Art Bell launches Dark Matter, his new SiriusXM show, after years of legal battles—including a 1998 HIV-related assault on his son and false child molestation allegations—while introducing physicist Michio Kaku, who explores quantum entanglement, dark matter’s gravitational dominance, and humanity’s slim odds (50-50) to reach Type 1 civilization amid threats like nuclear warheads (30,000+ Cold War-era stockpiles), gamma-ray bursts (e.g., WR104’s potential Earth sterilization), and Yellowstone’s supervolcano risks. Kaku dismisses memory manipulation fears but warns of unchecked tech exploitation, while Bell ties cosmic events to societal instability, hinting at deeper forces like the "quickening." The episode blends existential science with conspiracy undertones, leaving listeners pondering humanity’s fragility against both natural and man-made disasters. [Automatically generated summary]
Inside the sand, the speed of a touch something inside The sweet of a touch or the sweet of the sun or the strength of a touch of the grass The wind of the flesh to be covered and then to burst back to the sun again Or to fly to the sun without bursting a wing To fly Want
to take a ride from the high desert and the great American Southwest, exclusively on SiriusXM Radio.
There will be listeners from SiriusXM, new ones, and they're probably going, what's this all about?
And then there's going to be my group that's probably come over from terrestrial radio.
Well, welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to extra terrestrial radio.
This is going to be fun.
It's strange because before the show began and for days or maybe weeks now, I've been sweating it, really sweating it.
But just before the program tonight, a half hour, an hour before, I began pacing back and forth, sweat breaking out on my forehead, sweat breaking out all over me.
But just before it began, I just played some music that I love.
You know, I'm a music nut, as most of you know.
And a strange kind of calm descended on me.
And so now I'm calm.
Now, I've got something I've got to do.
Tonight, we're going to have Michio Kaku, Professor Kaku, on.
He is probably America's premier theoretical physicist.
And it's really, really, really interesting stuff.
I'm sure a lot of you have seen Michio on TV, various science shows.
In fact, actually, he's all over TV.
We're going to talk to him about that.
But there's something I've got to do at the beginning of the show.
And I promised my listeners I would do this.
So some of you here on SiriusXM may not digest this very well, but it won't be long.
And then we'll begin the regular show.
Yeah, here I am back.
And of course, the question is, everybody who's wanted to interview me is, why are you back?
But to answer it, I need to relate a little bit of history.
Something I've never talked about.
Something I've wanted to talk about for years now.
So a little history.
I've been called a serial retiree.
And some of it is fair rap.
There were short periods where I left broadcasting because of the events that occurred to my family in my life.
My son was attacked.
There were false allegations that were made about me.
I had to take legal action over it.
My wife of 16 years, dear Ramona, died unexpectedly.
These sorts of things that come along in life, they're big things too, would stop most people, I think, in their tracks, and they stop me.
In each case, though, I did return to broadcasting as soon as I could.
In some cases, you know, like my son and so forth and so on, it was a matter of days before I got back.
There was one long period of time when I was gone, and this is the one that I have never talked about.
I'm going to tonight.
That was nine months to a year somewhere in there that I was gone.
And that fairly is a retirement.
The reason for it is the reason for my falling out with Premier Radio and Clear Channel.
For years now, I've held something inside of me that to move forward, I'm going to have to get out.
So here it comes.
I've got a lot of anger, institutional hatred, actually, for Premier Radio.
That if anything has grown in recent weeks and days.
So tonight, I guess I want to tell you why and clear the air, and then I'll be done with it.
Back in 98, my son was sexually assaulted by his high school teacher, who was HIV positive.
That man is now serving a prison sentence for that attack, and my son, to this day, suffers deep scars, which have never healed and never may.
Thank God, of course, he's not HIV positive or has AIDS or anything like that.
Anyway, while trying to deal with all of that, a couple of radio hosts went on international radio and said there was a secret sealed indictment here in Prump, Nevada, charging me, Arpel, with child molestation.
I think murderers are treated better in prison, so it's really an awful allegation.
Then others began repeating it And worse.
To be very, very clear, and I want to be, there was an indictment, not naming me, oh no, but of course, the teacher who had attacked my son.
Well, I immediately contacted Premier Radio and requested their legal help in defending my reputation as well as that of the companies, right?
It's their reputation that's on the line, too, wouldn't you think?
Anyway, at the time, my show was clearing, I think, more affiliates than Rush Limbaugh's.
Not more, I'm sorry.
More than anybody save Rush Limbaugh.
So I assumed that the company would leap to our collective defense.
I mean, that's a horrible allegation, right?
Boy, was I wrong.
I had gone to the top management for help.
I received a memo shortly thereafter, which I'm sure they didn't intend for me to get, but I got it.
I've still got it.
It was from a manager at Premier to another manager, actually vice president, that said in part, get this, it was a worthless lawsuit, and besides, Premier had not been defamed.
I went nuts.
To me, then and now, it's totally beyond incredible that any company could not act to protect one of their big assets, their host, and their own reputation.
How could it be?
How could it be?
I just seethed about it inside for years and until now that they could let me, you know, sort of slowly twist in the wind like that.
Well, finally, after a long absence, the show, I guess, was in some distress.
It had lost affiliates.
And so the president of Premier Radio at that time, as well as the CEO of Clear Channel, the big guy himself, both came a call and they sat on my couch.
There's lots of good reasons, though, that I am back.
I love radio.
I mean, I really love it.
I've been in radio all my life.
Began with ham radio, went to rock and roll radio, spent a lot of years there, talk radio, you name it, radio.
That's all I've ever done, so that's all I know, and that's why I'm here.
Now, I've got a very wonderful wife right now, by the way, not 13 years of age, as the internet seems to suggest, but 29, be 30 March 1st, who's very, very supportive.
That's Aaron, my wife now, seven years.
We've got a wonderful six-year-old, proud to be in the first-grade daughter named Asia.
So Aaron and Asia Now, get up early at about six in the morning for school every day.
Well, I'm a nocturnal being, and I've been one all my life.
I get a message on Facebook from a guy named Jeremy Coleman.
And that was pretty cool because he had to pay five bucks because I've got 5,000 members in Facebook, so he had to pay five bucks.
And I called him and he said, you know, why don't you come to, and I've had terrestrial offers all over the place.
A couple of really big ones turned him down.
But here is Jeremy saying, come to SiriusXM and just have fun.
Do, you know, like three hours, four days a week, and just do what you want.
Have fun.
That was it.
I'm like an old radio pirate.
That was too much for me.
So I rounded up some old buddies.
Heath Rowland did artbell.com way back when.
Keith Rowland's doing artbell.com now.
In fact, if you don't believe it, go over there and take a look.
Artbell.com.
You've got a good reason to go over there because we've got something called the wormhole.
No, not Fast Blast.
That was yesterday.
Today, with a name like Dark Matter, the way you can send a message to me is pretty cool.
You can do it by going to artbell.com, look for the wormhole, and then if you have a question from me, a comment for me, or my guest, the wormhole will digest it in Arizona.
It will come whizzing all the way over here to Nevada and appear magically on my screen.
And you don't have to be any special kind of anything to use the wormhole.
You can all use it.
So how many of you guessed what my bumper music theme would be?
Everybody was trying.
Ride my seesaw was such an obvious choice.
Want to take a ride, right?
And a ride is what it's going to be.
This is going to be an awful lot of fun.
Anyway, here I am on SiriusXM.
There's no rules, folks.
Oh, well, there's one.
No bad language.
Now, I know to the SiriusXM crowd, that may seem, you know, like anti-Fourth Amendment or something.
That means you just let it ring and I'll pick it up.
Now, don't call right now because I'm not ready for calls.
But when we do do open lines, they're going to be unscreened.
If we have a guest, yes, we'll screen just to the degree that we'll make sure you have a relevant question for the guest.
But otherwise, uh-uh.
Otherwise, we'll not screen.
Let's see, anything.
Oh, politics.
I said we wouldn't talk about politics, but, you know, it'll sneak in a little bit.
There's no way to avoid it.
If you talk about global warming or cooling is the latest news, you know, it's going to get a little political.
I mean, some topics just you can't avoid it.
That's all there is to it.
So there'll be a little bit of that.
But I have interests that lie in other areas, you know, science, the paranormal, our very existence, stuff like that.
So we're about to get underway.
I think it seems to me there's something else I wanted to tell you, and it's skipping my mind right now.
So that's kind of it.
A little bit of politics only when it relates.
Oh, I know what it was.
Last night, I was sitting in this studio listening to whoever was on around like midnight or 1 a.m., and it was hilarious because it was one talk host talking to another.
And he was saying, you know, are you going to listen tomorrow night?
You know, this guy talks about aliens.
Are you going to listen to that?
Of course, we talk about much more than aliens, but they come up.
And they were joking about it and having a good old time at my expense.
And so I sat and listened.
You know, it kind of piqued my interest, so I sat and listened a little bit.
And I guess I listened for an hour because they started taking calls.
They tried to go off to some other topic, you know, but they began taking calls on whatever show this was.
And every single call was about aliens.
Totally cracked me up.
I mean, here they were having a few jokes at my expense.
Hey, he's coming on tomorrow night.
He's going to talk about aliens.
Why don't they just float down?
I heard.
And then they began going to the phones, and every single call was about aliens.
And I think I may have heard a crack toward the end of it.
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short break and we'll be right back.
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Music Music Music Music Music I hear the drums echo in tonight.
And she has only whispers of so quiet conversation.
She's coming in 120 fights.
The moon that brings reflect the stars that guide the voice.
You got me running, going out of my mind.
You got me thinking that I'm wasting my time.
Don't bring me down.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'll tell you what's wrong before I get off the floor.
Don't bring me down.
You want to stay out with your fancy friends.
I'm telling you it's got to be here.
Don't bring me down.
No, no, no, no, no.
I'll tell you what's wrong before I get off the floor.
Don't bring me down.
It's XM, baby, and we're very serious.
To call Art Bell, please manipulate your communication device and call 1-855, Real UFO, at 1-855-732-5836.
All right, a little note about those phone numbers.
And the reason is, if you do, it'll only ring 20 times, and then we'll hang up on you.
And that will probably frustrate you and make you angry.
So, that's it.
I'm watching the lines.
Hang up and wait.
We're going to interview Dr. Kaku, and then at some point, if he so desires, we will take calls.
And then if he's only here for, you know, two and a half hours, then we'll take an hour of open lines on screen.
All right, let's do it.
Dr. Michiu Kaku is an internationally recognized authority in theoretical physics and the environment.
He holds the Henry Summit Professorship in Theoretical Physics at the City College and the Graduate Center of the City University of New York.
That's quite a sentence.
He has lectured around the world, and his PhD-level textbooks are actually required reading at many of the top physics labs.
Dr. Kaku graduated from Harvard in 1968.
Summa cum laude.
Number one in his physics class.
No surprise, huh?
Received his Ph.D. from the University of California at Berkeley Radiation Lab in 1972.
There's a place for you that there are stories.
He held a lectureship at Princeton University in 1973.
Joined the faculty at the City University of New York, where he has been a professor of theoretical physics now for 25 years.
His goal is to help complete Einstein's dream of a theory of everything, a single equation, he likes to say no bigger perhaps than your thumb, which would unify all the fundamental forces in the universe.
All right, let's start with the really, actually the hard stuff.
Where is it?
All right, here we go.
In quantum theory, certain physical systems can become entangled, meaning their states are directly related to the state of another object somewhere else.
When one object is measured and the Schrödinger wave function collapses into a single state, that's complicated, the other object collapses into its corresponding state no matter how far away the objects are.
If you think of two particles and you get them together and they're flipping and flopping, well, once they've come together, their flips and flops are going to be exactly the same.
It doesn't matter if one's in New York and one's in Moscow.
If you take two electrons and bring them together so they vibrate in unison, and then you separate them, an invisible umbilical cord connects them no matter how far they are separated.
You can separate them to the ends of the galaxy, and you vibrate one, and in some sense, the other one is aware of the fact that it's attached to an object on the other side of the galaxy.
So if you know that one electron is spin up, then its partner is going to be spin down.
But if you separate them and you measure the spin of one electron and it's down, then instantly, faster than the speed of light, you now know that an object on the other side of the galaxy is spin up, which is amazing.
However, quantum teleportation, a la Star Trek, is a direct consequence of this effect.
And this has now been demonstrated at the University of Austria, also Caltech, University of Maryland, many places.
And quantum teleportation, a la Star Trek, that is teleporting Captain Kirk from one place to another, may eventually be possible.
We already teleport atoms now.
Individual atoms can also be connected using this method of entanglement so that the atom here can exchange information to another atom on the other side of the galaxy.
Well, let me just wait until they've really got it down before I volunteer for an entire body move.
Here's what I wanted to ask you, the build up to all this.
Here's where it is.
And this is going to take you out of your comfort zone a little bit.
But boy, I was sitting here thinking about all of this, the quantum story you just told.
And then I thought about twins.
You know, people who were twins.
You know, I've been off on this for years now, this consciousness kick.
I think, Professor, consciousness may have a quantum link.
I know that's a terrible jump for you, but I have this feeling.
And my example would be twins.
Sometimes you've got a twin on one side of the world feeling pain when the other side, you know, the twin on the other side of the world has something awful happen to it.
And I've just got this funny feeling there's a quantum connection.
Well, you know, some of the greatest minds of quantum mechanics, like Eugene Wigner, winner of the Nobel Prize, he helped to build the atomic bomb.
He believed that the quantum theory proved that there has to be a cosmic consciousness.
And the reason for that is as follows.
When you do this measurement, you don't know whether an object is spin up or spin down until you look at it.
So the observation process, in some sense, determines its state.
And this means that since observation requires consciousness, only conscious beings can make measurements, we think, right?
This means that consciousness is required to make an observation.
And this goes back to what it's called the Schultzer cat problem, where if I put a cat in a box and I attach a gun to the cat, so the gun can kill the cat, is the cat dead or alive?
Well, before you open the box, we physicists have to add the wave function of a dead cat to the wave function of a live cat.
The cat is neither dead nor alive.
When you open the box, then you say, aha, the cat is alive.
So this means that observation that is opening the box in some sense determined that the cat was alive.
We physicists like to measure everything in terms of energy.
That's how we quantify things, including civilizations in outer space.
So if you look at outer space, there must be three types of civilizations, type 1, type 2, type 3, depending upon energy output.
Eventually, a civilization becomes planetary.
They control the oceans.
They can mine the Earth.
They can mine the ocean.
They control the weather.
So they control all planetary energy, like volcanoes and earthquakes.
That's type 1.
Type 2 is they've exhausted the power of a planet and they start to mobilize the power of a star.
They play with stars like Star Trek.
The Federation of Planets would be a very typical type 2 civilization where they've colonized just a few star systems.
Then eventually you exhaust the power of a star and you go to the galaxy.
That's type 3 where you roam the galactic space lanes like the Empire of Empire Strikes Back.
So we have planets, stars, and galaxies.
But recently I was speaking in London and a little kid comes up to me and he says, Professor, you're wrong.
There's got to be type 4.
And I said, well, you're crazy.
There's no such thing as type 4.
There are only planets, stars, and galaxies.
And he said, no, there's type 4, the power of the continuum.
And then I realized, yeah, there is something beyond galactic power, and that's dark energy.
And that's the continuum.
That's the power of the Q. And I realized, oh my God, there really is an extra galactic source of energy out there, dark energy, which actually makes up about 73% of the universe's energy.
Everywhere I go around the world, people speak English to each other.
I could go to Vietnam and see Chinese, Vietnamese, and Laotian physicists, and they all speak English to each other because there's no common language in Asia other than English.
And the same thing in Europe.
You can go to a conference in Europe among scientists, and they all speak English.
Actually, you know, in the old days when I interviewed you about this, I asked you about the odds of either A being destroyed as a type zero or B making it to type one and, you know, popping the quartz on champagne.
But I don't know.
I've got this feeling that you probably haven't changed your mind.
What are the odds that we make it successfully to type one without destroying ourselves?
And, you know, we were in denial about so many of these problems back then.
But now, you know, they dominate the headlines, you know, global warming and, you know, nuclear proliferation, stuff like that.
People are beginning to get aware of some of these things.
And so I think that that's going to be good.
And, you know, democracy is spreading because of the Internet.
Look at Arab Spring and look at the spread of democracy because of the Internet.
And democracies do not war with other democracies.
You know, think of every war that you've learned since you were in grade school.
And they've always been between kings, queens, emperors, and dictators, but never between two democracies.
And so as the Internet spreads democracies, democracies don't war with other democracies.
And so I think we will have wars in the future, but they're going to be less wars, less ferocious and less common as the spread of democracy takes hold.
The big loser in all this, I think, are dictatorships.
Dictatorships thrive on the ignorance of their own people.
And I think, you know, to be a dictator is to be an endangered species.
I mean, are there some jobs that are so damn dangerous that if they start a real cleanup and send in the military, there's going to be people that will not live through the experience?
Robots have been a giant failure worldwide anyway.
I mean, when I was a kid, we all thought, oh, man, robots will be doing the dishes and cleaning the rugs and everything else by the time we're grown up.
But, you know, if they do what the Russians did, they'll order hundreds of thousands of people to go in just for a few minutes apiece and turn the screws and open the valves and begin the cleanup operation.
You realize they keep dumping cold water on the reactor and it flows out because the loop is not closed.
It's an open loop.
And until they close the loop, they're going to dump more water and create more radioactive water as a consequence.
You know, cesium, strontium, and iodine occur in water-soluble form, and they will eventually wind up into the food chain.
In fact, even in Tokyo, some housewives bring Geiger counters when they go shopping.
There are hotspots, hot spots outside the evacuation zone of Fukushima.
Well, you know, because it rains and the radiation was distributed unevenly.
There are hot spots.
And as you get closer to Fukushima, they're dead zones, you know, areas that, just like at Chernobyl, will be off-limits for centuries to come.
And it does mean that we have to inspect the fish because strontium, iodine, cesium will accumulate in muscle tissue and different kinds of organs of the fish.
So it is something that has to be monitored.
So far, so good.
So far, there has been no major dumping of radioactive waste, but hey, it could happen.
It's seeping slowly.
But so far, we have not yet seen a catastrophic breach of the water.
Professor, if you were a one-man committee in charge of deciding what the world needs to do with nuclear power and nuclear power plants and where we go as a world from here for energy, what would your advice to the world be with respect to nuclear power?
Well, I think every country has to decide for itself, but the Germans have decided and they've thrown in the towel.
Nuclear power is going to be phased out in Germany.
Also, Switzerland, they both have phased out nuclear energy.
Italy is teetering.
Japan, every poll shows that the people do not want nuclear.
But of course, something has to replace it, right?
And right now, there's no single white knight.
We would like to go with solar and renewable technology and clean technology.
But solar is more expensive.
And we're going to have to reduce the cost of solar.
Now, further down the line, I think maybe within five to ten years, in that framework, solar power gets cheaper and cheaper and slowly becomes more competitive with oil and coal.
But on a 10-year timeframe, fusion becomes possible.
The French are bidding the store on the ITER fusion reactor that will hopefully go online in 10 years or so.
Well, we don't know because we've never had an operating fusion reactor before.
But fusion reactors do not melt down.
Meltdowns are caused by nuclear waste.
The heat emitted from nuclear waste causes meltdowns.
I think we should start to look at other forms of energy.
I think for the next 10 years, there's going to be a flux.
No one single white knight is going to emerge in the next 10 years.
Right now, fossil fuels are as cheap as they've been because of shale and fracking.
So that's given some industrial nations breathing space.
But I think that eventually, in a 10-year timeframe, renewables, solar, hydrogen will become competitive with fossil fuels.
And again, 10 years from now, fusion starts to be in the mix.
And so I think in the next 10 years, we're going to see chaos.
The atmosphere is going to get worse with global warming.
We're going to dump more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.
But in a 10-plus year timeframe, there's some good news in the sense that renewable technology becomes cheaper and fusion becomes a possibility in that timeframe.
And that is, if they can visit us from these fantastic distances, hundreds and hundreds of light years, they're probably type two, or more likely type three.
And, you know, our galaxy could be teeming with information being exchanged by different type three civilizations, right?
Yeah, the other flip side of this is that perhaps Type Zero civilizations are common, like us, but they never make it to Type 1.
They self-destruct.
So when we have starships and visit these planets one day, we may see atmospheres that are radioactive, atmospheres that are super hot, atmospheres with germs in them, because they had warfare and they polluted their planet.
And perhaps that's a warning that we are now on the verge of becoming type 1.
We're making the historic transition, the first time in civilization, from one type to another type, and we may not make it.
Yeah, and so people are now taking their own destiny in their own hands.
And so I think that's a real positive statement.
And, you know, like I said, you know, once governments become democratic, people worry about sewer systems and taxations and how to educate their kids.
They don't want to glorify the king.
They don't want to sacrifice their kids for some unnamed war in some unnamed continent, right?
Yeah, well, unfortunately, Kepler is a satellite that discovered thousands of these planets, and it's crippled right now.
So unfortunately, it's not stable.
It cannot lock on to planets and make the delicate measurements that it used to.
However, there's enough data for us to analyze it for years to come.
And Kepler only looked at a fragment, a fragment of the Milky Way galaxy and found thousands of planets.
And about 1% or so of them are Earth-like.
And so we may find a twin of the Earth in outer space perhaps this year or next year at the rate at which we're going.
This year or next year, somebody's going to announce that we have found a twin of the Earth, same size, same characteristics, perhaps with liquid oceans.
I mean, I want radio or TV or some, for example, will we ever have an instrument, even in space, delicate enough to detect any sign at all of civilization, even if they're not trying to communicate?
That's also possible because the way in which we send information may not be the way they send information.
If your message is going to be scrambled across supernovas and gas clouds, you want redundancies and you want to spread your signal around a bit and you want to pulse it.
And so, yeah, these messages being sent by exterrestrials could be on a totally different kind of frequency.
They could be spread over several different frequencies.
They could be pulsed.
There are many ways that they can increase the efficiency of transmission through gas clouds and supernovae.
But we are looking for hydrogen frequency messages, which is stupid if you think about it.
Why should aliens communicate with radio on a hydrogen frequency?
Well, first of all, I would not do what other scientists have done, and that is to advertise our existence and to give our exact coordinates in outer space with regards to the nearby stars.
We don't know their intentions.
I think their intentions are going to be good because, of course, if they're that advanced, there's plenty of uninhabited planets to plunder for natural resources.
They don't have to bother with us.
So I think they're going to be peaceful.
However, on the small chance that they're not peaceful, I don't think we should advertise our existence because they may pick up a medallion and say to themselves, lunch.
Higgs, listen, the Higgs particle, I saw a special on it, I think the other day, and it showed people like yourself and many others in a giant auditorium going, you know, yay, we found it.
We found it finally.
The Higgs particle, the God particle, it was called, I believe, right?
In other words, the giant Hadron Collider, or large one, I guess they call it, found it, but they found it not by seeing it, but like seeing where it was.
In other words, they made it, and it existed for a zillionth of a second and disappeared.
So all they did was look at the clutter around it and said, ah, there it was Higgs.
Yeah, it's like taking a piano and throwing it out of a 10-story building and listening to the crash of the piano.
And then from the sound, reconstructing what the piano was made of.
That's what we physicists have to do.
We take protons, smash them like a piano thrown from a 10-story building, look at the debris, and then run the videotape backwards.
When you run the videotape backwards, then you try to reassemble the piano as it impacts on the ground to reconstruct what the piano looks like.
That's how we found the Higgs boson.
We smash protons together at trillions of electron volts, look at all the garbage coming out, run the videotape backwards to the instant of the collision, and then we say, aha, bingo, we see it.
Can you actually, I mean, you can't really, well, I guess bag is a loose term, but you couldn't take a bunch of Higgs particles and bag them at all because you'd just be empty, right?
We can't measure it directly because it is invisible and there's very little of it.
If you held it in your hand, it would filter right through your hand down to China, reverse itself in China, and come back to the Earth and come back to where you're sitting in your living room, and then oscillate between your hand and China.
It has no electric charge and therefore goes right through matter as if it was a ghost.
However, it does obey gravity, and so like a ball bouncing back and forth, it'll go all the way to China, stop, reverse itself, and come all the way back to, well, New York, where I am, and oscillate between New York and China as if the Earth weren't there.
We think that the Higgs is ordinary matter in the sense it interacts with the other particles In a very standard way, we think that dark matter is stable, but it has neutral charge, sort of like the neutron.
The neutron also has neutral charge.
It's unstable, so it disintegrates.
However, dark matter is stable.
You could put it on your table.
It'll fall through the table, but you can temporarily put it on your table.
Neutrons are unstable, but neutrons would also be very ghost-like.
Neutrons also have zero charge.
Neutrons also would just filter right through objects as if they didn't exist because they don't have any charge.
We were supposed to have our machine outside Dallas, Texas, the supercollider, but it was canceled because one congressman asked a physicist, among other things, will we find God with your supercollider?
And the physicist says, no, we won't find God, but we'll find the Higgs boson.
Well, all the jaws hit the floor in Congress.
What?
$10 billion for a goddamn subatomic particle.
And they canceled our machine.
Now, I would have answered it differently.
I would have said, God, by whatever signs or symbols you ascribe to the deity, this machine, the supercollider, will take us as close as humanly possible to his greatest creation, and that is Genesis.
This is a Genesis machine.
It'll recreate on a tiny microscopic scale the instant of creation.
That's what I would have said.
However, we said Higgs boson machine was canceled.
Well, you know, I had lunch with a producer from the Science Fiction Channel one day, and I casually mentioned to him that, well, yeah, there are some people who might think that it's going to create a black hole that's going to swallow up the Earth, blah, blah, blah.
But I told him I didn't think so because, you know, cosmic rays from out of space bathe the Earth with energies much greater than this peace shooter called the Large Hadron Collider.
But anyway, they ran with it and they did a TV series and it scared the hell out of people.
Look, Professor, sometimes very small things, and modern hydrogen bombs are actually pretty small if you want them to be, do really big things.
And so along that line of thinking, you have to allow at least a tiny probability of something really big happening from something, from some really small collision.
We have cosmic rays in outer space that have much more energy than what we earthlings can attain on the planet Earth.
And the Earth is bathed in the radiation from these collisions, like black holes colliding with other black holes, far beyond what the Large Hadron Collider can produce.
And hey, we're still here.
So the very fact that we're here is proof that the probability is near zero that the Large Hadron Collider is dangerous.
Okay, Large Hadron Collider, but maybe the next collider or the one after it.
In other words, at some point, as we progress, and we always progress, isn't it possible that some little thing, some little collision will have some really big effect, some big creative effect?
But when you talk about the match, that really makes it sound like, well, you know, when we've got the match and we've got it Just right, and we strike it.
Look out, baby.
It's creation time.
And, you know, with that comes at least the probability of something really big.
Do you ever worry that one day you'll wake up and you'll suddenly hear from some astronomer somewhere that, oh my God, we've just spotted two black holes within our area of responsibility that appear to be headed for each other?
All right, so let's say you wake up one morning, you get a call from an astronomer who, or many astronomers, who are suddenly saying, look, we have an increasingly large number of stars disappearing from the field that we're capable of viewing.
In other words, something's headed apparently directly toward us.
So could there be a project where the United States would dig under, I don't know, Ohio, and we'd have some great underground shelter to try to continue humanity, just like a movie.
I wasn't worried when we started this program tonight.
Now I'm worried.
Professor, stay right where you are, and we will be right back.
Now I'm actually worried.
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How about you?
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Now, that makes me ask, well, if they're actually watching them move toward each other with the consequences you discussed, they should be able to at least make a rough guess about how long it is before they get together with what we're seeing looking back in time like that and sort of know when it might happen or not.
All right, so you're saying that these two stars that are coming together, we know for certain that they're coming together and that it's going to happen, but we don't know when.
They are about 7,000, 8,000 light years, and so we're within the kill radius of the gamma-ray burst.
So a gamma-ray burst, first of all, an ordinary supernova would have to be maybe within 10 light-years of the Earth to cause damage.
However, a gamma-ray burster is the second largest explosion known to science other than the Big Bang itself.
The energy output will outshine an entire galaxy.
And so the energy output, he just calculated, would be enough to incinerate anything in its path for thousands of light years.
And so we are in the kill zone of WR104.
That's why we're tracking it.
That's why we're looking at it.
And that's why scientists write papers trying to estimate the angle, the angle at which the beam is going to come out when it comes out and whether or not we are in the beam or slightly outside the beam.
First of all, the ozone layer which surrounds the Earth is very sensitive to radiation.
It protects us.
Without the ozone layer, we would get sunburned very rapidly going outside.
So if the gamma-ray burst were to hit us, it would knock out maybe 50% of the ozone layer, depending upon which calculation you look at.
But, you know, if 50% of the ozone layer is knocked out, that's a huge amount of X-rays coming from the sun, just bathing all life forms on the planet Earth.
It would be constantly bathed by intense x-rays, which would kill off vegetation, kill off animals, blind animals with eyes.
It's not going to be pleasant.
And so it means that the population that survived underground is going to have a food crisis.
They may have to grow food underground, you know, using hydroponics, basically to create a whole civilization underground in order to grow food that is not going to be hit with all the x-rays coming from the sun.
So civilization, as we know it, would shrink enormously because we would have to create an entire agriculture underground to survive because it would be permanently too radioactive outside.
That is too much X-rays bathing the surface outside.
Well, with something like WR 104, we need to take more data.
We know that we're very close to being in the gun barrel or are inside the gun barrel, but it goes back and forth depending upon which astronomer you talk to.
And so we don't want to spread panic.
We don't want to go out there and announce that, therefore, we should all dig underground and build follow-up shelters.
We're just looking at the situation very carefully.
Well, it's a dud, but, you know, that's a good thing because if the sun has a temper tantrum and we're in the bullseye of the sun, it's not going to be pleasant.
You know, the Carrington event 150 years ago would have knocked out civilization as we know it.
Well, you know, I'm a member of the American Physical Society.
That's the leading physics organization in the United States.
A subcommittee actually went to Congress and said that it could be $2 trillion in property damage if the sun were to have a gigantic flare that would hit the earth.
$2 trillion in property damage.
We asked for a few hundred million to reinforce satellites, reinforce power stations, create redundant systems, shielding.
Yeah, computers cannot create original thoughts or learn anything.
However, they're good adding machines.
And what they do is they take the electrical signals of the brain, and we write a subroutine that then decodes them and translates these signals of the brain into something that's recognizable, which can then be used to drive a wheelchair, an appliance, a mechanical arm.
And so people who are totally paralyzed, who are vegetables, can now live a reasonably normal life, communicating, playing video games, and interacting with the world.
Not the telepathy a la magicians and magic shows in Las Vegas, but using computers to decipher thoughts.
In fact, we're at the verge now of being able to photograph a dream and be able to videotape a dream.
Yeah, already we can videotape people's thoughts so that if you're thinking about a bird or you're thinking about a car or something, we can get a computer that will MRI the brain and then reconstruct a reasonable approximation to a bird or a car or whatever you're thinking.
And when you're sleeping, this machine will continue to decipher images that the brain is thinking.
And I had a chance to go to Berkeley where I got my PhD and actually see some of these computer programs.
One person was dreaming and he was put into an MRI machine and the computer said that he was dreaming about people's faces.
It's still a crude computer program.
It couldn't do any better than that.
But the very fact that you can tell what a person is dreaming about is incredible, right?
We forget our dreams literally in moments from waking up, unless we make some kind of really serious conscious effort to remember them and or write them down.
If there was the ability for anybody to monitor our dreams, you know, some facility up in Utah is going to be categorizing dreams and storing them and sending out guys in black to meet with us when it's not to their expectations.
Perhaps so, but I envision this day, Professor, when, I don't know, somebody out there is monitoring our dreams and one of us has a dream about blowing something up, something that even sounds remotely subversive or troublemaking, and then, you know, at the door.
So far, the whole privacy argument has not worked out too well, frankly.
Yeah, well, you know, hopefully democracy has checks and balances, so we make sure that we don't get into a 1984 situation where we have, you know, big brother watching us all the time.
That's one of the advantages.
The fact that the Internet makes information so freely available is one of the reasons why everybody knows about the problem so quickly.
Well, you see, because the Internet is out of the bag, no one can control the entire Internet, which means that as long as governments try to eavesdrop on us, there will be ways in which this will be revealed and given to the international media really quick.
And so I think there are checks and balances.
I mean, governments will always try to do this, right?
Armies, for example, want to win wars.
They don't want to lose wars.
They want to win wars.
But governments want to govern.
And of course, they're going to try to eavesdrop.
Therefore, it means that we have to step in, the people, and use the Internet in order to make sure that there are safeguards.
But again, I'm pointing out that it hasn't worked out very well thus far.
You know, I do read these precious documents we talk about, and I'm almost to the point where, you know, I'm saying, You know, what we ought to do is put the Bill of Rights at the end of our email.
And if we did, maybe the government would read it.
But remember, in the 50s and 60s, it was a lot worse.
The government had a top secret program called MKUltra.
And MKUltra, you know, roped in many, many universities and top scientists to do all sorts of bogus experiments on the brain, LSD, drugs, truth serums, all sorts of crazy things were investigated by the CIA and the government, you know, in the name of national security.
But, you know, in a democracy, things come out.
Now we have many of these documents that have been declassified, and we know the kind of shenanigans that the CIA was involved with.
You know, drugging people without their permission.
Some of them were given LSD and committed suicide as a consequence.
You know, this information finally did get out.
But remember, that was the Cold War.
That was when the military thought the Russians were doing it.
And so we had to do it too, you know, these mind-control experiments.
I once again have to urge you not to call yet because we have not quite decided to take questions, but we're going to do that shortly.
So, you know what?
Go ahead and call.
Why not?
Let's see it light up.
I've been waiting for this moment anyway.
If you have a question for Dr. Kaku, Professor Kaku, then I guess now would be a good time to call.
The number is, and it's a new number, and don't imagine it's just one person that can get through because you can all get through.
The number is 855-732-5836.
Or, put it another way, 855-REAL-UFO.
That's a pretty neat number, huh?
1-855-REAL-UFO.
And when you call that number, we will try and be sure that you have a legitimate question for Dr. Kaku, and you'll be put on hold, and then we will proceed.
In the meantime, back to the subject of suitcase nukes.
You know, and I do want to get to the phones for these folks.
You talk about in your book, in your new book, The Future of the Mind, about the possibility, and this has always fascinated me, of uploading memories, sort of like in The Matrix.
Now, I've heard recent news that scientists are actually prepared, Professor, to test the theory that we might be in a Matrix now, and they figured out some way to test for that.
Okay, first of all, with mice, just a few weeks ago at MIT, they were able to insert a false memory into a mouse.
In Los Angeles, scientists there have been able for the past few years to insert real memories into a mouse.
So uploading memories has been done, very simple memories, memories that a mouse can absorb.
But the very fact you can do it is amazing.
Second of all, there are some people who think that maybe the universe is a matrix.
It's very hard to disprove that theory, right?
All theories have to be falsifiable, but it's awfully hard to falsify a statement that reality as we know it is a matrix.
But I haven't heard about any test that'll do it.
Most people would think that it's not a falsifiable statement.
That is, there's no experiment that you can create that'll determine whether or not you live in the matrix or not.
In other words, whether or not you are a CD that some being has put the play button, and there you are thinking you have free will, but actually you're nothing but a CD running around in somebody's PC.
So to the best of my knowledge, it's an undecidable statement.
Well, see, a mouse was taught, for example, to tap a button when it was given water, a very simple memory.
Then it was given a drug that it forgot the memory.
They recorded the memory when it was originally made, reinserted it back in, and the mouse relearned it after forgetting it.
So they know that it was done correctly.
At MIT, they actually put a false memory, a memory of something that didn't happen, and the mouse responded to it.
So we do know that the hippocampus, which is deep inside the brain, is where memories are first processed.
You can now record the processing process using electrodes, play back the memory, play back the recording back into the hippocampus, and bingo, the mouse relearns what it had forgotten.
However, eventually it may make possible a brain net.
That is, some people think that the next evolutionary step for the Internet, which will take a few decades, is the brain net, whereby we exchange more than just digital and text messages.
We actually exchange emotions, thoughts, memories, feelings.
And that a brain net is probably possible.
Initial steps have already been made in different laboratories.
And so a brain net may be the ultimate way in which we exchange information.
So the memory of your winning some prize may be sent to all your people on your mailing list.
Well, that's why we have to make sure that you control your memories, that you don't let someone else gain control over them.
This could have problems.
If you can inject false memories into a witness in a murder trial, the witness does not know what really happened because a false memory has been injected into their mind.
So we would have to make sure that people have control over the memories that are injected into them.
Okay, some other things that we might touch on very quickly because we're way out of time and I really want to get some people on the air.
Mars.
Are we ever going to get astronauts, I know there's a program going on right now to volunteer to go to Mars, one-way trip, but I mean, are we ever really going to, do you think, colonize Mars or just pass it by?
Well, first of all, NASA is suffering from an identity crisis.
People call up the agency to nowhere.
They boldly go where everybody has already gone before.
And the question is, where is it going to go?
And the NASA director just a few months ago finally said that, yes, Mars is the destination for NASA.
Now, of course, Congress has to approve the funding for such an ambitious program.
But apparently, NASA will bypass the moon.
The Chinese will be on the moon around 2025, and so we're going to have a Sputnik shock when the Chinese flag is planted on the moon.
But, you know, hopefully we'll be well on our way to Mars by around that time.
And, you know, we need a new booster rocket.
And it's no picnic going to Mars.
It took three days to go to the moon.
A round trip to Mars would take about two years.
And so it's an order of magnitude more difficult in terms of distance, cost, but it's something that is doable.
And President Obama even talked about in the 2030s, he wouldn't be surprised if one day he opened the newspaper and read about astronauts walking the surface of Mars.
So Mars could be the next big goal, but it's not an easy one.
Well, I would say that ultimately it would be to our advantage on Earth to begin to place humans, wouldn't it, on other planets, difficult as it may be, just in case.
And now we really realize that these things go past the Earth at night.
We are totally oblivious to these near misses.
They happen all the time.
And here we are, you know, paying our taxes and, you know, sending our kids to college.
And now we realize that there are these close calls that happen quite frequently.
So I think the next step is to put a satellite that is specifically designed to track these close encounters and give us an early warning system.
Not that we can do anything.
Well, yeah, are the politicians going to the same track these asteroids.
That got nowhere.
So I think we're in a situation where, on one hand, we make fun of NASA because it's not going anywhere, but then, you know, Congress doesn't give them the funds to even do simpler projects like photograph asteroids that go whizzing right by.
All right, Professor, I want to, this will be my first call that I'm going to take.
So if you wouldn't mind, let's see what's out there.
Good evening or morning or whatever it is, wherever you are, you're on the air.
Dark Matter, I'm Art Bell with Dr. Cockleheim.
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Hey, Art.
Wow.
Good evening.
Incredible to hear you on the air again.
My wife and I joked.
I found out, I heard, or I guess I read on the internet that you were coming back to the air while she was in active labor in late July.
And she joked with me that if it were not for the fact that we were about to have our first child, a little girl, just as I know you've had a blessing in your life the past few years, she joked that if that weren't the case, that your news of coming back would be the biggest thing I'd be talking about for months.
So I'm really excited to hear you back on the air.
And also, by the way, I don't think you have any need to do any pacing around.
You're absolutely knocking it out of the park tonight with Dr. Kaku.
You know, he was talking about the matched particles earlier in the program and the idea that something can be on the other end of the universe.
And y'all were talking about how the particle can react a certain way.
And I was wondering, there's something called, I guess it's the whole field is called new physics, the idea that the standard model of the universe, how the universe works, doesn't explain everything.
I wanted to know what he thinks is out there beyond the standard model that we have yet to discover.
Well, first, go to my website because I have articles on this.
It's mkaku.org, mkaku.org.
We think that if you had a supermicroscope and compare into the electron or a neutrino, you would just see a rubber band, a rubber band, and it vibrates in one way, and we call that an electron.
You tweak it, and it turns into a neutrino.
You tweak it again, it turns into a quark.
You tweak it again, and it turns into the hundreds of subatomic particles that we have discovered so far.
So musical notes, that's what we think neutrons and protons are, just different kinds of musical notes.
So physics is basically the laws of harmony of these vibrating rubber bands.
Chemistry is nothing but the melodies you can play on these vibrating strings.
The universe is a symphony of strings.
And the mind of God, the mind of God that Einstein wrote about eloquently for 30 years of his life, the mind of God is cosmic music resonating through 11-dimensional hyperspace.
So we actually have a candidate for the mind of God.
Well, we hoped there was an announcement a few months ago that on the space station, they found a signature that might show the existence of dark matter.
However, you know, that has to be verified and, you know, tested again.
So there is some excitement that maybe we'll snag dark matter with the space station or maybe on some detector on the planet Earth.
There's a big chase going on to try to find dark matter in cosmic rays.
And so, you know, there could be dark matter in your living room.
We're just too primitive to find it and detect it.
But there could be dark matter in your living right now.
We're a member of the fraternity and a member of the International Order of the Crazies.
So if you know what that is, you've got one of the crazies on, and another one of my fire brothers told me you were Back on, and I am thrilled to hear you back on.
It's been great to hear you listen to your first show back on tonight.
All right, do you have a question for the professor?
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Yes, I do.
One of my RV and ham buddies and I both have volunteered at Yellowstone, and Dr. Kaku mentioned that we can expect a big volcano eruption there at some time in the future.
And since we go there quite often to do volunteer work in the open season, I wondered if he could give us any kind of tips of things to look for that might tip us off as to actions that might be an indicator that this is about to happen.
Okay, well, first of all, when people think of Yellowstone, they think of Yogi Bear and the cartoons and stuff like that.
But we have to realize that Yellowstone Park is at the tip, the very tip of a super volcano.
Most of it is underground.
And it last erupted on the scale of hundreds of thousands of years ago.
So the cycle time for these eruptions is measured in thousands of years.
So, however, you know, according to one calculation, we are more or less due for another eruption.
And when that happens, it could tear the guts out of the United States of America.
Now, to look for telltale signs, it turns out that volcano eruptions do have warning signs, unlike earthquakes.
Earthquakes can happen with very little warning.
However, with volcanoes, you have rumblings.
You have stirrings within the volcano.
And so with seismographs and with the different chemical detectors to look for different kinds of materials coming out of the volcano, you have telltale signs that something is happening.
Two years ago, there was some concern that maybe something was building up, but nothing came of that.
But it is something that we have to monitor because if you do fast-forward the videotape, it will blow at some point.
It's a law of physics that it will blow.
And when that happens, it's not going to be pretty at all.
But again, it could be tomorrow or it could be thousands of years in the future.
The thing to do is to monitor it and to listen to it very carefully to see the frequency of eruptions, the severity, because volcanoes, unlike earthquakes, do give you a warning.
Well, relativity violates common sense because we think that a second on the moon is a second on the earth.
We think that a yardstick on Jupiter is the same as a yardstick on the Earth.
Relativity says no.
Time beeps faster on the moon than it does on the Earth.
And our GPS satellites also are a little bit slower in their clock.
And we can measure this.
So relativity gives you a very precise way in which you can determine how time slows down as objects speed up and as they get heavier and as they get contracted.
So when an object moves toward the speed of light, time slows down in that rocket ship, space contracts in that rocket ship, and mass increases.
If you calculate the amount of mass that increases in that rocket ship, it is precisely E equals MC squared.
In fact, that's how you derive E equals M C squared, because the energy of motion has turned into mass.
And so the essence of relativity is that because the speed of light is a constant, it means that space and time change as you go to different points and as you accelerate.
Well, if you take a look at the direction of their technology, right, it's in the direction of creating things that are more and more invisible.
And look at the U-2.
It was so high up that only the Russians could launch a missile to take them out.
The stealth bomber, right?
However, true invisibility is actually possible.
You have to use something called metamaterials, and metamaterials in the laboratory will make an object literally disappear under microwave radiation.
Now they're trying to do it with visible light.
That, of course, is much more difficult because the wavelength of light is so much smaller than microwaves.
But it is within the laws of physics now, just like Harry Potter.
We can't do it yet.
But I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the military is spending billions trying to perfect metamaterials that can wrap light around Harry Potter, just like in the movies, so that literally you have an invisibility cloak.
Well, that's very disappointing, if true, because used to be you could go up by the mailbox not too far from me here and look at what they were thrusting into the air.
Now, with invisibility, that's going to make viewing much less pleasurable.
Some of the things that have been going on, like some of the troops overseas and back over here that are involved in horrific incidents of killing people and walking into military bases, shooting people up and everything like that.
Can it be possible that the government in some way are doing something to these troops?
In other words, in terms of injecting thoughts into people, I know exactly where he's going, Professor, and there are a lot of, I call them head shakers going on, things that just simply don't make sense.
First of all, many, but not all, of these mass shootings are done by people that are mentally ill, and they deserve medical treatment.
Unfortunately, our mental health system is decrepit and non-functional.
Many of these people are just left wandering in the streets, and some of them get guns and will take it out on people.
Second, it is possible with animals now to inject simple memories like sipping water, for example.
We cannot go beyond that because we have to decipher what is called the hippocampus, which is at the very center of the brain, which processes memory.
So doing things like an entire memory of an experience and putting it into a human, that is way beyond what we can do at the present time.
So I don't think the government, even with its intents, can even come close to that when in the most advanced laboratories at MIT and LA and other places, we can barely insert a simple memory into a mouse.
So I think for the most part, we have these unfortunate incidences because we have a mental health system that is broken, and these people should be taken off the street, but instead they get access to guns, which I think is very unfortunate.
Professor Kaku has gone to rest, and I don't blame him.
That was some pretty heady stuff, but I'm not gone.
I'm not gone.
And what I'm going to do is an hour of open lines.
And that means unscreened open lines.
Now, I will go through the remainder of the calls, and people will go, aw, I was on hold for Dr. Kaku, and then you can sort of project if you wish, because I'll leave you on hold.
And then after that, what's going to happen, now listen to me very carefully, because this is really important.
When you call, and I'm in open lines, it's going to ring for 20 rings.
If you don't get through, then it's going to disconnect you and you have to dial again.
I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.
And hopefully I will pick up your call.
Just keep trying.
You will get through.
I can't promise that, but I think, you know, the effort will probably reward you with a connection eventually.
In the meantime, let's do it.
Good morning or evening, whatever it is, wherever you are, you're on the air.
I'm Art Bell.
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Hi, Art.
This is Mike Colin from Fresno, California.
Hey, Mike.
First of all, my radio is off.
Okay, thank you.
My late grandmother introduced me to your show back in the 90s and been listening ever since your retirements there.
I was thrilled to hear you're coming back on the air, and I've been doing a countdown on Facebook every day until you got back on here.
You're also the reason I got into ham radio and got my license.
I was going to ask Mushkaku a question, but he's gone.
I was just wondering about the suitcase nukes, if you really believe that all those Cold War nuclear materials have been destroyed and if any of those out there could be turned into any type of small portable suitcase type weapons.
7-3 is ham parlance for, you know, best wishes and see you later and all of that sort of thing.
So when you hear people throwing that around, it means it's another ham operator out there of some sort.
And hello, you are now on the air.
This is Dark Matter.
I'm Art Bell.
Hello.
Hello, Art.
Okay, there you are.
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Sorry, I just wanted to say welcome back, 73.
And I'm sorry I got it in the tail end, but it's a pleasure to talk with you.
I was fortunate enough to work on the Ice Cube Neutrino Telescope at the South Pole for three seasons.
And one of the things that Dr. Kaku was mentioning that was unfortunate about some of these cosmic events, which might give us a gamma-ray burst, et cetera, or a supernova, that we would only find out about it after it was too late.
One of the things that we were working on, I wrote software for the detector, was a background kind of neutrino function that would trigger and monitor a background noise kind of thing, looking for the background neutrino input, so to speak.
And what they were looking for was a buildup of a neutrino stream, and that's what happened in the early stages of the collapse of a star about to go supernova.
And so it was all the neutrino detectors around the world were linked.
And they had a network called the Snooze network, including IceCube, which is a cubic kilometer embedded in the ice underneath the South Pole.
But the idea was if you could detect this stream of neutrinos, then everybody could get this heads up and aim their telescopes and radio telescopes and optical telescopes at a particular place in the sky and measure this thing as it went off.
And the question I had related to the first thing he started talking to about quantum entanglement.
And so I just was curious, maybe if you had a chance to ask him at some point if it was possible to study the entanglement of particles.
Because if you had one, for instance, that was captured in like the binary black hole system you were talking about, where one of the entangled particles escaped and the other stayed in the system or a stream of them, then perhaps you could study the escaped entangled particle faster than the speed of light and detect something that was going on way before it happened.
So that was my question for Dr. Kako about the throwing into the ether.
I'm sure compared to the South Pole, most things are.
What was the biggest fear down there?
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But getting injured, one of the guys, for instance, on the ice cube drill rigs, we drilled with hot water using car wash heaters at 100 degrees C at 1,000 psi.
And one of the guys, a Swedish man, Sven, got hung up in one of the hoses.
And the drill rig had gone into free fall.
And you have to not grab a hold of things.
And his reaction was to grab a hold of it.
And he got pulled up onto the rig and slammed against the top of the rig instead of free fall.
Thank God he didn't free fall into this meter diameter hole that went down two and a half kilometers into the ice.
Usually, on TV anyway, when a lung collapses, somebody whips out a ballpoint pen, unscrews the end, and goes into the guy, and you hear, and he's been saved.
Somehow I have a feeling there may be a little more to it than that.
Good evening.
I never know what to say.
It depends on what part of the country you're in, but you're on air on Dark Matter.
I'm Mark Bell.
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How you doing, Art?
This is Rafael from Colorado Springs.
Hello.
How you doing?
It's good to hear you again.
I've been listening to you since 94, and it's good to have you back.
And I had a question for the professor, but with your vast knowledge and years of having so many guests, maybe you can answer my question too.
Well, my question is, is with the WR-104 and the gamma rays, the gamma-ray output when they both collide, do you think if hypothetically we had the time and the technology, do you think it would be possible just to build a Dyson sphere in order to protect us from the gamma-ray outburst?
It depends how, you know, because we have NORAD over here, and who knows, they might open up the doors for the citizens of Colorado Springs and the surrounding areas, and we might be able to get in there.
Some of the video coming out of that area has been unbelievable.
And by the way, referencing only briefly the incident that occurred back in Washington, the shooting, I was watching CNN today, earlier today, as the news broke.
And I really, really found it interesting.
There was a medical news conference some hours after this occurred.
And the head of, I don't know, the hospital there was describing the condition of various people who'd been brought to the hospital.
And I don't know if any of the rest of you noticed this or not.
And perhaps it was appropriate that CNN did it.
But just as this lady had sort of finished up with the medical condition of the people, and she'd begun to talk about, you know, in our society, something has got to be done.
There have been changes in our society, something that's bringing this sort of thing about.
She didn't say all that, but she was headed down that road.
And the moment she did, CNN yanked her off like yesterday's dream.
I mean, really yanked her off.
Just sort of, okay, on to the next show, and she's out of here.
Maybe it was appropriate because she was speculating a little bit.
But it's a question that really needs an answer.
What's going on in our society?
I'm Art Bell, and this is Dark Matter.
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Good evening or morning or whatever.
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Mr. Arthur William Bell III, it is so great to have you back on the air, sir.
And I would like to say that William 6 Oscar Bravo Bravo's coming in loud and clear tonight.
But I'll tell you, the question that I have is, and as we're listening on the air, I'm looking at an AP wire from last night that came in at about 11.35 by two guys that work for the AP, the Daily Courier and ABC News.
And that came in last night at 11.31.
To your point, it is on the shooter that occurred this morning at 8.20 a.m. that they released last night on the AP.
And I'm staring at both of these, scratching my head, trying to figure out how it is that this would be leaked on the AP before it actually occurred.
There may be an answer in mathematics somewhere or another.
I don't know.
But look, the quickening, the quickening was kind of a concept that I had that things were accelerating and accelerating beyond our control.
And I think today was another example of it.
I used to call them headshakers, but you've got to admit, you've really got to admit.
Earlier, Dr. Kaku said, well, you know, people are crazy.
People have guns and they're crazy and they're doing this stuff.
Well, people in the United States have always had guns.
We haven't always been as crazy as we apparently are right now.
Is this part of the quickening that people are losing it more easily?
Maybe it is.
Certainly, it's an accelerating phenomenon, and I don't know what to attribute it to.
As you know, I lived for quite a number of years in the Philippines.
And things are very, very different there.
That's not to say that somebody may not pick your pocket, because it happens.
It's not to say that there may not be some scam that goes on.
It happens.
But short of what goes on in the Southern Island, where there are virtual wars going on, other than that, in the rest of the nation, society is pretty much at rest.
And by that, I mean very, very few murders, never a serial murder that I'm aware of.
All kinds of things are different.
It's just a different society.
And the things that are going on here that appear to be part of the quickening are not happening there.
And you have to ask why?
What's the difference?
I think it's worth a fair amount of study to find out why in some societies, and Japan is another example, although they don't particularly have guns there.
Anyway, it's something that I've spent a lot of time thinking about.
I guess Sirius XM is a very, very serious blessing.
If you're an over-the-road trucker, being able to just remain on one station all the way from Boston to L.A., that's got to be nice.
I remember the old days of terrestrial radio and the big 50KW stations when they were there would fade in and out and fade in and out.
You'd have to sort of switch from one to the other.
And now, with satellite radio, Boston to L.A., no problem.
Seattle to Miami, no problem.
Amazing stuff.
By the way, if you get the opportunity, go to artbell.com.
You've really got to do this.
And click on the how to listen.
And when you do, you're going to see a little moving GIF, I think it is, of exactly how the Sirius satellites are deployed, I guess would be the right word.
And they go all the way up into southern Canada and then do a kind of a broad figure eight going down, near as I can see, all the way down to the South Pole, and then back up again.
Now, the ones that loiter over southern Canada, they do the actual broadcasting.
I knew the area around it was still dangerous, but and of course, what's inside was dangerous, but it sounds like the thing is almost in a waste old time bomb waiting to be a little bit more.
Well, it is a time bomb, and not in the way you think of a time bomb.
You think of a time bomb essentially going off, right?
Well, this bomb is capable of going off or of leaking, of poisoning our planet for, I don't know how long, thousands of years, I would suppose thousands of years.
And now we have Japan to worry about, Fukushima.
And I do worry.
You know, I understand that TEPCO is not telling us everything.
I worry that there are some very serious things that TEPCO has not told us.
I worry about the effect the water that is washing over these reactor cores, and that's what they're doing, to keep them cool, try to keep them from heading for, well, I guess it's on the other side of the world, so they'd be headed for this side of the world, wouldn't they?
The China syndrome.
Backwards, well, that's almost us, huh?
You're on the air.
Hello there.
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Art, it is an unbelievable pleasure to be on your first show back.
Well, Art, I mean, I started following you on Facebook before you made your announcement, so I guess Facebook has a lot to do with this geek that you have now, so it's pretty awesome.
You know, I often thought, thank you, when I was, oh, I don't know what's the right word, younger, I guess that's the right word, that I'd love to be an over-the-road trucker.
Absolutely would love it.
I mean, just being out there with your own thoughts and radio and whatever, I think it'd be cool.
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Well, it's a different type of a lifestyle, that's for sure.
But it's, you know, the miles go by a lot quicker with somebody like you to listen to.
And then, like, tonight's first show, couldn't have chosen a better guest.
Dr. Cock, who is just one of the best I think you've ever had.
Are you going is there any way that we can record shows on this?
Are you going to set up some kind of a service where we can do it like they do on Brandex Show, or you can buy some sort of a subscription so we can download the things and listen to them the next day?
In other words, as far as I know, you're able to join SiriusXM, and the old hands at it here will let me know.
But I think you can join either to listen to SiriusXM in your car, in your home with the right receiver, or you can listen on your phone.
For example, I've got it on my iPhone, no problem.
And you can listen to it on your computer.
Now, of course, you could record on any of those devices and play it back.
I think, in fact, if you've got the right receiver, it even offers a rewind so that you can rewind an hour or two and play it.
There's just all kinds of things available.
Now, is there on-demand?
I don't know.
I'm sure that SiriusXM will provide me with the answer to that, but I would imagine there's some kind of on-demand or there will be if there isn't yet.
What I said was that there is a report out right now saying that the global warming that they were talking about is not occurring at the pace they talk about.
That might be due.
You know, if you're one of those people who believes that solar activity relates to weather here on Earth, then you might be onto something.
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Yes, yes.
That's exactly what I found recently online.
I'm not going to plug the website.
That would be rude of me.
But if you do have a show on the sun, hopefully soon, could you please discuss this with your guests if it comes up as far as cosmic rays coming to the side?