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Oct. 3, 2002 - Art Bell

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Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell - Remote Viewing - Maj. Ed Dames

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art bell ▲ ● ▼		From the high desert and the great American Southwest, I would do all good evening, good morning, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the known universe, covered by this program, and it is.
		I will include space as well with all those FM signals lighting through the ionosphere like a hot night through water.
		This is post-code AMI Market.
		Oh, well.
		Uh for the last week.
		Uh, including the last night, I have been once again attacked by my own bat.
		Big time, I've been uh bent about a 30-degree angle for many days now, and uh pretty awful.
		So here I am again tonight, and uh I'm still bent at a good 20-degree angle when I walk.
		It's not a pretty thing to observe.
		But I am back, and uh feels great to be here.
		Now, I should like to first welcome a brand new affiliate.
		It's WKBK in Keene, New Hampshire.
		1290 on the magical AM dial, 5 kilowatts.
		Pretty good, 1290.
		Hi to Mike Trumbly, I guess it is, and PD Dan Mitchell.
		Thank you both for getting us on and prepare your listeners for the worst.
		Speaking of preparing for the worst, the easiest way I can describe Major Ed Dames, the world's foremost remote viewing teacher, and what he's going to talk about tonight, is by telling you what he's going to talk about tonight.
		And a few items on the list.
		This marks his seventh year as a guest here on Coast to Coast with me.
		Tonight, we're going to discuss, in detail, UFOs with Ed, crop circles, other enigma, the Mars connection, foreign terrorists here on U.S. soil, chemtrails.
		Now, I can't believe he put that down.
		You know, I've got a list of things he wants to talk about.
		We always get this.
		Chemtrails are the one thing that Ed Dames would never, ever talk about.
unidentified		Ever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So I wonder why tonight.
		And he says, prepare for the attack of the fungi.
		And you thought that you knew what a horrible death meant.
		Cover your children's ears, remove the faint of heart from the room, and prepare for nightmares of the fungi.
		Ed has been talking, as you know, about fungus for quite a while.
		There's apparently new information on that, a whole lot more.
		That's what he sent me.
		So that tells you where the next hour is going to be going.
		He is indeed the world's foremost remote viewer.
		Certainly the foremost remote viewing teacher.
		I think that would be a fair statement.
		Oh, by the way, this weekend, before I get into the meat of where we're going, oh boy, have I got some good stuff for you tonight.
		Oh, man.
		But before we get into that, this weekend, here in my little town, my little town.
unidentified		Oh, I should get out that music, shouldn't I?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Prump, Nevada, we have something called the Harvest Festival.
		And it really, really is something.
		Every year I mention the Harvest Festival going on.
		Well, it's this weekend coming up in Prump, Nevada.
		Actually, it gets underway tomorrow, or in some ways it did today.
		But really, you know, the weekend is the Harvest Festival.
		And it is a blast.
		You know, there's carnival rides, and it's a carnival, and it's really big, and there's a lot of people, and it's really cool and really fun.
		And so if you're within driving distance of southern Nevada, this is the one of, I think Prump is probably most famous, its most famous event clearly is the Harvest Festival, and it is a blast.
		So if you can get out here, if you're anywhere within driving distance, please come on out.
		By the way, KMYE, our local radio station here in town will have a booth, and I took a photo of it.
		I quadrimotoed myself down.
		Look at this beautiful booth.
		My contractor built this beautiful booth for me, Wes Wallace, Credit where credit's due.
		Wes built this incredible booth at Harvest Festival, and it's really cool.
		I took a photograph of it with the Ramona inside.
		That was the extent of what I did down there.
		And then I hurried home, listening all the way.
		It's a really cool booth.
		And so I took a photograph of it, and I wrote a little thing at the top, and it's under what's new on my website.
		First item under What's New.
		So we'll be out.
		I will quadrato my way out there and sit for a while or maybe vegetate in some other way.
		I don't know with my back.
		So if you get a chance, certainly take a look at the photograph up there.
		38th annual, 38 years here in Toronto, the Harvest Festival.
		That's incredible.
		So there's that announcement.
		Please come on out.
		Let's look around the world very quickly.
		John Walker Lynn and other Al-Qaeda Taliban prisoners told, get this, U.S. interrogators, the September 11th hijackings were supposed to be only the first of three increasingly severe attacks against America.
		Wow.
		So I wonder if they are still to come or if they were squashed in our response to number one.
		I guess we have to wonder about that for a while.
		President Bush's request for authority to use force against Iraq moved forward in Congress Thursday.
		House Committee voted its approval.
		Senate leaders predicting wide margins of bipartisan support, so they're going to give President permission to go forward.
		Hurricane Lilly, thank God, gave Louisiana's coast 100 miles an hour, 90 to 100, they say, by the time it hit shore, but it was 145 when I went to bed.
		Now, there's a very interesting side note on Lilly, which I was watching like a hawk.
		And yesterday, last night on the show, a lady called in, and though George said we're not experimenting with these mass consciousness things at the moment, she did suggest the audience wish the wind to be less.
		And almost miraculously, Lily, by the time it actually got to land, not by the time it went on land, but by the time it got to land, went from a category four down to a category two.
		And if you so wish, you can easily imagine that people did, as that lady suggested, and did a mass concentration effort, or you can call it yet another coincidence.
		Either one would be suitable and okay.
		But it seems like more than a coincidence, doesn't it?
		Five people, five people were gunned down in cold blood, shot in the head, by a skilled shooter in Washington suburbs, actually, Silver Springs.
unidentified		Silver Spring, Maryland.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, the police will always say they're not definitely linked, but when you have five people shot by a sharpshooter, it's, I'd say, a high probability that there's some linkage there.
		I've got a really incredible thing for you coming up right after the break.
		Stay right there.
		This is going to blow you away.
		Now, on this program, you know, we've talked about shadow people in the past.
		If you don't know, shadow people are those that you see out of the corner of your eye when you're not really looking all that hard.
		And it's come to me like a...
		Dear Mr. Bell, it's now 724 Eastern at about 0.39 hours, 3.39 in the morning.
		I had my first experience with what I can only guess was a shadow person.
		I'm still not myself, so please pardon me if I seem a bit shaken.
		I'm a former police officer and corrections officer.
		I currently work as a manager for a private security firm at about 0338 hours.
		I was in the dispatch office shooting the bull with the dispatcher.
		We've got cameras and monitors in the building.
		The dispatcher caught movement from the corner of his eye on a monitor.
		A large black shadow appeared to be on the wall in the area under surveillance.
		The wall is painted a bright green and yellow, and it appears as though someone had sprayed a large black area of the wall.
		We observed the monitor for about two minutes.
		I made no movement.
		I decided I should check it out for possible vandalism.
		Well, as I made my way to the area, the dispatcher had a constant view of the monitor.
		When I turned the corner into this area, I found nothing.
		I immediately radioed my dispatcher, and he just said, it vanished.
		We have it on tape.
		I returned a dispatch and reviewed the tape.
		When the tape was slowed down, this black object appears from the lower right of the screen and appears to attach itself to the wall.
		It remains there for about four minutes.
		As soon as I turn the corner, it slides down the wall and into the floor.
		I secured the tape.
		Mr. Bell, I'm a veteran and former law enforcement officer.
		This thing scared the hell out of me.
		Luckily, I have other eyewitnesses and a tape, and he leaves his phone number, and we're going to get in touch with him so we can get a copy of the tape.
		Or this, I've been debating for two weeks whether to write to you about this.
		I had a shadow person experience about three weeks ago, but I haven't heard anyone mention anything like it.
		I was in bed, just about asleep, in the dim light of the Windows XP icon from my computer, saw a shadow emerge from the door of my closet, sort of head toward me.
		I sleep with my dogs in the room.
		My dog saw, sensed the presence as well, sat up and started barking.
		The shadow just dissipated.
		I know the dogs and humans have, for thousands of years, been connected.
		I wonder if my dogs protect me from shadow people and from ghosts.
		And here, Paul G. in Juliet, Illinois.
		I'm currently reading a book entitled Inside Heaven and Hell by Thomas W. Petrisco.
		On page 64, he's writing about the Venerable Anne Catherine Emmerich, an Augustinian nun who lived in the 1700s.
		She was considered one of the great mystics of her time.
		Here is one excerpt from one of her visions about the fallen spirits.
		Quote, I saw the fall of the angels in my childhood and ever after, day and night I dreaded their influence.
		I thought they must do great harm to the earth because they were always around it.
		It is well that they have not bodies, else they would obscure the light of the sun.
		Quote, we should see them floating around us like shadows.
		We should see them floating around us like shadows.
		Now, at the bottom of the hour, coming out of the bottom of the hour, I'm going to play something for you that, I mean, this was, it was number three to hit me today like a brick.
		It's just unbelievable.
		Somebody sent me, and in fact, somebody is Tom Dorfmeister, sent me this old radio show.
		And I know that a lot of people think that this whole shadow person business was just cooked up on my show.
		You know, that it was just somehow hatched on the program, on my program.
		And it just ain't so, folks.
		It just ain't so.
		So what I'm going to play for you is a radio program, you know, kind of like old-time radio.
		I'm going to play a few minutes of this one anyway.
		We have 24 minutes in total of this program.
		You're not going to believe what the title is.
		The title is The Shadow People from 1952, 9552.
		And when you hear it, if you've ever had the experience of a shadow person, a shadow being, whatever in the hell they are around you, it's going to bring the hair on the back of your neck straight up because you're going to realize very quickly this was by no means concocted on my show.
		It was a phenomena that came to the program inevitably because, number one, it's real.
	Number two, it's been around for as long as we have and probably a lot longer.
	This phenomena, this shadow person phenomena has been around for probably as long as human beings have been around and maybe longer, who knows.
	So I'll play that for you on the other side of the bottom of the hour here.
	At least about eight minutes of it, I think.
	And maybe around Halloween, you're going to like this so much that maybe around Halloween, if all works out, we'll play the entire thing for you the entire 24 minutes.
	I've got it as a downloadable file, but I fear that if I put it up on the website, number one, I will cripple my own website immediately.
	Number two, we'll never get any business done tonight on the website.
	And I do have some business I want to do on the website, so maybe we'll hold it for Halloween or something to post it so you can have a copy yourself.
	Number two tonight is fun photos.
	And I just want to run through these a little bit with you.
	I sent them to Keith just prior to airtime.
	You know, I sort of scrolled them away as they came in during the week.
	And when you go to fun photos, all I can say is, with regard to number one, I'm not going to spoil this for you.
	Number one requires no explanation whatsoever.
	It's obviously real.
	Words are not needed for this.
	In this case, when they say a picture says a thousand words, they mean it or even more.
	Number two is the angriest cat that I've ever seen in my entire life.
	This has got to be one of the funniest photographs anybody has ever taken.
	Obviously taken in a vet's office somewhere.
	Maybe not a vet.
	Maybe a groomer or something.
	Maybe a groomer.
	I don't know.
	But this little cat, well, he looks kind of little in this picture.
	This cat has got an expression on his face.
	Somebody is washing him.
	He's got suds all over him.
	His hair is matted down, so he looks like a little rat.
	It's the only way I can describe it.
	And you can see the water pouring onto this cat.
	Now, when you look in this cat's eyes, once again, this photograph requires absolutely zero explanation except to tell you the expression from the cat, you wouldn't think cats could have expressions, right?
	But clearly this cat has an expression.
	This expression says, if and when I ever get dry and I still have my claws, I'm going to take off all your skin in your sleep.
	I mean, this is the most angry cat that the world has ever had a glimpse of.
	I love cats.
	As you know, we have four cats, and so I dearly love them.
	And this is truly a precious photograph.
	You'll look at this and laugh and laugh and laugh.
	And if you're not a cat person, you'll enjoy it in some other perverted way, I suppose.
	And then the next photograph down alleges that this is a picture of an airplane.
	And the caption from a friend of mine, Bob, says, do not mess around with a woman if her husband owns a chainsaw.
	Pictures of what is left of a Colorado flight instructor's personal aircraft.
	The instructor was having an affair, you see, with a female student, and her husband found out.
	now the husband uh...
	i got hold of the chainsaw that the woman on and he took it to this this guy's airplane i i mean you can see uh...
	It's been shredded into little pieces.
	It still stands, but it's shredded.
	You've never quite seen a photograph like this.
	As I say, I've been swirling these away for you.
	And then finally, the last new one, there are several here, believe me.
	The last new one is of a crocodile, and this has got to be the world's largest crocodile.
	This comes from Chris Trammell, who says, a friend of mine said this to me.
	It was supposedly taking a shell energy site that was being built.
	Not sure if it's real or not.
	Either way, it's huge.
	It clearly is real.
	And wherever it came from, I don't ever in my life want to see anything like it.
	Now, that's clearly real, in my estimation.
	Anyway, you can make your own judgment.
	It is prehistoric.
	Of course, they are prehistoric, aren't they?
	Hangovers from prehistoric times.
	So you want to see that too?
	All of that's on the website tonight.
	All of it.
	At artbell.com.
	Artbell.com.
	Now, the Wesnile virus has been detected for the first time in Washington State.
	I'm sure you'll be all real pleased to hear about that up there.
	It's in a dead raven found in Penn, Oriel County, I guess it is.
	The State Department of Health said all this Wednesday that tests at the National Wildlife Health Center in Madison, Wisconsin confirmed the discovery near Newport in northeastern Washington found during a state-run surveillance program.
	No humans have yet contracted the mosquito-borne infection in Washington.
	Not Washington state, but here is the first sign of West Nile virus in Washington.
	So the number of states now that don't have confirmed West Nile dwindle once again.
	And I think it's my state and maybe one or two others, and maybe that's it.
	Otherwise, West Nile virus is just about everywhere else now.
	Just about everywhere else.
unidentified		So, what can I say?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have to learn to deal with it.
unidentified		It's part of the quickening.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that word is as relevant.
		No, it's more relevant today than the day I wrote that book.
		That word will become increasingly relevant as time goes on until it's so relevant that nobody will be able to think about anything else.
unidentified		Thank you.
		Once upon a time, once when you were live, I remember the time reflected in your eyes.
		I wonder where you...
		Don't you love her, badly?
		And don't you need her badly?
		Don't you love her, faith?
		And tell me what you say.
		Don't you love her, badly?
		Wanna need her day.
		And don't you love her, faith?
		Don't you love her?
		She opened out the door that you did one thousand times before.
		Don't you love her, faith and what you say?
		Don't you love her as she's walking out the door?
		All your love, all your love, all your love, all your love, all your love is wrong.
		To sing a lonely song of a deep-loved dream, seven horses seem to be on the mark.
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		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell on the Premier Radio Network.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Seven horses seem to be on the mark.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The doors have been haunting me.
unidentified		Absolutely haunting me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't get it.
		But it's true.
		Yes.
unidentified		Seven horses seem to be on the market.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's just something about that phrase that grabs me.
		We'll be right back with something that'll grab you.
		Incidentally, a credit where credit is due again with regard to the first photograph at the Prump Harvest Festival is just getting underway.
		What a kick-button event it is.
		The photo of our booth there, which I think is really cool, the face you see, the shiny little face you see inside, is that of Ramona.
		In case you don't recognize her, it's at some distance, but that is indeed her shiny little face, my wife.
		So now, on to business, and boy, are we into some business here.
		A lot of people have written thinking that the Shadow People are something I cooked up on my show.
		Well, the broadcast that you're about to hear in part, that's called The Shadow People, was made in on 9-5, 1952.
		Let's see, I would have been about seven years old when this was made.
		And it's in the public domain now, sent to us by Tom Dorfmeister.
		It's an old radio show, and I suggest you listen to every single word of what you're about to hear and see if it sounds familiar to you.
		Here we go.
unidentified		And now.
unidentified		The Hall of Fantasy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For those with the days, radio.
unidentified		Welcome to the Hall of Fantasy.
		Welcome to the series of radio problems, dedicated to the supercentury, the unusual, and the unsolved.
		Come with me, we go to bed for the world to be unsolved for business.
		Just as a best for the face of science.
		And the supercentury's racist.
		Come with me and save us.
		The shadow people.
		Elena, have you been...
		No, I haven't.
		Ever since Mother died, nothing's happened.
		Well, I only hope...
		Hey!
		Come on.
		I don't know what to say.
		I only hope that...
		We'll see you in a moment.
		There's no light in this room.
		You wait here, Elaine.
		Where's the light?
		Over to your left.
		David.
		What's wrong?
		Why didn't you leave the light on?
		Your father's daddy, Lane.
		Lane.
		In just a moment, the Hall of Fantasy will present the Shadow People.
		And now for our story.
		An original tale of fantasy by Richard Thorne entitled The Shadow People.
		Somewhere along the line of your life, you've met them.
		You have come in contact with the Shadow People.
		When did we first discuss it?
		Oh, yes, Brian and Elaine and I. It was in my apartment.
		There was only one light on in the entire place.
		What's wrong?
		Elaine, what's the matter?
		Well, it's silly, I know, but I've...
		Where?
		Over there, right over there.
		Where are you going, David?
		Over to that archway, just to let you know that nothing's here.
		Hey, you see, Elaine, nothing's wrong, nothing at all.
		Are you satisfied that there's no one else here but us?
		Yes, I...
		Oh, I'm sorry.
		I just thought that I...
		I'm sorry, I thought...
		All right, Elaine.
		Look, what's bothering you, sis?
		Oh, I don't know.
		It's just that.
		I don't know.
		Tell us about it, Elaine.
		Tell us what's bothering you.
		You promise that you...
		Of course not.
		Brian?
		Elaine, I'm your brother.
		If something's troubling you, I'd like to know about it.
		All right, then.
		The reason I was so upset was the fact that I saw someone or something standing in that archway.
		But, Elaine, David showed you that there was no one else in here.
		When the lights were put on, you saw for yourself that we were alone.
		I'm not talking about something you can see in the light, Brian.
		I'm not talking about a human being.
	Then what's it all about, Elaine?
	In darkness, I...
	And I've seen it several times before.
	You sure you're not imagining this, Elaine?
	Oh, I don't have that good an imagination, Brian.
	How long have you seen this thing, Elaine?
	Well, it started about six weeks ago.
	You were in Detroit on business, Brian.
	Mom and dad were on vacation.
	I was in the house by myself, in the library.
	There was only one light on.
	I sat in the chair beneath it, reading.
	Several times, I thought that something was watching me.
	I felt there was someone in the room with me, standing right in back of me.
	Every so often, I'd glance back over my shoulder, but...
	there seemed to be nothing there.
	And then...
	I wasn't sure, but when I heard it again, I got up and I looked all over the house.
	Oh, I'm not easily frightened, you know that, but.
	But out in the hallway, it was almost entirely black.
	Luckily, I was near a light switch.
	I looked back over my shoulder, and I saw this huge, hulking shape for the first time.
	And I heard a voice, or rather the whisper of a voice.
	I couldn't distinguish the words, but that dark shape seemed to be moving towards me.
	My hand was on the light switch, and I turned it on.
	And the minute the light flooded the hallway, the shape was gone.
	There was nothing there.
	I was alone again.
	As long as there's light, I know it can't hurt me.
	I know it can't reach me.
	You might have imagined it, you know.
	Of course, that's possible, but I'm sure I didn't.
	It was so real.
	So real, that shape in the darkness.
	It was the very essence of evil itself.
	There was an old man I knew of, Dr. Hessevius.
	I'd heard that he knew quite a good deal about the supposed supernatural manifestations which had taken place in the world.
	I went to him to see if he knew anything that might explain the events of the story Elaine had told us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It'll help us.
unidentified		Yes, my good sir.
		What do you wish?
		I have an appointment with Dr. Hasilius.
		Oh, yes, if he mentioned something about it, you are Mr. Drake.
		Yes.
		If you'll come inside.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
unidentified		Dr. Helius is in the study.
		Please come with me.
		Doctor?
		A visitor for you?
		Oh, yes.
		Bring him in.
		You may go now?
		Yes, Doctor.
		Mr. Drake?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		Sit down, please, in that chair over there.
		Thank you, sir.
		Now, what is the nature of your visit to me?
		Well, I understand, Dr. Acidius, that you have a great knowledge of the supernatural manifestations which have occurred on the earth.
		Great knowledge, Mr. Drake?
		No, hardly that.
		I have only scratched the surface in my years of study.
		Perhaps I can help you, then again, perhaps I cannot.
		Well, may I tell you the story?
		By all means, my good sir.
		All right.
		Now, this didn't happen to me, doctor, but to my fiancée.
		It seems that about six weeks ago, when she was alone...
		That's the story, sir.
		As much of it as I can remember.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I see.
unidentified		It's a strange tale to tell.
		I'm fully aware of that, Dr. Vesilius.
		You say she seemed to hear whispered voices?
		Yes, that's what she says.
		I see.
		A moment, Mrs. Drake.
		I have a book in my file.
		Oh, yes, here it is.
		This is the one.
		Yes, sir.
		Perhaps I may be able to help you after all.
		Let me see.
		This is a very ancient book, Mr. Drake.
		I seem to remember.
		Yes.
		Here is an account of a happening such as you relate.
		And we shall live on the earth.
		Yes, it has been foretold by the ruler of the darkness.
		They who live by day, retire to sleep by night, shall never know that we walk with them, that we watch them, that we wait for archers.
		Only in the night will they see us, for in the daylight we are not seen.
		Only in the night, when the darkness grows together, and the forms of the shadow people are shaped from the blackness, they will know us, and they will know that we are their companions, for we are the shadow people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that's as much as I choose to play for you right now.
		It's a 24-minute program, but there you have about eight minutes and some odd seconds of it, for we are the shadow people.
		Remember I said, perhaps they've always been here.
		Perhaps they predate even our presence?
		Not from my show, folks, but from another show, a drama that aired 9-5 back in 1952.
		And I know that predates many of you.
		And makes me about seven years old at the time.
		Isn't that incredible?
		Absolutely incredible.
		East of the Rockies, you're on the air.
		Good morning, evening, whatever.
unidentified		Art, hi, how you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm doing okay, sir.
unidentified		Good.
unidentified		This is Rob in Kansas City.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Rob.
		How you doing?
		I see the telephone company has left us with residual hum on our lines.
unidentified		Yeah, well, we're receiving a lot of rain, so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are you?
unidentified		Yep, so it kind of deadens the lines, I guess.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Anyway, a couple of things.
unidentified		Number one, are you ever going to get David Adair back on the air?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, probably, although, as you well know, I've had David Adair on quite frequently.
unidentified		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, David's awesome, but he's told his story now at least twice, if not more.
unidentified		I just want to know if he's going to build another rocket.
		But anyway, regardless of that, I wanted to know, well, I wanted to tell you, a couple of nights ago, speaking of old-time radio, and as far as in reference to Professor Kaku, who you had on a few weeks ago, there was a show on called Dimension X, Old Time Radio.
		Right.
		And basically this show cleared up my thinking or my understanding of relativity.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In what way?
unidentified		Well, Reader's Digest version of the show, this professor perfected miniaturization.
		His son and daughter-in-law were part of a revolution in Germany, 1941, right around World War II, rather.
		And in order to hide his son and daughter-in-law, put them in this capsule, miniaturize them to subatomic levels, they perceived what was, what they obviously understood was an atom with electrons falling around it, or flowing around it, rather.
		And it appeared to be a sun and planets going around them.
		And a couple of minutes later, after the bad guys came in to the professor's home to try and arrest his son and daughter-in-law, resize the capsule.
		All they got was a recording about a civilization 10 million years old.
		And basically what the message said was, the original, the founders of the civilization, I guess his son and daughter-in-law were Alan and Ava.
		That kind of made me think of Adam and Eve.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, indeed.
		All right, well, I appreciate the call, sir.
		That's really interesting, contemplating the nature of it all.
		That's what, of course, Mitchie Kaku and Company do.
		They contemplate the nature of everything that is.
		Well, I see the phone company has left us with a nice little residual hum.
		As you know, we had desperate phone problems last week, and I have never seen so many phone company trucks in my entire life.
		We have had phone company trucks here, more phone company trucks in my area than Domino's has pizza trucks on a busy night.
		You know, I mean, they're everywhere, and still the phone lines have whum.
		Hopefully they'll stay intact, but they obviously have.
		West of the Rockies, you're on the air.
unidentified		Hello.
		Yes, Art.
		This is Brett in Boise, Idaho.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Hi, Brett.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are you?
unidentified		Good.
		I wanted to talk to you a little bit about ghosts.
		Maybe find out how to get a hold of the Ghost Information Society or Investigation Society.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right, GIS people.
unidentified		Yes.
		I've had a couple experiences here in the past six months.
		The most recent was a couple nights ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, the GIS people are EVP, electronic voice phenomena, and they deal with just recording the sounds of those on the other side.
unidentified		Correct.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They don't actually come investigate, per se.
unidentified		Kind of interested in maybe finding out and doing some investigations up here in Idaho.
unidentified		Because I've had a few in my apartment complex and something that happened to me a couple nights ago.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is now October, you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a month for it.
unidentified		Right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What happened to you very briefly?
unidentified		A couple nights ago, I was sound asleep in bed, and my daughter came in to my room and woke me up and said, Daddy, there's someone in my room.
		So I, of course, jumped right up and went in.
		And as soon as I came in the door, there was a boy, about 10, 12 years old, sitting on the bed, facing away from me.
		And as soon as I stepped into the room, he turned and looked at me, and there was just something weird about him.
		He had this sheepish grin on his face.
		Then he opened his mouth, and he just had these teeth that just weren't human teeth.
		And just he stared at me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Holy smokes, sir.
unidentified		Yeah, he stared at me for a couple minutes and then got up and walked right out and left.
unidentified		Scared me to death, scared my daughter to death.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And this person had solidity.
		This person was a good, solid, fleshly form.
		Otherwise.
unidentified		Until he opened his mouth, looked just like a regular boy.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, gotcha.
		Well, I don't know what to tell you, but yes, you need to talk to somebody, that's for sure.
		You need to talk to perhaps somebody in the GIS.
		But you know, it's not exactly their job to investigate hauntings other than to collect any phenomena that may be going on in the electromagnetic realm.
		And they do that, of course, very well indeed.
		Wildcard Line, you're on the air.
		Good morning.
unidentified		How are you doing?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm okay, sir.
		You're on a cell phone.
		And where are you?
		Okay, what's up?
unidentified		I'm 41 now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sir, you're in a bad area.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you can move a little bit, I can hear you, but are you awful echoing stuff?
unidentified		Looks bad.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's a little better.
		That's a little better right there.
		Go ahead.
unidentified		Right here?
		Gotcha.
		Okay.
		When I was 12 years old, we were living in Cocoa Beach right on the beach side.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		And my bed started shaking, and it woke me up.
		And I looked and the door was open to my room.
		And I could see a shadow of a woman standing there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Shadow.
unidentified		And she was dressed like very, very old-fashioned, almost like you'd see in that show, Little House on the Prairie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
unidentified		You know, but it was just, it was all black, though, but I could see the outside person.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Black again.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you think you saw a shadow person, Sarah?
unidentified		Yes, I do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You do, huh?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear that radio drama that I just played?
unidentified		Yes, I did.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that a little surprising in view of what we've discussed on this show and what a lot of people think?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that was 19.
unidentified		Yes.
		Well, I said, Mom, is that you?
		Uh-huh.
		And she didn't say anything, and I was like, Mom, why are you wearing that?
		And all of a sudden, she left.
		And I was having a lot of time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
		Left in what manner?
		You mean just on the other hand?
unidentified		She just kind of moved down the hall and then disappeared.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As in sort of floating down the hall, supposed to walk.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That sounds very good.
unidentified		She didn't walk.
unidentified		She kind of floated away.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was a shadow person, sir.
		I'm sorry, but we're coming up on the top of the hour.
		You encountered a shadow person.
		Don't forget, Harvest Festival, right here in my little town this weekend, Saturday, Sunday.
		I'm Art Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		In my little town, I grew up believing God keeps his eye on the soul.
		And he used to lean upon me as I pledged allegiance to the world.
		Lord, I recall my little town coming home after school, flying my bird.
		Be it sight, sand, smell, or touch, the something inside that we need so much.
		The sight of a touch or the scent of the sand, or the strength of an oak when it roots deep in the ground.
		The wonder of flowers to be covered and then to burst up through tarmac to the sun again.
		Or to fly to the sun without burning a wing, to lie in a meadow and hear the grass sing, to have all these things in our memories all, and they used them to help us to fight.
		Call Art Bell in the Kingdom of Nye from Westonville.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		My guest coming up is Major Ed Deans.
unidentified		Now, what can I tell you about Ed?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed was in the U.S. military's CIA's secret remote viewing project, the one funded by the government, carried on by the government for years, admitted to on Nightline a few years ago, and then all of a sudden the world learned about remote viewing.
		Well, Ed was squarely in the middle of that program.
		As a matter of fact, I have a copy of his service record in connection with that program.
		There's no doubt about it.
		is exactly who he says he is the things You don't predict things with remote viewing.
		You see them, you describe them, you understand them, what's to come, but you don't predict them because they are going to come true.
		Just a matter of when.
		Wait, do we have a lot of topics to hit on tonight?
		It's not one for the children.
		It never is.
		And so I always issue this standard warning, send the kids to bed.
		This is going to be scary stuff.
		Now, you can absorb it as you will as an adult.
		And you can say, what horseradish.
		Or you can choose to believe it based on Ed's record.
		And despite what many claim he has an incredibly good record with regard to so many things that have shown up in the quickening in the years that we've been doing this program, that's some years now.
		So in a moment, Major Ed Dames.
		The world's foremost remote viewing teacher, Edward A. Dames, Major U.S. Army retired, is an original member of the U.S. Army Prototype Remote Viewing Training Program.
		He served as the training, rather, an operations officer for the Defense Intelligence Agency's Psychic Intelligence Collection Unit.
		Currently serves as executive director for the Matrix Intelligence Agency.
		That'd be MIA, wouldn't it?
		A private consulting group.
		Pretty good.
		Ed is a technical consultant for the feature film Suspect Zero.
		He plays the role of an FBI remote viewing instructor in the movie as well.
		So in other words, in a sense, he plays himself.
		Hey, Ed, you're going to be in a movie, huh?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm older, not necessarily wiser, but I did make the silver screen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I am.
		That is so neat, Ed.
		That is so neat.
		How do you feel about it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was a lot of fun.
		And it's fun to do, I'm not going to quit my day job.
		Yeah, I started out as a techno consultant on the film and they had pulled in to play essentially myself in the movie for a short cameo role that I really enjoyed.
		But some big guns, I got to run with the big dogs in the movie.
		Sir Ben Kingsley, Academy Award winner for Gandhi, and most of your listeners know who he is.
		Aaron Eckhart, who played an upcoming star, opens this month as a star of possession and the star of the core in November next month.
		And Carrie-Ann Moss, who starred Chocolatte, and most viewers know her as the very hot dish in the Matrix.
		So I had to train the cast, write some lines, and help out the producer Jonathan Sanger, who produced Elephant Man.
		But most of all, I enjoyed working with the director and training him, Elias Marich.
		He was the director for Shadow of the Vampire.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When might we all be able to see this?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Next year it'll touch the silver screen, huh?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It will.
		And I have to thank the executive director, Michael Ryan, for coaching myself in my cameo appearance.
		Because without that, they would have used up a lot of tape, a lot of digital memory.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I hear that.
		I sure hear that.
		I've been in a few TV series, and oh, my God, I thought I was going to drive those poor people to madness.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, one of us was there can only be one that came out of the room, and I think it was me.
		Poor Michael was pretty beaten up.
		But he did a great job coaching myself.
		This is the first time that remote viewing, the term, and the semblance of it is actually featured in a feature film.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's high time, I'll say that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		High time.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Sir Ben Kingsley's role was looked at by Tom Cruise, by Ben Affleck, by Sylvester Salone over the years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, Ben Kingsley is perfect.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Wait till you see him.
		He is an incredible actor.
		It was just one of the highlights of my career to be able to train and work with him.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, congratulations.
unidentified		Thank you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This marks, what, your seventh year, seven years now on this program with me.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It does indeed.
		Seven years on Coast to Coast this month.
		Seven years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And it would be fair, I suppose, to look back on your record, and we could do that.
		But so many things that you have, over the years, said have come to pass, from the frogs to the ozone to, God, just to even sit down and go through them all.
		The people who are not threatened by you, and there's quite a few of those, and don't want to get angry at you, they know what your hits are.
		I guess we'll call them hits.
		That sounds like something you'd attribute to a psychic, and it's not the same, is it?
		Remote viewing is not a psychic hit, is it?
		Or in a way it is, but not quite the same, eh?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
		It avails itself of this innate faculty that all of us have and that I and my colleagues teach.
		But it is not, it's very systematic, very rigorous.
		I'm hitting the road in the western part of the United States in the first quarter of next year to teach with my colleagues workshops in Portland and San Diego and San Francisco, Albuquerque, Seattle, Phoenix, Denver, Dallas, Fort Worth.
		So that one-on-one instruction and people will get to see what this is and what it is.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're hitting the road, as it were.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I am.
		I am.
		I've decided to break away from some of my institutional-level courses, the professional vocational courses, and take the workshops away from the remote viewing campus in El Segundo Research Park in California.
		And there's such a demand for training.
		And although the numbers of trainees will never be as many as we would want, because you can't provide one-on-one instruction in a workshop environment with more than 40 or 50 people, we're going to do it anyway.
		We're going to hit the road.
		Because what we teach people in a weekend workshop, they can teach others in return.
		Everything that they learn in the workshop, they can teach others.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Did you happen to hear the first hour of the program by any chance?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I didn't because my team members were sending me information on the next designated terrorist attack in the United States, and I was analyzing that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We're going hot heavy on that project.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're going to release that tonight?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you a little bit about it, yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I will.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		The reason I asked, though, about the first hour was I got hold of this radio broadcast, and somebody sent it in from 1952.
		It was an old radio drama called The Shadow People.
		And I'll be damned if they didn't nail it right on the head.
		A lot of people thought I made that up on my program, and I didn't.
		It caught fire here, but it's been around for a long, long time, obviously.
		This was in 52.
		Heck, I was seven years old.
		And it describes to a T this incredible shadow prison phenomena that's been so big on this program for so long now.
		And I mean, it just flat nails it.
		So it obviously did not begin on this program.
		The shadow people apparently have been around for as long as we've been here to talk of them.
		And you once took on as a remote viewing job, viewing what we call these shadow people.
		And you want to remind us all what you said they were?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I will, if you'd like.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would like, yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Based upon a nice quick research project that the IMI team members did, the shadow people, it appears that they are a literal shadow of a ghost.
		There's a ghost that comes between a light source and a surface.
		And what happens is what you're looking at, the eye cannot pick up the ghost itself.
		The ghost bends light.
		There's something there that actually gets in the way.
		there's an interference pattern now when you say uh...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		bends light Do you mean interference as in, right now I have a shadow.
		I'm not bending light, though.
		I am casting a shadow of light.
		Do you mean actually bending light as in a black hole's geomagnetic disturbance of light?
		Or do you mean as in just a normal shadow?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A normal shadow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A normal shadow.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So this is a normal shadow of a ghost.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but think of a plasma, a very light diaphanous plasma that would be in your room that the eye would not detect, although one of the artifacts of the presence of a ghost Is this light presence, a light form that a dog or some birds can pick up?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Because the signature is in the long wave ultraviolet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you've listened.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Animals recognize them right away.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, an animal will pick a dog, for instance.
		As I had mentioned before, if you're sitting alone one night by the fireplace and your dog or your cat all of a sudden looks up and tracks something across the room and you might say, what the heck was that?
		The dog will put its head back down.
		Some animals can see into the ultraviolet.
		Humans can't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you just shake your head and you go, you know, what is that dope seeing?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		but they are seeing something and it's beyond our spectrum it there's been a shape Very, very light.
		And yet, think of it as a balloon, a clear balloon.
		If I took a transparent balloon and put it in the middle of your room, okay, no strings attached, you would probably not notice it at all.
		Even its outline.
		Okay?
		Even if I shone a light through it, you probably would not see it.
		And yet, it would cast a big shadow against the wall behind you.
		Okay?
		Now, your dog may be looking at the shadow as well, not just the presence of this form.
		But when ghosts do that, and what we can see very, very clearly, in fact, in the case of the balloon, which is a good example to use, you do see a very large shadow on the wall moving, but you can't see that balloon in front of you because it's so clear.
		And yet, it blocks some light and so casts the shadow.
		That's what shadow people, the so-called shadow people, are.
		They're shadows of ghosts.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What is it, Ed, that's letting us get more of a glimpse of them, in some cases even a solid look at them, than once was possible.
		I mean, this was not as big.
		This is much bigger than it once was.
		And so something is changing in us or in our environment or something that's letting us.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I would not necessarily agree with you.
		I think there's just more people.
		Their population levels are very much higher now.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's certainly.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Your show has, I mean, who talks about shadow people outside of your show?
		Nobody.
		No, really, no one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, unless you count this program I played tonight.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 1952 and the coming gone.
		But when you put a lot of emphasis on it, people start saying they will report their experiences.
		So it appears because of this venue at hand that there's a lot more interest.
		And also, you know, ghosts are being picked up now because we have instruments that can now pick up their presence.
		So not only are people reporting the shadow of a ghost, but cameras, especially charged couple devices, are picking up this form because the camera is much more sensitive than the eye.
		And then you see ghosts walking back and forth down, of course, grocery store aisles or looking for the car that they just crashed and died and those kinds of things that we've seen.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much in your years of remote viewing have you figured out about what happens to us, Ed, when we die?
		How much do you know?
		I mean, classic heaven, classic hell, nothing like we imagine it all, a continuation, no continuation.
		Worms crawl in, worms crawl out.
		I mean, what have you found out?
unidentified		Well, the worms crawl in, crawl out of the old body.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure, yeah, the body.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But us are.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		When the brain is dead, your thinking mechanism is gone.
		But the spiritual and the soul aspect, there is a continuity of nothing.
		In other words, you don't take your thinking mechanism because the brain needs that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then in one sense, it's the big sleep.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But only in some ways, as we view them here on Earth, huh?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we do, as remote viewers, pick up other worlds where there are forms of, but people are not necessarily alien entities.
		We get the idea that these are folks that are reinstalled in new bodies, but we can't be sure because there's no continuity.
		There's no chain of custody between you mean a reincarnated soul?
		Something like that.
		Something like that.
		But we can't be sure.
		And so the short answer to your question is nothing.
		I don't know anything more than what I knew before.
		I'm sure it'll become clearer when I die.
		But right now, I just use this tool for stuff down here where the rubber meets the road.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it'll become clear to you when you die, but you can't tell us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And if you can, be sure to call my show.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, that's a good segue then, I suppose, to UFOs.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Now, Art, you have to realize that my profession, my current profession, I deal with a powerful mind tool, very powerful mind tool.
		Once the brain decays, that tool doesn't work anymore.
		We're dealing with something that deals with the brain, that organic computer up there in our noggin.
		It has nothing to do with spirituality.
		Nothing.
		It's a different thing.
		That's a different topic art.
		That's a different part of us.
		I explained this to Malachi Martin when he was alive on your show.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I remember, yes.
		Of course.
		It's a good segue to UFOs.
		I mean, you just sort of mentioned the possibility of alien presence in a way a moment ago.
		Oh, God.
		We see hundreds of thousands, millions of sightings of these UFOs.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		In all different forms and varieties and species.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, cigars and round ones and square ones and bumpy ones and bubbled ones.
		And we see all these flying things that are not conventional.
		Clearly can't be from Earth.
		We've got all these stories of abductions and all the rest of it.
		This has to be something that you've looked at over the years, one way or the other.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, even the military, when I was the operations officer and training officer for the military team, these targets in constantly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You slipped them in.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't just me.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There were many scientists that came in, and we were sort of the prostitutes of the intelligence community.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're lucky that they bust you down to lieutenant.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, nobody wanted to deal with us openly, but they sure wanted to meet us after hours and slip us these kind of targets.
		Hey, Ed, what happened over here?
		What happened over here?
		What happened to this ship?
		What was this glowing object above one of our nuclear submarines?
		All the time.
		And so it was great.
		It was fun to do that rather than look inside yet another Soviet secret installation and describe what was there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That, of course, was your major work.
		I mean, you were doing intel work and finding gas canisters.
		They did.
		They found a gas canister, by the way, in Iraq.
		One of the things they did do in the military very accurately described as specific gas canister, nasty gas canister, and its whereabouts.
		And that was then confirmed in the war.
		So that's the man you're listening to tonight.
		And again, I want to caution you, and I really mean this, take away the children from this program because you're going to be hearing a lot of very disturbing things as the night progresses.
		My guest is Major Ed Bames, the world's foremost remote viewing teacher.
		I'm Art Bell.
		This is Coast to Coast AM.
unidentified		This is Coast to Coast AM.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		Major Ed Dames, more about remote viewing and UFOs in a moment.
		Once again, Major Ed Dames, subject to UFOs, everywhere, every shape, every form, been going on for as long as people have been looking at the sky.
		Some, obviously, oh, they can be explained away.
		Some are probably military test flights, but not all of them, Ed.
		There's something going on.
		Clearly, I mean, something is going on.
		And we all wonder, are we being observed?
		Are we.
		What?
		What are you of hosts?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to tell you.
		And it's an answer that nobody else has given you before.
		And it will surprise you.
		Before I do that, though, I forgot to tell you something last half hour.
		May I mention that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, of course.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The sci-fi channel has resurrected the old show In Search of, the one that spawned all the paranormal programs.
		Oh, yes.
		And it begins, a new series begins next Friday, 10 p.m. on Friday nights.
		And in November, you'll see one of the shows features remote viewing.
		And myself and Aaron Donahue, my current top gun, will be remote viewing in the classroom.
		What that actually looks like.
		You'll see that on the sci-fi channel.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely excellent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll be looking for it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Mitch Peleggi of X-Files, the Skinner in X-Files, is the host for that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		All right, Ed.
		All over the media, you are.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We're doing some good things, though.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		UFOs, Ed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, you ready?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm ready.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay, yeah.
		It's been seven years, and we've talked a lot about this, but it's taken a long time, a long time to really get behind this conundrum and take a look at what is generating these enigmas.
		They're all very different.
		They change from year to year.
		Remember, the first original flying saucers are gone now.
		Now we've got these big triangular craft.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely, yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And we've got all kinds of other things, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're all projections, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're all projections.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		They're very real.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Projections.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		They're solid, but they're temporary.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Solid but temporary.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And there's a projection booth out there that's just like the Wizard of Oz.
		And instead of projecting images, what it's doing, think of a scalar wave or think of a projector that instead of just projecting an image, can project a format, a template of anything it wants, and then gather up whatever material is at a remote site, let's say nitrogen, oxygen, or carbon present in our atmosphere, coagulate it, coalesce it into the form of whatever it chooses.
		Okay?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, but that's like, that means we're like living in the matrix in a way.
		All right.
		Let me ask this.
		What entity or life form is projecting these images?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You Said something that doesn't exist.
		It's not an entity or a life form.
		Remember, SETI?
		SETI is the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		I interviewed that.
		I was ahead of SETI all the time.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but that's not equal to SETIL, the search for extraterrestrial intelligent life.
		There's intelligence out there.
		It runs the projection booth, alright?
		It's in our neighborhood, but it's not living.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's okay.
		Well, not living in the sense that we are alive, but nevertheless, it represents a.
		It must represent some sort of something that we regard as a consciousness because it's taking actions.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, not a life thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Then explain it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I don't get it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's a machine.
		It's a group of sentient machines.
		The entire system is automated, but very smart.
		Extremely smart.
		But they're all machines.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There are machines.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There are machines.
		They are terrestrial intelligence, and they are very intelligent.
		And they can interact.
		They're very intelligent, but they are not life forms.
		And they are not necessarily conscious in terms of how we would apply consciousness.
		But they're very smart.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So the projection.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to grasp this.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We'll get back up and cover it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are these machines that have been manufactured by others?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we usually think of machines as being manufactured by us, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, they belong to life forms, but the life forms aren't really here too often.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Maybe every million years or so, they stop in.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So they're like drones then.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Very much so, yes.
		But think of them as very intelligent drones.
		Very, very intelligent.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And do you have any idea of the purpose behind these projections?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A little bit.
		We're working on the agenda now.
		Before we work on contact, we'd like to know what the agenda is, but we're gaining some insight.
		It took us a long, long time to get behind what were the triangular craft.
		What are these kinds of things?
unidentified		Even some of the Bigfoots.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Bigfoot might fall right squarely in that category.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, it does.
		It's also a projection.
		It has temporary mass.
		That's why you can create an imprint and you can see it running.
		But once this projector is turned off, the tool or the image disintegrates.
		These objects are very real in terms of mass.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Couldn't the motivation for this be preparation, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
		No, it's more like a conundrum.
		It's like the Wizard of Oz playing with us.
		They're toying with us.
		They're playing with us.
		But more than that, the entire phenomenon, and now I'm going to lump everything into this as a phenomenon.
		Bigfoot, the chupa crappers, the triangular craft.
		The entire thing is presented as a conundrum, a puzzle to be solved.
		It always changes to keep the viewer interest up.
		Novelty acts as a stimulus.
		It's well known in psychology.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it does that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's well known in Hollywood and on Madison Advanced II.
		And so it always changes if the system out there keeps projecting flying saucers decade after decade, no one will pay any attention anymore.
		So it changes, shape-shifts.
		The agenda, it's offered up as a problem to be solved.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And the prize at the end of the rainbow?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Probably contact, but I'm not sure yet.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Probably contact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So a puzzle to be solved, a projection by machines created by intelligence.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		With the prize, perhaps, at the end, contact.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Possibly, although we're not certain about that yet.
		I just want to backtrack a moment and go over the mechanism itself.
		Crop circles.
		Okay, so the projection booth projects a tool.
		The tool, in this case, is a spherical thing that forms the crop circle.
		After the crop circle is formed, the projector is turned off and the tool disintegrates.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's straighten out one aspect of this.
		You say the projector is turned off, but we've got to define projector because the way you're defining projector, not only is there an image projected, but there is a solidity.
		There is a real aspect to what is being projected because it can perform physical things in this world and then, poof, be gone, like Bigfoot so many times, like the objects that create the crop circles.
		I mean, in all these years, surely we would have caught and jailed people for destroying these farmers' fields at least once, Ed, but we haven't.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the projector's not projecting an image.
		It is not projecting an image.
		It's creating tools and objects at a distance.
		It's action at a distance.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And that is creation in one of its truest forms, huh?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's just, no, it's just technology art.
		You grab whatever is present in terms of material and you make something with it.
		In this case, it's nitrogen, carbon, and oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere.
		The stuff is gathered up, put together, solidified like you would, like, think of solid oxygen or solid nitrogen.
		We have to freeze it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If I could give you a television that worked and let you haul it back to the 1800s, they'd have burned you at the stake.
		It would be magic.
		And so maybe there's an analogy there.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'll give you a more recent analogy, and that is when projector, movie projectors in the 1920s were taken to Africa, and the pygmies were shown, and this was projected on the forest, not the canopy, but the background of the forest.
		Pygmies were shown black and white moving pictures, and they panicked.
		They threw spears at them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Who the hell did that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, anthropologists, you know, who just wanted some entertainment, I guess.
		But it's just true stories.
		So that's us.
		We look up and we call it a craft or a mothership today and then something else tomorrow.
		And it's real.
		It's temporary.
		It's solid.
		It blocks out the stars as it passes over.
		But in fact, in somebody's so-called craft, once the thing is created in the Earth's atmosphere at whatever altitude, it could just hover there, be fixed there, and the Earth can rotate underneath it, and that would make it look like the craft is moving from east to west or whatever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's wild.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it's true, and that's what it is.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And the projection booth is on Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Mars.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God, Mars.
		Okay, we have to talk about Mars a little bit.
		Richard Hoagland has, from recent images taken by spacecraft that have recently arrived on Mars, he's come up with some photographs that just flat knock your socks off.
		And what they appear to show, Ed, is a city, I mean, something like Los Angeles laid out underneath Mars.
		It comes in and is detected in the IR, the infrared photography that's being done by this satellite.
		And, you know, you could say, oh, tampered photographs are, you know, somebody's putting something over on them.
		But unfortunately, you see, they went back to a Russian probe that took the same type of photograph some number of years ago and looked at the same area.
		And by God, it's the same, Ed.
		It looks like L.A. down there.
		And so you just said Mars, and that brought that to mind.
		It's like there was once some great civilization there.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There was.
		There was a great civilization.
		I have not seen those photos, by the way, but we know from our work and our techniques and methods that there indeed was a great civilization.
		And it's at the acme, before the planet lost its atmosphere, at the acme of the civilization, at least the last one, they very much looked like the Mayan people today, only they were taller.
		If you think of the way a Mayan looks and then you stretch them out and make them taller, that's the physiognomy, the way that the people look.
		There appeared to be three races on the planet, and the most populous race looks very much like the Mayans do today.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you have any sense of how developed their civilization really was?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yeah.
		I spent a lot of time in the military unit looking at that.
		They had edged weapons.
		They had, they were not, no, what we would call advanced technology in terms of, you know, Advances relative, of course, in terms of 21st century technology.
		A lot of very artistic designs, sort of like the Egyptians today.
		The Egyptians were when their civilization met its demise.
		Like that.
		Like that.
		What we know as professional remote viewers is that there is an artificial pyramid situated in a notch, in a crater in the Sidonia region.
		One of the craters in Sidonia has a notch in it, and in that notch is a pyramidal feature.
		And that is definitely artificial with underground components.
		But that is not where this so-called projection booth is.
		The projection booth is somewhere else.
		Subterranean Mars.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, you've talked in past years about subterranean Mars.
		You've said that there was life stirring under the surface of Mars or something very much like that.
		And that, if I recall correctly, you said then it's machines.
		Isn't that what you said?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There's something else under there that we can't quite fathom.
		But I said something is waking up under there.
		And now I know machines are waking up.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Something is waking up.
		You said that.
		Something is waking up.
		That's what it was.
		I'm sorry.
		And do you have any update to that?
		I mean.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, my team is more interested because we're capacity constrained in terms of our resources.
		We're much more interested in actually establishing contact with this intelligence to see if it is even allowed.
		We think that it is because we honestly believe that all of this Wizard of Oz phantasmagorical stuff that is being projected onto this planet is meant to be looked at as a puzzle to be solved.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then the Wizard is on Mars?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The Wizard for all intents and purposes is on Mars, and it looks like it's a machine and not a life form.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Mars.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's a system art.
		And we think, based upon preliminary work, that by solving this puzzle and contacting the machine, that the machine contacts its creator, which is a life form.
		That's what we think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's incredible.
		All right.
		Well, the moment you know more on the subject, obviously you will get it to us immediately, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Not necessarily.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		If you're being honest.
		Who would get the information before we would?
		I mean, other than your organization.
		Can you say that?
		No, you can't say that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		There was, you know, in the past, we had a very prominent person sponsor and pay for a contact team to attempt to establish communications, let's say, with the system.
		I was honored to be the team chief and the operations officer for that.
		And the team was made up of some of this country's most prominent scientists and best physicists and engineers.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let me ask this question.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you say you were commissioned to do it, that means you were paid to do it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We were paid.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then the information that comes as a result of something like this goes and is controlled by the person who paid for it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is that fair or unfair?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		In the past, there was a contract, and since it was proprietary, and I can't talk a lot about it, it failed.
		It validated the existence of a particular phenomenon, but it failed in contact.
		And this time, I'm paying for the project, and so I can talk about it as much as I want.
		That was a lesson learned for me.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, if you were to be paid by somebody, and then your canon of ethics would prohibit you from disclosing something that would literally shake the known universe and everything we think, that would be a pretty big ethical dilemma for you, wouldn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, here you have this information that all of mankind should have, but you just did it under contract to somebody and your lips are sealed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That was the case.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I won't be faced with that ethical dilemma or ethical dilemma of that nature.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you were.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I was, yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		You must have done some few sleepless nights over that one.
		I mean, having that kind of information and then not being able to talk with it, do you have any idea what your client did with it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		They didn't do a lot with it.
		Like I say, it was not completely successful.
		All it did was validate some it validated for the scientist involved the existence of an extraterrestrial phenomenon.
		That's all that it did.
		It did not eventuate in contact.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's still pretty big stuff.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I agree.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so, as you now go further with it, you're paying for this project out of your own pocket.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I am.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you do that with a lot of what you and I call fun projects?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You want to know the truth?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I will tell you the truth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Of course, I want to know the truth.
unidentified		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I trained a couple of my advanced students, one of them is my top gun, to win the lotteries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now you're talking.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		To win the lotteries.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And this is unsavory for me to talk about because I like to talk about the way that we use remote viewing for health benefits and dissolve these sort of restrictions.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No problem, Ed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just whisper it in my ear here.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		So one of these individuals went on to win a lot of money.
		And I mean a whole lot of money.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Millions of dollars?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A lot of money.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		More than you would imagine using.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's always said, Ed, if remote viewing is real, then why not go after the numbers?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're saying you did.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, my students did, because I'm not interested.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're not interested.
		Ed, hold on.
		We're at the top of the hour.
		So he did it, huh?
		I knew, I knew somebody did it.
		I'm Arto.
		This is Coast to Coast AF.
unidentified		I've been where the eagle flies, rode his wings across all the skies.
		Kissed the sun, touched the moon.
		But he left me much too soon.
		His lady girl, he left his lady girl.
		Ladybird, come on down.
		I'm here waiting on the ground.
		Lady Bird, I'll treat you good.
		Ah, Lady Bird, I wish you would, you Lady Bird.
		Ain't got no trouble in my life.
		No foolish dreams to make me cry.
		I'm never frightened or worried.
		I know I always get by.
		I hear I'm cool now.
		Something gets in my way overwhelming.
		Don't let life get me down.
		Don't I take it the way that I found it?
		I got music in me.
		Yeah.
		I got music in me.
		Yeah.
		They say that life is a circle.
		Circle.
		I've been in the way that I found it.
		Gonna move in a straight line.
		Ooh.
		Keeping my peace.
		Love me on the ground.
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		Woohoo!
art bell ▲ ● ▼		RJ in Fontana, California, passed blast me something that made me right then on the money.
		Ed was talking about those machines that are not exactly alive, but produce projections, manifestations of things that are not quite alive, but do take material form, right?
		I think I've got that about right.
		RJ says, Art, doesn't this sound all like Ed is describing the machine that Krell built under the surface in the movie Forbidden Planet?
unidentified		Did it do exactly that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		wasn't it in energy source that in some senses was alive that projected things that had for a time substance could bend metal and killed people and yet We'll be right back.
		Once again, here's Major Ed Danes.
		Ed, that was pretty good, I thought.
		R.J. from Fontana, California, I thought, really hit it pretty well.
		I don't know if you ever saw Forbidden Planet, did you?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A long time ago, but wasn't that, wasn't he referring to the creature from the id?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that a good idea?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It was the creature from the id.
		In other words, the man who had stumbled upon this machine on Planet X, his mind created these projections that took form and were able to do physical things.
		I mean, the net result was pretty doggone close in some ways to what you were talking about.
		The capability of these machines would be.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps, but all I remember about the movie, and I was just a boy, when I saw it was a creature from the Inn, and it was invisible.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And it was doing some serious damage.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was visible when they hit it with their ray guns.
		i think but because they've also metal as it went up the steps of the uh...
		I mean, so you've had somebody who has hit the lottery, and you said that you weren't somehow this didn't appeal to you personally.
		You know, that's pretty hard to believe.
		I mean, winning since when would say winning $100 million or something not appeal to somebody?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Not everybody's the same, Art.
		We all have different interests.
		We're different.
		You know, what you may view as success is different than what someone else may view as success.
		And there's price to be paid for that.
		For instance, my top gun, Aaron Donney, who has succeeded extraordinarily well in a lottery.
		I taught him how to win basic lotteries, and he went on to do some big ones.
		And yet, that cost him a lot of time.
		He spent six months to a year perfecting the methods.
		My students, once they graduate as professionals, can go off and research anything they want.
		And that's what he chose to do.
		And while he was doing that, I was having fun in other arenas.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but if there are people out there, your learned students, who are pursuing lottery numbers, then doesn't that somewhat reduce the chances for the rest of us when we go lay our money on the table for the tickets?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You bet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wasn't that sort of an unfair advantage?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I would say so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I would say so.
		So, I mean, I don't teach ethics.
		I talk about ethics, but I don't teach it.
		It's not part of the course.
		If I teach you how to use a gun or drive a car, ethics is not part of that course.
		It's just learning how to use the tool.
		That's what I teach.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you're like the gun manufacturers, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		In that case, not.
		Poor analogy.
		I'm a flight instructor.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not that valuable.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I am a flight instructor.
		However you choose to arm your aircraft with a camera or a gun, that's up to you.
		I love to fly.
		I love to teach flying.
		How you use it is up to you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are some flight instructors that taught the people who plowed the airplanes into the buildings how to fly.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Unwittingly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Unwittingly.
		Absolutely.
		Of course.
		Yeah, of course.
		But I mean, it is like the guns in a sense, because the guns don't do the damage.
		The guns don't kill a soul.
		It's the people behind them, as the old saying goes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		How's your clock doing that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How's my clock doing?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Why do you ask?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I just wondered if you need it to be sped up or slowed down or.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Ed.
unidentified		Look.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I screw up my brakes enough as it is.
		I don't need anybody messing with my clock.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Did it come back to real time?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it did, Ed.
		It came back to real time.
		It's on real time now.
		And please leave it that way.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay, you want to see something neat?
		Pick an affiliate that you're not particularly interested in that goes off the air, and I'll show you something really neat.
		Just kidding.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Pick an affiliate that you mean you would put it off the air, is that what you're saying?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Not just me, all of your listeners and me.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I would just direct their attention to a particular part, a magnetic device in a preamp or something like that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And blow up something.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, no, we would just.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		As a professional broadcaster, Ed, I've got to tell you, that sucks.
		They blow up on their own frequently enough, and my fellow broadcasters out there won't attest to that.
		We don't need to do that.
		However, since you bring this up, I've done, as you I think you're aware, I've done a pretty big series of mass consciousness experiments that were frighteningly successful.
		A lady, when George was doing the program last night, called in the first hour of the program, and even though George said we don't do these sorts of things, we're being very careful.
		George is following my example.
		Bless his little heart.
		The lady said, let's have everybody concentrate on reducing the winds in this hurricane before it gets to land.
		Now, I watched this hurricane develop all day yesterday, mile by mile by mile.
		In fact, it went from 140 to 145 mile-an-hour hurricane and quickly climbed to a category four.
		And by God, by the time it got to the edge of land, Ed, the edge of land, it was a category, it had gone down to a category two with 90 to 100 mile-an-hour winds, and quickly now, of course, dissipated into nothing more than a tropical depression.
		And I can't say that there was a mass consciousness directed that did that, but I'm more than likely to say that and more than likely to believe it than not.
		Now, isn't that what you just suggested you were about to direct against some affiliate out there?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Actually, no, our research, our PK, our psychokinesis work, is looking at only material, what material is most affected by coherent consciousness, as a group coherent consciousness.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The Chinese are making great strides in this area, great strides.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are they?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, they are.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Has some serious ramifications in terms of defense.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are they using it against our better interests?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Not yet.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Do you believe they will?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So Mind Wars is out there.
unidentified		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Mine wars will be out there in the future.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A real thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of our best interests, on the news that I heard, they were just talking about insurance against terrorism.
		Now, I suppose that actually might be a profitable thing for the insurance companies to do, probably better than hurricanes all the way around, because it is more rare.
		However, Americans in their present state of mind might be very inclined to buy insurance against terrorism because we all know something else is going to happen.
		Something else is going to happen.
		And you came on this program, Ed, and you told us about a target.
		I directed my audience to go to your website because I didn't want to put it on the air.
		It was a nuclear reactor, and you said there were a group of men in a vehicle on the way to that nuclear reactor.
		And I'd like to note right here that there was a story about two or three weeks ago, Ed, that confirmed everything you said that said that before they considered what they did with regard To the disaster in New York, they had a carefully drawn-out plan to destroy one of our nuclear reactors.
		You hear that story?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think I did, yeah.
		We're looking at another team, though.
		We're looking at a team that's still on the loose, and their target is they are planning an assassination, and that's what we're working on even tonight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		An assassination?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No individual.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You know, this would have seemed so preposterous not long ago, but we all know they just caught a cell, I think, in Buffalo, wasn't it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's not the cell we're looking for.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
		I'm just saying that even the concept of cells being out there with sneapers that are going to do these terrible things would have seemed somewhat preposterous some time ago, and now not.
		Now I think we mostly believe it's true.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Actually, what we're describing is a team that did not get a chance to complete their mission at 9-11.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		This is the team that is now planning an assassination.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Look at the news tonight.
		I mean, here it is.
		John Walker Lynn and other Al-Qaeda and Telemountain prisoners just told U.S. interrogators that September 11 hijackings were supposed to be the first of three increasingly severe attacks against America.
		So that would mean there would be other cells out there, if this is true, that had increasingly disastrous plans for us.
		And you're saying they're still out there.
		Some of them are still out there.
		Any idea what they're doing, what they're going to do, what they want to do, whether they'll get it done?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if they'll get it done, but we have two targets.
		The other one I don't want to talk about, but one is definitely an assassination.
		And what we're trying to do now is identify the individual who is the target, and it is a male.
		The individual is the target.
		And let him know that he may not necessarily be a dead man walking, but he's in danger.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed, you don't want to tell him he's a dead man walking.
		When you remote view something, like terrorists on the way to a nuclear plant to blow something up, or you remote view somebody's assassination or the plans to assassinate somebody, are you very clear on the fact that you can intervene by,
		for example, coming on this radio program or making something so public that it disturbs the ripple of what otherwise is going to be, or once you have viewed it, is there a sort of an absolute point where nothing is going to change it?
		That's a very interesting question.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there is an absolute point.
		This isn't always the case where let's back up just for a moment or slow down.
		Geophysical events are fait accomplis as far as remote viewing is concerned.
unidentified		We always describe that kind of thing.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		They're so big.
		Even the prophets, the biblical, the biblical prophets could see earth change type of things 2,500 years in the past.
		When if we were to remote view the winner of the next Super Bowl game or the winner of the next presidential election, we might not be able to, from our vantage point in time, in linear time, this event may not be on the horizon yet in terms where we can coherently describe it.
		And so we know we have to move forward in time more before it pops into view.
		In terms of, let's say, the subject at hand, a foreign terrorist target in the United States.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Assassination, yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		We're looking at what the foreign terrorists, which We have at least one cell that we're tracking.
		What is or what are their targets?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		This is where we put our money on.
		And I won't tell you why we're not going after the terrorists themselves, because it would give something away to terrorists that we don't want to talk about.
		It would give them an advantage.
		But we can look at their targets very, very easily.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		When you make public one of their targets, does that change the net result?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We hope so.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We think that it may have been the case in one specific instance, and that is in the case of a Central Californian target and perhaps a Northern California target.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A nuclear plant.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		One was a nuclear plant, one was a dam.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so making it public just prior to its occurrence, something like that or of that scale, you can change the outcome.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But of some major event like, I don't know, it's problematic, but let's actually talk about what happened when I placed the heat on the sink in a nuclear reactor on the coast.
		This is what happened.
		I said to all the Sheriff Department, the security forces, the FBI, everybody that was involved with the security and the safe operation of that plant, you're looking the wrong way.
		Do not look up and do not look at the road that comes into your plant.
		Look at the sea.
		They're going to come in at night from the sea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and they're going to come in and take out your cooling gate.
		A sapper charge is going to be used against the cooling system.
		The sea is both the primary and the tertiary cooling system for the plant.
		It will shut it down.
		That indeed resulted in them looking toward the sea and possibly frustrating the fact.
		Well, who knows?
		I don't really care.
		I think I did my job.
		Now what's next?
		While these folks are still on the loose, Excuse me?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I thought you just said assassination is next.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, an assassination and one other target that I don't want to talk about.
		But the point is, if I tell, if my team goes to the individual after we establish who that individual is, it will take a few more days, go to the individual directly and indirectly, and say your life is threatened by an al-Qaeda cell.
		That may or may not result in anything.
unidentified		Okay?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But the responsibility is there because there isn't any other method or technique that can see what they're doing outside of what we're doing here.
		Otherwise, the FBI and other federal agencies would have rolled these people up.
		They can't find them.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I suppose it would depend on what the individual who received the message would do about it, if anything.
		And if nothing, then probably it would come off as planned.
		And if something, then, of course, we'd never know because that person wouldn't be around to tell us that, gee, they should have listened to that group that called them, you know, about this assassination attempt.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, correct.
		Or one of the protection agencies.
		let's say the individual is a government official, then an agency would...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Whenever we get into this area, I get visits from the Secret Service, and they're nice guys, but I don't want to have them knock on my door again.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, I didn't mention that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know you didn't.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
unidentified		But you began going to government.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's a natural place to go because it's going to be a natural target, of course, for terrorists.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Possibly.
		But where do they think they can do the most psychological damage?
		And then it may not be a government official.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is surely psychological damage they're doing, as the name would imply.
		They are terrorists.
		Hold on, Ed.
		We're at the bottom of the art.
		We'll be right back.
		So much, we've got a lot of territory to cover.
		In a moment, I want to talk about chemtrails.
		He's put that down as something he'll talk about tonight.
unidentified		net games has never talked about chemtrails before Take him by the wind.
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		Will you ever win?
		All the times have come.
		Here but now they're gone.
		Seasons don't feel the recur.
		Nor do the wind and the sun and the rain.
		We can be like this.
		Come on, baby.
		Don't feel the creeper.
		Baby, take my hand.
		Don't feel the creeper.
		We'll be able to fly.
		Now I'm here to creeper.
		Baby, I'm your man.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It certainly is, and this is an appropriate song in that the material that we're about to move into, I have a feeling, is clearly the Get the Kids Away From It.
		i mean you should already have a room but this uh...
		clearly goes further into it where we're going so please We were giving you this warning for good reason.
		This is serious stuff.
		I'm Art Bell.
		My guest is Major Ed Dames, who was in the military remote viewing program, now in the private sector, and doing a lot of work that he calls fun and I call fascinating.
		Maybe I should have remote view my back.
		During every commercial break, I've been going in, and my wife tries to massage me straight.
		Talking about my back, you ninnies.
		My back, as you know, it has me at a sort of an angle here.
		There's no way to win.
		We'll be right back.
		Once again, into the night with Major Ed Dames.
		I've got a message here from Kevin in Surrey, B.C. Who says, all right, please grill the hell out of him on chemtrails.
		We're getting sprayed to death up here in Vancouver.
		Today was unbelievable every day, and it's getting thicker every day.
		And in the past, we've broached the subject of chemtrails with Major Ed Dames.
		There's one thing he has consistently, for some years now, declined to speak about in any fashion at all, saying that it would get him put in jail.
		And so when I got tonight's list of topics you'd be willing to talk about, I was somewhat surprised to see chemtrails here, Ed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's there on the list of topics.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's rock.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, uh the so-called uh chemtrails, and uh I'm getting close to putting my Dr. Doom hat on now here, so I understand.
unidentified		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The uh the so-called uh chemtrails are uh they are one of the two key components of an extremely sophisticated weapon system.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		One of two key components of a weapon system.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, very very effective, very sophisticated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ours or theirs?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Um no comment.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Uh is this I'm walking uh the edge here now, just to let you know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this um okay, well let me uh get up on there on the edge with you for a second.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Is this uh weapon system being tested or is it fully deployed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Uh it's not fully deployed.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Um can you speak to the effects or the intended effects of the weapon system when when it when it's working just perfectly?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I have to be careful here, but I guess I could say this.
		It is a weapon system, not necessarily a defensive weapon system.
		It is designed, I'm not going to tell you how it functions because I cannot, but it's designed to stop ICBMs in the boost phase.
		That is before they go ballistic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That was the whole concept of Star Wars.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but this is an extremely different, unique approach to the defense system.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Star Wars, you'll notice it's still cranking along in terms of brilliant pebbles and all those kinds of things, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And it's still out there.
		But this system works.
		Unfortunately, the ramifications in terms of the ecology are catastrophic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But that's okay.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, it's not okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, sure.
		It's just a mission, right?
		Everything for the mission.
		I mean, when I was a soldier, I came in at 17, so I grew up in the military.
		You know, screw the civilians.
		Screw the whales.
		What the heck are we talking about?
		Everything was about the mission, because that's the environment that I grew up in.
		That was my formative years.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're right about one thing.
		Everything is a mission.
		I, too, went in at 17, and that's one of the first things you learn is you're part of a team, and you're on missions, and you just have goals and things you achieve, and that's how it works.
		So, you know, but still, one, you know, to me, it brings to mind, we have the ionosphere, which reflects some radio signals at some frequencies.
		And one, in his imagination, when you say what you just said, with it being one part of a two-part system, imagines a ground-based piece of sophisticated something or another that's going into the high altitudes and reacting with this stuff that's being laid down by these planes for some awful reason.
		But even let's just skip over all that to get tossed in jail and get to what it's going to do to the environment.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It changes the albedo of the Earth.
		If you notice, there are actually metals in the atmosphere.
		It's not just organic chemicals and inorganic chemicals.
		There's metal going up in the atmosphere.
		So the albedo of the Earth is changing.
		Remember, the sun, it's not just the albedo, the reflectivity of the earth itself.
		It means the sun is being, there are spectra now being reflected back out into space, which is going to change the weather.
		Remember when you and I were kids, the sun was yellow?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's white now, isn't it?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But no, you know, scientists would say, well, maybe that's an illusion.
		I don't think so.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They do say that, but they're full of it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's clearly whiter in the spectrum than it was.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is.
		Anyway, what is going to affect just changing the reflectivity, the albedo of the Earth's atmosphere, is going to change drastic weather.
		The chemistry of the atmosphere is changing.
		Drastic weather changes.
		And it will result in a metastasis of the ozone layer, which took 2.5 billion years to form.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The ozone layer just split in half.
		There was this story last week.
		It's split in half.
		And it's puzzling everybody.
		It's really weird.
		It's split into two bubbles.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, what scientists don't know at NOAA and other national agencies, other countries, they're watching these holes in the Arctic and the Antarctic.
		They're just watching the holes and the ozone holes.
		But what they don't know is, and we do as professional remote viewers, there is a metastasis like Swiss cheese eating away at the ozone layer globally, other than just in the North or South Poles.
		The layer is thinning everywhere.
		And part of the reason for that is this atmospheric modification which is going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're suggesting that this is all being done in the cause of a nice new weapon?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A very interesting one.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much further could you go without getting thrown in jail over what you say?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That's about it, I think.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I had a feeling it might be.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		With trained remote viewers, the people that are trained out there, that are professionals, vocational, if they, all of them, independent of each other, were to look at specific things, let's say, hypothetically, China's most secret weapons program current time.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay?
		Whatever that is, there can only be one because we used it that we used most, right?
		I could say, if we found, let's say, life on Europa, one of the moons of Jupiter.
		Let's say there was life there.
		If we looked for the largest living creature, all remote fears would describe the same one, which actually we're doing.
		It's a cute thing.
		We'll sketch that for you.
		A life form on Europa.
		And there's many life forms in that sea there, but there can only be one that's largest.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Europa is ice.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Europa, we now believe, has volcanism, or you have volcanism and you have water, you have the building blocks for life because we find them down at the bottom of our oceans in volcanic vents.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, we can sketch things like that.
		Maybe we'll send those to Keith in a couple of weeks and show you life forms on Europa.
		But remote viewers will all are trained to be on target.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I would love to see a life form on Europa.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's very, very, very, very interesting, very strange.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And you're saying that all remote viewers, or that's a pretty sweeping statement.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		All the professionals.
		There's a lot of, you know, that I created, Jim, Christmas, I created a circus of remote viewers ten years ago when I started teaching.
		Some of my students, after a week of training, set up their own institutes.
		I've got others who have just been trained at intermediate skills, looking for missing persons, and that requires advanced skills.
		And they've never been trained to the advanced level.
		So they don't have the analytical capability to do that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And do you understand that there are and one source of the reason that a lot of people get angry at you, perhaps not on the air, but I get angry little blasts and emails about you.
		And I think one of the reasons is because there are a lot of people who are fearful.
		They have fear of knowing the future, particularly if it's not one that seems particularly rosy.
		And when they hear about it, their reaction is converted immediately into anger when they hear these things.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wait till I get to the next topic.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		Because they don't want to hear it yet.
		It's something they don't want to hear.
		And so that's the way they react to it.
		You know, some people at tragedy will laugh.
		Some people will cry, but there are some who will laugh.
		And reaction to the kind of things you're talking about tonight produces just a genre of reaction.
		I mean, people convert to anger, and it's an amazing thing to watch.
		And when I get the emails, and I know where we're going now is going to certainly, if the last topic didn't, this one will elicit that.
		And the topic, well, let's see.
		Let me read what you wrote here.
		You said, prepare for the attack of the fungi.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Fungi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Fungi, sorry.
		And you thought you knew what a horrible death meant.
		Cover your children's ears, remove the faint of heart from the room, and prepare for nightmares.
		Fungi.
		Fungi, actually.
		Fungus.
		How about that?
		Fungus.
		Fungus.
		It's a way of saying fungus, right?
		Which you talked about years ago.
		A fungus, if I recall correctly.
		Are we now talking about the same fungus?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Basically, yes, although we've got, you know, this mold.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You've had cases of mold in your own trailer, I think, haven't you?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, we've had it in our town.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay, in our town.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I mean, now I think Erin Brockovich vacated her house and is suing the builder for mold in her home.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It requires decontamination teams to come in and spend enormous amounts of money and time and trying to get rid of this weird black.
		You know, there's something that I really don't understand about the whole damn mold thing in the Southwest.
		I'm talking about the great American Southwest here where I live.
		It's dry as hell, Ed.
		This is not mold country.
		You know, typically our outside humidity levels, like in the summer, they're single digits.
		In the winter, they barely make it to the double digits.
		I mean, this is dry, dry, dry.
		I'm near Death Valley, for God's sakes.
		You shouldn't expect, you wouldn't expect mold here, but here it is.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, the spores are not denatured by ultraviolet light.
		The spores travel globally, all over the globe, on the jet stream, places like that.
		They're being disseminated everywhere.
		And if you have a warming, if the temperatures are warmer, there's nominally six times as many spores of certain species of fungi in the air than usual.
		Those spores do fine in the sunlight.
		There's no problem.
		As opposed to, let's say, a lot of people, I think I've mentioned before to you, I'm not transgressed trends, I'm not getting off the subject too much here.
		I was this country's biological warfare case officer.
		So I know a lot about biological warfare.
		People are afraid of things they shouldn't be afraid.
		One of them is biological agents are 30 minutes in the sunlight, it's gone.
		The peptide bonds are broken by the ultraviolet light of the sun.
		Okay?
		But mold, spores, that's not the case.
		They're not denatured.
		They're designed to live anywhere, any temperature.
		Where they land, if it happens to be a little bit damp, that's fine with them.
		But as long as the spores are outside, it's not like other microbes.
		They're not damaged by ultraviolet.
		So tangentially, I mentioned Aaron Brockovich because Aaron Eckhart, who I just coached on this movie that I'm doing, he played Aaron Brockovich's boyfriend, Julia Roberts, character, in the movie.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I saw the movie.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That was Aaron Eckhart.
		Anyway, so I'm going to mention about what's happening with these with light and mold momentarily, but I want to preface it with one big thing.
		Okay.
		And that's I'm going to put my Dr. Doom hat on now.
		Are you ready?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		This is the Dr. Doom hour.
		Remote viewing is an over-the-horizon radar.
		Look into the future.
		We're not prophets.
		We're just looking at things to come.
		Big things.
		Big things pop out.
		Many of the very gifted, true prophets in the past, centuries past, were describing, and this was very curious to my team over the years.
		We're describing a great nation that virtually overnight collapses, disintegrates.
		And that great nation, the loss is mourned by many, many other peoples and nations of the world.
		Okay?
		Well, we had reason to believe that these prophets were seeing the United States of America.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense to me.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, it does it to us as well, too, based upon our work.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But when we applied our tools and techniques to what was causing this virtual overnight collapse, we couldn't find anything physical.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Although I would say these days, I don't know how much the world would mourn.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I would hope they would, but I mean, when you listen to the news, it doesn't seem like it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, this is a perspective of really gifted prophets, Jesuit prophets and others, who were dead on.
		We know that because their prophecies were 300 or 400 years old, and they were right on the money.
		So we were using them as gauges.
		What were they looking at?
		Well, they're looking at the United States virtually disappearing overnight.
		And other nations do more, and it will make sense in a moment.
		We could not locate what was going on.
		And what would be so selective to take out only our country?
		That makes no sense whatsoever.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And any scenario that you could visit, whether it's a meteor hit or a terrorist act, nothing makes sense.
		And we could find nothing physical.
		Well, it isn't physical.
		It's a complete and sudden and utter collapse of the nation's economy.
		And that's what they were seeing and why the nation virtually overnight is gone.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I wonder how many mourned Rome in the years following its fall.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you are convinced, are you not, that it is the USA that you're seeing?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm convinced of that.
		And it took us a lot of work to say, what the heck?
		We can't find anything.
		And yet, what's going down?
		It's the economy.
		The economy collapses just virtually overnight.
		Bam.
		One fell swoop.
		And that's what they're seeing as taking the country down.
		Whether or not we pop back up is a different story.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ed.
		I mean, I just don't see how anybody could sit there and argue that it and its effects did not collapse the economy and have most to do with, well, of course, I guess compared to what you're talking about, this is not a real collapse.
		This is just like a little ripple in the ocean.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying the whole thing comes down like a house of cards, and it's possibly capitalized by a terrorist act, but the entire economy comes down, just like a house of cards, bam.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And that's what these profits were seeing, and why the world is mourning is that you would mourn, too, if a lot of your investments were tied to the U.S. dollar.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so they're not so much mourning for us as they are their investments.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They're money.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think that that's what's brought.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm guessing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What about this beacon of freedom for the world, this shining star of democracy that we're said to be?
		Why aren't they out there mourning for that?
		They're worried about their money in our banks.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's driven by fear and desire, fear and desire.
		We bounce back and forth.
		It's some big drivers.
		Big drivers.
		I'll get back to the fungi in a minute.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I understand.
		So there's an event that's coming along that is going to utterly collapse the economy.
		Not in the way we've just seen it in its mini collapse lately, but I mean totally down, as you put it, like a house of cards, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, it may collapse under its own weight.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying we don't know if something catalyzes it, but it may collapse under its own weight.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It may.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		One or the other.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		But what all these very gifted prophets of old were seeing was this great nation coming down this way.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right, hold it right where you are.
		We'll be right back from the high desert.
		I'm Mark Bell, and this is Coast to Coast AF.
unidentified		I've been drifting overseas hot breeze.
		Tryna get myself ashore for so long For so long Listening to the strangest stories Wondering where it all went wrong For so long For so long
		But hold on, hold on, hold on Thank you.
		Everybody's wrong.
		Young people speak in their minds are getting so much resistance from behind.
		And we stopped.
		Hey, what's that sound?
		Everybody look what's going down What a field day for the heat.
		A thousand people in the street.
		Singing songs and caring signs.
		Mostly safe hurry for our side.
		It's time we stop.
		Hey, what's that time?
		Everybody look what's going down Now There are lawyers tracks be call art bell in the kingdom of Nye from west of the Rockies at 1-800-618-8255.
		East of the Rockies, 1-800-825-5033.
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		This is Coast to Coast AM with Art Bell from the Kingdom of Not.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Was it who once said that even paranoids are occasionally murdered?
		I would say Ed's words, quoting here, prepare for the attack of the fungi.
		And you thought you knew what a horrible death meant.
		Cover your children's ears, remove the faint of heart from the room.
		Now, those are pretty strong words, Ed.
		Pretty strong words.
		So I just repeated them.
		So I guess the faint of heart have gone.
		The children's ears have been removed.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Art, I have to interrupt you.
		I've got to be able to have attenuated signal all of a sudden.
		Very, very attenuated.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You don't hear me that well, suddenly?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I have a very, very weak signal.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let me see what I can do.
		Let's try this.
		We've got this wonderful thing going on right now, Ed, with the phone company.
		Let's try this.
unidentified		Oh, here we go.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Hello, 1234, 1234.
		How's that, Ed?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		That works.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, I did a little boost here.
		Okay.
		So You're hearing me okay now?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I am.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		I read your words.
		I don't know whether you heard them.
		The warning of the horrible death, the children's ears, the faint of heart, leaving the room, that sort of thing.
		So let's do it, the fungi.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Can I talk about something nice before we do that?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Because it's really gruesome.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you may.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I want to talk about my workshops.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay, sure, of course.
		Plug away.
		Plug away at it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		All right, yeah, I have some workshops.
		I'm going to hit the road, and I want to look people dead in the eye and not tell them this, but teach them how to do this.
		I want to stand right next to them and make sure they learn this the right way.
		Okay, well, we still have the chance.
		I've only programmed workshops for the first quarter of 2003 because I'm not sure if there's any more quarters left after that.
		And in January, I'm going to be teaching with my partner in Portland and San Diego.
		In February, San Francisco, Albuquerque, Seattle.
		And in March, Phoenix, Denver, and Dallas, Fort Worth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How are people going to know where you're going to be?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		They can check on my website, remoteviewing2002.com, or they can call a toll-free number and get the schedule there.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		What's the toll-free number?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Toll-free number is 1-800-441-8547.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		1-800-441-8547, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And if they can't attend the workshops, then we have inexpensive videos, and then there's always the mind-dazzle kit, which is very effective.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But if you're actually coming to these cities, there are going to be a lot of people that are going to want to come to see you, I know.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Rattle off cities again.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay, in January, actually my last on-campus El Segundo Research Park in California, last on-campus workshop is coming up on October 19th to 20th.
		There's still a few seats there.
		Otherwise, we go on the road for off-campus workshops, and that will be January in Portland and San Diego.
		In February of 2003, San Francisco, Albuquerque, and Seattle.
		And in March, Phoenix, Denver, and Dallas-Port Worth.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		That's really the road.
		All right.
		So for people who want to know the future for themselves, and you know, we were discussing this earlier.
		Not everybody wants to know, Ed.
		I'm probably one of those people.
		I don't think I want to know.
		I'm sort of fascinated in a train wreck kind of way with what you have to say, but I'm not so sure that I'd want to know with absolute certainty myself.
		So that puts me back a little bit with the people who say, you know, this guy could be totally whacked out and wrong.
		And so in a way, that lets me stick my head in the sand and at least be comfortable and live one day at a time.
		Whereas if you know probably what you're about to hear and you know it for certain, it's going to change your life in ways that are irretrievable, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Depends on your belief system, obviously.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But if you train and you learn it for yourself in an absolute knowing manner.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And then knowledge has a responsibility.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Now the monkey's on your own back.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
unidentified		All right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, all right.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So let's get to it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You know, lots of scenarios in movies and in science fiction and even in nonfiction paints an idea of if we had a common enemy, all of us, all nations had a common enemy, it would unite us.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Ronald Reagan said that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A lot of times, wistfully almost.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, we're going to have some enemies.
		And they may not necessarily unite us, but they're coming.
		They're here now.
		Very insidious, very powerful, and we probably will not be able to defeat them.
		But they're here.
		They're microbes.
		Microbes are our enemy.
		And you think you've seen some problems now with microbes.
		Just wait what's coming.
		What is?
		The attack of the fungi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Meaning.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, microbes in general.
		Look at viruses right now.
		We all see the effects of the human immunodeficiency virus.
		Bye-bye, Africa.
		Africans will be obsolete soon.
		So we can see how powerful viruses are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Africa is dying, yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Rickettsia, Rickettsial disorders.
		Most people don't know what Rickettsia are.
		I don't.
		Yeah.
		They're another microorganism that can cause some problems in man.
		But right now, they're kind of in the reserves in terms of the microbes doing battle.
		So they're out there.
		Not much of a problem right now.
		Bacterial infections.
		I think we've used the last of our antibiotic counters.
		We just lost a congresswoman here, Patsy Mink, in Hawaii.
		She had smallpox.
		And when she went into the hospital, she contracted pneumonia.
		Pneumonia was living in the hospital.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So that's what killed her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		She had smallpox.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		She had chickenpox.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Chickenpox.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Smallpox is eradicated in the world, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's eradicated except in biological warfare laboratories where it's just a great weapon.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But chickenpox then turned to pneumonia?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, it didn't turn into it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It just suppressed her immune system and allowed the pneumonia that was living in the hospital to kill her.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, I believe that's how many AIDS patients die.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Their immune systems are gone, and whatever opportunistic thing comes along kills them dead.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Right, but what I'm saying is that pneumonia is actually resonant in many hospitals, you know, and as yet another bacterial agent.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Antibiotics are failing across the board.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm pretty aware of that.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they do keep coming up with an occasional new super this or that, but the bugs are coming much faster than the new antibiotics.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, the bugs are like the Borg in the Star Trek series.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You can kill them pretty quickly, but as a group, as a group mentality, as a collective in terms of a swarm theory or neural network, they quickly assess the capability of the attack mechanism.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And adjust.
unidentified		Yeah, adjust it quite readily, quite happily.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		They certainly do.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So then what describe the magnitude of what you see occurring.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay, just one of the, I want to just continue this.
		Preons, pieces of proteins, the mad cow disease, that is a time bomb ticking away in a lot of people.
		There's a latency.
		You know how, for instance, a virus, a viral infection or a bacterial infection, bacterial disease, that has a latency period before your body begins to react, before you feel sick.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In AIDS, I think it's up to a dozen, 13 years at the outside, yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yes, at the outside.
		Usually it's much shorter than that, two to four.
		But prions, the mad cow disease can be a long time.
		And you see nothing.
		You don't know that you have it, right?
		Bovine, spongiform, encephalopathy, and its equivalents.
		You don't know that you have that.
		Your brain has turned into Swiss cheese.
		It's a time bomb ticking away.
		And a lot of people who are infected, lots of people have eaten infected meat, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Already in this country?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		In many countries.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But we thought it was Britain, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Generally?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The British ate the most of it.
		And they're going to get the lion's share of problems, as you might guess.
		But it's a ticking time bomb.
		For some reason, once the signal is sent, whatever signal that may be in terms of the species, to turn on, they're going to wake up and start chomping away at cell tissue.
		So that's there.
		People are already infected.
		But the most damaging thing to humans, and the thing that what will be the common enemy and will take us down very, very quickly, both developed countries and to a much greater and sadder degree, the lesser developed countries are fungi, blight.
		Even candida, little things like that, you know, can be very harmful.
		But what I am talking about are not just this black mold that makes you sick.
		It can hurt your respiratory system.
		I'm talking about a particular species of light.
		Ergot, the one that we make LSD out of.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Claviceps, that particular genus of mold, that one is going to kill us in the following way.
		Claviceps paporia, particularly, and in Latin, that's the royal fungus, interestingly.
		It is mutating and spreading all over.
		I've mentioned this before, but it's really growing now because the temperatures are warmer and wetter.
		What it attacks is all grasses are.
		Sorghum, wheat, rye, corn, maize, millet, oats, everything, cattle food.
		Cattle are not going to be able to eat this.
		In the past, if you go back into the literature and you look at what happens to cattle when they eat infected grass, oats or corn, if there's too much of this black mold on what they've eaten, they develop ergotism.
		They develop a very interesting thing called gangrenous ergotism.
		Ergot, right, is the mold.
		Ergotism, the effects of ergotism can be psychedelic or hallucinations if you eat just mildly infected crop, like you would with LSD.
		You could vomit.
		But you can also get gangrenous ergotism.
		And what this is, is gangrene that's really fast acting.
		And in cattle, what it causes is the appendages of the cow to fall off at the joints, their tail, their ears.
		And in humans, it causes your arms and legs to fall off at the joints, to literally fall off.
		They turn black and they come disjointed.
		They fall right off.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		There's a way to go.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, but when you're really hungry, if you're really hungry now, there's no cows left, right?
		Because what's happened is the blight has destroyed all the grasses for the cows.
		And so there's nothing for cows to eat, and there's no meat to eat either.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Just give me one second, Ed.
		Let me stop you and go back.
		This fungus that we're talking about right now, you said that there was a fungus that was going to enter our atmosphere.
		You said it would come in down in all likelihood over the African continent, if memory serves, and that this would attack all green things, essentially.
		And that's awfully close to what you're talking about right now.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Grasses.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Grasses, yeah, green things, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Growing things.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I wasn't sure at the time which a particular species.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So it is the same?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's the same.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		And so, oh my God.
		So you're saying that this will start eating in a gangrene-type fast-acting way, and limbs will fall off.
		Turn black, rot, and fall off.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It infects this mold, the spores of which will be carried globally, and right now are beginning to infect crops even in Texas and Mexico.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You cannot eat the infected crop, which its blight, has blackness on it.
		You must destroy the crop.
		Or if you eat it, and starving people will eat anything, if you eat this crop, you may develop gangrenous ergotism, which will result in a very rapid gangrene of your limbs, your arms and your legs.
		Which will then proceed to fall off at the joints.
		This happ if you look in the the literature, cows, cattle that are fed infected crops, their tails fall right off their body, their ears fall off their body, you know, and this kind of thing.
		People.
		This happened to people, too.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And so you see, have seen, I should say, this occurring en masse?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Not just light, but bacterial infections predominate.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Lots of bacterial, lots of viral infections, and lots of deaths from microbial infections, whether it's fungi.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But you have seen a future where limbs are falling off people en masse.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Are you bet?
		Absolutely.
		Yeah, we're being culled.
		We're being culled.
		Our population is being culled globally.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, is it reasonable to ask you if man's hand is involved in the manipulation of the little bugs that will get this job done?
		Or is it something beyond the guys who work in the labs and in the spacesuits?
		Is it that group or is it another?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Can I give you a little lesson on biological warfare as someone who's been on the inside?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You bet you can.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I've been there.
		I know all the principals in this country.
		I know all the folks who are in the active, the offensive program in the past and the defensive program.
		Because that was my job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It was one of my jobs.
		When you make an agent and you use it, it's one pass, haul, you know what.
		It only is there for a while.
		It does its job and it's gone.
		I'll tell you what, because it's genetically engineered and it's not viable for too long, whether you want to make it viable or not, it's very difficult to do.
		If I take a dog species, let's say a miniature poodle, and I decide in order to maintain the breed, I have to make sure it doesn't mate with anything else, right?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Okay, it's the same thing with a genetically engineered organism.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		This poodle that you make in the laboratory, once you release it, it can go through a population like stuff through a goose, but it doesn't last long in nature because it isn't viable.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like Ebola burns itself out?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, Ebola is a natural thing.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but Ebola is very similar in nature to what you're talking about in the sense that it is so deadly, it can't spread because it just literally burns itself out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It kills its victim so quickly that there's not this time, this time trigger.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, but it has a brain.
		It does have a brain.
		The brain knows that, you know, eat up your host and then go back to sleep.
		Whereas a genetically engineered agent, a biological warfare agent, an offensive agent, doesn't have anything like that built into it.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's not that smart.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It isn't that smart.
		No, no.
		And even if you take Ebola and you modify it, or you take smallpox and you modify it, it will still have the traits of the original species, but it will not be as viable as the original species.
		It'll do its job.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's really interesting.
		so you're saying we we do not uh...
		modify as efficiently as nature uh...
		is able to uh...
		do what would be the right word evolve uh...
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		evolve To meet circumstances.
		To take advantage of circumstances.
		That's correct.
		That's correct.
		I'm suggesting one other thing to you as well, that this idea of Gaia, that the Earth as a conscious entity, is also operating here too.
		Trying to cleanse itself.
		You know, we are contributing and eventuating an ecocide.
		We're killing the fish in the sea and poisoning ourselves.
		We're beginning to live in our own waste products.
		Turn the oceans into cesspools.
		If the Earth is conscious, there may be a time delay, but if it has a consciousness, it will react.
		It is reacting, is what I'm saying.
		I'm submitting to you that this is the reaction of the Earth to what's going on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty frightening stuff.
		The one thing remote viewing always has a very hard time with is setting timelines.
		But obviously, for something this catastrophic, people want to know when they're going to begin to see it.
		Do you have any idea?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think that the best thing to watch in terms of microbial victory...
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, the signs of the impending invasion of the little ones.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Somehow I've always thought that's how it would be, that the little things would get us.
unidentified		It don't come easy.
		You know it don't come easy.
		It don't come easy.
		You know it don't come easy.
		But you may choose if you want to see the blues.
		And you know it don't come easy.
		You don't have to shout or think aloud.
		You can't even wait.
		The explanation should just tell you that you gained in the air of the count.
		She doesn't give you time for questions.
		As she locks up your arm in hers.
		And you follow to your sense of which direction completely disappears.
		By the blue top walls near the market.
		The stars of the hint that she leads you to.
		These days she says I feel my life just like a river running through.
		The air of the count.
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art bell ▲ ● ▼		It is indeed.
		We may not get too many calls tonight.
		The reason for that is that the phone company, in their diligent effort to find out what it is going on out here, switched three of our telephone lines to a different circuit so that we could observe a difference.
		And the difference I observe is that the three they moved now have a courageous phone.
		So the battle of the phone company and quality phone lines continues on this program.
		We'll try and get it straightened away.
unidentified		But we know very well now that a lot of them have pump.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'm Art Bell, back with Ed Dames and the rough stuff in a moment.
		Once again, Major Ed Dames, this horrible, horrible thing that we're discussing, the fungi and the effects of the fungi, we were up to timeline.
		I know timelines are really tough, but Ed, people want to have a sense, some sense, of what we're talking about here.
		Are we talking about real soon?
		Are we talking about a matter of years?
		Are we talking about our children's lifetime, our lifetime?
		Are we talking about next year?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We're talking about real soon.
		And the key milestone, the red flag for anyone who is really not paying attention, keep one thing in mind, just one red flag.
		When crops begin to be infected with blight, that's the beginning of the end.
		It's the beginning of the end of the cattle industry and the dairy industry, because cows will no longer have anything to eat.
		And it's the beginning of the end of many of man's food crops will be gone, too.
		Most of what we eat is grasses.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's basically true, of course.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And that will give, and you won't see so many terrorist attacks after that because the terrorists and other people will have something to worry about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A common enemy of some sort.
		Well, there's a big old common enemy.
		It's just one that you can't see.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Starvation, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		We're not used to enemies that we can't see.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Starvation and disease is what I'm talking about.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		And the moment you start seeing blight, specifically any of the species or any of the Claviceps paporea or itself in a mutated form.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Believe me, I'll remember all of these words, and when I hear them, I will share them.
		All right, the magnitude of what is going to happen, is that something you can remote view?
		In other words, global.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Global scale.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Global.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		All grasses.
		And it will spread fast.
		One of the reasons it will spread fast is because of what we're doing with the atmosphere.
		Unwitting, in some cases, well, I wouldn't call it complete unwitting.
		And in another case, as somebody's secret project on a global scale, the arrogance of using the Earth's atmosphere as part of a weapon system, well, that will contribute to our downfall collectively.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You say on a global scale.
		Do you have any idea?
		I mean, we are now, what, six billion and more on the planet.
		How many of us?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I think I would have to agree with the biblical prophets.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A third of the people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		A third.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a third.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yes, the poisoned seas.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a third of the fishes in the sea.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		A third of the plants on land.
		A third of the people.
		That's culling the population.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How much work have you done in correlating what you see as a remote viewer with biblical prophecy?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How does it track?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the true biblical prophets and some of the Latter-day Prophets in the 14th, 15th, 16th century who are really dead on.
		The two things that are consistent with really gifted psychics are starvation, pestilence.
		Pestilence, including this.
		This is what they mean by pestilence.
		Not just grasshoppers and rats, but food crops being blighted.
		That plus this idea of the earth, the sun rising twice in one day and the earth standing still, that kind of thing.
		Both those ideas, where, in fact, biblical prophets talk about a point where everybody on earth falls down and can't stand up.
		Those two events, this confluence of events, are pretty much consistent with all the best prophets looking ahead at these two huge things in the future.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Now, I take it I guess I don't really even have to imagine Ed, but you spoke of the economic collapse of this great nation, the House of Cards.
		Clearly, this could be or would be a trigger for that.
		Is that correct?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
		No, I don't think that.
		This is a minor thing.
		This collapse of this House is only a couple of the Latter-day Prophets seeing something.
		It doesn't affect people globally.
		It affects one nation, and then other nations suffer the consequences of the world.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		See, I'm looking at it the other way around.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		In other words, if something like this occurred, certainly it would be economic ruin.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		For the world.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		This is virtually, literally, overnight.
		Literally.
		24 hours.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		24 hours.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		It has nothing to do with microbial attack.
		We would have seen it.
		We would have actually seen all of these because it's a physical thing.
		And what, as remote viewers, we were not detecting was a physical counterpart to what these prophets were seeing.
		And in fact, it wasn't physical.
		It's economic, which is not physical and tangible.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But one can't even imagine something economic that would be virtually that fast.
		I think you can.
		No, I can't.
		Well, maybe I can.
		In other words, if one of our nuclear reactors went up in smoke and millions, no, even if just thousands or hundreds of thousands, worse yet, would be poisoned with radioactivity, I can imagine that literally overnight destroying the economy.
		Something of that magnitude, I guess I could imagine.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Something happens to cause economic collapse.
		It could be catalyzed by a minor event, but what we're seeing is not a massive war or a biological warfare attack that isolates only the United States and not Canada.
		For all intents and purposes, it appears to be strictly economic.
		And then virtually in the blink of an eye, the economy collapses.
		Bad decision on the leader's part.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I've watched this slow collapse of this terrible bear market, but it's just hard to imagine, sort of, what could precipitate that?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, suppose the Feds came out and said they can no longer pay the interest or not to mention the principal back on, let's say, U.S. bonds, Treasury bonds.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		That would do it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the kind of thing I'm talking about, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, they would know that would do it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can only hide so long.
		Enron found that out.
		You can only hide so long.
		Sooner or later, the truth is going to come out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Are there a lot more Enrons out there?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you bet.
		Absolutely.
		That's why I'm saying, you know, this is a house of cards.
		And what the prophets are seeing is the whole house coming down.
		And it's not physically.
		It's economically.
		That's what brings the nation down.
		That's how we won the Cold War, was economics.
		It wasn't because the Soviets weren't smarter than us or didn't have better technology.
		The American people have no idea how superior some of the erstwhile Soviet defense systems were.
		Incredibly good, brilliant thinkers.
		But they just ran out of money, and so we won by default.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I lost thousands of dollars with Enron.
		And I'm certainly not alone.
		I mean, a lot of big, legit investment groups had their people in Enron because it looked so damn good.
		It was up in the mainstream of what was considered to be safe investment.
		Now, it shook the world when Enron collapsed.
		It shook the world.
		And you're saying it's only the beginning?
		I mean, could that be what brings down the House of Cards?
		I mean, could that be it?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You see the event.
		You don't see specifically what keys the event.
		You see the event occurring.
unidentified		Yes.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And again, we're looking at what these prophets were looking at.
		We can take the prophets' visions, whether it's a Nostradamus or somebody, anywhere, the prophet, you know, Jonah, we can look at what they're looking at in the future and put it into contemporary terms accurately, very accurately.
		Actually, that's fun to do.
		In fact, pick one for your next show.
		Pick a prophecy that you think that you're really curious about.
		And we can tell you whether it's just BS or whether the prophet was really seeing something and we'll put it in the current Vanacat.
		For instance, the idea of the false prophet.
		I told you, the idea of the false prophet is what the prophets are.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I'll pick one for you.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		And I need a timeline on this, okay?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		If I can.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		This should be an interesting one for people.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		How about the return of Christ?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will look at it.
		I have no idea.
		No, Maria.
		I've never looked at something like that, at the idea of that.
		And do you want us to give it a crack?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is a clear concept, right?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's a concept that's been in many people's minds.
		If it has legitimacy and physicality and has something that we can get our teeth into, we'll give it a crack.
		The sky's the limit here.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		well i would think i would think something like this would be more than a minor bubble in the uh...
		in the time wave of the uh...
		that the future wherever it would be this would be a big old uh...
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's a topic.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		We go in to see if the question has any legitimacy first.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		It's like going to the Yahoo search engine, putting God, return, date.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		God, return, date.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It's things like that.
		Exactly so.
		And, you know, junk in, junk out.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		But I bet Yahoo, come to think of it, will probably have something on that.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It'll have discussion, but it's not going to give you a date.
unidentified		So that's something you could go after?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		I would love to see what's out there in the matrix.
		If we mine the matrix for knowledge, which is the mother load of all knowledge, that's what I teach people to do.
		Let's see what pops out.
		Now, if I did that or any other train remote viewer would do it, we would get the same thing on.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		So it isn't just.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I just did what I was talking about.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I went to Yahoo and put in God return date.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let's see.
		I've got returns one of 20 of 1,040,000 returns on God return date.
		Try it yourself, folks.
		1,040,000 returns.
		Would I like to try the next 20 pages?
unidentified		Next 20 returns.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Ed.
		So is it, for you as a team, as complicated as searching through the next 1,040,000 returns?
		Yahoo is willing to rattle off for me on this subject.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No.
		What we do is direct knowledge.
		For instance, if I were to look at a cure for rheumatoid arthritis, we come up with the same thing every time.
		Devil's Claw, the extract of a seed pod from Devil's Claw.
		Now, that's just one, if you look at the homeopathic literature, that's just one possible remedy out of many thousands that people, depending upon their backgrounds and training, come up with.
		But in terms of the matrix, where we go for our information, the matrix is the place from which all form arises.
		That's a good definition.
		We get the same thing each time.
		Devil's claw seed pod.
		And the extract's cheap.
		It's like $14 or something else like that.
		And it's very effective for rheumatoid arthritis.
		Let's say ovarian tumors, fennel, and dandelion mixture.
		Very effective because it mediates a woman's estrogen levels, which really helps non-surgically shrink the tumor.
		We do a lot of health stuff in the program.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I know you do.
		All right, I've got another fun project.
		Fun project, okay?
		If you don't mind.
		I would like you to take a look at the concept of Planet X. I've had a number of guests on my program.
		There is lore.
		There are people who believe firmly that there is a planet out beyond the planets we see presently that every number of years, 3,600 years or whatever, will take a swing by our vicinity.
		Sometimes closer, sometimes farther away from Earth.
		But when she comes around the bend, Ed, it does like a big old reset here on the planet.
		And there's even been some intriguing mainstream news stories about an object spotted out there.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		2001 KX76.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Huh?
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		2001 KX76 by International Astronomical Union nomenclature.
		That particular object, yeah.
		An extraplanetary body.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you knew more about it than I did.
		All right, so what about that?
		It's real.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It still is real.
		It's coming around again.
		And this time, when it comes around, it's going to get us coming and going.
		And that will cause, number one, the planet to wobble and tilt, which will do the same thing it did to that little city off the coast of Cuba that National Geographic is investigating now, 2,200 feet under.
		And a few months later, as we pass through this very interrupted electromagnetic tail that Nibura lives behind, a minor solar flare from the sun will heat parts of the planet up pretty much.
		A lot of thirsty people.
		So I call it shake and bake.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was going to say, what the hell, why not?
art bell ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we're already flopping around on the ground without our arms, legs, or money.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		This is going to happen before that art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Niburo will come before we get hit by disease.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		The diseases will have a field day.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		So you don't have to do your homework on Nibru.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		You've already done it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		So this is all true.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Nibru and disease, yeah.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		The whole Planet X thing, it.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It is true.
		The Sumerians were describing it right.
		Sometimes it comes in and it just passes through the solar system, but sometimes it comes close.
		And the last time it came close, it sank.
		It didn't sink.
		It tilted the Earth so that the city that was above ground is now 2,200 feet below water off the eastern coast of Cuba.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a half mile.
		Well, your Dr. Doom hat has served you well this night.
		We're about out of program, Ed.
		If you want it one more time, if you want to give a plug for anything, do it fairly quickly.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		All right.
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		Or you can go to remoteviewing2002.com directly or go through Keith Rowland's website at theartbell.com.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Always got the links there, of course.
		Remember, folks, if you don't see tonight's guests, then you go to recent guests or older guests or whatever, and the links remain there for you to follow.
		Okay, Ed.
		From one future limbless body to another, you have a great night.
		Go to work on what you can, and we'll do another program soon.
		But this one scared the hell out of me.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		Just eat carrots and beets, Art.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		You'll be fine.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Carrots and beets.
unidentified		Yeah.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		It was on that grass.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Let me think about this.
		Carrots and beets over here.
		Death over here.
		Carrots and beets.
		Death.
		Carrots and beets.
		Death.
		Well, we're out of time.
		Ed, I gotta go.
ed dames ▲ ● ▼		All right, Art.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.
art bell ▲ ● ▼		Good night.

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