Ham radio operator Tom (KN4LF) reports poltergeist activity since August 2002, including objects moving, shadow figures, and his son being physically attacked, with the entity later revealing the name Sarah James—a childlike figure in 19th-century attire. Art Bell warns about FCC-backed broadband over power lines (BPL), citing FEMA’s concerns it could disrupt emergency communications like ham radio during crises such as Columbine and 9/11, while enabling surveillance risks. Callers describe sleep paralysis encounters, unexplained blood in basements, and shadowy figures, with one linking Edwards AFB’s 1989 "Star Wars" black budget craft to off-world propulsion tech using gravitational black holes. The episode blends paranormal claims with warnings about technological vulnerabilities, suggesting hidden forces may influence both phenomena. [Automatically generated summary]
I bid you all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, whatever the case may be in the living time zone circulating this earth, all of which are covered one way or the other by this program known as Code Ghost AM.
But if you have something really dramatic, really interesting to say, then I'm all over it.
So we'll get to that shortly, and also in a moment, we're going to do a couple things on ham radio tonight.
The first is a ham operator that I talked to on...
And he's all the way over in Florida, but of late he has begun to send me some emails indicating there's something in his house that ought not be there.
His name is Tom.
And for the hams in the audience, he is KN4LF.
That's Kilibon, Nancy 4, London Foxtrot.
And something very strange has begun to happen in Tom's house.
Well, it all started on August 22nd, 2002, which is coincidentally my wife's birthday.
We were living in a ranch-style house out in the country in the Plant City area near Tampa is where we're located.
And we awoke one morning and immediately noticed some strange things, which you would call, I guess, poltergeist type of happenings.
I have a chest of drawers, and I always store, to this day, still store my wallet and my wristwatch in that top drawer of that chest of drawers.
Well, when I got up and went over there, there's my wallet out up on top of a three-candle sconce hanging on the wall, and my watch is sitting on a stick of, I guess you could say, crack cream, you know, when you get the dry hand.
So that was day one.
That was the very first what I would consider to be a paranormal event.
Have you actually seen anything move in the air, that kind of thing?
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Absolutely.
Many times I would describe it as shadowy type of figures in my peripheral vision.
And several times, it's hard to describe a mass of color changing colors with no form.
And then another time, I know it kind of sounds silly, but that movie Alien that was on years ago when he pushes the button and you can't see him and he reflects everything around him.
I saw something that looked just like that and it passed right directly square in my vision.
And I've tried to get her to give me her age, but she won't, so it leads me to believe she may be an older person.
But before she actually started writing her name down, she actually woke me up in the middle of the night, as crazy as it sounds, running her hands through my hair.
Well, she was about four feet tall, appeared to be a young girl, child, maybe six, seven, eight years old, wearing what I would consider to be 19th century clothing.
Kind of like little house on a prairie type of dresses.
Do you have any idea, feelings at all, even about what Sarah might want?
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I don't know.
You know, it's just been so much has happened.
And it's like, well, why are you doing this?
What do you want?
Do you want to go home?
What's the deal?
I don't know if it's we're so open-minded now about all of this is that she's just finally able to communicate with somebody because she's been around for so long.
Tom and his family, obviously, have something going on right now.
Something that calls herself Sarah James.
Tom's actually seen her.
just a few more questions for time in a moment because you don't frequently get to talk to someone who's got it happening to home right now you're welcome Back now to Tom in Florida.
Solid, like I like to call it within that bag of salt water.
And appeared to be about four feet tall, young girl, maybe six or seven years old, long brown hair and dark eyes, and was wearing what I would consider to be 19th century clothing that a young girl would wear.
Have there been any messages written from Sarah other than her name?
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No, no, nothing at all.
But, you know, I continue to, as I say, have the one-way conversations with her and continue to ask her new questions and hopefully we'll get more answers.
Is there anything at all that you can connect with her first appearance, the first time you all began to notice these things occurring, and anything that was going on at that time?
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No, I can't.
I can't.
It was just a very sudden beginning, and it's totally baffling, you know.
Listen, I can't tell you how I appreciate this, and I would like to stay in touch with you on this story so that we can kind of follow it to whatever conclusion it might have.
unidentified
Yes, because I don't think we're anywhere near that yet.
There's the experience of one man in Florida and his family with something that obviously is here, and I guess fairly obviously from another time or still here.
While, and before we leave the subject of amateur radio, as you know, last week, I hope you know anyway, last Saturday, I had a very great deal to say and did, oh, I don't know, about an hour and a half on this coming wicked technological advance, you better put advance in quotes from my point of view, called BPL or broadband over the power lines.
It is a move of the Federal Communications Commission and certainly the power industry to put the internet in every single wall socket in America.
In fact, there have been a couple of presidential words about this recently, and presidential hopefuls have said words about it as well.
While not specifically saying BPL, they're beginning to set target dates for the entire nation to be wired.
Now, the trouble with, of course, the way they're going about this BPL business is that they're going to take everything roughly from 2 to 80 megahertz.
Now, that includes, so that you understand, everything either including or just above the standard AM broadcast band, all the way up into the, well, of near FM, near the FM band.
And that would be inclusive of the entire shortwave brand.
All the emergency broadcasting that goes on, or a very great deal of it on HF frequencies, would be affected, degraded, ham radio operators might turn out to be dinosaurs along with CB operators and people who operate channel 2, 3, 4, 5, and even 6.
And so before I said what I said last week, Amateur Radio Newsline, which is an interesting organization that does reports of interest to amateur radio operators, and then it's played back on repeaters and on the air in various places, they called me and they interviewed me.
Usually it's the other way around.
I'm usually giving interviews.
In this case, they interviewed me on the subject of BPL, this horrid, onrushing phantasm of, in my opinion, noise-making technology.
Anyway, they interviewed me, and so I thought it might be interesting to play that interview for you.
Here it is in its entirety.
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Amateur Radio Newsline report number 1389 with the release date of Friday, March 26, 2004 to follow in 5-4-3-2-1.
The following is a QST.
A popular talk show host says no to BPL.
And REACT gives its support to the Amber Alert System.
Find out the details on Amateur Radio Newsline report number 1389.
Coming your way right now.
From around the world, this is Newsline, Amateur Radio's independent on-the-air news and bulletin service.
Now from Charleston, West Virginia, with Jim Dameron, N-A-T-M-W.
I'm Jeff Clark, K-8JAC.
Well, if it did not know before, a large portion of the American public's now keenly aware of the danger that broadband overpower line internet access poses to the nation's emergency communications infrastructure.
And you can thank Radio Talk Show host Art Bell, W6OBB, and ARRRL President Jim Haney, W5JBP, for bringing much of it to everyone's attention.
Amateur Radio Newslines Mark Abramovich and T3V had an opportunity to speak with the internationally famous radio talker and has the rest of the story.
From the high desert of the great American Southwest, a call to arms has been sounded.
From his home base in Perrump, Nevada, W6 Oscar Bravo Bravo, better known to millions of commercial radio listeners as Art Bell, has called on America to stand up and fight what he charges is the greatest threat to the nation's security, broadband over power line.
Bell charges BPL will cripple the nation's emergency communications backbone, striking at the heart of homeland security.
Bell picked up the charge against BPL during his radio show broadcast Saturday, March 20th, in which he introduced ARRRL President Jim Haney, W-5 Juliet Bravo Papa, to his audience.
Haney and Bell pointed out the BPL interference threat extends far beyond the amateur bans.
Both Haney and Bell warned that many police and fire companies, federal disaster agencies, and the FBI and military would be rendered helpless if BPL is rolled out across the nation.
Bell says he's especially worried about the potential of another major attack against the United States and what BPL would do to our nation's ability to communicate.
The emergency communications, my God, aircraft, amateur radio, FEMA, any other emergency agencies that are going to have to rely On HF communications.
We certainly can't depend on satellites.
As a matter of fact, if we should get into a conflict, some sort of major conflict, the satellites will be the very first thing that will go.
And minus satellites for communications, we're dependent on the good old-fashioned short wave bands, VHF, UHF, the whole schmear, to keep our nation talking.
And in a time of national emergency, we need to be able to talk to each other.
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Fell says he's appalled at the behavior of the Federal Communications Commission.
He says they're acting like cheerleaders instead of regulators.
He charges corporate greed is driving BPL and ignoring the studies showing the technology, as proposed on the HF bands, won't work without causing massive interference.
I've always had the deepest respect for the Federal Communications Commission.
However, I think that in recent years there have been a lot of changes at the FCC that include the fact that there aren't so many engineers at the Commission any longer, but there are a lot of bureaucrats.
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Bell says he believed after reading the Federal Emergency Management Agency's assessment of BPL that the findings would have been enough to shut it down.
They essentially said, look, our receivers and transmitters are not going to be able to function with BPL in place, and they specified the power levels they would have to go to to continue to communicate and suggested the taxpayers wouldn't be able to afford such changes.
So with that kind of filing, frankly, when it came out, I thought BPL was dead.
Boy, was I wrong.
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After doing more research, Bell says he decided to take the case to his listeners, and he says the only way to do it is to point out the risk to their safety.
I don't think we're going to combat it by saying, save ham radio.
The public doesn't care enough.
And I'm sorry to have to say that, but that's what I believe.
I love ham radio.
It's been my life.
I've been a ham since I was 12.
But the greater, larger American public just doesn't care enough about ham radio.
And if they think they can, you know, plug in their computer to the wall and have instant internet, that's a more attractive idea to them than the guy down the block with the tower in the air.
I'm going to do a radio program on 500 radio stations nationwide, including the top 50 markets in the U.S. And I'm going to do everything I can to drive this home as hard as I can that communications, and certainly ham radio is part of that emergency communications chain.
There's no question about that.
But emergency communications across the board are threatened by BPL.
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Bell says all hams need to wake up and heed his call to action.
We need to get the word out to the general public and begin to have them write to their congressman, their senator.
And that's the only approach that I see at this point with a juggernaut that is presently underway from the Federal Communications Commission and the industry.
The only way we're going to stop it is to make the general public aware of the threat.
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Bell says there are other issues, including interference to TV channels 2 through 6, residual noise to the AM radio bands, and virtual loss of C V bands used by the many truckers who listen to his show.
He says there are also privacy issues, especially the potential of the government and large companies to track people and their habits and choices on a BPL system.
For the amateur radio newsline, I'm Mark Abramovich and T3V in Philadelphia.
Bill currently hosts the weekend edition of Coast to Coast AM.
He also indicates that his presentation on Saturday, March the 20th, was only round one.
He's lining up other guests to talk about the BPL issues in the near future.
To find out when, keep checking the show's website at www.co.coastcoastam.com.
Really weird to be interviewed when, generally, you are the one doing the interviewing.
It's very strange having the tables turned on you.
Well, BPL.
Now, why should the American public perhaps not want BPL?
Well, are you concerned about our nation's emergency communications?
You ought to be.
We're in a war.
We are in a war.
These are people who just simply want to kill us.
They don't want to talk to us.
They don't want us to change our national policy.
They want us dead.
And therefore, we have to go after them.
And this is going to be a rough fight.
This is the old fight to the death thing, right?
And in that, we need to keep our emergency communications.
So shutting them down or crippling them with something like BPL is just plain stupid.
hello and then there is another issue and that is once they have
Maybe a little, but once they have internet and electricity in every single wall socket in your home, then the first thing that's going to happen is there are going to be all kinds of appliance companies that are going to have your use reported back to them so they can better serve you.
And that'll be the beginning of it.
And of course, anytime you've got electricity and two-way internet, why that would mean with the smallest little inconspicuous bug, somebody in Helsinki, Finland could be watching or listening to everything you do in your home.
If ever there was a path, an introduction, a welcome, a big brother into America, it would be the possibilities engendered by this technology Coming at us at the speed of light, quite literally, I guess.
And it would seem as though the Federal Communications Commission is cheerleading the event through the Bush administration's urgings, no doubt.
But, you know, I think that it would be wise, in view of what we're sacrificing to achieve this dubious goal, it might be wise for us to stop.
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Wait, take a look, decide if it's really the right thing to do.
A lot of other countries tried it, too, and they tossed it out on its ear because it was interfering with everything.
So I'm trying to raise your awareness about BPL.
And I guess I'm asking you to simply write to your senator or congressperson, really just dash off a quick note and say, on this BPL issue, it's called broadband over power lines, please find a way to slow it down enough so we can study all of this much more carefully.
And if we're making a mistake, then we might have a chance of deciding it's not such a good road to go down.
And we might be making a mistake.
I think there's enough weight over on the side of, hey, wait a minute here.
Do we really want to trash all of the shortwave bands?
Do we really want that technology in our home, whether we want it or not?
I'm not so shy, and I love the internet.
I've got the internet delivered in a million different ways here, but I really don't want it mixed in with my electricity in every wall socket in my home, throughout the walls of my entire home.
I really don't want that.
And while they say that this will be the grand, it'll just be the panacea that will bring broadband internet to the farthest reaches of our country, don't kid yourselves.
That's what cable said.
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They said, oh, we'll bring perfect TV to the people out in the boondocks in the rural areas of America.
It is, and we're about to enter the unscreened underbelly of the genetic pool of the United States.
In other words, we're about to have open lines.
Anything can happen.
Absolutely anything.
And that's up to you.
So if you've got a story of high interest, a dramatic tale to tell of some sort, then we're about to come to you.
So what we're going to do, I do want to, again, because probably it will not be on the website After tonight, but I ran into one of the most profound things on the internet that I've run into ever on the internet.
You know, it really is that good.
It's called Riding Through Chernobyl, and it's about a young lady named Elena.
She is, she's, I don't know, she's very brave or very dumb or I don't know.
What she does is she rides through the dead areas, and I mean dead areas, the cities that house people no longer, the cities that people had to abandon instantly, or at least as soon as they were told to, around Chernobyl.
And I guarantee that after you have taken this tour, there will be a profound effect on you.
The photographs will have a profound effect on you.
And you will think all kinds of things like what man can do to himself, because these are staggering pictures, staggering.
You will wonder about the use of nuclear power at any level.
You'll at least wonder.
And, you know, it's a profound experience.
Take my advice, and before this riding through Chernobyl thing goes off, you get on and take the tour.
Trust me on this.
Other than that, let's see what else is going on.
White House in trouble on the 9-11 thing.
Condoles Rai is probably not going to testify.
Gas prices.
Oh, gas prices.
Have you seen them?
In California, they're headed rapidly now toward the $3 gallon.
And when we're at these kinds of prices for gas at this time of year in summer, the vacation period, which generally bumps another 5 cents or more to the cost, is just ahead of us.
You know we're headed toward $3 a gallon.
So I guess we're about to have some kind of gas crisis, it looks like.
A whirling storm battered the coast of southern Brazil.
This is a storm, shouldn't have even been there.
It was a hurricane born off the coast of Brazil.
They don't birth there, folks.
They birth off the coast of Africa.
But this one did.
Defying the scientists who say it can't happen.
In fact, down in Brazil, the scientists are saying it's not a hurricane.
Our scientists here in the U.S. are saying, oh, yes, it is.
At least category one.
Winds as high as 94 miles an hour.
It has an eye.
It has a traditional, from the satellite view, of a hurricane.
And it has 90.
Oh, it's a hurricane.
It shouldn't be there, but it is there.
And now in Brazil, it has killed.
weather is in fact changing So, no screeners, no safety nets.
The average person has got to be able to afford this technology.
And if ever there was a good reason to give a subsidy for something, tax breaks, and you know, it's common knowledge That there are some given, but I mean, more tax breaks, whatever it takes to get people to begin to enmass, purchase the solar panels and inverters and the kinds of things that will, at least, at the very least, augment the power we use.
I mean, you know, there was a guy, another guy I flat out believed, period, it's going on.
It's happening.
That's pretty interesting.
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Very interesting.
I had a very weird happening when I was in the military 30 years ago.
And I was in, I guess I was in a haunted room in a barracks.
And didn't realize it until I, you know, finally things got so bad that my roommate, another woman, had walked in, saw a look on my face, and asked what was wrong.
And I told her, and then you know, well, at that particular moment, I had been napping after work.
It was early evening, and it was dark, you know, sort of wintertime.
We were on a temporary hold between boot camp and school.
And I don't believe she told me that she saw anything move either.
But when she had walked into the room and we started to tell each other about what had been happening for the past three or four weeks to each of us individually in this room, I had been taking a nap and I woke up.
And you know how sometimes you're paralyzed, but your eyes are open?
And the next thing you know, it's like a scene out of the exorcist.
Now, I'm alone in the room.
My roommate is still at work.
And the bed starts to, well, the first thing that happens is that a jet, like you're right underneath a jet airplane engine, roaring in my head and vibrating, just tremendous noise.
Just really frightening, frightening noise.
And then the vibration starts to move.
I didn't really feel it in my body, but my body was actually moving, or I don't know if it was my body, my physical body, but whatever.
Moving like in the exorcist up and down in the bed.
They tell me, though, that if you can conquer that fear and then just sort of go with the flow, that you're going to leave your body and have a wonderful experience.
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You know, in subsequent years, I've had three or four out-of-body experiences that were not like that one.
Using different techniques.
But this was, I felt as though someone were dragging me out of my body against my will is what I felt.
Maybe there was something in that room that wanted you out of your bodies.
Perhaps it wanted possession.
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Like, for instance, you're sitting on a cot, you're reading a book, and all of a sudden you hear this bizarre music wafting in from the window on the wind.
Not the kind of music that anybody was listening to.
You know, it was mostly young people.
Maybe 10 rooms in this whole barracks were occupied with just a rock and roll.
So after we tell each other about these weird things that happened to us when we were alone in the room, this phenomenon began while we were together in the room, while we were talking.
I wonder what you could do with a sixth finger that, you know, I sat looking at my hands after the show and wondered about, well, there's only one thumb, right?
Now, you're talking about something that's going to wipe out all communications, and let alone ham, radio, or anything else, even though it will hurt it and hurt it badly.
Yeah, how smart is this at a moment when you're in a war, at a moment when you're going to need, obviously need, a really good chain of emergency communications?
How smart is this?
Well, no, it's not smart at all.
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It just doesn't make any sense to me.
I'm surprised that some of the big broadcast companies aren't fighting this a little more because they own several AM stations in a market.
It amazes me that they're not trying to fight this.
And I've been a little rough on ham radio in that sense by saying that, you know, look, the public doesn't give enough of a damn about ham operators over that.
But for their own reasons, and they've got plenty of them.
They ought to be writing their congresspeople, their senators, and saying, look, at the very least, let's slow down and quit cheerleading from government for something before we've fully investigated it.
Let's see if it's really going to hurt us more than it's going to help us.
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You know, I agree with you about ham radio art.
I really do, that not enough people care.
But if we really are in a war and if something happens, and God only knows what can happen, in this situation, many things could happen.
Look, whenever there's a terrible hurricane or a terrible earthquake, any major disaster, all the news services always get the first word, and we'll quote, you know, amateur radio operators were heard to report or heard to say that blah, blah, blah is true or has happened.
It's always the first communications out of anywhere.
But this BPL, this broadband over the power lines, will not be stopped by ham radio, even though it's going to disable or destroy it, along with CB radio and all the other shortwave things that are in there.
It's going to be an intrusion into your home, a potential terrible intrusion into your home.
It's going to be the beginning of the real big brother.
Just track with me here, internet in every single wall socket in your home.
Okay, well, anyway, he's a sheriff of Debaca County, and he's getting a court order to exhume the grave.
It's been on the news all over the country the last couple weeks.
And I think the reason why they're doing it is because there's always been people that were close to Billy that claimed that that was not him, that Pat Garrett killed, that the whole thing was staged so that Calvary and everyone else would quit looking for him.
Okay, well, in Young Guns 2, it starts out in 1950, and this actually happened in 1950.
This 92-year-old guy comes out of the desert, and he met an attorney, drives up in a 1949 Chevrolet, and he's getting ready to die, and he wants to go before the New Mexico governor to get the pardon that Governor Wallace promised Billy the Kidd in 1881 if he would turn state's evidence against the bad guys, you know, the Lincoln County War.
And he had several older people that identified him, the real Billy the Kid, but he was not given his pardon.
So anyway, I guess they're trying to settle this once and for all, but I wish you, and I think there's a lot of your listeners out there, would wish that you could get the sheriff of Debaca County as a guest on your show.
I've been doing some surveillance work, and as you know, you listen to any kind of music, it doesn't matter what kind, it'll put you to sleep after a while.
If you could go down to the department, maybe the evidence room, whatever, I mean, surely somebody kept a little bit of such an interesting sample, you would think, you would hope.
And could you find out for me if in fact they did?
And if in fact they did, could you email me or get hold of me somehow?
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I could try, but I personally can't get out.
The only person I can access that are the higher-ups.
Well, listen, hang in there, and thank you a million.
The BPL issue is a gigantic issue.
And so any help from any of you that we can solicit, and at this point, you know, we're asking, I think the right thing to do is to ask that, look, please stop the headlong rush into something before we understand the consequences.
When you're tampering with something as precious as the nation's frequencies, our air, and that is precious.
It really still is extremely precious from a national security point of view and a lot of points of view.
Stop and find out if you're about to make a big mistake.
And it won't hurt to take a little extra time to examine if perhaps the Japanese, who are not exactly technological slouches, didn't kick this out of their country because they just felt like it.
They had a very good, sound technological reason to boot it out.
I had an email yesterday that I just is like, oh, man.
Stone Age people.
Basically, this email said, you know, kill all the blacks, kill all the Jews.
Hey, you know what's the right thing to do.
This kind of email.
And when I see something like that, I wonder how far have we really come very far?
I mean, how many of these people are there?
We have the Nazis, right?
And do you ever wonder, could that happen again?
Well, maybe it could, because we have people who will discriminate against other people to the point of final solutions because they're different in some way, either religiously or physically or whatever, some difference.
And so if you're not like every other human with the five digits upon each hand, well, then you're in for getting beatings or whatever.
And if that's still really true, then how far have we come?
I mean, I'm sure that a lot of corporate interests, you know, power companies think this is a way to fast money or our government thinks it's a way to fast mass communications.
But look here, there are possible consequences to what they're about to do.
They involve our national security in a moment when we are at war.
Let's slow up a little.
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Yeah, and speaking of that, the reason why I call, and for me, I don't listen to shortwave or computer or TV or computer, and I just have a shortwave.
So I was listening to a talk show the other day, and a caller noted that there were 911 days from 9-11, 2001 leading up to 3-11 in 2004.
Whether numbers on their own have significance or not, I haven't made up my mind about that one.
But, you know, we celebrate anniversaries, and we do that in some cases by having violence and killing people on anniversaries of certain things.
So, yeah, we attach importance to numbers.
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Well, here, I want to say, I want to continue this.
Knowing the significance given to the numbers 6, 11, and 13, or multiples thereof, by the occultic controllers, you know, who are trying to phase in this new world order, I continued counting the days leading up to 6, 6, 2004.
there will try and imagine if you were trying to listen to shortwave and all you could hear is Yeah, well, that's what BPL is about to bring us, my dear.
And so the shortwave broadcasters ought to be real concerned, too.
You're on the Air Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell.
It's just there's something about things flying through, things don't do that, period.
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And then one day we were at home, and calcum powder, we were sitting on the bed talking, and calcum powder is a powder, started flying through the air.
But this is the one thing that got us, that made us move our, is I went down to the to the local guest house to pick up some good German beer.
Yes.
And I took my time.
I came back and my wife was laying on the bed.
She was crying.
Oh, just yelling, crying.
And I said, what's wrong, baby, you know?
And she said, something is making love to me, and it hurts.
Something is making love to me, and it hurts having sex with me.
So I grabbed her and I put my arms around her and I held her.
And eventually it went away.
But she was saying that it did penetrate and make love to her.
I guess it's hard to talk about because it's radio, right?
We're doing a radio program.
But with last night's guest, who was a remote viewer and countless remote viewers before him and countless others who have talked about holdergeist ghost activity and possession weaving its way through all of this and at a level that we really can't talk about on the air.
There really is an awful lot of sexual content to this whole thing.
I mean, more than I ever imagined when I first began investigating the paranormal.
I'm coming to realize that there really is a gigantic sexual aspect to it.
From out-of-body experiences to remote viewing, in which those who practice constantly are reporting sexual liaisons with partners with perhaps who they know or in many cases who they don't know, as in the case of the phone call you just heard.
In other words, there really is an awful lot more sex involved in all of this than I had ever realized.
And I think that is worth noting and maybe calling attention to.
It's just one of those things that because of, you know, because it's radio, it's kind of hard to talk about without it sounding somewhat gratuitous.
But it's not gratuitous.
I'm telling you that wrapped in the paranormal, I'm beginning to get more and more reports of sexual contact.
So I guess we need to sort of bridge the gap a little, and even if it sounds a little gratuitous, and I don't know how it cannot explore the whole thing and find out what really is going on here, why is there such a sexual content to paranormal occurrences?
Is it because it's such a powerful, basic human drive?
I guess that might be it.
It's certainly prevalent on this side, so why not the other side as well?
from the high desert in the middle of the night this is coast to coast here the the I can't survive, can't stay alive without your love.
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Oh baby, don't hold me this way Oh baby,
don't hold me this way Oh
baby, don't hold me this way Now that's the kind of music you have, you want to have drifting through your window.
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There are many, many people across the internet, across the world who follow the significance of numbers, and I've not yet made up my mind whether they actually have independent significance or whether we simply attach significance to them.
either way i suppose that makes them important you Once again, a leap into the gene pool.
That's something I'm very interested in doing, actually.
Yes.
But I haven't seen too many strange things in my life.
However, the one strange thing I believe I've seen has to do with this power plant.
It took place maybe around 10 years ago, and I was coming back from downtown Toronto into my small town, and I'm driving on the highway, and I notice a small cloud just over the power plant.
And this is just at dawn.
There's no other clouds in the sky.
It's not raining or anything.
And there's a lightning bolt starting just above the cloud and ending just below it.
Oh, no kidding.
And it keeps on repeating like that.
And it didn't look like your regular lightning either.
It was just, it was a small little bolt going through the small little cloud over and over again.
She is from the San Francisco area and travels all over the world, but she and her husband have taken many groups to Chernobyl and work with the sorrow of the people of Chernobyl.
I want to interview this young lady who does the fast bike rides through Chernobyl and to Paul's Hardgrass.
And as that, I'd like to interview your friend.
unidentified
Yeah, she has such experience over all these years with them.
But one of the things that we need to be reminded of is, and I think of it here in the Northwest, we love our forests.
Those people are forest people.
And, you know, the elms, the elms of Russia, and they can never go into their forests again.
One of the things that Joanna Macy does is she plays, and she will, and you will love this, she plays a very simple song by, I think the young woman is a Latvian, and it's haunting.
Well, I was noting the seemingly increasing sexual content in these kinds of stories.
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
Well, for the past few months, about three times a week, I have this entity type thing.
It seems like entering my room and doing weird things while I'm sleeping.
What I'll do is on an average night, when these nights happen, I go to bed while I'm sleeping.
I seem that I wake up and there's this, it seems like old woman with weird teeth and this weird hat and long strangly hair standing over me, messing up the sheets on my bed.
But I just stand there and stare, or lay there staring.
The thing is, I wake up in the morning, and I know this is true, because what I do is I go to bed, I lay down on my back, I fall asleep, I wake up, the sheets aren't even on the bed anymore.
Yeah, well, she says she goes to sleep and she wakes up and she yells at me or elbow me in the middle of the night, you know, saying, You're taking the sheets.
Well, it ain't me, it's the ghost hitting me, not you.
This is the thing.
She's crazy.
I honestly think there's something wrong here.
It happens three times a week.
I've talked to my doctor.
My doctor says it's REM.
He goes, this is happening during REM, an eye movement, something like that.
Well, I mean, is she more like a rodent or an insect?
unidentified
Hey, talk about synchronicity.
Richard Hoagland was talking about Lear's statement saying he wasn't totally, oh God, what was the term he used?
Anyway, he wasn't totally into what Lear said about the square cube on the moon, but he said something a moment or two later about we're behind the eight ball.
On the TV, I got a bike show on.
There's a bike they showed just then that says behind the eight ball in the tank.
I just went on the air and I said, you know, I'm sorry, the new pictures that seem to contain implements or this or that, you know, they name it like NASA names are rocks.
That I didn't necessarily see the same thing that Richard's seeing.
I see rocks.
Lots and lots of rocks.
But that's really all I see, to be honest with you.
So you're paralyzed, and here the little creatures are.
And very quickly, what happened?
unidentified
Okay, and they're just sitting there, and I keep trying to get up, and I'm like getting up out of bed to switch the lights on, and then I get to shoot back into my body again, try to do that again, and it happens like maybe a dozen times or so, and then I just fade off into sleep and wake up in the morning.
You always learn something that you ought to know.
And tonight's lesson would appear to be that I guess we should do a show or focus in on the sexual aspects of the paranormal.
And I'm not sure how we do that on radio without appearing to be gratuitous, but evidently, I mean, very evidently, according to the fast blasts I'm getting, the emails I'm getting, and all of you on the phone, there is a definite strong sexual content in the paranormal.
People are, of course, probably not going to want to talk about it, but enough of them are beginning to now that it's obvious there is a big component here.
And I'm not sure how we go after this without appearing gratuitous and getting into areas we maybe ought not get into.
But on the other hand, if this is real, then we have very little choice.
will have to pursue it in some manner.
Even the researchers, the serious scientists that you talk to in the paranormal area, all light up very temporarily when you mention or ask about the sexual aspect of the paranormal, but they're loath to discuss it for obvious reasons.
It's just that, gee, this does seem to be a big aspect of it, doesn't it?
And for obvious reasons, it hasn't been publicly discussed a great deal, but maybe it's more than we thought it was, which means there is some sort of duty to explore in that area, I guess, ever so carefully.
How do you think that those large stones were moved?
unidentified
I think that they had a method, possibly sound or whatever.
There's a myth of an Irish druid who had a flying machine.
He had a battle with another druid.
It crashed.
And even yourself, you interviewed one night a fellow from Eastern Canada, I believe, who was building a stone flying saucer that he said he was getting that he had gotten the.
And he was telling how it was put together and held together, and the information was given to him from somebody from some other planet or actually, I think, another dimension.
All right, well, I think it's fair to say that someone at some time did have knowledge that has either been lost or has all this time been hidden away from the rest of us.
That things were done that were literally impossible.
I mean, simply impossible.
The Coral Castle in Florida is a very good example of that in more modern times.
That occasionally this power is stumbled upon, perhaps, by somebody, like the man who built the Coral Castle.
And that might not surprise, or perhaps should not surprise us, that there were things that once were and were quite powerful and have been forgotten or hidden away from us.
Certainly.
Hi there, you're on the air, Coast of Coast A.M. with the art bell.
I believe I saw my mother's ghost, and she's still alive.
My father died in 98.
I believe I heard his whisper a week after he died.
And I was in a comat post state of mind for a little while one time, and I believe I've seen a black-haired Jesus Christ appeared in a coma to me.
Lots of your stories, I've been talking for a long time, too bad I didn't all record.
I thought it came out for what they say, that you have it all on tape or something, you could tell me what I was talking about so I wouldn't miss anything.
I appreciate the attempt and all the things that you apparently have seen and even all the things we didn't get to hear about because you were doing them four to five minutes before I arrived on the line.
But you've apparently seen quite a lot, and who are we to say that you did not?
I mean, how do you ever know somebody reports something like that, and how can you ever know if they're telling the truth or not?
All you can do is try and follow up in some way.
But if you have what sounds like a credible report of somebody admitting they're doing something like this, then obviously you want to take a couple of steps to try and find out if it's bull or if there's something really behind it.
And if there is, you definitely want to follow up on a call like that.
Well, we are going to have to do something with this now, obviously, aren't we?
I really have no idea.
Well, I did have an idea.
It's not right to say I didn't have an idea, but talking to some researchers, you listen very carefully to somebody when you're doing an interview, if you're smart.
The smart interviewers listen to what the person they're interviewing says.
And if you listen very carefully, you'll notice that between many of the words, when they get to this subject, there's the underlying forceful impression that there's more to it than they're willing to talk about.
And now I'm getting that from all of you.
So it looks like it's going to be important we look into this.
All right, let me look into this.
West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
Hello.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
I'm Anne from Richland, Washington, and I had an experience with, I guess I would be a sexual experience with an entity.
My guess would be that 99 out of 100 people like you would have done exactly what you did, report it to no one.
unidentified
It was too unbelievable.
We felt that the few other experiences we'd had, we had discussed with friends, and they all looked at us like we were living to.
So we quit sharing our experiences, and now we keep them just in the family.
My children know about it.
Yes, they're aware of the experiences.
They too have been followed, I guess.
Or I don't know how else to say it.
At the same time, we had a 16-year-old daughter that was living with her grandmother in Utah, and she was followed constantly by what we would describe as men in black.
If this really is a very serious side of the paranormal, one that's unexplored and hasn't been paid attention to, particularly in the public, well, then we absolutely do want to go down that road.
so i'm listening a little more but if it's that heavy duty yes we do All right, I'll tell you what we'll do.
This seems like the way to proceed to me.
Let's see how widespread and serious this is.
Now, how can we do that?
Well, not fully knowing what I'm getting myself in for here, why don't we do this?
If you have experiences that relate to a sexual assault or a sexual, it might not necessarily be an assault, but a sexual encounter involving the paranormal, then how about an email?
Send me an email.
If you are a researcher who is willing to talk openly about this, and you can do so without naming patients, that kind of thing, then also email me.
In other words, what I'm doing is soliciting information on this.
I want to see how common this really is and consider doing a program on it.
So here's my email address.
There are two of them, actually.
You may reach me, Artbell, A-R-T-B-E-L-L, at mindspring.com.
Artbell all in lowercase A-R-T-B-E-L-L at mindspring.com or artbell at aol.com.
And that's the way I guess we can test the waters, both with the pros, that is to say, the researchers in this area.
If there are some who would like to talk who have not previously done so on this specific topic.
Or if you would like to communicate by email and you have a story to tell, then please by all means fire away, artbell at mindspring.com or artbell at aol.com.
And through that means, we'll find out how much there really is to this.
I just wanted to make a comment about entities and so forth.
Not of a sexual nature, but first time I've actually talked about this, I was previously married and we have two small children.
One of our smallest child, I noticed that at times, when in her crib, she would sometimes cry and do an act like someone would be playing with her, but she'd always stare at a corner in her room.
Just like someone would be talking to her or whatnot.
It didn't happen all the time, but it was more out of the blue than anything.
This particular room, none of our animals would go into that room.
None at all.
Sometimes my dog would follow me in there, but they'd high tail it out.
It's pretty well known that children, and by that I mean from infants perhaps, once you've got your vision and your hearing and you're beginning to get it together as an infant, from about that time on until we are taught otherwise, that we see things that we would not ordinarily see.
Children, infants, animals, they all seem to share that in common.
Have you ever noticed?
They seem to see things, invisible playmates or things that cats chase across the floor in some crazy manner, and we don't see them, but they're chasing or looking at something.
And then perhaps human children, as they grow, are talked out of this silliness.
You don't really see that.
And then eventually, of course, you don't really see that.
I supplied equipment to government contractors in Southern California and covered Edwards Air Force Base and China Lake and that Lockheed Hellendale facility while it was under construction.
And as I was being escorted in, the contractor that I was with, we were kind of walking, I was walking behind him, and there was this building, and my hair started standing up.
And there was a small porthole type thing that was kind of not fastened.
And I, curiosity picked the best of me.
I looked inside.
And in that split second later, he grabbed a hold of me and kept putting his finger to his mouth.
Don't say a word.
Well, you know, pretty much he was pretty intent on it.
And it seemed to, I knew it had to be something electromagnetic because my hair was kind of like when you're, you know, my escorts was doing the same thing.
Well, a year later, he retired, and he came down into our main facility to, he started a little side business, and I told him I wasn't going to give him a thing until he told me what it was I saw.
And he told me that that's where the Star Wars project went when they said it wasn't going to work and became a black project.
He said these things, there's about probably 40 or 50 of them up there.
And the way he described the way it was propulsed was if you take your hand in a bathtub and pull your hand forward half into the tub, whatever's behind it's pulled into it.
He said this thing projects a hole and it projects it up, forward, back, or whatever.
It can't be manned because there's no way that anybody could stand the volume.
I find it difficult in a decision in such as a massive decision as such that it would disrupt not only my CB, but the fact that all your allies rely on HF.
I'm telling you right now, you better convert your talk into sitting down.
I know it takes a minute to take out a piece of paper, but this is something you've got to do.
Don't do it on the Internet.
Commit it to paper.
Write to your senator.
Write to your congressman and say and beg for common sense listing the reasons, the very good reasons for looking hard at this technology before taking a jump that we're going to regret as a nation.
unidentified
What's going to happen with your allies?
I'm from Canada, okay?
I'm ex-military myself.
I've used HF and I've communicated with your counterparts in the military.
The Air Force air-to-ground system will be wiped right out.
it's a terrible mistake and what we need is enough time for the engineers who I know are in the FCC who are They were just shaking their head about this.
But, you know, the leadership there is bent on doing this, and it's kind of like, you know, they have jobs and families.
But if you talk to the engineers, even at the FCC, they're just shaking their heads.
What the hell are we doing?
unidentified
What are we going to do?
I know SATCOMs are nice to have, but I've been a longtime listener.
I've been following the solar flare situation and all that good stuff.
And you turn around, you have to sit back and go, hmm, does this make real good sense?
I don't care if it's a postcard or a letter to your congressman or senator.
It's the only thing that's going to work.
And I'm not even saying don't do it.
There may be alternatives like running it at a couple of gigahertz or whatever and get it, not wiping out the whole shortwave ban and emergency communications, the whole mess they're talking about.
On that, I believe it was a lady who was recovered and had been living a feral life all her life.
unidentified
Well, you know, when I first listened to it, I thought, boy, that's a crock.
Maybe out in the middle of the Philippines or in the middle of Borneo or something, there's a feral human that was raised by a few years, about 1970 or so.
It has been a pleasure in more ways than one, certainly an honor to be here on the weekends.
George will be back tomorrow, and between now and next we need, I'm going to be reviewing these emails that I hope on the subject of sexuality and the paranormal you will be quick to send.
But for tonight, from the high desert, where the stars are lined up behind the moon in such a beautiful manner, I'm Art Bell.
Good night.
unidentified
Will take us on a ride Fuel with belonging, searching for the truth.