Barbara McBeath of the Ghost Investigators Society (GIS) shares chillingly clear EVPs—including a child’s voice in Manila’s cemetery pleading "help me find my dad" and a mortician’s haunted home where a trapped spirit whispers "I can’t breathe" amid sulfur smells and unexplained noises. Spanish, German-like voices emerge in recordings, though rarely broadcast due to comprehension barriers. McBeath dismisses skepticism, citing cases like Deer Lodge Prison’s eerie "we sat back to back" echoes tied to unresolved spirits, while Bell debates whether these phenomena reflect trapped souls or darker forces. Their Halloween Eve segment hints at unsettling truths behind EVPs, blending ritual summonings with unexplained clarity, leaving listeners questioning the nature of the unseen. [Automatically generated summary]
From the Southeast Asian capital city of the Philippine Islands, Manila, I bid you good day.
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, whatever the case may be.
Wherever you are, I'm Art Bell, and this is the weekend version of Coast to Coast AM.
And when I say coast to coast, I mean literally around the world.
It's great to be with you.
My honor and privilege to be escorting you through the weekend.
It's going to be a wild one where I am, and I'm hoping that Lex or Sean will get the update that I just sent them.
But if you check the coastcoastam.com website, you will see I was able to find a website that tracks typhoons here.
We have one headed for us.
And oh, it's a beaut.
It's a real beauty and it's getting bigger all the time.
Fortunately for us, it appears to be headed a little more northerly than it was previously, although some of the computer models still have it coming down toward us.
Hopefully, it will continue on this northern trek.
However, the latest information on Typhoon Cimarron, and you'll actually get to see it.
Now, this is the island that I'm on, for those of you not familiar, and there would be many with the geography here in the Philippines.
I am on the island of Luzon.
And wait till you see this.
The update is not up there yet, but it will be shortly.
Cimarron is now about to be packing winds of 295 kilometers per hour.
That's fast.
And we're not quite sure of the track yet.
It depends on which computer model it decides to follow, but it's going to cut right through the central and slightly northern part of Luzon.
Baguio is a city that frequently has a lot of mudslides and trouble, and it's going to be passing very close to Baguio.
So there's kind of a strange thing here in the Philippines.
For some reason, they don't warn people.
You know, in the U.S., my God, they're talking about storms way ahead of time.
If this kind of storm was headed toward the U.S., it'd be all over the news.
Now, there is more to talk about, although I'm watching this very, very carefully.
Listen, coming up Wednesday, I'm going to be doing the annual traditional ghost-to-ghost program.
And so, two items to think about here, please.
One, if you have a superlatively good ghost story, I would encourage you to email it to me.
Now, try and keep it short.
The best ones are the short ones.
And I'm only going to be able to read so much on the air before we begin taking calls.
So if you have a really good ghost story, by all means, commit it to email.
Send it to me, artbell at mindspring.com.
I'm ArtBell, A-R-T B-double-L at mindspring.com.
M-I-N-D-S-P-R-I-N-G.
Now, beyond that, if you have a ghost story you would like to tell on the air, we are going to be searching for only the best, only the scariest, only the, I don't know, you know what the good and the bad of ghost stories is.
I want nothing but the best, the absolute best.
So kind of prep yourself for it a little bit.
I always encourage people to do that.
And that means sometimes making a little outline of what you're going to say on paper so that when you get on the air, if you suddenly have an attack of nerves, you can look down and kind of reference what it was you were going to say.
It can happen.
You can kind of lock up when you realize you're on the air.
All right.
All that said, that's coming up Wednesday.
I'll remind you again tomorrow about that.
There is one more thing, and that is tonight, during this program, we will once again, well, let me qualify that.
You will once again be required to turn your clocks back an hour.
Now, traditionally, I have ranted about this, and I'll do a very small rant.
It's an insane, insane thing, in my opinion, to have to twice a year either turn back or go forward one hour.
It's just insane.
Why we do it, I have no idea whatsoever.
Now, I'm going to cut my rant short this year for the following reason.
I now live in a country that sanely does not change their clocks.
Now, the only impact this will have on me is that instead of beginning my show at 1 o'clock in the afternoon, I will now be able to get another hour of sleep and begin my show at 2 o'clock in the afternoon.
So it's fine by me.
It's fine by me.
But for everybody across the contiguous 48 states, it's a pain in the butt.
There are a few states, namely Arizona and a few others, that sanely don't do this crazy thing.
But for the rest of you, a reminder, you're going to have to turn your clocks back at or before 2 a.m.
For a lot of you, that means doing beginning right now.
At home, I had about 30 to 50 clocks.
I have just an insane number of clocks.
And I would have to begin in the early evening, and by showtime, I would have them all pretty well turned back, except the one that I was going to use for air.
Let's take a, anyway, here I am in the Philippines where they don't touch the clocks ever.
So my rant is cut short.
But for those of you in the States that still have to change your clocks, you know, every year I say this and it bounces off, does no good.
But call your congressman.
Email your congressman, your senator.
Tell them to stop the insanity now.
I would like to see it end in our lifetimes.
I really would.
All right, we're going to take a very quick break, and then we will look at the abysmal world news.
It really is eerie out there just ahead of this big typhoon.
It's really eerie.
And if you take a look at my webcam photo, you'll see what I mean.
It's just strange out there.
Listen, coming up next hour, normally we would have Brendan Cook and Barbara Macbeth from the Ghost Investigators Society, GIS, but Brendan is down with a serious case of the flu.
We will, nevertheless, continue with the program, Barbara Macbeth being here all by herself.
And this involves electronic voice phenomena.
And I'll tell you more about it next hour, but it literally is the voices.
We think the voices of the dead.
Certainly, there's no accounting for what you're going to hear tonight.
There really isn't.
It's one of the things that convinces me more than anything else of life after death.
After a hastily arranged video conference with President Bush, Iraq's prime minister said Saturday that the U.S. President promised to move swiftly to turn over full control of the Iraqi army to the Baghdad government.
What's happening here is that they are sort of using the U.S. elections and the president's weakened position because of them to try and pressure him to turn over control of the armed forces a little early, and it's probably working.
The mother of one of the four firefighters who died during a wildfire that authorities blamed on arsonists urged those who said it to turn themselves in Saturday, saying, quote, I firmly believe you didn't believe that things were going to turn out the way they did, but they did, said Bonnie McKay, whose son, Jason 27, died Thursday.
Don't let the remorse eat you alive, she said.
Come forward.
I, for one, will try to not judge you.
There is only one who can judge you.
28 years after his first campaign, President George W. Bush is waging his last.
And if the polls are anywhere near correct, the president could wind up experiencing the sting of defeat for the first time since the 1978 race.
Most of the winning campaigns in between have been close, and the president's victories have hinged in part on his flair for retail politicking that allows him to make personal connections with voters.
It may not be enough this time.
Let's see.
Fidel Castro up and on TV in Cuba, now 80 years old, but sort of strolling around saying, see, I'm not dead.
The Mexican president, Vicente Fox, has ordered federal police down south in his country, where they've had a lot of trouble for a long time.
But after the killing of a U.S. journalist and at least two Mexicans, apparently his patience with this flare-up has ended, and he's got the military down there.
Nearly 40% of the scientists conducting hands-on research at the National Institutes of Health say they're looking for other jobs or considering doing so to escape new ethics rules that apparently are curtailing their opportunity to earn outside income.
Most of the scientists say ethics breakdown, the ethics crackdown rather, is just simply too severe.
And nearly three-quarters of them think that it will hinder the government's ability to attract and keep medical researchers.
Probably will.
Brad Pitt is upset.
His staff is claiming that a television producer and cameraman trespassed at his Hollywood Hills home after the actor and his family weren't home.
The pair from E-Networks parked out a van allegedly outside their home October 20th, ignored a no trespassing sign and walked onto the property, where some construction workers apparently saw them and reported the whole thing.
This is kind of an interesting story.
Let's see, I have time for it.
Pig-grabbing space aliens are the talk of Tappan, North Dakota, and beyond.
But Tori Brisi, whose family counts three close encounters with the inexplicable, there we go, doesn't worry very much about what other people think.
Some people probably aren't going to believe it.
I'm not even going to try to convince anybody.
We know what happened, said Brisi, a member of the Tappan School Board, whose family operates a ranch outside of town.
Brisie and his wife, Myra, spoke Thursday of three strange occurrences experienced by family members in the past year, two of them reported by their son, Evans 16.
According to Myra Brisi, the latest incident went something like this.
Her son awoke early on the morning of September 12, got up to get a glass of water.
Looking out a window, the boy saw something moving in the corral that is home to several large hogs that are basically family pets.
Thinking it probably was a coyote, he grabbed a gun and walked into the corral.
There, he encountered two creatures standing eight to nine feet tall that were doing something to one of the hogs.
The boy fired his .22-caliber rifle at one creature and was pretty sure he hit it, judging by the unearthly scream it emitted.
Another creature then grabbed the boy and threw him to the ground, causing him to black out.
When he awoke, he found that Ruthie, a 400-pound All right, I think we're back on live, everybody, and sorry about that.
Who knows?
It may be this approaching typhoon.
I have no idea the way lines are routed here.
But what happened was, so that you know, the ISDN line here, which we use for communication.
Okay, I think we're back yet again.
I think we're having perhaps a little cockpit problem.
At any rate, we're back, and we're about to take a break.
So I'm going to have to hold on to the end of this story until after the break for the information back for the board ops there.
We are about to go into a break.
This is quite a story, this story from a farm in North Dakota.
This is where, you know, it's odd that these things always seem to occur out sort of in the middle of nowhere.
Once again, it's a weird night.
We've got a big storm on the way.
Go to ghostcoastam.com.
Take a look.
It's really a monster.
I'm Art Bell.
Well, I hope I'm here, and I think I am.
We had a, again, for those of you who missed it, we had an ISDN disconnect.
It could be the storm.
We have the mother of all storms headed toward Luzon.
And you can see a picture of it on the website if you want to.
It doesn't look good at all.
And some of the models have it swinging south, which would be a very disagreeable situation for us.
I hope it stays up north.
Anyway, I was telling you this story about North Dakota.
Let me sort of finish up on that.
The young fellow shot this thing, which screamed, absolutely screamed, this unearthly scream.
Later, he was hypnotized.
Five entities had been in that corral.
He relayed this all under hypnosis.
Two were in the process of dragging what appeared to be a dead hog when a boy interrupted them.
It's simply unexplainable, Myra Briefsy said.
This still bothers Evan to the day.
She said, adding her son feels guilty for not being able to save his younger sister's hog.
As for the other incidents, one was in April when Evan and his cattle dog, Buster, were checking on cows during calving season, his parents said.
Investigating a flashing glow, the pair walked over a hill, saw an object resting on the ground that appeared to be scanning a water hole with an intense beam of light.
At first, the boy and dog could do nothing but stare.
The spell was broken when Buster ran barking at the craft, which then took off into the night, causing what amounted to a sonic boom.
That woke Myra up.
Torrey Brisi said of the sound, adding that he too witnessed something unusual this past summer.
It happened one night in July when he was giving a neighbor a ride into town.
A lot going on here.
Breezy said he and the neighbor noticed a bluish light in the sky, which stopped when they stopped, moved when they began driving.
We spent about a half hour watching it, Breezy said, adding at one point the object flew so fast it went several miles in just seconds.
Based on the description of the object that his son saw in April, Breezy links the two events, adding that he never had been given to flights of fancy.
Evan and I are very skeptical, Tori Breezy said.
We used to watch the UFO files on TV and laugh out loud.
Breezy said he wouldn't be surprised if people feel the same way about this story, but said that the family doesn't need to prove anything, and they've moved on.
We're not looking for aliens, he said.
Rice Barnick, the mayor of Tappan, located off Interstate 94 between Bismarck and Jamestown, said visits by UFOs are the talk of the town, though he himself is not quite on board with it all.
Not saying it can't happen, but I'd have to see it to believe it.
At the time of the April incident, the Breeses were put in touch with Richard Moss, a UFO investigator who just happened to be in Tappen for a funeral.
And he said that his inclination is to definitely believe the story.
So also, by the way, one of the animals found, a sheep, had had a single testicle removed with surgical precision, surgical precision.
This was done by a forum reporter, Stephen Wagney, and I thought that it was a very unusual story and one that Deserved airtime.
Maybe we can find out more about it.
Perhaps we can interview one of the individuals involved.
But without question, this is one of the strangest stories I've seen in a long time.
More in a moment.
We're about to go to open line, so if you'd like to get on the air and you've got something relevant, interesting for the audience, now would be a time to dial.
Rita in Houston, Texas said, hey, Art, what happened to the 400-pound pig?
Your line went out right at the punchline.
The 400-pound pig just flat disappeared.
Never did come back.
So this was one weird story out of North Dakota.
And if any of the participants would like, you know, it just happened a month or so ago.
And if any of the participants would like to be interviewed, I'd love to interview them.
Now, in the next hour, we're going to be talking to Barbara Macbeth from the GIS, Ghost Investigators Society.
And I'm telling you right now that of all the things that I cover on this radio program, the GIS and these incredible voices that are coming from either another dimension, well, I think it is another dimension.
That's as closest I can come to whatever the reality of this electronic voice phenomena may be.
I have no idea what it really is, but these are voices from the other side of something.
Whether it's actually the voices of the dead or not, I don't know.
But I am convinced.
I really am convinced that whatever this phenomena is, it's real.
It is absolutely real.
So what you're going to hear tonight will kind of shake you up.
It will scare you.
It scares me every time we do it.
And that's why I've had the GIS back again and again and again, because this really is scary stuff.
Of course, we're close to Halloween, so it's a good time for it.
At any rate, top of the hour, GIS, Voices from the Other Side.
Maybe I should just call it that.
Instead of Voices from the Dead, we'll call it Voices from the Other Side of something.
This is such a fascinating world we live in, isn't it?
Let's go West of the Rockies and say hello, Steve.
You're on the air.
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Art, it's about approaching 3 o'clock in the afternoon there, I think, on Sunday.
You can go and listen yourself to what you call the top ones on our website, if you wish.
What we try to present on each new program are the latest ones.
Some of them are chilling, some of them not.
What we're trying to do is give you an example of everything that comes through so you can kind of begin to draw your own conclusions about the nature of the other side.
But what I did in anticipation of coming to the Philippines, knowing that I was married and I was going to be here for some time, is I joined an organization here known as the PRA.
And I think that's the Philippine Retirement Authority.
And so instead of having a visa, it gives you a visa, a permanent visa.
So it's kind of like I'm an American-P.
So I remain an American, but dash P for Filipino.
And I have, I guess it would be the equivalent of a green card for those who are residents in America.
I think what I have would be equivalent to a green card.
One of these days, I'll scan it and put it up on the net so you all can see it.
But it virtually allows me to remain forever, if I wish, in the Philippines.
It allows me multiple entrants and exits as though I were a citizen, even though, of course, I am not.
No, of course I remain an American citizen.
Let's go, let's see, to the wildcard line and say, Sean, in New York, you're on the air.
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Yeah, hi, Art.
I wonder if you've heard anything or know any more about the satellite that NASA sent up, the STEREO satellite, to study, that's a dual satellite to study the magnetic and particular effects of the sun when it has the coronal outbursts or whatever?
And it's a dual satellite system wherein they're going to study coronal outbursts, or whatever the correct word is, I'm not sure, with two satellites simultaneously and get a stereoscopic view of magnetic flux.
I was aware of the satellite they had out about 10 million miles that watches the sun.
So apparently this is going to be a mate for that, and I can understand the advantage of a stereoscopic view of coronal ejections when they occur and the magnetic anomalies on the sun.
I know that in some of my reading in the Edgar Casey material, he had stated way back when that in the future there would be equipment that would be built and developed that would provide us with a back and forth conversation with the other side.
A number of years ago, Han, there were experiments done allowing live discussions with the other side.
It actually has already happened a number of years ago.
And I've been trying to encourage the plans for the electronics that did this are actually up on the net.
And so I'm hoping somebody will pick up on it and continue that line of experimentation because I would think live talks with anything on the other side would just be incredibly interesting.
So hopefully somebody will pick up on the whole concept and continue with it.
My gosh, I'd like to know.
So very, very interesting from Karen.
It's kind of a strange night.
We are experiencing some pretty strange weather over here.
At the moment, if you look at my webcam photograph, you'll see that we have kind of a haze slash clouds slash fog, kind of a very still, weird atmosphere in Manila right now.
And it's all ahead of this coming typhoon.
And, you know, the calm, the proverbial calm before the storm.
On the first time, caller line, you are on the air.
I love you guys for 16 years, and I'm glad to do it.
But I have noticed recently a very disturbing trend in the direction of the show that Mr. Norrie is taking some weekdays, and it seems to be in a very limbaugh type direction of the direction of Jesus and political matters.
And to me, that's just not the spirit of coast to coast.
Well, listen, it is up to George, the direction into which he takes a show during the week.
And Coast to Coast has never, you know, this is worth, I guess, a moment or two of conversation, but Coast to Coast has never been, and nor would I want it to be, a static entity.
In other words, it's constantly changing and constantly evolving.
And if you don't do that with the program, if you don't constantly change it and constantly evolve it, you're probably going to have people losing interest.
Now, inevitably, anytime a show takes any kind of a change, people hate change.
They simply hate change.
And so they react negatively because you build an audience for a certain genre, and then they react negatively when there's a change.
But you build an audience for whatever it is that you're doing, or you don't.
You know, you take your chances.
Many years ago, when I began Coast to Coast AM, it was a very typical talk show.
It was politically oriented.
It was, well, it was kind of like every other talk show you hear on the air.
And what happened was I simply got bored with it.
You know, I was doing it six nights a week, five, and or at times six hours a night.
Now, that's a lot of time, folks.
And when you find yourself doing politics again, night after night after night after night, it finally hit me that I was bored.
And so I began to slip toward the paranormal with the program.
Now, at that time, the producers and the managers and owners of the program freaked out totally.
I mean, they just went absolutely berserk, giving you a little history of Coast here.
And I nevertheless went in the direction that I wanted to go.
And it became, as you can see clearly now, a huge success.
George now has the weekday program, and he is going to take it in the direction that he wants to take it.
That is what he should do.
And so I would hope that there would be nobody that would restrain George from doing what he wants to do.
The only way you're ever going to be a success in life is to do what you want to do.
And anything else is going to be just sort of a cheap imitation of something else, and that's not what you want.
So I would hope whatever, you know, I'm not very familiar with what's being done during the week, but I'm here to tell you right now that George should follow his instincts.
And the only way he's ever going to be successful is to do exactly that, follow his instincts.
That's what I did.
That's how we got where we are.
From Typhoon-Threatened Manila, I'm Art Bell with EVPs coming up next.
It is indeed.
Hi, everybody.
How you doing?
We're about to venture into some pretty strange territory, to be sure.
Barbara Macbeth, normally accompanied by Brendan Cook, are both members of the Ghost Investigators Society, the GIS, if you will.
The Ghost Investigators Society is a non-profit organization, means they don't make money dedicated to the investigation of ghosts.
Not only do they conduct investigations, but also instruct, assist, and educate anyone who believes that they may be experiencing ghostly phenomena, or those who are just simply curious.
In an effort to educate the public about ghosts, the GIS hopes the EVP's electronic voice phenomena presented will help demonstrate that the consciousness, our consciousness, does survive after our body dies, and that these voices may help to give a different perspective about life, death, and ghosts.
And I would like to add here that over the years, I've investigated an awful lot of things that relate to ghostly phenomena.
And I think that EVP is probably at the head of the list in things that convince me that this is absolutely as real as a heart attack.
Now, I don't want you to have one, and some of what you're going to hear tonight is going to be kind of scary stuff.
So in a moment, Brennan Cook is not here.
He's down, I understand, with a horrible case of the flu.
I know about that.
I'm just getting over my fourth bout with either flu or colds over here.
But we do have Barbara Macbeth, and so she's going to, as a trooper, and the GIS are all troopers, stick with us for the next three hours of scary stuff.
Again, ladies and gentlemen, we are experiencing very shortly here, and parts of Luzon probably are already getting hit with a very, very, very large typhoon with winds of up to 295 kilometers.
If you want to see it on the website, coast2coastam.com, there's a map.
You can click on it, make it larger, and see for yourself what is bearing down on us very quickly.
Well, all right.
I would like to attempt to welcome Barbara Macbeth of the GIS.
Electronic voice phenomena is a voice that you do not hear at the time being recorded on either a tape recorder, a microcassette recorder, anything that records can record EVP.
Many times they're very low.
If you don't have headphones listening to them, sometimes they're so soft and low you would not hear it when you're reviewing it.
Yes, and especially if they suspect that there's activity where they live or in their workplace, try it at that location and see if you can get a response.
Most times they don't respond to direct questions.
There have been occasions where we have recorded a voice coming back and answering a question that we have asked, but many times they'll just drop in on our conversation when we're talking between ourselves.
But the whole investigation, we are constantly inviting them to come and talk with us and to be with us.
And yet a lot of the other ones appear not directed to you, but just sort of snatches of, oh, I don't know, a conversation or a feeling or something somebody says.
Now, here's where we get to the part where I'm not sure what we're dealing with.
Are these the voices of people who once lived and are now dead and are spirits on the other side?
Are they voices of ghosts that are still, for some reason, trapped on this side?
Or are we hearing really from the other side, from people in heaven or hell or another dimension?
But since we go to locations that do have reported haunting activity or ghost activity that people have experienced and witnessed, I believe that the voices that we record are voices of ghosts.
And ghosts are the energy consciousness of someone who's lived and has had a body and has died and are still here on this plane with us.
Yes, I believe that the majority of ghosts that we have come in contact are not happy.
I believe that how you are in life, that your attitude and your mental state does carry on with you after death, and that does not change just because you die.
The type of activity that was going on was not the same type of activity that we have investigated in other locations that have ghost activity taking place.
Yes, it sounds like a child, but I believe, in fact, the voices that we recorded at that location that night were some children, some adult men, some sounded like an old woman, but I think it was one entity.
I think it's the type of thing that causes possession, that type of entities that come to people when they're conducting seances or using a Ouija board, which I Have been involved in in my past.
But the only reason you classify it differently than you do the others is because, well, you had knowledge that these ladies were into Wicca and perhaps opening doors they ought not open.
But who's to say that there's any difference at all between what we're hearing right here, which is obviously a negative kind of thing, and whatever you might classify as a ghost?
Well, this is my own belief, just from the research that I've conducted over 50 years.
I believe that there are different types of entities.
And although some of the activity that happens in different situations, whether it be ghost or demonic, evil spirit type of things, the results can seem similar.
And I think people have a tendency to confuse them.
Barbara Macbeth from the GIS is with us this night.
We're about to take a break, and we're going to be hearing these voices all night long.
Don't forget, coming up this Wednesday, for me Wednesday, Ghost2Ghost AM.
I'm Mark Bell.
You are indeed.
Good morning, everybody, afternoon or evening, whatever the case is, wherever you are.
We have Barbara Macbeth from the Ghost Investigator Society, and we're playing EVPs for you.
Now, I know they don't scare Barbara, but they do scare me.
And reading ahead, I can tell you there's some pretty scary stuff here.
Don't forget, we're doing a Ghost-to-Ghost AM coming up for Halloween.
Actually, in America, I think it's going to be Tuesday.
I know that it'll be Wednesday here in the Philippines as we do it.
So I'm getting ready for that.
If you've got a good ghost story, develop it.
Put a little outline on paper.
That frequently helps if you've got a really good one so that if you happen to freeze a little bit when you get on the air, that outline will be there to support you in telling your story.
It's a great way to do it.
In a moment, we'll get back to Barbara Macbeth and electronic voice phenomena.
Once again, Barbara Macbeth.
Barbara, welcome back.
And I think we're about to leave the residence of the two young ladies toying with the craft and move to a mausoleum or something.
Well, I can remember the first time I went into this location, it was kind of overwhelming just because of the amount of bodies that are located inside and people's mementos to their loved ones.
On this one, my husband and GIS member Roger had just Stated, you won't hear this on this clip, but he had just stated, Don't let our lights bother you, they won't hurt you, referring to the flash of the cameras and the infrared and the flashlights because we wander around in there in the dark.
And he recorded this voice that responded right after he had said that, our death gate.
And you'll notice in this clip, it echoes.
This voice actually echoes in the mausoleum.
Our voices echo in the mausoleum just because of all the marble, the floor.
And I think that what you're doing is important work.
I think, though, that I have a very different view of it than you do.
For one thing, if that's the other side, if these indeed are the voices of the dead, and I can't imagine they're anything else, Barbara, then I'm not so wild about the other side.
I mean, it just is not that appealing, to be honest with you.
When I think of heaven, I think of the traditional clouds and angels.
Well, I believe that the things that you're hearing, like these voices, to me, they're almost like they don't realize they're dead or they have not finished business that needed to be done in their life before the death took place.
Well, I think a lot of the times it's, you know, I've analyzed this in my head a dozen different ways.
I think a lot of times, and you can just look at the people that you pass by and know in your daily life, a lot of people do not have a firm theological belief to set them firm where they feel confident in who they are, what they are, what they stand for.
And I think that has a lot to do with how a person's mental attitude is.
What happens, folks, is they have hours of recording at any given location, and then they, I guess, take the recorders back to a location where all the members, or as many as you can get, of the GIS, sit down and listen to hours of these, looking for these voices.
I want to tell the audience again, you doubt this, you think this isn't real?
Take a recorder, go try it yourself.
We've had hundreds, thousands of people do that over the years, and they get recordings more times than not.
Now, it doesn't mean you're going to get one every time, or you may get many, but there's a very good chance that if you want to try, if you have the guts to go try this yourself, you're going to get something, right?
And if you don't get anything the first time you try it, don't be discouraged because we go to locations where we have recorded ghost activity, ghost voices, and we can go back the very same night and not get a thing.
And I don't know what the conditions are.
We have never been able to correlate it with full moon, weather, time of day.
So I don't know what the conditions are.
But if you know of a location that does have reported haunting activity, take a recorder to that location and give it a try and see what you get.
This one, we had been on this investigation in the mausoleum, and we had been in there for a couple of hours, so we decided to go outside and take a break.
And we left our equipment running inside.
And you're going to hear us walking out.
And as I'm leaving, I say, we invite anyone to speak with us.
We invite you to tell us your name and talk with us.
I hope you'll introduce yourself.
I'm Barbara.
And after the door closes, you will hear a woman laughing.
It's pretty far down in the noise, but listen very carefully, folks, and you can hear, again, to me, what sounds like perhaps a child's voice or a young voice because it's very high-pitched.
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What was it?
We invited him to speak to us.
And we wanted to tell your name and talk to us and introduce yourself.
I don't believe everybody stays as a ghost, but I think the ones that are around that people experience are still in this realm.
They're the ones that can make sounds appear when there's no logical explanation for footstep sounds going down a hallway, doors opening and closing by themselves, knocking a picture frame over.
Of course, you know, they were trying to produce a scary movie, and they certainly did that, but you didn't, I guess you felt it wasn't fair to EVP, yeah?
This is an old pioneer cemetery north of our location.
It's up in northern Utah.
I actually had a sheriff tell me about this location, things that have been witnessed there by the townspeople, and he was the one that told me about this.
In fact, there's been occasions when we've been in this cemetery where it's a very small town.
We've had the whole sheriff department, fire department, forest ranger guys.
I think the whole town has been in there some nights with us.
This was on a different occasion, different night.
We had someone that was not a member of the GIS with us, and Jenny and this person had walked off down one of the roads, and Roger, my husband, had experienced something where he felt like a hand had grabbed him.
He said he could feel the long fingers on his arm.
And Jenny, you'll hear her telling this girl that was with us that this over here is where Roger got grabbed.
And she recorded, it sounds like a young woman's voice say, help me find my dad.
But I wanted to mention on these two that we played from the cemetery, just to talk about the difference in quality, both of those were recorded on microcassette recorders, and you can hear the noise in it so loud.
And the digital ones are so much clearer, it's just unbelievable in the quality and the difference.
Well, that wouldn't be my purpose so much as to make an income from it, although I wouldn't mind that aspect.
But I do, I hope, to be able to write a book just about the experiences that we've encountered and be able to let people know of other people's experiences that aren't seeking out this type of thing that just happens spontaneously.
I think it would take a lot of training to be able to listen to a recorder and you're there with people talking and trying to keep up with that, being able to hear something coming through at that time.
Although Brendan, the one that was made for us, Brendan did happen to have a recording in our house where me and Roger live.
We were talking about one of the guards that had worked at this prison had taken us during the day through the prison and told, you know, from a guard's point of view, things that the guards did to the prisoners.
And this was just a little later when we were talking about the tour that he had given us.
And Jenny, you'll hear her say, he probably did what they deserved.
He probably gave them what they deserved.
And she recorded this voice say, we sat back to back.
The guard had told us when they would take prisoners from the cells for punishment or something, hose them off, they'd handcuff them and make them sit on the floor handcuffed to each other back to back.
Barbara, even in real-time life here, prisoners become so accustomed to prison that some of them, when they get out, go out and commit a crime just so they can get thrown back in prison, which is the only place they know.
You know, to go out, if somebody's been confined for any length of time for illness or imprisonment or whatever, it's very scary when you go out there in the world.
And in fact, at the Rollins penitentiary that we investigated, there was a prisoner when he was released.
He had been in prison for 40 years.
He was released.
He ate lunch out there.
They'd given him a lunch to take with him when he left.
And he sat out on the lawn of the prison and ate his lunch and went back in and asked if he could stay.
I mean, even being a mortician used to dealing with the dead, to have this begin to happen in your home, I would think that this mortician and at least his wife and family, when this stuff would begin to happen, would want to get the hell out of there.
There was a person that emailed us and said maybe the reason why we record so many children is because you stop and think about how many children are neglected, kidnapped, and murdered.
It could possibly be children that have had that situation take place.
Of all, you know, Barbara, of all the people that you would not imagine to be trapped in some unsavory situation, meaning not going on to whatever is next, this eternal joy in heaven or whatever it is, I mean, the children should be well on their way immediately, not stuck.
If people have contacted us to do an investigation in their residence and they have children, if they are not able to get the children out of the house to grandma's or some friends or something, we won't do it.
I just, you've obviously, psychologically, you've been able to sort of pigeonhole all of this and, I don't know, come to grips with it and not be scared by it, but I just couldn't do that, Barbara.
Now, we always wonder whether we're hearing what you tell us we should be hearing or, you know, I do get people suggesting other things have been said, but it really does sound like Oliver.
On this one, you're going to hear the mortician going on RQ of, you know, if there's a question you want to ask, he picked up one of his little son's toys and said, here, buddy, and set it on the floor.
And we recorded this child saying, I see good, good.
I think it's your own protective mechanism because if you didn't think as you think about these, then I don't think you'd be able to continue to do it.
I think you've built this protective mechanism in the way you think about all this that does allow you to continue to do it, which we're going to do right now with number 14.
And on these, you're going to, I want you to be aware that on these last clips from the Exchange building, we were using a condenser microphone and a laptop to record.
All right, Barbara, stand by, and we'll catch you on the flip side of this hourly break.
Barbara is a member of the GIS.
That's the Ghost Investigators Society.
And what you're hearing tonight are voices from the other side.
We are going to begin taking calls shortly, so if you want to line up and you have a question for Barbara about what you've been hearing tonight or about EVP, we're going to be all ears.
We've got a few more EVPs to get under our belt before we do that, but we'll try and clear those up quickly.
Don't forget, folks, Tuesday, Tuesday night, I'll be here live, storm, typhoon permitting, with our annual Ghost to Ghost program.
That's not a trifling matter.
And so I'm asking you now to begin sort of gathering your stories together and kind of putting together how you're going to tell them and that sort of thing.
We're going to be screening carefully because we want nothing but the best, the scariest, perhaps entity attacks, that sort of thing.
That's what we're going to be looking for.
After all, it is Halloween.
Barbara Macbeth will be right back.
The End Once again, we're in a Mental hospital exchange, if you will, at one point, but also at one point a mental hospital.
My guest is Barbara Macbeth, and we're playing electronic voice phenomena, or voices from the other side, if you will.
And if you want to get angry at it and say it's BS and just not listen, that's your choice.
But I have become convinced over the years, and particularly with the group that we're talking with right now, that what you're hearing is a real thing.
What you want to believe it is or isn't is up to you.
On this one, we had brought a friend of ours along with us named Lee, and Brendan thought Lee was right with him, and you're going to hear Brendan say, hey, Lee, and then he discovers Lee isn't with him, and he says Lee's name again.
And we recorded this child that says, I'm hungry.
And we do bring food and drinks with us, so maybe he was looking at what we'd brought.
Transcription by CastingWords I wouldn't want to be in an 18-wheeler just flying across somewhere in the middle of the country in the middle of the night listening to this.
Well, I don't know about the story, but let's have the comment on the question.
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Okay, the question would be, a friend has a Nord V2 keyboard, and it comes up with some algorithms that are amazing as far as, I mean, it's almost as if they're opening a portal to the ghost world.
And I'm curious what you guys might have to say on something like that.
But I mean, as far as like, you know, on the EVPs And all that, like, how would they, you know, does that actually connect with the ghosts?
And does that actually connect with the ghosts, you know, as far as any kind of way that they're clicking in to pick up signals?
I found your site because of Coast to Coast AM, and I was wondering the one that scares you the most and the ones that make you laugh the most, and I'll tell you the one that scares me the most.
I've listened to the entire EVP gallery, Miss Barbara, and the one that says, am I dead?
My family is from Gonzales, Louisiana, which is between New Orleans and Baton Rouge.
And I've been down in Louisiana many times throughout my life, but we have never conducted an investigation there.
That is one of my goals, is to get down there, because I'm aware of a lot of places I would like to go and investigate, but I've never done an investigation there.
And in the beginning, when we started dealing with EVP, we thought, oh, well, maybe it's some radio station, you know, and it's somehow getting into the recorder.
And Barbara, this is a fascinating show because I have an account I would like to relate to you, and then maybe something that might help you in your studies on this.
It was a reel-to-reel, which has sound on sound and sound with sound.
It has a built-in EchoPlex.
And depending on the speed of the tape, you can talk.
And then you can either get maybe a seven-second delay or a 13-second delay when the tape rolls by.
And this was at Christmas time, and I had a little Christmas tree in my house and Christmas cards And everything around, and I was getting ready to do this voiceover.
I reached over to get my, and I smoked too, I reached over to get my cigarettes, and I heard back through the, you can get a wet or a dry mix on these recorders.
I heard back through the recorder, I heard a child's voice, a little girl's voice that said, who's here?
Then there was about a two-second delay, and it was like there was excitement in her voice that said, Christmas.
And this was late at night, 12 o'clock.
I don't have any children.
There was no children in the house.
And I turned around quick.
I just, you know, natural instinct, I thought someone else was there in the room with me.
No one there.
I flipped the recorder off, played it back, and it was just as clear as a bell, just like I'm hearing tonight.
Barbara, is it possible to record, I guess, family EVP in a place that you've never lived in before?
And, well, I went blind three years ago.
And ever since then, I have been visited by family members, animals, you know, whatever.
And I'm just curious.
I mean, I don't consider them haunting.
I'm just curious, though, as to whether these spirits would have followed me here to Phoenix and whether or not it would be possible to record them if they were so inclined.
If you have family members that are attached to you or looking over you as type of a guardian angel type of thing, I believe that that would be possible and you might want to try that.
All right, Barbara, nice to speak with you two again.
And just before I get on with my question for you guys who haven't tried this, it does work.
It does come back real.
But my question tonight was, has any of you ever been on a site, whether it be a cemetery or whatever, and played it back to someone and able to identify the voice?
Three shows ago when Barbara was on, her husband made Some very interesting comments that you went.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh, I didn't realize that.
And I have a radio-trained ear, and the recordings that were made with laptops with a wide-open mic, not in voice-activated mode, recorded some traffic in the background.
And I said, that's conversation.
And so I downloaded the show, I isolated that, I filtered out all of the audible recognizable voices.
And sure enough, there is conversation in the background that is of a different frequency.
It's on a different dimension, if you will.
And what I think is happening is what you're hearing that we can understand are burst transmissions from another dimension.
Moving quickly to the wildcard line, Matthew in Fresno, California.
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How are you doing, Barbara?
I had a question.
My question was, can someone curse another person with these entities?
And the reason I asked that is because of certain experiences I had while I was with a certain girlfriend of mine.
And when you guys were talking about the food, bringing food, in her religion, when someone died, they would bring food and money to the funeral and they would burn it.
And that would supposedly go up to the spirits.
And my question was, is can someone else curse you?
Because I feel like I had been cursed by this person's grandmother.
And there were certain experiences that had occurred since that time.
I'm disabled, and I was coming down the steps and looking for stuff, and I had my robe on one arm and shoulder, and the other arm was off.
And I went into the bedroom to look for things, and what I thought was my husband went to help me get the other arm on.
And I turned around to thank him, and he's at the end of our long haul.
He had just finished washing dishes in the kitchen, and I was shocked because I thought it was him, and I just thought, what happened here?
And I said, were you just here?
And he said, no.
I said, you're not going to believe this, but somebody tried to help me get on the robe.
And it wasn't him, and it wasn't me, and we're the only two people here.
And I was just curious if this entity, which I've never felt threatened, but I've always been telepathic and felt the presence, could become more menacing.
And I was curious about EVPs or if I should just stay out of that realm.