worship the giant owl thing, which, again, is a symbol for Minerva. | |
| So, the owl nonsense and the bird nonsense for Moloch is wrong. | |
| The whole, there are birds on Epstein Island! | |
| Yeah, so what? | |
| They're still not Moloch. | |
| Whatever symbolism you think exists, it's not what you think it really is. | |
| A noise in WillTibRoseEmoji says, Can I get an in-depth analysis of these screenshots? | |
| I've already talked to him about these screenshots. | |
| I didn't know this was an actual question for the show. | |
| So it's Pizzagate stuff. | |
| These are Podesta emails he wants to know the truth about. | |
| And I'll let him have the floor for the final question, because I have not gotten one of these questions in a while, which is kind of a challenging question. | |
| An adversarial question, as it were. | |
| Why do you support banning and censoring Q so much? | |
| If no one paid attention to them, then why do they have no traction? | |
| But clearly some people do, and it's their right to want to engage with Q and ask questions if they'd like. | |
| I thought you'd at least maybe agree with open discussion. | |
| I do not agree with open discussion of QAnon because everyone involved in QAnon is a bad faith actor. | |
| They are not doing this out of a benevolent search for the truth. | |
| They are doing this to manipulate and control people. | |
| Jordan Sather is not trying to get you to buy into Q because he wants to take down the Deep State. | |
| He wants you to do it so he can sell you shit. | |
| Praying Medic is doing the exact same thing. | |
| Joem wants you to buy into this crap so you will click on his videos and he will get more gravitas, more traction in the community as being a QAnon thought leader so he can go back to what he really wants to do which is bridging for a white ethnostate. | |
| These people get a kick out of this stuff. | |
| Be it actually monetizing their accounts or just having popularity and getting a dopamine hit off of each like and retweet they get from their fans. | |
| This is how they operate. | |
| It is very dishonest. | |
| They're not seeking the truth. | |
| If they believe that they are looking for the truth and they are actually deluded, they are being manipulated by other people who have driven them to this point and now they are just a victim that is self-perpetuating the cycle of conspiracy theory bullshit. | |
| I support banning censoring, Q, for a simple reason. | |
| It is going to lead to violence. | |
| It is inevitable that this will happen. | |
| I've said this a million times and everyone who has listened to me talk about this before, they can just roll their eyes at me and that's fine. | |
| This is not benevolent. | |
| This is not a movement dedicated to the truth. | |
| This is a movement that is about demonizing and hating other people. | |
| It is about making all of Donald Trump's enemies baby-eating Satanists who are monsters and want to destroy America and bring about a socialist dystopian hell world. | |
| This is how they operate. | |
| They are scum. | |
| They are just plain scum and there's nothing good or noble about their intentions. | |
| So I want them off social media as much as humanly possible because there is no honest discussion about what they're doing. | |
| They're not trying to drive people towards the truth. | |
| They're not trying to engage anybody on a honest level. | |
| They're just lying. | |
| And they know they're lying. | |
| Most of them. | |
| So, I don't have any desire to see platforms like Twitter and Facebook and TikTok and so on and so forth be used just for misinformation and disinformation campaigns. | |
| There's no need for it. | |
| So, get rid of it and let polite society have back their social media. | |
| That would be nice. | |
| In the business of the podcast news, as it were, I had a few more people on Patreon, but I have not gotten them to tell me what their shout-out names should be. | |
| So we'll keep that in the chamber for next time, as it were. | |
| I'm sorry I blew through everything so much this tonight, giving you guys only a half hour, and that's because I'm padding the runtime right now to get there. | |
| But this is the Tuesday podcast. | |
| That's what's happened. | |
| I'm sure we'll have just more terrible awfulness Coming up in the next few days and weeks as it were. | |
| I did not get to Demon Sperm Lady because that was just weird shit and was not even really cute. | |
| It was just kind of insanity. | |
| But I'll be back. | |
| Hopefully I'll have more to talk about Thursday night. | |
| Have a good one y'all. |