Art Bell hosts Maj. Ed Dames, a retired PSIINT remote viewer, who reveals shadow government plans like FEMA’s emergency powers and Mount Weather’s encoded radio frequencies (10493/5211 kHz). Dames outlines three UFO strategies—Plan C targets North America’s fossil fuels as "feedstock"—and warns of China’s secret wheat bio-weapon to cripple U.S. space dominance. He predicts North Korea’s nuclear strike in WWIII (ongoing since 1990) and catastrophic solar winds (300 mph), urging prep in zones like Glacier National Park or Switzerland. Dames dismisses human problem-solving as irrelevant, citing inevitable global collapse tied to geophysical shifts, while stressing pure seed strains for survival amid disappearing seasons. Credibility risks force him to avoid discussing "extraterrestrials" or "God" openly. [Automatically generated summary]
And again, really, really pleased to have WABC of New York on board.
Remember I mentioned the phrase mysterious and reassuring?
I love that phrase, mysterious and reassuring.
Well, that was a phrase picked or plucked by me from the Showtime show that I'm so in love with called Dead Like Me, which applies more ways than one here.
In that program, George, who was killed...
A Russian re-entering toilet seat nailed George, and she became dead.
And then her job was to retrieve souls just before they would die violently.
You know, before somebody was going to, well, assume room temperature, as Rush would say, in some violent way.
She would take their souls, and that was her job.
She was called a Reaper, and it's kind of a comedy drama, and it's serious, and it's funny, and it's really cool.
And she was designed to make this notebook for even the dead have to have a job.
And she worked for some company called Happy Times.
And she was supposed to make some sort of, I don't know, what would you call it?
What did they call it?
It just flew right out of my mind.
a scrapbook and uh...
here her scrapbook consisted of the work she does which means that uh...
but you know the people You were about to say scrapbook, right?
Thank you.
Anyway, the work she does, which is to take people, and she would take a picture of them while they were still happy in life.
And then, you know, the other pictures were after it happened, and usually they were in pieces.
And she made a scrapbook, you know, and wasn't a big hit.
But she described it this way.
And she would show the pictures of the people in life happily marching through life.
And that was the reassuring part of the story.
And then she flipped the page and boom, here are all these dead people.
And she said, this is the mysterious part.
You know, everything is going along just fine.
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And then, boom, they pull the rug right out from under you.
Everything is just, you know, going along just fine.
Everything is just great.
And then, boom, they pull the rug right out from under you.
And you're in the Federation and the wars and stuff.
And that was pretty wild.
Now, for tonight, we're going to be very busy.
So we're going to have to get underway very quickly here.
Just one more item, though.
The webcam.
Last night I showed you a photograph from the air.
That was me hanging out of a helicopter.
Actually, hanging out of a helicopter, taking those photographs.
The guy who flew the helicopter said, you sure you want to do that?
I said, yeah, I'm sure.
When are you ever going to get the chance again?
So I hung out of the helicopter, took pictures of my house.
And last night I gave you one of the back of the house.
This is tonight's picture on the webcam.
Go to coastcoastam.com, webcam, upper left-hand corner.
You will see a picture of the front of my house.
Now, it used to be a clean picture, but one of you out there, one of you people with too much time on your hands and lots of talent with Photoshop, has modified the photograph a little bit.
So I thought I would put up the slightly modified picture of the front of my house taken from the air.
And there it is.
So you can go take a look at that if you want to.
Serious and reassuring.
In a moment, we're going to talk to a man named Harry Helms.
Harry is an amateur radio operator, W7HLH.
I'll tell you more about him in a moment.
But he's going to tell us about secret stuff, clandestine radio, pirate radio stations, things like...
I'm going to give you a little clue about what he's going to talk about.
And so you might not want to tune into this show.
Certainly you don't want your children around.
Standard warning, but listen to this.
A few of the things the Matrix Intelligence Agency is presently working on.
One, an extraterrestrial agency has been collecting a key bunch of data material from Earth for at least a thousand years, thousands of years now.
A specialized team will attempt to interdict this logistics supply route at its primary collection point.
Goal, induce contact.
Two, the People's Republic of China's most secret weapons program.
An update from Ed on the planned use of a nuclear weapon by the DPRK, Korea.
And how about this?
Kill shots, plural.
Our star, the sun, will soon go on a rampage and begin to affect, in other words, terminate Earth's living system dynamics.
Please cancel any long-term plans for your future.
And five, a note about World War III.
So as you can see, this is going to be pretty dark stuff in the next hour, as is usually the case with His Majesty Dr. Doom.
So be warned, forewarned ahead of time.
This is something you're not going to want your children to hear, nor may you even wish to hear it if you get scared easily.
So that's a little warning issued ahead of time.
In a moment, Harry Helms.
Music Harry Helms is the author of over a dozen books, mostly scientific and technical ones.
His books include Computer Language Reference Guide, Electronic Circuits Cookbook, All About Ham Radio, Shortwave Listening Guidebook, and his latest Inside, Are You're going to Love This, Inside the Shadow Government.
A former editor for such publishers as McGraw-Hill, big time in Academic Press.
He was co-founder of LLH Technology Publishing, now a full-time writer and publisher consultant.
He has written about ham, shortwave, and pirate radio for magazines like Popular Communications and Monitoring Times.
And it is the standby plans that our government has in case of a catastrophic attack on the United States that would, in effect, decapitate our national leadership.
All right, yeah, but some people call this the shadow government.
And it's a far darker connotation.
It's not an emergency government in case we get blasted to hell and Washington's gone or something, but it's a darker thing that's running the real elected government that we see now.
However, the shadow government, as I say in the book, is the sort of thing that the extent of it and the powers that are available to it, I don't even think the president himself understands the full extent of what people say, such as FEMA, are up to.
Well, for example, they have, believe it or not, real plans for relocation of people in the event of a presidential national emergency, seizing your bank account, seizing your car, or telling you that you get to relocate to a certain part of the country and work at a specified job, whether you like it or not.
The plans that could be made to accommodate it could be made in accordance with the Constitution.
And the problem is that some of these powers could be activated for some very dubious national emergencies.
For example, you might remember President Nixon imposed wage and price controls in the 70s and declared a national emergency.
The problem is that it is the president who decides what is and what is not a national emergency.
So the president could, by signing the appropriate executive order, in effect, rule like a czar for, say, a period of up to six months before Congress could overrule him.
And it's interesting that ties into some of our other topics tonight because there is actually a radio station at Mount Weather, which is operated by FEMO, which people can actually hear on the shortwave band.
I like to say looking at the sky with your naked eye and looking at it through a telescope, well, listening to radio when it's conventional AM and FM and listening to it when it's on shortwave is that same level of increased things to hear, see, experience.
There's so much out there that most people are totally unaware of.
And is that those two frequencies, is that a kind of just a system check transmission or what that is the main FEMA national emergency frequency I've got that but I mean are they coming up and transmitting as sort of a daily test or what's the deal they test about once a week and also whenever there is a national emergency or a pending national emergency those are the two frequencies you want to check they were quite humming in the first few
The traffic was primarily encoded, but some of the call signs I copied of the stations included, and these were all tactical call signs, one was Lion's Den, another one was called American Girl.
And whenever there's not only an actual or potential terrorist incident, hurricanes, natural disasters like floods, those are two frequencies that I think are worth monitoring.
Not just those folks, but police departments, the FBI, the different lettered agencies, they're all moving now into this encoded type of radio traffic that people like Harry, who they really don't want listening, can no longer listen to because it's now scrambled.
The messages are generated by the same machines used by the telephone company to tell you that you've reached an incorrect or discontinued number.
If you listen, the same inflection is on each digit.
As a general rule, if a station is transmitting numbers, typically in Spanish that we hear in North America, if they're in groups of five, they're coming from Cuba.
If they're in groups of four, they're coming from the CIA.
They have been traced by listeners using portable shortwave receivers near these sites.
And as you might imagine, they'll drop the antenna down so they're as minimally sensitive as possible, and the receiver will still overload near these transmitter sites.
There have been cases where agents have been busted, particularly in Central America, and they have found a shortwave receiver along with these messages in blocks of four that have been copied.
They use a method known as the one-time pad system.
And these signals, because they're transmitted on short wave rather than some other manner, go around the world, courtesy of the ionosphere, bouncing up to the ionosphere, back to Earth, up to the ionosphere, back to Earth, and in such a way it can go all the way around the world, right?
They can be heard throughout the world, particularly at night.
If someone will tune outside the amateur radio, ham radio bands, and the international shortwave broadcasting bands at night, tune carefully, and you'll hear several number stations without really trying.
We're at the bottom of the hour here, and I would imagine that people in Washington, CIA, are rapidly writing down these numbers and trying to crack their code.
I bet, I'm Art Bell.
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Coming to you in the dark, as always, from the high desert.
It's going to be quite a night.
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Well, Art, that was one of the more interesting experiences that I had lately.
In February of 2001, at night, listeners throughout the country were hearing what sounded like a high-pitched whistle or pulsing sound near 1140 on the AM dial.
Speculation had it that perhaps this was a Cuban jammer because there's a Spanish-language station in Miami on 1140 that Castro doesn't like.
But why was it stronger west of the Mississippi than east of the Mississippi?
I used some very advanced listening equipment, and I was able to discover the signal was actually on 1136 in between the channels on the AM band.
You're probably familiar with the principle of the directional AM loop antenna, which lets you reject stations from certain directions and get some rough direction finding on the direction find or pick up stations you want up here, pick up while rejecting the others or pick up the rejected.
Now, the other part of it is what did the FCC know and didn't tell these engineers?
It so happened toward the end of February 2001, the engineers of several stations on 1140 agreed that at midnight they were going to shut down their transmitters for a few seconds so a very accurate location could be determined for the signal.
Then I called the regional enforcement offices in California and the ones in Nevada.
They also knew nothing about it.
Then, a couple of days later, on the day when I was out, there was a message left for me by someone from the FCC who did not leave his name saying, we busted a pirate radio station in the Las Vegas area.
A pirate, you know, he's barely going to have an antenna up, and he's going to affect people in his neighborhood, maybe even within the city limits, sort of, maybe.
Oh, it must be fun to be in the government way up where you can just sort of, you know, there are no rules, really, except the ones that you make, I guess.
I suppose so, but in this case, yes, they were doing that.
And my pet theory was perhaps they were testing some sort of military-related portable transmitting station for use in psychological warfare operations.
this is something that all of you could have participated in it was going on right in the middle of the a_m_ broadcast and folks so anybody could have been People do hear strange things from time to time, but not nearly so strange as if you go to shortwave.
Now, on short wave, we have pirate stations, don't we, Harry?
All of these wannabe broadcasters, well, I guess I shouldn't say wannabe, they're doing it, are potential targets for the Federal Communications Commission, who really doesn't like that kind of thing, right?
Yes, indeed, which does not use call letters, does primarily dance music, disco music, but it operates 24-7 and here on the northwestern side of Las Vegas has a very good signal that can be heard quite well.
Have you ever, I know you can see your ham operator here, earlier in your radio career, Harry, we all have some less than white blotches early in our life.
did you ever venture into the world of maybe i shouldn't ask this should have uh...
All right, so people can listen for this sort of thing.
How much of a setup, you know, this is a frequent question I get, to listen to the kind of stuff that we've been talking about, whether it's the CIA or the Cubans or the weird signals that are broadcast, how much equipment does somebody have to have?
The advances in electronics today have meant that today for $200, you can get performance equivalent to something that would cost you several hundreds or even thousands of dollars a few years ago.
Just a simple length of insulated wire, maybe clipped to the antenna, the telescoping antenna that comes with it and outside of a window or such, will be enough to provide more than adequate signals for many of these stations, particularly those in North America.
Particularly in Central and South America, there have been cases, for example, where some listeners to shortwave stations have actually heard them being taken off the air with automatic gunfire in the background.
But that legislation did not cover these shortwave broadcasts, particularly those from stations that are unlicensed, illegal, or otherwise fail to properly identify themselves.
But if you listen during an emergency, I don't know, like 911, say, and you hear something, I don't know, earth-shaking that would be newsworthy, for example, and you turn around and turn over that tape of the broadcast to the commercial media, somebody like me.
Technically, yes, but there is an exemption in these various laws that say that if you are passing on information relating to a legitimate emergency, there is a good faith exemption there.
And to be honest, I don't know of any successful prosecution that has been made for eavesdropping or intercepting communications under these various laws.
There have been some civil suits, but I'm unaware of any criminal prosecution that has been successfully launched.
I think it's going back again to our youth in ham radio, just the sheer joy of getting on the radio, having your voice heard hundreds or thousands of miles away.
And I guess maybe that could that be why the Federal Communications Commission, when they stumble on a youngster who's just sort of off on the trip you just described, they don't really get him too hard.
Yes, did you hear what you would describe as even though you might not be able to understand a transmission, you can understand perhaps if it sounds frantic or it sounds dramatic or different in some way than a normal test?
Well, you know, almost every warning we've had of terrorist activity in the country has sort of been followed with an explanation that, look, we've been monitoring the terrorists and the chatter, the telephone or secret chatter is really at a high level.
You think they monitor, just like we're talking about monitoring, they monitor the terrorists in the same exact way?
I think they probably monitor the networks the same way, the number stations in the same way.
So even if they cannot understand the content of the transmissions, the quantity of the transmissions, the length of the transmissions, whether or not certain transmissions are repeated, those could yield valuable clues.
They call him Dr. Doom, and it's for a good reason.
And it's because a lot of what you're going to hear is very scary stuff.
Now, you can get angry and say it's all a bunch of pooey and turn it off, or you can get scared and turn it off.
Either way, if it's going to affect you or the children, do turn it off.
Don't put yourself through that pain.
However, if you're curious, and I certainly am, we all know what that did to the cat, right?
But I am, then you listen to this, because I believe remote viewing is the real McCoy.
I've had the opportunity to go through Major Dame's military record, word for word.
He did exactly for the military and the CIA what he said he did.
It's all there in his record.
I know that to be True.
So, that warning made, I just want to say one more thing before we leave the subject of radio altogether.
Again, the webcam photograph tonight.
If you go to the Coast to Coast AM website and click on webcam, upper left-hand corner, you'll see a photograph of my house retouched by one of my listeners, I thought, in a very cute way.
That's why I put it up there.
Those white poles that you see are about a third higher now than when this picture was taken from the helicopter that I was hanging out of.
About a third higher, and so that gives you some idea of what I've gone through here to be able to receive just about anything in the world, and I can assure you I am able to do that.
It's absolutely incredible.
That's what those white poles are that you see in that photograph.
just wanted to let you know coming up in a moment major ed dames He is clearly my most liked and hated guest at the same time.
The world's foremost remote viewing teacher, Edward A. Dames, major U.S. Army retired, is a decorated military intelligence officer and an original member of the U.S. Army Prototype Remote Viewing Training Program.
That's the one that was finally blown open by Nightline one night, and they had a bunch of people from it saying it had been 20 years in the doing in the CIA.
Anyway, he served as the Training and Operations Officer for the Defense Intelligence Agency Psychic Intelligence, or PSIINT.
That would be PSI Intelligence Collection Unit.
And currently serves, by the way, as Executive Director for the Matrix Intelligence Agency, a private consulting group.
Ed is a technical consultant for the feature film Suspect Zero and, in fact, plays the role of an FBI remote viewing instructor in that movie as well.
Here he is from the islands somewhere, his cave or whatever in the islands.
Here is Major Ed Dames.
Major Dames.
Ed.
Oh, man.
We lost him.
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A beautiful, a beautiful wind-up and introduction like that, and he's not there.
Long enough, some would suggest, for some of what you forecast to have come true.
And, you know, some of it has.
And that's what people forget.
I had a guy calling up last night frantically, Ed David's wrong, and David is wrong.
Well, you know, I get these things in email, and I get them all the time.
People who just hate your guts.
I mean, they just hate your guts.
And they say you've never had anything right, and that is incorrect.
I've documented quite a bit over.
And I got this email looking at the Coast Coast website.
I see you have Major Dam scheduled for this weekend.
Please remember to tell him about the Baby Formula scandal told you about a few weeks ago to remind you, FBI investigating Baby Formula Ring in Texas and throughout the country with ties to Middle Eastern terrorist organizations.
Now, you remember the whole big thing about Baby Formula, Ed?
Well, what I mentioned was that as part of as training officer for the military team, and this was about 16 years ago, we were looking ahead at events over the horizon.
I had nothing to do with Department of Defense priorities.
But as a training officer, I could slip Mickeys in now and then, which is good for the team because you want to work a variety of different targets to keep people on their toes so their imagination doesn't.
So you don't condition yourself to think that you're dealing with yet another military target.
And you think yourself into a box.
So I would give them targets over the horizon.
And what we were seeing were a great number of human babies dying of starvation and disease.
So when I hired all of the original military team members and then later on trained civilians to be world-class remote viewers, we re-looked this particular topic to see what was going on.
And it looks at this juncture as if it isn't because of poison formula or milk or it is because there are no cows.
Cows are diseased and dying.
And that appears to be the reason why over the horizon babies have no milk and cow's milk, that is.
Well, occasionally when you get something that appears to be a hit because it has to do with the same topic, I at least like to call attention to that fact.
Over the years, there have been quite a number of them.
So, you know, what I tell people is, look, I know remote viewing is real.
And by the way, since we're at the beginning of the program, the obligatory, just real quick, I know there's some who don't know what is remote viewing.
You can use it to describe a distant and hidden target, a person, place, thing, or an event.
You can use it to solve a problem, which requires some know-how.
Or you can use it in a predictive sense as a predictive study.
You want to see what it is in its basic and very, very spectacular form.
I would advise those parents who have children in the room, just before you evict your children from tonight's show, and you may want to do that, have your kids go to their computers and hit the website, the URL, readyourteachersmind.com or readyourparentsmind.com.
See what children can do with this Mind Dazzle Kids kit that we developed.
Yeah, you can, because your brain is capacity constrained.
If you think of a central processing unit in your computer, it can only handle so much at one time.
And when you're remote viewing, your attention is so highly, precisely knife-edged, focused on the target, there is no room to call into play emotions and ego and imagination.
At the end of the session, bam, peak drops out, and you can re-attend to those other things.
All right, now with regard to your percentage of hits, this is to some degree controlled by the level of remote viewing.
In other words, is it not?
If you have several remote viewers independently assigned the same project and they come up with the same result, numerically at some point, the same result from X number of people indicates 100% probability of this being accurate.
If two or more remote viewers, especially if you're using controls against blind targets the way I use them and my teams, then the mutually corroborating data from remote viewers produce is independent from each other.
That's 100%.
Other words, the narrative descriptions of a target or the sketches of a target, if they're mutually corroborating, that's 100%.
We know that empirically.
A really good example of what we can do.
I do a lot of missing children work, especially in Japan.
And we have a fugitive and a missing child in the mainland U.S. too.
I say mainland because I'm in Polynesia right now.
The head of the Vice Squad for the Portland Police Department, he did not know who or where his biological mother is and where she is.
And he's adopted.
So what we did for Japanese TV is locate on camera this man's biological, determined that she was alive and where in the world she was, which happened to be Tokyo.
So think of a needle in the haystack.
Remote viewing techniques can locate the person in a major metropolitan city, and we did that on camera.
We're doing it now for a missing child as well as a criminal.
Let's dive into some of the material that you've sent me.
I sort of read this as a tease in the first hour, but wow, some of this is pretty heavy stuff.
An extraterrestrial...
You know what, before I even...
I mean, here you were in the military, and the military is going to be looking for gas canisters, terrorist activity.
The CIA is going to want to know about its operatives that might be in danger.
Whatever it is, all these different things the military and CIA would want to know.
And here you are, you must have had some rough days with the CIA.
I mean, going after targets that they wouldn't want a thing in the world to do with, like extraterrestrials or perhaps even their own secret stuff out at Area 51, God knows where you may have roamed with your remote viewers, but you started assigning these fun targets and started to get out of control.
I imagine you had some tough moments, didn't you, with your CIA bosses?
Where the foreign country, for instance, let's say Brazil, something went down, and the Brazilian government and military had no idea what happened, they would approach the U.S. Embassy and the military attaché in Brazil and say, can you help out here?
Do you know anything about that?
That information would be passed through.
Brazil never knew where it went, of course.
And then it would end up in my hands.
And because we in our work can provide pieces of the puzzle, not only a piece of the puzzle, but the first piece where there's no pieces at all.
What the heck went down?
What happened to this crew out in the middle of the Gulf?
What happened to this person who said he was abducted?
These kinds of things.
And what is this glowing sphere above the submarine out here?
Well, maybe they tipped you over the edge, but you can't tell me that all the targeting you were doing in the military was their idea, this exotic stuff.
Dr. Doom moniker, that nomdiker had nothing to do, believe it or not, with the UFO Enigma problem or things like that.
I was a briefing officer.
One of my jobs before I stepped down to become operations and training officer of the military remote viewing team was to manage black science programs in this country.
And I would brief at the old executive office building in the White House things like very nasty biological warfare, threats that were on the horizon, things that are highly classified, ways that you could die that had nothing to do with vaporization and megatonnage and throw weights.
Very, very diabolical.
In fact, I'm going to talk about one of those tonight when I talk about China's most secret weapons program.
With the kind of thing that you say on this program, or sort of things you say on this program, a lot of people get angry.
And I'm wondering if any of the people at the higher levels of government, when you told them, I mean, you weren't giving good news, Ed, did they ever respond with anger?
Generals predominantly, and some did, for a reason it might be surprising to you.
The reason was that when you present, based upon your intelligence work, these conclusions that a threat country has now developed something that you have to, when you're confronted with the information, there's a responsibility now that you have to defend against or help prevent that type of threat from killing your own forces.
Now come to think of it, over the years I've interviewed every single remote viewer out there of any note or distinction, and there is one thing that I note about all of them that I'll ask Ed about in a moment.
Over the years, I have interviewed the inner circle of the very best of the remote viewers in all the world.
And when I bring up, Ed, some of the topics that you and I have discussed in the fields we will plow tonight, they don't put you down.
They don't say anything bad.
In fact, Ed, they won't say anything at all.
They actually refuse.
If you bring up topics like the existence of God or the devil or Lucifer or extraterrestrials or anything of that venue, anything of that sort, they don't want to talk about it.
Well, it's when I started out, when I broke the news of the existence of this project to the public in 1990, I started it out as a business.
My first few years was as a consulting firm, scientific consulting firm to business Fortune 500 companies.
And it's pretty hard.
You're going to get the business thrown out, the baby with the bathwater, if you start, instead of talking about deep space propulsion projects and which of your hydrogen-based automobile power plant projects are going to fail, that kind of thing, if that's one thing.
But to all of a sudden start talking to your client about angels, extraterrestrials, and other dimensional intelligences and those kinds of things, you're going to lose some work.
And you're going to lose some credibility because you've pushed beyond the envelope.
I'm not considering the agency out there, which I think are our progenitors, actually.
But I'm wondering why they monkey with us.
I think that we really are the planet of the apes.
And that we are dealing, as far as my team is concerned, with an intelligence that's far superior to us, you know, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of years ahead, technologically speaking.
And the scientists that I have worked with before, the team, some of the best scientists, some of the best military officers, what we did over the last 20 years was, number one, plan A, locate a hot zone and go there.
We did that.
That was New Mexico.
Lots of great pictures, lots of great what you would call flybys or whatever the heck those things were that were going over our heads.
No landing.
Plan B, take a scientific team back to the same place and attempt to establish ground truth, which we did.
I'm going to brief the public on some of that on November 8th in Las Vegas at the Remote Human Colloquium.
Okay, so I presume then with your discipline you take that evidence and you use it as a focal point to remote view about what the hell is going on, right?
So for instance, because this is a mine tool, so we collect information in terms of narrative descriptors and sketches of whatever we're interested in.
In this case, it would be, let's say, the Travis Walton abduction.
We're going to recreate that event, see what went down, look at the mechanics and the dynamics behind it, and then decide how we're going to take the information and the intelligence that we collected and act on it.
So that's what we were doing out in New Mexico.
We located a hot zone, we went there, made some recordings, but our intent, my intent was contact.
Most of the science members there, some of them work for the Skunk Works and Department of Defense, they wanted to reverse engineer these magnificent toys.
Plan C. The statement was made because there's a postulate.
If we can't get contact on their terms, whoever they are, who own those phenomena, like in sort and sift through some of that later.
But if we can't elicit contact, then let's monkey with them since we're monkeys.
And by that I mean if you're operating in this neck of the woods, whether you're transdimensional coming in from other dimensions, whether you're extragalactic coming in from another galaxy, if you have a base of operations in this parsec, and you're spending a lot of time here on Earth, you need material.
You probably need some material.
And if you're not completely robotic, you need some form of energy.
Now, you may bring that with you and never need any, but if you're not, if you're of silicon or organic derived, then you need material.
So the postulate was, is there a logistics supply train, just like in the military, sometimes it's easier to attack the logistics of an army, their fuel or their food, than it is to hit them, you know, confront them point blank.
Let's see if there's a logistics tail that any of these agencies have.
And that is what I sicked my expert team against.
So we went looking to see if they were taking anything to use as material or food or energy supplies.
And indeed, we found something.
We found something that they have been taking for a lot of years, a long, long, long time.
They're using it as feedstock to build other material things.
And we think in some cases, as food, to build food.
So those of you who are familiar with the Star Trek TV series, I don't watch television, but I occasionally catch it when I'm on the road traveling.
And there's something like an accumulator aboard the vessel that makes food and drink and martinis and that kind of thing.
You assemble it, but you've got to have something to assemble it with.
And that's what they're doing.
They're taking something from which they can take it apart and they can use it as basic building blocks for lots of other things.
In this case, what they've been taking for a long, long time is petroleum products, fossil fuels, natural gas products, and oil itself from right out of the ground, long before there were oil wells or gasoline.
Let's see if we can get some help from these folks out there.
We're going to have to exhibit, I believe, a higher order of intelligence.
What that would mean in terms of the practical down where the rubber meets the road, if we show up and start monkeying, let them know that we know where they're taking this and what they're doing, that changes the relationship.
Now, they may choose to vaporize us, but that would leave them with the idea that somebody else is still going to know and be able to do this.
The higher order of intelligence is that, hey, they know.
That means they have a consciousness tool that can look at anything.
There's no secrets with remote viewing, as you'll see when I talk about the Chinese secret weapons program.
So we go to the primary resupply point where like bees or insects, they're taking away this stuff.
It's not they.
They have tools that they're doing with very, very transcendental technology tools that are going in, grabbing the raw material, fossil fuel in this case, and taking it away.
We're not sure where they're taking it to yet, but we know they're taking it.
There's a primary collection point in North America, and it's not going to take us many more weeks to locate that.
Now we're going to stand there and see what happens.
I don't think I have to remain neutral on this one.
I think that there's definitely an agenda here, and they're presenting themselves as a conundrum.
It always changes.
One minute there's a swamp monster.
Next minute there's a UFO over here.
They're monkeying with us.
I know they are.
In the secret world of the top secret world, I remember 20 years ago when we put a new generation of spy satellites up.
I can only talk about this in generalities.
The old generation of spy satellites was picking up glowing things next to nuclear weapons supply dumps and nuclear submarines.
And then as soon as we put up this new generation of technology with different spectral collection characteristics and other things, the old collection systems, the old spy satellites, no longer registered these glowing things.
I'm troubled by the fact that certain subjects can't or won't be discussed publicly, even by UFO researchers and advocates who acknowledge them among themselves.
Here it is.
Many UFO researchers have noted that UFOs have changed their appearance over the years.
It's not just the viewer's interpretation.
Like in the 1970s, they were typically saucer-shaped metallic craft.
Not so today.
Indeed, it turns out that UFOs do indeed seem to change with the times and appear, the important part here, appear as we expect them to.
In the older days, when they were depicted only as silver saucers, we got silver saucers.
Today, we get triangles, we get all kinds of different things that people expect.
They seem to be fulfilling our expectations as times and the phenomena changes.
There wouldn't be that, which, oh, it's just that again.
The novelty, the novelty acts as a stimulus.
And also, on another side of the house, I think it was Aquinas, Thomas Aquinas, or St. Augustine, who said, angels use the symbols of the age to communicate with man.
They do not introduce new knowledge or new symbols.
They use man's own symbols to communicate with him.
They are capable of at least transdimensional movement.
They can move into another dimension.
I won't get into all the technicalities that allow us to know that, but they can move into another dimension in and out that way.
That could be time, it could be a space dimension, but they can do that.
Number two, the agency is directly connected, directly connected with an underground area on the planet Mars.
And that underground area is a real operations center that has been responsible for an untold number of so-called UFO close encounters of the second kind and sometimes third kind.
And we know a lot about that underground post.
Most of the things that are moving around in there and are creating these spheres that cut crop circles and project other things down here in terra firma are sentient machines.
There's a confluence of events, however you wish to describe it.
But there's so much information that we're getting as a team, I'm going to limit my activity to attempting to interdict the supply route of this outside agency.
I think we're facing something that it's just beyond us in terms of.
I really think it's beyond our can.
I think these are our progenitors.
They're also part of what we would like to think of as a federation.
And if we can't gain entry by waving at them and figuratively speaking, the kinds of things that I've done in the past, let's kick the door in and see what happens.
Because life's short, and I think there's a sense of urgency here.
I think this conundrum that they've posed, and I believe that this nonsense that we see is posed as a conundrum, a puzzle, a problem to be solved.
If it's not solved quickly, I don't think we're ever going to become, at least this generation, members of what might be a federation.
And when I talk, yes, they're collecting a lot of things, information and perhaps other things.
But what I'm saying is they have a logistics tail.
They need raw material to make things with whatever those things are somewhere else.
And they've been taking it from this neck of the woods in a primary collection and transfer point that's in North America.
I wanted to show you what it's like to have a world without secrets.
Okay.
I remember a few years ago when Dean came and was coming out with this secret project called It or Ginger, and everybody was speculating on what that might be.
And on your show, I elaborated point by point what this machine would be.
That it would be something that you ride like a scooter.
Okay, well, I bring that up to show you how, unlike the children's sketches that you see in the Mind Dazzle Kids kit over there and that site, what we can do is far more, as adults who are trained, is far more sophisticated.
If you look in last month's collector's edition, U.S. News World Report on spy stories.
It was out all month.
On page 58, there's a two-page article on the former remote viewing unit.
It's entitled Clear Targets in the Mind's Eye, and you'll see a trained remote viewer sketching a piece of equipment at a top-secret former USSR base.
Well, that's what I'm talking about here.
Let's use that and turn it on instead of, let's say, Microsoft's most secret new project or whatever.
Let's take a look at the People's Republic of China's most secret military weapon.
Now, why do we know we're on that?
Because many 20 years of using these, we know that these particular ways that we set up a problem, a cue we call it, that the cue is interpreted literally, just like an Internet search engine search.
Whatever you stick up there in the search engine, you pops out something that's connected to it.
120 hours in the classroom as a remote viewing student will teach you how to get around those kinds of things and to know how to set the problems up correctly.
We certainly don't want to go into those technicalities here.
I'll tell you right now, at this moment in time, it's still the most powerful thing that we have, and it's a great deterrent.
But the existence of the program is not secret.
Right.
We do have other programs that are very secret.
You will live and die and not know about them.
That's the way it's supposed to be.
But that's not to say we'll ever use them, for instance.
We may not.
So what I'm getting to here is, and I'll slow down a little bit because these points are important.
The American public is not educated in terms of what its military does at the Office of Secretary of Defense level.
The programs that are really secret are that secret and that classified for a couple of different reasons.
One is to make sure that a potential enemy or threat doesn't get access to the information so they can develop a defense against it.
Oh, of course.
But the other reason is less known, and that is because it gives away or telegraphs the goal of the country.
And it may do, and not only that, may not just telegraph the end goal, but it may be something that a country is developing that would become highly embarrassing, very, very embarrassing in terms of history.
Let's say, for instance, the U.S. had a secret project to assassinate the leaders of the U.K. or Australia, and that we felt for some reason that we need to take out the prime ministers of those countries or the presidents of those countries.
Now, you wouldn't want history to know about that, would you?
And in the case of China, the most secret weapons program is similar to that.
It's very diabolical, and it's very brilliant, as one might guess.
But it's like that.
It's something that is not as powerful as a nuclear weapon, but its existence telegraphs and indicates the extent that that country is willing to go to to become number one in the world.
I'm saying that the program, if it becomes known that China would do such a diabolical thing, it shows the extent to which they would go in terms of, let's say, lack of ethics to become number one.
And you know that they want to become number one, right?
And we would love to put nuclear weapons in space, but because we signed the treaty, saying no, we can't do that.
And so there's some loopholes out there.
I used to love to look at different countries, the way the loopholes that they created and how creative countries could be.
The Russians, for instance, because they signed the Biological Warfare Treaty, still created something that was a biological origin, but it was not.
It did not meet the criterion for a biological weapon per se, but it was still much as effective or much more effective.
So that was a loophole that they created.
U.S. has a loophole, too.
We're going to put beam weapons in space.
So not nuclear weapons, but a beam weapon, directed energy weapon.
Edward Teller was a big proponent of X-ray lasers.
But we're not just going to put them in space while we're vulnerable to ground-based weapon systems or other space-based weapon systems.
We're going to put our big weapons on the moon, but not just on the moon.
We're going to put them on the backside of the moon or right on the limb of the moon so that the beam director can pop up, fire, and go back down and remain protected.
That's what we're going to do, and the Chinese know it.
They're not going to let us do that because all that costs money.
And we're not going to be able to do it because China may just go ahead and use their weapon.
If we don't have the money to do this very expensive project, then China wins by default.
And so what the Most Secret Weapon is, is very diabolical and very brilliant.
It is a bioengineered biological warfare agent, a phytopathological agent that attacks only wheat.
And if they launch that thing in the United States surreptitiously, they will have plausible denial, and the wheat crop in North America will become quickly infected.
When that happens, the economies will drop to pieces virtually overnight.
I'm not going to go into that because I'm an American.
But I'm just saying this is a world without secrets, my world.
And I'm showing you what we can do with it.
Now, this telegraphs the extent to which they're willing to go.
And you bet, of course, if they launched that and somehow we found out that they did, and we wouldn't, because they would do it very clandestinely and surreptitiously.
But if we found out they did, all hell would come down on them very quickly in terms of nuclear weapons.
I can only assume a weapon of this sort could not be a chemical agent that would have to be sprayed everywhere.
This would have to be some sort of bioengineered item that would perpetuate its own existence like some sort of horrible virus that would sweep across all of our wheat.
I know it via remote viewing, and I also know what's possible because of my own involvement in defense of biological warfare programs.
For instance, it is, as you know, the so-called ethnic bomb is possible.
Right now, genetic engineering has reached a point where you could tag onto any particular pathogen or virus something that would attack only blonde people or people who are susceptible to Tay-Sachs disease or whatever you want.
But that's much more difficult to do than to take out wheat crops.
And our wheat is very, very fragile now.
The immune system of our crops in America is really, really thin ice.
So it's a very, very viable thing, very viable, and there's easily, easily, easy, plausible denial on this weapon.
Yeah, well, I can see, for example, that the Chinese as a state would certainly not directly do something like that, but would they put it in the hands of some terrorist who would just love to see the U.S. economy go up in flames and starving people and whatever it would produce?
Ed, I don't have personal knowledge of this because I didn't hear it, but I've had a whole lot of email from people who said you did a show with George sometime during the week, sometime in the past, and you made some sort of statement about the beginning of the war in Iraq and the use of a nuclear weapon by North Korea.
When we search the global mind or what we call the matrix, and we used that term long before Hollywood did, as remote viewers, mind is outside of time.
So you can look over the horizon and describe things that are big just as easily as you can describe something that has already happened or something that's happening now.
So think of mind as perhaps the fifth dimension as a good hypothetical example, and time as perhaps the fourth.
In fact, you know, we're doing that right now for Japanese TV this month we are special and we're going to describe the next catastrophic Japanese earthquake, something that is very close very interesting to the Japanese people.
We're going to describe the next catastrophic earthquake.
It's what location, not city necessarily, but where the most damage and loss of life will be, where that will be in Japan.
And then we have to backtrack and look at, because we can't attach a calendar time to that, we have to look at the nearest recognizable preceding event.
Yeah, we have to do that so that when we see that happen, whether it's an election or a particular festival, then the Japanese people can know that soon after this, this particular area over here is going to get it.
In the case of North Korea, about six years ago in your program, I began to tell you that using those same search techniques by looking at the idea, remote viewing the ideas of the next use of a military, the next use of a nuclear weapon in anger, would be on the Korean peninsula by the North Koreans.
Well, I will tell you that I stand by, as I have for the last six years, and all of my professional team, that the next use of the weapon is going to be on the Korean Peninsula.
There's no doubt in our military minds about that.
The time, though, you know that time is a problem in our work looking out.
So what I'll do on the second remote viewing colloquium when that is given, and that's called Timeline, what we're doing when we present that is we're looking at these very, very critical events in human history coming up, and we are going to tag them with markers.
When you see this happen, whether it's the Academy Awards or something else like that, then the next thing you'll see will be this.
So we can bracket these critical events into some type of a window.
Because we cannot pull out calendrical time and remote viewing.
Calendar time doesn't work.
It's not part of this global mind.
It's a convention that doesn't appear to be practical.
This is something that you and I have talked about for years now, and it's stuck in everybody's craw as well as it should.
The kill shot from the sun.
You suggest that our star, our sun, is going to go on a rampage and begin to affect, or your word, terminate, Earth's living system dynamics.
And you, with a little dark humor, suggest please cancel any long-term plans for your future.
Now, this is something that actually has worried me for some time, Ed.
I've been looking at the dynamics of the sun, and I've been looking at some real hard science, which would indicate that every now and then a sun, like ours, which is thought to be stable, like ours, relatively stable, suddenly does a very unstable thing, and that could result in virtually a planet becoming sterilized or scorched or who knows.
But I've been watching our sun very closely.
You obviously still feel that this so-called kill shot or problem with our sun is ahead of us, that it's going to occur, yes?
We've done more and more work on this because geophysically, it's a precedent.
We've never seen anything like this before on terra firma, so it was difficult to work out all of the geophysics and the physics involved in this particular thing.
We didn't know what we were looking at.
We're just observers, as remote viewers.
We had to take all the observations and fit them into some type of known science.
We did that.
And what's coming down in our lifetime, yours and mine, is a whole bunch of globs of protons from our sun slamming into Earth.
And I don't mean just one.
I mean a few shots.
So the Earth will get it like a rotisserie as it spins.
With a whole bunch, a glob of protons, mass from the sun slamming into the atmosphere.
And that's going to happen in our lifetime, Arthur.
I thought it was quite good, quite a good piece of science fiction.
But I mean, the dynamics, the science behind that, pretty fair in the movie, I'd judge it, and pretty good movie at that.
So anyway, are you suggesting that something will go wacky with our magnetic field and open us to something of that sort, or that there's going to be such a large shock from the sun, such a disturbance, that our magnetic field simply won't save us?
You know, down on deck, there is a phrase that I can reach back quite a number of years, Ed.
You know, and it always appears I'm on your side, or maybe it appears that way.
But I remember you predicting, not predicting, but saying that the Jetstream would come down on deck.
And by gosh, within, I don't know, within a year of your saying that, I saw weathermen begin to actually say on television that the jet stream actually had come down on deck.
They used those words, down on deck, and knocked down forests and stuff on the top of mountains and Colorado, I think it was, and other things, but that the jet stream had dipped right down to earth.
Is there any preceding event that we can look for?
I mean, time-wise, I know it's tough, but when we're talking about something as serious as our sun going on a rampage against us, it'd be nice to have some idea of when.
Yeah, that's the topic of my second colloquium called Timeline.
Right now, we're working those out.
Some of the things that we'll see, for instance, this grand cataclysm, this will end World War III.
World War III, in terms of the global mind, started when the U.S., during the First Gulf War, 1991, 1990.
That started World War III.
When you look at that search term, that idea, how the global mind adjudicates that particular idea, it starts during the First Gulf War, and it ends when all the warring forces lose interest in fighting because something else interrupts.
So this grand cataclysm is marked by, it starts out slowly.
When you see certain things like rivers changing their course, we know that that's one key point where a river will do a real sharp bend.
Something will be happening to the Earth where rivers start to change their course dramatically.
That's one of the things.
Another thing is, as you already know, since you wrote the book literally, you're going to have very huge violent storms.
That's another indicator.
Something is wrong with the Earth's magnetic field.
Geophysics are going screwy.
When you see those kinds of things, in order to save one's dairy air, you need to be in a place where there's a lot of fresh water.
It has to be far inland or very high as well.
And those are the two criteria that, and you need to be underground for a while because the winds will pick up very high speeds.
So what we're seeing, each of our professionals, when they look at their own lives ahead, they're looking at the optimum way for themselves to survive is to be in a place that has an underground shelter that they can go into occasionally, like a fallout shelter.
So I recall you're saying that at some point the Earth's inhabitants would have to find their way underground and would have to have a way to survive for quite a period of time or some period of time underground, yes?
If they're not, it's best to kind of keep that in the back of your mind now in case this particular little announcement that I'm making, which I'm sure is just entertainment to most people, and just in case it's true, I would suggest to many of your listeners that you just might want to think about where would you go if the winds picked up to 300 miles an hour.
And I know we haven't even talked about what would happen to coastlines if the Earth turns on its axis 17 degrees.
Then we're looking at like the city off the coast of Cuba that's 2,200 feet underwater.
Yeah, I mean, you think about the ramifications of that thing.
It's a super quick.
While we're on the subject, many of the things we talked about tonight, if people want more information, they can go to my website, remoteviewing2003.com, and there's links to a lot of the things we've been discussing.
One of the items that you had put down was a note on World War III, and I assume you just gave that to us with the real start of what you consider to be World War III, or is there a further note on World War III?
Every quarter, what I'll do is present to the public our detailed findings.
In this first one, I'm going to present what the military team, totally unprecedented data, what both the military team and a U.S. scientific team that I led found about UFOs, our work against the UFO enigma, those kinds of things.
It's going to be in Las Vegas on Saturday, November 8th, right up the road from you at the Imperial Palace Hotel.
If you want to know more about it, again, you can go to remoteviewing2003.com or you can go to the raliensreal.com website or you can call if you would like to register a number.
Because of the nature of the material that you talk about on this radio program, and I guess elsewhere in events like this, you really are.
I billed you at the beginning of the program, I think, as the most liked and hated guest that I have.
You are that.
You are the most liked and hated.
Oh, my goodness, Ed.
People write some things about you, and I'm the recipient of those things.
They either hate your guts or just absolutely love you, or there's a certain group that finds a high entertainment value in you, and they just turn off a lot of what you have to say, which people tend to do.
And a lot of people, as I'm sure you understand, if they don't turn it off, they get angry.
I told you on the last show that we saved the lives of one of the most prominent physicians in the world by looking at intractable illnesses and their cures and treatment.
Anyway, I say these things ahead of putting you on the phone with some folks out here, which is what I'm about to do, so no guarantees on what's coming, Ed.
I just want to know if he has seen anything about the Illuminati in the United States sending the ships to North Korea first to attack North Korea to take the site or whatever off of Bush and his people because of Iraq?
I don't know what a group like that would do, but I do know that bankers and people that command energy worldwide are very powerful and did, in fact, have a great influence on George Bush Sr. and the first Gulf War.
Well, you know, sometimes I'm a smart guy, fairly smart.
I'm smart enough to know not, for instance, to look at, let's say, the Kali cartel's major drug transshipment points in Latin America or something else like that, because my lifespan will be very limited, very short.
So if you run up against something that is going to hurt you real bad, you know, this might be one of those things.
I've seen it before in other ways.
For instance, the Soldatensbundt, the one that the group of soldiers that escaped from Nazi Germany with a lot of gold and ended up in South America, they're still around, and you don't want to mess with them.
If by Illuminati, people mean something like a tripartite or a worldwide group of people that promulgate power for power's sake and could care less about anything else, but yes, there is a group like that.
For instance, if Yellowstone was going to pop large events like nuclear weapons use, for instance, or something like that, very easy to look at ahead of time.
But when you're dealing with individual, with people and individual decisions where you have just a few people making decisions, then over the horizon radar, the screen becomes really gray.
It's a fuzzy zone.
It's not clear and cut.
And we've seen this before time and time again by trying to track this loose al-Qaeda cell within the boundaries of the continental United States.
Every time we look at what they want to hit, you know, it's just a plan.
Sometimes in the case of San Diego, for instance, San Diego Harbor, where we told Navy security and Coast Guard security what the plan was in order to mine, set mines there at the harbor to take out our boomers.
Did we prevent that from happening or not?
So I don't know if we're dealing with a paradox or whatever.
Yeah, and we've had instances in the past where we've looked ahead at events that looked pretty solid and did involve an individual, and in some cases an assassination attempt, but they weren't solid enough to hang our hats on.
Let me extend the question just a bit more, and that is, if you were able to determine there was going to be an assassination, could you act to change the outcome of that event?
Obviously, it's come up always, time and time again.
But I still don't know.
I'm still not sure about that.
In terms of an individual, I am.
If I tell you that you have, let's say, pancreatic cancer or that you're going to die in a plane crash as far as remote viewing can see very soon, then you as an individual can change that.
the gift of gab and the verbosity and loquaciousness is a talent.
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Well, it's more than a talent.
I mean, it's an important function that you are serving here.
And I want to reference that to last night's guest.
But in passing, while waiting to come on, you mentioned something that I just have to say, if Art will give me an extra minute here, I just have to comment on.
You talked about Latin American cartels and the fact that you would not attempt to remote view their location points.
Those of us who are friends of Rush Limbaugh need to consider something here.
The Drug Enforcement Agency has pointed out that many of the American drug kingpins that formally were dealing with the Colombian cartels have switched to prescription drugs because it's more profitable and it's less risky.
Now, we, or let's say the general public does not know for the same reason that Ed Dames would be fearful of taking these people on, the general public doesn't know the exact nature of the dangers that Mr. Limbaugh might be in at this time.
So I would say reserve judgment.
Now, back to the subject of tonight and last night's guest.
I too understand that he may have been very creative in the first part of the program with his novel and so forth.
But that doesn't take away from the fact that the bottom line of what he was trying to do is to propose a way of solving the biggest problems in the world today, problems like you've been talking about here tonight.
We have to think about problem solving.
We have to think about creative solutions.
And what you said about exploding a nuclear weapon on the Korean peninsula and what you just said about how you might be able to or not prevent an assassination, the same principle would apply to both of those.
If we use problem-solving approaches to these problems.
But I think for a moment here, we can't be so cursory to suggest that simple problem solving or even complex problem solving, the way that we and the United States at least do it, or even the French who are the master politicians, or they used to be, are going to do anything about what to affect the mindset of the DPRK, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
Forget it.
It's a pipe dream.
It's pollyanna-ish.
They're not going to change.
They're not going to accept being subservient to U.S. will or anything.
That's not going to happen.
So we have to be realistic as well as problem solvers.
And with regard to Robert Miles last night, he wasn't fabricating.
He's a pretty simple guy telling it like it is.
But I think when you hear what I have to say about that, it might change your mind about what his experience was.
Listening to Robert last night, even though he went straight over the cliff halfway through the night in some ways, I fully understood, and that's why I held off so much, that he believed as fact everything he was saying.
And this time, we're not talking about sentient machines or robots.
We're talking about five extra alien presences inside a particular place, wherever the heck he went, ended up.
They were there right there with him.
And these were real alien presence, real material, I won't say flesh and blood, but they were real aliens as opposed to what Robert Miles confronted, which was his guardian angel.
What happened to Robert Miles was the answer to a prayer.
It doesn't have to be a prayer the way you and I think of prayer.
The idea of, gee, I wonder if there's more to life than just this.
But Ed, if you have a good idea of what precipitates the collapse, then by extension, you should perhaps have some ideas about how you'd protect yourself against the effects of it.
When it went down, I happened to do an Art Bell coast-to-coast show the day after.
And I said that I personally remote viewed two remote viewing sessions, an hour each, and looked at what brought the plane down and said it was an altercation in the cabin.
And there was silence on the other end because the odds of something like that happening were slim to none.
And I said what the voice recorder will be found, and the FAA will find that there was indeed an altisticuffs on the part of not a passenger, but on the part of crew members.
Wildcard Line, you're on the air with Major Ed Dames.
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Hi.
Good morning, Major Dames.
Mrs. Riley from Mount Sterling, Illinois.
Hey there.
It's an honor to speak to you both.
My question back with the appearance of Hailbop Comet, as I recall, Major, that Dames projected that some kind of pathogen would be released from the tail of the comet.
That's correct.
I wondered if that's still a viable projection and if there's any correlation between that pathogen and the pathogen he speaks of with the Chinese weapon.
If I ever went back and could retract certain things, I said one would be that, not because I don't think it's true, but because it's just too off the wall.
What I said specifically was that something detached from Halebop or near it entered the Earth's atmosphere, something hard, like a carbon piece of matter, and disintegrated in the Earth's atmosphere, but on that and embedded in it was a fungi like Clavyceps paporia,
a fungi that came down over Africa and infected some of the grasses in Africa.
And that infection spread, has already spread to Latin America and is moving up through Texas now.
But that's the kind of thing I think I should have kept because that's what causes the baby to be thrown out with the bath water, as far as I'm concerned.
It's just, I think, nobody thinks it's going to happen on their watch because of the vast spans of time between these kinds of global catastrophes are so great.
I mean, I experienced some things about a lot of these abductions, for instance, the gentleman that was Art's guest last night, Robert Miles, that particular kind of experience, that particular kind of experience, is orchestrated by, for all intents and purposes, I mean, let's call it like it is, angels.
If you listen to Thomas Aquinas, here's Thomas Aquinas' words in English.
I quote, an angel causing an imaginative vision sometimes enlightens the intellect, but at the same time so that it knows what these images signify, and then there is no deception.
But sometimes by angelic operation, the awareness of things only appear in the imagination, but neither then is deception caused by an angel, but by the defect in the intellect to whom such things appear.
Now, the church fathers, Aquinas, Augustine, and their ilk, really went in the great depth.
These were natural historians as well, as clergy.
They went into great depth about these kinds of things and had experiences themselves and studied the experiences.
This is the kind of so-called abduction, this transcendental CE3 that a lot of times we see as remote viewers where someone will report something, but when you go back into remote view the event, all you sketch and describe is a glowing white sphere hovering, sometimes two, by the way, hovering over a sleeping person or somebody sitting up in a catatonic state.
Robert Miles believed what he was saying.
That was not an E.T. experience.
It was his guardian angel reading his mind and manipulating it.
The older man and the young child that he saw, that he was sitting next to, are symbolic for himself, like the riddle of the Sphinx, the three ages of man, the young child, the old man, and himself, that the angel would be there throughout his whole life.
On Art's first show on Halloween seven years ago, almost to the day, one of the things I said on that two-hour program was because of the vicissitudes of weather, there's going to be no more seasons, and we're going to be forced to grow crops.
We won't be able to grow crops like we used to.
We're going to have to put them in environmentally controlled structures that will actually form the template for human habitats.
So eventually we'll start migrating into them because the weather will change so drastically.
Yes, I believe that.
And we need pure strains.
If we don't have pure strains of seeds, guess what?
The genetically modified stuff out there, we all know our worst fears will come true.