Dr. Ronald Klatz, founder of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, argues aging is a treatable disease, not inevitability, citing Medicare-backed vitamin studies to cut costs and telomere-shortening links to cancer/heart disease. His $2K–$30K annual regimens—60 pills daily, HGH, stem cells—claim biological reversal, like measurable blood improvements at 48 matching his 30s. Klatz dismisses overpopulation fears, noting declining birth rates, but warns of suppressed research (e.g., injectable HGH) and ethical dilemmas like "practical immortality," including speculative consciousness downloads. While polls show only ~10% want lifespans beyond 350, he insists anti-aging could delay dementia, extend careers, and preserve mental sharpness, reshaping society’s future. [Automatically generated summary]
In the hot desert and the great Americans, good evening, good morning, good afternoon, whatever the case may be, wherever you are in the world, there are so many time zones out there.
There is actually more than 24.
There are places where it's actually half hour, but it's hour everywhere else.
It's wild out there.
But it's a wild world we live in, isn't it?
Alright, um, about to kick it off for Saturday Sunday.
It really is great to be here.
If you check out my webcam, which is on the postodum.com website, you will see a photograph I took late this afternoon, which I thought was kind of cool.
I've got a camera mounted out back behind my house, and this looks out across the, well, sort of what is my backyard, a wall, and then out into the desert.
And I thought it was kind of a cool time of the afternoon, so I snapped a photograph.
That's on the webcam right now.
There is, of course, Fast Blast that you may avail yourself of.
That's also on the website.
You go up there and click, click, and you can send me a message with a question, a statement, a rant, whatever.
Okay, there was a picture on the Coast to Coast AM website this last week, and, you know, many times I'm going to find myself obviously talking about things that have occurred during the week.
And last week, at some point, there was a picture that rocked me back, or a set of pictures, more likely.
And these are obviously NASA pictures.
They were obviously taken from space.
And I'm telling you, I just about lost it when I saw them.
Now, I know that the Antarctic and the Arctic have been melting.
However, I had not had it graphically displayed for me in the manner that it is graphically displayed.
So I called tonight Powers It Be with the website and had them put it back up, in fact, on the front page of the website.
It's a picture from space of our world, specifically of the Arctic.
And there's two pictures, one taken in 1990 and the other in 1999.
I have no idea with reference to what reason it was done during the week.
I'm sure there was a relevant guest, but my God, look at these photographs.
In 1990, it's all white.
It's all ice.
It's all snow.
It's what you would expect of the Arctic.
And now, in 1999, I should say now, it's been several years since, if you'll look at the photograph, you will see mostly blue and very little white.
Most of the Arctic, or the majority of the Arctic, I guess it would be fair to say to the eye, to my eye, has melted, and now it's water.
With this going on at the top of the world and the incredible calving going on at the bottom of the world, it is clear we are in the middle of a really big change.
So I had them put the pictures back up.
I mean, go up there, and again, I have no idea why they originally had them up, what it was in reference to, but it really doesn't matter.
Your eyes will tell you the story.
1990 and 1999.
Wow.
We are in the middle of some big kind of change.
Reminding you, if you have a guest you'd like to see on the air, or you are a guest with a really cool story, you can email me.
I'm artbell at mindspring.com.
Two email addresses, actually.
Artbell at mindspring.com or artbell at aol.com.
Looking around the world a little bit now.
A Palestinian woman wrapped in explosives has blown herself up.
It occurred Saturday inside a seaside restaurant popular with both Arabs and Jews killing 19 bystanders, including four children.
The bombing prompts new calls for Israel to act on threats to expel Yasser Arafat.
In other words, toss him out of the country.
Our president branded a bombing in Israel that killed 19 Saturday as despicable, saying the attack was a reminder of the Palestinians' need to combat terrorism.
Arnold went on the attack Saturday denouncing the latest sexual harassment allegations made against him as untrue and charging that all of the 11th hour accusations were intended to wreck his campaign for governor.
And it remains to be seen, of course, whether it will do that, but we'll know soon, won't we?
In Las Vegas last night, word reaching us, you know, the premier Las Vegas act now for some time has been Siegfried and Roy.
And as you must know by now, illusionist Roy Horn of that duo remains in the hospital.
He's in critical condition Saturday.
One day after a tiger attacked him during a show, it reached up, it was said on Matt's site, Matt Drudge, and dragged him off like a rag doll.
Authorities say they still really don't know what his chances for recovery are, but he's still alive now.
But I mean, it grabbed him by the neck.
My God, it was awful.
It was my understanding it was the first time that particular tiger had been on stage.
Can you imagine that?
Can you imagine that?
A tiger just grabbing you by the neck.
And you can easily imagine the injuries that would result from that.
And of course, I've been following the story that broke this week of Rush Limbaugh and the allegations of the abuse painkillers.
Good Lord.
Talk about a rush to judgment.
Sorry for that, but it was a rush to judgment.
After all, without the facts, and we really don't have the facts yet, do we?
Without them being known yet, crucifixion would already seem to have occurred in the media.
That's right, crucifixion.
You know, I'm really not a Republican or a Democrat.
In fact, really, I'm a registered libertarian, and I have been now for over a decade.
Beyond my core beliefs, you know, in the sanctity of individual privacy and behavior, and a lot more that make me a libertarian, I've started to notice for some time now that what used to be polite discourse between the right and the left politically has turned blood mean.
Now, I mean blood-mean unbridled joy at the sometimes flawed human behavior of anybody who doesn't share our point of view of the world politically or whatever.
Well, there's a nasty streak that's crept into people who used to simply disagree or agree to disagree or whatever, and it's really nasty out there, kind of like sharks who see the red tint in the water, particularly when someone who has achieved someone like Rush, for example, who whether you agree or disagree with him, is obviously enormously talented, enormously talented.
To sit in that seat every day for that many years, just enormously talented.
God, we really love to try and bring people down, don't we?
Why is that anyway?
Why do we do that?
You know, Rush and I work for the same company, and the words I say now have nothing to do with anything my company said to me, which is zero, by the way.
We're both talk show hosts, and I just can't tell you how much respect I have for what Rush has achieved over the years.
Man, what a haul it's been.
I, believe me, I know myself what a media feeding frenzy is like.
Rush will get through all of this just fine, like the pro he is.
And to those of you who take so much joy at the man's situation, all I can say is shame on you.
The End In mere moments, we are going to open the lines, and for half an hour, you can blast away about anything you want to talk about.
So stand by for that.
Now, one of the world's greatest mysteries, and I don't say that lightly, crop circles are one of the world's greatest mysteries.
They haven't been solved other than a couple guys with chains and wards.
The important ones, the big ones, were not done, have not been done by human beings.
There's no question about it.
Was a big one just cropped up, so to speak, in Ohio.
Ohio farmer Dale Mark has a crop circle in his soybean field.
You ought to see it.
Passengers flying overhead in a private airplane last week discovered the whole thing.
And one part of the design seems to be a circle surrounding a triangle, whatever that might mean.
Another resembling a peace sign, and a third looks like a bullseye.
His wife, Mary Ellen, is puzzled because the circles are on land that's extremely difficult to get to from the road.
She says, quote, it does make you wonder because there's no in or out.
Researcher Jeffrey Wilson says the circle was created four to five weeks ago, even though it was only recently discovered.
The ground is very isolated and you can't see it from the roadway, he said.
We think it would not be the place that a hoaxer would go because no one would see it.
In addition, it would appear to be the real McCoy.
In other words, it's been irradiated in some manner.
Some kind of microwave energy or something very similar to microwave energy has created this.
And we don't, of course, know what that is, but trust me when I tell you, there is nothing that I know of that a man has short of perhaps something radiated from a satellite that might do this.
Otherwise, this continues to be, this one in Ohio, the ones in Europe, the ones around the world that aren't done by guys with chains and boards, continue to be one of the biggest mysteries, in my opinion, in the world.
Here's an interesting little story from the Goddard Space Flight Center.
A satellite data since 1998 is indicating the bulge in the Earth's gravity field at the equator is growing.
And scientists think that the ocean may hold the answer to the mystery of how the changes in the trends of Earth's gravity are occurring.
Now, over the years, I've done a few programs in which people began to notice a change in magnetic north.
And sure enough, you know, magnetic north does vary around a little bit.
The magnetic field does shift a little bit, but it's been doing some pretty good jiggles lately.
And, by the way, if you haven't seen it yet, I think it's out now, no, I know it's out on DVD, The Core.
There's a movie called The Core.
Now, it is a science fiction movie about what would happen if the Earth's magnetic field stopped.
Something we've talked about on this program more than just once.
And in this fictional account, the Earth's magnetic field does stop.
And I won't tell you any more about it than that, but it's really a pretty good movie.
Pretty darn good movie.
Now, it didn't get a lot of attention when it was in the theaters.
But I watched it all the way through, and I really enjoyed it.
I thought The Core was an excellent movie.
So, while our real field does jiggle around a little bit, there have been various stories about what might happen if the Eris Magnetic Field stopped.
And there's a pretty good rendition in that movie of what would occur.
Now, the following is gossip, but it's a pretty interesting gossip.
It's from a Boeing, or said to be from a Boeing insider.
Now you never know.
This could be pure BS, but I want to read it to you anyway.
He says that Boeing is leaving our area.
Most Puget Sound sounders have already figured that out.
They are slowly folding all their plants down, even have plans currently drawn to build large housing developments with the land they leave behind.
Remember, all this is speculation.
Boeing is a big deal for us.
So it makes the area sad to lose so many jobs, but our cost of doing business is way high in the Seattle-Tacoma area, way too high for them to remain profitable there.
But here is the real reason this departure is taking place.
All their air transport is going to be drastically changed.
They have developed highly reliable small personal transports.
Get this.
Freight, too, designed kind of like Star Trek to move individuals from point A to Z with materialization within certain short areas, he said, of about 10 miles in radius to begin with.
They plan to start with cargo.
And then when the public, all of you, sees how well it goes, they're going to move on to people.
They already know it works with people, but know that it's going to take a lot of PR to make people feel safe.
He mentioned the transport areas rather, are round discs.
Imagine this with different colors according to weight or size.
He said it reminded him of a twister game when you look at the grid.
Example, you'd put a certain weight cargo on a red disc and it would transfer to another red disc.
These discs will start as platforms in main areas, but as time progresses, they plan for them to be like bus stops, close and easy access, with a pre-purchase of tickets on a smart card that would be read with all sorts of other info as you stand on the disc.
Second, new generation of planes, which will be anti-gravity type planes that work totally differently than jets.
No need for large airports.
They're reworking the future transportation and plan to bring all of this about in approximately the year 2010.
These plans are smaller than the huge 777s, planes rather, that are now used, because it will be for people only.
And like short-haul ferries, they will work so fast and easy, they'll just speed 50 people from any point to any point.
So small city centers can be used as depots.
So he says that's what's going on with Boeing.
Indeed, just gossip.
It is probably not true.
However, one never knows.
Wouldn't it be something if they were really on to something of that magnitude?
And they knew the entire aircraft industry was going to be completely different.
And we were all going to be transported like Star Trek, and that's why they're doing what they're doing.
I rather think it's the first thing he said, but you never know.
Mysterious tiles.
That's right.
Mysterious tiles have been turning up all over the U.S. They're about the size of license plates, and they come embedded in the street, and they all say the same thing.
Here's what they say.
Toynbee idea in Kubrick's 2001, Resurrect Dead on Planet Jupiter.
These are embedded in the streets.
Toynbee idea in Kubrick's 2001, Resurrect Dead on Planet Jupiter.
Doug Wargle writes in the Kansas City Star that he first spotted one in his hometown in 1996.
So they've been around for a while, and it's still there today, by the way.
He did some internet research and found that there have been more than 100 now, 130 actually, of these Toynbee tiles seen in at least 20 cities around the U.S., two in South America.
In New York, around 50 tiles have been found.
In Philadelphia, about 30.
20 have been spotted in Baltimore, 16 in D.C. Jeff Martin, supervisor of street maintenance and repair for Kansas City, says, when you look at it closely, you can see it's some kind of epoxy or maybe super hard plastic that's actually inlaid in the asphalt itself.
To do this, he says, would require a lot of prep.
You'd have to heat the road surface.
You'd have to have special equipment.
An operation like this would take some time.
And if you wanted to avoid being seen while you were installing something like this, it would require some serious planning.
Whoever did this has fairly sophisticated know-how.
Now, what do you suppose that would mean?
Toynby idea in Kubrick's 2001, resurrect dead on planet Jupiter.
UFOs are being seen in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
Now, these are not kids.
They're people in their 50s, professional people, not into, they say, hallucinatory drugs or anything of that sort.
People look at you funny, says Pam Wingfield, when you tell them that you've seen a UFO, but what we saw was unidentified.
It was flying, and it was an object.
David Wren writes in the Myrtle Beach Sun News that Pam and two other vacationers from Virginia all saw the yellow and orange glowing spheres.
There have been at least six other sightings of yellow, orange, or red lights floating near the horizon in the past few weeks.
In other words, a big flap going on in South Carolina.
Now, the following came from Matt Drudge, Berlin, Connecticut.
In a scene that sounds more biblical than plausible.
Masses of amphibian eggs literally rained down on Primo Diagata's porch last month as the remnants of Hurricane Isbel moved through the state.
At first, Diagata thought the thumping noise that he and his wife heard on the back deck September 19th was hail, but oh no.
When he went outside to take a look, Diagata discovered that here they were, tiny, gelatinous eggs with dark Spots in the middle.
I couldn't even pick them up with a spatula.
He said they were so sticky.
Biologists from nearby Central Connecticut State University say the eggs are probably frogs.
And because no frogs in Connecticut lay eggs as late in the year, scientists and naturalists speculate that they may have come from North Carolina or another warm location on the winds of Isabel.
Now, that's pretty interesting.
In fact, I think I just printed this out.
Here's somebody who says, as usual, the so-called experts couldn't identify the species of the eggs, but they are confident the eggs were lifted up out of a warm pond or marsh or something and blown from North Carolina to Connecticut by a hurricane.
Isabel.
Ridiculous.
This is another prime example of modern science at work diligently attempting to explain natural phenomena without investigating.
They don't attempt to explain, however, why only amphibian eggs fell from the sky.
I mean, where were the amphibians?
Where were the fish, the snakes, the turtles, the crayfish, the whirly geeks, and other denizens of a pond?
If a pond, in fact, was lifted up in North Carolina and blasted to Connecticut, as the experts claim?
Wouldn't these other creatures also be raining down, following an easily plotted path from the Carolinas to Connecticut?
Well, I agree with you, my friend.
That also applies to things that go blazing across the sky from space.
We always say, well, they're meteors.
How do we know they're meteors?
They're unidentified.
They're unidentified flying objects, actually.
unidentified
Do you hear my heartbeat in this world?
Do you know that the heart of this world lies in the world?
Be it sight, sand, smell, or touch, the something inside that we need so much.
The sight of a touch or the scent of the sand, or the strength of an oak waves deep in the ground.
The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again.
Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing.
To lie in the meadow and hear the grass sing, to have all these things in our memories all, and to use them to help us to find out.
I, I'm a messy soul, take this place, on this trip, just for me.
I, I'm a messy soul, take my place, up my seat, just for me.
Wanna take a ride?
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You know, that fellow, Diagata, who had all of these, whatever it is, fall on him?
Well, he's trying to hatch some of them, and he's said, I'm going to just sit and see what happens, but a few of them have sprouted what looks like a little tail, whatever it is, fell out of the sky, and he's hatching them.
Good luck, Mr. Diagoto.
And there's one more item here about stuff falling from the sky, stuff indeed.
The headline is, UFO sewage, not from planes, says official.
You ready for this?
Wellington, the, that's New Zealand, the mystery of what, unidentified flying object, dumped a load of what looks like, and smells like, sewage all over a farmhouse near New Zealand's capital, Wellington, remains on Wednesday after the civil aviation authority said it definitely did not come from an airplane.
This is a load, but not from a plane.
An analysis of the muck, kind of them to use that word, that splattered the house in Tacoopa Valley on September 14th confirmed that it had no trace of the chemicals always put in an aircraft toilet, said Bill Summer, an authority.
Farmer Shawnee Gordon, poor farmer Shawnee Gordon, who raises sheep and cattle and knows something about the subject, is not convinced, and he's taking a sample to a laboratory specializing in human feces for a second opinion.
Since she spoke about the day that the UFO hit the house, there has been a spate of other reports of mystery droppings from about the country with ducks and geese mainly blamed.
However, however, the owner of this farmhouse said, I didn't hear a plane, but if this was a bird, it was one hell of a sick bird, because it was from one end of the house to the other.
Now, what do you suppose could do something of that magnitude?
Music One more time, because I think it is so important.
We are all residents and passengers on planet Earth.
And I'm telling you, just take a trip.
Take a moment.
It's late at night.
You know, you have time for a little bit of inner reflection about Stuff.
So if it's a Saturday night, take a moment out and go to your computer if you get a chance and go to coasttocoastam.com.
That's a website.
I had them put these photographs back up to look at the entire top part of our world as it was in 1990.
The top picture would be right on the front page there.
And then to look at the bottom photograph in 1999.
And for this not to cause you serious reflection and thought about the direction and what we're doing, whether it is by our hand or the hand of God, or it's just some great cyclical occurrence, it really doesn't matter.
It is such a profound change.
The ice is going away.
All of the ice is going away.
There's going to be nothing left up there except an ocean that our navies will have to learn to navigate and protect and whatever.
The whole world is changing.
This planet we live on right now is changing before our very eyes.
But it actually would be pretty cool if it was true.
unidentified
Yeah, I think they would probably regulate it pretty hefly.
But I got a question about a show I heard in 2001, and it was like a year before you're off the air, I think, and you were talking to some woman who said she could fly by using a trampoline to get off the air, and somehow she would.
In other words, the entire thing was claimed to be faked, right?
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no, not at all.
It was just the opposite.
He claimed that the way he, supposedly, the way he enhanced the film, I don't know, I can't remember how he did it, that if you he saw a whole family of Sasquatch, Bigfoot, whatever, behind trees, so forth and so on, and it was his theory that that female Bigfoot in the film were going to lead Gimlin and Patterson into like a trap.
Does that sound familiar to you at all?
I remember that, but I just don't remember the guy's name.
Well, yeah, I know, but how do you know this isn't the, I know I looked there, and yet the second time I went back, it was there?
You're thinking you manifested it back in that place, right?
unidentified
Yeah, well, see, I step on the places on the floor, or I managed to look there.
And, you know, the people who put it there, it's not me.
They swear they did it.
And it's like, I don't know if you've seen the movie Dark City, but, well, okay, I'm not spoiling the movie for you because they tell you three seconds in.
It's called tuning.
You kind of manipulate matter the way you would like it to be.
And I have even had items that have changed and nobody notices it but me.
And I've seen, I haven't seen the Philadelphia experiment, but I'm familiar with it.
And I believe time travel is possible.
But I don't know if my mind is going beyond linear time and I'm putting them where they are or I'm controlling people's minds from the future or from the past.
But they're rather large items like chairs, pieces of furniture that may be stowed away, that sort of thing.
At the expense of redundancy, many of you may have missed it.
And here's the way the whole thing developed.
It's very simple, really.
I was happily in retirement, if you can call, owning a radio station and running it along with your wife retirement.
But me whizzing along day to day.
And this incredible person named Robin Bertolucci called, and she's the program manager, director, honcho over at KFI in Los Angeles.
And she said, hey, why don't you do a show for KFI?
How about that idea?
Would you be willing to do that?
I thought about it.
I said, no, I'm retired, Robin.
Well, I know, but how about doing a show?
And I said, no.
And so then she called back.
She said, well, how about if I call you next Tuesday, you know, and maybe you'll feel different?
I said, all right, call me next Tuesday.
I said, call next Tuesday.
I said, no, I don't think so.
And then she called me again.
And I said, well, you know, look, I was sort of going to try to cast her away with this.
I said, you know, doing a show for one station, magnificently large as is KFI, would be the same amount of work as doing it for all the network, you know, the whole thing.
Trying to reason this away, right?
And she said, well, okay, then, how about coming back on the weekends and doing the network show?
And at this point, I'm going, oh, okay, fine.
Call the network.
You know, run the idea past the network, you know.
And I thought that was going to be that.
Five minutes later, the phone rang, and it was the president of our network saying, hey, you want to do weekends?
So that's how it happened.
One incredibly persistent woman named Robin Bertolucci, just a triple-A-type personality who wouldn't give up.
Oh, well, that's because we have a delay system here.
And your responsibility as a caller, because I come to you without screening your call, is to turn your radio down right away and trust in the fact where I say you're on the air that you are.
unidentified
Okay, I didn't know it was that delayed.
Well, I heard a caller say that he knew somebody that used to jump on a trampoline and then stay up in the air.
You're about to hear a guy who knows more about, sorry, Buff Bumper music, I couldn't resist more about staying alive than anybody else on the face of the planet.
Dr. Ronald Klatz is recognized as a leading authority in the new clinical science of anti-aging medicine.
What's going to be possible is going to blow your mind, folks.
For over a decade, Dr. Klatz has been integral in the pioneering exploration of new therapies for the treatment and prevention of age-related degenerative diseases.
He is the physician, founder, and president of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, Inc.
Dr. Klatz is highly regarded by scientific and academic colleagues for his continuing medical education lectures on the demographics of aging and the impact of biomedical technologies on longevity.
A consultant to the biotechnology industry and a respected advisor to several members of the U.S. Congress and others on Capitol Hill, Dr. Klatz devotes much of his time to research and to the development of advanced biosciences for the benefit of humanity.
I believe the Bible suggested that man at one time lived in excess of 900 years.
In a moment, we'll talk about, well, might that be possible again one day?
The End What's being done right now and what may be done in the foreseeable future is about to shock you.
We're making more of ourselves until about age 25.
And then from 25 onward, it's a downward slope.
And we're losing more cells.
We're catabolic after the age of 25.
So everything starts to head in the wrong direction.
Our metabolism heads in the wrong direction.
We start losing things like our hair, our vision, our nerve conduction velocity, the speed at which we're able to process information and memorize things.
Our strength heads south, our bone mass heads south, our cardiac function, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
And this degenerative process of metabolism is what we in anti-aging medicine really call aging.
And we don't like it.
That's why we are interested in anti-aging.
You see, we want to slow down that process.
We want to straighten out that slope so it goes straight across rather than hitting downward.
And in some instances, you know, we're able actually to reverse some of the degenerative metabolic processes of aging that lead to degenerative diseases and ultimately to death.
You see, the important lesson that everyone really needs to know is that aging is a 100% fatal disease.
Not a lot, at least not in the oldest living people that we can put our fingers on right now that are well documented are in their 115, 120, maybe a couple that are over 121, 22.
There are reports, not well documented, of people in their 130s, and there was one interesting report of a fellow who lived to be almost 150.
But the reports that are well documented and well accepted don't really go past 120.
But, you know, that's interesting, too, because after the flood, the patriarchs were only living to 120.
It's been over the last 160 years that scientists have had really good strong demographics of aging.
And these come from studies in Sweden, where they have very, very good birth and death records and civic records of individuals.
We've seen a constant increase in life expectancy by about two and a half years every decade.
And this is not decreasing.
This is actually increasing.
We're seeing that life expectancy, average life expectancy is increasing, and also maximum life expectancy is increasing as well.
Vopal and OPEM published this in Science about two years ago, and quite startling to the gerontologic establishment that's been poo-pooing anti-aging medicine since we got started.
But the reality is that in the year 1900 in the United States, life expectancy was only 47 years of age.
Well, today it's 77 years of age in the U.S. and increasing every year.
At the time of the Roman Empire, life expectancy was only about 30 years of age.
At the time, if you believe in the fossil record, I know everybody doesn't, but if you go back to cavemen, life expectancy was only about, or forget cavemen, go back to the time of Christ, life expectancy was only 25 years of age.
well we have better nutrition we have better sanitation we have vaccinations we have That's going way down.
We're actually beginning to impact slightly on cancer.
It's not that we have better treatments, but now we have earlier diagnosis.
And with early diagnosis, you can, in fact, get a cure rather than just a five-year survival.
So with regard to prostate and breast cancer, we're actually making some good headway on those particular cancers, basically because of early diagnosis.
Yeah, well, if we beat cancer, heart disease, and diabetes right now, that's going to get us to about 98 years of age.
And then if you drive a big car, say over 3,500 pounds, you know, one of those big clunker SUVs, you know, and you wear your seatbelts and you get all the safety equipment, the side air bags and all that stuff, you're probably going to make it past 100.
And, you know, that's not so bad.
And that's what, frankly, the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine is promising the baby boomers.
We say that 50% of the baby boomers who are alive and well today are going to see their 100th birthday and beyond.
And that message, by the way, is mirrored by the World Health Organization, who says pretty much the same thing.
So making it to 100 today is pretty much a reasonable expectation if you're following an anti-aging lifestyle.
But what you're looking for is you're looking for a little bit more, aren't you, Art?
But let me just say this, that we have the technology right now through anti-aging medicine to give most people who are really committed to a long and prodigious lifespan a healthy, youthful life expectancy of probably 85 years of age today,
maybe 90, in a not too distant future, 100, and I believe in the next 20 years or so, maybe 110, 120 might be very possible, given the technologies that are available today or in the pipeline that seem to be available very shortly.
Let's say you were to come to one of the doctors from the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine.
And you wanted to go through an anti-aging program.
He would take some blood and he'd put you on a treadmill and he'd put you under an MRI scanner, magnetic resonance imaging scanner.
He'd scan you head to toe, and he would be looking for cancer, heart disease, diabetes, Parkinson's disease, all kinds of metabolic problems that are going to cut your life short.
And he's going to take your blood and he's going to look for levels of oxidative products within your blood or antioxidant, free radical moieties that occur when your body burns oxygen for energy.
He's going to look at the DNA within your cells and see if they're unraveling prematurely because some people's DNA is not quite as hardy as other people's.
Telomeres are kind of like if you wear shoes that have shoelaces, telomeres are like those little plastic things on the ends of shoelaces to keep them from unraveling.
Well, if you think of the DNA helix at the ends of the DNA helix, there's these things called telomeres.
And what they are Is they're the end pieces, the end caps of the DNA.
And every time the DNA reproduces itself, because our cells are constantly dividing within our body, the telomeres become shorter and shorter and shorter and shorter.
And eventually, they hit a point where they don't want to reproduce as rapidly.
Also, as your DNA unravels, as your DNA starts to reproduce and the telomeres shorten and they start to open up little sites on the genes, which are these kind of like shoelaces that are intertwined.
And these genes code for the production of proteins that do nasty things, that do things that we commonly regard as aging, like putting hair in your nose.
And so what you want to do to stop cancer from reproducing is to put into the cancer by a vector, like a virus or something, into the cancer cell, something that slows down the reproductive rate and telamerase,
which is an enzyme that, anyway, reprogramming the telomeres within the cells of cancer can stop the cancer from growing and turns the cancer from being cancerous into being non-cancerous.
So there's a lot of work being done with telomeres for cancer.
That research also has some spin-off to aging or anti-aging medicine.
Since cancer is the out-of-control growth of cells, once you understand that and or control the growth of cells, then you control the growth of other cells.
Once you have a control of that, you may be able to use your understanding of telomeres to help to reprogram the cells so that they continue to reproduce in a more youthful way.
Okay, well, if you can accomplish that, then you're going to be in really good shape because then you can extend human lifespan quite significantly.
Okay, Doctor, you know where the leading edge research on this sort of thing is, right?
I hope so.
In other words, for example, on either reconstituting or changing these telomeres so that they don't come apart and they don't, like a fuse that you have lit, just go down and then you unravel.
How close are we actually to being able to affect that in years of research, do you suppose?
But when you've got this magic elixir, and excuse me for being dramatic, but I mean, if there's a new magic elixir that nobody, or potential magic elixir that nobody really knows about yet, and you have an opportunity to, let us say, inject it to yourself, you know, into yourself.
When you say using experimental substances, you know, in anti-aging medicine, something experimental has been around, in our opinion, for about 20 or 30 years.
Nobody's using things that are just coming out of the laboratory that have never been tried on animals or people before.
In the nighttime, we're talking about what we all do.
Getting old.
It was pretty well described by Dr. Klatz, but there are things on the horizon that really will shock you, and that's what we're going to be talking about tonight.
Anti-aging medicine is the real thing, and what they're close to is really fascinating, and the implications of it, of course, are amazing.
Well, let me try once more, because I'm always going to be pushing you to places you don't want to go, Doctor.
But I mean, if there really was this magic elixir ready for the first human test and there's nobody else around, would you, assuming that you had some confidence in it, risk it and, you know, say it to add another 50 or 100 years?
Okay, but if it was a very minor question of safety, but see, that's the good thing about anti-aging medicine is that our docs and our, you know, we're really very concerned about safety.
And if the safety is there, then we don't care about the efficacy.
We'll try anything, because if it doesn't work, we're nowhere, we haven't lost anything.
If it does work, great.
Let me give you an example, because I know what you're looking for, and you want me to name names and give dates.
And I'm going to give you one.
I rarely do this, Art.
You know I'm very conservative about this, but I'm going to tell you about a drug that has very good potential that's kind of exciting that we're looking at real seriously right now.
There's a Dr. Moskowitz who is with the, used to be with the Veterans Administration, a researcher, a very fine researcher.
And he started this small company called Genomedics.
And he has a website, Genomedics, G-E-N-O-Med, M-E-D-I-C-S dot com.
And what he came up with, which was kind of interesting, is he discovered that angiogenic or angiotensin converting enzyme was associated with all kinds of aging-related diseases, including many forms of cancer,
heart disease, also involved with vulnerability to viral infections such as West Nile virus, poliomyelitis, St. Louis equine encephalitis, and even HIV.
And what he has done is he has pulled hundreds and hundreds of research papers on this angiogenic converting enzyme and found that there is an association between people who have high levels of this enzyme, which occurs naturally with aging and these diseases.
And then what he has done with his company is he set up these clinical trials to give people a drug which blocks ACE.
It turns out that, again, there's multiple different reasons for aging, but a common threat happens to be this unwinding or this D or this injury to our DNA.
Now, that's how free radicals happen.
that's why you take vitamins.
Vitamins protect you against free radical damage.
What do free radicals do?
Well, free radicals damage the cell.
What's the most sensitive part of the cell that they damage?
They damage the DNA.
If the DNA gets damaged, the cell either dies or becomes aberrant in its production of proteins or it may even be worse, become cancer.
So we like to take a lot of vitamins, vitamin A, C, E, selenium, things like that, to protect ourselves from these free radicals, scavenge these free radicals that occur.
People who take vitamins, we don't know if they live longer, but they certainly have less diseases.
They have less incidence of heart disease, less incidence of stroke, less incidence of certain forms of cancer.
So we know that free radicals are very helpful.
As a matter of fact, just last week, something that I never thought would happen in my lifetime is the pharmaceutical company sponsored a study for Medicare that actually came out endorsing the use of vitamins in the elderly for reducing the cost of Medicare because it lowers the incense of hospitalization in elderly people.
Well, that's what anti-aging medicine is all about, Art.
I'm glad you brought that up.
And the point of anti-aging medicine is the reason why we don't call it gerontology, gerontology is all about keeping old people comfortable in their last few years.
And until you do, you can't do anything about old age.
But if you do recognize aging for what it is, a degenerative process, and if you're successful with anti-aging, we're going to put old people out of business.
And you're also telling me, doctor, aren't you, that there's a chance, or even today, we have the technology available to not just perhaps arrest the process or slow it down, but to actually reverse.
To reverse certain forms of it today, but in the future, I believe we're going to be able to reverse perhaps the whole thing, or at least put it on hold.
My view of anti-aging will be that within the next 30 years or so, we'll have the technology to stop aging at about age 55 or 60, and you'll be able to go on like that so that you won't be able to really tell much difference between a healthy and athletic 105-year-old versus a couch potato 55-year-old.
You know, this is probably a stupid question, but there have been stories and fiction throughout all of mankind's ability to write about such things, of magic elixirs, of things that people may have once discovered, of people who may have lived much longer than they let on, that sort of thing, that there might be a secret thing that people in Hollywood who can afford it consume.
I don't know, you know, a million rumors out there.
They certainly defy our traditional views of aging, and they're accomplishing that not simply by leading a good lifestyle, but by employing the technologies that we're talking about in anti-aging medicine.
You know, the kind of things that we have.
Have you seen my new book, The New Anti-Aging Revolution Art?
A basic question, and that is: if you went for the whole Magilla, this is a money question.
If you just wanted to go hog wild and you said, Hey, I want everything done that science can do right now to either keep me young or make me younger, and I've got all the money I need, how much would it take?
But, you know, if you throw in plastic surgery, while I understand that it gives one a more youthful look, it's not anti-aging in the sense that I think of anti-aging.
I think of the arresting of the process more than I do the folding of the skin back, you know, the staples or whatever.
Well, we have a lot of plastic surgeons involved in anti-aging.
And the reason for it is that once people start looking better on the outside, then they suddenly become concerned about how they look on the inside.
That's probably a bass ackwards way of looking at it.
But that's just human nature, and that's okay with me.
I don't care how people get to anti-aging as long as they get to it, because it's really a new paradigm of health care for this new millennium.
Anti-aging medicine truly has the potential to solve the health care crisis that this country is and the entire Western world is in, because we look at disease from, you know, I believe the correct perspective, which is the prevention of disease and the amelioration of disease before it presents itself clinically and it's incurable.
No, most people, Viagra has very few, you know, there were...
Just like if you hadn't exercised in a long time, you went out and one played basketball with Michael Jordan, you might just fall down on the court and not get up again.
But if you act in a prudent manner and do things in a reasonable way, it's a very, very safe substance and has proven itself in millions and millions of people.
The good news is they're working for age-related memory loss.
We're coming around, finally, the pharmaceutical industry, the medical industry is coming around to an understanding that medicine isn't just about broken bones or bleeding to death.
It's about quality of life issues.
It's about degenerative diseases, degenerative diseases commonly known as aging.
You know, Bristle Cone pines live maybe 5,000 years.
People, lifespan for people, theoretically possible.
I mean, let's talk about, okay.
Today, when I started in this thing in 19, I had the first anti-aging medicine practice, full-time medicine practice in America, I believe, in the year 19 in the early 80s, 84.
Okay, I was one of the very first.
As a matter of fact, I coined the term anti-aging medicine.
Okay, well, I discuss some of these on our website, which is www.worldhealth.net.
That's like the World Health Organization, worldhealth.net.
But when I talk about practical immortality, there's a Dr. White who back in the 1960s did a series of very interesting experiments that gave him a lot of grief.
He was from Case Western University at the time, and he did these monkey head transplants.
Well, if you can grow a new body, and we can grow new bodies now with cloning technology, you could essentially, and very, you know, with a high degree of probability, transplant your head from your old diseased, decrepit body onto a brand new, fresh body.
And if the circulation is all intact, and if you have a brand new immune system, brand new heart, brand new lungs, everything else, chances are good that the brain, which doesn't age very much at all, it doesn't age nearly as fast as the rest of the body.
The brain's probably good for 150, 200 years without much in the way of other than a really good circulation and maybe a few stem cells.
And with stem cell technology, you might be able to go much longer than that.
Okay, if you were to take your upper body at the nipple line, you wouldn't have to worry about being, you know, you would have certainly use of your arms, use of your voice, use of your face.
All that nerves would be intact, even if we weren't able to affect a spinal cord transplant, though that technology is coming along, too.
I mean, it won't be long before Christopher Reeves is up walking again.
And perhaps complete spinal cord injury, but certainly partial transection of the spinal cord.
There are some researchers in Israel that have already made some very significant advances in young people who have had very serious spinal cord transections where they have feeling in their legs and they're able to move their toes and control their bladder and their bowels now where they weren't able to before.
In laboratory animals, in mice, you can take an almost complete transection of the spinal cord and you can regrow the spinal cord such that the animal can start to walk again.
Not perfectly, but certainly able to ambulate in a reasonable fashion.
And that's why it's so critical that the American public stands up for their own future and that they get behind biomedical research that can really change the world in a very meaningful way.
In America, we're spending a trillion and a half dollars a year on health care, and we sure as heck ain't getting our money's worth.
Let me tell you, nobody is happy with the health care system as it works today.
Well, considering what health care costs every year, to disrupt an industry of that size, I mean, if you think the guy who had the carburetor that'll go 100 miles on water or whatever the silly thing was that they rumored, you know, he was killed and buried in the desert as a lump.
Imagine what would happen to somebody who came out with something that would actually prevent all of these diseases.
Well, there's already, you know, if you want to have some fun, go on the net and go to World HealthNet, our website, the official website of the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, www.worldhealth.net, and look up intellectual dishonesty and look up the story behind injectable human growth hormone for use as an anti-aging drug.
It's been actively suppressed.
It's been a whole, you know, millions of dollars of government funds have been used, I believe, illegally and unjustly, to create this whole controversy Around a wonderful drug that could save the lives or improve the lives of millions and millions of people, but it's been actively suppressed because this is a wonder drug of anti-aging medicine par excellence.
It has fantastic science behind it.
But the gerontologic establishment, the very few people at the top of the gerontologic establishment, didn't want there to be a drug of high note and high visibility that would prove that anti-aging medicine really worked.
And so for a decade, they actively suppressed the research around this drug and created a controversy where none really existed and really made up bogus science to support their claims.
And nothing's been done about it, and the media won't even report on it.
If you lead a very clean life, you may live an extra three, four, five, maybe even six years on average, as opposed to people who lead a relatively not so clean life.
And it depends on whether that's worth it to you.
But that's really not enough for us in anti-aging medicine.
An extra four or five years doesn't cut it for us.
We're really looking at altering the mechanisms of aging and metabolism so that people can be looking forward to a life expectancy, a healthy life expectancy, right on up to age 100.
And again, if one of these miracle drugs comes along that can alter DNA breakdown or antioxidant activity within the cell, we might be looking at lifespans of 120, 130, maybe much longer.
In animal studies, this is exactly what we've done already.
If you're a mouse or a fruit fly or a roundworm, we can easily increase your life expectancy by 40%, 50%, 100% with genetic engineering as much as 300%.
Well, the reason why we haven't done this is realize that anti-aging research, there is no anti-aging research out there.
Anti-aging medicine is a clinical specialty because doctors are doing it on themselves and their families and friends and their patients and seeing remarkable results.
It has been the mark of death for a researcher's career until the last, maybe the last four or five years, to even delve into the issues of anti-aging medicine.
Anti-aging medicine has developed as a science by serendipity, pure serendipity.
Everything that we do has come out of cardiological cardiac research, out of research in genetic engineering and cell biology, and all these other specialties.
The National Institute of Aging, which is the U.S. government agency that spends money on aging research, their budget in 2002 was about $1 billion or so.
How much of that do you think they spent on anti-aging clinical research?
A lot of money is going into issues of social issues of aging, into old people, some research into Alzheimer's disease, but most of it is administrative and social issues of aging, like why old people in nursing homes are depressed.
I understand exactly what you're saying, but, you know, such an attitude is born of the inevitability or apparent inevitability, excuse me when speaking to you, of aging.
Well, let me tell you what I really do believe in.
I believe in a personal relationship with God.
And I like to think that I'm helping to discover God's creation and helping to bring that into reality.
And I believe that God wants us to live a long and healthy life as long as we have to to accomplish what we have to here on the earth.
And for some people, maybe that's 70 years.
And for other people, maybe it's 140 years.
Now, with regard to the soul, I suppose if I had absolute, complete belief that there was a soul and that there was a hereafter and another life that I was going to, I would be perhaps less motivated than I am now.
Yeah, even though I believe in God and I believe in a higher power and I believe that there is really a purpose to this universe and to this world, I am not certain that my uncertain that my consciousness will continue onward.
Maybe my soul or my energy or something of me will continue onward, but my consciousness, which I now hold very near and dear to me, which is what I think and feel, I don't know that that will continue onward.
I really haven't seen any good evidence to support that.
Even the people who report near-death experiences, it's not, at least what I've seen hasn't been overwhelming.
Are you unsure enough, Doctor, that if that moment was there for you and the opportunity to have your head transplanted to a brand new body, new immune system, workable, everything came along, you'd go for it?
Well, okay, I was picking on what you said earlier.
I said, are you unsure enough of the existence of the soul that if the opportunity at near death for you came along to have your head transplanted to a young, healthy life?
And it's not even if I knew that there was a soul and there was another existence, I might want to hang around here long enough to accomplish what I'm supposed to do on this planet.
I mean, if 9-11 hadn't happened, I mean, you know, and the economy was booming along, there would be all this support for all these biotechnologies that, you know, the entire biomedical revolution is focused almost 100% on anti-aging.
Everything that's going on in the laboratories right now in biomedical revolution, whether it be human genomics or protein, you know, the Big Blue project where they have these supercomputers To figure out how proteins are bending and work within the body, whether it be brain implants or stem cells or cloning technology or new drugs, almost 100% of this will yield results for anti-aging purposes.
You know, stem cells are basically the progenitor cells that create our entire bodies.
These are the cells, you know, we all start out from just a couple of cells that fuse during sexual mating and go on to create billions and trillions of cells that become a human person.
Is regeneration and rejuvenation of every system in our bodies.
Stem cells are being used clinically right now to reverse sickle cell disease, are being used experimentally in cystic fibrosis, experimentally in Alzheimer's disease, in stroke, and in heart attack.
And it's working to one extent or another in almost, not almost, in all these disease conditions.
It could lead to major breakthroughs that would lead to vast expanses in life expectancy.
And the really good news is the government just last week announced, the NIH announced it is going to free up $2 billion to allow stem cell research to go forward.
You know, there was this moratorium on stem cell research because of the religious issues.
I believe it was a political issue for whatever superpower politics were going on in healthcare.
Maybe they're afraid that stem cells could cure too many diseases, and that's going to put too many companies out of business.
I never saw it being a religious issue from the beginning.
Neither did any of the scientists in the field who knew enough.
I believe what caused them to release the monies is that even though we had created a moratorium of stem cells here in the United States, England, Israel, India, China, Japan, the entire rest of the world were moving ahead, great guns on stem cells.
And the guys in charge here figured they didn't want to be left in the dirt, and that's exactly where we were going to be.
You know, people are living, you know, realize that it's only been, there's been no such thing as old age in Western, in the world, period, prior to the 1950s.
Old age was unknown.
People never lived long enough to worry about Social Security, never worried about nursing homes.
These are relatively new events, only in the last 50 years, 100 years at the most.
We are evolving.
And in the Western world, our population rate is actually zero population, is actually negative population growth.
The only reason why we're expanding in the United States is because of immigration.
But Italy has a reproductive rate per couple of 1.4 per couple.
And break-even is 2.2.
In Germany, it's 1.6.
In Great Britain, it's like 1.5.
In the United States, I believe it's something like 1.7.
The point is that living longer doesn't necessarily lead to overpopulation because when people live long, prodigious lifespans, they have less children.
Because in the Western world, the more children you have, the lower your socioeconomic status and the less available monies you have to spend on yourself and your enjoyment and your pleasure.
In the third world countries, the more children you have, because it's still an agrarian society, you need kids to work the farm or to go out and make money or to, you know, a lot of children die during childbirth and during childhood.
You need a lot of kids and a big family just to keep bread and food on the table.
If there was a sudden magic bullet elixir, do you think that if the government had an opportunity to stop it, stop it cold, I mean, a virtual immortality drug, that they would indeed do so?
Or how would it happen politically?
I mean, would the politicians get a shot at it and their families and the richer people, the corporate giants in America?
You can bet that if it comes out of the major corporation, it's going to be suppressed and it's going to be controlled and it's going to be from the top down.
It's going to be top down all the way.
If it comes from a smaller entrepreneurial organization, if it comes from members of the Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, it will be out there much, much sooner.
It's much more likely that it will come out of a major corporation and it will be suppressed, or that it will be snarked up by a major corporation, which will then, or the government, will pounce on it with both feet because the government doesn't like change.
They've got everything wired just the way they want it right now.
Or you can send an email, and we'll contact you to books at worldhealth.net and send your email address, and someone will contact you and ship you out a book.
And I'll tell you what, Art, if they mention your name, I'll hand-autograph the book to them.
But it is because you are in complete control of how affected you will be by stress.
And if you exercise prudent methods, meditation, relaxation, exercise, decent sleep schedule, the effects of stress will be much less than if you do not.
Well, is it true, doctor, that people who are triple A-type personalities, I mean, just really going every second, and you know the people as well as I do, are they going to die earlier necessarily?
I was always told that when we sleep, and this is from your book, I know you have a big segment on sleep.
When we sleep, that we regenerate cells.
And I don't know, our body does a sort of a natural repair cycle or something.
People who get a lot of sleep versus people who get a little bit of sleep, I know a lot of people can survive on three and four hours of sleep, they say, a night.
Sleep is still a major, major mystery in medicine.
We still don't know why we have to sleep.
But there are certain things that do occur during sleep that are very important.
One is the release of human growth hormone from the anterior pituitary in the brain.
And human growth hormone is a major regulatory hormone.
Every cell of the body has a receptor site for it.
It controls every cell of the body.
It also controls thyroid hormone, testosterone.
It controls the immune system.
It controls many other systems within the body.
If you don't sleep, you don't release human growth.
If you don't sleep well, deeply, you don't release human growth hormone.
You don't allow the body to go into the repair and recuperative phases that only occur in the deep stages of sleep.
The four stages of sleep, the repair and recuperation, rejuvenation occurs in stage three and four.
If you're a light sleeper or if you don't sleep well enough or if you snore or have sleep apnea or whatever and you don't make it into stage three and four sleep, you will not release human growth hormone.
You will not regenerate many of the organ systems of your body and you will set yourself up for premature diseases, including diabetes.
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Before we go to the telephones, I've got one, I think, really important question, and it is this.
If we achieve lifespans, Dr. Klatz, of, oh, I don't know, 300 years, 1,000 years, 5,000 years, immortality, as it is right now, and maybe you can comment on this.
Maybe it's an artifact of aging itself.
However, I have for a long time now sort of held the theory, I may have told you about it before, that, and this is almost universal, too, almost everybody feels it, it seems like, as we age, as we get older, we begin to notice that the world is going to hell in a handbasket,
that young people have proceeded to new heights of debauchery, and their music stinks, and a lot of things are happening that, frankly, by the time if you made it into your 90s, let's say, you're ready to go.
You're going to throw up your hands and say, this sucks.
I'm out of here.
I'm ready to go.
I Really am ready to go.
Now, if you lived 300 years, 1,000, 5,000 years, there would come a time, no doubt, even though physically you were able to stay alive, when you simply didn't want to be here any longer.
Now, talk about stepping into a Pandora's box of ethical questions.
Well, I don't think you have to be bored to death.
And the other thing is, Art, realize, I mean, you know, when you were growing up, you know, the height of technology, at least, well, when I was growing up, the height of technology was a crystal radio set.
Okay, but doctor, you, as a doctor, I don't have to tell you, your job is to save life, prolong life, value life above all else.
So if we really got to that point, that mythical point that we were just talking about, wouldn't a doctor's view of life have to radically alter in order to allow for what you discussed, you know, the quick call to Dr. Duff.
You know, anti-aging medicine has happened by pure serendipity.
It wasn't paid for by the government.
It hasn't been supported by the government.
It's been actually suppressed by certain factors.
But it's happening anyway, quite to the chagrin of the people in charge.
And there are now 30,000 doctors around the world who have been trained by the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine.
And what we really need to go to the next level, to start having some major breakthroughs happen, is we need a center of excellence, a clinical research center focused on anti-aging, because everything that's happened so far has happened without any focus on anti-aging.
And unfortunately, the government hasn't seen fit to fund any of this, and there is not a single hospital in the United States that has an anti-aging department in it, though overseas hospitals and even medical schools are beginning to start up anti-aging medical programs.
Not me, but the profession needs an Art Bell radio telethon to raise enough money to create a clinical center of excellence.
You know, the American Academy of Anti-Aging MS is a 501c3.
We're a nonprofit organization.
I'm an unpaid volunteer for the academy, so are all the other doctors who run the academy.
We need to do a radio telethon to raise the money to create a hospital-based or university-based center of excellence for clinical anti-aging medical research to really move this profession into the mainstream.
And you're the guy who can do it, Art.
You can be the patron saint of anti-aging medicine.
I want your listeners to send you letters and kind of encourage you in that direction, or at least, if not that, to send Bill Gates or Michael Dell or one of those guys to the academy.
Maybe, I don't know what kind of shape you're in, Arc, because we never met in the flesh.
We've had wonderful conversations.
But on average, if I look at the average anti-aging medicine patient, which is a male about age 65, who's usually very successful financially and in other ways, but has kind of abused themselves physically.
In the space of six months, it is quite common to see age regression on a laboratory basis, not just looking at them, but measurable on laboratory parameters by 10 years.
But the Art Bell Radio Telethon, for a clinical center of excellence in anti-aging medicine, for a non-profit, federally registered 501c3 art, you could be immortal just from that.
I'm wondering if there's been any studies done on properties of MSM on its own.
I know it's normally used to cause medications to propagate better through the body, but I'm wondering if there's been any studies done just specifically on MSM and anti-aging.
Well, they're reporting now that people who have been on ibuprofen, which is another anti-inflammatory, appears to be protective against Alzheimer's disease.
And perhaps against some forms of adult-onset diabetes.
Really?
Again, by the anti-inflammatory process.
Now, whether Celebrex will have the same beneficial effect, we don't know, but it stands to reason that if you can lower the levels of circulating inflammatory cytokines, or these chemicals that our bodies produce that aren't so good for us of inflammation, you may be able to slow various aspects of aging.
What would you say to the people who would say to you, Doctor, this is the fact that we have a certain lifespan and we grow old and die is God's will, and you're screwing around with God's will?
Okay, and the reason why I don't is because if that were the case, then people who came up with vaccines for polio were screwing around with God's will.
And people come up with any cure for any disease.
Okay, God doesn't want us to suffer.
I just can't buy that.
And if he did, then I'm a sinner.
And I think I'm quite the opposite.
I'm trying to accomplish God's will by improving the quality and the quantity of life for every man, woman, and child alive today.
You know, God has given us the intellectual horsepower and the technology to discover our universe and both the exterior universe or the stars and the planets and the interior universe, the micro-world of the cells and DNA and quarks and microatomic particles.
Now, why would God give us this ability to understand the actual underpinnings of his mechanism if he didn't want us to discover it?
Dr. Klapps, my question is, in your opinion, will DHEA or HGH have a positive or negative effect with a male in his, let's say, 50s or 60s with prostate cancer?
If you have prostate cancer, you shouldn't be taking anything that's going to stimulate the prostate to grow faster.
Any aspect of it.
Now, it turns out, let's talk about human growth hormone.
There was a big, again, misinformation program out there about IgF, which is one of the mediators that when you take human growth hormone as an injection, it has an effect in the body, but it also circulates to the liver and is converted to IGF, which is insulin growth factor, one, and that circulates and has another effect similar to growth hormone, but a little bit different.
And a number of researchers looked at a bunch of people with prostate cancer and said, oh, look at this.
Some of these people with prostate cancers have high IgF levels.
And therefore, their theory was, well, IGF stimulates, you know, is stimulated with prostate cancer.
Therefore, don't take human growth hormone.
Well, that research hasn't panned out.
It hasn't been replicated.
And it turns out the human growth hormone stimulates the immune system, which may protect you against prostate cancer.
But having said all that, the basic conventional wisdom in medicine is don't give anything to somebody with a cancer that might possibly stimulate the growth of their cancer.
So the good advice is don't take stimulants such as DHEA and human growth.
I have been conducting a survey over three years asking people if they could live to 350 in as good health as Michael Jordan out of speak where they want to do it.
Well, so I really question these kind of polls because people don't have any clue what it's like until they're looking the Grim Reaper in the face.
And if people were that brave to be willing to cut their mortal coil and move on, we wouldn't be having people grasping for life as they are at every stage of life.
Let's face it, people want to live, and they want to live under almost any circumstances.
And with anti-aging medicine, the circumstances aren't so bad.
And I think they knew, as we did, that this scenario of old age will change, just as in the 1900s, the idea of half the people out there or being subjected or dying from the number one cause of death in the 1900s was diarrheal diseases.
Dr. Ronald Klatz is my guest, and we're talking about anti-aging.
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And your research are as much as you're going to be able to do the limited resources you have.
I really would have thought there would have been much more in the way of resources thrown into this, considering the interest that, you know, older people would have.
You know, Art, I did too, and that's why I completely changed my career path and my medical focus and everything else because I really believe built it and they will come.
Well, we've built it, and it's happening, and it's happening in spite of, not because of, the limited support that is out there for anti-aging medicine.
And, you know, even the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine, our society, even though we have 12,500 members, we've trained 30,000 doctors, we're still really a bootstrap operation, and our website, www.worldhealth.net, number one in space, but even that doesn't generate income.
Well, maybe you're right, but I just don't believe it.
I don't think people really look forward to the golden years and want arthritis or want macular degeneration or want Alzheimer's disease or want all the things that are heir to old age.
Well, the planet will, you know, the carrying capacity of the planet, we don't know what it is.
You know, some of the better thinkers have said 10, 12, 15 billion people.
The current projections are at current rates of growth of population, the planet is going to peak out and will start heading south after about 10 billion people because as the third world develops longer lifespans, it becomes economically disadvantageous to have more and more children.
And so the longer you live, the less children families tend to have.
So anti-aging tends to be a positive factor towards negative population growth rather than the other way around.
So even though you're living longer, people have less children.
I mean, imagine that you had to plan your life like I did when I was 15.
When I was 15, I had to decide where I was going to graduate school, where I was going to college, where I was going to medical school, where I was going to do, where I was going to marry.
But under an anti-aging scenario where life expectancies are 100, 120, 150 years, people can spend the first 30 years of their life being minstrels, traveling the planet, just living for the sake of life before ever having to start a career.
And then train for a career, work in it for five years, retire for a year, two years, retrain in another career, work in it for a few years, et cetera, et cetera.
Also, there's another issue, and that's technology.
For example, right now, I don't think people really particularly pay attention to ecological problems that will manifest themselves, for example, in 100 years, because they don't think they're going to be around to worry about it.
honest you have to be really brutally honest most people know damn well they're not going to be here in a hundred years so who the hell cares and when do people become philosophical they become philosophical after the age of thirty five or forty one notice process well underway that's right because there's a certain wisdom that comes with experience yes and there's a certain uh...
you know, like not just me, but us kind of attitude as you get older in life.
You know, the Academy of Anti-Agen Medicine really couldn't exist without its sponsors, and two of the strongest supporters of our work in education research is Market America and MedHouse Pharmacy, and I just wanted to thank them for making it possible for me to be here to talk with you.
And stem cells and all the new kind of stuff that comes along.
They're less likely to be...
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Do you think there could be a problem with people like this that wouldn't want to do major changes because they like the things the way they are and that could possibly help society?
No, I mean, I say that in jest, but one of the reasons why people don't like change as they grow older is they can't process information as quickly as they did when they were younger.
And so that's a function not of wisdom or of experience, but it's a function of physiologic function where they're losing mental capacity, where they're losing the ability to learn new things.
Well, under an anti-aging scenario, people would not lose their capacity for new learning.
Well, it becomes uncomfortable for them to address new issues.
That's why people with Alzheimer's disease or people with mental problems, period, should never be moved out of their homes because they're perfectly comfortable.
They understand where everything's at.
They're able to function very well in their home environment.
But you put them in the hospital and there's a thing called ICU psychosis, where a lot of people who are perfectly good at home become completely disoriented and completely incapacitated as soon as you move them into a new environment, such as the hospital.
Just real quick, I want to say I'm glad that you're back on the air, first of all.
Thank you.
We missed you.
And second of all, my question originally was about the coral reef calcium supplement and keeping the body with the whole acid-based balance, keeping the body more alkaline than acidic, and if that helped with fighting off diseases and such.
But in listening to you talk, I want to just have a quick comment and then I'll break off here about the whole growing older and everybody 300 years old and all that.
Imagine an Einstein that's 300 years old.
All that other stuff will work itself out as far as where we're going to put these people and where the food's going to come from and all that.
But I think that it boils down to survival instinct.
I find it hard to believe that a lot of people don't want to survive.
That should be the main function of any animal is survival.
Okay, so we might be able to grasp and get hold of and then successfully extend the lives of our body, the rest of our body, but what if we can't do anything for the brain?
But the evidence is starting to show that with stem cell technology, we can repair the brain too.
And if you really are stuck with a finite limit to cellular capacity to regenerate, and some people used to be, the Hayflick constant used to stop a lot of researchers from exploring anti-aging because they thought that there was an absolute limit.
We now know that there's not.
That's been debunked.
But let's say that there is some other limit that we come up against.
Well, there's other ways of achieving practical immortality.
There is technology afoot right now for being able to collect your thoughts, your feelings, Your data, your knowledge of your life, and maybe create an artificial computer-based intelligence of your life experience, which would become its own personality and its own mirror image of you.
Well, as quickly as we really are moving in the computer arena, I really wouldn't be surprised but that one day we could download the essence of a human being, even their consciousness into a computer.
And oh my, what a can of worms we're going to have then.
Anyway, listen, we don't have a lot of time, so lay it out.
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I have a couple of questions, and then I think that I can let you go from there.
When we were talking about, y'all were talking about the DHEA and the growth hormones and so forth, there's a lot of dispute as to what growth hormones, what am I trying to say here, the type of growth hormones, whether it's pill form or whether it can only be given in the shots and this and that and the other.
Human growth hormone, the research was done on injectable forms of human growth hormone, and injectable forms of human growth hormone are very powerful, and they do work very well.
You can't put human growth hormone in a pill yet because it's too large a molecule.
It doesn't get absorbed through the stomach.
However, there are products out there that are growth hormone stimulators, pretagogues, and these are amino acids that work very well in young athletes.
And millions of young athletes have taken these amino acids to boost their athletic performance.
And it does so in part by stimulating the production of growth hormone or augmenting the natural production of growth hormone.
And these things do work.
Now, they only work up to a certain age, about 50, 55, depends on the individual.
And then you start to lose the ability to release growth hormone, period.
And the only thing that's going to work for you at that point is the injectable form.
There are spray products on the market, but they are pretty much without science.
They are not really growth hormone.
They're more marketing than anything else.
You have to be buyer-be-where, caveat mTOR, when it comes to anti-aging, because it's such a powerful term.
Marketeers glom onto anti-aging, and they create a real problem for us, the scientists, and the physicians in anti-aging medicine.
So if you're trying to get hard answers, we address many of these issues with regard to consumer protection at worldhealth.net.