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| Hello, everyone. | |
| Poker and Politics here. | |
| Today we're going to be talking about Wayfair, the Hellworld. | |
| Also, Donald Trump bends the knee and gives in to the global satanic pedivore ring and puts on a mask. | |
| I gotta start off with May Wayfair because it is the big story and it's almost like hilarious that it isn't a big story at this moment because it came out like gangbusters a couple days ago and now it's fading away. | |
| It just goes to show you how rapidly moving the QAnon news cycle is that this almost feels like in a way dated if I had done this a couple days ago it would have been like hot hot hot off the press but the whole Wayfair story was they attempted to start this story up about a month ago the amazing Polly one of the QAnon's mid-level grifters | |
| I tried to get this rolling and then a post on Reddit, our conspiracy board, got it moving and everyone started freaking out and the gist of it is is that there are these dumb overpriced items on all these e-commerce sites. | |
| Wayfair, Amazon, eBay, I mean anything. | |
| All these sites have these things where there's a cabinet for $10,000 or there's a throw pillow for $10,000 and this is either someone putting it into the site wrong or some sort of like stocking algorithm where you sell X number of products at this price and then you move the price up as you run lower on stock and Eventually you get to a weird spot where you're charging way too much money for a throw pillow or whatnot, will you? | |
| But the gist of it is is that every company has these sorts of products on their sites. | |
| This is not a Wayfair exclusive dumb problem. | |
| It is something that happens everywhere. | |
| And the fact that QAnon freaked out about this and then of course what they do is They tie it to human trafficking because they always do. | |
| I saw people saying like couldn't they just be money laundering? | |
| Couldn't this just be an obvious like grift where a criminal enterprise buys this item for the money and then you Transfer the money to Wayfair and then the Wayfair mule then gives the clean money back to the person who bought it with a cut. | |
| I mean that would be like generic money laundering 101 kind of stuff. | |
| It would make sense. | |
| So why does it have to be human trafficking? | |
| And then came the whole thing about the furniture has names and the names match this list. | |
| The list of missing children is like 46,000 names wide and they have to make new names because they don't want these items to compete with each other with the same name. | |
| You can't name a cabinet and a lamp Deborah. | |
| You have to have a massive naming list. | |
| in order to make sure that every item that is going to get a name gets a different unique name for that item so the people who are running the site for the item know what to call it. | |
| It's not that shocking. | |
| And then of course what happened was is two of the girls who have allegedly been kidnapped posted on social media that they have not been kidnapped. | |
| So what did QAnon and all these other nuts do? | |
| Said they were still kidnapped. | |
| Like that's this is the thing is that you can never provide enough information to make these people back down. | |
| They will never give up. | |
| They will never concede. | |
| They will never admit they were wrong. | |
| These girls could literally strap a GoPro to their shoulder and go through a day in their life swapping batteries in and out to get the full 24 hour cycle and these dirt bags Would still claim it was fake. | |
| They could hang out with their family. | |
| They could go for a bike ride. | |
| They could go to the store. | |
| They could do anything to show that they're a free person in America. | |
| And they wouldn't believe you. | |
| They wouldn't believe it. | |
| They would be looking through the footage of the girl at the 7-Eleven in order to find proof. | |
| They don't have that variety of Doritos in Washington, D.C. | |
| This has obviously been filmed in California. | |
| Nice try, Cabal. | |
| I mean, that's how they operate. | |
| They operate on a deeply ridiculous nitpicky every rock-solid piece of proof that you give that would placate 99% of humans will not placate them and they will dig to discredit that piece of evidence and then just keep the ball rolling and they will never stop they will just keep pushing forward in perpetuity because the narrative is what matters and the truth can go fuck itself that's how these people operate and it's depressing to deal with | |
| And beyond that, this beyond like the nightmare of the whole Wayfair thing, just thank God for good researchers. | |
| Thank God for people who know what they're talking about, know what they're doing, and actually look into this stuff and Provide the debunking materials needed to get rid of the lies that are being propagated. | |
| And chief among these people is feminist propaganda and Marc Andre Argentino. | |
| Dappergander is just really incredible and Marc's really incredible. | |
| They do such good work. | |
| Everyone should follow both of them. | |
| If you don't, you are doing yourself an incredible disservice. | |
| Ben Collins added on to Dapper Gander's work and also signal boosted Dapper Gander and that's something that needs to happen just all the time, always. | |
| I spend my days with crippling imposter syndrome because I read one of these really insightful, informative threads from Dapper or Mark where they really explain things in this incredibly cogent, knowledgeable, smart way. | |
| And I spend my days being like, look at Major Patriot! | |
| He's a fucking moron! | |
| It just feels different. | |
| It just feels like I'm just picking the low-hanging fruit and they're putting in the work to really dig through the garden and plant these crops. | |
| And they're just great. | |
| Being able to read what they said, it's important. | |
| And the thing is, is that I brought this up. | |
| I had a friend of mine, I had one of my normie friends message me about this shit. | |
| And what's funny is, is that some people replied to that and were just like, oh my God, how could she fall for this? | |
| Oh Lord. | |
| I mean, look at X, Y, and Z. Look at this, look at this. | |
| I mean, and the thing is, is that you are looking at this Logically, detached, intelligently. | |
| You are looking at what was being said about Wayfair in a way that it was very easy for you to just roll your eyes at it. | |
| But the thing about normies, or at least my friend, and the thing is most of the people that fall for this bullshit, the big thing is they don't know they're being lied to. | |
| They don't know that the argument is always in bad faith by the person talking about the conspiracy. | |
| And that is such an important thing to understand. | |
| It is such an important thing to learn about conspiracy theorists, about people who plot this shit out, about people who try to manipulate you to see things the way they want you to see them. | |
| Is that they are doing this malevolently. | |
| They are doing this with ill intent. | |
| And when you are, uh, when you are a, when you are Jane Q. Blue Pill, when you are just someone just going along and getting along and you're on the internet a little bit to look at cat photos and roll your eyes at your crazy racist grandma. | |
| Like, you see something about, wait, they're a sex trafficking ring! | |
| The shocking truth! | |
| And you might think to yourself, well, I don't know if I believe that, or I don't know if I'm buying that, or that sounds far-fetched. | |
| The one thing you're not doing is thinking that, oh my god, the person telling me this is full of shit. | |
| Oh my god, the person telling me this is fucking lying to me. | |
| And they're lying to me intentionally and maliciously. | |
| They're not doing this out of mistaken information. | |
| They were hoodwinked themselves by bad information. | |
| No, they are doing this because they're a piece of shit. | |
| They're a piece of shit that is trying To warp me to their worldview and manipulate me into joining their horrible crusade. | |
| And that's what they're doing. | |
| That's what this asshole is doing to you. | |
| They are attacking your mind to bypass the logic and reason sectors of your brain and they want to get direct into the emotional parts of your brain. | |
| They want to hit you in your feelings and they want you to feel anger and fear and disgust. | |
| They want to appall and offend and sicken you. | |
| This is why they bring up Epstein. | |
| This is why they try to link in all the bad things that have happened that they know can create a feeling of disgust and make you not want to think about this rationally because they just want you angry. | |
| They want you angry and buying in because The rage bypasses the logic and then once their bad information gets into your brain it's really hard to get it out. | |
| Now they've got you. | |
| They've got a hook in you. | |
| And I mean when I had this conversation with my friend she was she was fighting me and that was really frustrating because She knows me. | |
| She knows that this is the muck and the swamp and the slime that I live in and that I'm constantly fighting with these assholes all the time. | |
| But her brain was just so tilted by the shit that she'd been pumped full of that you should be like but this girl had a ridiculously different name this name is so unique there's no way it could be a coincidence and i had to walk her through it i had to show her that this these names were not that unique that they weren't that different that they weren't that strange and i had to walk her through all this stuff and it it took | |
| It was like a 10-15 minute text conversation. | |
| We were going back and forth and she just kept probing and pushing me and poking me and just trying to... She was trying to make it work. | |
| She was trying to red pill herself. | |
| She was trying to believe. | |
| And afterwards, afterwards she was saying like, Oh, I'm like, I'm like laughing at myself. | |
| Me and my partner, we're holding our baby. | |
| We're just talking about this and how I'm like easy cult material. | |
| And thanks for getting me off the ledge here. | |
| I mean, but it just, it just got to me. | |
| It just, it just, the, the, the kids and Epstein and it just, it just, it just did something to me. | |
| And that's the point, that's the goal of the people peddling this shit, is to just get you in a mindset where you are receptive to something bad is happening. | |
| And once they can get you receptive to the idea that there is a bad thing happening, they know that it will take a lot of work for the logic to reverse your train of thought. | |
| It'll take so much work to get people to say, oh, I shouldn't have believed that because now you have the shame of being wrong. | |
| Now you have the shame of being embarrassed. | |
| Now you have the shame of being conned. | |
| And a lot of times when that happens, you're just going to double down and not admit you were conned. | |
| You will not admit that it's bullshit. | |
| You're going to say, fuck this. | |
| I'm right. | |
| I'm right. | |
| You're going to stamp your little feet and throw a fit. | |
| And that's just, Aggravating. | |
| It's just frustrating that that's the way people operate and that the world would be a lot better place if people had the ability to swallow their pride and admit that they made a mistake and that they fucked up. | |
| But again this kind of action, this way of manipulating people is entirely predicated upon emotional responses and entirely predicated upon making people do bad things. | |
| In a stupidly ill-informed way. | |
| So, the Wayfair thing was one of those things that was big enough that I had to deal with it in my actual life. | |
| And that was frustrating. | |
| So to those who spawned this bullshit, Go fuck yourselves and it's just really annoying. | |
| Annoying that we have these mountains of bullshit that we have to beat back all the time. | |
| Just constantly pushing back against it. | |
| But it's all you can do. | |
| We always say it. | |
| Just gotta push that rock up the hill. | |
| It's all you can do. | |
| So that was the Wayfarer segment of our show. | |
| The good news is we have something to laugh about and that is Donald Trump bent the knee and put on a mask at Walter Reed Hospital while he was visiting the troops who may or may not have been targeted for murders by Vladimir Putin's funded Taliban. | |
| And that was news. | |
| And the funny thing is that QAnon has been largely silent on this because they really don't have a good answer for what happened. | |
| Martin Geddes tried to come up with some 11 dimensional underwater quidditch about Trump suckering the deep state into a trap and then one of his reply guys came back and said that no the trap was that If Trump didn't wear a mask they were gonna pump the hospital full of COVID and kill everybody. | |
| And that by wearing the mask Trump defeated their plan. | |
| Which makes no sense because Trump has never tested positive for COVID. | |
| So how could they blame Trump for giving people COVID when he doesn't have it himself? | |
| It doesn't make a lot of sense. | |
| So... | |
| That doesn't work, and I don't know what trap Trump could possibly be luring people into with this. | |
| But Martin's just grasping at straws. | |
| Then Joe M took a bite of the apple and said that Trump was doing it out of respect for the troops. | |
| That he was just doing this because that's what you do when you're in a hospital and you're visiting our soldiers who are fighting for our freedom and all that kind of stuff. | |
| That you don the mask to just let them know that you care for their health and their safety. | |
| And a bunch of his replies were affirmative to this. | |
| And a bunch of them were adamant that this was the only place you would ever wear a mask under any circumstances. | |
| And you can feel the ground shifting under their feet. | |
| Because these people apparently didn't see the baby gets some candy, baby gets a treat bullshit that happened after Trump put on his mask at Walter Reed. | |
| All these big blue check marks on Twitter were like, oh, look at Trump wearing a mask, looking sharp. | |
| Biden's going down now. | |
| He's got no fucking shot now that we got masked up Trump. | |
| The massive shift in the polls now that Donald Trump has belatedly donned a mask. | |
| I mean, but again, everyone, you can just tell that like everyone was looking at this and they said we've got to give the whiny piss baby his fucking belly rub so that he'll keep wearing the goddamn mask. | |
| So people can't use him not wearing a mask as a talking point against us in this campaign. | |
| Yeah, they're going to ding us for being a day late and a dollar short on it, but Better to do this now than to just friggin' go maskless the whole campaign and just letting them hammer us with this talking point. | |
| Letting them throw it in our faces that we're not taking coronavirus seriously and that we're not handling this appropriately. | |
| Donald Trump Jr. | |
| retweeted one of the sycophantic blue check mark Dick Suckery tweets and that to me was just a giant red flag that everyone is all in on getting Papa to wear the mask more often. | |
| Because if Don Jr. | |
| is coming in hot on Then you know that this is not just a... this was not uncoordinated. | |
| That this was not something that was spontaneous where everyone was just like, oh look, the president's wearing a mask! | |
| Let's give him a high five! | |
| Let's give him a brofist for masking up! | |
| Because, again, he drank water with one hand and was showed that he might be able to handle a ramp, maybe, if he's in a good state of mind. | |
| And this is a guy who really needs to be validated whenever he does any little thing that he thinks might be questionable. | |
| So operation mask, mask, mask. | |
| Good, good, good. | |
| They were losing it. | |
| They were all over it. | |
| So we have a moment here where Trump is now, I don't know how much more, like, what kind of | |
| public events he's going to be involved in outside of the White House. I mean, inside the White House | |
| he probably won't wear a mask because that's like kind of his residence and all. But the next time | |
| Trump goes out of state, the next time he goes to greet some people at like one of his things where | |
| it's like not a campaign rally but he's just moving around America and giving speeches to | |
| show that he's like doing those kinds of things, it's a bit of a shock. | |
| It's going to be really interesting if he wears a mask. | |
| And when he wears a mask, what is QAnon going to say then? | |
| Because again, their whole defense of this thing was that he only wore it because he was around the troops in a hospital. | |
| And we'll give them a mulligan. | |
| It was just so obvious from the way that the Trump campaign and the media... Brad Parscale gave him the back pat. | |
| The guy who runs his campaign was like, hey, looking sharp POTUS, way to go! | |
| And the Don Jr. | |
| retweet, I mean, it's just... | |
| So obvious what they're doing and QAnon just drives their heads into the sand. | |
| Just the aggressive, willful ignorance. | |
| Just the world's greatest researchers. | |
| None of them brought it up. | |
| None of them wanted to look at it because again to look at these things is to have to acknowledge the reality The next time you see Donald Trump in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania or wherever the fuck it is he's gonna wander off to to give a speech about whatever it is he's gonna talk about in an effort to try to not get the doors blown the fuck off him in this election he's probably gonna be wearing a mask before he goes to the podium then he's gonna take the mask off give the speech and then slap that mask back on | |
| And QAnon is going to have to find rationalizations and justifications for that. | |
| The fact that now Trump is going to be a mask wearer. | |
| He is going to surrender the way they all refuse to surrender because they're just hard-scrabbled, rock-ribbed, true Americans. | |
| And that's why they love POTUS, because he's the exact same way. | |
| So, it's going to be really funny watching that. | |
| And, again, if Trump doesn't wear the mask, I think it's really bad for him. | |
| It's bad for him, like, on a not-being-a-fucking-monster level, but it's also just really bad optics. | |
| It's something that just looks terrible. | |
| The Biden campaign and the Lincoln Project and the Republican voters against Trump and everybody else, they'll be thrilled. | |
| If Trump does not wear the mask the rest of the way, and they get to take all these photographs of him not wearing a mask, they're going to be able to hammer him on it. | |
| And they're going to be able to say that he's not taking this shit seriously, because he refuses to do, like, just the minimal things that you're supposed to do when you're in public. | |
| So it's a lose-lose situation for QAnon because either he loses in the court of public opinion or he alienates them completely by surrendering completely. | |
| So on that front I mean Being a human being with a sense of morality and decency and everything, I want him to wear the mask. | |
| Wear the fucking mask, goddammit! | |
| And the fact that it makes QAnon eat shit is hilarious, but that's like such an unbelievably minute portion of it. | |
| I mean there were all the photos I've seen all the like the Facebook memes and shit of people like uh on Facebook groups screaming I'll never wear a mask mask you're terrible fucking hate them and then you see the Trump wearing the mask at Walter Reed and they're like that mask looks sharp could I get one I mean so If the MAGA Trump-worshipping lunatics who are not full-blown QAnons, they breathe the same air as me, they travel in the same stores as me, we live together, I want them to fucking do the right thing. | |
| I don't want people to do the wrong thing. | |
| The only way we beat this virus is by working together. | |
| Please, can we get everyone pulling the rope in the same direction? | |
| Can we fucking do that? | |
| Have you seen the baseball in Taiwan where they actually have crowds? | |
| Japan had a pro wrestling event and if you've watched pro wrestling in America for the past few months, there are no crowds. | |
| In Japan, they just did a show where they filled a third of the arena with actual people. | |
| They had real fans in the building. | |
| They were socially distanced. | |
| They were all wearing masks. | |
| But it was some semblance of normalcy. | |
| Other nations are winning. | |
| They're beating this thing. | |
| They are moving forward. | |
| And we are driving ourselves into a ditch. | |
| We are just aggressively destroying ourselves and it's like why? | |
| Why are we the only country that can't get this fucking right? | |
| It's not because we're unique in some sort of way. | |
| It's not because we have population density that's unbelievable or anything. | |
| But I mean South Korea is incredibly dense and they got this under control. | |
| I mean a lot of their policies were draconian by our standards and would have resulted in people freaking out. | |
| But they did it and it can be done. | |
| We're seeing it. | |
| So It's really enraging. | |
| I mean, it's really, really frustrating that this is where we are as a country. | |
| That we're the ones who just can't get it right. | |
| We're the ones turning Florida and Texas into just death traps. | |
| And California and Arizona are working hard to join them. | |
| So yeah, it's great. | |
| It's just absolutely great. | |
| TLDR, wear a fucking mask. | |
| It's question time, oh yeah. | |
| It's time for the questions. | |
| A.I.S. | |
| Millard, one of my inquisitors, says, It's said that debunking bullshit is always harder than spreading it. | |
| Given that, what should our response be when conspiracies like this pop up and start infecting outside discourse? | |
| The most important thing is to get good information out quickly and signal boosted as hard as possible. | |
| The problem is, as Mark Twain famously stated, that a lie can travel around the world, I think maybe he said twice, before the truth can even put its shoes on. | |
| And this is the nature of what we're dealing with. | |
| Mark Andre and Dapper Gander would not be able to debunk. | |
| They gotta do work to get the debunk in before they can do it. | |
| So there's that lag time between the bullshit conspiracy theory and why it's bullshit. | |
| Like that lag time will always be there. | |
| It's always going to be difficult to handle that gap. | |
| But the only thing you can do is at the start. | |
| Basically all you can do at the start is when someone proposes a ridiculous thing tell them or just say like look I'm not going to buy into what you're saying for 48 hours because it's probably horseshit and that is probably the best way forward on that front is to tell anyone anything they hear any lunacy any madness any insanity anything that seems too implausible to be true or crazy | |
| Unless they can verify it immediately with reputable sources. | |
| If they're only getting this off the internet from anonymous people or Facebook groups or Twitter or whatnot, will you? | |
| Unless you can verify it with rock-solid actual evidence from real sources, give it 48 hours. | |
| Because if the claim is being made by sources that you don't know and you can't verify, and it's out there and it's spreading like wildfire, the legitimate sources will turn their attention on it and within 48 hours you will get to the truth. | |
| And the other side of that is, beyond trying to institute a 48-hour rule to give some semblance of order and logic to people, Once the debunk has come out, and once you can validate that the debunk is legitimate and honest, and that you can verify it. | |
| Because again, do not take anyone else's word for any of this shit. | |
| As the world's greatest researchers like to say, do your own research. | |
| Make sure that when someone tells you the terrible thing is not true, that they're not lying to you. | |
| But, period. | |
| Once you've seen the debunk and it makes sense and it fits what you believe this world to be, signal boost the shit out of it. | |
| Signal boost it yourself. | |
| Signal boost it to people that have bigger platforms than you. | |
| Like, if Dapper Gander has a debunk for one of these things, I didn't do this this time because I was just on Mars. | |
| I just couldn't fucking handle this shit. | |
| It was so frustrating. | |
| And I just saw the debunking that was going on, and I... Anyone who would talk to me, I would be like, go to Marc Andre, go to Tapper Gander, read them, read them, read them. | |
| People were DMing me constantly, and I was just sending them, like, their... I was sending them their handles. | |
| I was like, go, go, go, just read, read of them, learn, drink from the cup of knowledge and be made whole. | |
| Let it quiet your heart and ease your mind. | |
| Just all of that. | |
| But that's like the really important thing is to signal boost the shit out of it. | |
| Like you retweet it and then you tag Travis View, tag Mike Rothschild, tag Ben Collins, tag Will Sommer, tag me if they're all asleep and I'm the only person around that can handle it. | |
| Tag Sarah. | |
| Tag important people. | |
| Tag the good people of this world. | |
| And just get the information out to the people that need to get the information. | |
| And then let them run with it and signal boost it and make it bigger. | |
| Because that's the only way you can begin to counteract this shit, is to get the actual truth out to people, so that they can see it and hear it, and then they can weigh the two sides. | |
| The one side that is just a ridiculously incendiary lie, and the other side that is facts and reason and evidence. | |
| And again, the incendiary lie is based on attacking people's brains emotionally, and that makes it difficult to defeat it, but hopefully they can. | |
| I don't know that I'm the hero you need, but I may be the hero you deserve. | |
| I would lose my nerd card if I didn't try to make a Dark Knight quote there. | |
| Twitter needed. I don't know that I'm the hero you need but I may be the hero you | |
| deserve. I would lose my nerd card if I didn't try to make a Dark Knight quote | |
| there. Why am I doing this? Well it really just is the fact that I have been | |
| studying the Illuminati New World Order for a long time before this. | |
| I've given this bit of my backstory before, but in high school I was a massive JFK conspiracy theorist. | |
| JFK, RFK, I could talk your ear off about them like you fucking read about. | |
| My knowledge about them makes my QAnon shit fucking just night and day. | |
| Then I was a 9-11 truther for a while. | |
| And then one day I was just talking shit about 9-11 to a friend. | |
| And he told me to fuck off. | |
| And that hit me. | |
| It really hit me in an odd way. | |
| Like, whoa! | |
| I thought everyone knew 9-11 was an inside job. | |
| And when he was like, no, the planes hit the buildings and that was what it was and bin Laden did it and what the fuck are you talking about? | |
| And I went to red pill him by doing research and I blue pilled myself. | |
| I was like, oh fuck, the government story adds up. | |
| Holy shit. | |
| Loose change is fucking propaganda. | |
| It's a fucking hit piece. | |
| It's, again, it's emotion. | |
| It's an appeal to emotion. | |
| It's an attempt to incite. | |
| It's an attempt to enrage. | |
| and that that's what got me out and then once I was no longer like a 9-11 truth or as it were I was just kind of like well let me see what these nut jobs are into now and that's what led me to finding out about the Illuminati New World Order stuff and all the celebrities putting circles around their eyes and bada bada and I was following that stuff and doing that stuff a lot and I would uh Read up, uh, Vigilant Citizens bullshit. | |
| I'd read up all the Super Bowl Halftime Show Illuminati Ritual bullshit. | |
| I followed A Call For An Uprising a lot. | |
| I could have like started a Twitter channel just fucking yelling at Call For An Uprising. | |
| That guy is out of his fucking mind and he cranks out content like you read about. | |
| That is a man. | |
| He makes Praying Medic and Jerome and all these other... He makes Q look like the laziest piece of shit in the world. | |
| That is a man who thinks that saving the world is not a part-time job. | |
| Call For An Uprising. | |
| Fucking had to win it. | |
| But um... I was... | |
| Following all those guys and just listening to them and rolling my eyes at them and looking at what stuff they did and what they were saying and seeing what they were wrong and they were lying and Eventually it got to a point where I was on the blog slash website little green footballs and In the comment section of little green footballs they would have people posting lots of tweets that they had sent out where like Donald Trump would say something, and they would tell Donald Trump to fuck right off, you piece of shit. | |
| And this was kind of a thing where people would promote their tweets on the blog. | |
| And I saw that, and I saw it, and I realized I was kind of living vicariously, I was living on Twitter vicariously through these people. | |
| And I just said to myself, you know, I need to get on Twitter. | |
| I actually need to do this because I've never just gone all in on Twitter. | |
| I've made other accounts before and I've dipped a toe in it but I never just tried to just fully immerse myself into it and actually work at it. | |
| A moment of arrogance with poker and politics. | |
| I've always had friends tell me that I'm a great storyteller and that I'm funny and all this other stuff. | |
| I'm mama's little boy. | |
| I'm such a catch. | |
| I mean just just but I've always had people tell me that like my personality was good and this kind of stuff and that like I should like try and open my night and do stand-up comedy and blah blah blah and I just had it in my head that I was like, you know what? | |
| I'm just going to go balls to the wall on Twitter and just talk and just see if I can actually make an audience happen. | |
| If I can grow an audience and do this. | |
| Just by sheer force of will, just put my head down and just plow through. | |
| And so I started the Poker and Politics account. | |
| Really funny that I actually didn't have a deck of cards in my house. | |
| When I did this account, I had to drive down to the store, grab a deck of cards, grab the Black 4s out of the deck, take a photo of it, and then post that as my avatar. | |
| The Black 4s are a code. | |
| If you decode them, you win absolutely nothing. | |
| Hilariously enough, there was a thread where a QAnon supporter actually decoded my avatar, and an anti-QAnon person yelled at them. | |
| And said that they were wrong and that they were reading too much into things. | |
| And I just shut right up because I was not going to give the QAnon person credit. | |
| But yeah, so I did all that and then I just started plowing ahead and at the start I was talking about poker some and I was talking about conspiracy theories some and I came here to talk about QAnon because it was the new Illuminati New World Order thing. | |
| It was the new hot conspiracy theory. | |
| was this big thing that had all these people involved in it and I knew there | |
| were I knew the gist of it I knew the general concept of what it was about but | |
| even then I had yet to read a Q drop I had yet to actually know where to go to | |
| read drops so I kind of just like landed here looking for a fight with an entity | |
| that I truly didn't know exactly what it was all about. | |
| I just knew that it was... I knew from all the stuff that I had read that it was the Illuminati with Donald Trump as a hero. | |
| And then when I read the Q-Drops and everything that validated what my beliefs were about what QAnon was. | |
| but then um so i was just plugging along um getting no traction just doing my thing and then my big break my moment of glory was when The Huber hearing happened, D5, where it was the big moment when finally Huber was going to testify before Congress and bring down the deep state. | |
| And Q had been hyping the shit out of it. | |
| I mean, Q was just like, this is it. | |
| We're bringing them down. | |
| We're going to win. | |
| Everyone goes to jail forever. | |
| Victory. | |
| I mean this was uh the night before the Hooper hearing was when Q did his ill-fated question and answer session where he declared that the earth was round and that JFK Jr. | |
| was dead and pissed off a lot of his followers because he was just in such high spirits like this this I don't know what the fuck he was actually thinking was going to happen because If you're a rational person, you know that one of these like Senate hearings, it was a House hearing, this House committee hearing, it was going to go over like a wet fart. | |
| I mean, it was not going to be a thing where like Mark Meadows, who was the chairman, because he was the outgoing chairman, the election had already happened and the Republicans had lost, so he was the lame duck chair of the committee. | |
| It wasn't like Hoover was going to come in and tell them about the 50-foot statute of | |
| Moloch at the DNC and that Nancy Pelosi drinks the blood of children and all this stuff and | |
| that they were going to write up the arrest warrants. | |
| I mean, but Q had been hyping this hearing up for so long and this was like the big payoff. | |
| And it just so happened that I was working a shift where I had Thursdays off and the | |
| Hooper hearing was on a Thursday. | |
| So I started live tweeting the Hooper hearing and it was hilarious. | |
| There was no one in the crowd. | |
| The initial testimony was dry as toast and boring. | |
| It was Biceps Guy from Judicial Watch, Tom Fitton. | |
| He and some random dude the Democrats had dragged in to talk about how charities work. | |
| And the two of them just sparred over the Clinton Foundation for 90 minutes. | |
| It was just Tom Fitton doing what Tom Fitton does, where he just talks shit about Hillary and Bill Clinton and how terrible they are. | |
| And the other guy was just like, no, the Clinton Foundation is actually pretty good. | |
| I mean, all the metrics for a charity, yeah, they're high. | |
| They're solid. | |
| And the hearing goes to recess. | |
| And you could just kind of tell that uh and I remember that before they went to recess that Meadows had asked Fitton a really leading question about uh somebody like Rob uh Rod Rosenstein and Bob Mueller and all this kind of stuff and you could just see that like what they had set up this like little bit of Kabuki theater for the cameras and ooh we got one oh yeah that's looking and you could just see Meadows being like man World cruise through the rest of this little committee hearing and I'm gonna be home with a glass full of scotch with like five ice cubes in it just | |
| Tipping one back and watching Fox News, watching Sean Hannity just tear the Clintons a new asshole with my awesome little committee hearing that I had today. | |
| You could just tell they totally had won. | |
| They spiked the football. | |
| It was victory. | |
| And then they come back from the recess and they have these two new witnesses in. | |
| And hilariously, they had had a nameplate for Huber on the table, but then it got taken away because he dipped out at the last second. | |
| He just like, he had to go wash his dog or something. | |
| He was like, I ain't going to this shit. | |
| And the two guys they bring in afterwards they turn out to be these total fucking grifters who just were using this hearing to try to elevate and get publicity for their lawsuit against the Clinton Foundation which was this massive cash grab because they were using Some sort of whistleblower provision in the law where if like you find malfeasance and ill-gotten money from a entity that had done illegal things to get that money and you manage to give the evidence to the authorities and they successfully prosecute these people for the money they've illegitimately gained, you are entitled to between 10 and 30 percent of that money and | |
| Literally, like even on the low end, the low end payout was still somewhere around like hundreds of millions of dollars. | |
| And they even made the statement like the entire 2.4 billion dollars the Clintons got from the Clinton Foundation was illegitimate. | |
| So if you slid the scale all the way up to the maximum, like 30% of 4.2 billion dollars, these guys were looking to get a billion dollar payout at best. | |
| From the stunt they were pulling, which, hey, if you're gonna go, go hard. | |
| If you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly. | |
| So they did this shit and the committee hearing just imploded so brutally because even the Republicans on the committee were like, you guys are just using us to fucking push your lawsuit. | |
| You won't even give us your evidence. | |
| And they're like, no, we won't give you our evidence. | |
| And at one point Mark Meadows was like, why won't you give us your evidence? | |
| And the guy was like, I'm not going to give you our evidence because we don't want our evidence to get out because you won't use that evidence to sue the Clintons and get us stacks of cash. | |
| And Meadows just adjourned the meeting. | |
| Just adjourned the meeting in disgust, and everyone ran away, and the whole thing turfed out so fucking hard, your head would spin, and Q never spoke of it again. | |
| It never happened. | |
| It went right down the memory hole. | |
| And my live tweeting of this train wreck, like, uh, got me from, like, 50 followers to, like, 200-300 followers. | |
| And... | |
| From there people knew that I was a guy that was aggressively going against QAnon and It just kept moving from there and then I think the other thing that really helped was When I did the Q is Always Wrong thread, and I pinned it, that got me a lot of attention. | |
| At one point, our Lord and Savior, Travis View, gave me the Travis View bump. | |
| That really helped me out so much, and I'm forever in his debt for that. | |
| So, that's my story. | |
| That is the origin story of poker and politics, as it were. | |
| And yeah, but I was just always, I just, I was watching this battle from afar and I was like, you know what? | |
| Fuck QAnon. | |
| I've got to get in there and I've got to start throwing some punches at him. | |
| As for why I named myself Poker and Politics instead of something more anti-QAnon-ish, I just liked the name. | |
| And it's what I care about. | |
| I love poker and I love politics. | |
| And I was telling people, like, I was building it up to people who could not have given a fuck less about it. | |
| Because, like, none of my friends use Twitter in any real serious way. | |
| And I was, like, telling people, like, yeah, I'm going to make a Twitter account. | |
| It's going to be called Poker and Politics. | |
| I think it's snazzy. | |
| And they're like, yeah, yeah, sounds great. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh, God. | |
| Can someone just, I don't know, just run me over with a steamroller? | |
| Just crush me right now so this this fucking idiot can stop talking to me about his goddamn fucking Twitter account. | |
| Then he's going to make and give up on in two weeks because he has no follow through. | |
| My friends condemning me hypothetically. | |
| I mean, yeah, but that was that was what my that was me. | |
| That was my whole story That has led you to listening to that cheater chattery in this moment Skeptical Penguin says, do you have any episodes speculating on who is behind Q? | |
| I don't know how many I'd say, but I would say probably somewhere around 30% of my podcast episodes have stated my opinion that Jim Watkins is the current writer of Q. | |
| Much because I am a person who follows the evidence and kind of the mainstream, as I've said, I tend to follow the reporting and the research that has been done that says that this thing kind of began with Tracy Beans, a pamphlet anon, Colman Rogers I believe is his actual name and uh Paul Ferber uh Baruch the Scribe who uh hilariously today decided to just like totally lose his fucking mind and was like screaming about Barack Obama uh being conceived by the merging of two sperm which uh that doesn't actually work but okay Paul you you got it I mean so | |
| But yeah, basically the belief is that we had like Grifter Group 1, which was probably more along the lines of just like LARPers. | |
| Just people that were making this up for the fun things. | |
| And LARPer Group 1 then at some point either lost control of the queue account, or gave control of the Q account up to Grifter Group 1 and from there it all kind of gets murky because I mean people will point out that like the tone in Q changes a lot that will Q will take like a month or a six week vacation and when he comes back he sounds different he's talking about different things old plot lines have been dropped new plot lines are developed | |
| So there's a belief that there's probably been like five different like actual like writers of the Q-drops, but Aitkun Q is so bad at the job. | |
| And the one other thing that's really like obvious and evident about Aitkun Q is that he apologizes. | |
| He makes mistakes and then he asks For forgiveness which old Q never did old Q would just fuck up and just keep plowing on ahead Just just full speed No slow all go that was always his mantra and this new Q screws up the spirit cooking thing apologizes about it screws up the fake screen grab on MSNBC apologizes for it and | |
| Screws up the George Floyd thumbnail on the Obama Foundation's Twitter feed and then argues the point and tries to defend himself when the old Q would never have defended himself. | |
| The old Q is like, hey, I'm giving you guys all the wisdom and genius this world could ever handle. | |
| If you refuse to accept my bold vision as truth, you can fucking piss up a rope. | |
| New Q is just like, hey guys, I'm right and this proves it. | |
| I got some information here. | |
| And it's just, it's mincing. | |
| It's pathetic. | |
| It's weak. | |
| It's timid. | |
| It's just, it's sad. | |
| Current Q is awful and bad at his job. | |
| And Matt, one of my favorite people on Twitter, he says to me, when will you start interacting | |
| more with the idiots? | |
| I need my Glenclary leads. | |
| I don't know why I'm not interacting with more of the idiots. | |
| They come at me. | |
| I mean, but a lot of the idiots don't, they don't punch. | |
| They don't fight a lot. | |
| And I will admit that I've been a little more blocky than I have in the past. | |
| Because the people that get my goat are the QAnon centrists. | |
| They really will always infuriate me because they're lying. | |
| They're just disingenuously lying and they're scummy. | |
| And it's really frustrating. | |
| It's really frustrating when you're arguing with someone and they are aggressively debating you in a bad faith manner where they will not Be willing to be pinned down on anything. | |
| Like, you can be like, do you believe in this? | |
| And they'll be like, well, I don't know about that. | |
| I think it looks promising. | |
| I'm like, do you believe in it? | |
| Yes or no? | |
| And they'll just be like, I'm not sure. | |
| I mean, it looks like it might be, but... And that's how they operate. | |
| They operate under this perpetual cloud of ambiguity where they make sure that you can never Call them out for a stance or a position. | |
| They just want to have perpetual flexibility to deny things or to claim that they don't personally stand for things and that's what a QAnon centrist is all about. | |
| They're all about pretending that Q is about thinking for yourself And fighting corruption and protecting children. | |
| And when you bring up the truth of Q, they'll be like, oh, I don't believe in that. | |
| Oh, I don't accept that. | |
| Adrenochroma! | |
| That's nonsense. | |
| And when you point out like, well, Q believes in this stuff. | |
| Q promotes this stuff. | |
| They'll be like, uh, Q is disinformating that one. | |
| I mean and then they just don't want to they're never going to acknowledge anything that you're saying they're never going to admit the truth they want to stay just they want to stay where they're at because where they're at gives them this veneer it gives them this cover story that they are actually doing a good or noble thing when they know they're not they know they're being a piece of So if I do get more idiots in the future I will be more than happy to engage them and to tag you in the conversation so that the fighting can be brisk and passionate because you're a really great pitbull and I do love reading you shred these people. | |
| So that is ye olde casting of the toads for this evening. | |
| I will catch you all again late Tuesday night, so you'll probably be listening to it Wednesday. |