Todd Standing, a Bigfoot researcher, presents three years of footage—including bipedal motion and traits inconsistent with humans—from his investigation in the Sylvanic region, sparked by a friend’s dog’s death. He warns of violent retaliation from creatures twice gorilla-sized, dismissing Nephilim theories while advocating for government protection before public disclosure, citing ethical concerns over past killings like Bugs’ 1976 Texas encounter or Unknown 4221’s 1970s shootings. Callers share eerie sightings, from Arkansas to Washington, fueling speculation of suppressed evidence, as Standing urges detailed reports to prove Bigfoot’s existence and secure its survival amid habitat threats. [Automatically generated summary]
From the high desert in the great American Southwest, I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, whatever the case may be in whatever time zone you're residing in, each and every one of them around the world.
That's a long way.
Covered by this program, Coast to Coast AM, the largest program of its type in the world.
Great to be here.
My honor and privilege to be escorting you through the weekend.
The webcam photograph tonight at Coast to Coast AM on our webcam is Yeti.
People have complained they haven't seen Yeti of late, and they haven't because our new little one that we tend to favor photographically hangs around Abby.
They are best buddies.
And so when we've had cat photographs up in the past, it's been the two of them for the most part.
Yeti is still here, well, happy ruling his kingdom.
And oh, he is a ruler, too.
There's a photograph of him taken about an hour ago.
I would like to commend CNN, Headline News.
Been watching it for the last hour and a half or so.
And they have been on the crawl at the bottom of the screen running all of the recalled pet foods.
And I think they deserve plenty of props for that.
It's kind of an arduous list to read, but you keep looking for your own pet food there.
Haven't seen mine yet.
And worrying.
As I said last night, and I won't repeat myself, except to say there needs to be a agency of some sort.
Yes, a government agency.
There would be a central clearinghouse for information of this kind.
Anyway, props to CNN for doing the right thing.
God knows how many animals and how much grief they will save by doing that.
We will get to unscreened open lines, but first, look at the news.
Ever good.
The powerful Shiite cleric Al-Sadr ordered his militiamen on Sunday to redouble their battle to oust American forces, and they argued that Iraq's army and police should join him in defending your archenemy.
The U.S. military announced the weekend deaths of 10 American soldiers, including six killed on Sunday.
Security remained so tenuous in the capital on the eve of the fourth anniversary of the U.S. capture of Baghdad that Iraq's military declared a 24-hour ban on all vehicles in the capital from 5 a.m.
Monday.
Government quickly reinstated Monday as a holiday, just after a, just today rather, after it had declared that April 9th no longer would be a day off.
Well, that's a way to start a revolution in a country.
Tell everybody they've got a day off and then cancel it.
In a rueful reflection on what might have been an Iraqi government insider details in 500 pages, the U.S.'s occupation calls it shocking mismanagement of his country.
A performance so bad, he writes, that by 2007, Iraqis had turned their backs on their would-be liberators.
The corroded and corrupt state of Saddam was replaced by a corroded, inefficient, incompetent, and corrupt state of the new order.
Otherwise, I guess it was fine.
Don Imus is going to appear with Al Sharpton, going to actually go on Al Sharpton's radio program just five days after Imus made racially charged comments on his own show.
And by the way, Sharpton has not changed his mind about trying to roust Imus as he'll continue to write the FCC a letter.
The 15 British sailors and Marines held in Iran for nearly two weeks have permission now to sell their stories to the media.
Ministry of Defense said Sunday that there's exceptional interest in all of this.
The decision drew complaints from some opposition politicians who said the whole thing could tarnish the image of Britain's armed forces.
A teenager once arrested alongside her mother in a prostitution case has now been accused of running an escort service out of her suburban Chicago home using the popular website Craiglist.
Kimberly Peterson, boy, Craigslist, been in the news a lot lately.
Kimberly Peterson 17 arrested after detectives doing a routine search of the site's classified boards found one included, including an offer to enjoy a beautiful blonde for X number of dollars per hour.
All right, in a moment, we will look at the rest of the news.
By the way, folks, I've been keeping track.
You know, I've got, of course, a very public email.
Incidentally, if you want to email me, I'm artbell at mindspring.com.
A-R-T-B-E-L-L at mindspring.com or artbell at A-O-L.com.
And I've been keeping track now for about a year of the amount of money that I've been offered due to, well, any number of things, winning lotteries, sometimes my email, apparently for some reason, just wins large amounts of money.
And of course, the ever-present passing of some Nigerian government official.
Anyway, I've been keeping a running total, and thus far I have passed up, in about the last year, $113,457,994.
That's a lot of money.
$113,475,927.
Just passed it right up.
I'll keep a running total.
All right, bees.
I guess I have been receiving more email of late about the bee disappearance than any other single subject we talk about on the air.
Einstein said if honeybees should disappear from The earth, so would plant, animal, and human life disappear within four years.
An additional observation stated that we humans owe every third bite of food to honeybees.
That may be underdone.
There is a problem here in the U.S. that's been reported in around half the states now and has now spread to Canada as well.
The U.K. and eight other European countries also are reporting the same problem.
They're gone.
The bees, Spain, Poland, Greece, Croatia, Switzerland, Italy, Portugal, Germany.
This is getting really scary.
One British Telegraph newspaper said that in London over 4,000 hives, in London alone, that would be two-thirds of the bees are simply now gone.
Sometimes the dead bees are found, but often the bees seem to have simply been raptured.
One of the strangest parts of the whole story, the mystery, is that in London, at least, no robber bees have invaded the empty hives to make off with the stored honey, which is usually what happens when hives are left empty.
Chomping quotes John Chappell, head of the London Beekeepers Association, as saying, it's frightening.
The mortality rate is the highest in living memory.
No one seems to know what's behind it.
Nobody.
The guesses range right across the board.
On a recent conference call on the subject, Dr. Carlo thinks that the sudden demise might have something to do with EMF, electromagnetic radiation.
He cites the startling stats that at present there are about 2.5 billion cell phone users around the world.
While this, plus the explosive growth of cell phone towers, used to be the major concern.
The problem has now been significantly exacerbated by the recent introduction of satellite radio.
Now, I don't really buy into this, folks, but here's one person blaming the whole thing on electromagnetic radiation.
So I have no idea what's causing the disappearance of the bees, but of all the stories we're following right now, this would seem to have the most immediate consequences for humankind.
No food.
No bees, no pollination, no food.
So with all the things going wrong, this one would seem to be catching us most quickly.
Would you agree with that?
I mean, we've got global warming, but that's out around 2040.
2050, when the really serious consequences manifest, if they're right.
We've got the coming sun cycle looking toward 2011, 2012.
But if two-thirds of the bees are gone now, well, my goodness, that would seem to have rather immediate consequences.
All right, we are going to, I'm going to very shortly now take open line unscreen calls.
That means when I answer, you should immediately turn off your radio.
You'll hear me answer, and you'll hear kind of a sound, I think, and then you'll know you're on the air.
I'll say it.
Reach over and right away turn off the radio, despite the temptation to hear yourself on the radio.
Turn it off because it will confuse you and make you actually sound confused on the air.
And I know you don't want that.
So let me give out the numbers right now.
If you're here west of the Rockies, the magic portal number is 1-800-618-8255.
If you're east of the Rockies, big chunko people, 1-800-825-5033.
First time callers, we love you.
Area code 818-501-4721.
That's area 818-501-4721.
Wildcard line, folks.
Area code 818-501-4109.
And finally, if you're outside the country, yes, there is a way.
Get hold of your international operator and have her call 800-893-0903.
That's 800-893-0903.
All right.
We humans have been trying to figure out how we'll be affected by global warming.
We realize that other species, such as penguins, polar bears, and such, are vulnerable, but something we rarely notice, coral, may perish in warmer waters, and this will affect the fish we humans eat.
While humans can survive large temperature fluctuations, corals are only comfortable within about a 12-degree temperature range, and rising global temperatures appear to be threatening their very survival.
Coral.
So like the bees, coral at some level is very important.
According to biologist Drew Harvel, the warm temperatures that have been occurring worldwide as a result of global warming appear to be now creating fatal epidemics in coral reefs all around the globe.
In the Independent, Steve Connor points out that tropical coral reefs are the places where fish congregate.
Many of these fish are fish that people worldwide depend on for food.
More than half these reefs are becoming degraded beyond repair.
According to Connor, it would take an additional area of coral four times, it says, the size of the Great Barrier Reef, the biggest system in the world to sustain current fishing levels.
So think about it a little bit.
The honeybees disappearing.
I had a caller who said they were raptured, which I've sort of grabbed onto.
I like that.
That takes care of an awful lot of the food on land, and if the coral and other sea things just die, these dead areas in the ocean continue, we really will have a pretty significant food problem soon.
Well, that climate study I told you about came out, but it did not come out untouched.
They were fighting about the language.
In other words, for example, how many people really will be affected?
How many millions of people?
Well, they were going to actually say how many millions at 120 million.
Or hundreds of millions.
But they changed that.
They changed a whole lot of it.
Scientists actually managed to get the last word, but they changed a lot of it.
Some of the highlights, more than one-sixth of the world's population live in glacier or snowmelt river basins and will be affected by a decrease of water volume.
And depending on how much fossil fuels are burned in the future, 262 to 983 million people are likely to move into the water stress category by, here we go, 2050.
Global warming could increase the number of hungry people in the world in 2080 by anywhere between 140 million and 1 billion, depending on how much greenhouse gas is emitted over the next few decades.
Overall, a two to threefold increase of population to be flooded expected by 2080.
Malaria, diarrhea diseases, dengue fever, tick-borne diseases, heat-related deaths will all rise with global warming.
But in the United Kingdom, the drop in cold-related deaths will be bigger than the increase in heat stroke-related deaths.
In eastern North America, depending on fossil fuel emissions, smog will increase, and there'd be a 4.5% increase in smog-related deaths because global warming will, of course, hurt the poor more.
There'll be more social equality concerns and pressure for governments to do more.
Lake Superior's warming is accelerating.
Yeah, that's right.
Lake Superior.
Past generation Lake Superior has been warming even faster than the climate around it, according to a new study.
Attributed to reduced ice cover because of milder winters, the warming has caused the lake's summer season to begin about two weeks earlier than it did 27 years ago.
It is, said Jay Austin, assistant professor with Large Lakes Observatory and the Department of Physics at UMD, quote, a remarkably rapid rate of change.
So no matter where you look, the environment seems to be morphing around us or under our feet, however you want to think about it.
I claim the Fifth Amendment against protecting myself and self-incrimination, something like that, right?
What a question to call up and ask somebody on the air.
Good heavens to Betsy from the high desert and the great American Southwest.
I'm Art Bell.
From Whitley Striver's Unknown Country, cars that fix their own dents are on the way.
Now, this surely must be from the Roswell crash, right?
Wouldn't it be great?
Well, actually, it's going to be great because it's actually coming.
We're going to have cars that when you have a fender bender, simply snap back into shape.
So I guess no getting out and yelling.
All you do is get out and look, make sure it's snapped back into shape and drive away.
No more insurance companies, no more overcharging for re-bending the metal the way it ought to be.
Wouldn't that be really spiffy?
Whole thing is done at the cellular level, I guess.
And it'll be coming in the next few years.
So look for it.
I bet.
I bet you it came from Roswell.
Back with all of you and unscreened open lines in a moment.
Top of the hour, Todd's standing, and we're going to be talking about Bigfoot, one of my favorite topics.
Listen, this is sort of interesting.
Jerry in McCook, Nebraska says, hey, Art, what if the bees are just rebelling?
What if they're sick of it all?
What if they've moved their colonies into the wild like the song says, take this job and what if the bees are smart and just got tired of working for us?
And I went to his trailer here, and he promotes it as being a documentary, correct?
But when you went to it, it started off showing the footage and showing the Bigfoot and all that.
And then all of a sudden, it morphed into this Blur Witch Project movie.
Like, I think he's a hoaxer personally because his documentary morphed into a movie about these happy-go-lucky 20s-nothing teams that went into the woods and got lost.
And then a big boat was chasing them or something like that.
Responsible for the website Chronicles and mini-documentary entitled Svanic.
The past three years, he and his team have been struggling to prove one of the most controversial anthropological issues in the history of North America, the discovery of Bigfoot.
Well, he's done very serious research, so I don't know what he's done to promote his work, but we'll find out.
We'll ask him.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
He's serious research, so I'll be having an answer.
Anyway, I wanted to tell you a really cute bee story, but first of all, I just want to say that I love the bees very much, and I'm very sad that they're kind of going away.
And I've noticed this for the past, oh, three or four years or so.
And what I always do is go out to the flowers, and I coax them onto my hands, and they walk around my fingers and on my hands.
In other words, you're claiming the bees know that you're a loving, you love bees, and so they treat you accordingly.
unidentified
I love bees so much that I would love to go to a beekeeper's farm and ask him if he could just put something over my eyes and my nose and just so I don't inhale anything, you know, and have them.
But anyway, so when you told that story, or you did not a story, but you said one night that you thought if the bees were dying, their little bee bodies would be laying with the little bee Legs up in the air.
I mean, it was a, you know, that was sort of a form of speech.
unidentified
And anyway, I left my apartment the next day to go out, and just a few feet down the hallway, I thought what I saw was a spider laying there, black little thing, and kind of creaked me out for a minute.
But I looked a little closer, and there, guess what it was?
Yeah, okay, well, I found it in something and then went to the good old Wikipedia.
And it is, okay, a femtosecond.
In other words, a femtosecond is to a second what a second is to a hundred million years.
Wow.
Yeah.
And one of the great examples they give, 100 femtoseconds, for instance, if you're traveling at the speed of light, 100 femtoseconds is the time it takes you to cross a human hair.
And if you look it up in Wikipedia, their definition, it says one capital letter E-15 small S. I guess if you typed in femtosecond, they would take you to that.
But I think, and then underneath it is orders of magnitude by powers of seconds.
There had been some experimentation, especially with cornfields, using speakers and then using variable sounds at different frequencies to see how this would move the air and help pollinate.
With the bees going wherever they're going away, and with as much trouble as we are having with the world's oceans, in other words, no fish left in 50 years, if nothing changes, I mean, that's most of the world's food supply, isn't it?
That which is pollinated on land.
And then, of course, we've got sea, or do we?
unidentified
Yeah, that definitely is a major problem.
I live not too far from the Gulf Coast here.
I live in Louisiana, so I'm about 60 miles from the coast, and I've watched this happen through our marshes and everything.
If you go fishing and catch a bunch of fish, are you comfortable, completely comfortable, bringing them home and then eating them, or do you worry a little?
unidentified
No, actually, I feel fairly comfortable.
There have been certain areas that had been restricted in the past, like around in the Kakosho area around Lake Charles.
Below there, they had a lot of mercury contamination.
So crabs, shellfish, oysters, they monitored that quite close and they would put alerts out.
They kept that up there, but it's really cleared up tremendously.
But there have been other problems, too.
Of course, after Katrina, everybody was worried about the contamination in the marsh due to the oil and other chemicals that were dumped in there as to wondering how long that was going to take it before it started dispersing to be to safe levels.
But I haven't heard anything back that would say anything that was prohibitive.
Well, it's a worry because I just read a story, I think, the other day from the Philippines.
Philippine stories tend to catch my attention about quite a number of people who ate some fish that they caught there and got, actually, several died and many more got very ill, paralyzed from eating the fish, and of course it was contamination.
So I don't know.
Land and sea.
If you put them together, they supply a very great deal of the percentage of the food that we all eat.
Not a whole lot of time, but East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Going once.
Yes, hi.
unidentified
I was concerned about not only the disappearance of the bees, but the disappearance of our senior citizens, especially single ones That had been victimized by their families under the guise of helping and giving comfort and taking the power of attorney and taking their homes against their
I wish I had more time to devote to it, but we are dead right up against a break.
So perhaps another time you and I can have more of a discussion about that.
Actually, it is a big problem in the country from the high desert.
In a moment, we turn to Bigfoot with Todd Standing.
There is never going to be another ABBA.
My God, what a great group.
All these years have gone by, and we've never had anything even close.
All right, everybody, we're going to talk about Bigfoot coming right up.
Todd Standing is a documentarian responsible for the website Chronicles and mini-documentary entitled Slavanic.
That'll be www.slavanic.com.
And that's S-Y-L-V-A-N-I-C.
For the past three years, he and his team have been struggling to prove one of the most controversial anthropological issues in the history of North America, the discovery of Bigfoot.
Mr. Stanning has developed a rapport with several native cultures and documented the native legends and folklore associated with the Slavanic area.
He's led several expeditions into the Slavanic region, has recorded three compelling pieces of video evidence on the animals that inhabit the area.
This species has been mistakenly thought to have become extinct about 100,000 years ago, scientifically classified as gigantopicathus, I guess it is, but more commonly referred to as, of course, Bigfoot.
All of Todd's work is aimed at getting governmental legislated protection for this species before he proves their existence to all of us, the general public.
So in a moment, Todd Standing.
Well, all right, Todd Standing, welcome to Coast to Coast AM.
Well, I was always the guy who said, you know, told any of my friends, if you ever see a demon or a ghost, give me a call, because I know I went to university.
I know Harvard and Princeton, they have, even the Inquirer, they have million-dollar rewards for any proof of paranormal activity.
And I always said, if you ever find something, give me a call, because we'll be rich.
And actually, what happened was three years ago, a friend of mine was going just for a hike in this Sylvanic area, and his dog was killed.
And, you know, he's a friend of mine.
We're not into paranormal stuff at all.
And, you know, I believe in science and what is definitive and what I can prove.
And I just started investigating the region, and I started working with First Nations people.
And through my website, I found a biologist who was a Bigfoot expert.
And I never said Bigfoot the first year and a half of this.
I didn't believe in Bigfoot.
I had actually a hoax and mistaken identity theory that's on my website as well.
And it seemed like a very sound, solid theory.
And if you read it, it's something that it's almost hard for me to abandon because about a year and a half ago when I recorded video two and three in the Slovak region, I became a believer.
It's not even the videos that are evidence enough.
People can have videos.
Anytime somebody has a video, it can always be a man in a suit.
But it's everything else that I saw and witnessed that really made me a believer.
It's actually my team and I refer to it as Giganopithecus.
It's a flesh and blood animal that really exists.
And once I show people how simple it is to realize the possibility of it, people will understand, well, why didn't we believe this the whole time?
Like, this is just, it's not even some big mythical thing.
It's just a species who just simply evades people, and they've been around since man came to the continent, most likely.
So Gigantopithecus, they actually have bones and fossils of that are in China and India, of a giant primate species that they consider to be most closely related to orangutans.
And they just came across the Barren Straits when humans migrated here, and they've been living here ever since.
Well, one would obviously be, you said they've evaded people.
How have they done that?
I mean, we are everywhere now.
We fly, we've got satellites roaming the skies, we've got so very much out there that it seems almost, especially something the size, the purported size of Bigfoot, how does it evade people?
Well, first thing I would say is when I took my little film on tour, I started meeting people that just come out of the woodwork that have had sightings.
And there really are thousands, possibly tens of thousands that have people that have sightings every year.
But from my knowledge, and precisely what I see is, and I'll say first and foremost, I only have knowledge of what I consider to be rocky mountain Bigfoot.
Whether they live in swamps or prairies and that kind of thing, I don't know how they would evade people if they live in those kind of areas.
But in the mountains, simply they're nocturnal.
They're active at night.
And during the day, when the main group sleeps, they have day watchers or sentinels as we call them that triangulate themselves in high vantage points in the mountains.
And simply when people come walking towards them, they see them, they go and alert the main group, and they move away.
It's certainly going to be more complicated than that.
But even let's say they have a sensory perception that's just as simple as we know snakes can see thermal, heat from a distance, and let's say they can see thermal at a distance of two kilometers.
So if you can see thermal at a distance of two kilometers, you have a vantage point, you want to evade people, no one's ever going to get close to a species like that, ever.
At least I wouldn't think so anyways.
And again, I have to assess too, my videos that I've shot, they weren't some fluke.
We went into the woods and, you know, boom, there was Bigfoot.
We had to really work very hard to counteract their evasive strategies they used to get these animals on film.
Well, initially, since we went on several expeditions, what we did is we figured out precisely where at least two of the day watchers positioned themselves.
And then what we did is we just kind of devised a counter strategy to get in behind a day watcher.
And then when the day watcher went back, by the time they were alerted to our presence, when the day watcher goes back to alert the main group, we would catch him running by.
We actually never got close enough to view a main group.
But that question has been brought up to me many times.
And actually, I've seen even their examples of just birds.
Birds, when you approach a nest, a bird will come and tweet at you and get you to follow it to get you away from the nest.
Well, that doesn't necessarily...
That's not intelligent, right?
It seems like a very smart thing to do, but it's just a bird, and that's just what he does to survive, and it's not really – And I believe the whole primate personhood issue, when applied to Bigfoot, I think they would actually satisfy the criteria for theory of mind, which has only, to date, been satisfied by human beings over four years old.
To say as intelligent as possibly somebody maybe five or six years old at this point.
My knowledge of them is so superficial, though.
When people ask me what they eat and what they do in groups and if they're rogue males, I don't have any knowledge of anything like that.
And that's the research that I'm working for that needs to be done.
So that's what our goal is, is to get all those kind of, I want to take Bigfoot out of the world of the paranormal and make it a reality, make it a real primate that really exists and is properly studied ethically.
Well, if you look at what we've done to this continent in the past 200 years, I think the answer becomes pretty obvious.
I mean, there used to be 200 million bison that roamed around this continent, and when railroads were built, people used to go by and just execute bison for absolutely no reason.
I think as human beings, I mean, I would view us as just horrible serial killers.
We haven't even, like with the First Nations people who have had a relationship with these animals and have had knowledge of them, we never even, most of us never really even developed a rapport with them to bridge the gap between us civilized people and these animals that are this, as the natives referred to them, boss or wild master of the wilderness.
Well, have the First Nations people, the Native Americans, as it were, been able to give you their version of what they think the social structure and capabilities of Bigfoot are?
I think for the most part, most of the First Nations people that I've dealt with, they have a very highly reverent spirituality associated with these species.
And I think that they've just known well enough that these animals are the boss.
They are the wilderness master.
And we just keep our distance.
We allow them their space, and they give us our space, and we coexist that way peacefully.
So there's a spiritual connection, but I really don't have significant knowledge of that at this point.
Well, it would just get species protection for them.
The first thing, I guess I have to back up a little bit.
The first thing I ever did when I came back with this evidence and I believed this species was real is I went to forestry officers and I went to scientists because I knew I had to keep my research site confidential because people will go out there and kill these animals.
They're worth millions.
So I went to forestry officers.
I went to government legislative bodies and they will do nothing to assist you.
They can't because a forestry officer is like a police officer.
And a police officer can't give you a ticket for wearing a seatbelt unless there's a seatbelt law.
And that's exactly the way forestry, because that's who I ideally would like to do this with.
They're forestry officers that have helicopters and thermal gear And the ability to do this, and they will do absolutely nothing to assist me.
So, once there's government legislative protection for this species, they have to do something because it's now law.
And once I can get them behind me, I mean, things will just start flowing like there's no new world.
But I want the forestry officers to help me prove these animals exist.
Well, let me ask you this: I have not yet seen your video, but if I were to be able to see your video, Todd, would it be conclusive evidence that this really is a creature?
Well, I guess no video would be conclusive evidence, but would I come away convinced that I'm looking at a real creature and not a guy in a suit?
When all the evidence comes out about my video three, which I haven't released yet, yeah, you'll believe, because now what's actually happened is we have this whole scientific body called kinetics, kineticists, who are experts on the physics of motion and what it takes, you know, how many newtons of force it takes to move a certain distance.
I had a kineticist analyze my video three.
And every time, again, when you watch a video, it's a man in a suit or it's a new species of primate because there's no other animal on the planet besides humans that are truly bipedal.
Everything else is a form of quadruped, even gorillas or knuckle walkers.
So when you watch this video, just as a layman, you'll look at it and you'll say, okay, that's obviously a bipedal animal.
It's running on two feet.
Well, this kineticist, when he first saw my information, he said, okay, well, I'll analyze this man.
When he came back, he said, that's not a man.
And I said, well, what do you know?
He said, well, because in my analysis, the fastest man on the planet could not have done that in 24 seconds.
And I just saw that animal do it in 17 seconds.
So he phoned Fava, who had my video analyzed, and they said, that's raw footage.
There's nothing, no augmentation of any kind.
If that's raw footage, if that is a man-in-a-suit, he ran it faster than the fastest man on the planet could have.
Therefore, it takes out the whole man-in-a-suit thing.
Which you would think is very exciting and just great information.
But to me, I'm beyond that.
Like, I'm looking for a new domicile.
I'm going to go shoot another video.
I'm going to get more physical evidence.
I'm going to get protection for the species.
I need scientists involved to assist me in different areas of their specialty fields.
And I'm just going to keep going forward with this.
Video 3 is significant evidence.
And once I get a kineticist to come forward and speak in my documentary, that'll be very significant.
No, and the reason I've kept that to myself is because my website has generated virtually no petition signatures, maybe 100.
When I go and have a showing, people come out to watch Video 3.
And when they come out, they sign my petition, and I've got thousands of signatures to that effect.
And even still, beyond that, I'm also able to generate revenue for local humane societies, local animal rights activists, and I give all the proceeds to them.
So if anybody's going to profit from the Bigfoot video, in my opinion, I want it to be the species themselves.
And that's why I've kept the video for that reason.
Well, is Video 3 sufficiently compelling with the testimony, for example, of the man who examined it, as you just explained, to get this legislation through?
The politicians at this point are not very agreeable to concur with my findings at this point.
So what my next goal is, if I can't get petitioned at this point, is I'm going to go, when I locate a new domicile, I'm going to go with a very skeptical Nobel Prize-winning anthropologist.
I'm going to take a big name media guy, someone from CNN and DC or CTV with me, someone who doesn't believe in Bigfoot.
They'll watch as I shoot another video in high definition this time, and they'll watch me gather whatever physical evidence I can.
And when I come back, and this Nobel Prize-winning anthropologist says, I believe, I saw this guy do everything he did.
And when this news anchor from a television network comes with me and says, I believe too, because when they see what I've seen, they'll believe.
And with that evidence, I expect with that kind of notoriety, I will get protection for the species.
So you have no doubt in your mind that you can take a high-definition camcorder back into the woods, you know where to go and how to do it, and you can get some high-definition video and bring it back.
But I mean, for our own analysis and our own understanding of the species, Thermogear would help us understand what they're doing at night and if they are actually coming around and how they are manipulating and doing things.
Well, right now, the domicile that I had, the Slovanic region, has been infiltrated.
Bigfoot Kill Crazy people have discovered it.
They've gone in with guns.
I believe I've entirely lost that domicile.
However, with that being said, I have enough knowledge to identify another domicile.
And that's what I'm looking for right now, or that's what my team and I are searching for right now.
And as soon as we have that new domicile, we'll keep this secret.
We won't make the same mistakes we did before.
And we'll go in and we'll ethically go in and not disturb these animals.
We'll just get our video evidence, take only photographs, leave only footprints kind of thing.
Come back, use that to get protection for the species.
And these animals are not immortal.
They live and die like anything else.
With the proper time and the ethical studies, we can actually find a body that's died of natural causes.
Eventually, I will get a body, and I'll come back with the body, and then we can go through the whole scientific process properly without having killed one of these animals.
I would probably allocate that likely to a very significantly decreasing population.
Even the fossil records of Giganopithecus, they only have very limited fossil records, and these animals have been around for arguably 6 million years.
We've got plenty of time to explore this at our leisure, and you sound like somebody who knows what he's talking about.
Todd Standing is my guest.
We're talking about Bigfoot, and he's got a lot of new stuff in this area.
I'm Art Bell.
My guest is Todd Standing.
We're talking about Bigfoot.
Now, in all the years I've done interviews with Bigfoot investigators and one very special interview with a man who claimed he'd killed a couple.
I have come to believe that probably they do exist, apparently in very small numbers, but I think there is very good evidence, very good evidence, actually.
They do exist.
Not impeccable evidence, but very good evidence.
We'll continue with Todd in a moment.
Just one echo from the first hour, which is what I was about to say when my board op started World War III.
Kevin in Topeka, Kansas, referring to a couple of the callers in the first hour, said, why does God only talk to wackos?
And I thought about that.
And Kevin, you might want to consider at the same time why everybody who claims to talk to God is automatically branded a wacko.
I mean, what if God is chatting every now and then with somebody or another?
We automatically brand them all as wacko.
If they talk to God, they're wackos, right?
Be careful about that kind of stuff.
All right, back now to Todd Standing.
Todd, how many of these creatures do you think are still on Earth?
It was initially I was under the impression that it was entirely encircled by an unbroken chain of mountains with only a few entrance points, which is actually not the case.
There are several places you can get into, but the point was that there is a chain of mountains virtually all the way around it in different directions.
And the terrain to get into it is just extremely difficult.
Basically, now that the entranceway, there was a path under a mountain that I have listed on my website as well that you used to be able to get into.
Well, that's all caved in now.
So the only way, really accessible way to get in without going way out of your way or helicoptering in is to rock climb in.
Were there any evidence of, I don't know, food consumption or anything else you would look for in an area, for example, where somebody had been camping?
Actually, yeah, there was a shelter, a Bigfoot shelter.
There were a couple of things that we saw that were significant.
Other things I can't really reveal because they revealed that this is a Bigfoot domicile, and somebody coming along would identify that as a possible domicile.
But I sent you a Pressbook and an interactive CD with a ton of information on it.
And you'll see in there, there's some photographs of a shelter that were very significant to me because what happened was some animals took a big tree, bent it, and shoved it underneath a log, and then piled up branches on it.
Now, my crew and I were there, and we're looking at this log, and the three of us couldn't budget.
And the tree that was bent over, I mean, it had a base diameter of about eight inches.
So to grab this tree and bend it and shove it under a log, it just doesn't happen naturally.
And it would have taken a group of 10 men to lift that log.
And there are patches of earth here and there in the grounds.
Even there are trails, natural game trails, but those trails are significantly worn in.
You're not going to even get any kind of prints out of it, something like that, especially because Bigfoot has a big, huge foot.
He's not hooved.
He doesn't make those little indentations in it.
But when I was doing my research there at the time, our goal was to get video evidence because we were presenting that to a tranquilizer gun expert, an actual person who was a retired forestry officer.
And he said, if you can prove to me that you can repeatedly get within 50 yards of one of these animals, I'll go back with you and I'll tranquilize one.
And that was our goal, and that's entirely what we were focused on.
And when we were there, too, the reality of it is it rains a lot in the mountains.
So you're looking for other kinds of evidence and you're dealing with weather and you're trying to survive.
Because it takes a tremendous amount of effort to get out there with food.
And it's terrifying as well, especially at night when these animals are active and you realize these are unpredictable species you know nothing about.
So we really focused on getting our video proof just to show the tranquilizer expert and that's what we came back with.
So for us, it was a success just to even have that much.
If you did anything, if you were to go and tranquilize one of these animals, animals don't see tranquilizer, they don't know the difference between a tranquilizer gun and a regular gun.
And if you drop one of their own kind in a community of animals that are peaceful and harmonious, but they will defend themselves if they're attacked.
If you go and throw a net over one of these animals, other animals are going to come out of the woodwork.
And again, peaceful animals, but if you attack them, if you're trying to steal them away and put them into slavery into a zoo, they're going to violently defend themselves like any animal would do.
And that's something else I'd like to tell the people is don't try to do that.
Don't try to tranquilize one of them.
Because as the First Nations people put it, you'd take your last breath.
You're taking on an animal who's very familiar with its habitat, who is a master of the wilderness, who is twice the size of a gorilla and probably twice as strong.
And you go and you tranquilize one of those animals, and I'm telling people, they live in communities like virtually all primates do.
They evade people in communities.
If you tranquilize or you try to harm one of these animals, which has probably happened in the past, if you actually know about the Ape Canyon story, you go to kill one of these animals, they will come back and they will defend themselves.
Well, Tom, I have heard a number of stories of people having, you know, being under attack, stones thrown and terrorized during the night, that kind of thing.
But most likely in those cases, in my experience, I would say that they had done something to provoke the animals because I was in a domicile, and although they were prevalent in the area, they did nothing to harm me.
I was in their home, in their habitat, and they did absolutely nothing.
They acted in no way violent towards me.
And they could have.
If they would have perceived me pointing a camera at them as a gun, they could have injured me.
And that never happened.
They never attacked or harmed me or my crew in any way.
And even I've heard from forestry officers, they've asked me not to reveal the location because they just got the area under control because they had different groups of people out there with guns looking for something bipedal, which humans are.
So out there in camouflage, different peoples of people shooting at each other, it was just a big mess.
And even beyond that, other speculation and events that have possibly transpired out there that are really just, I just kind of have to go on with my next thing and learn from all the mistakes that were made and make sure they don't happen again.
Well, obviously if a Bigfoot, and they are big, is coming after you, if you have a gun, if you don't have a gun, you're going to die, as you just mentioned.
If it wants to kill you, you're going to be dead.
If you've got a gun, then you're going to have to defend yourself.
If that accident ever occurs or some situation transpires where one has to be killed, let's take the body, let's prove it to science.
Once we have a body, I can get protection for the species because obviously they exist.
And then I can make my findings public.
Something that you mentioned in the beginning of the show was I wasn't going to reveal my findings until there was protection.
But I would reveal my findings if I found a body.
I mean, that's something I'm looking for.
But worst case scenario, I know what I can do.
I know I can get within 50 yards.
I know I can get in there's video evidence.
And I can make my findings public once there's protection for the species.
Anything else would be totally irresponsible.
I mean, as you can imagine, Art.
People are, you know, this is like treasure.
Killing one of these animals would make you famous and rich overnight.
And there's absolutely no protection for them.
If you could assassinate a whole domicile, and there'd be no ramifications whatsoever, you could drive right across the American-Canadian border having these animals hung upside down, and nobody could do anything.
Because as far as they're concerned, those animals don't exist.
There's no, if you talk to any, even a forestry officer in the United States told me, he said, you know, there are species of animal that you're allowed to kill.
you're allowed to kill crows, for example.
He said, I, as a forestry officer, would sit there and watch you execute crows all day.
And those are species that are proven and known to exist.
He said, if you kill, somebody could walk by with a truck full of Bigfoot, I'd just have to shake his hand and tell him to be on his way.
Unless there's some sort of biological concern concern.
Other than that, there's absolutely nothing.
This is not a species that's proven to exist, and there can be no legal ramifications whatsoever.
And I know this because I've fought to get forestry officers to help me.
And I've been to every branch in Canada and the U.S., and I've talked to these people, and they say there's nothing we can do because they don't exist.
Nothing.
In fact, that's kind of the sorry state of things, is that the discovery of this species is entirely up to private citizens.
No branch of government will do anything to assist you.
Except, of course, a branch of government that wants it for whatever reasons because it would have a super soldier or some sensory perception that they might have.
But there's really nothing but private citizens to make this discovery.
You're probably aware of, I can't think of his name, but there is a professor at a university in Washington who is urging that somebody shoot and kill a Bigfoot so that we can do exactly what you want to do.
Because of my knowledge of them being so socially orientated, I think if you killed one of these animals, I don't think you would survive.
I think people have tried to kill one of these animals.
I've heard stories, and I actually have documentation about people that have even either tried to or killed one of these animals, and they don't survive, period.
You're risking your life.
It's just like, it would be like the First Nations people explained it.
It's like killing a grizzly bear cub.
What are you going to do except when 10 moms come back?
They've evaded people in social groups, this much I'm certain of, and they will stand together in a social group.
If you go out and you try to kill one of these animals, which has probably been done before, you will not survive, period.
Can you seen gorillas in the mist where they have those gorillas come charging at you?
They do their bluff charges.
Can you imagine an animal two to three times that size, two to three times as powerful, and a group of them coming at you?
I don't want to be there when that happens.
And I'm telling people, that's what's going to happen here.
This is a species that survives in social groups.
Go ahead, try to kill one, see what happens to you.
I think if somebody came across remains of a Bigfoot, they wouldn't know what to do with it anyways.
Unless you're a primatologist or you have some thorough knowledge of anatomy, you could come across a leg bone and just think it's from an elk.
Somebody could have one of these bones in their house and not even know it.
So I have forestry officers that have come across stuff and they didn't know what the heck it was.
But even besides that, when you talk about bones, Dr. Grover Krantz, who was a Bigfoot expert, did his own little survey for the decade of studies that he did.
He asked hunters, how many bear bones have you seen?
How many cougar bones have you seen?
And he came up with zero.
And I've been doing that study myself.
I've never met anybody who's seen bear bones or cougar bones out in the wilderness because, I mean, we have porcupines out there.
And I don't want to be a flash in the pan kind of guy that just is the video of the week.
People are really interested in Bigfoot, if this is a real thing for them, they can come out when I bring my film to their city if I can, and they can view it that way.
And again, I get my...
That's it.
That's all I'll use it for.
Because when you give it to the media, they're going to profit by it.
People are going to be watching their shows and whatnot.
And the only people, the only species that I want to profit from this video is Bigfoot.
But on the other hand, though, you do say that you've got people willing to testify that what they're seeing is a real thing, that a man in a suit couldn't do what you've got on video.
Actually, I've had those interviews with people, but now what I've learned about documentary filmmaking is nobody's willing to actually appear on camera and be part of the documentary.
This kineticist has tenure with the post-secondary institution.
So for him to come and speak in my documentary, I have to get permission from this post-secondary institution.
And they've refused to be affiliated with Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny or Bigfoot.
And it's been tremendously difficult, even for me to get forestry officers who have very prudent information to speak in my documentary.
They can't because they'll lose their jobs.
And it becomes this whole other issue that I have to deal with.
And it's made things very, very difficult for me.
So if there's a kineticist out there who is willing to come forward and I'll come and show you the video if you're willing to buck up and come on my documentary.
And something that I've already told people as well is I'm not about legal agreements.
If you don't want to be, if I film you and put you in my documentary and you don't like it, I'll take you out.
I'm not going to hold you in anything.
I'm just kind of operating on that kind of integrity.
Giganopithecus, which is a very well-known and somewhat documented species, it's closely related to the pango genome, which is closely related to the orangutans.
Again, currently scientifically classified as that.
And they even have, to the point where they actually have a very good idea of what the species, when it existed in China, ate, because they've scoped the molars that they found, and they found that bamboo and fruits and nuts have been associated with those molars.
So really, but even though science will say the species exists, it's really almost laughable that they're saying this primate species existed when they have nothing more than teeth and a lower jawbone.
They don't have an upper jawbone.
They don't have a skull.
They don't have a leg.
They don't have anything.
They have no feet, no back, no spine, no nothing.
Only teeth and jawbones.
Even the one that's the famous, There's a famous photograph of Gigantopithecus.
They extrapolate all that information from teeth and a lower jawbone.
But with that being said, science has enough knowledge about primatology where they can deduce that the species was significantly bigger than gorillas and that they actually existed, that it is a primate.
And you just look up, it's gigantopithecus, specifically Giganopithecus blacky and gigantopithecus giganopithecus, which was in India.
And I just, it actually is, it's comical to me to think that, like, they'll say, okay, this species, it couldn't have survived because they ate the same food as a panda or a gorilla.
Well, pandas are still alive.
Why do you think this species would be extinct?
Or because it was a primate.
Well, primates are more adept at surviving than bears are, significantly.
When you talk about gorillas, they have the ability to eat more kinds of food and vegetation.
They have hands and they can dig.
They're just far more adept to survive, especially since they almost always live in communities.
So, you know, pandas survived.
Why can't they get an epithecus?
And then people say, well, there's no, you know, they couldn't possibly exist because we didn't know about it.
They find five new species of primate every year.
I was all stunned about four years ago when they found this new species of primate.
And then I talked to a biologist and he said, they find new species of primate like five, six a year.
The giant squid was a myth until, what, six months ago?
That's right.
And the sightings of giant squids were rare, far and few between.
When you talk about Bigfoot, there are thousands of sightings reported every year.
And I'll tell you, the majority of people, they don't even report a sighting.
And they talk about the quote-unquote wackos, I hate using that term, that report this.
The heck with that.
There are doctors, lawyers, judges.
There's an ex-president of the United States that believed this species existed.
These aren't wackos, unless, you know, it just, these are real people, credible human beings, that there's no chance they saw a bear or an elk or whatever.
They weren't hallucinating.
These are real people that have had real sightings and mostly likely not to come forward because, you know, you get ostracized from the community when you come forward and you say, hey, I saw a Bigfoot, and everybody thinks you're crazy after that.
They label you the wacko.
And I have that come in in my documentary right away.
A group of gentlemen who were respected in the community, and after they came forward with their Bigfoot sighting, they were ostracized entirely.
And this is people who love their community and really respected the fact that they had friends and family and deep roots in that community.
They were ostracized.
It was sad, but that's the reality of the way we are socially at times.
Well, report it, report it, report it to Bigfoot websites, people that are already believers.
And that's actually the only way you can report it anyway.
If you phone the forestry office, they'll hang up on you.
If you call a radio station or media, if there's something bigger going on, they're not going to cover you.
And most of the time, they'll laugh at you and they'll do a crazy story about this crazy guy and they'll just be for a big chuckle, right?
They usually won't really take you seriously.
Just talk to people that believe.
And I don't want to say especially with me, always communicate with all.
I support every Bigfoot non-kill organization out there.
But for me, I really need the information because I'm going to get protection for the species and I'm going to take this the paranormal and that's what I believe these people want me to do.
That's why you report things because you want recognition for the species.
And if you believe the species exists, please do take it.
My petition is free.
You just rip it off my website, you download it, and for the cost of a stamp, you send it to my post office box, and I will bring it to Parliament.
I've already done it in Canada, and I'm going to do it in the U.S. And I will not stop until protection for the species is done or until I conclusively proven they exist.
Now there is, before there was nothing you can do, to my knowledge anyways.
Now there is.
You can stand up and you can make a difference.
And at the very least, I'm just going to blow people away with what I can do and all the knowledge that I have.
Well, I've heard them, and I've heard them online and in TV shows.
I've never, in real life, no.
I mean, again, it goes back to me.
This is the most evasive, elusive species on the planet.
They're going to do everything they can to hide.
This is probably extenuating circumstances where they're mating calls or, you know, there are certain times of year when elk make a lot of sound, but that's just not very often going to happen.
Because elk, you know, if they went around making lots of sounds, they're not going to survive.
Animals are going to detect them.
So the most evasive species on the planet, which I consider Bigfoot to be, the majority of, I mean, I haven't had a lot of experiences with them, and I've never heard them make any kinds of sounds whatsoever.
Even actually the profound odor, which is very significant evidence, even across the First Nations people.
And I never really had a profound odor.
There was one of my team said he smelled something at one point, but I mean, I was within 50 yards of one of these animals, and I never smelled anything.
But that could be attributed to the fact that they're in the mountains, brilliantly crystal-clear water, you know, that they can survive in.
They fish in that.
And it's probably just, you know, in that particular, like, if you're going to see a Sasquatch in the swamps, I bet you he's going to smell awful because he's lurking around in murky, nasty swamp water.
But Rocky Mountain Bigfoot, nothing significant for odor that I've ever discussed or ever taken note of to point to.
Well, my team, my other two members, I have a paramedic and a biologist from Calgary and a biologist from Great Falls, Montana.
They are going out on an expedition next weekend, and they're going to continue to search.
They're really looking for a needle in the haystack when you're looking for a bigfoot domicile.
The difference with us is we know what the needle looks like.
Everybody else is just looking through a haystack and they have no idea what they're looking for.
So we are very, very, and it's an exciting time for us because I think we have some really good leads, have some very, I guess you could call them hot spots.
And I think, you know, as soon as we're able to recognize a domicile, I want to get that team together and make that highly, the exhibition will be highly publicized when we come back.
I'm going to be very secretive about it as much as I can, but when I come back and I have the video evidence, I'll make it public because I want to get protection for the species and I want to have this taken out of the realm of paranormal and make it a reality.
There's even video evidence, and I just, I can never 100% rule things out because there's always, like when I see the Patterson film, the first thing I like to analyze is what were the circumstances?
And Patterson was coming along a rocky area on horses.
And now the most evasive animal on the planet is in an open space.
He certainly, or she certainly would have heard you coming, and she did nothing.
She kind of had a drink out of the creek.
This is, again, my very loosely based analysis of it.
But then when you look at these experts that are looking at the film and the detailed studies of, you know, there's no kinks in the suit.
It's a brilliantly put together suit.
And Patterson did that back in 1967.
As much as I'd like to say, it just seems like impossible for somebody to come along and fluke out like that.
When you look at how strong the evidence of the animal is, it's very compelling.
And I've even heard the gentleman speak who says he was in the suit, and a gentleman who said he sold the suit to Patterson.
And again, it's just their testimony.
They have no evidence to solidify their opinions.
But the Patterson film is still tremendous evidence to me.
If Patterson did hoax it, the reason hasn't come forth that it was a hoax because he did more than get extremely lucky.
I get very passionate about it, and I really, really, it's just when you get out there and you see it, and it's so exciting, it's so thrilling because the most man-like species on the planet is real, and it really exists, and it's a thrilling experience.
As terrifying as it is, it's thrilling.
But at the same time, I feel like I have an enormous responsibility on my shoulders.
And something I tell people, too, is I'm also prepared to, if I can never get protection for the species, and I feel that our work is leading to what may be detrimental for the species, I will drop all my research and I'll walk away.
The reason I'm doing this is I believe there is a way that we can peacefully coexist with these animals.
I really, really believe that.
Because another thing I will tell you is there are a lot of people that know these animals exist, a lot.
But people that have had wisdom enough to understand these animals exist have had wisdom enough to understand they should be left alone.
And that's the difference with me is I believe there is a compromise.
And if I don't believe that compromise can exist, I'll feel very poorly about my own species and I'll drop all the work and walk away.
But at least I'll know at the end of the day I did the best I could.
Yeah, and if new, like every day things change with me and I learn new things every day, and if I ever learn that I'm somehow leading or going down a path that'll cause the eradication of the species, I will drop my work.
I'll burn everything I have and I'll walk away from it all.
Because it's not about my notoriety.
It's about the notoriety of the species and proving, even just to my children that I'll have someday, that we are good enough, civilized man is advanced enough to find a way to peacefully coexist with these animals, period.
Again, it's so hard for me to give up my skepticism, but if I've been fooled and the First Nations have been fooled, then it goes back like this hoax is just bigger than anything that I could ever possibly imagine.
So I have to say that as skeptical as I like to be, and I never, there is no 100% with anything.
You know, we could be, so many things could be deceived, so many things can be pulled over our eyes.
But I would say that, God, I'm 99.9% sure that these animals are absolutely real, and I believe.
And you know what?
That's a lie.
I'm 100% sure.
After what I've experienced, even beyond what I can tell the public, from what I've seen, this is just, there's no way.
In fact, I'm going to open the lines here in just a moment.
Todd Standing is my guest.
Very convincing.
I'm Art Bell.
Well, I'm certainly not an impeccable judge of character.
But, you know, as I listen to Todd Standing, I hear a passionate, honest man with a mission.
I hear a man who believes what he's saying.
And I think that everything he's told us probably is going to stand up to scrutiny.
Now, that said, what I'd like to do is give a preference to any of you out there who have had a sighting, any of you who have had an encounter, and of course, any of you who have serious, important questions for Todd Stanning.
I think it's a good idea at this point to open lines.
But with what I've heard so far, I'd certainly give it an A. I'd give Todd an A. I'm Arbell.
We'll get back to, well, actually, Todd and your questions in a moment.
I have no idea whether this message that I have is real or not.
But I actually have a message from Bugs, purporting to be Bugs from Texas, and I won't say where.
And he supplies me with a phone number.
Now, in the old days, I could just pick up a phone here and put them on the air.
I don't have the luxury to do that.
So what we'll have to do is in the next break, I'll pass the phone number on and have Bugs called.
So Bugs don't go to sleep.
I'm sure you won't.
We'll get to you in the next segment.
In the meantime, Todd, I'd like to bring some people on and see what they have to say to you.
This would be Billy in Somerville, South Carolina.
You're on with Todd Stanning, Billy.
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Hi, Mr. Art and Mr. Todd.
I've been a big fan of the show, and I remember a previous show, Mr. Art, where you brought in a guest who spoke of the Nephilim.
And putting it together, it seems to me as though these creatures are intelligent and have the almost supernatural ability to detect humans before we detect them and to disappear from us.
And I'm wondering if these could be some kind of a branch of the Nephilim.
We know we've found skeletons in various places of creatures that are massive.
And also in Wyoming, I've seen medicine wheels, which I spoke to some Indians there, and they told me that those wheels have been there before their people even got to the land.
And so there's all kinds of signs of intelligence.
And I was just wondering how you'd respond if this could be a branch of the Nephilim or something like this.
So sort of in the paranormal realm, I guess, in a sense.
And there are a lot of people, of course, Todd, who do tend to think they're in the paranormal realm because there are so many reports of them simply vanishing.
And actually, I have a response to their vanishing ability.
I think that, again, goes back to the ability that they're social animals and they stick together.
When an animal, for example, I believe that an animal that I saw was in an area where it couldn't escape.
It was trapped.
And I believe what happened was another animal from above reached over, bent the tree down, broke the tree, handed the tree to the animal, and then the animal grabbed the tree and he lifted him up.
And when I came there, it looks like the animal disappeared.
Well, he didn't disappear.
It wasn't supernatural.
Simply another animal handed him down this huge log and removed the log after.
And I have no knowledge of what happened.
So that's not supernatural.
That's just being a social creature.
And having, it's not even some kind of huge intellectual thing.
It's just being smart enough to know your surroundings and how to evade people because that's what they do.
Apparently in the late 50s, there was a man who was a wealthy oil man, and his name was Tom Slick.
And he funded missions to the Himalayas to investigate Yeti.
And in 59, apparently they found some feces, which were analyzed by Bernard Huhlmann, a big biologist, who said that since each animal has its own parasites, they're species-specific, and this host animal was an equally unknown animal.
Do you know about this, and have you ever found anything that you could analyze?
Yeah, well, I know about there's been DNA analyzed by Harvard, who has some sort of unknown species that was from China, which is most likely the Yeti.
But that just really, it really wasn't our goal when we were out on our expeditions to get, because the hairs have been done.
The hairs are there.
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I'm not gonna even, even, I'm thinking when you come face-to-face And nose-to-nose with these bureaucratic-minded people who want to give validity, or maybe don't actually want to give validity, if you had one more thing that actually you could see under a microscope.
I have my own nonprofit and spent a fortune suing government agencies, and I've dealt with a lot of people who have what I call the pseudo-altruistic exploitation syndrome.
They put on this big face and they act like they want to do all these wondrous things for the animals.
But deep down inside of it, it's just something to get them exposure on radio stations and TV.
Now, you said a couple things.
One, you said you'd quit your work if you were 99% sure it would harm the animals.
And then, two, you said something to the effect that people are the worst thing, worst enemies these animals have.
Well, that's my bird, sorry.
I also have about 15 cats.
But anyway, if these animals have been around for 40, 50 plus years, which is probably longer, and I believe they exist, what makes you think that they need protection from us?
That is absolutely correct, and that's what zoologists and veterinarians have been telling me.
And that's another reason why, you know, when you tranquilize one of these animals without knowing about their metabolism, you probably would kill them, it's most likely, because we just know nothing about the species, so you're absolutely right.
And I am strongly against capturing them or tranquilizing them in any way.
But your question, you were getting onto something really good there.
Why do I believe that a species that has survived for this long needs protection?
Because I believe they need our help to survive.
I believe that their habitat is virtually gone.
You know what?
And I also believe more truth about what's going on.
I also believe that there's a strong possibility that the discovery has been made and that the animals have a specialized sensory perception and they'll be eradicated to ensure that that sensory perception remains in the hands of the people that have just made this discovery.
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I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with that conclusion.
I think the animals have avoided us, and I think they wish to continue to do so.
And I think any pressure you put on their civilization populations is going to make it more difficult for them and stress the population out even further.
That is an absolute possibility that we can even, as humanity, we can benefit from their knowledge and their understanding because they have coexisted harmoniously in nature and we have not.
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But there's a reason they haven't exposed themselves to us, obviously.
And that's why I've said that I really need to take time, and if I'm going to ethically do this, it's not going to be something that happens overnight.
I need to find scientists that are of like-minded thinking as I am and slowly, step-by-step, earn a respect and a trust with people that are going to help me make this discovery.
And again, at any time, if I believe that it's going to cause detriment to the species, I have to walk away.
So I believe ultimately that this discovery will benefit both of our species.
And that's why I'm so fortified in protection first, so fortified in that.
That is absolutely not even a negotiation.
If people are going to make me believe that they can coexist with this species, they have to help me get protection for them.
If I'm unsuccessful with that, if people don't care, if this is just not going to be something that people are going to help me with, then the naysayers are right.
And I believe we're not ready for this discovery, and I have to walk away from it.
I used to track Bigfoot in the Cascades, and they're an interesting breed.
I don't know anything about the Rocky Mountains because I didn't grow up there, and I didn't track any there.
But I know a lot about them, and you sound like you do know some things here.
You know, as you said a little bit earlier, you hear the scream tapes and the people that say, oh, you smell them five miles before they get there and all that.
Right then, I know they have no clue what they're talking about, and it's a joke, you know.
But anyway, I did really get into it.
I got good at it.
I grew up with them.
It was passed on from my family and a couple neighbors, friends.
But when we became teenagers, of course, you get out on your own as a teenager and you start doing things when your folks aren't around and using their knowledge and expanding upon it.
And, of course, as a teenager would, we tried a lot of things and did a lot of things and learned a lot of things.
But the bottom line was I quit.
And I quit for one reason and one reason only.
And that's because they're dying anyway.
They're going, they're gone.
I can't believe there's any.
20 years ago, I would have sworn you wouldn't find one right now.
And I always hoped I was wrong.
But I don't think they're long for this world without us messing with them.
And when we start messing with them and we tell the wrong person the wrong thing at the wrong time, you're going to find people in there.
I mean, I'm serious.
There are people, they will go in with AK-47s, a whole bunch of them to find them.
And it's scary.
And it reminds me, just like the gorilla, they're still hunting them down to chop off their hands and feet.
And we've got people in there with AK-47s trying to protect them.
And what you're talking about, trying to get help with protection, it's been tried before, the state of Washington, the state of Oregon.
The bottom line is the way our society works, especially here in the United States, is what you're saying would happen, but it would happen once it's already too late.
Everything's in motion.
What little bit is left for them would be gone by the time you got any protection.
And once you did get protection, you couldn't get the monies to get people up there, enough people to protect them as the gorillas are going through now from the people who just don't care.
They're just going to kill.
And it's sad.
But I had to call.
I'm a first-time caller art, and I like your program, and I hear a lot of interesting things.
But I am here to tell you, I do know they exist, and I hope they still exist.
But I haven't seen one in 20 years, and it's because I don't want to.
I haven't looked.
I stay as far away from those areas as I can now, and I hope everybody else does, too.
Yeah, the guy who says he actually had the costume, there were no breasts for the costume, so Patterson would have had to make those breasts.
But I'll tell you, there are gentlemen out there that have dedicated years of knowledge and understanding of the Patterson film, and they've gone through every iota of evidence, and it's brilliant, the work that they've done, which just sways me to believe that it's likely to be real because, while they've gone through every millimeter and iota of everything, it's brilliant the work that they've done.
It's very important.
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I did see that where somebody did, they did have a show where they tried To recreate that, and it didn't look very good to me at all.
And we were coming down this road heading south, and we wanted to come down by a creek, which I won't name at this point.
And there was a wheat field on the north side of this creek.
It ran about, it was about a quarter mile wide and about a mile long.
And before you got to the creek, there was a series of hills you had to go up and over.
And, you know, we travel about 10, maybe 15 miles an hour with our spotlights going back and forth looking for eyes.
And when we come up over this hill and our lights went down on this, on the wheat field, we seen a set of eyeballs.
So we immediately put the spotlights on it.
We drove on down, keeping it in sight, because at that point we was probably 350 yards from it.
We drove on down probably another 100, 150 yards, and we were straight almost north of it.
And Bird Dog jumped out and come across the cab with his rifle.
And he says to me, something to the effect, what the heck is that?
Well, immediately, Jim, he jumped out of the pickup, put his rifle on it, and I put mine on it.
And I said, I think it's a bear because it was squatted down out there in the middle of the wheat field.
And I said, let's kill it.
We all three fired at the same time.
It dropped.
We jacked another round in the chamber, each one of us, and it got up and took off running.
And we fired again, and it dropped again, and it ran and jumped over the fence, went down into the creek.
We didn't know what the heck it was at that point.
Didn't know if it was a bear or what, because it was running like a human.
We went down and played around, whatever, until it got light enough where we could see, and we went back down to the point where it jumped the fence and went into the creek.
And we could see blood drops.
We followed the blood drops up to a plum thicket, and we could hear a growling in there.
And nobody wanted to go into plum bushes to see what it was.
Me being young and dumb, having a 44 magnum pistol, I decided I'd go into plum bushes.
So I go in there.
I guess I was in all 15, 20, 30 feet, something like that.
And I still couldn't see anything.
And then all of a sudden, right in front of me, I could see this one creature down on the ground.
Another one was sitting there at its head.
It was growling at me.
And I had my 44 and it came up like it was coming toward me.
And I fired once.
It staggered.
I cocked the hammer again.
It came toward me again, or leaned like it was coming toward me again.
I fired again and over backwards it went and hit the ground.
And we got them out, looked at them, and Art, it scares me to this day still.
Yeah, we talked to, I think you had a chance to talk to an attorney, isn't that right?
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That's correct.
I talked to an attorney.
My wife didn't want me doing it because she, because the thing about it is the female breast and the female organs and the male organs and stuff, it was just, you know, it just, you can't understand it unless you can see it.
In the video one that I did shoot, although there was a lot of augmentation and stuff done to it, it's on the website still.
And if it's on Meta Cafe, it's my video, and I don't even have access to it.
But there's a sound of a growling sound that a lot of some that actually got me my biologist because that's the sound that a Bigfoot makes when it growls.
And you should ought to listen to that sound because it's very original.
It's sort of people have likened it to sort of a chainsaw, or it was like a ticking da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
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To be honest, Liki, I have never in my life heard that kind of growl before.
Now, I don't know what the conditions are like in Texas where you are, Bugs, but I wonder from both of you, what do you think the odds are, Bugs, that you could go back to that location, dig, and find remains that could yield DNA?
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100%.
I know the exact location.
And as far as I know, nobody's ever messed around it because there's only three people in the world, well, there's four now, my wife, five, counting you, Art, that knows the exact location of this.
Well, you know what I can say ultimately about this is perhaps it's a good thing that you didn't come forward ultimately because again, if there was conclusive proof that the species existed and people went back and figured out precisely what transpired that got you so close to the animals, you know, there's no protection for the species and it might have created this kill-crazy environment where people would, you know, start hunting them and find enough evidence to track them and start killing them.
And perhaps it's for the best because I do have time to try to ethically make this these animals a reality in the scientific community.
But with that being said, are people ready for it?
And I'm stepping forward very slowly, but it's perhaps for the best that your discovery wasn't made public at that time because maybe people just weren't ready for it, you know?
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Well, the only person that I've ever told the location and stuff, like it's my wife, these two guys that was with me, and Art.
And, you know, people know it's a Texas panhandle.
They don't know we're in a Texas panhandle.
But this particular creek or river or whatever, it runs to the Rockies.
And as far as the stink, I never smelt any stink.
I smelt a lot of blood during that time.
You know, I hear a lot of people talk about how they stink like skunks.
I would say even to be put on the spot with facing a discovery of such magnitude at this point, that I'd really have to think about it and discuss it and take some time to really, because I mean, making this discovery at this point and having this much information, it's just tremendous.
And I don't even know precisely what I'd have to think on it and whatnot.
And I'll tell you what, Art, I'll get back to you in a few days with just a better deduction.
I know there's an archive.
People have told me about the original archive of the radio show that you did on this.
And I'll listen to it and I'll do a breakdown and I'll analyze it to the best of my ability and tell you what kind of conclusions I can do.
I mean, any primate species, you look at gorillas or chimpanzees, it's all going to be very significantly similar.
So, yeah, I would say a gluteus that just looks like, and that's what I've actually got, is what we call the ass shot.
And you see a clear set of glutes, you know, that don't even look so much like a gorilla anymore.
They look more human-like because these animals are so bipedal and upright that the similarities would just be exceptional, like he's speaking.
So, yeah, absolutely.
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Well, the only difference between them and a human is that in their facial areas, their forehead, like I said, was a little higher, and their mouth was kind of a prune mouth.
Their nose was a little bit pugged, and their eyes was basically about the same.
The subject is Bigfoot from the high desert and the great American Southwest.
I'm Art Bell.
Here I am.
Well, there you have it.
That's the bug story, as it were.
And I believe every word of it hasn't changed over the years.
Bug's a little older, aren't we all?
But the story has remained the same.
I believed it then.
I believe it now.
Todd is going to take a while, without question, to absorb all of this.
And we may have something on our hands here.
At any rate, we'll go back to Todd Stanning and your calls in a moment.
You know, I've received a number of very judgmental fast blasts from people hearing out of the blue the bug story that was just resounded on the radio.
And I know it's very easy to be judgmental when you hear something like that.
You're listening to a farmer, an older fellow now, who was a hunter, a serious hunter, in Texas back in the 70s.
It just nice, I think, that he feels some sympathy for what happened.
And it's events like that that I'd like to, by having a law to protect the species, you know, in future, it would just make it obvious for people that, you know, whatever you're seeing, you shouldn't be shooting at.
Don't start killing things.
Don't shoot first and ask questions later.
And I just help, I think that species protection would, even not just species protection specifically for Bigfoot, just if you see, if there's a new species or if you see something that you don't know, don't start shooting at it because that's just ignorant to me.
That's just ridiculous.
Don't do those kind of things because it's just it'll cause more harm than good in the end, ultimately.
Like male competition, possibly, because, I mean, that's very prominent in gorilla and chimpanzee society.
And honestly, just, and this is, I don't like to speculate a lot, but I really do think that this species is unique enough that I think that the communities really, really stand together.
I think the males generally stand together with their communities entirely.
And just from what I've seen in my very superficial empirical evidence, just seems to be that they don't seem to compete like that.
But even gorillas, young gorillas grow up, and until they decide that they want to breed with the females, they're perfectly happy and the grayback allows them to stay there and live there.
So I think these animals are a little beyond those kind of primates.
I think they're more of a community than even those primates are.
And that goes into my theory of mind speculation and whatnot as well.
So I don't think there's so much competition between males and females in these groups.
And I would say you're a testament to the probably ten times as many people that are out there that have had these kind of experiences.
And you don't want to be ostracized.
You don't want people to laugh at you because, you know what?
Honestly, that will happen.
People will joke about it.
You'll never hear the end of it.
You'll get the little Bigfoot things and people will laugh and joke about, you know, compare you to Do You Believe Neaster Bunny and Santa Claus and all that kind of stuff.
I'm kind of, when that happens, I just, it's water off a duck to me now.
It doesn't really bother me at all because there's so many great people in the past that have had big, huge scientific discoveries.
And you meet this kind of, I guess, friction from the community and this kind of chastisation.
But it's going to happen.
It goes with territory.
And I just, I'm not immune to it.
It does bother me at times.
But the majority of people that are believers and say, you know, you're doing a great job and I believe in what you're doing, it's those people that support me and help me that make me feel good about what I'm doing.
And you go up the hill, and I don't know if that's the San Gabriel Mountains or something.
It's been a while now, or just right at the foothill of the mountains there.
I think the Marx brothers used to own it or something.
I checked it out, did some internet research like the next day, and said that there's people that had seen Yetis and stuff up there.
But yeah, so I woke up and I was making contact with this, and I was inside sleeping on the couch, and it was looking in, like it was trying to check out, you know, we were new to the area.
So maybe he was trying to figure out, you know, what we were doing there, you know, new people in his area there, right?
So he just wanted to see what was going on.
So he came and checked it out, and like I said, I was squinting, and I was trying to see it, just terrified.
And after about, you know, 60 seconds, it just walked away, you know.
And I was up for the next four or five hours, terrified.
You know, I was on the couch.
I couldn't get off the couch until my brother woke up in the morning with me.
And, you know, I'm telling him the story.
And my sister said, you know, she's seen lots of weird stuff there.
And she has since moved from that house because there's so much kind of weird stuff going on around there.
So just kind of that was my encounter.
Like I said, it didn't look like a beast of any kind.
It looked like a native that was like 9 to 10 feet tall.
Todd, how many reports do you get of these creatures?
Certainly they stay away from civilization for the most part, but occasionally, I suppose, they brush up against it, or if something new is built, as was the case there, maybe they check it out.
The inquisitive, like, I would call that just an physical outlier where an animal is actually kind of making a contact.
And actually, there's a lot of people that claim to have a lot of prominent people in the community.
There's hundreds of people, especially when I get out there and I'm in the community and people watch me speak in front of my show and they listen to everything I have to say and they realize that this guy is passionate and he really believes in what he's doing.
And they'll come talk to me after, they'll confide in me.
And it really was huge.
I mean, hundreds of people will stay after and tell me stories and tell me about things.
And even when they start talking about themselves, all this comes out.
And, you know, it's a lot.
I think it's, I mean, there's no way to calculate how many people have actually had these sightings that have never come forward.
But I think it really is significant.
I don't think this is some elusive mystery.
And people say, well, how come there's never, you know, there's no proof?
Well, there's thousands of sightings reported.
And again, who knows how many people have actually had these sightings that just never come forward like that?
I just don't know how many people, Todd, you've had to have come actually face to face.
We had an experience, it's been almost 30 years ago, where, I mean, we were just, I jumped out of a car with a flashlight, and I'm standing face to face to this creature.
I don't know, about eight or nine foot tall.
I would say somewhere over seven foot.
But he was built like a human, covered in hair completely.
I didn't notice any odor or no noise.
It just, we startled him, and he was as startled, it seemed like, as much as we were.
This creature turned and ran off into the woods off the side of this little road where we were at.
We chased it, oh, I would say, 100 yards or so in the woods before we lost it.
But it was just an experience that I've told people about, and they think, you're crazy.
Looked into it a little deeper.
There was a sighting about a year prior to that in this same area by a Little Rock police officer and started doing some more digging, and there was another sighting prior to that.
So, I mean, there's something to it, and when you tell people about it, they think, well, you know, you're nuts.
And I was listening to the show, and I was just wanting to know where to get in touch with you.
I would like to hear more of what you've got to say.
Well, it's all, thank God for the internet, it's all sylvanic.com.
My website is everything.
And people that are trying to go on it right now, I know it's being bombarded.
I know it's moving.
It's not normally like that.
Just please be patient.
If you really have something to say, please take the time to, there'll be in the next couple days where it'll calm down a little bit, I think, and you can contact me.
And please do send me all the information you have because I want to hear everything.
And there's no piece of information that is not important with your experience.
I want to know about what you were feeling, about the way the wind, anything you can remember.
It's all very, very important.
There's a lot of investigation.
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Yeah, there's a lot of things I can tell you.
It's just don't have time to get into all of it on the show here.
And the location is probably the most important thing to divulge to me, because that's what I'm really working on is getting a hotspot and figuring out where a domicile is so I can make this discovery and find a new domicile.
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Well, I've heard other people mention similar things to this in this area over the last few years.
And, you know, kind of the same thing.
People think, well, they're nuts.
That's an impression you get from most people.
So I will get onto your website and send you some information.
I can't discount anything, but again, for me, it's just I look for really remote areas.
I look for Rocky Mountain because it's just such an easy way.
You don't leave tracks in the Rocky Mountains.
There's an abundance of food supply out there.
It's very inaccessible, and it's very easy to hide and evade people in those areas.
So I lean more towards those areas.
But not to say that someone asked me once how many places, like, is there anywhere left in North America that hasn't had a Bigfoot site?
And their answer is yes, Hawaii.
Everywhere else, there's been sightings in every province and every state.
And not just a couple, there's hundreds and thousands everywhere.
So, you know, it's a tremendous amount of information.
But I definitely lean towards Rocky Mountain because that's where my expertise lies.
I wouldn't even know the first thing to do.
There was a big thing going on in Texas just a couple weeks ago, and I wouldn't even know the first thing how to track one of these species in a swamp.
You know, there's so many, I know precisely what you're talking about, and there's so many instances like that that happen, and I don't know why the information just disappears to nothing.
I hear somebody has a hand that it's analyzed, it's not human, but what happened to that hand?
And I remember people, I saw photographs of people measuring this, and it couldn't, I showed these photographs to a primatologist, and they said, that can't possibly be a slot, because look at the, you know, by whatever evidence of knowledge that he had, and yet, and now this is all gone.
It's, you know, it's like there's, I hate to say it, but it's like there's some kind of conspiracy.
Just the truth is, ultimately, yeah, there has to be a body.
If somebody came, there's been DNA, there's already been, it's unknown species, the footprints, and there's so much evidence out there already.
The only thing that's going to conclusively prove these animals exist to science, which is a very conservative, you know, science has just always been conservative that way, is a body.
John and Everett, Washington, you're on with Todd Stanley.
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Greetings and salutations, gentlemen.
Hi.
Arthur, I'm a first-time caller, and I've had three experiences with these critters over the years.
Once in 1959, my dad and I were hunting, and we ran across these tracks.
And he says, oh, my God, I can't believe that I'm seeing what I'm seeing.
And he was manager of a very large tree farm, almost 100,000 acres.
So he was covering a lot of ground all the time.
But this is like the third time that he's seen something like this.
And he had told us about, well, yeah, you know, you heard stories about the Yetis and stuff, but this is something like they've got here in the Northwest.
And so we were walking along, and we weren't more than 300 feet away from this, I don't know, human-looking thing, but it had reddish-brown hair like a orangutan.
But the hair was different.
It was that color.
And it just kind of looked at us and then walked off into the brush.
And Dad says, well, we're not following.
It says, I don't want to be in this area.
He says, we could get into some serious trouble.
He says, it was huge.
It was probably like eight and a half foot tall.
The next time I saw one, I was up in the Okanagan hunting by myself.
And I was sitting in a bowl.
And this is a pretty good sized bowl, probably a good quarter of a mile across.
And this goes for everybody because, you know, the calls are just stacked up.
So if everybody would be so kind, and you would be so kind, as to put the details, everything you can think of, in an email and get it to Todd Standing.
I'd appreciate it.
Todd would appreciate it.
We'll let you know what the follow-up is with bugs.
That's really something.
And Todd, again, if you would give out your email address one more time, please, clearly.